Re: remapping M$ windows key to act as meta under console emacs (like X)

[ferret]

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I had this set once before, but not in a while to be sure now..

I think you need to hack the console keymap to bind 'M$' to ALT.
But there's a little thing on console about ALT<-->META mapping.
I don't believe emacs will recognise META and ALT seperately on the
console. Could be wrong by now, though.

#include 

On Mon, 15 May 2000, Britton wrote:

> 
> I notice that under X, emacs now uses the little window key as a meta,
> while doing something totally other with Alt.  This is fine, but I like to
> use emacs from the console, and there Alt is still needed.  I don't think
> it's a good idea to have emacs requiring different keystrokes depending on
> where is is run.  Anyone know the best way to make things
> consistent?  Should this perhaps be changed in the package?
> 
> Britton Kerin
> 
> 
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Re: bashrc

[Kent West]

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Took me a while to find the fifth, then my brain briefly rebelled. Think
I'll share your sig with a few friends; pretty cool.

Re: Samba

[Kent West]

Jay Kelly wrote:
> 
> Where would I find smbclient, I cant seem to find it and I guess I need it
> for samba ,, right?

apt-get install smbclient

and, no, not necessarily. There are two components: 1)Samba, the server,
which makes your Linux box look like a Windows server, and 2)smbclient,
the client, which allows your Linux box to connect to Windows (or Samba)
servers.

If you want to give Win95/98/NT/2K boxes the ability to map drives to
your Linux box, you need to install the server on your Linux box.

If you want your Linux box to be able to mount shares that are shared
from Win95/98/NT/2K boxes, you need to install the client on your Linux
box.

You can install either or both or neither, depending on your needs.

Re: Help with the /etc/init.d/network

[Ethan Benson]

On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 01:38:19PM +1000, Matthew Dalton wrote:
> 
> 
> "A. Scott White" wrote:
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me exactly what this line accomplishes:
> > 
> > [ "${GATEWAY}" ] && route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
> 
> if the $GATEWAY variable has been set, run the command 'route add
> default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1.
> 
> The [ and ] are synonyms for the 'test' program. In this case, if
> $GATEWAY is set, test returns 1, otherwise it returns 0. The return

you got that backwords, when $GATEWAY is set `test' returns 0 not 1.

0 == success
1 == failure

to the original poster, reply & change subject != new message 

the former screws up threading in mailing list archives and in MUAs
such as mutt.  please always create a new message and paste the list
address in instead of using reply as a shortcut, or if you post often
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Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

[Ethan Benson]

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 06:48:02PM -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote:
> 
> I'm a long time Red Hat user.  Basically the company I'm working for is
> currently using Red Hat but for some reason they're considering switching
> to Debian.  I personally don't have any experience with Debian abd
> honestly I'm open to anything but I was hoping for some positive feedback
> from people who have used both Red Hat and Debian.  My main interests are:
> 
> Dpkg vs RPM
>   Both managability and build packages.  I have heard a lot
>   of "good things" about dpkg.

as others have said dpkg/apt to RPM is to GNU/Linux to DOS.

> Customization of the distro
>   We do a lot of customization to our distro.  Can this easily
>   be done with debian?

much easier then redhat!  unlike redhat your config files are never
overwritten and /usr/local is never touched by the package system
(except some directories are created there) you can also make your own
.debs if you wish.  

> Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart)
>   This is also something fairly important.  We need this as we do a
>   lot of mass installs.

nobody has mentioned this trick yet so i will, it works very well for
both replication and restoration after disaster (*cough* kernel 2.2.13
*cough*) install the base system, run dselect/tasksel to get the
packages you want installed, once that is done run:

dpkg --get-selections \* > selections.master

then on your next machine install the base system (easy) and once that
is done instead of running tasksel/dselect again run:

dpkg --set-selections < selections.master

then run dselect update and install but not select.  you get the exact
same set of package installed.  

its not quite unattended and automatic but it does pretty much what
kickstart does:  saves you from selecting all the packages you want
over and over again for each machine.

once you have used debian you will never touch a redhat system again. 

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FW: Tape Backup Problem

[Andrew McRobert]

... i'm using tar & smbtar on a Dell Poweredge (with SONY DDS3 tape drive)
running Debian 2.2.14 (potato) ... works very nicely ... tar's a great
little program & very useful for your shell scripts ... backing up several
gig with no problems, I'd stay away from GUI tape drive managers, there's
really no need for them

Andrew

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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 4:52 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Tape Backup Problem


On 05/16/00, Robert Waldner addressed "Re: Tape Backup Problem":
> I had the same experience on kernel 2.0.38 with a HP DDS-2 when
> using taper and/or kbackup. Settled down for plain tar.

Plain tar is nice in some ways, but unless there's hardware
compression, using compression is risky.   I've been using afio, which
allows you to compress file-by-file.  Like tar, it fits nicely into
scripts, and creates reasonably accessible archives.

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RE: Help with the /etc/init.d/network

[Huggel, Andreas]

`[' (the `test' command) is used to evaluate the GATEWAY environment
variable. `&&' is a shell control operator to evaluate an AND list. It is
often used like this instead of an if/then construct. The `route' command is
only executed if the test evaluated to zero, i.e., GATEWAY is set. 
For details, see the manual pages for `[' (or `test'), `bash' (or your
particular shell) and `route'.

Andreas

> -Original Message-
> From: A. Scott White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 11:05
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Help with the /etc/init.d/network
> 
> 
> Can anyone tell me exactly what this line accomplishes:
> 
> [ "${GATEWAY}" ] && route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
> 
> I'm pretty sure it adds the default gateway setting for 
> TCP/IP, but I don't
> understand what it means, exactly. Could you explain:
> 1. The script syntax
> 2. the commands involved
> 
> I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
> 
> 
> A. Scott White
> Director of Information Systems and Product Strategy
> Healthcare Solutions Group
> Affiliated Computer Services, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

Re: hide the commabd executed from ps,who

[Ethan Benson]

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 09:29:55PM +0200, Robert Waldner wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2000 11:56:07 PDT, "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" writes:
> >On 16-May-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> How can I hide the commond I am executing so that people can't see
> >> it from ps,or who?For example,if i use mysql by typing mysql -u myname -p
> >> passsword ..people can see my password...So it would be good if I can
> >> hide what i am doing from other user...espcially for some program which 
> >> I can specify my password in command line...
> >
> >don't put your password on the commandline.  Even if ps does not show it, it
> >will appear in /proc.
> 
> So the real question is: how can you manage so that not everything in /proc
> is world-readable (is that´s possible by design)?
> 

that is just the way it is, there is no way to change that in the
standard kernel.  i say standard kernel because there is a security
patch which adds several security options to the kernel config, such
as non-executable stack (which does no good) and tighter permissions
on /proc.  i think the way it works is instead of those files being
world readable they are mode 440/550 instead of 444/555, and you can
specify the group as a /proc mount option.  this way you could allow
all members of the wheel group to see all processes but everyone else
can only see processes they own not any others.  

this proc patch has been proposed to be installed in the standard
kernel but has always been rejected, i am not sure why it may very
well break things.  i think that this should be mount option for proc
personally, if you don't need/want it mount proc normally, otherwise
mount it with -o secure,group=wheel or something.

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gcc

[Kreaped Ripping Reaper]

hi.. i tried to get gcc into my woody box.. but when i did apt-get install gcc
it says obsolete and.. and give 3 choice "gcc272, gcc272-doc and gcc-doc"
how do i get gcc 2.95 ?


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Re: oracle and debian

[Sanjeev \"Ghane\" Gupta]

Trimming CCs

I was running this in my old company, and it's still up and going.

Debian Slink, with some potato stuff, but not libc.  256MB RAM (please do
not skimp).  Oracle 8.0.5 mostly, although installing OAS 4.0 forced many
upgrades, so I think we may be closer to 8.1.5, actually.

Need to change NR_TASKS in the kernel source code to 512 if you want to run
OAS or OWS.


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Subject: oracle and debian


> Hi;
>
> Sorry for my english
>
> Is some one know the possibility to install Oracle(8.1.5, or 8i) en a
> debian box(slink or potato) ?
>
> Cordialement(Best)
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Re: Help with the /etc/init.d/network

[Matthew Dalton]

"A. Scott White" wrote:
> 
> Can anyone tell me exactly what this line accomplishes:
> 
> [ "${GATEWAY}" ] && route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1

if the $GATEWAY variable has been set, run the command 'route add
default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1.

The [ and ] are synonyms for the 'test' program. In this case, if
$GATEWAY is set, test returns 1, otherwise it returns 0. The return
value from test determines whether the rest of the line is executed,
because of the && (logical AND). The commands on this line are executed
left to right. However, if the first (the test) results in 0, then the
result of the logical AND can never be 1, so the second command is not
executed -- it works like an if statement basically.

Matthew

Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

[David Lynn]

I agree - dpkg and apt are great compared to rpm's.  However, that's all
assuming that there are debian packages out there that are up to date
(which they're generally not).  But this seems to be the only major
drawback I've found to Debian.

--d

Re: IP forwarding

[John Pearson]

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 07:24:09AM -0600, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote
> I have a box that I want to do IP forwarding.  But, I can't ping outside
> hosts through it.  The firewall sends packets from me, but it doesn't
> re-forward the ICMP echo replies (although you can see them with iptraf in
> promiscuous mode) back.
> 
> # ipchains -L
> Chain input (policy ACCEPT):
> Chain forward (policy ACCEPT):
> Chain output (policy ACCEPT):
> 
> # cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> 1
> 

Try this:
# echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/rp_filter
# echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth1/rp_filter
(and repeat for any other network cards you may have
installed in the two machines).

If that helps, read 
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt

and look at /etc/init.d/netbase.  Some network configurations
(e.g., satellite downlinks or multiple, multihomed machines)
may require different handling than the default, or more
careful planning of network routing.


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Re: ipchains error

[John Pearson]

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:07:10AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote
> TO get around my problems with my rtl8139.o module not being recognized by
> moprobe, I recompiled the kernel 2.0.38 version with the driver rolled into
> it. This solved the problem beautifully (thanks, Peter). However, I get a
> load of ipchains errors on boot and now ipchains -L give me the error
> "incompatable with the kernel". What do I have to do to get ipchains working
> again?
> 

Use kernel 2.2 :(.  For firewalling in 2.0.x kernels, look at
man ipfwadm


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Help with the /etc/init.d/network

[A. Scott White]

Can anyone tell me exactly what this line accomplishes:

[ "${GATEWAY}" ] && route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1

I'm pretty sure it adds the default gateway setting for TCP/IP, but I don't
understand what it means, exactly. Could you explain:
1. The script syntax
2. the commands involved

I'd appreciate it. Thanks.


A. Scott White
Director of Information Systems and Product Strategy
Healthcare Solutions Group
Affiliated Computer Services, Inc.
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Re: remapping M$ windows key to act as meta under console emacs (like X)

[Karl M. Hegbloom]

> "Britton" == Britton  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Britton> I notice that under X, emacs now uses the little window key as a 
meta,
Britton> while doing something totally other with Alt.  This is fine, but I 
like to
Britton> use emacs from the console, and there Alt is still needed.  I 
don't think
Britton> it's a good idea to have emacs requiring different keystrokes 
depending on
Britton> where is is run.  Anyone know the best way to make things
Britton> consistent?  Should this perhaps be changed in the package?

 You have to change key keymaps with the `loadkeys' for the console or
 with `xmodmap' for X.  I've created a console keymap for use with
 XEmacs that you might like to try.  Look in:

   http://master.debian.org/~karlheg/XE-Lisp>

 ... for xhypermap.m4 and ext-fkeymap.el.

 If you don't like how I've got the change vt keys mapped, then you
 can modify the .m4 file to suit yourself.  I based it on the
 hypermap.m4 that's part of `console-tools'.

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Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

[Chris Wagner]

At 07:29 PM 5/16/00 -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote:
>I'm a long time Red Hat user.  Basically the company I'm working for is

Sorry about that. :)

>Dpkg vs RPM

RPM is a piece of crap compared to dpkg, and now we have apt (advanced
package tool).  It's a handler for dpkg, but it's intelligent.  The killer
feature is its ability to do *recursive upgrades of your entire box* in
order, with dependacies. I had to use rpm once and I really felt hobbled by
it's lack of information.

For a real world example [TM], rpm tells you what *files* a package depends
on while dpkg tells you what *packages* a package depends on.  The latter is
incredibly more useful.

Another example, say you want to upgrade a package, but the new version
depends on newer versions of other packages and maybe even a new pacakge.
Apt will find out what packages you need, install them in order, and then
install the package you want.  Let's see rpm do that.  Debian even has a
utility to install rpm packages!  So any custom legacy red had packs you
have you can carry over into Debian.

>Customization of the distro

Very easily.  You can make .debs to your heart's content.

>Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart)
>   This is also something fairly important.  We need this as we do a
>   lot of mass installs.

For mass installs, just make a standard issue CD, boot from that CD, and
copy over the OS.  Or you could even make a disk image and dd it onto the
hard drive.  That assumes you have the same hard drive in all the machines.
You can turn a 20GB drive into a 10GB drive. :)  But even if you have 4 or 5
different hard drives in your organization, using disk images will still
save you tons of time.  Thats what we do at GE, if somebody has a funky
problem with their machine, we don't reinstall Windows and all the apps, we
just reimage the hard disk.

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Re: man --> info?

[Gregory Guthrie]

At 05:35 PM 05/16/2000 -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 09:10:16AM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
> At 05:53 AM 05/16/2000 -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> >.  Perhaps you'd enjoy the dhelp
> >package.  It's not perfect, but it works through your browser and will
> >render info and man pages as html on the fly using (info2www and
> >man2html).
>
> -- Where can I get info on this?

It's a debian script thing.  Browse the debian web site, or just
"apt-get install dhelp".  It's pretty small, but will have to run a bit
initially to build up its indexes.  I think a cron job periodically runs
to update the indexes as well.



-- Neat, thanks.

BUt;

alpha{root}.139: apt-get install dhelp
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package dhelp has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
never uploaded, or that it is an obsolete package.
E: Package dhelp has no installation candidate
alpha{root}.140:



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Re: IP forwarding

[Dwayne C . Litzenberger]

Well, I figured it out.  I needed the firewall to intercept ARP requests for
my hosts from the cable modem.

The two commands (both needed) that got it working were:

arp -i eth0 -Ds 24.x.x.190 eth0
arp -i eth0 -Ds 24.x.x.190 eth0 pub

Thanks for the help.

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Re: Rename Workgroup,etc.

[ktb]

Jay Kelly wrote:
> 
> Where do I change my computer Name

In /etc/hostname

There is a program 'hostname' you can use but if I remember right to
make it stick you need to sometimes change the file.

>, Workgroup 

Try "apropos group"  there are several programs listed such as
"groupadd" to add a group and "groupmod" to modify a group.  Look at the
man pages for those programs and see which works for you.

and how do I rename the Samba
> Server?

Samba? I don't know.  
hth,
kent

Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

[Bruce Sass]

On Wed, 17 May 2000, Matthew Dalton wrote:
> I beleive it is possible to install a Debian system, configure/customise
> it, and then repackage the deb packages using the customised files on
> the system instead of the original default ones, using some provided
> tools.
> 
> Can anyone confirm this? I have not tried it myself, but I vaguely
> remember reading it somewhere in the Slink documentation.

You are thinking of "dpkg-repack", it should also be possible to add and
remove files to/from the customized package.


later,

Bruce

Re: bashrc

[w trillich]

Graeme Mathieson wrote:
> montefin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > ALTHILTM,
> 
> WTF does that mean? :)

at least, that's how it looks to me.

ALTHILTM. (couldn't resist.)

:)


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ipchains saga

[Chris Mason]

It's over! Firewall is working well thanks to the generous help of all on
this list. I found the driver by selecting the "experimental drivers"
option.

Thanks, I would have dumped Linux long ago without the help of the list
members.

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bwz*mq

Upgrade from slink to potato, IPX

[David E. Young]

Greetings. Thanks to all who offered assistance on my upgrade from
Debian 2.1 to "frozen potato". The process went fairly well, apart
from a circular dependency that was resolved by re-installing 2.1 with
the 2.2 kernel. However, there seems to be an intermittent problem
with the dynamic linker (ld.so). For example, running some programs
yields the following:

  BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 57: elf_get-dynamic_info: 
Assertion '! "bad dynamic tag"' failed!

I noticed this failure when running 'man' on a valid entry (man on a
non-existent entry does not cause this behavior); I also noticed the
failure during an invocation of 'umount' while the system was
rebooting. And, there are other problems. For example, I see an
"Illegal SPARC instruction" flash by during the runlevel change after
executing 'init 6'. 

My platform is a SPARC IPX; 64mb ram, prom rev 2.9. Debian 2.1 seemed
to run fine. If someone has an idea of a fix, please let me
know. Otherwise I'll revert to 2.1 until potato is officially
released. Also, if I can offer any more information please ask. Thanks
much.

Regards,

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smb errors

[Chris Mason]

Everytime I install samba I get these errors when I try to use it:
load_client_codepage: filename /etc/samba/codepages/codepage.850 does not
exist.
load_unicode_map: filename /etc/samba/codepages/unicode_map.850 does not
exist.

What's up?

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Re: xntp

[John Hasler]

john writes:
> After installing xntp3 and xntp3-doc packages, I find the docs far too
> complex to fully understand, and the program aims for far greater
> accuracy than I need.

Michel Verdier writes:
> I felt like yourself :)

Try chrony.  The debian package works with dialup straight out of the box.
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Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

[Nathan]

Dpkg beats RPM hands down for anyone who has to actualy administer a
number of boxes and wants everything as automatic as possible (for
upgrades).

As far as being able to customize the distro - go all out.  You can of
course edit config files at the "vi" level ;)  There are also tools to
take the administration of a large number of machines to an even higher
level.

I don't know if the mass installs is a possibility.  I imagine it depends
on your idea of an automated install.

-Nathan


On Tue, 16 May 2000, Jeremy Hansen wrote:

> 
> I'm a long time Red Hat user.  Basically the company I'm working for is
> currently using Red Hat but for some reason they're considering switching
> to Debian.  I personally don't have any experience with Debian abd
> honestly I'm open to anything but I was hoping for some positive feedback
> from people who have used both Red Hat and Debian.  My main interests are:
> 
> Dpkg vs RPM
>   Both managability and build packages.  I have heard a lot
>   of "good things" about dpkg.
> Customization of the distro
>   We do a lot of customization to our distro.  Can this easily
>   be done with debian?
> Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart)
>   This is also something fairly important.  We need this as we do a
>   lot of mass installs.
> 
> Thanks
> -jeremy
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: xntp

[Michel Verdier]

john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

| I wish to keep time synchronised by using my ISP's timeserver. This box
| is a stand-alone one, and I connect using a modem.

I personnally choosed some time servers on the net but the result is more
or less the same...

| 
| After installing xntp3 and xntp3-doc packages, I find the docs far too
| complex to fully understand, and the program aims for far greater
| accuracy than I need.

I felt like yourself :)

| 20.19.55 xntpd [171] synchronized to , stratum =2

So it works : synchronized means your clock is or will (after a while) be
to the same time.

| 20.27.00 xntpd [171] synchronized to , stratum =3

You are synchronized again, so all is well. If not you will have some clear 
failure logged.

| I can't understand the /var/log/ntpstats files (loopstats and peerstats)

They are mainly used to keep a very accurate synchronization. For a simple
and personnal usage, you do not have to log all these files. 

| Are there any explanatory notes (preferably in simple terms) for the
| contents of the ntpstat log files?  Can anyone offer any ideas as to
| where I should go from here?

I supposed you search xntp web site ?

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Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

[Steve Lamb]

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 07:55:16PM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
> Debian seems to be fairly tweak-friendly; dpkg makes an effort to not
> overwrite users' configuration files without advance notice.  Building 
> Debian packages takes a little work, but there are semiautomated tools 
> that help a lot.

This is very developer dependant, howerver.  Some developers think that
their package is from the gods and us mortals must take comes down the pipe.
With that attitude they feel that major changes in the architecture from one
minor release to the next need not have its own warning.  This is a problem
because, as we all saw with ILOVEYOU, oft-repeated warnings are oft-ignored
warnings because they are routine.

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Re: Samba

[Olaf Meeuwissen]

Jay Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Where would I find smbclient, I cant seem to find it and I guess I
> need it for samba ,, right?

Nope.  It's mainly useful for Unix folks that need to access networked
Windows machines.  Handy to test your Samba setup from a Unix box tho.

You can find it in the Debian distribution.  Assuming you've set your
apt sources to something suitable:

  apt-get install smbclient

Hope that helps,
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Re: XScreenSaver

[Eric G . Miller]

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 04:46:32PM -0800, Adam Shand wrote:
> 
> > I think WindowMaker has some kind of session manager, but if you can't
> > figure out how to make that work, you can put this in ~/.xsession
> > 
> > # We like a screensaver...
> > if [ -f /usr/bin/X11/xscreensaver ]; then
> > /usr/bin/X11/xscreensaver -no-splash &
> > fi
> 
> if you run X by typing 'startx' rather then logging in through xdm you need
> to put the above lines in your ~/.xinitrc instead.

No you don't.  Read the startup scripts (or just try it).

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Re: Wanted a free library for computational geometry

[Daniele Cruciani]

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 11:36:58AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
> On 16-May-2000 Daniele Cruciani wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm going to write some programs of computational geometry, so i
> > need a library (probably a set of libs) for data type and
> > algorithms. AFAIK there are 2 library that could hit my need:
> > LEDA (http://www.mpi-sb.mpg.de/LEDA/) for data type and CGAL
> > (http://www.cs.ruu.nl/CGAL/) for algorithms.
> > But no one of that are GPLed.
> > 
> > I think I can use glib in place of LEDA, but it's not enought for me
> > so i need to link agaist something other.
> > I've no starting point at all for replacement of CGAL.
> > 
> > 
> > Any suggestion?
> > 
> 
> I am assuming that you have searched google.com and freshmeat?  Python has
> numerous math libs, perhaps you could crib some of their work.  Much of their
> math code is actually in C, then wrapped as a python module.
> 

It's not exactly what i need: math library is good for numerical
computation, but there is no routine for geometrical computation such
as convex hull, seraching pair of closest points and so.
GDK library have similar routines but it don't menage flot number, and
implemenatation is far to be optimal.
I need somethink like gmp library but for geometrical routine, or
maybe like gsl.

Really I don't think i can find it on freshmeat or as a python
library, but in a research institute maybe, however i'll have a look,
thank you.


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Re: grep with actual date ?

[Brad]

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 01:41:00PM +0100, Oliver Schoenknecht wrote:
> 
> I am planning to do a daily system check with refused connects by 
> placing them in a cron job. So far, so good. But - and that's the 
> problem - does anyone know how to tell the "grep"-command to 
> filter just the refused connects of today and not all those which are 
> two weeks old ? This should happen each day frequently so any 
> help would be appreciated very well...

You might want to look into logcheck, it's a shell script and some
helper apps that will help you check all your log files and find the
important stuff, and automatically email them if found. Except that the
default config is more for BSD than Linux i've found it useful.


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Re: XScreenSaver

[Adam Shand]

> I think WindowMaker has some kind of session manager, but if you can't
> figure out how to make that work, you can put this in ~/.xsession
> 
> # We like a screensaver...
> if [ -f /usr/bin/X11/xscreensaver ]; then
> /usr/bin/X11/xscreensaver -no-splash &
> fi

if you run X by typing 'startx' rather then logging in through xdm you need
to put the above lines in your ~/.xinitrc instead.

adam.

Re: pop3 server w/ virtual domains

[Adam Shand]

check out solidpop, there is a debian package of it as well (solid-pop3d).

it supports virtual domains and a bunch of other useful stuff.

adam.

On Fri, 12 May 2000, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
>   When using exim + virtual domains, is it possible to have a pop3
> server also with virtual domains?
>   I mean, if I have some users with same name under different
> domains, how to serve pop3 for them? Is it possible?
>   Thanks
> 
> Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
> IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
> http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
>http://www.revistalinux.com.br
> 
> 
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Samba

[Jay Kelly]

Where would I find smbclient, I cant seem to find it and I guess I need it
for samba ,, right?

Re: man --> info?

[Eric G . Miller]

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 09:10:16AM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
> At 05:53 AM 05/16/2000 -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> >.  Perhaps you'd enjoy the dhelp
> >package.  It's not perfect, but it works through your browser and will
> >render info and man pages as html on the fly using (info2www and
> >man2html).
> 
> -- Where can I get info on this?

It's a debian script thing.  Browse the debian web site, or just
"apt-get install dhelp".  It's pretty small, but will have to run a bit
initially to build up its indexes.  I think a cron job periodically runs
to update the indexes as well.

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updating magicfilter

[John Anderson]

Is there anyway to update he print filter selections in magicfilter to
support more and newer printer models.  If there is a way to update
magicfilter, what kind of filter can I add (from which program)?

I tried switching to apsfilter, but found it harder to setup than
magicfilter.  Especially trying to setup multiple printers on one
computer.


John Kerr Anderson
Debian GNU/Linux 2.1

Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

[Matthew Dalton]

David Z Maze wrote:
> JH> Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart)
> JH> This is also something fairly important.  We need this as we do a
> JH> lot of mass installs.
> 
> This isn't quite there.  IANADD, but my guess is that this
> functionality will probably appear (via APT and debconf) in a few
> months.  The groundwork for this is still being written.

I beleive it is possible to install a Debian system, configure/customise
it, and then repackage the deb packages using the customised files on
the system instead of the original default ones, using some provided
tools.

Can anyone confirm this? I have not tried it myself, but I vaguely
remember reading it somewhere in the Slink documentation.

This feature would certainly go a long way towards what Jeremy is after.

Matthew

mmap- what is it?

[pollywog]

While attempting to compile Archimedes, I got this:
*** configure has detected some severe problems. Before running
*** "make" you should check the following messages:
 
** Must have working mmap.  

Which package contains this?

I never had this problem with this machine, so I suspect my mmap got lost 
somehow.

thanks

--
Andrew

Re: svgatextmode

[John Anderson]

In the program there is a configuration file /etc/TextConfig where you
specify your video card and so forth.  To improve your resolution type
SVGATextMode 80x40x9 or whatever desired resolution you have.  I use the 
program in that mode.  You can check with the file for all the
possibilities you can use.  After you find a desired resolution you have to
specify that within the configuration file undersa "DefaultMode."


John Kerr Anderson
Debian GNU/Linux 2.1


On Tue, 16 May 2000, Stephen E. Schafer wrote:

> I have checked the man page and email the maintainer of this program all
> without being able to understand how to get the program to work.  I have set
> X up several times, but this console display program causes me no end of
> concern.  I don't want to have to try to reinstall everything because I
> screw up setting up this program, but I now have debian set up in console
> mode only, which is how I want it until I learn more without GUI, but
> enhanced console mode would be nice.
> 
> Help, please.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
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Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

[David Z Maze]

Jeremy Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JH> Dpkg vs RPM
JH> Both managability and build packages.  I have heard a lot
JH> of "good things" about dpkg.

My experience has been that it can be extremely hard to upgrade a
system from one RH release to another, and that RH is very bad about
providing migration paths between releases.  In contrast, it's easy to 
upgrade Debian machines (I track the "unstable" branch and do an
upgrade every day or two), and Debian's APT tool can handle even the
messiest system upgrades with only one or two user commands.  Oh yeah, 
and I've never used a --force-* option with dpkg (unless some package
in unstable was broken, but that usually cleans itself up every day or 
two).

JH> Customization of the distro
JH> We do a lot of customization to our distro.  Can this easily
JH> be done with debian?

Debian seems to be fairly tweak-friendly; dpkg makes an effort to not
overwrite users' configuration files without advance notice.  Building 
Debian packages takes a little work, but there are semiautomated tools 
that help a lot.

JH> Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart)
JH> This is also something fairly important.  We need this as we do a
JH> lot of mass installs.

This isn't quite there.  IANADD, but my guess is that this
functionality will probably appear (via APT and debconf) in a few
months.  The groundwork for this is still being written.

-- 
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-- Abra Mitchell

Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

[Jeremy Hansen]

I'm a long time Red Hat user.  Basically the company I'm working for is
currently using Red Hat but for some reason they're considering switching
to Debian.  I personally don't have any experience with Debian abd
honestly I'm open to anything but I was hoping for some positive feedback
from people who have used both Red Hat and Debian.  My main interests are:

Dpkg vs RPM
Both managability and build packages.  I have heard a lot
of "good things" about dpkg.
Customization of the distro
We do a lot of customization to our distro.  Can this easily
be done with debian?
Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart)
This is also something fairly important.  We need this as we do a
lot of mass installs.

Thanks
-jeremy

Re: IP forwarding

[Nathan E Norman]

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 04:44:53PM -0600, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:
> 
> Here's the problem: I don't *want* to do masq'ing.  The ethernet card/network
> subsystem is not picking up that it's supposed to forward packets from the
> cable modem (that's what it is) to the computers on my home network.
> 
> The firewall's address: 24.15.16.190
> My workstation's address: 24.15.16.179
> The gateway after the cablemodem: 24.15.16.1
> 
> Note that I don't have a whole subnet, just a few addresses.
> 
> But I think it's a more low-level problem than ipchains.  The logs show
> nothing about return packets, and I only see them with iptraf in promiscuous
> mode.  I really think it's something to do with the ethernet setup.
> 
> But what?

Forwarding implies routing.  This isn't routing, it's bridging.  You
need to enable bridging in the kernel and set it up (I've never done
that in Linux so until I read the docs, I can't help you there).

HTH,

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Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

[Jeremy Hansen]

I'm a long time Red Hat user.  Basically the company I'm working for is
currently using Red Hat but for some reason they're considering switching
to Debian.  I personally don't have any experience with Debian abd
honestly I'm open to anything but I was hoping for some positive feedback
from people who have used both Red Hat and Debian.  My main interests are:

Dpkg vs RPM
Both managability and build packages.  I have heard a lot
of "good things" about dpkg.
Customization of the distro
We do a lot of customization to our distro.  Can this easily
be done with debian?
Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart)
This is also something fairly important.  We need this as we do a
lot of mass installs.

Thanks
-jeremy

Re: IP forwarding

[Dwayne C . Litzenberger]

> In english:
> append to forward chain that on interface ppp0 from our internal network to
> any destination jump to Masq'ing.
> 
> 

Here's the problem: I don't *want* to do masq'ing.  The ethernet card/network
subsystem is not picking up that it's supposed to forward packets from the
cable modem (that's what it is) to the computers on my home network.

The firewall's address: 24.15.16.190
My workstation's address: 24.15.16.179
The gateway after the cablemodem: 24.15.16.1

Note that I don't have a whole subnet, just a few addresses.

But I think it's a more low-level problem than ipchains.  The logs show
nothing about return packets, and I only see them with iptraf in promiscuous
mode.  I really think it's something to do with the ethernet setup.

But what?

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Rename Workgroup,etc.

[Jay Kelly]

Where do I change my computer Name, Workgroup and how do I rename the Samba
Server?

svgatextmode

[Stephen E. Schafer]

I have checked the man page and email the maintainer of this program all
without being able to understand how to get the program to work.  I have set
X up several times, but this console display program causes me no end of
concern.  I don't want to have to try to reinstall everything because I
screw up setting up this program, but I now have debian set up in console
mode only, which is how I want it until I learn more without GUI, but
enhanced console mode would be nice.

Help, please.

Steve

RE: IP forwarding

[Mullins, Ron]

> As soon as I do an "ipchains -P MASQ" (yes, I know that's 
> evil), the pings
> work.  So, I can do masquerading.

(lightning bolt to head) As stated in the IPMasq Howto, "Ja, you do have to
state masq'ing packets. Forwarding chain doesn't mean outside all the time."

Besides all the other chains listed in the Howto is specifically the
following:

ipchains -A forward -i (ppp0?) -s (internal network) -d (any or 0.0.0.0/0)
-j MASQ

In english:
append to forward chain that on interface ppp0 from our internal network to
any destination jump to Masq'ing.

Re: Alpha Server Supported

[Christopher C. Chimelis]

On Tue, 16 May 2000, Ron Farrer wrote:

> For slink (stable):
> 
> 
> I'm not sure for potato (frozen).. anyone know where the pre-release
> copies are? 

Good question.  Basically, any Alpha supported by Linux in general will
run Debian.  Check http://www.alphalinux.org for a more complete list than
I can reproduce here...

> I'm CC'ing debian-alpha as I'm not sure what the status of the Compaq
> compilers are? 

Compaq's Fortran compiler will run on Debian, although I'd either install
potato now or wait until it's released.  'cfal' runs great on my
(potato) alpha, but I don't have a slink Alpha ATM, so it's untested...

C

Re: Where is gcc in unstable?

[Colin Watson]

"Diethelm Guallar, Gonzalo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have been keeping my system updated to unstable,
>and for a few weeks dselect is showing several
>suspicious obsolete packages:
>
>Section  PackageVersion
>===  =  
>develg++2.95.2-9
>develgcc2.95.2-9
>base libstdc++2.1   2.95.2-9
>base libreadlineg   2.1-12
>
>I had noticed libreadlineg there for even longer,
>and was never able to delete it (because it marked
>for deletion lots of packages that I wanted), but
>it didn't really bother me that much.

That's probably libreadlineg2 - it'll be too wide for the column in
dselect. It *is* in the oldlibs section, but a lot of packages still
depend on it.

>Now, gcc and g++, that's another story. How can they
>be marked as obsolete? What's more intriguing, I have
>been navigating around www.debian.org, and was able
>to find gcc (egcc) for the stable distribution, but
>there was no such package for unstable! What gives?
>I find it hard to believe gcc is disappearing from
>unstable? Any hints?

I'm told this was caused by the last upload of gcc et al being to the
frozen distribution only; there's a bug somewhere which means that such
uploads end up deleting the package from unstable altogether. People who
need the package can get it from potato, I suppose, and at the moment a
lot of the developers are concentrating on getting that distribution out
the door before worrying about unstable.

With any luck this'll be fixed either at the next release of gcc or when
the gcc people have some time free from potato.

>Please replay by e-mail as well as to the list. Thanks,

Cc'd.

-- 
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RE: IP forwarding

[Mullins, Ron]

> I know.  But I'm saying it doesn't even work with that.
oh... O.K.

> I know.  If you noticed, after the cat command was listed "1" 
> -- it was
> already enabled.
Duh...I was looking at a followup message that didn't display that. Sorry.
Maybe not enough coffee. :)

Could you please state kernel version and if your running slink vs. potato?
Just to see everything, could you attach your /proc/net/ip_fwchains from
when you have everything up? Do you see anything in /var/log/messages like:

May 16 11:19:37 (your machine) kernel: Packet log: input DENY (or REJECT)
ppp0 etc...? 

You would need logging turned on in your kernel to see those. You sound like
you know what you should be doing. The error then must be really obvious
(hiding in plain sight) or really buried. Your really going to have to give
everyone more info so they can help. Don't get frustrated with those trying
to help, they start simple then rack their cranial cavities.

How are you starting forwarding, setting up ipchains? Which options did you
turn on in the kernel? Do you get out (i.e. Browsing works) other than
pinging?

Re: IP forwarding

[Dwayne C . Litzenberger]

Some more information about my problem:

As soon as I do an "ipchains -P MASQ" (yes, I know that's evil), the pings
work.  So, I can do masquerading.

It seems the routing code isn't telling my 3c509 (or tulip card, I swapped
them) card to recognize IP addresses of other nodes in the
network.  Am I having some kind of ARP problems, maybe?

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bright, and object that being able to break security doesn't make you a
hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive
engineer."
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Shareable library errors

[Paras C Patel]

Hi all, 

I'm having a particular problem in attempting to run a particular commercial 
software package (I know, I know...) [1]. I keep getting a error 
that looks like this: error in loading shared libraries: undefined symbol 
_xstat. (I've also seen an error about something called __setfpucw if 
I perform an ldd -r on the executable.)

Does anyone have any idea what this problem may ultimately be related to? 
I'm current running Debian 2.2 (potato) on an intel architecture. 

Any insight out there, 

Thanks, 

Paras Patel. 
MIT Lincoln Laboratory

[1] This particular company claims to support Redhat[2], specifically version 
6.1, I believe. 

[2] Ironically, I was just running RedHat a year ago. 

Re: Samba Setup

[Gary Hennigan]

Jay Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I notice when I go into /etc there isnt a file named smb.conf. Does that
> mean that samba is not installed or do I need to create the file myself?

On Debian it's in /etc/samba. "locate", "find" and "dpkg -S" are your
friends!

Gary

Re: IP forwarding

[Dwayne C . Litzenberger]

So to sum it all up: "RTFM" is your answer.  I did.  What I have seems very
odd (almost flaky).  Read my original post for the problem.

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hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive
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Re: IP forwarding

[Dwayne C . Litzenberger]

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 05:05:42PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> > I have a box that I want to do IP forwarding.  But, I can't ping outside
> > hosts through it.  The firewall sends packets from me, but it doesn't
> > re-forward the ICMP echo replies (although you can see them with iptraf in
> > promiscuous mode) back.
> 
> just an idea to make it easier to spot the error:
> add ipchains rules, which do logging:
> ipchains -A {input|output|forward} -j ACCEPT -l
> look, what happens then.

I'll see about that.

> possibly your problem is a routing one. does pinging the hosts from the
> gateway work?

Yep.  It works fine.  Also, the pings are actually going out of the firewall
and coming back, but the firewall doesn't seem to see them to route them back.  
In fact, I can only tell that the replies are coming back when I use iptraf
and put the card in promiscuous mode.

-- 
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bright, and object that being able to break security doesn't make you a
hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive
engineer."
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Where is gcc in unstable?

[Diethelm Guallar, Gonzalo]

Title: Where is gcc in unstable?





This will probably qualify me as a newbie, but
here it goes anyway...


I have been keeping my system updated to unstable,
and for a few weeks dselect is showing several
suspicious obsolete packages:


Section  Package    Version
===  =  
devel    g++    2.95.2-9
devel    gcc    2.95.2-9
base libstdc++2.1   2.95.2-9
base libreadlineg   2.1-12


I had noticed libreadlineg there for even longer,
and was never able to delete it (because it marked
for deletion lots of packages that I wanted), but
it didn't really bother me that much.


Now, gcc and g++, that's another story. How can they
be marked as obsolete? What's more intriguing, I have
been navigating around www.debian.org, and was able
to find gcc (egcc) for the stable distribution, but
there was no such package for unstable! What gives?
I find it hard to believe gcc is disappearing from
unstable? Any hints?


Please replay by e-mail as well as to the list. Thanks,



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Re: Alpha Server Supported

[Ron Farrer]

Romero Orellana, Ricardo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> I need to know what are the Compaq Alphas Servers supported by Debian Linux,
> and if Compaq Fortran for Linux Compiler run over Debian/Alpha. Thanks in
> advanced. 

For slink (stable):


I'm not sure for potato (frozen).. anyone know where the pre-release
copies are? 

If you have not done so already you will probably want to join
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body to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 

I'm CC'ing debian-alpha as I'm not sure what the status of the Compaq
compilers are? 


HTH,

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Re: Tape Backup Problem

[Jesse Jacobsen]

On 05/16/00, Robert Waldner addressed "Re: Tape Backup Problem":
> I had the same experience on kernel 2.0.38 with a HP DDS-2 when
> using taper and/or kbackup. Settled down for plain tar.

Plain tar is nice in some ways, but unless there's hardware
compression, using compression is risky.   I've been using afio, which
allows you to compress file-by-file.  Like tar, it fits nicely into
scripts, and creates reasonably accessible archives.

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ip traffic control

[runner]

Hi !

Is there a tool which can handle the maximum limit of kilobites 
what a user can use ? I want to restrict the usage of bandwith for 
every people. Example the online editor could use the bandwith 
upto 20kb-s but the secretary only could use 3 kbits maximum. So 
she could start to download the big avis and mp3-s but couldn't eat 
all of the bandwith with 5 simoultanous download.
Thanks,
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RE: Samba Setup

[Jay Kelly]

I notice when I go into /etc there isnt a file named smb.conf. Does that
mean that samba is not installed or do I need to create the file myself?

-Original Message-
From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:27 AM
To: Jay Kelly
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Samba Setup


Odd.. I don't have netscape 4.x installed, but the newest mozilla.
I installed swat to test it out ( I am on woody ), hmm.. do you have
nmap installed? sending the output of `nmap localhost` might help,
just to ensure that SWAT is running on port 901.

Hmm, the "Broken Pipe" error does seem to indicate some other problem..
perhaps use 'nmap localhost` and `lynx localhost:901` and post the
output to the list, that should make things more apparent..


Rob


On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 07:43:25PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:
> What does it mean when I try to connect though Netscape and I get a error
of
> Network Error: Broken Pipe???
> Cant seem to still connect. I have swat in my /etc services and in
> inetd.conf. Any Idea's
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 7:18 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Samba Setup
>
>
> Hi Jay,
>
>
> I assume you are trying to configure samba through SWAT..
> ( I like using the manpage and editing smb.conf,
>   but that's me :)
>
> Is SWAT in your /etc/inetd NOT commented out ( without a
> # in front of it ), is inetd running, which port are you
> trying to connect to?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
> Namodn
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 06:46:43PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:
> > I need some help setting up Samba.. Sorry to keep bugin you guys . Im
> > getting there. I try to configure samba thought netscape but I am
gettting
> > an error Netscapes connection was refused by the server. Im sure I
> installed
> > it when I installed Debian. Any Ideas guys
> >
> >
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ipchains error

[Chris Mason]

I have downloaded the 2.2.15 kernal sources to compile my own kernel soo I
can roll in the drivers for my trl8139.o card, but there is no option for
that card in the config script (using make menuconfig). There was under
2.0.36. Am I missing somehting or has support for that card been
discontinued?Chris Mason
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Re: Mail Server

[Davide Libenzi]

Sorry no howto yet, but if read well this :

http://www.maticad.it/davide/xmaildoc.htm

You can easily setup a working server.
I suggest You to read well this document to fine setup Your
server especially for a security and relay point of view.
I've planned anyway to setup an howto asap.



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Re: LyX crashed and now doesn't work

[Lee Bradshaw]

My problem with lyx and the Options/Reconfigure selection seems to
have been caused by a bad environment variable. I had set TEXINPUTS in
my .bashrc file to a set of paths I needed for a document at work over
a year ago. When I commented out the TEXINPUTS= statement,
Options/Reconfigure started working properly.

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RE: Mail Server

[Jay Kelly]

Is there a How-To I can look at to help me set this up

-Original Message-
From: Davide Libenzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:42 PM
To: Jay Kelly; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Maikl Server


If You need a "one package" solution ( SMTP + POP3 + FINGER ) You can try :

http://www.maticad.it/davide/xmail.asp

Otherwise You can try :

http://www.qmail.org

or

http://www.sendmail.org

But if You use the latest two You must also install something like :

http://www.eudora.com/freeware/qpop.html

to get a POP3 access.



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RE: Samba Setup

[Jay Kelly]

Ok, When I run lynx localhost:901 I get errorAlert! Unexpected network read
error; connection aborted. Alert! Unable to access document.

And if I try nmap I get command not found.
So what do you think I need to do?

-Original Message-
From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:27 AM
To: Jay Kelly
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Samba Setup


Odd.. I don't have netscape 4.x installed, but the newest mozilla.
I installed swat to test it out ( I am on woody ), hmm.. do you have
nmap installed? sending the output of `nmap localhost` might help,
just to ensure that SWAT is running on port 901.

Hmm, the "Broken Pipe" error does seem to indicate some other problem..
perhaps use 'nmap localhost` and `lynx localhost:901` and post the
output to the list, that should make things more apparent..


Rob


On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 07:43:25PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:
> What does it mean when I try to connect though Netscape and I get a error
of
> Network Error: Broken Pipe???
> Cant seem to still connect. I have swat in my /etc services and in
> inetd.conf. Any Idea's
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 7:18 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Samba Setup
>
>
> Hi Jay,
>
>
> I assume you are trying to configure samba through SWAT..
> ( I like using the manpage and editing smb.conf,
>   but that's me :)
>
> Is SWAT in your /etc/inetd NOT commented out ( without a
> # in front of it ), is inetd running, which port are you
> trying to connect to?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
> Namodn
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 06:46:43PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:
> > I need some help setting up Samba.. Sorry to keep bugin you guys . Im
> > getting there. I try to configure samba thought netscape but I am
gettting
> > an error Netscapes connection was refused by the server. Im sure I
> installed
> > it when I installed Debian. Any Ideas guys
> >
> >
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RE: hide the commabd executed from ps,who

[incarest]

On 16 May 00, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
>On 16-May-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>How can I hide the commond I am executing so that people can't see
>>it from ps,or who?For example,if i use mysql by typing mysql -u
>>myname -p passsword ..people can see my password...So it would be
>>good if I can hide what i am doing from other user...espcially for
>>some program which I can specify my password in command line...
>
>don't put your password on the commandline.  Even if ps does not show
>it, it will appear in /proc.

It is probably also worth pointing out that typing passwords at the 
command line is a bad idea in general (even for single user systems) 
for previous commands are stored in clear text in the history file.

If you type your password at the command line if someone gets access 
to your account that can easily determine your other passwords.


Ian

Alpha Server Supported

[Romero Orellana, Ricardo]

Title: Alpha Server Supported





Hi Debian Users,


I need to know what are the Compaq Alphas Servers supported by Debian Linux, and if Compaq Fortran for Linux Compiler run over Debian/Alpha. Thanks in advanced. 


Saludos,


Ricardo Romero
Software Product Manager


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Re: xntp

[Robert Waldner]

On Tue, 16 May 2000 20:18:08 BST, john writes:
>I wish to keep time synchronised by using my ISP's timeserver. This box
>is a stand-alone one, and I connect using a modem.
>
>After installing xntp3 and xntp3-doc packages, I find the docs far too
>complex to fully understand, and the program aims for far greater
>accuracy than I need.

Ahemm, if you´re not that paranoid, just use ntpdate, maybe out of
/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ .

hth,
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Re: hide the commabd executed from ps,who

[Robert Waldner]

On Tue, 16 May 2000 11:56:07 PDT, "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" writes:
>On 16-May-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> How can I hide the commond I am executing so that people can't see
>> it from ps,or who?For example,if i use mysql by typing mysql -u myname -p
>> passsword ..people can see my password...So it would be good if I can
>> hide what i am doing from other user...espcially for some program which 
>> I can specify my password in command line...
>
>don't put your password on the commandline.  Even if ps does not show it, it
>will appear in /proc.

So the real question is: how can you manage so that not everything in /proc
is world-readable (is that´s possible by design)?

[waldner:~] ls -al /proc/
dr-xr-xr-x3 root root0 May 16 21:05 1
dr-xr-xr-x3 root root0 May 16 21:05 16
dr-xr-xr-x3 waldner  users   0 May 16 21:10 1779
...
[waldner:~] ls -la /proc/1/
dr-xr-xr-x3 root root0 May 16 21:05 .
dr-xr-xr-x5 root root0 May 16 20:10 ..
-r--r--r--1 root root0 May 16 21:11 cmdline
...

Does really every process have to know about each others commandline?

I would´ve imagined that the perms in /proc would depend on the perms
of the executed program, but:

[waldner:~] ls -la setiathome
-rwx--1 waldner  waldner328608 Jan 23 20:31 setiathome

[waldner:~] pidof ./setiathome 
1909

[root:~] su - tina
$ ls -la /proc/1909/
dr-xr-xr-x3 waldner  users   0 May 16 21:18 .
dr-xr-xr-x5 root root0 May 16 20:10 ..
-r--r--r--1 waldner  users   0 May 16 21:18 cmdline
...
$ cat !$cmdline
cat /proc/1909/cmdline
./setiathome-nice19


Or is there an error in my logic?

(I think I´m gonna be more careful now when running something on
servers with lots o´ accounts...)

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Re: Making my vt320 useful

[Eric]

TERM was set to vt320.  I have switched my inittab to say:
T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -Lhwi ttyS1 38400 wy185
now though, so not TERM is wy185 (which is the model of my terminal).
i don't think the /etc/gettydefs is necessary anyways since i specify
my terminal type as an argument to getty.

having switched terminal types, my situation has changed a bit.  i now 
have a few different problems (but things are a bit better in
general):

1. if my terminal is on while i boot it gets all sort of ugly weird
characters on it.

2. the arrow keys don't function as arrow keys in the shell (instead
of getting my history when i hit up i get a listing of tab-completions 
and a trailing 'A').  the arrows do work, however, in jed (emacs like
editor).

3. i can only run jed once.  it works perfectly the first time,
arrows, escape, all the Control-key combos i want.  however, the
second time i run it i just get junk on my screen...a whole bunch of
weird escape sequences and a lot of beeping from an unhappy terminal.

any ideas on how to fix these?

eric.

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 02:33:10PM -0400, Lewis, James M. wrote:
> Is your TERM variable set to vt320?  There are also a bunch of wyse
> types.  See /usr/lib/terminfo/v/* and /usr/lib/terminfo/w/*. (or
> /usr/share/terminfo/...)
> 
> On other systems there is a file in /etc/ that specifies what kind
> of terminal is on which serial line (gettydefs or ttytype or something
> like that).  I don't see it on my system.  I have the stock getty
> and it might take one of the other getty packages to have that file...
> 
> jim
> 
> > --
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> > Sent:   Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:34 PM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:Making my vt320 useful
> > 
> > actually, it's not a vt320, it's a wyse which emulates a vt320.  my
> > question is this:  how do i get special keystrokes like control-X to
> > go through as if i was typing on a local tty?  The arrows and any
> > control-key combination that isn't ^C (or a few others which are
> > recognized by stty i think) just print out on the screen.  this makes
> > it very difficult to use emacs.  :)  when i hit ^X i literally see
> > ^X.  when i hit escape, i see ^].  the arrows do the same thing ^[[A
> > and so on...  can somebody point me to the correct program/config file 
> > i use to set this kind of stuff up?
> > 
> > thanks,
> > eric.
> > 
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xntp

[john]

I wish to keep time synchronised by using my ISP's timeserver. This box
is a stand-alone one, and I connect using a modem.

After installing xntp3 and xntp3-doc packages, I find the docs far too
complex to fully understand, and the program aims for far greater
accuracy than I need.

/etc/ntp.conf allows for an xntpd logfile, a directory for ntpstats (loopstats,
peerstats and clockstats) and a driftfile. I have edited the file to include
the server (tick..net).

When I run /usr/sbin/xntpd, I appear to connect and the program seems
to start, but I cannot tell from the log if it has been successful. (Before
starting, I ascertained from timeticker that the clock was out by some
52 secs).

/var/log/xntpd shows the following:-

20.19.55 xntpd [171] synchronized to , stratum =2
20.20.29 xntpd [171] time reset (stop) 33.461355 s
20.20.29 xntpd [171] synchronization lost

20.27.00 xntpd [171] synchronized to , stratum =3
20.30.13  synchronization lost

20.32.20  synchronizsed to , stratum =2
20.35.33  synchronization lost

I can't understand the /var/log/ntpstats files (loopstats and peerstats)
as the columns seem not to relate to what /etc/ntp.conf suggests to
me they should. At the same time, one column which could refer to
time differences in seconds could indicate an attempt was made
to synchronize - the first entries 53.xxx, the next 0.xxx
and the last lot -1.xxx.

Are there any explanatory notes (preferably in simple terms) for the
contents of the ntpstat log files?  Can anyone offer any ideas as to
where I should go from here?

Grateful for any assistance,
John.

RE: hide the commabd executed from ps,who

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 16-May-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How can I hide the commond I am executing so that people can't see
> it from ps,or who?For example,if i use mysql by typing mysql -u myname -p
> passsword ..people can see my password...So it would be good if I can
> hide what i am doing from other user...espcially for some program which 
> I can specify my password in command line...
> 

don't put your password on the commandline.  Even if ps does not show it, it
will appear in /proc.

Re: Tape Backup Problem

[Robert Waldner]

>Debian 2.0 with Kernel 2.2.2 running on a Dell with
>a Quantum DLT4000 tape drive.
>
>Details:
>I attempted to do a test backup a 150meg directory to tape
>using the tape
>backup program "Taper"  After about 10min of it running (46%

I had the same experience on kernel 2.0.38 with a HP DDS-2 when
using taper and/or kbackup. Settled down for plain tar.

hth,
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hypenation in tetex

[Igor Mozetic]

How does one change hypenation in potato tetex ??
I've run texconfig and changed the /etc/texmf/language.dat - no effect.
When I run Latex I still get the original hypenation:

This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1)
(avt.tex
LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1
Babel  and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, n
ohyphenation, loaded.
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size12.clo))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty beta test version (koi8-r.def))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/russianb.ldf
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.def)

Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for
(babel)the language `Russian'
(babel)I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 instead.

-Igor Mozetic

Re: Epson 740

[Matthew Thompson]

Thanks again for the reply. :)

I tried the command you suggested for a text file and for a .ps file:

# lpr -Plp4 test.ps

# lpr -Pascii ftp://mattyt.net/pub/printcap

Thanks for your help and patience... :)

-Cheers

> If you used apsfilter, your printcap probably has several printers
> defined. To print to the ascii printer, I use the command
> lpr -Pascii file.txt
> 
> For postscript files, I use one of the other printers. For printing from
> windows to the printserver I use the raw printer shared via samba.
> 
> You should probably read over the printing howto. There's some good
> info there. Then check out the man page for lpr and related utilitys.
> 
> Hope that helps some.
> 
> On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 01:42:37PM -0700, Matthew Thompson wrote:
> > Well, I had heard that printtool was an easy program to use to set up my
> > printer, so I upgraded to 2.2 in order to install printtool.  What I
> > didn't know was that printtool is a graphical program, and I don't run any
> > XFree on my server, I don't even have a monitor or keyboard hooked up,
> > just ssh access.
> > 
> > After I upgraded, I ran apsfilterconfig again.  I chose the stcolor driver
> > and the test page printed out beautifully.  I was excited, thinking I had
> > figured it out, but when I attempt to print a text file, the printer feeds
> > the paper in, prints a little, then hangs with the paper halfway in.
> > After a bit I push the paper feed button, and the printer has printed
> > 'unknown device: escp2'.
> > 
> > Should I be using the lpr command or something else?  What else can I
> > check?  I'm pulling my hair out, here, guys.
> > 
> > TIA... :)
> > 
> > > It sounds to me that you didnt restart lprng after you configured your 
> > > printer. I'm using lprng, and apsfilter and my setup looks very similar
> > > to yours. Check the paths for all the print filters, but what you
> > > have looks very similar to what I'm currently using.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 12:12:48PM -0700, Matthew Thompson wrote:
> > > > Ment (may I call you Ment? ;),
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for your reply. :)  Sometimes I feel pretty thick, since I've 
> > > > been
> > > > using Debian for about 3 years and still stumble over stuff like this.
> > > > *sigh*  Anyway, you willing to spoon-feed me a bit, here?
> > > > 
> > > > I already had gsfonts installed, so I installed apsfilter using dselect.
> > > > It ran me through the config, and I chose the following printer:
> > > > 
> > > > escp2: Epson ESC/P 2 language printers, including Stylus 800
> > > > 
> > > > I set the other values it asked for, and it finished, saying cheerfully
> > > > 'we made it!'. ;)
> > > > 
> > > > I then attempted to print a text file with:
> > > > 
> > > > # lpr 
> > > > 
> > > > and got this output:
> > > > 
> > > > no printcap for printer 'ascii'
> > > > job 'cfA758doma.mattyt.net' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed
> > > > 
> > > > :sh:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm afraid I don't know where to go from here.  BTW, I'm using lprng
> > > > instead of lpr on a friend's suggestion ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), if that 
> > > > makes
> > > > any difference.
> > > > 
> > > > Hope I'm not too big a PITA. :)
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers...
> > > > 
> > > > On Sat, 13 May 2000, Mental wrote:
> > > 
> > 
> > Matthew Thompson   http://mattyt.net
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.oz.net/~mattyt
> > --Someday, I'll have a web page.--
> > 
> 
> 
> --
> Mental
> 
> "When in doubt, use brute force."
>   --Ken Thompson (author of unix)
> 
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> GPG 1.0.1 Public Key: http://www.neverlight.com/mental-gpg.asc
> 

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hide the commabd executed from ps,who

[50191914]

How can I hide the commond I am executing so that people can't see
it from ps,or who?For example,if i use mysql by typing mysql -u myname -p
passsword ..people can see my password...So it would be good if I can
hide what i am doing from other user...espcially for some program which 
I can specify my password in command line...

RE: Wanted a free library for computational geometry

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 16-May-2000 Daniele Cruciani wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm going to write some programs of computational geometry, so i
> need a library (probably a set of libs) for data type and
> algorithms. AFAIK there are 2 library that could hit my need:
> LEDA (http://www.mpi-sb.mpg.de/LEDA/) for data type and CGAL
> (http://www.cs.ruu.nl/CGAL/) for algorithms.
> But no one of that are GPLed.
> 
> I think I can use glib in place of LEDA, but it's not enought for me
> so i need to link agaist something other.
> I've no starting point at all for replacement of CGAL.
> 
> 
> Any suggestion?
> 

I am assuming that you have searched google.com and freshmeat?  Python has
numerous math libs, perhaps you could crib some of their work.  Much of their
math code is actually in C, then wrapped as a python module.

RE: Making my vt320 useful

[Lewis, James M.]

Is your TERM variable set to vt320?  There are also a bunch of wyse
types.  See /usr/lib/terminfo/v/* and /usr/lib/terminfo/w/*. (or
/usr/share/terminfo/...)

On other systems there is a file in /etc/ that specifies what kind
of terminal is on which serial line (gettydefs or ttytype or something
like that).  I don't see it on my system.  I have the stock getty
and it might take one of the other getty packages to have that file...

jim

> --
> From: Eric[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:34 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Making my vt320 useful
> 
> actually, it's not a vt320, it's a wyse which emulates a vt320.  my
> question is this:  how do i get special keystrokes like control-X to
> go through as if i was typing on a local tty?  The arrows and any
> control-key combination that isn't ^C (or a few others which are
> recognized by stty i think) just print out on the screen.  this makes
> it very difficult to use emacs.  :)  when i hit ^X i literally see
> ^X.  when i hit escape, i see ^].  the arrows do the same thing ^[[A
> and so on...  can somebody point me to the correct program/config file 
> i use to set this kind of stuff up?
> 
> thanks,
> eric.
> 
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Wanted a free library for computational geometry

[Daniele Cruciani]

Hi,

I'm going to write some programs of computational geometry, so i
need a library (probably a set of libs) for data type and
algorithms. AFAIK there are 2 library that could hit my need:
LEDA (http://www.mpi-sb.mpg.de/LEDA/) for data type and CGAL
(http://www.cs.ruu.nl/CGAL/) for algorithms.
But no one of that are GPLed.

I think I can use glib in place of LEDA, but it's not enought for me
so i need to link agaist something other.
I've no starting point at all for replacement of CGAL.


Any suggestion?

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Re: Tape Backup Problem

[Kevin]

I had the same problem, but I had a scsi HP and I only tried
taper.  I was using 2.2.12 with slink.

Kevin

- Original Message -
From: "JoeCool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ;

Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 10:18 AM
Subject: Tape Backup Problem


Hi All,

I've been trying to get tape backup working on a server and
almost everytime
I attempt to backup files to the tape drive the machine goes
crazy.  The
load goes sky high (way over 100.00) and it stops responding
to everything.
Maybe someone out there has some insight on the problem.

Specs:
Debian 2.0 with Kernel 2.2.2 running on a Dell with
a Quantum DLT4000 tape drive.

Details:
I attempted to do a test backup a 150meg directory to tape
using the tape
backup program "Taper"  After about 10min of it running (46%
done) the
machines load starting going up and up.  I tried to stop the
program, and
kill it but was unable to since machine stop responding to
my commands via
telnet.  The load was very high... --> load average: 246.98,
267.86, 210.28
Then i couldn't even telnet to the machine or anything.
Everything appeared
to be down, except that I could ping the machine.
Finally about 30min later I was able to telnet back into the
machine.

I noticed several of the following messages in the messages
file and also
when i typed "dmesg"
--
May  3 14:23:23 taz kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid
228089503) timed out -
resetting
May  3 14:23:23 taz kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host
0 channel 0.
--

So a week later I attempted again with tape backup using a
different
program.  this time i used "Tob".
I did a small test backup using a 20meg directory.  It
appeared to work
fine.  I was able to backup and restore the files.
I then attempted to backup a 2gig directory.
After about 15min the machine went crazy like last time and
load went up and
I got locked out so I had to have someone reboot the
machine.
Didn't see any error messages in any logs or anything.

Anyone ever expierance this problem?
Anyone have any ideas what might be causing it?
I been trying to figure it out for a couple weeks now with
no luck.
Any help is appreciated.

TIA
-Joe






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Re: installing a printer

[Pollywog]

On 16-May-2000 17:28:03 Daniel Reuter wrote:
> Get the Printing-HOWTO at
> http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO.html
> There, all the steps are described. In short:
> 1. install printer spooling software (usually lpr or lprng)
> 2. install filter software (magicfilter or apsfilter, would be good
> to
> install all the tools, which they recommend (gs, jpeg-progs and the
> like)
> 3. run magicfilterconfig to configure your /etc/printcap file

I have done all these things, but I thought I still needed to obtain
a driver for the printer, in order to print PostScript and formats
other than ASCII text.
> 
>> I am getting an Epson Stylus Color 740 and I will use the parallel
>> connector until the 2.4 kernels are released.
> 
> There was something about the Epson Stylus Color 740 on this list
> just a
> while ago. If it doesn't work, look at these mails or in the
> archive.

Thanks, I will check the archive.

> 
>> I will need to recompile my kernel with printer support
> 
> No you don't, because:
> The lp-module and the parport-modules will get installed
> during the installation of Debian (even if you didn't configure
> them
> during installation!), so if you didn't accidentally remove
> them, you should just make sure, that they are loaded, when
> printing.
> (Try the program modconf to tell your system which modules to load
> on
> startup and to configure them).
> Although it would not be a bad idea to recompile your kernel. It
> usually
> makes your system faster and the kernel smaller (as you can exclude
> drivers, which you don't need).

I have compiled a development kernel and I made sure to add parallel
printer and USB support.  I just obtained a script for iptables, so I
can start using the 2.3 kernel.

thanks

--
Andrew

Re: installing a printer

[Daniel Reuter]

Hello Pollywog,

On Sat, 13 May 2000, Pollywog wrote:

> I did not configure a printer when I installed Debian.  Is there a
> tool to help me configure a printer now without reinstalling Debian?

Of course you can configure a printer without reinstalling. The Debian way
of doing things lets you do almost everything without even rebooting
(remember: Linux is NOT at all like Windoze;-)
(There are some exceptions, e.g. if you compiled a new kernel and want to
start with it).
Get the Printing-HOWTO at
http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO.html
There, all the steps are described. In short:
1. install printer spooling software (usually lpr or lprng)
2. install filter software (magicfilter or apsfilter, would be good to
install all the tools, which they recommend (gs, jpeg-progs and the like)
3. run magicfilterconfig to configure your /etc/printcap file

> I am getting an Epson Stylus Color 740 and I will use the parallel
> connector until the 2.4 kernels are released.

There was something about the Epson Stylus Color 740 on this list just a
while ago. If it doesn't work, look at these mails or in the archive.

> I will need to recompile my kernel with printer support

No you don't, because:
The lp-module and the parport-modules will get installed
during the installation of Debian (even if you didn't configure them
during installation!), so if you didn't accidentally remove
them, you should just make sure, that they are loaded, when printing.
(Try the program modconf to tell your system which modules to load on
startup and to configure them).
Although it would not be a bad idea to recompile your kernel. It usually
makes your system faster and the kernel smaller (as you can exclude
drivers, which you don't need).

Regards,
Daniel

Tape Backup Problem

[JoeCool]

Hi All,

I've been trying to get tape backup working on a server and almost everytime
I attempt to backup files to the tape drive the machine goes crazy.  The
load goes sky high (way over 100.00) and it stops responding to everything.
Maybe someone out there has some insight on the problem.

Specs:
Debian 2.0 with Kernel 2.2.2 running on a Dell with
a Quantum DLT4000 tape drive.

Details:
I attempted to do a test backup a 150meg directory to tape using the tape
backup program "Taper"  After about 10min of it running (46% done) the
machines load starting going up and up.  I tried to stop the program, and
kill it but was unable to since machine stop responding to my commands via
telnet.  The load was very high... --> load average: 246.98, 267.86, 210.28
Then i couldn't even telnet to the machine or anything.  Everything appeared
to be down, except that I could ping the machine.
Finally about 30min later I was able to telnet back into the machine.

I noticed several of the following messages in the messages file and also
when i typed "dmesg"
--
May  3 14:23:23 taz kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 228089503) timed out -
resetting
May  3 14:23:23 taz kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
--

So a week later I attempted again with tape backup using a different
program.  this time i used "Tob".
I did a small test backup using a 20meg directory.  It appeared to work
fine.  I was able to backup and restore the files.
I then attempted to backup a 2gig directory.
After about 15min the machine went crazy like last time and load went up and
I got locked out so I had to have someone reboot the machine.
Didn't see any error messages in any logs or anything.

Anyone ever expierance this problem?
Anyone have any ideas what might be causing it?
I been trying to figure it out for a couple weeks now with no luck.
Any help is appreciated.

TIA
-Joe

Re: amd home map

[Mark Brown]

On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 03:54:29PM -0600, Barak Pearlmutter wrote:

> > I have the actual home directories on the server in /disk/home>

> Doesn't this mean that all your home directories live on a single
> server?  The reason we are considering amd (or autofs if it is
> capable) is to be able to have different users' home directories live
> on different machines.

AMD can do it.  I've never played with autofs.  One thing you can do is
to use multiple layers of indirection - have one map which maps from a
/home directory (or whatever) onto the real homedir volumes which are
themselves automounted from the appropriate hosts.  You could just share
a symlink farm, but with a map you should reduce network traffic.

There's also nothing requiring you to have all homedirs under /home
except conveninece.

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ReiserFS and USB (was Re: udf kernel patch)

[Graeme Mathieson]

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Hi,

Kristian Rink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anybody have an idea what to do to get both USB *and*
> rfs in the same kernel? Is there an USB patch for 2.3.99?

2.3.99pre-n has USB already in it.  Also, the bunch that are producing 
ReiserFS are alledgedly working hard to produce a patch suitable for
inclusion in 2.3.x.  They have one available, but last I noticed it wasn't
absolutely finished/tested and it wasn't compatible with existing
2.2.x ReiserFS filesystems[1].  Maybe the situation is different now - 
I've given up trying to read the linux-kernel mailing list and just stick
to kernel-traffic instead.

[1] They changed the metadata format slightly, IIRC.
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Re: Maikl Server

[Graeme Mathieson]

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Hi,

Jay Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm looking to run a mail server similar to Microsoft Exchange. Is there
> something for debian out there I can use? If so what's the url?

I've never come across one that buggy for Debian. :)

There are dozens.  The common term for them is Mail Transport Agents (MTAs).
So anything in Debian that provides the virtual packages
mail-transport-agent will do you nicely.  Examples include:

sendmail
postfix
qmail
smail
exim

There are more.  I like sendmail, but if you're just starting out, I wouldn't
really recommend it.  Postfix is very highly regarded.

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Re: Going from DHCP -> Static IP network config

[Graeme Mathieson]

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Hi,

"S. Salman Ahmed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What config files do I need to modify to change this box's networking
> setup from DHCP-based to one using a static IP address ? Or is there
> some to rerun the networking scripts that were part of the Debian
> installation ?

Simplest solution?  Get your network admin to put you static IP address
in his DHCP config.  That way, your system will still work with DHCP, but
it'll always pick up the same address.

Otherwise, look at /etc/network/interfaces.  For recent versions of potato,
it's well documented.  You're going to want something along the lines of:

iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.54.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.54.0
broadcast 192.168.54.255
gateway 192.168.54.254

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Re: bashrc

[Graeme Mathieson]

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Hi,

montefin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1.) Edit his/her MOTD file to print to screen a set text message at
> login. (Edit your /etc/motd file, Avinash, to make it say what you want
> it to say.)

But, as I said before, leave the first line blank.  When the system is
rebooted, the first line will be replaced with the contents of `uname -a`
unless you edit /etc/default/rcS and set EDITMOTD=no.

> 2.) Attach a signature.txt file to his/her outgoing mail, such as I have
> attached to mine below. Write one in your home directory
> (~/signature.txt) and point your mail app to it, _but_ only 4 lines,
> Avinash, or you're gonna get back more mail than you care to read :)

s/\.signature\.txt/.signature/g

> ALTHILTM,

WTF does that mean? :)

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Re: amd home map

[Graeme Mathieson]

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Hi,

Barak Pearlmutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > From: Graeme Mathieson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > For autofs ...
> > I have the actual home directories on the server in /disk/home>
> 
> Doesn't this mean that all your home directories live on a single
> server?  The reason we are considering amd (or autofs if it is
> capable) is to be able to have different users' home directories live
> on different machines.

Couple of ways this can be achieved.  You could explicitly list all the
individual users' home directories in your auto.home map, for example:

graeme  server1:/disk/homes/u1/graeme
derek   server2:/disk/homes/u1/derek
peter   server1:/disk/homes/u2/peter

etc.  Initially, it looks to be very inefficient, but it can probably
be generated quite simply.  I've seen it implemented this way using
amd (only difference being that they used hesiod maps instead of
NIS maps).

Another way to achieve it is an executable map.  You're auto.master would
have something along the lines of:

/home program:/usr/local/bin/home-map --timeout 60

And home-map  could be a shell/perl/c program which takes the key as an
argument, and returns a single line of a map on STDOUT, or no output
at all if the key cannot be matched.

The executable map would be a far more elegant solution, but I suspect
that it has be potential to be slower.  OTOH, it could well lighten the
load on your NIS server.

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Re: Quick Question

[Graeme Mathieson]

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Hi,

"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 'apt-get install communicator' at the command prompt with root privileges.

Or if you find the mai/news/composer stuff to be excess crap which you'll
not use, you can do 'apt-get install navigator' and live happily ever
after. :)

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Re: Couple questions

[Graeme Mathieson]

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Hi,

Cameron Matheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What's the difference between typing 'su', and 'su root'?

Nothing at all.  Just that instead of typing 'su root', you can also do
'su otheruser'.

> Are their any noticable differences between the 2.2.14 kernel and
> 2.2.15?

I2O support has been added.  Fixes merged in for ISDN and a bunch of other
drivers.  There have been a few races/bugs sorted out.  ISTR that the
VM has been tweaked a little.  The release notes will tell you it in all
the gory details.  Have a look at:

http://www.linux.org.uk/

and follow the relevant link.

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Re: amd home map

[Graeme Mathieson]

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Hi,

"Michael Janssen (CS/MATH stud.) " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> ...  It seems, after looking at the init.d script, there's no
> default way to automount something locally AND by NIS also.. 

Take a look at the patch in my previous posting.  That (appears to)
solve the problem.  It's also filed under bug #64147 in the BTS.  Of
course, I should probably have marked it as Severity: wishlist...

Or are you looking to take part of the map for the same mountpoint from
NIS and part from the local filesystem?  Why?  Why not just use two
separate mountpoints?

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g++

[Michiel Meeuwissen]

I think there is something wrong with my g++ (using the latest version of
frozen). 

If I make a file only containing

#include  
main(){}

or 

$include 

then:

~$ g++ test.cpp
test.cpp:1: iostream: No such file or directory


But:

~$ g++ -I /usr/include/g++-3 test.cpp
~$

I think it should work also without the -I option, since 'iostream' and STL
etc are standard parts of C++, aren't they? And I am sure that it _did_ work
without this -I option. 

So my question is if this happens only on my system, and if so how do I
solve it (i supposed that there would be some environment variable with the
include path, but I don't seem to be able to find this information).

thanks,

  Michiel


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Making my vt320 useful

[Eric]

actually, it's not a vt320, it's a wyse which emulates a vt320.  my
question is this:  how do i get special keystrokes like control-X to
go through as if i was typing on a local tty?  The arrows and any
control-key combination that isn't ^C (or a few others which are
recognized by stty i think) just print out on the screen.  this makes
it very difficult to use emacs.  :)  when i hit ^X i literally see
^X.  when i hit escape, i see ^].  the arrows do the same thing ^[[A
and so on...  can somebody point me to the correct program/config file 
i use to set this kind of stuff up?

thanks,
eric.

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Re: Where can I download Potato?

[pseelig]

On Tue, 16 May 2000, Menno Slaats wrote:

> Does anyone have the exactly URL of it?
> 
"ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/";.

Re: IP forwarding

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> I have a box that I want to do IP forwarding.  But, I can't ping outside
> hosts through it.  The firewall sends packets from me, but it doesn't
> re-forward the ICMP echo replies (although you can see them with iptraf in
> promiscuous mode) back.

just an idea to make it easier to spot the error:
add ipchains rules, which do logging:
ipchains -A {input|output|forward} -j ACCEPT -l
look, what happens then.

possibly your problem is a routing one. does pinging the hosts from the
gateway work?

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Re: IP forwarding

[Mark Schiltz]

On Tue, 16 May 2000, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:
> 
> I have a box that I want to do IP forwarding.  But, I can't ping outside
> hosts through it.  The firewall sends packets from me, but it doesn't
> re-forward the ICMP echo replies (although you can see them with iptraf in
> promiscuous mode) back.
> 
> # ipchains -L
> Chain input (policy ACCEPT):
> Chain forward (policy ACCEPT):
> Chain output (policy ACCEPT):
> 
> # cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

Dwayne,

Please don't take offense to my comments here, but there are quite a lot of
things to learn about Linux firewalls and masquerading. I was new to Linux six
months ago (still a newbie now) and wanted to create a firewall box for our
company. I read all the HOW-TO's (NETWORK, IPCHAINS, FIREWALL, MASQ, etc.) a
New Riders book by Robert Ziegler (Linux Firewalls) and also found some firewall
scripts that I used as learning tools. If you want to learn about the details of
ipchains please start with the HOWTO's and THEN the following web sites:

#-- Robert Ziegler http://www.linux-firewall-tools.com
#-- Rick Johnson http://www.pointman.org

PS: You may not see many replies to your question because there are just too
many variables involved.

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