Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-26 Thread Sergey A. Ribalchenko

On Thu, 25 May 2000, Chris Wagner wrote:

> >> >> Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :)  But I still prefer 
> >> >> individualism
> >> >> to socialism.^^
> >> >m.b. you missed, did you mean onanism?
> >> Ok, I don't really know what you mean?
> >Onanism is yet another ..ism, also known as masturbation :-\
> 
> Um, yeah I knew that, but what does that have to do with anything?  Is this
> some kind of inside joke that 3 people in the whole world get?

Did you received a mail or you still prefer smth to socialism?

mmm.. plebeian.com - that's right ;) In special to Roman Empire ;))


Best wishes,
Sergey.






Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Wagner
At 05:42 AM 5/24/00 +, Sergey A. Ribalchenko wrote:
>> >> Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :)  But I still prefer individualism
>> >> to socialism.^^
>> >m.b. you missed, did you mean onanism?
>> Ok, I don't really know what you mean?
>Onanism is yet another ..ism, also known as masturbation :-\

Um, yeah I knew that, but what does that have to do with anything?  Is this
some kind of inside joke that 3 people in the whole world get?


+---+
|-=I T ' S  P R I N C I P L E  T H A T  C O U N T S=-   |
|=-  -=ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT=- -=|
| Balanced Budgets Personal Freedoms Morality Lower Tax |
|=--  http://www.Keyes2000.com.  --=|
+———+




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 10:59:40AM +, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> Chris Wagner wrote:
> > At 12:35 PM 5/23/00 +, Sergey A. Ribalchenko wrote:
> > >> Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :) But I still prefer
> > >> individualism to socialism.
> > >  ^
> > >m.b. you missed, did you mean onanism?
> >
> > Ok, I don't really know what you mean?
>
> In Russia onanism (pronounced -follow spanish convention for vowels-
> as ananism) means self gratification, masturbation, and is used to
> indicate that the object referred to has little or no value. 

correct up to here.

> Probably having root same as "one, uno", etc.

it's from a biblical story about a guy called Onan who had to marry
his dead brother's widow (because of some jewish inheritance thing, i
think), he didn't want to bonk her because he already had a wife or
something like that. the story's an injunction against wasting one's
"seed" by spilling it on the ground, and it has been generalised into
a prohibition against wanking. i'm not a christian or a jew and that's
about all i can remember of the story.

> So in this case he means that socialism is shit.

no, read it again. the insult was more personal than that. i'll leave it
up to you to figure it out :)

craig

--
craig sanders




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-24 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Chris Wagner wrote:

> At 12:35 PM 5/23/00 +, Sergey A. Ribalchenko wrote:
> >> Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :)  But I still prefer individualism
> >> to socialism.^^
> >m.b. you missed, did you mean onanism?
>
> Ok, I don't really know what you mean?
>
> +---+
> |-=I T ' S  P R I N C I P L E  T H A T  C O U N T S=-   |
> |=-  -=ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT=- -=|
> | Balanced Budgets Personal Freedoms Morality Lower Tax |
> |=--  http://www.Keyes2000.com.  --=|
> +---+
>
> --
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In Russia onanism (pronounced -follow spanish convention for vowels- as ananism)
means self gratification, masturbation, and is used to indicate that the object
referred to has little or no value. Probably having root same as "one, uno",
etc. So in this case he means that socialism is shit.




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-24 Thread Sergey A. Ribalchenko

On Tue, 23 May 2000, Chris Wagner wrote:

> At 12:35 PM 5/23/00 +, Sergey A. Ribalchenko wrote:
> >> Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :)  But I still prefer individualism
> >> to socialism.^^
> >m.b. you missed, did you mean onanism?
> 
> Ok, I don't really know what you mean?

Onanism is yet another ..ism, also known as masturbation :-\
hash..

Best wishes,
Sergey.





Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-23 Thread Chris Wagner
At 12:35 PM 5/23/00 +, Sergey A. Ribalchenko wrote:
>> Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :)  But I still prefer individualism
>> to socialism.^^
>m.b. you missed, did you mean onanism?

Ok, I don't really know what you mean?


+---+
|-=I T ' S  P R I N C I P L E  T H A T  C O U N T S=-   |
|=-  -=ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT=- -=|
| Balanced Budgets Personal Freedoms Morality Lower Tax |
|=--  http://www.Keyes2000.com.  --=|
+———+




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-23 Thread Russell Coker
>>before you bother replying, go do some research on the subject matter.
>>i'll just ignore anything which reeks of typical american ignorance.
>
>Research... I didn't pull this out of thin air you know.  I was watching a
>program about Australia and it was describing some of their "programs" and I
>generally found it to be disturbing.  Before that I kind of thought of
>Australia as a semi-idyllic place.  Unlike here.  This country is utterly
>screwed up and ass-backwards.  And people wonder why the Roman Empire fell...

ROFL.  I did research, I watched a TV show!  Could you indict America any
further?


As for Australia being a semi-idyllic place, no place is.  I have decided not
to live permanently in Australia again because I get the impression that
smart people aren't wanted (unless they are earning lots of money and can be
taxed at a rate of 50% to pay for social security for dole bludgers who are
too lazy to work).

I now live in the Netherlands where smart people are generally liked, the pay
is good, the tax is low, things are generally better here.
I am trying to convince all smart Australians I know to join me here in
Amsterdam.

As for the Roman Empire.  I believe that we are coming to a time of change. 
I think that a number of currently first-world countries will fall in the
next few decades.  Large parts of America will go down, but I think that some
states will evolve into seperate countries which remain in first-world
conditions.



Russell Coker


PS  Perhaps we should take this discussion to a different list like LUV-TALK.




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-23 Thread Roger Abrahamsson
On Tue, 23 May 2000, Sergey A. Ribalchenko wrote:

> 
> On Mon, 22 May 2000, Chris Wagner wrote:
> 
> > >to yanks, socialism is an evil, dirty word - roughly equivalent
> > >to satanism. but we understand why you're like that...you've been
> > >brainwashed with anti-socialist bullshit since you were small children.
> > 
> > Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :)  But I still prefer individualism
>^^
> > to socialism.
> 
> m.b. you missed, did you mean onanism?
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> Sergey.
> 

Naah, lets have technocraty, with all us Unix people in the leading role,
and all M$ people as our servants.. :)

(just couldnt resist)
/Roger




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-23 Thread Sergey A. Ribalchenko

On Mon, 22 May 2000, Chris Wagner wrote:

> >to yanks, socialism is an evil, dirty word - roughly equivalent
> >to satanism. but we understand why you're like that...you've been
> >brainwashed with anti-socialist bullshit since you were small children.
> 
> Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :)  But I still prefer individualism
   ^^
> to socialism.

m.b. you missed, did you mean onanism?


Best wishes,
Sergey.






Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-22 Thread Chris Wagner
At 05:25 PM 5/19/00 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>to yanks, socialism is an evil, dirty word - roughly equivalent
>to satanism. but we understand why you're like that...you've been
>brainwashed with anti-socialist bullshit since you were small children.

Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :)  But I still prefer individualism
to socialism.

>the rest of the world knows it isn't anywhere near so bad. the rest of
>the world knows that democracy and socialism are not opposites, they are
>orthogonal - you can have a socialist democracy (like those in northern

Whoa, orthoganol. :)

>while america pretends otherwise, the rest of the world knows that
>freedom is a lot more than just the freedom to choose between working
>for minimum wage and starving.

Hmm, we have alots of good jobs.  If a company is trying to hire somebody
for min wage, good luck!  Labor is so tight now even hamburger flippers make
6 bucks an hour.

>before you bother replying, go do some research on the subject matter.
>i'll just ignore anything which reeks of typical american ignorance.

Research... I didn't pull this out of thin air you know.  I was watching a
program about Australia and it was describing some of their "programs" and I
generally found it to be disturbing.  Before that I kind of thought of
Australia as a semi-idyllic place.  Unlike here.  This country is utterly
screwed up and ass-backwards.  And people wonder why the Roman Empire fell...

+---+
|-=I T ' S  P R I N C I P L E  T H A T  C O U N T S=-   |
|=-  -=ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT=- -=|
| Balanced Budgets Personal Freedoms Morality Lower Tax |
|=--  http://www.Keyes2000.com.  --=|
+———+




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 08:55:56PM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote:
> At 09:59 AM 5/19/00 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> >i don't know what your laws are like in russia, but here in australia
> >you can get hit with a discrimination lawsuit(*) if you don't support
> 
> Yeah, I've heard some scary things out of Australia lately.  It's like
> they're moving toward socialism/communism and away from true democracy.

look, americans should learn to just shut up about subjects of which
they are completely ignorant - and socialism, along with geography and
history and many other topics, is one of those subjects.

to yanks, socialism is an evil, dirty word - roughly equivalent
to satanism. but we understand why you're like that...you've been
brainwashed with anti-socialist bullshit since you were small children.

the rest of the world knows it isn't anywhere near so bad. the rest of
the world knows that democracy and socialism are not opposites, they are
orthogonal - you can have a socialist democracy (like those in northern
europe) just as you can have a totalitarian police state which pretends
to be a democracy (like the USA). or you can have somewhere in between
like Australia which is, alas, shifting further to the right all the
time.


if i have to read one more american crapping on about the evils of
socialism i'm going to fucking scream. i'm really sick and tired of
you loony libertarian(*) fascists crapping on about shit you don't
understand.  

while america pretends otherwise, the rest of the world knows that
freedom is a lot more than just the freedom to choose between working
for minimum wage and starving.

(*) only in america would a word like "liberty" be so distorted.


before you bother replying, go do some research on the subject matter.
i'll just ignore anything which reeks of typical american ignorance.

craig

--
craig sanders




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-19 Thread Vlad Harchev
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Chris Wagner wrote:

> At 09:59 AM 5/19/00 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> >i don't know what your laws are like in russia, but here in australia
> >you can get hit with a discrimination lawsuit(*) if you don't support
> 
> Yeah, I've heard some scary things out of Australia lately.  It's like
> they're moving toward socialism/communism and away from true democracy.
 
  Not to socialism/communism anyway. The move that happens could be
considered a move to totalitarism, but it isn't IMO (just the government 
regains the control it should have). Anyway, we will see results.

> It's good to support the disabled, but it can get ludicrous real fast.

 As for disabled (blind people at the first place) - I doubt that more than
3000 of them are using computer just because they don't have money
to buy it (population of Russia is 150M). So obviously the lawsuit probably
doesn't exist.

>[...] 

 Best regards,
  -Vlad




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-18 Thread Chris Wagner
At 09:59 AM 5/19/00 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>i don't know what your laws are like in russia, but here in australia
>you can get hit with a discrimination lawsuit(*) if you don't support

Yeah, I've heard some scary things out of Australia lately.  It's like
they're moving toward socialism/communism and away from true democracy.

It's good to support the disabled, but it can get ludicrous real fast.

+---+
|-=I T ' S  P R I N C I P L E  T H A T  C O U N T S=-   |
|=-  -=ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT=- -=|
| Balanced Budgets Personal Freedoms Morality Lower Tax |
|=--  http://www.Keyes2000.com.  --=|
+———+




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 04:11:42PM +0500, Vlad Harchev wrote:
> I need information about user agents used for surfing WWW (especially
> lynx).  Where I can find it? I searched yahoo, and all pages with
> stats that are reachable from that search results page are either old
> or meaningless or are for very specific sites (like universities). Is
> there any integrated stats or stats for some general-purpose sites,
> that are not older than several monthes?

i don't have a direct answer for you, but if you're trying to justify
(to bosses or to a web design team or whoever) why pages should be made
as browser-neutral as possible, and should be viewable on lynx then take
a look at http://www.anybrowser.org/

one big reason why lynx-compatible web pages are important is for
disabled users such as the blind (or almost blind) - for some people,
a text-mode browser and a speech synthesizer is the ONLY way they can
access the web.

i don't know what your laws are like in russia, but here in australia
you can get hit with a discrimination lawsuit(*) if you don't support
use by the disabled - it's pretty much mandated on government web
servers, and large corporate sites (e.g. banks) would be taking a big
risk if their internet service did not cater to the disabled.


(*) the lawsuit isn't guarranteed to win, but there is
anti-discrimination legislation which applies.

craig

--
craig sanders




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-18 Thread Vlad Harchev
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Torsten Krueger wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 18 May 2000, Vlad Harchev wrote:
> 
> >  Hi!
> >  
> >  I need information about user agents used for surfing WWW (especially 
> > lynx).
> >  Where I can find it? I searched yahoo, and all pages with stats that are
> > reachable from that search results page are either old or meaningless or are
> > for very specific sites (like universities). Is there any integrated stats 
> > or
> > stats for some general-purpose sites, that are not older than several 
> > monthes?
> > 
> 
> Take a look at www.browserwatch.com

 Hi,

 Thanks for the URL. I visited this site before, but stats on this site
are on browsers that visit that site, and this is not general-purpose site
since it's visited by technically educated people like magazine article
writers (but anyway the share of lynx will be lower on general-purpose sites).

 
>[...] 

 Thanks and best regards,
  -Vlad




Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-18 Thread Torsten Krueger
Hi,

On Thu, 18 May 2000, Vlad Harchev wrote:

>  Hi!
>  
>  I need information about user agents used for surfing WWW (especially lynx).
>  Where I can find it? I searched yahoo, and all pages with stats that are
> reachable from that search results page are either old or meaningless or are
> for very specific sites (like universities). Is there any integrated stats or
> stats for some general-purpose sites, that are not older than several monthes?
> 

Take a look at www.browserwatch.com

regards
Torsten

>  TIA
> 
>  Best regards,
>   -Vlad
> 
> 
> --  
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

-- 
Media Online Internet Services & Marketing GmbH
Torsten Krueger   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fon: 49-231-5575100fax: 49-231-55751098
Ruhrallee 39   D-44137 Dortmund




where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-18 Thread Vlad Harchev
 Hi!
 
 I need information about user agents used for surfing WWW (especially lynx).
 Where I can find it? I searched yahoo, and all pages with stats that are
reachable from that search results page are either old or meaningless or are
for very specific sites (like universities). Is there any integrated stats or
stats for some general-purpose sites, that are not older than several monthes?

 TIA

 Best regards,
  -Vlad