Re: infomagic

1999-07-23 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 11:12:05AM -0400, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> The reason they no longer put Debian on their linux toolkit cd's (they
> say) is that at 4 cd's it is now too large.  So they now have a
> SEPARATE debian 4 cd set.  The latest (2.1r0x) will be out in August at
> $15 (plus postage).  You can subscribe for updates at $10 a pop. 
> Hopefully, the August release will be followed very shortly by the 2.2
> release? (In a few months anyway).  This is an OFFICIAL Debian release.
>  Their web page still shows the 'ol blue eyes' logo on the CD.  Someone
> should tell them about the new logo?

You know, I don't mean to rain on your parade too much, but I've read 2
messages from you on different subjects talking about Potato being
released "soon"...

Let me start by saying whoever told you this was POSSIBLE is on crack.
Why can we not release "soon"?

  * Our boot disks don't work anymore
  * We need to fix the cdrom layout
  * Potato's perl is inconsistant, at best
  * We have almost THREE HUNDRED release critical bugs that must be fixed
prior to release
  * The archive maintainers haven't had time to process the manual stuff
in incoming for what feels like ages but is probably more like a
couple of weeks
  * dinstall seems to be broken/breaking
  * Our mirrors are out of sync
  * We need a reasonable testing period after we've fixed the above


To everyone expecting a September release, WAKE UP!  It's NOT going to
happen.  It's NOT possible, not that soon.  I think if we shoot for having
it out by the holidays it could be done, however we've seen what happens
if it's not done by December---everyone goes on vacation and nothing gets
done until February.  =p

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Re: LS-120 "Super Rescue" floppy

1999-07-23 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 03:06:41PM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote:
> I'm trying to make a "super rescue" floppy on an LS-120 floppy.
Good idea! Norton Utilities for Windows does this with a Zip drive.

> If I leave the first line in /etc/lilo.conf
> 
> /dev/hdd1
Definately not what you want. In my experience, liloconfig is a waste
of time. 

> /dev/hdd
Correct in your scenario. Could you post the whole lilo.conf file?
 
> L 01 01 01 ...
According to /usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz:
 0x01   "Illegal command". This shouldn't happen, but if it does, it may 
 indicate an attempt to access a disk which is not supported by the 
 BIOS. See also "Warning: BIOS drive 0x may not be accessible" 
 in section "Warnings".

Perhaps you could move the LS-120 to /dev/hdb? IIRC, my CD-RW did not
like being a slave to a CD-ROM drive, so the same thing might apply 
here.
 
> /dev/hdd1 is the only partition on the LS-120 floppy, and is marked bootable.
Shouldn't matter if it is marked bootable. As long as LILO takes over.
Another thing I've done: install LILO on /dev/hda and /dev/hda1. So:
1. BIOS gives control to LILO on /dev/hda
2. I tell LILO to boot "linux" (on /dev/hda1)
3. LILO transfers control to /dev/hda1
4. I tell LILO to boot "linux" 
5. Goto 3

Perhaps you could look into restoring the backup /boot/boot.nnn file
for your LS-120, or recreate the FS?
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Re: kernel panic while mounting root fs

1999-07-23 Thread Andrei Ivanov
I've installed different board, it's not booting either.
Both boards I've tried had i430VX chipset on them, I'm no longer sure
about the original board (can't get it to boot, sure that it will not work
after picking it up from trash)
Are there any bugs in 2.2.10 connected to VX chipset?

Andrew


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SAMBA: %G substitution wrong

1999-07-23 Thread Ries van Twisk
Hai,

I posted a simular question in the samba lists, but still no answer,
maby you know this.

When I use 'include = \etc\smb.conf.%G" in the smb.conf
configuration file.

the %G is somtimes substituted as nogroup.
(nogroup is the gid of the user nobody.)

When this happens, a user from a group cannot
see there browse list because there configuration is in
a other configuration file. (smb.conf.quality for example)

I use all the programs from the Debian 2.1 CD Rom Set 
(Linux Kernel 2.0.36, samba 1.9.18p10)

Hope you can help because I don't really
have a clou on how to create different configurations
for my different workgroups in the office.

Ries van Twisk


LS-120 "Super Rescue" floppy

1999-07-23 Thread Pann McCuaig
I'm trying to make a "super rescue" floppy on an LS-120 floppy.

At work we have several machines with no "standard" floppy drive
configured thusly:


+--- master --- /dev/hda (hard drive)
+--- IDE0 --|
|   +--- slave  (no connection)
|
|   +--- master --- /dev/hdc (CDROM)
+--- IDE1 --|
+--- slave  /dev/hdd (LS-120)


What I'm trying to do is create a bootable slink system on the LS-120
floppy. I can boot the official CD and with a minimum amount of fiddling
get the base system installed on /dev/hdd (the LS-120 floppy).

The problem is configuring lilo. I can tell the BIOS to boot first from
A: or from LS/ZIP, and in either case (if memory serves, sorry) the
symptoms are identical.

If I leave the first line in /etc/lilo.conf

/dev/hdd1

as set by liloconfig, the boot process hangs silently when you'd expect
lilo to put in an appearance.

If I change that line to

/dev/hdd

and rerun lilo, the boot process gets as far as lilo, but fails like
this:

L 01 01 01 ...

/dev/hdd1 is the only partition on the LS-120 floppy, and is marked bootable.
And yes, it's an ext2 partition.

Ideas? Suggestions? Thanks.

Cheers,
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Re: SVGALib

1999-07-23 Thread Chris Dion
Daniel Ruoso wrote:
> 
> Does anybody know where can I find a good FAQ about SVGALIB, or (that
> would be better) can explain me, how to run svgalib as a normal user?

My understanding is that svgalib must run with root privileges.  More
info: http://siva.usc.edu/~brion/linux/svgalib-dev-faq-2.html.

I recommend GGI (General Graphics Interface -
http://www.ggi-project.org) as an excellent alternative to svgalib that
doesn't suffer from the same limitation.

Chris Dion


Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines (ITP)

1999-07-23 Thread John P. Hogan
the book has been published through New Riders and I have seen it in 1 local
bookstore.  The book is GPLed, has a single CD distro and sells for $24.95
with a portion of that going to FSF.




Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists

1999-07-23 Thread Steve Lamb
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>> Don't do that!  The standard line length is 80 columns, and all sane

>In fact, your line length should be even smaller than that to allow
>for quoting. RFC 1036 (I think) says 72 columns. 

However, since RFC1036 a lot of editors have gotten quite intelligent in
reflowing quotes.  I personally set my width to 78 and reflow pretty much
everything before sending it out.

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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Philip Lehman
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Brad wrote:

>On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Matt Kopishke wrote:
>> I had that problem, the fix (for me at least) was deleteing my ~/.netscape
>> Dunno why, but somthing get corupted.
>
>Hmmm... this is the first suggestion that has worked for me! i still get
>bus errors trying to login to dhs.org, but i haven't gotten it to crash on
>closing a window yet.

I just tried that from a new user account and had no problems crashing
it ;) I did change some basic settings after launching: refuse all
cookies, use a proxy, disable javascript and java <- and this was
supposed to improve stability. Shouldn't make a difference, though.

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Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines (ITP)

1999-07-23 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "Colin" == Colin Marquardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Colin> Havoc Pennington´s Debian Tutorial (would be good to have it as
Colin> a package, is there already one?),

The tutorial has been extended by Ossama Othen and John Goertzen
(IIRC), and will be published as a book. As the tutorial is GPLed, the
sources of the book has to be as well. I think the book is finished,
and they wanted to prepare a package, but I don't know how far the
are.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: infomagic

1999-07-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
Buddha Buck writes:
>
>If InfoMagic CD's were not reliable, it's because they were cutting 
>their CDs (to shoehorn Debian into their toolkit CDs), and not taking 
>the same quality control as we do when developing our official CD 
>images.
>
>If InfoMagic is now shipping Official Debian CDs, then they are using 
>our CD images, so they should be just as reliable as anyone else.  And 
>according to Kenneth, that is exactly what htey are doing.

That is exactly what they are doing, yes. I helped them with the image
stage...

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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Brad
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Matt Kopishke wrote:

> I had that problem, the fix (for me at least) was deleteing my ~/.netscape
> Dunno why, but somthing get corupted.

Hmmm... this is the first suggestion that has worked for me! i still get
bus errors trying to login to dhs.org, but i haven't gotten it to crash on
closing a window yet.

It even seems safe to keep your old bookmark and cookie files...


shell script to run dns (TZO) signon client when ppp redials

1999-07-23 Thread Nate
I've tried to get this dynip client TZO.Signon to startup automatically
everyime my isp cuts me off and wvdial redials.  I put the shell script
in the /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/, but it will not update dns to my dynip.

What am I doing wrong here?  Thank you.


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Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists

1999-07-23 Thread Colin Marquardt
* Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Don't do that!  The standard line length is 80 columns, and all sane

In fact, your line length should be even smaller than that to allow
for quoting. RFC 1036 (I think) says 72 columns. 

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Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines (ITP)

1999-07-23 Thread Colin Marquardt
* Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> > b) having a table of contents and index ( <- index might be hard )
>> ^^
>> 
>> Not too much if the base is SGML or (La)TeX.

> That makes me happy.  It will probably be in debiandoc-sgml by Martin
> Bialasinski's suggestion.  I'll have to look into this, though.

Well, I also don´t know about the exact steps to create an index from
SGML, but if the logical mark-up doesn´t provide means for it, it´s
cra**. I´m pretty sure it´s no problem though.

>> This "very short documenation" should be in plain ASCII, IMO. It
>> should include links, of course, whereever they may lead.

> What do you mean by ASCII links?  You just mean references?  I don't

Yes, references, sorry.

> mind providing and ASCII version, but I think that for ease of
> navigation, well designed HTML (as a final version) would be best.
> Although I can think of a few scenarios that might make us both happy:
> HTML "paths" that all end in ascii docs, for example.

Good. If SGML is the base, it can be converted into virtually anything:
HTML, ASCII, man-pages (*roff), TeX (not sure about texinfo/info, but
from here to dvi, ps, pdf).

> documentation if they want more detail.  I see this project as more
> "organizing documentation" than "writing documentation".

Okay then.

> On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 10:53:04AM +0200, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:
>> What about using/modifying/enhancing dwww -- I think it would be good
>> to take an existing application as starting point instead of adding
>> another one to those already there (dhelp is there to, but doesn't
>> work for me).

Hmm. I didn´t have dwww on my system, so I checked. It needs a HTTP
server as well as a browser. If getting one of them fails, the user
is stuck. Therefore I´d stay with a system that can produce ASCII and
can be printed. It should mention dwww and dhelp, of course.

SGML is the best way IMHO. The link to file:/usr/doc/HTML/index.html
(what dhelp is) can be included there. This link can be even translated
to a link in PDF, if done right (*might* be a bit complicated though).

> 1) sources of documentation   (LDP, /usr/doc/HOWTO/, etc)

Havoc Pennington´s Debian Tutorial (would be good to have it as a package,
is there already one?), Dale Scheetz´ book which can also be had online
(lost the bookmark, maybe www.linuxpress.com is a starting point), maybe
also http://www.debian.org/%7Ejoey/linx.html

Will keep an open eye.

Cheers,
  Colin

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Re: E-mail with exim tip.

1999-07-23 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "Dieter" == Dieter Jdger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dieter> They use a perl script to rewrite outgoing mail. Now I looked
Dieter> at the doc and found that  option, which can be used
Dieter> to make a director rewriting the address or not. My idea is to
Dieter> allow rewriting for outgoing mail but to disable it for local
Dieter> delivery. Does anybody know how to use rewrite to achieve
Dieter> this?

If you want to use a one to one mapping (that is a localuser won't be
able to send mails with a different address than you yould use this
(well, maybe he can, but I didn't research on this): 

remote_smtp:
  driver = smtp
  headers_remove = "sender:from"
  headers_add = "Sender: ${lookup{$sender_ident}lsearch*{/etc/exim/addresses}\
  {$value}{$local_part}}\n\
  From: ${lookup{$sender_ident}lsearch*{/etc/exim/addresses}\
  {$value}{$local_part}}"

With /etc/exim/addresses

*   "Martin Bialasinski Default" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
martinb "Martin Bialasinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

first column is the local username, "*" is the default entry. Second
column is the address to insert.

If your smarthost does syntax checks on the smtp dialog, you also want 
to set the SMTP envelope throuch the rewite section of exim.conf

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Ciao,
Martin


Re: kernel panic while mounting root fs

1999-07-23 Thread Andrei Ivanov
> 
> Andrew;
> 
> I suppose that my first thought would be to BIOS differences...
> Have you already checked for "memory holes" and "shadow memory"?

Yep, did that check, everything was ok. 

> 
> What is the size difference between the two kernels?
> 

The 2.0.36 is 406K, 2.2.10 is 495K. Both kernels worked before.

> While I am ignorant of the majority of the differences between 2.0-
> and 2.2- kernels is there any chance that a change in the handling of
> the disk geometry by the BIOS affects the 2.2 kernel where the 2.0
> might ignore the change?

That would be a good possibility.
I'll try recompiling the kernel with all the BIOS/mb fixes in it, see if
that helps. NExt would be to use a different mboard.

Andrew


Re: shutdown -h now : don't power off

1999-07-23 Thread Cuno Sonnemans
Evan Van Dyke wrote:

> Have you compiled the kernel with
> APM: Poweroff on shutdown
> enabled?  Linux doesn't do this unless you tell the
> kernel to do so in the config before you compile it.
>
> --Evan
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Where can I Find APM option
in menuconfig. I can't find it.
I'am using kernel 2.036

Cuno


Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines (ITP)

1999-07-23 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "Michael" == Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Michael> What do you mean by ASCII links?  You just mean references?
Michael> I don't mind providing and ASCII version, but I think that
Michael> for ease of navigation, well designed HTML (as a final
Michael> version) would be best.

If you write the thing in SGML, you don't decide on a output format,
you describe content. Then you run it through a parser, which outputs
HTML, plain text, postscript or any other format (provided someone
wrote the routines :-)

Ciao,
Martin
 


Re: shutdown -h now : don't power off

1999-07-23 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "Halis" == Halis Osman Erkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Halis> As it seen your APM daemon is not working.

Which is only needed, if one wants to suspend the box. It is not
needed for poweroff on shutdown (apmd will be killed long before
anyway, so it has no effect).

Ciao,
Martin


Re: newbie q about perl modules

1999-07-23 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "Stephen" == Stephen Pitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Stephen> Yup, also, when you get a custom module from CPAN, put it in
Stephen> /usr/local/lib/site_perl, the proper place for downloaded
Stephen> modules.

This is the default place, when installing modules manually (or
through CPAN.pm).

So it really is easy. perl -MCPAN -e "install foo"

Ciao,
Martin


HP Deskjet 420C - compatible?

1999-07-23 Thread Anthony Campbell
Anyone know if the HP Deskjet 420C is compatible with Linux?

The hardware HOWTO says the 400 series is compatible so I think
it should be, but does anyone know for sure?


Anthony


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Re: apt-get: upgrade one package to particular version?

1999-07-23 Thread Bill Leach
I too am woefully ignorant of apt...

You should not need however to put on hold any package installed using 
dpkg if the package that was obtained is a later release than listed in
the available.

I have done this nearly countless times without ever using hold and no
problem has ever come up.

On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 10:04:00PM -, Pollywog wrote:
> 
> On 22-Jul-99 Carl Fink wrote:
> >> apt-get --install icewm
> >> 
> >> should be all you need to do.
> > 
> > No, actually it isn't, since that would install the version in
> > *stable*.  That's what I have installed now.  What I'd like to do is
> > install the version in *unstable*, without changing all my other
> > packages to the unstable version.
> 
> I don't know if there is a way to do that with apt-get, so I have just
> downloaded the packages and installed them manually and then put the packages
> on "hold" just to be safe.
> 
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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Philip Lehman
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Adam Shand wrote:

>> >i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but couldn't
>> >really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?
>> It's the glibc from unstable.
>
>but i thought there were several posts from people claiming that "it worked
>just fine for them" and they were using glibc 2.1?

I didn't follow this list lately, so I'm probably not up to date.

However, this is the last explanation I remember and corresponds to my
experience too.  Right after moving to glibc 2.1, netscape started
giving me those bus errors. I'm not running an all potato system, just
slink with some unstable stuff thrown in and glibc seems to be the
only relevant part in my case, but I may be overlooking something.

This is a *royal* PITA. If you find out more, please post it.

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Re: kernel panic while mounting root fs

1999-07-23 Thread Bill Leach
Andrew;

I suppose that my first thought would be to BIOS differences...
Have you already checked for "memory holes" and "shadow memory"?

What is the size difference between the two kernels?

While I am ignorant of the majority of the differences between 2.0-
and 2.2- kernels is there any chance that a change in the handling of
the disk geometry by the BIOS affects the 2.2 kernel where the 2.0
might ignore the change?

On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 12:51:33AM -0500, Andrei Ivanov wrote:
> I just had to replace a motherboard in my Linux box (floppy controller
> went bad) and now, for some reason, when I'm trying to boot my 2.2.10
> kernel, I get kernel panic while mounting root fs.
> I can't reproduce the exact message right now, but it seems that while
> booting it's doing a normal partition check and fails then.
> However, I can boot my 2.0.36 kernel off the boot disk without a single
> problem (yet, I might get some headaches because I can not recompile the
> 2.0.36 kernel since I switched to 2.2.10)
> Any idea why 2.2.10 panics and 2.0.36 boots? 
> 
> TIA,
>  Andrew
> 
> 
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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Matt Kopishke
I had that problem, the fix (for me at least) was deleteing my ~/.netscape
Dunno why, but somthing get corupted.

-Matt-

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Re: X whacks PPP in Debian's Slink

1999-07-23 Thread John Hasler
Brian Wildasinn writes:
> So here's the problem: PPP works fine except when XWindow is running!

You may have an IRQ conflict between your mouse and your modem.  What port
is your modem on?
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SVGALib

1999-07-23 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Does anybody know where can I find a good FAQ about SVGALIB, or (that
would be better) can explain me, how to run svgalib as a normal user?

thanks

ruoso


defrag

1999-07-23 Thread Cheshire
I wanted to defrag my file system but on the command 'defrag /dev/hda5'
and 'e2defrag /dev/hda5' I get: [e2]defrag: bad magic number in
super-block

Feedback welcome and appreciated.

|cheshire|


Re: RMail & POP config

1999-07-23 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 03:46:00PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Could the knowledgeable people here please point me to some information 
> sources
> on this topic, and if possible, send me an sample .emacs file ?

The simplest thing is probably to install and set up fetchmail (there's
a GUI configuration tool) and not have RMAIL deal with it.

There are much nicer mailers than RMAIL - for Emacs ones, take a look at 
VM or Gnus.

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Re: PPP Connection Problems

1999-07-23 Thread paul . walton
On 23 Jul, Cheshire wrote:
>> > Jul 20 00:51:29 cheshire chat[304]: send (ATZ^M)
>> > Jul 20 00:51:29 cheshire chat[304]: expect (OK)
>> > Jul 20 00:51:38 cheshire chat[304]:
>> > Jul 20 00:51:48 cheshire chat[304]: OK
>> > Jul 20 00:51:48 cheshire chat[304]:  -- got it
>> > Jul 20 00:51:48 cheshire chat[304]: send (ATDT7770591^M)
>> > Jul 20 00:51:48 cheshire chat[304]: expect (CONNECT)
>> > Jul 20 00:51:48 cheshire chat[304]: ^M
>> > Jul 20 00:51:58 cheshire chat[304]: ATZ^M^M
>> > Jul 20 00:51:58 cheshire chat[304]: OK^M
>> > Jul 20 00:52:33 cheshire chat[304]: alarm
>> > Jul 20 00:52:33 cheshire chat[304]: Failed
>> > Jul 20 00:52:33 cheshire pppd[300]: Connect script failed
>> > Jul 20 00:52:34 cheshire pppd[300]: Exit.
>> 
>> This log shows the system neither dialing nor connecting.
>> Can you really hear it dial?
> 
> Actually, ya :)
> 
> I could hear a dial and subsequent connection, but everything kinda
> terminated after that.
> 
> But I did nail down the problem and tried to let everyone know with a
> message that you might have missed--I hadn't run setserial to resolve my
> non-default irq.
> 
> But with that I've run into another small thing. I run 'setserial
> /dev/ttyS2 irq 5' and voila, problems solved, except if I reboot, that
> setting is lost and I must run setserial again. Can anyone tell me how
> to permanently set it, or at least run setserial on boot up?
> 
> thanx
> 
> |cheshire|
> 
> ps--sorry to those that I sent this message to personally via 'reply'. I
> hate how it doesn't set debian-user for the reply to field :|
> 
>

try uncommenting the /dev/ttyS2 line in the
manual part of the /etc/rc.boot/0setserial file and altering it to match
your configuration. I`m no expert but it worked for me.

Paul





Icecast

1999-07-23 Thread P. van Tilburg

Hi all,

I wanted to experiment a little with icecast, so I apt-ed icecast-server
and icecast-client (1.0.0).

I went to www.icecast.org, read the FAQ and gettin started and started...
I set up the server with default values, (port: 8000 client, poort: 8001
encoder and poort 8002: remote admin)

/etc/init.d/icecast restart
works fine, it is ready,
then I start shout, that works fine too, but then it is going to
send data to icecast on port 8001, that doesn't seem to work.
netstat shows me all packages from shout are waiting to get to port 8001.

telnet localhost 8002 (remote admin)doesn't work either, and shout isn't 
getting very far with the mp3 it wants to send. And all of the sudden,
icecast gives errors, accepts the remote connection and the client for a few
secs and then starts forking hundreds of icecasts servers, draining all my RAM
and swap like hell. Then icecasts stops, I have to killall them...

my: /var/log/icecast.log

source(/1):~$ cat  /var/log/icecast.log 
[23/Jul/1999:18:59:47] Icecast Version 1.0.0 Starting...
[23/Jul/1999:18:59:47] server started...
[23/Jul/1999:18:59:47] listening for encoders on port 8001...
[23/Jul/1999:18:59:47] listening for clients on port 8000...
[23/Jul/1999:18:59:47] listening for remote admin on port 8002...
[23/Jul/1999:18:59:47] waiting for encoder or redirection...
[23/Jul/1999:18:59:52] encoder [127.0.0.1:15108] connecting...
[23/Jul/1999:18:59:52] password accepted...
|
| /* This DIDN't take 1 minute, this took 10 minutes? */
|
[23/Jul/1999:19:09:53] directory_add() failed... directory server error #0...
[23/Jul/1999:19:19:55] directory_touch() failed... directory server error #0...
[23/Jul/1999:19:19:55] remote admin [127.0.0.1:19204] connecting...
[23/Jul/1999:19:19:55] remote admin [127.0.0.1:20484] connecting...
[23/Jul/1999:19:19:55] password not accepted from remote admin...
[23/Jul/1999:19:20:56] lost encoder... kicking clients...
/* Forking all that servers, so much that bash gives with some scripts: 
fork() no longer available. */
--

TIA,

Paul

~~
Student @  |  Using the Power of Linux...
Eindhoven University of|  ICQ: 8678828  
Technology, The Netherlands|  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-23 Thread Kjetil Ødegaard
* Steve Lamb
|
| On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:11:58 -0400, Buddha Buck wrote:
| 
| >What is there that BBEdit can do that Emacs can't?
| 
| Emacs isn't an editor.

Agreed.  It's an editor-builder.

-- 
Gravity brings me down.


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Adam Shand

> >i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but couldn't
> >really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?
> >
> >- p2-266 128mb ram
> >- kernel 2.2.9
> >- glibc 2.1.1-13
> 
> It's the glibc from unstable.

but i thought there were several posts from people claiming that "it worked
just fine for them" and they were using glibc 2.1?

adam.


Re: PPP Connection Problems

1999-07-23 Thread Cheshire
> > Jul 20 00:51:29 cheshire chat[304]: send (ATZ^M)
> > Jul 20 00:51:29 cheshire chat[304]: expect (OK)
> > Jul 20 00:51:38 cheshire chat[304]:
> > Jul 20 00:51:48 cheshire chat[304]: OK
> > Jul 20 00:51:48 cheshire chat[304]:  -- got it
> > Jul 20 00:51:48 cheshire chat[304]: send (ATDT7770591^M)
> > Jul 20 00:51:48 cheshire chat[304]: expect (CONNECT)
> > Jul 20 00:51:48 cheshire chat[304]: ^M
> > Jul 20 00:51:58 cheshire chat[304]: ATZ^M^M
> > Jul 20 00:51:58 cheshire chat[304]: OK^M
> > Jul 20 00:52:33 cheshire chat[304]: alarm
> > Jul 20 00:52:33 cheshire chat[304]: Failed
> > Jul 20 00:52:33 cheshire pppd[300]: Connect script failed
> > Jul 20 00:52:34 cheshire pppd[300]: Exit.
> 
> This log shows the system neither dialing nor connecting.
> Can you really hear it dial?

Actually, ya :)

I could hear a dial and subsequent connection, but everything kinda
terminated after that.

But I did nail down the problem and tried to let everyone know with a
message that you might have missed--I hadn't run setserial to resolve my
non-default irq.

But with that I've run into another small thing. I run 'setserial
/dev/ttyS2 irq 5' and voila, problems solved, except if I reboot, that
setting is lost and I must run setserial again. Can anyone tell me how
to permanently set it, or at least run setserial on boot up?

thanx

|cheshire|

ps--sorry to those that I sent this message to personally via 'reply'. I
hate how it doesn't set debian-user for the reply to field :|


Re: Monitoring precise data in and out of eth1

1999-07-23 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 10:56:15AM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> My ISP is wireless which means a 24/7 service which charges for usage over
> 600 Megs of days in and out in a month.  The connection is via an antenna
> and thence an rj45 cable into a NIC.
> 
> The NIC is eth1.  Is there a term for measuring data throughput on a NIC and
> how would I set about doing it?
> 

/proc/net/dev will give you the raw data in bytes. 
FWIW, I wrote a small program that tells you how
much data your NICs have transferred since your last reboot
I've attached it. It needs the python-base package.
Run it with the -h option to get an argument summary.
-- 
Stephen Pitts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
#!/usr/bin/env python
"""
NicInfo: display the number of bytes sent/received by your NICs
nicinfo -r PRECISION (-m | -g | -k) (INTERFACE)
-m  show output in megabytes
-g  show output in gigabytes
-k  show output in kilobytes
-r  specify decimal places to round to (default: 0)

If INTERFACE is not specified, shows stats for all devices
"""

from string import split, strip
import getopt
from sys import argv, exit

class NicInfo:
def __init__(self, data_string):
phase1 = split(data_string, ":");
self.name = strip(phase1[0])
phase2 = split(phase1[1])
self.recvbytes = float(phase2[0])
self.sentbytes = float(phase2[8])
try:
dev_file = open("/proc/net/dev", "r")
except IOError:
print "Can't open /proc/net/dev"
exit(0)

dev_file.readline()
dev_file.readline()

real_data = dev_file.read()
nics = {}
for nic in split(real_data, "\n"):
if nic == "": break
nic_info = NicInfo(nic)
nics[nic_info.name] = nic_info

try:
args, show_nics = getopt.getopt(argv[1:], "gmkhr:")
except getopt.error:
print "Invalid argument", __doc__
exit(1)

if not show_nics: show_nics = nics.keys()

divisor = 1
identifier = "bytes"
prec = 0

if len(args) > 0:
for thearg in args:
if thearg[0] == "-m":
divisor = 1024 * 1024
identifier = "megabytes"
elif thearg[0] == "-k":
divisor = 1024
identifier = "kilobytes"
elif thearg[0] ==  "-g":
divisor = 1024 * 1024 * 1024
identifier = "gigabytes"
elif thearg[0] == "-r":
prec = int(thearg[1])
elif thearg[0] == "-h":
print __doc__
exit(0)

for nic in show_nics:
try:
nic_info = nics[nic]
except KeyError:
print "Can't find nic", nic
continue
nic_info.sentbytes = nic_info.sentbytes / divisor
nic_info.recvbytes = nic_info.recvbytes / divisor
print ("%s: sent %.*f %s; received %.*f %s" 
% ( nic_info.name, prec, nic_info.sentbytes, identifier, 
prec, nic_info.recvbytes, identifier) )


README: Reporting Bugs

1999-07-23 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom

 We appreciate the bug reports you, as users, submit to the bug
 tracking system.  It helps us improve the software.  When you do find 
 a bug, and wish to report it, please:

 * Use one of the bug reporting tools: `bug' or `reportbug'.  You can
   set your EDITOR environment variable, and it will use your prefered
   editing tool.  It will write in the proper pseudo headers for the
   BTS to parse, and it will fill in the version number and some
   dependancy information.  All you type is the report itself.  This
   makes things easier for both you and the maintainer(s) who will
   read the bug report.

 * !!! Before you submit a bug report, check to see if the bug has
   already been reported !!!  The bugged package's maintainer must do
   work to merge duplicate bug reports, to fix bugs or apply patches
   then upload the new release, and to close reports after the bug has
   been swatted.

   It eases our labor some if you don't re-report bugs that someone
   else has already reported...  UNLESS you have additional
   information that you feel we'll need.  So PLEASE, go to the Debian
   web site, at http://www.debian.org>, follow the link to the
   bug tracking system, and use the provided interface to look up bugs
   on the package.  Look for ones that might be the similar thing to
   what you've found wrong, and read them.  If you feel the other
   reporter did a good enough job, you're done.

 * If you know how to fix the problem, have the time to do so, and the
   diff is non-trivial, PLEASE take the time to fix the problem and
   submit a patch along with your bug report.  Your patch should be
   accompanied by a `ChangeLog' entry or a short paragraph or two
   itemizing and detailing the modifications.  (See: the GNU Coding
   Standards info documentation for good stuff about ChangeLogs.)
   Please don't send a patch for the ChangeLog, but send a paste-in of
   the relevant entry or entries.  You will be given credit for the
   bugfix, and your patch will be forwarded to the upstream author if
   that is appropriate.  Software doesn't just spring into existance
   into empty *scratch* buffers.  It takes time and effort to produce.
   We appreciate people who help us carry the load.

   (If you're bored and want something to do, go look up bugs on
   things, and submit patches...  I would be good to check with the
   maintainer first, to see if it still needs to be done.)

  Thank you for using and supporting Debian GNU Linux/Hurd!

Karl M. Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 (Maybe I'm out on a limb... I'm hoping that the other maintainers
 think the similar way; so maybe I speak for Debian, maybe just for
 myself.  You know how that is.  Either they'll agree that I'm right
 or they won't.)


Re:dselect error message

1999-07-23 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 23 Jul, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about "Re:dselect error message"
> On 22 Jul, Brian Servis wrote:
>> *- On 22 Jul, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about "dselect error message"
>>> I originally installed the base debian packages from cd and when
>>> everything seemed ok I connected via the apt option to the default serv
>>> er (debian.org I think) in order to get Netscape amongst other things.
>>> However dselect stops at the install stage telling me that
>>> /var/cache/apt/archives/ is full. what should I do?
>>> 
>> 
>> Sounds like your /var partition is full.  What does 'df -m /var' say?
>> You need to either increase the size of the /var partition or symlink
>> /var/cache/apt to another partition with more room.  The later is the
>> quick and easy solution.
>> 
>> cd /var/cache
>> mv apt /path/to/partition/with/room
>> ln -s /path/to/partition/with/room/apt apt
>> 
> 
> Thanks for the reply.
> df -m /var gives me:
> 
> "Filesystem MB-blocksUsed Available Capacity Mounted on
> /dev/hda1 47  359 80%   /"
> 
> When I partitioned the drive (a 1.6gb) I only made a small root
> partition, a swap partition and a main partition. I don`t mind
> re-installing at this stage so would re-partitioning be the better
> option and if so what would be adequate partition sizes for the
> foreseeable future use of the machine? I`d prefer the better option to
> the easier one although please realise that I`m a bit of a newbie so
> keep it simple! :-)
> 

Not sure what your destinction is between root and main, what does 'df
-m' show?  For a single user home machine on one drive I would suggest
the following partitions.

/hda1 
swap hda2
/homehda3
/usr/local   hda4

As for the size realize that / will get all the system files. If you
are going to run X and large apps like netscape give your self a
healthy swap, maybe 2x mem.  Set the size of /home and /usr/local to
appropriate sizes based on what you expect to use them for.  If you
will be installing a lot of non-Debian software then give /usr/local
enough room to grow.

It is a good idea to keep /home and /usr/local on separate partitions
in case you need to reinstall.  That way you will not loose your files
that Debian does not touch. Put swap in the middle of the drive so that
the drive head doesn't have to travel as far during a swap. Others will
have their own opinions of course.

For /usr/local you will have an empty directory called local under the
/usr directory to use as a mount point. An entry in /etc/fstab of
the following will automatically mount the /usr/local/partion at boot.

/dev/hda?   /usr/local   ext2   defaults  0   2

-- 
Brian 
-
Mechanical Engineering  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Purdue University   http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis
-


Unable to remount root fs

1999-07-23 Thread Ramiel G.

We have a server that after getting rebooted never came back up

now it just hangs on the message:

"Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode."

it is able to mount it at first try but not the second
I cheked the fstab and it's correct

this is an Intel N440BX MB w/P3 chip using Symbios NCR58Cxxx controller

has anyone ever had this problem?

Thanks,
  Ramiel





Ramiel Givergis, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.relm.net
--~~~===<[^]>===~~~--
This mail is a natural product.  The slight variations in spelling and
grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to
be considered flaws or defects.


Solid Web Browser for Sparc

1999-07-23 Thread Mike Lieberman
I have 'arena' running on the Sparc station, but is clearly a browser of
limitted capability.

The netscape4 base package doesn't seem to provide a runable binary and the
Netscape Java packages need a netscape 4.5, which does seem to be avaiable
for the sparc. Does any user who is running on a sparc know of a good
browser that can handle java and frames?

/* Mike Lieberman[EMAIL PROTECTED] */


gv with neXtaw anyone?

1999-07-23 Thread Philip Lehman
I'm trying to build gv using neXtaw, but it segfaults. Linking to
neXtaw works fine with Xaw based apps for me, but I'm not sure about
replacing Xaw3d with neXtaw. 

Is this at all possible or am I getting somthing wrong here?

-- 
Philip Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re:dselect error message

1999-07-23 Thread paul . walton
On 22 Jul, Brian Servis wrote:
> *- On 22 Jul, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about "dselect error message"
>> I originally installed the base debian packages from cd and when
>> everything seemed ok I connected via the apt option to the default serv
>> er (debian.org I think) in order to get Netscape amongst other things.
>> However dselect stops at the install stage telling me that
>> /var/cache/apt/archives/ is full. what should I do?
>> 
> 
> Sounds like your /var partition is full.  What does 'df -m /var' say?
> You need to either increase the size of the /var partition or symlink
> /var/cache/apt to another partition with more room.  The later is the
> quick and easy solution.
> 
> cd /var/cache
> mv apt /path/to/partition/with/room
> ln -s /path/to/partition/with/room/apt apt
> 

Thanks for the reply.
df -m /var gives me:

"Filesystem MB-blocksUsed Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hda1 47  359 80%   /"

When I partitioned the drive (a 1.6gb) I only made a small root
partition, a swap partition and a main partition. I don`t mind
re-installing at this stage so would re-partitioning be the better
option and if so what would be adequate partition sizes for the
foreseeable future use of the machine? I`d prefer the better option to
the easier one although please realise that I`m a bit of a newbie so
keep it simple! :-)

Thanks again,without this list I`d have given up ages ago.

Paul


Re: mc: How to terminate an FTP connection ?

1999-07-23 Thread David Wright
Quoting shaul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Package: mc
> Version: 4.5.1-1.1
> 
> I have another mc (midnight commander) question.
> How can I terminate an ftp connection made from within mc ?
> The fact that I can not terminate such a connection at will has 2
> implications for me:
> 1) I am holding an unused connection to the server until its timeout closes 
> it.

If you need to close the connection so you can poff, say, I'd
just quit with F10 and then mc again.

> 2) I can not connect again to the server afterwards unless I exit mc and then 
> run it again. The reason for this is that mc will not agree to reopen the 
> connection since it knows that it was closed.

I'm not sure what you mean here. My observations are
a) if you move up off the top of the ftp tree (e.g. too many
left arrow keystrokes), you can reconnect with F9 P without
quoting the password,
b) if the connection has timed out, you can reconnect by pressing
Ctrl-R. Sometimes you get back an empty file list, in which case
you can press Ctrl-R once more and it retries getting the list.
(Repeat slowly if necessary, and watch the dialogue at the foot
of the screen.)

Cheers,

-- 
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Tel: +44 1908 653 739  Fax: +44 1908 655 151
Snail:  David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA
Disclaimer:   These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify
official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.


Re: [Fwd: Lynx Problems]

1999-07-23 Thread Keith G. Murphy
David Karlin wrote:
> 
> > You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding.  A good PPP (or other
> > network) connection is necessary for any browser to work.  
Um, yes, I meant in the context of viewing pages on the Internet.  Sorry
to mislead. 
> > No browser
> > can work independently of that, or debug your connection for you.  So
> > what's the knock on lynx if it didn't work when you didn't have the
> > connection established?
> 
> Lynx can also view local html pages (i.e. ones one your local system).
> To find out if it is a lynx problem or one with ppp, try to open a
> local page.
> 
Of course, as I suggested in my prior mail.


Re: infomagic

1999-07-23 Thread Buddha Buck
> 
> On 23-Jul-99 Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> > 
> > Check out www.infomagic.com.
> > 
> > The reason they no longer put Debian on their linux toolkit cd's (they
> > say) is that at 4 cd's it is now too large.  So they now have a
> > SEPARATE debian 4 cd set.  The latest (2.1r0x) will be out in August at
> > $15 (plus postage).  You can subscribe for updates at $10 a pop. 
> > Hopefully, the August release will be followed very shortly by the 2.2
> > release? (In a few months anyway).  This is an OFFICIAL Debian release.
> >  Their web page still shows the 'ol blue eyes' logo on the CD.  Someone
> > should tell them about the new logo?
> 
> I thought InfoMagic CD's were not reliable.

If InfoMagic CD's were not reliable, it's because they were cutting 
their CDs (to shoehorn Debian into their toolkit CDs), and not taking 
the same quality control as we do when developing our official CD 
images.

If InfoMagic is now shipping Official Debian CDs, then they are using 
our CD images, so they should be just as reliable as anyone else.  And 
according to Kenneth, that is exactly what htey are doing.


> 
> --
> Andrew
> 
> 
> -- 
> Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
> 
> 

-- 
 Buddha Buck  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our
liberty depends upon the chaos and cacaphony of the unfettered speech
the First Amendment protects."  -- A.L.A. v. U.S. Dept. of Justice



Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists

1999-07-23 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Mark Brown wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 12:43:37AM +, Lee Elliott wrote:
> 
> > Sorry to have peeved you, I do this deliberately so that paragraphs format 
> > OK regardless of window size (I'm only able to check this on YAM & Outlook) 
> > - for me, reading:
> 
> Don't do that!  The standard line length is 80 columns, and all sane
> mail clients can display that without problems.  Most Unix mail clients
> do *not* do word wrapping in either display mode (spacing may be
> signifigant) or when editing replies (there's no way to tell if you
> really did intend to write a 1000 column line or if you just didn't put
> in any line breaks, making line-mode operations useless when editing
> unless the message is re-formatted and requoted).
> 
> This makes your messages very hard to read (especially if the window is
> actually wider than 80 columns - 80 columns is actually a pretty good line
> length for displaying block text), and means that when people reply to you
> your message will be improperly quoted (one mark at the start of the
> paragraph) and often won't have context snipped properly.
> 
The issue here is using "quoted-printable", which is what Lee was doing,
and which I used to do before I learned how people hate it.  It actually
looks very nice indeed in a GUI mail reader like Netscape or (I assume)
YAM, wrapping to the window size.

The currently accepted method (hard line breaks at a certain column) can
break down if you have enough nested levels of quotes.

Only HTML (among formats that some readers can handle) really handles
nested quotes well, IMHO.  It's got a tag just for it.  Do any
text-based readers handle HTML (by spawning Lynx or something)?  Just
curious; I wouldn't *dare* post HTML here.  ;-)


Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists

1999-07-23 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 22 Jul, Wayne Topa wrote about "Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the 
lists"
> 
>   Subject: Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists
>   Date: Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 12:43:37AM +
> 
> In reply to:Lee Elliott
> 
> Quoting Lee Elliott([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>> On 22-Jul-99, you wrote:
>> 
>> >> An observation from this Newbie may be related:  
>> 
>> Sorry to have peeved you, I do this deliberately so that paragraphs format 
>> OK regardless of window size (I'm only able to check this on YAM & Outlook) 
>> - for me, reading:
>> 
> Lee  
>   I notice that the YAM editor does some other odd things.  See above
> the "On 22-Jul-99, you wrote:"  Most mail programs show who the "you"
> was.  I don't see that in your mail.  See how mutt says who I am replying
> to.  That along with the loong lines is different, to say the least.
> 
>   Well if YAM is all you have
> 

In many mailers this attribution line is configurable.  Perhaps Lee has
it set this way, although it is good netiquette[1] to identify who the
'you' is.  Especially in a thread like this when there are nested quotes
from several posts.

-- 
Brian 
-
Mechanical Engineering  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Purdue University   http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis
-

[1] rfc 1855 'Netiquette Guidelines'
[...]
2.1 User Guidelines
[...]
2.1.1 For mail:
[...]
 -If you are forwarding or re-posting a message you've received, 
  do not change the wording. If the message was a personal
  message to you and you are re-posting to a group, you should ask
  permission first. You may shorten the message and quote only
  relevant parts, but be sure you give proper attribution. 
[...]


RE: infomagic

1999-07-23 Thread Pollywog

On 23-Jul-99 Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> 
> Check out www.infomagic.com.
> 
> The reason they no longer put Debian on their linux toolkit cd's (they
> say) is that at 4 cd's it is now too large.  So they now have a
> SEPARATE debian 4 cd set.  The latest (2.1r0x) will be out in August at
> $15 (plus postage).  You can subscribe for updates at $10 a pop. 
> Hopefully, the August release will be followed very shortly by the 2.2
> release? (In a few months anyway).  This is an OFFICIAL Debian release.
>  Their web page still shows the 'ol blue eyes' logo on the CD.  Someone
> should tell them about the new logo?

I thought InfoMagic CD's were not reliable.

--
Andrew


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread J Horacio MG

> > > Anyway, the problem is that Netscape is quite frequently crashing with 
> > >  a "bus error."  This usually happens when I close a Netscape window
> > > (actually, it happens close to half the time when I close a Netscape
> > > window), which is painful because I have to either live with an
> > > ever-growing number of pop-up ads or risk a crash.  Netscape also
> > > crashes when I run very low on virtual memory, with the same error.
> 
> > i'm having this problem as well.  it started when i upgraded to 
> netscape
> > 4.6.  reverting to libc5 4.51 fixed it but when 4.61 came out with 
> support
> > for glibc2.1 i upgraded and i haven't been able to fix it since.  i've 
> tried
> > un/stable 4.5, 4.51, 4.6 and 4.61 and they all break.  all of my 
> netscape
> > windows disappear (sometimes) when i close a window or try to login to 
> an
> > site which requires authentication (pop up window style).
> 
> > i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but 
> couldn't
> > really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?
> 
> > - p2-266 128mb ram
> > - kernel 2.2.9
> > - glibc 2.1.1-13
> > - xfree 3.3.1 (vmware 3.3.1 server)
> > - windowmaker 0.60.0-2
> > - neomagic nmg5
> 
> > if anyone has figured anything out i would love to know the solution.
> 
> - 6x86 133mhz 64megs RAM
> - kernel 2.2.10-ac12 (seen this behavior ever since I switched to 
> Potato, which means glibc2.1 and 2.2.x)
> - xfree86 3.3.3.1
> - enlightenment 0.15.5 (seen that on wmaker 0.52 and up too (i think 
> that was the version I was using))
> 
> I've not noticed this behavior on closing any window BUT a navigator 
> window. The bug seems to be common to navigator and communicator 4.5+ 
> (yes, I've seen this on 4.5 too). I used to think for some reason the 
> main process receives the 'close signal' (I'm no a X programmer ;) 
> twice and crashed due to that.
> 
> >From a different perspective, I'd say Netscape stuff version 4.5 and 
> up still has trouble with glibc 2.1.

No need to go all the way up to potato and Netscape 4.6+, the same
happens to me with a slink installation and Communicator 4.5.

BTW, anyone knows why netscape creates a directory named after the user
within the user's home dir?  ie:  /home/pepe/pepe
 
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infomagic

1999-07-23 Thread Kenneth Scharf

Check out www.infomagic.com.

The reason they no longer put Debian on their linux toolkit cd's (they
say) is that at 4 cd's it is now too large.  So they now have a
SEPARATE debian 4 cd set.  The latest (2.1r0x) will be out in August at
$15 (plus postage).  You can subscribe for updates at $10 a pop. 
Hopefully, the August release will be followed very shortly by the 2.2
release? (In a few months anyway).  This is an OFFICIAL Debian release.
 Their web page still shows the 'ol blue eyes' logo on the CD.  Someone
should tell them about the new logo?
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X whacks PPP in Debian's Slink

1999-07-23 Thread Brian Wildasinn
Hi,
Installed Debian-2.1, "Slink", without anytroubles via an essentials
cdrom,
then installed the rest via ftp. Everything got downloaded, installed,
and configured without any errors whatsoever.

So here's the problem: PPP works fine except when XWindow is running!
No ping packets return from my dynamic PPP remote connection. But as
soon as I end the X session, ping, ftp, telnet all work correctly.

Switching to another window manager has not solved the problem, which
leads me to believe that X is the culprit.

Any suggestions are appreciated!

Brian Wildasinn
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Dvorak

1999-07-23 Thread qxm
How do I change my keybaord over to Dvorak on an already set up slink
install?

thanks
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Re: dselect or apt installation profiles?

1999-07-23 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 23 Jul, Ralf Mueller wrote about "dselect or apt installation profiles?"
> Hello,
> 
> there are preselections for the dselect programm in which several
> packages are selected. 
> 
> Where are this profiles and how can I manipulate them that I can define
> my own 'preselections' beacause I whant to install identical debians on
> several machines and don't want to run the dselect-procedure every time.
> 
> thank you very much
> 

The initial profiles are only available when you first install the
system.  Using those profiles after you have a system installed it can
cause serious problems with dependencies and conflicts.  The proper way
it to set up one machine with all the packages you want.  Then on that
machine issue the command:

dpkg --get-selections > /tmp/selections.list

Then install the base system as usual on the other machines without
choosing any preset profiles.  Then copy that selections.list file to
the new machine and issue:

dpkg --set-selections < selections.list

This will select all the same packages.  Then just issue

apt-get dselect-upgrade

or

start dselect and select Install.


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Re: newbie q about perl modules

1999-07-23 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 04:47:43AM -0400, Larry Huffman wrote:
> I suspect I already know the answer to this, but I'll ask anyway just to make 
> sure.
> 
> What is the proper way to obtain and install perl modules for a Debian 
> system? Should one first see if the module has been packaged and, if so, 
> install it via apt-get? If a module's not packaged, then I assume one would 
> proceed to get it from the CPAN.
> 
> Is this the correct approach?
> 

Yup, also, when you get a custom module from CPAN, 
put it in /usr/local/lib/site_perl, the proper place
for downloaded modules.
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mc: How to terminate an FTP connection ?

1999-07-23 Thread shaul
Package: mc
Version: 4.5.1-1.1

I have another mc (midnight commander) question.
How can I terminate an ftp connection made from within mc ?
The fact that I can not terminate such a connection at will has 2
implications for me:
1) I am holding an unused connection to the server until its timeout closes it.
2) I can not connect again to the server afterwards unless I exit mc and then 
run it again. The reason for this is that mc will not agree to reopen the 
connection since it knows that it was closed.


-- System Information
Debian Release: 2.1
Kernel Version: Linux rakefet 2.0.36 #2 Sun Feb 21 15:55:27 EST 1999 i586 
unknown

Versions of the packages mc depends on:
ii  libc6   2.0.7.19981211 GNU C Library: shared libraries
ii  libgpmg11.14-3 General Purpose Mouse Library [libc6]
ii  libncurses4 4.2-3  Shared libraries for terminal handling
ii  e2fsprogs   1.12-4 The EXT2 file system utilities and libraries
^^^ (Provides virtual package libcomerr2)
ii  e2fsprogs   1.12-4 The EXT2 file system utilities and libraries
^^^ (Provides virtual package libext2fs2)





Re: kernel panic while mounting root fs (fwd)

1999-07-23 Thread Andrei Ivanov
> 
> Andrei Ivanov wrote:
> >
> > Obviosly one of the partitions is not found. Any idea why?
> > Andrew
> > 
> Well, I might have spoken too quickly with my last post :-)
> One other thing to check for is that ext2 support is compiled into the
> kernel. It is kinda hard to tell what might be going on here without
> knowing how your partitions are setup, which ones are for Windows or
> Linux and such. The log output you provided does help :-)

Here is the cfdisk's output:
 NameFlags Part Type FS Type [Label]   Size (MB)
 -
   hdb1Boot   Primary  DOS FAT16  [NO NAME]
20.18*
   hdb2Boot   Primary  Linux ext2   199.83
   hdb4Boot   Primary  Linux ext2
231.83*
   hdb5Boot   Logical  Linux Swap

And ext2 support is compiled into kernel( it has worked before, with my
old motherboard). Maybe it's a hardware problem? Hard to imagine,
thughlinux is not supposed to be like Windows, that one version works
, another doesnt.
Andrew



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New kernel causes kernel panic

1999-07-23 Thread Marc Dubrowski
Hello everybody,

I'm a newbie in compiling kernel, and I don't know exactly what problems are
caused by 2.2.x kernels

I've tried compiling one, and the make menuconfig, make dep make clean and make
ran just fine. It was the kernel provided with slink's packages: kernel-2.2.1.
I don'yt know if it's normal or not, but the make zImage or make vmlinuz didn't
work, so I just typed 'make', and I got a brand new vmlinux file.

I Gzipped it to have it vmlinux.gz, and put the file in the root directory ( /
), beside the vmlinuz file of the kernel 2.0.36.

I work on an alphastation 200 4/166.

I still use the milo version from the debian slink distribution, and the root
directory is on the sda7 partition, so the option in Arcbios for booting are:

boot sda7:vmlinuz root=/dev/sda7

after having replaces vmlinuz with vmlinux.gz, and rebooting, the system seems
to reboot correctly after it finds 3 network devices (eth0, eth1 and eth2; butI
only have two):

eth0: Digital DC21040 Tulip at 0x8800,08 00 2b e6 7a 97, IRQ 15
eth1: Digital DS21142/3 Tulip at 0x9000, 00 00 f8 1a b5 57, IRQ 14.
eth1: Index #0 - media 10baseT(#0) described by a 21142 serial PHY (2) block
eth1: Index #0 - media 10baseT-FD(#4) described by a 21142 serial PHY (2) block
eth1: Index #0 - media 100baseTx (#3) described by a 21143 SYM PHY (4) block
eth1: Index #0 - media 10baseTx-FD(#5) described by a 21143 SYM PHY (4) block
eth2: region already allocated at 0x8800.
eth2: region already allocated at 0x9000.


and then says:

VFS: cannot open root device 08:07
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:07

And then, everything is stopped, and I have to reboot.

Could someone explain what the problem can be, or direct me to some information.


Thanks
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xcircuit - it does not respond to the kbd.

1999-07-23 Thread shaul
Package: xcircuit
Version: 2.0a6-3

>From time to time xcircuit does not respond to the kbd.
To be more specific, it seems to ignore it. It does respond to the mouse, 
though. I believe that this happens if I quit xcircuit and then activate it 
again, as if it remembers that it was running at least once. .xsession-errors 
shows nothing. The only thing that helps is restarting the machine (booting 
it). Restarting xdm does not help.
1) Am I the only one who confronted that ?
2) What else should I try instead of booting the machine ? Where could I look 
in order to give some meaningful clues to more knowledgeable people ?

-- System Information
Debian Release: 2.1
Kernel Version: Linux rakefet 2.0.36 #2 Sun Feb 21 15:55:27 EST 1999 i586 
unknow
n

Versions of the packages xcircuit depends on:
ii  libc6   2.0.7.19981211 GNU C Library: shared libraries
ii  xlib6g  3.3.2.3a-11shared libraries required by X clients
ii  xpm4g   3.4j-0.6   X Pixmap libraries (for libc6) - runtime



Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines (ITP)

1999-07-23 Thread Michael Stenner
On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 08:24:06PM +0200, Colin Marquardt wrote:
> * Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > a) using html  (this would help us -- we'd just mirror each other)
> 
> We still need an ASCII document that tells newbies about lynx or
> Netscape in that case, IMO.

Agreed.

> 
> > b) having a table of contents and index ( <- index might be hard )
> ^^
> 
> Not too much if the base is SGML or (La)TeX.

That makes me happy.  It will probably be in debiandoc-sgml by Martin
Bialasinski's suggestion.  I'll have to look into this, though.

> > c) trying to keep the documentation very short (ideally a page or
> >less) and step by step, with links to more complete info.
> 
> This "very short documenation" should be in plain ASCII, IMO. It
> should include links, of course, whereever they may lead.

What do you mean by ASCII links?  You just mean references?  I don't
mind providing and ASCII version, but I think that for ease of
navigation, well designed HTML (as a final version) would be best.
Although I can think of a few scenarios that might make us both happy:
HTML "paths" that all end in ascii docs, for example.

> I also think that the bigger newbie documentation you seem to have in
> mind (judging from the TOC and index reference) is already written,
> manyfold. We just need a "jump-station" to the best of them, put in a
> prominent place (/etc/motd was my suggestion for a jump-station to
> the jump-station).

That's precisely what I had in mind.  For example, On compiling in
sound support, I would list the things they need to type and click
with only modest fill.  I would refer to the mountains of
documentation if they want more detail.  I see this project as more
"organizing documentation" than "writing documentation".

On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 10:53:04AM +0200, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:
> What about using/modifying/enhancing dwww -- I think it would be good
> to take an existing application as starting point instead of adding
> another one to those already there (dhelp is there to, but doesn't
> work for me).

Great.  At this point, what I am most interested in is finding what
documentation and documentation frameworks already exist.  In fact, I
think I'd like to work on that exclusively for now.  I will certainly
make note of topics that should be included, but in the present, I
will focus on _centralizing_ the documentation in the "best" way.  

If anyone else wants to tell me about

1) sources of documentation   (LDP, /usr/doc/HOWTO/, etc)

2) documentation frameworks   (dhelp, dwww, info, etc)

both would be very welcome.  There's so much good stuff out there that
I'm sure even "not-so-new"bies like myself don't know about all of
them.

-Michael

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Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists

1999-07-23 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists
Date: Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 12:36:06AM -0700

In reply to:Mark Wagnon

Quoting Mark Wagnon([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Mark Brown wrote:
> To check that I'm not unknowingly sending long lines, how does
> this look? Messed up threads and jacked quotes *are* irritating.
> I hope I'm not one of the culprits.
> 
Fine! You arn't.
-- 
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 Never trust a computer bigger than you can lift.
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Re: cron, crontab, etc. [update]

1999-07-23 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: cron, crontab, etc. [CORRECTION]
Date: Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 04:22:03PM -0400

In reply to:Wayne Topa

Quoting Wayne Topa([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
>   Subject: Re: cron, crontab, etc. [CORRECTION]
>   Date: Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 02:49:10PM -0300
> 
> In reply to:Daniel Ruoso
> 
> Quoting Daniel Ruoso([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > actually the most eficient will be:
> > 
> > 0 */6 * * * etc...
> > 
> > Daniel Ruoso
 
Daniel

  [ after slapping forehead ]
  Just realized why i didn't use your  method.
I didn't want to run the locate every 6 hours!  As I do most of 
my file loads during the day, why run it overnight.  Besides, that was
when I was in the [just from] Windoze mode.  I didn't 'dare' let the
system run 24/7, then. 
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ANSI telnet program

1999-07-23 Thread Daniel Maupin
I need to know if their is any ANSI art compatlible telnet programs avalible 
that will work with Debian.  I just have to play on the new Userfriendly bbs :)
I looked around and couldn't find one.
Thanks

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Re: kernel panic while mounting root fs (fwd)

1999-07-23 Thread Paul Miller
Andrei Ivanov wrote:
>
> Obviosly one of the partitions is not found. Any idea why?
> Andrew
> 
Well, I might have spoken too quickly with my last post :-)
One other thing to check for is that ext2 support is compiled into the
kernel. It is kinda hard to tell what might be going on here without
knowing how your partitions are setup, which ones are for Windows or
Linux and such. The log output you provided does help :-)

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Re: kernel panic while mounting root fs

1999-07-23 Thread Paul Miller
Most of the time when I see this problem, it is because there is no
support for the drive compiled in the kernel. Did you check the
following under the Block Device section of menuconfig when compilinf
the 2.2.10 kernel?

Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL disk/cdrom/tape/floppy support
Include IDE/ATA-2 DISK support

This is of course assuming an IDE hard drive.

Hope this helps,

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Re: shutdown -h now : don't power off

1999-07-23 Thread Halis Osman Erkan
As it seen your APM daemon is not working.
The result from the ps aux command points the query you have just entered.
It means PID 2169 is your ps aux commands  PID. Not APM's PID.

So you must have re-compile kernel with advanced power management support
APM. Or a little bit chance try to start apm deamon just typing

#apmd

it will comment you if your kernel supports APM. 

good luck

Halis Osman ERKAN


On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Khalid EZZARAOUI wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> for your question :
> 
> 
> This is a summary of what I have done:
> 
> I set the APM option in the kernel 2.2.10.
> if I do "halt", my box act like the use of "reboot" : it reboots
> using the shutdown of windows95 act as i want : power off the computer
> the command :
> #ps aux |grep apm
>root  2169  0.0  0.3  1148  416 pts/0S15:39   0:00 
> grep apm*
> 
> to be sure I am recompiling my kernel.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: slrn - posting to newsgroup rejected

1999-07-23 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Mark Brown wrote:

> Well, see the questions above.  Try moving the articles into the
> outgoing directory and running slrnpull from the command line.  Try
> looking in the system logs in /var/log to see if any information went 
> there.

Aah!  I found a log in /var/spool/slrnpull containing log entries since
June 1998.  Shouldn't it be in /var/log? 
---
07/20/1999 21:56:44 Connecting to host news.saix.co.za ...  07/20/1999
21:57:37 Connected to host.  Posting Ok.  07/20/1999 21:57:37 Attempting
to post /var/spool/slrnpull/out.going/X932481060-2322-1.jhspies... 

07/20/1999 21:57:39 ***Article
/var/spool/slrnpull/out.going/X932481060-2322-1.jhspies rejected. status =
441: 441 No valid newsgroups in "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". 

07/20/1999 21:57:39 ***Saving article in
/var/spool/slrnpull/out.going/rejects... 

07/20/1999 21:57:39 ***Posting of
/var/spool/slrnpull/out.going/X932481060-2322-1.jhspies failed. 

Question:  Why is slrnpull looking for newsgrous in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which is my email address while the news server is
news.saix.co.za?

Johann


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RMail & POP config

1999-07-23 Thread arifi
Hi,

I am trying to setup Emacs/RMail as my main e-mail client, and I have a dial-up

connection to the internet. The mail server is POP3. I browsed the emacs manual

but what is said there about rmail and pop3 did not talk to me that much.

Could the knowledgeable people here please point me to some information sources

on this topic, and if possible, send me an sample .emacs file ?

Many thanks in advance,
Arifi Koseoglu
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Re: shutdown -h now : don't power off

1999-07-23 Thread Philip Lehman
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Khalid EZZARAOUI wrote:

>I set the APM option in the kernel 2.2.10.
>if I do "halt", my box act like the use of "reboot" : it reboots
>using the shutdown of windows95 act as i want : power off the computer
>the command :
>#ps aux |grep apm
>   root  2169  0.0  0.3  1148  416 pts/0S15:39   0:00 grep 
> apm*
>
>to be sure I am recompiling my kernel.

Have you tried calling shutdown via /sbin/poweroff?

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Re: shutdown -h now : don't power off

1999-07-23 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
Hi,

for your question :


This is a summary of what I have done:

I set the APM option in the kernel 2.2.10.
if I do "halt", my box act like the use of "reboot" : it reboots
using the shutdown of windows95 act as i want : power off the computer
the command :
#ps aux |grep apm
   root  2169  0.0  0.3  1148  416 pts/0S15:39   0:00 grep 
apm*

to be sure I am recompiling my kernel.



Re: default font for Xaw - Applications

1999-07-23 Thread Philip Lehman
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Bernhard Rieder wrote:

>Since I installed Xfsft all the text-widgets of Xaw-applications are
>nearly unreadable (Xaw uses a tiny awful font). Where can I set the
>default font for _all_ applications ?

Technically, in your .xdefaults file. Take a look at editres, it will
give you the complete ressource tree for athena based apps and can
change ressources on-the-fly. Very useful to find the most convenient
settings (you have to put them manually in .xdefaults, though). 

But if xfsft messed it up, rearranging the paths in xfsft's config
file will do the trick. Just copy you old xfs paths and append the
paths to your ttf fonts at the end of the list.

HTH.

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Re: modem line speed

1999-07-23 Thread Philip Lehman
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Shao Zhang wrote:

>   I have 33.6k modem, but windoze reports 56700bps, I have tried to set 
> with
>   the string W2, and it still reports 56700bps. Hopefully, linux will 
> give me
>   a correct value.

Invoke chat with the -r option from your /etc/ppp/peers/my_isp file.
It will write the connect speed to a (custom) log file.

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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Philip Lehman
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Adam Shand wrote:

>i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but couldn't
>really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?
>
>- p2-266 128mb ram
>- kernel 2.2.9
>- glibc 2.1.1-13

It's the glibc from unstable.

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Monitoring precise data in and out of eth1

1999-07-23 Thread Patrick Kirk
Hi all,

My ISP is wireless which means a 24/7 service which charges for usage over
600 Megs of days in and out in a month.  The connection is via an antenna
and thence an rj45 cable into a NIC.

The NIC is eth1.  Is there a term for measuring data throughput on a NIC and
how would I set about doing it?

Happy to browse a man page or howto if the answer is long.

Patrick

"Very funny Scottie; now beam my clothes up as well" - Kirk to Scottie


modem line speed

1999-07-23 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
How do I determine what modem line speed I currently have.

I have 33.6k modem, but windoze reports 56700bps, I have tried to set 
with
the string W2, and it still reports 56700bps. Hopefully, linux will 
give me
a correct value.

Thanks.

Shao.

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Re: E-mail with exim tip.

1999-07-23 Thread Dieter Jäger
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On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Hans van den Boogert wrote:
>There was some discussion on how to set up Exim a few days back. I found
>the following article in the Linux Gazette
>(http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue43/stumpel.html) and it was useful (for
...
>-- Hans

They use a perl script to rewrite outgoing mail. Now I looked at the doc and
found that  option, which can be used to make a director rewriting the
address or not. My idea is to allow rewriting for outgoing mail but to
disable it for local delivery. Does anybody know how to use rewrite to achieve
this?

DJ
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Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines (ITP)

1999-07-23 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> What do you think about:
> 
> a) using html  (this would help us -- we'd just mirror each other)
>   
> b) having a table of contents and index ( <- index might be hard )
>   
What about using/modifying/enhancing dwww -- I think it would be good
to take an existing application as starting point instead of adding
another one to those already there (dhelp is there to, but doesn't
work for me).

Greetings,
joachim


Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists

1999-07-23 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists
Date: Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 12:43:37AM +

In reply to:Lee Elliott

Quoting Lee Elliott([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On 22-Jul-99, you wrote:
> 
> >> An observation from this Newbie may be related:  
> 
> Sorry to have peeved you, I do this deliberately so that paragraphs format OK 
> regardless of window size (I'm only able to check this on YAM & Outlook) - 
> for me, reading:
> 
Lee  
  I notice that the YAM editor does some other odd things.  See above
the "On 22-Jul-99, you wrote:"  Most mail programs show who the "you"
was.  I don't see that in your mail.  See how mutt says who I am replying
to.  That along with the loong lines is different, to say the least.

  Well if YAM is all you have
  
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smbfs vis ncpfs

1999-07-23 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello,

because I couldn't solve my ncpfs-problem to let users mount
their Novell-drives at request themselves via an /etc/fstab-entry
I wonder if this is possible with smbfs.  Did I understand it
right that it is possible with smbfs to mount Novell and
Win drives.  I didn't used Samba yet and I'm very confused
about the readmes of smbfs about new smbmount and old smbmount
and what I have to use now.

If this is of interest:  I run an up to date potato system with
kernel 2.2.10.  So the first question is if I should install
the smbfs or smbfsx package.

Kind regards

Andreas.


Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists

1999-07-23 Thread Mark Wagnon
Mark Brown wrote:
> 
> Don't do that!  The standard line length is 80 columns, and all sane
> mail clients can display that without problems.  Most Unix mail clients
> do *not* do word wrapping in either display mode (spacing may be

To check that I'm not unknowingly sending long lines, how does
this look? Messed up threads and jacked quotes *are* irritating.
I hope I'm not one of the culprits.

late
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Re: Dselect 'project'(RE: the dselect debate)

1999-07-23 Thread Peter Makholm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> read 'Why so much hate?' posted some days ago in this mailing - list.
> we could put in contact each-other by this mailing-lists for an initial 
> project about Dselect.

Try have a look at apt-find and see if that is better and probally
make sugestions for improving that frontend to the packaging system.


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dselect or apt installation profiles?

1999-07-23 Thread Ralf Mueller
Hello,

there are preselections for the dselect programm in which several
packages are selected. 

Where are this profiles and how can I manipulate them that I can define
my own 'preselections' beacause I whant to install identical debians on
several machines and don't want to run the dselect-procedure every time.

thank you very much

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Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists

1999-07-23 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 12:43:37AM +, Lee Elliott wrote:

> Sorry to have peeved you, I do this deliberately so that paragraphs format OK 
> regardless of window size (I'm only able to check this on YAM & Outlook) - 
> for me, reading:

Don't do that!  The standard line length is 80 columns, and all sane
mail clients can display that without problems.  Most Unix mail clients
do *not* do word wrapping in either display mode (spacing may be
signifigant) or when editing replies (there's no way to tell if you
really did intend to write a 1000 column line or if you just didn't put
in any line breaks, making line-mode operations useless when editing
unless the message is re-formatted and requoted).  

This makes your messages very hard to read (especially if the window is 
actually wider than 80 columns - 80 columns is actually a pretty good line
length for displaying block text), and means that when people reply to you
your message will be improperly quoted (one mark at the start of the
paragraph) and often won't have context snipped properly.

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Re: Buddha's Dselect' way

1999-07-23 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 08:02:57PM -0400, Buddha Buck wrote:

>   Wichert Akkerman and Ben Collins (et alia) have announced a design 
> and technical specification fo DPKGv2, which will presumably replace 
> dpkg and dselect.

The intent is to replace dpkg only.  As you said, there are already
other dselect replacements in the works.

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Slink - kernel compiling problem (2.0.36)

1999-07-23 Thread Tadeusz Bak

Hi,
I've just tried to compile a new kernel in my Debian slink (upgraded from
hamm). The command 'make-kpkg kernel_image' finished with the following
message:

dpkg-gencontrol -pkernel-image-2.0.36 -Pdebian/tmp-image/
dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image-2.0.36 not in control info
make: *** [stamp-image] Error 29

After checking it turned out that I haven't the package
kernel-image-2.0.36 installed, instead I have kernel-image-2.0.36-i686
(the kernel I compiled some time ago under hamm). Does someone has a
suggestion what should I do now?
Thanks!

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Re: kernel panic while mounting root fs

1999-07-23 Thread Andrei Ivanov
> Have you tried simply running lilo?  and/or rdeving the 2.2.10 kernel to 
> whatever it
> should point to?  Apologies if you've already done all this.
> 
> -Aaron Solochek
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yep, I ran lilo (I even recompiled the 2.2.10 kernel and created the boot
disk, still it panics when booting off the disk).
rdev seems to be pointing to the correct device.
Andrew


Re: shutdown -h now : don't power off

1999-07-23 Thread Halis Osman Erkan
1) you must have APM (advanced power management) support in kernel.
2) on the fly ; before poweroff / halt -p there must be the deamon apm
working. To test just write 
# ps aux |grep apm
if these are ok .
it will poweroff

Halis Osman ERKAN


On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 egm2@jps.net wrote:

> On 22 Jul, Khalid EZZARAOUI wrote:
>   |  Hi,
>   |  
>   |  I have :
>   |   Kernel2.2.10-1 + potato + ATX_box
>   |  All packages are the last.
>   |  
>   |  When i do a :
>   |  shutdown -h now
>   |  or
>   |  halt
>   |  my system is rebooted, but not power off.
>   |  
>   |  Wheras I set this option in the kernel.
>   |  
>   |  do someone have the same probleme are the solution ?
>   |  
>   |  Thanks.
>   |  
>   |  
> 
> Does it actually reboot completely, or does it just go into the halted
> state, but not poweroff.  The latter can be taken care of by
> recompiling the kernel with APM support.
> -- 
> 
> Eric G. Miller
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> 
> 
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Re: kernel panic while mounting root fs

1999-07-23 Thread Aaron Solochek
Have you tried simply running lilo?  and/or rdeving the 2.2.10 kernel to 
whatever it
should point to?  Apologies if you've already done all this.

-Aaron Solochek
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Andrei Ivanov wrote:

> I just had to replace a motherboard in my Linux box (floppy controller
> went bad) and now, for some reason, when I'm trying to boot my 2.2.10
> kernel, I get kernel panic while mounting root fs.
> I can't reproduce the exact message right now, but it seems that while
> booting it's doing a normal partition check and fails then.
> However, I can boot my 2.0.36 kernel off the boot disk without a single
> problem (yet, I might get some headaches because I can not recompile the
> 2.0.36 kernel since I switched to 2.2.10)
> Any idea why 2.2.10 panics and 2.0.36 boots?
>
> TIA,
>  Andrew
>
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Re: kernel panic while mounting root fs (fwd)

1999-07-23 Thread Andrei Ivanov

> In that case, it looks like a kernel bug in 2.2.* series. What did 
> /var/log/kern.log say?? Can you send us the error msg when it is trying 
> to mount the harddisk?? use dmesg > error.log

There is no error message through dmesg > error.log because kernel panic
occurs while trying to mount the root fs, before all other partitions are
mounted, and is fixable only with a reboot.
However, I wrote the message down, and it appears that the partition check
that is ran by 2.2.10 kernel is wrong.

Partition check:
hda: hda1
hdb: hdb1  hdb2  hdb3  <> hdb4
hdc: hdc1 hdc2 

[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12, FAT 16, check=n, conv=b, uid=0, gid=0,umask=022]
[me=0x1b, cs=6649, #f=221 , fs=23683, fl=1714243, ds=379592282, de=37899,
data=37959, se=38384, tf=-570602308, ls=56158, rc=0,fc=4294967295]

Transaction block size = 512


[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12, FAT 16, check=n, conv=b, uid=0, gid=0,umask=022]
[me=0x1b, cs=6649, #f=221 , fs=23683, fl=1714243, ds=379592282, de=37899,
data=37959, se=38384, tf=-570602308, ls=56158, rc=0,fc=4294967295]

Transaction block size = 512

Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 03:42


Now , here is the partition check that is dmesg'ed while 2.0.36 is
booting:


Partition check:
hda: hda1
hdb: hdb1  hdb2  hdb3   hdb4
hdc: hdc1 hdc2 


Obviosly one of the partitions is not found. Any idea why?
Andrew

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Re: kernel panic while mounting root fs

1999-07-23 Thread Andrei Ivanov
> 
> just a guess... maybe you have pluged your harddisk into a different slot. it 
> might have changed its name from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hdc1
> 
> 
> Have you tried to use the motherboard bios to re-detect all your harddisk?? 
> Have you tried to mount the linux root fs when you booted with 
> the rescure disk??

I'm writing this email from Linux right now. It boots perfectly in 2.0.36
kernel mode, but refuses to boot in 2.2.10 mode. I can live with 2.0.36,
but I'm just curious why I can't get back into 2.2.10
Andrew

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Re: kernel panic while mounting root fs

1999-07-23 Thread Shao Zhang
just a guess... maybe you have pluged your harddisk into a different slot. it 
might have changed its name from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hdc1


Have you tried to use the motherboard bios to re-detect all your harddisk?? 
Have you tried to mount the linux root fs when you booted with 
the rescure disk??

On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 12:51:33AM -0500, Andrei Ivanov wrote:
> I just had to replace a motherboard in my Linux box (floppy controller
> went bad) and now, for some reason, when I'm trying to boot my 2.2.10
> kernel, I get kernel panic while mounting root fs.
> I can't reproduce the exact message right now, but it seems that while
> booting it's doing a normal partition check and fails then.
> However, I can boot my 2.0.36 kernel off the boot disk without a single
> problem (yet, I might get some headaches because I can not recompile the
> 2.0.36 kernel since I switched to 2.2.10)
> Any idea why 2.2.10 panics and 2.0.36 boots? 
> 
> TIA,
>  Andrew
> 
> 
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kernel panic while mounting root fs

1999-07-23 Thread Andrei Ivanov
I just had to replace a motherboard in my Linux box (floppy controller
went bad) and now, for some reason, when I'm trying to boot my 2.2.10
kernel, I get kernel panic while mounting root fs.
I can't reproduce the exact message right now, but it seems that while
booting it's doing a normal partition check and fails then.
However, I can boot my 2.0.36 kernel off the boot disk without a single
problem (yet, I might get some headaches because I can not recompile the
2.0.36 kernel since I switched to 2.2.10)
Any idea why 2.2.10 panics and 2.0.36 boots? 

TIA,
 Andrew


Re: ssltelnet problem

1999-07-23 Thread Brad
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Dieter J?ger wrote:

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> 
> On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Konstantin Kivi wrote:
> >Hello All
> >
> >I have problem with ssltelnet that I tried to install recently.
> >
> >first I tried to install binary package from non-us.debian.org. I tried
> >both stable and unstable
> >ssltelnet crashed if I used -z ssl which I believe provides encryption
> 
> On my box ssltelnet with <-z ssl> also crashes. But using ssl seems
> the default behaviour off ssltelnet, so simple  switches
> on encryption with an ssl telnet daemon. You can use daemon option -z
> secure to enforce encryption

i believe that -z sll isn't supposed to work with telnetd-ssl (the daemon
package pulled in by ssltelnet). -z ssl is intended for when you talk to a
server that begins speaking ssl right away, for example an https server.
The telnetd, on the other hand, accepts connections as any normal telnetd
in order to maintain compatibility; it negotiates the ssl connection
later. So if your telnet program goes in speaking ssl, telnetd can't
understand it.

The fix: use -z secure on the telnet client instead of -z ssl if you want
to force a secure connection. Or, use -z ssl on the server as well as the
client (and note that non-ssl telnet clients won't be able to connect to
your telnetd).


default font for Xaw - Applications

1999-07-23 Thread Bernhard Rieder
Since I installed Xfsft all the text-widgets of Xaw-applications are
nearly unreadable (Xaw uses a tiny awful font). Where can I set the
default font for _all_ applications ?

Bernhard

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Re: PIM's

1999-07-23 Thread virtanen
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Brian Schramm wrote:

> Ok.  maybe this is asking for a lot but I like to use my equipment until it no
> longer runs!  I run Debian Linux for all my machines and use the KDE desktop
> system for my address book and schedualer.  My problem is I want to use my
> portable for this type of setup too.  But it is an older unit that X will 
> never
> run on.  

You probably know about a realy good PIM called INFOSELECT? It is for dos
of course, but I've used that with dosemu on a floppy. 

I used to do earlier *everything* with IS, before I switched to debian. If
anybody could do IS for debian, it would be really nice.  

hv


Re: x windows problem

1999-07-23 Thread Dieter Jäger
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On Tue, 06 Jul 1999, Alfalfa Sprout wrote:
>Hey.  I think I setup the mouse as the wrong type in xf86config (I wanted
>to use XF86Setup, but when I try to go into that, all I get is a scrambled
>screen).  

When XF86Setup finds an old XF86Config file, don't use it. To my experience
then it works fine.

Greetings

DJ
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Re: STABLE graphical FTP clients?

1999-07-23 Thread Dieter Jäger
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On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Bakosi Jozsef wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Bryan Scaringe wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to get an FTP client for Linux that is graphical, and
>> supports bookmarks.  Something like gFTP or IglooFTP.
>> 

Try WXftp GTK+ by Alexander Yukhimets. It is only 0.4, but it
works on my box.

Greeteings

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Re: ssltelnet problem

1999-07-23 Thread Dieter Jäger
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On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Konstantin Kivi wrote:
>Hello All
>
>I have problem with ssltelnet
>that I tried to install recently.
>
>first I tried to install binary package
>from non-us.debian.org. I tried both 
>stable and unstable
>ssltelnet crashed 
>if I used -z ssl which I believe provides encryption
>

Hi Konstantin,

On my box ssltelnet with <-z ssl> also crashes. But using ssl seems the default
behaviour off ssltelnet, so simple  switches on encryption with an
ssl telnet daemon. You can use daemon option -z secure to enforce encryption

Greeting

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Re: A problem:SIOCADDRT :Invalid argument

1999-07-23 Thread Brad
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Paul Miller wrote:

> solar wrote:
> >   default: Host name lookup failure   (problem :()
> 
> Are you connected to the Internet in any way? If so, do you have a
> nameserver supplied in /etc/resolve.conf?

One way to avoid this error is to add a line in /etc/hosts for your
hostname, pointing to 0.0.0.0 or 127.0.0.1 or your static IP address if
any. Some parts of the system depend on knowing how to contact itself via
the network, even if that network is only the 1 machine.

For example:
  0.0.0.0   foobar.nowhere.com  foobar


Re: Installation suggestion: recommend recompiling kernel

1999-07-23 Thread Brad
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Stuart Ballard wrote:

> I was just thinking about the fact that the answer to many questions
> that I see on the list (mostly "how do I get sound?") is "recompile your
> kernel". Also the fact that recompiling the kernel is pretty much
> recommended in any situation.

In some cases (sound!) it's necessary since Debian doesn't include sound
modules in the packaged kernels (probably to save space, a good idea). In
some other cases, people say the kernel needs to be recompiled because the
poster didn't give enough information so that we know the particular
feature is available or not (not even good reports of the error messages).

And it's always nice to have a fully tweaked kernel without all the cruft
that makes the packaged ones work on a wide array of hardware. (:

> It occurred to me that perhaps, after the rest of the installation is
> finished, it might be possible to ask "Recompiling your kernel is
> required to enable sound and is recommended in any case in order to tune
> the performance of your machine. Do you wish to configure and recompile
> your kernel now?" [default yes].
> "What version of the kernel would you like to install? [list of
> available kernel-source versions]"
>
> Then, after [downloading and] installing kernel-source, you would be
> dropped into a restricted version of "make menuconfig" 

The only problem with this is that you'd have to autodetect all their
hardware to give an easy-to-understand option like "Sound Support".

Otherwise, there's not a whole lot you could take out of the menus because
it's important in many cases to know that this option is only for the
F00 chipset while that is for the F01 so you can select the options that
match your hardware.

> I say restricted because many of the options are confusing to a newbie
> ("if you enable this option and type mknod bananana, you will get a
> device /dev/ook. You can use ioctl on this file with the SIOCHEDGEHOG
> parameter to move your computer through lspace and murder your
> grandfather") and could be hidden behind an "advanced" tab somewhere.

It's helpful when it says in the help "If you're unsure, say N." Or
"You'll probably want this. Say Y."

> Even better, look at the modules that were enabled when the user did
> their modconf and take all the other modules out of the kernel by
> default. Also, some of the modules could be defaulted to compiled in,
> when there are no parameters needed.

Then you have to hope that they got their modconf right, didn't insert
things they don't have and did insert everything they do (because if you
say it's done for them, they probably won't check).

> The installation process could then run an appropriate make-kpkg and
> dpkg command for you.
> 
> Of course, this whole sequence should be available again later by
> running an appropriate command.
> 
> Thoughts?

Maybe instead of throwing them into it, send them to some FAQs about why
recompiling is good, what you need to know before you start (i.e. which
hardware), some broad recommendations, and so on. Don't forget the
kernel-package instructions. Stern warnings to make boot disks,
'vmlinuz.old' entries in lilo.conf, and anything else that cal let you
boot if you screw everything up.



Just my small-amount-of-change-that-can't-even-buy-penny-candy-anymore. ;)


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