Xauthority?

1999-08-06 Thread erasmo perez
hallo guys!

where can i specify the name of the server that is authorized to conect
to my server?

i mean, if i try tu run a graphic application of another server in my
debian macine, i receive a message:

Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to server

where/how can I authorize this?

thanks a lot guys


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Re: Java 'n' Netscape

1999-08-06 Thread Michael Merten
On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 11:25:35AM -0400, Chris Mayes wrote:
> Java directory?  Also, so that I don't have to ask such questions in the 
> future, is there a way to search the dpkg or apt database for a specific
> file?

Check out 'dpkg -S ' and 'apt-cache search '.

Mike

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Re: mirroring a part of the archive

1999-08-06 Thread Michael Merten
On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 12:38:54AM +0200, Sami Dalouche wrote:
> I want to grab the entire debian archive except the arch which are not
> i386.
> 
> So, I want to take the binary-i386, binary-all, the source and all the
> unecessary stuff (readmes, tools...)
> 
> What's the best way to do that ?

Definitely, check out rsync.  (If you grab binary-i386 using
rsync's -L flag, you won't need binary-all)

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TNT2 Chipset

1999-08-06 Thread Chris Carlson

Anyone having luck running a TNT2?

I got the drivers, *glibc-i386-dyn.tar.gz from nvidia's sight, ran the
install script w/o x running, and copied over the libGL.so.1.0 ontop of
the libMesaGL.so.3.0.  I then ran ldconfig, and rebooted.

When I try to run the GL screensavers from xscreensaver, the video is
flashing black, and then displays the image, and repeats very fast.

Anyone with this problem?  Anyone with luck using the TNT2?

Thanks
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Re: LILO on hdc (to be hda)

1999-08-06 Thread William T Wilson
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Keith001 wrote:

> Can those scripts get some input from the keyboard at that time?

Probably.  You can just use sulogin to get a quick root-shell to make any
needed tweaks.  The advantage to this is that you can use vi or something
to make changes, instead of having to rely on predeterined configurations.
You could also throw together a quick menu program in C or something and
just run that.

You could also use dmesg to see what drives the system has detected at
boot.  This will require you to parse dmesg with sed (best to not use perl
at this early stage, in case it's not mounted yet) but, it will allow the
boot to happen without user intervention.

> - I'm not too fond of one of my two drives heating the box, wasting
> power and making noise when I know I won't be using it for the next
> ten hours (or ten days) - and my first disk is used for windows stuff,
> so one day may come when I will only be using it occasionally (of
> course, I can then put it as hdb & boot it from lilo with remapping,
> or directly from the bios)

The best way to do this is to unmount all the filesystems on the unwanted
drive (which they would be anyway) and spin it down with hdparm -Y or
hdparm -y.  It is, on the whole, much better than pulling on the plugs:

You can leave your case on (improves cooling) :}
You don't risk damaging the connectors
It's easier

> - I may sometimes need to plug my drive on another computer

Reasonable; but then your fstab won't work anyway. :}

> - anyway the main reason is that I came to Linux because I wanted to
> be able to fine tune & customize my system, so I wanted to KNOW how to
> do this even if I have other maybe more practical or realistic ways to
> solve my problem...

:}

That's the best reason right there :}


Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-06 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  6 Aug, Samuel R. Scarano wrote about "Re: backspace character does not 
exists in xterm,"
> [snip]
>>> leaving me with a completely unusable system.  Fortunately I'm just
>>> using this system to learn with so I didn't mind having to completely
>>> re-install from scratch to get around this.  A rather drastic solution
>>> though.
> [snip]
>> Ouch!!  How do you boot into linux?  There are several ways to avoid
>> a reinstall. One way to fix this is to boot into single user mode(which
> 
> That, too, is overkill. Just press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to a virtual
> console where getty is waiting to log you in.
> 

Read his post again.  He said he couldn't find the correct keys with the
keymap all out of wack to switch to a console.

*- On  6 Aug, Lee Elliott wrote about "Re: backspace character does not exists 
in xterm,"
> the keyboard.  I couldn't find the right combination to get to a
> console and as xdm was installed, the system went straight into X


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Re: LILO on hdc (to be hda)

1999-08-06 Thread Keith001
>> BTW, does anyone have an idea about how to use different fstab at
>> bootup - by using a boot parameter for instance? The idea is to be
>
>Not possible.  /etc/fstab is read by mount, which is called by the startup
>scripts.  
>You can, of course, modify the scripts to shuffle the fstab file before it
>mounts any partitions.

Can those scripts get some input from the keyboard at that time?

>Why in the world would your hard drives change their drive assignments on
>a regular basis?

Well, a few reasons:
- I'm not too fond of one of my two drives heating the box, wasting power and 
making noise when I know I won't be using it for the next ten hours (or ten 
days) - and my first disk is used for windows stuff, so one day may come when I 
will only be using it occasionally (of course, I can then put it as hdb & boot 
it from lilo with remapping, or directly from the bios)
- I may sometimes need to plug my drive on another computer
- when I first installed my second drive, I didn't took care of the position of 
the video card which appeared to be too close to the two heavily used drives (I 
was transfering lots of stuff from the old disk to the new), and began working 
erratically, which scared me since my motherboard had died a few weeks 
before... so I guess I'm a little over-sensitive to the heat problem, and extra 
ventilation is too noisy for me - so I just thought I could unplug the drive 
I'm not using.
- anyway the main reason is that I came to Linux because I wanted to be able to 
fine tune & customize my system, so I wanted to KNOW how to do this even if I 
have other maybe more practical or realistic ways to solve my problem...

Thanx for the info anyway,

Have a nice weekend,
Keith


Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-06 Thread Samuel R. Scarano
[snip]
>> leaving me with a completely unusable system.  Fortunately I'm just
>> using this system to learn with so I didn't mind having to completely
>> re-install from scratch to get around this.  A rather drastic solution
>> though.
[snip]
> Ouch!!  How do you boot into linux?  There are several ways to avoid
> a reinstall. One way to fix this is to boot into single user mode(which

That, too, is overkill. Just press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to a virtual
console where getty is waiting to log you in.

By default, you have 6 vc's, which you can reach by pressing alt-F1
through alt-F6 (use ctrl-alt in X), and X starts at vc 7. (And yes, you
can have more than one X session). I think you get 64 vc's as a Linux
kernel default; for more, you must recompile the kernel.

I think Debian's installation scripts mention something about this when
you install. If they don't, they should.


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1999-08-06 Thread bfox
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Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-06 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  6 Aug, Lee Elliott wrote about "Re: backspace character does not exists 
in xterm,"
> Hello J.H.M.,
> 
> On 02-Aug-99, you wrote:
> 
> JD\> On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 15:39:17 -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
> JD\>> On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
> JD\> 
> JD\> The consistent keyboard behaviour implementation for X relies on
> JD\> the use of the X Keyboard Extension. Make sure you don't have a
> JD\> "XkbDisable" in /etc/X11/XF86Config.
> JD\> 
> JD\> HTH,
> JD\> Ray
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I tried commenting this entry out of my XF86Config and on reloading, the
> keyboard mapping was unusable.  I eventually found the return key was
> now my R-alt key, and the two lower alpha rows on the keyboard were
> mapped six keys to the left, amongst the random mappings on the rest of
> the keyboard.  I couldn't find the right combination to get to a
> console and as xdm was installed, the system went straight into X
> leaving me with a completely unusable system.  Fortunately I'm just
> using this system to learn with so I didn't mind having to completely
> re-install from scratch to get around this.  A rather drastic solution
> though.
> 
> Any hints or tips on what should be done before enabling the X Keyboard
> Extension?
> 

Ouch!!  How do you boot into linux?  There are several ways to avoid
a reinstall. One way to fix this is to boot into single user mode(which
won't start anything up) and then edit the config file.  If you use
lilo to boot you can get the lilo prompt and enter your label for linux
followed my 'single', i.e.

LILO: linux single

If you use loadlin just add single to the loadlin command line. 
Another option is to boot with the Debian rescue disk, hit enter at the
boot: prompt and wait for the color selection dialog to come up.  Then
hit alt-f2 and enter.  Now mount your linux partition that has the
config file on it and edit it with ae editor that is on the rescue
floppy.  

There is certainly no need to reinstall the os for a broken config file.

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Re: Dial in server

1999-08-06 Thread Marc Mongeon
Dave:

mgetty, pppd, and a kernel compiled with IP forwarding turned on.

mgetty with pppd configured for PAP authentication will handle the
Windows PPP peer.

Marc

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>>> David Warnock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/06 10:55 AM >>>
Hi,

We want to setup a machine on our lan so I can dial in from home [...]

My wife will also want to be able to connect from home but she will be
using Windows 98.  [...]
 
Which packages should I start looking at installing on the dial in
server?

Thanks

Dave

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[Solved] Re: Anyone using an S3 Trio3D/2X graphic card ?

1999-08-06 Thread Nuno Emanuel F. Carvalho
Leszek Gerwatowski wrote:

> And as always you have option of framebuffer device - wit this Xserver S3
> Trio3D works for sure but without full hardware acceleration. Just take a
> look at:
>
> http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9903/msg00324.html
>
> and answers for this question. One fragment of one of replies:

 Yup! :-)) Using framebuffer device I'm able to get 1024x786x16 on X (even on 
console:
logo boot;) )

 Thanks.

 Regards,
Nuno Carvalho






SCSI Emulation

1999-08-06 Thread Quesada, Juan
I need help in configuring SCSI Emulation under kernel 2.2.5
I've turned on SCSI Emulation option, I cannot see it in /proc/devices


Saludos/Regards
Juan Ignacio Quesada
Unicenter TNG Support
Computer Associates de Argentina
Tel: +54 11 4317-1500 - Fax: +54 11 4317-1515
Av. Alicia M. de Justo 400 2º piso Of. 203 Buenos Aires - Argentina (1107)


Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-06 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello J.H.M.,

On 02-Aug-99, you wrote:

JD\> On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 15:39:17 -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
JD\>> On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
JD\> 
JD\> The consistent keyboard behaviour implementation for X relies on
JD\> the use of the X Keyboard Extension. Make sure you don't have a
JD\> "XkbDisable" in /etc/X11/XF86Config.
JD\> 
JD\> HTH,
JD\> Ray

Hi,

I tried commenting this entry out of my XF86Config and on reloading, the
keyboard mapping was unusable.  I eventually found the return key was
now my R-alt key, and the two lower alpha rows on the keyboard were
mapped six keys to the left, amongst the random mappings on the rest of
the keyboard.  I couldn't find the right combination to get to a
console and as xdm was installed, the system went straight into X
leaving me with a completely unusable system.  Fortunately I'm just
using this system to learn with so I didn't mind having to completely
re-install from scratch to get around this.  A rather drastic solution
though.

Any hints or tips on what should be done before enabling the X Keyboard
Extension?

Regards,

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Re: backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-06 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello J.H.M.,

On 02-Aug-99, you wrote:

JD\> On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 15:39:17 -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
JD\>> On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
JD\> 
JD\> The consistent keyboard behaviour implementation for X relies on
JD\> the use of the X Keyboard Extension. Make sure you don't have a
JD\> "XkbDisable" in /etc/X11/XF86Config.
JD\> 
JD\> HTH,
JD\> Ray

Hi,

I tried commenting this entry out of my XF86Config and on reloading, the
keyboard mapping was unusable.  I eventually found the return key was
now my R-alt key, and the two lower alpha rows on the keyboard were
mapped six keys to the left, amongst the random mappings on the rest of
the keyboard.  I couldn't find the right combination to get to a
console and as xdm was installed, the system went straight into X
leaving me with a completely unusable system.  Fortunately I'm just
using this system to learn with so I didn't mind having to completely
re-install from scratch to get around this.  A rather drastic solution
though.

Any hints or tips on what should be done before enabling the X Keyboard
Extension?

Regards,

LeeE
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Re: Dial in server

1999-08-06 Thread Martin Bialasinski

* "David" == David Warnock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

David> Which packages should I start looking at installing on the dial
David> in server?

mgetty if you use modems, isdn does handle this internally (isdnctrl setting).

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Fetchmail and Exim - CRACKED IT!!

1999-08-06 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  6 Aug, Mark Wagnon wrote about "Re: Fetchmail and Exim - CRACKED IT!!"

> send a message, I couldn't. I can't remember the exact error message (and
> I'm not logged into my Debian box at the moment), but I think it may have
> been related to not being able to relay the message. Would adding 127.0.0.1
> to my exim.conf file fix that? I didn't elect to relay mail when setting up

Most likely, yes. Another option is to set the local_domains option to
include 'localhost' as well as the name you give your machine. 
relay_domains is for hosts that it thinks aren't local.  If
local_domains is not set at all it takes on the value of 
qualify_recipient which may not be 'localhost' in all cases. If
local_domains is set to empty then no host is considered local.


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Perl without DB and NDBM

1999-08-06 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi, (2nd try)

I'm needing a perl binary w/o -ldb and -lndbm in order to run
Sybperl. Should be possible to use the deb sources to do this? I would
like to have a perl.deb and not a /usr/local/bin/perl.
If yes, how?
And, if I do this, are there some essential programs that could
break, that is, depends on DB and NDBM built in Perl?
Thanks!

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21


Re: dselect dependencies

1999-08-06 Thread Paul Nesbit


Mirek Kwasniak wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 01:31:42AM -0400, Paul Nesbit wrote:
>
> >...
> >  I've tried continuing anyways but I get this message:
> > "Sorry, but the following packages are broken - this
> > means they have unmet dependencies
> > libc6-dev: depends libc6 (libc6 IS installed!)
> > perl: depends: perl-base (perl-base IS installed!)"
> >
>
>
> Maybe versions of libc6 and libc6-dev are conficting. Go to dselect conflict
> window and press capital V twice. You see similiar to example attached
> below.

Yes, it turns out that my current libc6 is version 2.0.7.19981211-6,
yet libc6-dev depends on 2.0.7.19981211-1.  Does this sound normal?
Should I actually change my libc6 package, or is there another libc6-dev
version I should try installing?  I've been struggling with
this thing for some time now, help is really appreciated.

Please cc any possible solutions to me, Thanks,
Paul

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Re: Fetchmail and Exim - CRACKED IT!!

1999-08-06 Thread Mark Wagnon
George,

I haven't been following this thread too closely, but I too decided to set
up mail using the LG tutorial. My goal was to be able to use Netscape Mail
to read and compose messages. All I did (after completing the tutorial) was
make my local machine my smtp and pop3 server. Netscape would pull mail from
/var/spool/mail.mwagnon successfully...I was stoked. But when I tried to
send a message, I couldn't. I can't remember the exact error message (and
I'm not logged into my Debian box at the moment), but I think it may have
been related to not being able to relay the message. Would adding 127.0.0.1
to my exim.conf file fix that? I didn't elect to relay mail when setting up
exim because I don't have a network at the moment (my other system PS died
and I haven't gotten around to replacing it :) ). This is exciting.


tia

Mark Wagnon
Chula Vista, CA
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- Original Message -
From: George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Phillip Deackes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: Fetchmail and Exim - CRACKED IT!!


> >
> > smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 300
> > # >> Option rewritten by convert4r3
> > host_reject = "! 192.168.1.0/24 : \
> >! 194.217.242.0/24 : \
> >*"
> >
> > No idea why it is there, but I remmed it out and now exim works fine
>
> Ok, that is just to allow connections from 192.168.1.0/24 and
> 194.217.242.0/24 but to refuse all others. Trouble is that ! 127.0.0.1 was
> not listed so since it is not in 192.168.1.0/24 or 194.217.242.0/24, it
> was refused connectivity.


Re: difference between /usr/bin and /usr/X11R6/bin

1999-08-06 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  5 Aug, Sami Dalouche wrote about "difference between /usr/bin and 
/usr/X11R6/bin"
> I don't understand the difference between these 2 directories.
> 
> Thinking logicaly, I could say that /usr/X11R6/bin is for the
> executables that need X and /usr/bin is for the others executables running
> under the console.
> But there are a lot of X programs under /usr/bin :
> ex. :

This is a running debate that has been popping up on debian-devel
and debian-policy.  Try searching the -devel and -policy mail archives
for X11R6 and you should get a good start.

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can't mount CR-563 cdrom

1999-08-06 Thread damiaan

hi,

when i try to install the sbpcd-module in the installation program i get
following message:

eval:1:syntax error: eof in backquote substitution
script:cd /dev && rm -f cdrom && ln -s sbpcd0 cdrom
eval:1:syntax error: eof in backquote substitution
installation succeeded

i have no idea what this means, but the installation succeeded sounds
comforting. when i continue with the installation i'm asked to insert
the debian
cdrom i get a 'could not mount the cdrom' message. changing the module
arguments doesn't change anything. what should i do? I tried to install
with floppies, but i still can't mount the drive:when i type 'mount
/dev/cdrom /cdrom' i get ' specal devive /dev/cdrom does not exist'

some other questions: when i don't give any module arguments it's
installed with sbpcd=0x230,1, is this a default setting or is it the
result of a search for the right settings?

i contacted the writer of the module but he says the problem is debian
specific

thanks,

damiaan




Re: stop bringing up X window when Linux booting

1999-08-06 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  6 Aug, Matt Kopishke wrote about "Re: stop bringing up  X window when 
Linux booting"
> It's really pretty simple,
>  
> just coment out the 'start-xdm' line in your /etc/X11/config  
>  
> You don't need to remove xdm, and I actuly would not recomend it, who
> knows you might want it someday...
> 

This was true on Debian 2.0 and under.  With Debian 2.1 the setup for
xdm changed drastically and xdm was put in its own package. Thus it
assumes that if you have xdm installed you want it started, there is no
option to set to disable it at boot up. .  See
/usr/doc/xdm/README.Debian on a 2.1 or greater system.

>From above file:

Upgraders from Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 or earlier should be aware that the
/etc/X11/config file is no longer used; its xdm-specific options are now in
/etc/X11/xdm/xdm.options.

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Re: X window resolution extremely low

1999-08-06 Thread Andrei Ivanov
> hello,
> 
> I installed slink on my workstation here @ work, and I'm having problems
> with the resolution of X...it's horribly low.  I'd say 300x240.  I've run
> xf86setup multiple times (with different setups) to no avail.  I think
> that hte problem may lie in the fact that it's a non-standard vid card,
> that's embedded on the MB.  the motherboard is a SiS Slot1/Socket 370
> model, and the vid card unit is a SiS620 (if I'm correct)...with, what I
> believe is 8MB RAM (anyway for me to check this?)
> 
> I'd like to get it up to at least 8x6 @ 32bit, if not 1024x768 (16 or
> 32bit would be fine)
> 
> any help would be appreciated!
> -lev

Have you tried switching through resolutions, maybe it just starts up on
the lowest default. 
Andrew



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Re: stop bringing up X window when Linux booting

1999-08-06 Thread Nathan Duehr
You probably have the XDM package installed, which defaults your system to
starting an X server and running XDM for you.

On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Daniel Yang wrote:

> When my Linux boots, it  starts X window automatically. I don't know how to 
> stop it. 
> Thanks
> Daniel
> 

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Re: Port Scanning

1999-08-06 Thread Nathan Duehr
Depends on where you live.  Usually yes.  In Colorado, USA it's a
misdemeanor crime.

On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Stephan Weaver wrote:

> I was just wondering if portscanning was illegal?
> 
> Stephan Weaver
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Re: stop bringing up X window when Linux booting

1999-08-06 Thread David Wright
Quoting Matt Kopishke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> It's really pretty simple,
>  
> just coment out the 'start-xdm' line in your /etc/X11/config  

I think you may not be running slink, but hamm or previous.
That file disappeared in the Great X Reorganisation. (Sorry, -zation.)

> You don't need to remove xdm, and I actuly would not recomend it, who
> knows you might want it someday...

Cheers,

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RE: Java 'n' Netscape

1999-08-06 Thread Wim Kerkhoff
Which communicator did you install? 

I got got
ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/english/4.61/unix/supported/linux20_l
ibc5/complete_install/communicator-v461-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar.gz, and
it properly created all the java stuff for me.

Move it to /tmp/communicator-v461-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0-glibc2.tar.gz,
and install it using 'apt-get install netscape4' to wherever you want.

To find a specific file, try the dpkg bot on #debian on irc.debian.org.  do a
'!find java40.jar', for example, and he will tell you :)

On 06-Aug-99 Chris Mayes wrote:
> Hello, all.  Well, after gritting my teeth about the "java40.jar not found" 
> message I see every time I hit a Java-fied website, I decided to investigate.
> Forsooth, there wasn't a java40.jar anywhere on my Debian installation.  It 
> shows up on my (dusty) RH 6.0 dist, but not on the Debian side of the disk.
> 
> Next, I tried to piece together where it would go.  I went to the
> communicator 
> directory, which had a hard link (red means a hard link, right?) back to 
> ../netscape/java.  I went to look there, and there wasn't a java directory at
> all!  Have I forgotten to install something?  What package would make said 
> Java directory?  Also, so that I don't have to ask such questions in the 
> future, is there a way to search the dpkg or apt database for a specific
> file?
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Esound and vmware

1999-08-06 Thread Andy Spiegl
Hi!

I tried to start vmware with the esddsp wrapper, but vmware still
complains that it can't access /dev/dsp.

Did anyone find a solution to this?

Thanks and have a nice weekend!
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SoundCard&Kernel: Problem 2

1999-08-06 Thread Camiel Coenen



 
Subject: SoundCard&Kernel: Problem 
2
I managed to get my SoundCard to work, by loading 
the sound module (with modconf) and configuring the isapnp.conf file. Then 
I rebooted my computer and ,surprisingly, the booting of the modules 
hampered when it tried to load the sound module, so I was stuck in the 
middle of the booting process. I can still boot 
my computer with a floppy, but this is not ideal. How can I (manually) fix 
this  problem ?
 


difference between /usr/bin and /usr/X11R6/bin

1999-08-06 Thread Sami Dalouche
I don't understand the difference between these 2 directories.

Thinking logicaly, I could say that /usr/X11R6/bin is for the
executables that need X and /usr/bin is for the others executables running
under the console.
But there are a lot of X programs under /usr/bin :
ex. :

gnome-*
imlib_config
x*
xbitchx
ghex
...
and there are hundreds of other.


So, I thought that /usr/X11R6/bin is for the executables needed to
run, configure X + the window managers and the other needed stuff to
run X.

But there are 
/usr/bin/X11/gimp
/usr/bin/X11/gaim
/usr/bin/X11/gtkfontsel
/usr/bin/X11/gxedit

which don't correspond to these criteria.

Can anyone delight me ? Thank you.

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mirroring a part of the archive

1999-08-06 Thread Sami Dalouche
I want to grab the entire debian archive except the arch which are not
i386.

So, I want to take the binary-i386, binary-all, the source and all the
unecessary stuff (readmes, tools...)

What's the best way to do that ?

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SoundCard&Kernel: Problem 2

1999-08-06 Thread Camiel Coenen



I managed to get my SoundCard to work, by loading 
the sound module (with modconf) and configuring the isapnp.conf file. Then 
I rebooted my computer and ,surprisingly, the booting of the modules 
hampered when it tried to load the sound module, so I was stuck in the 
middle of the booting process. I can still boot 
my computer with a floppy, but this is not ideal. How can I (manually) fix 
this  problem ?
 


Re: Install problem...

1999-08-06 Thread Thomas
Also, if you have a dos boot disk you can run the install directly from the CD 
without making install floppies by booting into DOS and then running  
[debian_cd:]\install\boot.bat 

- Original Message - 
From: virtanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Umut Ceyhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: debian ; 
Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: Install problem...


> On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Umut Ceyhan wrote:
> 
> > Opsss... 
> > 1. CD :
> > /.disk
> > /boot
> > /dists
> > /doc
> > /install
> > /tools
> > debian
> > Readme.1st
> > README.CD-man...
> > etc.
> 
> 
> OK as far I can see, they are the ones You will need. 
> 
> 
> 1)
> Now in the directory /install you will find for example:
> 
> install.html
> 
> which is a html-file of the installation guide. 
> 
> 
> 2)
> Just read that (quite carefully to decide, which way to the
> installation) and start installing... (You will probably need 
> disks to 'rawrite' your 'resc'- and 'drivers'- disks on, but otherwise I
> thing that You've got the things what You'll need...)
> 
> 3)
> If you don't have any web-browser or some other program to read the 
> install.html -file, you can use the install.txt to read about
> installation. 
> 
> 4)
> Basically the installation- procedure is quite simple, if you happen to
> have suitable hardware. 
> 
> -hv   
> 


Re: WYSE-50

1999-08-06 Thread David Kane-Parry
MRCE wrote:
> Not a very sophisticated question, but does anyone know how
> to stop the beep that comes with every keystroke on the WYSE-50
> dummy terminal?

I guess the not-very-sophisticated answer would be to rip out it's
speaker.

- d.


Re: stop bringing up X window when Linux booting

1999-08-06 Thread Matt Kopishke
It's really pretty simple,
 
just coment out the 'start-xdm' line in your /etc/X11/config  
 
You don't need to remove xdm, and I actuly would not recomend it, who
knows you might want it someday...

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Re: X window resolution extremely low

1999-08-06 Thread Guilherme Soares Zahn
> I installed slink on my workstation here @ work, and I'm having problems
> with the resolution of X...it's horribly low.  I'd say 300x240.(...) the vid 
> card
> unit is a SiS620 (if I'm correct)...with, what I believe is 8MB RAM (anyway
> for me to check this?)

Welll... good and bad news... the support for the SiS620 is now present in the
new XFree86 3.3.4... The bad: The deb's for the new XFree are still under
work, so you won't find them yet in any ¨regular¨ Debian distribution...

As for the vid memory... I've heard that these on-board AGP video cards
share the ¨regular¨ memory with the remaining of the system (well, this is
what I've heard, but I haven't had a board like this im my hands to check
yet).

[]'s

Guilherme Zahn


V toolkit

1999-08-06 Thread Micha Feigin
How is the V toolkit for writing graphical apps?
Is it better to use it to write apps under gnome to maintain portability?
Any other toolkits that are also portable to windows?
Is it also portable to other unix platforms?
Can the code be staticly linked so it will run on platforms not having it
installed?
Thanx
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Dial in server

1999-08-06 Thread David Warnock
Hi,

We want to setup a machine on our lan so I can dial in from home and
gain access to my mail, cvs etc. I will also want to access the internet
in this way (calls from home to office are free, home to internet is
not).

My wife will also want to be able to connect from home but she will be
using Windows 98. She will need to access samba facilities (printer,
network drives) and the internet.

We have a working firewall (running potato) and also a file/app server
(currently slink, will move to potato soon). The firewall has a 64k
permanent link to the internet.

Which packages should I start looking at installing on the dial in
server?

Thanks

Dave

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Re: stop bringing up X window when Linux booting

1999-08-06 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  6 Aug, David Wright wrote about "Re: stop bringing up  X window when 
Linux booting"
> Quoting Brian Servis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>> *- On  6 Aug, Guilherme Soares Zahn wrote about "Re: stop bringing up  X 
>> window when Linux booting"
>> >> dpkg --purge xdm
>> >>
>> >> works for my 2.1 system. Then you must kill -9 pid_for_xdm.
>> > 
>> > Hmmm... I was thinking of a workaround that *may* work fine... what if you 
>> > just remove the
>> > ¨xdm¨ script from the /etc/init.d folder (and the links in the /etc/rc.# 
>> > folders, also)?
>> > This should do the trick *without* the need to completely remove xdm form 
>> > you system (you
>> > may want it back someday) AND without bringing up any problem with broken 
>> > dependencies...
>> > 
>> 
>> Just remove the links in /etc/rc*.d with the correct Debian
>> tools/method of,
>> 
>> update-rc.d xdm remove
>> 
>> If you remove the actuall script you might cause problems when you
>> actually remove the package and it tries to look for the missing script.
> 
> This should not work because update-rc.d remove does nothing
> unless you've already removed the script itself.
> 
> I believe the "Right Way" is just to unset the
> executable permission for /etc/init.d/xdm .
> 
> Cheers,
> 

Oops.  You need to use the -f option to force the removal of the links
when the script is still in place.

update-rc.d -f xdm remove

This is one of the correct ways.

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Re: stop bringing up X window when Linux booting

1999-08-06 Thread David Wright
Quoting Brian Servis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> *- On  6 Aug, Guilherme Soares Zahn wrote about "Re: stop bringing up  X 
> window when Linux booting"
> >> dpkg --purge xdm
> >>
> >> works for my 2.1 system. Then you must kill -9 pid_for_xdm.
> > 
> > Hmmm... I was thinking of a workaround that *may* work fine... what if you 
> > just remove the
> > ¨xdm¨ script from the /etc/init.d folder (and the links in the /etc/rc.# 
> > folders, also)?
> > This should do the trick *without* the need to completely remove xdm form 
> > you system (you
> > may want it back someday) AND without bringing up any problem with broken 
> > dependencies...
> > 
> 
> Just remove the links in /etc/rc*.d with the correct Debian
> tools/method of,
> 
> update-rc.d xdm remove
> 
> If you remove the actuall script you might cause problems when you
> actually remove the package and it tries to look for the missing script.

This should not work because update-rc.d remove does nothing
unless you've already removed the script itself.

I believe the "Right Way" is just to unset the
executable permission for /etc/init.d/xdm .

Cheers,

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X window resolution extremely low

1999-08-06 Thread Lev Lvovsky
hello,

I installed slink on my workstation here @ work, and I'm having problems
with the resolution of X...it's horribly low.  I'd say 300x240.  I've run
xf86setup multiple times (with different setups) to no avail.  I think
that hte problem may lie in the fact that it's a non-standard vid card,
that's embedded on the MB.  the motherboard is a SiS Slot1/Socket 370
model, and the vid card unit is a SiS620 (if I'm correct)...with, what I
believe is 8MB RAM (anyway for me to check this?)

I'd like to get it up to at least 8x6 @ 32bit, if not 1024x768 (16 or
32bit would be fine)

any help would be appreciated!
-lev


Java 'n' Netscape

1999-08-06 Thread Chris Mayes
Hello, all.  Well, after gritting my teeth about the "java40.jar not found" 
message I see every time I hit a Java-fied website, I decided to investigate.  
Forsooth, there wasn't a java40.jar anywhere on my Debian installation.  It 
shows up on my (dusty) RH 6.0 dist, but not on the Debian side of the disk.

Next, I tried to piece together where it would go.  I went to the communicator 
directory, which had a hard link (red means a hard link, right?) back to 
../netscape/java.  I went to look there, and there wasn't a java directory at 
all!  Have I forgotten to install something?  What package would make said 
Java directory?  Also, so that I don't have to ask such questions in the 
future, is there a way to search the dpkg or apt database for a specific file?


TIA,

-Chris


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RE: damn glib

1999-08-06 Thread Allan Neal
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Pollywog wrote:

> 
> On 06-Aug-99 wonko wrote:
> > i installed glib1.2.3 but gtk+ says cannot find glib1.2.3 anyway what do
> > i do?
> 
> Make sure it is really installed:
> 
> $ dpkg -l | grep glib
> 
> Did you install it from source or a deb package?
> 
> --
> Andrew
> 
> 
> -- 
If you are istalling from source, in the gtk source dir do ./configure
--with-glib={dir where glib is located, default=/usr/local/lib/glib}

Allan


Re: Is it safe to upgrade slink to libc-2.1 from potato

1999-08-06 Thread Guilherme Soares Zahn
> Thank you. This is OK for me. BTW, which applications you use, which
> depend on libc20? Is it matlab or what? Mathematica people were wise to
> compile their 3.0 version static.

Well... unfortunately (did I REALLY say that? ;-) it's not a commercial suite, 
but a
freeware group-developed suite called RadWare (created by David Radford, of the 
Oak Ridge
National Laboratory). It is very useful for Nuclear Spectroscopy Analysis, 
specially for
gamaXgama coincidence experiments... Anyway, I've already written Mr. Radford 
to see if
he's already aware of that problem (and if he knows of any worakaround or 
solution)...
unfortunately I'm quite ignorant about both C and Fortran (what is my Pascal 
useful for,
anyway? ;-), so I can't even try to hack the code ¨by hand¨...

[]'s

Guilherme Zahn


Re: Is it safe to upgrade slink to libc-2.1 from potato

1999-08-06 Thread Julian Stoev
Thank you. This is OK for me. BTW, which applications you use, which
depend on libc20? Is it matlab or what? Mathematica people were wise to
compile their 3.0 version static.

--JS

On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Guilherme Soares Zahn wrote:

> > I want to ask if it is safe to upgrade slink's libc-2.0 to potato's
> > libc-2.1. Are there some slink packages dependent specifically on libc2.0,
> > which would not work with libc-2.1?
> 
> Well... I'd say for 99% of the people I know the glibc2.1 worked wonderfully, 
> and
> they're very happy with it... Unfortunately, though, I stand on the other 1%, 
> and I
> must tell you... after a while it gets REALLY hard to do a downgrade in the 
> glibc (as
> everything else in my potato system is now glibc2.1-dependent)... In my 
> personal
> case, the problem was that I HAVE to run some scientific analysis programs 
> that
> simply refuse to run since I installed the glibc2.1 (there's rumors that they 
> have
> eliminated some ¨under-the-roof¨ instructions that shouldn't be used anyway, 
> but
> those programs used)...
> 
> Anyway, bottom line is that, IMHO, if you only use ¨regular¨ Debian programs 
> (the
> ones usually distributed with it or with any other Linux distribution like 
> RedHat,
> Caldera or such) there should be no problem at all...
> 
> []'s
> 
> Guilherme Zahn
> 
> 


Re: stop bringing up X window when Linux booting

1999-08-06 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  6 Aug, Guilherme Soares Zahn wrote about "Re: stop bringing up  X window 
when Linux booting"
>> dpkg --purge xdm
>>
>> works for my 2.1 system. Then you must kill -9 pid_for_xdm.
> 
> Hmmm... I was thinking of a workaround that *may* work fine... what if you 
> just remove the
> ¨xdm¨ script from the /etc/init.d folder (and the links in the /etc/rc.# 
> folders, also)?
> This should do the trick *without* the need to completely remove xdm form you 
> system (you
> may want it back someday) AND without bringing up any problem with broken 
> dependencies...
> 

Just remove the links in /etc/rc*.d with the correct Debian
tools/method of,

update-rc.d xdm remove

If you remove the actuall script you might cause problems when you
actually remove the package and it tries to look for the missing script.

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lp.o and HP 540 Printer

1999-08-06 Thread Dave Dash
I'm using the 2.2.10 kernel with the parport module
running, but I have no clue as to how to get the lp.o
module running so I can print.  Currently I can't do
echo "test" >/dev/lp0 (or lp1 or lp2) because it
results in an error and says those devices don't
exist.

Thanks,
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Re: Is it safe to upgrade slink to libc-2.1 from potato

1999-08-06 Thread Julian Stoev


On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Julian Stoev wrote:
> 
> > > Do you want run 2.2.10 in slink? Or you want other packages from potato,
> > > that aren't related to kernel?
> > > If you want just 2.2.10, go to Debian page and look for Installation
> > > instructions. There are instruction on how to run 2.2.10 on Slink as well
> > > as, links to netbase for 2.2.10 (slink), etc. See Errata Section.
> > > 
> > > PS.: I'm running 2.2.10 on 4 Slink systems without problems.
> > > 
> > 
> > No. I want to be able to compile and install other packages from potato.
> > This is now quite easy with the source option in the new apt-get.
> > 
> 
> Ok. But what I meant is: for the kernel you don't need glibc2.1 Just some
> packages like netbase need to be upgraded.
> 

Thanks you. But I find some newer versions in potato and I would like to
test them too. I upgraded the netbase with netbase compatible with libc20,
so now the basic system is fine. But I want to test some new things. I
don't want full upgrade to potato, because it is not quite stable
sometimes. What I want is to stay with slink and benefit some goods from
potato.;)

--Julian Stoev


WYSE-50

1999-08-06 Thread MRCE



Hi,
 
Not a very sophisticated question, but does anyone know 
how to stop the beep that comes with every keystroke on the WYSE-50 dummy 
terminal?
 
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THANKS!


using ccmalloc

1999-08-06 Thread Micha Feigin
How do i use ccmalloc to track memory leaks?
I tried to use it as writen in the file USAGE in the docs, on a new with
no delete (to see how it works). But i got nothing.
I tried:
gcc -lg++ -stdc++ -lccmaloc -ldl test.C
gcc -lccmalloc -ldl test.C
g++ -lccmalloc -ldl test.C
trying -lccmalloc.o or ccmalloc.o BTW gave a massage that the linker
couldn't find ccmalloc.o
Thanx
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RE: damn glib

1999-08-06 Thread Pollywog

On 06-Aug-99 wonko wrote:
> i installed glib1.2.3 but gtk+ says cannot find glib1.2.3 anyway what do
> i do?

Make sure it is really installed:

$ dpkg -l | grep glib

Did you install it from source or a deb package?

--
Andrew


Re: Is it safe to upgrade slink to libc-2.1 from potato

1999-08-06 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Julian Stoev wrote:

> > Do you want run 2.2.10 in slink? Or you want other packages from potato,
> > that aren't related to kernel?
> > If you want just 2.2.10, go to Debian page and look for Installation
> > instructions. There are instruction on how to run 2.2.10 on Slink as well
> > as, links to netbase for 2.2.10 (slink), etc. See Errata Section.
> > 
> > PS.: I'm running 2.2.10 on 4 Slink systems without problems.
> > 
> 
> No. I want to be able to compile and install other packages from potato.
> This is now quite easy with the source option in the new apt-get.
> 

Ok. But what I meant is: for the kernel you don't need glibc2.1 Just some
packages like netbase need to be upgraded.

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21


Re: miror package in potato

1999-08-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
Not all of the potato packages have been updated to the latest perl,
which causes a few headaches.  It's almost there.  Check the archives
for more information on this.

Bob

On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 10:33:05PM -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
> The potato mirror package is not up to date. 
> apt-get insists on removing it becuase of dependency on perl
> is this correct?
> 
> -Oz
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Re: vmware on debian

1999-08-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 05:26:27AM +0300, Alex Shnitman wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 11:28:28AM +1000, debian wrote:
> 
> > Anyone managed to install vmware via the vmware install perl script and
> > actually get it to work and make modules for its devices. I get erros on
> > install about my kernel version..
> > 
> > Anyone care to give me some help/hints on getting it to install cleanly. And
> > work.
> 
> You have to have the kernel source, or at least the headers part of
> it, in /usr/src/linux. Sometimes that's not enough (I'm not familiar
> with the vmware Makefile so I can't tell for vmware) and you have to
> do this:
> cd /usr/include
> mv linux linux.old
> ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux .

I believe you meant 'ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux'.

> mv asm asm.old
> ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm .

This is not necessary in my experience.

Bob

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Re: Is it safe to upgrade slink to libc-2.1 from potato

1999-08-06 Thread Guilherme Soares Zahn
> I want to ask if it is safe to upgrade slink's libc-2.0 to potato's
> libc-2.1. Are there some slink packages dependent specifically on libc2.0,
> which would not work with libc-2.1?

Well... I'd say for 99% of the people I know the glibc2.1 worked wonderfully, 
and
they're very happy with it... Unfortunately, though, I stand on the other 1%, 
and I
must tell you... after a while it gets REALLY hard to do a downgrade in the 
glibc (as
everything else in my potato system is now glibc2.1-dependent)... In my personal
case, the problem was that I HAVE to run some scientific analysis programs that
simply refuse to run since I installed the glibc2.1 (there's rumors that they 
have
eliminated some ¨under-the-roof¨ instructions that shouldn't be used anyway, but
those programs used)...

Anyway, bottom line is that, IMHO, if you only use ¨regular¨ Debian programs 
(the
ones usually distributed with it or with any other Linux distribution like 
RedHat,
Caldera or such) there should be no problem at all...

[]'s

Guilherme Zahn


Re: vmware on debian

1999-08-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
I just install it with the install.pl script.  It complains about the
module versions and then creates new ones.  I didn't have to do anything
special, as I recall.  I just upgraded last week and it also went
smoothly, with the new modules being created by the script.  I am
running it on potato.

Bob


On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 11:28:28AM +1000, debian wrote:
> Anyone managed to install vmware via the vmware install perl script and
> actually get it to work and make modules for its devices. I get erros on
> install about my kernel version..
> 
> Anyone care to give me some help/hints on getting it to install cleanly. And
> work.
> 
> 
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Diald Setup

1999-08-06 Thread Charles Gates
I've installed the diald package, but I can't get it to work properly.
There are two problems:

1) diald won't dial unless I have previously started the connection with
pon (it gives an error, www.whatever.com not found). Once I have started
the connection with pon (and closed it with poff), diald will dial and
connect as it is supposed to.

2) Once diald makes the connection, I cannot access any sites with
Netscape. If I use pon to connect I don't have any problems.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.


Re: Problem running Corel WP

1999-08-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
WordPerfect requires libc5, while Debian uses libc6 in version 2.1 and
up.  However, for compatibility with libc5 applications, Debian also
provides libc5 packages in such a way that they will not break your
system.

To run WP (I use WP7, but this applies to WP8 also), you need to install
three of the libc5 packages: libc5, xlib6 and xpm4.7.  Although some of
the libc5 and libc6 files have the same names, they are installed in
different directories, so your system will not break.

Hopefully when WP 2000 is released for Linux, it will be based on
whatever library is current at that time (libc6 2.1?)  Since Corel is
itself working on a Debian-based Linux distribution, one can also hope
that the new WP will be available in .deb format.

Bob

On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 09:16:01PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I had the same problem and didn't fix it yet.  I went to the Word Perfect web
> site a while ago and if you click around you will find a Linux support page 
> with
> a newsgroup.  In reading the postings you will find that several other people
> have the same problem.
> 
> My recollection is that "the experts" said we need to have two different
> versions of glibc at the same time, separated so as to not mess up the rest of
> the system.  Since I'm new to Debian it seemed like a good way to break my
> package system.
> 
> Just thought I would pass that along.  They may have an answer over there by
> now.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Joe Bouchard
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Is it safe to upgrade slink to libc-2.1 from potato

1999-08-06 Thread Julian Stoev


On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Julian Stoev wrote:
> 
> > Hi!  
> > I installed kernel 2.2.10 and I would like to be able to grab some sources
> > from potato and compile them. But some package sources depend on kernel
> > headers for 2.2.x and don't compile with kernel headers 2.0.x available
> > from libc-dev-2.0 in slink. Such a package is netbase for example.  I can
> > easilly break with Debian tradition and install symlinks from
> > /usr/src/linux to /usr/include, but I don't want to do this, so I think
> > the best way is to install libc-dev-2.1, which is dependent on libc-2.1.
> > What do you think?
> 
> Do you want run 2.2.10 in slink? Or you want other packages from potato,
> that aren't related to kernel?
> If you want just 2.2.10, go to Debian page and look for Installation
> instructions. There are instruction on how to run 2.2.10 on Slink as well
> as, links to netbase for 2.2.10 (slink), etc. See Errata Section.
> 
> PS.: I'm running 2.2.10 on 4 Slink systems without problems.
> 

No. I want to be able to compile and install other packages from potato.
This is now quite easy with the source option in the new apt-get.

--Julian Stoev


Re: SB16 PnP CD-ROM - proprietary or IDE?

1999-08-06 Thread Guilherme Soares Zahn
> Here's a scenario.  I boot up DOS, along with the PnP drivers, so my
> soundcard and CD-ROM work fine.  Then I soft boot using my Linux boot disk.
> During boot up, I observe these messages:
> hdh: Matshita CR-581 ATAPI CD-ROM drive
> ide3 at 0x168-0x16f, 0x36e on irq 10
> These messages do *not* appear if I hard boot straight into Linux.
> (snip)
> Finally, the command ln -s /dev/hdh /dev/cdrom does not work.  There is no
> /dev/hdh, although linux finds hdh:Matshita CR-581 ATAPI CD-ROM drive during
> start-up.

Well, here the problem *seems* simple: you just forgot to mount your CD unit 
with

mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdh /mnt/cdrom

That's why Linux can't find the filesystem there... Also (I think) you should 
only do
a ls to a mounted filesystem... Other possible reason is that the device in 
/dev/hdh
hasn't been created yet... for that purpose (I guess) you'd have to use 
MAKEDEV, but
then it's a bit beyond my present knowledge...

As for reasons why the device doesn't show up when you hard boot into Linux... 
have
you tried plugging the CD-ROM cable straight into the IDE card? This might even 
solve
the previous problem, and the CD unit should be recognized as /dev/hdb, hdc or 
hdd
(if it's plugged as 1st slave, 2nd master or 2nd slave, respectively). For the
messages you sent I'm almost sure it is a REAL ATAPI/IDE CD-ROM drive.

Hope this helps!

Guilherme Zahn


Re: stop bringing up X window when Linux booting

1999-08-06 Thread Guilherme Soares Zahn
> dpkg --purge xdm
>
> works for my 2.1 system. Then you must kill -9 pid_for_xdm.

Hmmm... I was thinking of a workaround that *may* work fine... what if you just 
remove the
¨xdm¨ script from the /etc/init.d folder (and the links in the /etc/rc.# 
folders, also)?
This should do the trick *without* the need to completely remove xdm form you 
system (you
may want it back someday) AND without bringing up any problem with broken 
dependencies...

[]'s

Guilherme Zahn


Re: Install problem...

1999-08-06 Thread virtanen
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Umut Ceyhan wrote:

> Opsss... 
> 1. CD :
> /.disk
> /boot
> /dists
> /doc
> /install
> /tools
> debian
> Readme.1st
> README.CD-man...
> etc.


OK as far I can see, they are the ones You will need. 


1)
Now in the directory /install you will find for example:

install.html

which is a html-file of the installation guide. 


2)
Just read that (quite carefully to decide, which way to the
installation) and start installing... (You will probably need 
disks to 'rawrite' your 'resc'- and 'drivers'- disks on, but otherwise I
thing that You've got the things what You'll need...)

3)
If you don't have any web-browser or some other program to read the 
install.html -file, you can use the install.txt to read about
installation. 

4)
Basically the installation- procedure is quite simple, if you happen to
have suitable hardware. 

-hv   


Is it safe to upgrade slink to libc-2.1 from potato

1999-08-06 Thread Julian Stoev
Hi!  

I want to ask if it is safe to upgrade slink's libc-2.0 to potato's
libc-2.1. Are there some slink packages dependent specifically on libc2.0,
which would not work with libc-2.1?

I installed kernel 2.2.10 and I would like to be able to grab some sources
from potato and compile them. But some package sources depend on kernel
headers for 2.2.x and don't compile with kernel headers 2.0.x available
from libc-dev-2.0 in slink. Such a package is netbase for example.  I can
easilly break with Debian tradition and install symlinks from
/usr/src/linux to /usr/include, but I don't want to do this, so I think
the best way is to install libc-dev-2.1, which is dependent on libc-2.1.

What do you think?

--Julian Stoev


Re: Install problem...

1999-08-06 Thread Umut Ceyhan
Opsss... 
1. CD :
/.disk
/boot
/dists
/doc
/install
/tools
debian
Readme.1st
README.CD-man...
etc.

2. CD :
/.disk
/boot
/dists
/doc
/extras
debian
Readme.1st
README.CD-man...
...
Release-Notes


When I boot with them, I saw that these were RESCUE CDs. Where are the
install CDs ???

On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, virtanen wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Umut Ceyhan wrote:
> 
> > I have 2 Debian CDs. Can anyone tell me how I can install Debian with
> > them. The two CDs are Rescue CDs ??? None of them can boot properly, it
> > cannot pass the step of recognizing ATAPI CDROM drive. Where is install 
> > CD
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> could you anyhow give us the information about the contents of your CDs? 
> 
> 1) For example first the list of the directories on the CDs so that we
> could know which kind of CDs they are.  
> 
> 2) If you can give the directory trees... for sure we can know, if they
> are supposed to be debian installation disks or not. 
> 
> -hv
> 


SB16 PnP CD-ROM - proprietary or IDE?

1999-08-06 Thread JARDINE, Jeff
I apologize for the consumption of bandwidth.  I have queried the
distributor from whom I purchased Debian for support, but this particular
problem appears to be quite specific and I'm hoping someone on the list may
have already encountered it.

Here are two lines from the CD-ROM howto:

"If you recently bought a CD-ROM drive, don't assume that if it connects to
a SoundBlaster card it should use this [sbpcd] kernel driver.  Most CD-ROM
drives being sold by Creative Labs are now EIDE/ATAPI drives."

"Some documentation may refer to proprietary interfaces as IDE, leading some
to mistakenly believe they are ATAPI drives."

So, the CD-ROM howto didn't clarify which I should be using for my
particular case.  It's a SB16 PnP, with a 4x CD-ROM that plugs into the
soundcard.  The manual refers to the drive as IDE.

I have installed the base linux kernel installed (from my DOS partition),
and can boot up without a hitch.  I tried installing the sbpcd driver from
the bootstrap menu until my face turned blue, to no avail.  I also tried
installing from CD with every IDE option, opening and closing the drive door
regularly for good measure.

Here's a scenario.  I boot up DOS, along with the PnP drivers, so my
soundcard and CD-ROM work fine.  Then I soft boot using my Linux boot disk.
During boot up, I observe these messages:
hdh: Matshita CR-581 ATAPI CD-ROM drive
ide3 at 0x168-0x16f, 0x36e on irq 10
These messages do *not* appear if I hard boot straight into Linux.

Once I sign on, I type the following commands and get the following output:
(the * indicates items appearing only when I soft boot into linux from DOS,
having already loaded my DOS drivers)

cat /proc/devices
Character devices
1   mem
2   pty
3   ttyp
4   ttyp
5   console
7   vcs
10  misc
12  tpqic02
36  netlink
Block devices
1   ramdisk
2   fd
3   ide0
7   loop
9   md
34  ide3 *
36  ed

cat /proc/filesystems
ext2
minix
msdos
nodev   proc
iso9660

cat /proc/interrupts
0   timer
1   keyboard
2   cascade
8   + rtc
10  + ide3 *
13  math error
14  + ide0

cat /proc/ioports
-001f   dma1
0020-003f   pic1
0040-005f   timer
0060-006f   keyboard
0070-007f   rtc
0080-008f   dma page reg
00a0-00bf   pic2
00c0-00df   dma2
00f0-00ff   npa
0168-016f   ide3 *
01f0-01f7   ide0
036e-036e   ide3 *
03c0-03df   vga+
03f0-03f5   floppy
03f6-03f6   ide0
03f7-03f7   floppy DIR

>From a DOS application I use called ICU (interrupt configuration utility), I
can see my SB16 PnP is set up to use IRQ 5 and 10, DMA 1 and 5, I/O ports
108, 168-16f, 200-207, 220-22f, 330-331, 36e-36f, and 388-38b.  I have tried
all these IO ports and more with sbpcd, both after a soft boot from DOS and
a hard boot straight into Linux.

Finally, the command ln -s /dev/hdh /dev/cdrom does not work.  There is no
/dev/hdh, although linux finds hdh:Matshita CR-581 ATAPI CD-ROM drive during
start-up.

I have tried everything short of opening the case and playing with the
jumpers on the CD-ROM drive.  That will be a last resort only - my hands are
too big to perform such tasks safely.

Jeff J


Re: stop bringing up X window when Linux booting

1999-08-06 Thread David Teague

 
> On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Daniel Yang wrote:
> 
> > When my Linux boots, it  starts X window automatically. I don't know how to 
> > stop it. 

On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Patrick Olson wrote:
> If you remove the package 'xdm' it will have to stop doing that.  I'm not
> sure it that's the recommended way or not.
> 
> Or you could hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 when X it starts.  That leaves X running, but
> switches you to another virtual terminal that is not running X. 


dpkg --purge xdm

works for my 2.1 system. Then you must kill -9 pid_for_xdm.

If you don't kill xdm with sigkill (or reboot), you still have an
xdm process running. xdm doesn't want to die.  It won't do anything
until you try kill it with anything but a -9 signal, then it spawns
an xwindow. Which you then must kill with a sigkill.

startx and other methods of starting xwindows still work.

Hope this helps; all standard disclaimers apply. 

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (I'm hoping this is all of the above!)


Re: [OT] How fast is a PIII?

1999-08-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 05:21:09AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote:

> The PIII streaming MMX instructions were designed for realtime video. 
> Don't know if the gcc compiler supports them yet, or if any mpeg or

They're supported by binutils and you can use them in inline assembly,
but gcc has no support for generating MMX instructions.  PGCC does, but
it's likely that your code will need fine tuning before it will use them
effectively.

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Re: Install problem...

1999-08-06 Thread virtanen
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Umut Ceyhan wrote:

> I have 2 Debian CDs. Can anyone tell me how I can install Debian with
> them. The two CDs are Rescue CDs ??? None of them can boot properly, it
> cannot pass the step of recognizing ATAPI CDROM drive. Where is install 
> CD

Hi, 

could you anyhow give us the information about the contents of your CDs? 

1) For example first the list of the directories on the CDs so that we
could know which kind of CDs they are.  

2) If you can give the directory trees... for sure we can know, if they
are supposed to be debian installation disks or not. 

-hv


Re: exim as MTA for a ppp machine how?

1999-08-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 07:30:50PM -0800, Britton wrote:

>   fsblk at aurora.alaska.edu: loses; [USER] 550 relaying to
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator
> post: 1 addressee undeliverable
> send: message not delivered to anyone

> Does anyone have any idea what might be going on here?  I have begun to
> RTFM for exim but it's about 30,000 lines.  

Your mail server is apparently configured not to allow anyone to use it
to forward SMTP mail to other systems.  Can allow local users to do so 
by modifying the relay_domains setting to include the local machine:

   relay_domains = localhost : whatever_else_you_call_your_box

(If you call your machine anything other than localhost, you probably
ought to list that).

> When I do:

> mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] < test_file.txt 

> I don't see an error message.  Any special place an error messages might
> go?

There aren't any error messages from this because mail sends mail using
the /usr/lib/sendmail program rather than using SMTP.

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Re: Support for ADAC ultra 2 pci RAID controller

1999-08-06 Thread Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe
Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Anyone knows if the upper mentioned beast has any supoprt in linux. I
> tend to believe that it hasn't but maybe someonehas got it to work with
> some other controller's drivers...

Found it! It's the Ami megaRAID driver

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Re: [OT] How fast is a PIII?

1999-08-06 Thread Kenneth Scharf
The PII is built on an older process than the PIII.  The PIII-450 is
the slowest member of the PIII family, while the PII-450 is the
fastest.  As a result yields on the PII450 are much smaller than that
of the PIII450.This will explain why the PII-450 costs a little
more than the PIII-450.  The more modern (read smaller geometry) chips
run cooler and use less power than the older ones.   Also the PIII has
the 'big brother' feature of the cpu-serial number id.  Perhaps the
fact that the PII does NOT have this makes it more desirable?  (IMHO
this is bullshit, since if you have a lan card in your system you
ALREADY have a unique id in your computer, your mac address!)  

Bottom line is that the PII is on the endangered species list, all of
the 66mhz fsb versions are no longer being made, the 350,400, and 450
will be discontinued by the end of the year.  The PIII will be the
upper end for desktops, the celeron the lower end.  Celeron cpus with a
100 mhz fsb will be out when the PIII switches to the 133 fsb later
this year or early next.  (This is the so called 'copper mine' chip,
which may or may not abandon the slot 1 format and come in a new pga
package.  Coppermine will release in a 600 mhz version first, faster
ones latter.  The PIII 600 will be the last of the current PIII chips).

The PIII streaming MMX instructions were designed for realtime video. 
Don't know if the gcc compiler supports them yet, or if any mpeg or
x-driver software can use them yet.  That's where the PIII will make a
real difference.
  Is the PIII450 slower than the PII450?  Maybe, but I would guess that
the motherboard in use could make more of a difference.  There are two
flavors of BX chipset MB's.  The BX-2 boards use a newer version of the
chipset that is designed to support the PIII.  The older bx boards will
work with the PIII, but were designed for the PII.  The result is  that
a PIII will run faster on a BX-2 MB than on a BX MB.  You might not
notice any difference except on the fastest PIII's though.
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Re: 2.2.x kernel and PCI eth0 problem - the answer

1999-08-06 Thread Rupert Brooks
Thanks Jor-el,

I upgraded dhcpcd and netbase and it works like a charm. The fact that 2.2
kernels require an upgrade is documented in the release notes section on
www.debian.org.  (Yes I am embarrassed - I should have caught that myself)

Thanks also to Paul Wade, who also dropped me a helpful note, with other
diagnostic techniques.

Namaste
Rupert B.



At 08:02 AM 03/08/99 -0500, Jor-el wrote:
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>Rupert,
>
>   I assume that you are running Slink. Have to installed the upgrade
>versions of the packages that are required for your to be running the
>2.2.x kernels? I belive the net-tools package is one of the packages that
>need to be ugraded, so I am not at all surprised to hear that networking
>is failing for you.
>
>   There is a URL available somewhere on the Debian website which
>tells you about the packages that need to be upgraded. Unfortunately, I do
>not have a URL handy - so you'll have to search.
>
>Regards,
>Jor-el
>
>Everywhere I go I'm asked if I think the university stifles writers.  My
>opinion is that they don't stifle enough of them.  There's many a bestseller
>that could have been prevented by a good teacher.
>   -- Flannery O'Connor
>
>On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Rupert Brooks wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have configed and compiled both the 2.2.10 and 2.2.5 kernels, and my
>> ne2000 clone PCI ethernet card does not work with either.
>> 
>> With my 2.0.34 kernel, the card worked fine.  The module ne2k-pci loaded
>> without a hitch and dhcpcd configured the ip information flawlessly.  (
>> I use an ADSL connection which requires DHCP to be used to set up the IP
>> address.)
>> 
>> I have tried both kernels  with NE2000 support compiled in.  In this
>> case, the card appears to be recognized on startup, but DHCPCD does not
>> create new files when it runs.  DHCPCD does not report any errors
>> either.  ifconfig without arguments shows the loopback device.  Ifconfig
>> listing all devices lists the eth0 device and it looks ok, but none of
>> the IP information is configured.  Note that I have also used dhcpcd
>> eth0 to try and force dhcp to use the ethernet card.
>> 
>> If I configure the kernel to use loadable module support for the
>> ethernet card, then the module ne2k-pci won't load.  When using insmod
>> to try to load it, it will complain aboutn several symbols not being
>> resolved.  From their names they look like the ethernet card hooks in
>> the kernel.
>> 
>> After that lengthy description - I have a couple questions
>> 
>> Does anyone out there have a ne2000 PCI ethernet card working under a
>> 2.2.x kernel?
>> If so, did you have to do anything wierd to get it to work?
>> I am not sure what is not working, because there have been so few error
>> messages.  Can anyone recommend some diagnostic tests?
>> 
>> TIA
>> 
>> Rupert Brooks
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OT] How fast is a PIII?

1999-08-06 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
> > The only difference between a PII and a PIII at the same clock speed
> > that I know of are the extra `SSE' instructions that are mainly useful
> > for 3D stuff and maybe some other floating point intensive software.

> IIRC, the 2nd level cache of the Pentium III is running at the same speed as
> the CPU, wheras the 2nd level cache of Pentium II's is running at half the
> CPU speed.

No, the PIII has its 2nd level cache running at half processor speed.
The 2nd level cache does run at full processor speed in the Xeon and
PIII Xeon processors, which are ridiculously overpriced.

HTH,
Eric

-- 
 E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology
 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (SKA)


Re: [OT] How fast is a PIII?

1999-08-06 Thread Matthew Gregan
On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 12:27:25PM +0200, Nils Rennebarth wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 09:48:05AM +0200, E.L. Meijer Eric" wrote:
> > The only difference between a PII and a PIII at the same clock speed
> > that I know of are the extra `SSE' instructions that are mainly useful
> > for 3D stuff and maybe some other floating point intensive software.
> IIRC, the 2nd level cache of the Pentium III is running at the same speed as
> the CPU, wheras the 2nd level cache of Pentium II's is running at half the
> CPU speed.

Actually, the P3 has the same speed L2 cache as the P2 (that is, half
the CPU speed). The Celeron-As and the Xeons are the ones with
full-speed L2 cache on them.

> This should give a performance difference (though not enough for me,
> compared to the price difference)

I haven't benchmarked them myselves, but I have heard that the P3 is
*slightly* slower at the same clock speed due to some changes made to
the core to enable the clock rate to climb later. (i.e. a 450MHz P2
might be slightly quicker than a 450MHz P3, but they can't build a
600MHz P2, but they can build a P3).

The above statement doesn't include the benefits you would receieve in
a application optimized for and using the new P3 SSE instructions,
obviously. Then there's quite a large difference in speed.

-- 
Matthew Gregan  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Install problem...

1999-08-06 Thread Umut Ceyhan
I have 2 Debian CDs. Can anyone tell me how I can install Debian with
them. The two CDs are Rescue CDs ??? None of them can boot properly, it
cannot pass the step of recognizing ATAPI CDROM drive. Where is install CD
??? 
I need help...

Thanks lot...

Umut Ceyhan


Support for ADAC ultra 2 pci RAID controller

1999-08-06 Thread Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe
Hi

Anyone knows if the upper mentioned beast has any supoprt in linux. I
tend to believe that it hasn't but maybe someonehas got it to work with
some other controller's drivers...

Thanks
-- 
Mario Filipe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf


Re: [potato] gdm doesn't start windowmanager

1999-08-06 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Nico De Ranter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> I verified it: my .xsession-errors stays empty :-(.
> 
Under gdm/Gnome your errors go to .gnome-errors and/or .gnomerc-errors 
(couldn't figure out when which file is used ...) instead of
.xsession-errors.

You should set debugging on in the gdm.conf (it's an option somewhere
at the end -- I don't use gdm any more ...), then look at the syslog
file for the results.

To start a window manager behind gdm, I went to the .gnome directory
and edited the file wm-default (or something like this, sorry, can't
remember the right name, but you should look after something like wm
or windowmanager): instead of gnome-wm I wrote icewm-gnome (put in
your preferred wm).

Hope that helps,
joachim

PS: I once posted a bug report about gdm not starting a wm, you may
look at the bug database at www.debian.org.


Re: [OT] How fast is a PIII?

1999-08-06 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 09:48:05AM +0200, E.L. Meijer Eric" wrote:
> The only difference between a PII and a PIII at the same clock speed
> that I know of are the extra `SSE' instructions that are mainly useful
> for 3D stuff and maybe some other floating point intensive software.
IIRC, the 2nd level cache of the Pentium III is running at the same speed as
the CPU, wheras the 2nd level cache of Pentium II's is running at half the
CPU speed.

This should give a performance difference (though not enough for me,
compared to the price difference)

Nils

--
Plug-and-Play is really nice, unfortunately it only works 50% of the time.
To be specific the "Plug" almost always works.--unknown source


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Re: Backing up just my personal stuff (was: backing up a complet

1999-08-06 Thread Michael Merten
On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 12:09:55PM +0200, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:
> Wim Kerkhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Anyways, I want to set up something, so that whatever apt-get downloads is 
> > stuc
> > k into a proper hierachy like the mirrors do, and possibly a package file as
> > well.  That way, when I want to reinstall, I just install whatever off the 
> > CD,
> > and upgrade to potato with my partial mirror.  It does *kinda* suck to have 
> > to
> > re-download all those packages again at 5kb/sec :) 
> > 
> You could point your `sources.list' to the cache directory. Indeed 
> there is a way to do what you want, but you would have to abandon
> apt-get in favour of `dftp', which creates a directory hierarchy and
> all needed package files whenever you download packages with `dftp
> getnew' (preferably with the option `--ask'; you can then even get a
> description of new packages which aren't yet installed on your
> system).
> 

I wrote a script to do what he wants.  If anybody would be
interested in giving it a try, I'd be more than happy to send you a
copy.

Mike

[Private mail welcome, but no need to CC: me on list replies.]

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Re: Backing up just my personal stuff (was: backing up a complet

1999-08-06 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Wim Kerkhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Anyways, I want to set up something, so that whatever apt-get downloads is 
> stuc
> k into a proper hierachy like the mirrors do, and possibly a package file as
> well.  That way, when I want to reinstall, I just install whatever off the CD,
> and upgrade to potato with my partial mirror.  It does *kinda* suck to have to
> re-download all those packages again at 5kb/sec :) 
> 
You could point your `sources.list' to the cache directory. Indeed 
there is a way to do what you want, but you would have to abandon
apt-get in favour of `dftp', which creates a directory hierarchy and
all needed package files whenever you download packages with `dftp
getnew' (preferably with the option `--ask'; you can then even get a
description of new packages which aren't yet installed on your
system).

Greetings,
joachim


Re: LILO on hdc (to be hda)

1999-08-06 Thread William T Wilson
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Keith001 wrote:

> BTW, does anyone have an idea about how to use different fstab at
> bootup - by using a boot parameter for instance? The idea is to be

Not possible.  /etc/fstab is read by mount, which is called by the startup
scripts.  

You can, of course, modify the scripts to shuffle the fstab file before it
mounts any partitions.

> able to use a disk that is sometimes hda, sometimes hdb (my bios

Why in the world would your hard drives change their drive assignments on
a regular basis?

hda is always the master IDE drive on the first controller, and hdb is
always the slave.

You can remap these with LILO if you really want - (I dont remember the
options) - but why, if you don't have to worry about booting off of a
particular disk?  The primary use of that is for DOS which can't
comprehend booting off of anything other than the first disk.

Anyway, you should be able to come up with a setup that is at least
consistent all the time.


printing again

1999-08-06 Thread Jocke
I am sorry to ask again but I am really stuck here.

If anyone has a working system with an
epson stylus color 740 printer I would be very
grateful for some help.

I would like something like 4 settings.

1: draft text mode
2: high quality text
3: draft pictures
4: high quality pictures 

I really hate asking for help but I can't really
get it to work and a working printer is pretty
high on my list.

lprng
gs-aladdin

apsfilter or magicfilter ?

I did find some .upp files from "Installing the Epson stylus
color 740 under Redhat Linuc 5.2/6.0" web page.
 
But the page really describe setting it up using RH printtool
and rhs-printfilters package so I am not sure how to convert
this to debian.

I guess that the 3 .upp files (720x720 plain paper, 1440x720dpi Inktjet Paper
and 360x360dpi Plain Paper) should be put somewhere in the ghostscript
dir ?

I guess that printing problems are a quite common newbie thing (at least
if you count the number of help! posts on the net) and I am wondering If
I might not have missed something? Is there a Debian printguide somwhere ?

Any help would be appreciated

Regards
Joakim Svensson


Re: most: cannot display *.gz files

1999-08-06 Thread Matthias Murra
>   I came in in the middle of this thread, I don't know who I should
>be talking to here.

I was the one who originally started the thread. :)

>> > I can view any file with "most ", except for gzipped files.
>> > Whenever I try that, I get
>> >   : failed to open for reading.
>
>   Hmm, I'm running a potato system using most as my pager.  Most on
>my system handles gzipped files automatically (filename.gz). 
>There was no configuration needed on my part.  There isn't a
>default 'config' file that sets this up; most apparently handles
>gzipped files internally, right out of the box.  Perhaps you have
>an older version?

As I have said, my version is the one that comes with slink, i. e.,
version 4.8.1-0.1. I have added some potato packages that were required
to run the kernel v2.2.10. (I needed that to take care of my old '97 BIOS
which feels it should garble the data it gets from my 10 GB harddisk and
advertise it as an 8.4 GB drive.)

If anyone out there is running a slink system, has the version of "most"
installed that came with it (or could install it for a few seconds :->) and
would be so kind to tell me if "most .gz" works, that might help. :)
If it doesn't, I'd try installing the unstable potato version to see
whether that gives an improvement.

I have the feeling that it might be due to one or more of the updated
potato packages, although dselect didn't complain about any mismatched
versions or dependencies that weren't met.

TIA,
Matt


Re: Fetchmail and Exim - CRACKED IT!!

1999-08-06 Thread Phillip Deackes
George - I've cracked it!

I have been scoring my /etc/exim.conf file just changing odd things and
remming out others, and I noticed the following:

smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 300
# >> Option rewritten by convert4r3
host_reject = "! 192.168.1.0/24 : \
   ! 194.217.242.0/24 : \
   *"

No idea why it is there, but I remmed it out and now exim works fine

Thanks a lot for all your help, George.


--
Phillip Deackes
Debian Linux (Potato) 


Re: Fetchmail and Exim - 554 SMTP service not available

1999-08-06 Thread Phillip Deackes
George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> uhm  try:
> 
> exim: ALL 
> 
> in /etc/hosts.allow and then 
> 
> kill -HUP `pidof inetd`
> 
> Note that those are ` (backticks) not ' (single quote).
> 
> And then try again.
> 
> If that fails, see if there s ia reason noted in
> /var/log/exim/mainlog,
> /var/log/exim/rejectlog or /var/log/exim/paniclog

Hi, George. Unfortunately that makes no difference. There was already
sendmail: all in /etc/hosts/allow. I added exim: ALL, did the Kill -HUP
`pidof inetd` and tried 'telnet localhost 25'. Got the same message as
before.

Looking in my log files I notice:

/var/log/exim/mainlog:

1999-08-06 09:02:02 connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] (gsmh) refused
1999-08-06 09:03:20 connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] (gsmh) refused

And in /var/log/exim/rejectlog:

1999-08-06 09:02:02 connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] (gsmh) refused
-
1999-08-06 09:03:20 connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] (gsmh) refused
-

There is nothing at all in paniclog.

Thanks again for your help.


--
Phillip Deackes
Debian Linux (Potato) 


Re: [OT] How fast is a PIII?

1999-08-06 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
> 
> 
> I wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know how fast is a PIII, say 500MHz?
> > How does it compare to PII or Celeron?
> 
> http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,391810,00.html
> 
> says it's only 8% faster than PII at same clock speed when
> running business apps on Windows.
> If anyone has Linux benchmarks, post 'em!

The only difference between a PII and a PIII at the same clock speed
that I know of are the extra `SSE' instructions that are mainly useful
for 3D stuff and maybe some other floating point intensive software.  As
far as I know, there are currently no compilers for linux that actually
use these instructions, so I would expect the difference is about 0%.

HTH,
Eric


-- 
 E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology
 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (SKA)


Re: LILO on hdc (to be hda)

1999-08-06 Thread Keith001
Hi,

>> The problem basically is that I want to be able
>> to specify three things:
>>  - root filesystem after Linux has booted
>>  - the device to write boot table to
>>  - the device for lilo to use at booting to read the kernels etc.
>> And I only have `root=' and `boot=' arguments to specify all
>> three.
Is it me or is it exactly what's explained in the Lilo mini-howto:

·  The next one shows how to install Lilo on a hard drive connected as
 /dev/hdc that will boot as /dev/hda.  This is usually needed when
 you install a new Linux drive from your own running system.


BTW, does anyone have an idea about how to use different fstab at bootup - by 
using a boot parameter for instance?
The idea is to be able to use a disk that is sometimes hda, sometimes hdb (my 
bios allows booting from the second drive).
For now, I have to go boot from floppy and manually edit fstab (or link it to a 
different file)
Of course I could set up two boot partitions, with each its own /etc/fstab... 
but is it possible to specify which fstab file to use at boot time?

Thanx for any idea
Keith


Re: apache-ssl and virtual hosts

1999-08-06 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi,

> 
> How can I use virtual hosts on the SSL port in apache?
> 

here is a snipplet from my httpd.conf that works for me.

Regards, Thomas

#

Port 443
Listen 137.248.9.9:443
Port 80
Listen 137.248.9.9:80
 
NameVirtualHost 137.248.9.9:80


SSLDisable
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocumentRoot /var/www
ServerName stud-login2.uni-marburg.de
ErrorLog /var/log/apache-ssl/error.log
TransferLog /var/log/apache-ssl/access.log



SSLDisable
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocumentRoot /usr/share/horde/imp
ServerName stud-webmail.uni-marburg.de
ErrorLog /var/log/apache-ssl/stud-webmail-error.log
TransferLog /var/log/apache-ssl/stud-webmail-access.log
RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule ^/index.php3 https://stud-webmail.uni-marburg.de/ [R]


NameVirtualHost 137.248.9.9:443


SSLEnable
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocumentRoot /usr/share/horde/imp
ServerName stud-webmail.uni-marburg.de
ErrorLog /var/log/apache-ssl/stud-webmail-error.log
TransferLog /var/log/apache-ssl/stud-webmail-access.log




Re: slink problems

1999-08-06 Thread goswin . brederlow
From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Stephane Bortzmeyer writes:
> > Many other suggestions have been made to solve the problem. It is not easy.
> > You have to find:
> > 
> > - a good scheme (think of X11-only installers, without a tty),
> > - implement it (i.e. modify 3000 packages' {pre,post}{rm,inst}.

> Nonsense.  The solution is quite easy.  Modify the routine that
> handles the installers so it *also* looks for installers whose names
> start with 0 (the single digit 0).  If one is found, do not look for
> a name without a zero (to ensure that you don't find the same script
> twice).  Process the installers sorted by name and dependency.  At
> the same time (actually, before *or* after), instruct package
> creators to create a hard link to their installers ONLY if the
> installer will never ask questions.  Give that link the same name
> prepended by a zero.

Whats the point of adding a link? If the link is present, it gets
executed (i.e. the script is run), if its not present the script gets
also run. So the install script gets allways run, no matter wether it
asks questions or not.
...
> Actually, the right way to solve this problem is for Debian to adopt
> webmin (http://webmin.com), and say "installers do not ask

As far as I know webim is potentially comercial, as the com also
suggests. The licence I read said that it was free know but the author 
wanted to make it comercial later. Also the system is not good enough
since it lacks several needed features. Also webmin only works over
the web with a browser. What about Systems wich lack the ability to
use a webbrowser and server or people that don't whant those?

> questions, period.  If you need configuration, write a webmin
> package."  But obviously that's a lot more work.

Some package MUST asks questions before being usable at all. The user
should have the choise of getting asked those questions right away, or 
not get asked at all and then configure them later. But then he has to 
be able to see which packages are unconfigured or have a broken
config. Also the amount of questions asked must be selectable.

Please read the threads and proposals in the mailinglist archive about 
configuration tools and better ways to configure debian
systems. Currently several people including me are working on
something far better, more free and far more flexible than webmin.

May the Source be with you.
Goswin


damn glib

1999-08-06 Thread wonko
i installed glib1.2.3 but gtk+ says cannot find glib1.2.3 anyway what do
i do?


Fetchmail and Exim - 554 SMTP service not available

1999-08-06 Thread npardo
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phillip Deackes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

PD:: I can collect mail via smtp from Demon Internet, I can also
PD:: collect mail from Demon and other IPs using fetchmail and
PD:: Procmail. I can't seem to get Fetchmail to hand mail on to
PD:: Exim for local delivery.

[...]

Check your /etc/inetd.conf.  If the line

smtp stream  tcp nowait  mail/usr/sbin/exim exim -bs

is commented, uncomment it.


-- 

RESET


Guile/gnucash install problem

1999-08-06 Thread Bek Oberin

Trying to install gnucash, this is what  happens:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~# apt-get install gnucash
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, gnucash is already the newest version
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 125 not upgraded.
2 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Setting up guile1.3 (1.3-15) ...
Checking available versions of guile, updating links in /etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Leaving guile (/usr/bin/guile) pointing to /usr/bin/guile1.3.
Leaving guileman (/usr/man/man1/guile.1.gz) pointing to 
/usr/man/man1/guile1.3.1.gz.
Already have a /usr/share/slib, not relinking
/usr/sbin/slibconfig: line 7:  3669 Segmentation fault  guile -c 
"(use-modules (ice-9 slib)) (require 'new-catalog)"
dpkg: error processing guile1.3 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gnucash:
 gnucash depends on guile1.3; however:
  Package guile1.3 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing gnucash (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 guile1.3
 gnucash
E: Sub-process returned an error code (1)

Anybody understand what's wrong?  I can't figure out why it's 
segfaulting :(

bekj

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Kick Bill's Butt

1999-08-06 Thread Alan Snider
Right now Linus Torvalds is #15 in Time Mag's Survey "person of the
centory", Bill Gates is #16  Kick Bill's Butt .. log in and vote for
Linus Torvalds at:

http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/time100/poc/century.html

Alan Snider


miror package in potato

1999-08-06 Thread Oz Dror
The potato mirror package is not up to date. 
apt-get insists on removing it becuase of dependency on perl
is this correct?

-Oz
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>




Re: what's the difference of netscape and navigator browser

1999-08-06 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 10:04:09PM -0500, Daniel Yang wrote:
> I looked around web browsers and found Netscape and Navigator. I don't what 
> is the difference between them. Eventually I installed Navigator, but I still 
> don't know if I installed the right one.
> Is there a document describing web browsers and configuration?

Netscape was a company that made two web browser products: Navigator and
Communicator. They were bought by AOL a while back. Navigator can only
view web pages, while Communicator can also do mail, news, web page editing,
etc.
-- 
Stephen Pitts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
webmaster - http://www.mschess.org


exim as MTA for a ppp machine how?

1999-08-06 Thread Britton

I have been trying to get exim to work correctly to send mail again.  When
I do mh-send and eventually C-c C-c from the emacs interface to nmh I get: 

  fsblk at aurora.alaska.edu: loses; [USER] 550 relaying to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator
post: 1 addressee undeliverable
send: message not delivered to anyone

which I assume is an error coming from my local MTA, which is exim.  I get
this even if I am not connected to my provider.

Does anyone have any idea what might be going on here?  I have begun to
RTFM for exim but it's about 30,000 lines.  

When I do:
 
mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] < test_file.txt 

I don't see an error message.  Any special place an error messages might
go?

Here is my exim.conf file:

# This is the main exim configuration file.
# It was originally generated by `eximconfig', part of the exim package
# distributed with Debian, but it may edited by the mail system administrator.
# This file originally generated by eximconfig at Mon Dec 14 16:30:19 AKST 1998
# See exim info section for details of the things that can be configured here.

# Please see the manual for a complete list
# of all the runtime configuration options that can be included in a
# configuration file.

# This file is divided into several parts, all but the last of which are
# terminated by a line containing the word "end". The parts must appear
# in the correct order, and all must be present (even if some of them are
# in fact empty). Blank lines, and lines starting with # are ignored.

##
#MAIN CONFIGURATION SETTINGS #
##

# Specify the domain you want to be added to all unqualified addresses
# here. Unqualified addresses are accepted only from local callers by
# default. See the receiver_unqualified_{hosts,nets} options if you want
# to permit unqualified addresses from remote sources. If this option is
# not set, the primary_hostname value is used for qualification.

# was: aurora.uaf.edu
qualify_domain = beleriand

# If you want unqualified recipient addresses to be qualified with a different
# domain to unqualified sender addresses, specify the recipient domain here.
# If this option is not set, the qualify_domain value is used.

# qualify_recipient =

# Specify your local domains as a colon-separated list here. If this option
# is not set (i.e. not mentioned in the configuration file), the
# qualify_recipient value is used as the only local domain. If you do not want
# to do any local deliveries, uncomment the following line, but do not supply
# any data for it. This sets local_domains to an empty string, which is not
# the same as not mentioning it at all. An empty string specifies that there
# are no local domains; not setting it at all causes the default value (the
# setting of qualify_recipient) to be used.

# was: uncommented
# local_domains = aurora.uaf.edu

# Allow mail addressed to our hostname, or to our IP address.

local_domains_include_host = true
local_domains_include_host_literals = true

# Domains we relay for; that is domains that aren't considered local but we 
# accept mail for them.

#relay_domains = 

# If this is uncommented, we accept and relay mail for all domains we are 
# in the DNS as an MX for.

#relay_domains_include_local_mx = true

# No local deliveries will ever be run under the uids of these users (a colon-
# separated list). An attempt to do so gets changed so that it runs under the
# uid of "nobody" instead. This is a paranoic safety catch. Note the default
# setting means you cannot deliver mail addressed to root as if it were a
# normal user. This isn't usually a problem, as most sites have an alias for
# root that redirects such mail to a human administrator.

never_users = root

# The setting below causes Exim to do a reverse DNS lookup on all incoming
# IP calls, in order to get the true host name. If you feel this is too
# expensive, you can specify the networks for which a lookup is done, or
# remove the setting entirely.

host_lookup_nets = 0.0.0.0/0

# Exim contains support for the Realtime Blocking List (RBL) that is being 
# maintained as part of the DNS. See http://maps.vix.com/rbl/ for background.
# Uncommenting the following line will make Exim reject mail from any
# host whose IP address is blacklisted in the RBL at maps.vix.com.

#rbl_domains = rbl.maps.vix.com
#rbl_reject_recipients = false
#rbl_warn_header = true

# The setting below locks out the use of your host as a mail relay by any
# other host. See the section of the manual entitled "Control of relaying" 
# for more info.

sender_host_reject_relay = *

# If you want Exim to support the "percent hack" for all your local domains,
# uncomment the following line. This is the feature by which mail addressed
# to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where z is one of your local domains) is locally 
rerouted to
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] and sent on

Warning: message 11CBIc-0005wT-00 delayed 24 hours

1999-08-06 Thread Mail Delivery System
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to all its recipients
after more than 24 hours on the queue on stout.mccorkle.home.

The message identifier is: 11CBIc-0005wT-00
The date of the message is:Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:18:12 +0200
The subject of the message is: Re: Formating a HD into VFAT

The address to which the message has not yet been delivered is:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for
some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message
remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up,
and when that happens, the message will be returned to you.


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