Re: 'watching' a file

[Ralph Winslow]

Paul Miller wrote:
> 
> How can you 'watch' a file as it is being written to?  For example, I want
> to have a script watch a log files for certain information and do
> something when it sees the information.

tail -f file_name
> 
> Thanks
> -Paul
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Re: 'watching' a file

[Miquel van Smoorenburg]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>How can you 'watch' a file as it is being written to?  For example, I want
>to have a script watch a log files for certain information and do
>something when it sees the information.

Ah, basic shell programming question :)

Something like:

-

#! /bin/sh

tail -f /var/log/messages | (
  while read line
  do
case "$line" in
*emergency*)
echo "EMERGENCY: $line" > /dev/console
;;
*"ippp0: dialing"*)
echo "DIALING: $line" > /dev/console
;;
esac
  done
)
-

Well, you get the idea ..

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Re: 'watching' a file

[Ben Pfaff]

   How can you 'watch' a file as it is being written to?  For example, I want
   to have a script watch a log files for certain information and do
   something when it sees the information.

Depending on exactly what you mean, `tail -f' might be helpful.


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'watching' a file

[Paul Miller]

How can you 'watch' a file as it is being written to?  For example, I want
to have a script watch a log files for certain information and do
something when it sees the information.

Thanks
-Paul


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Re: SCSI controller

[Greg Norris]

I have an Adeptec 2940/UW, and havn't had a hint of trouble.
Performance seems quite good.

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Peter Paluch wrote:

> Hello,
> ==
> 
> I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
> in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
> think of Adaptec and Western Digital?


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sgml-tools ps problem

[Richard Sevenich]

I have newly installed sgml-tools and have used the formatter 'sgml2latex'
successfully except for producing postscript. The error message is

Error: Invalid value 'filename.sgml' for '--papersize'

As an sgml newbie I know not what to do e.g. does the sgmltool.dtd need
some editing somewhere?

TIA, Richard


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Re: Horario de verao

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra]

>Eis o arquivo.consegui' puxa-lo mas acho que agora nao vai util
pois ele
>configurava o horario de verao para ate' 01/03


Sim... será que alguém sabe quais os dias previstos para o horário
de verão para os próximos anos? Se alguém tiver essa informação, alguém
poderia vir a conseguir compilar um novo Brazil/East usando o zic... eu
mesmo poderia fazer isso, se tivesse entendido alguma coisa do formato
do fonte para o zic.

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Re: debian root boot disks

[dg]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Ronald James McEachern wrote:

> can you direct me to detailed instructions on exact commands and files
> needed to install linux debian on a 1 gig dos partition?

First of all - my two cents - DON'T (in other words DO NOT) install linux on
a DOS partition (which means, that you have to use UMSDOS as your root
fillsystem). You will not be happy with this solution. If you don't want to
re-partition your hard drive, go out and buy another. The 1.2 Gig drives are
cheap (because no one want's them anymore) out there.

Second - here are the URL's:

- Debian GNU/Linux Home Page
http://www.debian.org/

- Debian GNU/Linux User Documentation
http://www.debian.org/doc/

- Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide (as HTML Document)
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/stable/disks-i386/current/install.html

I hope this will help you.

Bye

Daniel

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Re: [LILO]

[Stephen Zedalis]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:

>map=/boot/map
>vga=normal
>delay=20
>image=/vmlinuz
>label=Linux
>append = "mem=96M"
>read-only

Dude, take the spaces out of the line with the append.  The rerun lilo.


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Re: www.ml.org and dynamic dns

[Ender Wigin]

-K
Kevin Poorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Do the Free-Ride 

On 3 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have agreed to package one of the client programs that www.ml.org has for
> Debian, but I think that this would best be done by someone who is actually
> using the service.  Is there anyone here who is and wants to become a
> maintainer?

Which one where you going to package ... I use mlupd which I would be more
than willing to package+maintain ... Just as soon as my application for
becoming a maintainer goes though.

ps: I need to check the mlupd copyright file ... it may be non-freeish...



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Re: loading support for 2 ethernet cards

[Nathan E Norman]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Rob Goodwin wrote:

: I am having trouble autoprobing more than one Ethernet card at boot
: time.  I have compiled support for the cards I am using (they are both
: of the same type) but only one is detected at boot time.  I found a
: howto that describes a method that involves adding the line
: "ether=0,0,eth1" to my lilo.conf file but I continuosly get syntax
: errors when doing this and I cant figure out where in the lilo.conf file
: to put this line... Any help would be appreciated.
: 
: Thanks in advance 
: Rob

Yeah, it's a bit unclear at first.  What you want to do is put the
information on the append line, like this:

append="mem=96M ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x2e0,eth1"

I'd recommend you put in the real values rather than 0,0 - that enables
autoprobing and let's face it, you do want to know which interface is
which, don't you?

I hope this helps.  By the way, my two cards are 3C509B's.

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loading support for 2 ethernet cards

[Rob Goodwin]

I am having trouble autoprobing more than one Ethernet card at boot
time.  I have compiled support for the cards I am using (they are both
of the same type) but only one is detected at boot time.  I found a
howto that describes a method that involves adding the line
"ether=0,0,eth1" to my lilo.conf file but I continuosly get syntax
errors when doing this and I cant figure out where in the lilo.conf file
to put this line... Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance 
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Re: FAT32

[Ben Gertzfield]

David B Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there a version of Debian that has the FAT32 patch?
> It seems this patch has been available for a while now, but
> was not included in 1.3 revision 6.

The FAT32 patch will be included in Debian 2.0. It's currently
included in the kernel-image-2.0.33 package in the 'hamm' (2.0 beta)
distribution of Debian.

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spontaneous rebooting

[David B Wilson]

I installed Debian GNU Linux 1.3 revision 6 on a laptop.  When I boot
the system, just when LILO is about to load Linux, there seems to be
an 80% - 90% chance that the system will spontaneously reboot.  If I
wait a long time, eventually LILO successfully loads Linux without
rebooting.

Is this a hardware problem?  (The manufacturer doesn't think so.)
I'll mention that when the laptop was running Windows 95 before I
installed Linux, it experienced no such problem, and I've never seen a
spontaneous reboot when I select Windows 95 rather than Linux from
LILO.  What can I do to fix the laptop?

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Re: SCSI controller

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 09:10:21AM -0500,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
>  I personally have an NCR53c825 card. NCR/Symbios released their 
> programming information, too, and the drivers are very good. All the 
> NCR53c8xx cards are supported, and most of the NCR53c7xx cards, from what 
> I gather. NCR cards are also very cheap - www.swt.com has an ad in the 
> Linux Journal to sell an NCR53c810 (Fast SCSI) for $53 (US).

For what it's worth, Adaptec have just bought Symbios Logic. I don't know
whether this will change things significantly in the Symbios line or not.


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Re: [LILO]

[Nathan E Norman]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:

The one thing you don't mention is if you actually reran 'lilo'.
Editing lilo.conf is not good enough; you must rerun lilo.

Assuming that you did that, the location of the append line in your
config file may be problematic.  I don't claim to be a lilo expert, but
I have noticed that global defines such as "append" are better placed
near the beginning of the file than near the end.  Try moving your
"append" line to right after the "delay" line (and rerun lilo before you
reboot).

Here's my lilo.conf ...

kepler:~ $ cat /etc/lilo.conf 
boot=/dev/sda1
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
append="mem=96M ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x2e0,eth1"
# images
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.32
  root=/dev/sda1
  label=Linux
  read-only

HTH,


: I upgraded from 64M to 96M of RAM.
: 
: beetle % cat /etc/lilo.conf
: boot=/dev/sdb3
: root=/dev/sdb3
: # Generated by liloconfig
: compact
: install=/boot/boot.b
: map=/boot/map
: vga=normal
: delay=20
: image=/vmlinuz
: label=Linux
: append = "mem=96M"
: read-only
: 
: beetle # dmesg | grep Memory
: Memory: 63084k/65536k available (836k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1232k
: data)
: 
: beetle % cat /proc/meminfo
: total:used:free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
: Mem:  64598016 59875328  4722688 92307456  2199552 28725248
: Swap: 657981440 65798144
: MemTotal: 63084 kB
: MemFree:   4612 kB
: MemShared:90144 kB
: Buffers:   2148 kB
: Cached:   28052 kB
: SwapTotal:64256 kB
: SwapFree: 64256 kB
: 
: 
: What gives?  I *did* reboot.  I did run the BIOS config utility.  During
: bootup I can see 96M.  FWIW, I use System Commander.  Get into LILO from
: there and bootup.
: 
: I am guessing that LILO is not passing the append string to the kernel. 
: Would appreciate help.
: 
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[LILO]

[Sudhakar Chandrasekharan]

I upgraded from 64M to 96M of RAM.

beetle % cat /etc/lilo.conf
boot=/dev/sdb3
root=/dev/sdb3
# Generated by liloconfig
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
append = "mem=96M"
read-only

beetle # dmesg | grep Memory
Memory: 63084k/65536k available (836k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1232k
data)

beetle % cat /proc/meminfo
total:used:free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
Mem:  64598016 59875328  4722688 92307456  2199552 28725248
Swap: 657981440 65798144
MemTotal: 63084 kB
MemFree:   4612 kB
MemShared:90144 kB
Buffers:   2148 kB
Cached:   28052 kB
SwapTotal:64256 kB
SwapFree: 64256 kB


What gives?  I *did* reboot.  I did run the BIOS config utility.  During
bootup I can see 96M.  FWIW, I use System Commander.  Get into LILO from
there and bootup.

I am guessing that LILO is not passing the append string to the kernel. 
Would appreciate help.

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python import question: /lib/libm.so.5: undefined symbol: __getfpucw

[Mike Miller]

I recently moved a machine from 1.3 to unstable and am now
getting lib errors when I try to import a python module.  The
module (dislin) is one I've installed myself, as is the python
version (1.5).  Before the move to libc6, this worked fine.
After the move I recompiled python and now find that importing
dislin gives me this error:

---
Python 1.5 (#11, Feb 26 1998, 15:46:35)  [GCC 2.7.2.3] on linux2
Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam
>>> import dislin
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "", line 1, in ?
ImportError: /lib/libm.so.5: undefined symbol: __getfpucw
---

I don't know how to track down this problem though.  Does anyone
know if this is a problem in my libm.so.5 (part of the
oldlibs/libc5 package)?  Or is it likely that I'll have to come
up with a libc6 version of the dislin library?

A related question - how does one list the symbols in a shared
library? 

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FAT32

[David B Wilson]

Is there a version of Debian that has the FAT32 patch?
It seems this patch has been available for a while now, but
was not included in 1.3 revision 6.


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Re: dotfile locking, NFS and lockd

[Miquel van Smoorenburg]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Nelson Posse Lago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Quite some time ago (somewhere around debian 1.1 and 1.2), it was pointed
>out (by Miquel Smoorenburg, I think)

Yep.

>that while all debian programs
>(or all mail related programs?) agree in using dotfile locking, many of
>them used the "wrong" function to implement that, since the commonly used
>function is not atomic over NFS (meaning locking could fail over NFS on a
>busy machine).

Yes, using open("file", O_WRONLY|O_EXCL) is not atomic over NFS.

>So, I'd like to know the status of that; is this solved in 1.3.1? What

Not really.

>about 1.2 (I haven't upgraded yet, I'm lazy ;-) . Or, putting it
>differently: can I export my mail spool thru NFS and sleep at night if
>all systems involved run debian?

No, not by default. There is a way around it however; you can install
the libnfslock package. It's a preloaded library that intercepts the
open() call. If you use O_EXCL, it does an NFS safe file create using
a temp file and the link(2) system call.

We've been running with that for quite some time, and I haven't seen
any mailbox corruption yet even though me and my collegues read mail
over NFS every day..

>On the same line, I think the new (2.1.x) kernel-supported NFS server is
>supposed to have the hooks necessary to implement a really cool lockd for
>linux which would solve this kind of problem and allow for reliable NFS
>locking among linux and other Unixes etc.

Yes, but only if:

1. all programs use the same locking protocol (i.e. either safe dotfile
   locking or fnctl() locking or both in the same order
2. The lockd's between different systems actually cooperate.

(1) means you need to inspect all programs anyway, and (2) means it
usually works in a homogenous environment. Not between different unixes
usually...

>Quite misteriously, I don't see
>mentions to this when people talk about the improvements of the new
>kernels, why is that? And is the lockd really being developed? If so,

Yes, lockd is indeed part of the new kernel nfsd, and there is client
side support in the 2.1.x NFS client code.

>should I expect it to be available when the newer kernel "freezes"?

The libnfslock solution is good enough for now, and when all programs
use the same locking protocol (which is dotlocking, or file based locking
according to the Debian policy) you can remove libnfslock from your
system. Note that it doesn't buy us much to move to fnctl() based locking
with the kernel lockd, since as I said the most difficult part is to
get all programs to just do locking in the same (safe) way, whether that
is dotlocking or fnctl() locking.

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Re: making room

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,

I thought I posted this here, but ...

Getting the information on the fly has scalability and
 response time problems (tried xbooks or picons-usenix lately?)

The files included by some herlper packages put in data which
 is not quite suited for the size tool; (not surprising since the data
 format was decided before designing the program). We have discovered
 that a du -S data form is better suited to our needs, and have come
 up with the following script that can use the du -S data (as opposed
 to the old du -s data).

Ths has yet to be debated and made policy.

manoj

__
#! /usr/bin/perl -w

package Check_DU;

use strict;
use diagnostics;
use Carp;
require 5.001;

sub check_du {
  my %data;
  
  # find out the mount points of the devices
  open DF, "df |" or die "Could not run df:$!" ;
  while () {
m!/dev.*\s(/\S*)! or next;
my $device_no = (stat($1))[0];
$data{$device_no}{'Name'} = $1;
  }
  close DF or die "Could not close pipe from df:$!" ;
  
  # read all the du -S files given on the command line
  while (<>) {
my ($size, $dir_name) = split /\s+/, $_;
my $device_no = (stat("/$dir_name"))[0];
$data{$device_no}{'Size'} += $size;
  }
  return \%data;
}

sub print_du {
  my %params = @_;
  croak("Need argument 'Size Data'") unless defined $params{'Size Data'};
  
  
  for (sort keys %{$params{'Size Data'}}) {
next unless $params{'Size Data'}{$_}{'Size'};
printf "%10d %s\n", $params{'Size Data'}{$_}{'Size'}, 
$params{'Size Data'}{$_}{'Name'};
  }
}

sub test_du {
  my $data = &check_du();
  &print_du('Size Data' => $data);
}

{ # Execute simple test if run as a script
  package main; no strict;
  eval join('',) || die "$@ $main::DATA" unless caller();
}


1;

__END__

# Test the library
&Check_DU::test_du();

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Re: dotfile locking, NFS and lockd

[Jean Pierre LeJacq]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Nelson Posse Lago wrote:

> On the same line, I think the new (2.1.x) kernel-supported NFS server is
> supposed to have the hooks necessary to implement a really cool lockd for
> linux which would solve this kind of problem and allow for reliable NFS
> locking among linux and other Unixes etc. Quite misteriously, I don't see
> mentions to this when people talk about the improvements of the new
> kernels, why is that? And is the lockd really being developed? If so,
> should I expect it to be available when the newer kernel "freezes"?

My understanding is that nfs locking is not part of the new nfs
server.  There is some work being done on a lockd daemon but it seems
to be a low priority.  See:

  http://www.swb.de/personal/okir/status.html.

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debian root boot disks

[Ronald James McEachern]

can you direct me to detailed instructions on exact commands and files
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bo-unstable bash

[servis]

I tried to install the bo-unstable bash and it has a dependency on both
libc5 and libc6.  Is this correct?  Has anybody installed this on a
straight 1.3.1r6 system(no libc6)?  Can I dpkg --force install it
without harm? 

Thanks,
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Re: SCSI controller

[Cleto Pescia]

> > I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
> > in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
> > think of Adaptec and Western Digital?
> 
> Only BusLogic (Mylex) is guranteed to work properly under Linux.

Yes, I can confirm that. All BusLogic boxes I've put together never ever
had a single problem with the SCSI subsystem. If you want / need a
critical-mission grade machine, go with Mylex.

But Adaptec's AHA-2940 and its variations (UltraSCSI and Wide) aren't
*that* bad either -- although it is true that there is no official support
from Adaptec.

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Re: Kernel Install

[David Wright]

On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Scott Walker wrote:

> Ok, this is a BIG nasty weird problem.
> I'm runnig Debian With default Kernel 2.0.29

So we're in bo, I take it.

> I grabbed Kernel 2.0.33 from ftp.kernel.org
> and did the following steps:
> tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
> cd linux
> make mrproper
> make menuconfig
> make dep
> make clean
> make zlilo
> make modules
> make modules_install
> reboot
> 
> Now, on ANY other machine.. doing a uname -a or checking /proc/version I'd
> have Linux 2.0.33 blah lah lah... But not on this box... it's still saying
> 2.0.29. Now I left the machine running for an hour.. and still.. 2.0.29..
> so I rebooted.. still 2.0.29.. I copied the kernel I compiled to a disk
> and boot the disk in another machine.. kernel 2.0.33. Now I check the
> 'screwed' machine by attacking it with land/teardrop to see if it was just
> a version screw up and it was really running 2.0.33 just not reporting
> it.. and it bombed. so it's still running 2.0.29. does anyone hve ANY
> ideas about this? I have recompiled, reinstalled, reunpacked and
> redownloaded the kernel multiple times and it still will nt update.

Well it pretty obviously put the compiled kernel somewhere where 
something couldn't find it, so it just carried on using the old one.
Presumably it consistently did the same thing multiple times, which is a 
relief.

I notice you're using a linux tarball and not the Debian kernel-source 
package, so there may be some sort of tweak missing. For example, the 
linux/Makefile says:

# INSTALL_PATH specifies where to place the updated kernel and system map
# images.  Uncomment if you want to place them anywhere other than root.

#INSTALL_PATH=/boot

Now I compile my own kernels from kernel-source packages and I don't 
touch that line. However, "make install" always puts the new kernel and 
map in /boot (and moves symlinks in root), so something must be Debianised.

You could try changing make zlilo to make zImage and make install and see
where the kernel image ends up (remember the System.map too).

Alternatively, you could get 33 in a debian package from unstable - I've 
compiled it for the joystick on a bo system without any problems.

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Re: afterstep

[Kevin Traas]

>I upgraded afterstep to 1.4, but I had to downgrade it back to 1.0,
>cuz the new one did not get any of my old confs, and looked horrible!
>
>Did I do anything wrong?


Yeah, you didn't configure it to your own tastes!Give it another try!

The conf files and structure have totally changed between versions.  To
modify your new setup, just go to ~/GNUStep/Library/AfterStep/* and modify
the stuff in there.

It's all pretty self-explanatory.

Later,
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Re: Kernel Install

[Henry Hollenberg]

I found Dale Scheetz book helpful pg. 159-171 go over the traditional
linux way of compiling a custom kernel vs. the Debian way.

I got mine from www.linuxpress.com but you might find one in your local
bookstore "The Debian Linux User's Guide"

I'd have been pretty lost without it.  Oh yeah, I don't have any stock in
this company or book and wouldn't no Dale if I literally bumped into
himjust found the book helpful for me.

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Re: LI instead of LILO:

[C.J.LAWSON]

I'm glad to be of help
Jonathan

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Daniel Mashao wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, C.J.LAWSON wrote:
> 
> > I have had this problem before and I almost died of fustration before I
> > fixed ... as with most things the solution was pretty simple. For a start
> > try using a minimal lilo and requesting the bios to auto detect the hdd at
> > boot up. If this fails then do the same thing (auto detect) but specify 
> > large, LBA and then normal, in turn ... Large did the trick for me if I
> > can remember correctly
> 
> I reinstalled about 4 times and then I saw your email and the user.tex for
> lilo and it suddenly clicked that you may be right and you were truly
> right. I set my drive from normal to AUTO and everything works. The system
> works beautifully now.
> 
> This info needs to go on the FAQ of LILO. I wonder how many people gave up
> just because of this. 
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Re: sharing a fax/modem with win95

[Steve Mayer]

Rob,

  Check out the Hylafax package.  It has a Windows client.

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Rob Goodwin wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Can anyone out there tell me if there is some kind of solution out there
> that will let win95 to send a fax through a fax/modem on a linux server?
> 
> thanks for any suggestions,
> 
> rob
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Re: php3 + apache = undefined `table_elts'

[Gergely Madarasz]

On 4 Mar 1998, tibor simko wrote:

> > "greg" == Gergely Madarasz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> greg> The current php3 package was compiled with apache
> greg> 1.3b3. Since then apache 1.3b5 is available as a debian
> greg> package, i just didnt have time to upload the new php3.deb
> greg> compiled against it... 
> 
> hmm, perhaps you could specify an explicit dependence of the php3
> package on a certain apache package version?  or at least you can echo
> a warning about this issue during postinst, so that the users know...

When I uploaded php 3.0b4 I didnt know that apache 1.3b5 would break
it. It could have worked :)

Greg

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Re: mtools: mmove usage

[David Wright]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:

>  how am I supposed to use mmove?
> 
>  I think it should be called just like mcopy.

Though the syntax may look superficially similar, that's about the only
connection between mmove and mcopy. 

> However, while
>  'mcopy a: /dos/e' works,

Here, /dos/e is on a unix filesystem. About "a:", the documentation says

   fer.  A missing drive  designation  implies  a  Unix  file
   whose  path  starts in the current directory.  If a source
   drive letter is specified with no attached file name (e.g.
   mcopy a: .), all files are copied from that drive.

> 'mmove a: /dos/e' doesn't.

For a start, there's no source file specified. And if it were to take 
that to mean a:*.* (it doesn't), it would necessarily loop: \ goes to 
\dos\e, therefore \dos\e goes to \dos\e\dos\e ad infinitum.
Remember, \dos\e is on a: and not on unix.

> The man
>  page and the info file didn't help.
> 
>  Any hints? Or is it a bug?

Perhaps you read the man page thinking that "move a b" means
"copy a b" and then "delete a". It doesn't.

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re: Printer sharing

[iquest]

Hi All,

  Thanks to all the users replied to my question on Printer sharing.
  Most of you suggested me to use Samba.  I went ahead and install the
  Samba package.  I read some of the document that came with the package

  and I still do not quite get to do what I want.  If anyone of you do
not
  mind, could you send me a step by step procedure :) or could someone
  point me to the doc that could lead me to do this?

1.) I've a HP 6MP laser printer connect to my Linux box.  I'd like
to allow other PC (running Windows/NT) to print thing to it.

2.) How about the reverse,  If I have the printer connected to the
Windows/NT server PC,  how would my Linux box print thing to it?

  After installed the Samba,  I ran this command:
smbstatus
  and I got:
Couldn't open status file /var/lock/samba/STATUS..LCK

  I'm wondering if I need to start some at boot time or something?

  Any help will be greately appreciated.  Thank you very much in
advance!


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dotfile locking, NFS and lockd

[Nelson Posse Lago]

Hi,

Quite some time ago (somewhere around debian 1.1 and 1.2), it was pointed
out (by Miquel Smoorenburg, I think) that while all debian programs
(or all mail related programs?) agree in using dotfile locking, many of
them used the "wrong" function to implement that, since the commonly used
function is not atomic over NFS (meaning locking could fail over NFS on a
busy machine).

So, I'd like to know the status of that; is this solved in 1.3.1? What
about 1.2 (I haven't upgraded yet, I'm lazy ;-) . Or, putting it
differently: can I export my mail spool thru NFS and sleep at night if
all systems involved run debian?

On the same line, I think the new (2.1.x) kernel-supported NFS server is
supposed to have the hooks necessary to implement a really cool lockd for
linux which would solve this kind of problem and allow for reliable NFS
locking among linux and other Unixes etc. Quite misteriously, I don't see
mentions to this when people talk about the improvements of the new
kernels, why is that? And is the lockd really being developed? If so,
should I expect it to be available when the newer kernel "freezes"?

Thanks in Advance,
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My laptop keeps crashing

[Charles Blair]

   I have installed debian on an IBM Thinkpad (model 310ED--- this
seems to be a little-used model, I'm beginning to understand why).
I used the CD's that came with Dale Scheetz's DEBIAN LINUX USER'S GUIDE.

   Most of the system worked as I expected.  However, I have recently
been experiencing crashes, screens going black, and other strange
behavior.  The most recent crash came while I was using emacs (not
from X).

   Suddenly the screen filled with a bunch of stuff I don't understand.
I hope somebody can explain what the excerpts below might mean, and what
I should do about it.

   (pid: 1 process nr: 1 stackpage = 002ad000 )
 Unable to handle kernel paging request at (bunch of zeroes)
 current -> tss.cr3 = 00c5000 %cr3 = 00cc5000
 (then the word STACK followed by a bunch of 8-digit numbers)
 kpde = 0
 Oops: 0003
 CPU: 0
 EIP: 0010 [ < 0010a31b ]
 EEFLAGS: 00010246
 (bunch more junk)
 Process init (pid: 178, process nr: 4, stackpage 00fab00)

 The machine was printing, every 30 seconds or so

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when I turned it off.

 I think lp0 refers to the parallel port, but I don't have a printer
or anything else attached there.

   I have been experiencing difficulty using kermit and trying to get
X to work, but neither of these had been tried during the session involving
the most recent crash, so I suspect the problem may be elsewhere.

   Thanks  very much for any help.

   


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IDE CD-ROM IRQ

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra]

I'm performing an installation from CD-ROM on a Compaq Deskpro 4000
with a CreativeLabs 8x IDE CD-ROM.

During dselect, the machine comes to a crawl (including the other
virtual consoles), almost unusable, and the instalation of each packages
takes minutes. The console is filled by many, many lines of these
messages:

hdb: ATAPI reset complete
hdb: irq timeout: status=0x58

hdb is probably /dev/hdb, which is my CD-ROM drive (the second
device on the first IDE controller.

I installed the CD modules in the kernel without specifying any
parameters.

Can someone give me a hint at what to do? I already looked at the
archives but found nothing...


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Re: Debian-|-Zip

[Alex Yukhimets]

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> On Wed, 4 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > >Does debian/LINUX support zip drives?
> > > 
> > > Yes, all varieties.
> > 
> > Well, Zip Plus plugged into parallel port was not supported last time I
> > checked...
> 
> That's odd, it's worked for me for a while.  You're looking for the ppa
> driver, you probably have to insmod it first, unless you've configured
> /etc/conf.modules correctly.
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tape backup regiment

[Rob Goodwin]

I would like to set up a "fail-safe" backup system for a linux box that
i am putting together for a client of mine.  Ideally the client will
just have to make sure there is a new tape in there every other day and
a cron will take care of backing up the entire 2G drive to tape sometime
when everyone else is sleeping.

In the event of a drive crash I would like to have some kind of a boot
disk handy such that once the drive is replaced they can run a script to
fdisk/format/restore from tape.  Has anyone heard of or done something
like this?  how?

any suggestions on tape hardware? 

thanks,

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sharing a fax/modem with win95

[Rob Goodwin]

Hi there,

Can anyone out there tell me if there is some kind of solution out there
that will let win95 to send a fax through a fax/modem on a linux server? 

thanks for any suggestions,

rob


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Re: New (hamm) afterstep info

[Anthony Fok]

On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 11:28:13AM -, Kevin Traas wrote:
> I'm running the new 1.4 on a few machines here and it's great!  Many changes
> from the previous version.
> 
> ftp the tarball and untar it.  The README/INSTALL provide info on changes
> from the original - however, these files are themselves a little dated
> 
> Anyway, works great and no complaints from my end!

Just like to let you know that there is already a Debian package for
AfterStep 1.4.  That is, if you are using a hamm (pre-2.0, i.e. unstable)
distribution.  :-)  It works great here too.  I love the speed!  :-)

Anthony

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Re: Printer sharing

[Florian Attenberger]

Hi,
> 
> iquest wrote:
 >
 > Hi,
 >
 >   I'd like to know how to share my printer that is connected to
 >   my linux box to other PCs that run Windows/NT on the network.
 >   Currently,  I'm able to ftp from the Windows/NT PC to my linux
 >   box.  So I think my network is working.
 >
 >   Thanks!
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 try the samba-package
 u can export files and printers to win95/NT/3.1 with it
 the printer should work without any printer-specific configuration.


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Re: Kernel Install

[Carroll Kong]

My bad.  Sorry for the misinformation then.  I am new to
Debian... used
to old school Slackware.  

Although it says it will break compilations... it seemed to work fine
for the most part.  But from now on, I will not do it.

Carroll Kong

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Scott Ellis wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Carroll Kong wrote:
> 
> > > tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
> > 
> > technically you forgot..
> > 
> > cd /usr/include
> > rm -rf asm linux scsi
> > ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-386 asm
> > ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
> > ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi
> 
> 
> NO, DON'T DO THIS.  Read /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz or
> /usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.Debian.gz for the reasons why not.
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Re: smail (again..... sheesh..)

[john]

I wrote:
> I have one [a valid hostname].  It just makes things worse, since it isn't
> in my isp's domain.

Michael Beattie writes:
> I gather you mean a valid domain as in being in the DNS?

Yes.

> hehe not my ISP, they are so slack that billing sometimes get
> completly screwed up...

BrightNet is pretty slack too: they can't even get their clocks set right.
Nonetheless, they upgraded sendmail.

> True, but I meant in the situation that with visible_name set to my ISP,
> I would not have to use a smarthost for spam-rejecting sites,...

smart_host has to do with outgoing mail.  So far as I know it has no
relevance to spam.

> ...as it would appear you are masquerading as your ISP,

smart_host just hands off delivery to the smarthost so that their
well-connected machine can do the address lookup, delivery, retries, etc.
The message still goes out with your address.

> ..And using a smarthost, visible_name could be set to your machine's
> name.

The reverse.  If you don't use smart_host you will be delivering every
message directly to the addressed host.  If your address resolves they will
accept the message.  Many will accept it even if the address doesn't
resolve.  When you use smart_host, though, you are asking your ISP to relay
for you.  This causes them to suspect that you might be a spammer, so they
may refuse the message unless the MAIL FROM: address is within their
domain.

I can get mail delivered to addresses in win.bright.net with a MAIL FROM:
of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, but if the destination is outside their domain it has
to say <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
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Re: LI instead of LILO:

[Daniel Mashao]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, C.J.LAWSON wrote:

> I have had this problem before and I almost died of fustration before I
> fixed ... as with most things the solution was pretty simple. For a start
> try using a minimal lilo and requesting the bios to auto detect the hdd at
> boot up. If this fails then do the same thing (auto detect) but specify 
> large, LBA and then normal, in turn ... Large did the trick for me if I
> can remember correctly

I reinstalled about 4 times and then I saw your email and the user.tex for
lilo and it suddenly clicked that you may be right and you were truly
right. I set my drive from normal to AUTO and everything works. The system
works beautifully now.

This info needs to go on the FAQ of LILO. I wonder how many people gave up
just because of this. 
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Re: SCSI controller

[Gary L. Hennigan]

In an article Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| In an article Peter Paluch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no
| > experience in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well
| > with Linux. What do you think of Adaptec and Western Digital?
| 
| Only BusLogic (Mylex) is guranteed to work properly under Linux.

Huh? When did this happen? Certainly Adaptec was part of the first
SCSI support under Linux. I remember using my 1542B (which I still
have in my current Linux box) back in 0.9x Linux days. I also recall
when the BusLogic drivers weren't part of the kernel distribution and
you had to download them separately.

I currently have both an Adaptec 2940UW and 1542B in my linux box and,
other than doing kernel recompiles, I've never even had to think about
the fact that they're in there. They've worked flawlessly.

I do believe that BusLogic controllers, from what I've heard (so it's
only hearsay) have better performance, but are slightly more
expensive.

If you're only running Linux and Win95 I don't think you can go wrong
either way but I'd go with the best performer if I were buying today.

Good Luck!
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Re: Last login info

[Scott Ellis]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, M.C. Bezemer wrote:

> I noticed that redhat 5.0 'remembers' the full host name of my last
> login, while my debian 1.3.1 system gives me only the first 16 characters
> of it. As I didn't yet have the courage to install hamm, my question is,
> will hamm also remember the full hostname of the host I last logged in
> from? (or at least more than 16 characters)

Yes, hamm is capable of providing the longer hostnames.  The format of the
files that keep track of logins was extended by libc6, so a hamm system
will take advantage of that fact.

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Re: SCSI controller

[' ALLAN W. BART]

hi,

i have just purchased an inexpensive advansys fast scsi controller from a
com,pany and it seems that they are very good at working with the linux
community. the firm that i great a good buy from was centrix
international.

thanks,

allan


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Re: Have a question about Debian..

[Steve Mayer]

I also ran across this problem when I tried a hand built MD5SUM from the
source package on sunsite.  Once I replaced it with the Debian copy, the
problems went away.  Check to see if you have more than one copy of
MD5SUM in your path.  

Steve Mayer
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Carey Evans wrote:
> 
> "P. D. Tisdale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I just downloaded all of the "chunks" that make up the Debian Binary CD.
> >
> > I also downloaded the MD5SUM.EXE and MD5SUMS files.  However, when I use
> > MD5SUM to test the chunks, EVERY single one fails!
> 
> A better possibility than that you downloaded in text mode, is that
> you need to run MD5SUM.EXE in binary mode, e.g. (I think)
> 
> C>MD5SUM -b -c MD5SUMS
> 
> But I've never used it under DOS or Windows.
> 
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> 
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Re: Kernel Install

[Scott Ellis]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Carroll Kong wrote:

> > tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
> 
> technically you forgot..
> 
> cd /usr/include
> rm -rf asm linux scsi
> ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-386 asm
> ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
> ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi


NO, DON'T DO THIS.  Read /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz or
/usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.Debian.gz for the reasons why not.

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Re: SCSI controller

[Jeff Noxon]

On Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 09:36:47AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
> > I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
> > in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
> > think of Adaptec and Western Digital?
> 
> Only BusLogic (Mylex) is guranteed to work properly under Linux.

That's certainly untrue, although the BusLogic driver is exceptionally
good -- thanks largely to support from the company.  I've heard that
the DPT driver is also excellent, and AdvanSys is vendor-supported and
should be of high quality.

Adaptec does not support free software, and the driver shows it.  :-)

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Re: Printer sharing

[Ossama Othman]

Hi,
 
>   I'd like to know how to share my printer that is connected to
>   my linux box to other PCs that run Windows/NT on the network.

I'm not sure if this will work with NT machines, but here goes anyway :).

In order to allow a UN*X machine to accept print requests from a remote
machine, you will have to edit your /etc/hosts.lpd file (create one if it
doesn't exist), and add the names (full domain included!) of the hosts you
want to have access to your Linux box's printer.  After that, add the
names of those remote machines to your /etc/hosts file.  Make sure 
the local machine hostname is in the hosts.lpd file, too. Otherwise, you
may not be able to print from your Linux box.  Finally, restart your lpd
daemon. I know that this works for UN*X to UN*X printing.  I really have
no idea if it will work with NT to UN*X printing.

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Re: wu-ftpd and anonymous ftp

[Bob Nielsen]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Jason Ish wrote:

> I'm running hamm and have just installed the wu-ftpd server for the purpose
> of an anonymous ftp account.  I thought I had everything working, or so it
> appeared to work from any command line ftp client (linux/win95), but when a
> friend tried to get to it using wsftp, no directory listing was given to
> him.
> 
> Whats the cause of this and how do I fix it please.  (I did read all the
> docs).

Apparently the libc5 libs were included in this package (also
wu-ftpd-academ) rather than libc6.  There are bug reports on this,
however, and it will hopefully be fixed soon.

The solution (until wu-ftpd gets fixed by the maintainer) was given last
week by Ossama Othman.  It worked for me, but some others seem to be still
having problems.

Run ldd on ls.   For example,

ldd /bin/ls   (you need the absolute path)

You should get output like:

libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4000f000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

Copy the the libraries from the ldd output to ~ftp/lib, or wherever the
above libraries are relative to root (i.e. if in /usr/lib, copy to
~ftp/usr/lib).  Make sure the libraries have a+rx permissions.

HTH,

Bob

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Re: -I- Re: mtools: mmove usage sorry, could not help...

[Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Carroll Kong wrote:

>   I never could get the mtools to have full functionality... especially on
> logical drives in extended partitions for dos.  Is that how you do it?  just 
> do
> a 
> mcopy a: /dos/e?  and it'll hunt for logical partition named E:?  I tried 
> mcopy
> a: e: and no go (a while back in FreeBSD).

Yes, the DOS partition I access with E: under DOS is mounted on /dos/e.
I didn't setup a logical drive 'e:' for mtools under Linux (I'll try later
if that works).
'a:' is associated with /dev/fd0 in mtools.conf (as it is per default
after installing mtools).

> I got around it by just mounting my drives and manually copying them mmove
> should ignore perms and multiple file systems, 
> the mv command freaks out when i move from partition to partition because mved
> file retain old perms... so it makes sense that it'll 'fail' on a destination
> fat drive.

You can work around that, if you mount the FAT drive with option 'quiet'.
However, this isn't the reason for the error message.

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Re: SCSI controller

[D. W. Wieboldt]

On Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 09:36:47AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
> > I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
> > in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
> > think of Adaptec and Western Digital?
> 
> Only BusLogic (Mylex) is guranteed to work properly under Linux.
> 
> Alex Y.
> 
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NCR / Symbios 53c810 works for me, and at 80 bucks or so is probably less
than a buslogic.  There are other supported cards too.

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Re: SCSI controller

[Raymond A. Ingles]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Peter Paluch wrote:

> Hello,
> ==
> 
> I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
> in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
> think of Adaptec and Western Digital?
> 
> Thanks a lot.

 You probably want to ask this question on linux-scsi@vger.rutgers.edu, 
but just to give you a quick summary:

 Adaptec controllers are very common, and perform fairly well, but 
Adaptec does not cooperate with the Linux community, and does not release 
information about their cards. The drivers for Adaptec cards have been 
reverse-engineered. They do seem to work for most people, but other cards 
are better supported.

 I don't know much about Western Digital, but a friend of mine has one 
and has had a lot of trouble getting it to work under Linux. WD does not 
release their specs either. The drivers for WD cards do not seem to be as 
good as for Adaptec.

 Buslogic/Mylex cards *are* supported. Buslogic is very cooperative with 
the Linux community and I have seen many people say that the cards work 
very well.

 I personally have an NCR53c825 card. NCR/Symbios released their 
programming information, too, and the drivers are very good. All the 
NCR53c8xx cards are supported, and most of the NCR53c7xx cards, from what 
I gather. NCR cards are also very cheap - www.swt.com has an ad in the 
Linux Journal to sell an NCR53c810 (Fast SCSI) for $53 (US).

 I have heard that it's hard to get anything but Adaptec in Europe, so 
that may be your only choice. As I said, it does seem to be supported 
fairly well.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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never been finished were abandoned in the hands of their makers,
   because new improvements had superceded their utility."

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Re: Virtual Consoles

[Peter Paluch]

Hello,
==

> I wish to screen to clear after booting my system but using agetty this is not
> possible, I have tried using mingetty and this does what I require, but I am
> wondering if there is anyreason agetty was chosen (i.e Does it support some
> features mingetty does not, when used for virtual consoles)?

I can't answer that question, unfortunately, but I am quite satisfied with
agetty.

If you wish to clear the screen after every logout, it is rather simple and
it can be done by putting this line into /etc/profile:

trap clear EXIT

and it means that when bash catches the EXIT signal it executes clear before
it exits. And so you'll have a perfectly clear screen after every logout.

I do not think it is wise to have your first VC clean immediately after
bootup as you can miss some error messages (and forget to look into
/var/log/messages ;-) .

Everything the best,
Peter

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Re: Debian-|-Zip

[Scott Ellis]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> >Does debian/LINUX support zip drives?
> > 
> > Yes, all varieties.
> 
> Well, Zip Plus plugged into parallel port was not supported last time I
> checked...

That's odd, it's worked for me for a while.  You're looking for the ppa
driver, you probably have to insmod it first, unless you've configured
/etc/conf.modules correctly.

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Lilo v18==>v20 : HULP!

[Kevin Cave]

HELP!

Can't remember what I was doing at the time a month or so ago,

but when I try to run LILO, for it to replace the boot record,

it kind of goes like this.

compaq_4# lilo
First boot sector is version 18. Expecting version 20.
compaq_4#

Any help to get around this is appreciated, folks!

rgds.

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Re: installing packages

[Joost Kooij]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, ANDREW INFANTE wrote:

>  How do you go about installing packages that are gzipped, and don't
>  have .deb extensions?

Ouch! You can't just do that, you need to install Slackware first :-)
But IIRC Slackware is not available as a .deb yet. Maybe someone is
working on it.

No, seriously: you don't need to install tarballs (the "hip" name for a
.tar.gz archive) because.. you can't. They don't fit into the debian
scheme.

What you can do with them, is to unpack them with "tar zxf filename" and
compile the source that comes out of the tarball on your system yourself.
The binaries that are produced are best placed in /usr/local/bin so you
keep apart what you put on the system and what dpkg puts on the system. 

Cheers,


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Re: installing packages

[Peter Paluch]

Hello,
==

>  How do you go about installing packages that are gzipped, and don't
>  have .deb extensions?

If they are only gzipped, then there is only file inside the .gz file, and
you unzip it using gunzip, like :

gunzip name_of_the_file.gz

However, if the files end with .tar.gz or with .tgz, then you have to use
tar to extract files from this archive, and you do it this way:

tar xpzvf name_of_the_file.tar.gz

It is very often better to install a package than to install from these
archives, as they can contain pure source files which you have to compile
and arrange inside your system. In the .deb packages that is already done.

All the best,
Peter

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Re: SCSI controller

[Alex Yukhimets]

> I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
> in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
> think of Adaptec and Western Digital?

Only BusLogic (Mylex) is guranteed to work properly under Linux.

Alex Y.

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Re: disk partitions (part 3) ... :D

[Helmut Leinfellner]

At 11:35 03.03.98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Helmut;
>
>I am not really much of an expert in this sort of problem but would like
>to see if I can help you to have a little better understanding of what
>is going on with your system (as best as I understand anyway)...
>
>The ROM portion of DOS loads and executes the mbr, including accessing
>the disk drive for the mbr code.  Thus for your system to boot, it is
>necessary for the ROM code to be able to find the files needed by lilo
>(the files in /boot).
>
>The was 'created' as a 'normal' disk and not a 'lba' disk.  The ROM code
>then has to use the 'normal' mode to find the files needed by lilo.  If
>you change the mode to 'lba' then when the ROM code interprets the disk
>structure information to produce the block numbers that should be used
>by the drive to seek to the requested files, the resulting numbers are
>NOT the blocks where the files are actually located.
>
>As far as I know the DOS portition of this problem IS not solvable by
>any practical method other than reformating the disk under DOS with the
>mode set to LBA.  It is actually possible to hand edit the disk
>structure information used by the DOS based ROM code and I am told that
>there are people that have done this but it is anything but a trivial
>task!
>
>IF you do not need to have DOS access to this drive (that would include
>Win95 and OS2) you MIGHT be able to do a 'work around'.  First I don't
>KNOW that this will work and can't quite tell from your posting if you
>already have indication that it will not...
>
>IF the ROM code can load and execute the mbr with the CMOS mode set to
>LBA then I think that this will work otherwise it is just a waste of
>your time and effort.  My suggestion is:
>
>Set the CMOS to LBA for the drive (this BTW is something that I CAN NOT
>do on my own system -- if a drive on my system was formatted in normal
>mode then a change to LBA in the CMOS is automatically changed back).
>
>Boot your system using a Linux boot floppy (rescue/installation) if you
>don't have something else.
>
>Run lilo (note that if you boot Linux such that your hard disk is NOT
>the root filesystem (such as is the case with using the
>rescue/installation disk) then it is necessary to tell lilo where the
>normal root partition is currently mounted (see the lilo HOWTO or man
>page) with something like "lilo -r /target" (assuming of course that you
>mounted your normal hard disk Linux root filesystem on the rescue disk's
>ram filesystem on the directory named 'target').
>
>Now AGAIN, I have no idea whether this will work or not.  For this to
>work it is necessary that 1)  the ROM code actually will access the disk
>when there is a mode mismatch and 2) that lilo _uses_ that code to
>determine what the location of the files that are needed during boot
>WILL be.
>
>I was just going to send this to you privately but I believe that it is
>better to subject this to critical review of those that know the lilo
>code as well as the details of exactly how the disk information is used
>and interpreted by the ROM code.
>
>
>-- 
>best,
>-bill



THANKS, Bill !

My vendor just gave me an updated BIOS version for the motherboard I'm usig
(PA2000). Is it a good idea to rewrite the Eprom and then try to boot with
the new BIOS ? Or is this rather dangerous and my old BIOS should work
anyway ?

Helmut


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-I- Re: mtools: mmove usage sorry, could not help...

[Carroll Kong]

I never could get the mtools to have full functionality... especially on
logical drives in extended partitions for dos.  Is that how you do it?  just do
a 
mcopy a: /dos/e?  and it'll hunt for logical partition named E:?  I tried mcopy
a: e: and no go (a while back in FreeBSD). 

I got around it by just mounting my drives and manually copying them mmove
should ignore perms and multiple file systems, 
the mv command freaks out when i move from partition to partition because mved
file retain old perms... so it makes sense that it'll 'fail' on a destination
fat drive.  


Carroll Kong

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>  how am I supposed to use mmove?
> 
>  I think it should be called just like mcopy. However, while
>  'mcopy a: /dos/e' works, 'mmove a: /dos/e' doesn't. The man
>  page and the info file didn't help.
> 
>  Any hints? Or is it a bug?
> 
>  Thank you,
> 
>   Ulf


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Re: Zero Length Files on the CD...

[Carroll Kong]

Hopefully it'll turn to symlinks... he needed to burn with ISO9660 with
Rockridge extensions.  Didn't he say he burned with EZCD Pro?  Mine for Win 95 /
NT had no such option.  They have joliet.. maybe even romeo so he can try to
patch his kernel for fat32 support / joliet (combo patch), and mount the cd-rom.
Semi-primitive, but at least he'll get a lot of the default packages on a fast
medium.

Carroll Kong

On 4 Mar 1998, Carey Evans wrote:

> "P. D. Tisdale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >I'm not sure if this problem is normal for
> > these CDs, but there are quite a few ZERO LENGTH FILES on the CD.  Is
> > this normal or did I do something wrong??  I used EZCD Pro for Windows
> > 3.1, and a 650Mb CD.  (My CD Burner is a Creative Labs 4210).
> 
> Are these files like "FROZEN" amd "STABLE"?
> 
> These will turn into symlinks (like Win95 shortcuts) when you look at
> them in Linux.
> 
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Re: Kernel Install

[Carroll Kong]

Carroll Kong

> tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz

technically you forgot..

cd /usr/include
rm -rf asm linux scsi
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-386 asm
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi

> cd linux
> make mrproper
> make menuconfig
> make dep
> make clean
> make zlilo

you also did not seem to check /etc/lilo.conf

> make modules
> make modules_install
> reboot
> 
> Now, on ANY other machine.. doing a uname -a or checking /proc/version I'd
> have Linux 2.0.33 blah lah lah... But not on this box... it's still saying
> 2.0.29. Now I left the machine running for an hour.. and still.. 2.0.29..
> so I rebooted.. still 2.0.29.. I copied the kernel I compiled to a disk
> and boot the disk in another machine.. kernel 2.0.33. Now I check the
> 'screwed' machine by attacking it with land/teardrop to see if it was just
> a version screw up and it was really running 2.0.33 just not reporting
> it.. and it bombed. 

you mean you thought it was running 2.0.33 because uname -a isn't going to
lie on you.  If uname -a says 2.0.29... you can immediately start thinking
something about this box is different, the computer isnt' going to change
kernels on you.  Try different methods of approach to solve the problem then,
your solutions of leaving it on for an hour did not help, but your land /
teardrop was a good way to confirm the kernel.

> so it's still running 2.0.29. does anyone hve ANY
> ideas about this? I have recompiled, reinstalled, reunpacked and
> redownloaded the kernel multiple times and it still will nt update.

This is how I would do it.. make zImage instead of make zlilo.

*backup /vmlinuz, most likely a link to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29, to something like 
/boot/vmlinuz.old*  

cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /vmlinuz
 
*consider copying to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.33 then recreating the /vmlinuz symlink*

*check /etc/lilo.conf, make sure it is pointing to the right hd and /vmlinuz*

lilo

*check date of /vmlinuz or wherever dest file is.  Since the dest file is
/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29, you might want to change it when you confirm it's file
size and date is different and than vmlinuz.old*

then reboot.  on the other hand, you can check /etc/lilo.conf first... then run
make zlilo.  (considering the other steps as well)

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Re: Compute Farm, Part II (nobody mentioned nfsroot!)

[Terrence Brannon]

I'm suprised no-one has mentioned nfsroot to-date. Based on its docs,
it could do this quite well. But tryin to understand the docs is hell,
and getting it to work even worse, especially when I got no response
to my probs f/the maintainer.

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Re: mtools: mmove usage

[Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, M.C. Bezemer wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> 
> > 
> > The error message is a bug, but DOS-wise "a:" is a non-sensical
> > source; DOS wouldn't accept it for either copy or move.
> > "a:*.*" is the answer but you'd have to quote it. That may or may
> > not be the problem though.

Anyway, it works for mcopy! Using *.* (and quoting it with '"') didn't
help. I haven't tried quoting it with '\', though.

> bug in the routine that finds out with which name mtools is started. Maybe
> this is solved in more recent versions of mtools. This system - not mine -
> seems not to have been updated for quite a while.

I'm using the current mtools package from hamm (3.8-1).

> /home/softweng/i2437307>mmove a:/* /tmp/
> Path component "tmp" is not a directory
> Bad target

It's the same error I get. Obviously, it doesn't depend on the file system
which is mounted on that directory. BTW, the "path component" mentioned in
the error message is always the first path component (ie, /dos/e -> dos).

> /home/softweng/i2437307>mmove a:/* /tmp
> Long file name "tmp" already exists.
> a)utorename A)utorename-all r)ename R)ename-all o)verwrite O)verwrite-all
> s)kip S)kip-all q)uit (aArRoOsSq): q
> 
> Of the two files on the floppy, the first one has been renamed to tmp, and
> therefore the other one cannot be renamed to tmp as well.

I don't think so. This is because you have a /tmp by default.
But if I remember correctly, this overwrite warning is always shown, if you
omit the trailing slash, even if no file or directory of this name exists.
(I can't test it at the moment)

> Another option might be making an entry in /etc/fstab for /dev/fd0 with
> the noauto and user options. Having mounted the floppy, you should be able
> to move files in the std linux way.

Well, this works. But it's too uncomfortable if you want to copy several
floppies one after the other, because you always need to umount one disk
and mount the next.

> Greetings,
>  Maarten Bezemer.

I guess, this is worth a bug report...

Best regards,

  Ulf

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Printer sharing

[iquest]

Hi,

  I'd like to know how to share my printer that is connected to
  my linux box to other PCs that run Windows/NT on the network.

  Currently,  I'm able to ftp from the Windows/NT PC to my linux
  box.  So I think my network is working.

  Thanks!

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Re: Kernel Install

[Henry Hollenberg]

Sounds like maybe you didn't redo your links for vmlinuz in / and didn't
edit lilo.conf (if you want to still have your old kernel available in
emergencys).

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Virtual Consoles

[Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me why debian 1.3.1 uses agetty, instead of something like
mingetty?  

I wish to screen to clear after booting my system but using agetty this is not
possible, I have tried using mingetty and this does what I require, but I am
wondering if there is anyreason agetty was chosen (i.e Does it support some
features mingetty does not, when used for virtual consoles)?

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SCSI controller

[Peter Paluch]

Hello,
==

I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
think of Adaptec and Western Digital?

Thanks a lot.

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installing packages

[ANDREW INFANTE]

 For a linux newbie...

 How do you go about installing packages that are gzipped, and don't
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Re: mtools: mmove usage

[M.C. Bezemer]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> 
> The error message is a bug, but DOS-wise "a:" is a non-sensical
> source; DOS wouldn't accept it for either copy or move.
> "a:*.*" is the answer but you'd have to quote it. That may or may
> not be the problem though.
> 

I've tried some things on the Debian 1.1 system at the university, but it
seems, that mmove and mren have the same result: renaming files on the
disk, not moving it from floppy to a linux directory. I guess it may be a
bug in the routine that finds out with which name mtools is started. Maybe
this is solved in more recent versions of mtools. This system - not mine -
seems not to have been updated for quite a while.

/home/softweng/i2437307>mmove a:/* /tmp/
Path component "tmp" is not a directory
Bad target
/home/softweng/i2437307>mmove a:/* /tmp
Long file name "tmp" already exists.
a)utorename A)utorename-all r)ename R)ename-all o)verwrite O)verwrite-all
s)kip S)kip-all q)uit (aArRoOsSq): q

Of the two files on the floppy, the first one has been renamed to tmp, and
therefore the other one cannot be renamed to tmp as well.
Another option might be making an entry in /etc/fstab for /dev/fd0 with
the noauto and user options. Having mounted the floppy, you should be able
to move files in the std linux way.

Greetings,
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Re: mtools: mmove usage

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 12:55:24PM +0100, Peter Paluch wrote:
> > You might try to use \* instead of * to disable the shell's filename
> > expansion. (I have to do that when I'm in tcsh).
> 
> I don't know about you, but have a look what it complains about:
> 
> frcatel:~$ mmove a: /archive/users/peterp/pokus
> Path component "archive" is not a directory
> Bad target
> 
> This is crazy. I've tried to experiment with the target directory but it
> didn't help.
> 
> I treat this as a bug.

The error message is a bug, but DOS-wise "a:" is a non-sensical
source; DOS wouldn't accept it for either copy or move.
"a:*.*" is the answer but you'd have to quote it. That may or may
not be the problem though.

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Re: mtools: mmove usage

[Peter Paluch]

Hello,
==

> You might try to use \* instead of * to disable the shell's filename
> expansion. (I have to do that when I'm in tcsh).

I don't know about you, but have a look what it complains about:

frcatel:~$ mmove a: /archive/users/peterp/pokus
Path component "archive" is not a directory
Bad target

This is crazy. I've tried to experiment with the target directory but it
didn't help.

I treat this as a bug.

All the best,
Peter

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[john]

I have agreed to package one of the client programs that www.ml.org has for
Debian, but I think that this would best be done by someone who is actually
using the service.  Is there anyone here who is and wants to become a
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Re: mtools: mmove usage

[M.C. Bezemer]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:

> 
>  Thank you for your reply.
> 
> On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Peter Paluch wrote:
> 
> > As I do not use mtools very often, I am not sure if this helps but it does
> > not harm to try out:
> > 
> > mmove a:*.* /dos/whatever
> 
>  Well, I tried that before and it didn't work either.
> 

You might try to use \* instead of * to disable the shell's filename
expansion. (I have to do that when I'm in tcsh).

Good luck!
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Re: mtools: mmove usage

[Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler]

 Thank you for your reply.

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Peter Paluch wrote:

> As I do not use mtools very often, I am not sure if this helps but it does
> not harm to try out:
> 
> mmove a:*.* /dos/whatever

 Well, I tried that before and it didn't work either.

 Best regards,

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Re: making room

[Richard G. Roberto]

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 05:15:18PM -0800, Jim wrote:
> > >Is there a way to check how much space a package is using? I looked
> > >for an option for the "dpkg -l", so that the size of each package
> > >would be shown, but found nothing.
> > 
> > I would _love_ an option like this!! In fact, dselect and/or deity should
> > give me a breakdown of the space that would be used by partition, of each
> > individual package and by any given group of packages.
> 
> Please bring this up on debian-policy; it was only just decided
> to remove the very information from packages that can get you this
> information easily.

I think you are mistaken.  Those du files were silly at
best.  Once we have the .list files containing md5sums and
file sizes this will be even easier, but for now, this
example script should work reasonably well:

#!/usr/bin/perl

my @list, $file, $file_size = 0, $dir_size = 0, $other_size = 0;

chomp(@list = `dpkg -L $ARGV[0]`);

while ($file = shift(@list))
{
if (-f $file) {
$file_size += (stat($file))[7];
}
elsif (-d $file) {
$dir_size += (stat($file))[7];
} else {
$other_size += (stat($file))[7];
}

}

print "bytes used by package $ARGV[0]:\n\t\tfiles $file_size bytes\n";
print "\t\tdirectories $dir_size bytes\n\t\tother $other_size bytes\n";

or anything similar.

Cheers,

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Re: mtools: mmove usage

[Peter Paluch]

Hello,
==

>  how am I supposed to use mmove?

As I do not use mtools very often, I am not sure if this helps but it does
not harm to try out:

mmove a:*.* /dos/whatever

I have not tried it though.

All the best,
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Re: php3 + apache = undefined `table_elts'

[tibor simko]

> "greg" == Gergely Madarasz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

greg> The current php3 package was compiled with apache
greg> 1.3b3. Since then apache 1.3b5 is available as a debian
greg> package, i just didnt have time to upload the new php3.deb
greg> compiled against it... 

hmm, perhaps you could specify an explicit dependence of the php3
package on a certain apache package version?  or at least you can echo
a warning about this issue during postinst, so that the users know...

greg> I'll upload them this week.

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mtools: mmove usage

[Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler]

Hi,

 how am I supposed to use mmove?

 I think it should be called just like mcopy. However, while
 'mcopy a: /dos/e' works, 'mmove a: /dos/e' doesn't. The man
 page and the info file didn't help.

 Any hints? Or is it a bug?

 Thank you,

  Ulf

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Re: Have a question about Debian..

[Carey Evans]

"P. D. Tisdale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just downloaded all of the "chunks" that make up the Debian Binary CD.
> 
> I also downloaded the MD5SUM.EXE and MD5SUMS files.  However, when I use
> MD5SUM to test the chunks, EVERY single one fails!

A better possibility than that you downloaded in text mode, is that
you need to run MD5SUM.EXE in binary mode, e.g. (I think)

C>MD5SUM -b -c MD5SUMS

But I've never used it under DOS or Windows.

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Re: Zero Length Files on the CD...

[Carey Evans]

"P. D. Tisdale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I'm not sure if this problem is normal for
> these CDs, but there are quite a few ZERO LENGTH FILES on the CD.  Is
> this normal or did I do something wrong??  I used EZCD Pro for Windows
> 3.1, and a 650Mb CD.  (My CD Burner is a Creative Labs 4210).

Are these files like "FROZEN" amd "STABLE"?

These will turn into symlinks (like Win95 shortcuts) when you look at
them in Linux.

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Re: making room

[Carey Evans]

"Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there a way to check how much space a package is using? I looked
> for an option for the "dpkg -l", so that the size of each package
> would be shown, but found nothing.

There's no built in way.  However, I'd suggest something like:

% dpkg -L octave | xargs ls -lsd | awk '{sum+=$1} END{print sum}'
6114

So octave is using just less than 6 M of disk space, not counting any
extra files it created after being installed.

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Re: Zero Length Files on the CD...

[tko]

P. D. Tisdale writes:
> 
> I have another problem.. I have downloaded and tested all of the chunks
> that make up the Debian Binary CD.  Also have put them together as
> stated in the instructions  (yes I connected them in order).  Lastly, I
> burned the CD.  However, I'm not sure if this problem is normal for
> these CDs, but there are quite a few ZERO LENGTH FILES on the CD.  Is
> this normal or did I do something wrong??  I used EZCD Pro for Windows
> 3.1, and a 650Mb CD.  (My CD Burner is a Creative Labs 4210).

This is normal. Windows(3.x) doesn't have a clue as to how to handle
a symlink. Most likely, the zero-length files are symlinks to other parts of
the CDrom file structure. Have you tried mounting the CD under Linux and
checking it there?

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Re: I need help

[Ivan & Ines Rojas]

First, thanks to all the people that has posted to this thread.

Second, I want to explain some point here. I have Debian 1.3.1 with ppp
installed from the 1.3.1 cd ( ppp_2_2... don't remember ) and I found the
pon and poff files.

I checked my ppp.chatscript and ppp.options_out scripts according to the
sugestions here, but when I type pon I got nothing, and off course poff
returns "no pppd running".

I also tryed dialing directly to my ISP using minicom and I got this:
ii
Entering PPP Mode
IP Address is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
MTU is 

That's it!

I was told by my ISP tech. support that they use PAP. I think I modified the
options file according to the Robert Hart's howto
 http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO.html ) but I may be wrong or I
just did it wrong! ( that's for sure! ;-)

Any ideas? Am I in the right path?

Thanks again to all of you.

Ivan


-Original Message-
From: Bill Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ivan & Ines Rojas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: I need help


>I presume that you installed the 'bo' or stable release (ver 1.3.1) and
>that you installed close to the latest packages...
>
>ppp-on and ppp-off were replaced with /usr/bin/pon and /usr/bin/poff.
>
>Have you determined if your ISP uses PAP or CHAP?
>Do you have to login with a 'username' or 'account' and 'password'?
>
>Have you tried loggin in with a term program such as miniterm yet?
>
>
>Unfortunately, the HOWTOs were originally write almost exclusively from
>the standpoint of a Slackware distribution.  People using debian,
>redhat, caldera, unifix, (as far as I know even slackware now), and
>other distributions are sometime mislead in various ways by the HOWTOs.
>
>Debian, in particular differs from the the specifics of the HOWTO.  This
>deviation is not done 'just to be different' and indeed the entire Linux
>community often eventually adopts the 'debian way'.
>
>The debian effort is intended to produce a system that is upgradeable
>with minimum impact on your configuration (and thus on you!).  However,
>to do that usually requires that the debian distribution does things a
>little bit differently than some of the other distributions have done
>things in the past.
>
>Unlike DOS and a number of other operating systems, Unix/Linux is pretty
>famous for allowing users (and system administrators where applicable)
>to choose many different ways to accomplish a given task.
>
>As a practical matter, some restraint must be imposed upon system
>administration if it is to be possible to produce a package mainenance
>system that can upgrade packages while retaining the specific
>configuration that you choose to run.
>
>Thus, debian differs a bit from other distributions because alteration
>that you make to your system should comply with the 'debian way' or
>future upgrades could fail to properly install (in most of those cases
>you would have to do your configuration over again).
>
<...>
>
>--
>best,
>-bill
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Last login info

[M.C. Bezemer]

Hi,

I noticed that redhat 5.0 'remembers' the full host name of my last
login, while my debian 1.3.1 system gives me only the first 16 characters
of it. As I didn't yet have the courage to install hamm, my question is,
will hamm also remember the full hostname of the host I last logged in
from? (or at least more than 16 characters)

Greetings,
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Re: forwarded message from Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

[Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella]

Manoj Srivastava writes:

> Hi,
>>> "Luiz" == Luiz Otavio L Zorzella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Luiz> I posted this question in debian-user list, and was advised to
Luiz> post in this list, because you have supposedelly just decided to
Luiz> remove from the .deb packages a feature that would allow this to
Luiz> be accomplished.

>   Firstly, it was decided that to implement the feature, we
>  would need data in a different format than was previously included in
>  the packages. We just have not yet put the solution into the policy
>  document yet (we do have an implementation).

>   In the meanwhile, instead of dpkg -l; try this; used with no
>  arguments, it gives the size of all installed packages, 

__> ./pkg-size.pl  

Your script is just what I needed! I'd suggest (since it looks to be
pretty simple) to incorporate this functionality in dpkg. People will
like it!

THANKS!

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Re: forwarded message from Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
>>"Luiz" == Luiz Otavio L Zorzella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Luiz> I posted this question in debian-user list, and was advised to
Luiz> post in this list, because you have supposedelly just decided to
Luiz> remove from the .deb packages a feature that would allow this to
Luiz> be accomplished.

Firstly, it was decided that to implement the feature, we
 would need data in a different format than was previously included in
 the packages. We just have not yet put the solution into the policy
 document yet (we do have an implementation).

In the meanwhile, instead of dpkg -l; try this; used with no
 arguments, it gives the size of all installed packages, 

__> ./pkg-size.pl  
gnushogi:   560
libhdf4g-dev:   906
wdiff:   58
 [snipped]

With a space separated list pf package names; it gives:

__>  ./pkg-size.pl  make gcc lynx
lynx:  1269
make:   305
gcc:   4968


I hope this is satisfactory in the interim.

manoj

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use diagnostics;

use vars qw(%Need);
my $select = 0;

for (@ARGV) {
  $select = 1;
  $Need{$_} = 1;
}

$/="";
open (PKGS, "/var/lib/dpkg/status") || die "Could not read status: $!";
my $size = 0;
 while () {
   next unless m/Status: install ok installed/o;
   my ($pkg)  = m/Package:\s*(\S+)/io;
   my ($size) = m/Installed-Size:\s*(\d+)/io;
   next unless $pkg;
   next unless $size;
   if ($select) {
 next unless $Need{$pkg};
   }
   print "$pkg:",  " " x (50 - length($pkg) - length($size)), "$size\n";
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broken manpages-dev

[Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella]

I just installed manpages-dev_1.18-2.deb, and I had to uninstall it,
because it breaks my man. It stalls updating the cache, untill I have
to CTRL-C it...

Anyone else?

Look:

nr# dpkg -i manpages-dev_1.18-2.deb 
Selecting previously deselected package manpages-dev.
(Reading database ... 28709 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking manpages-dev (from manpages-dev_1.18-2.deb) ...
Setting up manpages-dev (1.18-2) ...
nr# man bogus
Updating index cache for path `/usr/man'. Wait...



man: can't remove /tmp/zman21458aaa: Bad file descriptor
nr# dpkg --purge manpages-dev
(Reading database ... 29349 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing manpages-dev ...
nr# man bogus
Updating index cache for path `/usr/man'. Wait...done.
No manual entry for bogus


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XNTPD problem

[Martin Madlik]

Hi,
  I have folowing problem
  I'm using "Debian 2.0" with 2.0.33 kernel and now I'm trying to set up xntpd.
my /etc/ntp looks like this :

logfile /var/log/xntpd
driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
statsdir /var/log/ntpstats/

statistics loopstats peerstats clockstats
filegen loopstats file loopstats type day enable
filegen peerstats file peerstats type day enable
filegen clockstats file clockstats type day enable

server rac.cesnet.cz
server rab.cesnet.cz
server tae.anet.cz

And now if a write :
xntpd -d
server answer :
tick = 1, tickadj = 5, hz = 100
kernel vars: tickadj = 5, tick = 1
adj_precision = 1, tvu_maxslew = 495, tsf_maxslew = 0.002070b9
create_sockets(123)
bind() fd 4, family 2, port 123, addr , flags=1
bind() fd 5, family 2, port 123, addr 7f01, flags=1
bind() fd 6, family 2, port 123, addr c0a80b01, flags=1
bind() fd 7, family 2, port 123, addr c0a80c01, flags=1
bind() fd 8, family 2, port 123, addr c34b421a, flags=0
init_io: maxactivefd 8
resolving rac.cesnet.cz
resolving rab.cesnet.cz
resolving tae.anet.cz
report_event: system event 'event_restart' (0x01) status 'sync_alarm, 
sync_unspec, 1 event, event_unspec' (0xc010)

And hangs in memory.


Don't you know how resolve this bad problem ?


Thanx  Marty


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Is there HA (High Availability) like solution ?

[whkye]

Hi !

I'd like to bind two debian stations by using HA like solution.
I belive that it could be the tolerant system.
Where can I find it?

Thanks for any small help

whkye


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Re: smail (again..... sheesh..)

[Michael Beattie]

On 3 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Michael Beattie writes:
> > What I would like to know is what are peoples opinion's on their own
> > configurations, and what the pro's and con's are. One I can think of;
> > Daniel's rewriting of /etc/smail/config every login,...
> 
> I may try that.
> 
> > ... versus having visible_name set to your ISP's domain,...
> 
> That is what I am doing now, but I don't like it.  It would be fine if I
> could get smail to use my complete popmail name, though.  Can sendmail do
> that?
> 
> > ...to have a valid hostname.
> 
> I have one.  It just makes things worse, since it isn't in my isp's domain.

I gather you mean a valid domain as in being in the DNS??
 
> > What would people suggest in my situation, where my ISP's SMTP server
> > does not mind invalid hostnames?
> 
> That may change.

hehe not my ISP, they are so slack that billing sometimes get
completly screwed up...
 
> > should I just use it as a smarthost, and forget about visible_name?
> 
> Those are unrelated.

True, but I meant in the situation that with visible_name set to my ISP, I
would not have to use a smarthost for spam-rejecting sites, as it would
appear you are masquerading as your ISP, which has a valid hostname on the
DNS... And using a smarthost, visible_name could be set to your machine's
name.
 
> > I have not understood how to set up a smarthost, how is this done?
> 
> In /etc/routers I have:
> 
> smart_host:
> driver=smarthost, transport=smtp;
> path=bucky.win.bright.net

Thanks I'll give that a go...


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Re: LI instead of LILO:

[C.J.LAWSON]

I have had this problem before and I almost died of fustration before I
fixed ... as with most things the solution was pretty simple. For a start
try using a minimal lilo and requesting the bios to auto detect the hdd at
boot up. If this fails then do the same thing (auto detect) but specify 
large, LBA and then normal, in turn ... Large did the trick for me if I
can remember correctly

Let us know how you got on 

Regards

Jonathan

On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Adam Shand wrote:

> 
> > I just installed a new Debian system. I had to copy the base1 disk X times
> > on Y disks to get Debian to install. But now I get a LI instead of the
> > expected LILO:
> > What can I do without having to do a complete reinstall?
> 
> for me the only thing that has ever caused this (there are almost
> certainly other reasons though) is when i've been playing with bios and
> what type of hard drive it thinks it is.
> 
> you'll have to excuse me i'm having a momentary brain fart and can't think
> of the words i want but the bit i mean is at the far right of the bios
> display and the options are "normal", "large" and "LBA" (i think thats
> correct anyway).
> 
> your harddrive was possibly formatted with one option and bios is trying
> another.  just reboot and change it until it works (remember what it was
> originally set to in case it is something else!!!)
> 
> adam.
> 
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Re: crt1.c

[C.J.LAWSON]

If I remember clearly, the file you allude to crt1.o must necessarily
exist for gcc to function properly. I once did a "find .. '*.o' -exec rm
\{} \; ..." to clean my system and found myself in hot water when I tried
to exec gcc. I was pretty new to Linux then and had to go a-begging the
chap upstairs, who I wasn't too keen on and gave me loads of lip before he
let me find and copy the files off his system. By some stroke of luck it
worked ... Tell me, have you been cleaning your system out??

Regards

Jonathan

On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Bill Leach wrote:

> This is just a bit of guessing here.  It sounds like your messages have
> to do with trying to compile crt1.o.  However, there are lots of other
> possibilties.  It could be that the makefile uses command/syntax not
> recognized by GNUmake
> 
> Do you know what the function of crt1.o is?  It is possible that this
> file will not compile under Linux if it is specific to Irix (at least
> not without some 'porting' effort).
> 
> 
> Bruce Dobrin wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm trying to compile a tool from Irix,  What I'm currently getting is a 
> > syntax type error in something called "crt1.o"  checked the source and the 
> > original stable release and it is distributed as crt1.o.  Does anyone know 
> > what this is and where I can get the uncompiled code?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Bruce Dobrin
> > Multi Media Dept.
> > Sony Pictures Imageworks
> > 310-840-8412
> 
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Re: How to remove Boot block

[Carey Evans]

Pascal MIQUET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've install Linux with LiLO as super boot block.
> 
> I'd like to change it and make only LiLO for my LiNUX partition.
> 
> How can I remove this kind of information on ms SCSI PS/2 boot disk !

Look in /boot.  There should be a file like "boot.0800" - the number
depends on the device.

Type "lilo -u /dev/sda" to copy the saved boot sector back.  Edit
lilo.conf appropriately and rerun lilo with the new setup.  You might
need to do something like "activate /dev/sda 1" to make the right
partition boot.

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Re: wu-ftpd and anonymous ftp

[Ben Gertzfield]

"Jason Ish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm running hamm and have just installed the wu-ftpd server for the purpose
> of an anonymous ftp account.  I thought I had everything working, or so it
> appeared to work from any command line ftp client (linux/win95), but when a
> friend tried to get to it using wsftp, no directory listing was given to
> him.

There are some problems with the current wu-ftpd package. I'd try
the proftpd package instead, which is much easier to set up and
probably more secure.

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wu-ftpd and anonymous ftp

[Jason Ish]

I'm running hamm and have just installed the wu-ftpd server for the purpose
of an anonymous ftp account.  I thought I had everything working, or so it
appeared to work from any command line ftp client (linux/win95), but when a
friend tried to get to it using wsftp, no directory listing was given to
him.

Whats the cause of this and how do I fix it please.  (I did read all the
docs).

Thanks
jason



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Re: Kernel Install

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,

There is not enough information to make a judgement. Please
 provide the following:
% ls -asCF /lib/modules
% ls -als /
% ls -asCF /boot

BTW, on Debian, kernel-package offers a simple, convenient way
 of upgrading and maintianing severl different versions of the kernel
 on your machine concurrently. (/usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz
 should be helpful). 

manoj
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