Re: install debian linux completely from source CD
Andrew Lynch wrote: > ... > Is there a way to completely build a debian linux installation from > source code on the Source CD? I mean this: > ... > from the original source code? This would be more time consuming, > obviously, but would capture the benefits of compiled for target > optimizations (pentium vs 486, etc). > It would also allow for new versions of Debian to be distributed as source diff's in addition to the complete sources. It would be very benefitial for those who don't have enough bandwidth to download the contents of several CDs and definitely have a positive impact on ease of distribution and up-to-dateness of many Debian installations. I know nothing about internal structure of *.deb files, but I don't see why they shouldn't support building from sources or source diffs as well and at the same time retain dependency information allowing dselect (or alike) to work as before? Regards, Milan
Installing new glibc & wmaker
Many thanks to all those who posted replies to my plea for help. I downloaded the newer libstdc++2.8_2.90.29-2.deb and installed it. Once this had been done, I was able to install libc6_2.0.7u-7.1.deb without problems. Cheers. -- Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux v.2.0
Re: Configuring modem and connecting to the net
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: > >> Horacio writes: >> >> > BTW, how can I give a normal user permission to use the smail/sendmail >> > command? >> >> What are you trying to do? I can think of no reason that a user would eve >r >> need to type 'smail' or 'sendmail'. > >I don't get it, I am supposed not to use root except for (re)configuring >programs/the system,... so, every time I want to get my mail downloaded I >have to enter as root, or else I can't run the smail or sendmail command as >a normal user. > >May be there's a way of doing it automatically by writing it somewhere >(probably the same with fetchmail)? The command to use for sending mail is runq, which is in an ordinary user's path. (It's just a script that runs sendmail.) Collecting mail should be automated. Either make it a cron job, to run at regular intervals, or use the ip-up script to fetch mail every time PPP is started up. For example: = $ cat /etc/diald/ip-up #!/bin/sh # # $Id: ip-up,v 1.19 1998/08/10 06:27:47 phil Exp $ # # Sample diald ip-up script -- GV # iface=$1 netmask=$2 localip=$3 remoteip=$4 metric=$5 # Set the time and date ntpdate -s -t 5 ntp2c.mcc.ac.uk ntp4.strath.ac.uk & # Get mail fetchmail mail.enterprise.net # Run the mail queue runq = -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 "Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips." Proverbs 27:2
RE: install debian linux completely from source CD
> > I am sure its possible, but how do I do it? TIA!! Possible yes, but not out of the box. dselect has no support for source packages. So you will have to come up w/ a way mass extract and build the sources. possibly a cvs server you can inject all the source into, then do a make world a la freebsd. Then install all of the *.deb's. Beter have LOTS of time and hard drive space. X takes hours to compile I hear.
Re: Installing Debian???
I'm going to take a stab at this, but by no means am I an expert on the subject - so take this as just a suggestion: I've installed Debian on three machines now - all with different CD drives. I've selected the generic CDROM drivers in each case, and haven't had a problem yet. Have you tried those? They may not be optimal, but they may get you going. -Jay In a message dated 12/16/98 3:34:02 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I am very, very new to linux and attempting to install Debian on my PC. > >I am having 3 independent problems that I hope someone can help me with. > > 1) I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive, but when I try to install the drivers > >for it during the "install drivers phase" of installation, I keep > >getting the message installation failed. It seems like the drive is > >supported (there are options for a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive and an Mitsumi > >extended drive). I am not sure if it is failing because I am giving it > >the wrong command line options (specifying IRQ and IO, which admittedly I > >am unsure about) or what. > > Sorry, I can't help with this. >
install debian linux completely from source CD
Debian Gurus, I recently bought the CheapBytes Debian 2.0 CD set (4 CDs). They are most cool. I have a question though: Is there a way to completely build a debian linux installation from source code on the Source CD? I mean this: use the binary CD to do a minimum install system, then use a tool like dpkg or dselect to 'make' the packages (instead of installing binaries) from the original source code? This would be more time consuming, obviously, but would capture the benefits of compiled for target optimizations (pentium vs 486, etc). Obvious you can 'make' individual packages but then you bypass the benefits of dpkg package management. I would love to have a linux installation built COMPLETELY from the original source code. I am sure its possible, but how do I do it? TIA!! Andrew Lynch, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS, please reply to my email address as well as copying the list. I try to keep up, but I several days behind in my email. TIA!! > > Subject: Re: First attempt > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 04:50:54 + (GMT) > From: Philip Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: KTB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "debian-user@lists.debian.org" , > "recipient.list.not.shown": ; > > The binary CD uses the normal resc1440.bin to boot. > The source CD uses the boot disk with the tecra patch > Depends on what your system needs. >
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
On 16 Dec 1998q, Chris Evans wrote: > On 15 Dec 98, at 21:59, KTB wrote: > [snip] > > I'm copying this to the list as a sort of "thank you" to so many > people who've helped me directly or have asked questions or > answered questions other than mine which have helped me! > > Seasonal greetings all! > > Chris I'd like to echo this, and also thank the several maintainers of packages who have always replied promptly and helpfully when I've encountered difficulties/bugs in their contributions. This accessibility of the maintainers is a very big plus for Debian. I started some years ago with Slackware, and nearly gave up; then I tried Red Hat and things went much better. I became converted to Linux. A few months ago I decided to try Debian and have now changed to it completely. From most points of view I prefer it to Red Hat, although the difference is not enormous; I only miss /etc/rc.local. The only thing that's a bit difficult in installing Debian is dselect, but once you're past that hurdle things go pretty smoothly. BTW, I've just removed the pre-installed Windows 95 from my new Toshiba Satellite! I spent a few days experimenting with W95 just to get the feel of it (I'd only used Windows 3.0 in the distant past), and was struck by how cumbersome it was after Linux. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk "The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on..." - Edward Fitzgerald
Fwd: RE: lpr printing difficulties
>From: "Brian Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: lpr printing difficulties >Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:12:06 -0600 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 >Importance: Normal > >Anyone know anything about what Kent West is referring to (see below) about >input filters, bounce queues, etc? Yes, I am using PCL on my HP 4 plus, and >trying to get netscape (Postscript?) to print to it. Also, still having >trouble just using lpr to print normal documents. > > Brian Morgan wrote: >> >Having trouble printing using lpr. I assume I'm doing this >> right. I type >> >"lpr -Pprintername FILENAME" and I get a cover page, a page >> DESCRIBING the >> >desired file, and then a blank sheet. It doesn't actually print the >document I've selected. > >When I print from >> Netscape, it either >> >prints hundreds of blank pages, or hundreds of pages with jumbled text. >> >Here's my printcap entry: >> > >> >kingsnake|laserjet 4 in computer room >> >:lp=:\ >> >:rm=kingsnake >> >:rp=raw >> >:sd=/var/spool/lpd/kingsnake >> >:mx#0 >> >:sh >> > >> >I've also tried :rp=text, with same results. Any suggestions? >> >Also: Is there anything special you need to do to get netscape to >> >print >> >specific frames? >> > >> >Thanks >> >Kent West wrote: >> >> I THINK you need to feed your output through a filter to convert >> Netscape's >> postscript output to a format more suitable for your HP printer (PCL?). >> However, a remote printer entry doesn't go through an input filter, so you >> need to use a "bounce queue". I don't know enough about it to >> give you much >> more than that, but maybe that's a hint.
Re: Installing wmaker and libc6_2.0.7u-7.1
On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Phillip Deackes wrote: > dpkg: considering removing libstdc++2.8 in favour of libc6 ... > dpkg: no, cannot remove libstdc++2.8 (--auto-deconfigure will help): > netstd pre-depends on libstdc++2.8 (>= 2.90.26-1) > libstdc++2.8 is to be removed. > dpkg: regarding libc6_2.0.7u-7.1.deb containing libc6: > libc6 conflicts with libstdc++2.8 (<< 2.90.29-2) > libstdc++2.8 (version 2.90.29-1) is installed. > dpkg: error processing libc6_2.0.7u-7.1.deb (--install): > conflicting packages - not installing libc6 > Errors were encountered while processing: > libc6_2.0.7u-7.1.deb > > What should I do? First, you have to install the new version of libstdc++2.8, then libc6. The old version of libstdc++2.8 conflicts with the new version of libc6 (vice versa), but several other applications may depend on libstdc++2.8, so it would not be wise to remove it completely. Good luck! Later, Tamas
Re: Configuring modem and connecting to the net
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: > Horacio writes: > > > BTW, how can I give a normal user permission to use the smail/sendmail > > command? > > What are you trying to do? I can think of no reason that a user would ever > need to type 'smail' or 'sendmail'. I don't get it, I am supposed not to use root except for (re)configuring programs/the system,... so, every time I want to get my mail downloaded I have to enter as root, or else I can't run the smail or sendmail command as a normal user. May be there's a way of doing it automatically by writing it somewhere (probably the same with fetchmail)? Cheers -- Un saludo, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trouble with diaresis and ssharp key
Stefan Gundel dixit: > > Hello, everybody, > > I am presently experiencing the following problem: > > On my hamm installation I get only beeps when pressing the diaresis keys > on my german keyboard (i.e. adiaresis, odiaresis, udiaresis). Pressing the > ssharp key gives me an output similar to . The consoles and X > terminals behave similarly. Issuing commands like "loadkeys ..." or > defining a new xmodmap map didn't improve things. On the other hand I can > display documents containing these characters and can also use the keys > within editors like emacs or vi. This is my /etc/.profile file configured for the Spanish keyboard (ie. dieresis, accents, n~,...). All you should do is changing: export LC_ALL=es_ES for: export LC_ALL=es_DE I hope it works. Tschüss (sorry, no eszet in my keyboard). # /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for bash(1). PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games" PS1="\\$ " export PATH PS1 export LC_ALL=es_ES umask 002 -- Un saludo, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing wmaker and libc6_2.0.7u-7.1
Hi. I am trying to install the wmaker_0.20.3-1.deb and libwmaker0_0.20.3-1.deb but need to install libc6_2.0.7u-7.1.deb first to satisfy dependencies. I downloaded libc6_2.0.7u-7.1.deb and tried to install this, but get further errors telling me that libc6_2.0.7u-7.1.deb cannot be installed: dpkg: considering removing libstdc++2.8 in favour of libc6 ... dpkg: no, cannot remove libstdc++2.8 (--auto-deconfigure will help): netstd pre-depends on libstdc++2.8 (>= 2.90.26-1) libstdc++2.8 is to be removed. dpkg: regarding libc6_2.0.7u-7.1.deb containing libc6: libc6 conflicts with libstdc++2.8 (<< 2.90.29-2) libstdc++2.8 (version 2.90.29-1) is installed. dpkg: error processing libc6_2.0.7u-7.1.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing libc6 Errors were encountered while processing: libc6_2.0.7u-7.1.deb What should I do? Thanks for any help you guys can give. -- Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux v.2.0
Re: Installing Debian???
At 01:22 PM 12/16/1998 -0500, Sunil N. Goda wrote: > I am very, very new to linux and attempting to install Debian on my PC. >I am having 3 independent problems that I hope someone can help me with. > 1) I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive, but when I try to install the drivers >for it during the "install drivers phase" of installation, I keep >getting the message installation failed. It seems like the drive is >supported (there are options for a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive and an Mitsumi >extended drive). I am not sure if it is failing because I am giving it >the wrong command line options (specifying IRQ and IO, which admittedly I >am unsure about) or what. Sorry, I can't help with this. > 2) I have an SMC 1211TX network card, and I am trying to use the >rtl8139 driver for it, but I keep receiving an installation failed message >as well. I know that someone else has successfully used this driver with >this card, but he was not using Debian. To get it to work, he ended up >hacking the drivers a little and compiling it into the kernel. My >question is: after only the base install, is it possible to compile the >kernel? My original plan was to configure my network card, and then >download packages through ftp, but I may need to compile code before I can >configure my network card. Sorry, I can't help with this. > 3) During the base install, I keep getting a message that says "There >was a problem extracting the base system from /target/base2_0.tgz" after I >have entered all 5 floppy disks with the base system on them (without >receiving any disk errors). I used rawrite2 under a DOS shell in win95 to >write to the disks (I no longer have Win95 on my computer), so what could >the problem be? My suspicion is that one of the floppies had a bad spot on it and so the file got corrupted. I'd suggest recreating the floppies (using different, good floppies) and trying again. > Thank You, >Sunil > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < >/dev/null
Re: switch off Debian
shutdown -h now Then wait until you see a message informing you that the system has shutdown. -Original Message- From: Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Michael Wahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Wednesday, 16 December 1998 7:22 Subject: Re: switch off Debian >On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Kent West wrote: > >> On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Michael Wahl wrote: >> >> > Hello out there, >> > >> > After all I finally installed DEBIAN. >> > And, what else, I have a question: >> > When I successfully logout, a knew login appears. Know I switch off the >> > computer. When I switch it on again, there is a check for some stuff. >> > Is this right? Or have I not correctly finished it? >> > >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Michael, Trier, Germany >> > >> >> No, you need to do a >> shutdown -r now >> and then wait until the machine starts to reboot before powering it off. > >Or better yet, use 'shutdown -h' or 'halt' which will just shut down >without starting a reboot. > >Bob > > >Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: lpr printing difficulties
At 12:49 PM 12/16/1998 -0600, Brian Morgan wrote: >Having trouble printing using lpr. I assume I'm doing this right. I type >"lpr -Pprintername FILENAME" and I get a cover page, a page DESCRIBING the >desired file, and then a blank sheet. When I print from Netscape, it either >prints hundreds of blank pages, or hundreds of pages with jumbled text. >Here's my printcap entry: > >kingsnake|laserjet 4 in computer room > :lp=:\ > :rm=kingsnake > :rp=raw > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/kingsnake > :mx#0 > :sh > >I've also tried :rp=text, with same results. Any suggestions? >3. Is there anything special you need to do to get netscape to print >specific frames? > >Thanks > > == > >Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Computer Support Specialisthttp://brian.greenville.edu >IBM Mobile Systems Specialist 618-664-2800 ext. 4241 >Information Technology 618-338-4963 pager >Greenville College, IL ICQ: 13798434 > >"1 ... 2 ... 5!" > --King Arthur I THINK you need to feed your output through a filter to convert Netscape's postscript output to a format more suitable for your HP printer (PCL?). However, a remote printer entry doesn't go through an input filter, so you need to use a "bounce queue". I don't know enough about it to give you much more than that, but maybe that's a hint.
Re: /deb/audio and Plug and Play
Shaleh wrote: > > On 16-Dec-98 Jeff Browning wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > Just about finished "totally installing" Linux. Need some help with my > > sound card. I compiled a new kernel with sound support. When the kernel > > boots up it says "Sound Initialized." But when I try to run a program > > that uses sound it says "/dev/audio device not configured." What do I > > do? And one other thing. How do I enable Plug and Pray support? TIA! > > > > If it is an isa card, you need isapnptools. > If your motherboard is a recent one, check the BIOS. It may support PnP initialization at boot-up by the BIOS. It will save you a lot of trouble. -- Ed C.
Re: Debian Hamm used for a Linux Cluster and nobody noticed?
On Sat, 12 Dec, 1998 à 01:18:48AM +0100, Thomas Adams wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 04:50:22PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Heute ist nicht alle Tage, ich komme wieder, keine Frage!!! > > Toll! Der Maus! (IIRC) > > Actually, most Germans know this from the Pink Panther cartoon show. I doubt > that this was a reference to Der Maus. Hmm, does anybody out there in Germany > know Art Spiegelman at all? :) > Actually I only know MAUS (published with this title in France) and I rank it among the ten top cartoons. -- ( )- Laurent PICOULEAU -( ) /~\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /~\ | \)Linux : mettez un pingouin dans votre ordinateur !(/ | \_|_Seuls ceux qui ne l'utilisent pas en disent du mal. _|_/
Re: Lowmemory Installation Help
On Sun, 13 Dec, 1998 à 02:32:05PM -0800, Sean wrote: > I am currently attempting to install debian 2.0 (hamm) on a > 486-25MHz computer with 4MB of memory using floppy disks. [...] > Lilo says I have bad disk geometry 0/0/0. Which is wierd because in > the partioning program run by the lowmem disk, I had to set the > cyclinders,head, and sectors through the experts menu. After writing It's simpler to give these parameters when prompted for : hda=826,16,63 or to set them in your bios. If the latter is not possible, you'll have to had an append line in your /etc/lilo.conf -- ( )- Laurent PICOULEAU -( ) /~\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /~\ | \)Linux : mettez un pingouin dans votre ordinateur !(/ | \_|_Seuls ceux qui ne l'utilisent pas en disent du mal. _|_/
Re: Cyrillics and handling
Tried that as wellit changes the font nicely in my buttons and menus in Netscape, but doesnt do for Also, I played around with Netscape.ad , saved in my ~/ Still no go. Any alternative ways to 'cyrillize' Netscape? Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
Re: Cyrillics and handling
Hi, Andrew! I tried to make it work but failed miserably. Here is what I put in .Xresources: (from http://metalab.unc.edu/sergei/Software/Software.html) ! ! Netscape russification ! Netscape*fontList: -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r Netscape*XmTextField.fontList: -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r Netscape*XmText.fontList: -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r Netscape*XmList*fontList: -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r Netscape*menuBar*fontList: -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r Netscape*topArea*XmTextField.fontList:\ -*-times-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r Netscape*XmLGrid*fontList:\ -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r,\ -*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r=BOLD,\ -*-helvetica-medium-o-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r=ITALIC Does not solve the problem... > Well, lets see. > I have xruskb installed. > And I've been playing with Netscape.ad file for a while now, and > Xresources > Nothing seems to work. > Here is what I did: > 1. Got Cronyx fonts. Installed them, xset +fp'ed them. > 2. From this point I can read russian homepages, providing that > I change Fonts/Encoding. > 3. Installed xruskb. Pretty much what I did. > > Maybe Xmodmap is messed up? > Nah I see that upper 128 characters show up. In XEmacs it also works perfectly. Well, so far looks like a dead end to me. Sasha.
Re: ??? how to TOTALLY remove KDE ???
Joe Emenaker wrote: > > > when I tried to remove KDE via dselect, > > it didn't remove a bunch of directories because they "weren't empty" > > or something) > > I make a motion that dpkg should maintain a log of all of the "orphan" > directories that it leaves behind because they're not empty so that we can > go in later and clean them out either that or have the option for some > interactivity where the 'remove' script would 'ls' the contents of the > directory and then get a yes/no on whether to purge it. > > - Joe > I see this occasionally. What's real weird is that at least half the time I see this 'error' the directory in question really *is* empty. -- Ed C.
Re: Linux Distributions in latest german news magazine "FOCUS"
On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Steffen R . Mueller wrote: > Hi all, > > the latest german news magazine "FOCUS" has a short review of Linux > mentioning the Halloween papers from Micro$oft. Below the article there was > a small table mentioning Caldera, Debian, RedHat and SuSe. > > SuSe got an A while Debian only got a D. The article didn't mention any > test methods or criteria. "Focus" copied a test of "PC Professionell" as they mentioned in the upper-left corner of the table :-) -- Heute ist nicht alle Tage, ich komme wieder, keine Frage!!! Joerg
Re: Mutt colours
Subject: Mutt colours Date: Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 04:44:29PM + In reply to:Patrick Colbeck Quoting Patrick Colbeck([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Reply-To: > Hi > > This isn't really important but here goes anyway. I have over the last week > or so being introducing myself to Debian and playing with Hamm and Slink. At > one point my Mutt mailer was running with a nice colour setup (not one I made > rather it was installed by one of the Mutt debs I used) that used quite a lot > of green rather than the usual red and blue setup. I have reinstalled my > machine with Hamm and a few bits of Slink and now it has gone back to the old > red and blue config. Does anyone know where the other colour scheme came from > as it was much easier on the eyes. > > For the life of me I can't figure out which mutt dep it was in. > > Pat > Pat The colors (sorry colours) are setup in your .muttrc file. The Manual covers it very well. Here is an example from my .muttrc color attachment green black # .. color treeredblack # index color header brightyellow black "^Cc:" color header brightyellow black "^Date:"# pager header color headercolor4 color6 "^Subject:" color indicator white blue # index color normal white black # pager body color quoted brightyellow black # pager body color quoted1 brightcyan black color quoted2 brightgreen black color signature redblack # pager body color status white blue # index status bar default: black white color index red default "~z>10k" HTH -- The problem with program verifiers is that they tend to cheat at toy problems in order to get results. ___ Wayne T. Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
APT-GET and SOCKS proxy firewall
I'm having a bit of trouble with apt-get. Background: slink install from HDD connected to LAN without trouble installed socks-client via sneakernet and configured per the man page, setting http and ftp for port 1080 in socks.conf can successfully pass through firewall with minicom read the man page for sources.list and tried both set $http_proxy and http://proxy:port/ apt-get generates "403 Proxy denies fulfilling the request" when trying to update Packages.gz There is not enough space on my LAN ftp point to drop the Debian archive and the PC has no CD-ROM. Help???
Re: Running seperate eth0 & ppp0 networks
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 01:19:41PM -0800, Ian Eure wrote: > Ok. Let's say I have a linux box on an ethernet. It's ip is > 192.168.111.55. The router on the ethernet is 192.168.111.1. Let's say I > have a web server on 192.168.111.55, accessible from outside my local > network. Let's further say that I set up ppp the way you described, with > a network route to my localnet (route add -net 192.168.111.0 netmask > 255.255.255.0 dev eth0) and the default set to the ppp0 interface (route > add default gw ip.addyof.ppp.peer dev ppp0). What happens when a request > for a web page comes in? Does the page get sent back from the ethernet > interface, with the ip 192.168.111.55, or through the ppp0 interface > with the dynamic address of the dialup? Someone else suggested making ppp the default. I suggested adding a static route so that only traffic to the isp would go over ppp0: > > > > > > route add -net 130.2.0.0 dev ppp0 In my suggestion the default route remains eth0. The only time a web page would be returned over ppp0 is if the web browser was on 130.2.x.x. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: /deb/audio and Plug and Play
On 16-Dec-98 Jeff Browning wrote: > Hey all, > > Just about finished "totally installing" Linux. Need some help with my > sound card. I compiled a new kernel with sound support. When the kernel > boots up it says "Sound Initialized." But when I try to run a program > that uses sound it says "/dev/audio device not configured." What do I > do? And one other thing. How do I enable Plug and Pray support? TIA! > If it is an isa card, you need isapnptools.
Re: Problems with ppp server
>Autoppp works and I get a >succesful PAP login. After that though, the home-client machine and >the work-server don't seem to communicate the local and remote >addresses properly - resulting in the home machine giving up saying >that it "Could not determine local IP address" and hangs up ppp with >"No network protocols running" Your ppp server needs to know what IP address it can give out to your machine. However, it looks like you might already be doing this. I did notice something a little odd, though... Your home machine, not having an IP address, asks the work-server if it can use "0.0.0.0"... [HOME] sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Your work machine knows that this is silly and it sends back a ConfNak (to request number "id=1"), telling your home machine that using that address is absolutely out of the question. However, the nice thing it does is that is says (to your home machine) "Psstt... ask me if you can use 192.168.1.3"... [WORK] sent [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 ] However, the strange thing is that your home machine never shows reception of this in the logs. It just keeps asking for 0.0.0.0 and your work-server keeps trying to issue it an IP. Another thing that's wierd, is that the home machine is acknowledging the work-server's IP address, and the work server is SEEING those acknowledgements... [WORK] rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 ] but it keeps asking for it. Strange, indeed. My only suggestion would be to try it without the asyncmap option (which should cause ppp to use the desperate asyncmap of 0x... which you could also try explicitly). If that works, start trying turning off a bunch of the bits in the asyncmap to see of the problem returns. Eventually, you may boil it down to the one or two characters than need to be escaped. - Joe
Re: strange modem behaviour
Subject: strange modem behaviour Date: Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 01:43:13PM +0100 In reply to:Lukas Eppler Quoting Lukas Eppler([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > When using my modem by ppp, everything works fine, always. But when > trying to dial with the following script (which I plan to use out of > a database), it sometimes hangs at the stty command. I have a Laptop > using a ClipperCom World V.34 PCMCIA Modem. Removing it and > reinserting does not solve the problem. I am not sure if the ppp > command shuts down the possibility to access it. With minicom I can > talk to the modem even when the dial script here is not working > anymore. It has nothing to do with blacklisting. > > Any hints? > > #!/bin/bash > stty 115200 echo "AT&F0M3" >/dev/modem > echo "ATDT $1" >/dev/modem > sleep 8 > echo "ATH" >/dev/modem > > in my /etc/chatscrips/provider: > ABORTBUSY > ABORT"NO CARRIER" > ABORTVOICE > ABORT "NO DIALTONE" > "" AT&F0%VM0 Try "" "AT&F0%VM0" > "OK" "ATDT 0840 840 888" > ogin T44 > word \wonttell > > in my etc/ppp/peers/provider: > noauth > defaultroute > /dev/modem > 115200 > > -- > http://www.fear.ch telnet://mud.fear.ch: finger://[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Bülachstrasse 7a, 8057 Zürich, +41 1 313 07 87 (home) > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > -- Real computer scientists don't comment their code. The identifiers are so long they can't afford the disk space. ___ Wayne T. Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
/deb/audio and Plug and Play
Hey all, Just about finished "totally installing" Linux. Need some help with my sound card. I compiled a new kernel with sound support. When the kernel boots up it says "Sound Initialized." But when I try to run a program that uses sound it says "/dev/audio device not configured." What do I do? And one other thing. How do I enable Plug and Pray support? TIA! Jeff __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Ensoniq Audio PCI card
Ian wrote: > > Yo- > > Does anyone have this card working? If so, how? You either need OSS/Linux, which is commercial (www.4front-tech.com) or use the ALSA sound drivers. I believe there are patches for the 2.0.xx kernels somewhere, it comes standard in 2.1.xxx kernels. -- __ | ian eure, network admin, freelance security consultant, and | | manically depressed paranoid schizophrenic, at your service. | ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://minion.org ; : raw speed = 105.6 wpm with 4.5% errors : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
RE: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
I have to totally agree with Colin. I have spent many nights up with linux until 5 or 6am, so tired that I see double images. Then something clicks and everything I could figure out starts working!! As for my experiences with other Linux dists. I have used Red Hat 5.1 and Open Linux 1.2 and the truth as I see it Red Hat and Open Linux are very easy to install. But, in my experience, they are slower and not as nice to configure and manipulate as Debian. Everything is graphical and that nice but hard to find out what exactly is going on. I think Red Hat is for people who want to run Linux but not configure and thing (sort of a Windows 95 thing). I think Red Hat will probably be distro to succeed in the mainstream since anyone can pop it in and go. If on the other hand you want to learn Linux and what makes it tick and have an OS that you dictate DEBIAN is the way. Just more of my 2 cents. Rod.. -Original Message- From: Colin Boyd [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) Develope a strong love for Linux. So strong that nothing will kill it. 2) Make coffee, and stay up drinking it and hacking at linux until you can no longer clearly see your monitor. Usually this is at about 4-5am. 3) If something doesn't work, forget about it for the time being and move on to something else. If you allow yourself to get lost in linux, it's quite enjoyable. Just wander through your system and check out anything that looks interesting. Read...Read...Read...anything related to linux that you can get your hands on. 4) I've always found it helpful to keep in mind that if something isn't working...most of the time it's your fault. Just keep the faith that Linux is Good and that eventually you will get it working. As you work with it, your knowledge of it will grow exponentially. -Colin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: X keeps crashing?
arch wrote: > > Hi > > Ive been very happy with debian so far. But the only thing that im not > unhappy about > is why X keeps crashing on me.ive been promised that linux is a much stable > OS. > > My card is a s3 virge/gx2 > running at 24 bit with a virtual resolution of 1028 768 > using the SVGA server > the server would load and apps would start > but somewhere in the middle of nowhere..the whole system hangs > ctrl+del+alt doesnt rebooot and system or any other keys > > can anyone please help me with this problem? Is your card agp or pci? If it's an AGP card, you need to add the line `Chipset s3_virge' to the Devices section for your card in /etc/X11/XF86Config. It's a bug in XFree86 3.3.2.3, and is fixed in the 3.3.3 release. -- __ | ian eure, network admin, freelance security consultant, and | | manically depressed paranoid schizophrenic, at your service. | ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://minion.org ; : raw speed = 105.6 wpm with 4.5% errors : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Re: Running seperate eth0 & ppp0 networks
Lee Bradshaw wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 10:19:35AM -0800, Ian Eure wrote: > > Lee Bradshaw wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 03:29:04AM -0600, John C. Ellingboe wrote: > > > > Lee Bradshaw wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 1998 at 03:29:49PM +, Ian Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > what I wish to do is set up my PPP connection so that (when it is > > > > > > up) all > > > > > > requests for the ISPs network is routed via ppp0, whilst all other > > > > > > traffic > > > > > > is routed via eth0 > > > > > > > > > > > > (Assume that my academic lan is the class B 129.1 and my ISP is the > > > > > > class > > > > > > B 130.2) > > > > > > > > > > Try something like: > > > > > > > > > > route add -net 130.2.0.0 dev ppp0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > This will limit your access to just the 130.2.0.0 network over ppp. > > > > > > That's what he wanted -- isp network over ppp0, everything else over eth0. > > > I suspect your ppp0/eth0 setup is more common, but it's now what he > > > needed. > > > > > > > Do > > > > > > > > route add -net [your local net address] dev eth0 > > > > > > > > and use the "default route" option for ppp to get to everything on the > > > > internet. I ran this way for some time and it worked fine for access > > > > to either route. > > Ah but, let's say that you also have file sharing or some other > > service on your system, and that it is visible to the outside world > > through your ethernet. Will the services still work, or will the system > > send out the syn/ack packet (in reply to the syn for requesting a > > connection) on the ethernet, or over the ppp? > > I'm not sure I understand the question. Addresses in the 130.2.0.0 net > are routed through the ppp0 interface. Everything else is routed through > eth0. > > In general requests from the eth0 interface will be serviced through > eth0 and those from ppp0 will be serviced through ppp0. There are two > wierd cases. 132.2.x.x addresses requesting services through eth0 - the > reply will go through ppp0. Non 132.2.x.x addresses requesting services > through ppp0 - the reply will go through eth0. > > If you have a specific problem in mind, please provide an example using > the original ip addresses - 132.2.0.0 (isp) ppp0, 129.1.0.0 (local) > eth0, default eth0. Ok. Let's say I have a linux box on an ethernet. It's ip is 192.168.111.55. The router on the ethernet is 192.168.111.1. Let's say I have a web server on 192.168.111.55, accessible from outside my local network. Let's further say that I set up ppp the way you described, with a network route to my localnet (route add -net 192.168.111.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0) and the default set to the ppp0 interface (route add default gw ip.addyof.ppp.peer dev ppp0). What happens when a request for a web page comes in? Does the page get sent back from the ethernet interface, with the ip 192.168.111.55, or through the ppp0 interface with the dynamic address of the dialup? -- __ | ian eure, network admin, freelance security consultant, and | | manically depressed paranoid schizophrenic, at your service. | ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://minion.org ; : raw speed = 105.6 wpm with 4.5% errors : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Re: ??? how to TOTALLY remove KDE ???
> when I tried to remove KDE via dselect, > it didn't remove a bunch of directories because they "weren't empty" > or something) I make a motion that dpkg should maintain a log of all of the "orphan" directories that it leaves behind because they're not empty so that we can go in later and clean them out either that or have the option for some interactivity where the 'remove' script would 'ls' the contents of the directory and then get a yes/no on whether to purge it. - Joe
Re: Install on Adaptec 7890?
Thanks for the tips and advices I got. In the end, I did not do exactly as any of those suggested, but came up with a new twist. 1) Took the rescue and drivers disk images from slink, there were finally the 1.44M versions. These worked for the Adaptec 7890, but the install program is buggy: it returns to the beginning and starts asking again color or monocrome after the disk partitions are created and it should start installing. 2) Took the rescue disk from Debian 2.0, removed from the floppy the files linux and root.bin, and replaced those with the versions from slink rescue disk. I used an existing Linux machine, and the mdel and mcopy commands from mtools package to do this. 3) Used this self made rescue disk and Debian 2.0 drivers disk to install hamm. Everything worked. So, the problem got solved, but me and my collegue spent the morning making floppies. The end is not completely happy, however. This Dell machine was bought specifically for Linux workstation, and Dell advertices they support Linux. We solved problems with the SCSI adapters, but the display adapter was Diamond Permedia 2, and XFree 3.3.2 does not support that adapter. We decided it is not worth our time to struggle any more with this Dell and returned it to shop. However, when Debian 2.1 is out, it supports the Adaptec 7890 SCSI adapter. And further however, XFree 3.3.3, which was released in November, supports Permedia 2. We could not find any Debian or Red Hat packages for XFree 3.3.3, and did not consider Permedia worth the trouble. Dell does not sell this model with a display adapter we would like (for example, Matrox G200), so it easier for us to get a clone machine with the components we specify. For those that have Dell Precision 410, you can 1) wait until Debian 2.1 is out AND XFree 3.3.3 is available as Debian packages, 2) Use some commercial X Server. My understanding is they already support Permedia 2 or 3) use the rescue disk trick and compile XFree 3.3.3 or install it from tar files. If there is interest, I can upload disk image of the rescue disk we created. Email me if there is interest. But it was quite easy to copy the two files from floppy to floppy. On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 05:53:56AM -0500, Aaron Stromas wrote: > > Problem: Dell Precision 410 has two SCSI adapters on the motherboard, > > Adaptec 7880 with CD-ROM connected and Adaptec 7890 with the hard > > drive. Now installing Debian 2.0 fails. It sees the CD-ROM but not the > > hard drive. > > > > It seems this is because the Debian 2.0 Rescue disk has kernel 2.0.34, > > and this kernel does not support Adaptec 7890. I looked at 2.0.36 > > kernel, which seems to have this support. I compiled a new kernel with > > 2.0.36 sources, and got boot-floppies Debian package, but have not > > figured out how to get this new kernel on a Rescue Disk. > > > > Does some kind soul already have a Rescue disk with support for > > Adapted 7890? Or can someone give me some advice on making the disk. > > > > -- > > Tapio Lehtonen > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > i have a similar problem. i used the rescue image from > http://www.debian.org/~adric/aic7xxx/5.1.5/ . however, i swapped one > problem for the other. once i come up under new kernel i can no longer > use the cdrom, nor can i use the network. if you ever get a good rescue > image i'd appreciate a copy. > -- > Aaron Stromas | "Tick-tick-tick!!!... ja, Pantani is weg" > Oracle Corp.| BRTN commentator, L'Alpe d'Huez, 1995 Tour > de France > +1 703 917 48 72 | > -- Tapio Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Debian???
Hey, When your installation starts up (before it asks you if you want to use color or not), check for a line that says: "hdc (or hdd, it matters what slot the wire from your CD-ROM to your I/O board) Mitsumi ATAPI detected" or something like that. If you see a line like that, you don't need any drivers. The kernel can work with the CD-ROM on its own. HTH! Jeff >Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:22:05 -0500 (EST) >From: "Sunil N. Goda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Installing Debian??? > > I am very, very new to linux and attempting to install Debian on my PC. >I am having 3 independent problems that I hope someone can help me with. > 1) I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive, but when I try to install the drivers >for it during the "install drivers phase" of installation, I keep >getting the message installation failed. It seems like the drive is >supported (there are options for a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive and an Mitsumi >extended drive). I am not sure if it is failing because I am giving it >the wrong command line options (specifying IRQ and IO, which admittedly I >am unsure about) or what. > > 2) I have an SMC 1211TX network card, and I am trying to use the >rtl8139 driver for it, but I keep receiving an installation failed message >as well. I know that someone else has successfully used this driver with >this card, but he was not using Debian. To get it to work, he ended up >hacking the drivers a little and compiling it into the kernel. My >question is: after only the base install, is it possible to compile the >kernel? My original plan was to configure my network card, and then >download packages through ftp, but I may need to compile code before I can >configure my network card. > > 3) During the base install, I keep getting a message that says "There >was a problem extracting the base system from /target/base2_0.tgz" after I >have entered all 5 floppy disks with the base system on them (without >receiving any disk errors). I used rawrite2 under a DOS shell in win95 to >write to the disks (I no longer have Win95 on my computer), so what could >the problem be? > > Thank You, >Sunil > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
At 12:26 PM 12/16/1998 -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: >kent komplained, > >> At 11:28 AM 12/16/1998 -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: >> >kent kalled, > >> >> >ANyway, the easiest way I've found to install X is XF86Setup rather >> >> >than xf86Setup >> >> ^^^ <-- xf86config > >> >that's the configuration file; XF86Setup makes it > >> >rick > >> Unless I'm mistaken, and I could very well be, XF86Setup is the graphical >> setup utility, and xf86config is the text-based setup utility, and >> XF86Config is the file created by those two utilities. > >ack, yes. Hmm, didn't XF86Setup used to be XF86Config as well? I seem >to recall the two config programs having the same name, save for >captialization . . . Dunno. If so, that was before my time, which was a LONG, LONG 3 months or so ago. :-)
Re: how to put apache under hosts.{allow,deny}'s control?
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 02:04:04PM -0500, Shaleh wrote:
> Subject says it all. How can I put non-inetd services under
> hosts.{allow,deny}'s control?
If you really want that, the best thing to do is run Apache from inetd.
According to the manpage it can be run that way.
Regards,
Jeff
RE:XDM questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, John Greer wrote: > I recently ran dselect for the first time and it found that xbase was > not fully configured on my system. Funny that I have been running > X with no problem. Anyway it asked if I wanted to use xdm and i > foolishly said yes even though I already was using kdm. The result > is that on boot up the machine now gives me a message WARNING: > you can not run xdm and kdm > > The it loads kdm. I removed all the links in the rc.# directories and > also the xdm in th init.d directory but the WARNING still pops up. > How can I get rid of this?? Edit /etc/X11/config (or whatever that file is called...I don't have access to my box right now). You'll see lines like: run-xdm run-kdm just comment out one of them, or change it to: dont-run-xdm > > On another note I want to add some more memory to my machine > and I wondered if there is anything that I need to do to make Linux > see the additional memory. TIA > Probably not. Add the memory, and if linux doesn't see it, then there's a kernel parameter that needs to be passed in from LILO. I've never needed to use it, so I don't know the specifics. noah PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNngOjodCcpBjGWoFAQGdIAP+KjY6KHAh//1Cin6/kuqssya7bIqsTYIx 6Z122AIwlTeXG0JIcLqcCla4XNsdmpC2hX0Ti6bdZjUAvHlZy0Hz9/QcNszhq3Yt KJAcfjJnKIiqOVTj3nrSODxoc9UrFbThNDVFdOldza28sD5jhVM5E8PyN9GXD4KP Hs7U9JNWrOY= =bUtw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: Socket programming
On 16-Dec-98 Lazar Fleysher wrote: > HI Everyone, > > This is not a debian-specific question, but have no-one else to ask. I > have been playing with sockets and can not seem to figure out how to use > select() system call. I am trying to monitor wether a socket is ready for > read and write. Read-monitor works ok, but wrtie --not. When the other > side closes the connection select still reports that the socket is ready > to write. Maybe i chould use some option in setsockopt or something. > > Also if some one could suggest a good reference on the sugject, I would be > very grateful. > Zoro, go to a local book store and buy W. Richard Stevens amazing book, Unix network programming volume 1. Everything (I mean everything) you ever wanted to know about sockets and network programming is in this book. It cost me $45 US -- it is worth every cent. W. Richard Stevens is one of the top CS people -- up there with Knuth in my book.
Re: Problem with Compuserve and Fetchmail
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 04:15:51PM +0100, Dieter Jäger wrote: > I am trying to use fetchmail to receive mail from Compuserve. > Everything works fine except that sometimes, when I get a mail from > the > Compuserve Postmaster with an Sender of "@" or even "", because there > is no > domain, fetchmail refuses to get any further mail. > This blocks the whole mail transfer and I have to get the mail > manually via some > mail client. > > Is there a way to get fetchmail reading beyond those unqualified mails > ? I had similar problems with fetchmail before upgrading to 4.6.4-1 (from slink, I don't know what the current version is). What version of fetchmail are you using? -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
Kent, just as a little background...I started off with slackware...It actually proved to be a little to difficult for my tastes..then on the advice of a friend (What's up karl?) I switched to debian. It was like a godsend. Things worked well, and I have a great time with it. Yet, just for kicks a few weeks ago I installed RedHat 5.0 just to see what all the talk was about...and I still can't figure it out. RedHat is very easy to get installed. But you don't learn anything about what it's doing. It's also considerably slower, at least on my system. (P200 98M ram) The best way I've learned to work with linux is 1) Develope a strong love for Linux. So strong that nothing will kill it. 2) Make coffee, and stay up drinking it and hacking at linux until you can no longer clearly see your monitor. Usually this is at about 4-5am. 3) If something doesn't work, forget about it for the time being and move on to something else. If you allow yourself to get lost in linux, it's quite enjoyable. Just wander through your system and check out anything that looks interesting. Read...Read...Read...anything related to linux that you can get your hands on. 4) I've always found it helpful to keep in mind that if something isn't working...most of the time it's your fault. Just keep the faith that Linux is Good and that eventually you will get it working. As you work with it, your knowledge of it will grow exponentially. -Colin
RE: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
Actually, I thought this way until I loaded Debian 2.0 - it automates X and ppp setup quite well... Nothing like Debian 1.3 (which was almost fully manual for both). It also has several "sample" configurations available, which loads preconfigured sets of packages depending on your intended purpose (development, games, mailserver, etc.)... > I agree with you Kent. Debian is much too difficult to start out with. > Redhat removes a lot of options to give you a working system without much > configuration on your part. Later, when you are shooting for "guru-ship" > you can go to Debian and really get into it. Both systems are a > tremendous amount of fun!!! > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, KTB wrote: > > > Hi, thanks to all the people who have offered advice with configuring > > X-windows. I have not been successful and am brain dead at this point. > > I also tried hooking up to the internet with the same result. I chose > > the debian release because I wanted to learn more about computers (I > > have only used a pc off and on for the past year) and I like the > > philosophy behind Debian. I am wondering if Debian is just too > > difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try > > Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to > > Debian. Does this sound like a logical progression to anyone? I don't > > have experience with either one so I just don't know the best course to > > take. > > Thanks, > > Kent > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > /dev/null > > > > >
Socket programming
HI Everyone, This is not a debian-specific question, but have no-one else to ask. I have been playing with sockets and can not seem to figure out how to use select() system call. I am trying to monitor wether a socket is ready for read and write. Read-monitor works ok, but wrtie --not. When the other side closes the connection select still reports that the socket is ready to write. Maybe i chould use some option in setsockopt or something. Also if some one could suggest a good reference on the sugject, I would be very grateful. Thank you, ZORO Take these broken wings and learn to fly... ///|\\\ 0 0 ( . )http://pages.nyu.edu/~rqf6512 - | |
RE:XDM questions
I recently ran dselect for the first time and it found that xbase was not fully configured on my system. Funny that I have been running X with no problem. Anyway it asked if I wanted to use xdm and i foolishly said yes even though I already was using kdm. The result is that on boot up the machine now gives me a message WARNING: you can not run xdm and kdm The it loads kdm. I removed all the links in the rc.# directories and also the xdm in th init.d directory but the WARNING still pops up. How can I get rid of this?? On another note I want to add some more memory to my machine and I wondered if there is anything that I need to do to make Linux see the additional memory. TIA John
Re: apache: "httpd: cannot determine local host name."
>I installed apache, but at the end of the configuration stage it failed to >start, giving an error. I ran "apacheconfig", and got the following output >(essentially the same error): > > >Save these changes to the configuration files? [Y/n] > >Rotated `/etc/apache/httpd.conf' at Sat Dec 12 09:53:35 EST 1998. >Restart Apache now? [Y/n] >Stopping apache with apachectl ... >httpd: cannot determine local host name. >Use the ServerName directive to set it manually. >/usr/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started > > >I don't know why it should have trouble finding my hostname. It's right >there in /etc/hostname. I don't know how to use the 'ServerName' directive, >whatever that is. > To set the ServerName directive you put "ServerName your.ip.address" in one of the files in /etc/apache. Most likely in httpd conf. If you plan on using apache as a real web server...(rather than for reading you man pages in your browser) you would be doing yourself a big favor to read the apache documentation carefully. Also if this is going to be a production web server, you may want to disable telnet and ftp acess to it..I think you can use ssh instead. -Colin
lpr printing difficulties
Having trouble printing using lpr. I assume I'm doing this right. I type "lpr -Pprintername FILENAME" and I get a cover page, a page DESCRIBING the desired file, and then a blank sheet. When I print from Netscape, it either prints hundreds of blank pages, or hundreds of pages with jumbled text. Here's my printcap entry: kingsnake|laserjet 4 in computer room :lp=:\ :rm=kingsnake :rp=raw :sd=/var/spool/lpd/kingsnake :mx#0 :sh I've also tried :rp=text, with same results. Any suggestions? 3. Is there anything special you need to do to get netscape to print specific frames? Thanks == Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Support Specialist http://brian.greenville.edu IBM Mobile Systems Specialist 618-664-2800 ext. 4241 Information Technology 618-338-4963 pager Greenville College, IL ICQ: 13798434 "1 ... 2 ... 5!" --King Arthur
how to put apache under hosts.{allow,deny}'s control?
Subject says it all. How can I put non-inetd services under
hosts.{allow,deny}'s control?
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
On 15 Dec 98, at 21:59, KTB wrote: > Hi, thanks to all the people who have offered advice with configuring > X-windows. I have not been successful and am brain dead at this point. I > also tried hooking up to the internet with the same result. I chose the > debian release because I wanted to learn more about computers (I have only > used a pc off and on for the past year) and I like the philosophy behind > Debian. I am wondering if Debian is just too difficult for me at this > point. I am wondering if maybe I should try Red Hat, I have heard it is > easier to install, and then come back to Debian. Does this sound like a > logical progression to anyone? I don't have experience with either one so > I just don't know the best course to take. Thanks, Kent > I ran into more problems than anyone should with my early experiences of Debian but have learned a huge amount from persevering and using the debian-user list humbly. I found some books from O'Reilly about linux very useful but also sometimes very confusing as different linuces put files in different places. Using locate and find / -name 'wilcard pattern' helps when you've got enough system up and running. I've now installed Debian some ten times to produce three first running systems that seem pretty damn solid and I know far more about computers, operating systems and the internet than I did before and have had incomparable support from the debian-user, linux-scsi, aic7xxx lists. I'd stronly recommend staying with Debian but the one thing I've really had to learn is never to do things to deadlines: accept that some things may take a day or so just come clear in my head let alone get fixed. I'm copying this to the list as a sort of "thank you" to so many people who've helped me directly or have asked questions or answered questions other than mine which have helped me! Seasonal greetings all! Chris
Problems with ppp server
Hello, I am at wit's end with this problem. I am trying to set up a PPP server at work. It is a Debian machine running hamm with ppp version 2.3.5-2. Same setup at my home-machine as well. I am setting this up in the server with mgetty and AutoPPP. Autoppp works and I get a succesful PAP login. After that though, the home-client machine and the work-server don't seem to communicate the local and remote addresses properly - resulting in the home machine giving up saying that it "Could not determine local IP address" and hangs up ppp with "No network protocols running" At home, I used pppconfig to setup the connection script. Note that the home PPP setup and pppconfig scripts work for another ISP, the official campus PPP connection that uses PAP. So I suspect that the problem is not in my home machine. I am able to use minicom and get connected to the debian work server. But since the home client is not able to get its local IP address from the server, the ppp connection fails. I am enclosing relevant segments of syslog and my options files below for both the client and server. For security purposes, usernames, passwords, client and server names have been edited and made generic. I would appreciate any help in this regard. I apologize for the length of this message. Gopal. home client machine syslog- Dec 16 08:47:44 home-client pppd[30193]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0 Dec 16 08:47:45 home-client chat[30194]: abort on (BUSY) Dec 16 08:47:45 home-client chat[30194]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Dec 16 08:47:45 home-client chat[30194]: abort on (VOICE) Dec 16 08:47:45 home-client chat[30194]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Dec 16 08:47:45 home-client chat[30194]: abort on (NO ANSWER) Dec 16 08:47:45 home-client chat[30194]: send (ATZ^M) Dec 16 08:47:45 home-client chat[30194]: expect (OK) Dec 16 08:47:46 home-client chat[30194]: ATZ^M^M Dec 16 08:47:46 home-client chat[30194]: OK Dec 16 08:47:46 home-client chat[30194]: -- got it Dec 16 08:47:46 home-client chat[30194]: send (ATDT5551212^M) Dec 16 08:47:46 home-client chat[30194]: expect (CONNECT) Dec 16 08:47:46 home-client chat[30194]: ^M Dec 16 08:48:07 home-client chat[30194]: ATDT5551212^M^M Dec 16 08:48:07 home-client chat[30194]: CONNECT Dec 16 08:48:07 home-client chat[30194]: -- got it Dec 16 08:48:07 home-client chat[30194]: send (\d) Dec 16 08:48:08 home-client pppd[30193]: Serial connection established. Dec 16 08:48:09 home-client pppd[30193]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 16 08:48:09 home-client pppd[30193]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1 Dec 16 08:48:09 home-client pppd[30193]: Warning - secret file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access Dec 16 08:48:09 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] Dec 16 08:48:12 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1] Dec 16 08:48:12 home-client pppd[30193]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:12 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:12 home-client pppd[30193]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1] Dec 16 08:48:12 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xfebf] Dec 16 08:48:12 home-client pppd[30193]: Warning - secret file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access Dec 16 08:48:12 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="myname" password="mypassword"] Dec 16 08:48:12 home-client pppd[30193]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xcffd] Dec 16 08:48:12 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0xfebf] Dec 16 08:48:12 home-client pppd[30193]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0xcffd] Dec 16 08:48:13 home-client pppd[30193]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 "Login ok"] Dec 16 08:48:13 home-client pppd[30193]: Remote message: Login ok Dec 16 08:48:13 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:13 home-client pppd[30193]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:13 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:16 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:16 home-client pppd[30193]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:16 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:19 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:19 home-client pppd[30193]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:19 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:22 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:22 home-client pppd[30193]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:22 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:25 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:25 home-client pppd[30193]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:25 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:28 home-client pppd[30193]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:28 home-client pppd[30193]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 16 08:48:28 home-client
Re: Problem compiling the kernel
Finally I have worked out what I was doing wrong, (Hopefully this will help the next person who makes this mistake) and it was (as always) really stupid. I was trying to make using non-elf (a.out) binaries, which was causing the problem. (This probably stems from using DJGPP for two years, which has no made the transition (and probably won't)). Thanks to alls who helped me. Peter Allen
Trouble with diaresis and ssharp keys
Hello, everybody, I am presently experiencing the following problem: On my hamm installation I get only beeps when pressing the diaresis keys on my german keyboard (i.e. adiaresis, odiaresis, udiaresis). Pressing the ssharp key gives me an output similar to . The consoles and X terminals behave similarly. Issuing commands like "loadkeys ..." or defining a new xmodmap map didn't improve things. On the other hand I can display documents containing these characters and can also use the keys within editors like emacs or vi. And help would be warmly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -- Stefan Gundel
Re: Install on Adaptec 7890?
On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:39:33 CST, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, David Stern wrote: > > [ snip ] > : Then I modified the Makefile as follows before compiling: > : > : ROOT_DEV = /dev/ramdisk > : > : RAMDISK = -DRAMDISK=1440 > > There's a file on the rescue disk (rdev.sh?) that contains the rdev > commands you need to run on your new kernel image once you've finished > compiling. No need to edit the Makefile. I find rdev annoying because it doesn't provide much in the way of feedback. Pick your poison. -- David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailing list problems, printing
1. I'm not receiving any of the emails from the list, for the last couple of hours. I can post (obviously), but I am not receiving mail from the list, unless it addressed specifically to me. Any thoughts? 2. Having trouble printing using lpr. I assume I'm doing this right. I type "lpr -Pprintername FILENAME" and I get a cover page, a page DESCRIBING the desired file, and then a blank sheet. When I print from Netscape, it either prints hundreds of blank pages, or hundreds of pages with jumbled text. Here's my printcap entry: kingsnake|laserjet 4 in computer room :lp=:\ :rm=kingsnake :rp=raw :sd=/var/spool/lpd/kingsnake :mx#0 :sh I've also tried :rp=text, with same results. Any suggestions? 3. Is there anything special you need to do to get netscape to print specific frames? Thanks == Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Support Specialist http://brian.greenville.edu IBM Mobile Systems Specialist 618-664-2800 ext. 4241 Information Technology 618-338-4963 pager Greenville College, IL ICQ: 13798434 "1 ... 2 ... 5!" --King Arthur
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
kent komplained, > At 11:28 AM 12/16/1998 -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: > >kent kalled, > >> >ANyway, the easiest way I've found to install X is XF86Setup rather > >> >than xf86Setup > >> ^^^ <-- xf86config > >that's the configuration file; XF86Setup makes it > >rick > Unless I'm mistaken, and I could very well be, XF86Setup is the graphical > setup utility, and xf86config is the text-based setup utility, and > XF86Config is the file created by those two utilities. ack, yes. Hmm, didn't XF86Setup used to be XF86Config as well? I seem to recall the two config programs having the same name, save for captialization . . . anyway, for a newuser, use XF86Setup to make what you need :) --
Installing Debian???
I am very, very new to linux and attempting to install Debian on my PC. I am having 3 independent problems that I hope someone can help me with. 1) I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive, but when I try to install the drivers for it during the "install drivers phase" of installation, I keep getting the message installation failed. It seems like the drive is supported (there are options for a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive and an Mitsumi extended drive). I am not sure if it is failing because I am giving it the wrong command line options (specifying IRQ and IO, which admittedly I am unsure about) or what. 2) I have an SMC 1211TX network card, and I am trying to use the rtl8139 driver for it, but I keep receiving an installation failed message as well. I know that someone else has successfully used this driver with this card, but he was not using Debian. To get it to work, he ended up hacking the drivers a little and compiling it into the kernel. My question is: after only the base install, is it possible to compile the kernel? My original plan was to configure my network card, and then download packages through ftp, but I may need to compile code before I can configure my network card. 3) During the base install, I keep getting a message that says "There was a problem extracting the base system from /target/base2_0.tgz" after I have entered all 5 floppy disks with the base system on them (without receiving any disk errors). I used rawrite2 under a DOS shell in win95 to write to the disks (I no longer have Win95 on my computer), so what could the problem be? Thank You, Sunil
Re: help, please, to rescue system
On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Oleg Krivosheev wrote: > >Hi, All > >i've put script (hw init) in /etc/rc.boot which cause >my system to hang completely. I got rescue disk, booted >using "rescue root=/dev/hda3" but /etc/rc.boot is still >executed and computer still hangs. > >So, the question is how to boot from rescue disk and >to able to mount / but not to execute whatever is here >in /etc/rc.boot AFAIK, if you don't give any arguments at the rescue disk's "boot:" prompt, it will happily load the ramdisk and mount the filesystem it loads in ramdisk as root. Then, assuming your Linux root is on /dev/hda3, you just "mount /dev/hda3 /mnt" and then "vi /mnt/etc/rc.boot" to your heart's content. -- Evgeny Roubinchtein, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Quality assurance: A way to ensure you never deliver shoddy goods accidentally.
using umsdos
Hi, Is there anyone using debian with umsdos? Is there a documentation somewhere of how to install a Debian umsdos root filesystem? The umsdos howto is pretty old... I have a PC with NT borrowed for some weeks and I don't want to repartition the disk... Is there a better solution? Is it possible to create my root filesystem in a single DOS file and boot from a diskette? Thanks in advance, Marko
Re: Running seperate eth0 & ppp0 networks
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 10:19:35AM -0800, Ian Eure wrote: > Lee Bradshaw wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 03:29:04AM -0600, John C. Ellingboe wrote: > > > Lee Bradshaw wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 1998 at 03:29:49PM +, Ian Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > > > > what I wish to do is set up my PPP connection so that (when it is up) > > > > > all > > > > > requests for the ISPs network is routed via ppp0, whilst all other > > > > > traffic > > > > > is routed via eth0 > > > > > > > > > > (Assume that my academic lan is the class B 129.1 and my ISP is the > > > > > class > > > > > B 130.2) > > > > > > > > Try something like: > > > > > > > > route add -net 130.2.0.0 dev ppp0 > > > > > > > > > > This will limit your access to just the 130.2.0.0 network over ppp. > > > > That's what he wanted -- isp network over ppp0, everything else over eth0. > > I suspect your ppp0/eth0 setup is more common, but it's now what he needed. > > > > > Do > > > > > > route add -net [your local net address] dev eth0 > > > > > > and use the "default route" option for ppp to get to everything on the > > > internet. I ran this way for some time and it worked fine for access > > > to either route. > Ah but, let's say that you also have file sharing or some other > service on your system, and that it is visible to the outside world > through your ethernet. Will the services still work, or will the system > send out the syn/ack packet (in reply to the syn for requesting a > connection) on the ethernet, or over the ppp? I'm not sure I understand the question. Addresses in the 130.2.0.0 net are routed through the ppp0 interface. Everything else is routed through eth0. In general requests from the eth0 interface will be serviced through eth0 and those from ppp0 will be serviced through ppp0. There are two wierd cases. 132.2.x.x addresses requesting services through eth0 - the reply will go through ppp0. Non 132.2.x.x addresses requesting services through ppp0 - the reply will go through eth0. If you have a specific problem in mind, please provide an example using the original ip addresses - 132.2.0.0 (isp) ppp0, 129.1.0.0 (local) eth0, default eth0. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: suEXEC and "~user/cgi-bin"
> Hello All, > I just can't figure out how to get cgi's to work in the home > directories. The log shows suEXEC is running and cgis work from > /var/www/cgi-bin. In the home directory I have > /home/user/public_html/cgi-bin. > I'm using apache for the server. I've looked through the manuals and tried > the list archives to no avail. There are a number of things to check when using suexec: 1. Make sure the cgi-bin directory is mode 755 (or less), and is owned by the user in question. 2. Same thing for the binary. 3. Make sure the user falls in between the minimum and maximum user id's for suexec. In my experience, #1 is the most common problem. -Jon Burchmore
Re: Printing Quota
On 14 Dec 1998, Jens Ritter wrote: > Llista mail debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi All! > > > > I want to do a printing quota under Linux using de LPRng. The > > quota system is very easy (Quota = Quota - Num_lines_printed), but I don't > > know who to interact with de LPR, I need a filter? How I put my script in > > the filter? (I see that de lpf filter give me de number of lines printed) > > It is easy to print out rubbish on a large amount of pages using a one > line ps file. What do you want to do in such a case? I need to filter the file and only permit to print a plain text. > > The idea is that anybody send de text to the printer, before print > > it, I need to check de quota and if the quota is "OK" then print else "not > > print". > > I would try to use a printer which is capable to report the pages > printed and base the quota on this information. Is an old printer and doesn't have this capabilities.
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
At 11:28 AM 12/16/1998 -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: >kent kalled, > >> >ANyway, the easiest way I've found to install X is XF86Setup rather >> >than xf86Setup >> ^^^ <-- xf86config > >that's the configuration file; XF86Setup makes it > >rick > Unless I'm mistaken, and I could very well be, XF86Setup is the graphical setup utility, and xf86config is the text-based setup utility, and XF86Config is the file created by those two utilities.
Re: printing from netscape
> How do you print to a remote printer from netscape? When I click > on the "print" button, I get a screen with the print command > defaulting to "lpd." Are you sure that the print command says lpd? It should say lpr. lpr is the "client" that sends a page to the printer. lpd is the daemon. i.e. the server. > Is there some other place I need to specify which printer in my > printcap I want to print to? I've got my printcap setup with a > couple of different printers, named by their host name. If I > just click "PRINT" when taking the defaults, it gives me an error: > "lpd: Fatal error - another print spooler is using TCP printer > port, possibly lpd process '139'" Change the print command to lpr -Pprinter_name. I am assuming that you have set up the printcap entries OK. Sidenote: Netscape Navigator / Communicator generates postscript of the page that needs to be printed and passes it on to the print command. This lets you make nice and interesting things like printing back-to-back and 2-uped pages using psnup etc. Thaths -- "See, Marge. Who needs a car wash when you can just drive around in the rain?" -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar C13n http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ Indentured Slave
Re: Graphics Card: S3 3D - compatible?
"Moore, Paul" wrote: > > Hi, > I'm looking at buying a new PC sometime soon - I've just seen a *very* > good looking deal for a 350MHz Pentium II system. As usual, my main > compatibility worries are with video and sound cards. > > The video card is described by the supplier as an AGP S3 3D card, with a > 365 chipset. I've looked through the hardware compatibility HOWTO and > the XFree86 website, and I can't see mention of this card or chipset > specifically. Can anybody confirm that this card will work OK on Debian > (basically Hamm at the moment...) I'll want to use X, and possibly > OpenGL (Mesa). Probably not graphics intensive stuff generally, but I'd > like to look at getting Quake and some other games running (it's not the > end of the world if I fail, but I'd have to run them in DOS/Win95, so > maybe it's bad enough... :-) > The card is suppported in both XFree86 and svgalib. The S3 cards are probably the best-supported video cards in Linux. FWIW, I have a Diamond Stealth 3D AGP, which is a S3 ViRGE/GX2 card. I don't know what the chip number is, but the 3xx series is the ViRGE chip. > Actually, does anybody know what this card is like, in general - is it > 3D accelerated or not, do I need to check things like how much memory it > has, will it run Quake II at mega-accelerated speeds, etc etc? If it's > not up to much, does anybody have any suggestions as to a good card to > get? I've been thinking of one of the ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] cards - are they > a good bet? > The S3 is nice. It's quite fast, but I've had some problems with mine; XFree used to crash pretty often. A quick mail to them revealed that there are bugs with version 3.3.2.3, which are fixed in 3.3.3. To work around them, you must put the line ``chipset s3_virge'' in the Device section of /etc/X11/XF86Config. This stopped _most_ of the problems, but I still get some video lockups when running The GIMP 1.0.2. I don't know why, as it should not be crashing my X server, but it certainly seems to. Some of the more math-intensive xlock screensavers (eg some of the fractals) also cause me problems. The system does not lock up hard, but the video display changes to show vertical bars of dark grey. I have to log into the system from a serial terminal or over the network and reboot it, or it can lock hard. I don't know if all these problems are fixed in the 3.3.3 release of XF86, but I'm hoping so. The S3 is not a supported 3D accelerator. AFAIK, the only hardare-accelerated board supported under Linux is a 3Dfx voodoo/voodoo2 based card like the Diamond Monster 3D. But this is a 3D-only card, and you have to patch your 2D cards video output into the 3D cards input. This can degrade video quality. So far, I have not seen a decent 2D/3D combo card for Linux. The killer card to watch out for would have a S3 for the 2D and a Voodoo2 (or 3?) for the 3D, on one AGP card. > The sound card is described as a SoundBlaster 16 Compatible, made by > SoundPro. Again, will this be supported, and/or is it a good card? The > only real use I have for sound is likely to be for games (both under > Linux and Windows), so it's not a disaster if it's low spec, but I'd > like something reasonable... > To the best of my knowledge, there are _no_ soundblaster 16 compatible cards, other than the ones made by Creative, eg the SB32/AWE64 etc. Probably going to have problems here. > I'm sure that there are some compromises being made in this system, but > frankly, I'm not sure where they are. The deal is too good to just > ignore, though... Any help (or pointers to useful sources of > information) would be much appreciated. > http://www.xfree86.org - XF86 home page, info about supported cards http://www.4front-tech.com - OSS/Linux commercial sound drivers (you can download a demo version) uhm... check the 3dfx-howto, it has good info about 3D cards... -- __ | ian eure, network admin, freelance security consultant, and | | manically depressed paranoid schizophrenic, at your service. | ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://minion.org ; : raw speed = 105.6 wpm with 4.5% errors : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Ensoniq Audio PCI card
Yo- Does anyone have this card working? If so, how? TIA. -Ian
X keeps crashing?
Hi Ive been very happy with debian so far. But the only thing that im not unhappy about is why X keeps crashing on me.ive been promised that linux is a much stable OS. My card is a s3 virge/gx2 running at 24 bit with a virtual resolution of 1028 768 using the SVGA server the server would load and apps would start but somewhere in the middle of nowhere..the whole system hangs ctrl+del+alt doesnt rebooot and system or any other keys can anyone please help me with this problem? thnx -a frustrated X user
help, please, to rescue system
Hi, All i've put script (hw init) in /etc/rc.boot which cause my system to hang completely. I got rescue disk, booted using "rescue root=/dev/hda3" but /etc/rc.boot is still executed and computer still hangs. So, the question is how to boot from rescue disk and to able to mount / but not to execute whatever is here in /etc/rc.boot thank you Oleg
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
john jabbed, > > ...on the other hand, every time I have "GNU/ Linux" shoved in my face, I > > give FreeBSD another thought. Anyone know how to remove it? I can't > > find where it's coming from > /etc/motd, of course. You can put what ever you want there. that was the first place i looked, but it's not where the GNU comes from :) but bob pointed to /etc/issue, where it did. > What's so offensive about "GNU/Linux"? The politics of it :) The general idea behind it is something like "The contributions of GNU are almost/as/more important than linux, which is just the kernel, and GNU should get credit; there would be no system without gnu, etc." frankly, I prefer the BSD utilities, and dislike nearly everything all of the gnu changes: excessively long option names, info/hostility to man, etc. And i generally prefer the way the bsd versions operate on those where i've noticed a difference. But it comes down to "GNU/Linux" being a political statement, and one that I disagree with. rick --
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
kent kalled, > >ANyway, the easiest way I've found to install X is XF86Setup rather > >than xf86Setup > ^^^ <-- xf86config that's the configuration file; XF86Setup makes it rick --
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
bob bled, > > Two years ago, Red Hat was certainly easier to install. Today, debian > > is much easier. Debian fixed its problems, and red had made no > > discernable difference (on the other hand, every time I have "GNU/ > > Linux" shoved in my face, I give FreeBSD another thought. Anyone know > > how to remove it? I can't find where it's coming from). > /etc/issue ahh. works like a charm. thank you (and from my blood pressure, too :) rick --
Re: Partition confusion
At 08:19 AM 12/16/1998 -0500, Jeff Miller wrote: >Hello, > >My drive 0 (hda) has three partitions. The first two are FAT32 Windoze and >I have wiped, removed, and re-created the third with cfdisk. I selected >'Logical' as the type, through cfdisk, and it was assigned a Type of 83 >(Linux). I can mount it and everything seems to be ok. My problem is this: > I want to copy everything from my Linux drive (hdc) /usr directory to this >new partition but when I do 'cp -r * /newpartition' I get error messages >that report the drive type as UMSDOS. The files seem to copy, but it >doesn't appear that I have the correct format on that partition. Is any of >this making sense? My goal is to mount that partition as /usr to make use >of the extra space, but I don't think I'm doing something right. Do I have >to do something beside setup a partition with cfdisk? > >Thanks In Advance > >Jeff Miller Let me preface this by saying I don't know what I'm talking about, but I think I choose "Primary" instead of "Logical" when partitioning a drive. I'm not real sure what each of these means, but I'm under the impression that Logical is somehow dependent on the primary partition.
Re: Running seperate eth0 & ppp0 networks
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 01:32:43PM -0500, Mark Tucker wrote: > I've been working on a similar setup only with with two ethernet cards, > one for the lan and the other for internet access. The problem I've been > having is that when I attempt to specify the device I get an error: > "SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument" when I load the commandline > > route add -net [local net address] dev eth0 > > or > > route add -net [wan address] dev eth1 > > Both interfaces recieve correctly but all outbound is going through the > latter (eth1) interface. I'd love to know how to get this to work > correctly. > > Mark I don't know what the error message means. Two ethernet cards work for me. As far as I can tell you just ifconfig the cards and then add the routes. What does ifconfig say after both cards have been configured? It should provide info on lo, eth0, and eth1. $ ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:63058924 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:63058924 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Collisions:0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 08:00:09:DC:89:1A ..info similar to lo deleted.. eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:5A:1D:83:EF ..info similar to lo deleted.. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running seperate eth0 & ppp0 networks
Lee Bradshaw wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 03:29:04AM -0600, John C. Ellingboe wrote: > > Lee Bradshaw wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 1998 at 03:29:49PM +, Ian Stuart wrote: > > > > > > > > what I wish to do is set up my PPP connection so that (when it is up) > > > > all > > > > requests for the ISPs network is routed via ppp0, whilst all other > > > > traffic > > > > is routed via eth0 > > > > > > > > (Assume that my academic lan is the class B 129.1 and my ISP is the > > > > class > > > > B 130.2) > > > > > > Try something like: > > > > > > route add -net 130.2.0.0 dev ppp0 > > > > > > > This will limit your access to just the 130.2.0.0 network over ppp. > > That's what he wanted -- isp network over ppp0, everything else over eth0. > I suspect your ppp0/eth0 setup is more common, but it's now what he needed. > > > Do > > > > route add -net [your local net address] dev eth0 > > > > and use the "default route" option for ppp to get to everything on the > > internet. I ran this way for some time and it worked fine for access > > to either route. Ah but, let's say that you also have file sharing or some other service on your system, and that it is visible to the outside world through your ethernet. Will the services still work, or will the system send out the syn/ack packet (in reply to the syn for requesting a connection) on the ethernet, or over the ppp? -- __ | ian eure, network admin, freelance security consultant, and | | manically depressed paranoid schizophrenic, at your service. | ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://minion.org ; : raw speed = 105.6 wpm with 4.5% errors : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Re: Configuring modem and connecting to the net
Horacio writes: > bug? which bug? Never did that and I'm not having any probs (AFAIK) with > ppp. ppp2.3.5 was originally shipped with no group search permission on /etc/chatscripts. > BTW, how can I give a normal user permission to use the smail/sendmail > command? What are you trying to do? I can think of no reason that a user would ever need to type 'smail' or 'sendmail'. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: I can't connect to my computer
At 05:13 PM 12/16/1998 +0100, Thomas Adams wrote: >i installed a hamm system (Scientific Workstation) and can't connect to it. >Neither ping, telnet nor smtp or something else works. It's like there is >no network installed. But it is, I, sitting at the computer, can connect to >any other machine, I can browse the web, send email or do other stuff that >sends >something back to the machine. Can anybody tell me what's going on here? >The hostname is kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de. Feel free to scan it or whatever >might lead to an answer. Just for kicks, I tried pinging your computer from a WinNT box. I got: >Pinging kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de [193.25.19.107] with 32 bytes of data: > >Request timed out. >Request timed out. >Request timed out. >Reply from 193.25.19.107: bytes=32 time=551ms TTL=41 Just FYI.
Re: Help!!!!!! Package install problems!!!
At 04:38 PM 12/16/1998 +0100, Lyndon Fletcher wrote: >Hi, > I'm reposting this message with a few clarifications in the hope that >someone will answer my questions. > >I was recently lent an old 486 PC by a friend so that I could do some >Web server development. The machine is not mine and not readily >upgradable so I HAVE to work with what I have. First limitation is that >the machine only has ~360Mb of hard disk space, limitation number 2 is >that the machine has an old CDROM drive with an ISA based proprietary >controller card. This card is NOT supported by Linux, though I have a >DOS boot disc with the nescessary drivers for DOS. I also have >Cheapbytes version of the Debian 2.0 CD. > >OK. Now I cann't load Debian directly off of the CD because the CDROM >drive is not supported. So I got base installed on the machine by >creating a 30MB Dos partition and copying the basic installation files >on to it from DOS. Install went OK up to the point where I need to >install packages, then the lack of the CD (and space on the HD for >temporary storage) became a problem. I need parts of about 8 or 9 >packages some of which will involve loading up to 80MB at a time in >temporary storage if I can't use the CD as source. > > >My problem is how to load the rest of the packages. I have a couple of >ideas and would like to know the answers to a few specific questions. > >1) Idea 1 > >I could copy a few packages at a time onto the 30Mb Dos drive and >install from there. Do you have a zip/jaz drive? That might make more sense. >Question 1 --- To run dselect do I only need the .deb files or do I need >the "packages" files too? I believe you need the packages file in order for dselect to know what packages are available. >Question 2 --- If I do need the "packages" file do I have to edit it to >reflect the actual path to the .deb files? If not how do you deal with >loading packages from paths different from those in the package file? I do not know. >Question 3 --- What constitutes a package? I have several directories >called things like "net" do I copy the whole directory or just the .deb >files I seem to need? I believe each .deb file is a package. However, some packages are dependent on other packages which may be dependent on still other packages. > >Idea 2 > >I also have a laptop PC with a working CDROM (running win95) on which >I've installed an FTPD for win95. > >Question 4 --- when I try to use this machine as an FTP source, Dselect >seems to expect a specific layout dist/stable/main et al If you have dial-up capability from your Linux system, just ftp to a debian site (such as debian.org or one of its mirrors). This is, in my opinion, your best solution. >Unfortunately my CD has the form d:/debian/hamm/hamm... How can I change >this so that Dselect can read fron the remote drive? You use the 0 - Access option in dselect to specify where the packages are located. Whether you elect to install using the CD-ROM method or the ftp method or etc, this is the place to specify how to find the files. >Question 5 --- the "packages" file has the paths to the files listed as >dist/stable/main etc. However, the layout of my CD is >D:/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/... would I need a new packages file >with the paths corrected? I don't know. >Question 6 --- is it possible to use a "packages" file in a different >path from where the .deb files are stored? I don't know. >Hope that you can send me some answers... I've been pulling my hair out >over this all week. Don't do that: 1) It's painful. 2) For most men, as you get older, you'll probably have a harder time replacing what you pull out. 3) Hair might get inside the CPU or keyboard or drive mechanisms and mess things up. :-) >Thanks > >Fletch
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
OK well I guess I am qualified to put in my two hapeth here as I have just moved to Debian after using RedHat since 4.0. RedHat is VERY easy to install in some ways. Its hardware detection is very very good and it takes about 15 minutes to do the whole thing. It does however have some major disadvantages 1. There menu system for X doesnt change depending on what packages you have installed so say if you have no Xemacs the menu option will still be there (this may have changed in 5.2 though as I have'nt tried this yet. 2. Upgrading to latest packages is not automatic you have to download them from the errata ftp site one by one after readig which ones you need. 3. A lot is left unconfigured, RPMs are quite good but they doen't go into config mode after they install the way debs do, so say you install sendmail it won't then ask you some questions to config it for your PC you will just have to hack away by hand. 4. LinuxConf which they now use for almost all system config is a complete pile of *. Sorry to those who like it and the author as its a great idea but it just annoys the hell out of me. Try using it to setup IPX connectivity sometime and see what I mean. If it every gets sorted out though it will be nice. 5. The printing subsystem is a complete mystery to anyone who isn't a wizard at reading very long bash scripts. I thing it uses nenescript but god knows exatly how its bolted together. It works fine if you have a local printer thats in the supported list but for anything else its a nightmare. 6. RedHat change a lot about the way a package installs eg where it puts its files and also config scripts, well so does Debian to some extent but Debain tend to have Readmes to tell you what they have changed RedHat doent you have to guess or examin the patches in the SRPMS. Eventually I started to feel constrained and annoyed by RedHat, its a nice shinny slick system in some ways but Debian seems to have more depth. Also changing over at a later date will give you another learning curve (which I am going through right now :) ) as things are different enough between the two to throw you. Don't get me wrong RedHat is not a bad distribution and they have done a lot to raise the profile of Linux,I liked it a lot better than SuSe or Slackware but I think Debian is better and gives more control. Also whilst RedHat may initially seem to be easier in the medium term and long term it really isn't. Pat - in opinionated mode. On Wed Dec 16, 1998 at 08:46:01AM -0800, Clyde Wilson wrote: > I agree with you Kent. Debian is much too difficult to start out with. > Redhat removes a lot of options to give you a working system without much > configuration on your part. Later, when you are shooting for "guru-ship" > you can go to Debian and really get into it. Both systems are a > tremendous amount of fun!!! > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, KTB wrote: > > > Hi, thanks to all the people who have offered advice with configuring > > X-windows. I have not been successful and am brain dead at this point. > > I also tried hooking up to the internet with the same result. I chose > > the debian release because I wanted to learn more about computers (I > > have only used a pc off and on for the past year) and I like the > > philosophy behind Debian. I am wondering if Debian is just too > > difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try > > Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to > > Debian. Does this sound like a logical progression to anyone? I don't > > have experience with either one so I just don't know the best course to > > take.
Re: RE: switch off Debian
Subject: RE:RE: switch off Debian Date: Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 12:03:56AM -0800 In reply to:Michael Wahl Quoting Michael Wahl([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Good Morning everybody !!! > > > I'd like to thank you for your quick and good help. > It seems I need some basic instructions for working with Debian/Linux. > Is there a good documentation / book for REAL greenhorns? > (With basic syntax, commands and so on) > > Bye > > Michael, Trier, Germany Michael Michael I seem to recommend 2 books more then any others, both from O'Reilly. Both are in English but your posts show that would be no problem for you. Running Linux by Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman (2nd edition is now out) Linux in a nutshell by Jessica Perry Hekman after that A Practical Guide to Linux by Mark G. Sobell Published by Addison-Wesley Hepe that this helps. -- Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition. ___ Wayne T. Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Running seperate eth0 & ppp0 networks
> > > > what I wish to do is set up my PPP connection so that (when it is up) > > > > all > > > > requests for the ISPs network is routed via ppp0, whilst all other > > > > traffic > > > > is routed via eth0 > > > > > > > > (Assume that my academic lan is the class B 129.1 and my ISP is the > > > > class > > > > B 130.2) > > > > > > Try something like: > > > > > > route add -net 130.2.0.0 dev ppp0 > > > > > > > This will limit your access to just the 130.2.0.0 network over ppp. > > That's what he wanted -- isp network over ppp0, everything else over eth0. > I suspect your ppp0/eth0 setup is more common, but it's now what he needed. > > > Do > > > > route add -net [your local net address] dev eth0 > > > > and use the "default route" option for ppp to get to everything on the > > internet. I ran this way for some time and it worked fine for access > > to either route. I've been working on a similar setup only with with two ethernet cards, one for the lan and the other for internet access. The problem I've been having is that when I attempt to specify the device I get an error: "SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument" when I load the commandline route add -net [local net address] dev eth0 or route add -net [wan address] dev eth1 Both interfaces recieve correctly but all outbound is going through the latter (eth1) interface. I'd love to know how to get this to work correctly. Mark
bitchy 486
I have put together a 486DX2-66 machine from old parts. It's a vers-local bus machine with 8M of dram, 200mb disk drive (I have a 2g I can swap in), an 8x ide cdrom drive, and a cirrus based vesa local bus video card (boca) with 1m on it (add two chips for 2m). I have tried to boot slackware and debian on it (so far havn't tried red hat). Initially the cdrom was on a second ide card as it's own master, now its a slave to the hd on the pri ide. Reason was that slackware reported the cd as an IDE TAPE when on the second card! It reports correctly when it's on the pri card Slackware installed ok, except for it would not activate a swap partition. I tried to boot the debian rescue disk and got about halfway there when it failed with 'boot failed' Any ideas what 'boot failed' means? (I can boot slackware 3.4 'bare' and 'color' disks ok, also windoz 95 boot disk boots ok). _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
Clyde Wilson writes: Clyde> I agree with you Kent. Debian is much too difficult to start out with. Clyde> Redhat removes a lot of options to give you a working system without Clyde> much configuration on your part. Later, when you are shooting for Clyde> "guru-ship" you can go to Debian and really get into it. Both systems Clyde> are a tremendous amount of fun!!! This is the eternal problem of ergonomy vs. configurability, and I'm not sure we'll ever find a really good compromise: I switched just yesterday from redhat 5.1 to debian 2.0. I'm a computer scientist with a rather long experience in Unixes so that didn't frightened me too much, but what I can say from now is that: 1/ RedHat is much easier to install, but a PITA when you want to do (or learn) special precise things. Providing a good looking tk interface for everything is not enough to make things easier and moreover it hides the knowledge you could acquire about the stuff behind (of course, you might perfectly not want to learn anything). 2/ Debian on the contrary doesn't try much to do anything for you (or the other way around, you have a maximum control), but remains much more difficult to install. Personally, that's what I want: I want to learn the inners of everything I use (I don't like to eat while not seing what's in my plate ;-)). IMHO the day where we'll have a really good compromise between ergonomy and configurability is when a configuration interface is as clever for setting the parameters as for providing all the information needed to understand what's going on. But even this, is not necessarily what everybody wants. -- / / _ _ Didier Vernahttp://www.inf.enst.fr/~verna/ - / / - / / /_/ / E.N.S.T. INF C201.1 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /_/ / /_/ / /__ /46 rue BarraultTel. (33) 01 45 81 73 46 75634 Paris cedex 13 Fax. (33) 01 45 81 31 19
Re: ??? how to TOTALLY remove KDE ???
At 08:39 AM 12/16/1998 +, Rich Hartman wrote: >Hey there everybody, > >After using KDE for a while, I've decided to ditch it and try >Gnome... my question is - How do I remove it so that EVERYTHING is >gone? This is my second attempt at running debian (had it running >earlier this year with KDE... when I tried to remove KDE via dselect, >it didn't remove a bunch of directories because they "weren't empty" >or something) basically, I want no trace that it was ever there, >and to start fresh with a pristine system.. > >Thanks in advance, > >Rich I think that if you use the - key to mark a package for deletion, it removes the package but not the configuration files, etc. If you use the _ key instead, it gets rid of everything. However, if you did use the _ key instead of the - key, then just ignore my comment because obviously I don't know what I'm talking about :-)
Re: printing from netscape
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 10:10:27AM -0600, Brian Morgan wrote: > How do you print to a remote printer from netscape? When I click on the > "print" button, I get a screen with the print command defaulting to "lpd." > Is there some other place I need to specify which printer in my printcap I > want to print to? I've got my printcap setup with a couple of different > printers, named by their host name. If I just click "PRINT" when taking the > defaults, it gives me an error: "lpd: Fatal error - another print spooler > is using TCP printer port, possibly lpd process '139'" > I think you want the print command to be "lpr". Then if you want to print to a printer other than the default use "lpr -P PRINTERNAME". I could be wrong, though. What do you use to print outside of netscape? If you use "lpr", then I am pretty sure my suggestion should work -- Jim Crumley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: SB16 compatible cards
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 02:29:49PM -, Moore, Paul wrote: > The sound card is described as a SoundBlaster 16 Compatible, made by > SoundPro. Again, will this be supported, and/or is it a good card? The > only real use I have for sound is likely to be for games (both under > Linux and Windows), so it's not a disaster if it's low spec, but I'd > like something reasonable... Unless a sound card is an older SB16, it probably isn't really compatible with SB16. This includes the latest SB16PnP cards from Creative, which is compatible only with a driver that only works in DOS/Windows. If you want a sound card that works with 16-bit sound, make sure you know what chip it uses (specific chip, e.g. the Vibra16 from Creative used to work but the newer ones don't) and check that it's supported. -- Patrik Nordebo [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://a39.ryd.student.liu.se/~isildur
Re: I can't connect to my computer
Thomas Adams wrote: > > i installed a hamm system (Scientific Workstation) and can't connect to it. > Neither ping, telnet nor smtp or something else works. It's like there is > no network installed. But it is, I, sitting at the computer, can connect to > any other machine, I can browse the web, send email or do other stuff that > sends > something back to the machine. Can anybody tell me what's going on here? > The hostname is kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de. Feel free to scan it or > whatever > might lead to an answer. I tried to connect (ping) your station and the router 193.25.19.107 is unable to find your machine (I think this is the router you would use to connect to the internet. This router is misconfigured, or configured to not allow connections inside. Talk to whoever configures the router. The message that I got (using window$) was: Request timed out. Reply from 193.25.19.107: Destination host unreachable. Reply from 193.25.19.107: Destination host unreachable. Reply from 193.25.19.107: Destination host unreachable.
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
At 10:15 AM 12/16/1998 -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: >discernable difference (on the other hand, every time I have "GNU/ >Linux" shoved in my face, I give FreeBSD another thought. Anyone know >how to remove it? I can't find where it's coming from). I vaguely remember a thread about this about three months ago. You might check the mail list archives. >ANyway, the easiest way I've found to install X is XF86Setup rather >than xf86Setup ^^^ <-- xf86config
Dream linux computer?
What is a linux dream computer? I've finally put aside a couple of bucks, and I'm wondering: What's the ultimate linux computer today? Which video card is the best (which one does the most, 2d/3d/mpeg/tv; ideal is a 3dfx) ? What sound (3d?; ideal is an aureal) card? What laptop is the best deal? The Moose UIN: 947212 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
I agree with you Kent. Debian is much too difficult to start out with. Redhat removes a lot of options to give you a working system without much configuration on your part. Later, when you are shooting for "guru-ship" you can go to Debian and really get into it. Both systems are a tremendous amount of fun!!! On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, KTB wrote: > Hi, thanks to all the people who have offered advice with configuring > X-windows. I have not been successful and am brain dead at this point. > I also tried hooking up to the internet with the same result. I chose > the debian release because I wanted to learn more about computers (I > have only used a pc off and on for the past year) and I like the > philosophy behind Debian. I am wondering if Debian is just too > difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try > Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to > Debian. Does this sound like a logical progression to anyone? I don't > have experience with either one so I just don't know the best course to > take. > Thanks, > Kent > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Mutt colours
Reply-To: Hi This isn't really important but here goes anyway. I have over the last week or so being introducing myself to Debian and playing with Hamm and Slink. At one point my Mutt mailer was running with a nice colour setup (not one I made rather it was installed by one of the Mutt debs I used) that used quite a lot of green rather than the usual red and blue setup. I have reinstalled my machine with Hamm and a few bits of Slink and now it has gone back to the old red and blue config. Does anyone know where the other colour scheme came from as it was much easier on the eyes. For the life of me I can't figure out which mutt dep it was in. Pat
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
At 09:59 PM 12/15/1998 -0600, KTB wrote: >Hi, thanks to all the people who have offered advice with configuring >X-windows. I have not been successful and am brain dead at this point. >I also tried hooking up to the internet with the same result. I chose >the debian release because I wanted to learn more about computers (I >have only used a pc off and on for the past year) and I like the >philosophy behind Debian. I am wondering if Debian is just too >difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try >Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to >Debian. Does this sound like a logical progression to anyone? I don't >have experience with either one so I just don't know the best course to >take. >Thanks, >Kent What part of the world are you in? Perhaps you're near someone or near a LUG (Linux User's Group) that could give you some one-on-one help. I think Redhat might be easier to get your feet wet with, but Debian will probably be easier to work with in the long run. I personally think you'd benefit from being exposed to several distributions, but be aware of the psychological trap that if you start with Redhat and have an easy time of it but then switch before you run into the harder issues of Redhat, your brain will always subconsciously consider Redhat easier, even if that's not true. I don't remember all the problems you've been having, but I vaguely seem to think they're mostly X-Windows related. If that's the case, I'd suggest sticking with Debian and fighting X until you've beaten it into submission; for one thing, you'll learn a lot more than if you just let Redhat's installation program do it all for you. I understand your being "brain dead". Might I suggest that you try to run a game or two; you'll most likely find them in /usr/games. Don't try to run the ones starting with "X"; they need X-Windows. Most of the default text-based games are rather mild, but it'll give you a little boost to be able to do "something" with your system. (If you "cd /usr/games", instead of starting the game "foogame" by simply typing it's name, you may need to type "./foogame". Unlike DOS/Windows, the system doesn't always "see" executables in the current directory, for security reasons.) If you've got a second machine, install Redhat on it, but leave Debian on this one. Have you posted any questions about your dial-up? Have you verified your connection to your ISP from another computer/Operating System? Have you run (as root) pppconfig, and then typed pon to start your connection? I don't mean to push you into killing your brain any farther, but my gut instinct is that you're closer to some major successes than you think. The Other Kent
Re: Graphics Card: S3 3D - compatible?
Hi, I'm looking at buying a new PC sometime soon - I've just seen a *very* good looking deal for a 350MHz Pentium II system. As usual, my main compatibility worries are with video and sound cards. The video card is described by the supplier as an AGP S3 3D card, with a 365 chipset. I've looked through the hardware compatibility HOWTO and the XFree86 website, and I can't see mention of this card or chipset specifically. well, i believe it is not supported even in Xfree 3.3.3 released late November. I read somewhere that developers got info too late to be included in xf3.3.3. Support is promised to arrive in future Xfree release (4.0 ?) Can anybody confirm that this card will work OK on Debian (basically Hamm at the moment...) I'll want to use X, and possibly OpenGL (Mesa). Probably not graphics intensive stuff generally, but I'd like to look at getting Quake and some other games running (it's not the end of the world if I fail, but I'd have to run them in DOS/Win95, so maybe it's bad enough... :-) Actually, does anybody know what this card is like, in general - is it 3D accelerated or not, do I need to check things like how much memory it has, will it run Quake II at mega-accelerated speeds, etc etc? If it's not up to much, does anybody have any suggestions as to a good card to get? I've been thinking of one of the ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] cards - are they a good bet? the only card with 3D acceleration supported are Voodoo and Voodoo2, plus there is also alpha quality driver for Permedia2 cards. Voodoo banshee is not supported nut some work is under way The sound card is described as a SoundBlaster 16 Compatible, made by SoundPro. Again, will this be supported, and/or is it a good card? The only real use I have for sound is likely to be for games (both under Linux and Windows), so it's not a disaster if it's low spec, but I'd like something reasonable... don't know about sound OK
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: > > I am wondering if Debian is just too > > difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try > > Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to > > Debian. > > Two years ago, Red Hat was certainly easier to install. Today, debian > is much easier. Debian fixed its problems, and red had made no > discernable difference (on the other hand, every time I have "GNU/ > Linux" shoved in my face, I give FreeBSD another thought. Anyone know > how to remove it? I can't find where it's coming from). /etc/issue Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Smail not delivering mail to local domain
Pat, I had the same problem and made the same change. Sorry I didn't recognize that when you posted your query; I made the change to the hostnames line in /etc/smail/config more on a hunch than based on actually understanding what I was doing ;-), and I promptly forgot about it. I had already set up the corporate M$-Exchange server as the smarthost (that term is a little ironic in this case?) but could not get the mail routed through it for in-company mail without removing the ":mycompany.com" domain specification, as you did. I had no local support on this because I'm running the "wrong" softare (i.e. Linux) as my desktop OS, so I just hacked away until it worked. I have wondered if there was a better way to solve this and would agree that a FAQ that spelled out how to deal with this situation would be most helpful. This is not an esoteric configuration problem. Bottom line: I have had no problems with mail since setting it up. Regards - MikeT (Not to be confused with miket (my son) who posts actual helpful info.) On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 12:44:15PM +, Patrick Colbeck wrote: > > Recently I posted about smail being able to deliver mail via smtp to remote > domains but not to users on my own domain unless they existed on the box smail > was running on. Basically I wanted mail for these users to be delivered to the > company mail server. > > Several people have offered solutions using smartuser or smartrelay but for > once I have come up with a simple solution myself so incase anyone else has > the same problem here it is. > > In /etc/smail/config as setup by debian there is a line like this > > hostnames=hostname.domain:domain > > eg > > hostname=workstation1.somecompany.com:somecompany.com > > change it to > > hostname=hostname.domain.com > > eg > > hostname=workstation1.somecompany.com > > Now it should work properly and hand off all mail for users not on > workstation1 to whatever dns turns up as an mx record dor the domain. > > If anyone has any comments about any negative effects of this solution please > mail me. > -- Michael E. Touloumtzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RE: Help!!!!!! Package install problems!!!
I have the same type of CDROM. I used the goldstar cdrom driver (gscd). I works fine. Try that driver and you should have full access to the CD. It is possible to use dselect without the the packages file - but I don't recommend this. I have done it that way and it can lead to problems. When I did use dselect, I only copied one package file - do to HD space limits. It will function but you may not find some of your .debs. If you copy the package file from contrib non of the non-free packages will be reflected. Then you would need to dpkg those debs. If you use the DOS or HARDRIVE installs you will need the full path names that you have saved your debs to. Packages does need to be in one of the directories listed in your dselect setup. Hope this helps. If you want more details let me know. Rod. -Original Message- From: Lyndon Fletcher [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 10:38 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:Help!! Package install problems!!! Hi, I'm reposting this message with a few clarifications in the hope that someone will answer my questions. I was recently lent an old 486 PC by a friend so that I could do some Web server development. The machine is not mine and not readily upgradable so I HAVE to work with what I have. First limitation is that the machine only has ~360Mb of hard disk space, limitation number 2 is that the machine has an old CDROM drive with an ISA based proprietary controller card. This card is NOT supported by Linux, though I have a DOS boot disc with the nescessary drivers for DOS. I also have Cheapbytes version of the Debian 2.0 CD. OK. Now I cann't load Debian directly off of the CD because the CDROM drive is not supported. So I got base installed on the machine by creating a 30MB Dos partition and copying the basic installation files on to it from DOS. Install went OK up to the point where I need to install packages, then the lack of the CD (and space on the HD for temporary storage) became a problem. I need parts of about 8 or 9 packages some of which will involve loading up to 80MB at a time in temporary storage if I can't use the CD as source. My problem is how to load the rest of the packages. I have a couple of ideas and would like to know the answers to a few specific questions. 1) Idea 1 I could copy a few packages at a time onto the 30Mb Dos drive and install from there. Question 1 --- To run dselect do I only need the .deb files or do I need the "packages" files too? Question 2 --- If I do need the "packages" file do I have to edit it to reflect the actual path to the .deb files? If not how do you deal with loading packages from paths different from those in the package file? Question 3 --- What constitutes a package? I have several directories called things like "net" do I copy the whole directory or just the .deb files I seem to need? Idea 2 I also have a laptop PC with a working CDROM (running win95) on which I've installed an FTPD for win95. Question 4 --- when I try to use this machine as an FTP source, Dselect seems to expect a specific layout dist/stable/main et al Unfortunately my CD has the form d:/debian/hamm/hamm... How can I change this so that Dselect can read fron the remote drive? Question 5 --- the "packages" file has the paths to the files listed as dist/stable/main etc. However, the layout of my CD is D:/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/... would I need a new packages file with the paths corrected? Question 6 --- is it possible to use a "packages" file in a different path from where the .deb files are stored? Hope that you can send me some answers... I've been pulling my hair out over this all week. Thanks Fletch -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
RE:RE: switch off Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Michael Wahl wrote: > I'd like to thank you for your quick and good help. > It seems I need some basic instructions for working with Debian/Linux. > Is there a good documentation / book for REAL greenhorns? > (With basic syntax, commands and so on) > You could try Linux for Dummies. It should be available at a local bookstore or you could order it from something like amazon.com. I'm not sure of any online resources. I've been using this stuff for so long that I don't remember learning any of it! noah PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNnfc9YdCcpBjGWoFAQFX0QP/bo+QqkX+b5nuHbSajrEAJAiDgoy9bo8r R4jghMUorHixmwMjYve66OIY/UTRkabQCfnG1vwpRXYDwrRiKsTdECcgWVCJA3lz D4AxutA7XdOVIFpyj1kZkpUNtkVLiaicieV3rQPbYwxtoo4FXVq2Ob5crW0Vr1f+ ywRYKyD/gpI= =flAQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: DNS problem
On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Damon Buckwalter wrote: > Shao Zhang wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > when I download netscape, I got the following error from Netscape > > 4.5: > > > > Bad Domain > > > > DNS NAME: > > Host Name: november.uws.EDU.AU > > IP Address: 137.154.230.60 > > Your DNS name probably won't be accepted. Click here for more info. > > > > I clicked more info and get the following: > > > > > > General > > > > We could not verify your domain as not known to be foreign, or your domain > > could not be resolved by reverse DNS. > > You're trying to download the _US_ version of Netscape from Australia, > and Big Brother, I mean, Uncle Sam, says that's a no-no. It'a not quite that bad. You can import hard-encrypted software, but not export it. Maybe Austalia has some rules here of its own, however. > > > You cannot download this software unless your network connection does > > reverse DNS, and your domain is not known > > to be foreign. You may need to contact your system administrator. > > > > You can get the Export Version if one exists. > > Why not just install the netscape packages? They're in potato, and > slink too I belive. The "Export Version" of Netscape contains only > 40-bit encryption, instead of 128-bit, that's the only difference. You can convert it to 128-bit using Fortify. I think there is a package for this on non-us, or you can get it from www.fortify.net. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
I can't connect to my computer
i installed a hamm system (Scientific Workstation) and can't connect to it. Neither ping, telnet nor smtp or something else works. It's like there is no network installed. But it is, I, sitting at the computer, can connect to any other machine, I can browse the web, send email or do other stuff that sends something back to the machine. Can anybody tell me what's going on here? The hostname is kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de. Feel free to scan it or whatever might lead to an answer. At first I thought about hosts.deny and hosts.allow, but they look innocent: $ cat /etc/hosts.allow # /etc/hosts.allow: list of hosts that are allowed to access the system. # See the manual pages hosts_access(5), hosts_options(5) # and /usr/doc/netbase/portmapper.txt.gz # # Example:ALL: LOCAL @some_netgroup # ALL: .foobar.edu EXCEPT terminalserver.foobar.edu # # If you're going to protect the portmapper use the name "portmap" for the # daemon name. Remember that you can only use the keyword "ALL" and IP # addresses (NOT host or domain names) for the portmapper. See portmap(8) # and /usr/doc/netbase/portmapper.txt.gz for further information. # ALL: ALL $ cat /etc/hosts.deny # /etc/hosts.deny: list of hosts that are _not_ allowed to access the system. # See the manual pages hosts_access(5), hosts_options(5) # and /usr/doc/netbase/portmapper.txt.gz # # Example:ALL: some.host.name, .some.domain # ALL EXCEPT in.fingerd: other.host.name, .other.domain # # If you're going to protect the portmapper use the name "portmap" for the # daemon name. Remember that you can only use the keyword "ALL" and IP # addresses (NOT host or domain names) for the portmapper. See portmap(8) # and /usr/doc/netbase/portmapper.txt.gz for further information. # # The PARANOID wildcard matches any host whose name does not match its # address. ALL: PARANOID Then I thought maybe there's a firewall installed. But the only references to ipfwadm I could find in the startup files are for preventing IP spoofed connections. Here's my inetd.conf, maybe it defaults to something weird which I don't recognize: $ cat /etc/inetd.conf # /etc/inetd.conf: see inetd(8) for further informations. # # Internet server configuration database # # # Lines starting with "#:LABEL:" or "##" should not # be changed unless you know what you are doing! # # If you want to disable an entry so it isn't touched during # package updates just comment it out with a single '#' character. # # Packages should modify this file by using update-inetd(8) # # # #:INTERNAL: Internal services #echo stream tcp nowait rootinternal #echo dgram udp waitrootinternal #chargenstream tcp nowait rootinternal #chargendgram udp waitrootinternal discard stream tcp nowait rootinternal discard dgram udp waitrootinternal daytime stream tcp nowait rootinternal daytime dgram udp waitrootinternal timestream tcp nowait rootinternal timedgram udp waitrootinternal #:STANDARD: These are standard services. ftp stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.ftpd telnet stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.telnetd #:BSD: Shell, login, exec and talk are BSD protocols. shell stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.rshd login stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.rlogind execstream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.rexecd ntalk dgram udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd talkdgram udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.talkd #:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services. #:INFO: Info services finger stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.fingerd ident stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/identdidentd -i #:BOOT: Tftp service is provided primarily for booting. Most sites # run this only on machines acting as "boot servers." #tftp dgram udp waitnobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /boot #bootps dgram udp waitroot/usr/sbin/bootpdbootpd -i -t 120 #:RPC: RPC based services #mountd/1 dgram rpc/udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd #rstatd/1-3 dgram rpc/udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/rpc.rstatd #rusersd/2-3dgram rpc/udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/rpc.rusersd #walld/1dgram rpc/udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/rpc.rwalld #:HAM-RADIO: amateur-radio services #:OTHER: Other services saftstream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/sendfiled smtp stream tcp nowait root/
printing from netscape
How do you print to a remote printer from netscape? When I click on the "print" button, I get a screen with the print command defaulting to "lpd." Is there some other place I need to specify which printer in my printcap I want to print to? I've got my printcap setup with a couple of different printers, named by their host name. If I just click "PRINT" when taking the defaults, it gives me an error: "lpd: Fatal error - another print spooler is using TCP printer port, possibly lpd process '139'" Any suggestions? == Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Support Specialist http://brian.greenville.edu IBM Mobile Systems Specialist 618-664-2800 ext. 4241 Information Technology 618-338-4963 pager Greenville College, IL ICQ: 13798434 "1 ... 2 ... 5!" --King Arthur
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
Richard E. Hawkins Esq. writes: > ...on the other hand, every time I have "GNU/ Linux" shoved in my face, I > give FreeBSD another thought. Anyone know how to remove it? I can't > find where it's coming from /etc/motd, of course. You can put what ever you want there. What's so offensive about "GNU/Linux"? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Debian Japan and updates
From: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Debian Japan and updates Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:58:40 -0200 > Hi Debian users, > recently I download XFree86 3.3.3 from Debian Japan project. I'm asking > if is safe to install these packages? We hope it's safe to install, but XFree86 3.3.3 is still in unstable branch in debian-jp, so it's not yet much tested. > What about put a line in > /etc/apt/sources.list > to point to Debian Japan? You can use deb ftp://ftp.debian.or.jp/debian-jp stable-jp main contrib non-free or deb http://www.debian.or.jp/debian-jp stable-jp main contrib non-free Note that in stable-jp, there is the package with the same name of the Debian hamm, IIRC libc6 with wcsmbs, man-db and so on, so be careful to add stable-jp to your apt list. Of course, you may replace stable-jp with frozen-jp (== slink-jp for slink) or unstable-jp (== potato-jp for potato), and AFAIK frozen-jp and/or unstable-jp does not contain the package with the same name of the Debian slink and/or potato, so there is any problem like stable-jp, I think. We've plan to release slink-jp, that is, change slink-jp from frozen-jp to stable-jp, within atmost 1 month after slink is released. Regards, Fumitoshi UKAI / Debian JP Project
