Re: Faking out dpkg/dselect

[Paul Seelig]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Martin) writes:

> In any case, does anyone know of some way to trick dpkg into
> thinking that I have emacs 19.34 installed?
>
Get the 'equivs' package and configure it as desired.  Check out
"http://www.uni-mainz.de/~pseelig/equivs.html"; for more information.

   Cheers, P. *8^)
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Re: GIMP (fwd)

[Bob Nielsen]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:

> David,
> 
> Well, there were no .gimp directories to be found, only gimp directories
> (/usr/lib/gimp, /usr/doc/gimp).  I deleted the .gimprc files as mattyt and
> as root and got this error both ways:
> 
> gimp fatal error: ".gimprc" file not found
> 
> so i copied the included dot.gimprc file to my home directory (i
> gunzipped it first :) ) and got the old error:
> 
> gimp fatal error: Unable to open included resource file.
> 
> ???
> 
> p.s. again, i never saw any .gimp dirs, only gimp dirs

I don't have any .gimprc.  When I installed gimp, it installed
/etc/gimp/gimprc, which I haven't had to touch (gimp-smotif_0.54.1-6.deb).

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Re: xlock

[Behan Webster]

Martin Schulze wrote:
> 
> Behan Webster writes:
> > I have xlockmore installed on my system here with shadow turned on.
> > I know it's supposed to work (because other machines on our localnet
> > are configured seemingly exactly the same and xlock works there).
> >
> > griffon:~> ls -l /etc/passwd /etc/shadow /usr/bin/X11/xlock
> > -rw-r--r--   1 root root 1220 Sep 29 09:32 /etc/passwd
> > -rw-r-   1 root shadow797 Oct  2 09:37 /etc/shadow
> > -rwxr-sr-x   1 root shadow 463376 May 31 21:27
> > /usr/bin/X11/xlock*
> > griffon:~> xlock
> > xlock: it looks like you have shadow passwording.
> > Contact your administrator.
> > griffon:~>
> >
> > What's wrong?  What am I missing?  Am I going insane?
> 
> Try a "shadowconfig off" and then "shadowconfig on" afterwards.  Maybe
> the package is slightly confused?

No, shadow was definitely on and functioning fine.  It is xlock itself
who can't read the password despite being setgid shadow.

The problem (which I finally figured out) is that the passwords are
being served by nis.  I have nis setup to mangle passwords for non
root users, and since xlock doesn't run as root, there is no way for
it to read the password from nis.  (nis mangles the password by
returning an "x" for the password field).

The are only 2 ways of fixing the problem as far as I can tell.
1) don't have nis mangle the passwords.
2) set xlock to be setuid root.

I've opted for the second solution.

I've filed a bug report against the xlockmore package stating exactly
the above, but I'm not sure what can be done.  Perhaps the postinst
can ask if nis is mangling passords, and if so, do you want xlock
to be setuid root.

Thanks anyways,

Behan

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Re: Problems

[Adrian Bridgett]

On Oct 11, Julien Pham wrote
> First : my xterm has no color. Or, no, it has colors (when I do a ls
> --color in it, it works) but when I launch a text based appli (such as
> deselect for example)  in it, it in in B & W... Why ?

I think I have reported this as a bug against dselect?? Try using rxvt
instead?

> Second : I have printing pbs. When I use the lpr command, it prints on
> my printer but it prints some strange characters, something that seems
> to be page sets... (%%PageOrder : Ascend, ... /.notdef...)

That looks like postscript, try installing the "magicfilter" package.

> Third : I cannot have sound if I am not a super user or root, it will no
> open /dev/audio or /dev/dsp.

Add yourself to the audio group: 

/etc/group

audio:*:29:apb25

Enjoy!

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Re: smail queue processing question

[Adrian Bridgett]

On Oct 12, Al Youngwerth wrote
> >> I use a debian box running smail as our local and Internet mail server for
> >> our lan. Is there an easy way I can setup smail to process mail that should
> >> be delivered locally immediately but queue up mail bound for the Internet
> >> and send it all out once every 30 minutes?
> >> 
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Al Youngwerth
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm no email expert at all, but I have the basics of this working for
exim (like smail). I attach my exim.conf - basically use "queue_smtp" -
this will resolve the names, but only send local ones. Then use "exim -qf" to 
force a
retry. I do this when I dial-up to my ISP, but you could just stick it in
your crontab.

qualify_domain = localhost
qualify_recipient = localhost
local_domains = wyvern:localhost

receiver_unqualified_nets = *

local_domains_include_host = true
local_domains_include_host_literals = true
never_users = root
trusted_users = mail
gecos_pattern = ^([^,:]*)
gecos_name = $1
# added by apb
queue_smtp = true

received_header_text = "Received: \
  ${if def:sender_fullhost {from ${sender_fullhost} \
  ${if def:sender_ident {(${sender_ident})}}\n\t}\
  {${if def:sender_ident {from ${sender_ident} \
  by ${primary_hostname} \
  ${if def:received_protocol {with ${received_protocol}}} \
  (Exim ${version_number} #${compile_number})\n\t\
  id ${message_id} (Debian)"
end

##
#  TRANPORTS CONFIGURATION   #
##

local_delivery:
  driver = appendfile;
  group = mail
  mode = 0660
  file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}

address_pipe:
  driver = pipe;

address_file:
  driver = appendfile

address_reply:
  driver = autoreply


 # General configuration for SMTP delivery
#smtp:
#  driver = smtp;

# transport
smtp_appendfile:
  driver = appendfile;
  directory = /var/spool/exim/output/${host},
  bsmtp = all,
  prefix =,
  suffix =,
  user = mail

remote_smtp:
  driver = smtp;

end

##
#  DIRECTORS CONFIGURATION   #
##

real_local:
  prefix = real-,
  driver = localuser,
  transport = local_delivery;

system_aliases:
  driver = aliasfile;
  file = /etc/aliases,
  search_type = lsearch
# user = list
# Uncomment the above line if you are running smartlist

userforward:
  no_verify,
  driver = forwardfile;
  file = .forward,
  filter

local:
  driver = localuser,
  transport = local_delivery;

end

##
#  ROUTERS CONFIGURATION #
##

lookuphost:
  driver = domainlist,
  transport = remote_smtp;
  route_list = * mail.isp.com byname

end

##
#  RETRY CONFIGURATION   #
##

# Domain   Error   Retries
# --   -   ---

#*  *   F,2h,15m; G,16h,2h,1.5; F,4d,8h
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Re: msdos file system

[Remco Blaakmeer]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Oliver Elphick wrote:

> Mike Lucius wrote:
>   >Just loaded Linux for the 1st time. I would like to know how to create
>   >an msdos file system. I think I need other files installed on my system
>   >but have not been able to figure out what or how.
> 
> You can't _create_ an MSDOS file system in Linux,
[snip]

And what about mkdosfs? It's in the dosfstools package.

$ whatis mkdosfs
mkdosfs (8)  - create an MS-DOS file system under Linux
$

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Re: Emacs and Xemacs

[Marcus Brinkmann]

Actually, you can. It depends which versions you use. But I'm not sure if it
is possible with 1.3, ...

On Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 05:54:16PM -0400, Daniel Howe wrote:
>
> Hi you can not install both, I think is because it uses same resources or
> something like that.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Chi Wong wrote:
> 
> > Is there a way to install emacs and xemacs on debian. I can't install both
> > because it conflicts with each other. There must be a way to have both on my
> > computer. 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
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Re: GIMP (fwd)

[Matt Thompson]

David,

Well, there were no .gimp directories to be found, only gimp directories
(/usr/lib/gimp, /usr/doc/gimp).  I deleted the .gimprc files as mattyt and
as root and got this error both ways:

gimp fatal error: ".gimprc" file not found

...so i copied the included dot.gimprc file to my home directory (i
gunzipped it first :) ) and got the old error:

gimp fatal error: Unable to open included resource file.

???

p.s. again, i never saw any .gimp dirs, only gimp dirs

thanks,
matty

>   Well, I installed lesstif and it still didn't work.  So, using dselect, 
> I
>   removed the dynamic gimp and installed the static gimp and got the
>   following error:
>   
>   gimp fatal error: Unable to open included resource file.
>   
>   ...thinking it may be a permissions problem, I re-logged in to xdm as
>   root
>   and got the same exact error. Do I need to edit my .gimprc or somesuch? 
> 
> Delete .gimp directory and any other .gimprc files that you have. Then run 
> gimp
> again, which will generate new .gimp directory. BTW do so both as a user and
> root since you probably have old .gimp/rc in your root directory too.
> 
> Hth,
> David  
>   ???
>   
>   matty
>   
>  >Dwarf
>  >
>  >Thanks for the reply.  I'm downloading lesstif in dselect as I type 
> this.
>  >I'll let you know how it comes out and also file a bug report.
>  >
>  >Cheers,
>  >matty
>  >
>  >> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:
>  >> 
>  >>> hello, all,
>  >>> 
>  >>> I tried to install the GIMP and xtar, and when trying to run both, I
>  >>> get
>  >>> the same error message:
>  >>> 
>  >>> xtar: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'   ...and:
>  >>> gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'
>  >>> 
>  >> Searching the Contents file for "libXm" showed me that the shared
>  >> library
>  >> is in libs/lesstif. Install the package and things should work. You
>  >> should
>  >> also file bug reports against the packages that do not declare it in
>  >> their
>  >> dependencies.
>  >> 
>  >> Luck,
>  >> 
>  >> Dwarf


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Re: Help! Boot script doesn't run SOLVED!

[Victor Torrico]

On 97/10/13 at 23:15 PM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: 

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Victor Torrico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I was installing the latest hamm/hamm sysvinit and also have file-rc
> >installed.
> 
> Oh - oh ...
> 
> >The /etc/init.d/boot script doesn't run.  None of the file systems are
> >mounted upon boot.  That is the / filesystem is mounted read only but it and
> >the other filesytems are never mounted writable.  What starts the 
> >/etc/init.d/boot
> >script?  /etc/runlevel.conf seems OK.  Runlevel 2 doesn't work correctly.
> >
> >I'm dead in the water now.
> >
> >Help sincerely appreciated.
> 
> For everybody that has this problem, try the following:
> 
> o Boot with the "-b" option on the LILO command line
> o At the shell prompt, enter "mount -n -o remount,rw /"
> o edit /etc/inittab
> ** Write down how the entry with /etc/init.d/boot looks now, I
>really would like to know that!

-

The entry before changing the /etc/inittab file is:

 si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS

I changed this to:

 si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/boot

Also the installation of sysvinit 0.72 had actually deleted the
/etc/init.d/boot file.  I copied /etc/init.d/boot.OLD to /etc/init.d/boot to
restore the file.  This and going from .../rcS to .../boot fixed the problem.

To test I reinstalled sysvinit 0.72 and the /etc/inittab entry went back to:

 si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS   

Also the /etc/init.d/boot file once again was deleted.

-

Thank you for your kindness in helping.

Regards,

Victor

> o change the "/etc/init.d/boot" to "/etc/init.d/rcS" so that it looks like
> 
>si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS
> 
> o Save and exit
> o Type "mount -n -o remount,ro /"
> o Enter "reboot -f"
> 
> Now the system should boot again.
> 
> I'll upload a fixed sysvinit tommorow morning. In the mean time, do NOT
> install sysvinit-2.72 !
> 
> PS: please read the line with `**' again and mail me !
> 
> Mike.
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Re: msdos file system

[Oliver Elphick]

Mike Lucius wrote:
  >Just loaded Linux for the 1st time. I would like to know how to create
  >an msdos file system. I think I need other files installed on my system
  >but have not been able to figure out what or how.

You can't _create_ an MSDOS file system in Linux, but you can mount an
existing one.  You should only create a partition using the operating
system to which it belongs.

The syntax for the command, which must be executed by the superuser (root) is:

  mount -t msdos device mount_point

where device specifies the disk and partition and mount_point is a directory
where the partition will be mounted.

For example, I create a directory called /dosc and run

  mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /dosc

which mounts the first primary partition of my first (master) IDE disk
under the /dosc directory.  (There is already a DOS partition there, of
course.)  I can then type `ls /dosc/windows' or whatever.

Use `man mount' to see further information.

You can also access a DOS floppy disk directly with the commands from
the mtools package.

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Re: GIMP (fwd)

[David Puryear]

On 13-Oct-97 Matt Thompson wrote:
  Well, I installed lesstif and it still didn't work.  So, using dselect, I
  removed the dynamic gimp and installed the static gimp and got the
  following error:
  
  gimp fatal error: Unable to open included resource file.
  
  ...thinking it may be a permissions problem, I re-logged in to xdm as
  root
  and got the same exact error. Do I need to edit my .gimprc or somesuch? 

Delete .gimp directory and any other .gimprc files that you have. Then run gimp
again, which will generate new .gimp directory. BTW do so both as a user and
root since you probably have old .gimp/rc in your root directory too.

Hth,
David  
  ???
  
  matty
  
 >Dwarf
 >
 >Thanks for the reply.  I'm downloading lesstif in dselect as I type this.
 >I'll let you know how it comes out and also file a bug report.
 >
 >Cheers,
 >matty
 >
 >> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:
 >> 
 >>> hello, all,
 >>> 
 >>> I tried to install the GIMP and xtar, and when trying to run both, I
 >>> get
 >>> the same error message:
 >>> 
 >>> xtar: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'   ...and:
 >>> gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'
 >>> 
 >> Searching the Contents file for "libXm" showed me that the shared
 >> library
 >> is in libs/lesstif. Install the package and things should work. You
 >> should
 >> also file bug reports against the packages that do not declare it in
 >> their
 >> dependencies.
 >> 
 >> Luck,
 >> 
 >> Dwarf
  
  
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Re: Login's source absent

[Scott Ellis]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I wanted to see the source of a program login, and modify the greeting,
> and responses, however, I didn't find it under
> bo/source/base/[login]
> Is there any reason for it's absence?
> And where can I find the source for it?
> 
> Or should I fiddle with PAM?

login is now build from the shadow source.

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Re: Emacs and Xemacs

[Daniel Howe]

Hi you can not install both, I think is because it uses same resources or
something like that.


On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Chi Wong wrote:

> Is there a way to install emacs and xemacs on debian. I can't install both
> because it conflicts with each other. There must be a way to have both on my
> computer. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: Login's source absent

[James Troup]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I wanted to see the source of a program login, and modify the
> greeting, and responses, however, I didn't find it under
> bo/source/base/[login]  Is there any reason for it's absence?
> And where can I find the source for it?

Package: login
Version: 961025-2

[...]

Description: Sign on to the system.
 login and newgrp change the user and group.
installed-size: 147
source: shadow
^^

Look at bo/source/base/shadow*.

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Re: what is bzimage?

[Dale Scheetz]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, David S. Zelinsky wrote:

> I went to build a custom kernel with make-kpkg, and noticed the option
> to build a `zimage' kernel, instead of `bzimage' kernel ("the default").
> But I can't find any documentation anywhere of what the difference is
> between these two.  I've looked in the Kernel-HOWTO, and in all the
> documentation in /usr/src/linux.
> 
> So, can someone explain what `bzimage' is, and why I might or might not
> want it?  Thanks.
> 
There is a limit to the size of a zImage kernel (1 meg) which requires
changes to the bootload/compression that result in a bzimage (which can be
larger than 1 meg).
There are several ways you can construct a "custom kernel" that is below
the 1 meg and fit in a zImage. In the mean time, have you tried the tecra
kernel? It is in the disks-i386 directory under the tecra/ subdirectory.
You will find a drivers and rescue disk image there. Give it a try.

Luck,

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Emacs and Xemacs

[Chi Wong]

Is there a way to install emacs and xemacs on debian. I can't install both
because it conflicts with each other. There must be a way to have both on my
computer. 

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Login's source absent

[nimennor]

Hi, 

I wanted to see the source of a program login, and modify the greeting,
and responses, however, I didn't find it under
bo/source/base/[login]
Is there any reason for it's absence?
And where can I find the source for it?

Or should I fiddle with PAM?


Thanks, 
Nikita


+++
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Linux since 2.0.0


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Re: GIMP (fwd)

[Matt Thompson]

Well, I installed lesstif and it still didn't work.  So, using dselect, I
removed the dynamic gimp and installed the static gimp and got the
following error:

gimp fatal error: Unable to open included resource file.

...thinking it may be a permissions problem, I re-logged in to xdm as root
and got the same exact error. Do I need to edit my .gimprc or somesuch? 

???

matty

>Dwarf
>
>Thanks for the reply.  I'm downloading lesstif in dselect as I type this.
>I'll let you know how it comes out and also file a bug report.
>
>Cheers,
>matty
>
>> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:
>> 
>>> hello, all,
>>> 
>>> I tried to install the GIMP and xtar, and when trying to run both, I
>>> get
>>> the same error message:
>>> 
>>> xtar: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'   ...and:
>>> gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'
>>> 
>> Searching the Contents file for "libXm" showed me that the shared
>> library
>> is in libs/lesstif. Install the package and things should work. You
>> should
>> also file bug reports against the packages that do not declare it in
>> their
>> dependencies.
>> 
>> Luck,
>> 
>> Dwarf


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Re: GIMP

[Bob Nielsen]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:
> 
> > hello, all,
> > 
> > I tried to install the GIMP and xtar, and when trying to run both, I get
> > the same error message:
> > 
> > xtar: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'   ...and:
> > gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'
> > 
> Searching the Contents file for "libXm" showed me that the shared library
> is in libs/lesstif. Install the package and things should work. You should
> also file bug reports against the packages that do not declare it in their
> dependencies.

Or install gimp-smotif, rather than gimp-dmotif.  This really can't be
handled by dependencies unless someone came up with a motif installer
package.

Bob

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Re: what is bzimage?

[Bob Nielsen]

On 13 Oct 1997, David S. Zelinsky wrote:

> 
> Scott K. Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > bzimage can be used for a larger kernel image than zimage.  Some old boot
> > loaders can't handle it (though the latest version of lilo and loadlin
> > can).  There is also a problem booting them on some laptops.  For the most
> > part, it doesn't matter though.
> 
> Thanks.  But what is it?
> 
> If my limited understanding is correct, zimage is just a compressed copy of
> the kernel image.  Is bzimage the same, but using a different (better)
> compression algorithm?

As the number of features has increased, kernels have gotten somewhat
larger.  There was a limit on the size of the compressed kernel with
zImage (I don't know what the limit was), and bzImage has a larger limit,
like 1 MB compressed (~2 MB uncompressed).  This started in 1.3.73.
 
> 
> And is this documented somewhere?

Bits and pieces in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes and the LILO and
LOADLIN documentation.  I believe it was more fully documented in the
later pre-2.0 kernel packages.

Bob


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Help! Boot script doesn't run

[Victor Torrico]

I was installing the latest hamm/hamm sysvinit and also have file-rc
installed.

The /etc/init.d/boot script doesn't run.  None of the file systems are
mounted upon boot.  That is the / filesystem is mounted read only but it and
the other filesytems are never mounted writable.  What starts the 
/etc/init.d/boot
script?  /etc/runlevel.conf seems OK.  Runlevel 2 doesn't work correctly.

I'm dead in the water now.

Help sincerely appreciated.

Regards,

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Re: GIMP

[Matt Thompson]

Dwarf

Thanks for the reply.  I'm downloading lesstif in dselect as I type this.
I'll let you know how it comes out and also file a bug report.

Cheers,
matty

> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:
> 
> > hello, all,
> > 
> > I tried to install the GIMP and xtar, and when trying to run both, I get
> > the same error message:
> > 
> > xtar: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'   ...and:
> > gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'
> > 
> Searching the Contents file for "libXm" showed me that the shared library
> is in libs/lesstif. Install the package and things should work. You should
> also file bug reports against the packages that do not declare it in their
> dependencies.
> 
> Luck,
> 
> Dwarf
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Re: scroll-back buffer

[Pete Harlan]

> How can I clear the scroll-back buffer when a use logs out (other than
> changing tty's)?

Echo four thousand spaces from .bash_logout?

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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

[liiwi]

>> hello,
>> 
>> i personally have, as my primary drive, an IBM Deskstar 3.6gb. it's *fast*
>> for an eide drive.  it was rated fastest by a major computing magazine,
>> although i forget which one.  it definitely lives up to the billing. they
>> run about $250 new from several outlets (insight, pczone, cdw, etc.)

 [At work] I handled last warranty hassle with IBM drive sometime
 before summer. We sell these >500pcs /year (single, or in computer), 
 all kind, and some with 3 year onsite from us. Sure these cost a little
 more, but I think it's well worth it. If a customer want's something cheaper, 
 then we sell Quatum, but I see these broken at least twice a month -
 no onsite for these. 

 I remember one 20mb Conner drive years ago, that I just had to break -
 hammer: no go - threw it to street from second floor :no go - finally 
 opened it up with screwdriver and voi'la. 

--j




>> 
>> hope this helps,
>> matty
>> > On Sat, Oct 11, 1997 at 08:38:23PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
>> > > Simon Karpen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > > > Which WD drives have you had good luck with?
>> > > > I have yet to see a recent one last more than a year...
>> > > 
>> > > I have several (3) old Caviar drives.  One is a 170 meg and the other
>> > > two are 540 meg.  One is six years old; the other, probably about 5;
>> > > and the third is about the same.  All worked fine for at least the
>> > > first 4-5 years of their life even though they were powered up
>> > > 24/7/365.  The 170 developed some bad sectors about 1/2 year ago; the
>> > > younger 540 meg had the same problem at about the same time.  The
>> > > 5-year-old 540 meg is still going strong.
>> > > 
>> > > Considering that they were all cheap IDE drives, originally installed
>> > > in a poorly-ventilated case, it is not bad.
>> > 
>> > I have similar good experiences with WD. I have a 730mb which is nearly
>> > 3 years old (light load, 24/7 operation) which works fine; actually
>> > come to think of it I have an old 340mb from about 4-5 years ago
>> > which has been running 24/7 for the last two years with no problems.
>> > The 730 has a bad sector or two and is quite noisy now but is otherwise
>> > fine. I have a 1.6GB in my workstation which is nearly two years old.
>> > I also have a Quantum 3.2Gb of about one year in this machine
>> > and I find the Quantum to be a bit slower. I would probably buy WD again,
>> > although I would want ultra DMA next, or maybe even SCSI (which WD
>> > don't do?)
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Hamish
>> > 
>> > -- 
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>> > RMIT.
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>> > The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.  
>> > --Bohr
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Re: GIMP

[liiwi]

>> hello, all,
>> I tried to install the GIMP and xtar, and when trying to run both, I get
>> the same error message:
>> xtar: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'   ...and:
>> gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'

 Hi!

 Now if I remember correctly, libXm.so.2 is shared Motif v2. library.
 As Motif is commercial product, it is not included with Debian. 
 You are now trying to use dynamically linked versions, that need
 Motif. You can find statically linked versions of both programs, 
 which are linked against Motif so, that they have it inside, and 
 don't need it installed. 

 As for GIMP, there is new version in hamm, that uses GTK (GNU Tool Kit)
 instead of Motif. 

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Re: GIMP

[Dale Scheetz]

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:

> hello, all,
> 
> I tried to install the GIMP and xtar, and when trying to run both, I get
> the same error message:
> 
> xtar: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'   ...and:
> gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'
> 
Searching the Contents file for "libXm" showed me that the shared library
is in libs/lesstif. Install the package and things should work. You should
also file bug reports against the packages that do not declare it in their
dependencies.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: Problems

[Frank Barknecht]

Julien Pham hat gesagt: // Julien Pham wrote:

> First : my xterm has no color. Or, no, it has colors (when I do a ls
> --color in it, it works) but when I launch a text based appli (such as
> deselect for example)  in it, it in in B & W... Why ?

I don't know if this is perfectly right, but it works for me:
Try setting your TERM to xterm-color. 
E.g. put a line 

*XTerm*TermName: xterm-color

in your ~/.Xresources

> 
> Second : I have printing pbs. When I use the lpr command, it prints on
> my printer but it prints some strange characters, something that seems
> to be page sets... (%%PageOrder : Ascend, ... /.notdef...)
> 

Have you installed a filter for your printer? What you see printed
is a postscipt file as text.
You should install and configure magicfilter or apsfilter. 

> Third : I cannot have sound if I am not a super user or root, it will no
> open /dev/audio or /dev/dsp.

This is a permissions problem. 
My solution on my machine here:
I have a group called "audio". All my sound devices like /dev/audio*,  
/dev/dsp* etc. can be used by members of group "audio":
For example:
$ ls -l /dev/audio*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root audio  11 Mar 19  1997 /dev/audio -> /dev/audio0
crw--w--w-   1 root audio 14,   4 Mar 19  1997 /dev/audio0
crw--w--w-   1 root audio 14,  20 Mar 19  1997 /dev/audio1
   ^^
   ownergroup

So I put everyone, who wants to use sound in "audio" by:
$ adduser quake audio   
   
This adds the user "quake" to group "audio". Now "quake" can quake!


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[Q] Several questions

[Vladislav Papayan x285]

Hello,
as of this Sunday I downloaded and updated  almost of my
packages that now compiled with gnulibc6 (with exception
of X11 stuff).

I ran into a couple of problems and am not sure if I caused them.

1. After installing ldso, libc6, I installed libreadline2 -- that
some how deleted a link to my old readline that bash was dependent
on - so after I logged off I could not login into the system from 
anywhere -- bash was not executing.  Then I tried to go into
the system with the Debian installation diskettes (I have a version
that is based on kernel v 2.0.6) -- to see if the old libreadline
was saved somewhere but it was not.  I mounted my hd with
/usr/bin partition to see if I can run dpkg and install the latest
version of bash -- but dpkg did not run at all (this is what I do not
really understand: while in /target/usr/bin tried ./dpkg  and 
nothing happened). 
Before all that I tried to do the upgrade using dselect but the
update program exited with status 1 when installing libreadline --
this is why I started installing the lib myself.

I fixed the problem by doing two things:

a. substituted bash with ash (shell that comes on the installation disk)
-- this allowed my system to boot up to the point that hd
are mounted (all the init scripts use bash as a default shell)

b. changed my passwd file to allow root to login with cshell instead
of bash shell -- that allowed me get into the system and upgrade bash.


I just would like to know if next time I decide to do anything like
that -- what would be the preferred sequence of actions.




2.  After installing new bash -- I tried to compile my programs
nothing worked.  The problem was that my make files relied on 
determining operating system type by looking at OSTYPE env variable.
That variable was always defined as 'linux' now OSTYPE=gnu-linux.
I just wanted to know if this is now a standard and will be the
same for all the other linux distribution -- or should I use something
more stable to determine the OS type from makefiles.




3. gcc crashes consistently when compiling YACL (one of the C++
libraries I use) I get SIG 11 type of error.  Compiling kernel though
seems to be OK -- that is why I thing that there is something
wrong with a C++ portion of it.

I did install all the latest dev versions of glibc and g++ and the
latest CPP (I am not sure though if it has been updated for the
latest gcc)


Is there anything else I should install?




Thanks in advance,
Vladislav
 


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Re: debian system reachable by ftp

[dpk]

What shell do you use?  The shell must be contained in /etc/shells.

Thanks,
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On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Markus Diesmann wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a debian-1.3.1 system connected to the network
> but I cannot reach it by ftp. ftp denies access of
> any user. What do I have to do to allow users to use ftp?
> 
> Thanks,
> Markus
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ping? no messages today

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Is there any problem with the ML?
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Re: xdm broken during package additions.

[Fabrizio Polacco]

Young wrote:
> 
> I think it added xbooks but I don't believe I added xbase again which
> I would expect to change everything. It replaced many of the files X
> uses for configuration.
> 

It shouldn't.
But under Debian all configuration files are in /etc (and those for X11
are in /etc/X11 ).
Did you modifyed the files directly under /usr/X11R6/lib/... as other
distributions suggest?

I suggest you read /usr/doc/xbase/debian.README


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Re: using -l in gcc

[Daniel Martin]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Shaleh wrote:

> How do I make a library available to gcc -l i.e. gcc -lX11 or gcc
> -lmy_own_lib?  Same question applies to -i as well I suppose.
> 

If you only want it to happen for one command you can use the -I (that's a
capital "i") and -L switches; for example, if your libraries are in
/home/shaleh/lib and you headers in /home/shaleh/include:
gcc -L/home/shaleh/lib/ -I/home/shaleh/lib -lmy_own_lib -o foo foo.c
(note that the second option is a capital "i"; the third option is a
lowercase "L")

But what if you want to use this on more than just one command?  The
easiest way to do so is with environment variables; from the gcc info
pages:

`LIBRARY_PATH'
 The value of `LIBRARY_PATH' is a colon-separated list of
 directories, much like `PATH'.  GNU CC tries the directories thus
 specified when searching for special linker files, if it can't
 find them using `GCC_EXEC_PREFIX'.  Linking using GNU CC also uses
 these directories when searching for ordinary libraries for the
 `-l' option (but directories specified with `-L' come first).

`C_INCLUDE_PATH'
`CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH'
`OBJC_INCLUDE_PATH'
 These environment variables pertain to particular languages.  Each
 variable's value is a colon-separated list of directories, much
 like `PATH'.  When GNU CC searches for header files, it tries the
 directories listed in the variable for the language you are using,
 after the directories specified with `-I' but before the standard
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Re: problem with leafnode and gnus

[Frank Barknecht]

Gustaf Erikson hat gesagt: // Gustaf Erikson wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I'm having trouble setting up leafnode to read news. 
> 
> I installed leafnode w/o problems, followed the configuration
> described in the README and README.debian files, as well as an article
> in Linux Gazette #9. This article told me to log into my news server,
> run 'fetch' as root, start a news reader, subscribe to interesting
> groups, run fetch again. This should do it, according to the article.
> 
> However, after subscribing to c.o.l.misc and c.o.l.advocacy with gnus,
> I run fetch. It takes a long time. I check /var/spool/news, and see
> lots of directories for alt, gnu, soc, and uk. 

That's "a feature", I think. A lot of messages get crosspostet to groups
you don't have subscribed and you are not interested in. I even have 
/var/spool/news/microsoft/...  :(

> I don't want this. I
> abort. When I try to find something in the groups to which I've
> subscribed -- bubkis, nada, The Big Empty. Gnus cannot even open the
> groups. Netscape returns a pane with "syntax error". 
> 
> Any ideas?

leafnode is confused about which messages it has received and
where to put them. I had the same problem when I disrupted a "fetch".

Sureley it is not the best solution, but:
You could reinstall leafnode (sounds like MS Windows, but...), run fetch
again, "fetch -v -v" to be more verbose, and don't interrupt it!

Try seting the max number of messages to fetch to something lower than
the default 1000. For testing 50 should be enough. (In /etc/leafnode.conf )
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[OFF-TOPIC] rescue floppy error, hardware problem?

[David Morris]

This is only marginally connected to Debian, but since the Debian rescue
gave me a certain error I'm hoping someone can offer some insight.

I am trying to upgrade my motherboard from a 468sx-25 to a 486DX-2-66 CPU.
The motherboard supports it (according to the manual) and the CPU is
straight Intel. The problem...

I set all the jumpers correctly for CPU type, speed, bus speed (I have an
VLBus board set at 33MHz). I get everything all set and start the machine
and it does the system test, the Bios seems to find everything right, then
it goes to start the OS.

I normally boot to MS-DOS and from a config.sys menu choose windows or dos
or linux via loadlin. If I just let it run, booting from the hard drive
it just stops (warm-boot works so the system doesn't fully hang up). If I 
boot from a floppy it will display Loading MS-DOS and then either stop or
say "Divide Overflow". 

If I boot from the Debian Rescue floppy, I get all the wonderful help
screens with no problem and if I hit enter for the default boot it will
load root.bin and then start loading the kernel. Then the system will halt
with this message... 

invalid compressed format (err=2)

Do I have a buggy CPU (bought it cheap and used) or is there some
motherboard or BIOS setting I am completely missing. Or is there anything
else? When I put my old CPU in everything works with no problem.

As I said, off-topic, but the Debian error message might be more helpful
in figuring out what is the problem.
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Re: Nestcape and Errors

[Daniel Martin]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Mario Filipe wrote:

> 
>   Hi
> 
>   I have installed netscape 4.03 (non debianized)!
> 
>   When i run it i get a list of errors like 
> 
>   /usr/lib/netscape/pluggins/jar is not an ELF file ...
> 
> 
>   Has anyone seen this before ? How is it solved
> 

I saw this error, but that was because I had done something incorrect in
the install.  Basically, what I had done was move around all of the java
support files (these *.jar files) so that they'd appear in the classpath
(because when I first did the install, Netscape wouldn't load java and
complained that such-and-such a file wasn't in the classpath).  I suspect
that you did something similar, and that not only does java still not
work, but now you've got this error.

The fix I found was the following:

Make certain that all the *.jar files are in
/usr/lib/netscape/java/classes/ (I _hope_ that's the right name; not being
at my system at the moment, I'm guessing a bit).  This is where the debian
netscape4 installer package stuffs them, and should be where the netscape
installer put them if you told it to install in /usr/lib/netscape. 

This gets rid of the errors, but java still doesn't work.

To get java working, instead of the symbolic link that the debian package
creates, put the following script in /usr/X11R6/bin
#!/bin/sh
export MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/lib/netscape
exec /usr/lib/netscape/netscape

(Or I suppose you could define MOZILLA_HOME in your /etc/profile, or even
put /usr/lib/netscape in your path)

Moving the *.jar files to the proper directory and using this script to do
netscape works for me - no errors (well, not any I don't expect) and java
works.


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Re: what is bzimage?

[David S. Zelinsky]

Scott K. Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> bzimage can be used for a larger kernel image than zimage.  Some old boot
> loaders can't handle it (though the latest version of lilo and loadlin
> can).  There is also a problem booting them on some laptops.  For the most
> part, it doesn't matter though.

Thanks.  But what is it?

If my limited understanding is correct, zimage is just a compressed copy of
the kernel image.  Is bzimage the same, but using a different (better)
compression algorithm?

And is this documented somewhere?


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Re: Summer Time & Time Zone

[Marcelo Zacarias]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:

# 
# c) Keep your CMOS clock as GMT and let your computer to do the changes for
# you. See the `timezone' package. If your computer did not change
# automatically, this may be a bug in this package (it contains a database
# about when and how this changes should be made).
# 

I think the Brazil/East rules for changing from/to DST are not
correct.  I compiled the following rules using 'zic' from an
older distribution (timezone_7.48-3) since it seems that in
the current timezone package (timezone_7.55-2) this utility
is missing.


# Rule NAMEFROMTO  TYPE  IN ON  AT SAVE LETTER/S
Rule   Brazil  1996max - OctSun>=5  0:00   1:00 S
Rule   Brazil  1996max - FebSun>=12 0:00   0D

# Zone  NAMEGMTOFF  RULES/SAVE  FORMAT [UNTIL]
ZoneBrazil/East -3:00   Brazil  E%sT
ZoneBrazil/West -4:00   Brazil  W%sT
ZoneBrazil/Acre -5:00   Brazil  A%sT
ZoneBrazil/DeNoronha-2:00   Brazil  F%sT


Marcelo.



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Re: Pentium overdrive based machine

[Matt Thompson]

Yes, I have a OD-MMX166 that I've overclocked to 208mhz.  The only
difference between an OD and a standard is a voltage regulator, a built in
heatsink/fan, and the fact that you can't change the internal clock
multiplier, even with jumpers on the mb (i've tried :)  ).

a cpu is a cpu, more or less.

matty

> Hi there,
> 
>   Is it possible to install debian on a Pentium overdrive based machine?
> 
>   Regards,
> 
> 
> CT
> NCSU, Raleigh, NC, USA
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Re: GIMP

[Matt Thompson]

No, I'm running 1.3.1 and I deselect several times per week to stay
updated.

matty
> 
> Are you by any chance using Debian 1.2?  I had that, and it seemed to have
> all sorts of problems with X libraries.  I upgraded to 1.3 and everything
> worked fine.
> 
> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:
> 
> > hello, all,
> > 
> > I tried to install the GIMP and xtar, and when trying to run both, I get
> > the same error message:
> > 
> > xtar: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'   ...and:
> > gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'
> > 
> > ???
> > 
> > matty
> > 
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using -l in gcc

[Shaleh]

How do I make a library available to gcc -l i.e. gcc -lX11 or gcc
-lmy_own_lib?  Same question applies to -i as well I suppose.


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Re: iostream

[Alex Yukhimets]

> Were you able to find the libg++ package? If you did, can you send me
> the URL of the package?

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/stable/binary/devel/libg++27-dev_2.7.2.1-8.deb

and

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/stable/binary/libs/libg++27_2.7.2.1-8.deb

Best,

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Re: GIMP

[Britton]

Are you by any chance using Debian 1.2?  I had that, and it seemed to have
all sorts of problems with X libraries.  I upgraded to 1.3 and everything
worked fine.

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:

> hello, all,
> 
> I tried to install the GIMP and xtar, and when trying to run both, I get
> the same error message:
> 
> xtar: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'   ...and:
> gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'
> 
> ???
> 
> matty
> 
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Re: what is bzimage?

[Scott Ellis]

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On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, David S. Zelinsky wrote:

> I went to build a custom kernel with make-kpkg, and noticed the option
> to build a `zimage' kernel, instead of `bzimage' kernel ("the default").
> But I can't find any documentation anywhere of what the difference is
> between these two.  I've looked in the Kernel-HOWTO, and in all the
> documentation in /usr/src/linux.
> 
> So, can someone explain what `bzimage' is, and why I might or might not
> want it?  Thanks.

bzimage can be used for a larger kernel image than zimage.  Some old boot
loaders can't handle it (though the latest version of lilo and loadlin
can).  There is also a problem booting them on some laptops.  For the most
part, it doesn't matter though.


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Re: X server or window manager dies when changing virtual terminals.

[nels0988]

> > I have been having a problem that has now gotten really bad with the 
> > new Netscape 4.03.  When I am using X and change to one of the other 
> > virtual terminals then come back to X the server shuts down and I end 
> > up back at the xdm prompt.  It is almost guaranteed to happen with 
> > Netscape 4.03 and sometimes with tkmail.  It is rare if there are 
> > only xterm or rxvt sessions running.  Any ideas would be great.  
> > Thanks for the help.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> 
> Have you looked to see what's in .xsession-errors after this problem
> happens?  Don't log back in via xdm, as that would zero it out; switch to
> a text console, log in, and copy the .xsession-errors file to some other
> name so that it won't be overwritten next time you log on via xdm.

I've got an even wierder problem.

Before I disabled acceleration (XAA), I could reliably cause my xserver
to lock up the entire machine -- no external logins, control-alt-delete,
etc...



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Re: Printing is landscape

[Andrew Martin Adrian Cater \[Andy\]]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Lindsay Allen wrote:

> 
> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Carl Fink wrote:
> 
> > I've just installed my new NEC SuperScript 100C printer and configured
> > my Debian 1.3.1 system to print to it.
>  
> [snip]
> 
> > Now everything works.  The SuperScript 100C is set up as a Deskjet
> > 500, which it emulates.  Printing to raw works okay, but printing to
> > GhostScript via apsfilter produces really tiny type, in landscape.
> > 
> > I checked the GS docs, the apsfilter docs, the lpr docs (which don't
> > actually exist), the man pages, the printcap man page . . . there is
> > *no* ocurrence of the words "portrait" or "landscape" in those
> > documents.  This is really weird.
> 
> You need to check
>the a2ps man page
>/etc/apdfilterrc
> 
> This should solve the landscape problem, but I don't know about the point
> size.
> 
> I have my own problems with apsfilter.  When printing ascii to "auto" it
> skips the a2ps step and the output comes out just as if it were printed
> via "raw".  Any ideas on this one?  Would somebody who has it working send
> me the log file of a print job?
> 
> Lindsay
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1. apsfilterrc - This has settings for 1 page / 2 page / 1 landscape etc.
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Re: Implementing callback

[Gergely Madarasz]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote:

> 
> What I would like to do to automate this process. I have tried a couple
> chatscripts but after the login prompt and response is sent, the ATA is
> never seen, and thus, the call is never answered.

First you should make chat not aborting with 'NO CARRIER'
Then... after you send the login name for callback, you wait for RING, and
then send ATA...

Greg

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debian system reachable by ftp

[Markus Diesmann]

Hi,

I have a debian-1.3.1 system connected to the network
but I cannot reach it by ftp. ftp denies access of
any user. What do I have to do to allow users to use ftp?

Thanks,
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Re: reading excel documents?

[Gernot Bauer]

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>
> Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I am sometimes e-mailed microsoft excel documents while running Linux.
> > Is there anyway to read those files without booting into Win95?
> 
> You can also try wine + excel itself.
> I've heard some new versions of wine can run excel for win3.1.
> 
> twin instead of wine could also be used.

Or you could use the Mac-emulator "executor" (www.ardi.com) and run the
mac-binaries...

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xfree86 3.2 and cirrus 5446

[Corey A]

Hi All;

I'm setting up linux on a friend machine from an old cheapbytes Debian 1.2 CD
and all went well except for the Xfree Config.  Now I've tried the
XF86Setup and xf86config and read the howto's and readme's and taken the
advice given 
ie: config as 5430, noaccel , no linear and some other PCI related stuff
I was wondering if anybody had experience with that chipset and xfree86 3.2

thanks

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what is bzimage?

[David S. Zelinsky]

I went to build a custom kernel with make-kpkg, and noticed the option
to build a `zimage' kernel, instead of `bzimage' kernel ("the default").
But I can't find any documentation anywhere of what the difference is
between these two.  I've looked in the Kernel-HOWTO, and in all the
documentation in /usr/src/linux.

So, can someone explain what `bzimage' is, and why I might or might not
want it?  Thanks.


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Implementing callback

[Walter L. Preuninger II]

Thanks to all that recently helped me with my 'peer refuses to
authenticate' problem.

Now I have gone 1 step further, and tried to implement callback for
security reasons.

I can does all of this manually by:
1) Connecting with minicom to the remote box
2) Logging in with a userid/password specified in /etc/mgetty/login.config
3) This session goes off hook, and minicom displays 'RING' when the remote
system calls me back
4) I answer the call with ATA
5) I enter a userid/password on the remote box
6) start pppd on the remote bax, ie ppp7
7) I leave minicom, without resetting the modem
8) On my box, is issue pppd /dev/ttyS2

For this point on... a ppp connection is established and I have full range
of access to every machine at work. They now pay for the call, and I know
that it's really me dialing in. :)

What I would like to do to automate this process. I have tried a couple
chatscripts but after the login prompt and response is sent, the ATA is
never seen, and thus, the call is never answered.

As a side note, can windows/95 establish a connection like this? 

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route does not show all networks by name

[Walter L. Preuninger II]

I have 4 network cards a poor old 486-66. When I run route I see all
routes fine, except for the -net entries. These are displayed in dotted
quad instead of name.

/etc/networks contains the following:

localnet127.0.0.1
corenet 192.168.0.0
loannet 192.160.0.32
depnet  192.160.0.64

I feel this has some thing to do with my subnet mask of 255.255.255.224,
so what do i do?

Thanks,

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iostream

[Paul Fitzpatrick]

Were you able to find the libg++ package? If you did, can you send me
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Pentium overdrive based machine

[Chi-tsung Wu]

Hi there,

  Is it possible to install debian on a Pentium overdrive based machine?

  Regards,


CT
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msdos file system

[Mike Lucius]

Just loaded Linux for the 1st time. I would like to know how to create
an msdos file system. I think I need other files installed on my system
but have not been able to figure out what or how.

Thanks


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Re: How to use the Compose key?

[Ana Silva]

> I have the following flags in my inputrc set:
> 
> set meta-flag on
> set output-meta on
> set convert-meta off
> 
> See the readline(3) manpage for more information about the meaning of
> the flags.
> 
> Torsten
> 
Thanks!I've just got it working :).
Someone have mailed me another solution and it worked. I just have
to run XF86Setup and set my keboard to accept sepecial characters, but
thanks anyway!

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Nestcape and Errors

[Mario Filipe]

Hi

I have installed netscape 4.03 (non debianized)!

When i run it i get a list of errors like 

/usr/lib/netscape/pluggins/jar is not an ELF file ...


Has anyone seen this before ? How is it solved

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Re: Summer Time & Time Zone

[Santiago Vila Doncel]

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>   October, 6 was the beginning of the summer time here in Brazil.
>   Our clock was advanced an hour. 
>   What is the best solution to this problem: 
>   a- changing clock - how?
>   b- changing date - how? 
>   c- other (I would appreciate something here)

c) Keep your CMOS clock as GMT and let your computer to do the changes for
you. See the `timezone' package. If your computer did not change
automatically, this may be a bug in this package (it contains a database
about when and how this changes should be made).

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Re: X server or window manager dies when changing virtual terminals.

[Daniel Martin]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, R Chris Ross wrote:

>   I have been having a problem that has now gotten really bad with the 
> new Netscape 4.03.  When I am using X and change to one of the other 
> virtual terminals then come back to X the server shuts down and I end 
> up back at the xdm prompt.  It is almost guaranteed to happen with 
> Netscape 4.03 and sometimes with tkmail.  It is rare if there are 
> only xterm or rxvt sessions running.  Any ideas would be great.  
> Thanks for the help.
> 
>   Chris
> 

Have you looked to see what's in .xsession-errors after this problem
happens?  Don't log back in via xdm, as that would zero it out; switch to
a text console, log in, and copy the .xsession-errors file to some other
name so that it won't be overwritten next time you log on via xdm.

DANIEL MARTIN


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Faking out dpkg/dselect

[Daniel Martin]

I've been having some real annoyances lately with packages not wanting to
install for me because I'm supposedly missing one of the Depends:
packages.

The root of the problem is that I'm using Mule, from the debian-jp
distribution since I want to be able to compose Japanese, read/send
Japanese e-mail, etc.  Now, like xemacs, the mule package conflicts with
emacs, so when I installed it dpkg uninstalled emacs.  Since mule provides
emacs, this isn't too bad for most packages that depend on emacs. 

However, this is a serious problem for packages that want emacs of some
certain version.  For instance, I can't install calc, tm, bbdb, etc.
because they all have some dependency line similar to:
Depends: emacs (>= 19.29)
This goes back to, I guess, the general problem that debian virtual
packages don't allow version numbers.  In any case, does anyone know of
some way to trick dpkg into thinking that I have emacs 19.34 installed?

Of course, if there were a debian package of emacs 20.x, that would just
solve my problems as well, since I could then replace mule with that.
However, given that it's been out for less than a month (the file date on
ftp.gnu.ai.mit.edu is Sep 20) I can understand why the package maintainer
hasn't issued one yet.

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scroll-back buffer

[Paul Miller]

How can I clear the scroll-back buffer when a use logs out (other than
changing tty's)?

-Paul


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Controlling the FPU under Linux

[Thomas SCHIEX]

Hello,

I'd like to know if anybody has experience in finely controlling the FPU
under Linux (I'm under Debian 1.3.1). I need to control the rounding mode of
the FPU (rounding up or down instead of "to nearest").

I found /usr/include/i386/fpucontrol, but I cannot get the following program
to give at least 2 different results. Any idea ?

Thomas

#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 

main()
{
  double a;

  a = 1.0/3.0;
  printf("%.30f\n",a);

  __setfpucw(0x1b72);
  a = 1.0/3.0;
  __setfpucw(0x1372);
  
  printf("%.30f\n",a);

  __setfpucw(0x1772);
  a = 1.0/3.0;
  __setfpucw(0x1372);
  
  printf("%.30f\n",a);
  return(0);
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Re: Summer Time & Time Zone

[Thomas Baetzler]

Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
:   October, 6 was the beginning of the summer time here in Brazil.
:   Our clock was advanced an hour. 
:   What is the best solution to this problem: 

Configure the proper timezone for your system using tzconfig from the
command line, and it will know when to switch to/from DST. 

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Re: its a known bug. who is fixing it? Re: "free" command stuffed

[Richard Braakman]

Manong Dibos wrote:
> I noticed this bug on my box a few months ago.   No fix has been proposed.
> Prolly a problem for the upstream maintainer?
> 
> On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Richard L Shepherd wrote:
> >  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
> > Mem:386536 380196   6340  22472 202704
> > -/+ buffers:   1774923997940
> > Swap:   130748380 130368  69604

This problem has actually been hashed out in the bug reports (six of
them), and there is even a patch (#12027).

It's just not being fixed.

Time for a non-maintainer upload, perhaps?


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Re: Summer Time & Time Zone

[Oliver Elphick]

Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
  >
  >Hi,
  >
  > October, 6 was the beginning of the summer time here in Brazil.
  > Our clock was advanced an hour. 
  > What is the best solution to this problem: 
  > a- changing clock - how?
  > b- changing date - how? 
  > c- other (I would appreciate something here)

Load the timezones package; then set the TZ variable appropriately in
/etc/timezone.

It should contain a single line:

Brazil/

where  is one of:

 Acre   DeNoronha  East   West

If you want to change the timezone for a particular session, redefine the
environment variable, TZ, by a shell command (Bourne-shell syntax):

export TZ=Brazil/

The available timezones are files under /usr/share/zoneinfo.


Full information in the libc info files, under Calendar Time.

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X server or window manager dies when changing virtual terminals.

[R Chris Ross]

I have been having a problem that has now gotten really bad with the 
new Netscape 4.03.  When I am using X and change to one of the other 
virtual terminals then come back to X the server shuts down and I end 
up back at the xdm prompt.  It is almost guaranteed to happen with 
Netscape 4.03 and sometimes with tkmail.  It is rare if there are 
only xterm or rxvt sessions running.  Any ideas would be great.  
Thanks for the help.

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Re: Printing is landscape

[Bob Nielsen]

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Carl Fink wrote:

> 
> Now everything works.  The SuperScript 100C is set up as a Deskjet
> 500, which it emulates.  Printing to raw works okay, but printing to
> GhostScript via apsfilter produces really tiny type, in landscape.
> 
> I checked the GS docs, the apsfilter docs, the lpr docs (which don't
> actually exist), the man pages, the printcap man page . . . there is
> *no* ocurrence of the words "portrait" or "landscape" in those
> documents.  This is really weird.
> 
> So:  how can I convince GhostScript to print portrait, and maybe in
> larger type, from apsfilter?  Note that my video card (Trident
> TGUI9680-based) is not supported by SVGALIB, which I understand
> matters sometimes.

apsfilter uses a2ps to do the ascii-postscript conversion and the default
is 2-up, landscape.  You can change this if you want.  What I do to get
portrait printing is use enscript in a simple script:

enscript -l $1

Bob


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OS tests: Linux proves to be one of the most stable

[Douglas Bates]

I enclose the abstract from a talk that Bart Miller will be giving
today in our Computer Sciences Department.  It is interesting to note
that in this series of tests Linux proved to be one of the most stable
versions of Unix, more stable than commercial versions.  He lists the
GNU utilities as a separate entry.  I think that means that he is
testing the GNU utilities compiled on systems other than GNU/Linux.

His web page
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bart/
may contain more information on the study.
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 06:00:09 -0500 (CDT)
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Subject: Today's Events


2:30 pm, 2310 CS
Operating Systems and Networking Seminar:   Barton  P.  Miller,  University  of
   Wisconsin, Madison, "Making Programs Explode: Using Simple Random Testing on
   Real Programs"

In 1990, we published the results of a  study  of  the  reliability  of
   standard  UNIX  utility  programs.  This  study  showed that by using simple
   (almost simplistic) random testing techniques, we could crash or hang 25-33%
   of  the  these  utility  programs.  Recently,  we repeated and significantly
   extended this study using the same basic techniques: subjecting programs  to
   random  input  streams. A distressingly large number of UNIX utilities still
   crash with our tests.

We tested a wide variety of utility programs on  nine  UNIX  platforms.
   The  programs  were  sent  random input streams.  We used a conservative and
   crude measure of reliability: a  program  is  considered  unreliable  if  it
   crashes  with a core dump or hangs (infinite loop). We used the random test-
   ing to also test X-Window applications and  servers,  network  servers,  and
   system library interfaces.

The major results of this study are: (1) In the last  five  years,  all
   previously-tested versions of UNIX made noticeable improvements in the reli-
   ability of their utilities.  But ... the failure rate of  these  systems  is
   still  distressingly  high (from 18-23% in the recent study). (3) Even worse
   is that many of the same bugs that we reported in 1990 are still present  in
   the  recent  code releases. (4) The failure rate of utilities on the commer-
   cial versions of UNIX that we tested (from Sun, IBM,  SGI,  DEC,  and  NEXT)
   ranged  from 15 to 43%. (5) The failure rate of the utilities on the freely-
   distributed Linux version of UNIX was second-lowest, at 9%. (6) The  failure
   rate  of  the  public GNU utilities was the lowest in our study, at only 7%.
   (7) We could not crash network services on any of the versions of UNIX  that
   we  tested. (8) Almost 60% of the X-Window applications that we tested crash
   or hang on purely random input data streams (random binary data).  More sig-
   nificant  is that more than 25% of the applications crash or hang given ran-
   dom, but legal X-event streams. (9) We could not crash X server on the  ver-
   sions  of  UNIX  that  we  tested  (i.e., sending random data streams to the
   server).

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Re: Q: X-Windows Fails

[jdassen]

On Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 05:43:22AM -, Dean C. Sullinger wrote:
> Once dselect was done, I tried to execute X and all I got was a gray
> screen with my mouse pointer.

Let me guess, you started it as "X", right? Try starting it with "startx".

Ray
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Re: Q: X-Windows Fails

[Will Lowe]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Dean C. Sullinger wrote:

> sits there and stares at me.  I have to press Ctrl+Alt+Bksp
> to exit out and then the text screen is so hosed that I
> can't read anything.
Sounds like X is starting ok,  but you need to start a window manager.
Make a .xinitrc file in your home directory,  the last line of which
should read 

exec fvwm

then you'll also need to copy the (attached to this message) sample.fvwmrc
file to ~/.fvwmrc,  and you'll be able to startx ok.  Check "man fvwmrc"
for the fvwmrc format,  and change the default one I've provided.

Will


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Bad Idea:   Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear.
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# Unfortunately, order does matter in this file
# The correct order for inserting configurations is:
# 1. Colors
# 2. Assorted configuration paramters such as ClickToFocus, or MWMBorders
# 3. Path setup (ModulePath, PixmapPath, IconPath)
# 4. Style settings, including the default style Style "*" ...
# 5. InitFunction and ResetFunction definitions.
# 6. Other Functions. Functions cannot be forward referenced from
#   other functions, but they can be backward referenced.
# 7. Menus definitions. Same caveats about forward referencing
# 8. Key and Mouse Bindings.
# 9. Module options.

# The order of steps 5, 6, and 7 is not critical, as long as there are
# no forward references to functions or menus.

# If you get it wrong, the most common problem is that color or font settings
# are ignored


###
# set up the colors

StdForeColorBlack
StdBackColorGrey

# this is used for the selected window
HiForeColor White
HiBackColor DarkGreen

StickyForeColor Black
 
# Menu colors
MenuForeColor   Black
MenuBackColor   grey
MenuStippleColorSlateGrey
# fvwm2
Notitle xconsole
Noborder xconsole
NoBorder xclock
NoBorder xbiff
NoBorder xpostit



# Now the fonts - one for menus, another for window titles, another for icons
Font-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
#Font   -*-times-medium-i-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*
WindowFont  -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
#IconFont   -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-11-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
IconFontfixed

###
# Set up the major operating modes
#
  FOCUS STUFF ##
# Set windows to auto-raise after 750 milliseconds if you like it.
# Autoraise can sometimes obscure pop-up windows. Performance is now
# similar to olvwm's auto-raise feature.
#AutoRaise 750

# Normally, we'll be in focus-follows mouse mode, but uncomment this 
# for mwm-style click-to-focus
#ClickToFocus

  ICON STUFF ##
# Auto Place Icons is a nice feature
# This creates two icon boxes, one on the left side, then one on the
# bottom. Leaves room in the upper left for my clock and xbiff,
# room on the bottom for the Pager.
#IconBox -150 90 -5 -140
#IconBox 5 -140 -140 -5
IconBox -70 1 -1 -140

# If you uncomment this, and make sure that the WindowList is bound to
# something, it works pretty much like an icon manager.
#SuppressIcons

# StubbornIcons makes icons de-iconify into their original position on the
# desktop, instead of on the current page.
#StubbornIcons

# With AutoPlacement, icons will normally place themselves underneath active
# windows. This option changes that.
#StubbornIconPlacement

# If you want ALL you icons to follow you around the desktop (Sticky), try
# this
#StickyIcons

Sticky xbiff
Sticky xpostit
Sticky xclock

NoTitle xbiff
NoTitle xclock
NoTitle xpostit

CirculateSkip xbiff
CirculateSkip xpostit
CirculateSkip xclock
CirculateSkip xconsole

  MWM EMULATION ###
#
# My feeling is that everyone should use MWMDecorHints and MWMFunctionHints,
# since some applications depend on having the window manager respect them

# MWMFunction hints parses the function information in the MOTIF_WM_HINTS
# property, and prohibits use of these functions on the window. Appropriate
# portions of the window decorations are removed.
MWMFunctionHints

# MWM is kinda picky about what can be done to transients, and it was keeping
# me from iconifying some windows that I like to iconify, so here's an
# over-ride that will allow me to do the operati

Q: X-Windows Fails

[Dean C. Sullinger]

OK, next question.  While I installed Debian 1.3.0 on my
Compaq Server, DSelect took me through the configuration
of X-Windows.  The server has a SVGA card installed.  I
selected a standard SVGA card and a standard SVGA
monitor.  The configuration program engaged just fine.
I selected my mouse and made the needed settings
and it worked fine.  Once dselect was done, I tried to
execute X and all I got was a gray screen with my mouse
pointer.  The mouse works fine, but that's all, it just
sits there and stares at me.  I have to press Ctrl+Alt+Bksp
to exit out and then the text screen is so hosed that I
can't read anything.

Any help would be great.

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formatting logical partition

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi,

I have a 2GB hd with the following partitions:
~ 700MB for /
~ 600MB for /home
~  80MB for swap
I would like to do 2 new partitions on the remainning free
space. So I did an extended partition using the whole space and 
in this extended part. 2 Linux Native partitions. 
1st Q. Is this correct? Is there other approach?
2nd Q. If correct, how can I prepare the Linux partition
inside the extended one? With mk2efs?
Thanks,

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
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Summer Time & Time Zone

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi,

October, 6 was the beginning of the summer time here in Brazil.
Our clock was advanced an hour. 
What is the best solution to this problem: 
a- changing clock - how?
b- changing date - how? 
c- other (I would appreciate something here)

Thanks,

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21


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Re: reading excel documents?

[Alair Pereira do Lago]

Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am sometimes e-mailed microsoft excel documents while running Linux.
> Is there anyway to read those files without booting into Win95?

You can also try wine + excel itself.
I've heard some new versions of wine can run excel for win3.1.

twin instead of wine could also be used.

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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

[Matt Thompson]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
hello,

i personally have, as my primary drive, an IBM Deskstar 3.6gb. it's *fast*
for an eide drive.  it was rated fastest by a major computing magazine,
although i forget which one.  it definitely lives up to the billing. they
run about $250 new from several outlets (insight, pczone, cdw, etc.)

hope this helps,
matty
> On Sat, Oct 11, 1997 at 08:38:23PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > Simon Karpen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Which WD drives have you had good luck with?
> > > I have yet to see a recent one last more than a year...
> > 
> > I have several (3) old Caviar drives.  One is a 170 meg and the other
> > two are 540 meg.  One is six years old; the other, probably about 5;
> > and the third is about the same.  All worked fine for at least the
> > first 4-5 years of their life even though they were powered up
> > 24/7/365.  The 170 developed some bad sectors about 1/2 year ago; the
> > younger 540 meg had the same problem at about the same time.  The
> > 5-year-old 540 meg is still going strong.
> > 
> > Considering that they were all cheap IDE drives, originally installed
> > in a poorly-ventilated case, it is not bad.
> 
> I have similar good experiences with WD. I have a 730mb which is nearly
> 3 years old (light load, 24/7 operation) which works fine; actually
> come to think of it I have an old 340mb from about 4-5 years ago
> which has been running 24/7 for the last two years with no problems.
> The 730 has a bad sector or two and is quite noisy now but is otherwise
> fine. I have a 1.6GB in my workstation which is nearly two years old.
> I also have a Quantum 3.2Gb of about one year in this machine
> and I find the Quantum to be a bit slower. I would probably buy WD again,
> although I would want ultra DMA next, or maybe even SCSI (which WD
> don't do?)
> 
> 
> Hamish
> 
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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Sat, Oct 11, 1997 at 08:38:23PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> Simon Karpen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Which WD drives have you had good luck with?
> > I have yet to see a recent one last more than a year...
> 
> I have several (3) old Caviar drives.  One is a 170 meg and the other
> two are 540 meg.  One is six years old; the other, probably about 5;
> and the third is about the same.  All worked fine for at least the
> first 4-5 years of their life even though they were powered up
> 24/7/365.  The 170 developed some bad sectors about 1/2 year ago; the
> younger 540 meg had the same problem at about the same time.  The
> 5-year-old 540 meg is still going strong.
> 
> Considering that they were all cheap IDE drives, originally installed
> in a poorly-ventilated case, it is not bad.

I have similar good experiences with WD. I have a 730mb which is nearly
3 years old (light load, 24/7 operation) which works fine; actually
come to think of it I have an old 340mb from about 4-5 years ago
which has been running 24/7 for the last two years with no problems.
The 730 has a bad sector or two and is quite noisy now but is otherwise
fine. I have a 1.6GB in my workstation which is nearly two years old.
I also have a Quantum 3.2Gb of about one year in this machine
and I find the Quantum to be a bit slower. I would probably buy WD again,
although I would want ultra DMA next, or maybe even SCSI (which WD
don't do?)


Hamish

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thanks Re: freeware/shaware collection

[Wiria Amadja Kusuma]

thank you for all your help, I usually do find all my application from
sunsite.unc, thanks again.
-Original Message-
From: George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Wiria Amadja Kusuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 1997 2:22 AM
Subject: RE: freeware/shaware collection


>
>What, sunsite isn't good enough for you?
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/!INDEX.html
>
>
>On 12-Oct-97 Wiria Amadja Kusuma wrote:
>>Hi guys, I am wondering if there is any website on the net which provides
us
>>freeware or software specifically for linux, something like tucows, nonags
>>or download.com for windooz.
>>
>>thanks
>>kusuma
>>
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Re: man-db ocassionally needs to be re-installed.

[Fabrizio Polacco]

Joey Hess wrote:
> 
> You might want to refer to bug reports #10483, #11278, etc at
> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/pa/lman-db.html - the maintainer is
> aware of the problem, and I hope he figures out a fix soon.
> 

I have all the reports, but I wasn't able to reproduce the problem in
any way.
I've prepared an unstripped executable that could permit you to debug
the core (or reproduce the segfault while in gdb) to help me figure
what's the problem.
It's in  ftp://ftp.icenet.fi/private/fpolacco/debian/temp/man.gz

It looks that the problem is related to a "corrupted" database (thus
rebuilding it with mandb -c fixes the problem), but it's not clear "how"
the database went corrupted.
The installation of other manpages could be the trigger because man
tryes to upgrade the database when it notices a new manpage.
The bug should be related with bad behaviour for unexpected input.

Finding the manpage that produces this could help a lot.

Fabrizio
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Re: Printing info nodes.

[Carey Evans]

"Shaul Karl." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I want to print all the nodes of mgetty info. If possible, I would like to 
> format it nicely before I print it.
> Can I do it non interactively ?
> In particular, is there something like "groff -man" ?

If you get the source with the .texi file, you can use texi2dvi to
make a *very* nice printable output.

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Re: Where is the StarOffice debianized package?

[Martin Schulze]

Francesco Potorti` writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I read some weeks ago about a StarOffice debianized package that was
> in non-free, but I couldn't find it on ftp.debian.org, either in
> non-free or hamm/non-free.
> 
> What happened to it?  Is it so well hidden?  I also made searches in
> the Packages file for "staroffice", "star", "office" without results.

It's located in hamm/contrib.

Regards

Joey

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Re: Q: Installing more Debian packages

[Daniel Doro Ferrante]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Dean C. Sullinger wrote:

> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:58:38 -
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> Subject: Q: Installing more Debian packages
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> I am having several problems with my Debian installation,
> but I thought I would ask the questions one at a time.
> 
> My first questions has to do with the Debian Packages.
> I have a new installation of Debian 1.3.0 on a Compaq
> 486/33 Server with a 1.2GB SCSI HD and 32MB RAM.
> I have installed the base system with VERY few extras
> (Emacs and such).  I now have it up and running as a
> Intranet FTP Server, but now I would like to add some
> additional packages.  How do I go about adding them,
> do I use DSelect?  Or do I use dpkg?  If I use dpkg,
> how do I prevent conflicts?  I've looked over the install
> docs and saw nothing on this.
> 

I tried to use dselect several times do perform tasks like that, but
unfortunatelly I have had no success at all. If I were you I would use
_dpkg_ and this is the command that dselect performs: dpkg -iGROEB .

This command prevents downgrading, conflicts, etc, etc, etc... Up
to now it has worked great for me, I have always done my upgrades by
hand... :)

Daniel.


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Re: Printing is landscape

[Daniel Doro Ferrante]

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Lindsay Allen wrote:

> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:39:17 +0800 (WST)
> From: Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: Printing is landscape
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> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Carl Fink wrote:
> 
> > I've just installed my new NEC SuperScript 100C printer and configured
> > my Debian 1.3.1 system to print to it.
>  
> [snip]
> 
> > Now everything works.  The SuperScript 100C is set up as a Deskjet
> > 500, which it emulates.  Printing to raw works okay, but printing to
> > GhostScript via apsfilter produces really tiny type, in landscape.
> > 
> > I checked the GS docs, the apsfilter docs, the lpr docs (which don't
> > actually exist), the man pages, the printcap man page . . . there is
> > *no* ocurrence of the words "portrait" or "landscape" in those
> > documents.  This is really weird.
> 
> You need to check
>the a2ps man page
>/etc/apdfilterrc
> 
> This should solve the landscape problem, but I don't know about the point
> size.
> 
> I have my own problems with apsfilter.  When printing ascii to "auto" it
> skips the a2ps step and the output comes out just as if it were printed
> via "raw".  Any ideas on this one?  Would somebody who has it working send
> me the log file of a print job?

I had a lot of toubles like this using apsfilter, besides I could not
manage to print from emacs or from inside another program... The only way
out was changing to _magicfilter_, and blieve me, it was a really good
change ! :) In my opinion, magicfilter is a lot better than apsfilter, at
least for me it works better.


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Q: Installing more Debian packages

[Dean C. Sullinger]

I am having several problems with my Debian installation,
but I thought I would ask the questions one at a time.

My first questions has to do with the Debian Packages.
I have a new installation of Debian 1.3.0 on a Compaq
486/33 Server with a 1.2GB SCSI HD and 32MB RAM.
I have installed the base system with VERY few extras
(Emacs and such).  I now have it up and running as a
Intranet FTP Server, but now I would like to add some
additional packages.  How do I go about adding them,
do I use DSelect?  Or do I use dpkg?  If I use dpkg,
how do I prevent conflicts?  I've looked over the install
docs and saw nothing on this.

Thank you.

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Re: depmod: error reading ELF header

[Martin Dinkloh]

> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:14:24 +0800 (WST)
> From: Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I'm pretty sure that this is due to ascii files in with the *.o files.
> Look for ascii files in all subdirectories of /lib/modules/2.x.yz/ and
> remove them.
> 
Thank you very much, that solved the problem! I removed 
/lib/modules/2.x.yz completely and did a 'make modules modules_install'
on the kernel source. 

Martin


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YASQ (yet another sendmail question)

[Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler]

Hi,

 I've a small "intranet" running with debian. In fact, there are only two
 machines which are not connected to the internet.
 I don't use a name server on either of the machines, it's not needed.
 Addresses are read from /etc/hosts.

 I use the latest sendmail package but can't send mail from one computer to
 the other. I get something like 'Deferred: p4.: Name server : hostname lookup
 failure". Well, I don't understand what happens. I configured sendmail to not
 use any name server (FEATURE(nodns)), so there shouldn't be the cause.
 Address canonification works fine when I turn it on in sendmail.mc, so
 there's no trouble with /etc/hosts (ping,telnet,ftp and samba are ok as well)

 Is this a problem with the current sendmail package? I remember correctly, when
 I used another distribution a year ago, I solved this by recompiling sendmail.

 Any ideas what could be wrong or what I could try? Thanks,

  Ulf.


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Problems with DLL's depending on other DLL's

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

Hello all!
 Last time I have installed Postgres 6.1 on my Linux box. Because this
version is not available as debian package yet, I've decided to install it
in a dedicated subdirectory in /usr/local.
 The libpq.so library is located in /usr/local/pgsql/lib, so I've added
the apropriate line to /etc/ld.so.conf and ran ldconfig. 
 Problems started when I compiled pgsql_perl5 extension. 
 When perl tried to load the Pg.so library, which depends on libpq.so -
I've received message "file not found".
I checked dependencies of Pg.so and got following results:
./Pg.so => ./Pg.so
libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.4.20
libpq.so => not found
ld.so was unable to find libpq, even though it's directory was included in
/etc/ld.so.conf!
I've investigated the problem more thoroughly. It appeared, that ld.so is
able to find libpq only in following cases:
1) If it is located in /usr/lib
2) If I add /usr/local/pgsql/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH
It is interesting, that this problem occures only in situation when one
DLL depends on another one. When I write C program using libpq,
modification of /etc/ld.so.conf is sufficient.

 Does anybody could explain to me this effect? How to cure it?
 Setting of LD_LIBRARY_PATH in /etc/profile is not the best solution,
because it will not affect programs started by init.d scripts (for example
I would like to enable apache WWW server to utilize the pgsql_perl5).

Thanks in advance
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Re: can't load library

[Waller Martin MEJ]

>Hi!
>My problem is the following:
>I tried to install XFree86 on my linux. Now I've got all files but I
>can't set up the XWindows because when I run "XF86Setup" I get the error
>message "can't load libXaw.so.6".
>Can anybody help me?

Hi!

 Check a file called /etc/ld.conf.  In it look for the line:

 /usr/lib/X11R6

 If the line:

 /usr/lib/X11R5 is there, replace it with the line above.

Hope this helps - I had the same problem with Debian 1.2.

 Martin


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XFree, libc-6 and Netscape

[Peter Mutsaers]

Hi,

I installed libc-6 and the latest XFree from unstable. This XFree
works only with libc-6 apparently.

Now when I want to run Netscape, which needs libc-5, it cannot find
the X11 libs.

If I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/X11R6/lib, Netscape will find the X11
libs, but it will load both libc-5 and libc-6, resulting in a core
dump.

Since the new X11 libs (the ones for use with libc-6) use the same
major version number, it is impossible to have both the old (for use
with libc-5) and the new X11 libs simultaneously.

Q: Should the new X11 lib version not have a new major version number?
   How can I use unstable (libc-6 and the new X11 libs) and use
   Netscape?

Thanks,

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Debian project leader speaks in Concord, California, October 17-19

[Bruce Perens]

Dear Debian Developers and Users,

I'll not be speaking about Debian, but about something else I care
about, ham radio. The "Pacificon" ARRL convention at the Concord
(California) Hilton will be held on October 17-19. Any Debian folks who
want to stop by and say hello (I think admission is $3) can find me at
the "No-Code International" table during most of the show. My talks
are:

Sunday 0900, Marconi Room: Spread Spectrum radio communications.
It's wireless, and faster than ISDN! How it works, and how
to get involved.

Sunday 1100, Marconi Room: NO Code. Replacing Morse code tests for
ham licenses with something more relevant.

Sunday 1200, Morse Room: License Restructuring.
I analyze the ARRL's license restructuring plan and 
some alternative plans.

You can get a sample of what this is all about at http://www.nocode.org/ .
Pacificon information is at http://www.mdarc.org/ .

Thanks!

Bruce Perens K6BP
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Re: depmod: error reading ELF header

[Lindsay Allen]

I'm pretty sure that this is due to ascii files in with the *.o files.
Look for ascii files in all subdirectories of /lib/modules/2.x.yz/ and
remove them.

Lindsay
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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Martin Dinkloh wrote:

> Whenever I call 
> 
>   depmod -a
> 
> I get the error
> 
>   modprobe: error reading ELF header: No such file or directory
> 
> and there is no dependency-file being created.
> The -d option does not give any more output and with -v all of the
> module paths from /etc/conf.modules are printed out before the
> error message. Even with all of the module paths commented out the
> error occurs.
> 
> I am using kernel 2.0.29 with modutils_2.1.34-5.deb.
> I have already tried to reinstall the modutils-package, but it 
> did not help? Has anyone a suggestion where I could look to
> track the problem down?
> 
> Thanks,
> Martin
> 
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Re: list server was down

[Bruce Perens]

I'm told it was not the list server that was down (after all, it's a Debian
system), but the hub it was connected to that had a problem after a power
hit.

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Re: xdm broken during package additions.

[csmall]

> I'd like to be able to run xdm to start X but it seems that it starts
> in some wrong mode. I believe when I originaly installed debian, it
> asked me if I wanted to use xdm to start x and it recommended it. Is
> there a script or some parameters I can pass to have xdm start X in the
> same mode that startx -- -bpp 16 does?  
In /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers there should be a line like
:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X 

put -bpp 8 at the end of it.  Debian resets this file sometimes.
I don't think it should, but I couldn't work out which one did it.

It's wierd that putting that in makes the X display readable, as all that
does is change the number of colours you have in a display.  Perhaps the
XF86Config is not quite right for your hardware?

  - Craig



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Re: Printing is landscape

[Lindsay Allen]

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Carl Fink wrote:

> I've just installed my new NEC SuperScript 100C printer and configured
> my Debian 1.3.1 system to print to it.
 
[snip]

> Now everything works.  The SuperScript 100C is set up as a Deskjet
> 500, which it emulates.  Printing to raw works okay, but printing to
> GhostScript via apsfilter produces really tiny type, in landscape.
> 
> I checked the GS docs, the apsfilter docs, the lpr docs (which don't
> actually exist), the man pages, the printcap man page . . . there is
> *no* ocurrence of the words "portrait" or "landscape" in those
> documents.  This is really weird.

You need to check
   the a2ps man page
   /etc/apdfilterrc

This should solve the landscape problem, but I don't know about the point
size.

I have my own problems with apsfilter.  When printing ascii to "auto" it
skips the a2ps step and the output comes out just as if it were printed
via "raw".  Any ideas on this one?  Would somebody who has it working send
me the log file of a print job?

Lindsay
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Re: freeware/shaware collection

[Dale Harrison]

> 
> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Wiria Amadja Kusuma wrote:
> 
> > Hi guys, I am wondering if there is any website on the net which provides us
> > freeware or software specifically for linux, something like tucows, nonags
> > or download.com for windooz.
> 
> Well,  just about anything for unix can run on linux,  check
> sunsite.usc.edu or tsx-11.mit.edu.  Also,  a lot of linux software is
> available from from debian (www.debian.org) or redhat (www.redhat.org),
> etc...
>   Will

The Linapps is well organised, and provides links to almost everything of
use. Not sure if its been updated recently though..

>From memory, http://www.xnet.com/~blatura/linapps.shtml 

D.


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Re: man-db ocassionally needs to be re-installed.

[Joey Hess]

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> Monthly, or more often, since installing Bo 1.3 on new system, I have had to
> re-install man-db, after getting segmentation faults whenever executing man.  
> I don't believe this is related to libc6, as has been reported.  It happens
> at almost random times.  Perhaps certain package upgrades have caused this?
> Or is it "bit rot"?  
> 
> I have found that when man seg faults, I only have to run
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/man-db.postinst, and everything as fine again.

Actually, you only have to run mandb (as root, I think), and it fixes the
problem.

You might want to refer to bug reports #10483, #11278, etc at 
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/pa/lman-db.html - the maintainer is aware 
of the problem, and I hope he figures out a fix soon.

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its a known bug. who is fixing it? Re: "free" command stuffed

[Manong Dibos]

I noticed this bug on my box a few months ago.   No fix has been proposed.
Prolly a problem for the upstream maintainer?

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Richard L Shepherd wrote:
>  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
> Mem:386536 380196   6340  22472 202704
> -/+ buffers:   1774923997940
> Swap:   130748380 130368  69604


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Re: freeware/shaware collection

[Chad D. Zimmerman]

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Wiria Amadja Kusuma wrote:

> Hi guys, I am wondering if there is any website on the net which provides us
> freeware or software specifically for linux, something like tucows, nonags
> or download.com for windooz.

I have a page that links into several resources like that.
http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/links-linux.html

 
> thanks
> kusuma
> 
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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

[Joey Hess]

Frank Sergeant wrote:
>  Do you mean they spin 24/7, that they do not power down
> after a period of inactivity?

Yes.

> I have been wondering whether
> letting the drives power down (as mine do at the moment) or
> having them not power down is better for their longevity.

Good question. I suppose it really depends on how often they are accessed -
all my drives tend to be accessed regularly.

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Re: disabling user mail

[Craig Sanders]

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

> Is there anyway to disable user mail, so the user can not receive mail
> (the system replies that the user is unknown, etc)?  I'm currently using
> smail+procmail and I'd rather not switch MTAs.
> 
> Possibly by using the .forward file (I couldn't find any help on it)? 

make an alias pointing to a non-existant account.

e.g. put something like the following in /etc/aliases:

username: USER_IS_UNKNOWN

I'm not sure if there are 'better'/'cleaner' ways of doing this with smail.
i've been using sendmail for a few years now and have forgotten most of my
smail tricks.

craig


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RE: freeware/shaware collection

[George Bonser]

What, sunsite isn't good enough for you?

http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/!INDEX.html


On 12-Oct-97 Wiria Amadja Kusuma wrote:
>Hi guys, I am wondering if there is any website on the net which provides us
>freeware or software specifically for linux, something like tucows, nonags
>or download.com for windooz.
>
>thanks
>kusuma
>
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