Incorporation and Version Numbering
Hello everyone. I don't want to start up this big thread again in a list it doesn't belong in, but I thought I should write something First, to Dave on the incorporation, I might not agree it is as bad a thing as you think, but I can see where you are coming from. The thing is, though, is that all of "official" developers seem to have been behind it, so the only way to change it now would be to have a big outcry from the users. Maybe this is why you started the thread in the user mailing list? Anyways, the responses to your outcries seemed to range from a few tentative agreements to a lot of total non-agreements. This is definately not what would be needed to undo the incorporation, now that it has already been done. So, I think it is safe to say that there isn't really anything that can be done about it now except for starting a whole new distribution... Some "constructive" critisms like saying that more information on the current structure of the organization should be put on website seemed good to me, and I believe Bruce agreed to do that. I think it is futile at this point to try to do anything about undoing the organization, though. So, while your arguments were interesting in the philisophical and legal standpoint, it is kind of moot now... Now, about the numbering scheme. The main critism from Dave/Paul seems to be not the x.x.x.x versus x.x.x release x, but on if it was catering to the cd companies, especially with that thing where changes were done to the current release without updating the number. Now Dave/Paul claim this is due to the CD-Rom stuff, while Bruce says it was a mistake since the guy usually overseeing the stuff is on vacation. But, personally, I don't think the motives matter at this point for those two updates. What really matters is what is going to happen from NOW ON. Bruce has been saying lately empatically that it was a mistake and won't happen again, so I don't think it can happen again without him getting in major trouble. Now Bruce, this is what I think you should do. Make a web page, maybe in the Latest News section of the site. Say on it that the last two things were a mistake, won't happen again etc., and say EXACTLY what is going to happen now. Yes stuff has been said in the list, but that is kind of fleeting, and can be changed around in memory. A stationary page says "This is the official policy" and it can't be strayed from without officially changing the policy. I'd recommend putting a lot of really clear-cut information. Like if what I heard about the major numbers being put on the cds, and then the release ones being downloaded from the net, then put that down. Also, what would be really nice is like a "simulated timeline". Like what the numbers should be if Debian was released in the following 10 versions. The timeline would start with 1.3.1, then the official numbers for the 2 that were released without updating the version, and then a couple of made-up ones. That would make everything SO much clearer! Something like this: 1.3.1 -- Last one from the "origional" numbering scheme. 1.3 release 2-- Official # for the first "messed up" one. 1.3 release 3-- Official # for the second "messed up" one. 1.4 release 1-- Made up future one. 2.0 -- Made up future one. --- Even with reading everything that I did, I'm not sure if what I just put down is the way you are planing to do the numbering, or if I still have it wrong... (I, and seemingly others on the list, am especially unsure on the official #s of the two that were messed up). I don't mean to sound pushy that you "need" to do that Bruce, but I think it'd be a really good idea. That way you can just point to the page and say THAT is how it will be That way should also pacify some of the critics since if what is on the page looks good, and it is strayed from, then either there has been a mistake again, or they have reason to be angry since the policy has changed without saying anything. Just my $1.50 in change. =) Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.the-spa.com/shawn.fumo/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux in Wired
> Which leads on to the question: which "one of the Windows emulators > available" does Linus Torvalds actually use? Does anyone know? He has contributed to the wine project in the past. WABI and TWIN are fairly new developments, maybe he uses those too. I use wine here to run a solitaire game I can't part with - that's about it. Cheers, - Jim pgpC9DR6qfTEn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mirror Cron job ?
> What is the correct way to set up a mirror cron job that runs daily? > This is what I have done. > Created a file /etc/cron.daily/mirror with this in it: > > #!/bin/sh > > /usr/bin/mirror /etc/mirror/packages/ftp.debian.org > > > Shouldn't this be run as a different user than root? If so how do I set it > up that way? Do I use the crontab command to do this? Yes, just as (ordinary user) do: crontab -e and then add a line like 10 4 * * * $HOME/debian/do_mirror (this will start the cron job at 4:10 every day). where $HOME/debian/do_mirror can look like $ cat $HOME/debian/do_mirror #!/bin/bash date>> $HOME/debian/mirror_results /usr/bin/mirror $HOME/debian/mirror.defaults >> $HOME/debian/mirror_results This way you don't get email about it every day, while you still have a logfile to see what went wrong (if anything). -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Missing /etc/resolv.conf
On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Gonzalo Diethelm wrote: > I just noticed I don't have a resolv.conf file anywhere in the > /etc hierarchy. Is it anywhere else (I doubt it)? Is there a package > I'm missing? I just added bind, thinking that would solve the problem, > but it didn't. just add one yourself. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Patch troubles
I'm not an utter newbie, but I feel like it right now. I have a patch (to support certain hardware) against 2.0.30 that I've successfully applied. Good. But I guess I'm just clueless about how to apply the pre-patch 2.0.31-1 through 2.0.31-7 (to gain support for the LS-120 drive). I've checked the Kernel HowTo, documentation in the kernel sources, directories from which the patches were downloaded, man page for patch, etc., but I the patches don't succeed. Even after a fresh reinstall of the sources, patch repeatedly alerts me that it thinks I'm trying to reapply a patch. So I guess my questions come to this: 1. What is needed to apply the pre-patches mentioned above? 2. Should the patch against 2.0.30 be applied before or after the pre-patches? My thanks to anyone who can help. -- C.L. Daugaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux in Wired
> Brian White wrote: > > There was a decent article about Linux in the latest issue of Wired. It > > was honest and fair, in my opinion, and Linux came out looking really good. > > And it's finally online now at http://.wired.com/wired/5.08/linux.html And in this article is stated: However, Microsoft's huge installed base of users and wide range of applications is unlikely to be surpassed, despite what believers in the Linux magic might hope. Linus has no illusions on the subject and even employs tools like Microsoft's PowerPoint - running on top of Linux via one of the Windows emulators available. The first sentence I heartily support: when you need to get work done you are likely to be forced into running an MS-Win application at some stage and, if you can't run it on Linux, too bad. Which leads on to the question: which "one of the Windows emulators available" does Linus Torvalds actually use? Does anyone know? If it's good enough for him to run PowerPoint on it, it's probably good enough for me and I'd definitely like to know! Best wishes, Ted.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux in Wired
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : There was a decent article about Linux in the latest issue of Wired. It : was honest and fair, in my opinion, and Linux came out looking really good. All right!!! I read the on-line version (referenced by another Debian fellow in this list) and think it is a great article. Another step towards (torvalds?) "world domination" :-) E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Changing mouse buttons in Xterm
How does one change mouse button assignments in Xterm? Is there an initialization file somewhere? I have read the man page, but couldn't figure this out. The default for the paste function for selected text is mouse button # 3, but I only have a 2 button mouse and would like to set the paste function to use button # 2. Thanks, Dave N. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Mirror Cron job ?
What is the correct way to set up a mirror cron job that runs daily? This is what I have done. Created a file /etc/cron.daily/mirror with this in it: #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/mirror /etc/mirror/packages/ftp.debian.org Shouldn't this be run as a different user than root? If so how do I set it up that way? Do I use the crontab command to do this? I appreciate all of the discussion on this list. It is in my mind one of the best resources for learning the many aspects of linux and of the best distribution... Debian. thanks all, - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ftp status under dselect
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Bob wrote: : Is there any way to have dselect show a status during the ftp of selected : files? Something similar to the status indicator that ncftp uses would be : nice. Nope there isn't. At least not right now in the stable tree. Remco -- // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://oloon.student.utwente.nl // " Never make any mistaeks. " -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Q] smail and fetchmail
Hi, >>"G'razel" == G'razel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: G'razel> I got Debian installed and working fine this time around G'razel> (think I had a G'razel> corrupted base files disk) but smail G'razel> and fetchmail aren't working this G'razel> time, fetchamail G'razel> seems to be going out and checking my accounts and G'razel> G'razel> marking the messages read in the ISP's spool but not G'razel> downloading them to G'razel> my machine Could you please run % fetchmail -c -v -c: Just check mail, do not download -v: do it verbosely % fetchmail -a -v -k -a: fetch *all* messages -v: gimme all kinds of status -k: keep a copy on the server in case smail is still messed up. manoj __> fetchmail -c -v fetchmail: 4.0.1 querying datasync.com (protocol POP3) at Wed Aug 27 15:33:06 1997 fetchmail: POP3< +OK Cubic Circle's v1.14 1997/04/11 POP3 ready <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> fetchmail: POP3> USER srivasta fetchmail: POP3< +OK srivasta selected fetchmail: POP3> PASS * fetchmail: POP3< +OK Congratulations! fetchmail: selecting default folder fetchmail: POP3> STAT fetchmail: POP3< +OK 4 11671 fetchmail: POP3> LAST fetchmail: POP3< -ERR Invalid command, try one of: STAT, LIST [msg], RETR msg, TOP msg n, DELE msg, UIDL [msg], NOOP, RSET, QUIT fetchmail: POP3> UIDL fetchmail: POP3< +OK But remember to DELETE messages REGULARLY fetchmail: POP3< 1 bf02823f3109 fetchmail: POP3< 2 5ba630c6030f fetchmail: POP3< 3 d431e1e93b05 fetchmail: POP3< 4 a6ff86042810 fetchmail: POP3< . fetchmail: 4 messages at [EMAIL PROTECTED] fetchmail: normal termination, status 0 -- I complain often about my old age. Now I have stopped complaining because I can't get old anymore, the process is finished. Paul Erdos Manoj Srivastava mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mobile, Alabama USAhttp://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux in Wired
Brian White wrote: > There was a decent article about Linux in the latest issue of Wired. It > was honest and fair, in my opinion, and Linux came out looking really good. And it's finally online now at http://.wired.com/wired/5.08/linux.html -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Off-topic - tcpload
> > > I have need for something to show me the load on an interface and so far I > > > have not been able to find anything. tcpview looks promising but there is > > > no binary. Any ideas? I'm interested in both eth0 and ppp0 interfaces. > > > > Is netdiag the package you are looking for? > > /usr/sbin/statnet > > /usr/sbin/trafshow > > /usr/sbin/netwatch > > /usr/bin/netload > > Another possibility - procmeter (an X program) can show some graphs of how > loaded ppp0, eth0, etc. are. It can also show things like collisions, and it > can show separate graphs for number of packets sent and number of packets > received. And if you want to make a graph of load over time - the mrtg package can do that for you (using snmp and HTML). There was an article in Linux Journal about it. Cheers, - Jim pgpcDGK4R8OlM.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Q] smail and fetchmail
I got Debian installed and working fine this time around (think I had a corrupted base files disk) but smail and fetchmail aren't working this time, fetchamail seems to be going out and checking my accounts and marking the messages read in the ISP's spool but not downloading them to my machine -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Off-topic - tcpload
joost witteveen wrote: > > I have need for something to show me the load on an interface and so far I > > have not been able to find anything. tcpview looks promising but there is > > no binary. Any ideas? I'm interested in both eth0 and ppp0 interfaces. > > Is netdiag the package you are looking for? > /usr/sbin/statnet > /usr/sbin/trafshow > /usr/sbin/netwatch > /usr/bin/netload Another possibility - procmeter (an X program) can show some graphs of how loaded ppp0, eth0, etc. are. It can also show things like collisions, and it can show separate graphs for number of packets sent and number of packets received. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I2O article
Excuse my ignoramce, but what is I2O ? Alfonso. -- Alfonso E. Urdaneta VOX: 407.729.3840 Harris Corp/Transcomm Division FAX: 407.729.1962 PO Box 5100, MS 6B.3827mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Melbourne, FL 32902.5100 http://www.transcomm.ess.harris.com The Harris Corporation agrees with everything I say. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I2O article
>> >Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o, >> >someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document >> >(about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. Wired News published >> >the URL, and thousands of people downloaded copies of the i2o standard >> >before the i2o group removed it from the server. > >> Wonder how many of them said "DOH" and slapped their forehead in a most >> Homer-like fashion? > >Or, was it a deliberate leak? I can easily picture a decision to "accidentally" place it there until someone had to "officially" notice the "mistake." Think of how much quieter (sp???) certain groups ( like us) will be . . . Interesting theory. Very plausible. Later, Kevin Traas Baan Business Systems Systems Analyst Langley, BC, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] (604) 882-8169 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Off-topic - tcpload
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 27, 1997 at 07:44:35PM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote: > > And another question - how many hosts can one have on a single thin > > ethernet cable? > > AFAIK, the specs are about 30 connections, and 180 metres > (300 foot) maximum length. to be accurate, 185 metres. lawrence -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I2O article
> >Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o, > >someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document > >(about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. Wired News published > >the URL, and thousands of people downloaded copies of the i2o standard > >before the i2o group removed it from the server. > Wonder how many of them said "DOH" and slapped their forehead in a most > Homer-like fashion? Or, was it a deliberate leak? I can easily picture a decision to "accidentally" place it there until someone had to "officially" notice the "mistake." Think of how much quieter (sp???) certain groups ( like us) will be . . . rick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Missing /etc/resolv.conf
Try making your own by (as root): 1. touch /etc/resolv.conf 2. edit /etc/resolv.conf to add your dns nameserver The file should look like: search . nameserver 123.123.123.123 123.123.123.123 would be your domain nameserver numerical address. Cheers, -- Victor Torrico -- Wildflower Hill, Head Waters, Virginia -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Missing /etc/resolv.conf
On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Gonzalo Diethelm wrote: > I just noticed I don't have a resolv.conf file anywhere in the > /etc hierarchy. Is it anywhere else (I doubt it)? Is there a package > I'm missing? I just added bind, thinking that would solve the problem, > but it didn't. > I believe that resolv.conf is created by the installation software when you "Configure the Network". If you avoided that section during the installation, (and easy thing to do) then you can reboot the rescue disk, use the installation menu to mount a swap and root partition and then choose "Configure the Network" and be sure to specify a name server. This will create the resolv.conf file you are looking for. You could also just create it by hand, using your favorite editor. Mine looks like: search polaris.net nameserver 199.44.34.11 nameserver 199.44.34.2 Your entries will, of course, be different than mine. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Off-topic - tcpload
On Wed, Aug 27, 1997 at 07:44:35PM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote: > And another question - how many hosts can one have on a single thin > ethernet cable? AFAIK, the specs are about 30 connections, and 180 metres (300 foot) maximum length. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 53% Your train has been cancelled due to defective government at Spring Street.. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CDROM death
Bob Nielsen wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Carl Flippin wrote: > > > Every time I try to access my cdrom under any distribution of Linux, > > the entire system goes into limbo. My drive is connected to a PAS 16 > > and it appears that autoprobe is finding it since the light on the > > drive flashes. The drive is a Toshiba 2x. Has anyone heard of this > > problem before? Do I need to get a new CDROM drive? > > I would strongly recommend that you compile the appropriate non-IDE driver > into your kernel and avoid autoprobing. I had many problems with > autoprobing a Creative Labs CD-ROM. My matshushita cdrom got really fried after being probed as a mitsumi. After that, many parts in the computer started to warm up dangerously and I took the drive out before it could do any more damage. Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
XDM
Hi all! A few days ago I tried to upgrade my Debian 1.2 -> 1.3.1 (According to Linux System Labs). As a matter of fact, I just upgraded some of the packages. Among theses, I upgraded X11, thinking that I was taking care of everything... I upgraded xbase and xserver_s3 and all other X related stuff, run shadowconfig on; shadowconfig off (I didn't want shadow passwds) and, til what I saw, all config files had remained unchanged... (or moved to *.old, what meant nothing, once diff showed that they were equal). I reboot the system to see what happened and !!! XDM hangs !!! I simply can't login. Well, after a while, I was able to login (not via XDM) and I tried to figure out what that was (with no success). The only different thing I saw was that /etc/xdm as calling xdm-shadow, and so I moved it back to cal xdm. By the way, I can only login in text mode! Well, I sorry if it has already been discussed in here, but all I have seen around was something about shadowconfig on and off (or only on), and all would be nice... Any help is VERY, VERY much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Daniel. __ Daniel Doro Ferranteemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Administratorhttp://www.cecm.usp.br/~danieldf CECM - Curso Experimental de Ciencias Moleculares - USP Experimental Course of Molecular Sciences - University of Sao Paulo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Printing - text works, ps doesn't
I'm trying to print postscript files over samba.. When I print from StarOffice 3.1 I get this error message in the print error file: /usr/sbin/dj550c-filter: /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 - sDEVICE=cdj550 -sOutputFile=- - failed It works perfectly if I type 'lpr -Plp filename' ... I've attached my printcap & filter file (samba filter). -Paul # # Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. # All rights reserved. # # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted # provided that this notice is preserved and that due credit is given # to the University of California at Berkeley. The name of the University # may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this # software without specific prior written permission. This software # is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. # # @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88 # # > This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. < # #lp|hp660c|HP Deskjet 660C:\ # :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp660c:\ # :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ # :if=/usr/sbin/dj550c-filter:\ # :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: lp|hp_dj660c|HP Deskjet 660C:\ :cm=HP Deskjet 660C:\ :lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/smb/hp_dj660c:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/smb/hp_dj660c/acct:lf=/var/spool/lpd/smb/hp_dj660c/errs:\ :if=/usr/local/sbin/hp_dj660c: #!/bin/sh /usr/sbin/dj550c-filter $* | ( logfile=/tmp/smb-print.log # logfile=/dev/null eval acct_file=\$$# spool_dir=`dirname $acct_file` config_file=$spool_dir/.config eval `cat $config_file` echo "server $server, service $service" >> $logfile ( # NOTE You may wish to add the line `echo translate' if you want automatic # CR/LF translation when printing. #echo translate echo "print -" cat ) | /usr/bin/smbclient "$server\\$service" $password -U $server -N -P >> $logfile )
Missing /etc/resolv.conf
I just noticed I don't have a resolv.conf file anywhere in the /etc hierarchy. Is it anywhere else (I doubt it)? Is there a package I'm missing? I just added bind, thinking that would solve the problem, but it didn't. -- Gonzalo A. Diethelm G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
finding systeminfo.h
Hi Folks, sorry for my last email it got screwed up some how. I have the latest source for speakfreely 6.1c and I am trying to compile it. [root:/usr/src/speak_freely-6.1c:]$make cc -fsingle -O -Iadpcm -Ilpc -Igsm/inc -Imd5 -Iidea -Ilibdes -DInternet_Port=2074 -DHALF_DUPLEX -DSolaris -DTHREADS-c speaker.c -o speaker.o In file included from speaker.c:10: speakfree.h:41: sys/systeminfo.h: No such file or directory make: *** [speaker.o] Error 1 I have the latest versions of cpp and gcc and libc5. can anyone help me please let me know if you need more information. Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem creating custom kernel image
Manoj, Sorry about not including the error message. I was in a hurry and meant to add the error as an attachment. Forgot all about it. When I get home from work, I'll resend the message with the error. Steve Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Steve" == Steve Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Steve> When trying to create a custom kernel image, I am in the middle > > Steve> of the 'make config', right at the point that make splits off > Steve> and tries to set up the configuration script for the sound > Steve> card, and I get 4 parse errors in /usr/include/stdlib.h. > > The error messages should help us help you. As would the > output of : > % dpkg -l libc5 libc6 gcc libc5-dev binutils make bin86 gawk gzip \ >shellutils grep cpp > > These are all the packages that the kernel build process > should depend on. It is difficult to say what is wrong based on the > information available. > > manoj > -- > OF Auxiliary, Mixed, and National Arms The second sort of > unprofitable arms are auxiliaries, by whom I mean, troops brought to > help and protect you by a potentate whom you summon to your aid; > Auxiliaries may be excellent and useful soldiers for themselves, but > are always hurtful to him who calls them in; for if they are > defeated, he is undone, if victorious, he becomes their prisoner. > . . . from Chapter XIII, _The Prince_, by Niccolo Machiavelli, 1513 > Manoj Srivastava mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mobile, Alabama USA > http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Compiling Qpopper
"Bruno" == Bruno O M Simoes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bruno> Hi all; I'm compiling qpopper and everything's fine. But, to Bruno> enable it to recognize shadow, it must to have a shadow Bruno> library. It complains: #ld: cannot open -lshadow: No such file Bruno> or directory What package must I install, or where do I find You need to install libc. :-) Or put another way, the shadow library is built in, so just remove the reference to -lshadow. Same deal if u bomb out on a -lcrypt -- its separate in libc6, but built into libc5. - PGP E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78 63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C __ _Debian GNU Johnie Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mm mm / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __"netgod" irc.debian.org mm mm / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / m m m / /__| | | | | |_| |> < Those who do not understand UNIX mm mm \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ are doomed to repeat it, poorly. GO BLUE -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: sendmail/smail and off-line mail
On Aug 25, 1997, at 12:41, Alexander Stavitsky wrote: > Apparently I have found that sendmail is easier to setup, than smail. > I might be wrong but the horrible sendmail setup stories seem to > originate before the use of m4 macros. I concur. > If you do something standard there are m4 macros written for you so you > don't have to touch sendmail.cf > > I have setup of 8 computers with the central mail spool and I > did not change a single line in sendmail.cf. > I did all the changes in sendmail.mc which consisted of ~10 lines. > I might be wrong but when I tried to do that with smail it would require > editing more than one file with more than 10 lines each. > > For me sendmail was easier than smail. Alexander, could you share with me your sendmail.mc? This is the setup I need, and I decided to switch back to sendmail, so I can administer just one MTA everywhere I work: 1. Local mail gets delivered right away (or as soon as sendmail kicks in). If I send mail from 'usera' to 'userb' (just like that, no domain specification), I want userb to see her mail as coming from 'usera' (no domain). [This last one is a weak requirement, and I could live without it]. 2. Outgoing mail gets queued until I dial up my ISP. At this point, I may want to force its delivery by issuing 'sendmail -q'. If I send mail from 'usera' to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Bruce must see this mail as coming from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (that is, for outgoing mail I wish to masquerade as 'my.isp.site'). 3. I'll fetch incoming mail with fetchmail, which will deliver it to port 25 (SMTP). If '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' sent mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', I would like sendmail to deliver it to usera's local spool file; Bruce's address should be kept intact. I would guess this is a very straightforward and, what's more important, very common, setup. I'm CCing the list so that, if anybody else besides Alexander has any insight, they can share it with others. If this is not a FAQ or a standard option in sendmail's configuration, somebody (I?) should file a "bug/enhancement" report and/or implement it. Of course, if it is already there, I should just shut up. -- Gonzalo A. Diethelm G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Qmail package, where?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Paulo Almeida wrote: > I am looking for the qmail package so that I can install it on a debian > platform. Unfortunately I was unable to find it so far. Can anyone > please tell me where I might find the package. (the complete url would > be appreciated) It is available in your local debian mirror at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/qmail* - -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNAQ6XqCk2fENdzpVAQFBmwP/aNtMJuuLhXdIzdtSHgdGlF80MFhYM9RK VfIXMMfwK9dgZ0x5qJ7CUmu0MlZldysfR3Je+zVDOqrzq9Xf1AsKUlF8wqO/vD3x DspzRzqkz9QayCP8iTC4kjg+xUrYeHkNU17OT4/NqsKPgaMnNoafs693gsLThUgn wwLS7o+XYxQ= =MoZH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Sparc Debian?
"Michael" == Michael Solomani Mifsud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Does Debian make a version of Linux (UNiX?) for sparc Michael> machines? If so, what kind of preformance comparison between Michael> solaris 2.5 and SunOS? Thanks. Funny you should ask -- I just installed it the other day. The Sparc version is still under development, but I did manage to get it to work. In fact I put it on a mission-critical production system, with some 1500 users, and most never noticed a change. I had great faith in Linux and Debian, obviously, from long experience. :-) Before this it ran the venerable SunOS 4.1.3; I can't compare it to the newer Solaris. But after running it for two days in a less-than-ideal configuration, it seems comparable. There were some problems at first with it running out of memory until I added a 64MB swapfile to the 64MB RAM. The swapfile and the NFS root probably slow it down. An honest comparison can't be made until I install it just like SunOS was, permanent-style -- separate /, /usr/, /var, swap, and two /home partitions, spread across 3 SCSI disks. But right now the system load bounces around 1.3 with 28 users using pine, and sendmail MTA, if that's any basis for comparison. You can hit "delete" now -- what follows is an account of my experience. -- clip here -- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 06:07:14 -0400 If anyone's interested in my endeavor to secretly replace SunOS 4.1.3 with Linux on a SparcStation 20. First I FTPd the kernel and debian-sparc-root and installed it according to the doc file (which curiously, referred to it as sparc-debian-root). Then I configured bootpd and did a "boot net" -- which failed of course. I had to follow the HTML links and study the manuals before realizing that bootpd doesn't do arp. Then there was a few minutes of tension where rarp didn't seem to be available at all, but it turns out that kerneld just wasn't autoloading it. Then there ensued the usual problem with tftpd being off in hosts.allow. Now the kernel booted, repeatedly. The ftpd daemon reported a successful fetch every 10 seconds. It took a half hour to determine a problem with an IP address was causing this -- the going theory on IRC was that the kernel itself was compatiable with sun4m. (I installed the RedHat kernel briefly to make sure this wasn't the problem.) Now it worked, and I was never so happy to see the "color or mono" dialog box. I entered dinstall, went straight to the shell option (I didn't yet realize VCs worked on sparc), and tried to fdisk. There was no fdisk anywhere, or dmesg -- the two things i needed most. Undaunted, I went to the NFS server and ar x'd the fdisk.deb and tarred it into place. Then since I was at it, I did some other packages too. Returning to the sparc I found this broke a bunch of things, like "ls", for some reason. The #debian channel on IRC suggested i just unpack the base.tgz and mount THAT, which worked better. I tinkered around for a while, switching between SunOS 4.1.3 and linux to make absolutely sure the disk I was about to wipe was "/dev/sd2". (I have three disks, two of which are identical 2GB -- one with vital /home data, the other empty.) Finally after checking the SCSI IDs I guessed that SunOS boots from /dev/sdc and that "/dev/sd2" was /dev/sdb. When it came down to the actual partitioning it turned out I had no idea how to repartition a Sun disk. When fdisk started saying it was recommended that /dev/sdc3 be a "whole disk" partition, I basically gave up and decided to just mke2fs what was already there -- a 2GB partition linux called /dev/sdb7. At this point it was smooth sailing until I decided to try runlevel 2. Turns out there's a /etc/init.d/network in base.tgz that kills the RARP configuration the kernel did, so the system hangs a split second after going multiuser. I also found I had no /etc/inittab, which init.d didn't like. And I had to edit /etc/fstab to put a NFS entry there for /. Now I had multiuser linux going, and an all-but empty partition, a familar scenario. Crossing my fingers, I was happy to find that mount -t ufs /dev/sda7 actually worked -- not only did someone think to compile ufs in, this also meant I hadn't trashed the good disk. I started a copy of the 1.8-odd GB of /home data to the linux partition, which even now -- six hours later -- hasn't finished. Yet linux insists they are all "10.000MHz FAST SCSI-II" drives. Hm. In the meantime I set about installing Debian/Sparc. Turned out crucial packages weren't there, like the libc6 that grep and sed seemed to want. Nor were some packages I need to have before morning: apache, bind, sendmail, proftpd, etc. So I set about installing the development environment. Turns out that even with automake and gettext installed, I couldn't build dpkg 1.4.0.19. The provided dpkg 1.4.0.8 can't unpack source, so I've had to put up with "zcat ../package*diff.gz | patch -p1" all night. This is where I'm at now, running "dpkg-bu
Re: CDROM death
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Carl Flippin wrote: > Every time I try to access my cdrom under any distribution of Linux, > the entire system goes into limbo. My drive is connected to a PAS 16 > and it appears that autoprobe is finding it since the light on the > drive flashes. The drive is a Toshiba 2x. Has anyone heard of this > problem before? Do I need to get a new CDROM drive? I would strongly recommend that you compile the appropriate non-IDE driver into your kernel and avoid autoprobing. I had many problems with autoprobing a Creative Labs CD-ROM. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Support for the 3Com 3C900 (Etherlink PCI) network card?
On Wed, Aug 27, 1997 at 04:28:50PM +0200, Lazaro Salem wrote: : It seems there is no module support for the 3Com 3C900 Etherlink PCI : card in the standard kernel (version 2.0.x). However I found there are : some updated source code and a compiled module in: : : http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html : : Has anybody tried the compiled module? Yep.. Running version 0.42 of the driver from the above page on the following cards: 3c595 3c900 3c905 All work splendidly. -- Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "There is a fine line between idiocy My employers like me, but not| and genius. We aim to erase that line" enough to let me speak for them. | --Unknown http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Sony StorStation (Ditto 2Gb)
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote: > I've just procured the above tape drive and installed it on my parallel > port. I also rebuilt my kernel to support tape (I think). Now what? > What package can I use to back up my system? TIA That drive is not (yet, at least) supported by Linux. It uses a proprietary protocol which Iomega has not released. I think there has been some progress in obtaining the specs, so wait and see. Or you might want to consider exchanging it for one of the supported drives (see the Ftape-HOWTO). Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Support for the 3Com 3C900 (Etherlink PCI) network card?
It seems there is no module support for the 3Com 3C900 Etherlink PCI card in the standard kernel (version 2.0.x). However I found there are some updated source code and a compiled module in: http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html Has anybody tried the compiled module? Will it work with on a debian system running 2.0.27 or 2.0.29 ? or...? (I remeber reading something about the header in debian were the last "stable" ones instead of the latest found in the original kernel source). Any comment from those who had experience with this cards will be appreciated. Thanks. -- Lazaro D. Salem E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RF-Rogaland Research Phone: +47 51 87 50 00 P.O.Box 2503, Ullandhaug Direct: +47 51 87 50 65 N-4004 Stavanger, NORWAY Fax: +47 51 87 52 00 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
New mailing list: debian-dissent
A new mailing list has been formed to function as an arena for discussions about changing the current Debian (non technical) structure and function. General discussion topicality about the Debian project is: reorganization restructuring splitting or branching purpose and ethics surrounding such alerts to breach of policy, ethics, or 'secret' actions It is a public avenue to discuss such things and if need be point fingers without fear of being censored or removed from the list. To join or leave, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe or unsubscribe in the title. To post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Full uncensored archives are available at: http://www.psychosis.com/listarch/debian-dissent/ - http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ Linux Router Project -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Linux in Wired
There was a decent article about Linux in the latest issue of Wired. It was honest and fair, in my opinion, and Linux came out looking really good. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Performance] 386vs486 compilation
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Have you ever seen numbers for running Pentium code on a 486 and 386 vs > > > native code? > > > > I think the Pentium code generator now uses Pentium-specific instructions. > > Before then, Pentium code on 386 and 486 sometimes ran faster than the 386 > > and 486 code, because it avoided some instructions that turned out to be > > slow. > > Yes, this is what I usually hear about most compilers. P5 Code runs as > fast or faster on 486's. What GCC needs is a to have the 486 generator > perform pentium optimizations and not use pentium/386 instructions. Then > we could compile everything for this. The speed hit on a pentium would > drop on alot of apps and the 486/386 would not have any hit.. Forgive me for picking a nit... The reason P5-optimized code runs faster on a 486 than 486-optimized code has to do with the much improved general optimizations of the P5 code generator. Logically, 486-optimized code will _always_ run faster on a 486 than P5-optimized code. If that is not the case, then the 486-optimized code wasn't optimal after all. > I wonder what instructions gcc uses on the 586, I don't recall seeing that > many usefull ones for general purpose stuff.. Last I heard, gcc didn't use anything but instructions available on the 386. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Give others some insight into YOUR pages! http://www.verisim.com/insite/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Performance] 386vs486 compilation
> It just dawned on me that all intel packages must be compiled for 386 to > make them intel platform-independant. I am wondering how much of a > performance boost can be had by recompiling them for 486 or pentium. 10% improvement would probably be about the maximum. While 10% is the point where things start becoming significant, it would only make any noticeable difference on a couple packages, so I don't think it's worth it in general. > While it is probably a waste of disk space to have trees for each type of > CPU (i386, i486, i586), it MIGHT be worthwhile to have a kernal binary for > each target if a performance boost can be gotten. For any type of performance system, people should build their own kernels anyway, in my opinion. Also, because of the nice way Debian source builds itself, anyone can easily recompile any package that they want the extra speed boost on. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Samba 1.9.17 is out
> > Any way, if he comes with an update it'll go into Hamm. My question is, > > to make it work with Bo (libc5) all that is needed is to recompile in > > a bo system? > > Yes, unless there are bugs in the package... > But usually, it works OK. OK, thanks. I'll have the chance to test this in about 15 minutes when I finish my unofficial package that I'll use while Klee comes out with an official update. My development machine is setup to build libc6 packages and my production servers are still in libc5. See ya. E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Qmail package, where?
Hi everybody! I am looking for the qmail package so that I can install it on a debian platform. Unfortunately I was unable to find it so far. Can anyone please tell me where I might find the package. (the complete url would be appreciated) Thanks in advance. Paulo -- Instituto de Gestao Informatica e Financeira da Saude Paulo Jorge de Almeida E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: +351 1 7925656 Fax:+351 1 792 My moto: "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." Don't be so hard on yourself. Listen to some good music like U2. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Samba 1.9.17 is out
> Hi. > > No, not yet, I haven't asked the maintainer for an update. I guess > he's out or something because I sent an e-mail to him a couple > of weeks ago regarding a question I had with the Samba package and > he did not get back to me. > > Any way, if he comes with an update it'll go into Hamm. My question is, > to make it work with Bo (libc5) all that is needed is to recompile in > a bo system? Yes, unless there are bugs in the package... But usually, it works OK. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Samba 1.9.17 is out
Hi. No, not yet, I haven't asked the maintainer for an update. I guess he's out or something because I sent an e-mail to him a couple of weeks ago regarding a question I had with the Samba package and he did not get back to me. Any way, if he comes with an update it'll go into Hamm. My question is, to make it work with Bo (libc5) all that is needed is to recompile in a bo system? See ya. E.- > > Hello everyone, > > > > Samba 1.9.17 is out, it has just been released. Since it solves several > > browsing related bugs and adds several new features my company is > > really interested in, I am making an unofficial package out of it. > > Have you tried asking the maintainer, Klee Dienes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > for an update? -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Samba 1.9.17 is out
> Hello everyone, > > Samba 1.9.17 is out, it has just been released. Since it solves several > browsing related bugs and adds several new features my company is > really interested in, I am making an unofficial package out of it. Have you tried asking the maintainer, Klee Dienes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, for an update? -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Off-topic - tcpload
> > I have need for something to show me the load on an interface and so far I > have not been able to find anything. tcpview looks promising but there is > no binary. Any ideas? I'm interested in both eth0 and ppp0 interfaces. Is netdiag the package you are looking for? /usr/sbin/statnet /usr/sbin/trafshow /usr/sbin/netwatch /usr/bin/netload > And another question - how many hosts can one have on a single thin > ethernet cable? Dunno. Wasn't there a maximum to the lenght of a BNC cable? (100 meters or thereabouts)? -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: new install
Karsten Bolding writes: > > Hi > > Just got a new computer with 2 Quantum Fireball ST2.1A and a Pioneer ATAPI CD > (DR-A24X) > > I'am having some problems... > > I can boot the system and come to the point where > > Please wait > Installation is determining the current state .. > > and then the screen starts to be filed with > > hdb: irq timeout: error 0x20 > hdb: irq timeout: status 0x51 > hdb: irq timeout: error 0x20 > hdb: irq timeout: status 0x51 > hdb: irq timeout: error 0x20 > hdb: irq timeout: status 0x51 > I've seen this one before. It can be caused by 2 controllers using the same interrupt. (Quick story) I purchased a used ethernet card without setup software. When I added it to the system, I found out that it was mapped to the same IRQ as my cdrom drive. I saw the same message as above. Win95 would not even recognise either card or cdrom drive. Anyhow I found the setup software and re-assigned the IRQ of the card. End of story! -- -= Sent by Debian 1.2 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK - member of ARRL @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I2O article
> "john" == john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: john> I wonder if it was truly a mistake. Maybe someone in the group runs Linux. ;-} Glenn -- Glenn Amerine Inet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Systems AnalystVoice: (614)224-1336 Metropolitan Human Services Commission Fax: (614)224-6472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: reading mail locally
On Tue, Aug 26, 1997 at 11:42:41PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: > In essence, I need a way for my > machine to receive mail when booted to debian, but not have that mail > get lost if the system is down (which, over breaks, etc., can mean a > week or more of downtime). I've thought of two solutions, but maybe > someone else has another way. > If the mail servers allow you to collect your mail with POP or IMAP you should consider using fetchmail. It will fetch your mail from the various servers and feed it to your home machine as if it had arrived via STMP. Chiel -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: reading mail locally
Sounds like a job for fetchmail. Will Lowe wrote: > > Ok, again, now that I'm back at school, I'd like to have all my > email/news reading be local, on my debian box, rather than on the > central servers. I can forward mail via .forward or .maildelivery (on two > different systems). > > The problem is this: my machine is (unfortunately) still running Win95 on > (rare) occaisions, and is also prone to the power outages caused by the > microwaves of the other residents. In essence, I need a way for my > machine to receive mail when booted to debian, but not have that mail > get lost if the system is down (which, over breaks, etc., can mean a > week or more of downtime). I've thought of two solutions, but maybe > someone else has another way. > > Solutions: > > 1) Forward mail to my machine (rivendell) by forwarding it all to one of > my remote accounts, and setting up a system that, when rivendell boots, > logs onto the remote account and replaces the .maildelivery with one that > forwards mail to rivendell, reinstating the original .maildelivery when > rivendell goes to shutdown. > > 2) Set up a cron-driven sort of thing that (every five minutes, or > whatever) rcp's my /var/spool/mail/~user file from each of several hosts, > appending them all to /var/spool/mail/harpo on rivendell. > > Any suggestions, comments, or other thoughts? Is there a package to do > this automagically? > > Will > > --- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ > For PGP Public Key, visit my website. > --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Off-topic - tcpload
I have need for something to show me the load on an interface and so far I have not been able to find anything. tcpview looks promising but there is no binary. Any ideas? I'm interested in both eth0 and ppp0 interfaces. And another question - how many hosts can one have on a single thin ethernet cable? Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832 32S, 116E =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: q-mail: setup problem
Joey Hess wrote: > > Thanks for using NetForward! > http://www.netforward.com > v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v > > Package: qmail > Version: 1.00-2 > > I'm filing a bug on this. > > dada wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I just installed qmail in my system to replace smail. > > > > When the configurarion script runs, here is that it return me: > > > > ** > > > > qmailconfig > > Your hostname is antinoo > > --here the script stop for a while-- > > soft error > > Sorry,I couldn't find your host's name in DNS > > You will have to set up control/me yourself > > > > > > > > I understand that the problem is that I have my bind pakage in bad setup > > (sorry, I don't know set up it. I answer the questions that scripts > > setup ask me, but I don't now do anymore), but I don't understand that > > is the last line: "You will have to set up control/me yourself". > > Yes, I think this is a bug. It should refer to /etc/qmail/me . If you edit > that file and place your hostname in it, qmail will probably work ok. > I do itbut it still don't work. I put in me file the next: antinoo.futures.edu what's the problem? I supose that it don't work becouse if i email me, the mail never comes to me (I don't know where is but the mail client loock that send it) thanks -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Samba 1.9.17 is out
Hello everyone, Samba 1.9.17 is out, it has just been released. Since it solves several browsing related bugs and adds several new features my company is really interested in, I am making an unofficial package out of it. If anyone is interested please drop me a note. E.- P.S. An official package should make it into Ham. -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Cursor vanishes when LILO loads and doesn't return
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Michael Rokicki wrote: > *It's probably OK. Send me the contents of /proc/cpuinfo. Is your chip from > *Intel? > > processor : 0 > cpu : 386 > model : unknown > vendor_id : unknown > stepping : unknown > fdiv_bug : no > hlt_bug : no > fpu : no > fpu_exception : no > cpuid : no > wp: no > flags : > bogomips : 7.96 > > That's interesting, my environment has "HOSTTYPE=i586". It's an AMD chip. Very interesting is what mine says. I have a true Intel Pentium processor. /proc/cpuinfo shows: processor : 0 cpu : 586 model : Pentium 75+ vendor_id : GenuineIntel stepping: 5 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid : yes wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 bogomips: 39.73 and HOSTTYPE=i486 (!) the arch command says it is an i586. What is wrong here that sets the HOSTTYPE variable to the wrong value? Remco -- Jean-Luc Picard: To baldly go where no man has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Article on Linux and non-official dist.
Hi Keith, As you may be aware, there was another suggestion recently to issue a mini-debian on CD with a magazine. I did some work on that project and solved the problems of making a workable distribution which took up approx 20 Mb of CD space. So if you have 100 Mb available on a CD you can pick another 80 Mb of packages. There were no dependancy problems and running dselect was a walk in the park. With my approach the readers can upgrade easily to a full Debian by ftp, NFS or purchasing a CDROM. If I can help, let me know. Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832 32S, 116E =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Keith Beattie wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm in the process of writing an article about installing Linux (using > Debian) and hope to have a compatible mini Debian distribution on the > CD that comes with the magazine. I've looked, but can't seem to find > info on the policy and details on creating non-official distributions. > > This isn't a review, it's a how-to article. I'm hoping that this will > give Linux, Debain and the concept a freely available software some > good exposure, so I'd appreciate any help on getting this to go > smoothly. (It's my first article and plan to make a donation to the > cause afterwards once they pay me.) > > Thanks, > Keith > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I2O article
( Re Message From: Bruce Perens ) > > i2o seems to be not so much of a threat any longer. > > Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o, > someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document > (about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. Wired News published > the URL, and thousands of people downloaded copies of the i2o standard > before the i2o group removed it from the server. > > As far as I can tell, they have blown any non-disclosure case they ever > might have had. Unless they make _tremendous_ changes in their standard, > we now know all of what we need to know to write device drivers for it. Well, it looks as though my surmise that "In practice, however, I cannot see I20 being around for very long before the anarchic element suss it out and distribute its characteristics for free" was a prophecy anticipated by events. BTW, I wouldn't mind finding out about it myself ... Ted.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bash
> hello, > > i downloaded the bash 2.01 source from /gnu and did a ./configure and > make. i then attempted make install, and received the following: Maybe just doing "debian/rules build" will do the trick? The debian maintainer may have done all kinds of things to make bash build on Debian, and you are not using them now. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xdm and getting to the console..
On Wed, Aug 20, 1997 at 10:44:31AM -0700, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: > On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Marc W. Brooks wrote: > > > At 01:09 PM 8/20/97 -0400, Paul wrote: > > >hi, x runs on console #7 you can go <1> through<6> to get to > > >a regular prompt. > > >hope this helps. > > >Paul > > > > Thanks, I guess what I was really wondering is whether I can actually > > shutdown X and sit at the console. > > After shifting to the console on F1, as root, you may type > "/etc/init.d/xdm stop". This will shut down xdm. To restart it later, > you can use "/etc/init.d/xdm start". > > Syrus. > Try pressing ctrl-R when looking at the XDM login screen. That should make XDM exit. Then type "/etc/init.d/xdm start" as root to restart it. Regards, Bengt-Ove! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ipfwadm question
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: > My linux box acts as a ip-masq for the internal sub-net of > Windows machines. It has 3 cards: one for output to Internet, with a > valid IP address and 2 for the internal sub-net. > IP-Masq is working OK; all machines can telnet, browse, ftp, etc > to external servers on Internet, being masquerade with the Linux IP. > I'm using this sintax: > # ipfwadm -O -a deny -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D some.site.denied/0 > > but isn't working, since I can connect the denied site from a inside > machine. What is wrong? Have you tried: # ipfwadm -F -p deny # ipfwadm -F -a masq -S -D 0.0.0.0/0 # ipfwadm -F -i deny -S -D some.site.denied/32 (that is adding a forwarding rule before masquerading) Ciao -- Dalla Silvestra Michele Other info: finger://[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 68 02 A9 C7 FB 05 9E 9C C7 B6 4A 13 61 25 5B 43 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Can't get apache to start using my files
jim writes: I also have encountered this problem and reported it as a bug. It took me quite some time finding out what exactly the problem is. I'll send you my /etc/init.d/2nd-apache from another machine. The problem is that apache strarts, fork()s, does something, then a) reading its config and b) reading its configs from /etc/apache independent if you specify -f config or -d directory. Sorry but Apache really suxx. (Hi netgod..) > point your web browser to your own machine. This documentation states > that the default document root is set to /home/www-data/webspace. > This is in error. No such directory was created by the installation > process. Please report this as a bug. > I then created this directory and populated it with files including > index.html. The directory structure below > /home/www-data was chowned to user www-data group root. This has no > effect. So, after trying a number of obvious things, > I'm hoping that someone can tell me the secret to working this > distribution. The correct location is /var/www > And more broadly speaking, it seems that the documentation actually > needed to run apache was not included in the distribution. There is a apache-doc package containing the documentation. It has grown so large that it makes more sense creating second package out of them. > I'm still wading through the apache site for information, but, it > appears that this distribution is different in many ways than > the default apache distribution. I'm really disappointed in this > package maintainer's idea of user friendly. It's one thing to save time Please correspond to him directly, either on irc.debian.org #Debian or via mail e.g. through [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep your head up, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /verursacht durch kaputte Gatesoftware auf der CyberBox / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Knews
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, writes: >Thanks to everyone who suggested knews >How can I expand only the text of the news messages. >I run X in 640x480 until my new monitor comes in and the default message >space shows about 4 or 5 lines. > You can separate the text and article list into two windows: $knews -nntpServer localhost +separate -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://lfix.co.uk/oliver Make it idiot-proof, and someone will breed a better idiot. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: StarOffice installation
Martin Steigerwald writes: > I managed to install StarOffice via its own installation routine, but > not via the Debian installer package. > > If I try dpkg-i-ing the installer packages it fails to find the > StarOffice *.tar.gz files. But this files are in the same directory I > started the installation from. They have to be in ${TMP:-/tmp} > Where do I have to put the archive files if not in the active > directory? Should I put them into /tmp? If yes, can I remap /tmp to > another already existing partition? /tmp is laying on a 50MB root > partition which is maybe 50% full and doesnt have enough space to hold > all the needed archives. I normally have /tmp -> /var/tmp But you can set TMP to an appropriate value, the installer will honor this. > I use the static linked StarOffice binaries. Is there any way to use > the dynamic linked one other than buying Motif? They are linked against Motif you you'll need Motif - Lesstif might work, too but I haven't tried. > Is there any way to speed up starting of StarOffice application > without plugging more memory into the computer? I am using a 486 and > 16 MB of RAM. Hopefully I will get another 16 MB, but God knows when. > That might stop swapping. To be honest, I won't run StarOffice on that machine. You'll have more fun playing and learning LaTeX if you need typesetting. LaTeX will run on your computer without memory and speed problem. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /verursacht durch kaputte Gatesoftware auf der CyberBox / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: depmod -a problem
Hi Manoj, Take a bow. That fixed it. I remembered reading about this and had deleted all the text files in /lib/modules/2.0.29 thinking that they were the problem. Now I will have to put them back! Your help appreciated. Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832 32S, 116E =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On 27 Aug 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > This is a problem with the newer versions of depmod and > friends throwing a hissy fit over non .o files under > /lib/modules/2.0.29/. Older versions did not have a problem, so older > versions of kernel package left text files in /lib/modules/* as > documentation (actually, this reflected what older kernel makefiles > did). > > Since the change in behaviour of depmod, newer versions of > kernel-package do not leave .o files in /lib/modules. > > To clean up, do > % find /lib/modules/2.0.29 -type f | xargs file| grep -v 'ELF 32-bit' > /lib/modules/2.0.29/modules.dep: ASCII text > > Any other file that shows up except for modules.dep should be > removed. > > Upgrade your version of kernel-package if possible. > > manoj > > -- > When an error has been detected and corrected, it will be found to > have been correct in the first place. > Manoj Srivastava mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mobile, Alabama USAhttp://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Article on Linux and non-official dist.
From: Keith Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've looked, but can't seem to find > info on the policy and details on creating non-official distributions. It's fine with us. In fact, you can duplicate the Official Debian 1.3.1 2-CD Set if you want - we put the ISO 9660 master CD images online at the sites listed at the end of this message, just make a label and press 'em. We don't ask for any money for this. If you prefer to make your own CD, install the boot-floppies package and the debian-cd package. Then talk to me, I'm one of the experts on making Debian CDs and I want to make sure your CD doesn't have any common mistakes that would make us look bad. Make sure your CD is bootable, make sure it installs "pppd" and "man", make sure people can get to our FTP sites and get the rest of the system. Thanks Bruce These are FTP sites where you can currently find the Debian GNU/Linux Official 2-CD Set. To add a site, please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . U.S.: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/distributions/debian/OfficialCDH. Peter Anvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.S.: ftp://ftp.debian.org/OfficialCD Greg Hankins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Germany: ftp.uni-erlangen.de:/pub/Linux/Official-Debian-CDs Roman Hodek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> also NFS-mountable (read-only) as /public/pub/Linux/Official-Debian-CDs U.K.: ftp://ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk/computing/operating-systems/Linux/debian/OfficialCD Lee McLoughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hungary: ftp://silver.drk.hu/pub/debian_cd/ Robert Nemkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Japan: ftp://ftp.kc.chuo-u.ac.jp/pub/Linux/OfficialCD/ Atsushi KAMOSHIDA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
CDROM death
Every time I try to access my cdrom under any distribution of Linux, the entire system goes into limbo. My drive is connected to a PAS 16 and it appears that autoprobe is finding it since the light on the drive flashes. The drive is a Toshiba 2x. Has anyone heard of this problem before? Do I need to get a new CDROM drive? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bash
sorry, bruce, but i have no programming experience. i grep'd all the files but couldn't find --dir-file anywhere. where do i change it? thanks, matty Matt "well, i know a heck of a lot more that i used to..." Thompson MZI, Inc. v-206.430.3726 707 S. Grady Wayf-206.430.3420 Renton, WA 98055 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: > Change the --dir-file flag to --infodir . GNU's install-info has diverged > from ours. > > Bruce > -- > Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? > Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html > Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 > > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem creating custom kernel image
Hi, >>"Steve" == Steve Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> When trying to create a custom kernel image, I am in the middle Steve> of the 'make config', right at the point that make splits off Steve> and tries to set up the configuration script for the sound Steve> card, and I get 4 parse errors in /usr/include/stdlib.h. The error messages should help us help you. As would the output of : % dpkg -l libc5 libc6 gcc libc5-dev binutils make bin86 gawk gzip \ shellutils grep cpp These are all the packages that the kernel build process should depend on. It is difficult to say what is wrong based on the information available. manoj -- OF Auxiliary, Mixed, and National Arms The second sort of unprofitable arms are auxiliaries, by whom I mean, troops brought to help and protect you by a potentate whom you summon to your aid; Auxiliaries may be excellent and useful soldiers for themselves, but are always hurtful to him who calls them in; for if they are defeated, he is undone, if victorious, he becomes their prisoner. . . . from Chapter XIII, _The Prince_, by Niccolo Machiavelli, 1513 Manoj Srivastava mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mobile, Alabama USAhttp://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: depmod -a problem
Hi, This is a problem with the newer versions of depmod and friends throwing a hissy fit over non .o files under /lib/modules/2.0.29/. Older versions did not have a problem, so older versions of kernel package left text files in /lib/modules/* as documentation (actually, this reflected what older kernel makefiles did). Since the change in behaviour of depmod, newer versions of kernel-package do not leave .o files in /lib/modules. To clean up, do % find /lib/modules/2.0.29 -type f | xargs file| grep -v 'ELF 32-bit' /lib/modules/2.0.29/modules.dep: ASCII text Any other file that shows up except for modules.dep should be removed. Upgrade your version of kernel-package if possible. manoj -- When an error has been detected and corrected, it will be found to have been correct in the first place. Manoj Srivastava mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mobile, Alabama USAhttp://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Article on Linux and non-official dist.
Hi all, I'm in the process of writing an article about installing Linux (using Debian) and hope to have a compatible mini Debian distribution on the CD that comes with the magazine. I've looked, but can't seem to find info on the policy and details on creating non-official distributions. This isn't a review, it's a how-to article. I'm hoping that this will give Linux, Debain and the concept a freely available software some good exposure, so I'd appreciate any help on getting this to go smoothly. (It's my first article and plan to make a donation to the cause afterwards once they pay me.) Thanks, Keith -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bash
Change the --dir-file flag to --infodir . GNU's install-info has diverged from ours. Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: depmod -a problem
Hi Bruce, On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: > Didn't the format of /etc/conf.modules change? > > Bruce > -- Hmmm, not to my knowledge. Using modutils_2.1.34-5a and tried 2.1.34-5 before that. /etc/conf.modules is substantially the same as the one on my hamm box. Think I'll make a kernel-source-29-deb and let it install itself. Thanks, Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832 32S, 116E =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bash
hello, i downloaded the bash 2.01 source from /gnu and did a ./configure and make. i then attempted make install, and received the following: mattyt# make install mkdir /usr/local/info /usr/bin/install -c bash /usr/local/bin/bash /usr/bin/install -c bashbug /usr/local/bin/bashbug ( cd ./doc ; make \ man1dir=/usr/local/man/man1 man1ext=1 \ man3dir=/usr/local/man/man3 man3ext=3 \ infodir=/usr/local/info install ) make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/bash-2.01/doc' test -d /usr/local/man/man1 || /bin/sh ../support/mkdirs /usr/local/man/man1 test -d /usr/local/man/man3 || /bin/sh ../support/mkdirs /usr/local/man/man3 test -d /usr/local/info || /bin/sh ../support/mkdirs /usr/local/info /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./bash.1 /usr/local/man/man1/bash.1 /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./bashbug.1 /usr/local/man/man1/bashbug.1 /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./bashref.info /usr/local/info/bash.info if /bin/sh -c 'install-info --version' >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ install-info --dir-file=/usr/local/info/dir /usr/local/info/bash.info; \ else true; fi install-info: unknown option `--dir-file=/usr/local/info/dir' usage: install-info [--version] [--help] [--debug] [--maxwidth=nnn] [--section regexp title] [--infodir=xxx] [--align=nnn] [--calign=nnn] [--quiet] [--menuentry=xxx] [--keep-old] [--description=xxx] [--test] [--remove] [--] filename make[1]: *** [install] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/bash-2.01/doc' make: [install] Error 2 (ignored) ??? thanks, matty Matt Thompson MZI, Inc. v-206.430.3726 707 S. Grady Wayf-206.430.3420 Renton, WA 98055 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: depmod -a problem
Didn't the format of /etc/conf.modules change? Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I2O article
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I just read everything on the I2O site, including the "Initiative > Agreement". While they require that the "standard" itself be kept secret, > I see nothing that would prohibit the publication of a driver with source. Just their non-disclosure agreement. > Anyone heard any rumors about where to find a copy of the standard? I'm sure you'll hear from someone who has a copy. Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
depmod -a problem
I just used kernel-package to build kernel-image-2.0.29 and then used dpkg to install it. None of the modules now auto-loads and depmod -a returns gum# depmod -av | less modprobe: error reading ELF header: No such file or directory TYPE /lib/modules/boot TYPE /lib/modules/2.0.29/fs etc etc Anyone? Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832 32S, 116E =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Applixware
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: : On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 06:56:55 -0400, Tom Malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : > Is anyone using redhats applixware on debian? How is it? The install : > difficult? Is it worth buying? I want to migrate away from msoffice and : > use linux exclusively if possible. Thanks : > : : Try out StarOffice before you decide which office suit to use together : with Linux. I have found it very nice ... and version 3.1 is free if : you use it in a non-commercial purpose. : : Check it out at: : http://www.stardiv.de/ : : I don't think you'll find any difficulties installing Applixware. If : I'm right there is an non-rpm installation included on the cd. I've had a play around with StarOffice; the main reason I didn't get it is because I don't have a 'Net connection at home, and the prospect of lugging everything back on 1.44MB floppies doesn't really appeal. I've forked out $99AUS for the student edition of Applixware; it's nice. Very nice. My only beef: the non-rpm installation tries to install everything into /opt. Not a good move, especially since my 30MB root partition only had 15MB free I ended up test driving Redhat for a while on my /home partition (don't ask, please); whilst I was dding that, I installed Applixware somewhere in /usr/local. (under Debian, that would have been /home/usr/local/ ... as I said, don't ask :) Tar it up, untar it into the Debian /usr/local heirachy, and everything is happy happy joy joy. (with some script editing, of course.) One of these days, I might get around to doing some work on an installation package. In my Copious Spare Time, naturally. ;) -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS d-(++) s+:- a-- C++>$ UL+++()>$ P-(---) L++(+++)>+++$ !E--- W+(--)>-- N+(++)> o+>++ K- !w--- !O- !M- !V- PS+ PE Y(+) PGP+>+++ t 5 !X !R tv-(--)>! b++()> DI+(+)> D++(---) G+ e++ h>++ !r>+++ y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Cursor vanishes when LILO loads and doesn't return
From: Michael Rokicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > processor : 0 > cpu : 386 > model : unknown > vendor_id : unknown > stepping : unknown > fdiv_bug : no > hlt_bug : no > fpu : no > fpu_exception : no > cpuid : no > wp: no > flags : > bogomips : 7.96 It's pretty clear the kernel knows what CPU it is. > my environment has "HOSTTYPE=i586". It's an AMD chip. Tell me what the output of the "arch" command is, please. > I didn't make myself clear, for example: in ms-dos I used "debug" to put > together the utility needed to turn my cursor back on. Oh. It's slightly harder under Linux because the system is in protected mode. Can you tell me exactly what you type into "debug"? Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
reading mail locally
Ok, again, now that I'm back at school, I'd like to have all my email/news reading be local, on my debian box, rather than on the central servers. I can forward mail via .forward or .maildelivery (on two different systems). The problem is this: my machine is (unfortunately) still running Win95 on (rare) occaisions, and is also prone to the power outages caused by the microwaves of the other residents. In essence, I need a way for my machine to receive mail when booted to debian, but not have that mail get lost if the system is down (which, over breaks, etc., can mean a week or more of downtime). I've thought of two solutions, but maybe someone else has another way. Solutions: 1) Forward mail to my machine (rivendell) by forwarding it all to one of my remote accounts, and setting up a system that, when rivendell boots, logs onto the remote account and replaces the .maildelivery with one that forwards mail to rivendell, reinstating the original .maildelivery when rivendell goes to shutdown. 2) Set up a cron-driven sort of thing that (every five minutes, or whatever) rcp's my /var/spool/mail/~user file from each of several hosts, appending them all to /var/spool/mail/harpo on rivendell. Any suggestions, comments, or other thoughts? Is there a package to do this automagically? Will --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ For PGP Public Key, visit my website. --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Knews
Thanks to everyone who suggested knews. It is a very nice X based news reader. I had a little trouble with the install though. Seemed dselect wanted to write in /etc/news -- that did not exist and it would not create it. Kept bombing out. So I created /etc/news and everything is happy. Almost... How can I expand only the text of the news messages. I run X in 640x480 until my new monitor comes in and the default message space shows about 4 or 5 lines. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Can't get apache to start using my files
Using apache 1.1.3-6. The apache httpd is currently installed and running on my system (kernel 2.0.30). However, only the default files will show up. No matter what I do, I can't get apache to serve my files. The documentation which comes with the distribution pops up when you point your web browser to your own machine. This documentation states that the default document root is set to /home/www-data/webspace. This is in error. No such directory was created by the installation process. I then created this directory and populated it with files including index.html. The directory structure below /home/www-data was chowned to user www-data group root. This has no effect. So, after trying a number of obvious things, I'm hoping that someone can tell me the secret to working this distribution. And more broadly speaking, it seems that the documentation actually needed to run apache was not included in the distribution. I'm still wading through the apache site for information, but, it appears that this distribution is different in many ways than the default apache distribution. I'm really disappointed in this package maintainer's idea of user friendly. It's one thing to save time during installation and another thing to waste scads of time during setup when all the information you need just isn't there and the package doesn't behave as advertized. I would like to keep this package just to maintain debian compatability, however, I bet I could compile and setup apache from scratch faster than pluggin around with this package. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Cursor vanishes when LILO loads and doesn't return
> I'm running a 386DX-40 but for some reason it's being listed as an i586 > on start-up. Any reason I shouldn't continue to ignore this until I get > to understand the OS better? *It's probably OK. Send me the contents of /proc/cpuinfo. Is your chip from *Intel? processor : 0 cpu : 386 model : unknown vendor_id : unknown stepping: unknown fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no fpu : no fpu_exception : no cpuid : no wp : no flags : bogomips: 7.96 That's interesting, my environment has "HOSTTYPE=i586". It's an AMD chip. > Is there a small deb package, I only have a few Mbytes to > spare, you'd recommen to bridge over from what I've picked up in ms-dos? *I don't really think so. There is a file manager that looks like Norton *Commander, but there isn't a good fake DOS environment. I didn't make myself clear, for example: in ms-dos I used "debug" to put together the utility needed to turn my cursor back on. It's that type of knowledge I want to bridge over. I'm looking for a Debian programming package that's both compact in size and has good basic doc's to groove me in to doing things in Linux/Unix. > I see from the mailing list you hold some position Debian scheme of things, > what is it? *I'm the project leader. The big cheese, I guess. I think you guys are doing a great job! It's incredible being able to dl Debian and get it running so easily. Thanks for your help in getting through the initial confusion. Michael -- Michael Rokicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: q-mail: setup problem
Package: qmail Version: 1.00-2 I'm filing a bug on this. dada wrote: > Hi. > > I just installed qmail in my system to replace smail. > > When the configurarion script runs, here is that it return me: > > ** > > qmailconfig > Your hostname is antinoo > --here the script stop for a while-- > soft error > Sorry,I couldn't find your host's name in DNS > You will have to set up control/me yourself > > > > I understand that the problem is that I have my bind pakage in bad setup > (sorry, I don't know set up it. I answer the questions that scripts > setup ask me, but I don't now do anymore), but I don't understand that > is the last line: "You will have to set up control/me yourself". Yes, I think this is a bug. It should refer to /etc/qmail/me . If you edit that file and place your hostname in it, qmail will probably work ok. > what can i solve this problem? > > I seek answer in "usr/doc/qmail", but I don't find it :-) (I'm novice). > > > Please,help > > Thanks -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I2O article
Kevin Traas writes: > Wonder how many of them said "DOH" and slapped their forehead in a most > Homer-like fashion? I wonder if it was truly a mistake. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I2O article
Bruce Perens writes: > Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o, > someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document > (about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. > ... > As far as I can tell, they have blown any non-disclosure case they ever > might have had. I just read everything on the I2O site, including the "Initiative Agreement". While they require that the "standard" itself be kept secret, I see nothing that would prohibit the publication of a driver with source. > Unless they make _tremendous_ changes in their standard, we now know all > of what we need to know to write device drivers for it. They can't make major changes: there are already products in the pipeline. Minor changes should be easy to reverse-engineer, given the current document. If I2O becomes a truly public standard, I think it will be big plus for free software. Anyone heard any rumors about where to find a copy of the standard? -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I2O article
>i2o seems to be not so much of a threat any longer. > >Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o, >someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document >(about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. Wired News published >the URL, and thousands of people downloaded copies of the i2o standard >before the i2o group removed it from the server. > >As far as I can tell, they have blown any non-disclosure case they ever >might have had. Unless they make _tremendous_ changes in their standard, >we now know all of what we need to know to write device drivers for it. Wonder how many of them said "DOH" and slapped their forehead in a most Homer-like fashion? Later, Kevin Traas Baan Business Systems Systems Analyst Langley, BC, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] (604) 882-8169 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Sony StorStation (Ditto 2Gb)
I've just procured the above tape drive and installed it on my parallel port. I also rebuilt my kernel to support tape (I think). Now what? What package can I use to back up my system? TIA -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] The IQ of the group is that of the member whose IQ is lowest divided by the number of members. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ftp status under dselect
Is there any way to have dselect show a status during the ftp of selected files? Something similar to the status indicator that ncftp uses would be nice. Bob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Green monitor functions
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Joey Hess wrote: > Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > > In fact, you can configure the whole thing in /etc/XF86Config. > > > > Some lines from mine are: > > > > Section "Screen" > > Driver "accel" > > Device "S3_868" > > BlankTime 15 > > SuspendTime 20 > > OffTime 30 > > What exactly is the difference between suspend and standby modes? StatusPower Restore On100% N/A Standby <80% 1-2 seconds Suspend <25 watts 1-2 seconds Off <5 watts < 20 seconds I think on alot of screens they are the same.. Jason -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Green monitor functions
Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > In fact, you can configure the whole thing in /etc/XF86Config. > > Some lines from mine are: > > Section "Screen" > Driver "accel" > Device "S3_868" > BlankTime 15 > SuspendTime 20 > OffTime 30 What exactly is the difference between suspend and standby modes? -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I2O article
i2o seems to be not so much of a threat any longer. Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o, someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document (about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. Wired News published the URL, and thousands of people downloaded copies of the i2o standard before the i2o group removed it from the server. As far as I can tell, they have blown any non-disclosure case they ever might have had. Unless they make _tremendous_ changes in their standard, we now know all of what we need to know to write device drivers for it. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problem creating custom kernel image
Hi, I've only been using Debian 1.3.1 for a short while now and have run up against a problem that I'm not sure what to do about. When trying to create a custom kernel image, I am in the middle of the 'make config', right at the point that make splits off and tries to set up the configuration script for the sound card, and I get 4 parse errors in /usr/include/stdlib.h. I am not a C programmer by any means, and looking at the code did not help much. Are there known issues about this? I have installed the libc6 runtimes, but all else should be libc5 as far as I know, Previously I had to edit two other .h files to reference the proper location of stddef.h being in /usr/include/linux rather than /usr/include. Any help would be appreciated. Never ran into a problem like this in my four years of running Slackware. Thanks, Steve Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .