FTP client GUI that handles AUTH-TLS

2005-03-16 Thread David Liontooth
I had been looking for a while for an FTP GUI that handles AUTH-TLS 
without much luck -- KBear doesn't (and nobody is working on it), and 
while GFTP supposedly does, the Debian version doesn't and I wasn't able 
to build it.

Kasablanca (http://kasablanca.berlios.de/download.html) builds without 
problems -- I do this routine:

  1. ./configure
  2. dh_make -s
  3. fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage
Builds beautifully on amd64 and works on an FTP site requiring AUTH-TLS 
if you set it to passive mode and level 3 encryption.  Uploads and 
downloads work. There is still a debilitating problem: newly uploaded 
files aren't displayed in the file list. It seems to happen when the 
date shows an hour rather than a year.  Hopefully a minor thing that can 
be fixed. Aside from that, the program is clean and good-looking. The 
file management features aren't quite there yet, but it has a good solid 
feel. pftp of course handles AUTH-TLS with no problems.

Dave
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complete new install

2005-03-16 Thread Uwe
Hi there,

I'm new to this list and first of all want to thank everybody involved in the 
development of the AMD64 port. I upgraded my personal server from a double 
PII to a small Athlon64 system. First of all I'd like to suggest adding a new 
mainboard to the compatibility list. Attached you can find the necessary 
info. I tested everything but the sound an the SATA part with success.

After installation out of the box via netinst-image I have some questions:

1) data-transfer from disk to disk seems to be very slo and cpu conduming. 
copying huge files from USB-disk to IDE-disk ist very very slow with a load 
of nearly 90%. It seems to be independent from the filesystemtype - it's the 
same for FAT32 and NTFS sources.

2) I have trouble getting that cool'n'quiet thing running. As the 
powernow-daemon relies on the /sys-filesystem i suggest defaulting it in the 
kernel-images. I installed the sysfsutils package but can't get 
the /sys-filesystem working. Especially the cpu-freq part is not available. 
the sysfsutils-daemon fires up, but powernow doesn't.

ANY SUGGESTIONS?

Greetings
Uwe

PS: Whenever you try to use a harddrive previously used in a Sun with a 
sundisklabel ERASE it completely. The netinst shows a very strange behaviour 
until you entirely scrubb your harddisk. I used the IBM Drive Fitness Test 
and did a complete erase...
-- 
---
ASUS K8S-MX, 2800+ (754), 512MB, gnuLinux v2.6.x
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda1   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/hdc1   /datatwoext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda2   noneswapsw  0   0
#/dev/hdb/media/cdrom0   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0
#/dev/pktcdvd/0 /mnt/dvdram udf noauto,noatime,rw,users 0 0
/dev/hdb /mnt/dvdram udf noauto,noatime,rw,users 0 0
Bootdata ok (command line is root=/dev/hda1 ro )
Linux version 2.6.10-16032hz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc-Version 3.3.5 (Debian 
1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Thu Mar 17 17:10:01 CET 2005
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000e - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 1dfd (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 1dfd - 1dfdf000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 1dfdf000 - 1e00 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: ff78 - 0001 (reserved)
No mptable found.
On node 0 totalpages: 122832
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
  Normal zone: 118736 pages, LIFO batch:16
  HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
ACPI: RSDP (v002 ACPIAM) @ 0x000fb120
ACPI: XSDT (v001 A M I  OEMXSDT  0x11000411 MSFT 0x0097) @ 
0x1dfd0100
ACPI: FADT (v003 A M I  OEMFACP  0x11000411 MSFT 0x0097) @ 
0x1dfd0290
ACPI: MADT (v001 A M I  OEMAPIC  0x11000411 MSFT 0x0097) @ 
0x1dfd0390
ACPI: OEMB (v001 A M I  AMI_OEM  0x11000411 MSFT 0x0097) @ 
0x1dfdf040
ACPI: DSDT (v001  AH005 AH005001 0x0001 INTL 0x02002026) @ 
0x
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
Processor #0 15:4 APIC version 16
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x01] address[0xfec0] gsi_base[0])
IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 1, version 20, address 0xfec0, GSI 0-23
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl)
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 low level)
ACPI: IRQ0 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ2 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ9 used by override.
Setting APIC routing to flat
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
Checking aperture...
CPU 0: aperture @ e000 size 32 MB
Aperture from northbridge cpu 0 too small (32 MB)
AGP bridge at 00:00:00
Aperture from AGP @ e000 size 32 MB (APSIZE f38)
Aperture from AGP bridge too small (32 MB)
Your BIOS doesn't leave a aperture memory hole
Please enable the IOMMU option in the BIOS setup
This costs you 64 MB of RAM
Mapping aperture over 65536 KB of RAM @ 400
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro  console=tty0
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 65536 bytes)
time.c: Using 1.193182 MHz PIT timer.
time.c: Detected 1804.013 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Memory: 411412k/491328k available (1670k kernel code, 79132k reserved, 964k 
data, 140k init)
Calibrating delay loop... 3571.71 BogoMIPS (lpj=1785856)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
Capability LSM initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 256 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 512K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ stepping 0a
U

Re: VLC and Mplayer issues

2005-03-16 Thread Daniel van Eeden
wmv depends on windows dll's isn't it? maybe you could try win64 dll's
if you can find em. please report any suc6 back to the list

On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 21:27 +, Max Dyckhoff wrote:
> Evening all,
> 
> Is anything being done about the installation of VLC (which currently 
> depends on libflac4, which is uninstallable), or has it been lost by the 
> way side?
> 
> Also, how do I go about getting support for wmv files in Mplayer on 
> AMD64? Am I right in thinking I need a chroot and to run Mplayer as 
> 32bit? That would be a shame...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Max
> 
> 
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Re: AVM Fritz!Card PCI (v2.0) / Fritz!DSL

2005-03-16 Thread p-a-v-e-l
"Fritz!Card PCI v2.0" is a passive ISDN controller
http://www.avm.de/en/Produkte/FRITZ/FRITZ_Card_PCI/db_FRITZ_Card.pdf

"Fritz!DSL" is an ADSL+ ISDN controller
http://www.avm.de/en/Produkte/FRITZCard_DSL/FRITZ_Card_DSL/datasheet_FCardDSL_engl.pdf

Am Mittwoch, 16. März 2005 22:24 schrieb Lennart Sorensen:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:15:14PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > since a month I've unsteady searched for solution to get working my AVM
> > cards. has anybody got working one of both cards?
> >
> > For links to information or descriptions thanks in advance
>
> What does those cards do?
>
> If they are PCI ADSL cards, then as far as I know very few have support
> in Linux.
>
> I personally have only used the Sangoma S518 PCI ADSL card and a bunch
> of external ethernet connected ADSL modems.  The external just work with
> anything of course.  The internal I don't think has amd64 drivers yet
> although the main software developer did tell me he was working on
> porting the drivers to amd64.
>
> Since your card isn't one of those, I have no idea about support, except
> that I have mainly seen that unusualy PCI cards are not supported by
> anything other than the versions of windows they ship with drivers for.
> I often wonder when people get these if they will have support in
> Windows in 5 years.
>
> Len Sorensen



Re: dpkg SEGFAULT with upgrade using gcc-3.4 (or 4.0) repos

2005-03-16 Thread Michael Bienia
On 2005-03-16 13:32:48 -0500, Scott Ransom wrote:
> Hello all,

Hello,

> So I've just gotten bit by a SEGFAULT during a dpkg upgrade 
> using the 3.4 (or I guess gcc-4.0 archive).  This occurred 
> after --force'ing the /usr/lib64 issue with the libc6 upgrade.
> The messages can be found below.  Any suggestions about how to
> fix this?

I've been seeing the same problems as you after the todays update of
dpkg. I've fixed it for now with a rebuild of dpkg. If you really want
to rebuild dpkg you need the patch from bug #299699 to get dpkg compiled
with gcc-4.0.

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VLC and Mplayer issues

2005-03-16 Thread Max Dyckhoff
Evening all,
Is anything being done about the installation of VLC (which currently 
depends on libflac4, which is uninstallable), or has it been lost by the 
way side?

Also, how do I go about getting support for wmv files in Mplayer on 
AMD64? Am I right in thinking I need a chroot and to run Mplayer as 
32bit? That would be a shame...

Cheers,
Max
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Re: AVM Fritz!Card PCI (v2.0) / Fritz!DSL

2005-03-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:15:14PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> since a month I've unsteady searched for solution to get working my AVM cards.
> has anybody got working one of both cards?
> 
> For links to information or descriptions thanks in advance

What does those cards do?

If they are PCI ADSL cards, then as far as I know very few have support
in Linux.

I personally have only used the Sangoma S518 PCI ADSL card and a bunch
of external ethernet connected ADSL modems.  The external just work with
anything of course.  The internal I don't think has amd64 drivers yet
although the main software developer did tell me he was working on
porting the drivers to amd64.

Since your card isn't one of those, I have no idea about support, except
that I have mainly seen that unusualy PCI cards are not supported by
anything other than the versions of windows they ship with drivers for.
I often wonder when people get these if they will have support in
Windows in 5 years.

Len Sorensen


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AVM Fritz!Card PCI (v2.0) / Fritz!DSL

2005-03-16 Thread p-a-v-e-l
Hi All,

since a month I've unsteady searched for solution to get working my AVM cards.
has anybody got working one of both cards?

For links to information or descriptions thanks in advance

Pavel


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Re: dpkg SEGFAULT with upgrade using gcc-3.4 (or 4.0) repos

2005-03-16 Thread Javier Kohen

Hi Jonathan,

I'm crossposting to the list as you only sent your reply to me.

El miÃ, 16-03-2005 a las 14:12 -0600, Jonathan Guthrie escribiÃ:
> I'm not Scott, but since I have the same problem and since my query this
> morning didn't have any responses and Scott's did, I'll post what I
> have.

I saw both but thought that replying to one would be enough, sorry :)

> Here, it's definitely /libc6_2.3.2.ds1-20.0.0.3.gcc4_amd64.deb

Hmm... I'm using .2.gcc4 here. In fact, if I recall correctly .2.gcc4
was re-uploaded to the repository (I presume recompiled as well). I
think I'm using the earlier copy. Unfortunately it didn't survive a
recent apt-get clean, so I can't make it available for someone to test,
but somebody might still have a copy in his or her /var/cache/apt dir.

It could as well be a problem with dpkg's compilation, however, I'm
presumably using the same version as both of you and not seeing the
problem.

> Hmmm.  Looks like some sort of buffer overrun to me.

Could be, but also certain compilation options might cause GDB to not be
able to find the bottom frame. I'm sure I saw that happening to a
perfectly behaving program of mine recently.

> I have tried to recompile dpkg, but when I run "configure" it stops with
> a message:  "checking size of unsigned long... configure: error: cannot
> compute sizeof (unsigned long), 77"

Checking config.log out might be able to shine some light there.

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Re: dpkg SEGFAULT with upgrade using gcc-3.4 (or 4.0) repos

2005-03-16 Thread Javier Kohen

May I suggest you recompile dpkg? This might solve your immediate
problems and, if not, try to compile it with symbols to see where it's
breaking.

You might also want to try using a static linked or ia32 dpkg.

Greetings,

El miÃ, 16-03-2005 a las 14:15 -0500, Scott Ransom escribiÃ:

> > So I've just gotten bit by a SEGFAULT during a dpkg upgrade
> > using the 3.4 (or I guess gcc-4.0 archive).  This occurred
> > after --force'ing the /usr/lib64 issue with the libc6 upgrade.
> > The messages can be found below.  Any suggestions about how to
> > fix this?

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Re: dpkg SEGFAULT with upgrade using gcc-3.4 (or 4.0) repos

2005-03-16 Thread Scott Ransom
Javier Kohen just asked (I'm not subscribedto this list anymore, so I 
saw his post on google news) what version of libc6 I'm using.  I 
_think_ (since dpkg is not allowing me to check) that I'm using 
libc6_2.3.2.ds1-20.0.0.2.gcc4_amd64.deb, although 
libc6_2.3.2.ds1-20.0.0.3.gcc4_amd64.deb was in the process of being 
installed (I'm not sure if it was unpacked yet or not).

And as far as backtracing the dpkg SEGFAULT in gdb, I had tried that, 
but as he mentioned, since there are no debugging symbols, there is 
nothing but memory addresses.

Scott

On Wednesday 16 March 2005 01:32 pm, Scott Ransom wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> So I've just gotten bit by a SEGFAULT during a dpkg upgrade
> using the 3.4 (or I guess gcc-4.0 archive).  This occurred
> after --force'ing the /usr/lib64 issue with the libc6 upgrade.
> The messages can be found below.  Any suggestions about how to
> fix this?
>
> Thanks a bunch,
>
> Scott
>
> 
>
> Preparing to replace dpkg 1.10.25.0.0.1.gcc4 (using
> .../dpkg_1.10.27.0.0.1.gcc4_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dpkg
> ...
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault.
>
> ...
>
> uller(root):/var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg --version
> Debian GNU/Linux `dpkg' package management program version 1.10.27
> (amd64). This is free software; see the GNU General Public Licence
> version 2 or later for copying conditions.  There is NO warranty.
> See dpkg --licence for copyright and license details.
>
> ...
>
> uller(root):/var/cache/apt/archives# gdb /usr/bin/dpkg
> GNU gdb 6.3-debian
> Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and
> you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for
> details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-linux"...(no debugging
> symbols found) Using host libthread_db library
> "/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
>
> (gdb) run -i dpkg_1.10.27.0.0.1.gcc4_amd64.deb
> Starting program: /usr/bin/dpkg -i dpkg_1.10.27.0.0.1.gcc4_amd64.deb
> (no debugging symbols found)
> (no debugging symbols found)
>
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 0x002a956e39ba in strncasecmp () from /lib/libc.so.6

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Re: dpkg SEGFAULT with upgrade using gcc-3.4 (or 4.0) repos

2005-03-16 Thread Javier Kohen
Hi Scott,


El miÃ, 16-03-2005 a las 13:32 -0500, Scott Ransom escribiÃ: 
> Hello all,
> 
> So I've just gotten bit by a SEGFAULT during a dpkg upgrade 
> using the 3.4 (or I guess gcc-4.0 archive).  This occurred 
> after --force'ing the /usr/lib64 issue with the libc6 upgrade.
> The messages can be found below.  Any suggestions about how to
> fix this?

What version of libc6 are you using? I cannot reproduce this using the
gcc-4.0 archive and my version of dpkg seems to be the same than yours.

Also note that given that you already took the time to run the program
inside gdb, it usually helps a bit to have a backtrace (command bt) to
know a bit more about where the program is when it fails. However, when
programs don't have debug symbols and are optimized, as it's probably
the case here, it won't tell much.

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dpkg SEGFAULT with upgrade using gcc-3.4 (or 4.0) repos

2005-03-16 Thread Scott Ransom
Hello all,

So I've just gotten bit by a SEGFAULT during a dpkg upgrade 
using the 3.4 (or I guess gcc-4.0 archive).  This occurred 
after --force'ing the /usr/lib64 issue with the libc6 upgrade.
The messages can be found below.  Any suggestions about how to
fix this?

Thanks a bunch,

Scott



Preparing to replace dpkg 1.10.25.0.0.1.gcc4 (using 
.../dpkg_1.10.27.0.0.1.gcc4_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement dpkg ...
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault.

...

uller(root):/var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg --version
Debian GNU/Linux `dpkg' package management program version 1.10.27 (amd64).
This is free software; see the GNU General Public Licence version 2 or
later for copying conditions.  There is NO warranty.
See dpkg --licence for copyright and license details.

...

uller(root):/var/cache/apt/archives# gdb /usr/bin/dpkg
GNU gdb 6.3-debian
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "x86_64-linux"...(no debugging symbols found)
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1".

(gdb) run -i dpkg_1.10.27.0.0.1.gcc4_amd64.deb
Starting program: /usr/bin/dpkg -i dpkg_1.10.27.0.0.1.gcc4_amd64.deb
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x002a956e39ba in strncasecmp () from /lib/libc.so.6

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Re: How do I bind mount removable media to my 32 bit chroot

2005-03-16 Thread Javier Kohen
El miÃ, 16-03-2005 a las 10:16 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribiÃ:

> Once you've done this, you should be able to mount/unmount from within the 
> chroot fine. I used to have it set up as a bind, and it didnt work, but this 
> worked for me.

Maybe what you guys want is a rbind mount. I haven't tried it, but
that's what the mount manpage says to use when you want deeper mounts to
be bound as well during a bind mount. See the manpage for better
wording :)


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Re: I can be a tester

2005-03-16 Thread Alex Perry
N-0-X (http://noxistes.org) wrote:
PPS: is the 'unstable' really that unstable? Or is it simply 'not as
stable' as the stable versions or the testing ones?
There's an official answer to that on the Debian website.  However,
stable: Used for months by other people (few bad side effects).
unstable: Has been successfully compiled at least twice, and has run 
without problems for at least one other person.  The maintainer thinks 
it is ok, and would like to hear from you if you think otherwise.

testing: It has been available in unstable for a week, and nobody has 
complained so far.  Of course, that doesn't mean it is necessarily any 
better than unstable - if nobody else used the package during that week.


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dpkg now segfaults

2005-03-16 Thread Jonathan Guthrie
I'm running gcc-3.4 on an HP laptop, and something new this morning is
that dpkg segfaults.  I can run the 32-bit dpkg with only minor
encouragement, but re-installing dpkg_1.10.27.0.0.1.gcc4_amd64.deb
doesn't appear to fix anything.  Any suggestions as to what to do next?


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Re: I can be a tester

2005-03-16 Thread james
> PS: if you know where  can try out debian for amd64s, please send me the
> link.

Oops, I gave you the wrong link... Andrei Mikhailovsky got it right ;)

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Re: I can be a tester

2005-03-16 Thread N-0-X (http://noxistes.org)
Thanks a lot Andrei.

Carsten: no, you didn't miss anything. I just sned that mail to all
the suscribers of the debian amd64 mailing list =)


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:25:45 +, Andrei Mikhailovsky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Great! Join the club!
> 
> read these howtos:
> 
> --quote from previous mail list message--
> 
> I have written this a few times yet not too clearly so again:
> -
> 
> 1. Here is the official Debian AMD64 HOWTO:
> 
> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html
> 
> 2. Find the CD images. The netinst and monolithic are easy to use.
> 
> http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/
> 
> 3. Choose to install sid or sarge.
> 
> 4. Download an iso and burn to a CD. Reboot off the CD.
> 
> 5A. For a sarge-amd64-netinst.iso use this /etc/apt/sources.list or a
> mirror:
> 
> deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-pure64 sarge main
> contrib non-free
> 
> 5B. For a sid-amd64-netinst.iso use this /etc/apt/sources.list or a
> mirror:
> 
> deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64 sid main contrib
> non-free
> 
> 6. There are many more possibilities, maybe more complicated too.
> 
> quote end
> 
> Best of luck
> 
> Andrei
> 
> On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 17:18 +0100, N-0-X (http://noxistes.org) wrote:
> > Hello.
> > I have a computer which has an amd64 3000+ as processor, and i've been
> > waiting for a while for the next debian which supports AMD64s. For the
> > moment, I haven't found anywhere where I can download the testings for
> > amd64s. That's why I agree to become a tester for debian amd64
> > architectures.
> > So, well, there you go =D
> >
> > PS: if you know where  can try out debian for amd64s, please send me the 
> > link.
> >
> > PPS: is the 'unstable' really that unstable? Or is it simply 'not as
> > stable' as the stable versions or the testing ones?
> >
> > Thx.
> > --
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> >
> >
> 
> 
> 


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Re: I can be a tester

2005-03-16 Thread james
> PS: if you know where  can try out debian for amd64s, please send me the
> link.

http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/dists/

> 
> PPS: is the 'unstable' really that unstable? Or is it simply 'not as
> stable' as the stable versions or the testing ones?

I use sarge, which I haven't had any major problems with.
sid is apparently quite good also.

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Re: I can be a tester

2005-03-16 Thread Andrei Mikhailovsky
Great! Join the club!

read these howtos:

--quote from previous mail list message--

I have written this a few times yet not too clearly so again:
-

1. Here is the official Debian AMD64 HOWTO:

http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html

2. Find the CD images. The netinst and monolithic are easy to use.

http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/

3. Choose to install sid or sarge.

4. Download an iso and burn to a CD. Reboot off the CD.


5A. For a sarge-amd64-netinst.iso use this /etc/apt/sources.list or a
mirror:

deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-pure64 sarge main
contrib non-free

5B. For a sid-amd64-netinst.iso use this /etc/apt/sources.list or a
mirror:

deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64 sid main contrib
non-free


6. There are many more possibilities, maybe more complicated too.

quote end


Best of luck

Andrei

On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 17:18 +0100, N-0-X (http://noxistes.org) wrote:
> Hello.
> I have a computer which has an amd64 3000+ as processor, and i've been
> waiting for a while for the next debian which supports AMD64s. For the
> moment, I haven't found anywhere where I can download the testings for
> amd64s. That's why I agree to become a tester for debian amd64
> architectures.
> So, well, there you go =D
> 
> PS: if you know where  can try out debian for amd64s, please send me the link.
> 
> PPS: is the 'unstable' really that unstable? Or is it simply 'not as
> stable' as the stable versions or the testing ones?
> 
> Thx.
> -- 
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> 
> 



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Re: I can be a tester

2005-03-16 Thread Carsten =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Prie=DF?=
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:18:04 +0100
"N-0-X (http://noxistes.org)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello.
> I have a computer which has an amd64 3000+ as processor, and i've been
> waiting for a while for the next debian which supports AMD64s. For the
> moment, I haven't found anywhere where I can download the testings for
> amd64s. That's why I agree to become a tester for debian amd64
> architectures.
> So, well, there you go =D
Did I miss something?

> 
> PS: if you know where  can try out debian for amd64s, please send me
> the link.
https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html

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2005-03-16 Thread N-0-X (http://noxistes.org)
Hello.
I have a computer which has an amd64 3000+ as processor, and i've been
waiting for a while for the next debian which supports AMD64s. For the
moment, I haven't found anywhere where I can download the testings for
amd64s. That's why I agree to become a tester for debian amd64
architectures.
So, well, there you go =D

PS: if you know where  can try out debian for amd64s, please send me the link.

PPS: is the 'unstable' really that unstable? Or is it simply 'not as
stable' as the stable versions or the testing ones?

Thx.
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Re: KDE Konqueror woes

2005-03-16 Thread Rob




I've definitely considered the lightweight wm route.  I've heard a lot
about fluxbox lately.  For 90% of my tasks (coding/browsing/email/IM),
they work just fine.  The part where I've seen issues is on the other
"features" that come along with a wm that is tied together in the
background--which ultimately leads to complexity and the issues we deal
with.  When considering multiple screens configuration, sound demons,
and getting various apps to talk well together, I find myself wanting a
more bloated wm like KDE.  If this was a computer at work or a laptop,
then I think a lightweight wm would be fine.  But for my home machine,
I want the extra "features".

Anyway, I haven't had some of the issues you've seen--just this file
browsing one.  Everything else is working great which is the only thing
that makes me stay.  The multi-monitor/virtual desktop capabilities of
KDE are simply awesome and that's a big deal to me.  File browsing and
playing movies are my two biggest headaches/shortcomings on this
machine.

Rob


Clive Menzies wrote:

  On (15/03/05 21:50), Rob wrote:
  
  
Just curious if anyone else has Konqueror/famd issues.  With famd, my 
Konqueror file browsing will work fine until x hours later.  At this 
point, Konqueror freezes on the first directory it shows.  Then on a 'ps 
aux', I notice the famd process in a "DUninterruptible sleep 
(usually IO)" or Z   Defunct" state--today was "D".  I have seen threads 
on the net about people giving up on fam and disabling it.  As a result, 
you have to pause when entering directories occasionally, but its 
usually better than Konqueror freezing.  I've been running without famd 
for a few weeks, but experienced Konqueror locking up again.  So I 
enabled, famd.  As usual, it worked for a while then the famd process 
went bad.  '/etc/init.d/famd stop' nor 'kill -9' can stop the process 
and restore order.

Anyone else see this issue?  Not sure if it might relate to our x86 
platform, just a KDE issue, or just my crazy issue.  It is getting quite 
annoying having no file browser.  Granted I'm more of a commandline 
person myself, but the file browser is of use occasionally.  Overall, my 
experience with KDE was better than that of gnome.  More things just 
worked out of the install.  So I'd prefer to stick with KDE if only I 
can resolve this fam issue.

  
  Hi Rob

I confess I've rather fallen out with KDE - it currently seems to launch
multiple windows for no reason that I've been able to fathom.  It also
crashes occasionally and  kwrite has sometimes screwed up files
when saving to a samba share.  I too, couldn't get on with Gnome - I
tried to like it but KDE seemed more intutitive.

I've just done a fresh install on another partition to experiment with
'light' wm's.  I've not approached this in a particularly scientific
manner and tried FVWM, which I'd seen mentioned on the list but I found
it too light; maybe it's configurable to do what I want but I haven't
got eons of time to experiment.  Next up, after a bit of googling I
tried xfce . and so far, I'm very impressed.  It has multiple
desktops and is quite intuitive but most of all it is lightning quick
compared to the KDE environment.

I'm sure it's not for everyone but if you've got to the point where you
want to move beyond KDE, I'd give it a try.

I'm writing this on the KDE system in mutt but impatient to get all my
apps and configuration sorted on the new system .. maybe tonight ;)

Regards

Clive

  





Re: KDE Konqueror woes

2005-03-16 Thread Clive Menzies
On (15/03/05 21:50), Rob wrote:
> Just curious if anyone else has Konqueror/famd issues.  With famd, my 
> Konqueror file browsing will work fine until x hours later.  At this 
> point, Konqueror freezes on the first directory it shows.  Then on a 'ps 
> aux', I notice the famd process in a "DUninterruptible sleep 
> (usually IO)" or Z   Defunct" state--today was "D".  I have seen threads 
> on the net about people giving up on fam and disabling it.  As a result, 
> you have to pause when entering directories occasionally, but its 
> usually better than Konqueror freezing.  I've been running without famd 
> for a few weeks, but experienced Konqueror locking up again.  So I 
> enabled, famd.  As usual, it worked for a while then the famd process 
> went bad.  '/etc/init.d/famd stop' nor 'kill -9' can stop the process 
> and restore order.
> 
> Anyone else see this issue?  Not sure if it might relate to our x86 
> platform, just a KDE issue, or just my crazy issue.  It is getting quite 
> annoying having no file browser.  Granted I'm more of a commandline 
> person myself, but the file browser is of use occasionally.  Overall, my 
> experience with KDE was better than that of gnome.  More things just 
> worked out of the install.  So I'd prefer to stick with KDE if only I 
> can resolve this fam issue.
Hi Rob

I confess I've rather fallen out with KDE - it currently seems to launch
multiple windows for no reason that I've been able to fathom.  It also
crashes occasionally and  kwrite has sometimes screwed up files
when saving to a samba share.  I too, couldn't get on with Gnome - I
tried to like it but KDE seemed more intutitive.

I've just done a fresh install on another partition to experiment with
'light' wm's.  I've not approached this in a particularly scientific
manner and tried FVWM, which I'd seen mentioned on the list but I found
it too light; maybe it's configurable to do what I want but I haven't
got eons of time to experiment.  Next up, after a bit of googling I
tried xfce . and so far, I'm very impressed.  It has multiple
desktops and is quite intuitive but most of all it is lightning quick
compared to the KDE environment.

I'm sure it's not for everyone but if you've got to the point where you
want to move beyond KDE, I'd give it a try.

I'm writing this on the KDE system in mutt but impatient to get all my
apps and configuration sorted on the new system .. maybe tonight ;)

Regards

Clive

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psm for galeon

2005-03-16 Thread Dr Gavin Seddon
Hi,
Can anyone tell me which package to install for psm for galeon?
Thanks
Gavin


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Re: Clock problem

2005-03-16 Thread Oliver Korpilla
Sythos schrieb:
What about your .config file in your kernel? RTC? RTC via ACPI? HPET?
Any kind about Speedscale/frequency_alteration?
I've deactivated the CPU Freq alteration - not the source. HPET is 
active, RTC is active, but I do not have RTC via ACPI (is that option 
too experimental for my configuration - I haven't found it in "make 
menuconfig").

.config is attached
Thanks and with kind regards,
Oliver Korpilla
#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
# Linux kernel version: 2.6.11
# Wed Mar 16 10:59:06 2005
#
CONFIG_X86_64=y
CONFIG_64BIT=y
CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_MMU=y
CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK=y
CONFIG_HPET_TIMER=y
# CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC is not set
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_CLEAN_COMPILE=y
CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y
CONFIG_LOCK_KERNEL=y

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=""
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y
CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT_V3 is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_AUDIT=y
CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL=y
CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=14
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_KOBJECT_UEVENT=y
CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y
CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y
# CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set
CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y
# CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set
CONFIG_FUTEX=y
CONFIG_EPOLL=y
# CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE is not set
CONFIG_SHMEM=y
CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_FUNCTIONS=0
CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_LABELS=0
CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_LOOPS=0
CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_JUMPS=0
# CONFIG_TINY_SHMEM is not set

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y
CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y
# CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set
# CONFIG_MODULE_SRCVERSION_ALL is not set
CONFIG_KMOD=y

#
# Processor type and features
#
CONFIG_MK8=y
# CONFIG_MPSC is not set
# CONFIG_GENERIC_CPU is not set
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_BYTES=64
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=6
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
CONFIG_MICROCODE=y
CONFIG_X86_MSR=y
CONFIG_X86_CPUID=y
CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y
CONFIG_MTRR=y
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL=y
# CONFIG_NUMA is not set
CONFIG_GART_IOMMU=y
CONFIG_SWIOTLB=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE=y
# CONFIG_X86_MCE_INTEL is not set
CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_PROBE=y

#
# Power management options
#
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_PM_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y
CONFIG_PM_STD_PARTITION=""

#
# ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m
CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=m
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m
# CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_IBM is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER=m

#
# CPU Frequency scaling
#
# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ is not set

#
# Bus options (PCI etc.)
#
CONFIG_PCI=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_PCI_MMCONFIG=y
# CONFIG_UNORDERED_IO is not set
CONFIG_PCI_MSI=y
CONFIG_PCI_LEGACY_PROC=y
CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y

#
# PCCARD (PCMCIA/CardBus) support
#
# CONFIG_PCCARD is not set

#
# PC-card bridges
#

#
# PCI Hotplug Support
#
# CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI is not set

#
# Executable file formats / Emulations
#
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y
CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y
CONFIG_IA32_AOUT=y
CONFIG_COMPAT=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC_COMPAT=y
CONFIG_UID16=y

#
# Device Drivers
#

#
# Generic Driver Options
#
CONFIG_STANDALONE=y
CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y
CONFIG_FW_LOADER=m

#
# Memory Technology Devices (MTD)
#
# CONFIG_MTD is not set

#
# Parallel port support
#
CONFIG_PARPORT=y
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=y
# CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL is not set
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO=y
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO=y
# CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set
CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y

#
# Plug and Play support
#
CONFIG_PNP=y
CONFIG_PNP_DEBUG=y

#
# Protocols
#
CONFIG_PNPACPI=y

#
# Block devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UMEM is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_COW_COMMON is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CRYPTOLOOP=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SX8 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UB is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_COUNT=16
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=65536
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y
CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=""
# CONFIG_LBD is not set
# CONFIG_CDROM_PKTCDVD is not set

#
# IO Schedulers
#
CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y
# CONFIG_ATA_OVER_ETH is not set

#
# ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support
#
CONFIG_IDE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y

#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set

Re: java plugin for firefox

2005-03-16 Thread Julien Tailleur
Julien Tailleur a écrit :
Hi,
under my old 32 bit AMD, I was running debian and had no trouble to 
use the java runtime environment plugin for  firefox. I had downloaded 
and installed the .bin from blackdown and made the sym link
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugin/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> 
/usr/local/.../libjavaplugin_oji.so

I tryed to follow the same protocol with my new amd64 system (both for 
sun java and blackdown java), but without success:

ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 40 2005-03-16 08:26 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> 
/usr/local/jre1.5.0/lib/amd64/libjava.so

The link was of course not directed to the "right" file. There is no 
"plugin" directory in sun java 1.5.0, so I installed blackdown java, 
wondering wether I  had just made the same mistake. It seems I had since 
the plugin is working perfectly...

Julien
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Re: How do I bind mount removable media to my 32 bit chroot

2005-03-16 Thread Andreas =?iso-8859-1?q?Kn=FCpfer?=
like for /home add a bind mount to /mnt or whateever directory includes your 
mount points but not the mount points itself.

i guess this should work fine with bind mounts

knue


On Wednesday 16 March 2005 09:49, Robert King wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I have openoffice running in a 32 bit chroot and things are working
> smoothly, except that it can't open files on removable media, because it
> only has bind mounts to /tmp and /home.
>
> I tried adding a bind mount for the directory in /media, but then I had
> trouble mounting and unmounting the removable media as an ordinary user.
>
> Any ideas - or is there something else I should be doing and not mucking
> about with this approach at all?
>
> Ta,
> Robert


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Re: How do I bind mount removable media to my 32 bit chroot

2005-03-16 Thread james
I had this problem running Cedega in a chroot, accesing CD-Roms etc.

What I did might work for you:

1. comment out the mounts in /etc/fstab to do with whatever device you want 
mounted in the chroot. (and unmount if its already mounted)

2. put entry similar to this in your /var/chroot/sid-ia32/etc/fstab (or 
whatever your chroot directory is):
/dev/hdc/mnt/cdrom  iso9660 ro,users,noauto 0   0
** make sure the mount point exists in the chroot (i.e. mine is 
/var/chroot/sid-ia32/mnt/cdrom )

3. insert your media, and "mount /mnt/cdrom" when you're in your chroot (you 
should be able to do it as a user now, but you might need to set permissions of 
/dev/hdc and /mnt/cdrom -- and I cant remember what these are.

Once you've done this, you should be able to mount/unmount from within the 
chroot fine. I used to have it set up as a bind, and it didnt work, but this 
worked for me.

Hope it works!
James

Robert King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> Hello All,
> 
> I have openoffice running in a 32 bit chroot and things are working smoothly,
> 
> except that it can't open files on removable media, because it only has bind
> 
> mounts to /tmp and /home.
> 
> I tried adding a bind mount for the directory in /media, but then I had 
> trouble mounting and unmounting the removable media as an ordinary user.
> 
> Any ideas - or is there something else I should be doing and not mucking about
> 
> with this approach at all?
> 
> Ta,
> Robert 
> 
> Robert King, Statistics, School of Mathematical & Physical Sciences,
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Re: Clock problem

2005-03-16 Thread Sythos
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 11:24:42AM +0100, Oliver Korpilla wrote:
> I've got a too fast clock on my Debian Pure64 machine on an AMD64 3500+.
> I'm using kernel.org plain vanilla 2.6.11 - which patches should I apply 
> to alleviate this? (my SATA hardware won't work with any lesser kernel 
> version, so I need this kernel version)

What about your .config file in your kernel? RTC? RTC via ACPI? HPET?
Any kind about Speedscale/frequency_alteration?

Regards
Sythos

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Clock problem

2005-03-16 Thread Oliver Korpilla
Hello!
I've got a too fast clock on my Debian Pure64 machine on an AMD64 3500+.
I'm using kernel.org plain vanilla 2.6.11 - which patches should I apply 
to alleviate this? (my SATA hardware won't work with any lesser kernel 
version, so I need this kernel version)

Thanks and with kind regards,
Oliver Korpilla
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java plugin for firefox

2005-03-16 Thread Julien Tailleur
Hi,
under my old 32 bit AMD, I was running debian and had no trouble to use 
the java runtime environment plugin for  firefox. I had downloaded and 
installed the .bin from blackdown and made the sym link
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugin/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> 
/usr/local/.../libjavaplugin_oji.so

I tryed to follow the same protocol with my new amd64 system (both for 
sun java and blackdown java), but without success:

ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 40 2005-03-16 08:26 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> 
/usr/local/jre1.5.0/lib/amd64/libjava.so

the about:plugins page of firefox stays empty of any sign of any java 
plugin.
Any guess?

Julien Tailleur
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How do I bind mount removable media to my 32 bit chroot

2005-03-16 Thread Robert King
Hello All,

I have openoffice running in a 32 bit chroot and things are working smoothly, 
except that it can't open files on removable media, because it only has bind 
mounts to /tmp and /home.

I tried adding a bind mount for the directory in /media, but then I had 
trouble mounting and unmounting the removable media as an ordinary user.

Any ideas - or is there something else I should be doing and not mucking about 
with this approach at all?

Ta,
Robert 

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Re: ntp-server segfaulting

2005-03-16 Thread Sythos
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:34:48AM +0100, Niklas Ögren wrote:
> Just want to check with someone else before I reportbug..
> Can you run ntp-server?
> Can you also run ntpq -> lpeers  without crash of ntpq and ntpd?
> Mar 16 07:27:53 trillian kernel: ntpd[24091]: segfault at  
> rip 00425eb7 rsp 007fb998 error 4
> /n - running pure64

There is already a open bug about this (i386 arch)

Regards
Sythos

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