Re: Software for a NIC (Network Information Center)

2003-12-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 09:13:12AM +0100,
 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 29 lines which said:

 There are some Contries in the World without a NIC 

Not many: you just need one clerical worker to claim We have a NIC :-)

 Because I am working on 3rd World Projects I need to know whether
 there are LINUX Software to create a NIC.

The question has many implications. I suggest that you read first the
temporary documents in http://www.nic-generique.prd.fr/. After that,
do not hesitate to ask more specific questions. You can also call me
(+33 1 39 30 83 46).
 
 What Software do I need (even if I use Solaris). 

* Some form of database software (from PostgreSQL to simple ASCII text
  files),
* A nameserver (nsd, BIND, whatever),
* A [optional] whois server (we provide one),
* A [optional] Web interface.

 Please note, that this Contries I am working for are not rich, and
 do not need the last Supercomputers for routing some hundreds
 Domains.

I know. You can manage even dozens of thousands of domains on a
typical PC with Debian. The .nl zone (almost one million of domains)
runs fine on a PC.

Can you tell which countries?

 So I need to know, which Hardware I need. 

Two PC?
 
 I think, the full Hardware/Software can not exceed 150k US$, 
 better less. (the cost does not inlude the Online-UPS)

Since it is a Debian list, I will mention only free software, of
course.


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Re: Exim4 and mailman

2003-12-02 Thread Michael Wood
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 09:49:20AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:
[snip]
 I am not sure I am doing things the 'Right Way', but I am only using
 /etc/aliases for my mailman lists, and they are working just fine.
 
 $listname:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post $listname
 $listname-admin: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner $listname
 $listname-request:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd $listname
 $listname-owner: $listname-admin
 
 Change $listname to the real mailing list localpart and it works out
 of the box.  With Exim3 I did use the special routers and transports,
 but when I migrated to Exim4, I thought I would give this method a
 try, and it's working great.  The only problem with this method isthat
 you don't get virtual domain settings, I suppose.  Can anybody see any
 other problems with it?

If you do things the way Dale E Martin did it, Exim automatically
notices new lists.  If you do things as above, you have to add those 4
lines to /etc/aliases every time you add a new list.

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IMail GUI equivalent for Linux?

2003-12-02 Thread Steen Suder, privat
In the process of setting a little web  mail-hotel up, I've stumbled 
over a user-suggestion that calls for a webinterface for handling 
emailaddresses, forwards, spamfiltering and so on that is similar to the 
UI of the IMail Server (http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/).

The MTA will probably be either Exim or Postfix as I've no interest in 
Qmail. Local delivery is handled by what is necessary and reliable 
(Courier, Cyrus, whatever).

Users email access is POP3 and, secondarily, IMAP (for a few VIP-customers).

Any suggestions are welcome (also non-free and commercial ones).

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Re: IMail GUI equivalent for Linux?

2003-12-02 Thread Ole Myhre
Steen Suder, privat wrote:

In the process of setting a little web  mail-hotel up, I've stumbled 
over a user-suggestion that calls for a webinterface for handling 
emailaddresses, forwards, spamfiltering and so on that is similar to the 
UI of the IMail Server (http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/).

The MTA will probably be either Exim or Postfix as I've no interest in 
Qmail. Local delivery is handled by what is necessary and reliable 
(Courier, Cyrus, whatever).

Users email access is POP3 and, secondarily, IMAP (for a few 
VIP-customers).

Any suggestions are welcome (also non-free and commercial ones).

We run a nice combination of postfix+mysql, courier(pop3/imap)+mysql and 
spamassassin. All mail is delivered to Maildirs. And then you can code 
your own webinterface in PHP(or perl), so customers can manage their 
domains and accounts.

Take a look at http://kummefryser.dk/HOWTO/mail/postfix_mysql.html.

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Sendmail Queuing

2003-12-02 Thread Jason McMullen
Good Day All,

I'm running into an odd issue.  We have 2 servers that act as
front-end MX hosts running Sendmail.  These servers then smarthost all
mail back to a main server.  This works well at keeping the main server
unloaded due to dictionary attacks and whatnot.  The problem we're
seeing is the MX hosts bogging down when trying to deliver mail to the
main host.  

Does anyone have any tried and true methods for getting Sendmail to be a
little nicer about its queuing strategy?  Or is the best option qmail
or another MTA?

TIA!

-Jason


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Re: IMail GUI equivalent for Linux?

2003-12-02 Thread Steen Suder, privat
Ole Myhre wrote:
Steen Suder, privat wrote:

In the process of setting a little web  mail-hotel up, I've stumbled 
over a user-suggestion that calls for a webinterface for handling 
emailaddresses, forwards, spamfiltering and so on that is similar to 
the UI of the IMail Server 
(http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/).
SNIP

We run a nice combination of postfix+mysql, courier(pop3/imap)+mysql and 
spamassassin. All mail is delivered to Maildirs. And then you can code 
your own webinterface in PHP(or perl), so customers can manage their 
domains and accounts.

Take a look at http://kummefryser.dk/HOWTO/mail/postfix_mysql.html.
It looks like what I intend to do, except for the 
code-the-UI-your-self-part.

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/etc/lilo.conf and system.map mismatches

2003-12-02 Thread Theodore Knab
I was wondering if someone knew how to avoid system.map mismatch errors
when building 2 or more kernels from the same version.

Could someone look at my inserted the lilo.conf and file names and tell me if 
I have some type of formatting error ?

The kernel documention recommends that SMP users compile
2 kernels. The documentation recommends that one contains SMP support
while the other should be in-case SMP does not work with the hardware.

Reference from $my-kernel/Documentation/smp.txt:
If you are using LILO, it is handy to have both SMP and non-SMP
kernel images on hand. Edit /etc/lilo.conf to create an entry
for another kernel image called linux-smp or something.

Like the SMP recommendation, when I compile new stuff in I build a kernel
without the extra modules, just in-case. For example, I have an xfs-kernel and a non 
xfs
kernel.

The last time I built 2 kernels of the same version I got system map mismatch errors
after running system commands like ps.

Is there something wrong with the file format I am using for my kernel ?

My /etc/lilo.conf looks like this: 

lba32
boot=/dev/sda1
root=/dev/sda5
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
timeout=100
delay=100
prompt
vga=normal
default=Linux

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-xfs2 
  label=Linux
  read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19
label=failsafe
read-only

My files boot partition looks for this 2.4.19 kernel looks like this:

/boot/vmlinux-2.4.19
/boot/System.map-2.4.19

/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-xfs
/boot/System.map-2.4.19-xfs

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bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread David Zejda
what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
experiences/stability...?
i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.

thanks
David


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Re: IMail GUI equivalent for Linux?

2003-12-02 Thread Thomas GOIRAND
Hi !

I've already written such type of thing, but for Qmail, but not including
spam filterring (only spam-rbl for the moment). My software is not only a
web interface for qmail, but also for mysql, apache, bind  proftpd.

I always wanted to have Exim and Postfix compatibility, but I've never had
time to do so. That software is called Domain Technologie Control (DTC) and
is available in free licence for both: RedHat, Debian, Free  OpenBSD, and
generic unix tarball package.

It's still in beta, not because it's not fully usable (believe me it is),
but because I'm always adding some new possibilities.

As long as my software is made in a rother modular way, it would be realy
easy to have compatibility for Exim and Postfix. I always wanted to have it,
but never had time to do so. If you want to write it for Postfix, I have
some documentation available for that.

See http://thomas.goirand.fr/?rub=gplsousrub=dtc for more details about my
software. Please note that the site is not up-to-date at all, and that a lot
of new features have been added to my software, aspecialy considering:
- domain name registration
- band width monitoring BY SERVICES AND USERS (only email trafic accounting
is not done) wich I never seen anywhere else.
- some other addons like HTTPS and more...
- German localisation (now in 5 languages !)

Comming soon:
- A fully working domain name registration (with for now, only a module for
Tucows)
- Electronic paiement system (for the moment, paypal and worldpay system)

See ftp://ftp.gplhost.com for the latest versions of DTC. This ftp is also a
debian stable repository adding the following software to your package
listing:
- qmail  ucspi-tcp (the exact unmodified official qmail-src and
ucspi-tcp-src compiled binary for i386, avoiding waste of time because of
stupid licences problems...)
- checklocalpwd : the Jedi's /etc/popasswd file alternative auth for qmail
(thus avoiding the use of /etc/passwd system wide file)
- dtc latest version for woody

Add the following line to your /etc/apt/source.list:
deb ftp://ftp.gplhost.com/debian stable main

Note that this is totaly unoficial, as long as I don't want to make
advertising before 1.0 version.

Cordialement,

Thomas GOIRAND

mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web perso: http://thomas.goirand.fr
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GPL.Host: Open source hosting worldwide

- Original Message - 
From: Steen Suder, privat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:57 PM
Subject: IMail GUI equivalent for Linux?


 In the process of setting a little web  mail-hotel up, I've stumbled
 over a user-suggestion that calls for a webinterface for handling
 emailaddresses, forwards, spamfiltering and so on that is similar to the
 UI of the IMail Server (http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/).

 The MTA will probably be either Exim or Postfix as I've no interest in
 Qmail. Local delivery is handled by what is necessary and reliable
 (Courier, Cyrus, whatever).

 Users email access is POP3 and, secondarily, IMAP (for a few
VIP-customers).

 Any suggestions are welcome (also non-free and commercial ones).

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 Steen Suder http://www.suder.dk/
 ICQ UIN 4133803


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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Sneferu
For speed

maradns.org.

Somwhat more secure djbdns.

Regards.

At 17:46 02.12.2003, David Zejda wrote:

what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
experiences/stability...?
i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
thanks
David
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System Hardware Tracking

2003-12-02 Thread Chris G.
Well it's finally hit the point where we have a few machines where we have
no idea what's in them.  As an ISP with several hundred machines, it's
become quite the challenge to remember all of the hardware.

Has anyone made/found/dreamed of a script that can be run on each machine
to keep track of the hardware in that machine.  I'm more than happy to
write one using perl/mysql, but figured I would throw this out to the list
and see if someone has found/written something they use.

Oh, and for all of those saying, write it down as your build the machine.
I wish that would work, we just have too many people dealing with these
things and when a problem comes up, our concern is to fix the problem
ASAP, not count our hardware.

Thanks for any help/ideas.

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Re: IMail GUI equivalent for Linux?

2003-12-02 Thread John Keimel
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 02:57:11PM +0100, Steen Suder, privat wrote:
 In the process of setting a little web  mail-hotel up, I've stumbled 
 over a user-suggestion that calls for a webinterface for handling 
 emailaddresses, forwards, spamfiltering and so on that is similar to the 
 UI of the IMail Server (http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/).
 
 The MTA will probably be either Exim or Postfix as I've no interest in 
 Qmail. Local delivery is handled by what is necessary and reliable 
 (Courier, Cyrus, whatever).
 
 Users email access is POP3 and, secondarily, IMAP (for a few VIP-customers).

I was recently lookin at http://webcp.can-host.com/ for some
inspiration. 

It looks like there isn't a complete open-source web/email control panel
yet. Oddly enough, I'm working on the same thing, actually a second
generation of the same thing. We've got one in place at $COMPANY1 right
now, but the interface sucks and the billing isn't integrated with the
provisioning. So version 2.0 will do all that together AND make coffee
for us! :)Version 2.0 will be put online at $COMPANY2 and possibly
be packaged up and released open source. We have not yet decided. 

If you come across anything else that looks useful to you, please feel
free to let the list know, so we can also check it out. If we release
our version publicly, I'll be sure to let people know via this list (as
it'll be packaged in .deb format only - at least by us - someone else
can make RPM's :) 

HTH

j

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Theodore J. Knab
Bind 9 is a total revamp of Bind 8.

Bind8 had a bunch of security holes in it, so tinyDNS
and the others came about. Bind9 was a rewrite from scratch
with security as a goal. 

Bind9 is good for all types of general DNS stuff.

Tiny-DNS is probably good for some applications,
however you are going to find more documentation
on Bind than anything else.

http://www.nominum.com/getOpenSourceResource.php?id=6

On 02/12/03 16:46 +0100, David Zejda wrote:
 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
 
 thanks
 David
 
 
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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread W.D.McKinney
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 06:46, David Zejda wrote:
 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
 
 thanks
 David
 


Have to start somewhere so dive in after you feel you enough info. :-)
We run djbdns,rbldns,etc., right now. All under Woody and one FreeBSD
box.

We have used Bind9 also and both have advantages. I like djbdns for the
ease of editing which is personal taste. Bind9 has more available for
GUI front-ends and hooks with other applications. 

So usually I recommend people start with Bind so as to prove the saying,
'Only the experienced walk with a limp.' 

That said, you may very well be happy with either as they both power the
Net.

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Re: IMail GUI equivalent for Linux?

2003-12-02 Thread J.J. van Gorkum
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 14:57, Steen Suder, privat wrote:

 The MTA will probably be either Exim or Postfix as I've no interest in 
 Qmail. Local delivery is handled by what is necessary and reliable 
 (Courier, Cyrus, whatever).
 
have a look at PostPHPix...

http://www.bee-side.org/free_software/argo/postPHPix/

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Fraser Campbell
On December 2, 2003 10:46 am, David Zejda wrote:

 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.

For an authoritative only server there is nsd.  It's only available in 
unstable but it should be easy enough to backport.  I've only used it on my 
home network so far but I do plan to eventually use it in my hosting 
business, I rather like the idea of diversity (bind being the defacto 
standard for dns it is subject to much more attacks).

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:46:55PM +0100,
 David Zejda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
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 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?

nsd. See
URL:http://www.nic-generique.prd.fr/sheets/practical/nameserver-en
for a good reason.



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Re: Software for a NIC (Network Information Center)

2003-12-02 Thread Alex Borges

  I think, the full Hardware/Software can not exceed 150k US$, 
  better less. (the cost does not inlude the Online-UPS)
 
I think the largest cost wont be in actual software infrastructure but
in value added infrastructure.

Do you want people to buy the domains online, that will cost. 

Do you want them to be able to receive e-invoices according to some
standards or do you want it to integrate to an invoicing system that
works for your country, that will cost.

The bandwith, that will cost.

Offsite Backups, backup system, redundant storage...that may cost...if
you really really need it. But not more than an extra 50k for a small
redundant NAS.

Do you want to run a toplevel domain? Hey, that goes for well less than
20k dollars easy with a couple of redundant servers. It will do for
hundreds of thousends (probably millions) of domains. With redundant
power supplies and a redundant active/passive pair setup (two servers
for the primary, two for the secondary). 

 Since it is a Debian list, I will mention only free software, of
 course.
 
Naturally!

I say, pocket the rest of the 150k and send some this way!

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Re: Software for a NIC (Network Information Center)

2003-12-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 09:13:12AM +0100,
 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 29 lines which said:

 There are some Contries in the World without a NIC 

Not many: you just need one clerical worker to claim We have a NIC :-)

 Because I am working on 3rd World Projects I need to know whether
 there are LINUX Software to create a NIC.

The question has many implications. I suggest that you read first the
temporary documents in http://www.nic-generique.prd.fr/. After that,
do not hesitate to ask more specific questions. You can also call me
(+33 1 39 30 83 46).
 
 What Software do I need (even if I use Solaris). 

* Some form of database software (from PostgreSQL to simple ASCII text
  files),
* A nameserver (nsd, BIND, whatever),
* A [optional] whois server (we provide one),
* A [optional] Web interface.

 Please note, that this Contries I am working for are not rich, and
 do not need the last Supercomputers for routing some hundreds
 Domains.

I know. You can manage even dozens of thousands of domains on a
typical PC with Debian. The .nl zone (almost one million of domains)
runs fine on a PC.

Can you tell which countries?

 So I need to know, which Hardware I need. 

Two PC?
 
 I think, the full Hardware/Software can not exceed 150k US$, 
 better less. (the cost does not inlude the Online-UPS)

Since it is a Debian list, I will mention only free software, of
course.




Re: Exim4 and mailman

2003-12-02 Thread Michael Wood
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 09:49:20AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:
[snip]
 I am not sure I am doing things the 'Right Way', but I am only using
 /etc/aliases for my mailman lists, and they are working just fine.
 
 $listname:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post $listname
 $listname-admin: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner $listname
 $listname-request:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd $listname
 $listname-owner: $listname-admin
 
 Change $listname to the real mailing list localpart and it works out
 of the box.  With Exim3 I did use the special routers and transports,
 but when I migrated to Exim4, I thought I would give this method a
 try, and it's working great.  The only problem with this method isthat
 you don't get virtual domain settings, I suppose.  Can anybody see any
 other problems with it?

If you do things the way Dale E Martin did it, Exim automatically
notices new lists.  If you do things as above, you have to add those 4
lines to /etc/aliases every time you add a new list.

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/etc/lilo.conf and system.map mismatches

2003-12-02 Thread Theodore Knab
I was wondering if someone knew how to avoid system.map mismatch errors
when building 2 or more kernels from the same version.

Could someone look at my inserted the lilo.conf and file names and tell me if 
I have some type of formatting error ?

The kernel documention recommends that SMP users compile
2 kernels. The documentation recommends that one contains SMP support
while the other should be in-case SMP does not work with the hardware.

Reference from $my-kernel/Documentation/smp.txt:
If you are using LILO, it is handy to have both SMP and non-SMP
kernel images on hand. Edit /etc/lilo.conf to create an entry
for another kernel image called linux-smp or something.

Like the SMP recommendation, when I compile new stuff in I build a kernel
without the extra modules, just in-case. For example, I have an xfs-kernel and 
a non xfs
kernel.

The last time I built 2 kernels of the same version I got system map mismatch 
errors
after running system commands like ps.

Is there something wrong with the file format I am using for my kernel ?

My /etc/lilo.conf looks like this: 

lba32
boot=/dev/sda1
root=/dev/sda5
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
timeout=100
delay=100
prompt
vga=normal
default=Linux

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-xfs2 
  label=Linux
  read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19
label=failsafe
read-only

My files boot partition looks for this 2.4.19 kernel looks like this:

/boot/vmlinux-2.4.19
/boot/System.map-2.4.19

/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-xfs
/boot/System.map-2.4.19-xfs

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bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread David Zejda
what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
experiences/stability...?
i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.

thanks
David




Re: IMail GUI equivalent for Linux?

2003-12-02 Thread Thomas GOIRAND
Hi !

I've already written such type of thing, but for Qmail, but not including
spam filterring (only spam-rbl for the moment). My software is not only a
web interface for qmail, but also for mysql, apache, bind  proftpd.

I always wanted to have Exim and Postfix compatibility, but I've never had
time to do so. That software is called Domain Technologie Control (DTC) and
is available in free licence for both: RedHat, Debian, Free  OpenBSD, and
generic unix tarball package.

It's still in beta, not because it's not fully usable (believe me it is),
but because I'm always adding some new possibilities.

As long as my software is made in a rother modular way, it would be realy
easy to have compatibility for Exim and Postfix. I always wanted to have it,
but never had time to do so. If you want to write it for Postfix, I have
some documentation available for that.

See http://thomas.goirand.fr/?rub=gplsousrub=dtc for more details about my
software. Please note that the site is not up-to-date at all, and that a lot
of new features have been added to my software, aspecialy considering:
- domain name registration
- band width monitoring BY SERVICES AND USERS (only email trafic accounting
is not done) wich I never seen anywhere else.
- some other addons like HTTPS and more...
- German localisation (now in 5 languages !)

Comming soon:
- A fully working domain name registration (with for now, only a module for
Tucows)
- Electronic paiement system (for the moment, paypal and worldpay system)

See ftp://ftp.gplhost.com for the latest versions of DTC. This ftp is also a
debian stable repository adding the following software to your package
listing:
- qmail  ucspi-tcp (the exact unmodified official qmail-src and
ucspi-tcp-src compiled binary for i386, avoiding waste of time because of
stupid licences problems...)
- checklocalpwd : the Jedi's /etc/popasswd file alternative auth for qmail
(thus avoiding the use of /etc/passwd system wide file)
- dtc latest version for woody

Add the following line to your /etc/apt/source.list:
deb ftp://ftp.gplhost.com/debian stable main

Note that this is totaly unoficial, as long as I don't want to make
advertising before 1.0 version.

Cordialement,

Thomas GOIRAND

mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web perso: http://thomas.goirand.fr
Get a hosting account: http://gplhost.com
GPL.Host: Open source hosting worldwide

- Original Message - 
From: Steen Suder, privat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:57 PM
Subject: IMail GUI equivalent for Linux?


 In the process of setting a little web  mail-hotel up, I've stumbled
 over a user-suggestion that calls for a webinterface for handling
 emailaddresses, forwards, spamfiltering and so on that is similar to the
 UI of the IMail Server (http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/).

 The MTA will probably be either Exim or Postfix as I've no interest in
 Qmail. Local delivery is handled by what is necessary and reliable
 (Courier, Cyrus, whatever).

 Users email access is POP3 and, secondarily, IMAP (for a few
VIP-customers).

 Any suggestions are welcome (also non-free and commercial ones).

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Sneferu
For speed
maradns.org.
Somwhat more secure djbdns.
Regards.
At 17:46 02.12.2003, David Zejda wrote:
what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
experiences/stability...?
i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
thanks
David
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Re: IMail GUI equivalent for Linux?

2003-12-02 Thread John Keimel
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 02:57:11PM +0100, Steen Suder, privat wrote:
 In the process of setting a little web  mail-hotel up, I've stumbled 
 over a user-suggestion that calls for a webinterface for handling 
 emailaddresses, forwards, spamfiltering and so on that is similar to the 
 UI of the IMail Server (http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/).
 
 The MTA will probably be either Exim or Postfix as I've no interest in 
 Qmail. Local delivery is handled by what is necessary and reliable 
 (Courier, Cyrus, whatever).
 
 Users email access is POP3 and, secondarily, IMAP (for a few VIP-customers).

I was recently lookin at http://webcp.can-host.com/ for some
inspiration. 

It looks like there isn't a complete open-source web/email control panel
yet. Oddly enough, I'm working on the same thing, actually a second
generation of the same thing. We've got one in place at $COMPANY1 right
now, but the interface sucks and the billing isn't integrated with the
provisioning. So version 2.0 will do all that together AND make coffee
for us! :)Version 2.0 will be put online at $COMPANY2 and possibly
be packaged up and released open source. We have not yet decided. 

If you come across anything else that looks useful to you, please feel
free to let the list know, so we can also check it out. If we release
our version publicly, I'll be sure to let people know via this list (as
it'll be packaged in .deb format only - at least by us - someone else
can make RPM's :) 

HTH

j

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Theodore J. Knab
Bind 9 is a total revamp of Bind 8.

Bind8 had a bunch of security holes in it, so tinyDNS
and the others came about. Bind9 was a rewrite from scratch
with security as a goal. 

Bind9 is good for all types of general DNS stuff.

Tiny-DNS is probably good for some applications,
however you are going to find more documentation
on Bind than anything else.

http://www.nominum.com/getOpenSourceResource.php?id=6

On 02/12/03 16:46 +0100, David Zejda wrote:
 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
 
 thanks
 David
 
 
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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Alex Borges
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 09:46, David Zejda wrote:
 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.

Please explore the list for a three month very fun discussion about it
(i still remember it).

 
 thanks
 David
 




Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread W.D.McKinney
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 06:46, David Zejda wrote:
 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
 
 thanks
 David
 


Have to start somewhere so dive in after you feel you enough info. :-)
We run djbdns,rbldns,etc., right now. All under Woody and one FreeBSD
box.

We have used Bind9 also and both have advantages. I like djbdns for the
ease of editing which is personal taste. Bind9 has more available for
GUI front-ends and hooks with other applications. 

So usually I recommend people start with Bind so as to prove the saying,
'Only the experienced walk with a limp.' 

That said, you may very well be happy with either as they both power the
Net.

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Re: IMail GUI equivalent for Linux?

2003-12-02 Thread J.J. van Gorkum
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 14:57, Steen Suder, privat wrote:

 The MTA will probably be either Exim or Postfix as I've no interest in 
 Qmail. Local delivery is handled by what is necessary and reliable 
 (Courier, Cyrus, whatever).
 
have a look at PostPHPix...

http://www.bee-side.org/free_software/argo/postPHPix/

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Fraser Campbell
On December 2, 2003 10:46 am, David Zejda wrote:

 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.

For an authoritative only server there is nsd.  It's only available in 
unstable but it should be easy enough to backport.  I've only used it on my 
home network so far but I do plan to eventually use it in my hosting 
business, I rather like the idea of diversity (bind being the defacto 
standard for dns it is subject to much more attacks).

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:46:55PM +0100,
 David Zejda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 11 lines which said:

 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?

nsd. See
URL:http://www.nic-generique.prd.fr/sheets/practical/nameserver-en
for a good reason.





Re: Software for a NIC (Network Information Center)

2003-12-02 Thread Alex Borges

  I think, the full Hardware/Software can not exceed 150k US$, 
  better less. (the cost does not inlude the Online-UPS)
 
I think the largest cost wont be in actual software infrastructure but
in value added infrastructure.

Do you want people to buy the domains online, that will cost. 

Do you want them to be able to receive e-invoices according to some
standards or do you want it to integrate to an invoicing system that
works for your country, that will cost.

The bandwith, that will cost.

Offsite Backups, backup system, redundant storage...that may cost...if
you really really need it. But not more than an extra 50k for a small
redundant NAS.

Do you want to run a toplevel domain? Hey, that goes for well less than
20k dollars easy with a couple of redundant servers. It will do for
hundreds of thousends (probably millions) of domains. With redundant
power supplies and a redundant active/passive pair setup (two servers
for the primary, two for the secondary). 

 Since it is a Debian list, I will mention only free software, of
 course.
 
Naturally!

I say, pocket the rest of the 150k and send some this way!

LEX
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