Re: Debian on CD.

1997-12-31 Thread paulwade
The person who was responsible for fulfilling orders was 'deleted' from my
organization about 3 weeks ago.

Upon reading these comments today, I went to that person's house and
demanded the return of any and all documents, records, product, etc.
immediately. This resulted in the return of 2 boxes which included CD
mailers which were adressed but never sent, unopened mail (I actually 
found a check dated 03 SEP 97 from an overseas customer), and printouts
from email inquiries which were apparently not answered.

I will be going through this and trying to see that these orders are all
filled right away. If people have questions or concerns, they should be
sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and they will be answered.

Tim, your comments are inappropriate. Let me assure you that there is no
fraud at all here. The number of website hits that www.debian.org
generates is pathetically small. In other words, I am investing in the
future by offering this product line. I had tried to unload some of the
work in order to have more time for software development but it looks like
I will have to get personally involved in the production and fulfillment
again.

Paul Wade


On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Tim Sailer wrote:

 Alexander Stavitsky wrote:
  
  On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Cleto Pescia wrote:
   For now, the only thing I can tell you for sure is that you should *NOT*
   buy the Debian CDs from Greenbush Technologies Corp. (www.greenbush.com).
   
   I ordered the official CD set in September by filling out their
   secure on-line form, they charged my credit card (at least that is what
   I've seen on my bank's reports), but never shipped anything... I sent them
   e-mail twice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), politely asking them what was going on,
   but never got an answer. Maybe I should have sent them a fax as well, but
   you really expect a company with an online ordering system to have some
   way to read its e-mail...
  
  I had exactly the same problem with Greenbush. They don't seem to answer
  on polite emails, but they/he do react on the impolite ones.
  I've subscribed to four monthly CD's in April and so far have only
  received 2. If you can write a really nasty email they will probably send
  something.
 
 Also, gettingg the Postmaster General involved for Mail Fraud or
 Wire Fraud (charging for something not shipped of charging before
 an item is shipped) is a sure way to get a response too.
 
 Tim


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compile error: as86 command not found!

1997-12-31 Thread Dennis Drapeau
I got the following output when trying to compile a new kernel on my hamm
system:

.
.
.
make[1]:Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/lib'
ld
-m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x10 -e stext arch/i386/kernel/head.o init/main.o
init/version.o \
arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o
kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o net/network.a \

fs/filesystems.a \
drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a
drivers/net/net.a drivers/pci/pci.a \

/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/lib/lib.a
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/lib/lib.a
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/lib/lib.a -o vmlinux
nm vmlinux |
grep -v '\(compiled\)\|\(\.o$\)\|\( a \)' | sort  System.map
make[1]:
Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/boot'
gcc
-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/-E -D__ELF__ -traditional
-DSVGA_MODE=NORMAL_VGA bootsect.S -o bootsect.s 
as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o
bootsect.s
make[1]: as86: Command not found
make[1]: *** [bootsect.o] Error
127
make[1]: Leaving
Directory`/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/boot'
make: *** [zImage]
Error 2


Can anyone let me know what is going on?

thanks 

dennis


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Debian on a Compaq Armada 1500 series laptop?

1997-12-31 Thread Rob Duncan
Can anyone report success with installing and using Debian on a Compaq
Armada 1500 series laptop?

Thanks,

Rob.


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Re: barking dogs and i18n

1997-12-31 Thread Kai Grossjohann
 On 31 Dec 1997, Kai Grossjohann said:

  Kai Franklin is writing pop3-biff.el.  Of course, it is only appropriate
  Kai to have this thing bark.  Now, barking in English is easy: woof!
  Kai will do just fine.  But nowadays, some i18n is called for.  So I told
  Kai him that wau! (or wuff!) would be good German barks.

  Kai But what about other ones?  Surely people on this list can help?

  Kai I think Klingon and Esperanto as well as maybe Swahili are very
  Kai important in order not to alienate a significant user population!

  Kai PS: Franklin, I hope you didn't mind me posting here.

Woops!  I shouldn't post at 1:30 in the morning, it is bad for my
health...

I hit the wrong row in selecting the mailing list.  Silly me.  Thus,
let me explain that *.el files are for Emacs and Franklin is writing
an Emacs extension.  Now that you realize that I've hit the wrong list
you might want to ignore my question.  If, on the other hand, you
happen to have Klingon as your first language, I sure wouldn't mind if
you responded anyway!  8-)

Sorry again.
kai
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barking dogs and i18n

1997-12-31 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Franklin is writing pop3-biff.el.  Of course, it is only appropriate
to have this thing bark.  Now, barking in English is easy: woof!
will do just fine.  But nowadays, some i18n is called for.  So I told
him that wau! (or wuff!) would be good German barks.

But what about other ones?  Surely people on this list can help?

I think Klingon and Esperanto as well as maybe Swahili are very
important in order not to alienate a significant user population!

PS: Franklin, I hope you didn't mind me posting here.

tia,
kai
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Re: laser printers and linux

1997-12-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 11:54:55PM -0800, G. Crimp@freenet.victoria.bc.ca 
wrote:
 Seems to be a lot of questions about printers in the last week.  I might as 
 well get in mine.  NEC SuperScript 860.  Will it work or not.  I bought it
 because a magazine review said it worked with OS's other than Windows (and
 cheap and fast and generally highly recommended).  I now have this sinking
 feeling that it won't.  The manual says that it differs from other printers
 in that it is driven directly by the CPU of your computer...  This sounds
 suspiciously like what the Hardware-HOWTO says to avoid -- equipment that
 has had its brains taken out and uses Windows driven software to do the job.

Although others have said you have GDI, if the magazine says it does
work on other OSs, it's possible that is has a GDI mode but supports
non-GDI printing as well. I believe my HP 5L has something like this;
they have both a host-based driver and a PCL driver for Windows.
I've never plugged the printer into anything except a Linux box though.


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HELP: dpkg

1997-12-31 Thread Albert Hurd
I tried dpkg -i (and cp) on xisp_2_1-1(1).deb and got the following
message:

   syntax error near unexpected token `xisp_2_1-1(1'

What gives and how can I install the package. Any help very welcome for
this newbie.

Albert Hurd


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Sparcs

1997-12-31 Thread Ian Keith Setford

Hi-

I am looking to buy a used Sparc and I know that there are important
differences between older models.  What are the models to stay away from
and which ones are ideal?  How do I tell them apart?

Appreciate any information or direction!

Thanks in advance,

Ian

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|  |   |  | |   \   |  | |  | |  |  \  \  / /
|  |   |  | |  |\ \ |  | |  | |  |   \  \/ /
|  |__ |  | |  | \ \|  | |  |_|  |  / / \ \
|__|__.|__| |__|  \| |___| /_/   \_\
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Re: A new computer...and some questions...

1997-12-31 Thread Frank Barknecht
Shaleh hat gesagt: // Shaleh wrote:

 Most AGP are not supported in Xfree86.  
But some are. Check out http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html;
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Re: compile error: as86 command not found!

1997-12-31 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 I got the following output when trying to compile a new kernel on my hamm
 system:
 make[1]: as86: Command not found
 make[1]: *** [bootsect.o] Error

Install bin86 package.

Alex Y.

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misc X problems

1997-12-31 Thread Aaron Brick
I have just gotten the SVGA X server working on my machine, and I have a
couple of problems with it.

One is that the desktop is much bigger than the screen area, and the
screen moves around when the mnouse approaches the edges. Does this have
to do with switching around hte resolutions in the XF86Config file? 

The other is that the screen only draws every other column. Thus all the
text in the terminal windows is pretty much illegible, plus no colors look
good only being drawn halfway. This I have no idea about, but it seems
like it could possibly be related to the above problem. Do any of you have
ideas? Thanks.

Aaron Brick.


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Re: laser printers and linux

1997-12-31 Thread G. Crimp
On Tue, Dec 30, 1997 at 01:40:57PM +, David Stern wrote:
 
 Unfortunately, you have a windoze GDI printer, which means some 
 hardware functions are emulated in software to more closely integrate 
 with (be controlled by) windoze.  The one I saw said so right on the 
 box.
 

I was afraid of that.  I saw the windoze logo on the box but didn't look
closely enough.  I've seen a ton of those that said compatible, which 
really meant, roughly speaking, made for the intel architecture.  Since
the article I read said the 860 worked with other OS's I never got close
enough to see that the windoze logo didn't say compatible, but designed
for.[sob]  Thank goodness I can take it back.

So how about the HP 6L.  I've heard that it will work quite handily by
emulating a 4L.  Does anyone know what features of the 6L I'll be losing
by having it emulate a 4L ?


Thanks,

Gerald Crimp


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Re: HELP: dpkg

1997-12-31 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Albert Hurd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I tried dpkg -i (and cp) on xisp_2_1-1(1).deb and got the following
 message:
 
syntax error near unexpected token `xisp_2_1-1(1'
 
 What gives and how can I install the package. Any help very welcome for
 this newbie.
 
I believe this is because the shell wants to interpret an expression
in parenthesis.

You have downloaded this file which windows, right?

1. get a new and bugfree version of xisp from ftp://134.95.210.54/pub
2. install it with dpkg -i . If you have problems with the filename,
try dpkg -i xisp*.deb

Ciao,
Martin 


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xvidtune

1997-12-31 Thread Aaron Walker
When I run xvidtune, it works for the time being.  When I exit X then
launch X again it's back to what it was before I ran xvidtune.  How can
I get xvidtune to save the changes it makes?


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Re: xvidtune

1997-12-31 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 When I run xvidtune, it works for the time being.  When I exit X then
 launch X again it's back to what it was before I ran xvidtune.  How can
 I get xvidtune to save the changes it makes?

No other way then to click on show and then paste the modeline shown
into your XF86Config file manually.

Alex Y.

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Re: Missing include file while configuring kernell 2.0.32 ??

1997-12-31 Thread Joey Hess
Marc Fleureck wrote:
 A find reveals string.h in /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386. But 
 stdlib.h for instance is not on my disk ??  Very strange !!

Install libc5-dev (or libc6-dev if you're using debian unstable).

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Network Card Problems

1997-12-31 Thread Philip and David Dutton Dutton
I seem to be having trouble getting my computer to regocnize my network
card. I have an SMC-Ultra (jumper on card set to soft configuration) which
in setup at first does not initialize, but afterwards setup tells me that it
installed the driver successfully. WHen I boot up, it gives me the messages: 
   
   SIOCSIFADDR: No Such Device
   SIOCSIFNETMASK: No Such Device
   SIOCSIFDADDR: No Such Device
   SIOCADDRT: Network is Unreachable

I configured the network in setup also, however, I have no netmask or
broadcast address. Should I use the values that the setup program gives me
or should I put 0.0.0.0? Is there anything else I can try? I know it's not
the hardware or the IP address becasue it works fine in my other computer.


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Re: ATA-3 drives

1997-12-31 Thread Britton

I am looking at buying another system myself.  I have never heard of ATA
though.  Is it something I should want, or just more hype?  Is it likely
to be supported under Linux 2.2? 

On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 george bonser wrote,
 
 
   1) Ultra ATA 33 (UATA) hard drives
 
  No linux supports ATA33 as far as I know. If you can put the drives in
  EIDE mode (as most will), Linux will work fine.
 
 There is a patch (I forget where, but it's out there) for the kernel to 
 support them.  I tried it, but my maxtor8.4 won't handle this mode at 83mhz, 
 only 66.  So I set the mode back down, and went back to my old kernel.
 
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Re: laser printers and linux

1997-12-31 Thread David Stern
On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:53:50 PST, G. Crimp wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 30, 1997 at 01:40:57PM +, David Stern wrote:
  
  Unfortunately, you have a windoze GDI printer, which means some 
  hardware functions are emulated in software to more closely integrate 
  with (be controlled by) windoze.  The one I saw said so right on the 
  box.
  
 
 I was afraid of that.  I saw the windoze logo on the box but didn't look
 closely enough.  I've seen a ton of those that said compatible, which 
 really meant, roughly speaking, made for the intel architecture.  Since
 the article I read said the 860 worked with other OS's I never got close
 enough to see that the windoze logo didn't say compatible, but designed
 for.[sob]  Thank goodness I can take it back.

Like Hamish said, some go both ways (GDI and host based), so the symbol 
on the box isn't proof positive of exclusive GDI, however in this case 
I confirmed with NEC that it was.  It is a nice printer, otherwise.

 So how about the HP 6L.  I've heard that it will work quite handily by
 emulating a 4L.  Does anyone know what features of the 6L I'll be losing
 by having it emulate a 4L ?

I've heard the 6L works, but for the price I'm not impressed.  It's OK, 
and it saves on space, and it's somewhat fast, but the reviews I read 
said it had paper handling problems and the output didn't measure up to 
what I would expect.  (It kinda looks funny, too! :-)

That's why I mentioned the Brother, which I'd heard is a pretty good 
buy.  I spent a little more on a 6MP.  But, if your budget is limited, 
check out that linux hardware group on usenet (comp.os.linux.hardware) 
.  I think you'll be glad you did.  I saw a number of active threads 
regarding different printers last time I was there.

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Re: ATA-3 drives

1997-12-31 Thread Aaron Walker
For ATA drives, you need a special ISA card.  My HD (Maxtor 3.5) supports it, 
but
I haven't bought the add-on card yet.  It supposed to be superFAST (I think 
almost
as fast as SCSI).  I think the card is around $70 from CompUSA.

Britton wrote:

 I am looking at buying another system myself.  I have never heard of ATA
 though.  Is it something I should want, or just more hype?  Is it likely
 to be supported under Linux 2.2?

 On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  george bonser wrote,
 
 
1) Ultra ATA 33 (UATA) hard drives
 
   No linux supports ATA33 as far as I know. If you can put the drives in
   EIDE mode (as most will), Linux will work fine.
 
  There is a patch (I forget where, but it's out there) for the kernel to
  support them.  I tried it, but my maxtor8.4 won't handle this mode at 83mhz,
  only 66.  So I set the mode back down, and went back to my old kernel.
 
  rick
 
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Debian.

1997-12-31 Thread Timothy Hospedales
Does anyone have an idea of how long it will be until the next release of
debian?

Thanx,
Timothy


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Re: ATA-3 drives

1997-12-31 Thread Aaron Walker
As it says on my HD box:

Buffer Size:
256KB

Average Seek time:
10MS

Data Transfer Rate:
33.0 MB/Sec
(Ultra DMA-Mode 2)

Ultra DMA is also known as Ultra ATA.  It has twice the speed of IDE drives.
George Bonser wrote:

 ATA is, I do not think the problem  I think ATA is short for ATAPI.
 What is the problem, I think, is the DMA33 whatever that is.

 On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Britton wrote:

 
  I am looking at buying another system myself.  I have never heard of ATA
  though.  Is it something I should want, or just more hype?  Is it likely
  to be supported under Linux 2.2?
 
  On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   george bonser wrote,
  
  
 1) Ultra ATA 33 (UATA) hard drives
  
No linux supports ATA33 as far as I know. If you can put the drives in
EIDE mode (as most will), Linux will work fine.
  
   There is a patch (I forget where, but it's out there) for the kernel to
   support them.  I tried it, but my maxtor8.4 won't handle this mode at 
   83mhz,
   only 66.  So I set the mode back down, and went back to my old kernel.
  
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Where's libpthread0_0.7-10?

1997-12-31 Thread Steve Mayer
Hello,

  Anyone else try to install the new libc6 package from ftp.debian.org?  It
requires libpthread0_0.7-10.  The latest version of libpthread0 that I see
(both on my system and on ftp.debian.org) is 0.6-1.  Is this another package
that is stuck in the incoming directory on master?  It seems to me that if a
package is dependant on other new packages, it should be held until the
entire bunch can be delivered at the same time. Anyone else's thoughts on
this matter?

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Re: Debian on CD.

1997-12-31 Thread Tim Sailer
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 Tim, your comments are inappropriate. Let me assure you that there is no
 fraud at all here. The number of website hits that www.debian.org

I never claimed there was. I was just stating that it was a way to get
a response. Obviously, it worked.

Tim

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Re: Debian on CD.

1997-12-31 Thread Jason and Heather
On Wed, Dec 31, 1997 at 12:12:32AM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tim, your comments are inappropriate. Let me assure you that 
  there is no fraud at all here. 
 
 I never claimed there was. I was just stating that it was a way to 
 get a response. Obviously, it worked.

Sounds to me like there _was_ fraud. Perhaps not on the part of 
Greenbush's principles, but definitely on the part of the (ex) 
employee. Of course, to the customer who sent money and received 
nothing, there's no difference.

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Re: laser printers and linux

1997-12-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Dec 30, 1997 at 07:58:51PM +, David Stern wrote:
 On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:53:50 PST, G. Crimp wrote:
  So how about the HP 6L.  I've heard that it will work quite handily by
  emulating a 4L.  Does anyone know what features of the 6L I'll be losing
  by having it emulate a 4L ?
 
 I've heard the 6L works, but for the price I'm not impressed.  It's OK, 
 and it saves on space, and it's somewhat fast, but the reviews I read 
 said it had paper handling problems and the output didn't measure up to 
 what I would expect.  (It kinda looks funny, too! :-)
 
 That's why I mentioned the Brother, which I'd heard is a pretty good 
 buy.  I spent a little more on a 6MP.  But, if your budget is limited, 

I have a 5L; it was a tossup betwen the Brother HL 730 (I think that's
the number) and the 5L. The Brother seemed to offer straight through
paper path (while the 5L curls paper reasonably badly), and 6ppm,
but 600dpi only with GDI mode. The 5L was a bit more brand name, 4ppm,
600dpi on PCL, and a bit more expensive. Since then a couple of friends
have bought the Brother and been quite happy; I probably would have been
better off with that. (They don't use Linux though, but I think the Brother
is PCL too).

The 6L has 6ppm now which closes the gap a bit more.


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Re: ATA-3 drives

1997-12-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Dec 30, 1997 at 07:57:10PM -0800, George Bonser wrote:
 ATA is, I do not think the problem  I think ATA is short for ATAPI.

Not exactly; ATAPI is ATA Peripheral Interface, with ATA
being the AT Attachment IIRC, with AT being Advanced Technology
(cough) :-)

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Re: SLRN problem (SOLVED, I hope)

1997-12-31 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Tue, Dec 30, 1997 at 03:57:09PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:

 Ah, I think I remember this problem now. What version of slrn are you using?
 I notive this in the changelog:
 
 slrn (0.9.4.2-4) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * Change umask to 022 in ip-up script for slrnpull, reset when done.
 
 I think if you upgrade to this version or higher, your problem will be
 fixed. Alternatively, edit /etc/ppp/ip-up, and add umask 022 to it before it
 calls slrnpull.

Slrn Version: 0.9.3.2 (Mar  4 1997 16:33:24)

I edited ip-up and we'll see what happens when I connect to post this.

 You may need to fix the permissions of the directories it's already made by
 hand (or delete them and let it recreate them).

I fixed the permissions and am now able to read news. Thanks!

And, as far as upgrading, I'm sticking with bo and libc5, so I'm pretty
paranoid about anything from hamm.

Cheers,
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Re: NT vs. Linux: is zero-administration a reality? (was: Question.)

1997-12-31 Thread Mr. Whipple
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 [...] NT make simple
 things simpler. In the process, by cramming everything into a neat
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Amen, brother!  Truer words were never spoken.

Well, maybe now and then, but not often. :)

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gimp and libXm.so.2

1997-12-31 Thread G. Crimp
I am in the process of building a Debian 1.3 (kernel 2.0.30) system.  I 
installed the dynamically linked version of gimp and the lesstif package.
When i try to run gimp I get

$ gimp
gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'
$

I've done a find on libXm.so.2, libXm, and libX with no results.  I've also
searched through the various library packages listed by dselect to try and
find something that resembled this or mentioned it in its description.  No
luck.

Can anyone tell me what I have to load to get this library, and how to set
it up if it isn't a Debian package ?

TIA,

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Re: laser printers and linux

1997-12-31 Thread G. Crimp
On Tue, Dec 30, 1997 at 07:58:51PM +, David Stern wrote:
 
 Like Hamish said, some go both ways (GDI and host based), so the symbol 
 on the box isn't proof positive of exclusive GDI, however in this case 
 I confirmed with NEC that it was.  It is a nice printer, otherwise.
 
  So how about the HP 6L.  I've heard that it will work quite handily by
  emulating a 4L.  Does anyone know what features of the 6L I'll be losing
  by having it emulate a 4L ?
 
 I've heard the 6L works, but for the price I'm not impressed.  It's OK, 
 and it saves on space, and it's somewhat fast, but the reviews I read 
 said it had paper handling problems and the output didn't measure up to 
 what I would expect.  (It kinda looks funny, too! :-)
 
 That's why I mentioned the Brother, which I'd heard is a pretty good 
 buy.  I spent a little more on a 6MP.  But, if your budget is limited, 
 check out that linux hardware group on usenet (comp.os.linux.hardware) 
 ..  I think you'll be glad you did.  I saw a number of active threads 
 regarding different printers last time I was there.
 

OK.  Guess I'd better get off to the newsgroups.  I was hoping I could
avoid that.  there is always so much trashy XXX and  stuff you have 
to download and sift through to get to the real on-topic posts.

Thanks everyone.  BTW, what does GDI mean ?

Ciao,

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Odd Mail Configuration

1997-12-31 Thread D. Taylor Singletary

Greetings. 
I am attempting something rather odd -- I don't know if it is feasible.

I am a cable modem user with @home and I have an IP of [not my real IP] 
123.456.789.0 . I have registered this IP as purplepullovers.ml.org with 
ml.org. The DNS resolves this right. I said, hey -- I want a new email 
address... how about [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So I set up smail and the what not, and have set my mail address as 
thus. 

I have now managed to get hotmail to send a message to my address but 
for me to reply to it, I get a message saying:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- User Unknown.

Any help?




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Re: laser printers and linux

1997-12-31 Thread David Stern
On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:25:25 PST, G. Crimp wrote:
 [..] 
 Thanks everyone.  BTW, what does GDI mean ?

:  Webopaedia Definition and Links
:  http://www.sandybay.com/pc-web/GDI_printer.htm
:
:  GDI printer 
:
:  A printer that has built-in support for Windows Graphical
:  Device Interface (GDI). GDI is used by most Windows
:  applications to display images on a monitor, so when printing
:  from a Windows application to a GDI printer, there is no need
:  to convert the output to another format such as PostScript or
:  PCL. 
:
:  GDI printers are sometimes called host-based printers
:  because they rely on the host computer to rasterize pages. 

GDI printers are as good as win-modems. :-)


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xdm -- Starting Multiple Servers

1997-12-31 Thread Paul Serice
I don't know if anyone else who uses xdm to manage multiple Servers
has run across the problem whereby starting all the servers
simultaneously can cause all sorts of problems, e.g., some of the
servers don't start because they are waiting to be told of an
available screen.

If you have solved the problem, I would be interested in your
solution.  My solution is to have xdm start the X servers one at a
time by using the SIGHUP signal.

They way I do it is to copy over /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers so that only
one server is listed.  Then I start xdm with the start-stop-daemon. 
Of course, xdm has no problem starting one server, and in about 10
seconds, the X server is up and running with xdm ready for more.

So, I oblige by copying over the etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file again, but
this time I add a second server to the list.  Then I send xdm the
SIGHUP signal via kill -SIGHUP `cat /var/run/xdm-pid`.  This tells
xdm to re-read its configuration files.  It does so, and finds that
it is now responsible for starting exactly one more server.  Of
course, xdm has no problem starting one server, and all is well.

I just repeat the process until all the servers are up and running.


Paul Serice


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Apache-Bug - Fix?!

1997-12-31 Thread Toens Bueker

Hi *,

when will there be a patched version of apache 1.2.*
available for bo?

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AU mirrors

1997-12-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Can any .AU users recommend any other debian mirrors in AU?
ftp.usyd.edu.au:/linux/debian was excellent but currently
contains only the indices subdirectory. Before that I found
www.unimelb.edu.au good but they ran out of disk space.
They recommend ftp.monash.edu.au but that has sunsite's
directory structure and I always find the sunsite-type 
places to be very out of date with debian.

ftp.debian.org.au points to ftp.debian.org.
ftp.au.debian.org currently has ping times of 3-4s due
to congestion at Telstra in Perth; in contrast I can get
to ftp.debian.org in 700ms.

archie.au is always horrendously out of date.

Unfortunately I can't afford to maintain a mirror myself
(am paying per megabyte for traffic).

Hamish


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Choosing network and graphic card for Linux.

1997-12-31 Thread Liran Zvibel
Hello!
I'm changing my ISP , and the new one works with direct connection
through a ethernet 10 base t card (and doesn't charge more for static IP).
I don't know which one to choose. Can you help? I have never installed
ethernet before so some referencing to how it works and general info
would be great.

BTW: My other option was to connect through an ISDN modem. Since I didn't
buy any ethernet card yet I can choose this option too, should I (and
please explain why). If it's better please recommend an ISDN modem.


BTW2: I don't have PCI, only ISA...

I want to replace my existing graphics card (Trident 8900CL) with a new
one that can do more then 256 colors. Can you recommend any (non PCI...)
card that it is still being sold? A short phone call to my hardware store
didn't help, since they don't sell this kind of cards any more.
 
TIA,

Liran Zvibel.



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Re: gimp and libXm.so.2

1997-12-31 Thread Oliver Elphick
G. Crimp wrote:
  I am in the process of building a Debian 1.3 (kernel 2.0.30) system.  I 
  installed the dynamically linked version of gimp and the lesstif package.
  When i try to run gimp I get
  
   $ gimp
   gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'
   $
  
  I've done a find on libXm.so.2, libXm, and libX with no results.  I've also
  searched through the various library packages listed by dselect to try and
  find something that resembled this or mentioned it in its description.  No
  luck.
  

lesstif provides libXm.so.0.  libXm.so.2 is from Motif.

I see that there is a package gimp-dmotif (which conflicts with gimp).  If that
is what you installed, it requires Motif.  Install gimp instead.

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(fwd) [gnu.misc.discuss] Re: Don't want to publish source code

1997-12-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Some light relief. Happy new year (soon).

Hamish

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Subject: Re: Don't want to publish source code
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Buddington)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss

[EMAIL PROTECTED], bequeathed this pearl of wisdom upon the blind
masses:

 So how is the pyramid scheme to make all source code GPL going
 then anyway?  Any statistics?

My GOD! They've taken over my ENTIRE COMPUTER! I can't find any
Microsoft programs on my hard drive at all! They've snuck an entire
system onto my computer, with source code, and got away before I could
pay them! Curses on that bad, bad Linus guy, and that evil, evil
Richard Stallman fellow! Damn all their fiendish cohorts!

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route add -net 127.0.0.0

1997-12-31 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hi,

does anyone know why on the 2.1.x kernels the command

route add -net 127.0.0.0

gives the error SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument and no route to the
127.0.0.0 network is added?

I remember I saw something regarding this somewhere but can't remember
what it was or where I saw it...

Thanks,

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compiling the kernel - as86 missing

1997-12-31 Thread Marc Fleureck
Hi,

The command as86 is missing to compile the kernel. It's not on my 
disk. Where can I find this command ?

Regards,
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libc6-2.0.5c - 2.0.6 and a dead system

1997-12-31 Thread grin
Hello,

Seems nobody met this on the list, perhaps it was my fault. Got
libc6-2.0.6 and I tried to upgrade from 2.0.5c. dpkg unpacked it, and
while setting up I got a very ugly error from ld.so with FULL CAPS and
mumbling some assertion error. From that point the system was without dyna
libraries so rendered completely useless, even a cp or ls triggered the
error. (seems ldconfig wasn't able to run at least)

I had to save the libc6-2.0.5c package's content from a machine and copy
back to /lib

Then tried again, with the same results.

Where's my fault? Was it?

cya
Peter


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Re: compiling the kernel - as86 missing

1997-12-31 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 The command as86 is missing to compile the kernel. It's not on my 
 disk. Where can I find this command ?
 
 Regards,
 Marc

Dear Marc,

you have to install bin86 package to have as86 available.

Alex Y.

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Re: PLEASE, postmaster@debian.org, are you there?

1997-12-31 Thread Martin Schulze
On Tue, Dec 30, 1997 at 06:57:41PM +0100, Dr. Andreas Wehler wrote:

 :Yes, t-online.de is listed in the badmailfrom list.  It has been added
 :due to spam I think.

  Thank you for the answer.  The color of my face has become bleached a
 bit.  Nevertheless I hope this is more a joke than the last answer, or
 is it in the spirit of debian to cut all folks from any debian
 conncetion for historical reasons?  I know that T-Online keeps an eye

No, but as spam has come up the debian lists aren't excluded .  As we
couldn't tell the spammers not to use the debian lists we needed a different
mechanism.  I don't know exactly how the list has been generated but
I think it comes from spamdb and it's resources.  You might want to
check that out.

Regards

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Re: smail, mutt and outgoing From: field

1997-12-31 Thread Martin Schulze
On Tue, Dec 30, 1997 at 12:07:51PM -0800, G. Crimp@freenet.victoria.bc.ca 
wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 30, 1997 at 11:34:20AM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
  
  Is your realname mentioned in /etc/passwd?
 
 No, and I think it was on the Debian/Linux 1.1 system.  Is this
 significant enough to cause the From: field to be changed.

Yes, normally the mua reads the realname from /etc/passwd.  From
where else should it know it?

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activate VFS for kernel with module support - how ?

1997-12-31 Thread Marc Fleureck
Hi,

I compiled a new kernel with module-support. It tries to boot and 
sais: kernel panic VFS: unable to mount fs

Seems logical. I didn't activate the VFS-module.  lsmod doesn't give it 
in the list neither. I must load something.o with insmod. But where 
can I find that something ? Should it be done manually once or do I 
have to put it in some config file ? (/etc/conf.modules ? what does 
it do ?)

Regards,
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/sbin/clock status?

1997-12-31 Thread Randy Edwards
Does anyone know what happened to the nifty little clock program that
used to be in /sbin/clock?  I used that to set my CMOS clock time from
the OS' time but since I updated to hamm I can't seem to find it.  A
grep of Contents-i386 doesn't seem to show it either.  Anyone know its
status?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: activate VFS for kernel with module support - how ?

1997-12-31 Thread Pancho Horrillo
Hi!

VFS stands for Virtual File-System which is the way the Linux
kernel handles ext2: updating the changes in memory, and then
periodiodically to disk (syncing). As far as I know, it is included in
kernel, but not optable. I think your problem is that you haven't
specified where should the kernel mount the root directory i.e.,
/dev/hda1, or wherever. If you use loadlin you must say:

loadlin zImage root=/dev/hd(wherever) ro

If you use lilo, you must re-install lilo after installing the new
kernel. See lilo and lilo.conf documentation.

You could try 'make install' from the linux source directory, it will make
the dirty work for you ;-) (including lilo re-install)

Perhaps you have unselected the 'ext2' option, in filesystems. Select it,
and recompile.

Well, hope it helps!

Good Luck, and Happy New Year!


On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Marc Fleureck wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I compiled a new kernel with module-support. It tries to boot and 
 sais: kernel panic VFS: unable to mount fs
 
 Seems logical. I didn't activate the VFS-module.  lsmod doesn't give it 
 in the list neither. I must load something.o with insmod. But where 
 can I find that something ? Should it be done manually once or do I 
 have to put it in some config file ? (/etc/conf.modules ? what does 
 it do ?)
 
 Regards,
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Re: activate VFS for kernel with module support - how ? (fwd)

1997-12-31 Thread Pancho Horrillo

Hi again!

If you have Debian 1.3.1 CD you will see in /boot several files;
the rescue image is just the linux kernel + root.bin image, which serves
for rescueing and installation. The message you wrote before: VFS: kernel
panic, unable to mount fs, also appear when you try to boot directly from
Debian CD, by typing boot.bat. This is a bug (I think). If you want to
load the instalation / rescue disk, you must type:

loadlin linux initrd=root.bin (the boot.bat lacks 'initrd='), so
the ramdisk cannot be mounted properly, hence the error message.

(ah, initrd stands for Init RamDisk)

Good Luck!

Hope it helps! (again)

(Send me a photo.jpg of Atomium if you have any  time  don't mind too
much :-)

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Re: Alternatives to NIS?

1997-12-31 Thread grin
On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, George Bonser wrote:

  The latest version of NIS uses encryption and authentication. I don't
  know if software is available for debian (or anyone other than Sun).
  Sun calls it NIS Plus.
 
 And you are best staying away from it unless you want to spend long hours
 getting it to work correctly ... and it is fragile ;)

What's for an alternative between debian machines for central password
management?

(Encryption _is_ essential.)

cya
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Re: PLEASE, postmaster@debian.org, are you there?

1997-12-31 Thread Dr. Andreas Wehler
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 :Yes, t-online.de is listed in the badmailfrom list.  It has been added
 :due to spam I think.

  Thank you for the answer.  The color of my face has become bleached a
 bit.  Nevertheless I hope this is more a joke than the last answer, or
 is it in the spirit of debian to cut all folks from any debian
 conncetion for historical reasons?  I know that T-Online keeps an eye

No, but as spam has come up the debian lists aren't excluded .  As we
couldn't tell the spammers not to use the debian lists we needed a different
mechanism.  I don't know exactly how the list has been generated but
I think it comes from spamdb and it's resources.  You might want to
check that out.

 Thanks for the answer.  Now, that the not-too-little ISP T-Online
is marked in the badmailfrom list, there come 2 questions. 

1. What exactly did cause T-Online to find itself on 
   badmailfrom list?  No just guesses please.

   The T-Online Team told me, they would have had a few
   problems with admins, who applied a faulty patch to
   sendmail which wrongly assumed, their canonical email
   address (envelope-sender!)  would be inadmissible.  In
   the moment they can't test it for debian.novare.net is
   not accessible (?).
If this is the case, please remove/modify that patch.
 
2. Under which conditions may T-Online recover from there?

 Thank you,
 Andreas.

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Re: /sbin/clock status?

1997-12-31 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Randy Edwards wrote:

 Does anyone know what happened to the nifty little clock program that
 used to be in /sbin/clock?  I used that to set my CMOS clock time from
 the OS' time but since I updated to hamm I can't seem to find it.  A
 grep of Contents-i386 doesn't seem to show it either.  Anyone know its
 status?  Thanks in advance.

It has been replaced with hwclock, which has a slightly different option
set.

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Re: Telnet translation modes...

1997-12-31 Thread W Paul Mills
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Jason and Heather wrote:

 I'm not sure if this is a Linux problem, or common to telnet in
 general. I haven't run into it until installing Debian though, so
 here it is:
 
 Telnet has two modes, linemode, and charactermode. It defaults to
 linemode if the other side will handle it. This cooks some characters
 and does some extra signalling. It appears that in this mode, hitting 
 the Return key sends a ^M. That's normally not a problem, but I've 
 found that some programs (mutt, and trn in the article selector) 
 don't recognize this key, preferring ^J instead.

I do not know about your specific problem -- mutt and trn, but here
is what I do on my providers system.

Copy /etc/terminfo/l/linux (of your machine) to $HOME/.terminfo
(on the machine your are telneting to).

then in .bashrc
export TERMINFO=$HOME/.terminfo
export TERM=linux


/*** Running Debian Linux ***
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*   that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16  *
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Re: libc6-2.0.5c - 2.0.6 and a dead system

1997-12-31 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, grin wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Seems nobody met this on the list, perhaps it was my fault. Got
 libc6-2.0.6 and I tried to upgrade from 2.0.5c. dpkg unpacked it, and
 while setting up I got a very ugly error from ld.so with FULL CAPS and
 mumbling some assertion error. From that point the system was without dyna
 libraries so rendered completely useless, even a cp or ls triggered the
 error. (seems ldconfig wasn't able to run at least)
 
 I had to save the libc6-2.0.5c package's content from a machine and copy
 back to /lib
 
 Then tried again, with the same results.
 
 Where's my fault? Was it?

The problem is known and is fixed in libc6_2.0.6-2.  It was a problem with
/etc/ld.so.preload handling, removing or renaming that file is a temporary
workaround (it was probably created because you have libnfslock installed)

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Re: route add -net 127.0.0.0

1997-12-31 Thread Scott Ellis
On 31 Dec 1997, Eloy A. Paris wrote:

 does anyone know why on the 2.1.x kernels the command
 
 route add -net 127.0.0.0
 
 gives the error SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument and no route to the
 127.0.0.0 network is added?
 
 I remember I saw something regarding this somewhere but can't remember
 what it was or where I saw it...

In the 2.1.x kernels, the network code automagically adds standard routes
when you bring up a network interface, so neither of
  route add -net 127.0.0.0
  route add -net ${NETWORK}
are necessary.  They don't really cause any problem other than the error
message, but can be safely left out.  You still need to add the default
route however.

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Re: PLEASE, postmaster@debian.org, are you there?

1997-12-31 Thread Martin Schulze
On Wed, Dec 31, 1997 at 03:19:09PM +0100, Dr. Andreas Wehler wrote:

  Thanks for the answer.  Now, that the not-too-little ISP T-Online
 is marked in the badmailfrom list, there come 2 questions. 
 
 1. What exactly did cause T-Online to find itself on 
badmailfrom list?  No just guesses please.
 
The T-Online Team told me, they would have had a few
problems with admins, who applied a faulty patch to
sendmail which wrongly assumed, their canonical email
address (envelope-sender!)  would be inadmissible.  In
the moment they can't test it for debian.novare.net is
not accessible (?).
 If this is the case, please remove/modify that patch.

No, we use qmail on master and there is a badmailfrom file.  It's
a real file containing hostnames.

Regards

Joey

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Re: /sbin/clock status?

1997-12-31 Thread Steve Mayer
Randy,

  /sbin/clock has been replaced by /sbin/hwclock.

Steve Mayer
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Randy Edwards wrote:

 Does anyone know what happened to the nifty little clock program that
 used to be in /sbin/clock?  I used that to set my CMOS clock time from
 the OS' time but since I updated to hamm I can't seem to find it.  A
 grep of Contents-i386 doesn't seem to show it either.  Anyone know its
 status?  Thanks in advance.

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I need help.

1997-12-31 Thread Pierre DUPUIS
I have dl via the internet a *.zip program for linux.
The *.zip has been dl on my Dos partition, and i don't know how to
access it with my linux partition (to install the program i need to
locate it).
I'm a recent debian user, i came from windows OS, so please be explicit
and free of complicated command.

By the same,
Does someone know where can i get a 'Windows or Dos to Linux' Manual, it
can be very helpfull.

Sorry for my english, i'm french so it isn't my native language.

Thanx for any responses, thanx for any mindworking.

Cocon
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PPP Connection Works, Can't Surf...

1997-12-31 Thread G. H.
Well thanks to Tim, I was able to get my PPP server up an running...

One final problem, then I'm out of everyone's hair! ;)

I can logon to the Debian box with WIN95, no problems... Debian assigns 
the WIN95 an IP address, no problems.

BUT, the WIN95 machine isn't able to use DNS lookup or ping other 
computers here in the lab or anywhere.  The only thing it CAN do however 
is talk to the Debian box.. I can telnet, ftp, http, and everything JUST 
to the Debian Box which is the PPP server.  

And to further confuse the subject, Debian is working normally on the 
network.  It can DNS, ftp, http.. you name it, to anywhere, intra and 
Internet...

Any ideas??

Greg Hively

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Re: activate VFS for kernel with module support - how ?

1997-12-31 Thread Martin Bialasinski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Fleureck) writes:

 I compiled a new kernel with module-support. It tries to boot and 
 sais: kernel panic VFS: unable to mount fs
 
 Seems logical. I didn't activate the VFS-module.  lsmod doesn't give it 
 in the list neither. I must load something.o with insmod. But where 
 can I find that something ? Should it be done manually once or do I 
 have to put it in some config file ? (/etc/conf.modules ? what does 
 it do ?)
 
VFS is the virtual filesystem. It is a layer below say ext2 of vfat.
You don't have to activate it, it is a part of the kernel.

I assume you have your root filesystem as ext2. You can't have ext2
as a module then. Check this.

Ciao,
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Re: PLEASE, postmaster@debian.org, are you there?

1997-12-31 Thread Dr. Andreas Wehler
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Thanks for the answer.  Now, that the not-too-little ISP T-Online

 Now I can be a bit more precise: today there are about  1.8 million
users at T-Online, it is the greatest ISP in Europe.

 is marked in the badmailfrom list, there come 2 questions. 
 
 1. What exactly did cause T-Online to find itself on 
badmailfrom list?  No just guesses please.
 
The T-Online Team told me, they would have had a few
problems with admins, who applied a faulty patch to
sendmail which wrongly assumed, their canonical email
address (envelope-sender!)  would be inadmissible.  In
the moment they can't test it for debian.novare.net is
not accessible (?).
 If this is the case, please remove/modify that patch.

No, we use qmail on master and there is a badmailfrom file.  It's
a real file containing hostnames.

 Oh, so the easiest solution isnt one.  Then the 2nd Q comes into the
play:

: 2. Under which conditions may T-Online recover from there?

 I hope but doubt somehow, this will be solved by this year?

 Andreas.

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Re: Alternatives to NIS?

1997-12-31 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
grin wrote:
 
 On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, George Bonser wrote:
 
   The latest version of NIS uses encryption and authentication. I don't
   know if software is available for debian (or anyone other than Sun).
   Sun calls it NIS Plus.
 
  And you are best staying away from it unless you want to spend long hours
  getting it to work correctly ... and it is fragile ;)
 
 What's for an alternative between debian machines for central password
 management?
 
 (Encryption _is_ essential.)

Perhaps RADIUS provides it? Otherwise I know of no solution.

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Re: I need help.

1997-12-31 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Pierre DUPUIS wrote:

 I have dl via the internet a *.zip program for linux.
 The *.zip has been dl on my Dos partition, and i don't know how to
 access it with my linux partition (to install the program i need to
 locate it).
 I'm a recent debian user, i came from windows OS, so please be explicit
 and free of complicated command.

You have to mount the ms-dos partition; hopefully your kernel has been
configured to do that.

Try 'mount -t msdos /dev/hd{x} /mnt', where hd{x} is /hda1, etc (depending
on the drive number and partition number.  If you have one hard drive and
the first partition is dos, it would be /dev/hda1. 

Then you should be able to see the partition from Linux.  Try 'ls -al
/mnt/filename.zip to see if it is recognized.  Copy it to one of your
Linux directories (with cp) and unzip it with the unzip command. 

 
 By the same,
 Does someone know where can i get a 'Windows or Dos to Linux' Manual, it
 can be very helpfull.

I agree that it would be useful for the beginner, but haven't seen one.

Bob


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Re: PPP Connection Works, Can't Surf...

1997-12-31 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, G. H. wrote:

 Well thanks to Tim, I was able to get my PPP server up an running...
 
 One final problem, then I'm out of everyone's hair! ;)
 
 I can logon to the Debian box with WIN95, no problems... Debian assigns 
 the WIN95 an IP address, no problems.
 
 BUT, the WIN95 machine isn't able to use DNS lookup or ping other 
 computers here in the lab or anywhere.  The only thing it CAN do however 
 is talk to the Debian box.. I can telnet, ftp, http, and everything JUST 
 to the Debian Box which is the PPP server.  
 
 And to further confuse the subject, Debian is working normally on the 
 network.  It can DNS, ftp, http.. you name it, to anywhere, intra and 
 Internet...
 
 Any ideas??

You need to configure the networking on the Win95 computer to use the
Debian computer as a gateway.  Also check the netmask on both boxes.

Bob


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Re:PPP Connection Works, Can't Surf...

1997-12-31 Thread Butch Kemper
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At 09:52 -0600 on 12/31/97, G. H. wrote:


 Well thanks to Tim, I was able to get my PPP server up an running...

 One final problem, then I'm out of everyone's hair! ;)

 I can logon to the Debian box with WIN95, no problems... Debian assigns
 the WIN95 an IP address, no problems.

 BUT, the WIN95 machine isn't able to use DNS lookup or ping other
 computers here in the lab or anywhere.  The only thing it CAN do however
 is talk to the Debian box.. I can telnet, ftp, http, and everything JUST
 to the Debian Box which is the PPP server.

 And to further confuse the subject, Debian is working normally on the
 network.  It can DNS, ftp, http.. you name it, to anywhere, intra and
 Internet...

I had this problem and solved it by compiling the kernel with the
CONFIG_IP_FORWARD option turned on.

Butch

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Kemper  Associates Consulting Group | 95% sound and 5% advice
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Re: Alternatives to NIS?

1997-12-31 Thread grin
On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

The latest version of NIS uses encryption and authentication. I don't
know if software is available for debian (or anyone other than Sun).
Sun calls it NIS Plus.
  
   And you are best staying away from it unless you want to spend long hours
   getting it to work correctly ... and it is fragile ;)
  
  What's for an alternative between debian machines for central password
  management?
  
  (Encryption _is_ essential.)
 
 Perhaps RADIUS provides it? Otherwise I know of no solution.

Everyone keeps telling that RADIUS have very basic security, and I'm about
to believe that. But even it it wasn't so I have no knowledge of Linux
RADIUS clients.

NIS have no security at all (I checked it), NIS+ and NYS were told to be
too complex AND fairly insecure. Hm.

I need a centralised authentication service which can at least auth email
and login services, and have both clients and servers under linux. And
able to stand against possible snoopers between them.



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Re: PLEASE, postmaster@debian.org, are you there?

1997-12-31 Thread Wintermute
Dr. Andreas Wehler wrote:

 Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Thanks for the answer.  Now, that the not-too-little ISP T-Online

  Now I can be a bit more precise: today there are about  1.8 million
 users at T-Online, it is the greatest ISP in Europe.

  is marked in the badmailfrom list, there come 2 questions.
 
  1. What exactly did cause T-Online to find itself on
 badmailfrom list?  No just guesses please.
 
 The T-Online Team told me, they would have had a few
 problems with admins, who applied a faulty patch to
 sendmail which wrongly assumed, their canonical email
 address (envelope-sender!)  would be inadmissible.  In
 the moment they can't test it for debian.novare.net is
 not accessible (?).
  If this is the case, please remove/modify that patch.
 
 No, we use qmail on master and there is a badmailfrom file.  It's
 a real file containing hostnames.

  Oh, so the easiest solution isnt one.  Then the 2nd Q comes into the
 play:

 : 2. Under which conditions may T-Online recover from there?

  I hope but doubt somehow, this will be solved by this year?

  Andreas.


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Ensoniq Soundscape

1997-12-31 Thread Timothy Hospedales
Following the Sound HOWTO, I just built a kernel with soundscape support
(2.0.32), and only the MIDI is working. :(. Does anyone else have a
Soundscape, and if so how did you fix this?

It says this on bootup:
Sound initialization started
Ensoniq SoundScape at 0x330 irq 9 dma 3
SoundScape (MPU401) at 0x330 irq 9 dma 3
SoundScape: Invalid MSS IRQ11
Sound initialization complete

It looks like the IRQ is wrong, but i'm not sure what to put because I
noticed the soundscape uses different settings for things between my DOS
and Win95/NT. :(

Thanks,
Timothy.


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Re: Alternatives to NIS?

1997-12-31 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
grin wrote:
 
 On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
 
 The latest version of NIS uses encryption and authentication. I don't
 know if software is available for debian (or anyone other than Sun).
 Sun calls it NIS Plus.
   
And you are best staying away from it unless you want to spend long 
hours
getting it to work correctly ... and it is fragile ;)
  
   What's for an alternative between debian machines for central password
   management?
  
   (Encryption _is_ essential.)
 
  Perhaps RADIUS provides it? Otherwise I know of no solution.
 
 Everyone keeps telling that RADIUS have very basic security, and I'm about
 to believe that. But even it it wasn't so I have no knowledge of Linux
 RADIUS clients.
 
 NIS have no security at all (I checked it), NIS+ and NYS were told to be
 too complex AND fairly insecure. Hm.
 
 I need a centralised authentication service which can at least auth email
 and login services, and have both clients and servers under linux. And
 able to stand against possible snoopers between them.

Hey, you can always roll your own! You could use secure sockets as a
base and go from there. If you could figure a way to get the stock
ONC RPC to work with Secure Sockets Layer this would almost be
trivial. One other thought: You could take a look at Kerberos V.
The problem is there aren't a lot of ready-made apps which work with it.
You may want to approach the problem on an application-by-application
basis. What all services do you want to offer?

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Re: Ensoniq Soundscape

1997-12-31 Thread Wintermute
Timothy Hospedales wrote:

 Following the Sound HOWTO, I just built a kernel with soundscape 
 support
 (2.0.32), and only the MIDI is working. :(. Does anyone else have a
 Soundscape, and if so how did you fix this?

 It says this on bootup:
 Sound initialization started
 Ensoniq SoundScape at 0x330 irq 9 dma 3
 SoundScape (MPU401) at 0x330 irq 9 dma 3
 SoundScape: Invalid MSS IRQ11
 Sound initialization complete

 It looks like the IRQ is wrong, but i'm not sure what to put because I
 noticed the soundscape uses different settings for things between my DOS
 and Win95/NT. :(

 Thanks,
 Timothy.




Although I don't have a true Ensoniq Soundscape card, I do have a clone made by 
the
now defunct Reveal.

One thing I found out was that to use the Soundscape card under Linux I had to
disable it's Sound Blaster compatibility mode under the DOS SSINIT program.

On a closer note, you will most likely need to force the card into a non PNP 
mode
and adjust it's settings manually to where you want them to be.  (Either that or
try the ISAPNP tools for Linux.. ).   If your card (as mine does) uses the 
SSINIT
program in DOS mode to set itself up, you can use that to determine where your 
card
is trying to place itself.




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Re: Ensoniq Soundscape

1997-12-31 Thread Timothy Hospedales
Can I (and if so how), change the settings that it's using now, or do I
have to rebuild the kernel each time I want to change them? Also - when you
say disable the SB compatability under MSDOS, do you mean changing
'SBENABLE=true' to false in the soundscape.ini and then running the batch
file, or are you talking about something elese? I take it I should use
the regular settings in the .ini file, and not the ones that it uses when
its emmulating a soundblaster?

Thanks alot!
Timothy.

Although I don't have a true Ensoniq Soundscape card, I do have a clone
made by the
now defunct Reveal.

One thing I found out was that to use the Soundscape card under Linux I
had to
disable it's Sound Blaster compatibility mode under the DOS SSINIT program.

On a closer note, you will most likely need to force the card into a non
PNP mode
and adjust it's settings manually to where you want them to be.  (Either
that or
try the ISAPNP tools for Linux.. ).   If your card (as mine does) uses the
SSINIT
program in DOS mode to set itself up, you can use that to determine where
your card
is trying to place itself.


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ghostview sneakily learning about another filesystem

1997-12-31 Thread hawk

This shouldn't be possible . . .

After it's first use in a session, ghostview tends to give me the following 
message:

Exec of /afs/iastate.edu/public/ghost/bin333/gs-axp failed: No such file or 
directory
Error: PostScript interpreter failed in main window.

This is the path on our university's vincent (athena) alpha's, running OSF1.  
But there is no way that this k6 box should even know about those paths.  I 
did a clean install, but it still pulls this.

Any ideas?

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Re: PPP Connection Works, Can't Surf...

1997-12-31 Thread Martin Bialasinski
G. H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I can logon to the Debian box with WIN95, no problems... Debian assigns 
 the WIN95 an IP address, no problems.
 
 BUT, the WIN95 machine isn't able to use DNS lookup or ping other 
 computers here in the lab or anywhere.  The only thing it CAN do however 
 is talk to the Debian box.. I can telnet, ftp, http, and everything JUST 
 to the Debian Box which is the PPP server.  
 
Does the windoze box get a official IP or one from the e.g. 192.168.x.x
subnet? You have to use IP-Masquerading then.

Did you say use default gateway at the win95 box?

What does netstat -rn say about the default gateway 0.0.0.0 ?

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: HELP: dpkg

1997-12-31 Thread TJM
It appears that you've downloaded the file xisp_2.1-1.deb with win95 and
ie, which then changed the file name to xisp_2_1-1(1).deb  (another ms
feature, I guess).  You can change the name back to its original with Linux
or win95, or download it again and set the name correctly when win95 asks
for the filename to save.


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Re: Ensoniq Soundscape

1997-12-31 Thread Wintermute
Timothy Hospedales wrote:

 Can I (and if so how), change the settings that it's using now, or do 
 I
 have to rebuild the kernel each time I want to change them? Also - when you
 say disable the SB compatability under MSDOS, do you mean changing
 'SBENABLE=true' to false in the soundscape.ini and then running the batch
 file, or are you talking about something elese? I take it I should use
 the regular settings in the .ini file, and not the ones that it uses when
 its emmulating a soundblaster?

 Thanks alot!
 Timothy.


There should be some sort of DOS based initialization program for your 
SoundScape
(mine was called ssinit.exe and is located in my \sndscape directory).  By 
running
this program by itself it will allow you to configure the card for use with DOS,
and allow the settings on the card to be changed.

I would think even PnP cards stay pretty constant, but if you do not wish to
switch the card out of PnP mode (if your particular soundcard is PnP) and 
manually
configure its settings, you should look into using the ISAPNP tools for Linux.
When looking for the current settings in the .ini file, only trust the
sndscape.ini file that is in your WINDOWS directory (if you run the beast), the
one that you may find in your \sndscape directory (or whatever directory houses
the Sound Scape program files) is usually only used during DOS sessions or first
installation as a default template (if at all).

Yes, always use the regular settings.  Do no compile your kernel with support 
for
anything else but the SoundScape (support for /dev/dsp and /dev/audio is ok to
include as well as General Midi support, and the subsidiary drivers).  The only
problem I ever had using my SoundScape turned out to be that I was attempting to
have Linux use the settings for it's SB compatible mode and the driver did not
like this, but after turning off the SB emulation, everything was beautiful.



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Re: HELP: dpkg

1997-12-31 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 From: Albert Hurd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I believe there is only one underscore in the file name.  Try
xisp_2.1-1.deb
   ^ 
Bob

On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Albert Hurd writes:
 
 I tried dpkg -i (and cp) on xisp_2_1-1(1).deb and got the following
 message:  ^ 
 
syntax error near unexpected token `xisp_2_1-1(1'


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Can't select menu items on RealPlayer 5.0 Beta 2

1997-12-31 Thread cleto
First of all, a Happy New Year to all of you!

I've installed the RealPlayer 5.0 Beta 2 on my Debian 1.3.1 system, and
everything works fine, except for one detail: I can't select anything from
the menus, although the single items on the menu bar (File, etc.) get the
focus when I pass over them with the mouse cursor. Drop-down menus are
shown as well, but nothing else can be done on them...

I'm using FVWM-2 and XFree 3.3.1. RealPlayer seems to be the only app I
have come across that shows this behaviour... Sorry if the question sounds
a little bit silly, but I'm puzzled. Is anyone else having this problem?

Cleto



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Re: Debian on CD.

1997-12-31 Thread Mark W. Blunier
On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Jason and Heather wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 31, 1997 at 12:12:32AM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tim, your comments are inappropriate. Let me assure you that 
   there is no fraud at all here. 
  
  I never claimed there was. I was just stating that it was a way to 
  get a response. Obviously, it worked.
 
 Sounds to me like there _was_ fraud. Perhaps not on the part of 
 Greenbush's principles, but definitely on the part of the (ex) 
 employee. Of course, to the customer who sent money and received 
 nothing, there's no difference.

It's alway nice to have a scapegoat, but this is not a new event
at Greenbush.  This is rather unfortunate, as the CD's that I did
receive included many non-free packages, and were up to date
unlike the official CD's (at the time).

Mark
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Re:PPP Connection Works, Can't Surf...

1997-12-31 Thread Butch Kemper
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At 11:56 -0600 on 12/31/97, G. H. wrote:


 I had this problem and solved it by compiling the kernel with the
 CONFIG_IP_FORWARD option turned on.

 I'm about ready to snap on this Linux crap!  I've run into more and more
 walls with this thing...

 How does one go about compiling the Kernel??

 I don't have any of the source...  Where can I find the steps to do
 this?

 Is it possible to hexedit the kernel for the desired effect?

Hey, Linux is a real operating system with lots of options.  When you step
out on the edge, you have to start reading and hacking.  That's what adds
spice to life :-)

Use dselect and install the kernel source to match the kernel you are
running.  It is 6MB+ so it will take some time to download.

There is a document in /usr/doc/HOWTO that tells you how to compile the kernel.

Hexedit is *NOT* possible because the IP_FORWARD option adds 5K to the
kernel size.

Butch

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stability of Hamm for alpha?

1997-12-31 Thread ninjaz
I'm going to be installing linux on an alphastation shortly, and would
like to install debian (which I've used with much success for 2 years now)
instead of redhat, but only hamm - unstable is available.  Any comments on
the stability of this?  It will be a remote server, so X is not an issue.
apache, bind and basic networking functionaly are important.  Minor
imperfections are not a problem, as this won't need to be a
production-grade server for a while.   Thanks..

-pete


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