KDE 1.0 packages?

1998-08-06 Thread Young, Ed


I installed kdebase, kdeutils, kdegraphics, etc, by finding the packages at
the debian website. I installed and it works, but there are some problems
related to permissions, and most problematic, there are many missing help
files. 

How do I figure out whether I have kde 1.0 or a beta? 

What is the best way to upgrade the whole kde "suite" to 1.0? 

Thanx, 

Ed



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Lilo Source

1998-08-06 Thread Dennis Dixon
I am trying to find the Lilo source files.  I'm sure they must be available
somewhere but I'm not sure where to look.  (As far as I can tell they're not
in the kernel source code or in a separate package in the devel section of
the debian download archive.)

Incidentally, I wanted to look at these files because I'm trying to figure
out how to work the "Flux Operating System Toolkit" from the University of
Utah. If anyone has any tips on how to use this package I'd be very
interested.  For instance, do I need to set up a separate partition to try
out their sample kernels?  Should I just add an entry to lilo.conf to run
their sample? Etc..

Thanks for any help someone might have.
Dennis Dixon
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Re: Where's bo?

1998-08-06 Thread David B. Teague
George

Thanks for the URLs for Bo. Seriously though, how
long will this distribution be out there?  6 months 
would be more than enough for our needs.

David

On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, George Bonser wrote: 

> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 14:30:42 -0700 (PDT)

> On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> Where's bo? 

> > ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/debian/dists/bo/
> > ftp://debian.midco.net/debian/Archive/
> > http://debian.midco.net/debian/Archive/
> > ftp://ftp.fifi.org/pub/debian/bo/
> > http://www.fifi.org/debian/bo/
> 
> 
> ftp://ftp.shorelink.com/debian/bo
> 
> is yet another.
> 
> George Bonser
> 
> Given enough time and money, Microsoft will invent Linux.

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Re: Where's bo?

1998-08-06 Thread David B. Teague

Tres, and all:

I find myself in the boat with Tres as well. We are trying to find a CD
of snapshot of what 1.3.1r-most recent was. There are sites who still
have bo, but for how long? 

Would that something could be done. What do redhat and suse do about
upgrades and recent distributions?

--David

On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Tres Hofmeister wrote:

> Subject: Where's bo?
>[...] 
>   Where can I find the bo distribution?  It seems to have
> been removed from ftp.debian.org and its mirrors.  I'm definitely
> heading toward hamm; I've been running it on my desktop for a couple
> of months.  
[...] 
>   If Debian would like to see wide use in institutions like ours,
> we need support for the previous release(s) until upgrades are possible.
> I think it's a great fit, otherwise!
> 
>   Sorry if I sound cranky! ;)  Any info. would be appreciated.
> Thanks...

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(no subject)

1998-08-06 Thread Sean Johnson
Help


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Re: A question about an include file.

1998-08-06 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
__P is basically a macro that lets the declaration work with both K&R-style and 
ANSI C
compilers. I haven't looked at it directly but it's something like

#if (K_AND_R)
#define __P(x) x
#elif (ANSI_C)
#define __P(x)
#endif

__const is likewise a macro, probably to work with compilers which don't like 
const.

There are info pages for the C Preprocessor if you're intested in syntax. I 
doubt
there's any documentation per se for these conventions used by the C library 
headers.

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> /usr/include/errno.h, means :
>
> extern void perror __P ((__const char* __s));
>
> As I understand it, it means that perror is defined in an external file and
> returns a void type. But what are the __P, and __const ? And why there are 2
> sets of brackets, and not only 1 ?
> Where does these constructs being documented ?

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Re: non-US status? stable->bo

1998-08-06 Thread Kevin Traas
>| So, we're a few hours away from *two* weeks since hamm was officially
>| released as Debian 2.0.
>|
>| **HOWEVER**, nonus.debian.org still has stable pointed to bo and
>| hamm identified as frozen.
>|
>| Any ideas on when this will be updated?
>
>Huh? Where are you looking?


Same server, but in /pub/debian-non-US.I just checked it.  It's as I
said

>If you're not using /debian/dists then you're using an old directory
>structure.


I guess that's what I'm doing, but... Is that any fault of mine   If the
dir structure is old, then it should be nuked!  Not left lying around for
unsuspecting newbies to get confused with

Later,
Kevin


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A question about an include file.

1998-08-06 Thread shaul
Could someone explain what the following line, which is taken from 
/usr/include/errno.h, means :

extern void perror __P ((__const char* __s));

As I understand it, it means that perror is defined in an external file and 
returns a void type. But what are the __P, and __const ? And why there are 2 
sets of brackets, and not only 1 ?
Where does these constructs being documented ?

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Re: non-US status? stable->bo

1998-08-06 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
"Kevin Traas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| So, we're a few hours away from *two* weeks since hamm was officially
| released as Debian 2.0.
| 
| **HOWEVER**, nonus.debian.org still has stable pointed to bo and
| hamm identified as frozen.
| 
| Any ideas on when this will be updated?

Huh? Where are you looking?

% ftp nonus.debian.org
ftp> cd /debian/dists
ftp> ls -l

200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 8
drwxr-xr-x   5 1000 100  1024 Jul 28 04:14 .
drwxr-xr-x  11 1000 root 1024 Aug  6 20:58 ..
-r--r--r--   1 1000 100   162 Jul 23 12:10 README
lrwxrwxrwx   1 1000 100 7 Mar 25 07:05 hamm -> ../hamm
drwxr-xr-x   5 1000 100  1024 Jul 25 04:32 sid
drwxr-xr-x   5 1000 100  1024 Aug  6 14:20 slink
lrwxrwxrwx   1 1000 100 4 Jul 25 23:57 stable -> hamm
drwxr-xr-x   2 1000 100  3072 Aug  6 14:12 stable-updates
lrwxrwxrwx   1 1000 100 5 Mar 25 22:14 unstable -> slink
226 Transfer complete.

Frozen isn't even in there any more!

If you're not using /debian/dists then you're using an old directory
structure.

| Also, incoming-non-US is pretty full of stuff, too  Will this stuff be
| moved over to hamm any time soon?

Don't know anything about this one.

Gary


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Re: Where's bo?

1998-08-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Tres Hofmeister wrote:

:   Where can I find the bo distribution?  It seems to have
: been removed from ftp.debian.org and its mirrors.  I'm definitely
: heading toward hamm; I've been running it on my desktop for a couple
: of months.  But I've got 75 or so Debian 1.3.1 systems to maintain in
: the mean time, many out at field sites (air traffic control towers,
: etc.) running in an operational mode.  OS upgrades for these systems
: are simply out of the question, in most cases for months.  Yet they
: still need the occasional package, and a new system with the same OS
: (1.3.1) is still required occasionally.
: 
:   I understand the value of moving to the new release, but this
: is a simple maintenance issue.  I've got a 1.3.1 CD, but now I can't
: get any 1.3.1 updates, and there were many.  I remember being shocked
: when 1.2 disappeared, but I thought by now the value of keeping the
: previous release around would be clear.  I even sent a note to the
: Debian mirror info. address several months back asking about this,
: but never got a response.
: 
:   If Debian would like to see wide use in institutions like ours,
: we need support for the previous release(s) until upgrades are possible.
: I think it's a great fit, otherwise!
: 
:   Sorry if I sound cranky! ;)  Any info. would be appreciated.
: Thanks...

ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/debian/dists/bo/
ftp://debian.midco.net/debian/Archive/
http://debian.midco.net/debian/Archive/
ftp://ftp.fifi.org/pub/debian/bo/
http://www.fifi.org/debian/bo/

are a few I know of.

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Where's bo?

1998-08-06 Thread Tres Hofmeister
Where can I find the bo distribution?  It seems to have
been removed from ftp.debian.org and its mirrors.  I'm definitely
heading toward hamm; I've been running it on my desktop for a couple
of months.  But I've got 75 or so Debian 1.3.1 systems to maintain in
the mean time, many out at field sites (air traffic control towers,
etc.) running in an operational mode.  OS upgrades for these systems
are simply out of the question, in most cases for months.  Yet they
still need the occasional package, and a new system with the same OS
(1.3.1) is still required occasionally.

I understand the value of moving to the new release, but this
is a simple maintenance issue.  I've got a 1.3.1 CD, but now I can't
get any 1.3.1 updates, and there were many.  I remember being shocked
when 1.2 disappeared, but I thought by now the value of keeping the
previous release around would be clear.  I even sent a note to the
Debian mirror info. address several months back asking about this,
but never got a response.

If Debian would like to see wide use in institutions like ours,
we need support for the previous release(s) until upgrades are possible.
I think it's a great fit, otherwise!

Sorry if I sound cranky! ;)  Any info. would be appreciated.
Thanks...

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non-US status? stable->bo

1998-08-06 Thread Kevin Traas
So, we're a few hours away from *two* weeks since hamm was officially
released as Debian 2.0.

**HOWEVER**, nonus.debian.org still has stable pointed to bo and
hamm identified as frozen.

Any ideas on when this will be updated?

Also, incoming-non-US is pretty full of stuff, too  Will this stuff be
moved over to hamm any time soon?

Regards,
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Re: xfstt 0.9.9-5 is not serving for some reason.

1998-08-06 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 11:49:02AM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote:
> Adding FontPath "unix/:7101" solved the problem. I don't know why the
> xfstt installation doesn't put this in there for you automatically,

well...as the xfstt maintainer I will say this...
adding the fontpath to XF86Config would be a bad idea. xfstt can not do 
this itself.

If you installed it as part of a massive installation and had no fonts
ready to go...it would be a "Bad Thing". If xfstt wasn't properly
ready and started (which since xfstt can't come with any fonts it
can't be setup and running automatically) and its in the
fontpath...the xserver wont run.

> or
> at least tell you to do it after adding ttf fonts to the proper
> directory, but it should. 

yes it should...this is wishlist bug#22912 (originally opened 68 days ago)
I am working on this...will hopefully be in the next upload
(with hopefully the final bug squashing for the init.d script)

> Also, why the switch to unix/:7101? Because
> unix/:7100 conflicts with xfs (though I never had problems)? 

yes that is why it was moved. I wanted to move it for a while then
bug# 24238 came along and I realized I wasn't the only one wanting it
changed...so I did it.

> Say, when
> is someone going to package xfsft for Debian anyways?

hmmm I thought about it once. I chose to package xfstt because it was easier.
the main problem right now with xfsft is xbase.

I read on the X Strike Force Web page (I forget the URL) about plans to
split up xbase so that xdm, xfs etc are separate packages...that will make
xfstft much easier to package I think (since it is a full replacement for
xfs)

hope this info helps...and I will be working on adding some notification
(tho it is all in the docs ;) ...one of the reasons I took over
xfstt was because it didn't have hardly any docs in /usr/doc/xfstt)

-Steve

> Remco van de Meent wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Christopher Barry wrote:
> > 
> >  : I recently grabbed the latest xfstt from Slink and I removed the old
> >  : xfstt first before upgrading (maybe this is where I went wrong).
> >  : Anyways, the new xfstt installed without giving any error messages but
> >  : when I started X and Netscape, Netscape was no longer using truetype
> >  : fonts and I could no longer select them from edit -> preferences ->
> >  : fonts. I looked at my XF86Config file and noticed there was no longer a
> >  : FontPath "unix/:7100" entry but adding one just made X fail to start
> >  : (could not open default font "fixed" error or something like that). I
> >  : rebooted also before trying all of this again and xfstt starts up just
> >  : fine at boot time so I'm clueless here.
> > 
> > I'm using the same xfstt and it works for me. Are you sure the fonts are
> > still in place, as you said your removed your old xfstt?
> > 
> > I'm running a 'normal' xfs on port 7100, and xfstt on 7101. So I specified
> > both in XF86Config.
> > 
> > Good luck,
> >  -Remco
> 
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Re: Colors

1998-08-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 09:13:52PM +0200, Remco van de Meent wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> 
>  :   set_prompt ()
>  :   {
>  : local SAVE_CRS=`tput sc 2> /dev/null`
>  : local RESET_CRS=`tput rc 2> /dev/null`
>  : local CLOCKPOS=`tput cup 0 90 2> /dev/null`
>  : local FOREG=`tput setf 6 2> /dev/null` 
>  : local ALT_FOREG=`tput setf 3 2> /dev/null`
>  : local BACKG=`tput setb 0 2> /dev/null`
>  : local NORMAL=`tput sgr0 2> /dev/null`
>  : local BOLD=`tput bold 2> /dev/null`
>  : 
>  : PS1="\[${NORMAL}${SAVE_CRS}${CLOCKPOS}${FOREG}${BACKG}${BOLD} \@ 
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>  :   }
>  :   set_prompt
> 
> Doesn't this execute those tput's everytime a new prompt has to be generated
> (i.e. after every command) ?

No. set_prompt is executed once (in my startup file), and the local
variables store the escape sequences only while setup_prompt is running.

The `...` will execute tput and store the ouput in the local variables. Then
this output is used to put together the prompt. The prompt does contain the
real escape sequences and is itself not portable to other terminals.

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Re: Colors

1998-08-06 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

 :   set_prompt ()
 :   {
 : local SAVE_CRS=`tput sc 2> /dev/null`
 : local RESET_CRS=`tput rc 2> /dev/null`
 : local CLOCKPOS=`tput cup 0 90 2> /dev/null`
 : local FOREG=`tput setf 6 2> /dev/null` 
 : local ALT_FOREG=`tput setf 3 2> /dev/null`
 : local BACKG=`tput setb 0 2> /dev/null`
 : local NORMAL=`tput sgr0 2> /dev/null`
 : local BOLD=`tput bold 2> /dev/null`
 : 
 : PS1="\[${NORMAL}${SAVE_CRS}${CLOCKPOS}${FOREG}${BACKG}${BOLD} \@ [EMAIL 
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 :   }
 :   set_prompt

Doesn't this execute those tput's everytime a new prompt has to be generated
(i.e. after every command) ?

 -Remco


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Re: Colors

1998-08-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 11:45:40AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> 
> In your .bash_profile or similar, enter a line like:
> PS1=^V[[33;1m This is my prompt

I think you have to make bash know that those are not really printed
characters, or you may get problems with line breaking, deletion of
characters and so on. At least you have to do it when you move things around
(I have the date printed in the upper right corner, for example).

You can do this by using \[ and \] around the escape sequence.

More portable is it when you query the terminal capabilities:

  set_prompt ()
  {
local SAVE_CRS=`tput sc 2> /dev/null`
local RESET_CRS=`tput rc 2> /dev/null`
local CLOCKPOS=`tput cup 0 90 2> /dev/null`
local FOREG=`tput setf 6 2> /dev/null` 
local ALT_FOREG=`tput setf 3 2> /dev/null`
local BACKG=`tput setb 0 2> /dev/null`
local NORMAL=`tput sgr0 2> /dev/null`
local BOLD=`tput bold 2> /dev/null`

PS1="\[${NORMAL}${SAVE_CRS}${CLOCKPOS}${FOREG}${BACKG}${BOLD} \@ [EMAIL 
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  }
  set_prompt

This will print a yellow user name, followed by normat hostname, ":" and
path + final "$ ". It will also print a cyan clock hh:mmXX, where XX is
wither "am" or "pm".

See "man tput" and other man pages referenced from there.

Marcus


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Re: [Debian]: Wann kommt die Debian 2.0 - CD

1998-08-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Aug 05, 1998 at 12:53:21PM -0600, Gary L. Hennigan wrote:
> Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | On 5 Aug 1998, Jens Ritter wrote:
> | 
> | > Please: This is an englisch speaking mailing list. Thanks,
> | 
> | Some German on the list and even other languages contribute to the variety
> | on the list.  I like it.
> 
> Well, you may enjoy it but I think it would've been more appropriately 
> posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sure the original poster would've 
> gotten a much better response too.

The thread started on exactly this list, and was moved by accident. I
respnded without checking the adress (as I thought it was still on
debian-user-de [i have a threaded mail reader]).

I agree that this list is english only.

FYI, the two mails had this content: Q: "Sorry, but wasn't it LSL and not
infomagic"" A:"Oh, yes. *ups* I apoligize."

Marcus

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Re: samba: encrypted passwords

1998-08-06 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:50:26 +1000 (EST) Chris  writes:
> 
> Hi,
> I was wondering if there is a way to configure samba to do the following:
> 
> - Accept unencrypted login passwords
> - Update the smbpasswd file by encrypting unencrypted passwords
> - Accept enrypted passwords that are in the smbpasswd file
> 
> Thanks,

You can find infos on all topics in the
/usr/doc/samba/ENCRYPTION.txt.gz file.  You should at least install
version >= 1.9.18alpha1 because in these version the DES support is
compiled into samba.

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Re: xfstt 0.9.9-5 is not serving for some reason.

1998-08-06 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Christopher Barry wrote:

 : Adding FontPath "unix/:7101" solved the problem. I don't know why the
 : xfstt installation doesn't put this in there for you automatically, or at
 : least tell you to do it after adding ttf fonts to the proper directory,
 : but it should. Also, why the switch to unix/:7101? Because unix/:7100
 : conflicts with xfs (though I never had problems)? Say, when is someone
 : going to package xfsft for Debian anyways?

I need to specify on which ports xfstt is running myself (using the --port
option), as xfs runs on 7100. Strange that it does work w/o specifying :-)

By the way, what is "xfsft" ?

 -Remco

 : >  : I recently grabbed the latest xfstt from Slink and I removed the old
 : >  : xfstt first before upgrading (maybe this is where I went wrong). 
 : >  : Anyways, the new xfstt installed without giving any error messages
 : >  : but when I started X and Netscape, Netscape was no longer using
 : >  : truetype fonts and I could no longer select them from edit ->
 : >  : preferences -> fonts. I looked at my XF86Config file and noticed
 : >  : there was no longer a FontPath "unix/:7100" entry but adding one
 : >  : just made X fail to start (could not open default font "fixed" error
 : >  : or something like that). I rebooted also before trying all of this
 : >  : again and xfstt starts up just fine at boot time so I'm clueless
 : >  : here.
 : > 
 : > I'm using the same xfstt and it works for me. Are you sure the fonts
 : > are still in place, as you said your removed your old xfstt?
 : > 
 : > I'm running a 'normal' xfs on port 7100, and xfstt on 7101. So I
 : > specified both in XF86Config.


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Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)

1998-08-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: At around Thu, 06 Aug 1998 18:15:20 +0900,
:  I may have mentioned:
: 
: [discussion about installing debian on a thinkpad 770 ed snipped]
: 
: > i just realized that i'd been using a 2.0.35 zimage on a 2.0.34 rescue
: > disk...perhaps this was the cause of the initial console error message.
: > i am recompiling a 2.0.34 zimage now.
: 
: i tried this but i got the same error message:
: 
:   Unable to open an initial console.
: 
: :-(
: 
: is there anything else i should do to the rescue disk perhaps?

Stupid question, but did you run all the appropriate rdev commands that
the bootdisk kernel needs?  (You can find them in the rdev.sh file on
the rescue disk)

Sorry if you already knew that :)

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Re: xfstt 0.9.9-5 is not serving for some reason.

1998-08-06 Thread Christopher Barry
Adding FontPath "unix/:7101" solved the problem. I don't know why the
xfstt installation doesn't put this in there for you automatically, or
at least tell you to do it after adding ttf fonts to the proper
directory, but it should. Also, why the switch to unix/:7101? Because
unix/:7100 conflicts with xfs (though I never had problems)? Say, when
is someone going to package xfsft for Debian anyways?

Remco van de Meent wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Christopher Barry wrote:
> 
>  : I recently grabbed the latest xfstt from Slink and I removed the old
>  : xfstt first before upgrading (maybe this is where I went wrong).
>  : Anyways, the new xfstt installed without giving any error messages but
>  : when I started X and Netscape, Netscape was no longer using truetype
>  : fonts and I could no longer select them from edit -> preferences ->
>  : fonts. I looked at my XF86Config file and noticed there was no longer a
>  : FontPath "unix/:7100" entry but adding one just made X fail to start
>  : (could not open default font "fixed" error or something like that). I
>  : rebooted also before trying all of this again and xfstt starts up just
>  : fine at boot time so I'm clueless here.
> 
> I'm using the same xfstt and it works for me. Are you sure the fonts are
> still in place, as you said your removed your old xfstt?
> 
> I'm running a 'normal' xfs on port 7100, and xfstt on 7101. So I specified
> both in XF86Config.
> 
> Good luck,
>  -Remco


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Re: xfstt 0.9.9-5 is not serving for some reason.

1998-08-06 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Christopher Barry wrote:

 : I recently grabbed the latest xfstt from Slink and I removed the old
 : xfstt first before upgrading (maybe this is where I went wrong). 
 : Anyways, the new xfstt installed without giving any error messages but
 : when I started X and Netscape, Netscape was no longer using truetype
 : fonts and I could no longer select them from edit -> preferences ->
 : fonts. I looked at my XF86Config file and noticed there was no longer a
 : FontPath "unix/:7100" entry but adding one just made X fail to start
 : (could not open default font "fixed" error or something like that). I
 : rebooted also before trying all of this again and xfstt starts up just
 : fine at boot time so I'm clueless here.

I'm using the same xfstt and it works for me. Are you sure the fonts are
still in place, as you said your removed your old xfstt?

I'm running a 'normal' xfs on port 7100, and xfstt on 7101. So I specified
both in XF86Config.


Good luck,
 -Remco


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Re: AlphaServer AS800 5/400

1998-08-06 Thread Anders Hammarquist
>Hello,
>I would lke to know if I can install the Debian Linux distribution on an
>AlphaServer AS800 5/400
>(the processor isa DECChip 21164A-2).

Yes, you can. There is a port to the alpha (it's not part of Hamm/2.0, but
we hope to have it ready for Slink/2.1) availabe in dists/unstable.
The AS800 should be supported, though there is no Debian kernel for it I
think, so you'd need to get your kernel and MILO own from
ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/DEC/Linux-Alpha/. There is also a list of
systems <-> nicknames so you can figure out what kernel get (your machine
is a Noritake and since it's a 5/xxx you need teh noritake-s-5 kernel).

If you need more help, talk to debian-alpha@lists.debian.org

Regards,
/Anders

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update of message about debian on toshiba laptop

1998-08-06 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
I forgot to mention that I also tried to boot using the images:
resc1440tecra.bin and resc1440tecra-fast.bin.

No one of those worked. I always have a rebooted laptop.

Thanks a lot,
Giuseppe Sacco


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xfstt 0.9.9-5 is not serving for some reason.

1998-08-06 Thread Christopher Barry
Hi all,

I recently grabbed the latest xfstt from Slink and I removed the old
xfstt first before upgrading (maybe this is where I went wrong).
Anyways, the new xfstt installed without giving any error messages but
when I started X and Netscape, Netscape was no longer using truetype
fonts and I could no longer select them from edit -> preferences ->
fonts. I looked at my XF86Config file and noticed there was no longer a
FontPath "unix/:7100" entry but adding one just made X fail to start
(could not open default font "fixed" error or something like that). I
rebooted also before trying all of this again and xfstt starts up just
fine at boot time so I'm clueless here.

Thanks for any help,
Chris


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Re: ppp connection speed

1998-08-06 Thread Marsh Ray
Try putting the 'REPORT CONNECT' at the beginning?

- Marsh

>/usr/sbin/chat -v -r /home/patricko/speed   \
>TIMEOUT 60  \
>ABORT   '\nBUSY\r'  \
>ABORT   '\nNO CARRIER\r'\
>ABORT   '\nNO DIALTONE\r'   \
>ABORT   '\nRINGING\r\n\r\nRINGING\r'\
>''  ATDT$1  \
>CONNECT ''  \
>REPORT CONNECT  \
>ogin:--ogin:$ACCOUNT\
>assword:$PASSWORD



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Re: ppp connection speed

1998-08-06 Thread Patrick Olson

On 21 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Add 'REPORT CONNECT' to your chatscript and call chat with 
> '-r /etc/ppp/report' and the 'CONNECT' string reported by your modem will
> appear in /etc/ppp/report.  Add 'X4' to your modem init string and it will
> report the connect speed.

I tried this and it didn't exactly work.  Could you tell me what I've done
wrong?

The chatscript, report file and part of ppp.log are below.

Thanks,
Patrick

chatscript
-
/usr/sbin/chat -v -r /home/patricko/speed   \
TIMEOUT 60  \
ABORT   '\nBUSY\r'  \
ABORT   '\nNO CARRIER\r'\
ABORT   '\nNO DIALTONE\r'   \
ABORT   '\nRINGING\r\n\r\nRINGING\r'\
''  ATDT$1  \
CONNECT ''  \
REPORT CONNECT  \
ogin:--ogin:$ACCOUNT\
assword:$PASSWORD
#
-

/home/patricko/speed
-
Opening "/home/patricko/speed"...
Closing "/home/patricko/speed".
-

/var/log/ppp.log shows that the modem is reporting the connect speed
-
Aug  6 09:27:40 server2 chat[5567]: send (ATDT316-0123^M)
Aug  6 09:27:40 server2 chat[5567]: expect (CONNECT)
Aug  6 09:27:40 server2 chat[5567]: ^M
Aug  6 09:27:59 server2 chat[5567]: ^M
Aug  6 09:27:59 server2 chat[5567]: CONNECT -- got it
Aug  6 09:27:59 server2 chat[5567]: send (^M)
Aug  6 09:27:59 server2 chat[5567]: report (CONNECT)
Aug  6 09:27:59 server2 chat[5567]: expect (ogin:)
Aug  6 09:27:59 server2 chat[5567]:  24000^M
Aug  6 09:28:01 server2 chat[5567]: Visit the City of Salem and Marion
County H
Aug  6 09:28:01 server2 chat[5567]: ^M
Aug  6 09:28:01 server2 chat[5567]: ^M
Aug  6 09:28:01 server2 chat[5567]: Salem-6 (line 137) login: -- got it




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problem at start of debian linux installation

1998-08-06 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Hi people,
I have a laptop from TOSHIBA, model 310CDS, and I have a copy of your
last distribution (hamm, 2.0, 24/7/98.)

I have a floppy disk that I wrote using the command rawrite2 whith
arguments 'resc1440.bin' and 'A:'. (from
debian/hamm/main/disks-i386/current)

Then I inserted the floppy disk and rebooted the WindowsNT system I
already have on this laptop.

I viewed the normal debian welcome message and the 'boot:' prompt. So I
pressed ENTER.

The boot process was starting. I read the messages about loading the
root.bin and the linux kernel.

Then the laptop was rebooted. Starting the same boot process. Endless...

I tryed several times this operation, but it is always restarting after
loading kernel and root image.

Do you have some hints about that?

I thank you very much,
Giuseppe Sacco


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Re: dselect's install is too slow

1998-08-06 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, [ISO-8859-2] Pawe³ Sakowski wrote:

> Debian 1.3.1
> 
> Why does installation of packages via dselect last so long? It checks (I
> don't know why) all the packages on the cd. What for? It already knows
> which packages need installation.

You are right.

Now Debian 2.0 contains a much better tool to install packages called
"mountable", which will appear as one more dselect access method as soon
as you install the "dpkg-mountable" package.

This new dselect method is *much* faster and makes the old "cdrom",
"mounted", "harddisk", and "nfs" methods to be virtually obsolete.

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Re: xdm doesn't start properly

1998-08-06 Thread Jay Barbee
make sure /etc/init.d/xdm is not zero lenght (ie: nothing in the file).  As 
dumb 
as it sounds I kept typing '/etc/init.d/xdm start' and nothing was happening.  
Dumb mistake, but it can happen.  If it is zero you probably need to reinstall 
the package again (xbase if I am not mistaken.)

Good luck...
--Jay

> Hello, first is xdm started, is there an xdm process in the table?  If not
> do as root /etc/init.d/xdm start  That should give the logon screen for X.
> Let me know how things work.  also if you suspect xdm errors look at the
> file /var/log/xdm-errors. Hope this helps
> 
> 
> On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, BG Lim wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've been using Debian 1.3 now for some time. Recently, I thought of
> > using xdm to log on instead. However when I type xdm, nothing happens
> > and I get the prompt back.
> > 
> > So, as root, I typed 'xdm -debug 1' and this is the result:
> > 
> > ...
> > creating socket 177
> > xdm error (pid 244): error 98 binding socket address 177
> > Nothing left to do, exiting
> > #
> > ...
> > 
> > Can anyone help me? I haven't tampered with any of the default settings,
> > except to insert 'start-xdm' in the config file in the X preferences
> > directory.
> > 
> > BG
> > 
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Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)

1998-08-06 Thread Greg Starkes
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> At around Wed, 5 Aug 1998 23:52:16 -0700 (PDT),
>  George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> may have mentioned:
> 
> > 
> > What kind of error are you getting?
> 
> for old hamm disks (i made these this may):
> 
> boot: linux floppy=thinkpad
> Loading root.bin.
> Loading linux..
> 

If I remember correctly, floppy=thinkpad is only necessary for older
models. I don't think I used it on my 365XD.

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startx fails/freezes machine (hamm)

1998-08-06 Thread Stuart Marshall
Hi,

On a fresh Debian 2.0 installation I am having severe
problems running X.  It seems like some hardware incompatibility
and I've exhausted my own knowledge of what to try. I have to
suspect the video and scsi cards but they work together just
fine in text mode.

Now for the details:

Symptoms:  When I "startx" the monitor clicks, and appears to go into
   text mode with a blank screen.  No further keyboard input
   is recognized except Crtl-Alt-Del which cleanly reboots
   the machine.  None of {Crtl-Alt-Backspace, Crtl-Alt-F2, etc..}
   work to get back out of X.  Output from startx and
   "strace -f startx" show nothing helpful.

Software:  A fresh Debian 2.0 install with XF86_S3
   as the xserver (xserver-s3_3.3.2.2-4.deb).

Hardware:  Number Nine GXE64 2Mb video card (~4 years old)
   Symbios 53c875 based scsi card (Diamond Fireport 40) (new)
   5 scsi devices of various ages (cdrom and disks)
   Abit BX6 motherboard w 64MB PC100 memory (new) 
   Intel PII 233 MHz cpu (given to me -- unknown history)
   Sony 200sx monitor (~2 years old)
   modem, soundcard, ethernet card (old)
   PS/2 style mouse, keyboard

I tried with the soundcard and ethernet card removed.  Same problem.

During the installation, the xbase-configure program worked fine
up to the point where it tries to run XF86_S3.  The XF86_VGA16
server works fine during  the xbase-configure program.  Naturally
rebooting at that stage of the installation caused a few problems.

I had previously been running Debian 1.3 on an Intel 486 66MHz machine
that used the same video, monitor, modem, soundcard, nic.  I used to
use an ncr53c810 scsi card also but had to buy the Diamond Fireport 40
since the new motherboard bios did not recognize the old scsi card.

I tries various bios settings.  I made sure there are no memory
holes or memory shadowing settings enabled.  I also tried having
the bios assign an irq to the video card -- it made no difference.

So, can anyone recommend a solution or course of action?  I  will try
another video card if I can borrow one but I am really suprised that
my old faithful S3 based card is not working with this new setup.
Perhaps I should have bought a buslogic scsi card instead?

thanks in advance,

Stuart


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Re: Colors

1998-08-06 Thread Kent West


On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Remco van de Meent wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> 
>  : On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 01:06:22PM +0200, Remco van de Meent wrote:
>  : > On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Luiken, Arijan wrote:
>  : > 
>  : >  : I wonder (my guess that this is more a bash/linux question) is it
>  : >  : possible to display colors (ansi) in your prompt and ifso HOW 
>  : > 
>  : > Yup, just use the 'standard' escape sequences and put them in the PS1
>  : > environment variable.
>  : 
>  : "Standard"? Which? Bad idea IMHO.
> 
> I mean the ANSI escape sequences like ESC[33;1m etc.
> 
>  -Remco

In your .bash_profile or similar, enter a line like:
PS1=^V[[33;1m This is my prompt

To get the escape sequence, press Ctrl-V, Ctrl-left-bracket, then 
left-bracket and the correct number.

I saw a good article in the Linux Gazette dealing with this. I think it 
was one of the 2-cent Tips from this year's issues. (Just use a search 
engine to find Linux Gazette's web site, then browse the back issues.)


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Re: Problem with fetchmail

1998-08-06 Thread Ehren Wilson
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Ervin D. Walter wrote:

> [Posted and mailed]
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ehren Wilson) writes:
> > 
> > --- Begin Screen Copy ---
> > bash-2.01$ fetchmail -u ehren mail.powersurfr.com
> > Enter password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
> > 92 messages (1 seen) for ehren at mail.powersurfr.com (258990 bytes).
> > skipping message 1 not flushed
> > reading message 2 of 92 (2859 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't
> > like recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > fetchmail: can't even send to calling user!
> > fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.powersurfr.com
> > fetchmail: Query status=10
> > --- End --- 
> 
> try adding -v to the fetchmail line and send the result.  I'd bet the
> problem is with sendmail not fetchmail.
> 
> Erv
> 

Yes, I was thinking it might also be sendmail, but I wasn't sure how to
test it directly.  Here thresults from 'fetchmail -v', hope this helps.

Ehren

--- Start Results ---
fetchmail: 4.5.5 querying pop.srv.ualberta.ca (protocol POP3) at Thu Aug
6 10:35:42 1998
fetchmail: POP3< +OK QPOP (version 2.53) at altair.ucs.ualberta.ca
starting.  
fetchmail: POP3> USER ewilson
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Password required for ewilson.
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< +OK ewilson has 0 messages (0 octets).
fetchmail: selecting or re-polling default folder
fetchmail: POP3> STAT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 0 0
fetchmail: No mail for ewilson at pop.srv.ualberta.ca
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Pop server at altair.ucs.ualberta.ca signing off.
fetchmail: Query status=1
fetchmail: 4.5.5 querying mail.v-wave.com (protocol POP3) at Thu Aug  6
10:35:50 1998
fetchmail: POP3< +OK mail.videotron.ab.ca POP3 server (Netscape Messaging
Server - Version 3.5) ready Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:35:18 -0600
fetchmail: POP3> USER ehren
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Password required for ehren
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< +OK ehren's maildrop has 120 messages (366781 octets)
fetchmail: selecting or re-polling default folder
fetchmail: POP3> STAT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 120 366781
fetchmail: POP3> LAST
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1
fetchmail: POP3> LIST
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 120 messages (366781 octets)
fetchmail: POP3< 1 2612

(...snipped...)

fetchmail: POP3< 120 2035
fetchmail: POP3< .
120 messages (1 seen) for ehren at mail.v-wave.com (366781 bytes).
skipping message 1 not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> TOP 2 
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Top  lines of message 2
reading message 2 of 120 (2859 bytes)
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 bunny.powersurfr.com ESMTP Exim 1.92 #1 Thu, 6 Aug
1998 10:35:54 -0600
fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-bunny.powersurfr.com Hello ewilson at localhost
[127.0.0.1]
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-SIZE
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 HELP
fetchmail: forwarding to localhost
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
SIZE=2859
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is
syntactically correct
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
fetchmail: SMTP< 550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by
administrator
fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't like recipient address
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
fetchmail: SMTP< 550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by
administrator
fetchmail: can't even send to calling user!
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< I have got Debian Hamm and X up and working and am really 
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.v-wave.com
fetchmail: Query status=10
fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT
fetchmail: SMTP< 221 bunny.powersurfr.com closing connection
fetchmail: normal termination, status 10
--- End Results ---


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PLEASE help: printer drivers

1998-08-06 Thread M.C. Vernon
DEar all,

I have inherited a brother M-1109 dot matrix printer.
1: is there a driver out there? (where?)
2: if (not 1) is there somewhere that will tell me how to write a driver

I can write C

Thanks,

Matthew

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Re: Afterstep Configuration

1998-08-06 Thread Richard L. Alhama
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Ana Graca Silva wrote:

> 
> To everyone who was thinking respond to my previous mail:
> 
> About how to configure afterstep, i've solved my mistery :
> 
> Copied all the files from /usr/share/afterstep to the directory AfterStep
> on my home. Played with some files, and now I have configured it to
> fullfill  all my needs (by now).

I knew you would do that! You know, read /usr/doc/AfterStep/*. I
would have responded to your question b4 but I didn't have the time =)

> Thanks
> 
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> .0.0.
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Re: libc6

1998-08-06 Thread Ed Cogburn
Bryon Bridges wrote:
> 
> I am trying to install Netscape Navigator on my system and it says it
> requires a file called libc6. Yet when I go to dpkg this file, it says it
> conflicts with libc5! I can't simply remove libc5 can I? Why would these
> two files be conflicting anyway? Your help is much appreciated.
> 

There's basically two things you can do.

1) Go to http://ftp.netscape.com and get a copy of the navigator that
has been built with libc5 (I think they still keep both libc5 and libc6
versions).

2) Upgrade your system to libc6.  This can't be done by simply dl'ing
libc6 and telling dpkg to install it.  There are several other things
that have to be done.  You should start with the HowTo that Ray pointed
you to.


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Re: Afterstep Configuration

1998-08-06 Thread Ana Graca Silva

To everyone who was thinking respond to my previous mail:

About how to configure afterstep, i've solved my mistery :

Copied all the files from /usr/share/afterstep to the directory AfterStep
on my home. Played with some files, and now I have configured it to
fullfill  all my needs (by now).

Thanks

   |\___/|
.0.0.
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Re: xdm doesn't start properly

1998-08-06 Thread Paul McDermott
Hello, first is xdm started, is there an xdm process in the table?  If not
do as root /etc/init.d/xdm start  That should give the logon screen for X.
Let me know how things work.  also if you suspect xdm errors look at the
file /var/log/xdm-errors.
Hope this helps


On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, BG Lim wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've been using Debian 1.3 now for some time. Recently, I thought of using
> xdm to log on instead. However when I type xdm, nothing happens and I get
> the prompt back.
> 
> So, as root, I typed 'xdm -debug 1' and this is the result:
> 
> ...
> creating socket 177
> xdm error (pid 244): error 98 binding socket address 177
> Nothing left to do, exiting
> #
> ...
> 
> Can anyone help me? I haven't tampered with any of the default settings,
> except to insert 'start-xdm' in the config file in the X preferences
> directory.
> 
> BG
> 
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Re: using make config

1998-08-06 Thread Ed Cogburn
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> >>"Kennedy" == Kennedy Mutio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>  Kennedy> I'm using Linux version 2.0.33XXX and I'm browsing around
>  Kennedy> ftp.debian.org looking for the kernel-source and maybe
>  Kennedy> kernel-package. I am also looking for dpkg-perl and dpkg-ftp
>  Kennedy> because I noticed that my ftp option in dselect dissapered
>  Kennedy> mysteriously.
> 
>  
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-all/misc/kernel-package_4.11.deb>
>  
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-all/devel/kernel-source-2.0.32_2.0.32-5.deb>
>  
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-all/devel/kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-9.deb>
>  
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-all/devel/kernel-source-2.0.34_2.0.34-4.deb>
>  
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-all/devel/dpkg-perl_0.1-2.deb>
>  
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-all/base/dpkg-ftp_1.4.9.6.deb>
> 
> HTH.
> 
> I use apt, which is now self-contained.
> 
> manoj


In addition to the above:

URL:ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-all/devel/kernel-source-2.0.35_2.0.35-1.deb


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XKB doesn't work as non-root

1998-08-06 Thread BG Lim
When I start X using startx, X starts properly (I'm using KDE). However, I
can't use the backspace key. So, I alt-shift-F1 to VT1. And I find a
message saying:

...
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
>Error: Cannot open "compiled/xfree86.xdm" to write keyboard description
>   Exiting
Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
...

If I startx as root, I don't get this error.

Can anyone help me?

I'm using stock Debian 1.3.

BG


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xdm doesn't start properly

1998-08-06 Thread BG Lim
Hi,

I've been using Debian 1.3 now for some time. Recently, I thought of using
xdm to log on instead. However when I type xdm, nothing happens and I get
the prompt back.

So, as root, I typed 'xdm -debug 1' and this is the result:

...
creating socket 177
xdm error (pid 244): error 98 binding socket address 177
Nothing left to do, exiting
#
...

Can anyone help me? I haven't tampered with any of the default settings,
except to insert 'start-xdm' in the config file in the X preferences
directory.

BG


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Re: another Xauthority problem?

1998-08-06 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Chris Evans wrote:

> Many, many thanks for your help...
>
> On 5 Aug 98, at 12:54, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
>
> > First thing is: are you su-ing and then running emacs? When you su you
> > lose your XAUTHORITY environment variable. The variables points to a file
> > which is used to authenticate you to the X server. What's more, the
> > permissions on xauthority files are set 600 so that only the user logged
> > in can access them (naturally). If you're su-ing to root this doesn't pose
> > a problem since root can read any file. If you're su-ing to another user
> > you'll have to extract the proper auth record and put it into the target
> > user's xauthority file (or disable X security--not recommended).
> >
> > So step by step: do you have an XAUTHORITY environment var?
> >
> > echo $XAUTHORITY
> >
> > If you don't, you need one. If you logged in with xdm then you should have
> > an xauthority file as ~/.Xauthority. Check to see if this file exists. Now
> > set
> >
> > export XAUTHORITY=
> >
> > Try again to run program. If it doesn't work then perhaps you don't have
> > permission to the file or there's no entry for your display. Run 'xauth'
> > and at the prompt type 'list'. Do you see an entry for the DISPLAY you're
> > trying to use? If you're trying to reach the server running on same
> > machine you'll be interested in the '/unix:0' entry most
> > likely. If this entry isn't there then you'll have to get it by exporting
> > the entry from the correct xauthority file and importing it into your
> > xauthority file.
> >
> Interesting thing is that someone else (Eric Marsden) put me onto
> xauth and I did the xauth merge to get the .Xauthority there for root
> and that's fixed the problem.  However, I don't seem to have an
> environment variable XAUTHORITY nor DISPLAY.  I have the sense
> that something, presumably a shell script (??) has got lost when
> Dselect set up my X system.  How should these variables be
> exported routinely and do I need them?

Hmmm. That shouldn't happen. Do you have them before you su? These variables are
set by xdm and your window manager. When you start up an xterm, it will inherit
the environment variables from the process which started it. If it's set to be a
login shell then /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile will be read and processed.
These could also manipulate your environment. The shell will also process
~/.bashrc. I think I'm a little confused though on exactly when you experience
the problem. Does emacs fail only after you've su'd?

> Really appreciate your input on this.

Sure.

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Re: StarOffice

1998-08-06 Thread Martin Schulze
Jarl Jensen wrote:
> I'm trying to install StarOffice on a Redhat 5.1 machine, but it will
> not work.
> I get a message like : line 1: syntax error at token 'I' .
> 
> I know that I have to some certain libraries, but does Redhat 5.1 not
> have the right libraries ?

Dunno.

Btw. did you notice that this is a Debian list?  Ya know, Debian GNU/Linux,
the universal operating system?  Both StarOffic 3.1 and 4.0 run on it.

Regards,

Joey

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misdirected mail

1998-08-06 Thread Martin Schulze

-- 
Never trust an operating system you don't have source for!
--- Begin Message ---
I'm trying to install StarOffice on a Redhat 5.1 machine, but it will
not work.
I get a message like : line 1: syntax error at token 'I' .

I know that I have to some certain libraries, but does Redhat 5.1 not
have the right libraries ?

Thanks in advance..
Jarl Jensen
Netset A/S
Calr Gustavs Gade 3 1.th.
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simple points..........

1998-08-06 Thread Liam Healy
> "phillip" == phillip Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

phillip> Hi,
phillip> Who can recomend me a good* program for ploting points ?? I want 
to show 
phillip> scientific data in a graphic form, and put it in a LaTeX doc. 

phillip> It could have some factures like title, axis text, cusomization of 
phillip> points (diamonds, circles, colors,...), regresion (fitting?) of 
many 
phillip> kinds, conecting lines, diferent fypes of lines (like . or 
-), 
phillip> etc


phillip> * the most important, it should plot a nice graph. 
phillip> Maybe there is one with a GUI...


Try GNU plotutils (NOT to be confused with gnuplot!).
It has several nice programs for plotting, plus a run time library
with 2d plotting utils to link into your programs directly.
There is a .deb for plotutils 2.0, but 2.1.4 is the latest version.

See
http://www.gnu.org/software/plotutils/plotutils.html

(actual package on one of the GNU mirrors referenced there, or direct
from ftp://platinum.math.arizona.edu/pub/plotutils-2.1.4.tar.gz).

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Re: Colors

1998-08-06 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "LA" == Luiken, Arijan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

LA> is it possible to display colors (ansi) in your prompt and ifso HOW 

Check http://chem20.chem.und.nodak.edu/themes/bash.html

Ciao,
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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V98 #815

1998-08-06 Thread Subhi S Hashwa
Can some1 remove me from the list please ?!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Subject:
>
> debian-user-digest Digest   Volume 98 : Issue 815
>
> Today's Topics:
>  Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)
>  cpp
>  Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)
>  bo archive
>  Re: Afterstep Configuration
>  Re: cpp
>  Re: bo archive
>  Re: cpp
>  Re: user limits
>  Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)
>  libc6
>  Re: libc6
>  Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)
>  dselect's install is too slow
>  Acroread dumps core
>  NeeD HELP!!!
>  Re: Acroread dumps core
>  NeeD HELP!!!
>  Colors
>  AlphaServer AS800 5/400
>  Re: Several questions before I run Debian
>  dselect's install is too slow
>  Re: Colors
>  Re: NeeD HELP!!!
>  Re: simple points..
>  Problem with fetchmail
>  Re: bo archive
>  Re: Problem with fetchmail
>  Automatic X startup
>  Re: Automatic X startup
>
>   
>
> Subject: Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Steve Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Steve Hsieh wrote:
>
> >
> > The only way we were able to get our thinkpad to boot debian was to
> > rebuild the kernel using 'make zimage' instead of 'bzimage'. The tecra fix
> > doesn't work for 2.0.34 or above for us.  The other alternative is to use
> > the development 2.1.1xx kernel. A make zimage for that does work.
> >
>
> DUH! I have a PC that will not tolerate a make bzimage either and I forgot
> all about that! One thing, I do not think the default Debian kernel will
> fit in a zImage build, you will need to eliminate some things that you
> might not need to run. The debian kernel compiles in quite a few SCSI
> drivers, for example, that you can eliminate of you have an IDE system.
>
> George Bonser
>
> Given enough time and money, Microsoft will invent Linux.
>
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>   
>
> Subject: cpp
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:38:19 -0700
> From: "Luiken, Arijan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> Hi,
>
> i have a question, when i installed debian (2.0) and i want to install x
> windows (or something else with dselect) i get the message that the
> program has dependency problems with cpp.
>
> anybody any idea's ?
>
> Kind regards,
> Arijan
>
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>   
>
> Subject: Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)
> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 17:33:02 +0900
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> At around Thu, 6 Aug 1998 04:27:31 -0400 (EDT),
>  Steve Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> may have mentioned:
>
> > The only way we were able to get our thinkpad to boot debian was to
> > rebuild the kernel using 'make zimage' instead of 'bzimage'. The tecra fix
> > doesn't work for 2.0.34 or above for us.  The other alternative is to use
> > the development 2.1.1xx kernel. A make zimage for that does work.
>
> i did try something like this earlier, but i think i ended up w/ something
> like:
>
>   "unable to open initial console"
>
> after the root filesystem was mounted read-only.
>
> i'll give this a try again -- what i did before was to take the zimage
> that i compiled and replace it w/ the kernel image on an existing rescue
> disk.  is there anything else i should do besides replace the kernel?
>
> btw, does anyone know how to report these bugs?  is boot-floppies the
> appropriate package to report this under in the bug tracking system?
>
> thanks for your attention.
>
> -sen
>
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>   
>
> Subject: bo archive
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:40:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> There is an archive of bo at ftp.shorelink.com in /debian/bo
>
> I will post a listing of other mirrors on the ftp site as I am made aware
> of them.
>
> George Bonser
>
> Given enough time and money, Microsoft will invent Linux.
>
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>   
>
> Subject: Re: Afterstep Configuration
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:41:38 +0100 (WEST)
> From: Ana Graca Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user 
>
> On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Ana Graca Silva wrote:
>
> >My new problem i

apt - priorities?

1998-08-06 Thread Remco van de Meent
Hi,

When you point apt's config file, sources.list, to more than one Debian
archive, is it possible make sure it uses a specific site when the same
version of a package is found on more than one site?

Is it just the order in which you put the archives in the sources.list file?

 -Remco


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RE: LILO: Map segment is too big.

1998-08-06 Thread John Marter
Thanks for all the replies.  The root disk below was just what I needed.
It had a more modern LILO on it (version 20 instead of 17).  With that
I could successfully get my disk bootable again, and everything
else worked fine.

Thanks

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 1998 6:37 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: LILO: Map segment is too big.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 04, 1998 at 05:16:27PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, John Marter wrote:
> > 
> > > 1. chroot is not one of the commands on the rescue disk.
> > > I haven't had to do a rescue for several years, but the other
> > > time I started by doing a chroot to my usual disk partition.
> > > Is it normal to do rescues without chroot?
> > 
> > Well, if your system is good enough too boot off I usually just tell
> 
> > linux that it's Root is /dev/hda1 (or whatever) and have it boot off
> the
> > harddisk with the good kernel from the floppy, tell it that init is
> > /bin/sh and you'll get a nice shell prompt on a ro system.
> 
> Many times when I screw my system up...I find I have to re-lilo it
> sldo...for a rescue disk which probably has chroot (I love chroot
> myself)
> check out "Tom's Unix on a Floppy" or as a co-worker of mine
> labels his copy "More Magic"
> below is the lsm from the package
> -Steve
> 
> Begin3
> Title:tomsrtbt
> Version:  1.1.4.47
> Entered-date: 05APR98
> Description:  "The most Linux on one (1,722K) floppy."
>   1722MB boot/root rescue disk with a lot of hardware and
> tools.
>   Supports ide, scsi, tape, network adaptors, PCMCIA, much
> more.
>   About 100 utility programs and tools for fixing and
> restoring.
>   See 'ReadMe-Features' for the list of what's included.
> Not a
>   script, just the diskette image packed up chock full of
> stuff.
>   Also good as learn-unix-on-a-floppy as it has mostly
> what you
>   expect- vi, emacs, awk, sed, sh, manpages- loaded on
> ramdisks.
> Keywords: rescue, recovery, emergency, floppy, tomsrtbt
> Author:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Oehser)
> Maintained-by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Oehser)
> Primary-site: sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/system/recovery
>   1722 kB tomsrtbt-1.1.4.47.tar.gz
>   1 kB tomsrtbt-1.1.4.47.lsm
> Alternate-site:   ftp.clark.net/pub/toehser/rb
>   1722 kB tomsrtbt-current.tar.gz
> Copying-policy:   GPL
> End
> 
> 
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Re: Colors

1998-08-06 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 : On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 01:06:22PM +0200, Remco van de Meent wrote:
 : > On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Luiken, Arijan wrote:
 : > 
 : >  : I wonder (my guess that this is more a bash/linux question) is it
 : >  : possible to display colors (ansi) in your prompt and ifso HOW 
 : > 
 : > Yup, just use the 'standard' escape sequences and put them in the PS1
 : > environment variable.
 : 
 : "Standard"? Which? Bad idea IMHO.

I mean the ANSI escape sequences like ESC[33;1m etc.

 -Remco


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Re: Automatic X startup

1998-08-06 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "TTF" == Torbjorn T Friberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

TTF> Could anyone tell me how to get X automatically started. Now I have to
TTF> write 'startx' every time.

$ cat /etc/X11/config
# This file contains configuration flags for the X Window System.
# For a description of the meanings of the flags, see
# /usr/doc/X11/README.Debian

run-xconsole
obey-nologin
allow-user-resources
allow-user-modmap
allow-user-xsession
allow-failsafe
xdm-start-server
start-xdm
use-sessreg

Also take a look at the FAQ-o-matic http://www.debian.org/fom/36.html

Ciao,
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Broken rescue disk (hamm)

1998-08-06 Thread Muench, David

> I posted about this once before, and didn't get an answer back.
> 
> I'm trying to install 2.0 on my computer, and the rescue disk (any of
> them - off of floppy, hard drive, tecra and regular) all lock up right
> after the md line in the boot messages. I found Bo today, and tried
> installing that, exact same problem. My computer's a gateway solo
> 9100LS laptop, and I've fiddled with the bios settings (Pnp was off
> anyway, etc). Redhat 5.1 boots just fine and is installed on it. I can
> only assume it's probing for scsi devices, which I don't have (seems
> like that'd be about there in the boot sequence). Any solutions?
> Thanks in advance..
> 
> ---
> David Muench - Project System Administrator
> Retrotech, Inc. - http://www.retrotech.com/
> 
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Re: Colors

1998-08-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 01:06:22PM +0200, Remco van de Meent wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Luiken, Arijan wrote:
> 
>  : I wonder (my guess that this is more a bash/linux question) is it
>  : possible to display colors (ansi) in your prompt and ifso HOW 
> 
> Yup, just use the 'standard' escape sequences and put them in the PS1
> environment variable.

"Standard"? Which? Bad idea IMHO.


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Re: Automatic X startup

1998-08-06 Thread Marsh Ray

On new hamm systems, all I had to do was change the 
line in '/etc/X11/config' from 'no-start-xdm' to 'start-xdm'.

- Marsh

From: Ossama Othman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> Could anyone tell me how to get X automatically started. Now I have to
>> write 'startx' every time.
>
>Try configuring xdm to start at boot.  You can probably use
>xbase-configure to configure it.  If that doesn't work check /etc/init.d
>for a script called xdm.  If you don't have xdm but have something like
>"xdm-new.dist," than move that file to /etc/init.d/xdm.  The next time you
>boot, xdm should start X for you and provide you with an X login
>prompt/window.



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Re: Automatic X startup

1998-08-06 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

> Could anyone tell me how to get X automatically started. Now I have to
> write 'startx' every time.

Try configuring xdm to start at boot.  You can probably use
xbase-configure to configure it.  If that doesn't work check /etc/init.d
for a script called xdm.  If you don't have xdm but have something like
"xdm-new.dist," than move that file to /etc/init.d/xdm.  The next time you
boot, xdm should start X for you and provide you with an X login
prompt/window.

-Ossama



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Automatic X startup

1998-08-06 Thread Torbjorn . T . Friberg
Could anyone tell me how to get X automatically started. Now I have to
write 'startx' every time.

/Torbjörn


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Re: Problem with fetchmail

1998-08-06 Thread Ervin D. Walter
[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ehren Wilson) writes:
> 
> --- Begin Screen Copy ---
> bash-2.01$ fetchmail -u ehren mail.powersurfr.com
> Enter password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
> 92 messages (1 seen) for ehren at mail.powersurfr.com (258990 bytes).
> skipping message 1 not flushed
> reading message 2 of 92 (2859 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't
> like recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> fetchmail: can't even send to calling user!
> fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.powersurfr.com
> fetchmail: Query status=10
> --- End --- 

try adding -v to the fetchmail line and send the result.  I'd bet the
problem is with sendmail not fetchmail.

Erv


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Re: bo archive

1998-08-06 Thread servis
*- George Bonser wrote about "bo archive"
| 
| There is an archive of bo at ftp.shorelink.com in /debian/bo
| 
| I will post a listing of other mirrors on the ftp site as I am made aware
| of them.

There was a discussion on this on debian-devel recently, check the
list archives to see if I missed any.

These sites were given as having an archive of bo.

ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/debian/dists/bo/
http://debian.midco.net/debian/Archive/
ftp://debian.midco.net/debian/Archive/
ftp://ftp.fifi.org/pub/debian/bo
http://www.fifi.org/debian/bo

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-
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 because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." 
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Problem with fetchmail

1998-08-06 Thread Ehren Wilson
I was wondering if soemone could help me with a problem I am having with
fetchmail.  I trued upgrading to slink yesterday and everything apeared to
work.  The only problem I have having is that fetchmail is not working
correctly.  For some reason it send [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the recipient
address now.  Here is a copy of the message I get.

--- Begin Screen Copy ---
bash-2.01$ fetchmail -u ehren mail.powersurfr.com
Enter password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
92 messages (1 seen) for ehren at mail.powersurfr.com (258990 bytes).
skipping message 1 not flushed
reading message 2 of 92 (2859 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't
like recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
fetchmail: can't even send to calling user!
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.powersurfr.com
fetchmail: Query status=10
--- End --- 

If anyone has had this problem before, or has some clue how to fix it
could you please mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], I should be able to
recieve email there quite easily 

Ehren


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Re: simple points..........

1998-08-06 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Art Lemasters wrote:

>  You might try gnuplot (in the "math" directory).  I
> have not used it, but I saw a good demonstration at the
> Linux users' group meeting here.  ...tell you what...I'll
> download it right now, too, and we'll compete for the
> bandwidth.   
> 
> 

you might try xmgr, too. It's a Origin like program. The version I knew
only plots in 2D, if this isn't a problem to you... 




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> > 
> >Thanks,
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Re: NeeD HELP!!!

1998-08-06 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
> 
> It's me once again,
> 
> I found it, it's the .xsession-errors in /root.
> However, how can it become more than 460MB???
> 


e.g.:


#!/bin/bash

bogus < oh me oh my
source .xsession


I guess this kind of .xsession file would generate quite some large
.xsession-errors file.  What is actually in that file?

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Re: Colors

1998-08-06 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Luiken, Arijan wrote:

 : I wonder (my guess that this is more a bash/linux question) is it
 : possible to display colors (ansi) in your prompt and ifso HOW 

Yup, just use the 'standard' escape sequences and put them in the PS1
environment variable.

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dselect's install is too slow

1998-08-06 Thread Paweł Sakowski
Debian 1.3.1

Why does installation of packages via dselect last so long? It checks (I
don't know why) all the packages on the cd. What for? It already knows
which packages need installation.

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Re: Several questions before I run Debian

1998-08-06 Thread Robert Wilderspin
On 6 Aug 98 04:23:09 GMT, in linux.debian.user you wrote:

>On Wed, Aug 05, 1998 at 11:53:34PM -0400, Matthew A. Reklau wrote:
> 
>> Do the X servers include support for the Diamond Viper V330?
>>
>Dunno, but I think so.  Debian's X software is Xfree86 3.3.2, so if Xfree86
>supports it, Debian supports it.  If you dont get a better answer then 
>that, you might check the Xfree86 web site.

I don't have Xfree86 3.3.2, so I can't say if that supports your card.
However, I'm running the XSuSe_nVidia server perfectly well on my
Viper 330, accelerated for both PCI and AGP versions.  This may have
been incorporated into the new Xfree86.


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AlphaServer AS800 5/400

1998-08-06 Thread Giulio Pasqualone
Hello,
I would lke to know if I can install the Debian Linux distribution on an
AlphaServer AS800 5/400
(the processor isa DECChip 21164A-2).

Thank You,

Giulio.


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Colors

1998-08-06 Thread Luiken, Arijan
Hi,

I wonder (my guess that this is more a bash/linux question)

is it possible to display colors (ansi) in your prompt and ifso HOW 

Regards,
Arijan (debian newbie)
Kind regards,

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NeeD HELP!!!

1998-08-06 Thread Lisner
It's me once again,

I found it, it's the .xsession-errors in /root.
However, how can it become more than 460MB???

Strange ...
Jens


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Re: Acroread dumps core

1998-08-06 Thread Ari K Makela

> (gdb says the problem is in strncmp). Has anyone succeeded in making
> this package work? Otherwise I will file a bug report.

Works very well for me with Debian 2.0. My package version is

./text/acroread_3.01-0.1.deb

and my system information:

13:17:06 Thu Aug  6
[EMAIL PROTECTED] amak$ uname -a
Linux hex 2.0.34 #2 Thu Jul 9 10:57:48 EST 1998 i686 unknown


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NeeD HELP!!!

1998-08-06 Thread Lisner
Hi all,

I have a freshly installed hamm, with / mounted to a 500 MB partition 
/usr and /home mounted to other partitions. df reports / is 100% in use, 
and Linux seem to believe it, so no new file can be created.

To test this I made 

ls -Rl bin boot dev etc initrd lib lost+found root sbin tmp var vmlinuz |
awk '{ total+=$5 };  END { print total };'

This reports only 18MB in use.

How can I get rid of this problem???

Thanx for instant help,
Jens


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Acroread dumps core

1998-08-06 Thread Eric Marsden
Hello,

I have tried installing the Adobe Acrobat Reader on a recently
installed 2.0 system, using the .deb provided in hamm/non-free.
Unfortunately, the acroread executable dumps core right on launching
(gdb says the problem is in strncmp). Has anyone succeeded in making
this package work? Otherwise I will file a bug report.

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dselect's install is too slow

1998-08-06 Thread Paweł Sakowski
Debian 1.3.1

Why does installation of packages via dselect last so long? It checks (I
don't know why) all the packages on the cd. What for? It already knows
which packages need installation.

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Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)

1998-08-06 Thread sen_ml
At around Thu, 06 Aug 1998 18:15:20 +0900,
 I may have mentioned:

[discussion about installing debian on a thinkpad 770 ed snipped]

> i just realized that i'd been using a 2.0.35 zimage on a 2.0.34 rescue
> disk...perhaps this was the cause of the initial console error message.
> i am recompiling a 2.0.34 zimage now.

i tried this but i got the same error message:

  Unable to open an initial console.

:-(

is there anything else i should do to the rescue disk perhaps?

-sen


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Re: libc6

1998-08-06 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 02:32:55AM -0700, Bryon Bridges wrote:
> I am trying to install Netscape Navigator on my system and it says it
> requires a file called libc6. Yet when I go to dpkg this file, it says it
> conflicts with libc5! I can't simply remove libc5 can I? Why would these
> two files be conflicting anyway? Your help is much appreciated.

http://www.debian.org/2.0/HOWTO.upgrade

HTH,
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libc6

1998-08-06 Thread Bryon Bridges
I am trying to install Netscape Navigator on my system and it says it
requires a file called libc6. Yet when I go to dpkg this file, it says it
conflicts with libc5! I can't simply remove libc5 can I? Why would these
two files be conflicting anyway? Your help is much appreciated.


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Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)

1998-08-06 Thread sen_ml
At around Thu, 06 Aug 1998 17:33:02 +0900,
 I may have mentioned:

> At around Thu, 6 Aug 1998 04:27:31 -0400 (EDT),
>  Steve Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> may have mentioned:
> 
> > The only way we were able to get our thinkpad to boot debian was to
> > rebuild the kernel using 'make zimage' instead of 'bzimage'. The tecra fix
> > doesn't work for 2.0.34 or above for us.  The other alternative is to use
> > the development 2.1.1xx kernel. A make zimage for that does work. 
> 
> i did try something like this earlier, but i think i ended up w/ something
> like:
> 
>   "unable to open initial console"
> 
> after the root filesystem was mounted read-only.
> 
> i'll give this a try again -- what i did before was to take the zimage
> that i compiled and replace it w/ the kernel image on an existing rescue
> disk.  is there anything else i should do besides replace the kernel?

i just realized that i'd been using a 2.0.35 zimage on a 2.0.34 rescue
disk...perhaps this was the cause of the initial console error message.
i am recompiling a 2.0.34 zimage now.

-sen


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Re: user limits

1998-08-06 Thread Brian May
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>-Original Message-
>From: Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Debian User 
>Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 6:20 AM
>Subject: user limits
>
>
>>
>>Is there any way to limit background processes?
>
>Check out the ulimit command. More specifically
>ulimit -u 

Other alternatives:

1. check /etc/limits, although I think this might only work for
/bin/login, I am not sure. I would be surprised if ssh supported it.
It would be good if all programs did support it, as lshell is (IMHO),
rather a hacked solution (although it works), as it "replaces" the users
login shell.

2. look at the debian package lshell:

Package: lshell
Status: install ok installed
Priority: extra
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 30
Maintainer: Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 2.01-9
Depends: libc6
Conffiles:
 /etc/lshell.conf fbe8463ffdfed7454f79e2022e821bc7
Description: Enforce limits to protect system integrity.
 This program enforces resource quotas stored in a configuration file. It is
 easier and more secure that writing a shell script in /etc/profile and
 trying to compare user names in hard-coded if/else type trees.


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Re: cpp

1998-08-06 Thread Ari K Makela
Luiken, Arijan writes:

> i have a question, when i installed debian (2.0) and i want to install x
> windows (or something else with dselect) i get the message that the
> program has dependency problems with cpp.

Some programs depend on other programs i.e. in this case X needs the
GNU C preprocessor. Without it it won't work.

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Re: cpp

1998-08-06 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 01:38:19AM -0700, Luiken, Arijan wrote:
> i have a question, when i installed debian (2.0) and i want to install x
> windows (or something else with dselect) i get the message that the
> program has dependency problems with cpp.
> 
> anybody any idea's ?

Not really, because you don't provide enough information. What message do
you get precisely? Which X packages complain? etc.

My best guess would be that you don't have the "cpp" package from
"main/binary*/interpreters" installed.

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Re: Afterstep Configuration

1998-08-06 Thread Ana Graca Silva
On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Ana Graca Silva wrote:

>My new problem is the window manager - afterstep 1.4.5.3-1 .
>
>I was trying to configure my desktop when i found in afterstep home page
>some perturbing information - the AS Directory Strutcture in that page is
>much bigger then the mine in my home ... 
>For Example
>
> In the directory GNUstep/Library/AfterStep I only have:
> drwxr-xr-x   3 ags  ags  1024 Aug  5 22:54 . 
> drwxr-xr-x   3 ags  ags  1024 Aug  5 19:32 ..
> -rw-r--r--   1 ags  ags 0 Aug  5 22:54 .workspace_state 
> drwxr-xr-x   7 ags  ags  1024 Aug  5 19:32 non-configurable
> 
> In the AS homepage there's an infinity of other files and more other
>directorys!
>
>Can someone tell me whats wrong? What Can I do to fix this? 

/* Sorry for repeating all the story */
Well, what I realy want know is how can I configure my window manager? I
don't care if i have a smaller file structure, i only need to know what to
do to configure my AS, as it is 
Please some help will be apreciated.  


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Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)

1998-08-06 Thread sen_ml
At around Thu, 6 Aug 1998 04:27:31 -0400 (EDT),
 Steve Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> may have mentioned:

> The only way we were able to get our thinkpad to boot debian was to
> rebuild the kernel using 'make zimage' instead of 'bzimage'. The tecra fix
> doesn't work for 2.0.34 or above for us.  The other alternative is to use
> the development 2.1.1xx kernel. A make zimage for that does work. 

i did try something like this earlier, but i think i ended up w/ something
like:

  "unable to open initial console"

after the root filesystem was mounted read-only.

i'll give this a try again -- what i did before was to take the zimage
that i compiled and replace it w/ the kernel image on an existing rescue
disk.  is there anything else i should do besides replace the kernel?

btw, does anyone know how to report these bugs?  is boot-floppies the
appropriate package to report this under in the bug tracking system?

thanks for your attention.

-sen



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cpp

1998-08-06 Thread Luiken, Arijan
Hi,

i have a question, when i installed debian (2.0) and i want to install x
windows (or something else with dselect) i get the message that the
program has dependency problems with cpp.

anybody any idea's ?

Kind regards,
Arijan


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Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)

1998-08-06 Thread Steve Hsieh

The only way we were able to get our thinkpad to boot debian was to
rebuild the kernel using 'make zimage' instead of 'bzimage'. The tecra fix
doesn't work for 2.0.34 or above for us.  The other alternative is to use
the development 2.1.1xx kernel. A make zimage for that does work. 


On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> hi-
> 
>   i'm trying to install debian on a thinkpad 770 ed w/ no luck.
> 
>   neither floppy=thinkpad nor the tecra disks (latest i've tried are
> dated july 21st) worked for me.
> 
>   i'm not complaining or anything, but this is my fourth post to this
> list this week -- i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions about
> where else i might be able to ask (or look for more info).
> 
>   i've found a page by someone who has successfully installed redhat
> 5.0 and 5.1 on this model, so i think it must be possible :-)
> 
>   thanks for your attention.
> 
> -sen
> 
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Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)

1998-08-06 Thread sen_ml
At around Thu, 6 Aug 1998 00:26:04 -0700 (PDT),
 George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> may have mentioned:

> On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > boot: linux floppy=thinkpad
> > Loading root.bin.
> > Loading linux..
> > A20 gating failed
> > 
> > [system hangs -- same thing for when i don't specify floppy=thinkpad]
> 
> Have you made any tweaks to the BIOS to try to speed things up under
> Windows? Maybe chaning the A20 gating from normal to fast or changing the
> bus speeds or anything?

i don't know how to tweak bios things for this model -- there is a way
to change various settings (press f1 while turning the machine on and
keep f1 pressed) such as boot device order, but i have not
successfully located any setting that seems related to a20 gating.
there really doesn't appear to be a whole lot one can change from these
screens.  perhaps there is some other way of altering settings?

> My first thing to try is making note of all BIOS settings and then setting
> them to factory default and trying again. If that does not work, disable
> PnP support in the BIOS and try again.

i haven't found the location for changing whether pnp support is 
enabled either.

thanks for the suggestions -- i would try them but i don't know how on
this model...btw, under which bioses have you seen the ability to modify
a20 gating settings?  i have yet to see this in a bios (though i haven't
looked before, so i may just have missed it...).

thank you for your attenion,

-sen


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Re: daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)

1998-08-06 Thread sen_ml
At around Wed, 5 Aug 1998 23:52:16 -0700 (PDT),
 George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> may have mentioned:

> 
> What kind of error are you getting?

for old hamm disks (i made these this may):

boot: linux floppy=thinkpad
Loading root.bin.
Loading linux..

[disk spins w/ no progress, top of the screen is partially blue]

for vanilla hamm disks dated 7/21:

boot: linux floppy=thinkpad
Loading root.bin.
Loading linux..

[nothing else is displayed -- things just hang -- same thing for when
i don't specify floppy=thinkpad]

for tecra hamm disks dated 7/21:

boot: linux floppy=thinkpad
Loading root.bin.
Loading linux..
A20 gating failed

[system hangs -- same thing for when i don't specify floppy=thinkpad]

(number of dots not precise :-) )

there was some information on A20 gating failing at:

  http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/linux-problem

this hasn't helped me fix things though.

-sen

> On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > hi-
> > 
> >   i'm trying to install debian on a thinkpad 770 ed w/ no luck.
> > 
> >   neither floppy=thinkpad nor the tecra disks (latest i've tried are
> > dated july 21st) worked for me.
> > 
> >   i'm not complaining or anything, but this is my fourth post to this
> > list this week -- i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions about
> > where else i might be able to ask (or look for more info).
> > 
> >   i've found a page by someone who has successfully installed redhat
> > 5.0 and 5.1 on this model, so i think it must be possible :-)
> > 
> >   thanks for your attention.


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daily thinkpad 770 ed post :-)

1998-08-06 Thread sen_ml
hi-

  i'm trying to install debian on a thinkpad 770 ed w/ no luck.

  neither floppy=thinkpad nor the tecra disks (latest i've tried are
dated july 21st) worked for me.

  i'm not complaining or anything, but this is my fourth post to this
list this week -- i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions about
where else i might be able to ask (or look for more info).

  i've found a page by someone who has successfully installed redhat
5.0 and 5.1 on this model, so i think it must be possible :-)

  thanks for your attention.

-sen


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Re: simple points..........

1998-08-06 Thread Art Lemasters
 You might try gnuplot (in the "math" directory).  I
have not used it, but I saw a good demonstration at the
Linux users' group meeting here.  ...tell you what...I'll
download it right now, too, and we'll compete for the
bandwidth.   


Art

On Wed, Aug 05, 1998 at 10:14:26PM -0700, phillip Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Who can recomend me a good* program for ploting points ?? I want to show 
> scientific data in a graphic form, and put it in a LaTeX doc. 
> 
> It could have some factures like title, axis text, cusomization of 
> points (diamonds, circles, colors,...), regresion (fitting?) of many 
> kinds, conecting lines, diferent fypes of lines (like . or -), 
> etc
> 
> 
> * the most important, it should plot a nice graph. 
> Maybe there is one with a GUI...
> 
> 
>Thanks,
>   Phillip Neumann
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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1998-08-06 Thread phillip Neumann
Hi,

Who can recomend me a good* program for ploting points ?? I want to show 
scientific data in a graphic form, and put it in a LaTeX doc. 

It could have some factures like title, axis text, cusomization of 
points (diamonds, circles, colors,...), regresion (fitting?) of many 
kinds, conecting lines, diferent fypes of lines (like . or -), 
etc


* the most important, it should plot a nice graph. 
Maybe there is one with a GUI...


   Thanks,
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Re: Was the release of Debian 2.0 put on Linux Announce?

1998-08-06 Thread Paul
Yup! Even to the technically inclined monitor and card setups
tend to be difficult and boring, even when you can find all the
information needed.

On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, George Bonser wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > What we need here is more clout with the hardware manufacturers.
> > Manufacturers actually providing X-servers that take advantange of
> > their hardware and/or the info for XF86Config. And monitor 
> > manufacturers could supply info for XF86Config. The linux community
> > is starting to get enough notice that this *may* be possible soon.
> > 
> 
> I would like to see an m4 configuration macro set like sendmail has for
> making X config files. I have no idea whay nobody has ever built one.
> 
> 
> George Bonser


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Re: Several questions before I run Debian

1998-08-06 Thread Michael B. Taylor
On Wed, Aug 05, 1998 at 11:53:34PM -0400, Matthew A. Reklau wrote:
> I do not subscribe to this list and do not currently run Debian.  Before I
> run Debian I want to know:
> 
> What kernel version does the current Debian 2.0 come with?
> 
2.0.34

> What support is included for Fat 32?
>
kernel 2.0.34 supports FAT32.  Just mount it, works out of the box.
I posed this same question to this list 
myself recently.  Thanks to Bob Nielsen for providing me this info.
 
> Do the X servers include support for the Diamond Viper V330?
>
Dunno, but I think so.  Debian's X software is Xfree86 3.3.2, so if Xfree86
supports it, Debian supports it.  If you dont get a better answer then 
that, you might check the Xfree86 web site.
  
> If I can get acceptable answers to these questions I will begin to run
> Debian ASAP.
> 
> Thanks for your time and help.
> 
> Respond to
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> since I am not on the list.
> 
> 
> 
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Several questions before I run Debian

1998-08-06 Thread Matthew A. Reklau
I do not subscribe to this list and do not currently run Debian.  Before I
run Debian I want to know:

What kernel version does the current Debian 2.0 come with?

What support is included for Fat 32?

Do the X servers include support for the Diamond Viper V330?

If I can get acceptable answers to these questions I will begin to run
Debian ASAP.

Thanks for your time and help.

Respond to

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since I am not on the list.



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Re: Multiple copies of messages in digest

1998-08-06 Thread Kent West


On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Johann Spies wrote:

> I have complained about this in the past to the listmaster: I get up to 5
> copies of some messages at times.
> 
> I subscribed to the digest because I wanted to shorten my download time.
> Today I deleted 66 duplicate copies before I started reading the mail.
> 
> Im I the only one who experience this?
> 
> Johann
> 

The only time I get dupes is when I get a reply to a post I've made and 
that reply is carbon copied (CC'd) to the list; but never have I gotten 5 
dupes; only two, and only in that situation just mentioned.


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Re: Password to single user boot.

1998-08-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Ossama Othman wrote:

: By the way, I don't think I understood what you and David were talking
: about concerning mbr and the master boot record and floppy booting.  Could
: you please elaborate?

Sure.  If you hold down the shift key very soon in the boot cycle,
you'll get a prompt like "1FA:", which is mbr's friendly way of saying
"You, pick Partition 1, Floppy, or Automatic" as the boot process.  (Of
course, this prompt may look a little different depending on how you've
configured your system).  It is the default master boot record installed
by Debian (unless you choose to NOT install a master boot record; most
users do, I imagine), and it will allow someone to boot with a floppy
before LILO even runs, unless the sysadmin has disabled floppy boot in
BIOS.  Not all BIOSes support this option, so it makes sense to consider
mbr's place in a security scheme.

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Re: Source Navigator (lite)

1998-08-06 Thread David B. Teague
All

Please post if you have that.

Ed: If you get it, either post or send me private mail, if you 
will please.

--David

On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Young, Ed wrote:

> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 12:34:48 -0600
> From: "Young, Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Debian user list 
> Subject: Source Navigator (lite)
> Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 18:35:02 +
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;
> 
> 
> Has anyone used the Cygnus Solutions Source Navigator? 
> 
> I understand that there was an eval version around called Source Navigator
> Lite that only limited the size of projects it could handle, but had all the
> functionality of the full version. It's not available from Cygnus anymore.
> It loaded right into bo. 
> 
> Does anyone still have the tar ball for this lite version? I'd like to try
> it out. 
> 
> Thanx, 
> 
> Ed
> 
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Re: How do I set the Reply-To field in Pine/Smail?

1998-08-06 Thread Adam Shand

> I use Pine and Smail and regularly send email to a group of people.  Now
> some servers is starting to refuse the mail because they see it as spam
> apparently because the Reply To field refers to my localhost in stead of
> my proper email address. 

the easiest way is to use pines custom header feature.

go into pines configuration menu, and look for the "Customized-Headers"
option.  in there you should add a line which looks like this:

Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and that should do the trick.

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Re: Password to single user boot.

1998-08-06 Thread Ossama Othman
> The default Debian setup allows you to select which partition to boot
> from, before selecting a default.  On my system (with only /dev/hda2
> marked bootable), I see a "2FA:" prompt.  If I press any keys here, I
> can press "2" (boot from hda2), "F" (boot from floppy), or "A", which
> changes the prompt to "1234F:" and allows me to boot from any
> partition.  This is a useful feature for Debian, and completely
> undesirable behavior for the system you describe.

Aahh!  I had no clue what you guys were talking about until now.  I
completely forgot that the default Debian install does the above.  :)
Thanks for the elaboration.  I don't have the above problem since my
lilo isn't set up like the above.  Thanks again for the details.

-Ossama


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RE: naming of newt package

1998-08-06 Thread sen_ml
At around Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:43:07 +0200,
 "Frock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> may have mentioned:

> Stephen J. Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > What this doe sis make the version name part of the package. This is done
> > because often differnt versions are incompatible with eachother.
> > It i scommon with libraries
> > The problem is normally when you install a new version of a package the
> > old version is removed...this would break anything using the old version
> > so this allows you to install both versions
> > (ie. libc5 and libc6 etc)
> 
> Yes, but newt0.21 and newt0.25 can't both be installed at the same time!
> I chose to remove newt0.21 and install newt0.25 (using apt), and it worked
> for me :^)

this is what i ended up doing as well...

is this the expected method of dealing w/ this?  i don't mind doing things
manually sometimes -- just wondering.

-sen


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Re: chmod

1998-08-06 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "MP" == Mark Panzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MP> I tried using chmod to allow myself (when logged in as mark) to have
MP> access to my floppy drive. I did a 

MP> chmod o+rwx /floppy

MP> but when I tried to check this with ls -ld /floppy I see that only root
MP> still has write privilages.  Can someone offer some help.

You changed the permissions of the mountpoint, but this has no
significance after mounting the floppy.

Tweak the mountline.
I'd use the Options uid=0,gid=103,umask=007 to give group dosdisks
rw access to the floppy.

Ciao,
Martin


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