Re: Redhat - Debian PCI problems
On Sat, 23 Oct 1997 22:22:38 +0200 Daniel J. Mashao ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote: Now my question is - does it mean that Debian pci drivers are older that those in Redhat? Why would Redhat work and not Debian? Is the differences that deep? I always thougth the differences were minor. The drivers are in the kernel, not in anything added by the distribution. Thanks for this information. It really encourages me. I was beginning to think maybe Debian is too slow in adopting drivers. Did you try with kernel 2.0.31 ? It has a bunch of updated PCI devices and network drivers (amongst others). Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Redhat - Debian PCI problems
Hi, I was recently asked to take over the sys admin of a linux server box. I immediately installed Debian 1.3.1 from the net instead of running the recently installed Redhat system. My idea was that since I use and like Debian it should be a piece-of-cake to get everything working. Well I was wrong - I cannot telnet outside etc. It seems the problem has to do with the PCI system. The network card is DEC 21000 (something) and I am using the tulip drivers. Now my question is - does it mean that Debian pci drivers are older that those in Redhat? Why would Redhat work and not Debian? Is the differences that deep? I always thougth the differences were minor. // Daniel J. Mashao -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel // -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: make dep errors
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Thalia L. Hooker wrote: Hi, I am trying to build a new kernel after installing a new base system. After 'make config', I get this error message when I try to 'make dep': gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o scripts/mkdep scripts/mkdep.c scripts/mkdep.c:1: stdio.h: No such file or directory ... It's in the following packages: libc5-dev: /usr/include/stdio.h I think its the libc5-dev, and probably some others you need. I had a tar.gz of the stable/binary/devel on which I ran dpkg -i * ... Kind of a brute-force way... :-) Gruss -- Lukas Eppler (godot) http://www.fear.ch telnet://soil.fear.ch: talk:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[Q] Cyrix 6x86L
Hi I just upgraded to the latest unstable (libc6) stuff. Including October 18 version of gcc -- now every time I try to compile anything I get sig 11 and interneal compiler error. Also tar -zxpvf on many files that I have returns an error that CRC check failed (it worked ok on those packages before). Downgrading tar to the previous (non-libc6) version still has the same problem. Now, I also changed my 486DX4-100 to Cyrix P200+ 6x86L (my kernel was built for x386) -- can it be the cause of all my problems? Thanks, in advance Vladislav -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X upgrade
On Wed, Oct 22, 1997 at 12:05:16PM +0100, G. Kapetanios wrote: Hi, From my mirror I see that the setup for X has changed considerably. I am wondering what is the correct procedure to upgrade. I have X 3.3-4 Here is what i think i should do. First upgrade xlib6 to 3.3.1-1, then remove xlib6-dev and everything that depnds on it and install xlib6-altdev, then install xlib6g and xlib6g-dev and then install all the xfnt and the rest of 3.3.1-1 Is this the right way ? Will I have any trouble ? Having a working X on my machine is critical for me. In this case you should not upgrade. The new X is a glibc version (3.3-4 is in bo, isn't it?). The server seems to be a bit unstable (sometimes it corrupts my consoles). So, if you are happy with bo, stay with it for a little bit longer. Thank you, Marcus PS: If you really need to upgrade, upgrade to libc6 first. Use the mini HOWTO by Scott Ellis to do it right. Once again: Read the mini-HOWTO carefully. Otherwise you are most likely going to cook your system. -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god. Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?
On Thu, Oct 23, 1997 at 04:45:14PM -0200, Nicola Bernardelli wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: 2.1.59 has that problem too, 2.0.29 too... it is just out of memory (I recently reduced swap partition from 33Mb to 8Mb as it nearly never worked - 32 Mb ram BTW - and when it worked it was 2-3 megs and I needed to collect disk space... [snip] 8MB swap is far to low, if you ask me. Although you have 32 MB, if you run out of memory, it can break you suddenly, and important work can be at loss. Sure, a risk. Depends on what you do. What is your mail reader? pine Try using mutt. It is good (very good) and I have no problems reading my backlog of debian bug reports (23 Megabyte so far - in one singel folder, maybe a few thousand messages). And I have only 16MB of memory. Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god. Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Redhat - Debian PCI problems
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote: Now my question is - does it mean that Debian pci drivers are older that those in Redhat? Why would Redhat work and not Debian? Is the differences that deep? I always thougth the differences were minor. The drivers are in the kernel, not in anything added by the distribution. Thanks for this information. It really encourages me. I was beginning to think maybe Debian is too slow in adopting drivers. Is the kernel make configuration set up to support the tulip card? Is it Yes it has. I have the same card on another Debian machine which works fine. The only difference between the machines is that I am using a different motherboard with AMD K6/233. recognized in dmesg or 'cat /proc/pci'? There are some configuration options for these cards which may have to be set. I get a message when the kernel loads that indicates that the system has a problem with PCI devices. It gives warnings about Unknown PCI device. I think that is where my problem comes from, but then I did not get that from Redhat that was installed a few hours ago. It may be that I have another problem that is obscured by the PCI stuff. // Daniel J. Mashao -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel // -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Redhat - Debian PCI problems
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Philippe Troin wrote: Did you try with kernel 2.0.31 ? It has a bunch of updated PCI devices and network drivers (amongst others). Phil. No I actually tried 2.0.30. I had to swap hard drives (dirty stuff) because the machine I am trying to fix cannot talk to the outside world. I think I will go ahead and try .31 // Daniel J. Mashao -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel // -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Sound
On Thu, Oct 23, 1997 at 04:54:23PM +0200, Joost Kooij wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget it. Get the kernel-package*.deb Install it, and use it (read the doc!) Here is a hint: # make menuconfig # make-kpkg -r custom_1.0 kernel_image ^ don't # cd .. # dpkg -i the name of the created debfile # lilo Some corrections; this is from /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz: .. For the Brave and the impatient: 1% cd kernel source tree 2% make config # or make menuconfig or make xconfig and configure 3% make-kpkg clean 4% make-kpkg -r=custom.1.0 kernel_image 5% dpkg -i ../kernel-image-X.XXX_1.0_arch.deb 6% shutdown -r now # If and only if LILO worked or you have a means of # booting the new kernel. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! .. You should _not_ use a _ in the revision number! As tempting as it may seem, it actually interferes with the policy. [worthful information snipped] Yes, you are right, my fault, sorry everyone. I hope I wrote a disclaimer under my actual post, that it was from memory, and that memory fails. This was the case :) I shouldn't write mail from university, where I can't refer to my home system. (No debian in university yet, they use HP as a central server. I wonder why.) Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god. Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian ppp server how-to?
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 1997 at 01:10:25AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 1997 at 05:15:08PM -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: /AutoPPP/ - - /usr/sbin/pppd auth +pap login modem :Y.Y.Y.Y where Y.Y.Y.Y is what you want the caller's IP address to be. I did this. Well, I enabled auth, +pap, login and modem in /etc/ppp/options because I have two lines with different IP addresses obviously. However when someone tries to authenticate with PAP they get access denied. I've included the output of syslog for this below with debugging enabled on ppp. (I did set up /etc/ppp/options.ttyS0 and .ttyS1 files). I do have shadow passwords enabled. The changelog for ppp (which is 2.2.0f-26 from hamm as of just now, previously 2.2.0f-23) indicates shadow passwords are supported. The plot thickens. When an NT user dials up, pppd says it is being run by root and that PAP authentication for user x failed. When I dial up with linux pppd, pppd says it is being run by user hamish, and that the peer refused to authenticate itself. My chatscript to dialup just waits for CONNECT then leaves, allowing pppd to do its stuff. The ppp log says the peer requested termination. It looks like my end already authenticated itself to mgetty, and pppd wants it again. The mgetty log still says User=/AutoPPP/ though. Weird. Hmmm. Weird. I've used pppd with shadow passwords but this was a bo system, not hamm. You did say your system has hamm, not bo, right? just for kicks maybe you should try hand-entering the user/password into /etc/ppp/pap-secrets. Otherwise everything looks good. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: KDE Questions and Approval ...
Hey Bruce, You should be aware that we have a little problem with KDE. It uses Qt, which isn't free software by Debian's definition. For this reason, [.. lots removed ..] Maybe I'm missing something here (possibly the enormity of the battle on 'our' hands... and I mean that seriously) but it seems to me that by choosing against something like KDE (which to all intents and purposes *is* free software to the end user) we are spiting ourselves. When something like GNOME or Berlin is a viable solution for people then by all means, embrace that solution as it fits with our/Debian's adgenda better, but until then why not encourage people to use KDE? It seems like the best option going at the moment... The problem with this is that, if we were to embrace KDE now, we implicidly also say Programming for Qt is good, and thus more people start programming for Qt. Then when GNOME/Berlin/WhatEver comes out, we cannot switch anymore. Yes, if it's just like saying fvwm2 is our preferred WM, then a programme written to best fit fvwm2 runs just as fine under wm2/afterstep/twm/WhatEver. But the way I see it, KDE isn't that way: you _have_ to install Qt, and programmes that you write to have the KDE look will _have_ to use Qt too. And they will not run without Qt. Furthermore, and this is something people often forget, and should really be in a regular posting to debian-user: The goal of debian is _not_ to produce the best distribution. but The goal of debian is to produce the best _free_ distribution. Adding non-free packages to debian does nothing to further the goal of producing the best _free_ distribution. (Note: I don't install Qt. Thus I don't have KDE installed. Thus I have no idea of what it actually is. If anything in this post about KDE is inaccurate, it's due to KDE's dependancy on Qt) (Second Note: Someone else in this thread mentioned that KDE didn't have debian menu support. Maybe this used to be true, but after suggestions by Andreas (KDE maintainer), I (menu maintainer) have added a few features to menu, removed one misfeature, and improved slightly Andreas' menu-method file. Andreas' last KDE upload really should have menu support). Thanks, -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] My spamfilter is so good, it correctly catches 90% of incoming spam, *including* all email from my PhD supervisor. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bash2.01 Xfree86: how to make Backspace really be KeySym backspace??
Hi, I'm going to repeat this post again, since it seems annoying that someone else should have encountered this problem, but no one replied the first time. In summary, xfree86 as shipped in debian appears to have backspace and delete both bound to the Delete KeySym, so it's not possible to generate a ^H by pressing either keys. Bash 2.01 seems to want ^H for a backspace. So, how can I change this mapping back to del - delete and backspace - ^H on a systemwide basis? I guess I could use the xmodmap file in /etc/X11/... but i'd rather find the source of the original problem. I am not using the Xkb extension. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 02:43:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Xfree86: how to make Backspace really be KeySym backspace?? Resent-Date: 17 Oct 1997 06:41:24 - Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi, It appears that in the default keyboard mapping for xfree86 (xkb disabled), both the backspace key *and* the delete key are mapped to the KeySym 'Delete'. Can someone tell me where this is being done? I don't want these keys mapped. In other words, I'd like the delete key = keysym Delete backspace key = keysym BackSpace the way it should be. I know I could use xmodmap to remap the keys back to the original ways, but I'd rather find the source of the problem and remove the mapping that is currently being done in the first place. Can anyone help? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Help with network connection
Hi, I dont quite know how to explain my problem. But here it goes: I have just installed Debian on the network but I cannot telnet outside. Somehow the DNS server is accessed because it interpretes the addresses correctly but does not connect. I have an ethernet card and I am on a network. Anything more to say? // Daniel J. Mashao -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel // -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?
Ok, congrats for you nice keyboard. I heard a PSR-don'tRememberWhichNow
years ago and the sounds were nice. Don't get slave to gadgets though!
get Mark E. Boling, The jazz theory workbook, Advance Music... other
books if you want, one especially good for pianists. If you learn jazz you
can face anything.
Back to Debian now.
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It supports a sustain pedal, but I did not get one yet. When I get
more $$$ and I am more advanced I'll get one. I think they go for
about $20-$50US.
As soon as you can, I suppose you have better learn _with_ it.
I think games are very nice for an OS to be more widely used, and Linux
could support both the _very_powerful_solid_graphics kind of games and
the abstract_fast_X_fascinating_graphics kind, of course both with
astonishing sounds :-) maybe in part math-generated and graphics-related
(I still have to give a look at software such as kandinsky). Maybe one day
some Debian-original ultra-eye_ear_MIND-catching game...?
Hopefully some day...
Where do you play Doom, Linux or DOS? If Linux, does it need anything else
but a properly configured kernel in order to send to the external MIDI
synth?... Maybe a doom-specific sound server does anything? Is there a
Debian package?... I can't find one on the 1.3.1. CD... I had it on my
very first Linux install years ago (or the second one...) and will give a
look at some more recent CDs I have here. I tried abuse yesterday from the
Debian package [not the one with 1.2.4, sound broken to me {but SVGA}, the
one with 1.3.1 {but only X, not SVGA it seems}] and it looks very
interesting (more than recent demos I saw in (Win)DOG with sophisticated
3d-like graphics), and sounds give a _very_ interesting taste; it seems
they chose to have no music in it.
Right now, I play it in dos, but that is only because I haven't
actually gotten the chance to install Linux yet...hehe. In the dos
version, I was just able to change the doom configuration from SB16
to Midi Out. As for Debian packages, I am not sure. I know Doom and
Wolfenstein3D are both out for Linux, though.
Yes, no Debian packages almost on 1.3.1., will give a look at the ftp site
but think not. (This won't interest you, anyway I saw a couple of hours
ago that at Takashi Iwai's home page there is also stuff for Doom with
Linux, sound server and patches to use awe synth with it... A Debian
package of doom should put all that stuff together.)
Cheers,
Nicola
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Router installation
Howdy.. I just purchased an Ascend Pipeline 25fx and I wish to connect it to my Linux machine through a hub. I also want to allow my roommate's Win95 machine access to the internet. I do not know where to start or what exactly needs to be done. The router has an ethernet interface and bridge/ruote capabilities. Do I need to setup a proxy server on Linux to allow the Win95 machine to access the internet? How do I control the dialing of the router through Linux? I have a dynamically assigned IP from my ISP. Any help/direction is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Ian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Logging to debian...
I got a Terminal server that I am trying to get it to log on my Debian machine. I can't seem to get it to work. I added to my syslog.conf file. local7.*-/var/log/ts.log My Terminal Server should be set write for logging to my machine. Computone looked at it and made any corrections that were wrong. Do I need to do anything more than adding the above line to my syslog.conf file? Tony -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
PPP 2.3 from hamm/hamm (unstable)
Does this break under kernel 2.0.30 or do I just need to check out the syntax for new files: having set this up once, all that happened was that the modem hung. Still running unstable 24/7 and happy. Andy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: alien problem (bo)
I think this was fixed by a newer version of dpkg-dev. You might need to try the version from unstable. I was having these problems and upgraded alien, rpm and dpkg-dev to the below versions and everything seems honkey dorey now. Thanks, Adam. ii alien 5.18 Install Red Hat and Slackware Packages ii rpm 2.4.8-1Red Hat Package Manager ii dpkg-dev1.4.0.19 Package building tools for Debian Linux -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Redhat - Debian PCI problems
Thanks to everyone - the problem is solved. It turns out that the I had wrong broadcast address. I am so ashamed of myself - but I want to thank evryone for respong so speedily and helping me figure out what could be wrong. // Daniel J. Mashao -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel // -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What happened to rpc.portmap?
I just put an older copy of rpc.portmap back onto this system and everything seems to be fine now. dpkg -S /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap returns netbase, so I think I found some of the problem. The new netbase doesn't have rpc.portmap, only portmap, and dselect deleted the older version :-). This looks like a case for a bug report, netbase should either supply rpc.portmap or fix the init.d script not to call it. Am I out to lunch? I hope so, because this could be serious. Later Rob MacWilliams -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Stop rc5v2 client, Bovine team won 56 bit secret key challenge!
Nicola Bernardelli wrote: I don't think it has already been reported on this mailing list, anyway, just for who is letting the rc5v2 client run: www.distributed.net gives details. Ok, maybe the Linux community started late and we were not the greatest contributors, but we _did_ contribute to that 47% keyspace exploration. If you care to run it, they've released a rc5 64 bit client... :) Enjoy -- Greg. -- What do you want to spend today? Debian GNU/Linux (Free for an UNLIMITED time) http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html Greg VenceKH2EA/4 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Stop rc5v2 client, Bovine team won 56 bit secret key challenge!
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Greg Vence wrote: Nicola Bernardelli wrote: I don't think it has already been reported on this mailing list, anyway, just for who is letting the rc5v2 client run: www.distributed.net gives details. Ok, maybe the Linux community started late and we were not the greatest contributors, but we _did_ contribute to that 47% keyspace exploration. If you care to run it, they've released a rc5 64 bit client... :) Enjoy -- Greg. M... a new challenge you mean? But do you also mean you are not interested at all? Nicola -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Stop rc5v2 client, Bovine team won 56 bit secret key challenge!
I don't think it has already been reported on this mailing list, anyway, just for who is letting the rc5v2 client run: www.distributed.net gives details. Ok, maybe the Linux community started late and we were not the greatest contributors, but we _did_ contribute to that 47% keyspace exploration. Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for messages from any kind of robot, such as mailing lists. From that address no autoresponse messages will come, even when I am away for some days. --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Try using mutt. It is good (very good) and I have no problems reading my backlog of debian bug reports (23 Megabyte so far - in one singel folder, maybe a few thousand messages). And I have only 16MB of memory. THANK YOU, I _will_ try it... (faster if a Debian package exists of course). Nicola -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Stopping mail download
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:21:19 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because your using demon internet, they forward your mail when you dial up by SMTP. You need to disable smail in your /etc/inetd.conf (just put a # at the beginning of the line). I couldn't see any smail entry in /etc/inetd,conf. The only thing that seemed vaguely close to what I wanted was an NNTP entry (the comment header above it said mail, and it had, I think, tcpd and leafnode in the line). How can I tell whether commenting that out has stopped my email from being downloaded? Of course, the next thing I want to do is set up news without email. Oh, this is going to be a fun weekend! :-) rob. -- I'm running out of strength to even ask now. This dual-boot will be the death of me. = (send replies to rob@) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What happened to rpc.portmap?
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Rob MacWilliams wrote: I just put an older copy of rpc.portmap back onto this system and everything seems to be fine now. dpkg -S /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap returns netbase, so I think I found some of the problem. The new netbase doesn't have rpc.portmap, only portmap, and dselect deleted the older version :-). This looks like a case for a bug report, netbase should either supply rpc.portmap or fix the init.d script not to call it. Am I out to lunch? I hope so, because this could be serious. I took a lookat it. The problem is not with netbase, but with xinetd. The /etc/init.d/netbase script is overwritten by the xinetd package and does nothing if xinetd is installed. The /etc/init.d/xinetd script looks for /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap, which is not in the netbase package. Instead, there is /usr/sbin/portmap, which has the same functionality. The change occurred with netbase_2.15-1, according to the changelog. I really think this is a bug in the xinetd package. IMHO, there should come a new xinetd package which knows about /usr/sbin/portmap. Probably it should depend on netbase (= 2.15-1). Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: new debian user questions
Manoj Srivastava writes: ...as it stands, most packages arrange to invoke the configuration utility/script out of the postconfig script anyway; so the config script is run by dpkg with no assistace from Deity. ... Any enhancements to configuring packages, thus, has to be implemented by dpkg. Does this make sense? Couldn't the postconfig script register the configuration utiliy with an admin tool so that the utility would appear in a menu when the admin tool is run? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X session dies when I'm not looking
Hi. I'm running into a problem with bo and XFree 3.3-3, I can't quite figure out where it's coming from, but here's the gist of it. I haven't had anything out of the ordinary happen when I'm working but if I leave for awhile without logging out, I sometimes return to find the session's died and I'm back at the xdm login screen. when I relog I see xconsole saying: Read failed, re-opening console Oct 9 06:53:58 visitation syslogd 1.3-3#17: restart. anyone have ideas what's going on here? possibly relevant background info - I'm using the generic s3 server, xbase and xdm from bo, fvwm2.0.45, xscreensaver (also from bo), and tkdesk as the controlling process of the X session. many thanks in advance, -MP -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: accelx 4.1 (fwd)
I guess there will be AGP support very soon ! Matthew -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:27:41 +0100 From: Graham Gedeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Tebbens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: accelx 4.1 Matthew Tebbens wrote: I see that you have included support for #9 revolution3d 8megs, but does that include the AGP version of that board ? Thanks, Matthew Hello Matthew, There will be AGP support in as little as a few weeks for this #9 card. The most will be month or so, but we have already done some work on it and AGP is a high priority right now. Please watch our newly redesigned website for news about new card support. -- Thanks for your interest, Graham Gedeon XI Graphics 1801 Broadway Suite 1710 Denver Colorado 80202 Phone-(303)298-7478, 1-800-946-7433 within US, Fax-(303)298-1406 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Web Site-WWW.XIG.COM -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Redhat - Debian PCI problems
Hi Daniel, The latest driver can be had from Donald Becker's page at cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov - now at v0.83. I am using the tulip driver here with no problems. About all I can think of is that it probably requires a bus-mastering slot and of course check /proc/interrupts to see that all is well. There is also a diagnostic program available from the above site. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Daniel J. Mashao wrote: Hi, I was recently asked to take over the sys admin of a linux server box. I immediately installed Debian 1.3.1 from the net instead of running the recently installed Redhat system. My idea was that since I use and like Debian it should be a piece-of-cake to get everything working. Well I was wrong - I cannot telnet outside etc. It seems the problem has to do with the PCI system. The network card is DEC 21000 (something) and I am using the tulip drivers. Now my question is - does it mean that Debian pci drivers are older that those in Redhat? Why would Redhat work and not Debian? Is the differences that deep? I always thougth the differences were minor. // Daniel J. Mashao -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel // -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
web site
Hi, I get this document contains no data when I try to access http://www.debian.org . Thanks -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Procmail and Pine [solved]
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I just peeked in my pine mail folders and didn't find any such delimiters. One thing that did cause me problems with procmail was improper file locking, which led to similar problems with concatinated messages. Here's part of my procmailrc dealing with debian, note the colon at the end of the first line, it is required to make the file locking behave properly: Ahh, yes, figured it out. Had enabled the backup folder option, and due to sloppy config on my part EVERYTHING was getting caught in it, and nothing getting delivered quite right. Also had a file-lock problem, now solved. Thanks for your help. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Redhat - Debian PCI problems
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Daniel J. Mashao wrote: recognized in dmesg or 'cat /proc/pci'? There are some configuration options for these cards which may have to be set. I get a message when the kernel loads that indicates that the system has a problem with PCI devices. It gives warnings about Unknown PCI device. I think that is where my problem comes from, but then I did not get that from Redhat that was installed a few hours ago. From what I've heard, the 'unknown PCI device' message is only cosmetic and means that it is not identified as a device whose name is in the database file. Are you identifying the ethernet card to the kernel? I know this is often required, although I have not had to do so myself (PnP BIOS here took care of it). It may be that I have another problem that is obscured by the PCI stuff. There's quite a bit of information in the Ethernet-HOWTO and PCI-HOWTO which may be of help here. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: new debian user questions
Hi, Daniel Martin pointed out exactly what I wanted to say, but in better words. Thanks. On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Daniel Martin wrote: Having read the original post, I was under the impression that this would be a desirable state, not necessarily an expression of the current state. On 23 Oct 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Daniel So... Does diety attempt to integrate the configuration tools Daniel that do come with some of the Debian packages? And what about Daniel the question earlier of having the configuration menus that Daniel appear during initial setup available without booting from the Daniel install CD/floppy? Well, if there were a standard interface, Deity might try; but, as it stands, most packages arrange to invoke the configuration utility/script out of the postconfig script anyway; so the config script is run by dpkg with no assistace from Deity. This is clear. It should also be able to do a basic setup without 'dialog' installed. But you know, it's not always running without problems after installing. When the postconfig went wrong, there should be a standard place/method to rerun the config, which should be as clear as installing. I did an install of debian on a laptop of a friend this week. He was not the person to struggle with the system, he just wanted X, octave, lyx/latex and a running pcmcia-network card. I can tell you, I got a red head configuring the basics. Once because of the work, and also because I felt somewhat ashamed to have to configure so many things with vi - for a basic installation. I know where to look, no problem. But it takes time anyway. We all had problems installing the basic system, isn't it? Trying to configure a kernel on a base system to access the cd-rom. To have X running. To be able to deliver mail locally AND outbound. To have colors in xterm, to have ls displaying in color and with slashes after a directory. To let xdm look better. I did not even know there was an xbase-configure (I did try xbaseconfig, which would be the standard name, or not?). Remember, even when Deity is deployed, dpkg shall remain the underlying mechanism; and it will alsways be legal to bypass Deity and use raw dpkg to install packages. We can't, then, do things in a fashion that the configs only work when the installation is run by Deity. I would like to invoke dpkg --setup on a package to invoke the script, or let dselect do that. and maybe dpkg --display-setup to see what is done. Any enhancements to configuring packages, thus, has to be implemented by dpkg. Does this make sense? Yes it does. It is only a calling standard. A definition. It would be simple to follow it for package maintainers, and easy to implement in dselect/diety. Please don't take me too literal, I learned english too late to be able to express everything the right way. Gruss -- Lukas Eppler (godot) http://www.fear.ch telnet://soil.fear.ch: talk:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?
Nicola =)
Nicole,
A-ehm, NicolA is a male name in Italy, just think about Nicolas in the
USA.
Oops.. sorry about that! I think it was late when I wrote that
message
Yes, you're right, not nice being tied to the computer... not nice FM too
nor eating CPU cycles for soft synthesis if you want the CPU to do
something else... as you told you can use your synth-capable-keyboard for
General Midi sounds from games (though here you _are_ tied to the computer
and AWE is not bad in this case)... I think your Yamaha PSR-200 _is_
General Midi compliant by now, isn't it? How many octaves has the
keyboard, 4, 5 or 7? Did you have to buy a sustain pedal apart of it?
Yeah.. it is tied then, but I just stick it on a chair, plug in the
3 wires, and works well (two plugs for the midi connection, and a
third into my SB16's input jack, which puts it into the stereo
system along with the wave sounds).. The thing is 11 pounds, but I
guess one of those Grand Pianos would be much harder to move..hehe.
Yes, the PSR-220 (not 200), is General Midi compliant (a feature of
which it makes sure to mention many times in the manual..hehe). It
has 100 panel instruments, and a seperate GM mode for 128 more.
Well, it has 61 keys over about 5 octaves. However, you can also
adjust the whole keyboard up or down two whole octaves by changing a
simple setting (you could also split the keyboard between two
instruments and adjust each side by 2 octaves seperately).
It supports a sustain pedal, but I did not get one yet. When I get
more $$$ and I am more advanced I'll get one. I think they go for
about $20-$50US.
I think games are very nice for an OS to be more widely used, and Linux
could support both the _very_powerful_solid_graphics kind of games and
the abstract_fast_X_fascinating_graphics kind, of course both with
astonishing sounds :-) maybe in part math-generated and graphics-related
(I still have to give a look at software such as kandinsky). Maybe one day
some Debian-original ultra-eye_ear_MIND-catching game...?
Hopefully some day...
Where do you play Doom, Linux or DOS? If Linux, does it need anything else
but a properly configured kernel in order to send to the external MIDI
synth?... Maybe a doom-specific sound server does anything? Is there a
Debian package?... I can't find one on the 1.3.1. CD... I had it on my
very first Linux install years ago (or the second one...) and will give a
look at some more recent CDs I have here. I tried abuse yesterday from the
Debian package [not the one with 1.2.4, sound broken to me {but SVGA}, the
one with 1.3.1 {but only X, not SVGA it seems}] and it looks very
interesting (more than recent demos I saw in (Win)DOG with sophisticated
3d-like graphics), and sounds give a _very_ interesting taste; it seems
they chose to have no music in it.
Right now, I play it in dos, but that is only because I haven't
actually gotten the chance to install Linux yet...hehe. In the dos
version, I was just able to change the doom configuration from SB16
to Midi Out. As for Debian packages, I am not sure. I know Doom and
Wolfenstein3D are both out for Linux, though.
Shawn
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Re: Hello, total idiot here plesea rospedn :)
Hi! [ Last official 1.2.x kernel was 1.2.13. 1.2.29 does not exists... ] Debian 1.3.1 comes with kernel 2.0.29. My came with both 2.0.29 and 2.0.30 (its the one from lsl) Regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq uin: 2565176 - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: new debian user questions
On 21 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lukas Eppler writes: This is also better for debian, because every package comes with its own config tool. This is news to me. What config tool comes with cnews? with suck? with pppd? You're right, I should have said it the other way: every config tool comes in its own package :-) It would be great if the packages you mentioned had a *config. I seem to have only these: /usr/sbin/gpmconfig* /usr/sbin/paperconfig* /usr/sbin/kbdconfig* /usr/sbin/sendmailconfig* /usr/sbin/kernel-packageconfig* /usr/sbin/shadowconfig* /usr/sbin/liloconfig*/usr/sbin/tzconfig* It would be nice to have more of them. Gruss -- Lukas Eppler (godot) http://www.fear.ch telnet://soil.fear.ch: talk:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[ANSWER] Re: The Debian Alpha maintainers have some inappropriate elitism
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Christopher C Chimelis wrote: Also, I haven't seen a FAQ on this to begin with, not to mention heard of any FAQ suggestions. Maybe it's just me, but where exactly are these people asking for help? Maybe one of us should be watching debian-user since I suspect it's coming up over there Well, I cannot, alas, admit to being a core member or, even, to technical competence, but I've assembled an installation nano-HOWTO. Look at: http://www.bard.org.il/~marc Follow the birdie. In short, we're all doing this in the spare nanoseconds we have in our lives, so please have patience with us. I am indebted to Chris for the HOWTO's name :-). ---MAV Type Bits/KeyIDDate User ID pub 1024/2971208D 1997/09/11 Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3i mQCNAzQYNjQAAAEEANNIjkR/0Z/HFdhIvGLf7K+YvBrcY34H1IwRPitKi29aKoan wrm5Ia2XHFxk92JJ4r0ojdTQd2e/mvOJTG6um2DykLWUmpcBhkvPtxhsP5gOrCwD fRoqQ8SIK9pxMIrIgidKa0Z1Fo+kMn7CFUy1W4oYkN96GEV2nVVaYMIpcSCNAAUR tCJNYXJjIEEuIFZvbG92aWMgPG1hcmNAYmFyZC5vcmcuaWw+iQCVAwUQNBg2NFVa YMIpcSCNAQFYwgP8Ci8CuTWtkYBsM1Ucb/cJXtYxV10piQ+5+ADt2aEgbA84imYd NS4fLh5NtrqnytD93TQZ9Ofws7jYVvfm+CtqEhZhQ0I/O4KHz/akqUHFMqQr4TDw jr4WdSGFM7Z1uwnQntMFi6HOAo21X6P6jnsKL9p4yv9pTTrSRnUynY1q9dM= =wP8P -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DSELECT: can it merge updates after CD installation?
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: Searching the Changelog directories for updated packages (r1 to r6) and installing them with dpkg is a bit tedious. I imagine dpkg-ftp works well in the case of getting non-free packages from a remote site. Is there a way to point dselect at local or remote directories such that it will merge in the new and updated packages? Dselect would then show them in the Newly Available and Updated Packages sections of the selection screen. Looking at dpkg-ftp, it kinda looks like it might do all this (by fetching the complete Packages file?) but there's no DOC that explains what's really going on. Wouldn't you loose track of what files had to be retrieved remotely and which ones where actually on your local CD? Hi, You might want to use: dpkg-scanpackages binarypath overridefile pathprefix Packages and then dpkg --merge-avail Packages-file merge with info from file You can get the overridefile from the indices directory in the archive, but I think you can only run it on packages in a mounted filesystem. If you hack up a Packages file in a clever way you might even be able to let dselect get the packages from the ftp site. Letting dselect install them from a local filesystem is much easier, but that would again require you to dig them out of the ftp site manually. If it is for purpose of keeping a local mirror, then it is probably interesting to look into these tools. They have manpages too. Too bad indeed that there is no global tell-all-the-gory-details-but-do-in-simple-words-with-nice-examples kind of document yet. I intend to write something like that, but until now I have not had the time to really sit down for it. If you want to do me a favor, then tell me about your experiences and I can maybe use them for such HOWTO. Success, Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
AGP support
Anyone know if AGP is supported by one of the x-servers ? I was looking at the #9 revolution3d 8megs w/AGP. That card is supported by accelX, but I'm not sure if AGP on the card matters ? Thanks, Matthew -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Xfig -jpeg = blackness
Hi Can someone plesa tell me why when i ask xfig to export a figure to jpeg it just gives me a nice black square! Before I had an update a few days ago, i tried it and it worked, but now... just the void -- Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neptuno.uevora.pt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: new debian user questions
Hi, Daniel == Daniel Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel So... Does diety attempt to integrate the configuration tools Daniel that do come with some of the Debian packages? And what about Daniel the question earlier of having the configuration menus that Daniel appear during initial setup available without booting from the Daniel install CD/floppy? Well, if there were a standard interface, Deity might try; but, as it stands, most packages arrange to invoke the configuration utility/script out of the postconfig script anyway; so the config script is run by dpkg with no assistace from Deity. Remember, even when Deity is deployed, dpkg shall remain the underlying mechanism; and it will alsways be legal to bypass Deity and use raw dpkg to install packages. We can't, then, do things in a fashion that the configs only work when the installation is run by Deity. Any enhancements to configuring packages, thus, has to be implemented by dpkg. Does this make sense? manoj who does not necessarily agree with his sig -- Laws don't work, unless they merely codify generally accepted behavior, in which case they are probably unnecessary. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Sound
Dang! I should have RTFM better before sending this.
Contrary to what I wrote below, you don't get to see the epoch in the
_name_ of the produced .deb ( is is in there though. )
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Joost Kooij wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Forget it. Get the kernel-package*.deb Install it, and use it (read the
doc!) Here is a hint:
# make menuconfig
# make-kpkg -r custom_1.0 kernel_image
^
don't
# cd ..
# dpkg -i the name of the created debfile
# lilo
Some corrections; this is from /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz:
..
For the Brave and the impatient:
1% cd kernel source tree
2% make config # or make menuconfig or make xconfig and configure
3% make-kpkg clean
4% make-kpkg -r=custom.1.0 kernel_image
5% dpkg -i ../kernel-image-X.XXX_1.0_arch.deb
6% shutdown -r now # If and only if LILO worked or you have a means of
# booting the new kernel. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!
..
You should _not_ use a _ in the revision number! As tempting as it may
seem, it actually interferes with the policy.
I don't know for sure if and what it will actually break, but look at the
name of a custom kernel-image package:
kernel-image-2.0.29_custom.1.0_i386.deb
I think that the _i386 part is discarded. If you use an underscore in the
revision, then part of it might get discarded.
So instead, use a dot or a minus.
Better still even, prepend it with an epoch;
make-kpkg -r=3:custom-1.0 kernel_image
I'll try to explain why:
All packages carry version numbers, so that dpkg may know what version the
package is. It has an option that lets you tell it to not downgrade a
package to a lower version. Dselect, for example, uses this option when it
recurses through a big list of packages.
Packaged kernel-images in the distribution also have a version number -
not at all coincidentally coinciding with the kernel version, because it
is used to reflect the upstream version number. Note that the kernel
version is also part of the package's name, thus it appears twice in the
package's file name. It also gets a debian revision number relating to
differences in builds. It then looks like:
kernel-image-2.0.29_2.0.29-8.deb
The reason for telling kernel-package that the package has a version
custom-x.y.whatever.you-want.to+add.more-just.do.not+use.an=underscore
is that to dpkg that is always a higher version number than any version
number starting with a numeral ( eg. a 2 like b a. ) This way,
dselect will not try to upgrade your roll-it-yourself kernel-image when
the a new build of the distribution default kernel appears in the archive.
Now for the epoch: sometimes there is a problem of some kind with the
version numbering and a newer package actually gets a lower version
number. In such cases an epoch is prepended to the version number. It
would look like:
kernel-image-2.0.29_1:2.0.29-8.deb
not like so, but
kernel-image-2.0.29_2.0.29-8.deb
like so
When this happens, the custom version numbering trick suddenly doesn't
work anymore unless it gets an epoch prepended too. If you make the epoch
three then you are very probably on the safe side.
So that's the reason to use something like:
make-kpkg -r=3:custom-1 kernel_image
And the next time when you build a kernel, because you just bought a new
soundcard or you discovered that you suddenly want masquerading in your
kernel enabled, you'll type:
make-kpkg -r=3:custom-2 kernel_image
When make-kpkg is finished, you'll find your
kernel-image-2.0.29_custom.1.0_i386.deb in /usr/src and all it takes now
is to install the package:
dpkg -i kernel-image-2.0.29_custom.1.0_i386.deb
This will install the kernel, the modules, the map file and do some other
administrativia and finally it will ask you if you want to make a
bootfloppy and if you want to run lilo now.
Good luck,
Joost
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DSELECT: can it merge updates after CD installation?
Personally, I've always had enough local disk to mirror the entire Debian distribution, so updating isn't a problem. I have a few co-workers and friends that have installed the official CD but they don't have any other local deb files. IE non-free and the 1.3.1.r1 to 1.3.1.r6 updates. Searching the Changelog directories for updated packages (r1 to r6) and installing them with dpkg is a bit tedious. I imagine dpkg-ftp works well in the case of getting non-free packages from a remote site. Is there a way to point dselect at local or remote directories such that it will merge in the new and updated packages? Dselect would then show them in the Newly Available and Updated Packages sections of the selection screen. Looking at dpkg-ftp, it kinda looks like it might do all this (by fetching the complete Packages file?) but there's no DOC that explains what's really going on. Wouldn't you loose track of what files had to be retrieved remotely and which ones where actually on your local CD? ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian ppp server how-to?
On Fri, Oct 24, 1997 at 01:10:25AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 1997 at 05:15:08PM -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: /AutoPPP/ - - /usr/sbin/pppd auth +pap login modem :Y.Y.Y.Y where Y.Y.Y.Y is what you want the caller's IP address to be. I did this. Well, I enabled auth, +pap, login and modem in /etc/ppp/options because I have two lines with different IP addresses obviously. However when someone tries to authenticate with PAP they get access denied. I've included the output of syslog for this below with debugging enabled on ppp. (I did set up /etc/ppp/options.ttyS0 and .ttyS1 files). I do have shadow passwords enabled. The changelog for ppp (which is 2.2.0f-26 from hamm as of just now, previously 2.2.0f-23) indicates shadow passwords are supported. The plot thickens. When an NT user dials up, pppd says it is being run by root and that PAP authentication for user x failed. When I dial up with linux pppd, pppd says it is being run by user hamish, and that the peer refused to authenticate itself. My chatscript to dialup just waits for CONNECT then leaves, allowing pppd to do its stuff. The ppp log says the peer requested termination. It looks like my end already authenticated itself to mgetty, and pppd wants it again. The mgetty log still says User=/AutoPPP/ though. Weird. Ideas? thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 57% Your train has been cancelled due to defective government at Spring Street.. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Y2k != millenium compliance
Just one quick point on all this Y2k stuff. The millenium officially (and legally) begins 1/1/2001, not 1/1/2000. Be careful when defining this stuff in contracts, etc. You might get stuffed if you use the language millenium without defining it as Y2k ;) Also, even though its not a problem with debian specifically, it would be a good idea (and a public service) to provide information on the Y2k issue on the web site. I'd be willing to research useful links to include on a page dedicated to this. That is, as long as we can agree we don't need a standards body to sanction using terms like millenium compliance to mean stuff that don't break after 1/1/2000. Mind you, I'm not talking about boasting compliance or conceding non-compliance (as defined above) -- just providing useful information on the issue. Whomever is in charge of the web site, please get back to me if there's any interest. Cheers, -- Until we extend the circle of our compassion to all living things, we will not ourselves find peace -Albert Schweitzer Richard G. Roberto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: The Debian Alpha maintainers have some inappropriate elitism
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, David E. Scott wrote: I'm a new subscriber to debian-user list and I found this recent snippet there attributed to you. If you are not monitoring debian-user list, then to what list are you referring when you say: *THIS* list below? (There is nothing in the headers of the message to indicate what the original list was, only the reference to debian-user and that it was resent. Many thanks, Yeah, that was my error. Someone else pointed this out, but apparently they didn't repost my reply to debian-user, so I'm doing it now. What I *meant* to say was that if there are any questions regarding Debian on Alphas, please post the questions to the debian-alpha list. Thanks for pointing it out to me again.. :) Chris -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian ppp server how-to?
On Thu, Sep 11, 1997 at 05:15:08PM -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: dada wrote: Is there any how-to to setup an ppp server under Debian? o get/install mgetty package o get/install ppp package o make sure kernel has ppp support, if it doesn't then get kernel source and recompile with ppp support o edit /etc/mgetty/login.config find the line starting with '/AutoPPP/' and modify it so that it looks something like this: /AutoPPP/ - - /usr/sbin/pppd auth +pap login modem :Y.Y.Y.Y where Y.Y.Y.Y is what you want the caller's IP address to be. I did this. Well, I enabled auth, +pap, login and modem in /etc/ppp/options because I have two lines with different IP addresses obviously. However when someone tries to authenticate with PAP they get access denied. I've included the output of syslog for this below with debugging enabled on ppp. (I did set up /etc/ppp/options.ttyS0 and .ttyS1 files). I do have shadow passwords enabled. The changelog for ppp (which is 2.2.0f-26 from hamm as of just now, previously 2.2.0f-23) indicates shadow passwords are supported. Any assistance appreciated. thanks, Hamish Oct 24 00:57:56 yodeller pppd[26924]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Oct 24 00:57:56 yodeller pppd[26924]: Using interface ppp0 Oct 24 00:57:56 yodeller pppd[26924]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 Oct 24 00:57:56 yodeller pppd[26924]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0xae844cce pcomp accomp] Oct 24 00:57:56 yodeller pppd[26924]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0xae844cce pcomp accomp] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x3bbb pcomp accomp 0d 03 06 11 04 06 4e 13 17 01 66 0e e7 d0 4b 77 11 d1 b7 bb 00 40 33 92 72 d0 00 00 00 00] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x0 0d 03 06 11 04 06 4e 13 17 01 66 0e e7 d0 4b 77 11 d1 b7 bb 00 40 33 92 72 d0 00 00 00 00] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0xae844cce pcomp accomp] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x3bbb pcomp accomp] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x3bbb pcomp accomp] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 auth pap magic 0xae844cce pcomp accomp] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: rcvd [LCP code=0xc id=0x2 00 00 3b bb 4d 53 52 41 53 56 34 2e 30 30] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: sent [LCP CodeRej id=0x2 0c 02 00 12 00 00 3b bb 4d 53 52 41 53 56 34 2e 30 30] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: rcvd [LCP code=0xc id=0x3 00 00 3b bb 4d 53 52 41 53 2d 31 2d 42 45 41 53 54] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: sent [LCP CodeRej id=0x3 0c 03 00 15 00 00 3b bb 4d 53 52 41 53 2d 31 2d 42 45 41 53 54] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x5 user=ptle password=deleted!] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: PAP authentication failure for ptle Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: sent [PAP AuthNak id=0x5msg=Login incorrect] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x4] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x4 00 00 00 05] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x4] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x4] Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: Connection terminated. Oct 24 00:57:59 yodeller pppd[26924]: Exit. -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 57% Your train has been cancelled due to defective government at Spring Street.. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Sound
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget it. Get the kernel-package*.deb Install it, and use it (read the doc!) Here is a hint: # make menuconfig # make-kpkg -r custom_1.0 kernel_image ^ don't # cd .. # dpkg -i the name of the created debfile # lilo Some corrections; this is from /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz: .. For the Brave and the impatient: 1% cd kernel source tree 2% make config # or make menuconfig or make xconfig and configure 3% make-kpkg clean 4% make-kpkg -r=custom.1.0 kernel_image 5% dpkg -i ../kernel-image-X.XXX_1.0_arch.deb 6% shutdown -r now # If and only if LILO worked or you have a means of # booting the new kernel. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! .. You should _not_ use a _ in the revision number! As tempting as it may seem, it actually interferes with the policy. I don't know for sure if and what it will actually break, but look at the name of a custom kernel-image package: kernel-image-2.0.29_custom.1.0_i386.deb I think that the _i386 part is discarded. If you use an underscore in the revision, then part of it might get discarded. So instead, use a dot or a minus. Better still even, prepend it with an epoch; make-kpkg -r=3:custom-1.0 kernel_image I'll try to explain why: All packages carry version numbers, so that dpkg may know what version the package is. It has an option that lets you tell it to not downgrade a package to a lower version. Dselect, for example, uses this option when it recurses through a big list of packages. Packaged kernel-images in the distribution also have a version number - not at all coincidentally coinciding with the kernel version, because it is used to reflect the upstream version number. Note that the kernel version is also part of the package's name, thus it appears twice in the package's file name. It also gets a debian revision number relating to differences in builds. It then looks like: kernel-image-2.0.29_2.0.29-8.deb The reason for telling kernel-package that the package has a version custom-x.y.whatever.you-want.to+add.more-just.do.not+use.an=underscore is that to dpkg that is always a higher version number than any version number starting with a numeral ( eg. a 2 like b a. ) This way, dselect will not try to upgrade your roll-it-yourself kernel-image when the a new build of the distribution default kernel appears in the archive. Now for the epoch: sometimes there is a problem of some kind with the version numbering and a newer package actually gets a lower version number. In such cases an epoch is prepended to the version number. It would look like: kernel-image-2.0.29_1:2.0.29-8.deb When this happens, the custom version numbering trick suddenly doesn't work anymore unless it gets an epoch prepended too. If you make the epoch three then you are very probably on the safe side. So that's the reason to use something like: make-kpkg -r=3:custom-1 kernel_image And the next time when you build a kernel, because you just bought a new soundcard or you discovered that you suddenly want masquerading in your kernel enabled, you'll type: make-kpkg -r=3:custom-2 kernel_image When make-kpkg is finished, you'll find your kernel-image-2.0.29_custom.1.0_i386.deb in /usr/src and all it takes now is to install the package: dpkg -i kernel-image-2.0.29_custom.1.0_i386.deb This will install the kernel, the modules, the map file and do some other administrativia and finally it will ask you if you want to make a bootfloppy and if you want to run lilo now. Good luck, Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: The Debian Alpha maintainers have some inappropriate elitism
On 22 Oct 1997, Terrence Brannon wrote: I dont understand why the Debian Alpha maintainers want to act as if Alpha users dont exist. We are constantly ignored when asking for installation instructions and constantly ignored when making FAQ suggestions. They seem to want to talk over our head. Well, first off, thanks for bringing this up :) Anyway, I can only speak for myself, but I've found everyone on this list quite friendly and approachable when it comes to getting help. Granted, installation instructions are tough to come by (mostly because alot of us did installations when there weren't boot disks available yet), but we're working on it. Also, I haven't seen a FAQ on this to begin with, not to mention heard of any FAQ suggestions. Maybe it's just me, but where exactly are these people asking for help? Maybe one of us should be watching debian-user since I suspect it's coming up over there Honestly, though, I can see how some may say this list is a little aloof, but more out of circumstance than intent. Most of us are technical people and are overloaded with compiling packages and dealing with x86 maintainers who act like WE don't exist. To say the least, it gets frustrating... In short, we're all doing this in the spare nanoseconds we have in our lives, so please have patience with us. Anyway, I'll toss this out right now...if ANYONE needs help with ANY issue, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE post it to *THIS* list. If I don't see a question here, I can't answer it (I don't have time to monitor debian-user right now). If I can't answer it myself, I'm sure someone here can. That's just my feelings on this Chris -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Procmail and Pine
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Will Lowe wrote: Hmm. I've got a working procmailrc which sends mail from all the debian lists to ~/mail/debian, which is a pine mail folder. The problem is that pine expects this: ^A^A^A^A ^A^A^A^A :0w: * ^X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org inbox/debian-user-inbox I'm also not having problems with huge mesages. Note the use of the lock file, too. mine ~/.procmailrc looks like: - MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail # You'd better make sure it exists DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache :0 # Anything from thf * ^To.*debian indebian-user# will go to $MAILDIR/todd :0 * ^Cc.*debian indebian-user :0 * ^X-Mailing-List.*debian indebian-user :0 $DEFAULT # Anything that has not been delivered by now will go to $DEFAULT # using LOCKFILE=$DEFAULT$LOCKEXT --- hth, []s, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NIS problems
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Swen Thuemmler wrote: I have the plus entries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group in the client, not in the master. /etc/passwd +:* ^-- This is your problem. You must remove the asterisk, since it will overwrite the pw_passwd entry from NIS (this is unlike SunOS). A single + ist enough. Thanks. Out of frustration, I remove the * and it works beautifully since last night. I seem to have problems loading NIS deamons during boot up. It seems that portmapper is brought up after NIS deamons. I have to manually start /etc/init.d/nis start to bring NIS up after the boot up sequence is completed. Am I missing something obvious and simple again. Bao -- Bao C. Ha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.hacom.net voice: (706) 736-8717 dial-in: (706) 849-0785 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Permission Denied
Didn't see that 'same machine' in my first response. Try allowing access from both localhost the hostname. If you telnet to localhost then I think the display is set for localhost ... same with the host name. So if you don't have access granted to whats set for the display On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe wrote: Hi. Suppose I have X running. I have a shell and in that shell I telnet to the same machine but under a different user. When i try to run any X app (say xfig) i guet the following messages : Xlib: connection to neptuno:0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Error: Can't open display: neptuno:0.0 How can I change this ? -- Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neptuno.uevora.pt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Sound
Hello!
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Jason Bauer wrote:
I've been trying for about a week to get sound to work to no avail. I am
running kernel 2.0.30 with sound compiled as a module. The error I get
(when i get an error.. with xplaymidi it just acts like its playing but
no sound comes out) is /dev/audio: No such device or address. There
are 2 possibilities of where I can be going wrong.
#1 Wrong Sound Card
I have (according to the manual) an ISP=16v3 audio board. I don't see
that anywhere in the kernel config or the hardware how-to doc. Inside
the manual is says it is compatible with Adlib, Soundblsater, MS Win
sound System, General MIDI. It has a YAMAHA OPL3 FM Synthesiser. I've
tried soundblaster, with OPL3, without OPL3, just OPL3.. When i boot
into Win95 it says it has MPU-401 interface so I tried that with and
without the above options and it still doesn't work. Does anyone out
there have experiance with this sound card or can tell me which one to
choose
There is no soundblaster compatible card on the market. Believe it.
If you dont believe me, open your computer and tell me if there is a chip
from creative labs on the card. There isnt? So, you see? Good.
1) Is it a PnP card? Then you need to install the ISA PnP tools
(isapnptools*.deb). And you have to configure it. Read the docs.
2) I dont know your card. Perhaps others do. Read the Sound-HOWTO.
It is in /usr/doc/HOWTO, if you install the doc-linux{-text} package.
Read it.
Read it carefully.
Read it a second and a third time. (I mean what I say).
#2 Simply not compiling and/or installing module correctly.
As i said before, i have sound set as a module. Here are the steps i go
through when i am trying the different options:
make xconfig
make dep
make clean
make modules
make modules_install
reboot
Forget it. Get the kernel-package*.deb Install it, and use it (read the
doc!) Here is a hint:
# make menuconfig
# make-kpkg -r custom_1.0 kernel_image
# cd ..
# dpkg -i the name of the created debfile
# lilo
the last only if you use lilo. I dont know if it will be run from dpkg,
but it doesnt hurt to do it explicitly.
Then cross your finger
reboot.
Done.
Is that correct?? I've been reading about depmod but I don't know what
its purpose is or when I would use it. All of this is done as root. If
it matters i boot off of a floppy.
No nned for that.
If you have a pnp card, install sound as module.
Oh, did you load the module?
Append sound to /etc/modules to do this automagically at boot time or
run insmod sound manually.
depmod is done automagically.
If you have more questions, feel free to ask, but read the Sound-HOWTO
first. It is very important for you.
Marcus
Jason Bauer
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Guru 23 Computing Services
You break it, We fix it!
Ok, I break it, you fix it.
All I wrote is from memory, which is condemned to fail sometimes.
insert your favourite disclaimer.
Marcus
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Installation problem: unable to open an initial console
Hi all, Please point me to the location (and forgive me) if this question has already been asnwered. (I have tried to search the mailing list archive but apparently it is down.) My problem is like this: I recently upgraded from Debian 1.2 to 1.3 and it worked fine. Yesterday there was a power failure and I try to reboot using the Boot Disk created during the installation but the system just kept on rebooting itself. I then use the Rescue Disk and boot using the option rescue root=/dev/hda5 (I had the / partition on an extended logical partition named hda5.) and the message unable to open an initial console appeared. I then tried the default boot option in the Rescus Disk and I was able to mount my previous partitions on the directory /target. However, I cannot do anything else. (I would like, at least, to save my data files!) There does not seem to be a hardware problem because I get the virtual consoles (1 to 4) from the Rescue Disk boot. I would be grateful for your help. Regards, --ST +---+ | LUK ShunTim | | | | Civil and Structural Engineering Department | | Hong Kong Polytechnic University | | Kowloon | | Hong Kong| | | | http://www.cse.polyu.edu.hk/~stluk/ | | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | phone: (852) 27666064| | fax: (852) 23346389| +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Permission Denied
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe wrote: Hi. Suppose I have X running. I have a shell and in that shell I telnet to the same machine but under a different user. When i try to run any X app (say xfig) i guet the following messages : Xlib: connection to neptuno:0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Error: Can't open display: neptuno:0.0 How can I change this ? Say you are running X as user mario If you would telnet or login or su to root, then it is very easy: export DISPLAY=:0 export XAUTHORITY=~mario/.Xauthority and you can let root start aplication on the xserver. The .Xauthority file contains the session owner's magic cookie that is used for authentification. If you want to do this as an arbitrary other user, then there is a problem because an arbitrary user can't read the contents of .Xauthority ( look at the permissions. ) You can work around this by changing the permission on the file, but that is not a good solution because it mostly defies its purpose. Better is copying it to the other user's directory as root and setting the permissions so that only that user can read it. Then set the XAUTHORITY variable accordingly and it will also work. The generic ( and best ) solution is to use xauth. Read the manpage ;-) Cheers, Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Permission Denied
From the system you are telnetting from (system running the x-server), try using 'xhost +' or xhost +(name of machine allowed access). You have to allow other systems to connect to the x-server by using the xhost command. xhost +hostname or xhost -hostname Matthew On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe wrote: Hi. Suppose I have X running. I have a shell and in that shell I telnet to the same machine but under a different user. When i try to run any X app (say xfig) i guet the following messages : Xlib: connection to neptuno:0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Error: Can't open display: neptuno:0.0 How can I change this ? -- Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neptuno.uevora.pt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Permission Denied
Hi. Suppose I have X running. I have a shell and in that shell I telnet to the same machine but under a different user. When i try to run any X app (say xfig) i guet the following messages : Xlib: connection to neptuno:0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Error: Can't open display: neptuno:0.0 How can I change this ? -- Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neptuno.uevora.pt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How do I - boot into maitenence mode?
David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I - boot into maitenence mode. Try linux single and linux -b at the LILO: prompt. Or boot off the rescue disk. -- Carey Evans * http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ gc kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. Sending cookies. kernel: validated probe(17f, 17f, 11557, 5010, -1645409555) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Ok. Please mail me about PnP if you have new information. I will try the new
kernels for myslf some time (far away from now, I suppose... lot to do).
(I've sent another message to the list about it in the meantime.)
2.1.59 has that problem too, 2.0.29 too... it is just out of memory
(I recently reduced swap partition from 33Mb to 8Mb as it nearly never
worked - 32 Mb ram BTW - and when it worked it was 2-3 megs and I needed
to collect disk space...
[snip]
8MB swap is far to low, if you ask me. Although you have 32 MB, if you run
out of memory, it can break you suddenly, and important work can be at loss.
Sure, a risk. Depends on what you do.
What is your mail reader?
pine
-
Marcus, as you allowed me to do it, I forward this to the list, maybe of
interest.
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Hehe, you can use 8MB Chaos bank with 4MB RAM!
What is the Chaos bank, something to have the card playing just like some
syntethizer out there? BTW, anything to have it playing similarly to the
Yamaha Clavinova or I ask too much with 4 megs ram?
Look at the bottom of the awedrv home page. Chaos are very good sfb's. huge
and from superb quality, I can mail you the adress sometime (are short in
time now).
(A-ehm, are you still working on 0.4.2c/sources? Did you think about
contacting the Debian awe-* packages maintainer and help update them using
the binaries...? Perhaps it is better to also have the sources compile
ok.)
I will take a look at the sources this week. University is first now, it is
really hard! Math and phyics the whole week.
-
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nicole,
A-ehm, NicolA is a male name in Italy, just think about Nicolas in the
USA.
Ah, about that cheap MIDI (possibly mute) keyboard, I saw that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] was talking about it too, he was looking
for midi software packages and mainly for software synthesis.
Well, speaking of that, this is what I settled on. I turned out
getting a Yamaha PSR-220. It cost about $220US, and considering that
was not much more expensive than the keyboard with no sounds of its
own, was better to get that one. Including power supply, warrenty,
and midi camble, turned out costing about $300US total.
It has turned out working very well. It works fine in place of a
sound card (sounds MUCH better than FM Synthesis), and doesn't take
up the processor like soft. syn. does. (thus making it possible to
play games like Doom with it). It also works very well for inputting
into a sequencer, as it can sense how hard you hit keys, etc.
I'd say that for a midi-comp. keyboard, this is about as low as
you'd want to go. Instruments sounded much more realistic (in
general) than the Casio I tried. Has no pitch-wheel, but can play
pitch-bend commands (so you could always add that later in the
sequencer or something).
The only dumb keyboard with no sounds in it, looked fairly nice,
but I don't think it'd be worth it unless you found it for like
$100US. Otherwise, might as well pay a bit more for the Yamaha and
get a nice built-in synthesizer, and the ability to practice without
being tied to the computer...
Yes, you're right, not nice being tied to the computer... not nice FM too
nor eating CPU cycles for soft synthesis if you want the CPU to do
something else... as you told you can use your synth-capable-keyboard for
General Midi sounds from games (though here you _are_ tied to the computer
and AWE is not bad in this case)... I think your Yamaha PSR-200 _is_
General Midi compliant by now, isn't it? How many octaves has the
keyboard, 4, 5 or 7? Did you have to buy a sustain pedal apart of it?
I think games are very nice for an OS to be more widely used, and Linux
could support both the _very_powerful_solid_graphics kind of games and
the abstract_fast_X_fascinating_graphics kind, of course both with
astonishing sounds :-) maybe in part math-generated and graphics-related
(I still have to give a look at software such as kandinsky). Maybe one day
some Debian-original ultra-eye_ear_MIND-catching game...?
Where do you play Doom, Linux or DOS? If Linux, does it need anything else
but a properly configured kernel in order to send to the external MIDI
synth?... Maybe a doom-specific sound server does anything? Is there a
Debian package?... I can't find one on the 1.3.1. CD... I had it on my
very first Linux install years ago (or the second one...) and will give a
look at some more recent CDs I have here. I tried abuse yesterday from the
Debian package [not the one with 1.2.4, sound broken to me {but SVGA}, the
one with 1.3.1 {but only X, not SVGA it seems}] and it looks very
interesting (more than recent demos I saw in (Win)DOG with sophisticated
3d-like graphics), and sounds give a _very_ interesting taste; it seems
they chose to have no music in it.
There's also LISP stuff to draw enemies behaviour it
Re: Sound
Jason Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #1 Wrong Sound Card I have (according to the manual) an ISP=16v3 audio board. I don't see that anywhere in the kernel config or the hardware how-to doc. This sounds like the sound card I have, which is a Mediamagic ISP16 something. I have it configured as a MAD16, with OPL2/OPL3, /dev/dsp, MIDI interfac and FM synth. I haven't got MPU401 going; I'm not sure if I have one. I also have ISP16 configured under CD-ROM drivers, for my CDU-33A. #2 Simply not compiling and/or installing module correctly. As i said before, i have sound set as a module. Here are the steps i go through when i am trying the different options: [snip] reboot ^^ Were you a Microsoft programmer in a former life? You don't need to reboot to test different modules. After installing a different version of the sound module, you should be able to type modprobe sound to load the sound module. Then try cat /dev/sndstat to see if it got installed properly, and do modprobe -r sound to get rid of it. If modprobe doesn't seem to work, then do depmod -a first. If you make big changes, you might then need to recompile the whole kernel, install it, and reboot. -- Carey Evans * http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ gc kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. Sending cookies. kernel: validated probe(17f, 17f, 11557, 5010, -1645409555) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: new debian user questions
On 22 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I'm fairly familiar with it, having used it to (among other things) configure cnews since the early 1980's. However, I was responding to someone who claimed that every Debian package includes a config tool. Having read the original post, I was under the impression that this would be a desirable state, not necessarily an expression of the current state. That is, the original statement was made in response to the suggestion that Debian would be better off with several distinct small tools; the respondent meant to express (I believe) that this approach would fit well with Debian's packaging system - I suspect a minor typing slip or something similar caused them to leave out a word or two, making the resulting statement something like: (from memory, as I've long since deleted the message) This would be good for Debian, because every package has its own configuration tool. I believe that this statement came out stronger than was intended. So... Does diety attempt to integrate the configuration tools that do come with some of the Debian packages? And what about the question earlier of having the configuration menus that appear during initial setup available without booting from the install CD/floppy? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ftape denies tob permission
Hallo, I have installed an Iomega Ditto 2G-drive and have compiled ftape-3.04-beta-5 and completed the suggested tests successfully. When I want to use tob (as root), however, I get the message /sbin/tob: /dev/ftape: Permission denied. The same happens when I try to use /dev/nqft0 in the place of /dev/ftape. The permissions are as follows: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root19514 May 28 1996 /sbin/tob* crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 27, 0 Oct 20 19:27 /dev/ftape crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 27, 0 Oct 20 19:27 /dev/nqft0 How can I correct that? Johann. Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NIS problems
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Bao C. Ha wrote: I have the plus entries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group in the client, not in the master. /etc/passwd +:* ^-- This is your problem. You must remove the asterisk, since it will overwrite the pw_passwd entry from NIS (this is unlike SunOS). A single + ist enough. Greetings, Swen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: MAIL: Odd smail-exim problem
bar.com!foo.com!%s will not work because smail generates a routing error because the address must be in internet format for that transport. Yes this DOES work. I do not know why it did not work when I tried it earlier. I must have made a type someplace. All is working well if I put the intermediate stop in there. --- George Bonser Debian/GNU Linux See http://www.debian.org Linux ... It isn't just for breakfast anymore! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
MAIL: Odd smail-exim problem
I know this is not debian specific but maybe someone here has experiance with this. I have a smail mailhost that sends mail using demand_inet_uusmtp transport to send mail to a second system using exim that is ultimately bound for a third system. My mail/force.path entry for the destination site looks like this: foo.com bar.com!%s which tells smail to send any mail for foo.com to bar.com. bar.com!foo.com!%s will not work because smail generates a routing error because the address must be in internet format for that transport. Now imagine I am sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Smail sends it with the correct To: header BUT the RCPT TO is changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the exim site (foo) bounces it. If the intermediate site is smail, everything works correctly ... it looks like smail tooks at To: while exim looks at the ENVELOPE and smail rewrites the envelope. I suppose my question is either 1) How do I tell smail that mail to bar.com goes through foo.com using internet addressing with batched SMTP WITHOUT changing the envelope RCPT TO to foo.com. In other words, deliver the mail to foo.com with a RCPT TO of [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR How do I tell exim to use the To: header rather than the envelope RCPT TO for delivery? Exim 1.62-3 (Debian) Smail 3.2 (Debian) --- George Bonser Debian/GNU Linux See http://www.debian.org Linux ... It isn't just for breakfast anymore! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Year 2000 Debian
Andy Dougherty wrote: Groff-1.10 had a couple of problems in some of the macro packages. [...] (This may all be corrected in 1.3.1 -- I don't have access to a 1.3.1 system now to check. I know it's been reported to the groff maintainer, but I haven't checked whether the groff-1.11 fixes the problem or not.) Not. groff-1.11a is a orphaned release with only a new documentation manual for pic. The author removed his name from some files and stated it as orphaned (on 11 August 1997). If you have any fix for those oddities, please put them in a bug report and send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Procmail and Pine
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Will Lowe wrote: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:43:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Users List debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Procmail and Pine Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:49:39 -0400 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Hmm. I've got a working procmailrc which sends mail from all the debian lists to ~/mail/debian, which is a pine mail folder. The problem is that pine expects this: ^A^A^A^A ^A^A^A^A between each message in a folder, and procmail isn't putting them there. This means that all 10-15 messages put into the folder by procmail look like one huge message to pine. Any way to get procmail to insert the delimiters? Well, I just peeked in my pine mail folders and didn't find any such delimiters. One thing that did cause me problems with procmail was improper file locking, which led to similar problems with concatinated messages. Here's part of my procmailrc dealing with debian, note the colon at the end of the first line, it is required to make the file locking behave properly: :0w: * ^X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org inbox/debian-user-inbox your pal dave Dave Thayer Denver, Colorado USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mouse driver as loadable module?
Could anybody give me some help how to load mouse to this kernel? or help me to find out how to build a kernel to recognize the Fat32? I think this option should be include in the future debian distribution. if i'm correct, you're original kernel recognized the mouse, but not fat32? if that's the case, you can re-compile your kernel using the patch found at: http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html ...make sure to read and follow all the instructions on patching your kernel beforehand and which options to choose during config (RTFM! :) ). peace, matty -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
What happened to rpc.portmap?
Hi all I'm having a small problem with my Debian bo system, I ran dselect last night to get the latest goodies. netstd-2.16-1, netbase-2.16-1, lpr-5.9-20, and diald_0.16.4-7 seem to be the packages that were upgraded in the net sub-directory. I am also running xinetd-2.1.7-3. The first time I tried to grab my mail, after the upgrade, it failed. Now I get messages like this for all services that are controlled by xinetd: telnet catbert Trying 192.168.1.2... telnet: connect to address 192.168.1.2: Connection refused telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused I had a look through the init.d scripts and /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap seems to be gone. rpc.portmap is called by /etc/init.d/netbase and /etc/init.d/xinetd during bootup, both scripts are called in /etc/rc2.d. I looked through the packages with the deb-view add on to xemacs and didn't see rpc.portmap anywhere. I also searched the stable Packages file, no luck there either. A possibly interesting side issue is that my kbd locked during this dselect session and I had to telnet into this machine to reboot after downloading these, and some other packages. I made sure the ftp was complete, before rebooting (shutdown -r now), so I don't think I broke anything there. Did I upgrade when I shouldn't have or is something wrong with netstd or netbase? If anybody has any clues, I would appreciate hearing them. Thanks Later Rob MacWilliams -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
make dep errors
Hi, I am trying to build a new kernel after installing a new base system. After 'make config', I get this error message when I try to 'make dep': gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o scripts/mkdep scripts/mkdep.c scripts/mkdep.c:1: stdio.h: No such file or directory scripts/mkdep.c:2: stdlib.h: No such file or directory scripts/mkdep.c:4: string.h: No such file or directory scripts/mkdep.c:5: sys/types.h: No such file or directory scripts/mkdep.c:6: sys/stat.h: No such file or directory scripts/mkdep.c:7: unistd.h: No such file or directory scripts/mkdep.c:8: sys/fcntl.h: No such file or directory scripts/mkdep.c:9: sys/mman.h: No such file or directory make: *** [scripts/mkdep] Error 1 Am I just missing some links to these header files? I would appreciate if you cc'd me w/your response. I am only subscribed in digest mode. TIA, Thalia -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: KDE Questions and Approval ...
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Adam Shand wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here (possibly the enormity of the battle on 'our' hands... and I mean that seriously) but it seems to me that by choosing against something like KDE (which to all intents and purposes *is* free software to the end user) we are spiting ourselves. When Maybe _I'm_ missing something, but... I don't see the problem here. KDE already has a maintainer. There are already kde deb packages (out-of-date) and the new beta KDE deb package will be available soon for both libc5 and libc6. The only hindrance is that it will be in non-free and therefore not on official Debian CD's. Just grab it from non-free from any Debian mirror. It makes sense that the default or preferred Debian desktop/wm must be one that is on the offical CD. That shouldn't make another any harder to install and use unless the (automatic) menu support is lacking (as far as I know). There are many useful/needed packages in non-free already: glimpse, gs-aladdin, jdk, majordomo, pico, pine, qt, quake, rman, tkman, unzip, xanim, xv, zip, to name a few. ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Just tell me what SCSI card works without a hitch...
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted as well. and I will return this Adaptec 2940 before you can bat an eye :-) -- Terrence Brannon * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://quake.usc.edu/~brannon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Stopping mail download
I'm currently trying (and not getting all that far ;-) to get my internet connection all set up and running. I've managed to log onto my ISP without much trouble, although I can't remember exactly how, and have done FTPs and so on. However, until I get my news/email stuff set up properly I don't want Debian downloading any mail for me, so that I can get it later in Win95. So, how does one disable mail download? And yes, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to Linux at the moment. rob. :-) -- I'm running out of strength to even ask now. This dual-boot will be the death of me. = (send replies to rob@) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Year 2000 Debian
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: Before 100 people jump to correct me, yes, time_t overflows after Tuesday, January 19, 03:14:07 2038. Fixing this requires that time_t by typedefed as a 64-bit quantity and then programs using it must be recompiled. One would hope that the world can find something better than POSIX, C, and Unix by 2038. That's what they said when they wrote the PC BIOS nearly twenty years ago! :-) Rich. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian Book Published
Dear Debian Users, You are getting this mail because you subscribed to the debian-announce mailing list. As always, un-subscription information appears at the end of this message. Linux Press has announced the publication of a book about Debian. I downloaded it from http://www.linuxpress.com/debuser.htm. It is a 360K HTML file. How can I convert it to a nicely formated postscript file ? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
GCC/G++ with frepo
Is there a debian package of gcc with the repository mechanism patch from cygnus? I had a older version of gcc with the patch, 2.7.1. But I've upgraded to debian 1.2 and this version no longer works. So I need a new version. I would prefer a binary distribution, but source is fine too. --jc -- Jimen Ching (WH6BRR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
The Debian Alpha maintainers have some inappropriate elitism
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted as well. I dont understand why the Debian Alpha maintainers want to act as if Alpha users dont exist. We are constantly ignored when asking for installation instructions and constantly ignored when making FAQ suggestions. They seem to want to talk over our head. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: The Debian Alpha maintainers have some inappropriate elitism
I dont understand why the Debian Alpha maintainers want to act as if Alpha users dont exist. We are constantly ignored when asking for installation instructions and constantly ignored when making FAQ suggestions. They seem to want to talk over our head. This is unreleased development software, maybe they just aren't ready for you yet. Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X-Windows and Bash Settings
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Jason Bauer wrote: I've got Debian Linux 1.3 using bash for a shell. When I go into X-Windows (Afterstep win. manager) I lose all of my aliases and other settings that Do you mean these settings don't work if you (for example) start up an xterm with bash in it? get run in my .bash-profile when I login That's the problem. .bash-profile is run *only* for login shells -- when you start an xterm, you're not logging in again, so bash doesn't read ..bash-profile. You've got a pair of bash settings files: .bashrc (run for non-login shells, like xterms) and .bash_profile (run only for login shells). This is so you can do things like set terminals up and check for mail only when you login -- don't need to do this otherwise. The simplest soluction is to put all the login-specific stuff in ..bash_profile, and put all your aliases and other setups in .bashrc. Then make the last line of .bash_profile be source .bashrc -- so that stuff gets loaded even in login shells. On my system, the first xterm that is opened does not run .bashrc. I have to open other xterms if I want an xterm with .bashrc activated. Why is that ? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Where do I start??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi. I am still on an upwards climb on the Linux learning curve. I just bought an ascend router for ISDN access and my roommate has a Win95 machine that would like access to the internet via PPP as well as my Linux machine. My router has a network interface and both my linux box and his Win95 machine are plugged into a hub along with the router. Where do I start in the configuration process and what do I need to do Any help is greatly appreciated. Ian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNE6cdVDDElfOc3D9AQHrOAP/dYwQbx3orQMdhzEVrR17kOaR3gARLPab f8YERPMBrGgbuTGq9wOaDTCTeCc+gp+CItWwO0BqCswfygE9n7CDOyUL3LHllgbK AwjaEUPvcvkwvb1LtlDvn6Jm5C1CW7gXieu56CeQNHfGRCdXR5+2GIXX00p9vhYI tXC/MmA8U9U= =wW8S -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Procmail and Pine
Hmm. I've got a working procmailrc which sends mail from all the debian lists to ~/mail/debian, which is a pine mail folder. The problem is that pine expects this: ^A^A^A^A ^A^A^A^A between each message in a folder, and procmail isn't putting them there. This means that all 10-15 messages put into the folder by procmail look like one huge message to pine. Any way to get procmail to insert the delimiters? Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: The Debian Alpha maintainers have some inappropriate elitism
On second thought, perhaps I should be asking you to write the installation instructions and the FAQ. Since you describe yourself as a user, you must have figured it out :-) Thanks Bruce I dont understand why the Debian Alpha maintainers want to act as if Alpha users dont exist. We are constantly ignored when asking for installation instructions and constantly ignored when making FAQ suggestions. They seem to want to talk over our head. This is unreleased development software, maybe they just aren't ready for you yet. -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X problems
Hi, I have tried to upgrade to the libc6 X. All was going alright apart from some ldso warnigs when I upgraded xlib6, most of which went away when I installed xlib6-altdev and installed xlib6g and xlib6g-dev. I upgraded all the other stuff and all seemed fine. Then I tried running X -query localhost as I usually do. I got the xdm prompt and logged in, then I started getting some of the fvwm2 stuff I have but then X stopped and I got back to the xdm prompt. I saw no other way but to downgrade to 3.3.4 Anybody has any idea as to what happened ? Additionally, I now get an xdm window whenever I boot up despite having the no-xdm-start-server in /etc/X11/config. As it has been a long time since I played around with X I don't remember what to do. Any help would be appreciated Thanks George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Hello, total idiot here plesea rospedn :)
As far as I know, java related packages are in the non-free area, so this cdrom is not official. You would have to complain to whom you purchased the CDs. Not quite true, I noticed this as well... java-kaffe (spelling possibly wront) *is* included in the contrib directory on the Official 1.3.1 Debian CD. Unfortunatetly none of the other bits are there because they come in non-free. I simply disregarded it because I knew what was going on, but it could be confusing for newbies :-) Adam. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DMA with IDE on Triton II
Thanks Bob and Bruce for your suggestions. Quoting Bob Nielsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Have you compiled your kernel with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRITON=y Yes, I have. I get: hdparm -d1 /dev/hda /dev/hda: setting using_dma to 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) However, the man page says: -d Disable/enable the using_dma flag for this drive. This option only works with a few combinations of ^^^ drives and interfaces which support DMA and which ^^^ are known to the IDE driver. In particular, the ^^^ It could be that your controller card isn't supported. Is there a list of supported controller cards somewhere? I couldn't find it. Another possibility is that I connect the hard disk to the IDE controller on the motherboard. (I guess there's not much point using the Ultra DMA card if I can't get it to DMA...) Does this sound reasonable? Tim. -- Tim Bell .--_|\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Department of Computer Science \_.--._/ University of Melbourne, Australia v -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Mouse driver as loadable module?
Hi, everyone, I am a new debian and unix user. I had debian 1.3.1 installed on my PC with linux partition along the Win95 Fat32 partition, everything seems worked fine. It'll be nice to be able to mount the win95. But the debian installation didn't give me the choice to config the kernal to recognize the Fat32. So, I repartitioned win95 into Fat16. But it did not give me enough space to hold the win95 stuff which I don't want to throw away yet. I was impressed by the space saving of Fat32. In a short, I had to stick to Fat32. Since I am a new unixer, I read those kernel howto to see whether I can recompile the kernel to recognize Fat32, but could not get any clue. Then I found this slackware kernel which recognize the Fat32. I boot from it and it worked fine. I am able to mount the win95 with vfat. But my mouse is not working anymore. gpm and xserver complained no such device. This kernel at it claimed is able to load modules dynamiclly. So, I tried kerneld to load mouse according to the kerneld mini howto. The depmode gave lot of error of unresolved symbol, blah. then I tried modprobe and insmod manully, they all give same error message of: unresolved symbol misc_deregister . unresolved symbol misc_register . Could anybody give me some help how to load mouse to this kernel? or help me to find out how to build a kernel to recognize the Fat32? I think this option should be include in the future debian distribution. Sorry for the long message, I hope to give you a clearer idea where the problem came from. Thanks a million! Feng ** * Feng Qian * * Dept. of Pharmacol. Physiol. Sci.* * The University of Chicago * * Phone: (773) 702-0755 * * e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: KDE Questions and Approval ...
Hey Bruce, You should be aware that we have a little problem with KDE. It uses Qt, which isn't free software by Debian's definition. For this reason, Yes I saw your post the other day regarding the alternatives. Is GNOME usable as a day to day solution yet? I noticed that there isn't a Debian package for it (or not one I can see anyway). we are looking very hard at several upcoming replacements for KDE, and will probably designate one as our preferred graphical desktop when it is ready. If I had to guess which one that would be today, I'd say GNOME, which you can read about at http://www.gnome.org/ . Maybe I'm missing something here (possibly the enormity of the battle on 'our' hands... and I mean that seriously) but it seems to me that by choosing against something like KDE (which to all intents and purposes *is* free software to the end user) we are spiting ourselves. When something like GNOME or Berlin is a viable solution for people then by all means, embrace that solution as it fits with our/Debian's adgenda better, but until then why not encourage people to use KDE? It seems like the best option going at the moment... Other Linux distributions that care about free software will be making similar decisions. This seems spitefull to me... it seems that there are issues at stake which are not being spoken outloud... but then again, maybe I'm missing something. Adam. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: pppd not making the connection
On 22 Oct, G. Crimp wrote: Oct 22 04:26:48 name pppd[209]: Serial connection established. :49 : ioctl (PPPIOGUNIT): Operation not permitted :49 : ioctl (PPPIOGDEBUG): Operation not permitted :49 : Exit Anyone know what is wrong ? I think so. Please check pppd's permissions. They should be: -rwsr-xr-- 1 root dialout 84608 Jun 20 08:13 /usr/sbin/pppd And make sure the user you use for connecting is in group dialout. Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Sound
I've been trying for about a week to get sound to work to no avail. I am running kernel 2.0.30 with sound compiled as a module. The error I get (when i get an error.. with xplaymidi it just acts like its playing but no sound comes out) is /dev/audio: No such device or address. There are 2 possibilities of where I can be going wrong. #1 Wrong Sound Card I have (according to the manual) an ISP=16v3 audio board. I don't see that anywhere in the kernel config or the hardware how-to doc. Inside the manual is says it is compatible with Adlib, Soundblsater, MS Win sound System, General MIDI. It has a YAMAHA OPL3 FM Synthesiser. I've tried soundblaster, with OPL3, without OPL3, just OPL3.. When i boot into Win95 it says it has MPU-401 interface so I tried that with and without the above options and it still doesn't work. Does anyone out there have experiance with this sound card or can tell me which one to choose #2 Simply not compiling and/or installing module correctly. As i said before, i have sound set as a module. Here are the steps i go through when i am trying the different options: make xconfig make dep make clean make modules make modules_install reboot Is that correct?? I've been reading about depmod but I don't know what its purpose is or when I would use it. All of this is done as root. If it matters i boot off of a floppy. -- Jason Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guru 23 Computing Services You break it, We fix it! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
pppd not making the connection
I can't make a pppd connection using /usr/sbin/pppd -d -debug as a user. I know the pap-secrets, chatscript and options file are OK because I have made connections with them. I recently reinstalled Debian 1.1 to a brand spanking new HD, and now it won't work. I've forgotten to change something with my new system but I can't figure out what. Here is the output from /var/log/messages and /var/log/daemon.log when I try pppd as a user. I don't get these messages as root. /var/log/daemon.log : Oct 22 04:26:48 name pppd[209]: Serial connection established. :49 : ioctl (PPPIOGUNIT): Operation not permitted :49 : ioctl (PPPIOGDEBUG): Operation not permitted :49 : Exit I get this far in the chat script : /var/log/messages : Oct 22 04:35:42 machinename chat[245]: CONNECT -- got it Oct 22 04:35:42 machinename chat[245]: send (^M) Oct 22 04:35:43 machinename chat[245]: expect (ogin:) Oct 22 04:35:43 machinename chat[245]: 115200^M Oct 22 04:35:44 machinename chat[245]: ^M Oct 22 04:35:44 machinename chat[245]: ^M Oct 22 04:35:44 machinename chat[245]: login: -- got it Oct 22 04:35:44 machinename chat[245]: send (user_ID^M) Oct 22 04:35:45 machinename chat[245]: expect (assword:) Oct 22 04:35:45 machinename chat[245]: ^M Oct 22 04:35:45 machinename chat[245]: login: user_ID^M Oct 22 04:35:45 machinename chat[245]: Password: -- got it Oct 22 04:35:45 machinename chat[245]: send (mysecret^M) Anyone know what is wrong ? Gerald -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Advansys Scsi Adapters
Hello, I was wondering about the experience of users of these adapters with linux? it seems that adaptec has not really been that open to the linux community. allan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dselect and non-standard package directories
According to Shaul Karl. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My CD (from Linux System Labs) contains only part of the material you have. From where did you got yours ? Sorry, it took a while. I had to take a closer look at it first. Okay, besides stable contrib non-free local there is also: non-US project/experimental project/misc project/orphaned project/other_kernels This is a CD from JFL, a book store in Germany. (a href=http://www.lob.de;Lehmanns Online Bookshop/a) So, I guess you don't know of a method to tell dselect to search through those directories, too, right? Could I manually cat the Packages file into the available file??? Bye, Andy. ___ Andy Spiegl, University of Technology, Muenchen, Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.appl-math.tu-muenchen.de/~spiegl PGP fingerprint: B8 48 24 7B DB 96 6F 1C D9 6D 8E 6C DB C2 E7 E9 o _ _ _ - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ ~~~ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V97 #905
Has anyone used the Enlightenment Window Manager with XFree86 and Debian? I have seen the screen shots and I am currently trying to set it up. It looks really nice and sounds like it has lots of features. I would appreciate any helpful hints and/or suggestions you might have on this matter. Thanx! ~ D. Hageman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
VIA Chipsets and Linux
I am considering purchasing a motherboard using one of the VIA chipsets (VP1, VPX, VP2) instead of a TX-based motherboard. Does anybody know of any compatability issues, such as IDE drivers, etc..? I'm considering the Rhino-12+ from Octek (Ocean) or a FIC PA-2007. The Rhino uses the VPX chipset (although its listed as using the VP1) and the PA-2007 uses the VP2. Does anybody have one of these boards to generate useful comments? Thank-you for your indulgence, -- Jon Nelson U of MN Housing and Res. Life Computing Supervisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: The Debian Alpha maintainers have some inappropriate elitism
Chris, thanks for the clarification. Dave Christopher C Chimelis wrote: *meant* to say was that if there are any questions regarding Debian on Alphas, please post the questions to the debian-alpha list. Thanks for pointing it out to me again.. :) -- --David E. Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Mike or Trish Oberholzer wrote: Thankyou both for the excellent response. I am looking forward to You're quite welcome. downloading or ordering Debian. I'd recommend the CD (you can generally get it for around $10 US) just because downloading all those packages can be a pain when you're trying to get started. Did I read the webpage correctly, it stated something to the effect of ...'you may load and run Debian on the same hard drive that you have WIN95 on' ? Sure. I do it. There's a program that will let you choose between them at boot time. You might have to resize your harddrive partitions, as most people who only use Win95 only have one partition -- this can be done with a few utilities that are around. Also, what does the acronym Debian stand for? Debra and Ian -- the two people who started the distribution. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Is there a Debian news group?
Hello, Any one know if there is an equivilent debian news group to this mailing list? Its just that there is so much stuff coming in that I am swamped. It would be so much easier to read it with a news reader. Thanks Tze Weng Foong -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: VIA Chipsets and Linux
I am running a VP2 with a Cyrix 200 CPU. It does IDE busmastering beautifully under 2.1.59. I got this 5 months ago and sent information regarding the PCI Ids of the Mobo to the PCI maintainer. Now all kernels recognize the VIA hardware very well. 2.0.X does not support Busmastering IDE transfers as far as I know. (Side question: Is the boa for hamm ready yet?) In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: : I am considering purchasing a motherboard using one of the : VIA chipsets (VP1, VPX, VP2) instead of a TX-based motherboard. : Does anybody know of any compatability issues, such as IDE drivers, : etc..? I'm considering the Rhino-12+ from Octek (Ocean) or a : FIC PA-2007. The Rhino uses the VPX chipset (although its listed : as using the VP1) and the PA-2007 uses the VP2. : Does anybody have one of these boards to generate useful comments? -- --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- Please always CC me when replying to posts on mailing lists. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Xvfb
I'm trying to install net-fu, and it seems that I am missing Xvfb. Anyone know what package it comes in? I just upgraded from X 3.2 to 3.3...I was hoping that Xvfb would be in there, but I guess I missed the package for that. Upgrading was certainly a bad idea. X doesn't work now. When I try to start X the hd starts running as the program starts to load, the screen blanks, and then everything just locks up. But I guess this is an entirely different question... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
