Bug#284577: kdm does not start when rebooting
Package: kdm Version: 3.2.2-1 I am expericiencing something awkward with a freshly installed PC (using testing). kdm does not start when I reboot the computer. I get the following error in /var/log/syslog: Dec 2 21:18:30 localhost kdm: :0[2235]: IO Error in XOpenDisplay Dec 2 21:18:30 localhost kdm[2170]: Display :0 cannot be opened Dec 2 21:18:30 localhost kdm[2170]: Unable to fire up local display :0; disabling. but once the computer has started if I run: /etc/init.d/kdm start it works fine. Kdm version is 3.2.2-1 with Debian testing. Before filing a bug I would like to know if somebody sees the same behaviour and if there is an explanation/ solution. I suspect this happens with new installations and not with upgraded systems from Woody to Sarge, because I have seen the problem with 2 new hosts and not seen it in 2 upgraded systems. thanks -- Pablo de Vicente, http://www.oan.es, OAN Spain
kdm does not start when rebooting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello I am expericiencing something awkward with a freshly installed PC (using testing). kdm does not start when I reboot the computer. I get the following error in /var/log/syslog: Dec 2 21:18:30 localhost kdm: :0[2235]: IO Error in XOpenDisplay Dec 2 21:18:30 localhost kdm[2170]: Display :0 cannot be opened Dec 2 21:18:30 localhost kdm[2170]: Unable to fire up local display :0; disabling. but once the computer has started if I run: /etc/init.d/kdm start it works fine. Kdm version is 3.2.2-1 with Debian testing. Before filing a bug I would like to know if somebody sees the same behaviour and if there is an explanation/ solution. I suspect this happens with new installations and not with upgraded systems from Woody to Sarge, because I have seen the problem with 2 new hosts and not seen it in 2 upgraded systems. TIA Pablo de Vicente -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBsKvnSItUpHl6kJERAhipAKDGALvNN85+fB1gf/SJabBJRMnvogCgm7cZ 930rDNN3f0Poo799zpYmHb4= =fC36 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
K3b fails in dao mode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello I am running k3b 0.11.9 under woody. I have a CD writer/DVD reader which works fine in TAO mode but fails when using SAO (dao) mode. I am trying to burn a VCD from a videocd.bin and videocd.cue. I get the following error when debuging the output: === System - --- K3b Version: 0.11.9 KDE Version: 3.2.0 QT Version: 3.2.1 cdrecord - --- scsidev: '0,0,6' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 6 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.25 Cdrecord 2.01a16 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' Driveropts: 'burnfree' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'HL-DT-ST' Identifikation : 'RW/DVD GCC-4241N' Revision : 'A101' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM. Current: 0x0009 Profile: 0x0010 Profile: 0x0008 Profile: 0x0009 (current) Profile: 0x000A Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1644048 = 1605 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 1 MB Track 02: data 101 MB Total size: 102 MB (10:08.20) = 45615 sectors Lout start: 102 MB (10:10/15) = 45615 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-) (4) ATIP start of lead in: -11768 (97:25/07) ATIP start of lead out: 359775 (79:59/00) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 64 Manufacturer: MPO Blocks total: 359775 Blocks current: 359775 Blocks remaining: 314160 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 10 in real SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 2 seconds. 1 seconds. 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is OFF. Turning BURN-Free on Performing OPC... Sending CUE sheet... /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A C0 FF FF FF 6A 00 00 1B 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.002s timeout 200s Writing pregap for track 1 at -150 write track pad data: error after 0 bytes BFree: 1605 K BSize: 1605 K Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01:0 of1 MB written. /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 1B 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 200s /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap: A write error occured. /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap: Please properly read the error message above. write track data: error after 0 bytes Writing time: 16.120s Average write speed 121.4x. Fixating... Fixating time:0.004s /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap: fifo had 64 puts and 1 gets. /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%. cdrecord comand: - --- /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap -v gracetime=2 dev=0,0,6 speed=24 -dao driveropts=burnfree cuefile=/home/vicente/video/videocd.cue -eject = I have tested the following command at the command line and I get the same errors: cdrecord dev=0,0 -dao cuefile=videocd.cue -speed=4 I have also tried to burn the CD using cdrdao at the command line and I get an almost identical error which I have looked for googling. I have found no useful clues of what is going on. May be somebody in the list can help? Thanks in advance. cdrdao write --driver generic-mmc --device 0,0,0 -v9 videocd.cue Cdrdao version 1.1.9 - (C) Andreas Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] SCSI interface library - (C) Joerg Schilling Paranoia DAE library - (C) Monty Check http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/drives.html#dt for current driver tables. SCSI: max DMA: 64512 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8' Using libscg transport code version 'schily-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.83' 0,0,0: HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241NRev: A101 Using driver: Generic SCSI-3/MMC - Version 2.0 (options 0x) Burning entire 79 mins disc. Starting write at speed 10... Pausing 10 seconds - hit CTRL-C to abort. Process can be aborted with QUIT signal (usually CTRL-\). Lead-in start: 97:25:07 length: 11618 Lead-out length: 6750 Using pthread POSIX real time scheduling. Swap: 1 Buffer filled Using
Re: KDE and CUPS upgrade problem (was: Re: Problem with printing in konqueror?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Domingo 11 de Mayo de 2003 23:55, Paul Cupis escribió: On Sunday 11 May 2003 22:29, Donald Spoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I DO have the old cupsd.conf file around (I saved it), and also have a moderately clean cupsd.conf file on other computers that could act as a baseline for all my edits. Guess I could do the scut-work and make the comparisons. Time to brew up some coffee and post-pone a few combat naps and get to work grin. I can forward the files to anyone who might want to put a second set of eyes on it. I am NOT a programmer so maybe someone better qualified than I should look also. Can you forward them to me, please? BTW, I use the KDE config wizzard almost exclusively to set up CUPS. I mention this because this introduces another possible variable into the problem. I started off with KDE from Debian Stable and upgraded almost immediately to the version in testing. I have been following that version until about 2 weeks ago, when I upgraded to KDE 3.1.1 from ustable. The CUPS config wizzard has changed along the way, and I really don't know if those changes contributed to what I saw. All I can say for sure is that the current KDE 3.1.1 from unstable works OK for me with CUPS from unstabe starting from the packager's version of cupsd.conf. The version currently in testing seems to me to be broken with respect to setting up a LAN server. Config of a local printer is OK. Personally, I suspect that cupsd.conf generated by the old kprinter configuration tool are the most suspect part of this equation so far. Perhaps with further analysis of the files generated by the various tools (and upstream/package maintainers version) we will be able to solve this. It is obviously biting a number of people, and will almost certainly be a Woody-Sarge upgrade issue. Paul Cupis This may be slightly off topic of this thread but it is certainly related to KPrinting. I am using KDE 3.1.1a in Woody and I still have some problems with KPrinter, even with the latest patch included in KDE 3.1.1a. The printers with CUPS work fine but I always get the following message error: kdecore (KSocket): ERROR: KExtendedSocket::connectionEvent() called but no data available! I have not been able to add printers with CUPS using the KPrinter wizard in some computers in my LAN, because the wizard freezes in the process. In that case I use the web interface and the address: localhost:631 and setup them from there, and later I can use kprinter. In any case when printing I always get the error I have written in the previous paragraph. What is clear is that printing in KDE 3.1.x with CUPS in a LAN is not working perfect, as with previous versions of KDE. Some kind of bug has arisen that either did not exist or did not show up in previous versions. And the latest patch has sort of fixed it, but not totally. Pablo de Vicente -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+v2SQSItUpHl6kJERAoTlAJ9uD9VSqweKHkgNbQpPQkMjvNjQtQCdG6+R hxhyOYn/g1wz1QZLaQSay7k= =iu/+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kdeprint still crashing in sid
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Viernes 28 de Marzo de 2003 09:01, Norbert Preining escribió: Hi! I tried everything I could find in this list: * My /etc/hosts now just contains 127.0.0.1 my.host.name localhost (and I tried several other combinations) * I removed .kde Nothing worked, kprinter always crashes. It connects to the cups server (I see the POST of /printers/ and /classes/ in the cups log file), but the kdecore component KSocket always crashes: kdecore (KSocket): ERROR: KExtendedSocket::connectionEvent() called but no data available! Are there anything else I can try? I do NOT want to reinstall KDE from scratch. It is even worse, reinstalling KDE from scratch does not help. It helps reinstalling Debian from scratch. Can you try to remove remove all cups packages and remove /etc/printcap and/or printcap.cups, reinstall cups and add the printers again?. Pablo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+hBUCSItUpHl6kJERAk1gAKC1jeB+dbDUvKhrQORz9X6Th0KsqgCfQl2i xKgZoflA7yTnUV+gbwqZkmQ= =kO9U -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kprinter in KDE 3.1.1 crashes under sid
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Lunes 24 de Marzo de 2003 18:11, Todd Charron escribió: I believe this is a problem with the /etc/hosts file. I had the same problem. I changed the first line of my hosts file to be 127.0.0.1 host localhost it used to be 127.0.0.1 localhost host for some reason this fixed it. Todd On March 22, 2003 10:40 pm, Oliver Johns wrote: nt (as of 2003.03.22) sid system. This was also an upgrade from 3.1.0. When one types kprinter from a konsole window the kprinter comes up and then instantly crashes with the message In may case this was not appliable. My /etc/hosts was: - - 127.0.0.1 localhost xxx.yyy.zzz.uuu host.domain host # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts # (added automatically by netbase upgrade) ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts - - and hosts with this kind of file do not make kprinter crash. I have also found that NOT all hosts I upgraded from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1 were affected by the kprinter crash. Only some (3) of them, but still do not know what causes it because I have reinstalled Debian in all of them and now they work. What I have found is that the hosts that made Kprinter crash were the ones for which the scan feature did not work when trying to add a new LAN printer, with cups using the KPrinter wizard. May be there was some kind of special configuration in one network related file in these hosts?. Pablo de Vicente. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gFTkSItUpHl6kJERAmtTAKCXjG0s7cjO+Yztgc2H8emOadZhawCfcxkr N0d8f+RDArBWfoi+CF1kkEU= =xP80 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Kprinter crashes with KDE 3.1.1 + woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello again, I have upgraded today and downloaded and installed libdcopc1 and libdcopc-dev from ktown.kde.org but in my case this has not solved the crashes I get from kprinter and the Printers module in KControl. Now I have different behaviours from other machines. I have one PC which I upgraded from KDE 3.0.5 to KDE 3.1.1 and kprinter works fine in this one. This morning I have installed a new Debian PC with woody + KDE 3.1.1 and this one also works fine, kprinter does not crash. So all the problems I see with kprinter crashing come from Debian PCs which I upgraded from KDE 3.1.0 to KDE 3.1.1. I have also tried to remove and purge KDE 3.1.1 from these PCs and reinstall after rebooting the PC but this does not solve the problem. Unfortunately I have a number of PCs in these circumstances and reinstalling Debian in all of them is painful and time consuming. I would like to understand what remains in these systems that spoils kprinting. regards, and thanks Pablo de Vicente. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+evMCSItUpHl6kJERAsmkAJ9dFIEfXKymeX/242g3iIm2eHUttACfY1iB tE78TfUFjJpBWRQaD8lW458= =j+JO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Kprinter crashes with KDE 3.1.1 + woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Viernes, 21 de Marzo de 2003 15:22, Ralf Nolden escribió: On Friday 21 March 2003 12:09, Pablo de Vicente wrote: Hello again, I have upgraded today and downloaded and installed libdcopc1 and libdcopc-dev from ktown.kde.org but in my case this has not solved the crashes I get from kprinter and the Printers module in KControl. Now I have different behaviours from other machines. I have one PC which I upgraded from KDE 3.0.5 to KDE 3.1.1 and kprinter works fine in this one. This morning I have installed a new Debian PC with woody + KDE 3.1.1 and this one also works fine, kprinter does not crash. So all the problems I see with kprinter crashing come from Debian PCs which I upgraded from KDE 3.1.0 to KDE 3.1.1. I have also tried to remove and purge KDE 3.1.1 from these PCs and reinstall after rebooting the PC but this does not solve the problem. Unfortunately I have a number of PCs in these circumstances and reinstalling Debian in all of them is painful and time consuming. I would like to understand what remains in these systems that spoils kprinting. Did you try moving away ~/.kde to someplace else and then re-login and test again ? Ralf Yes. Well indeed what I did was to create a new account and try to use krpinter from there. Kprinter also crashed there. So today I have tried something else. I have completely reinstalled Debian in my laptop and kept untouched the partition where I hold the users accounts (/home) and now it works. That means that it is not something which is in ~./kde. It is something which stays somewhere else, maybe in /etc, and which triggers this bug?. I still have more PCs to make some tests thanks, Pablo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+e386SItUpHl6kJERAulCAJkBIZLi2ByrBqf7Lzecsrp2m4OU6gCg3Svb FdAGNcXPGteYE3rsqtG9hRk= =O5Za -END PGP SIGNATURE-
kprinter crashes with KDE 3.1.1 + woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I have updated several computers to use KDE 3.1.1 with Woody using the debs from ktown.kde.org and kprinter crashes in all of them. I get the following error: kdecore (KSocket): ERROR: KExtendedSocket::connectionEvent() called but no data available! Versions I use: dpkg -l kdeprint ii kdeprint 3.1.1-0woody1 ii libqt3-mt 3.1.2-0woody1 I have also found that if I launch KControl - Peripherals - Printers and select any printer from my LAN KControl crashes. This did not happen with KDE 3.1.0. The reverse traceback is: (no debugging symbols found)...0x40ed3269 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x40ed3269 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40f463c4 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x40d5ec75 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x40564aaa in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #4 0x40e5ebd8 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6 #5 0x40589f7c in local_freeaddrinfo () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #6 0x4058a7fc in KExtendedSocket::~KExtendedSocket () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #7 0x415aae87 in KMCupsManager::completePrinterShort () from /usr/lib/kde3/kdeprint_cups.so #8 0x415aa878 in KMCupsManager::completePrinter () from /usr/lib/kde3/kdeprint_cups.so #9 0x41457643 in KMMainView::slotPrinterSelected () from /usr/lib/libkdeprint_management.so.4 #10 0x4145aa41 in KMMainView::qt_invoke () from /usr/lib/libkdeprint_management.so.4 #11 0x408a3ab9 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #12 0x408a3d9a in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #13 0x4145b619 in KMPrinterView::printerSelected () from /usr/lib/libkdeprint_management.so.4 #14 0x4145b78c in KMPrinterView::qt_emit () from /usr/lib/libkdeprint_management.so.4 #15 0x408a3b53 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #16 0x408a3d9a in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #17 0x4145309f in KMIconView::printerSelected () from /usr/lib/libkdeprint_management.so.4 #18 0x41452d54 in KMIconView::slotSelectionChanged () from /usr/lib/libkdeprint_management.so.4 #19 0x414530f1 in KMIconView::qt_invoke () from /usr/lib/libkdeprint_management.so.4 #20 0x408a3ab9 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #21 0x408a39fe in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #22 0x40b20868 in QIconView::selectionChanged () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #23 0x409f7b38 in QIconViewItem::setSelected () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #24 0x409ff28c in QIconView::contentsMousePressEventEx () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #25 0x409fe7c9 in QIconView::contentsMousePressEvent () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #26 0x403e88b5 in KIconView::contentsMousePressEvent () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4 #27 0x40977f07 in QScrollView::viewportMousePressEvent () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #28 0x4097788b in QScrollView::eventFilter () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #29 0x40a03bce in QIconView::eventFilter () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #30 0x408a1b10 in QObject::activate_filters () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #31 0x408a19f1 in QObject::event () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #32 0x408ce375 in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #33 0x408514da in QApplication::internalNotify () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #34 0x40850f8b in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #35 0x405053aa in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #36 0x408060d4 in QETWidget::translateMouseEvent () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #37 0x4080441b in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #38 0x4081583d in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #39 0x40862dae in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #40 0x40862d0b in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #41 0x40851632 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #42 0x400404b8 in main () from /usr/lib/kcontrol.so #43 0x40e4da5f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 Thanks and regards, Pablo de Vicente -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ebfsSItUpHl6kJERAvLxAKCsPWnCTL6K/AiQRJpGzpzQzfTsNwCfQSit tq0mFqOfKCFmWej9eOWFV8k= =5GZJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: PyKDE packages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Jueves, 13 de Marzo de 2003 22:08, Charles de Miramon escribió: Le Jeudi 13 Mars 2003 20:47, John Goerzen a écrit : Any idea on why PyKDE is not in sid, and when it might be? Is anyone working on it? -- John Jim Bublitz has not finished the PyKDE compatible with KDE 3.1 (http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pykde/index.php). You can find information on the Debian packages of PyQT on http://people.debian.org/~rcardenes/ Cheers, Charles Hello, The binary packages by Ricardo Cardenes for Woody work fine in a pure Woody system but they do not work well with KDE 3.1.x because they need versions for Qt lower than 3.1.2. I mentioned about these problems to Ricardo, and we concluded that the newest Python Qt version would compile with Qt 3.1.2. So he prepared some deb sources from a snapshot of qscintilla, sip and python-qt3 from 03/march/2003. Since the sources are for Sid, they use a new version of debhelper and the control dependences are for Sid, I slightly modified them (with Ricardo's invaluable help) to make them compile in Woody and I have created some binary debs for a Woody system plus KDE 3.1 from Ralf Nolden. I offer the binaries in case somebody is interested but although they work fine for me I cannot offer support with these packages because I have zero experience in packaging. It would be great if Ralf could create binary debs from these deb sources and include them in the list of third part applications at ktown.kde.org. Ralf would you mind creating binaries for qscintilla, sip and python-qt3...?. The apt source is: deb-src http://people.debian.org/~rcardenes main-nolden main As I have already written, some files need to be modified so that they compile in a woody system + KDE 3.1 from Ralf. Pablo de Vicente. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+cj7BSItUpHl6kJERAputAJ9qrJUZCHGSkhJN2bY2sx1epZm/JwCg7iON kKdcZgOUjSTgMLPCtJPqZbY= =HO2+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Upgrade from Woody(stable) to KDE3.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Domingo, 9 de Marzo de 2003 06:30, Ralf Nolden escribió: On Samstag, 8. März 2003 23:05, Paul Cupis wrote: On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 21:44, L. A. Linden Levy wrote: Hi I am looking to do this upgrade...can you tell me what the Ralf's source is. i.e. What should I put in my sources.list or where you are downloading the .deb's. Thanks for the help. Ralf has a good README available on his webspace, with the debs. It is important that you read it if you intend to use his debs. http://devel-home.kde.org/~nolden/kde/README It would be half the contents if we could resolve the conflicts for KDE 3.0.x to 3.1 in arts and kdebase :-) Chris, could you take care of these first while you're building new debs ? It would be extremely helpful and I currently lack the time of taking care of these after spending a full 4 weeks work with madkiss in reorganizing the Qt packages. It would be also good to know if upgrading from 2.2.2 to 3.1 works perfect now so I can fill in that section that that works as advertised without any manual interference to resolve conflicts. Ralf Hello, This morning I have upgraded one machine with woody from KDE 2.2.2 to KDE 3.1 and everything works except that kdevelop conflicts with kde-i18n-es. [ I have retranslated the following message because in my case it appears in spanish ] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdevelop_4%3a2.1.5-1woody3_i386.deb (--unpack): triying to overwrite `/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/kdevelop.mo', that is also in package kde-i18n-es I removed kdevelop and kde-i18n-es and reinstalled later and everything worked fine. regards, Pablo de Vicente. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+avlnSItUpHl6kJERAu5/AKDy5H33Zu7rpM4TpmTjSRM31xnjXgCeJ0t+ qu/S91WwQ5eD2ZdA9J4idWg= =ar5i -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE and java
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Domingo 9 de Marzo de 2003 18:14, Daniel Andor escribió: On Sunday 09 March 2003 4:39 pm, Matteo Vescovi wrote: Hi all, I've got KDE 3.1 installed on Debian woody. I'm used to go to an URL with java scripts and stuff like that, but konqueror refuses to enter the site. After some tests, I discovered that the problem is the java good-looking things that the site requires to load at the beginning. Now, the question is: what should I do?? Which kind of java should I install? If you want to get java (applets) working with konqueror, check out the kde-java HOWTO: http://www.konqueror.org/konq-java.html Basically, a fairly recent version of jre should work. I'm using the IBM Java2 1.4 jre and it works great. This link may work: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux140/ HTH, Daniel You can also use java from Blackdown. Here is a line for /etc/apt/sources.list. There are several mirrors and I use one in France: deb ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/java-linux/debian woody main non-free You can install java typing: apt-get update apt-get install j2re1.3 Once installed find where the binary is and fill in the information in Konqueror, Java section. Path to java: /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/bin/java Pablo de Vicente -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+a3+wSItUpHl6kJERAgWmAJ9z0a16XSDBplC47/V+Ow0GqofImgCgpZvr rHAal512nL+7ZEAJpc7sJaM= =EW/y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Wrong Package file at ktown?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Miércoles 5 de Marzo de 2003 09:50, Ralf Nolden escribió: On Dienstag, 4. März 2003 18:07, Alexander Verbovetsky wrote: The Package file at http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde looks wrong, some qt-packages have versions 3.1.1, some 3.1.2. apt-get dist-upgrade goes mad. I'll have a look today removing the 3.1.1 packages. Ralf I can confirm that if one tries to install apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev one gets the following error message: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt (= 3:3.1.2-0woody1) but 2:3.1.1+cvs.20021220-0woody1 is to be installed Depends: qt3-dev-tools (= 3:3.1.2-0woody1) but it is not going to be installed Therefore it seems that libqt3-mt-dev requires a higher libqt3-mt version than is available at http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde regards and thanks, Pablo de Vicente -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ZfpxSItUpHl6kJERAoGiAKCPxroAhlDMZZSK36HcnGnoOR2gfACgpuhh gQXuZk0LMPDxdllou/LgrLY= =GFwd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Wrong Package file at ktown?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Miércoles 5 de Marzo de 2003 14:24, Pablo de Vicente escribió: El Miércoles 5 de Marzo de 2003 09:50, Ralf Nolden escribió: On Dienstag, 4. März 2003 18:07, Alexander Verbovetsky wrote: The Package file at http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde looks wrong, some qt-packages have versions 3.1.1, some 3.1.2. apt-get dist-upgrade goes mad. I'll have a look today removing the 3.1.1 packages. Ralf I can confirm that if one tries to install apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev one gets the following error message: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt (= 3:3.1.2-0woody1) but 2:3.1.1+cvs.20021220-0woody1 is to be installed Depends: qt3-dev-tools (= 3:3.1.2-0woody1) but it is not going to be installed Therefore it seems that libqt3-mt-dev requires a higher libqt3-mt version than is available at http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde This is not completely exact. http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde contains 2 files: libqt3-mt_3.1.1-4woody5_i386.deb libqt3-mt_3.1.2-0woody1_i386.deb but apt-get update only sees the lower version. And this happens again with some of the files in http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/kde/backports/qt3/ The problem is that Packages.gz and Packages do not hold the latest versions of some of these files. regards, Pablo de Vicente. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ZguOSItUpHl6kJERAgJCAJ9A4M5RhD+S4UPTSRFa6CJWeLnC4gCgngzO 1/CpsVc4s7P6OJ+9CTCazLU= =kXyZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Problems upgrading from KDE 2.2.2 to KDE 3.1.0 (woody)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ralf, I have found that while upgrading from KDE 2.2.2 to KDE 3.1 in a pure woody machine there is a problem when installing package kdeartwork-theme-desktop. It requires that package kdewallpapers be removed first. This is the error you get: (Reading database ... 43069 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kdeartwork-theme-desktop (from .../kdeartwork-theme-desktop_4%3a3.1.0-0woody1_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-theme-desktop_4%3a3.1.0-0woody1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/wallpapers/Ancient_Glyphs.jpg', which is also in package kdewallpapers dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-theme-desktop_4%3a3.1.0-0woody1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) I solved it by typing: dpkg --purge --force-all kdewallpapers and later apt-get -f install regards, Pablo de Vicente -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+UhwSSItUpHl6kJERAu7FAKD2bsqntTXryoZR5rqiXI/kNxNBjQCfQOuC acND9lx00Naor9/v53lLGIE= =+pSI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Where is the KDE Print wizard in KControl?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Mar 28 Ene 2003 23:55, Achim Bohnet escribió: On Tuesday 28 January 2003 22:16, Pablo de Vicente wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am running the latest KDE 3.1 on a woody system. In KControl - Peripherals - - Printers, there is no possibility to launch the KDE Print wizard that or alternatively: kmenu-settings-printer manager click with the RMB in the list of printer at the top. The first item is 'add printer/class'. That that's the printer wizard. Well hidden :( Achim, I have been told that there is another way. In KControl - Peripherals - Printer one has to click with the right mouse button on the window (as you say), and then one can select View Menu Toolbar or/and View Toolbar. This will add a menu on the top of the window which includes several dropdown menus and/or an icon menu (as in KDE 3.0.5) . One of those is Add printer. I think that this menu should be view by default because, as you say, if not it is well hidden from the user. Therefore I have a general question is it possible to activate the Menu Toolbar by default in the Debian package (I guess it should be in the kprinter package)?. thanks, Pablo de Vicente. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+OCHFSItUpHl6kJERApaOAKC6Jb/+V/txvqpPb+swnehHHhMBnQCgsNKD /s5qO1pDYThaJGGSC6WDSS0= =qOvh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Where is the KDE Print wizard in KControl?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Mar 28 Ene 2003 23:55, Achim Bohnet escribió: On Tuesday 28 January 2003 22:16, Pablo de Vicente wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am running the latest KDE 3.1 on a woody system. In KControl - Peripherals - - Printers, there is no possibility to launch the KDE Print wizard that or alternatively: kmenu-settings-printer manager click with the RMB in the list of printer at the top. The first item is 'add printer/class'. That that's the printer wizard. Well hidden :( allows one to add new printers. That was present in KDE 3.0.5. The only way to launch the wizard is to start kprinter from ALT-F2 or from a konsole and once in the main kprinter window click on the magic wand button. Is this the default behaviour or do I have a local problem?. If this is the default behaviour I think it is a pity not to be able to launch the wizard from KControl. Once I have started the KDE Print wizard, I choose to add an IPP printer and in the second screen I click on button Scan to scan the LAN for IPP printers and then nothing happens. In older versions (KDE 3.0.5) there was a progress bar while the LAN was scanned and when the bar was complete a list of available printers was displayed. Can somebody confirm this bug?. No. I'm using woody + ktown kde. Progressbar is working and all IPP printers are found. Did you configure the subnet via 'settings...'. It had 127.0.0 here. With this setting nothing happens here too for obvious reasons ;) I already configured the subnet properly (indeed I am using the same setup that I was using for KDE 3.05) and it does not work. thanks and regards, Pablo. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+OCH4SItUpHl6kJERAommAKCEnJ8tRxoH2u8p9XqG7itlC0ZrGQCg2O+g B/BCJjKDwtS+OekUwua/Q8Y= =VsSZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Printer module missing in KControl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am using woody + newest KDE 3.1 packages from Ralf and I cannot use kprinter. Indeed if I run kprinter from the konsole I get a freezed window which shows nothing. KControl does not show me the Printer Manager module. It is as if it were missing and did not existe. I usually use CUPS for printing, but I have lost all printing capabilities from KDE 3.1. Can somebody confirm this behaviour please. thanks Pablo de Vicente -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+HENeSItUpHl6kJERAoDgAKD9TRq3SJLXeKSgJ8RoPxkrqiFQUwCg+x01 dNUwIVWqzCQlKqUHRuGeP8g= =JlwB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: java other things
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Sábado 4 de Enero de 2003 02:05, Vladimir Nicola Chersi escribió: Thanks you all for all the support you gave me. I noticed that I installed the j2re1.3 instead of j2re1.4; but the strange thing ist that: when I had SuSE 6.4 evaluation installed I saw more java applets than now; I think that the java version was 1.2. the browser was netscape. now neither with mozilla nor with konqueror I can see java applets as good as i saw them with SuSE... but that's not important: I decided that i'll live without java untll next debian stable distribution ( I have an 56k modem, and i cannot upgrade too often). Have you installed Mozilla and Netscape from Debian? You can always open them from inside Konqueror once you have arrived at your page, clicking on Location and they should appear in the drop-down menu. Pablo de Vicente -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FohlSItUpHl6kJERAvlxAKDHK1mLoLTDi0ooIzuPY2fOUWW9VgCeKMkk cfVPkc+jfMxPorI29dZDl5c= =N9gJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
How to build a deb package with KDE3.1 and woody?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I would like to build kde-i18n-es as a deb package. Now I am using KDE 3.1 (packages provided by Ralf Nolden in Dec 31st not the very latest ones) and an almost pure woody system. I only have the CVS kde-i18n root directory and kde-i18n/es, kde-i18n/admin and kde-i18n/debian subdirectories. First I try to compile the es directory to check if all is OK. So I command: echo es inst-apps and make -f Makefile.cvs and ./configure and make - - First problem I have is that KDE 3.1 apparently needs autoconf 1.6 which is in sid. I overcome this problem by using the admin directory from KDE 3.0.x series. With this workaround I can compile the whole es subdirectory. Then I clean the whole kde-i18n and begin again with a clean CVS one. If I try to generate a deb package by issuing dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -us the process removes F inst-apps F temp.xml F update_xml.log D admin F debian/debiandirs D es/docs/quanta and the process breaks. Can somebody tell me a recipe to create kde-i18n-es.deb from the CVS for woody, only having the root kde-i18n directory and directories kde-i18n/admin, kde-i18n/es and kde-i18n/debian?. Thanks, Pablo de Vicente KDE spanish translation team. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FZ4GSItUpHl6kJERAuUfAKCSqPLTARPqlaXdiymE1+PnMvDyIQCdEkoI gp99xSYmpnec4XI3/dvbWBk= =GsGV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.0.5a Packages for Woody uploaded
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Lun 23 Dic 2002 22:20, Ralf Nolden escribió: On Montag, 23. Dezember 2002 20:07, Pablo de Vicente wrote: Ralf, First of all thanks for you effort. Now the bad news. I have upgraded from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5a and in the change I have recovered an old bug, the message window with tool tips that usualy appears when starting applications spans the whole screen instead of having a reasonable size. This problem was solved for some 3.0.x release but has reappeared again and I am almost sure it does not depend on libqt-3.0.5-4 because I have only upgraded the KDE packages and not the qt library. Fixed this afternoon, please update. It's a known bug in kdelibs with qt 3.0.3 where I used a patch for the 3.0.4 packages to work around that and forgot to apply that yesterday and remembered it tonight :-) Ralf regards, Pablo de Vicente. Ralf, I have upgraded again and now it works. Many thanks and merry Christmas Pablo de Vicente -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+CIUWSItUpHl6kJERAhr6AKDhhJZ2Gh6Xw7mEiIGy+9wxs7uLLACg96OL axDHU0SvinKuIJz+p1l3xbs= =cj0C -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.0.5a Packages for Woody uploaded
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Dom 22 Dic 2002 23:22, Ralf Nolden escribió: Hi there, I just finished uploading packages for KDE 3.0.5a to the kde masterserver. After syncing, you should be able to use them over the usual apt-get line: deb http://download. [your countrycode here] .kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody/ ./ This works for sid (replace woody with sid in the above line) again, too after updating the symlink to the according 3.0.4 packages. Packages for sid couldn't be built due to the libfontconfig problem (qt-configure check failed in the packages), but I guess most people can live with that until christmas :-) At least people using KDE 3 on woody can feel secure again :-) Merry Christmas, Ralf Ralf, First of all thanks for you effort. Now the bad news. I have upgraded from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5a and in the change I have recovered an old bug, the message window with tool tips that usualy appears when starting applications spans the whole screen instead of having a reasonable size. This problem was solved for some 3.0.x release but has reappeared again and I am almost sure it does not depend on libqt-3.0.5-4 because I have only upgraded the KDE packages and not the qt library. regards, Pablo de Vicente. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+B18NSItUpHl6kJERAjLIAJ4koqMJZoOzBvXms+YFJPBJuyLRpwCfWfVX cFGAC/WggEQ1TmHW3AOy7Gc= =502v -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian -links
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Mi 16 Oct 2002 17:57, Przemyslaw Gawronski escribi: deb ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/java-linux/debian/dists/woody/non-free/binary-i386 ./ # J2SDK 1.3 this packages need j2se-common ( 1) which is not avaiable on people.debian.org/~gibreel/debian/pool/main/j/j2se-common/ Where can I fand it? Are j2sdk packeges broken? - yorii You have already been answered twice but if you want to keep that mirror modify it like this: ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/java-linux/debian/dists/woody/non-free/binary-i386 woody main non-free apt-get update apt-get install j2re1.3 (this will install j2se-common) and remember to modifiy the PATH to java in Konqueror, because now it is in a different place. It will be in /usr/lib/j2se You can check by dpkg -S java Pablo de vicente -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9r5zvSItUpHl6kJERAtyJAKC0HkYCPJuNm9f8pcikvmbEnBIH/gCg1vkl p/wh952jtrDUVWektFES1uw= =j/wc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Different network environments for laptops
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Does anybody know of a KDE application that configures different network environments for a laptop?. I miss a KDE Control Center module to setup different network environments and to show the present network configuration. I know of recent project called TuX-Mobile (http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/~esoriano/) developed with GTK+. Is there something similar for KDE? Pablo de Vicente. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9rsoASItUpHl6kJERAg5eAKCkzCZ4eX7FAe4+QRs7hFpn4jFjTQCgu1+K F2q0eF+vAS1e4ICu56C0S4o= =Gyfr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
KMail, pgp5 and gpg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello, I have run into some trouble with KMail, gpg and pgp5i. I will expose the case: I usually use pgp5i and have exported my public key to a keyserver. Before doing that I checked that using PGP5i in different machines and with different identities KMail worked fine, detecting the validity of signatures. The problem arises when people who only use GnuPG import my public key from the keyserver. All emails from my address appear in Red in their Mail folders and with a Warning: The signature is bad message. These people use, under KMail - Settings - Security - OpenPGP option Select encryption tool to use: GnuPG. If the previous option is set to: Autodetect, then the email will appear in yellow with a The validity of the signature can't be verified message. However if one only uses KMail with PGP5 (for which one imports my public key from the keyserver) the emails appear in green and with a The signature is valid and the key is fully trusted message. Is there some kind of incompatibilty between GnuPG and PGP5i?. Is this a KMail problem which, when using GnuPG does not recognize the validity of messages signed with PGP5i?. On the other hand Kmail works fine the other way round, that is messages signed with GnuPG are correctly verified. Any ideas? Pablo de Vicente. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: BS2TIf27uBlIHFXSqOHkx4HLS4m+jkER iQA/AwUBPaKqQkiLVKR5epCREQKbsgCeIze34+vRYoXdBZtHRTYtD1wVNS4AnRri Qw/P43ZbiiXYQ62ZcXhoAyLW =p6dB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KMail, pgp5 and gpg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- El Martes 8 de Octubre de 2002 12:02, David Pashley escribió: On Tuesday 08 October 2002 10:49 am, Pablo de Vicente wrote: Hello, I have run into some trouble with KMail, gpg and pgp5i. I will expose the case: I usually use pgp5i and have exported my public key to a keyserver. Before doing that I checked that using PGP5i in different machines and with different identities KMail worked fine, detecting the validity of signatures. The problem arises when people who only use GnuPG import my public key from the keyserver. All emails from my address appear in Red in their Mail folders and with a Warning: The signature is bad message. These people use, under KMail - Settings - Security - OpenPGP option Select encryption tool to use: GnuPG. I can confirm that this does happen in KDE 3.1beta2. If the previous option is set to: Autodetect, then the email will appear in yellow with a The validity of the signature can't be verified message. However if one only uses KMail with PGP5 (for which one imports my public key from the keyserver) the emails appear in green and with a The signature is valid and the key is fully trusted message. Is there some kind of incompatibilty between GnuPG and PGP5i?. Is this a KMail problem which, when using GnuPG does not recognize the validity of messages signed with PGP5i?. On the other hand Kmail works fine the other way round, that is messages signed with GnuPG are correctly verified. Any ideas? Have you emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are the KMail developers. they should be able to help you more. No, I have not mailed them, but I am going to CC them this message. but I have found looking for it at Google that there IS a compatibility problem: PGP 5.0i isn't able to clearsign a message if this message contains 8-bit characters (like german umlauts). Therefore the developers of KMail programmed a work around. The message is first signed with a detached signature and then a clearsigned message is composed as follows: ... If a mail (or something else) you want to sign contains 8-bit characters PGP 5.0i always generates a type 0x00 signature (a signature of a binary document). Therefore GnuPG can't handle it correctly (and it doesn't have to) Conclusion: - This is off-topic, but how can I migrate my keys to GnuPG? - Do I need to revoke my keys in the public keyserver and create new ones?. thanks in advance, Pablo de Vicente. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: O/nROO2dr1O4AtY5KFE9Uc5HLEeTk4PA iQA/AwUBPaKxW0iLVKR5epCREQIGdgCeM7azjj1oFLP4u+uKPF35GIdl4IwAoKyR WJ/wmInc0sqm+dNTf5igbHru =QqhG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KMail, pgp5 and gpg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Off-topic but for your interest to finish this thread: ... Conclusion: - This is off-topic, but how can I migrate my keys to GnuPG? - Do I need to revoke my keys in the public keyserver and create new ones?. It is not necessary to revoke the keys because it is possible to migrate from PGP5i to GnuPG using the same keys from the PGP5i keyring. If somebody is interested I can send how I have done it. thanks, Pablo de Vicente -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9osPfSItUpHl6kJERApVzAKCxzkHXCKuI/GW7ea38gBzw4h7mGgCdHKkm rhqtdMQlPSXPYLXDVT5XYPE= =9lfI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Java Sun J2SE 1.4.1 and kde3.1 beta 1
El Lun 23 Sep 2002 17:45, Jerry Dimitriou escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am running kde 2.2 here with Woody's mozilla and: java -version java version 1.3.1 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS, mixed mode) The only browser that will run this is netscape 4.77. Konq ran once but did not display the java graphical start button. Mozilla didn't run it at all. shrug -- OK. Another example. The applets at http://www.math.uh.edu/~minru/web/apps4.html will all load with mozilla, but none will load with konqueror 3.1 beta1, both using java 1.4.1 Hello I can see all the appets in that page and execute them with Konqueror. I am running KDE 3.0.3 under Debian Woody + a bit of unstable and j2re1.3 My path to java in Konqueror Settings is /usr/lib/j2re1.3/bin/java My Line for the j2re1.3 package in sources.list is: deb ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/java-linux/debian woody non-free regards, Pablo de Vicente KDE-es spanish translation team.
Re: Java Sun J2SE 1.4.1 and kde3.1 beta 1
El Lun 23 Sep 2002 17:03, Jerry Dimitriou escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone else had any problems using java 1.4.1 of Sun and the KJAS of KDE3.1 Beta 1? In cases where many Java applets are in one Webpage, konqeror will not load the applet. This occurs also when there is one applet which uses a lot of graphics For example the Java applet of this page (http://math.bu.edu/DYSYS/applets/fractalina.html) won't load. There are some applets though, that konqueror excecutes correctly, for example, the SCORE BAR on the top of the www.sport.gr page. Can anyone duplicate this, or this is just my configuration which has the problem ? Hello, I can see this with Konqueror 3.0.3 but with problems. Only a tiny fraction of the start button appears. The size of the whole window is the same as with Netscape, but since the numbers and the selection boxes use a huge font there is almost no place for the start button and very little space for the title of the first column of the table (pt:), p is almost not seen. The applet works. I guess this is a bug for the Java Blackdown team Pablo de Vicente KDE-es translation team.
Tips on launching KDE applications
Hello I have noticed that since I upgraded to KDE 3.0.3, all tips, which appear when one launches an application, generate an extremely large window which goes from one border of the screen to the other withouth wrapping the text. At first I thought it was a translation problem, but it also happens in english and with all applications. Anybody has experienced this same problem? Is this a Debian ony problem? Pablo de Vicente KDE-es translation team.
Re: PROBLEMS INSTALLING KDE3 ON WOODY
El Martes 17 de Septiembre de 2002 09:39, Javier Ballesteros escribió: Hi all! I have followed the guidelines for installing KDE3 on woody, I need KDE3 with stable mirrors from woody, so first I have done apt-get remove --purge kde*, then I have added th recommended mirror for the KDE3 packages: http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody . Then apt-get update and apt-get install kdebase and so on, al seems correct, but when I try to install kdevelop, or wichever package the following error arises: javivi:~# apt-get install kdevelop Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: ~ kdevelop: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to be installed ~Depends: kdebase-libs but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages javivi:~# Read from remote host 10.1.74.172: Connection reset by peer Connection to 10.1.74.172 closed. Any idea to solve the proble would be nice, we are trying to get an stable system running Woody and KDE3, well, at least as stable as possible. Thank you in advance! Add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody ./ run: apt-get update apt-get install -t unstable kdevelop regards, Pablo de Vicente
Re: PROBLEMS INSTALLING KDE3 ON WOODY
El Martes 17 de Septiembre de 2002 10:50, Pablo de Vicente escribió: El Martes 17 de Septiembre de 2002 09:39, Javier Ballesteros escribió: Hi all! I have followed the guidelines for installing KDE3 on woody, I need KDE3 with stable mirrors from woody, so first I have done apt-get remove --purge kde*, then I have added th recommended mirror for the KDE3 packages: http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody . Then apt-get update and apt-get install kdebase and so on, al seems correct, but when I try to install kdevelop, or wichever package the following error arises: javivi:~# apt-get install kdevelop Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: ~ kdevelop: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to be installed ~Depends: kdebase-libs but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages javivi:~# Read from remote host 10.1.74.172: Connection reset by peer Connection to 10.1.74.172 closed. Any idea to solve the proble would be nice, we are trying to get an stable system running Woody and KDE3, well, at least as stable as possible. Thank you in advance! Add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody ./ Sorry, this was a stupid error, the line is: deb http://people.debian.org/~njordan kde3.0/ Pablo de Vicente
A suggestion: i18n for KOffice
Hello, I would like to propose a change to the KOffice packagers to include an independent i18n package for KOffice. At the moment translations for the different languages are provided in kde-i18n-xx packages, according to the main KDE releases. However KDE releases are not in sync with KOffice releases, because they are independent. This leads to having the latest KOffice packages for the latest stable branch but not its corresponding updated translations. I can show this with an example; now Ben Burton has released KOffice 1.2, but the translations for this version are in the HEAD branch and are tagged as KOFFICE_1_2_RELEASE. However the KOffice 1.2 packages are built for KDE 3.0.3, which I think is __totally__ correct. On the other hand the translations applied to KOffice come from the KDE_3_0_BRANCH, so that some applications appear partially translated and others not translated at all, while the translations are completed in the CVS. I propose a solution for this, but I am sorry because it means more work for the KOffice packager (Ben Burton in this case), it would be to release koffice-i18n-xx packages, which would be created extracting from the CVS all messages and documents tagged as KOFFICE_X_Y_RELEASE. And to prevent that the files with messages and documentation are not overwritten by the kde-i18n-xx packages, the koffice part of this package should be removed from the kde-i18n-xx packages. regards, and many thanks to all Debian packagers for KDE for their work. Pablo de Vicente KDE-es translation team.
KDevelop and documentation for KDE and QT, How?
Hello, I am running KDevelop 2.1.3, and I miss the KDE library documentation at the left navigation panel. In former versions, I could unfold a tree with the list of classes for QT and KDE. Now I can only browse the QT documentation form the centralpanel. I have also installed htdig, and doxygen. For the first one I have followed the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kdevelop/README-htdig.Debian and the search engine works fine. I have read in this list that doxygen is necessary for the documentation, but I am unsuccesfull browsing the documentatino form KDevelop. I even select the path where the documentation for KDE is, but KDevelop does not recongnize the directory as valid. Thanks in advance Pablo de Vicente.
Re: X connection
El Jueves 11 de Julio de 2002 13:11, José Manuel Pérez escribió: Hi all. I'm trying to connect to a X host and display the application in my laptop. I'm running sid with X 4.2 and KDE 3.0.2. I do the following: - xhost +remote - ssh to remote - run program that sets DISPLAY as my laptop:0.0 But this doesn't work, and I've not found where to configure my laptop in order to allow remote to make X connection. Anybody can help me? Thanks in advance, Change in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7 by :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X -dpi 100 and restart the X server Pablo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there any mirror with 3.0.2 packages
Hello, kde3.geniussystems.net seems to be not available for HTTP requests, however it is alive for pings... Is there a mirror from which I can download the 3.0.2 packages?. The two mirrors I know about only have 3.0.1 packages, which I already use. thanks, Pablo de Vicente -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?
El Mar 26 Feb 2002 19:57, Jens Benecke escribió: On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 02:21:43PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote: You might have missed while reading the message below that I actually *do* *need* KDE3. If Daniel can provide it I'd be *very* happy since it'd save me a lot of work/keeping up to date/trying to compile etc. As allways coordination is a good thing, which is happening here in the person of DS. And as allways many eyes do help finding bugs, If it helps, I have a KDE beta1 compile (though tar.gz, installs in /opt/kde3) at ftp://134.28.62.2. And I'd love to compile a current version as soon as somebody tells me why arts, kdelibs, etc etc do not compile because libltdl is missing as directory but still exists in Makefiles, and this missing library somehow prevents me from compiling everything. I have installed libltdl-dev from debian, this doesn't change anything. Jens, I also have a beta1 self compiled version of KDE 3 and it is bad news to hear that from you. I have not tried to compile the current version because I am waiting for the final release. For my purposes now (translation to spanish and checking that documentation compiles and works in KDE3 ) beta1 is enough. I have looking at the available libltdl-dev packages and seen that there are two: libltdl3-dev libltdl0-dev Have you tried both of them or just one?. I do not have the slightest idea of the difference between these two. Pablo de Vicente
Compiling KDE 3.0 under Debian
I am trying to compile KE 3.0 in a Debian (woody+sid ) box in a local directory and I have problems when compiling kdelibs. I have followed the instructions in http://women.kde.org/projects/coding/kde2+3.html . qt-copy and kdesupport compile fine, but kdelibs does not. I get the following error : make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/local/kde3/kde-cvs/kdelibs/dcop/dcopidl2cpp' c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../dcop -I../../libltdl -I../../kdecore -I../../kdeui -I../../kio -I../../kio/kio -I../../kio/kfile -I/usr/local/qt-copy/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/kde3/include -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -ftemplate-depth-99 -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_COMPAT -c main.cpp In file included from main.cpp:32: main.h:29: type specifier omitted for parameter main.h:29: parse error before `)' main.h:34: type specifier omitted for parameter main.h:34: parse error before `,' main.h:39: type specifier omitted for parameter main.h:39: parse error before `,' main.cpp: In function `int main(int, char **)': main.cpp:95: `QDomDocument' undeclared (first use this function) main.cpp:95: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once main.cpp:95: for each function it appears in.) main.cpp:95: parse error before `;' main.cpp:96: `doc' undeclared (first use this function) main.cpp:98: `QDomElement' undeclared (first use this function) main.cpp:98: parse error before `=' and some more messages. QDomDocument and QDomElement seem to be defined in qdom.h, so I do not understand why they are not recognized in main.cpp file. Has somebody installed KDE 3.0 in a Debian box locally and suceeded?. Pablo de Vicente
Re: Work-needing packages report for Jan 4, 2002
El Vie 04 Ene 2002 21:26, Ivan E. Moore II escribió: Because some arrogant assholes (called debian maintaners officially) have flamed Ivan on debian-devel for his very hard volunteer work. The most interesting is that they think they did it on behalf of Debian KDE Users. I can only add I fully understand Ivan's decision after reading the whole thread about libpng package on debian-devel. I'd just like to say that the reason for my doing this has little to do with any dd's or the arguments that went on on the debian-devel mailing list. While that did have some part in my decision I did not let that make my decision as that would just be a stupid thing to do (IMO). Things like that are part of the job which is being a Debian Developer. I however just don't have the time to do my job properly anymore. This has been a growing trend for some time as those of you who have been following since the beginning. Originally...crap almost 3 years ago...I was maintaining over 100 KDE specific packages + QT on the side. And that was for multiple arch's. One could say that I definatly had alot of free time back then. Over the past few years I have found less and less free time. My job and personal life has taken it's tole and of late I've had to make decisions that would make sure that I could keep my job and be happy doing it as well as be happy in my personal life. Spending all my weekend and evenings doing Debian stuff just doesn't cut it and my stress level has gone through the roof. I find myself getting angry easier and easier as the argument on d-devel shows. It also doesn't help that I care about the work I do and when I always see comments about how I don't fix problems fast enough, am not doing a good job at all, am always an asshole, etc... it just grates on my nerves. It doesn't matter how much praise one get's. I definatly never deserved as much as I received as I constantly see other people who do far more than I have ever done. So with all of that said after my blood pressure went through the roof the other day I decided it was time that I just walk away. I'm not sure if I'll volunteer for Debian as a Developer again. I'll probably still help out from time to time in other capacities and may do some non-official stuff on the side. But at this time I plan on removing (or rather already have) myself from all mailing lists and removing all -dev crap off my machine so I won't even be tempted. and finally to help qwell some disputes I've read and some other crap I've read: The PNG fiasco. It could partially and quickly be fixed by reverting everything back to using libpng2 specifically. However by the time we found the problem several large chunks of affected packages were aready built with libpng3 and uploaded (qt/kdebase/kdelibs/kdemult/+others) and so several felt it would be just better to move forward and just migrate to libpng3. this brings up 1 other problem that was pointed out just recently. Any packages built against libqt2 that is in stable may break if they also link to libpng2. While the breakage is usually minor (depending on the app) it is still a problem. there is 2 solutions to this problem...one is to revert back to libpng2 and basically stick with libpng2 and just migrate to libpng3 for qt3/kde3. The other solution is to see if something can be done to libpng3 for backwards compatability. The maintainer of libpng3 is out until something like the 10th so we won't know until sometime after then if this is possible unless someone else jumps in and does the footwork. The imlib bit will only be an issue is a new imlib is uploaded linked to the new libpng3. AFAIK all of the QT/KDE packages have been adopted. Don't worry about KDE not being in woody. Others have taken the packages and will do an excellent job. Ivan hello Ivan Your attitude honours you and I think you deserve our gratitude. Serious work on free software (like yours) in most of the cases is done because of its own pleasure but one has to pay for it. And one pays with his job, his family, his friends and at the end his health. Many times it does not pay off. I want to thank you for providing us the possibilty to use KDE without abandoning Debian and for providing so many packages of the best quality for such a long period of time. I wish you the best, Pablo de Vicente.
Re: kmail and korn don't work for me (from unstable)
El Sáb 22 Dic 2001 18:34, Bjoern Krombholz escribió: On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 04:15:25PM +0100, Pablo de Vicente wrote: El Sáb 22 Dic 2001 09:47, Wolfgang Ratzka escribió: $ kmail *** KMail got signal 4 (Crashing) So the crash is caused bye SIGILL - means Illegal Instruction, CPU throws these signals in case it doesn't know an OP-Code. F.e. MMX-Code would give SIGILL on 486. My system is an AMD K6/450 and none of the kdenetwork applications work. KMail crashes the same way you see. I purged and reinstalled KDE from scratch but that did not helped. I am also using sid for KDE. Reinstalling the same binaries won't help. It doesn't look like but seems that kdenetwork is compiled with some special optimization flags not supported on AMD K6 CPUs. My last option was to grab the kdenetwork-2.2.2.tar.bz2 file from one of the KDE ftp mirrors and compile it myself. It compiled properly. Then I copied from kmail/.libs/kmail to /usr/bin/kmail and now I have a working kmail. I admit this is a dirty solution but it is the only one I have for the moment. Try apt-get -b source kmail. To build the binary deb yourself from the source packages. There is something wrong with the Debian kdenetwork packages and I have no hint of what it is. I also have a laptop with a Pentium III and the Debian packages work fine. May be the problem is related to the type of CPU?. Probably. Maybe the deb is ppro optimized what wouldn't work on K6 or something similiar. I have just read another thread in this same list stating that the problem may arise from compilation flags which do not apply to AMD K6 CPUs. There are new debs for all kdenetwork packages. I have installed kmail-2.2.2-8 and kppp-2.2.2-8 on my AMD K6 and now they work fine. (well the latter has a problem that I will mention in a separate thread because I think is not related to the topic discussed here). Thanks to Daniel Stone (the maintainer for these packages) for fixing this problem. Pablo de Vicente.
Re: PNG trouble? (Kmail problem)
El Jue 13 Dic 2001 22:17, Jaakko H Kyro escribió: Hi! I'm running unstable. After last update today kmail and knode ceased working, crash with SIGILL before anything shows. From the backtrace I could see that it originated from libpng, which is the newest version. Konqueror works fine, though. Anyone else experiencing this? Yes I have the same problem. I installed a new machine this weekend (first testing and then updated to sid only for KDE packages) and found this same problem. However I have another machine updated last wednesday with the same versions of kmail (2.2.2-5) and libpng2 (1.0.12-2) and it does not have that problem. Therefore I am not sure libpng2 is the problem. I find the same crash for kppp, but I have no problems with the latest versions of konqueror or konsole. It seems the problems has some relation with the kdenetwork package. I have tried kmail in different accounts (new fresh ones and old ones) and the failure is for all of them. I get the following error: *** KMail got signal 4 (Crashing) KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = kmail path = unknown pid = 317 ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! The backtrace mentions libc6, libpng2, libqt, and several other packages, Pablo de Vicente.
Re: Building programs under Kde 2.2.2
El Mar 04 Dic 2001 13:08, Laurent Rathle escribió: Le Lundi 3 Décembre 2001 22:35, Pablo de Vicente a écrit : I wonder if it has to do with the fact that I have kdelibs-dev and kdelibs3 version 2.2.2-4 while I still have kdelibs3-crypto 2.2.1-11 (there is no 2.2.2 version available). This probably has to do with what Ivan said about building crypto support inside kdelibs3 when libssl goes into main. I've been said to install kdebase-crypto and everyhing went fine. Yes I also updated kdebase-crypto and kdelibs3-crypto (my mirror had not updated non-us.debian.org and I was not seeing the new versions) and all works now. thanks, Pablo de Vicente.
Re: Building programs under Kde 2.2.2
El Lun 03 Dic 2001 12:54, Laurent Rathle escribió: Hello, Very often, I've got this error message when I try to build some program under Kde 2.2.2. Does anyone have an idea ? /usr/lib/libkio.so: undefined reference to `KSSLCertificateHome::hasCertificateByName(QString)' /usr/lib/libkio.so: undefined reference to `KSSL::setProxy(bool, QString)' Thank you, I also have the same problem... I wonder if it has to do with the fact that I have kdelibs-dev and kdelibs3 version 2.2.2-4 while I still have kdelibs3-crypto 2.2.1-11 (there is no 2.2.2 version available). This probably has to do with what Ivan said about building crypto support inside kdelibs3 when libssl goes into main. Pablo de Vicente.
Why are there no task packages for KDE?
I already posted something like this several days ago. Why are there no task-kde packages in KDE 2.2.1?. I think that KDE would increase its visibility in Debian if there are task packages since they will automatically appear (I guess) in tasksel and newbies will be presented a choice for the desktop Now tasksel for Woody shows 4 entries for Gnome packages and 3 for Helix Gnome packages and none for KDE. Pablo de Vicente
new kde-i18n-es: strange mixture of english + spanish
Ivan: I have upgraded my system and I am using package: kde-i18n-es4%3a2.2.1.0-all.deb Unfortunately I now get a strange mixture of english + spanish. For example the Khelpcenter is in english, but if you select any doc from within it you will get in spanish. The splash window of KHelpCenter also lacks its images. Another example is the konqueror splash screen which contains sentences in english and spanish, or what is worse now with anti-aliasing and konqueror I cannot see spanish pages with accents. Indeed I have noticed that some updates I made in the spanish translations for KDE 2.2.2 are already in this package (which is tagged as 2.2.1). Pablo de Vicente KDE spanish translation team
Re: new kde-i18n-es: strange mixture of english + spanish
El Mié 14 Nov 2001 14:40, escribiste: Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2001 13:57 schrieb Pablo de Vicente: Ivan: I have upgraded my system and I am using package: kde-i18n-es4%3a2.2.1.0-all.deb Unfortunately I now get a strange mixture of english + spanish. For Hello, I experienced the same with my German Woody-Box. All KDE-files I installed were 2.1.2 except the kde-i18n-de was 2.2.1. I found the correct kde-i18n-de 2.1.1 on an unofficial CD for Potato (the german one can also be found in the www) and replaced it. After that everything works fine in german. You should have a look for the spanish kde-i18n-es 2.1.2 and try to install it, I think it is worth to try. Note that you should set it to HOLD in dselect, otherwise it will automatically replaced with the newer 2.2.1 at the next update. Thomas No, but in my case I am using KDE 2.2.1 (woody/sid) and I think that kde-i18n-es altought it says it is from KDE 2.2.1, it really comes from the CVS and the KDE 2.2.2 branch. This small discrepancy might be the cause of the problem. In fact I have looked at the khelpcenter.mo file installed by the kde-i18n-es package, with khexedit and the strings are translated. Perhaps the application itself (khelpcenter?) and the translation do not match exactly. Pablo de Vicente
Re: new kde-i18n-es: strange mixture of english + spanish
El Mié 14 Nov 2001 13:57, Pablo de Vicente escribió: Ivan: english and spanish, or what is worse now with anti-aliasing and konqueror I cannot see spanish pages with accents. Sorry this last sentence is not correct. Only some pages in spanish are not properly seen and this is not due to kde-i18n-es but to the fonts I have and Anti-Aliasing. The rest of the message is correct. Pablo de Vicente
Private Color map
Does KDE 2.2.1 with XFree86 4.1 support private color maps within a konsole window?. I need to use some applications which only use 8bit color maps and if you run them with a higher depth color map they do not work properly. Being part of the spanish KDE translation team I have translated the following string from kdelibs.po: Causes the application to install a private color\n But I do not know where I can play with this. Pablo de Vicente KDE spanish translation team
Re: Euro support for Kde 2
El Mié 24 Oct 2001 11:15, javi escribió: Hi all!! We have to say that we don't get the euro under KDE. We have tested all the possibles configurations, and we have read all the documents, included http://koffice.kde.org/kword/euro.phtml. We have the euro correctly supported under terminal, we have installed all fonts, transcoded included and wee need truetype fonts, and iso8859-15. We are able to see Euro displayed on a xterminal when we run: #xterm -fn -mix-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-C-70-ISO8859-15 But is impossible that all the fonts show the Euro at all. This is confusing!! When we run xfd, an aplication that displays all the characters of a map, we can see the Euro symbol displayed in all the fonts iso8859-15, but when selecting those fonts the Euro symbol simply doesn't appear. Summing up, when trying to get the euro under KDE all that we can see is '?' (a little circle with 4 marks) or an '?'. All of these is anoying, we don't know what to do now. Anybody has got configured Euro symbol, with all fonts (M$ truetype included) under KDE2 and a woody distribution? Thanks in advance again, any advice would be apreciate... Javi, I have finally suceeded in rendering and using the ¤ (euro sign) and I should say that it is thanks to Hendrik Sattler, although the settings for German and Spanish differ in several aspects. I am using woody (Debian 3.0) + KDE 2.2.1 (from sid). These are my settings. It may be possible that some are not necessary: 1) /etc/locale.gen: es_ES ISO-8859-15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15 en_US ISO-8859-1 Run locale-gen after modifying this file. 2) /etc/environment: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LANG=es_ES.ISO-8859-15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] this allows that KDE aplications read tke variables on startup. The settings for LC_ALL and LANG must be exactly as I show them. Any other combination does not work. I do not know if the last two items are needed. 3) Install package user-es. If you run /usr/bin/castellanizar you will get a file called /etc/language-es which should be called by /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile. /etc/language-es (some of the entries): [EMAIL PROTECTED] export LC_ALL LANG=es_ES.ISO-8859-15 export LANG 4) Install xfonts-100dpi-transcoded and xfonts-75dpi-transcoded 5) Modify in Kcontrol - Personalización - País e Idioma from ISO-8859-1 to ISO-8859-15 6) Some individual applications from KDE may need that you change the codification from ISO-8859-1 to ISO-8859-15 (like kmail or kedit) 7) This is NOT necessary to be changed. The entry in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/de should say: key AD03 {[ e, E ], [EuroSign,cent ] }; which is the default one. If you change EuroSign by currency it does NOT work. Here it differs from the German case. With these settings you will get ¤ on applications like kmail, kword, kedit,... but if you type Alt-Gr E on konsole you will get the circle with four corners in the form of X. If you copy and paste this sign from konsole to kmail the symbol is pasted as ¤. In kdm you cannot type ¤ because it does not work there, but I guess nobody needs it there :-) regards, Pablo de Vicente KDE spanish translation team.
Re: [KDE-es] Re: Euro support for Kde 2
El Mié 24 Oct 2001 18:59, escribiste: 7) This is NOT necessary to be changed. The entry in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/de should say: Sorry I made an error here: It should say /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/es Pablo de Vicente KDE spanish translation team.
Re: KDE docs in other formats
El Vie 20 Jul 2001 05:42, Bruce Sass escribió: On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: [...] I leave you with this rhetorical question... If DocBook is such a great format for the end-user to have their documentation in, why are the files in /usr/share/doc/docbook-doc HTML. I never said it was a gret format for the end-user. I said the benifits of using docbook for a distribution outway the spead the end-user gets from viewing documentation. It is easier to maintain a single file than 4 different versions of one. that's not even talking about the size. That is the nice thing about the SGML and LaTeX way of doing things -- you don't need to maintain multiple sets of docs, you maintain one and generate what is best for the intended use... be that printing, hypertext, plaintext, some special format. If KDE was using HTML period for their docs, then it is good they changed If you want to maintain html versions of the documentation be my guest. It's a royal pain in the ass and I for one don't even use html. I prefer text. I know people who prefer .pdf. Which format should we provide? All of them? hmmm...let's calculate how much larger the distribution got by providing at least 4 different versions of documentation. No need to get carried away, Ivan. I asked if there were docs available in another format, then I asked how to generate HTML from the docbook stuff, at no time did suggest that you (or even Debian) should provide docs in multiple formats. So... How do I generate HTML from the KDE docbook documentation? That is really the only thing I want to know. In previous versions of KDE, for example KDE 2.1.1, the command was: kdb2html the_file_of_interest.docbook Then the previous procedure would create a HTML/ directory just under the directory you were, with all contents of the docbook splitted usually in many small HTML files, and with an index.html. I do not know if this happens in KDE 2.2, since I am still using KDE 2.1.1, and since KDE has moved from docbook to XML. Indeed as a curiosity I should say that now the documentation may be translated using PO files, which makes easier for translators using kbabel updating translations. A daily script generates the PO files from the original english XML and back, each of the other languages PO files, to the appropiate XML file (with docbook extension) from it. Pablo de Vicente KDE spanish translation team
Re: konqueror and flash
El Mar 24 Abr 2001 16:55, Jesse Goerz escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 24 April 2001 10:27, Johnny Morano wrote: the trick is to check if all the plugins in netscape are installed ONCE (this is important), and then all the Netscape plugins will work in konqueror... well, it does overhere... flash, realaudio and all that other crap ;-) so, check your harddrive for netscape-plugins (search for '*/netscape/plugin*' ), install the plugins you want in netscape and then be happy ;-) If you have it installed you can just run: /usr/bin/nspluginscan And I believe konqueror installs it by default: bash$:dpkg -S nspluginscan konqueror: /usr/bin/nspluginscan Thank you. It used to work for me but stopped working when I updated to a new version of the Flash plugin. Now, since running /usr/bin/nspluginscan, it has started working again. Pablo de Vicente.
Re: kdelibs-dev uninstallable ... docbook-utils
El Lun 23 Abr 2001 16:06, Ivan E. Moore II escribió: On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 01:25:47AM -0500, Gordon Sadler wrote: Since you added this dependency in CVS to Build-Depend.. and now it shows up as a Depend for kdelibs-dev, I've been looking for it in incoming. It's not to be found. Did you make a local package of this? Do we really need it ? It's the kde-docbook stuff I assume, the 'jw' wrapper script? I thought I recall seeing on kde-devel that it was deprecated with the xml helpslave? Of course, I can't get that to work either.. but it is alpha -). well in theory kdelibs3 should depend on docbook-utils as that is where kdb2html resides which still uses jw...of course the only thing that seems to use kdb2html anymore is 2.1 stuff. http://www.dulug.duke.edu/~mark/debian/old/ if you want docbook-utils...I'm going to remove the dependency on it for now and just hope that it either goes away completely or docbook-utils finally goes into sid. Perhaps I am saying nonsense, but I think that development tools for documentation in KDE 2.2 will need xml-dtd-4.1.2 which I do not know if are part of docbook-utils or not. I have read that in the kde-i18n-doc list. This is related to the use of XML for the documentation in the next KDE release. Pablo de Vicente
Re: konqueror and CSS
El Vie 20 Abr 2001 01:39, Hendrik Sattler escribió: http://www.ecs.com.tw IMHO konqueror does a better job than netscape with this page. Netscape has tiny font syndrom and shows a list konqueror instead show a selection(?) button. I cannot read the letters at all. Same at www.giga.de (and then the link in the upper left). Netscape shows tiny letters but they are at least readable. I can view the pages at http://www.ecs.com.tw and at the the link in the upper corner of http://www.giga.de. The only issue is that the font it renders is a bit ugly. I am using KDE 2.1.1 (update from 4 o 5 days ago) + potato. Pablo de Vicente
Re: KDE 2.1.1?
El Mié 28 Mar 2001 23:20, Marc Meier escribió: Hi, will KDE 2.1.1 appear on tdyc? Currently there is 2.1.10 but AFAIK it's Ivans tenth build of 2.1.0 and shoud better be called 2.1.0-10. Sorry if I miss anything. Well, currently you will find KDE 2.1.1 in kde.debian.net formerly kde.tdyc.com Pablo de Vicente
Re: ISO images
El Mié 28 Mar 2001 06:38, Rick Cook escribió: On Tuesday 27 March 2001 13:39, Pablo de Vicente wrote: Ivan, Do you have any plans for a future ISO image? Thank you, Pablo de Vicente Rick does... I plan on making another ISO image after 2.1.1 shakes out a little more. Rick OK, thank you, Pablo de Vicente
ISO images
Ivan, Do you have any plans for a future ISO image? Thank you, Pablo de Vicente
Re: kppp and pon (provider)
El Vie 23 Mar 2001 23:04, paul taylor escribió: I am on the verge of having a working system. the last kde piece bombed. I got kppp and installed it. I went to configure it and it would dial but not make a conection with my ISP. I figured I would go back to pon (provider) but now that does the same thing. My ISP is a black belt doshead. I cant get the log in script from them and now the only way I can dial in is via windows. This is not ideal Ideas? I have a very similar problem. I can connect to some machines of my ISP but not to all of them. With those that fail, both kppp and pon dial and negotiate with the ISP server but when my machine sends my password the ISP server does not authenticate myself. It just does not acknowledge, and pppd waits and waits. If kppp is running it is killed after 1 minute with signal 15. This happens using PAP and CHAP. Now, I do not think this is kppp problem, since I have a second free ISP with which I can connect, and some non-local machines of my main ISP DO work with both kppp and pon. I would say that the ISP servers have had some kind of update which makes impossible to fullfill the negotiation with a linux machine. IMHO this may be an issue for pppd. I have a friend in Telefonica (the main spanish phone company) and he says they use 2 kind of machines for servers: 3COM and Lucent. He suspects this comes from 3COM machines. He has also told me they have found some kind of incompatibilty between CHAP for Windows and Linux. A Linux server with CHAP does not understand CHAP from new Windows machines. Pablo de Vicente.
Re: At a loss with kppp
El Vie 23 Mar 2001 18:08, Victor escribió: After having used kde 2.01 on a redhat box for a year or so, I've installed the latest release of kde 2.1 stable for debian potato on my new PC and go on using kmail as my favourite mail reader. Unfortunately, kppp doesn't run correctly both as a user and as root. After dialing the phone number, it connects giving info about the connection but immediately stop declaring pppd died unexpectedly - exit status 1 (I had a look at man pppd but this is an extremely generic error) . Neither is /var/log/messages more helpful: it says : terminating on signal 15. I had a go at chmod u+s /usr/bin/kppp and at giving all the users the same dip group. No success. Could you please help me with it? Try to use 'pon' and 'poff', to check if the problem comes from kppp or pppd. pon connects you to your ISP and poff disconnects you from your provider. 'pppconfig' will help you to configure your PPP ISP connection. You may have a look at /var/log/ppp.log for debugging purposes. All those programs come from package ppp. Pablo de Vicente.
Re: Potato packages (was: Re: QT2.3 + XFree86 4.02 = AA out of the box?)
El Jue 08 Mar 2001 06:40, Ivan E. Moore II escribió: it's also amazing that so many people have put up with my crap over the past couple years..heh... Well I think that demonstrates several facts: - Debian is a very good distribution, with a well designed packaging system and a very good policy that are its strongest values - KDE is a high quality desktop environment, powerfull and with many features. - and last but not least, you have done an excellent job packaging KDE for Debian. I would say you have filled the need and wish of many people that did not want to renounce to neither Debian nor KDE. And you have filled that with a high quality work. Many thanks, Pablo de Vicente
Re: new install
El Mié 28 Feb 2001 19:12, Hendrik Sattler escribió: Am Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2001 18:33 schrieb jerry: just a short note about my install. I used linuxcare bbc to get a mimimal install accomplished to a laptop harddrive that's going into an iopener. installed HD into iopener and completed configuration. using dselect, completed installation of debian packages from debian.org. using apt-get, grabbed all packages for KDE install, during dselect for kde, there were dependancies, most were resolved with no problem, however there is one dep that remains:libgl1 (I Did you mean KDE2.1? If yes: How did you get all the dependencies of arts correct? It depends on libmpeglib0 which cannot be installed because it depends on libogg0 and libvorbex0 which cannot be found. How did you solve this? Hendrik Add kde2 to the sources.list for kde. Like this: deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto qt1apps optional kde2 libogg0 and libvorbis are here -- (Those are the old 2.01 pacakges) Pablo de Vicente
Re: noatun crashes?
El Mar 27 Feb 2001 16:07, Robert Guthrie escribió: I was curious if noatun was even installed on my system (most of kde was removed by dselect, and task-kde had unmet dependencies, so I'm reconstructing kde piece-by-piece), so I tried apt-get install noatun #noatun: Depends: arts but it is not going to be installed apt-get install arts #arts: Depends: libmpeglib0 (= 4:2.1-final-0.potato1) but it is not going to be installed apt-get install libmpeglib0 # libmpeglib0: Depends: libogg0 but it is not installable #Depends: libvorbis0 but it is not installable apt-get install libogg0 libvorbis0 # Package libogg0 has no available version, but exists in the database. # Package libogg0 has no installation candidate Am I missing something in my sources.list entries? deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto qt1apps optional deb ftp://ftp.stealth.net/debianstable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free It has happened the same to me. The way to fix it is add the route for the 2.01 package list. Add: deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto qt1apps optional kde2 That will load the two libraries you need. Ivan, could you rebuild those libraries for KDE 2.1? However I still have problems. When launching noatun I get: ** Warning ** MCOP ObjectManager: Could not load extension libnoatunarts. ** Warning ** MCOP ObjectManager: can't find implementation for Arts::Equalizer. KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = noatun path = unknown Pablo de Vicente
Re: kde mirror
El Sáb 24 Feb 2001 18:42, Dave Smith escribió: I run several PCs which use KDE2. I have used apt-move to create a local mirror of the main and non-us packages and wish to do the same with the KDE2 packages. Does anyone have a utility (or nifty one liner) which achieves this? You may use mirror or rsync. Mirror is perl script which makes ftp to kde.tdyc.com. It needs a file with the rules to exclude/include directories and files. If you are interested I can send you the one I use. You can also use rsync, which probably, is a better solution. I use that to mirror debian. I think that there is an old message in this list with the rsync command you may use for kde.tdyc.com. Wait a minute I look for it: The command is from Achim Bohnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arrrgh! Thanks Quim!! I always forget that I can list modules with rsync. Will put it into cron when 2.0.1 potato debs appear. FWIW if someone else what's to use rsync only for KDE2 i386 potato debs: cd $tdyc_mirror_root exec rsync --dry-run -v -v -az --delete --delete-excluded \ --exclude source/ \ --exclude incoming/ \ --exclude changes/ \ --exclude qt1apps/ \ --exclude binary-alpha/ \ --exclude binary-m68k/ \ --exclude binary-sparc/ \ --exclude binary-powerpc/ \ kde.tdyc.com::kde/dists/potato/ . Remove --dry-run and -v's as you like :) Achim Pablo de Vicente.
Konqueror does not show jpeg files
Ivan, I am using kde2.1.Postbeta2 for Potato and konqueror does not show jpeg images. I have sent a bug to KDE and I have got this answer: Konqueror does not display jpeg images. It shows a white blank screen. No error message. This has happened to me browsing an Axis Camera. Another example is from gnome, http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/screenshots/gnumeric2.jpeg Is your kde/qt compiled with jpeg support enabled? (FWIW the above URL works just fine for me, I can view the screenshot in konqueror using khtmlimage without problems) Bye, Simon My question is then the same. Is kde/qt compiled with jpeg support enabled?, Does anybody else have the same problem? regards, Pablo.
Rendering a different charset with kmail and konqueror
I have set up KDE to display spanish, which uses UTF-8 as default charset. This works fine. I have setup kmail to use iso8859-1 as the default charset when composing new messages, this also works fine. If I try to use UTF-8 with kmail, I get big boldface and horrible characters. (I could send this message in this way but you would hate me). This also happens with konqueror. You may try to see any HTML page changing before: Options - Configure Konqueror - Konqueror Browser - Appearence - Default encoding: UTF-8 I noticed this for the first time when I received messages coded with iso8859-2. The characters are bold and huge. Am I missing any font or is this a bug I should submit to KDE? Pablo de Vicente
Dead keys work again!
Ivan, I have updated to KDE2.1beta2 and dead keys work again. It is a wonderful improvement after several months without that feature. Thanks Pablo
Re: kfilereplace
El Jue 25 Ene 2001 16:54, Thibaut Cousin escribió: I have a testing distribution on i386 with KDE 2.0.1 and I've just tried to install kfilereplace 0.6.0-3 (dpkg-source -x ... and dpkg-buildpackage). The build is OK, but during the installation I get : Setting up kfilereplace (0.6.0-3) ... cannot open dhelp file '/usr/doc/kfilereplace/html/.dhelp': at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 559. So the post-installation script is not completed and the installation fails. I have dhelp installed (version 0.3.23). Any idea ? That also failed in KDE 2.1, but Ivan fixed that two days ago. However I guess he has not done so for KDE 2.0.1, since that whole branch is well frozen. I remember he said he had no way (no boxes I guess) to update that version. Pablo de Vicente.
Re: kppp doesn't work out of the box
El Sáb 13 Ene 2001 00:28, Ivan E. Moore II escribió: there are sever out of the box problems with the 2.0.1 version of kppp... The 2.1 should either work currently out of the box (the latest version that is) or will in the next version. If it does not currently it should only be due to a option in /etc/ppp/options that kppp requires..(forget which one)... if this isnt' the case then I need to know what's broken so I can fix it. The perms on kppp should be: -rwsr-xr--1 root dip438012 Jan 7 01:08 /usr/bin/kppp which should reflect pppd's: -rwsr-xr--1 root dip207836 Aug 7 06:46 /usr/sbin/pppd Ivan, that does not work for me. I had to command: chmod a+s /usr/bin/kppp and it worked. Pablo de Vicente.
Re: Dead keys
El Dom 07 Ene 2001 21:51, Logi Ragnarsson escribió: Hi! I've been running the kde 2.0.1 and now kde 2.1 debian packages (thanks!) and while generally things look good (except the new koffice, but that is what the warning was for...), I have some trouble with dead keys in some apps. konsole won't accept dead keys at all. The alt-F2 dialogue neither. Some apps accept dead keys, but after opening a dialogue-box, the dead keys will be disabled. This happens in KBabel, which is a utility for translating software and means that I can't search, go to particular lines, etc. without the program becoming useless. I have exactly the same problem as you. Accents do not work in konsole, and when I open dialog boxes in some applications, for example Kbabel, which I use for the KDE translations to spanish, accents will stop working. I have even experienced that with kmail, but I stil do not know when it happens with it. When it happens if you close the message you want to send and open it again you regain the accents. I am using KDE 2.0.1 in one of my machines, and KDE 2.1 in another, with Debian 2.2 and X3.3.6. I have already commented this problem before in the list and Daniel de los Reyes told me that accents in KDE 2.1 in Debian Woody work fine, but I have not tested it.. Pablo
KDE Addressbook
He comenzdo a simultanear la traducción de los docbook de kdebase con los PO de kdeutils. He modificado el nombre del KDE Adressbook de Libro de direcciones de KDE a Agenda de direcciones de KDE, porque me parece más apropiado. Pablo. Pablo de Vicente ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), http://www.oan.es, OAN Spain
Re: kbabel?
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 07:05:42PM +0200, Hasso Tepper wrote: Pablo de Vicente wrote: Do you have any plan to debianize kbabel?. If so, it could go in kdebase-dev since it is a tool to help on the translation of PO files. I made package for myself. I haven't time to work with it at the moment (or to become Debian mainatiner or ...). Maybe after exams in January. OK. I put two packages up. Kbabel and kcpuload. No lintian errors any more ;-). Thanks Ivan, templates are really helpful! Packages are for potato. If someone wants start to maintain these packages, feel free. I just haven't time :(. Thank you to both of you, Hasso and Ivan. I wish I had more time to learn how to debianize programs. Ummm, I will try to get some time in the near future. Indeed I would need to do that for other programs related to my job. regards, Pablo.
kbabel?
Ivan Do you have any plan to debianize kbabel?. If so, it could go in kdebase-dev since it is a tool to help on the translation of PO files. Pablo.
Re: Kdm broke after recent update
El Vie 15 Dic 2000 16:36, Hanno Mueller escribió The 2nd problem is when logging out to reboot or shutdown kdm exits but the user is then left at the console. The machine never boots or shutsdown. Does anyone know how to fix this? yes...upgrade. :) I guess that Scott is using Potato, just like me. The bug is still existant in the current binary of kdm, I have the very same problem, so apt-get upgrade doesn't fix the problem. I have the same problem and I have upgraded this morning. I am also using potato. Pablo. _ Pablo de Vicente ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.oan.es (Spain
problems with accents in konsole (again)
2 days ago I upgraded one of my machines with potato with kde 2.0.1, and accents in konsole were working fine (from spanish keyboard), I was really pleased, but today I have upgraded again and the bug is present again. I have read in this list that this bug does not exist in Woody. I only mention it here again just to give a clue in case there has been a change that may have produced this presence/absence of accents in konsole. Pablo. _ Pablo de Vicente ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.oan.es (Spain
Re: kde-i18n-es
El Mié 13 Dic 2000 06:34, Ivan E. Moore II escribi: are we all good now? I guess so. I have seen in the CVS that you have modified the Makefile.am (i have not checked other subdirectories in the kde-i18n/es directory) Thank you. Pablo. __ P. de Vicente ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.oan.es (Spain)
Re: kde-i18n-es
On Sunday 12/10/2000 08:40, Ivan E Moore wrote: I've uploaded to both Debian (for woody) and kde.tdyc.com (for potato) let me know... Ivan Ivan, I have downloaded the new packages for potato and the files are still missing from the documentation. The file I have used for kde-i18n-es is: kde-i18n-es_2.0.1-2_all.deb To help you track down the problem I have also downloaded from ftp.kde.org the file: kde-i18n-2.0.1.tar.bz2 untarred it and looked at the es/ subdirectory. The files I am looking for ARE there. If you want to check it, kde-i18n-2.0.1/es/docs/kdebase/khelpcenter/userguide contains subdirectories and files. BUT this subdirectory is not even created by the Debian package. Thanks, Pablo Pablo de Vicente ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), http://www.oan.es, OAN Spain
Re: kde-i18n-es
El Lun 11 Dic 2000 11:28, Ivan E. Moore II escribió: I have downloaded the new packages for potato and the files are still missing from the documentation. The file I have used for kde-i18n-es is: [...] untarred it and looked at the es/ subdirectory. The files I am looking for ARE there. If you want to check it, kde-i18n-2.0.1/es/docs/kdebase/khelpcenter/userguide contains subdirectories and files. BUT this subdirectory is not even created by the Debian package. The problem is not with the Debian package or the packaging process..but rather in whoever handeled the Makefile.am file in: kde-i18n-2.0.1/es/docs/kdebase/khelpcenter/ It was missing a line which tells the build process that there are subdirs to process. Without this line it ignores all of the subdirs...I've fixed this and am building new packages. (I need to go commit that fix to CVS before I forget...) Ivan Thank you, for spotting the problem. Besides you sending a commit to CVS I send a CC of this message to one of the KDE developers. I am almost sure it was not his fault but he may want to know about this problem. Thanks again, Pablo. Pablo de Vicente ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), http://www.oan.es, OAN Spain
kde-i18n-es
Ivan I am one of the translators for the KDE documentation to spanish and I have found that some translations are not in the debian package and some are. The latest spanish documentation for kdehelpcenter is there, but the latest documentation for the kdehelpcenter/userguide/ is not there and I translated it before the former. I have downloaded the original kde-i18n-es.tar.bz2 documentation and all the translations are there. Do you have any hint of what has happened?. Why is the deb package missing part of the documentation?. Thank you, Pablo. Pablo de Vicente ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), http://www.oan.es, OAN Spain
Re: KDE 2.0...
El Dom 03 Dic 2000 22:28, Marcin Landowski escribió: I can't install KDE 2.0. Most of the packages require libqt2.2 (= 2:2.2.1-5.potato.1), but there is only libqt2.2_2.2.1-4.potato.2 version in the final distribution (at the kde.org). I've installed a part of KDE 2.0 released 2000-10-05 and some earlier, but without multimedia and many useful programs released some latter. Do not use ftp.kde.org, use: kde.tdyc.com If you are using apt-get place a line in your /etc/apt/sources.list like this: deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main qt1apps optional crypto and remove the reference from kde.org, and then resintall. Pablo de Vicente ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), http://www.oan.es, OAN Spain
Re: apt-get install KDE2
El Dom 03 Dic 2000 15:48, Bill Barnes escribió: added the new format 'deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main' to sources-list and apt-get update seems to run properly. apt-get install couldn't find package kde2 or kde. What must I have wrong. Your sources.list is outdated. The line indicating the route for kde.tdyc.com should say: deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main qt1apps optional crypto Pablo de Vicente ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), http://www.oan.es, OAN Spain