Re: Debian 1.3 again
On Apr 12, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote : Not a complete answer but ... : : I wouldn't recommend using /dev/modem link. This makes it : more difficult to gurantee the uucp locking protocol. Use : the actual device name instead. No, if all your call out programms use /dev/modem, it's ok. And then it's simple, to change the real device by changing the symlink/link. (In my experience it should be a HARDlink, since mgetty won't work with a symlink. But perhaps this bug/misfeature is fixed meanwhile.) Heiko -- email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp : A1 7D F6 7B 69 73 48 35 E1 DE 21 A7 A8 9A 77 92 finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpTr0PkgGYMm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: portmapper problems
i am replying to my own message but i finally found out what the problem is. /etc/inetd.conf got wiped out, probably because of the upgrade to either netbase 2.11 or 2.12. i'll check to see which one is the culprit and i will file it as a bug against it (2.12 that is, 2.11 seems to have been obsoleted although both are still just sitting in Incoming). --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
PPP Configuration
Is there a tool to set up ppp links or should I be doing things like #!/bin/sh PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin pppd connect chat -v -f /etc/ppp.chatscript /dev/ttyS0 38400 modem crtscts etc... I dont have this working yet but, this should be enough to get the idea across... -Jeff
Bug Report (installing bo)
I've installed bo today from scratch. I found several bugs : ( a=annoying, B=bad, F=fatal) I boot with the rescue disk, install the base from msdos drive, install the packages whith ftp (dselect/ftp). from 'frozen non-free contrib' Here is the list of the bugs + what I did to solve them B : install.txt doesn't tell I need base1_3.tgz. solution: boot win95 and re-ftp a : Wrong date on the first screen (Feb. 12 instead of Ap. 4) F : Packages.frozen tells that the packages are in unstable. but unstable doesn't exist. bo or frozen is correct. solution : sed -e '/unstable/s//frozen/' Packages.frozen Packages.f; mv Packages.f Packages.frozen a : I still have to export PAGER=less to view man-pages decently seems the system-wide config-files could be better. a : xbase-configure leaves me with a non-working startx. I use xf86config and everyone is happy. a : This tetex problem is terrible because I must wait 2 minutes each time it occurs (checking for old ) 'dpkg --purge texinfo' works fine anyway, but dselect hadn't deselected texinfo apparently. Perhaps it should. a : xmixer: Can't open /dev/mixer: No such device I'll look at this later Sorry, the problem is that I have to recompile in order to get sound support. I'd have done it anyway, but it'd have been cool to have sound. I suppose there are too many options in the sound driver... a : there is no dependency, but xbase-configure fails if I don't have xfnt75 Go on, guys, only one day to install. Cool. Seriously, with some fixes, it will be a great product. Not like Solaris 2 that came with -r-xr-xr-x /home. There is probably a better place to post this, but I hope it will go to the right persons. Don't hesitate to reply. I spent several hours to install (and download), I can take a few minutes to read mail. In hope this is usefull, Alexandre
Re: 'Frozen' boot disks
The reason I put this copy up was for testing. For the first round of testing, people were picking them up from sites that only had modem bandwidth. Yes, ftp.debian.org is the authoritative source. If you want to play with the new toys before the store opens, you can pick them up at my site. On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Richard L Shepherd wrote: On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Paul Wade wrote: 4/6/97 I put a copy at ftp.greenbush.com, look in /pub/bodisks. The files are dated by time of transfer, but they are the 4/4 set. I have the same problem. I had thought it may be because I mirror a mirror (which in turn may not directly mirror ftp.debian.org) and so my mirror was effectively a few days behind. However I just checked on ftp.debian.org and it really is empty so Where are they then? So my next question then is: is not ftp.debian.org the authoritative source for the Debian Distribution? i.e. I seek to maintain a mirror of ftp.debian.org thinking that this will ensure I have an up-to-date Debian Distribution for my linux fans. Am I doing the right thing? 8---8 Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 8---8 +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.wtop.com/What does W.T.O.P. mean? + +--+
Re: 'Frozen' boot disks
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Paul Wade wrote: The reason I put this copy up was for testing. For the first round of testing, people were picking them up from sites that only had modem bandwidth. Yes, ftp.debian.org is the authoritative source. If you want to play with the new toys before the store opens, you can pick them up at my site. OK, that's cool then. I have no problems with that. I'll just keep doing what I am. I'm glad to have that clarified ;-) 8---8 Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 8---8
using shadow
I know that /etc/passwd must be readable by world but if shadow passwording is used can /etc/shadow be set to only read/write by root. How do I setup shadowing, I know there is the libpam package but other than that I'm basically lost. -- Jason Killen Question Stupidity Ma ma's don't let your babies grow up to be Linux hackers Monolith : the new ANSI standard for humans PGP fingerprint = 64 71 48 14 31 AE C6 70 E4 4F 64 EB 3B AA 00 6B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trolltech changing license for QT?
They don't seem to be changing the license. It's free software only when used with X. That was the story before. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
nntpcache?
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Re: using shadow
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Jason Killen wrote: I know that /etc/passwd must be readable by world but if shadow passwording is used can /etc/shadow be set to only read/write by root. How do I setup shadowing, I know there is the libpam package but other than that I'm basically lost. The next Debian release (1.3) will include shadow. You can download the needed packages from that distribution (frozen). Those packages are login and passwd. You will also need libc5 (= 5.4.0). After installing type `shadowconfig on'. -- Nicolás Lichtmaier.- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trolltech changing license for QT?
On Apr 13, Bruce Perens wrote : They don't seem to be changing the license. It's free software only when : used with X. That was the story before. : Nevertheless I filed it to non-free. (qt-1.2 is out and will be uploaded today.) Heiko -- email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp : A1 7D F6 7B 69 73 48 35 E1 DE 21 A7 A8 9A 77 92 finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpsOi99IqiMH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Frontpage and Linux Page
Hi All. Due to my frustrations getting the Frontpage Server Extensions working under Linux I have put up a page which goes through the steps I went through to get it to work. It does *not* detail the security implications of installing the extensions but M$'s document is not bad on this subject and if you install it the way I describe the security risks are minimal (from what I've read). I'll be happy to answer what questions I can. The page can be found at the address below and any comments are appreciated. http://larry.earthlight.co.nz/frontpage.html Adam. - Earthlight Communications Limited P.O. Box 5301 Adam Shand (fax) +64 3 477 5463 Dunedin, New Zealand Systems Manager(voice) +64 3 479 0303 http://www.earthlight.co.nz/larry/
Re: using shadow
On Apr 13, Jason Killen wrote I know that /etc/passwd must be readable by world but if shadow passwording is used can /etc/shadow be set to only read/write by root. How do I setup shadowing, I know there is the libpam package but other than that I'm basically lost. Start FTP and fetch those files: /debian/bo/source/base/shadow_* If you cannot find its binaries, then recompile it. The installation routine will convert your old passwords. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
lprng problem
I decided to set up my printer on my Linux box so I installed lprng (3.2.1-1) and apsfilter (4.9.1-10) and installation seemed to go without a hitch. But I can't print. Looking at the log in /var/spool/lpd/bj200-letter-auto-color reveals entries like the following: tail: -d/var/spool/lpd/bj200-letter-auto-color/lock: No such file or directory [Total: 1 page on 1 sheet] Needless to say there _is_ a file by that name in that location. Its permissions are 0600 owned by lp and group lp. Is there something I'm missing here or is this a misleading error message? -- Jaldhar
Re: ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v11)
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: Why does your page still have this comment: (There once was an official logo with a baby gnu on it (see above), but it has been dropped with the separation of Debian and the FSF.) We kissed and made up long ago. Below I've quoted this page: http://www.debian.org/cooperation.html Even if our relationship is such that it isn't appropriate to use a baby gnu, the statement is misleading. I don't see anything misleading about it. There doesn't require an animosity for a logo to change. For instance, I work in a division of a company that will at some point probably go public and thus become its own company. At that time we'll have to change our logo and name. -douglas
Re: dselect replacement project (deity)y
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, P.A.M. van Dam wrote: It would be really nice to have some highlever package order, like some commercial UNIX vendors have. For example one might have the choice to install everything as it suits himself or choose some highlevel packages like a KDE environment using Dutch locales or a OpenLook environent or just good old non-graphic install. It makes it much easier for newbies. We need some hierarchy in the package structures. I very much agree with this. Redhat has something like this. While I don't agree with their package choices for the various setups, the concept is sound. You would think this would be configured as the interface to dselect is redesigned. (which I'm very glad is happening!) -douglas
Official CD?
Will there be an Official Debian GNU/Linux CD-ROM image? http://www.debian.org/vendors.html says: There is no official Debian GNU/Linux CD-ROM. The core distribution is freely redistributable (for commercial purposes too), which makes it very easy to make Debian CD-ROMs. Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t You tell me and we'll both know.
Re: Official CD?
On Apr 14, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote Will there be an Official Debian GNU/Linux CD-ROM image? What do you expect from such an image? Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Re: Official CD?
Martin == Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Apr 14, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote Will there be an Official Debian GNU/Linux CD-ROM image? What do you expect from such an image? I remember seeing an announcement from (?) Bruce Perens saying that there would be an official Debian CD this time. I'm not planning to press one; I am just a student, and don't have the time to go out and sell Linux CD's. A friend of mine has a CD burner though, and maybe we'd make one just to learn how. I want to convince Internet Arena to burn the red hat and switch on the Debian. I would expect... A CD I can install from with only one floppy to boot with. (I guess there are CD drives you can boot from now too.) Everything needed to get a usable Linux workstation up and on the net, with documantation put right in my face so I don't have to ask where to find it. And I don't need a progress meter to keep me mesmerized while it installs; or christmas presents to cLicK oN. I want something to read. Since the CD can host the documentation, why not fire up Lynx or Info on a second tty, (on request, via a menu selection) so I can read while I wait for Diety to fatten my hard drives? (Info is considered better since the documents are preformatted, right?) Maybe there will be two CD's, one for binaries, and another for sources. And ready-made images too... we're amateurs. Show us how, we are willing to learn. Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t You tell me and we'll both know.
Re: cua /ttys
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Kevin J Poorman wrote: hi Ok I have heard from one source that the cua* devices are being kept up... and from this list that the cua* devices are not being kept up... and that we should use the ttyS* devices ... and comments ... -kevin I think this matter is covered fairly well in the Serial-HOWTO in /usr/doc/HOWTO - well, it convinced me that /dev/ttyS* should be used in ALL cases. Ed
Error installing wu-ftp
When I run addftpuser as part of installing the current Debian wu-ftpd package wu-ftpd_2_4-27.deb I get the eror Addftpuser: broken symbolic link. Invalid argument st /usr/sbin/addftpuser line 232. It turns out this means 'ls' is not set up for anonymous ftp. As a result, users cannot see the files when they ftp in anonymously. Any hints would be appreciated. I reran it every which way to no avail. Thanks, Don
Re: bi
Jason Costomiris writes: Jason I get calls from users all the time asking How do I search Jason and replace in my file? 9 times out of 10, they are using Jason pico, which has to be the most brain dead editor ever Jason created. I always tell them, use vi, [...] Well, vi is not the only choice. If they're using X, why don't you tell them to use xedit? It's about as braindead as pico but can do search and replace, so it should be very easy to use. Then, there's nedit which has a nice Motif feel to it so Windoze users will love it instantly. For my part, I use Emacs and I think that simple things are easy to do in Emacs so Emacs isn't unsuited for beginners at all. kai -- Two caf\'e au lait please, but without milk. (American tourist in paris.)
How to delete special files on msdos partition?
Hi! I found that I can't delete special (i.e. hidden/system/readonly) files on a mounted msdos partition, even as root. I tried to change the permissions with chmod, but that didn't help either. Am I overlooking something obvious? Thanks a lot, Andy. PS: It's Debian-Linux 1.2.4 on a PC-based machine. Andy Spiegl, PhD Student, Technical University, Muenchen, Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.appl-math.tu-muenchen.de/~spiegl
Re: vi
Craig Sanders writes: vi: Craig 1G # move to start of file Craig /192.168.1 # search for 192.168.1 Craig 5cw192.168.200ESC # change 5 'words' to 192.168.2 Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig :x # save and exit emacs: M- ; go to beginning of file C-x ( ; start recording kbd macro C-s 129.168.1 RET ; search for 192.168.1 M-b M-b M-b ; go back three words M-d M-d M-d ; delete three words 129.168.200 ; insert new string C-x ) ; end kbd macro C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat Nothing to do with modeless. kai -- Two caf\'e au lait please, but without milk. (American tourist in paris.)
modutils and recent kernels
A warning to everyone trying to run new kernels: the current modutils implementation does not work with the latest kernel recent. For the stable kernels everything up to and including 2.0.29 seems to work fine. 2.0.30 however does not work. For the 2.1 series there is a new modutils snapshot (source only). This snapshot is not stable enough for a public release however. For the adventerious people among us: you can find the snapshot at ftp.redhat.com in the directory /pub/alphabits. So please stop sending in bugreports on this since the problem is known. We just have to wait until the kernel-folks stabilize the modules interface. Wichert.
How to mount 64 mount point
Hi, My kernel keeps giving errors when mount point exceeds 64. Is it limitation? Or is there any method to allow mounting more than 64 file systems (including nfs)? Thanks for any assistance. -- Eko Fajar N. Kyushu Univ. Japan
Re: ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v11)
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Douglas L Stewart wrote: Why does your page still have this comment: (There once was an official logo with a baby gnu on it (see above), but it has been dropped with the separation of Debian and the FSF.) We kissed and made up long ago. Below I've quoted this page: http://www.debian.org/cooperation.html Even if our relationship is such that it isn't appropriate to use a baby gnu, the statement is misleading. I don't see anything misleading about it. There doesn't require an animosity for a logo to change. For instance, I work in a division of a company that will at some point probably go public and thus become its own company. At that time we'll have to change our logo and name. In the current stat of cooperation, it seems that the reason for _not_ using the baby gnu logo has nothing to due with the separation. As Bruce (sort of) said, the reason could be stated as: we wanted our own logo no need to use theirs because we're a stand-alone entity etc. This fits your example. The statement as it is screams un-cooperation to me. This is a simple issue. Let's not get carried away like the editor thread! ...RickM...
sendmail compiled with -DTCPWRAPPERS?
Is the sendmail 8.8.5 package from rex-fixed compiled with -DTCPWRAPPERS? I've been toying with augmenting my rules with some tcp_wrappers action I was hoping to be able to leave the packages intact, that is, not recompiling and replacing stuff not in /usr/local. Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy My employers like me, but not| and genius. We aim to erase that line enough to let me speak for them. | --Unknown http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom
Re: X-Windows
On 13 Apr 1997, Rob Browning wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim O'Brien) writes: ... ... Is this at all the kind of info you wanted? Feel free to ask more questions, but we should probably continue in private email. -- Rob Well, I would be glad to hear those info too. So maybe you could continue on the mailing list (or at least send a copy to me, but other guys on the list may be interested). Thank you in advance. Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You can use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for messages not coming from any kind of robot, such as mailing lists. From that address some autoresponse messages may return when I'm not at home. ---
pppd won't reset (or hang up) the modem
Hi, I don' think this came up before. My ISP changed to a pap style authorization and the only thigs I had to change was to add a 'user guest' line to the /etc/ppp.options_out file and a line '* * password' to the /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file. Now the modem does not hang up if SIGINT is sent to pppd (it worked before). Is this a problem on my side or the ISP side? I tried to manually reset the modem (or hang up) so that I can stick this command into a disconnect script, to no avail, what am I doing incorrectly? I tried: [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo ATZ /dev/ttyS1 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo ATH /dev/ttyS1 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo -e '+++\nATH' /dev/ttyS1 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] chat '' 'ATZ' none of these reset the modem. If I enter minicom, for example, it has no problem reseting the modem. thanks for your help, -alex
deity mailing list
greetings. on comp.os.linux.misc i heard mention of a project underway to replace deselect with a program called `diety' in the upcoming debian 2.0 release. the poster also mentioned a mailing list to discuss to new program and its development. however, upon browsing www.debian.org i couldn't find any mention of the new list. could someone point me in the right direction and/or perhaps validate the claims made by the poster in c.o.l.m? thanks.
Re: deity mailing list
On Apr 14, Ryan Shaw wrote the poster also mentioned a mailing list to discuss to new program and its development. however, upon browsing www.debian.org i couldn't find any mention of the new list. could someone point me in the right direction and/or perhaps validate the claims made by the poster in c.o.l.m? send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you'll receive list of valid adresses - containing deite I suppose. Regards, Joey -- Individual Network e.V._/OrgaTech KG i.Gr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geschaeftszeit: Di+Mi+Fr, 15-18 Uhr _/Tel: (0441) 9808556
Re: dselect replacement project (deity)y
I'm new to Debian, so please tell me if newbie opinions are not welcome. I think that after spending possibly half an hour or an hour selecting packages it would be very nice to have the chance to _save_ the desired state (installed/not installed/...?) of each package to a file, which we could put to floppy and _read_ in case later we decide to restart from scratch. There should be put enough info (package name and version and ...?) for the install procedure to be able to warn in case the file is used with a different suite of packages, e.g. a wider suite with new entries for which we didn't make any decision (but what if just packages of NEW version with different dependencies have come? to simplify we could decide this is misuse and link the file to the suite of packages for which it was saved [the Debian release number?]). Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You can use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for messages not coming from any kind of robot, such as mailing lists. From that address some autoresponse messages may return when I'm not at home. --- On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Douglas L Stewart wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, P.A.M. van Dam wrote: It would be really nice to have some highlever package order, like some commercial UNIX vendors have. For example one might have the choice to install everything as it suits himself or choose some highlevel packages like a KDE environment using Dutch locales or a OpenLook environent or just good old non-graphic install. It makes it much easier for newbies. We need some hierarchy in the package structures. I very much agree with this. Redhat has something like this. While I don't agree with their package choices for the various setups, the concept is sound. You would think this would be configured as the interface to dselect is redesigned. (which I'm very glad is happening!) -douglas
Re: How to mount 64 mount point
There is a define that you need to increase to allow more than 64 mount points. We have run into this problem as well. Change NR_SUPER in include/linux/fs.h to increase this. I use 128... On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Eko Fajar Nurprasetyo wrote: Hi, My kernel keeps giving errors when mount point exceeds 64. Is it limitation? Or is there any method to allow mounting more than 64 file systems (including nfs)? Thanks for any assistance. -- Eko Fajar N. Kyushu Univ. Japan
dselect deity and debian in the lab
Hello, I'd like to suggest that the deity team take into consideration the open problem of installing and maintaining packages accross NFS-mounted volumes (see the recent thread debian in the lab in this list). I believe that making deity NFS-aware will take the debian packaging system one further step ahead of competition! Cheers, -- Pedro I. Sanchez Product Manager CTI Datacom Inc. 514.683.6363 x31
Re: dselect replacement project (deity)y
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, P.A.M. van Dam wrote: This is the real issue. If you could select the 'high level' groups and only deal with the components if you want the option it would be fine. But if I select a group I want it to mean 'install what it takes to make this work', not 'tell me about some other things I need to do first in some unknown order'. It would be really nice to have some highlever package order, like some commercial UNIX vendors have. For example one might have the choice to install everything as it suits himself or choose some highlevel packages like a KDE environment using Dutch locales or a OpenLook environent or just good old non-graphic install. It makes it much easier for newbies. We need some hierarchy in the package structures. Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, Pascal I'm sorry to be dogmatic, but I'm going to say one more time that I like things the way they are. If something depends on seperately maintained library xyz it is not good but *GREAT* to know about it from the start. The dependency structure sends this message to users load and clear, in a way that a lumped package scheme would not even if a full description of all dependencies were given when such a package was installed. I really had no clue about the high level of software interdependence when I started with slackware, and it hurt me continually. I think a little pain with dselect in the beginning would have saved me a lot of grief later. Lets give a more understandable dselect a chance. It could be made infinitely more comprehensible. Am I right in thinking that when one package you include during a 'dependence session' requires another package, you get a new sort of recursive dependence session? I feel that I shouldn't really have to be confused about this sort of thing. __ I like six eggs when starting on a journey. Fried - not poached. And mind you don't break 'em. I won't eat a broken egg. -- Thorin Oakenshield
Re: Install report, finally
On Apr 14, Alexander Koch wrote 6. File dependencies, some need tcl 42, some only tcl40 but not tcl42 ... Could you check this out for every individual package and file a bugreport against it? 11. I have a CDROM on which is non-free and non-us so there IS pgp in, though I was not getting offered to install it the first time I choose access through CD though it's shown that there IS non-free and non-us ... AFAIK dselect is only looking in stable/unstable, non-free, contrib and local to find its packages. non-us or what it is called on your cdrom isn't stated. (but it's a good idea to put it under local on my cdroms) - Is anyone living in Munich, Germany, willing to help me out? So far I'm not able (IMO) to work it all out myself, since this is my first debian installation... You could try to reach me and other debian supporter via Efnet IRC on #LinuxGER or a bunch of maintainers on Undernet IRC on #Debian. Efnet: irc.fu-berlin.de irc.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Undernet: de.undernet.org us.undernet.org Regards, Joey -- Individual Network e.V._/OrgaTech KG i.Gr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geschaeftszeit: Di+Mi+Fr, 15-18 Uhr _/Tel: (0441) 9808556
Netscape/Lynx long startup time - why?
Why does it take so long for Netscape or Lynx to start? -- Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t You tell me and we'll both know.
Re: Netscape/Lynx long startup time - why?
Herve == Herve FLOCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why does it take so long for Netscape or Lynx to start? Is your DNS working correctly, is it as long if you ask for an address with nslookup ??? Netscape takes time to start because of its size but lynx should start immediatly nslookup is almost instant. Could it be the MIME files being parsed? -- Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t You tell me and we'll both know.
Re: pppd won't reset (or hang up) the modem
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Hi, I don' think this came up before. My ISP changed to a pap style authorization and the only thigs I had to change was to add a 'user guest' line to the /etc/ppp.options_out file and a line '* * password' to the /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file. Now the modem does not hang up if SIGINT is sent to pppd (it worked before). Is this a problem on my side or the ISP side? ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] chat '' 'ATZ' Try `chat '' +++ OK ATZ perhaps?` Check that you have modem in your ppp options file, that's the usual cause. Dimitri emaziuk @ curtin.edu.au --- What color is a chameleon on a mirror? ( Zen koan )
Re: deity mailing list
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Martin Schulze wrote: On Apr 14, Ryan Shaw wrote the poster also mentioned a mailing list to discuss to new program and its development. however, upon browsing www.debian.org i couldn't find any mention of the new list. could someone point me in the right direction and/or perhaps validate the claims made by the poster in c.o.l.m? send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you'll receive list of valid adresses - containing deite I suppose. That mailing list exists for the members of the deity team. Other debian users are welcome to post to it, but it is not open for subscription. We should be hearing about progress on the project from Brian White, who is leading that project. Pete -- Pete Templin, Debian List Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EXMH question
- Hi all, I'va an annoying problem with exmh: it won't sign my messages. After I change path to .signature in Preferences it [usually, but not always] complains about bogus execute permission on .signature once, and then just silently refuses to sign e-mail. I've played with .signature's permissions (file's created by sigrot, BTW), exmh settings and currently I'm out of ideas. ( My other messages to the list are .signed -- with More + Insert file. ) Suggestions, anyone? Dimitri
less in an xterm
Something I've wondered about for a long time (ever since I first installed Debian 1.1), and thought I'd finally ask... When I run less in an xterm, it seems to save the image of whatever is in the window, display whatever it's displaying, and then restore the image. On the Linux console, when I exit less, I get just the shell prompt on the bottom of the screen, and not whatever was on the screen when I ran less. I'm used to and like the console behaviour more. Is there a way to get the same behaviour in an xterm? The same happens with anything that runs less, like man. The behaviour in an xterm is, to me, especially annoying with man pages, since I'm used to doing a man command, quitting the pager keeping the top of the man page on the screen, and then using the Synopsis on the man page to formulate my command at the shell prompt. This seems to be somewhat of a `Debian feature', since I haven't seen it on Slackware systems. I think it has to do with the terminfo entry for xterm (Slackware's less uses termcap, AFAIK), but I'm not sure. -- -=- Rjs -=- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape/Lynx long startup time - why?
Why does it take so long for Netscape or Lynx to start? It takes forever because they both read the entire file and run every single test condition they encounter. The latest mime-support (2.12) will work much better with lynx since it tries to use tests that lynx can recognize internally without forking an external process. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- the difference between theory and practice is less in theory than in practice
Re: less in an xterm
When I run less in an xterm, it seems to save the image of whatever is in the window, display whatever it's displaying, and then restore the image. On the Linux console, when I exit less, I get just the shell prompt on the bottom of the screen, and not whatever was on the screen when I ran less. I'm used to and like the console behaviour more. Is there a way to get the same behaviour in an xterm? You just have to use less -X. Or better, put -X in the environment variable called LESS, so that less never restores the display. -- Michel Beland [EMAIL PROTECTED] professionnel de recherchetel: (514)369-5223 fax: (514)369-3880 CERCA (CEntre de Recherche en Calcul Applique) 5160, boul. Decarie, bureau 400(423), Montreal (Quebec), Canada, H3X 2H9
New Mainboard...
Hello, i am searching for an new mainboard. I thought of an Asus TX97 (Baby-AT). It has an Intel 430TX Chipset and there should be 32 MB S-DRAM (DIMM) on it. Are there any problems to expect with Linux (Debian)? (Kernel is 2.0.27) Kind regardsbjs
re: Sun Java WorkShop on Debian' experience anyone?
Hi: The specific 'editor freeze' problem that you have can be bypassed by turning off 'version control' in the jws preferences. The above was gleaned from http://httwww.blackdown.org. ml Benedikt wrote: does anyone out there have any experience running the Sun jws on a Debian GNU/Linux system. On my system the jws freezes completely when I try to use the jws source editor. Does anyone know of a fix? Or - if you got the jws running, can you tell me, which jdk you're using? -- Michael Laing, President _|_|_|_| _|_| _| _|_|_| Foster Laing Noonan, Inc. _|_|_|_|_|_| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 207.832.6372_|_|_|_|_| _| _|_| Internet Software Developers _|_|_|_|_|_| _and Consultants__|_|_|_|_| _| _| _|_|_|
Re: deity mailing list
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Martin Schulze wrote: On Apr 14, Ryan Shaw wrote the poster also mentioned a mailing list to discuss to new program and its development. however, upon browsing www.debian.org i couldn't find any mention of the new list. could someone point me in the right direction and/or perhaps validate the claims made by the poster in c.o.l.m? send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you'll receive list of valid adresses - containing deite I suppose. Probably not, Brian has decided that all general chatter about Deity should happen on Debian-devel, deity is for the project members to more easially communicate with each other. This might change, but for now that is how it is. Jason
routing setup question
Hi there, I've got a problem setting up routing for two linux boxes connected to the Internet. The setup used to be like this: ISP My systems lisa.thenet.ch icemark.thenet.ch firefranc ppp0193.135.252.75 193.135.252.47 eth0192.168.101.1 192.168.101.2 My systems are connected to each other using a fast ethernet link (3com 3c905TX cards), one of the two systems (icemark) is connected to the Internet via a ppp link. In that setup, firefranc can't access the Internet itself, but only by using proxy services on icemark. The new setup should look like: ISP My systems lisa.thenet.ch icemark.thenet.ch firefranc.thenet.ch --- ppp0 --- --- eth0 --- 193.135.252.75 193.135.252.47 193.135.252.179 The firefranc should get a full link onto the Internet, but how do I have to set up the routing to make this work? I tried binding both ppp0 eth0 on icemark to the same IP address and setting icemark's default route to lisa and setting a host route to firefranc. firefranc got a default route to icemark. The result is, that firefranc can access icemark and vice versa, and icemark can access the Internet and vice versa. But I can't get firefranc to get through to the Internet (also giving icemark as the gateway for firefranc's default route didn't help). I am not too knowledgable in IP routing, so I guess the mistake a made is probably pretty stupid - nevertheless, I'd like to know what's wrong and how to fix it... Any ideas? Benedikt signoff --- Benedikt Eric Heinen - Muehlemattstrasse 53 - CH3007 Bern - SWITZERLAND email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New dselect project
I'm sorry to be dogmatic, but I'm going to say one more time that I like things the way they are. If something depends on seperately maintained library xyz it is not good but *GREAT* to know about it from the start. The dependency structure sends this message to users load and clear, in a way that a lumped package scheme would not even if a full description of all dependencies were given when such a package was installed. I really had no clue about the high level of software interdependence when I started with slackware, and it hurt me continually. I think a little pain with dselect in the beginning would have saved me a lot of grief later. There are users that just want to have some toplevel packages installed. Ie. they want to have KDE + plus lyx for wordprocessing. So they just select a wordprocessing environment using a Graphics Environment. They don't want to be bothered from the start that they need some special version of Latex with fonts 'bla' and 'blo' and have the Xforms library installed. Also, If they choose for dutch locales, isn't it a logical choice you also install a dutch dict./wordlist and a dutch release of the babel pkg.? I agree with you in the fact we should not hide it if we want to see it. For myself, I want to finetune it. But I also want to be able to go back to some state that is preconfigured, most likely to work. Things should be more hierarchical more OO. Lets give a more understandable dselect a chance. It could be made infinitely more comprehensible. Am I right in thinking that when one package you include during a 'dependence session' requires another package, you get a new sort of recursive dependence session? I feel that I shouldn't really have to be confused about this sort of thing. Back to my dutch KDE example. Say I want this real neat-o cool KDE graphics environment with dutch locales which is a standard preset option, and I decide I want to have ya old openlook olwm environment too, with other libs etc. It would check the dependencies for all the packages in this toplevel packages. If some dependency could not be fullfilled, just because portions of toplevel packages (lets call them software sets from now on) bite eachother should leave you to the choice of either resolving the breaks yourself by manually picking the right combinations and replace the biting ones, or just abandoning this toplevel choice, sorry it's too much hassle for now. Hope this makes it clear... ;) Best regards, Pascal -- Thorin Oakenshield - End of forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
problem: client/server file sharing
I am running debian Linux on a two machine lab... One server, one client. I installed the nis, netbase, and netstd packages, and followed nis.debian.howto to set up my net. However, when I add users to the master machine, the client does not recognize them as valid users. Is there something I need to do in the etc/passwd file to get the client to recognize the users and passwords? Any help appreciated... Mike Devine Eastern Washington University
Using ELF-files
May be this sounds stupid, but how can I run/install ELF-files. Or should I better ask: What should I do with ELF-files? I have downloaded some version of kermit, with the filename ending in _ELF. I didn't think about the meaning of this until I tried to run/install the program. Now I have this ELF file an don't know how to use it... Thanks for any hint. Christoph New adress: Christoph Haug Schlichterstr. 28 65185 Wiesbaden Germany Tel. + 49 611 374709 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.uni-mainz.de/~haugc000/ (Sorry, Homepage only in German yet...)
Re: routing setup question
Benedikt Eric Heinen wrote: Hi there, I've got a problem setting up routing for two linux boxes connected to the Internet. The setup used to be like this: ISP My systems lisa.thenet.ch icemark.thenet.ch firefranc ppp0193.135.252.75 193.135.252.47 eth0192.168.101.1 192.168.101.2 My systems are connected to each other using a fast ethernet link (3com 3c905TX cards), one of the two systems (icemark) is connected to the Internet via a ppp link. In that setup, firefranc can't access the Internet itself, but only by using proxy services on icemark. The new setup should look like: ISP My systems lisa.thenet.ch icemark.thenet.ch firefranc.thenet.ch --- ppp0 --- --- eth0 --- 193.135.252.75 193.135.252.47 193.135.252.179 The firefranc should get a full link onto the Internet, but how do I have to set up the routing to make this work? I tried binding both ppp0 eth0 on icemark to the same IP address and setting icemark's default route to lisa and setting a host route to firefranc. firefranc got a default route to icemark. The result is, that firefranc can access icemark and vice versa, and icemark can access the Internet and vice versa. But I can't get firefranc to get through to the Internet (also giving icemark as the gateway for firefranc's default route didn't help). I am not too knowledgable in IP routing, so I guess the mistake a made is probably pretty stupid - nevertheless, I'd like to know what's wrong and how to fix it... Well, from the looks of thenet.ch's DNS zone info, you don't own a subnet, but rather just a single IP address. The reason you can't get anything from the internet back to firefranc is that thenet.ch's router isn't routing anything to you but packets destined for 193.135.252.47. If you wan't to have more than one host on your end on the net without using a proxy or IP masquerading, you'll have to negotiate with your ISP to get a subnet. I suggest you check out the IP masquerading HOWTO or take a look at SOCKS. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vi
Kai Grossjohann wrote: Craig Sanders writes: vi looks to be about 1/2 the keystrokes (and no double strikes) and you still haven't exited emacs. I think I'll stick with vi. I also like :!cp % %.970415 vi: Craig 1G # move to start of file Craig /192.168.1 # search for 192.168.1 Craig 5cw192.168.200ESC # change 5 'words' to 192.168.2 Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig :x # save and exit emacs: M- ; go to beginning of file C-x ( ; start recording kbd macro C-s 129.168.1 RET ; search for 192.168.1 M-b M-b M-b ; go back three words M-d M-d M-d ; delete three words 129.168.200 ; insert new string C-x ) ; end kbd macro C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat Nothing to do with modeless. kai -- Two caf\'e au lait please, but without milk. (American tourist in paris.)
Re: problem: client/server file sharing
Michael J Devine wrote: I am running debian Linux on a two machine lab... One server, one client. I installed the nis, netbase, and netstd packages, and followed nis.debian.howto to set up my net. However, when I add users to the master machine, the client does not recognize them as valid users. Is there something I need to do in the etc/passwd file to get the client to recognize the users and passwords? Any help appreciated... Mike Devine Eastern Washington University At the end of your /etc/passwd, put a line with just the '+' character. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem: client/server file sharing
Michael J Devine wrote: I am running debian Linux on a two machine lab... One server, one client. I installed the nis, netbase, and netstd packages, and followed nis.debian.howto to set up my net. However, when I add users to the master machine, the client does not recognize them as valid users. Is there something I need to do in the etc/passwd file to get the client to recognize the users and passwords? Any help appreciated... Mike Devine Eastern Washington University Wait, I lied! The docs say that you don't have to put the '+' line at the end of /etc/passwd. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
