Re: Need advise setting up NAT for LDOMs
Adrian HTH, but I have not touched Solaris for at least 25 years. Two links below seem to be useful Cheers -- Rick "Example #ldm add-vsw net-dev=net0 primary-vsw0 primary http://oracle-virtualization.weebly.com/ldom-cli-cheatsheet.html "Define a virtual L2 switch which is associated with the physical NIC device net0. Virtual switch service (vsw) enables networking between virtual network (vnet) devices in logical doma... https://sites.google.com/view/info4all/ldoms-on-solaris On May 29, 2023 2:44:16 AM EDT, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >Hello! > >We have one SPARC T4 that is running Solaris 11.4 CBE and is waiting >for its final setup. One of the problems is that the machine has one >external IP only and the LDOMs therefore need to be set up using NAT. > >Unfortunately, I have so far been unable to understand how NAT on Solaris >is configured since the documentation is very vague on this topic. > >Does anyone know how to set up NAT for LDOMs? > >Thanks, >Adrian > >-- > .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >: :' : Debian Developer >`. `' Physicist > `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 > -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: Anyone ever tried Debian on a Fujitsu/Oracle M3000 ?
From folks who have tried? Sorry, no. If the info below is not helpful, sorry and please just delete my message. Is illumos or SmartOS an option? Info from Bryan Cantrill: http://dtrace.org/blogs/bmc/2017/09/04/the-sudden-death-and-eternal-life-of-solaris/ Following a few links from that article to https://illumos.org/docs/about/distro/ , I see that derived systems claim to have SPARC builds: Tribblix, DilOS, and V9os. cheers -- Rick On 2022-05-13 10:04, Dennis Clarke wrote: Somewhat annoyed by reality but I have to ask. [ here you need to hear a long whine noise like metal failing ] I have a Fujitsu/Oracle M3000 brick sitting in my world and near as I can tell it runs nothing other than Oracle Solaris 11.3 and will never be able to run anything else. Not even the "free to download" Oracle Solaris 11.4 because the Lawnmower killed all sparc support for all sparc hardware other than a T4 and upwards. For now anyways. [ end of high pitch whine ] Thus with 64G of ECC memory and four very expensive 15k rpm SAS disks the thing is a brick. Or is it ? Is there any reasonable way to : [A] netboot Debian [B] toss it on a scrap heap for re-cycle Would love to hear any input from folks who have tried.
Re: Mozilla Software on Sparc64/Linux
Hi Adrian The reason that I think PPC is related is that, if it is also BE then PPC users may have solved some of the compatibility problems that we experience. I realize that there's a difference in this between PPC and Sparc; but some of the PPC fixes can at least suggest Sparc fixes as long as they have stayed BE. IBM is putting considerable effort into this. I talked with an IBM consultant at the X11 conference in Montreal two years ago. But we didn't discuss Sparc. And I didn't discuss IBM changing to LE. Is it true? Cheers -- Rick On November 7, 2021 5:18:54 p.m. EST, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >Hello Rick! > >On 11/7/21 22:44, rl...@leirtech.com wrote: >> This thread below claims that Big-Endian is dead (2015). It says that IBM >> changed >> their PowerPC's from BE to LE. Also that web developers assume LE. > >Not sure how your comment is related to the original question but let me just >add this: > >- IBM's s390x architecture is fully supported and one of IBM's cash cows and >it's big-endian >- IBM's AIX operating system which IBM is still actively developing and >selling is big-endian > >> Adrian explained the problem in Firefox a while ago, it was complex. > >Not really. Firefox on Solaris/SPARC exists and works. It's not complex, it's >just that I am >doing the work here alone. I was planning to write an answer to this mail but >I haven't gotten >around to doing that. > >> The words of Linus: >> >> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/4/24/606 >> >> Linux Plumbers Congress 2020: >> >> https://lwn.net/Articles/829733/ > >Linus is not the center of the universe. > >Adrian > >-- > .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >: :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org >`. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de > `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 > -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: [RFC PATCH 0/13] sparc32: sunset sun4m and sun4d
I have some sparcstations too, and would like to be able to use them, but honestly it's unlikely that I ever will. What's more, a modern linux experience is not possible due to limited RAM and disk. Not to mention the problem of keeping the hardware working. The main Debian master has a KISS problem, we would do better to keep it simple stupid. I don't mean to insult anyone with this, maybe the phrase doesn't translate well. please don't take offense. Maybe the problem is all in my head. To keep it simple we should reduce the number of target architectures and maybe remove all but 64 bit. For 32 bit Sparc we should freeze functionality, but keep fixing bugs. How can we choose the most reliable debian version as the basis for a bug fix branch? Imho Cheers Rick On December 20, 2020 11:07:08 a.m. EST, Stan Johnson wrote: >I also have a couple of SPARCstation 5 systems that I'd like to be able >to keep using. > >-Stan Johnson > >On 12/19/20 2:57 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On 12/19/20 10:40 PM, Sam Ravnborg wrote: >>> Please keep the inputs coming independent if you are pro or not >>> for the sunset of sun4m and sun4d. >> I would personally be in favor of keeping it and I should finally get >> my SPARCstation 5 up and running again. >> >> Adrian >> -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: Bug#965342: openjdk-15: Please update build configuration for sparc64
But Hotspot supported the previous version of OpenJDK. Is version 15 Hotspot not supported because changes are known to be needed, or just because the maintainers don't have the time to test it on SPARC? As you say it is sad. Java and SPARC are the SW/HW claims to fame of the Sun Corp. On 7/19/20 5:59 PM, Gregor Riepl wrote: The latest pre-release version of OpenJDK 15 unfortunately dropped native Hotspot support for Solaris and Linux SPARC which is why we have to resort to using Zero only. The updated diff patches the debian/rules to reflect these changes by switching sparc64 to Zero-only and dropping the configure option --enable-deprecated-ports. I just read up on Zero [1] [2] - it's a bit sad that things have to be this way with Hotspot. Hopefully the slow paths that Shark has to take have been improved since then (or will be improved in the future). [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20090531095111/http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2009/05/21/zero-and-shark-openjdk-port.html [2] https://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/ZeroSharkFaq
Re: General beginners questions for debian sparc64
Hi all, All this breakage seems to be due to many programmers ignoring the simple rules for endian compatibility. At an X.org conference in Montreal last year I chatted with someone who was fixing these sorts of problems for IBM. We might get better progress by looking at the recent fixes in the PPC and ZOS trees (sorry, I have that name incorrect). These architectures are big endian so the fixes might be easily ported to SPARC. There might still be problems due to bus word alignment, but from memory SPARC is more 'flexible' than the others on that issue. I am still hoping to get my SparcBlade 2000 working again! Though with no time available. Cheers -- Rick On June 15, 2020 3:46:56 PM EDT, Gregor Riepl wrote: >> I think i should have the PGX64 chipset in this machine, but i am not >> sure if it uses the correct driver. glxinfo tells me everything is >> fine with direct rendering using llvm. > >The Rage XL[1] is a fairly dated and limited GPU, but it has very good >2D driver support on Linux. I think it can even do Xv and most of the >standard 2D acceleration in X.org. > >> When i try to run glxgears, i get a bus error. When i try to run >> extremetuxracer, i don't get into the game, the errors point to >> unhandled calls in some asound library. > >In theory, the GPU should have OpenGL 1.0 support (and thus be able to >run glxgears), but this may not actually help much in practice. >Practically nobody cares about OpenGL 1.0 any more these days. I don't >know why it crashes, perhaps some OpenGL libraries are missing. It's >also possible that hardware support was dropped at some point, or never >implemented properly. > >> Also i can't run any web browser. Midori and Epiphany crash or don't >> open a website and the current Firefox or Firefox-esr are not >> installable due to missing dependencies. > >That is to be expected. The old Firefox version that is still on the >Debian Ports repo does not work with current libraries, and there are >still various build and runtime issues with recent versions. But I >think >we are slowly getting there. > >> Is any of this current normal behavior or is my configuration >> incorrect at some point and some of these thing are supposed to >> work, albeit slow on these old machines? > >Yes, this is (unfortunately) expected behaviour. The sparc64 still >needs >a lot of TLC before it is ready for regular use. > >Still, I wouldn't want to go back to Solaris. You will not be able to >run much modern (desktop) software on Solaris 8, and this is very >unlikely to change. -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: How to support the Debian Sparc64 Port
Welcome Nils! How to help? Adrian posted some images yesterday and asked for help testing them. Firefox is an important package so you are helping already by identifying a problem there. Better still, can you see the fix! Thanks Rick On November 19, 2019 3:04:30 PM EST, Nils Meinert wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I just got me a Sun Ultra 60 and installed the Debian Sparc64 Port. I >ran into some issues trying to install some packages (e.g. Firefox). So >I was wondering if there is a way to support the Debian Sparc64 >Port-Team in any way. > >Background: I'm a software developer (no admin) and using Linux (mainly >Debian and RHEL/Fedora) for some years. > >Kind reagrds >Nils -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09
Oracle Linux .. for Intel processors? Please ask him about Oracle Linux for Sparc. I would like to give it a try if they have it. Thanks -- Rick On May 9, 2019 5:00:52 PM EDT, Dennis Clarke wrote: >On 5/9/19 4:44 PM, Meelis Roos wrote: >>> Given that it works on a sun4u then I am guessing that a Sunblade >2000 >>> should be perfect for this sort of thing. I know that I have one of >>> those in the warehouse. However I think they need FCAL disks. >Anyways I >>> will give that a look see and also I hope serial console works out >of >>> the box. >> >> Yes, I should try it on some sun4u too. And probably bare hardware >sun4v - >> all my sparcs run Linux natively. >> >> About Blade 1x00/2x00 and E280R: they use qla2xxx for root disks and >last >> I tried this was broken in the kernel. It may be better now but older > >> Symbios >> and newer MPT etc controllers would probably be a safer try if you >have >> them >> available. >> > >My problem is that I have way too much sparc hardware in life and no >real up to date OS to run. Sure Solaris 10 is still around and barely >supported but it is horrific for performance. I was just speaking with >an Oracle salesrep about the new 5GHz T8 and he assures me that Oracle >has Linux running there. Oracle Linux v6 and v7 run there. He says. >Well >I see Oracle Linux as just a variation on the RHEL sources. > > >-- >Dennis Clarke >RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC >UNIX and Linux spoken >GreyBeard and suspenders optional -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09
Yes, and most homes have that plug behind the stove in the kitchen and for the dryer in the laundry room. It is easy to wire up another like this in the contact breaker panel. Cheers -- Rick On May 9, 2019 4:02:57 PM EDT, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >On 5/9/19 9:59 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> The big blocker for me is that the M4000 needs 240V power supply. >> Otherwise I would run it at home. >I thought you can get 240 volts in the US when using a two-phase >power outlet. > >Adrian > >-- > .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >: :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org >`. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de > `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: Bug#920902: firefox: Please split out Javascript builds into arch:all package
On January 31, 2019 7:37:46 AM EST, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >On 1/31/19 11:38 AM, Gregor Riepl wrote: >> What's the point of writing code in an arch-independent language, >when you >> *still* end up with arch-dependency due to an unportable runtime? > >It's convenience, nothing else. Firefox upstream used to build the >Javascript >modules separately, now they just integrated that into the build >process which resulted into NodeJS being pulled in. > >> I wonder if wouldn't be possible to ship all NodeJS modules required >for >> building Firefox with the source code and run the build process in >Firefox's own JS runtime. > >No idea whether this is possible. I'm not a Javascript expert. Gregor, Adrian Yes it is possible. However the dependencies would become more complex, with the possibility that two versions of a nodejs module would be installed, one in Firefox and one in the normal installation. It is do-able but the KISS principle argues against it. I am not a Debian maintainer so take my words with a pinch of salt. Cheers -- Rick > >Adrian -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: sparc64 most important tasks
Hi Adrian What is on your current top pri bug list? Thanks -- Rick On 8/7/18 5:53 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi! In case anyone wonders, here's a list of top priority bugs on sparc64 that need to be worked on: hfst-ospell: Testsuite fails on linux-sparc64 https://github.com/hfst/hfst-ospell/issues/43 linux: Application run by unprivileged user can crash the kernel on sparc64 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200625 qtscript-opensource-src: Please include patch to workaround memory issues on sparc64 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=902635 rustc: incremental compilation: could not create session directory lock file: No locks available (os error 37) https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/49773 firefox: Early startup crash on Linux sparc64 in HashIIDPtrKey (Bus Error) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1434726 harfbuzz: FTBFS on sparc64, testsuite failures https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=898983 openexr: DwaCompressor endianess issue https://github.com/openexr/openexr/issues/222 qtwebsockets-opensource-src: FTBFS on sparc64 and x32: tst_qmlwebsockets segfault at startup https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=879970 grub2: FTBTS (no bug report yet) https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=grub2&arch=sparc64&ver=2.02%2Bdfsg1-5&stamp=1533001924&raw=0 So, if anyone is wondering what they can do to help, there is now a list. If you need more details, let us know. Thanks, Adrian
Re: Latest Debian Sparc64 installer
Thomas Does your machine have FiberChannel disks (FC-AL?) There was a problem with the driver the last time I tried to install. That was a year ago, and I was too busy to fix it. My guess is that there is an endian problem in whatever boot code that calls the driver. I say that because the driver is old and has never been changed. You might want to try using an ATA or SCSI disk temporarily. Please let me know how it goes. Cheers Rick On December 17, 2018 2:27:46 AM EST, Thomas D Dial wrote: >A few months back I made a half hearted try at installing Debian on a >Sun Blade 1000. The installer failed instantly and I deferred this in >favor of more immediately pressing matters, but now will have time to >spend on it. > >I have found debian-10.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso (apparent date 5/18/18 >and debian-9.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso (apparent date 4/4/18) at >cdimage.debian.org. Is there a later version of either? > >Thanks in advance >Tom Dial -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: xserver problem 9.0-sparc64 netinst
Fred, Am I right to guess that you have an ATI Mac64 PCI card in the Ultra5? In that case, the error below seems important: [542823.455] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module mach64 [542823.456] (EE) Failed to load module "mach64" (module does not exist, 0) HTH -- Rick On December 3, 2018 10:25:31 AM EST, Fred wrote: >On 12/03/2018 07:52 AM, Fred wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I installed debian 9.0 from the 4 April 18 netinstall .iso, also X >and >> openbox. When I run startx the xserver refuses the connection. I >> have not been able to figure out why. Here is the Xorg.0.log: >> >(Ultra 5) > >> [542822.625] >> X.Org X Server 1.20.3 >> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >> [542822.628] Build Operating System: Linux 4.17.0-1-sparc64-smp >> sparc64 Debian >> [542822.629] Current Operating System: Linux peeves 4.15.0-2-sparc64 >> #1 Debian 4.15.11-1 (2018-03-20) sparc64 >> [542822.629] Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda2 ro >> [542822.631] Build Date: 25 October 2018 06:15:23PM >> [542822.632] xorg-server 2:1.20.3-1 (https://www.debian.org/support) >> [542822.633] Current version of pixman: 0.34.0 >> [542822.634] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org >> to make sure that you have the latest version. >> [542822.634] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) >default >> setting, >> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >> [542822.639] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Dec 2 >> 14:54:39 2018 >> [542822.676] (==) Using system config directory >> "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" >> [542822.765] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. >> [542822.766] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. >> [542822.766] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) >> [542822.767] (**) | |-->Monitor "" >> [542822.777] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen >> Section". >> Using a default monitor configuration. >> [542822.778] (==) Automatically adding devices >> [542822.778] (==) Automatically enabling devices >> [542822.779] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices >> [542822.779] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1f >> [542822.830] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does >> not exist. >> [542822.831] Entry deleted from font path. >> [542822.867] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does >not >> exist. >> [542822.868] Entry deleted from font path. >> [542822.884] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi" does not > >> exist. >> [542822.884] Entry deleted from font path. >> [542822.885] (==) FontPath set to: >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, >> built-ins >> [542822.885] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" >> [542822.885] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of >> input devices. >> If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable >> AutoAddDevices. >> [542822.885] (II) Loader magic: 0x1340bd0 >> [542822.886] (II) Module ABI versions: >> [542822.886] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 >> [542822.886] X.Org Video Driver: 24.0 >> [542822.886] X.Org XInput driver : 24.1 >> [542822.887] X.Org Server Extension : 10.0 >> [542822.897] (++) using VT number 1 >> >> [542822.923] (II) systemd-logind: took control of session >> /org/freedesktop/login1/session/_31424 >> [542822.954] (--) PCI:*(1@0:2:0) 1002:4750:: rev 92, Mem @ >> 0xe100/16777216, 0xe200/4096 >> [542822.963] (II) LoadModule: "glx" >> [542822.974] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so >> [542823.422] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >> [542823.423] compiled for 1.20.3, module version = 1.0.0 >> [542823.423] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 10.0 >> [542823.426] (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 0 >> [542823.426] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 1 >> [542823.427] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 2 >> [542823.427] (==) Matched sunffb as autoconfigured driver 3 >> [542823.427] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout >> [542823.428] (II) LoadModule: "ati" >> [542823.429] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so >> [542823.450] (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >> [542823.451] compiled for 1.20.1, module version = 18.1.0 >> [542823.451] Module class: X.Org Video Driver >> [542823.451] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 24.0 >> [542823.452] (II) LoadModule: "mach64" >> [542823.455] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module mach64 >> [542823.456] (EE) Failed to load module "mach64" (module does not >> exist, 0) >> [542823.456] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting" >> [542823.457] (II) Loading >> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so >> [542823.486] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation" >> [542823.486] compiled
Re: sparc64 most important tasks
Hi Gregor, Adrian I don't know if this is helpful, but Ubuntu Launchpad has a ppa package for elftoaout which has been built recently. https://launchpad.net/~likemartinma/+archive/ubuntu/elftoaout Cheers -- Rick On August 10, 2018 8:12:47 PM ADT, Gregor Riepl wrote: We could modify sparc-utils maybe that it builds on the release architectures similar to what the hppa porters do with their palo >package. >>> >>> I'll have a look. It doesn't look like this package would only >build/work on >>> sparc. Usefulness is a different matter - but that's probably >outside the >>> scope of acceptance criteria? >> >> Correct. Usefulness doesn't matter. Maybe there is another package or >> upstream project that offers an elftoaout tool? > >So for now, I manually modified the boot image build step to strip with >objcopy first, then convert with elftoaout from sparc-utils. > >The resulting boot.img is identical to the one installed by >grub-ieee1275-bin_2.02+dfsg1-4 - that looks promising! >This means we have at least a method to build the boot code without >a.out >support in objcopy. I also looked into making OpenBoot run the ELF >binary >directly, but that seems impossible for an unexpected reason: boot.img >is >written directly into the boot sector of the /boot partition, and there >is >simply not enough space to accommodate the ELF binary. It's 816 bytes, >while >the a.out is exactly 512. > >I'll discuss integrating the change with the grub2 package maintainer >and >upstream, if that's ok for you. And I'll take a look at the sparc-utils >package, maybe making it build for any instead of just sparc64 (as >discussed). -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: audio Sun CS4231
Sacarde Hmm, 16384 is 0x4000 What version of audio driver do you have? Module snd-sun-cs4231 Cheers -- Rick On August 4, 2018 4:59:56 AM EDT, sacarde wrote: >Alle mercoledì 25 luglio 2018, hai scritto: >> On 07/25/2018 03:03 PM, sacarde wrote: > >> Try what's listed here under "Third Party Applications": >> > >https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/P >> >erfectSetup/ > >I try but same problem, running: > >aplay -Dpulse ..wav >or >mplayer -ao pulse ..mp3 >now I hear a noise sound, like: huuuhuuuh > > > > >could this kernel-message be a problem ? > >Aug 04 10:09:56 debian kernel: audio f0066d08: invalid position: , pos >= >16384, buffer size = 16384, period size = 16384 > > >than kyou > >saca...@tiscali.it -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: ZFS'ing my T5120 with Debian
Chris One option you probably considered: use a small disk with the standard ext3 or 4 filesystem just for the OS, and ZFS for all your other disks. I hope this suggestion is useful, otherwise please just ignore. Cheers -- Rick -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: Sun Blade 1000
Tom, Frans Yes, perhaps it is fixed. However there are not many eyes on this problem, so maybe it's not fixed. There was a suggestion that this driver would only fail during installation, but would be fine if you had booted from some SCSI disk, and are mounting the FibreChannel disk from a running Linux. I should try again, but currently I have power supply problems. Cheers Rick On May 17, 2018 5:08:04 AM EDT, Frans van Berckel wrote: > > > >On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 18:13 -0600, Thomas D Dial wrote: >> On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 18:42 -0400, Rick Leir wrote: >> > Hi Tom >> > Does it have the FibreChannel disk controller? That is what my >> > sunblade 2000 has ( manufactured in 2002). >> >> Yes, the disks are FibreChannel. Is there a known fix? I won't get a >> chance to try this for a day or two, but will, and will report the >> outcome. > >Just try the latest ISO by Adrian. Maybe it's solved. And if it doesn't >try reading into my qla2x00 mailboxing driver at kernel.org > >https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org/msg57324.html > >I sold my 4 SunBlade and 4 280R servers. The 2 V440 servers (with is a >deferent1 scsi interface) did boot. But are part of the deal as well. > >Thanks, > >-- >Frans van Berckel >Media Engineer / Linux Master >LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fransvberckel/ -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: Sun Blade 1000
Hi Tom Does it have the FibreChannel disk controller? That is what my sunblade 2000 has ( manufactured in 2002). My experience with that ( two years ago) is that the driver has a bug preventing installation. I discussed this a few years ago. At the time, I was able to install OpenBsd, but that's not what I want. Good luck Rick On May 16, 2018 1:09:06 PM EDT, Thomas D Dial wrote: >I have a pet Sun Blade 1000, presently running Solaris 10, for which >Oracle appears to offer no reasonable non-commercial support. FreeBSD >support also appears somewhat moribund, and I would like to try the >Debian port, which appears to be quite active and making progress >toward first class status. > >The current ports page does not indicate specific support for the Blade >1000. Is this likely to work on this fairly old, but very well built >and still serviceable equipment? > >Are there known issues of which I ought to be aware before attempting >installation? > >Thanks in advance, >Tom Dial -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: qlogic fibrechannel
Kevin, Yes, I think so. Here is what I posted in March: """Now it is telling me that I need some non-free firmware, filename ql2200_fw.bin, and that I should load it from removable media. Does this firmware matter, and where can I get it? There is something by that name on the qlogic.com site. I guess it could be for the FibreChannel interface. OK, ignoring it for now. After doing 'set up users and passwords' correctly it goes on to 'Configure the clock'. It returns from that immediately without doing anything. I was hoping to set the timezone. Now it is doing 'Detecting disks'. Gee, it took a long time on that, maybe a few minutes. Then it says 'No disk drive was detected' and gives me a list of drivers to select from. I am guessing now: qla2xxx ... long pause, then I am back to the list of drivers screen. Try 'qla1280' ... 'qla4xxx' .. help! I think the disk hardware is OK because OpenBSD is installed and can boot. What can I use for a disk driver? How could I load the ql2200_fw.bin? """ I found ql220_fw.bin in a non-free package, and got a bit further, but did not get it booted after much trying. I am inclined to connect any surplus disk just to get it installed temporarily, then debug the driver problem. Maybe it is an endian problem, I understand drivers on older Unix systems but not on Debian. Thanks -- Rick On 2017-09-07 10:15 AM, Kevin Stabel wrote: Hi Rick, Is it qla2200? Kind Regards, -Kevin On Sep 7, 2017 2:18 PM, "Rick Leir" <mailto:rl...@leirtech.com>> wrote: Hi all I am still hoping to get my Sun 2000 (vintage 2002) running with Debian. The problem was the Qlogic fibrechannel disk driver, so perhaps I can add in a different disk controller temporarily. What economical solution would you recommend? Perhaps a USB disk? By the way, OpenBSD installs fine. I might be able to compare drivers and fix this bug, but the problem would be much easier to debug with Debian booting from a SCSI or SATA disk. Thanks Rick
Re: qlogic fibrechannel
Hi all I am still hoping to get my Sun 2000 (vintage 2002) running with Debian. The problem was the Qlogic fibrechannel disk driver, so perhaps I can add in a different disk controller temporarily. What economical solution would you recommend? Perhaps a USB disk? By the way, OpenBSD installs fine. I might be able to compare drivers and fix this bug, but the problem would be much easier to debug with Debian booting from a SCSI or SATA disk. Thanks Rick More Oracle analysis: https://meshedinsights.com/2017/09/03/oracle-finally-killed-sun/ -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: Bad news
There seems to be SPARC in Intel processors acording to the Register: "AMT is software that runs on Intel's Management Engine (ME), a technology that has been embedded in its chipsets in one way or another for over a decade, since around the time the Core 2 landed in 2006. It operates at what's called ring -2, below the operating system kernel, and below any hypervisor on the box. It is basically a second computer within your computer, and it has full access to the network, peripherals, memory, storage and processors. Amusingly, early engines were powered by an ARC CPU core, which has a 16- and 32-bit hybrid architecture, and is a close relative to the Super FX chip used in Super Nintendo games such as Star Fox. Yes, the custom chip doing the 3D math in Star Fox and Stunt Race FX is an ancestor of the ARC microprocessor secretly and silently controlling your Intel x86 tin. These days, the Management Engine uses a SPARC core." How big is motherboard flash?, I suspect it is way too small for us to use. -- Rick -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: Bad news
Hi all, But the truth is that Oracle engineers have had a tough time over the past few years. I have no specific info, just unhappy sounds from sales and ex-sales folks. My small collection of Sparc machines will become odder to the new generations of tech folks! And all power to the remaining Oracle engineers who contribute to sparc linux! Sadly, -- Rick On September 2, 2017 7:03:24 PM EDT, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >On 09/02/2017 08:55 PM, BERTRAND Joel wrote: >> I suppose sparc is definitively dead... > >No sources, just wild claims, the same wild claims that came up when >Solaris was allegedly killed, yet there has been no statement >whatsoever >from Oracle. > >On the contrary, if you follow the sparclinux Linux kernel mailing >list, >you are seeing lots of patches coming in from Oracle employees every >week currently showing no sign of an end. And Oracle just recently >released Exadata SL6 which is based on Linux SPARC [1]. > >So, as long as I don't see an official statement from Oracle confirming >the demise of Solaris and SPARC, I don't pay much attention to such >news articles and so should you. > >Thanks, >Adrian > >> [1] >https://blogs.oracle.com/exadata/exadata-sl6%3a-a-new-era-in-softwarehardware-co-engineering > >-- > .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >: :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org >`. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de > `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
RE: How to recover from blank screen on sparc64
I hope this will be useful but it might be a tangent. Gnome has given me black screen on startup on two different systems in the past month. Is your installation using the gnome greeter? In the first system I tracked the problem back to gtk trying to contact the greeter via dbus when there was no greeter or it was not responding. The second system is still black screen, and I am still troubleshooting. Relevant error messages appear in the 'messages' file, not the X log. And at the risk of sounding growly, the gtk messages were sparse and cryptic. Do you see a pointer on black, or nothing at all? Cheers -- Rick -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: How can i boot *anything* on Sun Blade 100?
Hi TM You would normally have the DVD drive on one IDE cable, and the HD's on a second cable. Otherwise the HD's will slow down to the bus speed of the DVD. The cable pinouts are different for the connectors which are close together. They need to plug into a drive. While you are comparing FreeBSD, you could also compare OpenBSD. Listen to Adrian and connect a serial cable to see errors. Cheers -- Rick On April 10, 2017 1:09:06 PM EDT, transmail wrote: >And which cable is correct for this machine? Because now "boot cdrom" >works with 80 pin too. > >It's impossible to plug the blue connector to the motherboard. The >DVD's and the HDD's connector is too far from each other then. I need >to put the middle (gray) one to the motherboard. When i got the machine >it was that way. > >It did not make any change if i mapped the DVD as slave or CS. What >mattered that i had to put the DVD on the same bus as the HDD. If the >DVD is alone then it only appears if it's the master. > >I'll get a serial cable. > >Kevin Stabel írta: >>With IDE/ATA, it is vital that:- You use the correct cable, 40 or 80 >pins- You place the devices in the right order on the cable. 80 pin >cables will usually have color coding. Usually blue goes on the >motherboard.- Jumper the options correctly on the devices. >Master/slave on 40 pin cables, cable select preferred on 80 pin >cables.For the console ...You will need to set your output-device and >input-device via setenv to switch the console to serial.On Mon, Apr 10, >2017 at 5:45 PM, transmail transm...@freemail.hu> wrote:Ok, i'll >get a serial cable then. But now, the booting up works, it's now >the OS-es what do not want to work. I'll get a DVD-R for Solaris >and i'll wait for the next Debian image. Maybe this'll solve. >As for FreeBSD i have no idea why it does freeze. Does the Blade still >sends messages via serial cable after "boot cdrom" ? >> >>John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> írta: >>>On 04/10/2017 03:40 PM, transmail wrote: I think, it was the SSD which confused the system. Now as SSD is >alone on the secondary channel and on the primary, the HDD is the master and the DVD is >the slave, everything is visible in "probe-ide" and "boot cdrom" >works. But boot FreeBSD and Debian 9 dies under the boot procedure. >>> >>>If you want people to help you, you have to provide the boot messages >from the serial >>>console. Anything else ends up in a guessing game. >>> >>>Adrian >>> >>>-- >>> .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >>>: :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org >>>`. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de >>> `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 >>> >> >> -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: Sun Blade 100 dead?
Hi TCH Are you using a screen connected to the video port? Try instead a serial port. It might be 9600 no parity. HTH -- Rick On April 6, 2017 12:56:57 PM EDT, transmail wrote: >Hi! > >I just got my Sun 6 USB keyboard, so finally i could try my Sun Blade >100. >However, i cannot enter OBP. The machine seems to be alive: after the >power button is pressed, the LED goes green, a short beep emitted, the >LED flashes five times and then remains on and the monitor switches on >(but remains black). The CD drive ejects on demand and the HDD spins >up. > >However if i try to enter OBP with Stop + A, nothing happens. I tried >the diag mode with Stop + D and tried to reset the settings with Stop + >N. No avail. I tried Ctrl + Break and Alt + Ctrl + Break, also without >avail. Tried to press the power button two times after the beep too. >Nothing. > >If i try to switch the keyboard's LED-s on, nothing happens. I tested >the keyboard in my x86 box and it was just fine, everything worked on >it. > >I have no idea what i am doing wrong. Can anyone help me? > >- TCH -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: New sparc64 netboot image available
On 2017-04-01 11:17 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi! I fixed a problem with the generation of netboot images in debian installer today and then create a new netboot image with all debian-installer components up-to-date. The image can be found here: https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/netboot/2017-04-01/ Adrian Hi Adrian I saw the built-using.txt file, listing the versions of packages. Sorry, I am going to ask some big newbie questions. Is your build following the "stable"distribution? Supposing I was to do a build, is there anything special to know, particularly about initrd? I have built kernels and done driver development, but not in the Debian world, so help would be much appreciated! Thanks Rick
Re: Missing dirmngr after fresh install
On March 21, 2017 3:44:55 PM EDT, Jukka Nousiainen wrote: >Hi, > >Many thanks for the new builds that have appeared recently. Yes, thanks Adrian! > >8) Install firmware-qlogic etc. LUNs in a test array were visible out >of the box and multipathd seemed happy enough. I have the ql..mumble..bin driver on an USB flash key, but the debian installer cannot see it. At the disk_detection step, it finds my USB flash but not the qlogic host adapter. I dropped into a busybox shell (ctrl alt f2 or f3) and could see the driver file on the USB flash. Can I copy it into the ramdisk manually? Which directory should I put it in? Then hopefully the disk detection can continue and see the hard disks. Thanks Rick > >Kind regards, >Jukka -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: non-free firmware
On March 21, 2017 5:24:31 AM EDT, Frans van Berckel > >> Maybe I should hook up a SCSI disk, but what I really want is an SSD. > >Talking about hardware dated 2002. It's all about pci controllers and >kernels drivers in this case, i think :-) > >> This old post suggests you can use a SATA->SCSI bridge: >> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-sparc64/2011- >> October/008055.html > >Not even thinking about this solution. It's very expensive. Looking >into storage, booting by network and NFS is more realistic. Hi Frans (OT) A small SSD is $120 here and is the difference between an almost usable machine and a museum piece. How much would that bridge be on ebay (assuming I could locate one)? Cheers Rick -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: non-free firmware
On 2017-03-21 03:19 AM, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 03:06:09AM -0400, Rick Leir wrote: Hi all, I am just trying out Adrian's latest iso (thanks Adrian!!). (On a SunBlade 2000 (circa 2002) with two Cu processors and 1800M RAM, booting from the CDROM): I tapped on the 'choose language, choose keyboard, choose..' screen a bit and it jumped ahead without me being finished there. OK, now I understand: the fourth item is 'Detect and mount CD-ROM', and I must have chosen that. Now it is telling me that I need some non-free firmware, filename ql2200_fw.bin, and that I should load it from removable media. Does this firmware matter, and where can I get it? There is something by that name on the qlogic.com site. I guess it could be for the FibreChannel interface. OK, ignoring it for now. After doing 'set up users and passwords' correctly it goes on to 'Configure the clock'. It returns from that immediately without doing anything. I was hoping to set the timezone. Now it is doing 'Detecting disks'. Gee, it took a long time on that, maybe a few minutes. Then it says 'No disk drive was detected' and gives me a list of drivers to select from. I am guessing now: qla2xxx ... long pause, then I am back to the list of drivers screen. Try 'qla1280' ... 'qla4xxx' .. help! I think the disk hardware is OK because OpenBSD is installed and can boot. What can I use for a disk driver? How could I load the ql2200_fw.bin? I think you'd have to create yourself a USB stick with http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/unstable/current/ on it. (Assuming your hardware knows how to read from usb) HTH, Bye, Joost Hi Joost Thanks for the info. (OT) Looking at your email address, you must have an interesting MTA and MUA to make spam blocking work better. cheers -- Rick
Re: non-free firmware
On 2017-03-21 03:38 AM, Frans van Berckel wrote: Hi Rick, On Tue, 2017-03-21 at 03:06 -0400, Rick Leir wrote: Hi all, I am just trying out Adrian's latest iso (thanks Adrian!!). (On a SunBlade 2000 (circa 2002) with two Cu processors and 1800M RAM, booting from the CDROM): I tapped on the 'choose language, choose keyboard, choose..' screen a bit and it jumped ahead without me being finished there. OK, now I understand: the fourth item is 'Detect and mount CD-ROM', and I must have chosen that. Now it is telling me that I need some non-free firmware, filename ql2200_fw.bin, and that I should load it from removable media. Does this firmware matter, and where can I get it? There is something by that name on the qlogic.com site. I guess it could be for the FibreChannel interface. OK, ignoring it for now. After doing 'set up users and passwords' correctly it goes on to 'Configure the clock'. It returns from that immediately without doing anything. I was hoping to set the timezone. Now it is doing 'Detecting disks'. Gee, it took a long time on that, maybe a few minutes. Then it says 'No disk drive was detected' and gives me a list of drivers to select from. I am guessing now: qla2xxx ... long pause, then I am back to the list of drivers screen. Try 'qla1280' ... 'qla4xxx' .. help! I think the disk hardware is OK because OpenBSD is installed and can boot. What can I use for a disk driver? How could I load the ql2200_fw.bin? I have done some SunBlade 2000 installs. If i am well the Debian installer ask for the firmware while installing. What I did just copy the firmware to a USB stick. It automatily detects the bin and I was able to detect the disks. But just after that, on early version my kernel crashes several times, because it's not handling the FibreChannel controller well. Did report this issue upstream a year ago, so maybe its solved now. I downloaded this firmware-qlogic package. Extracted it manually and copied my bin to the root of the USB stick. If in your case the installer does not ask for the firmware, you can manually copy it to /lib/firmware of the installer. With ctrl + f2 you will get a prompt. https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-qlogic Thanks, Frans van Berckel Hi Frans Thanks for the firmware info. I tried ctrl+f2 on a Sun keyboard but got nothing, so I tried a few other things. L1-A might be sending breaks, because I see @@@ and the machine locks up, not even in OpenProm. Next time I will use a PC keyboard. Maybe I should hook up a SCSI disk, but what I really want is an SSD. This old post suggests you can use a SATA->SCSI bridge: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-sparc64/2011-October/008055.html Thanks -- Rick
Re: non-free firmware
On 2017-03-21 03:17 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Rick! On 03/21/2017 08:06 AM, Rick Leir wrote: (On a SunBlade 2000 (circa 2002) with two Cu processors and 1800M RAM, booting from the CDROM): I tapped on the 'choose language, choose keyboard, choose..' screen a bit and it jumped ahead without me being finished there. OK, now I understand: the fourth item is 'Detect and mount CD-ROM', and I must have chosen that. If you are installing over a serial console, you are most likely running into this bug [1]. Hi Adrian Actually, I am using a real console, it might be "ATI Rage XL". Maybe I should use the serial console, so I can scroll back up as you suggest below. Thanks -- Rick Now it is telling me that I need some non-free firmware, filename ql2200_fw.bin, and that I should load it from removable media. Does this firmware matter, and where can I get it? There is something by that name on the qlogic.com site. I guess it could be for the FibreChannel interface. OK, ignoring it for now. Yeah, that's the firmware for a QLogic FibreChannel controller. If you don't need it for the installation - assuming you don't install on a FibreChannel block device - just skip it. After doing 'set up users and passwords' correctly it goes on to 'Configure the clock'. It returns from that immediately without doing anything. I was hoping to set the timezone. Again, this is most likely the issue as described in [1]. Try selecting items using individual characters on the keyboard (e.g. "a", "b", "c") which correspond to the initial letters of the item in the list. Now it is doing 'Detecting disks'. Gee, it took a long time on that, maybe a few minutes. Then it says 'No disk drive was detected' and gives me a list of drivers to select from. I am guessing now: qla2xxx ... long pause, then I am back to the list of drivers screen. Try 'qla1280' ... 'qla4xxx' .. help! I think the disk hardware is OK because OpenBSD is installed and can boot. What can I use for a disk driver? How could I load the ql2200_fw.bin? What kind of controller/disk setup are you trying to install on? You can scroll up and check what's in the kernel log in your serial terminal. Adrian [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=854588
non-free firmware
Hi all, I am just trying out Adrian's latest iso (thanks Adrian!!). (On a SunBlade 2000 (circa 2002) with two Cu processors and 1800M RAM, booting from the CDROM): I tapped on the 'choose language, choose keyboard, choose..' screen a bit and it jumped ahead without me being finished there. OK, now I understand: the fourth item is 'Detect and mount CD-ROM', and I must have chosen that. Now it is telling me that I need some non-free firmware, filename ql2200_fw.bin, and that I should load it from removable media. Does this firmware matter, and where can I get it? There is something by that name on the qlogic.com site. I guess it could be for the FibreChannel interface. OK, ignoring it for now. After doing 'set up users and passwords' correctly it goes on to 'Configure the clock'. It returns from that immediately without doing anything. I was hoping to set the timezone. Now it is doing 'Detecting disks'. Gee, it took a long time on that, maybe a few minutes. Then it says 'No disk drive was detected' and gives me a list of drivers to select from. I am guessing now: qla2xxx ... long pause, then I am back to the list of drivers screen. Try 'qla1280' ... 'qla4xxx' .. help! I think the disk hardware is OK because OpenBSD is installed and can boot. What can I use for a disk driver? How could I load the ql2200_fw.bin? Thanks -- Rick
Re: X in debian-9.0-sparc on qemu
On 2017-03-05 06:52 AM, Adrian Davey wrote: On 2017-03-05 10:54, sacarde wrote: I have not seen a working display adapter on qemu for sparc64 target, however, would you be able to consider vnc over ssh perhaps to run your X session? I cant run X in virtualized system, ok (until I have vga=none) do you mean run "ssh -X ..." to execute single applications on host PC ? thanks saca...@tiscali.it Hi, Install vnc server in your qemu-system-sparc64 image, (see e.g https://packages.debian.org/sid/tightvncserver ) then connect to it from your desktop vnc client. If you need to, wrap it in an SSH tunnel so that e.g. vnc client connects to localhost:5911 ->SSH tunnel to qemu IP (port forward 5911 to remote host 5901) ->localhost:5901 vnc server The vnc session is a bit like RDP in the windows world, a virtual X session that you can detach from / re-attach to later, ideal for headless servers or display-less emulated systems. http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/vnc.htm might be a useful starting point. Hope this helps, Adrian Have you tried X2go? If it works for you it will be faster than vnc http://x2go.org https://launchpad.net/~x2go/+archive/ubuntu/stable cheers -- Rick
