Re: qic-02

1997-11-20 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Mike Schmitz admin0 wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
> 
> > Mike Schmitz admin0 wrote:
> > >
> > > I am trying to set up a mountain qic-02 drive with debian. The default
> > > kernel seems to be compiled with qic-02 support, and comes up with a blurb
> > > on bootup about finding a tpqic device. I am not sure what device to use.
> >
> > Take a look at the FTape howto. It should tell you everything you
> > need to know.
> >
> 
> The Ftape howto explicitly says it does _not_ cover qic-02 tapes.

Ok. You got me there. If your kernel is detecting the device, you're
looking pretty good. Next you may need to create the device files.
You should run:

   /dev/MAKEDEV qic

While will create /dev/tpqic11, /dev/ntpqic11 (rewinding, non-rewinding
respectively) and so on for format types 24, 120, 150. Once that's
done (and assuming all the device configuration is correct) you'll
be able to do things like:

  tar -cf /dev/tpqic11 /home/myhomedir

Ok? Sorry to point you toward the useless Ftape howto. Note that 
there's information in there which can be applied (or adapted) to
QIC-02 since not all of it is specific only to QIC-80, etc. (Like
stuff on how to make an emergency repair disk that will allow you
to restore from tape.)

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popassd

1997-11-20 Thread Bao C. Ha

I am having a hard time to get poppassd (1.2.5) to work in Debian 1.3.1.


Appreciate any suggestions/comments.

Thanks.
Bao

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Re: good crack program

1997-11-20 Thread LeRoy D. Cressy
Paul wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody, is there a good crack program.  I can't seem to find
> qcrack.  Can somebody tell me where to find qcrack.
> thanks
> Paul
> 

Run dselect and look in the administration sections for it. 

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Re: How do I refresh a Linux SCSI bus?

1997-11-20 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> I would like to know if there is a way to refresh the SCSI bus under
> Linux.
> 
> I know that on a Win95 box, if you plug an un-powered SCSI device into
> the external SCSI port, power up the device, and refresh the system
> from the Device Manager the system find new SCSI devices. I have done
> this with my JAZ drive many, many times. All of the SCSI cards we use
> are auto terminating, but I have yet to find a way to do this under
> Linux.
> 
> I refuse to believe that there is something that a Microslash product
> can do that Linux can't.

Hi.

I myself use the following ugly trick with my SyJet. It works only
because all other filesystems I use are on IDE drive. I have my 
SCSI adapter driver compiled as a module which is loaded on startup.
When I want to use the SyJet, I just rmmod and re - insmod this module.
Device is detected.
I am sure there is another way to do it though.

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Re: help with mounting particular CD

1997-11-20 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 When I mount a cd on my system, the mount command returns the
file system detected on the cd:

hilliard:vc-2:bob>mount /cd
ISO9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A

Bob

> On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, JD Thomlinson wrote:
>  
> I've got a CD that won't mount on FreeBSD 2.2.2 
> (Yes, I'm working on getting them to install 
> Debian ;) ).
> 
> Naturally, Debian (2.0.39) has no problem mounting and 
> reading the directory structure.
> 
> Can anyone give me pointers to a Debian utility that could 
> give me the file system type that Debian so sucessfully 
> has mounted? Apparently it's not iso9660, or at least 
> FBSD won't mount it as iso9660. FBSD will mount other CDs 
> as iso9660. The CD is supposedly accessible by Unix, Win 95 
> & NT, and Mac. I have managed to refuse to install Win 95 & 
> NT so far, and am not about to start. 
> 
> Any potential help or pointers will be appreciated!


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Re: where is domainname from?

1997-11-20 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> arca:~$ dpkg -S /bin/domainname
> dpkg: /bin/domainname not found.
> 
> It must be a recent file because:
> arca:~$ ldd /bin/domainname
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

I get:

gatekeeper$ dpkg --search domainname
nis: /bin/nisdomainname
hostname: /usr/man/man1/dnsdomainname.1.gz
hostname: /bin/dnsdomainname
manpages: /usr/man/man2/getdomainname.2.gz
nis: /bin/domainname
manpages: /usr/man/man2/setdomainname.2.gz
nis: /usr/man/man1/domainname.1.gz
nis: /usr/man/man1/nisdomainname.1.gz

Of course I'm using bo, but I'm assuming it's still in the same
package.

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Re: can't load library

1997-11-20 Thread Rick Hawkins

> > this error only happened after upgrading to libc6, which i did by 
> > following the instructions in the mini-howto.  does this mean i have to
> > upgrade all of X also?
> > 
> > brad

> Well, you probably should, even though this error doesn't mean that you
> need to.  Check your /etc/ld.so.conf file and make sure it contains
> /usr/X11R6/lib

I found it necessary to upgrade all of X when I went to libc6.  SOme of the 
pieces just didn't seem to like one antohter.

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Re: can't load library

1997-11-20 Thread B. Bell
On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Daniel Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, B. Bell wrote:
> > when i try to start x i get the following errors:
> > $ startx
> > xauth: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6'
> > xinit: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6'

> need to.  Check your /etc/ld.so.conf file and make sure it contains
> /usr/X11R6/lib

it does.  here's mine:
/usr/local/lib
/usr/lib/libc5-compat
/lib/libc5-compat
/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/lib/i486-linuxaout
/usr/X11R5/lib
/usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout

brad


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[Q] multi-disk

1997-11-20 Thread Vladislav Papayan x285
Hello,
I have root partition on /dev/hda5
/usr and /home directories on /dev/hdb1

I have another Harddisk I would like to put it
such that it increases the space for my /usr and /home
I compiled my kernel to include linear and Raid personalities
for MD.  My question is: is it doable to mount my new disk
in such a way that it increases transparently the space on 
my /dev/hdb1 device?



Vladislav


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Re: can't load library

1997-11-20 Thread Daniel Martin
On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, B. Bell wrote:

> when i try to start x i get the following errors:
> $ startx
> xauth: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6'
> xinit: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6'
>

> 
> this error only happened after upgrading to libc6, which i did by 
> following the instructions in the mini-howto.  does this mean i have to
> upgrade all of X also?
> 
> brad

Well, you probably should, even though this error doesn't mean that you
need to.  Check your /etc/ld.so.conf file and make sure it contains
/usr/X11R6/lib
If it doesn't, then add the line and run 'ldconfig' as root.  You might
then want to try to figure out what other directories should be in your
/etc/ld.so.conf and aren't; my (bo) system lists the following:
/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw95
/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/local/lib
/usr/lib/libc5-compat
/lib/libc5-compat
/usr/X11R5/lib
/usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout

I don't know how you'd go about constructing the list of what should be in
/etc/ld.so.conf, though.  (a find for all dirs containing files ending in
'*.so' produces too many erroneous entries)


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can't load library

1997-11-20 Thread B. Bell
when i try to start x i get the following errors:
$ startx
xauth: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6'
xinit: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6'

what exactly does it mean by 'can't load library' - because:
$ ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Nov 19 15:04
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 -> libXmu.so.6.0
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root68156 Oct 17 22:11
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6.0

this error only happened after upgrading to libc6, which i did by 
following the instructions in the mini-howto.  does this mean i have to
upgrade all of X also?

brad



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Re: Configuring Pine

1997-11-20 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Daniel Martin wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Johann Spies wrote:
> > 
> > > If you look at the header of this message, you will see that where the
> > > other messages shows the sender of the message, this one shows "To:
> > > Debian-poslys .".  
> > > 
> > > How do I change that?  I am using Pine and smail.
> > > 
> 
> First off, only you see things that way; the rest of us don't.
> What you're seeing is just a feature of Pine - by default, the fourth
> field in an index listing is the sender of a message if it isn't you, or
> "To: Recipient name" if it is you.  Frankly, I think that this makes a lot
> more sense than always showing the sender of the message, especially when
> browsing your "sent-mail" folder.  But if you really must have things this
> way, go into the pine configuration (Main menu->Setup->Config) and change
> the index-format value to:
> STATUS MSGNO DATE FROM(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%)
> 
> I will repeat that in all likelihood it is better not to make this change,
> and that the difference between your mail and others' mail only is showing
> up in pine's index viewer; the rest of us see nothing different about your
> messages.
> 
> DANIEL MARTIN

Thank you.  Sorry for asking a stupid question, but now at least I have
learnt something.

Johann.


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xinetd does not run at boot

1997-11-20 Thread Nick Gilliam

I know this is probably something really simple but after
installing xinetd in place of inetd, the super server (xinetd)
no longer loads at boot.

As root I can run it from the command line.

I looked in the rc2.d thru rc5.d directories and symbolics links
point to xinetd.

Any suggestions.

Tnx,
Nick Gilliam


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Re: laptop problems

1997-11-20 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David S. Zelinsky)
> (In reference to an earlier thread: how can anyone complain about a project
> leader who actually answers users' questions?)

Because I'm not perfect by their standards. Sigh.

> So if all the devices seem to work, does that mean I won't have any problem
> with the shadow RAM?  Is there some way to be sure about this?

If it works, the only problem is that you aren't getting the memory you
paid for. That would drive some people _crazy_ :-)

> I guess I'll try deleting it and see what happens!

Do a "dd" of the partition to a file, so that you can restore it. Run
fdisk on Linux and read out its partition type number.

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Re: Configuring Pine

1997-11-20 Thread Johann Spies


On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> I probably don't understand your question, because my answer is, "You type
> that field in yourself!".
> 
.
Hallo Dave,

Now I feel stupid.

I have checked again.  It is actually not the header of the messages, but
it when I move to an index eg. that of Pine's INBOX that the messages that
I sent to a list and that were resent to me via the list, show up with a
To: Listname in the field where all the other messages from the list show
the author of the message.

It is not serious. I just thought it might be because of some
configuration mistake on my side.

Johann.



 
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Re: fetchmail and friends

1997-11-20 Thread David Stern
On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Dima wrote:

> > David Stern wrote:
> >
> >My fetchmail, sendmail, and procmail configuration has passed initial
> >testing for use with ppp and imap (my isp recomends imap over pop3),
> >though it's not been automated or tweaked as of yet.
> >
> >I have one important issue to resolve: when I view my email in exmh (57
> >messages), I found that all my messages were concatenated into a single
> >message. 
> 
> I'd say you're using mbox (all messages in a single file) format whereas
> exmh wants mh folder format (each folder is a directory, messages are in
> individual files named 1, 2 etc).
> 
> You have to set up mh maildir (usually ~/Mail) and folder(s) in there
> (default is inbox: ~/Mail/inbox), and tell procmail to deliver there, eg.
> :0w:~/Mail/inbox/.mh_sequences.LCK
> * ^TO.*
> | /usr/lib/mh/rcvstore +inbox
> 
> see procmail manpages and docs for details.

Thanks, Dimitri.  Due to your excellent help, my fetchmail works now.

There is one small issue which I've worked around, but haven't
completely resolved, because I don't understand it. When running
fetchmail -v, I get the following error output and it stalls out for
awhile, then goes to the next message, and repeats on all new messages,
doesn't matter if I'm user or root, and the messages are not fetched:

[..]
reading message 7 (2515 bytes)
fetchmail: about to deliver with: /usr/bin/procmail
#***.*
procmail: Lock failure on "~/Mail/inbox/.mh_sequences.LCK"
[..]

The man page says "Lock failure .." is due to a permissions problem.

I editted my .procmailrc and removed all the specified lockfiles (i.e.: 
":~/Mail//mh_sequences.LCK"), relying on the defaults, and
everything works.  I'm happy that it works, but I'd like to know what
the problem is with permissions. I reviewed the permissions in ~/Mail/*,
but found nothing unusual.

If you didn't have the same recipe in your .procmailrc, I might be
tempted to think I'd misread the man page where it says that lockfiles
are good with MH (not mbox), but you do, so what could the error be? 

[..]
:0w:~/Mail/debian/.mh_sequences.LCK
* ^TOdebian-*
| /usr/lib/mh/rcvstore +debian
[..]

David Stern


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Re: Linux for Amiga

1997-11-20 Thread csmall
Torsten Jonas wrote:
> here are Torsten from Hamburg, Germany. I have Interest on a Linux Package
> for the Amiga 1200.

G'day Torsten,
  First of all, I don't have anything to do with the Debian Amiga group, 
so what you are getting are observations from a user, not the "offical party
line".

AFAIK, There currently is no Amiga Debian rescue disk around, but you can
get Debian on your Amiga if you are willing to work on it.

You have to get amiboot and a amiga Linux kernel image.  You will also need
the Debian root.bin file and the base*.bin files.

I cannot really tell you what next to do, as this is where I am up to.  I
have a problem with the root disk image as it says I don't have enough
memory.  so i am going to havr to boot with a non-Debian root disk and then
do some kludging to put Debian on.

  - Craig


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RE: Linux for Amiga

1997-11-20 Thread Bill Leach
Torsten wrote:
> Hello,
> here are Torsten from Hamburg, Germany. I have Interest on a Linux
> Package for the Amiga 1200.
> Can vou help me?
> Thanks
> Torsten

First, there is a "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" list.  It is not currently 
intended to be a "real users list" such as this one.  Debian Amiga Linux 
is still in development (though like the present development i386 
version, it runs pretty good).

At the moment, installing Debian Amiga Linux is a _very_ difficult 
process as the Debian Amiga installation files do not appear to exist 
yet (the Atari ones showed up in the archives a few days ago).

One way to install that works (or at least did for me (three time so 
far), is to get the needed files from:
http://www.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de/~brederlo/debian/
and follow the instructions (there are a couple of minor errors in the 
instructions -- for instance, there is no "system.map" file to unzip as 
called for in the shell script "DoUnGZip" (the files are instead located 
in the vmlinux archive file).

This installation gives you a Debian 1.3 installation.  Personally, I 
strongly suggest that you only install the minimum installation when 
dselect is first run.  Then upgrade from libc5 to libc6 EXACTLY as 
specified in Scott Ellis' mini-HOWTO using dpkg (NOT dselect).

The upgrade every package that has a "list" file in /var/lib/dpkg/info 
by hand using dpkg (except that you can skip the ones already done using 
Scott's instructions).  You will find that you will have to install a 
couple of packages that were not already on your system (dkpg with point 
these out to you as dependency requirements)

Once you have completed these steps you should have an operational 
Debian M68K Linux system that you can upgrade and add packages using 
dselect or dpkg.

It appears to me that the two distributions (m68k and i386) are 
functionally identical once the "first time" installation is complete 
with the exception that (at the moment) there is no lilo for Amiga and 
the files necessary for booting (including the kernel image) must be 
located on an Amiga partition (very similar to a PC loadline boot).

Also, the Amiga hard disks are _very_ different from PC hard disks but 
fdisk/cfdisk appear to the user to function is exactly the same manner 
as the PC version.  Note however, that for some reason the "classic" 
partition type identifier numbers on the Amiga version are new NOT the 
same as used on the PC version (whichmight confuse a PC type if you were 
asking for help -- ie:  there are Linux native and Linux Swap but they 
are NOT type 82 and 83).  There are no limitation as to which disks or 
partitions can be booted (for the Amiga).  There is no such thing as 
"primary", "extended", and "logical" partitions on the Amiga.
There _might_ be a limit to the maximum size of a single partition 
(somewhere around 4 GB I think) but I am not if even that applies to 
Linux or not.  In general, every partition can be bootable regardless of 
location on the drive or which drive the partition is located on.

best,
-bill


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Re: How do I refresh a Linux SCSI bus?

1997-11-20 Thread Olivier THARAN
On Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 07:51:20PM +, Timm Gleason wrote:
> I would like to know if there is a way to refresh the SCSI bus under
> Linux.

To add a new device, type as root:

echo "scsi add-single-device 0 0 id 0">/proc/scsi/scsi

where id is the SCSI ID of the drive you want to appear.

To switch it off, just type:

echo "scsi remove-single-device 0 0 id 0">/proc/scsi/scsi

All this is documented in /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/scsi.c

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artifacts with diamond 2500

1997-11-20 Thread Rick Hawkins
OK, I"ve gotten it working.  Turns out that for some reason it wasn't changing 
the default xserver to svga, but leaving it at S3.

But Now I have artifacts.  Lots of them.  ANd many of them scroll in windows.  
I've got white ones, blue ones, and black ones.  Forcing the redraw of a 
window helps somewhat, but these things are kind extreme--there's thousands of 
them.


rick


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Re: qic-02

1997-11-20 Thread Mike Schmitz admin0


On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

> Mike Schmitz admin0 wrote:
> > 
> > I am trying to set up a mountain qic-02 drive with debian. The default
> > kernel seems to be compiled with qic-02 support, and comes up with a blurb
> > on bootup about finding a tpqic device. I am not sure what device to use.
> 
> Take a look at the FTape howto. It should tell you everything you 
> need to know.
>

The Ftape howto explicitly says it does _not_ cover qic-02 tapes.

Mike 


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where is domainname from?

1997-11-20 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
arca:~$ dpkg -S /bin/domainname 
dpkg: /bin/domainname not found.

It must be a recent file because:
arca:~$ ldd /bin/domainname 
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

Andreas Arcangeli


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Re: Configuring Pine

1997-11-20 Thread Daniel Martin
On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Johann Spies wrote:
> 
> > If you look at the header of this message, you will see that where the
> > other messages shows the sender of the message, this one shows "To:
> > Debian-poslys .".  
> > 
> > How do I change that?  I am using Pine and smail.
> > 

First off, only you see things that way; the rest of us don't.
What you're seeing is just a feature of Pine - by default, the fourth
field in an index listing is the sender of a message if it isn't you, or
"To: Recipient name" if it is you.  Frankly, I think that this makes a lot
more sense than always showing the sender of the message, especially when
browsing your "sent-mail" folder.  But if you really must have things this
way, go into the pine configuration (Main menu->Setup->Config) and change
the index-format value to:
STATUS MSGNO DATE FROM(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%)

I will repeat that in all likelihood it is better not to make this change,
and that the difference between your mail and others' mail only is showing
up in pine's index viewer; the rest of us see nothing different about your
messages.

DANIEL MARTIN



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Re: [Q] defrag

1997-11-20 Thread Christian Leutloff
"Peter Iannarelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Try using ex2defrag (I am assuming you are using a linux native FS)

Have you used this tool? Is it working for you? Has it crashed
(itself, the system)? Where should I'm be careful??

Thanks
 Christian

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How do I refresh a Linux SCSI bus?

1997-11-20 Thread Timm Gleason
I would like to know if there is a way to refresh the SCSI bus under
Linux.

I know that on a Win95 box, if you plug an un-powered SCSI device into
the external SCSI port, power up the device, and refresh the system
from the Device Manager the system find new SCSI devices. I have done
this with my JAZ drive many, many times. All of the SCSI cards we use
are auto terminating, but I have yet to find a way to do this under
Linux.

I refuse to believe that there is something that a Microslash product
can do that Linux can't.

Thanks

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Re: Configuring Pine

1997-11-20 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Johann Spies wrote:

> If you look at the header of this message, you will see that where the
> other messages shows the sender of the message, this one shows "To:
> Debian-poslys .".  
> 
> How do I change that?  I am using Pine and smail.
> 
I probably don't understand your question, because my answer is, "You type
that field in yourself!".

So since I obviously didn't understand the question, here is the header I
recieved from you. What part of this header do you wish to change?


>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 20 15:47:51 1997
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:33:44 +0200 (SAT)
From: Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian-poslys 
Subject: Configuring Pine
Resent-Date: 20 Nov 1997 16:49:06 -
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;

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qic-02

1997-11-20 Thread Mike Schmitz admin0

I am trying to set up a mountain qic-02 drive with debian. The default
kernel seems to be compiled with qic-02 support, and comes up with a blurb
on bootup about finding a tpqic device. I am not sure what device to use.

TIA

Mike


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Re: Best partition distibution for new install.

1997-11-20 Thread Bill Leach
I would not suggest worrying about using logical partitions in Linux.  
Though I don't really know, I suspect that there might be a little more 
overhead in accessing them (at least for mounting) but even if there is 
some for an aready mounted partition, it is my experience that you won't 
"see" the difference.

I personally know that I have had at least 3 primary and 4 logical 
partitions per drive.  It seems to me that I have had more than 4 
logical partitions on one drive but memory being what it is (mine that 
is), I can not be certain.

As to having both a stable and unstable Debian Linux system on your 
machine at one time...  I have had as many as five different Linux 
systems on one machine at the same time (two Red Hat, two Debian, one 
Unifix) plus DOS and OS2.  No problem (though getting DOS and OS2 
installed under such circumstances can be a serious pain!)

Sharing directories...  While I am sure that there are many opinions 
about this, mine is that it is fine to share /tmp and /swap.  Sharing 
/home is, at least in my opinion, some what dangerous.  Many 
configuration files will exist in the users' directories and you may 
find yourself with incompatible versions.  I don't necessarily see this 
a a big problem, just one that will 'bite you' at the most unexpected 
times.  Also, if you want to play around with things like mail deliver 
systems, having a common /home might cause you to break your mail on all 
systems.

I see /usr/local as a different matter.  Right now, the libc5/libc6 
"problem" with Linux could cause you problems if you have a 
/usr/local/bin, usr/local/lib, etc. but otherwise I think it should be 
"safe".

On previous configurations, I always shared /usr/src but with a debian 
system, I think even that can be problematical (a solution, I believe is 
to always install from only one of the systems -- but I have not tried 
that yet).

best,
-bill


robert havoc pennington wrote:
> How hard should I try to avoid logical partitions? What's the impact
> of using them?
> 
> I'm about to get a new mainboard and disk to replace my trusty
> 386sx, and I was hoping to use more than four partitions.
>
> Another question: I was thinking of installing both stable and
> unstable. They can be rescue partitions for one another, and if
> unstable does  weird things while I need to get some work done I
> can abandon ship and switch to stable. Also I can play with
> unstable without fear of destroying my only system. :)
>
> Anyway, I'm hoping to share /home, swap, and /tmp between the two
> systems. Are there any other directories I can share? Maybe
> /usr/local? Is this a good idea in general? Anything I should
> consider before trying it?



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Re: Best partition distibution for new install.

1997-11-20 Thread Lorens Kockum
On Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 10:17:22AM -0500,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, robert havoc pennington wrote:
> > 
> > How hard should I try to avoid logical partitions? What's the impact
> > of using them?

AFAIK, under Linux, none whatsoever.

> everything's lost. Splitting things up into separate partitions limits 
> your risk - most likely only one partition at a time will go, and 
> recovery is easier.

Very very true.

> With logical partitions, though, you don't have quite the same protection.
> A single error on the physical partition can hose all the logical
> partitions in it.

Not applicable ; a file system error occurs on a file system. I cannot see
how there could be an error in the physical partition that would affect all
the logical partitions contained therein (except for partition table loss,
of course, but that goes for logical and physical partitions, and recovery
is simple).

>  Then there's the performance question, which, I'm sorry to say, I'm not 
> too clear on. I always thought that the logical partitions were at least 
> physically separate within the partition, [...]

On an MS-DOS compatible file system, most definitely.

> But I've also heard that logical partitions can interleave with each 
> other, like fragmented disk files.

Calls to mind the (really excellent) AIX file system. Not (yet :-( )
applicable under Linux.

>  Well, I've used them before (*way* back when Linux only supported 16MB 
> swap partitions). I made a 32MB physical partition and split it into to 
> 16MB logical partitions. I never noticed any problems from that. 

I have some experience with partitions (otherwise I wouldn't have been so
categorical above).In short, Mess-DOG says you can have 4 main partitions in
the partition table. To circumvent that limit, one of these (called
"extended") can be sub-partitioned with a "logical" partition table
contained in the "extended" partition. The information contained in these
partition tables are, essentially, the beginning cylinder and the size of
the partition. There is therefore no possibility of interleaving partitions
without either further subdividing a partition (writing new device drivers
in the process), or completely leaving the MS-DOS partition system.

Linux, AFAIK, reads in the information, records the beginning and ending
sector of each partition, and that's it. I do not think that Linux, in
acessing the content of partitions, makes any difference whatsoever between
partitions in the primary partition table and the extended partition table
beyond that point.

> > Anyway, I'm hoping to share /home, swap, and /tmp between the two systems.

/home is a good idea.
I don't think /tmp is a good idea, because ISTR /tmp is used and must be
usable before beginning networking. I consider /tmp to be one of the
essential directories, along with /etc and /sbin. Of course, mounting
something on /tmp means that you could have written something before, since
the mount point is a directory ;-)

> > Are there any other directories I can share? Maybe /usr/local? Is this a 
> > good idea in general? Anything I should consider before trying it?
>
>  If you're going to be installing different versions of packages, you 
> should probably not share any more than the first three. Sharing /usr and 
> /usr/local would mean you'd have a mix of stable and unstable packages, 
> and unless you're careful about it, that could lead to lots of 
> problems.

Exactly.

If you seek to have the _same_ things on on a network (installing one copy
of an executable), it is a good idea. If you seek to have _different_
things (stable and unstable), it is a bad idea. I have no further experience
in this domain, but I imagine you could have a shared fs for things you want
on both, like /usr/local, and the things you want different in /usr.

HTH

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Diamond stealth 2500 & X setup

1997-11-20 Thread Rick Hawkins

My new video card has arrived, a diamond stealth video 2500.  I've tried to run 
XF86Setup, but am not getting anything usable.

I tell it which card, and for monitor have tried both the "can do 1280x1024 at 
60hx", and actually entering the ranges for my machine, 30-66 and 55-130.

It successfully starts the xserver, though it's a grey with black speckles, and 
the speckles stay when the dialogs for xvidtune come up.  After saving, i try 
to startx, but get a .xsession-errors of 

pv3439.vincent being added to access control list
pv2086.vincent being added to access control list
pv2087.vincent being added to access control list
pv2079.vincent being added to access control list
pv217a.vincent being added to access control list
pv21f2.vincent being added to access control list
eyry.econ being added to access control list
hawkins.econ being added to access control list
pv2102.vincent being added to access control list
[1] 228
[2] 229
xterm:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":0.0"
xterm:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":0.0"



and the scrollby messages are



XFree86 Version 3.3.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: August 4 1997
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
  newmmio, mmio_928, s3_generic
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) XKB: model: "pc101"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(**) XKB: options: "ctrl:nocaps"
(**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200,
   3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(**) S3: Graphics device ID: "Primary Card"
(**) S3: Monitor ID: "Primary Monitor"
(--) S3: Mode "512x384" needs vert refresh rate of 97.39 Hz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode "320x240" needs vert refresh rate of 120.13 Hz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode "320x200" needs vert refresh rate of 139.89 Hz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 64.71 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to 
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"

 *** None of the configured devices were detected.***


Fatal server error:
no screens found

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages

_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

These don't seem to be the same modes as xvidtune received.

However, if i put the old stealth vram card in, and run through the setup,
I get a configuration that works on it (but not the 2500). 

I reallly have no idea what to do at this point.

(hmm, and why isn't emacs wrapping my lines???)

rick


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New Mailing List: Development of H.323 video conferencing

1997-11-20 Thread Adam Heath
This list is for those who want to develop, and see developed, this
protocol, both for masquerading, and as a proxy.

Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "subscribe" in the
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good crack program

1997-11-20 Thread Paul
Hello everybody, is there a good crack program.  I can't seem to find
qcrack.  Can somebody tell me where to find qcrack.
thanks
Paul



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Re: Q: List Archive

1997-11-20 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
> 
> Is there an archive of the questions asked on this list anyplace?
> I've been trying to save all the digest mail, yet it is getting BIG
> fast.  I hate to re-ask a question someone may of asked a few
> weeks before.

See http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/

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Re: Configuring dftp to get hamm

1997-11-20 Thread Frere Roy
> As stated in the libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO:
> When you run dselect, select "access" from the menu and anser the questions as
> follows:
> 
> ftp site: ftp.debian.org
> debian directory: /debian
> dist. to get:
>  dists/unstable/main dists/unstable/non-free dists/unstable/contrib

Thanks, but I am not using dselect. I am trying to configure the 
.dftprc file for dftp

If anyone can help me with the configuration of this file inorder to 
get the hamm updtaes I would be grateful.

Best wishes, Frere Roy


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Configuring Pine

1997-11-20 Thread Johann Spies
If you look at the header of this message, you will see that where the
other messages shows the sender of the message, this one shows "To:
Debian-poslys .".  

How do I change that?  I am using Pine and smail.

Johann.


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Q: List Archive

1997-11-20 Thread Dean C. Sullinger
Is there an archive of the questions asked on this list anyplace?
I've been trying to save all the digest mail, yet it is getting BIG
fast.  I hate to re-ask a question someone may of asked a few
weeks before.

Any ideas?

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Re: pppd

1997-11-20 Thread Daniel Martin
On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Zach Wilkes wrote:

> okay.. I've gotten my chat script to dial and connect.. pppd gets my
> ip and gets the ip of the remote system.. my resolv.conf looks good
> (from what I can tell), hosts looks good according to the ppp-howto.. 
> but, after all this.. after I'm sure it should work great.. I get
> "network is unreachable" errors..   nslookup knows which nameservers
> it's looking for but it just cant reach them..  is there some special
> program I have to run in order for programs to use the ppp connection??
> 
>Zach

what does the output of the "/sbin/route" command say?  If it doesn't
include a line beginning with "default" and ending with "ppp0" then you
need to add the option "defaultroute" to your /etc/ppp.options_out.
(Assuming that you're using the supplied debian "pon" command to start
ppp)

For reference, my /etc/ppp.options_out contains:
bsdcomp 15 crtscts defaultroute noipdefault /dev/modem 38400 modem


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Re: netscape4_4.0-6.deb w/o libc6!

1997-11-20 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 10:29:38AM -0500, Brian K Servis wrote:
> Does anybody know were to find a netscape4_4.0-6.deb that does not depend
> on libc6, so that I can use it on a 1.3.1 system?  Why does it need to
> depend on libc6 anyway?

It looks like the installer package was built using "fakeroot", which causes
a spurious libc6 dependency for a libc5 package if the maintainer is
unweary.

> I could modify the control file but I don't know how to put the pieces
> back together once I have extracted them using ar and tar.  Any simple
> step on doing this would be helpful as well, without pointing me to the
> package maintainers documents.

As the dependency is wrong (there is nothing actually depending on libc6 in
the netscape installer package), you can safely tell dpkg to ignore it; 
something like dpkg --ignore-depends=libc6 -i netscape*deb ought to do the
trick.

HTH,
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ANNOUNCE: deb-view.el [was: using dpkg to "see" the contents of a package]

1997-11-20 Thread Rick Macdonald

I thought I'd mention my Emacs deb file browser since the MC capability
has been discussed recently.

In June 1996 I wrote a deb file browser for emacs.  I hope it will be 
made obsolete by the deity project but it may be of use to some people
until then.

There aren't any package install features, just smart browsing and the
ability to copy individual files out of the archive.

I never did get this into "contrib" or someplace so that it gets
included into the Debian distribution. Suggestions welcome.

Here is the original announcement, modified to mention that it also views
HTML files using w3.el.

--- snip ---

   Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 17:07:39 -0600
   From: Rick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Subject: deb-view.el: emacs tool for browsing deb files!

I've written a tool for emacs that allows one to browse deb files.
It's nice to peek at a package file and read the doc, man pages, install
scripts, file list, etc, without installing it first. You can even copy
files out of a deb archive if you want to!

Why emacs? Because most of the smarts to do this stuff was already in
emacs. I just gathered it together in a simple but clever way for Debian
users!  ;-)  Emacs users will recognize "tar-mode", the emacs feature
that that I'm exploiting.

Here's sort of what it looks like on the screen. To view any file, just
go to that line and press "v". If it's a man page file, press "N". Press 
"W" to view HTML. It doesn't matter is the file is compressed (.gz); it 
uncompresses automatically on the fly.

Press "c" to copy an individual file out of the archive!

===
Buffers Files Tools Search Operate Mark Immediate Help  
 
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 ./
 -rw-r--r--root/root441 control
 -rw-r--r--root/root 13 conffiles
 -rwxr-xr-xroot/root   1459 postinst
  
-C37 L2   Emacs: sudo_1.4.3-5.deb-INFO (Tar Narrow)--All---

 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 ./
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 etc/
 -r--r-root/root280 etc/sudoers
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 usr/
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 usr/bin/
 -rwxr-sr-xroot/root  41996 usr/bin/sudo
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 usr/man/
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 usr/man/man8/
 -rw-r--r--root/root   4782 usr/man/man8/sudo.8.gz
 -rw-r--r--root/root   3257 usr/man/man8/visudo.8.gz
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 usr/man/man5/
 -rw-r--r--root/root   5289 usr/man/man5/sudoers.5.gz
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 usr/sbin/
 -rwxr-xr-xroot/root  24596 usr/sbin/visudo
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 usr/doc/
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 usr/doc/copyright/
 -rw-r--r--root/root   1282 usr/doc/copyright/sudo
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 usr/doc/examples/
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 usr/doc/examples/sudo/
 -rw-r--r--root/root   2572 usr/doc/examples/sudo/sudoers
 drwxr-xr-xroot/root  0 usr/doc/sudo/
 -rw-r--r--root/root   2335 usr/doc/sudo/FAQ.gz
 -rw-r--r--root/root   2398 usr/doc/sudo/debian.OPTIONS.gz
 
--**-C37 L9   Emacs: sudo_1.4.3-5.deb-DATA (Tar narrow)--All---
===
 
The lisp file is about 300 lines long. I decided not to post it to the
list, for fear of annoying non-emacs users, so I've put it up on a web
server. Sorry, I don't have anonymous ftp for you. The file is about
13KB.

http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~macdonal/deb-view.el

If you can't get at it, I can email it to you.

Note that deb-view works for the current and past formats of the Debian
file format. As the deb file evolves, I hope I can continue to provide
this tool.

One thing that I'm missing is a way for future Debian newcomers to know
about this tool. Suggestions welcome.

I hope some of you find this useful!

...RickM...



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Re: Best partition distibution for new install.

1997-11-20 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, robert havoc pennington wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 19 Nov 1997,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
> >
> >  The second thing to think about is the PC's somewhat dated partition 
> > scheme. You can only have 4 physical partitions on a drive, but you can 
> > divide those partition into logical partitions. All things being equal, 
> > it's better to avoid logical partitions if you can. It's also simpler for 
> > you, the installer. :->
> > 
> 
> How hard should I try to avoid logical partitions? What's the impact
> of using them?

 Well, logical partitions reside inside physical partitions, obviously. 
(Forgive me if I go over some basics; other people may be reading this.)
The drive has a physical partition table at the start of the disk, which 
specifies where the partitions are, and has space for four entries.

 Then, inside a physical partition, you can put another partition table 
and make logical partitions. You further subdivide the physical partition 
into logical chunks.

 This does defeat one of the purposes of splitting things into 
partitions, though. If you put all your eggs in one basket by using one 
giant partition, and something screws up that partition, you are hosed - 
everything's lost. Splitting things up into separate partitions limits 
your risk - most likely only one partition at a time will go, and 
recovery is easier. With logical partitions, though, you don't have quite 
the same protection. A single error on the physical partition can hose
all the logical partitions in it.

 Then there's the performance question, which, I'm sorry to say, I'm not 
too clear on. I always thought that the logical partitions were at least 
physically separate within the partition, like so:

 [-][-][(logical 1)(logical 2)][-]
  phys. part. 1  phys. part. 2  phys. part. 3   phys. part. 4

 But I've also heard that logical partitions can interleave with each 
other, like fragmented disk files. If that's really the case, then the 
performance hit could be fairly substantial, and the risk of data loss in 
case of an error even greater.

 I'm curious now, and I'm going to investigate it. I'll let you know what 
I find. If someone reading this knows the answer, please let us know.

> I'm about to get a new mainboard and disk to replace my trusty 386sx,
> and I was hoping to use more than four partitions.

 Well, I've used them before (*way* back when Linux only supported 16MB 
swap partitions). I made a 32MB physical partition and split it into to 
16MB logical partitions. I never noticed any problems from that. 

> Another question: I was thinking of installing both stable and unstable.
> They can be rescue partitions for one another, and if unstable does 
> weird things while I need to get some work done I can abandon ship and
> switch to stable. Also I can play with unstable without fear of destroying
> my only system. :)

 Another benefit from using partitions. :->

> Anyway, I'm hoping to share /home, swap, and /tmp between the two systems.
> Are there any other directories I can share? Maybe /usr/local? Is this a 
> good idea in general? Anything I should consider before trying it?

 If you're going to be installing different versions of packages, you 
should probably not share any more than the first three. Sharing /usr and 
/usr/local would mean you'd have a mix of stable and unstable packages, 
and unless you're careful about it, that could lead to lots of 
problems.

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Re: [Q] defrag

1997-11-20 Thread Peter Iannarelli

-Original Message-
From: Vladislav Papayan x285 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' ; 'Peter
Iannarelli' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, November 20, 1997 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: [Q] defrag


>Thanks for the suggestion.
>
>Is a part of standard packages of I have to find it myself.
>Does it also mean that defrag is not for ext2fs filesystems?
>what is it for than?


defrag is for a minix file system
edefrag is for an extended file system ( current linux native)
xdefrag is for the xia file system


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RE: [Q] defrag

1997-11-20 Thread Vladislav Papayan x285
Thanks for the suggestion.

Is a part of standard packages of I have to find it myself.
Does it also mean that defrag is not for ext2fs filesystems?
what is it for than?


Vladislav

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>From:  Peter Iannarelli[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent:  Thursday, November 20, 1997 10:32 AM
>To:Vladislav Papayan  x285; debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject:   Re: [Q] defrag
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Vladislav Papayan x285 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' 
>Date: Thursday, November 20, 1997 10:18 AM
>Subject: [Q] defrag
>
>
>>
>>Hello,
>>I am trying to use 
>>defrag /dev/hdb1
>>
>>and get something like "bad magic number"
>>my HD (/dev/hdb1) is a 4.3 GB Maxtor.
>>the number of cylinders is greated than 1024.
>>On the bios level the HD is setup for LBA mode
>>(it is set to automatic by I think it resolves it
>>LBA).   Why would defrag have a problem with this disk?
>>
>Try using ex2defrag (I am assuming you are using a linux native FS)
>
>
>Peter
>
>


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ipppd

1997-11-20 Thread Iztok Umek
Hello!

Can someone provide me with working example of config files needed for
ipppd to work (unix to cisco with pap).

>From cisco side i figured out it authorizes itself (i mean linux from
which I call does make authorization), but then seems like unable to get
protocols trough. I only want ip not ipx.

Regards,
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help- ldconfig: warning

1997-11-20 Thread Udjat the BitMeister...

ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libolg.so.3 (No such file or 
directory), skipping

Anyone know what package libolg.so.3 comes from?


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Re: [Q] defrag

1997-11-20 Thread Peter Iannarelli

-Original Message-
From: Vladislav Papayan x285 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' 
Date: Thursday, November 20, 1997 10:18 AM
Subject: [Q] defrag


>
>Hello,
>I am trying to use 
>defrag /dev/hdb1
>
>and get something like "bad magic number"
>my HD (/dev/hdb1) is a 4.3 GB Maxtor.
>the number of cylinders is greated than 1024.
>On the bios level the HD is setup for LBA mode
>(it is set to automatic by I think it resolves it
>LBA).   Why would defrag have a problem with this disk?
>
Try using ex2defrag (I am assuming you are using a linux native FS)


Peter


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netscape4_4.0-6.deb w/o libc6!

1997-11-20 Thread Brian K Servis
Does anybody know were to find a netscape4_4.0-6.deb that does not
depend on libc6, so that I can use it on a 1.3.1 system?  Why does it
need to depend on libc6 anyway?

I could modify the control file but I don't know how to put the
pieces back together once I have extracted them using ar and tar.
Any simple step on doing this would be helpful as well, without
pointing me to the package maintainers documents.

Thanks,
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Re: backup deselections?

1997-11-20 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, David S. Zelinsky wrote:

> I want to back up my choices in deselect on a floppy, so I can later do a
> clean install of the whole system, and install all the same packages without
> having to go through the selection process again.
> 
> What's the right way to do this?

dpkg --get-selections > selections  # on current
dkpg --set-selections < selections  # on new

Brandon

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[Q] defrag

1997-11-20 Thread Vladislav Papayan x285

Hello,
I am trying to use 
defrag /dev/hdb1

and get something like "bad magic number"
my HD (/dev/hdb1) is a 4.3 GB Maxtor.
the number of cylinders is greated than 1024.
On the bios level the HD is setup for LBA mode
(it is set to automatic by I think it resolves it
LBA).   Why would defrag have a problem with this disk?




>Vladislav


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backup deselections?

1997-11-20 Thread David S. Zelinsky
I want to back up my choices in deselect on a floppy, so I can later do a
clean install of the whole system, and install all the same packages without
having to go through the selection process again.

What's the right way to do this?

Do I just need the `status' file?  It contains my selections, but also
information about what is currently installed.  Will things get messed up if I
use this file in a future installation, when those packages are not in fact
installed yet?

Thanks.

-David

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pppd

1997-11-20 Thread Zach Wilkes
okay.. I've gotten my chat script to dial and connect.. pppd gets my
ip and gets the ip of the remote system.. my resolv.conf looks good
(from what I can tell), hosts looks good according to the ppp-howto.. 
but, after all this.. after I'm sure it should work great.. I get
"network is unreachable" errors..   nslookup knows which nameservers
it's looking for but it just cant reach them..  is there some special
program I have to run in order for programs to use the ppp connection??

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problems with booting from PCMCIA SCSI drive

1997-11-20 Thread Vankeerberghen Pieter
I've a desktop system with an external SCSI disk which carries my Debian
GNU/Linux V1.3 system. Now, when I want to connect this drive to my
portable using an inserted SlimSCSI 1460 card, I've to make an initrd
image (on my desktop), which I've read in the PCMCIA HOWTO (dated Oct 9,
1997) since the kernel does not include the PCMCIA drivers. When I run
the script pcinitrd to create an initrd image, I get a message that the
systty could not be found. Since I suppose that it is not included in
Debian, I removed it from the pcinitrd script and gor the initrd image. 
When I then use Loadlin to boot from the portable using an zImage and
the (gzipped) initrd, I get the following messages: 

ext2fs warning: mounting unchecked fs
VFS: mounted root
VFS: cannot open root device 08:02
Kernel panic: VFS:unable to mount root fs on 08:02.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Pieter

Re: laptop problems

1997-11-20 Thread David S. Zelinsky
Thanks for your help, Bruce.

(In reference to an earlier thread: how can anyone complain about a project
leader who actually answers users' questions?)

Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 > > But with some experimenting, I discovered that telling the BIOS to
 > > disable both primary and secondary cache, I was able to get Linux to
 > > load, and all went well after that.
 > 
 > Turn it back on now, and see if it boots from hard disk with the cache on.

Nope.

 > ... This causes the kernel to die just after it starts because it reads
 > incorrect data out of the cache. If this is what is happening try the
 > "tecra" kernel, or build your own kernel as a "zImage" rather than
 > "bzImage".

I built a zImage -- that worked!

 > > 3) What affect does not disabling shadow RAM?  ...
 > 
 > ... Second, if you have shadow RAM mapped over I/O devices (many
 > motherboards will do that if you ask them to), accesses to those devices
 > will not work.

So if all the devices seem to work, does that mean I won't have any problem
with the shadow RAM?  Is there some way to be sure about this?

 > > Another curiosity: When I went to run fips to shrink the win95 partition,
 > > I found, instead of just one large partition, there were four partitions:
 > > The first was almost the full 2 GB, the second and third were empty (zero
 > > length), and the fourth was 4 MB, but of "unknown" type. ...
 > 
 > That 4MB partition could be a boot manager partition, especially if you've
 > tried NT or have installed System Commander or its ilk. It might also be
 > for saving the system state when you suspend, but I'd expect it to be
 > bigger if that's the case. My Toshiba saves the state by continuing RAM
 > power at all times and does not use a disk partition for this.

The machine came with Windows95; I didn't load any special boot manager.  I
also thought it might be for the system state, but I also decided it was too
small (16 MB -> 4 MB partition??), and there's a Win95 file in hda1 that's for
that purpose.  I guess I'll try deleting it and see what happens!

Thanks again.

-David

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Re: change IP

1997-11-20 Thread Kevin Traas
>that stuff already work  but i must start that stuff step by step , first i
>run IRCD and then eggdrop , i wanna that all stuff running  in start up ..,
>how can i make it,..??


Add a script file to the /etc/rc.boot directory as follows:

/etc/rc.boot/irc-startup:
---snip here---
#!/bin/sh
/path/to/ircd
/path/to/eggdrop
---snip here

Just a few additional comments:

 - make sure the "#!/bin/sh" is the *first* line in the file.
- adjust the path entries as required... obviously.
- "chmod 755 /etc/rc.boot/irc-startup" to make it executable

Good luck,
Kevin Traas


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Re: smail

1997-11-20 Thread Brian Mays
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Gerald Livingston wrote:

> If I can find a sucker -- errr -- nice person to host for me, would
> it be possible for me to set up a MX on someone's system such as
> force-1.xxx.com and have mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] be
> held on the host system until it is somehow recognized that I am
> online so SMTP delivery to smail can occur?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remco Blaakmeer) writes:

> One solution that pops up on me is to get a pop3 account on the host
> and use fetchmail. But you can most likely do that with your isp,
> too. I think you should not let people send e-mail directly to your
> box if you are not on a permanent connection with a computer
> switched on 24/7. fetchmail can run as a daemon and check mail at
> regular intervals. I think this would be an interesting option in
> this case. I am sure the 'go online' script can also start fetchmail
> for different users [1] and the 'go offline' script can kill all
> fetchmail daemons running.

> [1] you probably want to use something like
> ( sleep 10 ; su username -c 'fetchmail --daemon 900 --all --syslog' ) &
> in the script, assuming the script runs as root. Note that I have
> not tested this. I have absolutely no experience with Linux on
> dialup lines, but I do use fetchmail.

Laptop users using a PCMCIA network card can add the following to
their /etc/pcmcia/network.opts script to have their system
automatically poll for mail while the computer is connected to the
network via the PCMCIA card:

# Extra stuff to do after setting up the interface
start_fn () {
fetchmail --fetchmailrc /etc/fetchmailrc --syslog --daemon 300;
return; }
# Extra stuff to do before shutting down the interface
stop_fn () {
fetchmail --quit;
return; }

Point-to-point protocol (PPP) users (whether or not they use a PCMCIA
modem) can place

fetchmail --fetchmailrc /etc/fetchmailrc --syslog --daemon 300;

in the /etc/ppp/ip-up script and 

fetchmail --quit;

in the /etc/ppp/ip-down to achieve the same effect.

Place all of the fetchmail polling instructions (see the fetchmail(1)
man page for more details) for all of your users with POP or IMAP
accounts in /etc/fetchmailrc.  Since it contains passwords, make sure
that this file is not world readable, that is use `chmod 600
/etc/fetchmailrc' to change its permisions.

Brian


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Unidentified subject!

1997-11-20 Thread Vankeerberghen Pieter
I've a desktop system with an external SCSI disk which carries my Debian
GNU/Linux V1.3 system. Now, when I want to connect this drive to my
portable using an inserted SlimSCSI 1460 card, I've to make an initrd
image (on my desktop), which I've read in the PCMCIA HOWTO (dated Oct 9,
1997) since the kernel does not include the PCMCIA drivers. When I run
the script pcinitrd to create an initrd image, I get a message that the
systty could not be found. Since I suppose that it is not included in
Debian, I removed it from the pcinitrd script and gor the initrd image. 
When I then use Loadlin to boot from the portable using an zImage and
the (gzipped) initrd, I get the following messages: 

ext2fs warning: mounting unchecked fs
VFS: mounted root
VFS: cannot open root device 08:02
Kernel panic: VFS:unable to mount root fs on 08:02.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Pieter

Re: smail

1997-11-20 Thread Steve Kostecke
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[snip]
> use fetchmail. But you can most likely do that with your isp, too. I think
> you should not let people send e-mail directly to your box if you are not
> on a permanent connection with a computer switched on 24/7. fetchmail can

Another reason to not accept incoming SMTP connections is to control UCE.
I was looking through my logs and found that I had been spammed directly
from a couple of mailhosts.  Considering that I'm on a dial-up connection
that's a pretty good trick.  So now my linux box won't accept any in-
coming SMTP connections and uses fetchmail to poll two POP3 mail boxes
(me & my SO) at my ISP.
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Re: Having Trouble Printing From Netscape

1997-11-20 Thread Oliver Elphick
"J. T. Lawson" wrote:
  >I am a computer teacher in a public school system. I am having
  >difficulty printing from Netscape 3.0 on some sites that play music
  >and/or include java script. I have emptied the caches.Please advise.

Advice is difficult with so little information.  

1. What command is run by the print dialog in Netscape?

2. If it is lpr, does the job arrive on the spool queue?

3. Does anything print? is it garbled? or what?

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Re: debian 2.0

1997-11-20 Thread Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues
 > On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Timothy Phan wrote:
 > > 
 > >   I think this question has been asked before and I'd like to bring
 > >   it up again since it been a while.
 > > 
 > >   Is there a set day for the Debian 2.0 (or the next release after 1.3.1)?

If your machine isn't a critical production one and you have some time to
spare, then don't wait... Upgrade! 

But prepare a rescue disk just in case. I ended up with a broken bash,
couldn't login anymore **. Fixing it was fun, btw.

hamm is very nice, it's where all the latest packages go, not to mention
the big move to libc6. So far, I only had problems with rusersd & rwalld
looping...

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   rescue disk, copying sh to my hd as sh_resc (/bin/sh is normally a link to
   bash) and changing root's shell to sh_resc, then rebooting normally. Maybe
   it would be a good thing to have an uid 0 maintenance account with a simple
   static shell... Then again, maybe not.





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Re: ati 3d xpression + pc2tv

1997-11-20 Thread Iztok Umek
On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Benoit Joly wrote:

>   i want to setup a ati 3d xpression + pc2tv (4 ram) on xfree v3.3.
> 
> i tried with XF86Setup but didnt start the server.
> 
> what should i do??

you must use latest XFree (not sure if it is in debian tho).

Regards,
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Having Trouble Printing From Netscape

1997-11-20 Thread J. T. Lawson
I am a computer teacher in a public school system. I am having
difficulty printing from Netscape 3.0 on some sites that play music
and/or include java script. I have emptied the caches.Please advise.
Thanks,
 J. T. Lawson
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TIS Fwtk Servers and dpkg-ftp

1997-11-20 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

Hi,

I was bored (insomnia actually) so I decided to sit down and figure out
how to hack dpkg-ftp to run over the TIS-FWTK FTP proxy we have here.

The chat for the firewall looks like
   user 
   pass 
   user @
   pass 
  

It's an authenticated [EMAIL PROTECTED] type firewall. I know a few other ppl on
the list are behind such a beast. The trick to allow dselect to run is
amazingly simple, in /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp edit the files install,
setup and update.

In each of the three files look for the line  
 if(!$ftp->login($::username, $pass)) { print $ftp->message()

Directly after that place these two lines:
 $ftp->_USER("[EMAIL PROTECTED]");
 $ftp->_PASS("[EMAIL PROTECTED]");

Replace with the ftp server you wish to use and your email addy. Go into
dselect and configure the ftp method. Set the server to be your firewall
address and user + pass to be your firewall authentication. Be sure to
disable passive support (n)

Plug in the proper info for the rest and tada, dpkg over an evil sort of
firewall.

Oh, if you happen to be behind a simpler [EMAIL PROTECTED] firewall without
authentication then you can bypass it transparently by setting the
environment variable FTP_FIREWALL to the address of your firewall, set
dpkg-ftp as if you don't have a firewall.

Hopefully g'night,
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Emacs and PCMCIA cards

1997-11-20 Thread Bill Moran
Hi

Whenever I have PCMCIA cards running on my (Toshiba) laptop it is impossible
to open emacs from the console (rather than in an X environment). Emacs
just hangs and the only way to stop it is to kill the process
from another virtual console. Recently, after using my modem,
and then removing the modem card I tried to run emacs and received
teh following message:
eth0:trigger-send() called with the transmitter busy.
Why should emacs interact in this way with (presumably)
the card manager and how do I overcome the problem.

Thanks

Bill


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Re: Proposal on PPP

1997-11-20 Thread Chuma Agbodike
You realize that xisp is an X windows application. And the proposal is to have a
PPP
frontend that will fit in the base floppy.

Chuma

Bruce Perens wrote:

> All that is necessary is for the xisp package to install a file in
> /usr/lib/menu, that will hook it into the menu system of the Debian
> "menu" package.
>
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ati 3d xpression + pc2tv

1997-11-20 Thread Benoit Joly
hi, 

i want to setup a ati 3d xpression + pc2tv (4 ram) on xfree v3.3.

i tried with XF86Setup but didnt start the server.

what should i do??

if anyone setup this card, maybe u can send me your config


Thanks

Benoit
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xvmount_3.6-5 uploaded to master

1997-11-20 Thread Volker Ossenkopf
I have uploaded version 3.6-5 of my xvmount package to master.

It fixes the security hole (#15029) which could enable normal 
users to change the permissions of /etc/mtab by means of xvmount.

Here comes the signed changes file:
 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Format: 1.5
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:00:00 +0200
Source: xvmount
Binary: xvmount
Architecture: source i386
Version: 3.6-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Volker Ossenkopf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: 
 xvmount- Small graphical utility for mounting devices by users.
Changes: 
 xvmount (3.6-5) unstable; urgency=high
 .
   * Removed security hole concerning the permissions of /etc/mtab (#15029)
Files: 
 851397fb0da017851c7b08b0b0eb7a46 538 x11 extra xvmount_3.6-5.dsc
 dd52e7855c672bb807924e6100c4e7fa 4318 x11 extra xvmount_3.6-5.diff.gz
 7e1f5614ee8fa0e31ccabdaf970ef63d 10214 x11 extra xvmount_3.6-5_i386.deb

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 2.6.3i
Charset: noconv

iQBVAwUBNHPuomEcOYUGBVv5AQF7HQH/eLtdYnegeSlxGTHdaX4H2jnn7Jik4jYv
8zzEkxj67m7M05cTDC9WmzrjE92W4rXLrGGq/q9XdAN/LvuiFPsSlw==
=AQSD
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

Best wishes -- Volker

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Re: cannot install 3c509

1997-11-20 Thread A. M. Varon
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, zhang xu wrote:

> the adapter is 3c509b-TPO ,It works properly in
> windwos95 on PnP mode.

Btw, remove the plug n' play config from your adapter.

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Re: cannot install 3c509

1997-11-20 Thread Chi Wong
set the irq=5 and the io=300

At 11:30 PM 11/19/97 -0800, zhang xu wrote:
>hi
>I'm a beginner in linux.
>I have installed debain linux.in "Configure device"
>option,the system cannot find the adapter.
>what can I do?
>
>the adapter is 3c509b-TPO ,It works properly in
>windwos95 on PnP mode.
>
>zhangxu
>
>
>
>
>
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cannot install 3c509

1997-11-20 Thread zhang xu
hi
I'm a beginner in linux.
I have installed debain linux.in "Configure device"
option,the system cannot find the adapter.
what can I do?

the adapter is 3c509b-TPO ,It works properly in
windwos95 on PnP mode.

zhangxu





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Re: change IP

1997-11-20 Thread teguh
At 12:51 AM 11/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
>You will have to edit the file /etc/init.d/networks... you will
>have to change IPADDR, and maybe BROADCAST and GATEWAY, 

thanks for helping me about change the ip addres ..it's work,..! -:)

and  i have 2 program in my debian linux :
 
- IRCD 
- eggdrop 

that stuff already work  but i must start that stuff step by step , first i
run IRCD and then eggdrop , i wanna that all stuff running  in start up ..,
how can i make it,..??  

please , give some advice...

thanks

sincerly

'teguh.
 


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Linux for Amiga

1997-11-20 Thread Torsten Jonas
Hello, 
here are Torsten from Hamburg, Germany. I have Interest on a Linux Package
for the Amiga 1200.
Can vou help me?
Thanks
Torsten


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Re: using dpkg to "see" the contents of a package

1997-11-20 Thread Lindsay Allen

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Gertjan Klein wrote:

> 
> Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  > IIRC you add this snippet to /etc/mc/mc.ext
> 
>  > regex/\.deb$
>  > Open=%cd deb:%d/%p/
>  > View=%view{ascii} dpkg-deb -c %f
> 
>   Yes, that works!  Great!  It is really nice to be able to browse
> inside the packages on the CD-ROM, especially the /usr/doc parts of
> them.
> 
>  > Better yet is to get an unofficial later version.
> 
>   Why?  My current version works for me - are the later versions so much
> better?
> 

Yes.  3.5.17-1 has real troubles - in particular it is slow and the screen
flashes black at times.  The later versions run smoothly and have a little
more in the way of functions - e.g. background transfers.

BTW, The unoffical mc_4.1.11-0.1_i386.deb is libc5 and thus bo compatible.

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Re: hello?

1997-11-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 05:43:00PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> The list doesn't mind if you subscribe more than once using the same
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> thing to do when it gets quiet.
> 
> The server will unsubscribe you when it gets too many bounces from your
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Or when your email address provider (see the OTHER address in my
signature) briefly disappears from the DNS and claims ignorance
when you mail them, after guessing their support address
because it sure as hell isn't on their web page. Argh. And not
for free either. And since my master mail was forwarding their,
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Re: laptop problems

1997-11-20 Thread Bruce Perens
From: "David S. Zelinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> But with some experimenting, I
> discovered that telling the BIOS to disable both primary and secondary cache,
> I was able to get Linux to load, and all went well after that.

Turn it back on now, and see if it boots from hard disk with the cache on.

> 1) Does telling the BIOS to disable L1 and L2 cache have any affect on Linux?

Yes. The settings persist after BIOS hands control over to the boot loader.

> 2) Why was this preventing Linux from loading?

There are two problems that pop up. One has to do with some floppies
failing with the cache enabled and is poorly understood. The other
(more likely) has to do with many systems not invalidating the cache
contents when the A20 gate is asserted to change the system from real
to protected mode. This causes the kernel to die just after it starts
because it reads incorrect data out of the cache. If this is what is
happening try the "tecra" kernel, or build your own kernel as a
"zImage" rather than "bzImage".

> 3) What affect does not disabling shadow RAM?  Does it just decrease the RAM
> available to Linux (/proc/meminfo does seem to report about 1.5 MB less than
> 16 MB I'm supposed to have)?  Or can it cause more serious problems.

First, it's wasted because Linux doesn't spend much time executing code
in the ROMS that are shadowed. It might spend a little time in APM and some
32-bit BIOS functions, but not a significant amount. Second, if you have
shadow RAM mapped over I/O devices (many motherboards will do that if you
ask them to), accesses to those devices will not work. That RAM count does
not contain the memory that is below 1MB.

> 4) Is there any way to disable shadow RAM, if the BIOS setup doesn't offer it
> as an option?  Is there any way to reclaim the lost RAM?

Only if you can get technical information on the chipset. A service manual
is the best bet, otherwise see what you can wheedle out of technical service.

> Another curiosity:  When I went to run fips to shrink the win95 partition, I
> found, instead of just one large partition, there were four partitions:  The
> first was almost the full 2 GB, the second and third were empty (zero length),
> and the fourth was 4 MB, but of "unknown" type.  I was a little worried that
> some win95 feature was using that last partition, so I was afraid to delete
> it.  Luckily I was able to shrink the first partition and put Linux swap and
> native partitions as the second and third, and leave the fourth alone.

That 4MB partition could be a boot manager partition, especially if you've
tried NT or have installed System Commander or its ilk. It might also be for
saving the system state when you suspend, but I'd expect it to be bigger
if that's the case. My Toshiba saves the state by continuing RAM power at
all times and does not use a disk partition for this.

Thanks

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Re: kernel message : Possible flooding ???

1997-11-20 Thread Rik Johns
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>Hi,
>In the file /var/log/kern.log, I have the message like that :
>
>Nov 18 05:08:49 poynting last message repeated 2 times
>Nov 18 05:10:50 poynting kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. 
Sending
>cookies.
>Nov 18 05:10:59 poynting kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. 
Sending
>cookies.
>Nov 18 05:10:59 poynting kernel: validated probe(3103d184, 5a4ccb84,
>33166, 20100, 1878646017)
>
>This message is repeated a lot of time. What is the meaning of this
>message? This week, a user (we actively search him) use our server to
>attack and crash a other server on the net. Today, our own server 
crash.
>We think that the crash was a strike back. So, the kernel message about 
a
>possible flooding could be related to our hacker war?
>
>Dany Dionne
>Physics Department
>Laval University
>Canada
>
Dany, sure looks like a syn-flood attack, take a look in tcpdump and
See if it gave a legit address. BTW: is this on the Irc???..Rik...
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Re: change IP

1997-11-20 Thread dpk
You will have to edit the file /etc/init.d/networks... you will
have to change IPADDR, and maybe BROADCAST and GATEWAY, depending
if you change subnets.  If you do, make sure you edit /etc/networks
also.

Once you make those changes, as root run /etc/init.d/networks
to test your new settings.  You shouldn't need to reboot.

Thanks,
Dennis
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On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> hi..netterss..
> 
> i'm new user in debian linux 
> i wanna change ip address  in my debian server...
> how can i change that,.??
> please give an advise ...
> 
> thanks
> 
> sincerly
> 
> 'teguh
>  
> 
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change IP

1997-11-20 Thread teguh
hi..netterss..

i'm new user in debian linux 
i wanna change ip address  in my debian server...
how can i change that,.??
please give an advise ...

thanks

sincerly

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Re: fetchmail and friends

1997-11-20 Thread Dima
> David Stern wrote:
>Hi,
>
>My fetchmail, sendmail, and procmail configuration has passed initial
>testing for use with ppp and imap (my isp recomends imap over pop3),
>though it's not been automated or tweaked as of yet.
>
>I have one important issue to resolve: when I view my email in exmh (57
>messages), I found that all my messages were concatenated into a single
>message. 

I'd say you're using mbox (all messages in a single file) format whereas
exmh wants mh folder format (each folder is a directory, messages are in
individual files named 1, 2 etc).

You have to set up mh maildir (usually ~/Mail) and folder(s) in there
(default is inbox: ~/Mail/inbox), and tell procmail to deliver there, eg.
:0w:~/Mail/inbox/.mh_sequences.LCK
* ^TO.*
| /usr/lib/mh/rcvstore +inbox

see procmail manpages and docs for details.

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kernel message : Possible flooding ???

1997-11-20 Thread Dany Dionne
Hi,
In the file /var/log/kern.log, I have the message like that :

Nov 18 05:08:49 poynting last message repeated 2 times
Nov 18 05:10:50 poynting kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. Sending
cookies.
Nov 18 05:10:59 poynting kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. Sending
cookies.
Nov 18 05:10:59 poynting kernel: validated probe(3103d184, 5a4ccb84,
33166, 20100, 1878646017)

This message is repeated a lot of time. What is the meaning of this
message? This week, a user (we actively search him) use our server to
attack and crash a other server on the net. Today, our own server crash.
We think that the crash was a strike back. So, the kernel message about a
possible flooding could be related to our hacker war?

Dany Dionne
Physics Department
Laval University
Canada


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Re: Installation SONY CD-ROM

1997-11-20 Thread Claude Sisson
darren morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:I have the Debian Linux edition CDRom from the boot! magazine (Nov.
'97)
:and I constructed my disks using the DOS rawrite-2 tool, and everything
is
:fine there.  However, since I'm a newbie, my question is regarding in
the
:CD Rom installation.  I have a SONY CDU31-A, and the prompt comes up
during
:installation asking me for a "command line argument".  What?!?!  What
is
:it? (I have the port addresses in my Sound Blaster 16 manual, if that's
:what its talking about).

I too am having the same frustrations that Darren is with the disk from
Boot magazine. I have been trying to ignore the "device drivers" part of
the installation, but when I log onto the system, the system cannot find
my CD-ROM to do dselect (I'm not sure, but I don't think it is finding
my floppy drive, either).

Questions:
(1) Is there on-line documentation explaining in greater detail what
needs to be done during the "install device drivers" exercise (it is not
intuitive, at least to me)? The documentation that I have found on the
disk and on-line so far just slides over this part of the installation.
(2) If the answer to (1) is "No," then:
(a) Do I need to load a device driver during installation and issue
commands to it so that my floppy drive will be recognized (a standard
3.5", 1.44 MB drive configured as drive a:)?
(b) What should I do during the installation to get the system to
recognize the CD-ROM attached to my Soundblaster 16 PnP (Win95 tells me
it's a Matshita CR-581-M attached to a standard IDE/ESDI controller; the
IRQ is 10; I have no idea what the port number is; all the jumpers have
been removed).
(c) Will I need to perform a "mount" command after I log onto the
system as root?
(3) At the moment, I am not sweating about my printer, mouse, or modem.
I am presuming that once I get onto the CD, that I should be able to fix
those things. Is this a good presumption?

Right now, I have a skeletal system that I can play with to learn Unix
commands (a valuable exercise in itself), but I would really like to get
at all the riches waiting for me on the CD-ROM.

Many thanks for your help!


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Frustration with JAVA/AWT

1997-11-20 Thread Mike Patterson

Ok, I installed kaffe java. Good enough. Then I found I needed to grab biss for
AWT... simple enough, right?

Problem is, it still can't find awt. Here's the setup:

>echo $CLASSPATH
/usr/lib/jdk/classes.zip:.:/home/src/biss/lib/biss/awt

>ls -l /home/src/biss/lib/biss/awt/Awt.class 
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 8705 Mar  9  1997 
/home/src/biss/lib/biss/awt/Awt.class

>./Client.class 

java/lang/UnsatisfiedLinkError: no awt in shared library path
at java/lang/Throwable.(0x80d9a61)
at java/lang/Error.(0x80d99d7)
at java/lang/LinkageError.(0x80d996f)
at java/lang/UnsatisfiedLinkError.(0x80d9907)
at java/lang/Runtime.loadLibrary(0x80d81c8)
at java/lang/System.loadLibrary(0x80d698c)
at sun/awt/motif/MToolkit.(0x80d6883)



Anyone see something obvious I'm missing?


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Re: debian 2.0

1997-11-20 Thread Simon's Mailing List Account
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Timothy Phan wrote:
> 
>   I think this question has been asked before and I'd like to bring
>   it up again since it been a while.
> 
>   Is there a set day for the Debian 2.0 (or the next release after 1.3.1)?

When it's ready. Not before.

>   Where can I find the status of this beside posting this mail frequently!

Please don't keep posting. If you want to find the status, actually
read the mailing list. The progress on the libc6 conversion is a pretty
good indicator of how close we are to being able to freeze stuff for 2.0.

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answers come out?'  I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of
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fetchmail and friends

1997-11-20 Thread David Stern
Hi,

My fetchmail, sendmail, and procmail configuration has passed initial
testing for use with ppp and imap (my isp recomends imap over pop3),
though it's not been automated or tweaked as of yet.

I have one important issue to resolve: when I view my email in exmh (57
messages), I found that all my messages were concatenated into a single
message. 

I'm new to fetchmail, procmail, sendmail, and exmh, so it's not clear to
me where to look for an adjustment.  I first suspected exmh, but found
nothing relevant in the docs.  Then I suspected fetchmail, ... you get
the idea.  

Does anyone have a clue for me?  I'd sure appreciate it.

David Stern




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laptop problems

1997-11-20 Thread David S. Zelinsky
I just installed bo on a Fujitsu Lifebook 535Tx.  It's working, but there are
a couple of glitches I'd like to solve.

Initially, I couldn't get Linux to load from the boot floppy (or anywhere
else).  At first I thought this had to do with shadow RAM, since the
installation instructions say to disable shadow RAM, but the Lifebook's BIOS
setup doesn't provide any way to do that.  But with some experimenting, I
discovered that telling the BIOS to disable both primary and secondary cache,
I was able to get Linux to load, and all went well after that.

Now, even though this seems to work, I have some questions:

1) Does telling the BIOS to disable L1 and L2 cache have any affect on Linux?
I would guess not, since Linux doesn't tend to pay any attention to the BIOS,
and since I haven't yet noticed any performance degradation (Win95, on the
other hand, is REALLY slow with this setting).

2) Why was this preventing Linux from loading?

3) What affect does not disabling shadow RAM?  Does it just decrease the RAM
available to Linux (/proc/meminfo does seem to report about 1.5 MB less than
16 MB I'm supposed to have)?  Or can it cause more serious problems.

4) Is there any way to disable shadow RAM, if the BIOS setup doesn't offer it
as an option?  Is there any way to reclaim the lost RAM?


Another curiosity:  When I went to run fips to shrink the win95 partition, I
found, instead of just one large partition, there were four partitions:  The
first was almost the full 2 GB, the second and third were empty (zero length),
and the fourth was 4 MB, but of "unknown" type.  I was a little worried that
some win95 feature was using that last partition, so I was afraid to delete
it.  Luckily I was able to shrink the first partition and put Linux swap and
native partitions as the second and third, and leave the fourth alone.

I can live with the loss of 4 MB of my hard disk if I have to, but I'd like to
know why it's there.  Does anyone know of anything might be using it?  If it's
something in win95, is there anyway to find out?

I had thought this 4th partition might be used by the "Save to Disk" option
for the suspend function.  But win95 claims it uses a file in the main
partition (I think).

Thanks.

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Re: Best partition distibution for new install.

1997-11-20 Thread robert havoc pennington

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
>
>  The second thing to think about is the PC's somewhat dated partition 
> scheme. You can only have 4 physical partitions on a drive, but you can 
> divide those partition into logical partitions. All things being equal, 
> it's better to avoid logical partitions if you can. It's also simpler for 
> you, the installer. :->
> 

How hard should I try to avoid logical partitions? What's the impact
of using them?

I'm about to get a new mainboard and disk to replace my trusty 386sx,
and I was hoping to use more than four partitions.

Another question: I was thinking of installing both stable and unstable.
They can be rescue partitions for one another, and if unstable does 
weird things while I need to get some work done I can abandon ship and
switch to stable. Also I can play with unstable without fear of destroying
my only system. :)

Anyway, I'm hoping to share /home, swap, and /tmp between the two systems.
Are there any other directories I can share? Maybe /usr/local? Is this a 
good idea in general? Anything I should consider before trying it?

Thanks,
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Re: hello?

1997-11-20 Thread dpk
Ahh... no wonder, I receive postmaster mail for egr.msu.edu and
some clown had a 60 meg email bounce back to our site and
filled our /var/mail! 

Thanks!
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Re: hardware again

1997-11-20 Thread Bruce Perens
Maybe nobody has booted those two computers. If you are mail-ordering
them you are going to have a problem. If you can get them at a store
go to the store with a Debian boot floppy and the "tecra" floppy, and see
if either boots. Odds are, they will.

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Re: Installation SONY CD-ROM

1997-11-20 Thread Bruce Perens

CDU31A/CDU33A Driver Info
-

Information on the Sony CDU31A/CDU33A CDROM driver for the Linux
kernel.

   Corey Minyard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  
   Colossians 3:17

Crude Table of Contents
---

  Setting Up the Hardware
  Configuring the Kernel
  Configuring as a Module
  Driver Special Features

  
This device driver handles Sony CDU31A/CDU33A CDROM drives and
provides a complete block-level interface as well as an ioctl()
interface as specified in include/linux/cdrom.h).  With this
interface, CDROMs can be accessed, standard audio CDs can be played
back normally, and CD audio information can be read off the drive.

Note that this will only work for CDU31A/CDU33A drives.  Some vendors
market their drives as CDU31A compatible.  They lie.  Their drives are
really CDU31A hardware interface compatible (they can plug into the
same card).  They are not software compatible.

Setting Up the Hardware
---

The CDU31A driver in unable to safely tell if an interface card is
present that it can use because the interface card does not announce
its presence in any way besides placing 4 I/O locations in memory.  It
used to just probe memory and attempt commands, but Linus wisely asked
me to remove that because it could really screw up other hardware in
the system.

Because of this, you must tell the kernel where the drive interface
is, what interrupts are used, and possibly if you are on a PAS-16
soundcard.

If you have the Sony CDU31A/CDU33A drive interface card, the following
diagram will help you set it up.  If You have another card, you are on
your own.  You need to make sure that the I/O address and interrupt is
not used by another card in the system.  You will need to know the I/O
address and interrupt you have set.  Note that use of interrupts is
highly recommended, if possible, it really cuts down on CPU used.
Unfortunately, most soundcards do not support interrupts for their
CDROM interfaces.  By default, the Sony interface card comes with
interrupts disabled.
   
+--+-+--+
|  JP1 |  34 Pin Conn|  |
|  JP2 +-+  |
|  JP3  |
|  JP4  |
|   +--+
|   |  +-+
|   |  | |  External
|   |  | |  Connector
|   |  | |
|   |  +-+
|   +--+
|   |
|  ++
|  |
+--+
   
  JP1 sets the Base Address, using the following settings:
   
Address Pin 1   Pin 2
--- -   -
0x320   Short   Short
0x330   Short   Open
0x340   OpenShort
0x360   OpenOpen
   
  JP2 and JP3 configure the DMA channel; they must be set the same.
   
DMA Pin 1   Pin 2   Pin 3
--- -   -   -
1   On  Off On
2   Off On  Off
3   Off Off On
   
  JP4 Configures the IRQ:
   
IRQ Pin 1   Pin 2   Pin 3   Pin 4
--- -   -   -   -
3   Off Off On  Off
4   Off Off*Off On
5   On  Off Off Off
6   Off On  Off Off
   
  The documentation states to set this for interrupt
  4, but I think that is a mistake.

Note that if you have another interface card, you will need to look at
the documentation to find the I/O base address.  This is specified to
the SLCD.SYS driver for DOS with the /B: parameter, so you can look at
you DOS driver setup to find the address, if necessary.

Configuring the Kernel
--

You must tell the kernel where the drive is at boot time.  This can be
done at the Linux boot prompt, by using LILO, or by using Bootlin.
Note that this is no substitute for HOWTOs and LILO documentation, if
you are confused please read those for info on bootline con

Re: hello?

1997-11-20 Thread Bruce Perens
The list doesn't mind if you subscribe more than once using the same
address - it'll only send one message to each address. That's the best
thing to do when it gets quiet.

The server will unsubscribe you when it gets too many bounces from your
system. This happens when your disk quota runs out, etc.

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Re: video cards

1997-11-20 Thread Lee Bradshaw
"Paul Miller wrote:"
> I'm looking for a PCI video card for Linux, which will allow me to do
> at least 1024x768 in 24bit mode.. and of course as fast as possible. I
> would like to spend around $300..
>
> Here are a few cards I've looked at: Diamond Fire GL 1000 Pro (8 meg)
> - $250 Matrox Millennium II (8 meg) - $310 ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8 meg) -
> $250 ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8 meg) - $300
>
> Right now I'm thinking about the Matrox Millennium II (8 meg).. Are
> there any other cards which have better proformence? and how well are
> these cards supported under Linux/X?

I have a Millenium II with 8MB.  It supports 1600x1200 24bits (packed
pixel) under win95.  Unfortunately, I've only gotten it running 1280x1024
16bits under linux.  I downloaded the latest XF86_SVGA from xfree and
moved the debian one to XF86_SVGA.old.  This server has support for
configuring the Millenium II, but it still has some bugs.  I sometimes
see garbage in the far left column of xterm windows.  The team writing
the driver expects new versions of XF86_SVGA and the Millenium II to
be one of the highest performing xfree combinations.  All the X EDA
applications I run for work (run on solaris, displayed on linux) work
fine in 16bit mode, but I've heard that not everything will.

Check www.pricewatch.com for the best prices.  I saw the OEM version for
$249.

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hardware again

1997-11-20 Thread Pablo Ares Gastesi
Hello,
this is a second post about a question I sent some time ago. I
did not get any answer, but may be there is some one new in the list...

I would like to know if some one has installed/booted LINUX in a
Digital Prioris 6000 HX or Dell PowerEdge 4200 machines. I know LINUX
boots in PowerEdge 4100, but do not know if the 4200 is much different
from 4100.

I am planing to buy one of these two machines to become the mail
server of my department. Since I live in India, I cannot test the
machine, and I would not like to find myself with Windows-NT (sorry,
sorry!) in it, not able to put LINUX. And this is a lot of money for
this country. 

Any answer to me or to the list would be very much appreciated.

Thanks, Pablo.

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Re: 100Mb networking

1997-11-20 Thread RedHat Linux User

yes, I have a smc-ultra also that I put back in when I could not get the
100M to work.  I have some machines running redhat as well, on the redhat
machine I can just replace the driver and it does work.  I will have to
put redhat on this machine if I can't get it to work.



On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

> On 19 Nov 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> 
> > RedHat Linux User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I have a news machine that I am trying to put a KNE100 kingston network
> > > card into. however when i try the card is recodnized and ifconfig works
> > > but all the traffic goes to the lo device.  How do I fix this ?
> > > 
> > > I tryed the tulip.c 0.79
> > 
> > Have you set up routing?  See the manpage for `route'.
> 
> The route should be set up in /etc/init.d/network. I think this file very
> much explains itself. For a system with one ethernet card only, you only
> need to fill in the right numbers.
> 
> Remco
> 
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Re: smail

1997-11-20 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Daniel Martin wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Gerald Livingston wrote:
> 
> > 
> >   If I can find a sucker -- errr -- nice person to host for me, would 
> > it be possible for me to set up a MX on someone's system such as 
> > force-1.xxx.com and have mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] be 
> > held on the host system until it is somehow recognized that I am 
> > online so SMTP delivery to smail can occur?
> 
> Hmmm this could be tricky - you'd need some way to notify the nice
> person with the DNS machine that you'd gone offline - otherwise, how would
> they be able to know that they were delivering mail to your machine, and
> not to some other box that had dialed up recently and taken the DNS
> address you used to have?  A bit of a tricky problem, I think - the only
> solutions I can think of are a bit messy.

One solution that pops up on me is to get a pop3 account on the host and
use fetchmail. But you can most likely do that with your isp, too. I think
you should not let people send e-mail directly to your box if you are not
on a permanent connection with a computer switched on 24/7. fetchmail can
run as a daemon and check mail at regular intervals. I think this would be
an interesting option in this case. I am sure the 'go online' script can
also start fetchmail for different users [1] and the 'go offline' script
can kill all fetchmail daemons running.

Remco

[1] you probably want to use something like
( sleep 10 ; su username -c 'fetchmail --daemon 900 --all --syslog' ) &
in the script, assuming the script runs as root. Note that I have not
tested this. I have absolutely no experience with Linux on dialup lines,
but I do use fetchmail.


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Re: 100Mb networking

1997-11-20 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On 19 Nov 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote:

> RedHat Linux User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have a news machine that I am trying to put a KNE100 kingston network
> > card into. however when i try the card is recodnized and ifconfig works
> > but all the traffic goes to the lo device.  How do I fix this ?
> > 
> > I tryed the tulip.c 0.79
> 
> Have you set up routing?  See the manpage for `route'.

The route should be set up in /etc/init.d/network. I think this file very
much explains itself. For a system with one ethernet card only, you only
need to fill in the right numbers.

Remco


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Re: debian 2.0

1997-11-20 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Timothy Phan wrote:

> Hi Y'all,
> 
>   I think this question has been asked before and I'd like to bring
>   it up again since it been a while.
> 
>   Is there a set day for the Debian 2.0 (or the next release after 1.3.1)?

No. Debian doesn't set release dates in advance. If a serious bug is
discovered in a package that is supposed to be in 2.0, the release can be
delayed until the bug is fixed, depending on how serious the bug is.

>   Where can I find the status of this beside posting this mail frequently!

Please do not post this question frequently. I think the release will be
announced on the list (will it? I think it should be announced on at least
this list since many people only read this list and the release of a new
Debian version is quite important to most of them).

Remco


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Re: how to reduce colors used by netscape?

1997-11-20 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Paul Seelig wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, E Papantoniou wrote:
> 
> > I have read that to correct the problem I must reduce the colors used by
> > netscape...does anybody know in which file are these defined?
> > 
> Put this into "~/.Xresources":
> 
>   ! For Netscape 3.04:
>   ! Reducing color usage number of colors:
>   Netscape*maxImageColors:64 
> 
> And while we are at it:
> 
>   ! Turning off the  tag:
>   Netscape*blinkingEnabled:   False
>   ! Turning off loading of background images:
>   Netscape*documentColorsHavePriority:False

Where could I find a list of all such "resources" that Netscape
understands?

Remco


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Re: unstable. How?

1997-11-20 Thread Will Lowe
You also need to upgrade to the latest version of dpkg-ftp from unstable.
 
Will


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