Bug#770789: Reopen

2014-12-15 Thread Filipus Klutiero

reopen 770789
thanks

Hi Don,

On 2014-12-15 16:17, Don Armstrong wrote:

user tech-c...@packages.debian.org
usertag 770789 published

On Sat, 13 Dec 2014, Don Armstrong wrote:

I will announce the decision on -announce shortly.

Announced; closing this bug.



The CTTE decision announced is about df including "i" in the "units" output 
when asked for IEC output, an issue only related to the decision which needs to be made. As the 
example shows, the issue will present even when binary prefixes were not requested.

While the results of your poll suggest the CTTE is willing to accept ambiguity 
and inconsistency, it does not condone usage of invalid units.

Should you feel the need to publicize the results of future votes on mailing 
lists, thanks for avoiding debian-devel-announce, which is meant for important 
announcements.

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Bug#772686: [dolibarr] "an [...] free software" in extended description

2014-12-09 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: dolibarr
Version: 3.5.5+dfsg1-1
Severity: minor

The extended description starts with:

Dolibarr ERP & CRM is an easy to use open source/free software for small and 
medium companies, foundations or freelances.


"a [...] free software" is not a proper noun phrase. Unlike "logiciel", in 
English, software is uncountable.
By the way, all software in Debian is open source, so this is superfluous. I 
suggest:

Dolibarr is an easy to use ERP and CRM for small and medium companies, 
foundations or freelances.


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Bug#772073: [linux] "The Linux kernel x" in extended description

2014-12-04 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Source: linux
Version: 3.16.7-2
Severity: minor

This issue affects several (I presume all) extended descriptions of stock 
kernel packages. I will use linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 as an example. The 
description starts with:

The Linux kernel 3.16 and modules for use on PCs with AMD64, Intel 64 or
VIA Nano processors.


"The Linux kernel 3.16" should be replaced with something like:

1. "The Linux kernel (version 3.16)"
2. "Version 3.16 of the Linux kernel"
3. "Version 3.16 of Linux"
4. "Linux (version 3.16)"
5. Simply "Linux 3.16"

I would recommend either 1, 4 or 5.


By the way, this sentence is misleading. The x86-64 flavor can be used on quite 
a broad range of hardware, including servers.

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Bug#772066: [krdc] Incompatibility with FreeRDP (fails to connect to some RDP servers with certain options)

2014-12-04 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: krdc
Version: 4:4.14.1-1
Severity: important

I regularly connect to 2 RDP hosts. The one I use the most, a Windows 8 server, 
does not work anymore after upgrading xfreerdp from 1.0 to 
1.1.0~git20140921.1.440916e. My connection to a Windows Server 2003 host still 
works.

If I try the Windows 8 connection with FreeRDP "1.1", the connection never 
completes, causing the infamous blue screen (upstream 339490). This is a known issue 
caused by usage of an unreleased FreeRDP version tracked in upstream's ticket 341284.

New versions do not offer the same command-line interface. The interface isn't 
completely different. It appears to be possible to connect to any RDP server, 
but the right options need to be set. Also, it seems the target is also a 
variable - for some reason, my Windows Server 2003 appears to support any 
configuration I request, unlike my Windows 8 server.

I see a few options:

1. Revert FreeRDP to 1.0 and wait until dependants support the new interface.
2. Make krdc compatible with the new interface. Upstream has a patch to support 
the new interface, but it doesn't support the old interface at the same time. 
Either we develop a new patch, or we apply the existing patch and make krdc 
conflict with FreeRDP 1.0 and earlier. FreeRDP should perhaps conflict with 
current krdc too.


--- System information. ---
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux 3.16-3-amd64

Debian Release: jessie/sid
990 testing ftp3.nrc.ca
500 unstable ftp3.nrc.ca
1 experimental ftp3.nrc.ca

--- Package information. ---
Depends (Version) | Installed
===-+-=
kde-runtime (>> 4:4.10) | 4:4.14.2-1
libc6 (>= 2.1.3) | 2.19-13
libkcmutils4 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.14.2-3
libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.14.2-3
libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.14.2-3
libkdnssd4 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.14.2-3
libkio5 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.14.2-3
libknotifyconfig4 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.14.2-3
libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2+b1
libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2+b1
libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2+b1
libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.8.4) | 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2+b1
libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.8.0) | 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2+b1
libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1) | 4.9.1-19
libtelepathy-qt4-2 (>= 0.9.1) | 0.9.4+dfsg-3
libvncclient0 (>= 0.9.9) | 0.9.9+dfsg-6+b2


Recommends (Version) | Installed
==-+-===
rdesktop |
freerdp-x11 (>= 1.0.2) | 1.1.0~git20140921.1.440916e+dfsg1-2+b1


Suggests (Version) | Installed
=======-+-===
khelpcenter4 | 4:4.14.2-1
krfb | 4:4.14.2-1

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Bug#771814: [xul-ext-video-without-flash] "flash" not capitalized in descriptions

2014-12-02 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: xul-ext-video-without-flash
Version: 1.5.0-1
Severity: minor

The extended description starts with:

Fetch video source of flash based media and play the video directly with 
Iceweasel (a.k.a. Firefox), without the use of the flash plug-in.


"Flash" is a proper noun and should be capitalized.

Note that there are several plug-ins for Flash.

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Bug#770789: [tech-ctte] df sizes output format

2014-11-23 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: tech-ctte
Severity: normal
X-Debbugs-Cc: 761...@bugs.debian.org

As reported in #761424, the "sizes" output by df(1) are not actual sizes, due to the 
"units" used. The "units" used are merely unit prefixes. Moreover, df uses the same 
pseudo-units with different meanings. The output can therefore be misleading if one attempts to interpret it. 
2 different calls seem to give different measurements for the same filesystems:

chealer@debian:~$ LANG=C df -h
Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% 
Mounted on
rootfs  1.8T 317G  1.4T  19% /
udev 10M 0   10M   0% /dev
tmpfs   252M 5.4M  247M   3% 
/run
/dev/disk/by-uuid/a00f8767-e954-4b81-8035-c6bb414671cb  1.8T 317G  1.4T  19% /
tmpfs   5.0M 4.0K  5.0M   1% 
/run/lock
tmpfs   961M 0  961M   0% 
/run/shm
/dev/sdb2   2.2G 122M  2.0G   6% 
/tmp
chealer@debian:~$ LANG=C df -H
Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% 
Mounted on
rootfs  2.0T 340G  1.6T  19% /
udev 11M 0   11M   0% /dev
tmpfs   264M 5.7M  259M   3% 
/run
/dev/disk/by-uuid/a00f8767-e954-4b81-8035-c6bb414671cb  2.0T 340G  1.6T  19% /
tmpfs   5.3M 4.1k  5.3M   1% 
/run/lock
tmpfs   1.1G 0  1.1G   0% 
/run/shm
/dev/sdb2   2.4G 128M  2.2G   6% 
/tmp
chealer@debian:~$


In the first example call, JEDEC prefixes are used, while SI prefixes are used 
in the second.

Michael Stone denies, excusing the behavior with space scarcity, documentation, 
and what he considers as little impact:

I'm not going to deviate from upstream. [...] The
space is more important (in my opinion) than the need for a constant
reminder of the unit. The documentation is there for people to read the
first time, after that it's just not that important. (Even for the
numbers above the difference isn't really significant--the relative
sizes are the consistent, and what are the odds that you need exactly 12
gigasomethings? If you did need exactly that much space, you're probably
better off looking at kbytes or bytes anyway.)


The space scarcity and impact arguments do not hold, and unfortunately, even 
the documentation does not define the pseudo-sizes currently output.

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Bug#770089: [iceweasel] "Keep the passion for a free and open Internet burning bright! #ChooseIndependent" on start page

2014-11-18 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Carsten,

On 2014-11-18 15:20, Carsten Schoenert wrote:

Hello Filipus,

Am 18.11.2014 um 21:04 schrieb Filipus Klutiero:

But please, if you go that far, proceed via some link or something.
Do not directly include big logos from private media in my default
start page, without even offering me to get rid it of them. When I
see this start page on the main browser of an OS made by free
software advocates, I shake my head in disbelief. And we're
pretending to be advocating independence...

do you have taken the time and try out that "start page"?
If so I would mind you haven't written such a bug report! It's simple
video make by Mozilla to even explain who should own the net in these days.


As I said, "I find the video cool [and] I for one don't mind seeing some Firefox 
promotion..."



And if you don't like that, just turn it of.
Just change the start page to nothing.


I know how to workaround my install. The real victims are ignorant users, and 
our project's public image.

The problematic part is at the end. The cryptic "#ChooseIndependent" and logos 
from private media, shown by default and in large size. I don't condemn marketing, but if 
we promote independence, let's not promote the opposite at the same time.

There are several measures which can alleviate this besides simple removal:

 * only show the material once
 * offer to remove it
 * only show sharing material after the video was watched
 * do not show the sharing material (for example, only link to Mozilla's page)

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Bug#769859: [workrave] Displays 2 icons in the system tray (KDE?)

2014-11-17 Thread Filipus Klutiero

reopen 769859
retitle 769859 Applet displays a [duplicated] system tray icon rather than the 
applet in KDE
thanks

On 2014-11-17 15:39, Francois Marier wrote:

On 2014-11-17 at 07:22:34, Filipus Klutiero wrote:

Both are enabled, on Windows as well as on Debian. Disabling either removes an 
element.

Does this mean they are supposed to behave differently?

Ah, that's the problem then. You should just have "system tray icon" enabled
if you don't want the second icon. That's how I run it.


Ooh, OK, I get it. So disabling "Active applet" is indeed the right workaround for this 
(although disabling "Show system tray icon" would achieve the same as things stand).

By default, both preferences are enabled. 
http://www.workrave.org/blog/2004/02/03/windows-applet-works/ shows what the 
applet is supposed to be. I wouldn't see the applet on Windows 8 even though it 
is also enabled by default because one also needs to enable its toolbar, as the 
screenshot shows.

The applet does work on Windows 8, but there are several bugs with it, some 
reported upstream, some reported elsewhere, for example 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/workrave/+bug/981879
I didn't find one about KDE, but visibly, this is an upstream bug specific to 
KDE. It is not just a cosmetic bug, but apparently the applet being completely 
broken under KDE.

For what it's worth, I find this applet invasive and would be fine with us 
disabling it by default.



Francois




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Bug#769859: [workrave] Displays 2 icons in the system tray (KDE?)

2014-11-17 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi François,

On 2014-11-17 01:25, Francois Marier wrote:

Workrave has a system tray element with a sheep icon.

On this install, starting Workrave always causes the appearance of 2 such
elements. They would seem to represent 2 different Workrave instances, but
in fact, a single process is behind both, and trying to terminate any of
these apparent instances causes the disappearance of both elements.

Are you sure you don't have both the "system tray icon" and the "applet"
turned on? They can be turned on/off from the UI section of the preferences.


Both are enabled, on Windows as well as on Debian. Disabling either removes an 
element.

Does this mean they are supposed to behave differently?





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Bug#769859: [workrave] Displays 2 icons in the system tray (KDE?)

2014-11-16 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: workrave
Version: 1.10.4-3
Severity: normal
X-Debbugs-Cc: 767...@bugs.debian.org

Workrave has a system tray element with a sheep icon.

On this install, starting Workrave always causes the appearance of 2 such 
elements. They would seem to represent 2 different Workrave instances, but in 
fact, a single process is behind both, and trying to terminate any of these 
apparent instances causes the disappearance of both elements.

As it seems that interacting with any of these works, this is apparently nothing more 
than a "cosmetic" bug.


This issue does not affect Windows. According to upstream ticket #786, Workrave 
has KDE-specific issues including a lack of sounds. This might be one, but this 
could also be a duplicate of #767739, which affects GNOME (I do not use GNOME, 
and the ticket is not clear enough to tell).

--- System information. ---
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux 3.16-2-amd64

Debian Release: jessie/sid
990 testing ftp3.nrc.ca
500 unstable ftp3.nrc.ca
1 experimental ftp3.nrc.ca

--- Package information. ---
Package's Depends field is empty.

Package's Recommends field is empty.

Package's Suggests field is empty.

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Bug#769603: [rsibreak] Cannot file tickets upstream

2014-11-14 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: rsibreak
Version: 4:0.11-3
Severity: important
Tags: upstream

It is not possible to report issues with RSIBreak upstream. The page opened by 
"Report Bug..." reads:


Sorry, entering a bug into the product /rsibreak/ has been disabled.
Please press *Back* and try again.


Of course, Back is not even available.

I'm not sure why reporting was disabled, but upstream seems quite inactive. I 
don't see any tracker outside KDE's Bugzilla. It looks like upstream currently 
has no issue tracker.

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Bug#769588: [libbaloowidgets4] "baloo" not capitalized in extended description

2014-11-14 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libbaloowidgets4
Version: 4:4.14.0-1
Severity: minor

The extended description contains:
This package contains GUI widgets for baloo. 


"baloo" is a proper noun and should be capitalized.

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Bug#769586: [liboggkate-dev] typo "off" in extended description

2014-11-14 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: liboggkate-dev
Version: 0.4.1-4
Severity: minor

The extended description contains:

liboggkate provides an API for the encapsulation off kate streams into Ogg.


"off" should read "of".


By the way, I assume "kate" should be capitalized.

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Bug#769362: [kde-telepathy-data] "telepathy" not capitalized in extended description

2014-11-12 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: kde-telepathy-data
Version: 0.8.1-3
Severity: minor

The extended description contains:
KDE telepathy shared data. 

"Telepathy" is a proper noun and should be capitalized.


By the way, this sentence is incomplete, like many others from this source 
package's descriptions.

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Bug#768166: [libpsl0] Typo in extended description

2014-11-05 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libpsl0
Version: 0.5.1-1
Severity: minor

The extended description contains:

Libpsl allows checking domains against the Public Suffix List,
It can be used to avoid privacy-leaking 'super-cookies',
'super domain' certificates, for domain highlighting purposes
sorting domain lists by site and more.


This should be two sentences. The first comma should be replaced with a period.


By the way, I don't really understand what this library does after reading this 
description without getting more information, even though I am not ignorant 
about cookies, certificates and domains. Questions which come to mind:
What is the Public Suffix List?
What are 'super-cookies'?
What are 'super domain'-s?
What is domain highlighting?
What does "sorting domain lists by site" mean?

It is not necessary for the description to answer all of these, but if it's 
simple to answer some, this might help readers figure out what kind of service 
this package provides.

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Bug#768118: [icedove] Errors in NEWS.Debian

2014-11-04 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: icedove
Version: 31.2.0-1
Severity: minor

NEWS.Debian.gz contains:

icedove (31.2.0-1) unstable; urgency=low

  Mozilla implemented TLS 1.2 in NSS version 3.15.1 and Thunderbird 31.0 uses
  this as the default. It won't fall back to older protocol versions.

  This means every connection from Thunderbird/Icedove to a mail server will
  using TLS 1.2 with no fall back if you have configured TLS/SSL or STARTTLS for
  your connections.

  Some users reported trouble by this behavior. In case you are unable to get
  or sent any mails anymore from or to your mail server please ensure that
  your email provider is fully supporting TLS 1.2 if possible.

  There were reports that this causes problems with some providers (Bug
  #761245). This is usually indicated by:

   "connection to SMTP server was lost in the middle of the transaction."

  For information on how to fix that check README.Debian.

 -- Carsten Schoenert   Wed, 15 Oct 2014 18:38:00 +0200


"will using" is incorrect. This could read "will use".

"Some users reported trouble by this behavior." should surely read "Some users 
reported trouble *with* this behavior."

"to get or sent" should read "to get or send".

In the last paragraph, a comma is missing after "that".

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Bug#767679: [libsysfs2] "in Linux kernel" in extended description

2014-11-01 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libsysfs2
Version: 2.1.0+repack-4
Severity: minor

The extended description starts with:

Sysfs is a virtual file system in Linux kernel 2.5+ that provides a
tree of system devices.


"Linux kernel" should read either "the Linux kernel", or simply "Linux".


By the way, the "description" does not describe the package's contents.

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Bug#766936: [pkg-otr-team] Bug#766936: [libotr5] Extended description: "Deniability" is not a feature per se

2014-10-30 Thread Filipus Klutiero

On 2014-10-29 05:49, Ian Goldberg wrote:

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 08:56:07PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:

I am not convinced this is a good thing, but for sure the current
phrasing is incorrect. According to the technical paper, OTR would
merely send the key to the other participant, so only him could forge
messages, unless someone captured the message. So the only person who
can forge messages after the conversation is the other participant.
Since he could already forge messages, that measure does not increase
deniability in normal circumstances.

No, that's not quite right; OTR sends the authentication (MAC) key *in
the clear* so that anyone capturing the traffic on the wire can
subsequently modify transcripts however they like.


That's also what I was saying. It is not encrypted, but it has no effect except 
in cases where the communication is captured.

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Bug#766936: [pkg-otr-team] Bug#766936: [libotr5] Extended description: "Deniability" is not a feature per se

2014-10-28 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Harlan,

On 2014-10-26 23:08, Harlan Lieberman-Berg wrote:

On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 21:22 -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:

Rather than advertising 2 independant items, these could be merged in a
"Deniable authentication" item which would contain both sublists.

One reason why I think "deniability" is important as a separate feature
is that it is differentiating in the face of other, similar kinds of
programs.  Most encryption systems are not deniable; in fact, many
systems are not deniable /by design/.  This message, for example, is PGP
signed and is not deniable at all.  Anyone who gets a copy of the
message can verify that I, or someone with control over my private key,
composed and sent this message.  The Pidgin-Encryption plugin similarly
doesn't have deniability built into its threat model at all.


I agree it is an important feature...


In that context, I think it might be deserving of being listed as its
own feature.


I didn't mean it doesn't "deserve" being listed on its own. What I meant is 
that I consider it a subfeature of authentication, so I find it confusing to see it 
independent from authentication. Grouping would make it more understandable.



By the way, I do not understand what "Anyone can forge messages after a
conversation to make them look like they came from you." means.

It's part of the deniability feature.  While it's very difficult for an
attacker to forge a signature while the conversation is going on, the
ephemeral key used for signatures is publicly revealed after the
conversation is over.  That means that you could forge any messages, and
theoretically, provide some defense against someone who /did/ manage to
compromise the communication being able to prove that you said what you
said.



Thank you, I now understand what this sentence is about.

I am not convinced this is a good thing, but for sure the current phrasing is 
incorrect. According to the technical paper, OTR would merely send the key to 
the other participant, so only him could forge messages, unless someone 
captured the message. So the only person who can forge messages after the 
conversation is the other participant. Since he could already forge messages, 
that measure does not increase deniability in normal circumstances.

It is also unclear what "after a conversation" means. When does a conversation 
end? In any case, the technical paper doesn't say keys are revealed after a conversation.

It is confusing to write that "However, _during_ a conversation, your correspondent 
is assured the messages they see are authentic and unmodified."
While it is true, your correspondent obviously does not lose that assurance 
after a conversation.

"Deniable authentication" is IMO contradictory. A better term might be "private 
authentication", for example, meaning you privately authenticate to your correspondent. In any 
case, we shouldn't simply name the property, we should describe what it provides.

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Bug#766936: [libotr5] Extended description: "Deniability" is not a feature per se

2014-10-26 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libotr5
Version: 4.1.0-1
Severity: minor

The extended description contains:

 OTR allows you to have private conversations over IM by providing:
[...]
  - Authentication
- You are assured the correspondent is who you think it is.
  - Deniability
- The messages you send do _not_ have digital signatures that are
  checkable by a third party.  Anyone can forge messages after a
  conversation to make them look like they came from you. However,
  _during_ a conversation, your correspondent is assured the messages
  they see are authentic and unmodified.


So-called "deniability" is not a feature per se, unless authentication is taken 
for granted, which is clearly not the case here.

Rather than advertising 2 independant items, these could be merged in a "Deniable 
authentication" item which would contain both sublists.


By the way, I do not understand what "Anyone can forge messages after a conversation 
to make them look like they came from you." means.

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Bug#766935: [www.debian.org] packages.debian.org: missing some extended descriptions (unstable, experimental)

2014-10-26 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: www.debian.org
Severity: normal

packages.debian.org has been missing some extended descriptions in 
experimental, at least for many months. It seems this issue recently started to 
affect unstable too.

Packages which did not change their extended description recently are not 
affected, but at least those which changed in the 4 previous days seem to be 
affected. Compare https://packages.debian.org/en/sid/apache2-utils 
(apache2-utils having had its extended description fixed in 2.4.10-6) with 
https://packages.debian.org/en/sid/apache2-bin
2.4.10-6 was uploaded 2014-10-21.
Another example is https://packages.debian.org/en/sid/libotr5 (4.1.0-1 uploaded 
2014-10-21).

I never noticed this problem in short descriptions.

There is no error message - it simply looks as if the extended description was 
empty.

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Bug#764670: Re: Bug#764670: [libturbojpeg1] Please clarify description

2014-10-20 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Ondřej,

On 2014-10-14 10:48, Ondřej Surý wrote:

Version: 1:1.3.1-5

The package description has been reviewed by debian-l10n team and the
changes has been applied in 1:1.3.1-5.

Cheers,


Well, that's good, but this isn't really a l10n issue, and indeed, the 
problematic version reported is ulterior.

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Bug#765657: [debian-reference-en] "This makes its documentation difficult to be [...]" in section 1

2014-10-20 Thread Filipus Klutiero

severity 765657 minor
reopen 765657
thanks

On 2014-10-17 09:58, Osamu Aoki wrote:

control: tags 765657 - l10n
control: severity 765657 wishlist
control: tags 765657 + wontfix
Hi,

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:53:27PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:

Package: debian-reference-en
Version: 2.55
Severity: minor
Tags: l10n

"l10n"? Are you doing this as English language proof reading?  Strange
tag.


l10n is a common tag (which may indeed apply to English): 
https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#tags




Section 1 contains:

The Debian system itself is a moving target. This makes its
documentation difficult to be current and correct. Although the
current unstable version of the Debian system was used as the basis
for writing this, some contents may be already outdated by the time
you read this.

"to be" should read something like "to keep".

I think both are OK and practically the same.  Matter of taste.
(If you wish to nitpick on style, you can find many..)


Well, the current phrasing might be understandable, but a valid phrasing would 
be more to my taste.




By the way, the version of the Debian system used as basis is not the
current unstable version [anymore], and I'm not sure this paragraph is
warranted. Pretty much all healthy software changes. Debian's
documentation is no harder to keep updated than documentation for an
equally complex project, disregarding language issues. I suggest
shortening this to at most 2 sentences.

Do you know this document has many translations to update, too.  (They
are kept in sync.)  So this kind of changes are non-trivial.


If the English version is the master version, then fixing it would be all the 
more urgent. The better the master version becomes, the easier translating will 
be.


It is very
hardwork for me ...  Please do not comment like "no harder ...". Quite
frankly, I was offended.


I am sorry if you were offended, that should not have happened. I wrote "no harder", not 
"not hard". I am well aware that documenting is not easy. I was asking to change the 
paragraph, not necessarily to remove it entirely. I want to ensure that this paragraph is useful, 
and that it doesn't read as an excuse for providing a low quality document. I see 3 options:

 * Removal. The developer in me favors this, because the paragraph did not 
teach me anything. Very few projects have one release with documentation, then 
no further releases with functional changes. Almost all software documentation 
has the same challenge as the Debian Reference. Even then, readers may not 
realize this and it may be worth it to mention that.
 * A short version without going into the causes. I would suggest:"Parts of this are 
probably outdated."
 * Keep a treatment of the causes, but be clear. For example, Debian being a 
moving target can explain why the documentation would not be current, but how 
would it explain it not being *correct*?


It may be warranted to keep some treatment of the problem, but readers would 
surely prefer to read an apology with an invitation to report issues if they 
notice some, than something which makes the problem sound as unavoidable. And 
we would probably get more feedback too.


   What have you done for Debian?  If you can
provide a patch with translation to me, I may consider ... but I think
there are much higher priority things to update.  systemd ... gTLD, ...


minor severity is the minimal "priority" bugs can have. Even if the severity 
had been inflated, you would have been free to work on what you want, when you want.



If you check changelog or VCS, you understand this document is pretty
much single person work.  Responding this is already a burden ... sigh.


If you have a manpower issue, trying to get rid of tickets is definitely not 
going to solve it. Instead, respect the contributions you get, and try 
recruiting contributors so they can actually fix their issues and others, 
instead of being driven away.

Looking at this package, it does seem like you have a major lack of manpower. 
If you can't fix that organically, I strongly suggest you open an RFH. On the 
other hand, it might be possible to realign the reference's scope with its 
means. If this has to stay a single-person work, perhaps some parts can be 
eliminated or moved out (section 11 and the one on mc, for example).



If you are a native English speaker reviewing the whole text, give me
a good set of real style update suggestions.


I am not.



Hmmm... googling your name  I found:
  https://bugs.debian.org/501382
  https://bugs.debian.org/508240
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=chealer%40gmail.com

Maybe there was a reason for *ban*.  I should not waste time on this.


I am not sure what you mean. I certainly don't think "googling" my name is 
going to help solving this issue.



Some bug reports are OK.  But let's keep this as civi

Bug#765708: [libdc1394-22] "IEEE1394" in short description

2014-10-17 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libdc1394-22
Version: 2.2.3-1
Severity: minor

The short description is:
high level programming interface for IEEE1394 digital camera 


There should be a space between "IEEE" and "1394".

By the way, I guess "camera" should be plural.

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Bug#765657: [debian-reference-en] "This makes its documentation difficult to be [...]" in section 1

2014-10-16 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: debian-reference-en
Version: 2.55
Severity: minor
Tags: l10n

Section 1 contains:

The Debian system itself is a moving target. This makes its documentation 
difficult to be current and correct. Although the current unstable version of 
the Debian system was used as the basis for writing this, some contents may be 
already outdated by the time you read this.


"to be" should read something like "to keep".


By the way, the version of the Debian system used as basis is not the current 
unstable version [anymore], and I'm not sure this paragraph is warranted. 
Pretty much all healthy software changes. Debian's documentation is no harder 
to keep updated than documentation for an equally complex project, disregarding 
language issues. I suggest shortening this to at most 2 sentences.

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Bug#765500: [apache2-utils] typo "hostname" in extended description

2014-10-15 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: apache2-utils
Version: 2.4.10-5
Severity: minor

 The extended description starts with:

 Provides some add-on programs useful for any web server. These include:

 - ab (Apache benchmark tool)
 - fcgistarter (Start a FastCGI program)
 - logresolve (Resolve IP addresses to hostname in logfiles)


"hostname" should read "hostnames".


By the way, the programs listed are not all useful for any web server. This 
might have been the case a long time ago, but it is certainly not anymore with 
programs like check_forensic.

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Bug#764434: [bsdutils] extended description claims scriptreplay and others are needed

2014-10-13 Thread Filipus Klutiero

reopen 764434
thanks

Hi Andreas,

On 2014-10-08 04:20, Andreas Henriksson wrote:

Hello Filipus Klutiero!

On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:54:35PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:

Package: bsdutils
Version: 1:2.25.1-3
Severity: minor
X-Debbugs-Cc: 532...@bugs.debian.org

The extended description reads:

This package contains the bare minimum of BSD utilities needed for a
Debian system: logger, renice, script, scriptreplay, and wall. The
remaining standard BSD utilities are provided by bsdmainutils.

While bsdutils does contain the listed utilities, and while bsdutils is flagged 
as essential, Debian systems surely do not need script and scriptreplay, at 
least.


By the way, I'm not sure "standard BSD utilities" means anything, but if it does, the 
last paragraph of bsdmainutils's extended description strongly suggests the sentence is no longer 
correct. It could be removed or changed to "Other BSD utilities are provided by 
bsdmainutils."

This is a discussion you don't want to have with only me. Instead try
to reach consensus with what the wider Debian community thinks.


You must have received this mail because you are part of Debian's util-linux 
maintainers. I did not specifically send this email to you.


Personally I have no problem with getting rid of all the BSD legacy
but I know there are people out there who would rather see the sun
stop burning then this happening.

See for example the followup in the thread about trimming priority standard:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/09/msg00466.html


I guess the issue I meant to report wasn't clear. I'm sure some of the contents of 
bsdutils don't need priority essential, but I was by no means asking to get "rid of 
all the BSD legacy". All I'm asking is to change the description so readers stop 
being misled.



I'm thus going to close your bug report as I don't see anything
that's supposed to be fixed here. (I'll additionally set the wontfix
tag to make sure this shows up in anyone searching for things
in the future that has gone unfixed for various reasons.)


Tickets can be closed or tagged wontfix, not both simultaneously. In this case, 
you meant to tag wontfix (by closing, people looking for unfixed things will 
cease to see the ticket).


All I can do about the "standard BSD utilities" phrase not having any
meaning to you is to suggest you do something which by todays means might
be called archeology, or atleast getting to know the history.


I'm not sure which history you allude to, but if that's your only suggestion, I 
can only recommend to cease using that term.


Regards,
Andreas Henriksson



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Bug#764994: description of aptitude in section 2.2.1

2014-10-13 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Osamu,

On 2014-10-13 02:39, Osamu Aoki wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for pointing out this bug.  Actually, list was intended to be
like what exactly you pointed out.  It was my mistake in markup with
asciidoc.  (I got confused with mediawiki etc.)


Ah, no problem.


This seems to be the only case of this type of bug as I checked.


Good, thanks



As for the "Author", this is intentional choice.

emacs/vim, apt-get/aptitude, ... there is no right or wrong for which
one to use.  I can only speak of me.  "Debian" does not make position
on which software is the best one.  *I* personally feels people use
apt-get over aptitude too much.  Aptitude has some issues but *I* think
it is the best package management tool on Debian.


I have never used aptitude, so I certainly can't challenge your position.

However, what I can do is to tell you how such an information will be 
perceived. If I would find a reference of this kind in the *reference* of an OS 
I was learning, I would likely close the book and go back to my current OS or 
look for another option. In other words, the reader will either:

 * Picture the project as amateur
 * Simply consider the information as irrelevant, in the best case


I can also tell you some alternatives. Debian does make software choices. The 
reference *can* recommend a certain manager, if appropriate effort is made to 
ensure that the project wants to recommend that implementation.

You can also expose your preferences indirectly, by putting more emphasis on a 
certain manager. In fact, the reference already does that in quite an extreme 
way for aptitude, dedicating the entire section 2.3 to it.



As for combining text into long paragraph, I will not do so with 2
main reasons:
  * It does not match with the style used across this document.
  * It will break translations with no real advantage.

At least, 3 sub-bulleted items describe different things:
  * typical results of incidents
  * speculated mechanism of incidents
  * solution to incidents

Thanks


I'm not sure how this proposal would conflict with the style. As for breaking 
translations, that's hard to avoid. Lists should be introduced, and the item 
currently in third position does not introduce the following [sub-]items.

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Bug#765313: [apt] Please split the apt binary package

2014-10-13 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: apt
Version: 1.0.9.2
Severity: wishlist

Following commit b463a73a03a50d886edef176fbdb5827e675d64b 
<http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/apt/apt.git/commit/debian/control?id=b463a73a03a50d886edef176fbdb5827e675d64b>,
 the apt binary package is described as a "commandline package manager":

This package provides commandline tools for searching and
managing as well as querying information about packages
as a low-level access to all features of the libapt-pkg library.


Of course, this is just one component of apt, which is a dependency of all 
APT-based package managers.

I wanted to request a change to descriptions, but descriptions would be simplified and 
apt would be lighter by splitting the "commandline package manager" part into 
another package. This package could be named apt-cli. It would certainly contain 
/usr/bin/apt and apt-get. The apt binary package should keep library files, manual pages 
/ configuration as well as anything needed by APT-based package managers.

I recommend to have the apt binary package recommend "apt-cli", at least 
initially. For transitional reasons, this should probably even be an absolute dependency, 
unless the package containing the core APT is renamed, in which case apt could be a 
transitional package depending on apt-cli.

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Bug#764994: [debian-reference-en] Confusing description of aptitude in section 2.2.1

2014-10-12 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: debian-reference-en
Version: 2.54
Severity: minor

Section 2.2.1. |apt-get| / |apt-cache| vs. |aptitude| contains:


Although |aptitude| is a very nice interactive tool which the author mainly 
uses, you should know some cautionary facts:

 *

The |aptitude| command is not recommended for the release-to-release system 
upgrade on the |stable| Debian system after the new release.

 *

The use of "|apt-get dist-upgrade|" is recommended for it. See Bug #411280 
<http://bugs.debian.org/411280>.

 *

The |aptitude| command sometimes suggests mass package removals for the 
system upgrade on the |testing| or |unstable| Debian system.

 *

This situation has frightened many system administrators. Don't panic.

 *

This seems to be caused mostly by the version skew among packages depended 
or recommended by a meta-package such as |gnome-core|.

 *

This can be resolved by selecting "Cancel pending actions" in the |aptitude| command 
menu, exiting |aptitude|, and using "|apt-get dist-upgrade|".



That is, six first-level list items. However, these are really just 2 facts. 
Item 2 is a continuation of item 1 and items 4, 5 and 6 are a continuation of 
item 3.

This could be fixed by turning items 2, 4, 5 and 6 into second-level list 
items. However, I am not sure that using so many items is necessary. I would 
merge items 4, 5 and 6 into a single item.


By the way, this section would look a lot more serious if the mention to "the 
author" was removed.

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Bug#764861: [adwaita-icon-theme] "gnome" in extended description

2014-10-11 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: adwaita-icon-theme
Version: 3.14.0-2
Severity: minor

The extended description ends with:

The icons are used in many of the official gnome applications like eog,
evince, system monitor, and many more.


"gnome" is a proper name and should be capitalized.

By the way, "evince" should also be capitalized.

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Bug#764670: [libturbojpeg1] Please clarify description

2014-10-09 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libturbojpeg1
Version: 1:1.3.1-6
Severity: wishlist

The short description reads: TurboJPEG runtime library - SIMD optimized
The extended description reads:


The libjpeg-turbo JPEG library is a library for handling JPEG files.

libjpeg-turbo is a JPEG image codec that uses SIMD instructions (MMX, SSE2, 
NEON) to accelerate baseline JPEG compression and decompression on x86, x86-64, 
and ARM systems.

This package contains the TurboJPEG shared runtime library.




There are a couple of issues here. The first sentence is probably the shortest sentence to contain both 
"JPEG" and "library" 3 times. Some of these mentions are "indirect", but this could 
easily be brought down to 2: "libjpeg-turbo is a library for handling JPEG files."

More problematic is the fact that libjpeg-turbo is defined, but never referred 
to, while TurboJPEG is referred to, but never defined. One would think these 
are equivalent, but http://www.libjpeg-turbo.org/About/TurboJPEG explains that 
is not the case.

I would like to offer a solution, but there's a reason why I was reading these 
descriptions, and the situation appears non-trivial. The page above suggests "the 
TurboJPEG shared runtime library" would be wrong, since it defines TurboJPEG as an 
API. However, if libjpeg-turbo builds 2 libraries, that's not clear from upstream's 
explanation. This looks like clarification with upstream might be warranted.

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Bug#764434: [bsdutils] extended description claims scriptreplay and others are needed

2014-10-07 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: bsdutils
Version: 1:2.25.1-3
Severity: minor
X-Debbugs-Cc: 532...@bugs.debian.org

The extended description reads:
This package contains the bare minimum of BSD utilities needed for a Debian system: logger, renice, script, scriptreplay, and wall. The remaining standard BSD utilities are provided by bsdmainutils. 


While bsdutils does contain the listed utilities, and while bsdutils is flagged 
as essential, Debian systems surely do not need script and scriptreplay, at 
least.


By the way, I'm not sure "standard BSD utilities" means anything, but if it does, the 
last paragraph of bsdmainutils's extended description strongly suggests the sentence is no longer 
correct. It could be removed or changed to "Other BSD utilities are provided by 
bsdmainutils."

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Bug#761612: Re: [libatomic1] Incomplete extended description

2014-10-05 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Matthias,

On 2014-09-30 05:28, Matthias Klose wrote:

Control: tags -1 + wontfix


By the way, the meaning of "__atomic", found in the short
and the extended descriptions, is most unclear.

It says "__atomic built-in functions", not just "__atomic". I don't think the
package description is the place to describe the semantics of atomic functions.


I would also be very skeptical.

See the standards or the gcc-4.9-doc packages instead for such documentation.


Frankly, I don't think I want to learn how libatomic works. All I'd like to 
know is what it contains - why gcc demands it.


Why did you close this ticket? The extended description still opens with an 
incomplete sentence.

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Bug#761424: Reopen

2014-10-05 Thread Filipus Klutiero

reopen 761424
thanks

This bug persists.


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Bug#763835: Re: Bug#763835: [debian-installer] "linux" lowercase in changelog

2014-10-05 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Cyril,

On 2014-10-02 22:03, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

Filipus Klutiero  (2014-10-02):

Package: debian-installer
Version: 20141002
Severity: minor

The latest Changes contains this entry:

   * Bump linux kernel version from 3.14-2 to 3.16-2.

"Linux" is a proper noun and should be capitalized.

Not a bug.


Why do you think that this is not a bug?

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Bug#706368: [mediawiki] README.Debian broken/outdated

2014-10-02 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Thorsten,

On 2014-10-02 04:47, Thorsten Glaser wrote:

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013, Filipus Klutiero wrote:


As previously reported, README.Debian is mostly broken or outdated. However,

Feel free to suggest a patch.


The end could use a revision, but it's currently fair AFAICS, besides #469571 
and this very bug. I'll just review the fixes and report remaining problems if 
there are some.

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Bug#763835: [debian-installer] "linux" lowercase in changelog

2014-10-02 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: debian-installer
Version: 20141002
Severity: minor

The latest Changes contains this entry:

   * Bump linux kernel version from 3.14-2 to 3.16-2.


"Linux" is a proper noun and should be capitalized.


By the way, while thanking people in a changelog might be superfluous, 
specifying that you're not thanking someone is very much superfluous, and 
inappropriate.

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Bug#763753: [php-wikidiff2] "is PHP 5 module" in extended description

2014-10-02 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: php-wikidiff2
Version: 1.2+git03ea59f-1
Severity: minor

The extended description starts with:

Wikidiff2 is PHP 5 module providing external diff
engine for MediaWiki. 


The noun phrase "PHP 5 module" is missing a determiner, such as "a".


By the way, it it superfluous to specify the current PHP version.

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Bug#763678: [libtomcrypt0] "crypthographic" in extended description

2014-10-01 Thread Filipus Klutiero

On 2014-10-01 15:23, Filipus Klutiero wrote:

Package: libtomcrypt0
Version: 1.17-6
Severity: minor

The extended description starts with:

 LibTomCrypt is a well documented, public domain open source crypthographic 
toolkit written in C.


"crypthographic" should read "cryptographic".


By the way, the space in the compound modifier "well documented" should be replaced with 
a hyphen ("-").



Sorry, I think that was wrong. However, I suggest replacing "public domain open source" 
with just "public domain", since public domain implies open source, and since being part 
of Debian also implies open source.

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Bug#763678: [libtomcrypt0] "crypthographic" in extended description

2014-10-01 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libtomcrypt0
Version: 1.17-6
Severity: minor

The extended description starts with:

 LibTomCrypt is a well documented, public domain open source crypthographic 
toolkit written in C.


"crypthographic" should read "cryptographic".


By the way, the space in the compound modifier "well documented" should be replaced with 
a hyphen ("-").

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Bug#763676: [apache2-dev] incorrect description of the ASF's goals in extended description

2014-10-01 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: apache2-dev
Version: 2.4.10-3
Severity: minor

The extended description of apache2-dev and several other packages contains:
The Apache Software Foundation's goal is to build a secure, efficient and extensible HTTP server as standards-compliant open source software. The result has long been the number one web server on the Internet. 


This might have been true a long time ago, but that goal, if it is still one 
goal of the ASF, is certainly not *the* (only) goal of the ASF.
I think it is superfluous to describe the ASF's goals when describing Apache 
httpd anyway.


By the way, the should be a comma after "Apache 2 HTTP server" in the second 
paragraph.

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Bug#763651: [redeclipse] "Max OSX" in extended description

2014-10-01 Thread Filipus Klutiero

On 2014-10-01 12:14, Fabian Greffrath wrote:

Am Mittwoch, den 01.10.2014, 11:38 -0400 schrieb Filipus Klutiero:

"Mac OSX" should read "Mac OS X" or "OS X".

Since this is Debian, maybe nobody is interested in the content of the
entire line anyway? I'd suggest to remove it.

- Fabian




I considered suggesting the same too. That being said, since the description 
stresses the fact that the game is multiplayer, this is not uninteresting, 
since it clarifies that Red Eclipse is a candidate for someone looking for a 
multiplayer FPS to play with people not using Debian, so there's an argument to 
keep it.

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Bug#763651: [redeclipse] "Max OSX" in extended description

2014-10-01 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: redeclipse
Version: 1.4-6
Severity: minor

The extended description contains:

 * Available for Windows, Linux/BSD and Mac OSX


"Mac OSX" should read "Mac OS X" or "OS X".


By the way, a space is missing in the short description between "Cube" and "2".

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Bug#763415: [libturbojpeg1] Please clarify description

2014-09-29 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libturbojpeg1
Version: 1:1.3.1-3
Severity: wishlist

The short description reads: TurboJPEG runtime library - SIMD optimized
The extended description reads:

The LJT JPEG library is a library for handling JPEG files.

libjpeg-turbo is a JPEG image codec that uses SIMD instructions (MMX,
SSE2, NEON) to accelerate baseline JPEG compression and decompression
on x86, x86-64, and ARM systems.

This package contains the libturbojpeg.so.1 library, used by TigerVNC
and other users of the past TurboJPEG library.


This leaves room for greater clarity in a couple of places.

The first paragraph defines "The LJT JPEG library", but it seems nothing refers 
to that in the rest of the description, so that definition's relevance is unclear.

The last paragraph refers to "the past TurboJPEG library". It is unclear what "past" 
means there. Does it mean TurboJPEG is no longer current? If so, since the short description presents the 
package as "TurboJPEG runtime library", does this mean the package is outdated? Or what?

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Bug#763414: [libjpeg62] "with IIJ JPEG library" in extended description

2014-09-29 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libjpeg62
Version: 1:1.3.1-3
Severity: minor

The extended description contains:

The LJT JPEG library is an API/ABI
compatible with IIJ JPEG library.


The noun phrase "IIJ JPEG library" is missing a determiner (probably "the").

This would still yield a peculiar phrasing. I would suggest:

The LJT JPEG library and the IIJ JPEG library have the same API and ABI.


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Bug#763413: [hyphen-en-us] Missing period in extended description

2014-09-29 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: hyphen-en-us
Version: 2.8.8-1
Severity: minor

The short description reads:

This package contains the English (USA) hyphenation patterns for
LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org


A period is missing at the end.


Note that OpenOffice.org is now simply known as "OpenOffice".

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Bug#763410: [installation-guide] 4.3.1: "written directly a USB stick"

2014-09-29 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: installation-guide
Version: 20140916
Severity: minor
X-Debbugs-Cc: jo...@debian.org

Section 4.3.1. Preparing a USB stick using a hybrid CD or DVD image starts with:

Debian CD and DVD images can now be written directly a USB stick, which is a 
very easy way to make a bootable USB stick.


A preposition such as "on" or "to" is missing between "directly" and "a".


By the way, my English is not native, but 4.3's introduction looks like it 
contains a Frenchism to me:

You should be able to see to which device the USB stick was mapped by running 
the command dmesg after inserting it.


Shouldn't "to which device the USB stick was mapped" read "which device the USB 
stick was mapped to"?

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Bug#750519: closed by Michal Čihař (Bug#750519: fixed in phpmyadmin 4:4.2.9-1)

2014-09-28 Thread Filipus Klutiero

reopen 750519
thanks

On 2014-09-22 06:27, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:

This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report
which was filed against the phpmyadmin package:

#750519: [phpmyadmin] "Cannot load or save configuration": Misleading 
instruction from setup script

It has been closed by Michal Čihař .

Their explanation is attached below along with your original report.
If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a
better one in a separate message then please contact Michal Čihař 
 by
replying to this email.




I cannot see any difference with 4.2.9. I still see the misleading instruction, 
and not the proper one.

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Bug#640997: Upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Filipus Klutiero

tags 640997 upstream
thanks

I forwarded this upstream : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339490

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Bug#640997: Duplicate

2014-09-28 Thread Filipus Klutiero

merge 640997 732304
thanks

You probably have something wrong. I assume this is a duplicate of #640997.

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Bug#749673: closed by Michael Gilbert (Bug#749673: fixed in chromium-browser 36.0.1985.32-1)

2014-09-27 Thread Filipus Klutiero

On 2014-06-04 03:24, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:

This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report
which was filed against the chromedriver package:

#749673: [chromedriver] "chromium" not capitalized in extended description

It has been closed by Michael Gilbert .

Their explanation is attached below along with your original report.
If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a
better one in a separate message then please contact Michael Gilbert 
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replying to this email.




Hum, is this supposed to be fixed in unstable? Unstable's changelog doesn't 
contain 36.0.1985.32-1's changelog.

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Bug#761424: [coreutils] df outputs misleading sizes / invalid units

2014-09-27 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Michael,

On 2014-09-13 15:44, Michael Stone wrote:

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 03:07:50PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:

According to upstream ticket #18119, the output of df --si is misleading, since the 
numbers it outputs are different from --human-readable, even though the "units" 
are the same:


$ df --human-readable /dev/sdb2
Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb282G   66G   12G  86% /home
$ df --si /dev/sdb2
Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb288G   71G   13G  86% /home


Bob Proulx made a point that "G" does not mean GiB nor GB, from which he concludes that the output 
is simply ambiguous. I will go further and state that the output is invalid, since "G", 
"M" and others are merely unit prefixes, not actual units.
Although this would use more space, I fail to see a better solution than to add 
1 or 2 characters to each cell which contains a size. Note that the unit 
*should* normally be separated from the number with a space.


I'm not going to deviate from upstream. If they change, then the debian package 
will change. FWIW, I'd rather things stay the way they are. The space is more 
important (in my opinion) than the need for a constant reminder of the unit. 
The documentation is there for people to read the first time, after that it's 
just not that important.


If you remember all of the documentation you read, your brain is one of a kind 
and should be promised to research.


(Even for the numbers above the difference isn't really significant--the 
relative sizes are the consistent, and what are the odds that you need exactly 
12 gigasomethings? If you did need exactly that much space, you're probably 
better off looking at kbytes or bytes anyway.)


I find it inconsistent to provide 8 digits and more by default, then to say 
that precision is unimportant or that 1 or 2 spaces cost a lot. I would say 
1000 GB is very different from 1000 Gb. An SSD to fit the first will cost 
hundreds of euros more than one which just stores the latter.

Why did that message close the ticket?

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Bug#762645: [apache2-bin] Misleading extended description ("Do not install this package [...]")

2014-09-23 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: apache2-bin
Version: 2.4.10-2
Severity: minor

The last paragraph of apache2-bin's description reads:


This package contains the binaries only and does not set up a working
web-server instance. Install the "apache2" package to get a fully working
instance. Do not install this package unless you want to set-up the Apache
HTTP server entirely on your own.


Although the first 2 sentences may be useful, the last one is very confusing at 
best. Installing apache2-bin is needed to run Apache, so apache2-bin needs to 
be installed. Someone who wants to install Apache needs to install apache2-bin.

The author presumably assumed that administrators used APT and should not 
install apache2-bin directly, leaving apache2-bin's installation to APT or the 
computer. With that assumption, this is merely a terminological problem - who 
is installing a dependency of a requested package, the administrator or the 
computer (or both)?

The sentence should at least be clarified, but I think it should just be 
removed.


By the way, the short description's parenthesis ("binary files and modules") is redundant, since 
modules are binary files. I suggest to change "binary files" to something more specific or to 
remove "and modules".

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Bug#762246: [libmozjs185-1.0] "javascript" not capitalized in short description

2014-09-19 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libmozjs185-1.0
Version: 1.8.5-1.0.0+dfsg-4.2
Severity: minor

The short description reads:
Spidermonkey javascript engine 


"JavaScript" is a proper noun and should at least have a capital "J".

Note that "SpiderMonkey"'s "m" is usually uppercase.

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Bug#762049: [dragonplayer] Unable to play an audio CD (CDDA), except for the first track

2014-09-17 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: dragonplayer
Version: 4:4.14.0-1
Severity: important
Tags: upstream

As reported in upstream's ticket #222844, when playing an audio CD with Dragon Player, the menu 
items "Previous Chapter" and "Next Chapter" do nothing.

Since Dragon stops playing once the first track is over, I am effectively 
unable to play tracks from an audio CD other than the first. However, this 
behavior is reportedly different for the author of the upstream ticket. I am 
using the VLC Phonon backend, 0.7.2. I am setting severity assuming that all 
Debian users are currently basically unable to play audio CDs, but if this is 
incorrect, as the upstream ticket suggests might be the case, severity could be 
re-evaluated.

--- System information. ---
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux 3.14-2-amd64

Debian Release: jessie/sid
990 testing debian.mirror.rafal.ca
500 unstable debian.mirror.rafal.ca
1 experimental debian.mirror.rafal.ca

--- Package information. ---
Depends (Version) | Installed
===-+-
kde-runtime (>> 4:4.10) | 4:4.14.0-2
libc6 (>= 2.4) | 2.19-11
libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) | 1:4.9.1-14
libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.14.0-1
libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.14.0-1
libkio5 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.14.0-1
libkparts4 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.14.0-1
libphonon4 (>= 4:4.6.0really4.5.0) | 4:4.7.2-1
libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2
libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.8.0) | 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2
libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2
libsolid4 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.14.0-1
libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1) | 4.9.1-14
phonon | 4:4.7.2-1


Package's Recommends field is empty.

Package's Suggests field is empty.

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Bug#762004: [imagemagick-6.q16] "for quantum depth of 16 bits" in extended description

2014-09-17 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: imagemagick-6.q16
Version: 8:6.8.9.6-4
Severity: minor

The extended description ends with:

This version of imagemagick is compiled for quantum depth of 16 bits.


The noun phrase "quantum depth of 16 bits" is missing a determiner, such as "a".


By the way, it is not clear what "Q16" (in the short description) means.

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Bug#761936: [dolibarr] "third parties external modules" in extended description

2014-09-16 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: dolibarr
Version: 3.5.4+dfsg2-1
Severity: minor

The extended description ends with:
You can also add third parties external modules or develop yours. 


"third parties external modules" should either read something like "external modules from 
third parties" or "third-party external modules".


By the way, there is something inconsistent in the list. If the items are presented as examples, 
the last item shouldn't say "And a lot more modules". Either the presentation should just 
say "Dolibarr offers the following modules" or the last item should be removed.

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Bug#760900: libteam: improving long description

2014-09-15 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Dmitry,

On 2014-09-15 02:02, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 00:56:35 Filipus Klutiero wrote:

Thank you. Here are some more issues I notice:

"libteam" is a library for communication with kernel module (Netlink).|

The noun phrase "kernel module" is missing a determiner. Perhaps this should
read "with the Netlink kernel module".

Also, "libteam" should not be quoted.


This is already implemented in the Linux kernel by the bonding driver but

   unlike the bonding driver, libteam (user space) have the following
   additional features|

"libteam" is third person singular, therefore "have" should read "has".

Updated with our 5th correction of the long description:

http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/libteam.git/commit/?id=00659711ac9ef2e69d0825dfe947a2ea4c469eb6

Thanks again for all your suggestions.



Thanks again for the changes.

Here is libteamdctl0's description with more suggestions:

|
"libteamdctl" is a library for communication with teamd process
  (via D-Bus, unix socket or zeromq).|


|"libteamdctl" should not be quoted.
"unix" is a proper name and should be capitalized.

|

|
  It is used by `teamdctl` utility.|


The noun phrase "`teamdctl` utility||" is missing a determiner. This should read "|the 
|`teamdctl` utility||", or just "`teamdctl`||".


|
  .
  Libteam provides a mechanism to team multiple NICs (ports) at OSI Layer 2
  (Data link) into a single virtual NIC. The process is called "channel
  bonding", "Ethernet bonding", "channel teaming", "link aggregation", etc.
  This is already implemented in the Linux kernel by the bonding driver but
  unlike the bonding driver, libteam (user space) has the following
  additional features:|


|"unlike [...] additional"| has something redundant. I'm not sure what libteam 
is and whether is uses the bonding driver or whether it replaces it, but if it 
supplements it, I would suggest the following formulation:


The user-space libteam library adds the following features to the basic 
capabilities already implemented in the Linux kernel's bonding driver:



|
   * load-balancing for LACP support
   * NS/NA (IPV6) link monitoring
   * port priorities and stickiness ("primary" option enhancement)
   * separate per-port link monitoring setup
  .
  Libteam requires Linux kernel 3.3 or higher.|


The noun phrase "Linux kernel 3.3 or higher||"||" is missing a determiner. This could read 
"version 3.3 or higher of the Linux kernel", or just "Linux 3.3 or higher", although I'm not 
sure this sentence is necessary at this point.

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Bug#750891: flashplugin-nonfree: list of supported browsers

2014-09-15 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Bart,

On 2014-09-15 12:28, Bart Martens wrote:

Hi Filipus,

I'll point to https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer instead.


Pointing to wikis from descriptions is unusual and I think this is most 
important information. But thanks, I prefer no information to something 
incorrect. I suggest an alternative approach: document the most important 
browsers supported (at least Firefox / Iceweasel) and refer to the wiki page 
for more information. Perhaps the description should also explicitly say that 
Chromium is unsupported.



I don't know about SeaMonkey Navigator.  Feel free to add it to the wiki page
if it works for you.


I do not use it.



Chromium doens't work with flashplugin-nonfree but it does work with
pepperflashplugin-nonfree.  So Chromium should be removed from the wiki page.


Done



Regards,

Bart Martens



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Bug#760900: libteam: improving long description

2014-09-14 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Dmitry,

On 2014-09-14 21:50, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 17:51:33 Filipus Klutiero wrote:

The noun phrase "bonding driver" is missing a determiner such as "the" (this
could read "unlike the bonding driver").

Also, I would recommend adding a comma after that.

Thanks. Description updated yet again, I hope it is all good now:

http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/libteam.git/diff/?id=99cd2aff05febfaa8e3e8434828865aa13851c60



Thank you. Here are some more issues I notice:


|
"libteam" is a library for communication with kernel module (Netlink).|


The noun phrase "kernel module" is missing a determiner. Perhaps this should read 
"with the Netlink kernel module".

Also, "libteam" should not be quoted.


|
This is already implemented in the Linux kernel by the bonding driver but
  unlike the bonding driver, libteam (user space) have the following
  additional features|


"libteam" is third person singular, therefore "have" should read "has".

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Bug#761612: [libatomic1] Incomplete extended description

2014-09-14 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libatomic1
Version: 4.9.1-13
Severity: minor

The extended description starts with:

library providing __atomic built-in functions.



By the way, the meaning of "__atomic", found in the short and the extended 
descriptions, is most unclear.

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Bug#760900: tagged as pending

2014-09-14 Thread Filipus Klutiero

On 2014-09-13 23:20, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:57:36 Filipus Klutiero wrote:

Thanks. There is an issue left in "into logicalone (teamdev)||". The noun
phrase is missing a determiner. This could read "into a single logical
one", but "logical one" is at best unclear. I'd suggest "into a single
virtual NIC".

Thanks, I hope it is better now:

 
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/libteam.git/diff/?id=aa5e280ba53d84d9eb547c0060abada42abb523d



It is, thank you. I notice an issue in the following sentence:


|
This is already implemented in the Linux kernel by the bonding driver but
  unlike bonding driver libteam (user space) have the following additional
  features|


The noun phrase "bonding driver" is missing a determiner such as "the" (this could read 
"unlike the bonding driver").

Also, I would recommend adding a comma after that.

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Bug#761424: [coreutils] df outputs misleading sizes / invalid units

2014-09-13 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: coreutils
Version: 8.23-2
Severity: normal
Tags: upstream

According to upstream ticket #18119, the output of df --si is misleading, since the 
numbers it outputs are different from --human-readable, even though the "units" 
are the same:


$ df --human-readable /dev/sdb2
Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb282G   66G   12G  86% /home
$ df --si /dev/sdb2
Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb288G   71G   13G  86% /home


Bob Proulx made a point that "G" does not mean GiB nor GB, from which he concludes that the output 
is simply ambiguous. I will go further and state that the output is invalid, since "G", 
"M" and others are merely unit prefixes, not actual units.
Although this would use more space, I fail to see a better solution than to add 
1 or 2 characters to each cell which contains a size. Note that the unit 
*should* normally be separated from the number with a space.

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Bug#699139: [disktype] outputs misencoded Volume name for UDF disk ("<4300><6900><7600><6900>[...]")

2014-09-13 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Hi Eriberto,

On 2014-09-13 00:15, Eriberto Mota wrote:

Hi Filipus,

I am the new disktype maintainer.

Can you check if the file udf.c[1], dated 2009-04-05, solves the
problem? If yes, I will add a patch to disktype.

Thanks a lot for your attention.

Cheers,

Eriberto

[1] 
http://disktype.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/disktype/disktype/udf.c?revision=1.6&view=markup


The only difference with the current file is indentation, so... no, no 
improvement.

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Bug#760900: tagged as pending

2014-09-13 Thread Filipus Klutiero

On 2014-09-13 02:39, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:12:27 Filipus Klutiero wrote:

Thank you. One more issue persists:

Libteam provides mechanism to team multiple NICs (ports) into logical one
(teamdev) at OSI Layer 2 (Data link).

"provides mechanism" is incorrect. "mechanism" is missing a determiner, such
as "a" (the sentence could alternatively read "Libteam allows several NICs
(ports) to be grouped into a single logical NIC [...]").

Thanks, updated as advised:

 
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/libteam.git/commit/?id=ab95564b6214336007431051da104fce0dc66051



Thanks. There is an issue left in "into logicalone (teamdev)||". The noun phrase is missing a determiner. 
This could read "into a single logical one", but "logical one" is at best unclear. I'd suggest 
"into a single virtual NIC".

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Bug#760900: tagged as pending

2014-09-11 Thread Filipus Klutiero

On 2014-09-09 01:44, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:

tag 760900 pending
--

We believe that the bug #760900 you reported has been fixed in the Git
repository. You can see the commit message below and/or inspect the
commit contents at:

 http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/libteam.git/diff/?id=0d58638

(This message was generated automatically by
  'git-post-receive-tag-pending-commitmsg' hook).
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commit 0d58638 (HEAD, master)
Author: Dmitry Smirnov 
Date:   Tue Sep 9 05:40:41 2014

 Improve long description (Closes: #760900).
 
  Thanks, Filipus Klutiero.


Thank you. One more issue persists:

Libteam provides mechanism to team multiple NICs (ports) into logical one 
(teamdev) at OSI Layer 2 (Data link).


"provides mechanism" is incorrect. "mechanism" is missing a determiner, such as "a" (the 
sentence could alternatively read "Libteam allows several NICs (ports) to be grouped into a single logical NIC 
[...]").


By the way, I have never heard about "channel teaming". Wikipedia however mentions 
"NIC teaming".

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Bug#760900: [libteamdctl0] "Libteam provide mechanism" in extended description

2014-09-08 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libteamdctl0
Version: 1.12-1
Severity: minor

The extended description contains:


Libteam provide mechanism to team multiple NICs (ports) into one logical one 
(teamdev) at L2 layer.


"Libteam" is singular, therefore "to provide" should be third person singular and end with an 
"s" ("provides").


By the way, I wonder what "L2 layer" means.

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Bug#754335: Follow-up

2014-09-07 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Removal of the test results was requested in #760809.

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Bug#760809: [php5-common] Please do not ship test-results.txt.gz

2014-09-07 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: php5-common
Version: 5.6.0+dfsg-1
Severity: wishlist

php5-common ships /usr/share/doc/php5-common/test-results.txt.gz, a 289 kB file 
which contains nothing but... test results. Not shipping that file in the 
binary package would make it a quarter lighter.

According to a comment from Ondřej Surý in #754335, shipping that file is 
intentional, hence wishlist severity.

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Bug#760248: [dpkg] --verify: Please define or explain md5sum verification

2014-09-01 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: dpkg
Version: 1.17.13
Severity: wishlist

The documentation of the new --verify option discusses the check available:

-V, --verify [package-name...]
 Verifies the integrity of package-name or all packages if omitted, by 
comparing information from the files installed by a package with the files 
metadata information stored in the dpkg database. The origin of the files 
metadata information in the database is the binary packages themselves. That 
metadata gets collected at package unpack time during the installation process.
 Currently the only functional check performed is an md5sum verification 
against the stored value in the files database. It will only get checked if the 
database contains the file md5sum. To check for any missing metadata in the 
database, the --audit command can be used.
 The output format is selectable with the --verify-format option, which by 
default uses the rpm format, but that might change in the future, and as such, 
programs parsing this command output should be explicit about the format they 
expect.


The md5sum verification performed should be defined and/or its relevance should 
be explained (ideally in terms which don't expect the reader to know about 
hashing algorithms), so that readers understand what a failure means.

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Bug#760089: [libspandsp-doc] Sentence fragment in extended description

2014-08-31 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libspandsp-doc
Version: 0.0.6-2
Severity: minor

The extended description starts with an incomplete sentence:
a low-level signal processing library that modulates and demodulates signals commonly used in telephony, such as the "noise" generated by a fax modem or DTMF touchpad. 


This seems to suggest the package contains the library itself. I suggest:


spandsp is a low-level signal processing library that modulates and demodulates signals 
commonly used in telephony, such as the "noise" generated by a fax modem or 
DTMF touchpad.


Other binary packages start with the same incomplete sentence.

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Bug#760023: [libbalooqueryparser4] "baloo" not capitalized in extended description

2014-08-30 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libbalooqueryparser4
Version: 4:4.14.0-1
Severity: minor

The extended description contains:

This package contains the baloo query parser library ported from Nepomuk.


"Baloo" is a proper noun and should be capitalized.


Note that this also applies to libbaloowidgets.

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Bug#759756: [libktpcommoninternalsprivate7] Typo "contians" in extended description

2014-08-29 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libktpcommoninternalsprivate7
Version: 0.8.1-2
Severity: minor

The extended description ends with:

This contians the generic common components.


"contians" should read "contains".

By the way, "internal" should be pluralized in the short description.

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Bug#759755: [libdebconfclient0] "This is a reimplementation of the original debconf version in C." in extended description

2014-08-29 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libdebconfclient0
Version: 0.191
Severity: minor

The extended description reads:

Debconf is a configuration management system for Debian packages. It is
used by some packages to prompt you for information before they are
installed. This is a reimplementation of the original debconf version
in C.

This is the libraries needed by libdebconfclient-dev and cdebconf.


The last definition is the one intended. The first belongs to cdebconf. Replacing "This" 
with "cdebconf" in the first sentence would fix. However, the proper fix may be to remove 
the first definition, since a definition of cdebconf doesn't seem necessary.

By the way, libdebconfclient is apparently more than the libraries needed by 
libdebconfclient-dev and cdebconf. Packages are usually defined by what they 
provide rather than by attempting to list their dependants by extension.

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Bug#758758: [python-wstools] unclear description

2014-08-20 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: python-wstools
Version: 0.4.3-1.1
Severity: minor

The short description of python-wstools is:
WSDL parsing services package for Web Services

Its extended description reads:

Python module for WSDL parsing services package for Web Services.


I do not understand what python-wstools contains. While that's no guarantee, it 
would likely help to stick to full sentences in the extended description and 
perhaps expand the acronym.

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Bug#758754: [libvncserver] "vnc" lowercase in short descriptions

2014-08-20 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libvncserver
Version: 0.9.9+dfsg-6
Severity: minor

Most binary packages contain "vnc" lowercase. "VNC" is an acronym and should be 
uppercase.

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Bug#757747: [libspandsp-doc] "the libspandsp" in extended description

2014-08-10 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libspandsp-doc
Version: 0.0.6-1
Severity: minor

The extended description reads:
This package contains the online API in HTML for the libspandsp, a low level signal processing library that modulates and demodulates signals commonly used in telephony, such as the "noise" generated by a fax modem or DTMF touchpad. 


libspandsp is a proper noun. "the libspandsp" should read either "the spandsp signal processing 
library" as in the short description, or just "libspandsp" or "spandsp".

By the way, the issue reported in #725886 persists (in libspandsp2).

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Bug#757695: [sysvinit] VCS: "No repositories found"

2014-08-10 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: sysvinit
Version: 2.88dsf-53.3
Severity: normal

The URL indicated by Vcs-Browser is 
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/sysvinit
This yields:

No repositories found



I do not know what the URL should be.

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Bug#757626: [baloo] Typo "funcationality" in short descriptions

2014-08-09 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Source: baloo
Version: 4:4.13.3-1
Severity: minor

Half of baloo's binary packages contain "funcationality" rather than 
"functionality".

Note that the short descriptions of baloo4 and baloo-utils are identical.

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Bug#757625: [python-reportbug] confusing descriptions

2014-08-09 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: python-reportbug
Version: 6.5.0+nmu1
Severity: normal

The short description reads: Python modules for interacting with bug tracking 
systems
The extended description reads:

reportbug is a tool designed to make the reporting of bugs in Debian
and derived distributions relatively painless.

This package includes Python modules which may be reusable by other
tools that want to interact with the Debian bug tracking system.

To actually report a bug, install the reportbug package.


I imagine that reportbug only supports debbugs, but this is mentioned nowhere. 
The first paragraph seems to suggest that all Debian derivatives are supported, 
which - whatever reportbug supports - is incorrect, since several do not have 
any issue tracking system. I suggest:
Python modules for interacting with Debbugs


reportbug is a tool designed to make reporting issues in Debian relatively 
painless.

This package includes Python modules used by reportbug and which may be used by 
other
tools that want to interact with issue tracking systems powered by Debbugs, 
such as Debian's.

To actually report an issue, install the reportbug package.

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Bug#756869: [konq-plugins] Transform Image plugin missing

2014-08-02 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: konq-plugins
Version: 4:4.13.3-1
Severity: normal

According to the extended description, konq-plugins contains:

 - Transform Image (service menu): rotate and flip images


It appears konq-plugins no longer contains Transform Image. Konqueror does not 
offer to rotate or flip images.


By the way, the Microformat Icon plugin was apparently renamed "Konqueror Feed 
Icon".

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Bug#756865: [libgpgme++2] "c++" not capitalized in short description

2014-08-02 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libgpgme++2
Version: 4:4.13.3-2
Severity: minor

The short description reads:

c++ wrapper library for gpgme


The "c" in "C++" should be capitalized.

By the way, "gpgme" should be uppercase.

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Bug#756579: [neverball] Please remove the version number from window title

2014-07-30 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: neverball
Version: 1.6.0-2
Severity: wishlist
Tags: upstream

Neverball's window title is "Neverball 1.6.0". While the version number can be 
useful, it is not worth the space it uses in the taskbar.

I guess the version number was put in the window title because it appeared 
nowhere else in Neverball. It would be best to move it in some screen. 
Typically, that's About or Credits, but Neverball has no such thing at this 
time. Alternatively, the number could be in the welcome screen or in Help.

I assume this is an upstream issue.

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Bug#756570: [print-manager] Please do not recommend system-config-printer

2014-07-30 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: print-manager
Version: 4:4.13.3-1
Severity: wishlist

Starting with 4.13.3-1, print-manager recommends system-config-printer, 
following a request made in #751966. According to the reporter, print-manager 
users have good reasons to install system-config-printer and 
system-config-printer-udev. However, while both system-config-printer and 
system-config-printer-udev are quite small, system-config-printer has a 
considerable set of dependencies. On my not-so-GTK-free testing install, 
upgrading print-manager would cause 18 MB more of disk usage (following 5 MB of 
download).

According to #851966, print-manager should recommend system-config-printer-udev 
and system-config-printer separately. The former has a lot less dependencies 
and is an entirely reasonable dependency.

We should then try to provide print-manager with what it needs from 
system-config-printer without resorting to a dependency on 
system-config-printer. At first sight, it would seem possible to split the 
D-Bus service from system-config-printer.

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Bug#755976: [apache2] "It does not install the actual apache2 binaries." in extended description

2014-07-24 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: apache2
Version: 2.4.9-2
Severity: minor

The extended description reads:


The Apache Software Foundation's goal is to build a secure, efficient and
extensible HTTP server as standards-compliant open source software. The
result has long been the number one web server on the Internet.

This package contains the configuration files, init scripts and support
scripts. It does not install the actual apache2 binaries.


While apache2 does not *contain* Apache binaries, I fail to see an 
interpretation of the last sentence which is both correct and useful. Apache 
binaries are in apache2-bin, which apache2 depends on, so apache2 does provide 
Apache binaries.

If "apache2 does not install the actual apache2 binaries." doesn't mean that 
installing apache2 does not install the Apache binaries, the intended meaning needs 
clarification.

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Bug#755760: [neverball] Fails to grab cursor (cursor moves while playing)

2014-07-22 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: neverball
Version: 1.6.0-1
Severity: important

When a level is underway, Neverball 1.5 and prior versions used to grab the 
mouse cursor. The cursor would become invisible until the level was completed 
or failed. This is no longer the case after the upgrade to 1.6 on my testing 
install. The cursor is always visible, and can even leave the window when not 
playing fullscreen.

Seeing the cursor is an annoyance, but having it leave the window breaks the 
gameplay (unless someone was trying to make it even harder!), even though it's 
still possible to roll quite a bit. In fullscreen mode, the bug remains, but 
doesn't break ball control nearly as much. In fact, I'm not in a position to 
exclude that ball control works as it should in fullscreen mode.

This is surely the result of the SDL migration (which does fix my problems with 
mouse handedness and focus, BTW). I'm experiencing this in KDE. I've set 
severity to important assuming that this affects many but not everyone (in 
which case, I'd have marked this serious). I have no idea what factors could 
make only some setups affected. No error is logged on the console.

--- System information. ---
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux 3.14-1-amd64

Debian Release: jessie/sid
990 testing debian.mirror.rafal.ca
500 unstable debian.mirror.rafal.ca
1 experimental debian.mirror.rafal.ca

--- Package information. ---
Depends (Version) | Installed
===-+-==
neverball-data (= 1.6.0-1) | 1.6.0-1
libc6 (>= 2.11) | 2.19-7
libgl1-mesa-glx | 10.2.3-1
OR libgl1 |
libjpeg8 (>= 8c) | 8d1-1
libphysfs1 | 2.0.3-2
libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4) | 1.2.50-1
libsdl2-2.0-0 (>= 2.0.0) | 2.0.2+dfsg1-4
libsdl2-ttf-2.0-0 (>= 2.0.0) | 2.0.12+dfsg1-2
libvorbisfile3 (>= 1.1.2) | 1.3.2-1.4


Package's Recommends field is empty.

Suggests (Version) | Installed
========-+-===
neverputt |

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Bug#754338: Confirmed

2014-07-22 Thread Filipus Klutiero

I can confirm that sysvinit-core is no longer required. systemd 208-6 just 
transitioned to testing. libpam-systemd now has a strict dependency on 
systemd-sysv (which still conflicts with sysvinit-core).

Forced to choose between losing sysvinit-core and kde-plasma-desktop, I took 
the risk of replacing sysvinit-core with systemd-sysv. I am happy to report 
that this went very well. In fact, my system now boots at a scary pace.

This will surely affect many testing users now.

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Bug#755756: [libtommath0] "which is need" in extended description

2014-07-22 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libtommath0
Version: 0.42.0-1
Severity: minor

The extended description ends with:

This package contains the library itself which is need to run programs that
use LibTomMath.


A minimal fix would be to changed "need" to "needed", but that still looks 
strange. I would recommend simply:


This package contains the library needed to run programs that
use LibTomMath.


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Bug#755755: [libtomcrypt0] "the i386, x86_64 and ppc32 architecture" in extended description

2014-07-22 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libtomcrypt0
Version: 1.17-5
Severity: minor

The extended description ends with:

It has several optimizations for the
i386, x86_64 and ppc32 architecture.


"architecture" should end with an "s".

By the way, this sentence goes a little far compared to the usual scope of 
extended descriptions.

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Bug#755567: [linux] "firmware: failed to load rtl_nic/rtl8168f-1.fw (-2)" with RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller

2014-07-21 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Source: linux
Version: 3.14.12-1
Severity: minor

Systems with a RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller get a 
message such as:

[...] r8169 [...] firmware: failed to load rtl_nic/rtl8168f-1.fw (-2)

printed on tty1, unless non-free firmware which allegedly enhances the device 
is installed. On mine, kern.log contains:


Jul 21 20:42:52 vinci kernel: [6.551626] r8169 :03:00.0: firmware: 
failed to load rtl_nic/rtl8168f-1.fw (-2)
Jul 21 20:42:52 vinci kernel: [6.551631] r8169 :03:00.0: Direct 
firmware load failed with error -2
Jul 21 20:42:52 vinci kernel: [6.551633] r8169 :03:00.0: Falling back 
to user helper
Jul 21 20:42:52 vinci kernel: [6.552140] r8169 :03:00.0 eth0: unable to 
load firmware patch rtl_nic/rtl8168f-1.fw (-2)


This happens with any i386 image.

--- System information. ---
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux 3.14-1-amd64

Debian Release: jessie/sid
990 testing debian.mirror.rafal.ca
500 unstable debian.mirror.rafal.ca
1 experimental debian.mirror.rafal.ca

--- Package information. ---
Package's Depends field is empty.

Package's Recommends field is empty.

Package's Suggests field is empty.

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Bug#632656: Confirmed

2014-07-21 Thread Filipus Klutiero

found 632656 2013.60-1
tags 632656 + confirmed
thanks

This reproduces on my testing install.


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Bug#754917: [libndp0] "a library the IPv6" in extended description

2014-07-15 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Source: libndp
Version: 1.3-1
Severity: minor

Extended descriptions starts with:
libndp is a library the IPv6 Neighbor Discovery Protocol (NDP). 


Something like a "for" is missing between "a library" and "the IPv6 Neighbor 
Discovery Protocol (NDP)".

By the way, there is usually a hyphen in "high level".

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Bug#754439: [libmm-glib0] "bluetooth" not capitalized in extended description

2014-07-10 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libmm-glib0
Version: 1.2.0-1
Severity: minor

The extended description contains:

Whether built-in devices, USB dongles, bluetooth-paired telephones or 
professional RS232/USB devices with external power supplies, ModemManager is 
able to prepare and configure the modems and setup connections with them.



"Bluetooth" is a proper noun and should be capitalized.

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Bug#754338: [sysvinit-core] Incorrect priority (required)

2014-07-09 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: sysvinit-core
Version: 2.88dsf-53.2
Severity: serious
X-Debbugs-Cc: bi...@debian.org
X-Debbugs-Cc: 754...@bugs.debian.org

sysvinit-core's priority field presents it as required. While I never tried 
running a Debian system without it or its predecessor, it would appear that 
sysvinit-core is not / no longer required. The hints I have observed to that 
effect are the conflict declared by systemd-sysv, Michael Biebl's intervention 
in #754059, as well as a conflict declared by upstart, as pointed out by 
Michael.

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Bug#754335: [php5-common] Ships test-results.txt.gz

2014-07-09 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: php5-common
Version: 5.6.0~rc2+dfsg-1
Severity: normal
X-Debbugs-Cc: 752...@bugs.debian.org

The "fix" for #752099 has visibly introduced an even greater bug. php5-common 
now ships /usr/share/doc/php5-common/test-results.txt.gz, which contains... a lot of 
text, thankfully compressed to a .gz which still takes 287 kB.

By the way, many of the test results are failures.

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Bug#754333: [libreoffice-common] Failures on removal ("rmdir: failed to remove [...]")

2014-07-09 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: libreoffice-common
Version: 1:4.2.5-1
Severity: minor

Removing libreoffice-common produces quite some junk :

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libreoffice-common
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
After this operation, 76.6 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
(Reading database ... 122231 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing libreoffice-common (1:4.2.5-1) ...
rmdir: failed to remove '/var/lib/libreoffice/share/prereg/': No such file or 
directory
rmdir: failed to remove '/var/lib/libreoffice/share/': Directory not empty
rmdir: failed to remove '/var/lib/libreoffice/program/': No such file or 
directory
rmdir: failed to remove '/var/lib/libreoffice': Directory not empty
rmdir: failed to remove '/var/lib/libreoffice': Directory not empty
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.56) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.13-1) ...
Processing triggers for shared-mime-info (1.3-1) ...
Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'
Processing triggers for gnome-icon-theme (3.12.0-1) ...
root@vinci:/home/chealer#


The Unknown media errors are probably not libreoffice's fault, but I guess the 
5 rmdir failures are. I didn't investigate much, but taking the second as 
exemple, it won't remove because /var/lib/libreoffice/share/config/ (an empty 
directory) exists.

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Bug#754059: [systemd-sysv] Conflicts with sysvinit-core

2014-07-07 Thread Filipus Klutiero

On 2014-07-07 13:04, Michael Biebl wrote:

Am 07.07.2014 18:50, schrieb Filipus Klutiero:

I suppose there's a reason why a conflict was declared. I didn't mean
declaring a conflict with sysvinit-core is a bug *per se*. The bug is to
conflict with a package of required priority, namely sysvinit-core. If
it's necessary to conflict with a required package, then something's
very wrong with the package.

Nope, it's not.
See also other init systems, like the upstart package, which declare the
same Conflicts/Replaces.





I did specify "If it's necessary to conflict with a required package". I assume 
you're implying that's not the case for systemd-sysv and will report a bug regarding 
sysvinit-core's priority.

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Bug#754059: [systemd-sysv] Conflicts with sysvinit-core

2014-07-07 Thread Filipus Klutiero

reopen 754059
thanks

On 2014-07-07 07:09, Michael Biebl wrote:

Am 07.07.2014 08:56, schrieb Filipus Klutiero:

Package: systemd-sysv
Version: 204-14
Severity: serious

systemd-sysv conflicts with sysvinit-core, which is required.

Correct, systemd-sysv has a Conflicts/Replaces against sysvinit-core so
it is actually possible to switch between different init systems.

This is not a bug but intentional and necessary. Thus closing the bug
report.


Michael




I suppose there's a reason why a conflict was declared. I didn't mean declaring 
a conflict with sysvinit-core is a bug *per se*. The bug is to conflict with a 
package of required priority, namely sysvinit-core. If it's necessary to 
conflict with a required package, then something's very wrong with the package.

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Bug#754059: [systemd-sysv] Conflicts with sysvinit-core

2014-07-06 Thread Filipus Klutiero

Package: systemd-sysv
Version: 204-14
Severity: serious

systemd-sysv conflicts with sysvinit-core, which is required.

This is particularly problematic since libpam-systemd alternatively depends on 
systemd-sysv. On my testing install, APT's solution when asked to upgrade 
systemd is to remove sysvinit-core:

# LANG=C apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed and 
are no longer required:
  libcolamd2.8.0 lp-solve xulrunner-29
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  sysvinit-core
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  systemd-sysv
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libpam-systemd libsystemd-daemon0 libsystemd-id128-0 libsystemd-journal0 
libsystemd-login0 systemd
6 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.


Removing libpam-systemd isn't too tempting neither:

# LANG=C apt-get remove libpam-systemd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libcolamd2.8.0 libmodemmanagerqt1 libnetworkmanagerqt1 lp-solve xulrunner-29
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  colord hplip kde-plasma-desktop libpam-systemd network-manager plasma-nm 
plasma-widget-networkmanagement policykit-1 policykit-1-gnome 
printer-driver-postscript-hp udisks2
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 11 to remove and 5 not upgraded.


I managed to solve this safely by installing systemd-shim.

I was surprised to see APT propose the removal of a required package. I didn't 
test how that would go, but if that's not a problem, something must be wrong 
with its priority field. I'll save my system from such an experimentation and 
let others decide if this needs to be reassigned.

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