Re: Enmascarado de direcciones de correo.
Hola Antonio.
Yo lo tengo así:
- Por un lado, modifiqué el fichero /etc/smail/transports en su parte de
smtp, quedando así:
smtp: driver=tcpsmtp,
max_addrs=100, # limit on number of addresses
-max_chars,
inet, # use route-addr addresses for routing
remove_header=From,
insert_header=From: ${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/from}{$value}},
insert_header=Sender: ${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/from}{$value}};
use_bind, # resolve MX and multiple A records
defer_no_connect, # try again if the nameserver is down
-local_mx_okay, # fail an MX to the local host
defnames# use standard domain searching
Las lineas modificadas son el remove_header y las dos insert_header.
- Por otra parte, el fichero /etc/smail/maps/from contiene los mapeos
de direcciones (debes tener todos los usuarios locales susceptibles de
enviar correo hacia internet especificados ahí, si no el lookup del fichero
transports, fallará y quitará la cabecera from, pero no pondrá ninguna en
sustitución.
Este es mi fichero /etc/smail/maps/from:
rootAndres Seco Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
andres Andres Seco Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Saludos.
El 30 Nov 1999 a las 05:36PM +0100, Antonio Calvo escribio:
He tenido un ligero problemilla de burrez con mi disco duro,
lo he borrado para suprimir el w95 y he instalado slink desde 0, lo malo
es que con ello he perdido la
configuracion que tenia en el smail ( estuve probando exim pero me
fallaba y smail siempre se ha portado como un campeon).
Alguien recuerda como se hacia para que smail reescribiera las cabeceras
del correo saliente?
Se que era fozando por /etc/smail/routers pero de hay ya no paso.
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Antonio Calvo Rodriguez
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Vigo/Galicia/España
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Re: Me ha vuelto ha pasar
El viernes 03 de diciembre de 1999 a la(s) 22:05:01 +0100, Ricardo Villalba contaba: Precisamente por lo del /etc/issue deduzco que el disco duro se montó correctamente y que el init pudo leer ese fichero, pero por alguna circunstancia no siguió con la carga del resto de demonios o lo que sean. Quizás por alguna razón no leyera su fichero de configuración. Lo primero que hay que hacer es localizar el problema. Yo llenaría todos los archivos de /etc/init.d/ con líneas como: echo estamos aqui y la variable tal vale $TAL /home/user/boot-log ...o usando 'logger', para intentar saber si pasa algo, y en qué punto pasa. Alguna vez al apagar el ordenador he visto que aparecía un mensaje de error, pero no daba tiempo a leerlo porque era el último mensaje e inmediatamente se apagaba (y no se guarda en el log porque la partición ya estaba desmontada). Compila el núcleo sin soporte APM de forma que la pantalla se quede con un Power down. y puedas leer lo que sea. Luego al encender me decía que el /dev/hda3 era un filesystem with errors, me hacía el chequeo pero no me detectaba nada raro ni aparecía nada en el /lost+found. Pero yo creo que estas pequeños fallos en el filesystem deben ser normales y que a todo el mundo le pasará de vez en cuando ¿no? ¿Tras un shutdown correcto? No me ha pasado nunca. Tengo la debian 2.1 y el kernel 2.2.1 ¿debería actualizarlo? He leído que actualmente el núcleo más estable en temas de sistema de archivos es el 2.2.5. ¿Fallo mío? ¿del disco? ¿de la debian? o ¿del kernel? ¿Lo sabrá Mulder? ¿Podría ser también la memoria? [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano In love with TuX - Linux 2.2.13Linux Registered User #87069
Re: Freeze de Potato
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 10:04:56PM +0100, Ricardo Villalba wrote: ¿Qué pasó en el SIMO? Lo de siempre: Mucho Windows. Y muy poco Linux. Yo pensé que iba a palpar el cambio en el ambiente. Pero me topé con lo de siempre. Y no me hagáis recordarlo, que me vuelvo a encabronar :-) Bueno, pero es que hay que reconocer que para el usuario normal linux todavía está muy inmaduro, y mientras sea así pues es bastante lógico que no se le preste mucha atención a linux. Con lo de inmaduro para un usuario normal, lo que quiero decir es que un usuario normal (procedente de windows, y probablemente con pocos conocimientos de informática) lo que busca es algo sencillo de usar, tipo windows. Lo más parecido son el KDE y Gnome pero están todavía muy verdes y no abundan muchas aplicaciones para ellos y además las que hay comparadas con las de windows son flojillas. Je je je... Ayer mismo hablaba con Compaq en Madrid, y resulta que ellos mismos están usando Linux en sus instalaciones, por que está muy maduro, es super estable, muy flexible, etc, etc, etc... ¿Alguien da mas? (seguro) -- \|/ \|/ Have a nice day ;-) @'/ ,. \'@ TooManySecrets /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/
Re: Turbo Vision !!!
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Ismael Canales wrote: ¿ Recuerdas/conoces las Turbo Vision para dos, que incorporaban los compiladores de borland tp, tc, bcc ? Bueno pues estan portandose a linux por un particular, son de uso libre, estan en desarrollo avanzado diría yo. No es GPL pero pueden usase sin problemas... Errr... ya fueron portadas, por Salvador Eduardo Tropea. Respecto a la licencia, pues la biblioteca de funciones original de Borland fue puesta a disposición del dominio público hace tiempo. SET tras portarlas las sigue teniendo en ese estado. ¿ Que donde las pillas ? la Suse 6.2 la trae en uno de sus 6 CDs. ¿ En la red ? Pues ni idea, estuve buscando un dia para bajarme los src pero no llegué a ningun sitio. Desgraciadamente no tengo el enlace directo. Sin embargo, SET es ,aparte de quien portó la biblioteca, el creador del Setedit, el editor integrado del Rhide, y tiene un enlace al download de Turbo Vision para Linux en su página: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/setedit.html. Dame el toque si das con algun site oficial. Creo que eso y los mirrors de simtel son lo más oficial que puedes encontrar, ya que Borland (inprise) se desentiende de ese viejo código. Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gogosoftware - http://welcome.to/gogosoftware/ WinError 01F: Reserved for future mistakes of our developers.
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traducir para gnome
Hola a todos, ya estoy aquí otra vez. Estoy buscando la lista de correo de la traducción del gnome, se que es algo así como gnome-es, pero no se más. Es para intentar aportar mi granito de arena :) -- Salut desde Valencia ... tu prueba, prueba y verás; pero si no pruebas ciego estás.
Problemas al ejecutar KDE
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Modem vs chat. The End...
Bueno pues tampoco se traga el último comando hayes que me habeis pasado, en fin que le vamos a hacer, tampoco es tan malo alargar el brazo, reiniciar el modem... Saludos y muchas gracias a todos... Fdo: Ismael
Problemas al ejecutar KDE
Perdonar el mensaje de antes que lo mandé encriptado sin darme cuenta :P Aquí esta el mensaje: On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 09:39:33PM +0100, daniel wrote: Hola Acabo de instalarme las Kde 1.1.2 para probarlas y compruebo que si las ejecuto bajo root no tengo ningún problema. Si las ejecutaba con otro usuario apenas podía cargar aplicaciones y nada más arrancar me salía este mensaje del KFM: Could not create ~/.kde/share/apps/kfm/magic Para comprobar que leches pasa con los permisos voy hago un cd .kde cd share cd apps bash: cd: apps: Permission denied ¿Qué? Me encuentro este error hago un ls -gl y me sale esto: drwx--S---2 root users1024 Dec 4 21:08 applnk drwx--S---6 root users1024 Dec 4 21:11 apps drwx--S---2 root users1024 Dec 4 21:11 config drwx--S---3 root users1024 Dec 4 21:08 icons drwx--S---2 root users1024 Dec 4 21:08 mimelnk Está bien, supongo que cambiando el dueño de todos estos directorios a mi usuario podría cargar las aplicaciones y no tendría más problemas, en cualquier caso no tengo muy claro por qué tal y como kde ha puesto todo esto mi usuario no puede cargar las aplicaciones y demás a pesar de estar en el grupo users. Si alguien me da una pequeña explicación o pista se lo agradeceré. Un saludo -- Daniel Ferradal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usuario Registrado de Linux # 128322 http://pagina.de/tezra -- pgpAa8bfnbsh2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Problemas con xconsole
Hola Tengo un problema, arranco xconsole pero no me sale ningún mensaje y si la abro desde root me sale el mensaje Couldn't open xconsole. ¿Alguien tiene alguna idea de por qué me puede estar pasando esto? Gracias -- Daniel Ferradal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usuario Registrado de Linux # 128322 http://pagina.de/tezra pgpQ5apPGSnda.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: booting from an ext2 HD when Linux is on a second HD
To install Lilo in the MBR of the primary/master drive (/dev/hda), you need this line in your /etc/lilo.conf: boot=/dev/hda A minimum lilo.conf in your case (with no menu or boot prompt) might be: boot=/dev/hda root=/dev/hdb1 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map read-only image=/path/to/your/kernel Hope this gets you going... Tom Loren King wrote: A quick follow-up to my own query, with a bit more info. I wrote: I have two HD's, /dev/hda is the master, but Linux is installed on /dev/hdb. ... I can't seem to figure out how to get LILO to put the boot stuff on /dev/hda and then start up Linux on /dev/hdb. The partition info for my drives is as follows ... Master drive: Slave drive: /dev/hda1 ext240 MB/dev/hdb1 ext2 (root) 1800 MB /dev/hda2 ext2 300 MB/dev/hdb2 ext2 350 MB /dev/hdb3 Linux swap 50 MB Again, Linux is installed on /dev/hdb, and /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2 and /dev/hdb2 are mounted at various points. So far, I've tried copying the boot directory to /dev/hda, but when I specify root=/dev/hdb in lilo.conf, LILO gives me a warning: hdb not on first drive. It also seems to be writing the boot sector to hdb instead of hda, and nothing I do seems to change this. Thanks for any thoughts you might have.
Re: Outlook and HTML
*- On 3 Dec, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote about Re: Outlook and HTML On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:28:57AM -0500, Arcady Genkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Standard signature separator is -- with a blank following it. ^^ Actually, it's -- . Notice the trailing space. Mutt, slrn, and Netscape all do this correctly. I'm sure most other software does as well. To me the phrase '-- with a blank following it' is the same as -- . Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
RE: booting from an ext2 HD when Linux is on a second HD
Hi, Sorry to butt in here, but I'm a little unclear on this, and I'm having similar problems myself. To install Lilo in the MBR of the primary/master drive (/dev/hda), you need this line in your /etc/lilo.conf: boot=/dev/hda A minimum lilo.conf in your case (with no menu or boot prompt) might be: boot=/dev/hda root=/dev/hdb1 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map read-only image=/path/to/your/kernel Hope this gets you going... Do I just change /etc/lilo.conf? Or, do I change it and then run lilo? Is lilo automatically run because the /etc/lilo.conf file is modified? Thanks, Matthew Denson
Re: Outlook and HTML
Friday, December 03, 1999, 4:34:01 PM, Brian wrote: *- On 3 Dec, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote about Re: Outlook and HTML On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:28:57AM -0500, Arcady Genkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Standard signature separator is -- with a blank following it. Actually, it's -- . Notice the trailing space. Mutt, slrn, and Netscape all do this correctly. I'm sure most other software does as well. To me the phrase '-- with a blank following it' is the same as -- . Well, to be a total technical nitpicky prick, no, it doesn't. The complete sig delimiter is -- \n or dash dash space newline. Why do I point this out? Because DOS loves to have CR/NL and MAC CR. IIRC neither of those work as reliably as -- \n. :P -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Installing ps2 wheel mouse
Hi all, I just bought a wheel mouse for my system. I wasn't sure what I needed to do to change over from a serial mouse, so I reconfigured X. After that's all said and done (it works great in XF86Setup) and I start X and Window Maker comes up it goes crazy. I shut down X the hard way and I get this message: /dev/mouse unable to get status of mouse fd (inappropriate ioctl for device) Any ideas as to what else I need to do? TIA -- ) Mark Wagnon ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) ( Chula Vista, CA ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] (
Re: cfdisk table: unusable space??
El vie, 03 de dic de 1999, a las 03:43:39 -0600, Brad dijo: On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:11:05PM +0100, J Horacio MG wrote: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 *1 1080293+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda2 11 2080325 83 Linux native /dev/hda3 1000 1024 200812+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda4 21 999 7863817+ 5 Extended You've used up all your primary partitions, so it's impossible to create another partition out of that free space. You can't even expand the extended partition (hda4) to include that extra space, since there's another primary in the way (hda3). The only way to get use out of that space is to repartition. Thanks, but I already knew all that. In fact, /dev/hda2 is empty and is not being used at all, so I could use that one. But my question was different: when I first partitioned my disk, I left NO space without partitioning... so, what's that unusable space doing there? where did it come from? Regards, -- Horacio Anno MMDCCLII ad Urbe condita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valencia - ESPAÑA Key fingerprint = F4EE AE5E 2F01 0DB3 62F2 A9F4 AD31 7093 4233 7AE6
Re: Outlook and HTML
*- On 3 Dec, Steve Lamb wrote about Re: Outlook and HTML Friday, December 03, 1999, 4:34:01 PM, Brian wrote: *- On 3 Dec, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote about Re: Outlook and HTML On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:28:57AM -0500, Arcady Genkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Standard signature separator is -- with a blank following it. Actually, it's -- . Notice the trailing space. Mutt, slrn, and Netscape all do this correctly. I'm sure most other software does as well. To me the phrase '-- with a blank following it' is the same as -- . Well, to be a total technical nitpicky prick, no, it doesn't. The complete sig delimiter is -- \n or dash dash space newline. Why do I point this out? Because DOS loves to have CR/NL and MAC CR. IIRC neither of those work as reliably as -- \n. :P Well, to be a total nitpicky prick, I wasn't talking about the *correct* delimiter. I was talking about the equivalence of the two phrases. The '-- notice the space' phrase makes not reference to the line termination. The '-- with a blank following it' phrase makes no reference to the line termination. Thus *IMO* the two are the same. I do agree that the *correct* delimiter is dash dash space newline. Enough nitpicking for me, Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: Proposal: Source file package format
[The lists redhat-devel-list@redhat.com and gnome-list@gnome.org would not let me post to them. If you can, would you please forward this reply to those lists?] If people in the LSB are now interested in working with the GNU Project, that's a good thing. Starting with this basic willingness to cooperate, we may be able to do so. However, one problem may be hard to solve: the LSB is mainly dealing with issues at the operating system level--and is therefore in effect calling the GNU operating system Linux. Many of you are aware that the GNU Project objects to this. If you've heard about this from other people, you may have heard an inaccurate rendition of the reasons why; people who disagree and those who support us often oversimplify them. See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html for the real explanation, if you're interested. Referring to the Linux-based version of the GNU operating system as Linux was almost universal a few years ago (with some notable exceptions, including Debian). I'd expect that the people who started and named the LSB felt certain that Linux was the right name, and didn't mean any harm to the GNU Project by it. So I wouldn't blame them personally for this. But if they want to treat us right, they should change it. No matter how widespread or entrenched this error in naming may be, the GNU Project cannot accept it. It undermines our ability to spread the philosophy of Free Software that brought this system into existence, and that our community needs if it is to stay on the path to freedom. The error does not stop us from saying what we think, but it keeps the users unaware of why they might want to pay attention. We're making great efforts to ask people to call the combined system GNU/Linux, and having some success. (Just a few weeks ago, a New York Times reporter was able to persuade the editors to allow use of GNU/Linux for the first time.) We don't want to undermine that effort by joining an organization that calls the system Linux, or asking GNU developers to work on a project where our work on GNU will be presented under the name of Linux(*). Unfortunately, the LSB is doing just those things. We would be glad to work with the people in the LSB on this standardization project, if they in this project would acknowledge our role in developing the system, the way Debian does. * Cooperating with kernel developers is no problem. That program *is* Linux, so calling it Linux is proper.
Installation Procedure
Hi, I am a newie to DEBIAN. I have just installed a 'Dial Up' package but don't know the Boot via Floppy procedure. Could someone please fill me in on the details, thankyou: 1/ place floppy in drive; 2/ start computer; 3/ login to root; 4/ password; 5/ DEBIAN# (UNSURE WHAT COMMAND TO USE???); 6/ (HAVE NOT BEEN PAST 5/, SO ONLY IF REQUIREDAND SO ON 7/, 8/.. Please help anyone that can. Thankyou Simon (Australia)
Re: cfdisk table: unusable space??
On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 12:16:33AM +0100, J Horacio MG wrote: El vie, 03 de dic de 1999, a las 03:43:39 -0600, Brad dijo: On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:11:05PM +0100, J Horacio MG wrote: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 *1 1080293+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda2 11 2080325 83 Linux native /dev/hda3 1000 1024 200812+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda4 21 999 7863817+ 5 Extended You've used up all your primary partitions, so it's impossible to create another partition out of that free space. You can't even expand the extended partition (hda4) to include that extra space, since there's another primary in the way (hda3). The only way to get use out of that space is to repartition. Thanks, but I already knew all that. In fact, /dev/hda2 is empty and is not being used at all, so I could use that one. Note that that will still leave cylendars 11 through 20 unusable (unless you absorb them into another partition, by repartitioning or resizing (if you try to resize, be sure to back up in case something goes wrong)) But my question was different: when I first partitioned my disk, I left NO space without partitioning... so, what's that unusable space doing there? where did it come from? You never mentioned that in your original post. On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:11:05PM +0100, J Horacio MG wrote: fdisk reports at start: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1046. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) This may have something to do with it. Notice that the last partition ends at 1024, inplying that the unused space is that from 1025 to 1046. Possibly whatever utility you used to partition the disk refused to recognize any cylendars greater than 1024. Of course, this is just a guess, i could be wrong. -- finger for GPG public key. 29 Nov 1999 - new email address added to gpg key pgpx5pOQkmsaG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing ps2 wheel mouse
On 12/03/99 04:57PM, Mark Wagnon wrote: I just bought a wheel mouse for my system. I wasn't sure what I needed to do to change over from a serial mouse, so I reconfigured X. After Uh, scratch that. I'm a big dummy. Aparently my XF86Config file was getting saved under /root, so any changes I made weren't implemeted. All's well now... -- ) Mark Wagnon ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) ( Chula Vista, CA ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] (
Re: ppp hangups...
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:15:35PM -0500, Tom Allard wrote: According to the Changes file, (usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes), kernels after 2.2.11 needs a newer version of pppd: Yoink! Missed that! (I also noticed that it isn't in the known 2.2 problems on the web page). Oh well. :) Does anyone know of a packaged version closer to unstable's 2.3.10 for slink, or should I try and build it myself? Thanks! -Jonathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG public key available from http://www.jamdata.net/~jjlupa/gpg.asc pgp4TklYcXC8f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Linux Advocacy (dealing with 3com) (was: Re: Macromedia products for linux)
I'm dealing with much the same thing with 3com right now. I'm attempting to flash upgrade one of their 56k Sportster modems without having to go out and purchase a license for Windows 98. Unfortunately, I've gotten three different support people in their support department for four different email replys. Every single person replying to me suggested I connect the modem to a `PC running Windows 95 or 98' after being informed that I do not have access to such a machine. In my last email to 3com's support I asked to be connected with one specific person in their company who would have the authority to be helpful to Linux/UNIX users. Also, I stated that while their company might not be able to offer the same level of hand-holding ^Wautomated support to the Linux community than they to the MacOS and Windows communities, the Linux community would in general be more than happy to do their own support provided 3com met us halfway and offered full support for their own products regardless of the end-user's platform of choice. And yes, I did manage to sound a little bit angry (deliberately, and I hope I managed to stay politely angry) when I indicated that any practice of theirs which requires use or purchase of any specific OS would be considered unacceptable. That said, does anyone on this list happen to have any contacts inside 3com who might be helpful in getting the flash upgrade thing going? On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Tom Allard wrote: This is an email I recieved from macromedia after I asked them to support our OS. I think maybe if enough people show interest maybe we'll get flash for linux. Fire off and email to the address in the email please. I think you should read the Linux Advocacy mini-HOWTO. http://www.datasync.com/~rogerspl/Advocacy-HOWTO.html In the paragraph above, you are well-written seem very capable of a reasoned plea, but your message to macromedia sounds like a childish flame: Look man, I am a BIG fan for the whole vestored graphice thing. I think it rocks. Infact some of my favorite sites use vectored graphics made with and for your products. What really irks me though, is your lack of support for platforms other than that of Billy's Garbage. I am a Linux user and as such get the shaft when it comes to visiting sites made with Flash or whatever. I think it sucks and I think it's pretty sad that you don't support us. Just because we ar emainly an open source community doesn't mean we wouldn't pay for your software. Granted there isn't as many of us but sheesh, it's depressing that I'm cut off from alot of sites cuz I use Linux. For example, the HOWTO urges advocates to refer to another product by it's proper name. It's all fine-and-good on lists like this to talk about WinBlows and such, but telling someone outside the community that you don't like Billy's Garbage won't win you any converts. Think of it from *their* point-of-view: they've made millions writing software that works on Windows, so it's not such garbage to them... Read your message back to yourself, but change Linux to Windows, change Billy's Garbage to Open Source Crap and change the product to something not available in Windows. Think about how reading that would make you feel. Does it make you really want to work with this person and improve your product, or does it just make you defensive about your own product and even a little fearful of the sender?
Modprobe messages
I get the following two messages sometimes in the daemon log: modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ppp0 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-108 Potato/2.2.13 current updates system. Think I saw a reference to char-major-108 in an earlier post but could not find in archives. PPP is loaded in the kernel, not as a module. Any info appreciated. -- Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP KEYS D/H 0xB65DC61A RSA 0x935801A9
Troubleshooting X
I just blew away my box and re-installed. All went rather well, but when
I try to start X, I get this:
...
All the normal mode line stuffs
...
(--) SVGA: Mode 1800X1440 needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to unix/:-1
(--) SVGA: PCI: ATI Rage128 RF rev 0, Memory @ 0xe000, 0xde80, I/O @
0xd800
Using XFree86 ATI driver version 4.5.
Unknown graphics controller detected.
Unknown chip descriptor in BIOS: 0x3F3F.
Unknown video adapter detected.
Brooktree 476 or similar RAMDAC detected.
Support for this video adapter is highly experimental!
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
{0}:iggy:/home/nomaddpkg --list | grep xserver
ii xserver-common 3.3.5-1.99.sli files and utilities common to all X servers
ii xserver-mach64 3.3.5-1.99.sli X server for ATI Mach64-based graphics cards
ii xserver-s3 3.3.5-1.99.sli X server for S3 chipset-based graphics cards
ii xserver-svga3.3.5-1.99.sli X server for SVGA graphics cards
ii xserver-vga16 3.3.5-1.99.sli X server for VGA graphics cards
I'm using the XF86Config file I used under Redhat on this same system.
No I don't know what version of XF86 I was running with that, but it
was whatever was the most current.
Am I running the most current stable version? If now, how do I upgrade?
apt-get upgrade says there's nothing to upgrade.
Robert
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perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: What hardware is good for Debian servers?
if you go bp6 make sure to run a good amount of stress tests, my bp6 crashes constantly even with both cpus under 30C. a good stress test i find for a system is run between 8 and 10 copies of [EMAIL PROTECTED] for at least 24 hours. my box crashes after a few minutes. (even with ultra wide scsi drives and 256MB ram) myk6-2 366(o/c from 300) with 128mb had about 6 million disk writes but survived the 24hours w/o a hitch. nate On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, jchawk wrote: jchawk Enrico, I can give you some advise on the motherboard and such. jchawk If your talking bang for your buck, go with an A-bit BP-6. With dual jchawk celeron 366's (PPGA) overclocked to 550 MHZ. You can find your cpu's jchawk on ebay or somewhere similar pre-tested and guaranteed overclockable. jchawk Modem, I would go with a Us Robotics (which is now owned by 3com). jchawk jchawk You should be able to find both CPU's pretest (this is key) and the jchawk appropriate heatsinks for a total price of around:$168 or less, jchawk this price was one I received about a 5 weeks ago. So figure around jchawk $150 total. jchawk jchawk The A-bit BP-6 you should be able to pick up for $132 or less. jchawk jchawk I buy all my hardware from www.pricewatch.com, it is a listing of jchawk hardware dealers all over the country, I have yet to find cheaper jchawk prices anywhere on the internet or at a computer show. jchawk jchawk I along with a few of my friends run debian on these systems pretty jchawk similar to what you are looking to build. jchawk jchawk If you have any other questions, feel free to email me direct. jchawk jchawk -joe jchawk jchawk Enrico Zini wrote: jchawk jchawk Hello! jchawk jchawk I had many problems with Asus, and it was one of the brands people said to be jchawk good. During my quest to solve many of these problems, I discovered that Asus jchawk is likely to have problems, or just glitches, that make you loose time where jchawk you shouldn't. jchawk jchawk Now, since there are many servers to build and configure awaiting for us, I jchawk would like to build some knowledge on what to look for and what to try to jchawk avoid. jchawk jchawk So, suppose I ask you to build a fast and reliable Debian server, something jchawk that does file serving with samba, dials internet on demand via diald, spools a jchawk couple of printers, serves faxes via Hylafax, processes e-mail from, to and jchawk within the intranet and performs backups of what's on it. jchawk jchawk What brand and type of motherboard, raid controller, CPU, modem and backup jchawk system would you use, to be able to install Debian on it without risking to go jchawk mad after some hardware flaw? jchawk jchawk What are good brands of motherboards? Asus? Intel? Soyo? Tyan? MSI? VIA? jchawk Others? What are the ones to avoid like death? jchawk jchawk I'd also would like to find multiprocessor motherboards without expensive (and jchawk Debian unfriendly) Adaptec cards integrated on them, since high end servers are jchawk likely to mount a custom raid controller like the Mylex AcceleRAID and don't jchawk have a need for them. jchawk jchawk Is there some internet site where to look for this kind of informations? I jchawk would like to avoid marketing hype and read about tests and real experiences, jchawk possibly taking Linux and Debian into account. jchawk jchawk Read you soon! Enrico jchawk jchawk -- jchawk GPG public key available on finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] jchawk jchawk -- jchawk Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null jchawk jchawk jchawk -- jchawk Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null jchawk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 6:21pm up 106 days, 6:03, 1 user, load average: 1.33, 1.55, 1.60
Re: PDF wont work with Potato and Acrobat... Anyone?
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 11:05:21PM +1000, Alan Eugene Davis was heard to state: Is anyone using TeX/LaTeX to produce PDF? Can the PDF be understood by commonly available PDF readers? I run TeXLive, up to date, so My Milage May VaryTM). I cannot get anywhere. I have waited for a library chance (I have noticed with Debian over the past four years (+) that if I wait long enough, some bugs disappear with a package update). I've had a lot of luck with dvipdfm. As another poster mentioned, it used DVI files, but you can also use some tex tags, for example, to colour the document or add bookmarks to all of your LaTeX section headings. The output looks much nicer (IMHO) than pslatex, and I have tried it on server machines (both wintel and linux), with serveral versions of acroread, without any problems. dvipdmf is not in slink, but is in the potato teTeX packages (somewhere). Cheers, damon -- Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) / It's not a sense of humor. * Criminologist / It's a sense of irony * Webmeister / disguised as one. * Linux Geek / - Bruce Sterling
Re: Why
On 3/12/99 Evan Moore wrote: if your ever look at buying a new computer to put linux on you may look at buying an apple. the LinuxPPC group has declared their distribution to be the easiest to install version of linux. I installed it on my PowerMac 8600 with no problems. I would have to disagree with this... LinuxPPC uses the same installer Redhat uses, recently they made a X based installer but it was quite broken to begin with and fails far to often. (X based installers will always be unreliable IMO just because of the wildly differing video hardware) after linuxppc is installed you must be quite an expert to fix everything that is broken out of the box. (this is from R5, YMMV I don't know if they have fixed everything yet or not) examples: /dev/cdrom - /dev/cdrom missing .h files even with all *-devel packages installed, this makes compiling much of anything impossible. like emacs? Segmentation Fault shutdown -r now Kernel Panic and so on. the last time i saw so many seg faults on a un*x OS was when i tried running netbsd on a 68LC040 which lacks a math emulator... some of the problems are not really the fault of linuxppc, but just a symptom of the *development* status of the entire PPC port of GNU/Linux. The kernel is still very unstable on all of the newer machines, some older macs will have better results, but the newer ones are quite unstable. (note that I have never had a kernel panic on the i386 arch, so random panics when doing unremarkable things I consider to be `very unstable' this ain't windows where a crash here and there for no reason is ok) as far as I am concerned I tell people that running GNU/Linux on PPC is analogous to running the development kernels, it may work but do not expect it to be stable or usable. I still have not tried Debian for PPC yet, I hope that it has made a stable distribution, and I am at least confident that Debian will not release their PPC version into the stable tree until its really stable and usable, unlike linuxppc I am sorry to say. this is not a flame to linuxppc or the people working on it, its a very good start, but I cannot say it compares at all to stable i386 based distros, it still needs a lot of work. I just take issue with the idea that its currently a usable system to anyone but the most determined hacker. note my experience is on a `blueg3' which are of the newer variety of macs and have many more problems with PPC Linux then the older variety do. but when you go out and buy a new mac you get machines newer then mine and even less functional with linux then mine. Ethan
Mule for emacs20
Could anybody help me on getting mule to work for emacs20. I want to be able to read and write chinese characters, but everytime I get a BIG5 encoded e-mail, all the chinese characters come out as square boxes (under X). It works under Xemacs, but I would like to stay GNU. Any suggestions? I have task-chinese-s and task-chinese-t installed already. The first thing is being able to read chinese. Input I will worry about later. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Marshal
Re: Why
LinuxPPC uses the same installer Redhat uses, recently they made a X based installer but it was quite broken to begin with and fails far to often. (X based installers will always be unreliable IMO just because of the wildly differing video hardware) Now what makes Windows so incapable of having these same problems? I've never heard of anyone having trouble running the Win95 installer on a system that just had DOS because of video hardware. -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com Join AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ARD582
Sound and Corel
I am using the Corel distro (which is very nice, by the way), which was built on top of debian (not the best way to phrase it, but you get what I mean). But for some reason, I can't get sound to work. I run sndconfig and it detects my card and gives me the following: DKG-LINUX:/home/greedavk2# sndconfig sndconfig: Starting sound card installation... sndconfig: PnP probe result: Sound card found! Model: CS4236B sndconfig: Detected card info: IRQ = -1 DMA = -1 DMA2= -1 IO = 0x MPU-IO = 0x MPU-IRQ = 0x MEM = 0x Flag= 0x Module: Desc: BUS: 13 sndconfig: Sound card installation completed. sndconfig: Writing out detected info to /etc/devices... sndconfig: Done! Updating /etc/modules... Modifying /etc/isapnp.conf But I get no sound. And when trying to launch k-mixer I get the message that the sound card is busy or not working. Have any of you guys seen this? David attachment: winmail.dat
init not working
Greetings all, My /sbin/init is not respawning processes (like gettys), and not acknowledging /sbin/init q or similar things. Many processes are defunct and zombied but not actually closing. Also, this has happened before but I dismissed it because of something else I was screwing around with at the time. A little help? Sooner or later I'm not going to be able to fork processes. This can't keep happening. :-) Thanks, TomG pgpQt9tIEdiQx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why
On 3/12/99 Bart Szyszka wrote: Now what makes Windows so incapable of having these same problems? I've never heard of anyone having trouble running the Win95 installer on a system that just had DOS because of video hardware. shrug perhaps because win95 has a bazillion drivers? the generic X servers cover a pretty decent number of video cards, slowly, and at 640x480 with a 40hz refresh :-), dunno about you but I would prefer a console ncurses based installer to a huge headache. (well I prefer console based installs to pointy clicky installs anyway but maybe that's just me) most of the time the X based installs fail for me, I avoided the linuxppc one after a friend had it bork the install several times (unrelated to X itself but rather creating an inode for every 32K instead of 4 or 8, and pretending 80% of the packages did not exist so the resulting system was nonfuntional) and redhat's 6.1 X installer never loaded on my box when I took a look at it. Long live Debian GNU/Linux console based install ! :-) Ethan
Re: init not working
On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 03:33:14AM +, Tom Goulet wrote: Greetings all, My /sbin/init is not respawning processes (like gettys), and not acknowledging /sbin/init q or similar things. Many processes are defunct and zombied but not actually closing. Also, this has happened before but I dismissed it because of something else I was screwing around with at the time. A little help? Sooner or later I'm not going to be able to fork processes. This can't keep happening. :-) This looks like a kernel problem. What kernel version are you using? -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
USB Mouse
Hi, Are there any drivers or packages to make an USB mouse work with the Debian distribution? Thanks. Felix. President and CEO of MAD... ITS Visiting Scientist (Experimental Support for IT) _ F e l i xG u e r r e r o Application Developer ITS (Information Technology Services) IACC Building Room 246 North Dakota State University Fargo, ND 58105 Ph. Office: (701) 231 6284 Fax: (701) 231 8541
Re: init not working
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 10:34:53PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 03:33:14AM +, Tom Goulet wrote: Greetings all, My /sbin/init is not respawning processes (like gettys), and not acknowledging /sbin/init q or similar things. Many processes are defunct and zombied but not actually closing. Also, this has happened before but I dismissed it because of something else I was screwing around with at the time. A little help? Sooner or later I'm not going to be able to fork processes. This can't keep happening. :-) This looks like a kernel problem. What kernel version are you using? A home made 2.2.13, I'll see if I can't find my .config for it someplace. -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---' pgp7k46jzFxlg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: booting from an ext2 HD when Linux is on a second HD
Matthew Denson said: Do I just change /etc/lilo.conf? Or, do I change it and then run lilo? Is lilo automatically run because the /etc/lilo.conf file is modified? Nope, there's no process watching lilo.conf and running lilo whenever it gets changed. Any time you edit lilo.conf, you _always_ have to manually run lilo for the changes to take effect. -- Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv- b++ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: Mounting partition as /var/spool/mail
Patrick Kirk said: Is what I am trying to do possible and if so how have I messed up permissions, assuming that is what I've messed up? Oh, it's definitely possible... From my fstab: genma:/var/spool/mail /var/spool/mail nfs hard,intr,nosuid,noexec 0 0 Granted, that exact line won't work for you, since you're mounting a local filesystem instead of an NFS share, but it can be done... Check out man mount for info on how to control the permissions of the mounted directory. Specifically the --umask option. -- Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv- b++ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: Why
Bart Szyszka writes: Now what makes Windows so incapable of having these same problems? I've never heard of anyone having trouble running the Win95 installer on a system that just had DOS because of video hardware. Have you ever heard of a video hardware manufacturer that stayed in business more than 15 minutes selling hardware that didn't work perfectly with Windows? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: USB Mouse
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Hi, Are there any drivers or packages to make an USB mouse work with the Debian distribution? Packages: I doubt it. The drivers simply don't exist in the currently available Debian (it uses a 2.0.x kernel), and will never be available. Your best option for a USB mouse under Linux is to use a current development kernel (2.3.x) - they have the best support for USB. Just be aware that at the moment 2.3.x seems to be compile-error and crash prone. The current stable series (2.2.x) has experimental support for USB; mice and keyboards will work. Just don't expect anything else to :) If you have no alternative but to use a USB mouse, and are (for some reason unable) to upgrade from the 2.0.x kernel, you're out of luck with Linux, I'm sorry to say. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Re: USB Mouse
Your best option for a USB mouse under Linux is to use a current development kernel (2.3.x) - they have the best support for USB. Just be aware that at the moment 2.3.x seems to be compile-error and crash prone. The current stable series (2.2.x) has experimental support for USB; mice and keyboards will work. Just don't expect anything else to :) Out of curiosity I went looking for USB configuration under the menuconfig of 2.2.14-pre and couldn't find it. What section is it under? I have a new HP printer that is USB capable so I was curious about playing with it. Robert --- Robert L. Harris| A person is smart; Senior System Engineer |People are dumb, panicky RD Consulting. \_dangerous animals - Agent K http://www.rnd-consulting.com/~nomad DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: minicom
minicom followed by enter at the prompt. But you were probably tried that. What reports do you get? ---BeginMessage--- How do you start minicom? ---End Message---
How do I start Debian?
Hi, After I installed a Debian package, I rebooted. Now every time I reboot it ask to login, but when I do it goes to a command line (DEBIAN#). What do I type in here to get the X server working, or whatever to see the Desktop page of Debian Thankyou Simon
Re: Atari ST as Dumb Terminal
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, John Miskinis wrote: Hello David, I wish to connect my old Atari ST to my linux box running slink with a serial cable and use it basically as a dumb terminal. Could someone please point me in the direction of some useful documentation as to how to do this. Also does anyone know what software would be required on the Atari to be able to do this As far as software, there is a package called uniterm that was written by a fellow employee at DIGITAL many moons ago. At the time it was free to employees, but I believe he released it into the public domain, a few years later. It has full VT100, and even VT102 emulation, and can be configured in a multitude of ways. I used it all the time when telecommuting back then (in the good 'ole days). Thanks - I'll look into it In any case, if a web search does not turn up anything, I'm sure I can scrounge up a copy. I would prefer to make sure it's OK to distribute first, but I'm pretty sure it is out there on the web in a few places. If my memory serves me correct, .19 was the final version. Keep us posted, I've got some STs laying around, and I know at least one works, so I will probably be getting to this task myself soon. I'm not sure if a NULL modem will be necessary, I forget all that stuff. I believe the serial port on the ST is a MODEM port, which may have 2 signals switched from what a standard serial port on a linux box expects. I'm sure others can elaborate. I'd wait until someome confirms this. I do not believe it can cause any damage, it just won't work. But these days, I tend to take the safer route when experimenting with my hardware. I got it working quite nicely using the advice given in a previous response to my mail. I'm using what I think is a null modem cable (it was just advertised as a data transfer cable). I'm still hunting around for a terminal emulator though. It works with the basic vt52 emulator which came on the ST Language disk, but the vt52 terminal lacks the features to run pine, so it's of somewhat limited use. I also got results with kermit and a vt100 emulator called miniterm, which I downloaded from www.shareware.com. This is still not perfect, so I'll hunt around a bit longer. Also, somewhat off topic, there is an ST emulator called STONX (ST on X) which I also want to check out soon. I once wrote a small window system and Motif-like widget set layered on top of LINEA, and custom device drivers for the MIDI, mouse, and keyboard. It would be quite amazing if this could actually run on a linux box! Further off the topic: I've experimented extensively with ST emulation under win95 with excellent results. I did try to install STONX on one of the university servers, but I didn't have sufficient rights to get it to go. Some good resources on ST emulation on all platforms can be found at www.lgd.fatal-design.com and www.atari.org I'll probably eventually get around to trying STONX on my linux box as well. David Purton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to block access from specific sites.
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 05:08:33PM -0700, Raphael Clancy wrote: Is there a quick way (on a debian 2.0 system) to block specific adresses from making inetd style connections (ie. ftp, telnet etc?) my instincts tell me that is has to do with the /etc/hosts.deny file. unfortunately I can't find any info on it in the man pages, of course, some of mine may be missing (gotta love getting other people's boxes). Along with all the other responses, you might look into the xinetd package. xinetd allows you the allow/deny specific services to specific hosts/networks, and let others through. -- Larry -- Larry Clapp / hm: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great Southern Oxymorons: Grits connoisseur
Re: USB Mouse
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Out of curiosity I went looking for USB configuration under the menuconfig of 2.2.14-pre and couldn't find it. What section is it under? I have a new HP printer that is USB capable so I was curious about playing with it. You need to uncomment the line # source drivers/usb/Config.in in linux/arch/i386/config.in (roughly line #175 on my 2.2.13 kernel tree) before you can do much with USB. I guess I didn't say just how experimental it is... If you want to use a printer, I would strongly recommend you use a 2.3 series kernel - it has _much_ better USB support. I would hunt (or ask :)) around as to which one most people have had success with - at the moment 2.3 seems to be suffering from a lot of hangups and compile errors (I track linux-kernel through the mailing list archives). -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Re: How do I start Debian?
You probably didn't configure your X. run XF86Setup and configure it. you have to execute the following command before you do it: killall xdm On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 02:56:00PM +1000, simon_robertson wrote: Hi, After I installed a Debian package, I rebooted. Now every time I reboot it ask to login, but when I do it goes to a command line (DEBIAN#). What do I type in here to get the X server working, or whatever to see the Desktop page of Debian Thankyou Simon -- Marcin Kurc Indiana Institute of Technology System Administrator http://me.indtech.edu http://www.indtech.edu
Finding old potato packages (downgrading libpng2)
I need to downgrade libpng2 from the current 1.0.5 in potato to the older 1.0.3 (which I believe will fix a problem with pdflatex in tetex-bin - Debian bug #49834). Where do I find old version of deb packages? Cheers, Graham
Re: [off-topic] MS Outlook
Bart Szyszka wrote: IMO, [Outlook 2000 is] significantly better (as is the Office 2k suite entirely, IMO) in performance and features. Except that Office 2000's setup installs IE and Outlook [Express] even if you don't want them. You can do a minimal install of them, and you can even uninstall them afterwards, but if you do uninstall them Access will no longer work. Too Borg-ian for me, thank you.
swap usage in 2.2.13
Hi, List, I know I saw a discussion of this somewhere; maybe even here. Why does 2.2.13 allocate so darn much swap? I'd been gone for a week, came home, unlocked xlock, and the silly thing swapped for at least 30 seconds (it felt like a lt longer, but I didn't time it, so I'll try not to exaggerate) reading I-know-not-what back into memory. As I type, top(1) shows XF86_S3 using 5752K of RSS, and *192M* (!!!) of swap usage. (Okay, maybe I-DO-know-what. ;) Why why why? Does XFree86 3.3.5 have a memory leak, perhaps? It certainly never did this before I upgraded to potato (running XF86 3.3.3, back then). Any help appreciated! -- Larry -- Larry Clapp / hm: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great Southern Oxymorons: Grits connoisseur
RE: How do I start Debian?
On 04-Dec-1999 simon_robertson wrote: Hi, After I installed a Debian package, I rebooted. Now every time I reboot it ask to login, but when I do it goes to a command line (DEBIAN#). What do I type in here to get the X server working, or whatever to see the Desktop page of Debian try 'startx', assuming you installed a window manager and the server. -- Andrew
Re: [off-topic] MS Outlook
Keith == Keith G Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Keith I just checked out Outlook98, by sending and replying to Keith messages to myself, and apparently it does not provide Keith References headers. It does do threading of a sort, Keith apparently by the subject line (with RE:). Actually, NS Keith Messenger will thread this way too, when no References Keith header is available. Outlook98, as well as not providing Keith References, also ignores References: I can send a reply Keith from NS Messenger, which provides the Reference header, Keith with a different subject line, and Outlook does not Keith recognize it as belonging to the same thread (well, MS Keith calls it Conversation). Pauls response to your message has: References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 So, while the References doesn't contain more then one, it still does have a references header. This is what I (should) have on this mail (Gnus): References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't understand why Paul's setup works, when most of the time it doesn't... Or perhaps my mail2news gateway is adding the reference header? That seems extremely unlikely to me though. I don't think the gateway has enough information to do it. That message had the following id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith You could make an argument that threading by subject only Keith is OK, since when subject lines are changed, that often Keith means the writer is wanting to start a new thread; under Keith Netscape, with no direct access to headers, he could not do Keith it. Under Pine, etc., I guess you can. Threading by subject makes it hard to do certain actions, eg get all messages this one references, or highlight all responses to particular message. At least, both of these are possible with Gnus. Keith It is certainly inexcusable for Outlook to ignore Keith References, as well as not give any option for providing Keith them. MS is the only company I know of that wants their Keith stuff to not interoperate with others'. But NS should at Keith least give you a Terminate Thread option on reply that Keith would clear out the Reference headers. Agreed. Not only that, but outlook by default has a non-standard mechanism for quoting messages (as mentioned elsewhere). Often I get replies from people who just insert their text within my text, and I tend to miss it. Yuck. Not to mention replying to it... As for terminating threads, Gnus has an option to treat a different subject line as a new thread. This is without removing the references heading, so people can still refer to the original message, as required. So... people really need to remember to change the subject line if the topic changes (like I did with this thread). -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for right ISP
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 09:39:50PM -0600, Daniel Yang wrote: Eventually, I made my web server and my own domain (www.mydomain.com) running, but my ISP, mindspring told me that I am not allowed to run a web server through a dialup account and they can't do anything for me if I want to run my own server. Then I have to look for a new ISP who provides such service and not expensively. Any ideas and recommendations? If you just need web hosting, I've been pretty happy with CubeSoft (http://www.csoft.net). You get, among other things, your own full remote shell account. I could (and did) download the source to mutt, compile it, and run it there instead of pine. THIS really surprised me, as I haven't seen it *anywhere* else: you get your own *crontab*. You get unlimited network usage, unlimited HTML files, and 50meg of binary file space for $15/month. They have other packages for less, and other packages for more. They do co-location, too, but you might be just as happy with one of their other packages. (I am not affiliated with CubeSoft other than by way of being a satisfied customer.) -- Larry -- Larry Clapp / hm: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great Southern Oxymorons: Grits connoisseur
want to download mac vers.
Hi, I would like to ftp debian for mac but can't seem to get in with out a password and login, if i have to pay I will ...
Switch /hdb for /hda?
I have been having problems with my hard drive with Slink on it putting
out the following errors and hanging:
Dec 3 22:14:14 xyf kernel: hdb: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
Dec 3 22:14:14 xyf kernel: ide0: reset: success
Dec 3 22:14:24 xyf kernel: hdb: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
Dec 3 22:14:24 xyf kernel: ide0: reset: success
I've posted about this before and see there is lots of info about these
errors. I've checked cables and so on. I had this problem with another
HD and replaced with this brand new one. I don't have any trouble with
my Windows side so I was thinking I could try to swith the two HDs to
see if I could get the HD with Slink on it to work better. My HD with
Windows on it is hda the master drive. Slink is on the slave drive
hdb. They are both on the same cable. My question is how do I swap the
HDs on the cable so Slink would be hda and windows hdb? In other words
how do I get my system to boot directly off hda (which it does now) but
boot the Slink drive? What do I have to do to the Slink drive before I
switch them physically? Here is my /etc/lilo.conf
boot = /dev/hda
delay = 50
image = /vmlinuz
root = /dev/hdb1
label = slink
other = /dev/hda1
label = 95
table = /dev/hda
Thanks,
kent
Re: What hardware is good for Debian servers?
We use Asus motherboards on virtually all of the multiprocessor systems we build. The reasons are simple. Excellent quality, reliability, flexibility, and customer service. -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: Nile VIA VT86C916 NIC
First I should point out that I am not absolutely sure that my NIC has the VIA
VT86C916 Nile chip.
I am attaching fet916.c, which is on the diskette that I got with my NIC.
Although I couldn't get the attached fet916.c to work (not even to compile),
I managed to get the NIC to work with the ne module. Except for a problem when
booting the PC, this module works. Perhaps you will give it a try.
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Sorry i know this is stupid but im looking for drivers to
my network component (Nile VIA VT86C916)
it was given to me for free i cant find drivers
(i have only the hardware)
Can u help me ?
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It's (usually) much quicker searching the kernel documentation
(if installed) or failing that, a search engine. Although, worryingly,
I couldn't find any references in the kernel. Perhaps its a clone of
a more well-known chip set.
The search engine www.google.com lists 4 links - 1 broken link, 1
english
text regarding linux ethernet drivers, 1 in Japanese and one FTP
directory
containing (presumably) the DOS driver. The linux link contains a
broken
link to a file 86c916.c - perhaps you could mail the author.
My advice would be to plug it in and see what happens. If it's a PCI
card, the BIOS should report its vendor and device numbers. If it's
ISA PnP, then I think pnpdump should give you similar info.
It would also be appreciated if your subject line was a bit more
verbose than ? - it's a high volume list ;)
Good luck.
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/* ne.c: A general non-shared-memory NS8390 ethernet driver for linux. */
/*
Written 1992-94 by Donald Becker.
Copyright 1993 United States Government as represented by the
Director, National Security Agency.
This software may be used and distributed according to the terms
of the GNU Public License, incorporated herein by reference.
The author may be reached as [EMAIL PROTECTED], or C/O
Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences
Code 930.5, Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt MD 20771
This driver should work with many programmed-I/O 8390-based ethernet
boards. Currently it supports the NE1000, NE2000, many clones,
and some Cabletron products.
Changelog:
Paul Gortmaker : use ENISR_RDC to monitor Tx PIO uploads, made
sanity checks and bad clone support optional.
Paul Gortmaker : new reset code, reset card after probe at boot.
Paul Gortmaker : multiple card support for module users.
Paul Gortmaker : Support for PCI ne2k clones, similar to lance.c
Paul Gortmaker : Allow users with bad cards to avoid full probe.
*/
/* Routines for the NatSemi-based designs (NE[12]000). */
static const char *version =
916.c:VIA Technologies Inc. 10BaseT Linux driver v1.0 \n;
#include linux/module.h
#include linux/config.h
#include linux/kernel.h
#include linux/sched.h
#include linux/errno.h
#include linux/pci.h
#include linux/bios32.h
#include asm/system.h
#include asm/io.h
#include linux/netdevice.h
#include linux/etherdevice.h
#include linux/if_ether.h
#include linux/ioport.h
#include linux/skbuff.h
/*#include 8390.h*/
#define TX_2X_PAGES 12
#define TX_1X_PAGES 6
/* Should always use two Tx slots to get back-to-back transmits. */
#define EI_PINGPONG
#ifdef EI_PINGPONG
#define TX_PAGES TX_2X_PAGES
#else
#define TX_PAGES TX_1X_PAGES
#endif
#define ETHER_ADDR_LEN 6
/* The 8390 specific per-packet-header format. */
struct e8390_pkt_hdr {
unsigned char status; /* status */
unsigned char next; /* pointer to next packet. */
unsigned short count; /* header + packet length in bytes */
};
/* From 8390.c */
int ei_debug;
struct sigaction ei_sigaction;
int ethif_init(struct device *dev);
int ethdev_init(struct device *dev);
void NS8390_init(struct device *dev, int startp);
int ei_open(struct device *dev);
int ei_close(struct device *dev);
void ei_interrupt(int irq, void *dev_id, struct pt_regs *regs);
#ifndef HAVE_AUTOIRQ
/* From auto_irq.c */
struct device *irq2dev_map[16];
int autoirq_setup(int waittime);
int autoirq_report(int waittime);
#endif
/* Most of these entries should be in 'struct device' (or most of the
things in there should be here!) */
/* You have one of these per-board */
struct ei_device {
const char *name;
void (*reset_8390)(struct device *);
void (*get_8390_hdr)(struct device *, struct e8390_pkt_hdr *, int);
void (*block_output)(struct device *, int, const unsigned char *, int);
void (*block_input)(struct device *, int, struct sk_buff *, int);
unsigned open:1;
unsigned word16:1; /* We have the 16-bit (vs 8-bit) version of the card. */
unsigned txing:1; /* Transmit Active */
unsigned irqlock:1; /* 8390's intrs disabled when '1'. */
unsigned dmaing:1; /* Remote DMA Active */
unsigned char tx_start_page, rx_start_page,
mkfs.msdos?
hello in which debian package can i found the mkfs.msdos file system builder ? thanks a lot
Re: Why
Brigette Heffner wrote:
Why is it so hard to get anywhere with Linux?
Using Linux is like any new venture, there is a learning curve, that is
essential. If you are unwilling to spend some time developing skills,
you will not be successful
In plain English...how do I get help with the install?
If you are using Debian GNU/Linux then you have already found the best
assistance available, right here!
Is there a book (written in HUMAN English) that I can buy?
I firmly recommend Running Linux third edition as a starter, and all
of their books as you begin to excel at the skills necessary to use
Linux and other possible areas, such as Perl.
I have read all kinds
of how to's and I am missing something because I have tried to
install THREE versions of Linux and can't get any to work (on my new
$2300 paperweight of a laptop).
The fact that you are attempting to install on a laptop as a beginner is
very ambitious. That is a daunting task for even the most experienced
users. I strongly urge you to get hands on help from a local guru or a
users group. Most of us are very willing to help.
Just tell me what to do...or should I buy windows 98 and forget it?
That is totally determined by what you want to accomplish with the
operating system that you settle on. If you want to simply plug and
chug, and have no endeavors beyond e-mail, word processing, and web
surfing: it really does not matter--choose the easiest solution to
getting up and running. If on the other hand you want to have access to
more {FREE} software (and growing daily), than is available for any
other type of system, then GNU/Linux is your best bet.
The laptop has no operating system...now.
The key to help here is SPECIFICS; Tell us about your machine, in
detail. Tell us what type of Linux you are trying to install, and what
is the distribution media --- CD, floppies,???
As you can see we are betting on Debian GNU/Linux as our choice for the
next Millennium!
Good Luck!
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Re: mkfs.msdos?
On 4/12/99 luis wrote: in which debian package can i found the mkfs.msdos file system builder ? thanks a lot apt-get install dosfstools -- Ethan Benson To obtain my PGP key: http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/pgp/
Small problems from recent Potato upgrade
I just upgraded a very stable pure Slink system to Potato and I have a few legacy problems ( I think)! Emacs is stuck--won't install or be purged-no dependencies unaccounted for. Sound (OSS commercial) is installed but none of the Gnome sound effects work. Players, mixers, etc all OK. For some reason Enlightenment is set as the default and the Gnome control panel will not change it. Yes I told it to write to the config files, during installation, but they seem to be in the /home/user directory, as root is OK. Enlightenment is pretty much improved, but I can not figure out how to keep the menus from jumping off the screen and killing themselves, when I try to open the Menu selections that are longer than the screen is tall.. Everything else seems to be working OK and I am very impressed with the imprivements. I had no probs with Netscape 4.7, Staroffice 5.1a or WP8 though I did expect them. Thanks! -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
mbr ?
hello how can i install a sort of mbr that runs before lilo ? because after having instaled debian i need to install a dos partition, but as hda1 is the swap, hda2 linux and hda3 is dos, lilo can not load the last partition (far beyong the 1024 kbytes limit) so, is possible to boot the dos partition without repartitioning now the disk? thanks a lot
isapnp problems?
Sorry for the legth of this one. I`m using potato and a 2.2.13 kernel. I`ve had a working modem for ages under slink, but a floppy and an ethernet card that refused to work because of irq and io errors so last night I tried to sort it out finally. It seems that pnpdump --config had grabbed the floppy`s irq for the modem so I just did a fresh pnpdump without uncommenting isapnp.conf and the floppy worked fine. However when I tried to reconfigure the modem it only gave me the option of irq3 which didn`t work or irq5 which was taken by the network card. After a lot of reading and teeth gnashing I gave up and removed the ethernet card as it is unessential so as to put the modem back on irq5 where it always was before. Now on boot isapnp tells me that that there`s a fatal error trying to check the io because it`s already in use but the modem works fine. Is the kernel already doing isapnp`s job and if so can I get rid of isapnp altogether or am I misunderstanding something again. :-) Thanks Paul -- Paul Walton * Powered by * Cambridge* Debian GNU Linux * U.K. * http://www.debian.org * * PGP Public Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/ * pgpyKqeCHpID9.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: What hardware is good for Debian servers?
We use Asus motherboards on virtually all of the multiprocessor systems we build. The reasons are simple. Excellent quality, reliability, flexibility, and customer service. Please go to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus. I am not saying they are unacceptable. I have an Asus board. I am just saying there are many frustrated people. Given Asus popularity, the posters may be an extremely small segment. Many have openly complained about support... I am not sure any other boards are better ... -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: mbr ?
On 4/12/99 luis wrote: how can i install a sort of mbr that runs before lilo ? because after having instaled debian i need to install a dos partition, but as hda1 is the swap, hda2 linux and hda3 is dos, lilo can not load the last partition (far beyong the 1024 kbytes limit) if LILO won't boot it (really your BIOS is more the problem then LILO i think) then the cheesy DOS MBR sure won't do it either. so, is possible to boot the dos partition without repartitioning now the disk? probably not. you might be able to get another boot loader that essentially loads a full BIOS independent secondary loader that can load the DOS partition, but other then that your pretty much SOL. the only thing I could suggest is to change your swap partition to type dos and your dos partition to type swap, run mkswap correct /etc/fstab, zero out the new dos partition (where swap was) run mkdosfs on it and install dos there, then lilo will work fine. this may or may not be acceptable given the sizes of those partitions... -- Ethan Benson To obtain my PGP key: http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/pgp/
Re: Modprobe messages
I get the following two messages sometimes in the daemon log: modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ppp0 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-108 after creating char-major-108 in /dev. alias ppp ppp_generic alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async alias char-major-108 ppp_generic Save and run 'update-modules'. Tried the above as well as alias char-major-108 ppp with no help. It produces these messages when pon is used to dial my isp. All works fine but just get the char-major-108 error each time pon is run. The note on module.conf is annoying as well BUT as long as it works. -- Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP KEYS D/H 0xB65DC61A RSA 0x935801A9
Device drivers on installation
This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by Howard Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be sure to reply to that address. Hi, I am going to install Debian from a CD using my ATAPI/IDE CD-ROM. I am switching from Red Hat. In the ``Configure Device Driver Modules'' section of the installation instructions, there is the following: You don't have to configure all your devices at this point; what is crucial is that any device configuration required for the installation of the base system is done here...This includes ethernet drivers Thus, I will configure support/modules for my Ethernet card. ( I will use the eth interface soon after installation to get other packages from Internet servers using apt-get) I do not need a module for my CD-ROM per se. Do I need to stipulate module support for the iso9660 file system during this step? What other modules _will_ I need to configure at this point? I know I can configure others after installation using modconf. Using Red Hat, module support for many devices, file systems etc. is configured by default in the stock kernel that comes with a particular version. I can determine this by perusing a defconfig file in the sources directory.These modules are loaded as necessary by the kerneld daemon. How do I determine this for Debian ? For example,will I have to subsequently configure module support for dos/fat/vfat to read my Windows partition? I hope my questions make sense. I am confused about this aspect of the installation process vs that for Red Hat. Thanks, Howard Mann. Geocrawler.com - The Knowledge Archive
Simple DNS/ppp
This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by Gavin Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be sure to reply to that address. I'm very new to Linux, and I have been trying to do a slink install via ftp. Currently I have installed the slink kernel. When I go to connect useing pon, it connects alright and everything. I'm using PAP. After authentication and getting assigned an IP, I try to ftp ftp://ftp.debian.org. After a long try, I get a host name lookup failure. This happens with all servers I try to connect to. When I ping, I get 100% loss. I suspect somthing's wrong with DNS, but to my knowledge my nameserver IP's are fine. Gavin Rogers Geocrawler.com - The Knowledge Archive
Re: Why
Brigette Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just tell me what to do...or should I buy windows 98 and forget it? The laptop has no operating system...now. Well, you posted this Friday afternoon and got thirteen replies (including braindead recommendations such as get Corel), none of which you appear to have responded to, at least on this list. So I would venture the answer is: buy windows 98. And just between you and I, that was the answer all along, yes? -- Bob Bernsteinhttp://members.home.net/ruptured-duck at Esmond, R.I., USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RMS's curmudgeon-like griping that he didn't like the term Open Source looked silly to many last year; it's not looking so dumb today... Christopher B. Browne
I didn't mean to offend
Ok, this is me...the one who posted Why... I didn't mean to offend anyone...(everyone). I really want to use Linux and It's making me nuts. We have it a school and I love it. I have an ARM laptop with an AMD K6-3 450 Mhz processor, 196 MB RAM, 10 GB Hard Disk, 14.1 TFT XGA , ATI video with 4MB memory, Phoenix BIOS, and standart CDRom and Floppy. I have Mandrake, Debian 2.1, and Slackware 7 to choose from. I can boot from CD. Mandrake: does good until the end, can't config video. Slackware: Has a keyboard problem and hits a loop after booting the kernal. Debian: Didn't go there yet. Thanks for all the help Brigette
Re: Why
John Hasler wrote: Have you ever heard of a video hardware manufacturer that stayed in business more than 15 minutes selling hardware that didn't work perfectly with Windows? Yes I know. ATI. My friend has Rage 128 graphics card. In Linux it works perfectly (using Suse X server), but in Windows there are still problems with some CAD programs. -- _ Hasso Tepper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: isapnp problems?
You may want to remove the (CHECK) from the end of the lines which configure the IO addresses. If you could send me the error messages, I could tell you for sure. Actually, you're whole isapnp.conf file would be helpful too. Marshal From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: isapnp problems? Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 08:56:36 + Sorry for the legth of this one. I`m using potato and a 2.2.13 kernel. I`ve had a working modem for ages under slink, but a floppy and an ethernet card that refused to work because of irq and io errors so last night I tried to sort it out finally. It seems that pnpdump --config had grabbed the floppy`s irq for the modem so I just did a fresh pnpdump without uncommenting isapnp.conf and the floppy worked fine. However when I tried to reconfigure the modem it only gave me the option of irq3 which didn`t work or irq5 which was taken by the network card. After a lot of reading and teeth gnashing I gave up and removed the ethernet card as it is unessential so as to put the modem back on irq5 where it always was before. Now on boot isapnp tells me that that there`s a fatal error trying to check the io because it`s already in use but the modem works fine. Is the kernel already doing isapnp`s job and if so can I get rid of isapnp altogether or am I misunderstanding something again. :-) Thanks Paul -- Paul Walton * Powered by * Cambridge* Debian GNU Linux * U.K. * http://www.debian.org * * PGP Public Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/ *
Re: I didn't mean to offend
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/04/99 at 10:13 AM, Brigette Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ok, this is me...the one who posted Why... I didn't mean to offend anyone...(everyone). I really want to use Linux and It's making me nuts. We have it a school and I love it. Hi, Brigette, I didn't read the original post or follow the thread that ensued. I've found this crowd to often be helpful, but sometimes they come across as being quite aloof or blind to the issues that newcomers have with Linux (or Unix in general). I hope that whatever was said didn't simply blow you out of the water. I've had to wade through a number of disappointing posts myself to stay afloat. Unfortunately I'm not a laptop guru (or a Linux guru, for that matter), so I can't help you with your issues. I expect someone out there will, though. Keep at it. Another thought is... is there someone at your school who could help? If they use it then someone there may be able to help. (Bravo to them, BTW, for doing so... wish I were so lucky at MY school!) Kenward Dr. Kenward Vaughan .'^~;,_ Professor of Chemistry':,'~ Bakersfield College \;:/ 1801 Panorama Drive |,;| Bakersfield, CA 93305 / ', \ 661-395-4243/ o O \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) (oOoOOoOo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) ------ ???$$???
Re: Simple DNS/ppp
To test DNS, instead of ping the domain name, try to ping its ip address. If you fail in pinging ip address also, There must be something worng with pon. Daniel -Original Message- From: Gavin Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, December 04, 1999 8:44 AM Subject: Simple DNS/ppp This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by Gavin Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be sure to reply to that address. I'm very new to Linux, and I have been trying to do a slink install via ftp. Currently I have installed the slink kernel. When I go to connect useing pon, it connects alright and everything. I'm using PAP. After authentication and getting assigned an IP, I try to ftp ftp://ftp.debian.org. After a long try, I get a host name lookup failure. This happens with all servers I try to connect to. When I ping, I get 100% loss. I suspect somthing's wrong with DNS, but to my knowledge my nameserver IP's are fine. Gavin Rogers Geocrawler.com - The Knowledge Archive -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Bold using docbook and other problems
Hi, I am currently using the sgmltools2 package from Debian, and the corresponding latest and greatest docbook packages from Debian Potato. However, I cant seem to get a few basic things to work the way I want it to. My reading of the docbook documentation suggests that the way to get the bold effect when converted to html is to use the emphasis tag with a role of bold or strong. This I do by emphasis role=bold /emphasis but the result that I get in html is still in italics - which is no different than what I get with plain emphasis tags. What is the correct way to do this. The actual problem that I am trying to solve is to have the following text Example n--- formatted in bold (in html) some blurb --- ordinary emphasis some code listed --- am using the programlisting tags some more blurbs --- ordinary emphasis Here is what I tried : exampletitle/titleprogramlisting/programlisting/example parasome blurb programlistingsome code listed/programlisting parasome more blurbs What I get in html is Example n -- in bold some blurb -- ordinary text some code listed-- formatted exactly as typed some more blurbs-- ordinary text Here are some problems as I see it : 1) The programlisting tags are supposed to preserve all whitespace according to the documentation. However, it seems to skip tabs. As a result, I've had to convert all tab characters to an equivalent number of spaces in the sgml text. 2) The docs indicate for the example tags that the title tags are mandatory. However, they do not state that the programlisting tags are mandatory, whereas the sgmltools converters treat this as a mandatory child for example. 3) Note that there is an extra blank line between the Example n title and the blurb that follows. How can I get rid of it? Thanks in advance, Jor-el Ain't that something what happened today. One of us got traded to Kansas City. -- Casey Stengel, informing outfielder Bob Cerv he'd been traded.
debianized mars-nwe?
hi all...
I'm moving a friend's Red Hat Linux box over to Debian. He was
running the NetWare server emulator package 'mars-nwe' on RH. Now I
need to reinstall it on Debian. I can't find mars-nwe as a .deb. Is
it available? If so, where and what is the package name?
Thanks for the help.
bob
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running programs as another user from menu
Got a strange question... is there a way to add a program to the menu in kde but run as another user? I'm considering setting up a portion of my mailing lists to go to a separate user account on my home computer so that I can have two pine sessions running at the same time, one for my 'regular' mail and one for this subset of mailing lists. Is there a way I can set up a menu item that access pine from that user's point of view while being logged in as my 'default' user? Or is the only way for me to do this to open up a konsole window, telnet to localhost, log in as that user and _then_ start pine? Alice M. pinard Casco Indemnity Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message sent using EMUmail -- http://www.emumail.com - HTML font face=arial,helvetica size=2 Attention BPDA Users/B: Get your existing email from your Palm VIIBR with HoboMail.com. You're free to roam with HoboMail.BR P http://www.hobomail.com img src=http://ad.vert.net/hm.cgi?991031;/font /HTML
Re: running programs as another user from menu
On Sat, 04 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a strange question... is there a way to add a program to the menu in kde but run as another user? I'm considering setting up a portion of my mailing lists to go to a separate user account on my home computer so that I can have two pine sessions running at the same time, one for my 'regular' mail and one for this subset of mailing lists. Is there a way I can set up a menu item that access pine from that user's point of view while being logged in as my 'default' user? Or is the only way for me to do this to open up a konsole window, telnet to localhost, log in as that user and _then_ start pine? You could use ssh and have the command be something like: ssh -t -l user2 localhost pine Then all you have to do is type in your password for user2. -- Ashley Clark
[no subject]
Making a little progress here. Many thanks to John Pearson for the most recent increment. Next: 1. Not sure whether my installation completed. I was looking at someone's comments about editing a file in /usr/src/linux, so I tried to go there. But I dont seem to have any such directory. Heres what I get at the command prompt: debian:/usr/src# dir debian:/usr/src# In other words, there seems to be nothing in there. Is this normal? Also, when I type man at the prompt, I get command not found. In general terms, is there a diagnostic that verifies I got the whole enchilada installed? 2. I am making spiritual preparations for the long trek through dselect, in the hope that if I strictly control what files get installed, I can avoid Microsoft-style bloat. Am I correct in thinking that dselect is structured in such a way as to support this fond hope? Will I bloat if I instead use a profile? Is there a way to invoke the profiler outside of the installation sequence? (It didnt arise during installation, for some reason.) 3. Is there a good source of reviews on Linux software: (a) Am I correct in surmising that I must choose from among more than several Linux windowing/GUI schemes? (b) Point-by-point objective comparisons of versions of Emacs? (c) High-quality discussions of various utilities, office suites, etc.? 4. Am I roughly correct in thinking that, after the installation is done, the next thing is to install the windowing/GUI software, and then after that its a free-for-all in which I will just install as many pieces of application software as I can stomach? Along those lines, can I rest my faith in Emacs as my do-all Swiss Army knife, or should I be expecting to install eight trillion utilities and gizmos? Thanks all ... Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
Re: debianized mars-nwe?
Bob Billson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm moving a friend's Red Hat Linux box over to Debian. He was running the NetWare server emulator package 'mars-nwe' on RH. Now I need to reinstall it on Debian. I can't find mars-nwe as a .deb. Is it available? If so, where and what is the package name? Thanks for the help. On a potato this packages is called mars-nwe. bash-2.02$ apt-cache show mars-nwe Package: mars-nwe Version: 0.99pl12-1 Priority: optional Section: net Maintainer: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Depends: libc6 (= 2.0.7u), libgdbmg1 Architecture: i386 Filename: project/experimental/mars-nwe_0.99pl12-1_i386.deb Size: 188054 MD5sum: 06faaafe4d7b7fbefe4ca116288932ba Description: Mars' NetWare Emulator, a Netware bindery server emulator This is a Netware 3.x or 2.x server running on a Linux machine. It accesses the native Linux file system to supply NetWare services. installed-size: 472 bash-2.02$ -- Francois Deppierraz student http://www.ctrlaltdel.ch ICQ: 176 770 09
Re: want to download mac vers.
On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 01:38:35AM -0500, Eric Benoit wrote: Hi, I would like to ftp debian for mac but can't seem to get in with out a password and login, if i have to pay I will ... Huh? Username: anonymous Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Easier to purchase a CD for first install. There's a list of places to get it from. Usually for under $10. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
RE: Why
Well, you posted this Friday afternoon and got thirteen replies (including braindead recommendations such as get Corel), none of which you Braindead ? It is based on debian ... Do you really think Corel is a bad distro ? I haven't used it enough. paul -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE[2]: Why
Paul McHale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you posted this Friday afternoon and got thirteen replies (including braindead recommendations such as get Corel), none of which you Braindead ? It is based on debian ... Do you really think Corel is a bad distro ? I haven't used it enough. The new Evil Empire is not RedHat. That's a mistake many of us have made. Debian will rue the day it got in bed with Corel. I predict Obergruppenfuhrer Cowpland will mount a full court legal press - and soon - to break the GPL. Corel doesn't give a farthing for Debian itself, the project and it goals. As far as Corel is concerned the dedicated folk who keep this wonderful distribution rolling along are just so many bright kids who don't get it, and I suspect - at least as far as the last claim is concerned - that they are right. If you think things have changed around here in the past year or so with the advent of Open Source, hang on to your hats; we're in for a real ride, and real soon, and it won't be nice to watch... -- Bob Bernsteinhttp://members.home.net/ruptured-duck at Esmond, R.I., USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RMS's curmudgeon-like griping that he didn't like the term Open Source looked silly to many last year; it's not looking so dumb today... Christopher B. Browne
RE: Why
On 04-Dec-1999 Paul McHale wrote: Well, you posted this Friday afternoon and got thirteen replies (including braindead recommendations such as get Corel), none of which you Braindead ? It is based on debian ... Do you really think Corel is a bad distro ? I haven't used it enough. I don't know whether it is bad or not, but many people who have used it have said it is very easy to install. Debian is said to be one of the more difficult Linux distributions to install, though it is easier to maintain. I think it just takes a long time to install. -- Andrew
trapped in an xdm loop?
I'm in the process of setting up an old 486 with Debian Linux (slink) and I seemed to be trapped in X Windows. When I type Ctrl+Alt+Backspace it just restarts xdm with the login and Password prompt. Typing a login and password doesn't help because I get a blank blue screen and the mouse doesn't work. Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace at this point also throws me back into the xdm login/Password prompt. I tried restarting the system and it boots into this login/Password prompt. I tried typing Ctrl+C while it was listing all the things it was doing and could not stop it from running xdm. I tried booting from the boot floppy I made and it said boot failed. I can boot off the Rescue floppy but I don't know what to type at the prompt to get to a point where I can edit my config files so it won't start xdm at boot. FYI, this happened when I was trying to get my mouse to work and I saw an archived message from this list that said try xdm stop so I tried that and now I'm in this loop. Thanks for any help, Nancy -- ©Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com/ Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE 4.21: Internet News Email for Win/Unix =--
Re: trapped in an xdm loop?
*- On 4 Dec, Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough wrote about trapped in an xdm loop? I'm in the process of setting up an old 486 with Debian Linux (slink) and I seemed to be trapped in X Windows. When I type Ctrl+Alt+Backspace it just restarts xdm with the login and Password prompt. Typing a login and password doesn't help because I get a blank blue screen and the mouse doesn't work. Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace at this point also throws me back into the xdm login/Password prompt. I tried restarting the system and it boots into this login/Password prompt. I tried typing Ctrl+C while it was listing all the things it was doing and could not stop it from running xdm. I tried booting from the boot floppy I made and it said boot failed. I can boot off the Rescue floppy but I don't know what to type at the prompt to get to a point where I can edit my config files so it won't start xdm at boot. FYI, this happened when I was trying to get my mouse to work and I saw an archived message from this list that said try xdm stop so I tried that and now I'm in this loop. Ctr+Alt+F1 will take you to the first virtual console. Login as root and issue the command '/etc/init.d/xdm stop'. This will stop xdm until you reboot or restart it. If you don't ever want xdm to start just remove it, 'dpkg --remove xdm'. -- Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
New Viruses
I got this off http://www.polyester.net and thought it was funny, sorry for the spam :-) ATT VIRUS: Every three minutes it tells you what great service you are getting. MCI VIRUS: Every three minutes it reminds you that you're paying too much for the ATT virus. PAUL REVERE VIRUS: This revolutionary virus does not horse around. It warns you of impending hard disk attack: Once, if by LAN; twice, if by C: POLITICALLY CORRECT VIRUS: Never identifies itself as a virus, but instead refers to itself as an electronic micro-organism. RIGHT-TO-LIFE VIRUS: Won't allow you to delete a file, regardless of how young it is. If you attempt to erase a file, it requires you to first see a counselor about possible alternatives. TED TURNER VIRUS: Colorizes your monochrome monitor. ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER VIRUS: Terminates and stays resident. It'll be back. GOVERNMENT ECONOMIST VIRUS: Nothing works, but all your diagnostic software says everything is fine. FEDERAL BUREAUCRAT VIRUS: Divides your hard disk into hundreds of little units, each of which does practically nothing, but all of which claim to be the most important part of your computer. GALLUP VIRUS: Sixty percent of the PC's infected will lose 30 percent of their data 14 percent of the time (plus or minus a 3.5 percent margin of error). TEXAS VIRUS: Makes sure that it is bigger than any other file. ADAM AND EVE VIRUS: Takes a couple bytes out of your Apple. CONGRESSIONAL VIRUS: The computer locks up, and the screen splits in half with the same message appearing on each side of the screen. The message says that the blame for the gridlock is caused by the other side. AIRLINE LUGGAGE VIRUS: You're in Dallas, but your data is in Singapore. FREUDIAN VIRUS: Your computer becomes obsessed with marrying its own motherboard. ELVIS VIRUS: Your computer gets fat, slow, and lazy, then self destructs; only to resurface at shopping malls and service stations across rural America. NIKE VIRUS: Just does it. SEARS VIRUS: Your data won't appear unless you buy new cables, power supply, and a set of shocks. JIMMY HOFFA VIRUS: Your programs can never be found again. KEVORKIAN VIRUS: Helps your computer shut down as an act of mercy. STAR TREK VIRUS: Invades your system in places where no virus has gone before. HEALTH CARE VIRUS: Tests your system for a day, finds nothing wrong, and sends you a bill for $4,500. And my personal favorite.. PBS VIRUS: Your programs stop every few minutes to ask for money. -- Ben Lutgens http://cybercreep.mosquitonet.com icq#10836629 There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
effect of having stable and unstable listed in sources.list
I have seen many examples on this list of people putting entries in sources.list for both stable and unstable trees at the same time. How does apt/dselect handle this? Would an apt-get upgrade always pull from stable or unstable? Thanks in advance. Bryan
Re:
Ray Woodcock wrote: Making a little progress here. Many thanks to John Pearson for the most recent increment. Next: 1. Not sure whether my installation completed. I was looking at someone's comments about editing a file in /usr/src/linux, so I tried to go there. But I don?t seem to have any such directory. Here?s what I get at the command prompt: debian:/usr/src# dir debian:/usr/src# This directory is for the source files for the kernel. They are not installed during the base install, unless you select one of the profiles that contain them. If you do want them, you can use dselect or apt-get to install them. Eventually you'll probably want them, because you'll want to recompile your kernel (if for no other reason than the learning experience it provides). What I'd do is to use dselect to search for the kernel-source packages, then make a mental note of the highest numbered package (say 'kernel-source-2.2.12' or something); then exit dselect and as root enter the command 'apt-get install kernel-source-2.2.12' and the source files will be installed. Then look in /usr/src and you should see a directory named 'kernel-source-2.2.12' with the source files. For compatibility with some of the documentation you might find in bookstores/on the web/etc, you might want to make a symbolic link to this dir, like 'ln -s linux kernel-source-2.2.12' (or is it 'ln -s kernel-source-2.2.12 linux'?). In other words, there seems to be nothing in there. Is this normal? Also, when I type ?man? at the prompt, I get ?command not found.? In general terms, is there a diagnostic that verifies I got the whole enchilada installed? Again, man is not installed as part of the base install (because the base needs to be kept as trim as possible to reduce the number of floppies needed for a floppy-based install). Again, use dselect and/or apt-get to install the (I believe) 'man-db' package. 2. I am making spiritual preparations for the long trek through dselect, in the hope that if I strictly control what files get installed, I can avoid Microsoft-style bloat. Am I correct in thinking that dselect is structured in such a way as to support this fond hope? Will I bloat if I instead use a profile? Is there a way to invoke the profiler outside of the installation sequence? (It didn?t arise during installation, for some reason.) dselect will allow you to install only what you want installed. However, if it sees that one package depends on another, it'll bring up a screen saying in essence, I need these other packages also, and you can just hit ENTER to accept its recommendations, which as a general rule you'll want to do. But you do have the capability to override anything; unlike in the MS world, YOU have control. The profiler is only available during the installation (which every newbie complains about (as did I), but once you're over the newbie stage, that no longer seems important enough to bother reprogramming it so it's availabe at any time, so no one has done it AFAIK (As Far As I Know). 3. Is there a good source of reviews on Linux software: (a) Am I correct in surmising that I must choose from among more than several Linux windowing/GUI schemes? (b) Point-by-point objective comparisons of versions of Emacs? (c) High-quality discussions of various utilities, office suites, etc.? Can't say much here. You might want to repost this question as its own thread. 4. Am I roughly correct in thinking that, after the installation is done, the next thing is to install the windowing/GUI software, and then after that it?s a free-for-all in which I will just install as many pieces of application software as I can stomach? Along those lines, can I rest my faith in Emacs as my do-all Swiss Army knife, or should I be expecting to install eight trillion utilities and gizmos? Sortta kindda no yes. My guess is that you've just installed the base OS. If you want you can next install the X Window System, but it's by no means required. It is pretty much a free-for-all in that you can install whatever you want. However, things like StarOffice and Netscape and X-based games, etc, require X, and X is nice, so yea, you'll probably want to install it. I've never used Emacs, so can't answer that question specifically, but I get the impression that some of the old-timers (excuse me, experienced Linux users grin) pretty much live in Emacs exclusively. Thanks all ... Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
back to the mouse problem
Thanks to everyone who helped me get out of the X loop I was in. Now I'm back to trying to get my mouse to work. It's a serial mouse on Com1 (it worked with that setting in Win95) and I've tried setting the mouse device to ttyS0 in both /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config and /etc/gpm.conf but that hasn't worked. I've also tried ttyS1 and ttyS2 but those didn't work either. I tried running XF86Setup but since I don't have a mouse I can't figure out how to use it. Anyway I think the problem is that my ethernet card (eth0) is using IRQ 3 and according to the BIOS info that is displayed at boot, and the info that the linux displays at boot: ttyS0 is at 0x02F8 and using irq3 So I'm thinking that I have to get these to be using different IRQs but I'm wondering what's the best way to change one of them. I'm so relieved that I have my network working finally (after spending ALL DAY yesterday on it) that I'm really not looking forward to messing with eth0. Thanks for any help, Nancy -- ©Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com/ Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE 4.21: Internet News Email for Win/Unix =--
RE: effect of having stable and unstable listed in sources.list
On 04-Dec-1999 Bryan Scaringe wrote: I have seen many examples on this list of people putting entries in sources.list for both stable and unstable trees at the same time. How does apt/dselect handle this? Would an apt-get upgrade always pull from stable or unstable? Thanks in advance. Bryan I was just thinking about this last night, and it seems to me that to avoid downgrading my system, it is better to explicitly have potato or slink or whatever in my sources.list. After all, slink is always slink, but unstable can mean different things at different times. -- Andrew
Re: cfdisk table: unusable space??
On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 01:43:44PM +0100, J Horacio MG wrote: El vie, 03 de dic de 1999, a las 07:38:02 -0600, Brad dijo: On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 12:16:33AM +0100, J Horacio MG wrote: But my question was different: when I first partitioned my disk, I left NO space without partitioning... so, what's that unusable space doing there? where did it come from? You never mentioned that in your original post. Yes I did, and the details of the unusable space were in the last line of the partition table: hda3 Primary LinuxSwap 196.11 Unusable172.58 Yes, i saw that and mentioned it in my reply. But you never said anything in the original post about leaving no space when you first partitioned, you just asked Unusable??? what does this mean?. -- finger for GPG public key. 29 Nov 1999 - new email address added to gpg key pgpEGl6NZa6Bx.pgp Description: PGP signature
No. of lines / page in ps output
Hi, When I use the sgml to postscript converter, the number of lines that appear in one postscript page is quite low and not appropriate for an A4 size page. Where is the pagesize specified in sgmltools? Is it in a place which can be controlled by the user? Thanks in advance, Jor-el Ain't that something what happened today. One of us got traded to Kansas City. -- Casey Stengel, informing outfielder Bob Cerv he'd been traded.
RE: effect of having stable and unstable listed in sources.list
Opps, When in doubt, I should read the man pages. Looks like apt will go through sources.list, and will install the package from the first source it finds. if I am reading man sources.list correctly :) Bryan On 04-Dec-1999 Pollywog wrote: On 04-Dec-1999 Bryan Scaringe wrote: I have seen many examples on this list of people putting entries in sources.list for both stable and unstable trees at the same time. How does apt/dselect handle this? Would an apt-get upgrade always pull from stable or unstable? Thanks in advance. Bryan I was just thinking about this last night, and it seems to me that to avoid downgrading my system, it is better to explicitly have potato or slink or whatever in my sources.list. After all, slink is always slink, but unstable can mean different things at different times. -- Andrew
RE: RE[2]: Why
Bob, The new Evil Empire is not RedHat. That's a mistake many of us have made. Debian will rue the day it got in bed with Corel. I predict Obergruppenfuhrer Cowpland will mount a full court legal press - and soon - to break the GPL. You may be right, but I hope you are wrong. I think old Linus himself would get involved over that. Most of what Linux stock is riding on is hype. Redhat made nowhere near enough money to justify stock. If Linus and co puts the poo poo on Corel, it will kill the stock of Corel. I don't think anyone, even Redhat, is in any position to undermine the GPL. It would be seen as a direct attack on the very foundation of Linux, Open Source. People (Microsoft) wouldn't need 10 seconds to capitalize. Corel doesn't give a farthing for Debian itself, the project and it goals. As far as Corel is concerned the dedicated folk who keep this wonderful distribution rolling along are just so many bright kids who don't get it, and I suspect - at least as far as the last claim is concerned - that they are right. From a stock holders view, your correct. But everyone realizes Linux works because it is a volunteer effort. Subvert that and Linux will dissipate. No one participating is in a position to do that. Realistically, the idealist would simply step away from the keyboard. Any attack on GPL (provided the die hard developers live and breath it) would be pointless. If you think things have changed around here in the past year or so with the advent of Open Source, hang on to your hats; we're in for a real ride, and real soon, and it won't be nice to watch... You want a nightmare. Here's one. Microsoft buying Corel. That's a nightmare. Stockholders aren't so idealistic. It could happen. I just hope Bill hasn't thought of it... After all, they did invest in apple. They could major league invest in Corel and claim they are supporting open source. Let the subversion begin. They could buy Corel, run it into the ground, claim open source doesn't work and that's why it failed. They tried, after all. Talk about the plot out of a bond movie. (mad scientist laugh :) paul
Re: USB Mouse
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robert L. Harris wrote: nomad menuconfig of 2.2.14-pre and couldn't find it. What section is it nomad under? I have a new HP printer that is USB capable so I was curious about nomad playing with it. dont get yer hopes up just yet, from what ive seen the USB support in 2.3 only supports basic devices like mice and keyboards. but at least its a start. nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 12:47pm up 107 days, 29 min, 6 users, load average: 1.89, 1.73, 1.69
Re: effect of having stable and unstable listed in sources.list
On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 03:32:45PM -0500, Bryan Scaringe wrote: I have seen many examples on this list of people putting entries in sources.list for both stable and unstable trees at the same time. How does apt/dselect handle this? Would an apt-get upgrade always pull from stable or unstable? apt will take the most recent version of the package that it can find, which will most likely be the one from unstable. If two sources offer the same version of the package, apt will take it from the one listed first in sources.list. -- finger for GPG public key. 29 Nov 1999 - new email address added to gpg key pgp2G7RCIyR7e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: effect of having stable and unstable listed in sources.list
No, it will install the newest version of whatever it finds. The order of the listings in sources.list only is important if it finds two sources for the *exact* same file. The file then will get installed from the first URI. This is useful if you have a local mirror that may not be up to date with a web mirror. If the local copy is listed first and it contains a file that is the same on the net mirror then the local copy will be installed. I would not recomend mixing slink and potato sources. Early in the potato development this was possible as slink and potato were not too different and only a few files were updated. But now most files depend in some way on libc6 v2.1 or perl5.005 and will cause major problems if they are installed and you are not willing to upgrade yet. *- On 4 Dec, Bryan Scaringe wrote about RE: effect of having stable and unstable listed in sources.list Opps, When in doubt, I should read the man pages. Looks like apt will go through sources.list, and will install the package from the first source it finds. if I am reading man sources.list correctly :) Bryan On 04-Dec-1999 Pollywog wrote: On 04-Dec-1999 Bryan Scaringe wrote: I have seen many examples on this list of people putting entries in sources.list for both stable and unstable trees at the same time. How does apt/dselect handle this? Would an apt-get upgrade always pull from stable or unstable? Thanks in advance. Bryan I was just thinking about this last night, and it seems to me that to avoid downgrading my system, it is better to explicitly have potato or slink or whatever in my sources.list. After all, slink is always slink, but unstable can mean different things at different times. -- Andrew Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
RE: What hardware is good for Debian servers?
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Paul McHale wrote: pmchal Please go to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus. I am not saying they are pmchal unacceptable. I have an Asus board. I am just saying there are many pmchal frustrated people. Given Asus popularity, the posters may be an extremely pmchal small segment. Many have openly complained about support... I am not sure pmchal any other boards are better ... The machine i use as my main server has an asus dual p2 board as well..has worked fine so far, no troubles. still usin 2.0.36 kernel though :) (dual p2 233) nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 12:47pm up 107 days, 29 min, 6 users, load average: 1.89, 1.73, 1.69
Re: I didn't mean to offend
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Brigette Heffner wrote: briget Ok, this is me...the one who posted Why... briget I didn't mean to offend anyone...(everyone). I really want to use Linux and It's making me nuts. We have it a school and I love it. there you go, there is boudn to be people at school that admin those machines or at least know how they installed etc. I still reccomend taking the laptop in to the people there i bet they would help. video drivers is the biggest issue, I am having my co-worker go with the latest SuSe because of the support for Savage4 out-of-the-box. Debian slink probably wouldnt be a good choice for ease of installation on that platform(although it would be fun) mainly because the official distro's XFREE86 is sou outdated. without knowing exactly which ATI chipset you have its hard to know how easy(or if its even possible) to get XFREE86 going on your laptop. Xi Graphics has Laptop Accelerated X which is bound to support the laptop but its also pricey at $199 (or is it $299?) www.xinside.com nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 12:47pm up 107 days, 29 min, 6 users, load average: 1.89, 1.73, 1.69
