Is there a way to unify gnome/kde menus.
I have both kde and gnome on my machine and I find that they work great... except for the menus. Moving apps like gimp and kword around on the different menus is kinda *annoying* then there's the debian menu. Argh. Has anyone tried to unify these ever? Could there be made a .deb that does this by supplying the appropriate .kdelnks and gnome-what-its. --timball -- Send mail with subject "send pgp key" for public key. pub 1024R/CFF85605 1999-06-10 Timothy L. Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Key fingerprint = 8A 8E 64 D6 21 C0 90 29 9F D6 1E DC F8 18 CB CD
Re: cannot apt-get libc6-dev
If the RAM were flaking out, why would it just fail on one package and the same package every time? I would think it would fail more frequently and randomly. I'm not saying that can't be it, just not the behavior I would expect in that situation. I'll try swapping out the RAM tomorrow just to test it out. Thanks for the input... Anyone else have any thoughts? At 09:34 PM 2/24/2001 -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Jason N. Price wrote: > as there are a lot of dependencies on it. Without it installed, I can't > install a lot of other things. I have tried getting it from the cd as well > as via HTTP, but the error is the same either way. The error is: Sounds like you might have flaky RAM or kernel or something. It means that the file is corrupt. If the file is not actually corrupt, the it got corrupt as it was read in, flaky RAM. Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mouse works under gpm, but X screws it up
dear all, i have an microsoft intellimouse 1.1a. it has 3 buttons, plus a wheel. it works great under gpm. device=/dev/psaux type=imps2 append="-R imps2" <-- this line was me fooling around the problem is, when i start X, the mouse is definitely not happy. random mouse clicks happen when i simply just move the mouse. it's awful. when i go back to console, it appears that gpm is also screwed up. however, if i kill gpm before starting X, it works just fine under X. Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol""imps/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" EndSection when i try to change gpm to use /dev/gpmdata, the mouse stops working under gpm. i've been at this for awhile. can some kind soul tell me how to get the mouse working under both console and X? it's a bummer having to kill gpm everytime i want to start X up. thanks! pete -- "...and here is fortress ovum being stormed by [EMAIL PROTECTED] millions of tiny warriors..."www.dirac.org/p -- Robert "Schweitzer" Picardo pgp1y4e2fJyD9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Framebuffer server uses lots of CPU?
I have X installed on a PII-233 but have had to use the XF86_FBDev xserver because the others won't work with the video card. I noticed the machine was a bit sluggish, but I figured that was the processor. Recently I was running top and noticed that the XF86_FBDev was taking up about 42% of the CPU. Is this normal? Is there a reason the framebuffer server takes so much CPU power to run? Rob -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2001-02 | Aka Khyron the Backstabber | LI NN N U U X X O ICQ# 2325055| LI N NN U U X | LLL I N N UUU X X O | Those who can, do.
Re: mouse works under gpm, but X screws it up
To quote Peter Jay Salzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# append="-R imps2" <-- this line was me fooling around
Get rid of that, and instead add a this line:
repeat_type=raw
#Option "Protocol""imps/2"
I don't know if it's case-sensitive, but IMPS/2 works for me... It might
make a difference.
#Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Yeah, make it use /dev/gpmdata - gpm and X are fighiting over the mouse.
# when i try to change gpm to use /dev/gpmdata, the mouse stops working
under
# gpm. i've been at this for awhile. can some kind soul tell me how
to get
# the mouse working under both console and X? it's a bummer having to
kill
# gpm everytime i want to start X up.
Maybe I don't quite understand what you're saying, but here's how things
work, ideally:
'gpm' uses the appropriate protocol, ie: "imps2".
'gpm' repeats absolutely everything("raw" repeat_type) to /dev/gpmdata
X reads /dev/gpmdata, instead of the real mouse device.
Everything is happy. :)
David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Framebuffer server uses lots of CPU?
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 01:42:42AM -0600, Rob Rati wrote: > I have X installed on a PII-233 but have had to use the XF86_FBDev > xserver because the others won't work with the video card. I noticed > the machine was a bit sluggish, but I figured that was the processor. > Recently I was running top and noticed that the XF86_FBDev was taking up > about 42% of the CPU. Is this normal? Is there a reason the > framebuffer server takes so much CPU power to run? Yes, it isn't accellerated like many other servers. It will make a difference to run it at a lower bit depth and a lower resolution. -- Eric G. Miller
make-kpkg
Hello, I'd love to RTFM on this - but I can't find the FM (the man page doesn't enlighten me on this issue). Is there a way to use make-kpkg to simply build a stand-alone module (in this case, openafs from the openafs-modules-source package) without invoking a full kernel build? The first thing that happened when I tried using it was that "make config" was invoked. (This is my first contact with make-kpkg.) Thanks! -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0x5584BD98 or 'Peter Schuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' Key retrival: Send an E-Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://scode.infidyne.com
help with voodoo 3
dear all, i'm having the hardest time getting my voodoo 3 to work correctly. i'm running woody with X 4.0. i can run gears, and resize the window without a noticeable change in framerate, so SOMETHING has to be going right. however, whenever i try to play quake3 or unreal tournament, i get a frame rate which looks like 2 frames per second. it's awful. one thing that i notice. when i look at the output of startx, i notice the following lines: (WW) TDFX(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0x4200,0x200) (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 7.93 MB (II) TDFX(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) ... (II) TDFX(0): direct rendering disabled direct rendering -- that's DRI, right? it gives no indication why DRI is disabled. any ideas? this is a list of relevent packages installed on my system. in glide-v5 3.10-3 (no description available) ii libglide3 2000.11.02.06 Graphics library for 3Dfx Voodoo based cards ii mesademos 3.2-3 Example programs for Mesa. ii xlibmesa-dev 4.0.2-1XFree86 version of Mesa 3D graphics library ii xlibmesa3 4.0.2-1XFree86 version of Mesa 3D graphics library ii xlibosmesa-dev 4.0.2-1XFree86 version of Mesa off-screen rendering ii xlibosmesa34.0.2-1XFree86 version of Mesa off-screen rendering the 3dfx.o module is loaded too: navalle:~# lsmod Module Size Used by 3dfx4928 0 (unused) when i can get money together, i plan on buying a radeon. until then, i'm stuck with this voodoo3, but i'd really like to play some games. can some kind soul give me advice on how to get this video card working? much thanks!!! pete pgpJS709Wb33b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Problem with --revision and make-kpkg
I can't make the --revision flag work with make-kpkg: First I issue: make-kpkg --revision Custom.1 kernel_image make-kpkg --revision Custom.1 modules_image (to make the pcmcia modules) When I next issue: dpkg -i ../kernel-image-2.2.18pre21_Custom.1_i386.deb I get the error below: pcmcia-modules-2.2.18pre21 conflicts with kernel-image-2.2.18pre21 (>> 1) If leave out the --revision flag things work fine. Any ideas what's happening? Thanks for any pointers. Lars. %%% Lars Jensen, Truckee Meadows Community College, Reno NV 89512-3999. Tel: 775.673.7113 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems mounting a NFS share
Hi all I have problems mounting a NFS share. I would like to copy my whole system to another PC so i entred in my source PC's export file / (ro,no_root_squash) # IS THIS CORRECT? i want that EVERY file then is copied like it was on the old system (cp -a) I have done the above configuration and tried to mount the share on the source PC itself to check if it work. I typed mount 192.168.1.1:/ /mnt It worked fine. So i tried the same command on my new machine (wich has i micro SUSE working and has IP: 192.168.1.5, I am root on both systems) but then i bekame the messg "RPC: Timed out" That sounds like my computer dousn't respond on the request but i can ping both systems from every other system in the network Any Ideas? cheers, Raffaele -- Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Check out the most powerfull Linux desktop at www.kde.org !! Check out the best Linux distribution at www.debian.org (www.linux.org)
Re: X problems after upgrade
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Nathan wrote: ->I recently upgraded to 4.0.2 from 3.3.6 using dselect so all dependencies ->should be OK and now X won't start at all. I ran xf86config and created the ->new XF86Config-4 file in /etc/X11 and every time I try to run X, it gives me ->this error msg: -> ->X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting. ->giving up. ->xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server ->xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. -> -> ->Anybody know what's wrong? -> I got the same error on 3.3.6 when I installed xfce from unstable. The problem was the symb link of /etc/X11/X -> /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_Mach64 was removed. I replaced the symb link and all was/is OK. Maybe the same sort of thing is needed for the 4.0.2 version. Hope this helps... -- Christopher W. Aiken Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com www.cwaiken.com Debian GNU/Linux 2.2_r2
Re: D-Link DFE-530TX Probs W. 2.4.2
On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 08:16:25PM -0800, David Frey wrote: > I just compiled a 2.4.2 kernel. The compile went fine. Ran lilo, > rebooted...everything looking good. > > The big problem is that my NIC (a D-Link DFE-530TX) doesn't work. I would > like to elaborate on "doesn't work", but I'm afraid I can't. > > I did cat /proc/pci and the NIC was listed there. I noticed that it was > sharing IRQ 10 with my USB controller, but I was told by someone in #debian > on IRC that it wouldn't be an issue because I have USB disabled in my kernel. > > The driver that I have compiled into my kernel is via-rhine. I am sure this > is the right driver. This NIC has been used under win 95, 98 redhat 6.1 and > debian. I have tried a couple times to get this NIC to work with kernels I > have built, but it never does. Yes, it is the right driver, but for me it didn't work either. Fetch the latest driver for your card from the homepage of the vendor (http://www.dlink.com | I think). Compile it yourself (as a module) as it is explained in the readme. That should do it as it did for me. > > Another thing that might be important is that this is a revision A board. > I've heard that rev B boards had some issues. This driver should work with both revisions, A and B. Willi > > Thanks, > David Frey > > _ > Wake up screaming. . . http://www.detonate.net/ > > -- L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^ . Waehrend in Redmond noch gebootet wird, ICQ# 49564996 wird in Villa Pinguin schon gearbeitet. AIM wdyck
Re: make-kpkg
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 03:58:25AM -0500, Peter Schuller wrote: > Hello, > > I'd love to RTFM on this - but I can't find the FM (the man page doesn't > enlighten me on this issue). > > Is there a way to use make-kpkg to simply build a stand-alone module (in > this case, openafs from the openafs-modules-source package) without invoking > a full kernel build? The first thing that happened when I tried using it was > that "make config" was invoked. > > (This is my first contact with make-kpkg.) the docs are in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/ yours martin -- 30DC 1D28 1D79 32F5 5E67 3ABB 28EE B35A 3E8D CCC0
Re: ethernet card installation
"Chad C. Walstrom" wrote: > > Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: > > /etc/modules should not be edited by hand. > > Don't listen to Viktor about /etc/modules. It is meant to be edited > by hand or by modconf(1). Personally, I don't see why I should have > to enter an ncurses/dialog utility when I can open up vi(1) and edit > the file by hand. Much quicker than having to wait for a colorful > GUI. > > I think he ment, "/etc/modutils.conf should not be edited by hand". > In which case, he would be correct. And the following statement is > why: > > > Johnny: After editing /etc/modutils/aliases, make sure to run > > `update-modules`, otherwise your change goes unnoticed. > > update-modules does not touch /etc/modules, so don't worry about > editing it. Ahem, looks like Chad is right and I was wrong about /etc/modules. I'll better check before I post the next time. Cheers, Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/ Geek Code (3.1): GCS/SS d-@ s+: a20 C++@ UL++$ P+ L+++ E--- W++ N++ o? K? !W O? M? V? PS++@ PE+(-) Y+ P?(+++) t+ 5+ X- R? !tv b+ DI+ D- G e>+++ h-- r- !y+
Re: Problem with --revision and make-kpkg
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 01:26:08AM -0800, Lars Jensen wrote: > I can't make the --revision flag work with make-kpkg: > > First I issue: > make-kpkg --revision Custom.1 kernel_image > make-kpkg --revision Custom.1 modules_image (to make the pcmcia modules) Try --revision=Custom.1 ^ You might want to loose the capitol "C" and go with lower case. I don't know for sure but that is the way it is done in - /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image hth, kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke
courier-imap package broken?
Not *quite* sure if this is a buglet or not...figured I'd run it by you guys first before I file a big report on it. Tracking unstable/woody (mostly unstable ;) ) I get the following when attempting to install courier-imap: --- # apt-get install courier-imap Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: courier-imap: Depends: libssl095a but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages --- A little poking involving libssl produces this: --- # apt-get -s install libssl Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package libssl has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list However the following packages replace it: libssl096 libssl09 # apt-get install libssl096 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, libssl096 is already the newest version. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded. # dpkg -s libssl096 Package: libssl096 Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: non-us/main Installed-Size: 1012 Maintainer: Christoph Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: openssl Version: 0.9.6-1 Replaces: libssl, libssl09 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.2) Conflicts: ssleay (<< 0.9.2b), libssl Description: SSL shared libraries This package contains Eric Young's ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) implementation of SSL and supporting libraries. . It's the base for SSLtelnet, SSLftp and Apache-SSL. # apt-get install libssl09 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, libssl09 is already the newest version. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded. # dpkg -s libssl09 Package: libssl09 Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: non-us/main Installed-Size: 865 Maintainer: Christoph Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: openssl Version: 0.9.4-5 Replaces: libssl Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.2) Conflicts: ssleay (<< 0.9.2b), libssl Description: SSL shared libraries This package contains Eric Young's ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) implementation of SSL and supporting libraries. . It's the base for SSLtelnet, SSLftp and Apache-SSL. --- Any ideas? -b3
Re: X problems after upgrade
Nathan wrote: > I recently upgraded to 4.0.2 from 3.3.6 using dselect so all dependencies > should be OK and now X won't start at all. I ran xf86config and created the > new XF86Config-4 file in /etc/X11 and every time I try to run X, it gives me > this error msg: > > X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting. > giving up. > xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. Try > ln -s /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 /etc/X11/X -- LINUX~~nobody owns it~~everybody can use it~~anybody can improve it ~~~
[OT] What is he talking about ? - debian and kernel headers
I just read an article at - http://linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2001-02/lw-02-penguin_4.html about apt-get. The article was all right for the most part but at the end of the article is a link - Discuss this article in the LinuxWorld.com forums Within the forum is a posting entitled - Debian not a good choice!!! Here is a - The fundamental problem with Debian is the way they ship their kernel headers. The /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm never point to the running kernel's source headers but to the headers Debian compiled the entire system with. For example if you are running Debian (potato) your /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm contain the files for Linux 2.2.16 and let's say you are running Linux 2.4.2 on this, if you try and compile any thing kernel dependant, you're going to get a bunch of undefines - try compiling any device driver on Debian!. Please say NO to Debian. Could someone knowledgable about such things explain this to me? Makes me curious. Maybe I should be compiling my kernels without kpkg? Thanks, kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke
Samba slowdown on win98
Some of the computers in the office are running win98. when I acessing a debian/samba share it takes for ever to shwo the share then looks up after triing to access the share. ( Onnly happens with the win98 units. ) I looked at the samba FAQ they said they fixed the problem after ver 1.somthin. I just compiled 2.0.7 and i still have the same problem ? anyone know why ?? Thanks...
Re: *.gz (thanks)
Hi! I would like to thanks to many people who taugh me how to read *.gz files using zless (and bless for bzip2). Following other suggestions I tried mc too, cool!. Thanks again! Marcelo
libapt-pkg2.7
Hello, I was wondering if anyone might know when libapt-pkg2.7 might come out? I am using 'unstable', and really miss the 'console-apt'(a.k.a. capt). Thanks, Jimmy Richards
Re: wine and woody
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 02:40:15 +, debian-user@lists.debian.org said: > > On 25 Feb 2001 02:30:43 UTC, Pollywog said: > > > > > Try installing xlibosmesa3 > > That might help; it worked for me. > > xlibosmesa3 from "unstable" Now the problem seems to be that when I try to install Windows apps, they look for Windows files that WINE does not yet have, and point to where they can be obtained at Microsoft's website. At least the xlibosmesa errors are no longer a problem. I don't want to install Windows on my machine, so I will have to wait for future updates of WINE. -- Andrew
Re: Need /dev/usb
You'll need to create the directory /dev/usb manually, then us mknod to create the device file. The command would be something like: mknod /dev/usb/ c You'll need to know the device name (obviously), and the appropriate major and minor numbers. Most likely you can find this information under the Documentation directory in your kernel's source tree. Set the permissions to whatever /dev/lp0 has. On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 09:08:06AM -0500, Tom George wrote: > I am running potato 2.2.12 but I have compiled a 2.4.1 kernel as I > would like to use my printer (Epson Stylus Color 860) on a usb port. > I configured the 2.4.1 kernel for a usb printer but there is no > /dev/usb and MAKEDEV wont make one. How can I add the usb driver > without unnecessarily compromising my stable 2.2.12 system? > > (For the record, I am stuck with a windows-only scanner on the > parallel port. There is an old X-switch in my junk pile so I could > put both the printer and the scanner on the parallel port if there is > no easy usb solution.) pgpUXmvd7u3Kw.pgp Description: PGP signature
help: libc6 install (was: Re: task-c-dev install)
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 06:30:25PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > Marcelo Chiapparini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: > > task-c-dev: Depends: libc-dev > > E: Sorry, broken packages > > > > > >What is libc-dev? It is not listed in the > >http://packages.debian.org/stable/devel/task-c-dev.html page as a > >package related to task-c-dev. > > > >How can I fix this? > > libc6-dev provides libc-dev; try installing that. > > HTH, > > -- > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Colin (and everyone who wants to help!), I tried to install libc6, and I was unable to install it below follows the output: micron:/home/chiappa# apt-get install -f libc6-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.3-15) but 2.2-4 is to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages I was curious about the numbers associated to libc6, 2.1.3-15 (which is in the stable branch) vs 2.2.-4 which is in the testing branch. Now I remember that some time ago, when I was trying to install balsa, I installed the version of balsa which was in woody (unstable at that time), and the libc6 libs where updated in the process. Now I don't have balsa anymore, I remove it, but I think that something was messed up whith libc6, perhaps some information regarding woody? I am running potato 2.2.r2, and I want to keep stick with it. How can I fix it? In sources.list I am pointing to stable, so it seems that apt-get install want to install libc6 2.2.3-15 when libc6 2.2-4 is installed in my system, is this correct? How can I go back to the version of libc6 which is in stable? I tried to remove libc6 in order to install it again from stable, but a huge amount of packages will be removed in the process and I am afraid to mess up even more my system... After looking for libc6 in my system with dselect I found that I have installed libc6 2.2-4 indeed... I need to go back to 2.1.3, the version in stable... Thanks in advance for the help! Marcelo
help- errno's 111 and 3
just installed potato, 256ram, pent III, ati xpert2000pro 32 mb card, nokia 447za+ monitor, My nic card works and all things considered install went smooth untill, xf86config and XF86Setup, startx renders " X: exec of /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_svga failed, no such file or directory" so where did it go and how can I get it back? also renders "X11TransSocketUNIXConnect could not connect errno 111 " and "xinit errno 111 unable to connect to x server" and " xinit no such process errno 3 server error" I ran xfconfig then XF86Setup then startx,so now i'm lost, thanx in advance for any help, guidance or just direction to look and learn
disque dur non reconnu
Mots Clefs: Seagate, Barracuda, Yellow Dog, PowerMac G3 Resume: Disque dur sans probleme sous Mac OS mais non reconnu par BootX ou par l'installateur de Yellow Dog. Materiel: PowerMacG3, disque dur en question: modele Barracuda ST320430A, 20 Go, UDMA 66-7200t, seul sur Bus ATA interne 1.0 (cavalier en position maitre). But: sur ce disque dur il y a deja des partitions Apple (avec un syteme Mac OS 9) et deux partitions linux libre (Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap: 256 Mo, Apple_UNIX_SVR2 root: 8.6 Go) dans lesquelles je veux installer linux. Probleme: par BootX (plusieurs versions dont 1.1.3), j'ai lance l'installateur de Yellow Dog linux (Champion Server 1.2) qui ne reconnait pas le disque dur. Essais: J'ai permute le CD-ROM (maitre, sur Bus interne 0.0) avec le disque dur; resultat: le CD-ROM est toujours reconnu (il change evidemment de titre de /hda a /hdc) mais le disque dur ne l'est toujours pas. Que faire ? Merci d'avance.
disque dur non reconnu
Subject: disque dur non reconnu Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:03:31 +0100 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:10:37 +0100 From: Yvan GERARD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Mots Clefs: Seagate, Barracuda, Yellow Dog, PowerMac G3 Resume: Disque dur sans probleme sous Mac OS mais non reconnu par BootX ou par l'installateur de Yellow Dog. Materiel: PowerMacG3, disque dur en question: modele Barracuda ST320430A, 20 Go, UDMA 66-7200t, seul sur Bus ATA interne 1.0 (cavalier en position maitre). But: sur ce disque dur il y a deja des partitions Apple (avec un syteme Mac OS 9) et deux partitions linux libre (Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap: 256 Mo, Apple_UNIX_SVR2 root: 8.6 Go) dans lesquelles je veux installer linux. Probleme: par BootX (plusieurs versions dont 1.1.3), j'ai lance l'installateur de Yellow Dog linux (Champion Server 1.2) qui ne reconnait pas le disque dur. Essais: J'ai permute le CD-ROM (maitre, sur Bus interne 0.0) avec le disque dur; resultat: le CD-ROM est toujours reconnu (il change evidemment de titre de /hda a /hdc) mais le disque dur ne l'est toujours pas. Que faire ? Merci d'avance.
pseudo-OT: curious -- why GPM????
Hi all! In the few months that I have been reading the debian user list, I have seen many many posts about the conflicts GPM seems to have with X. I have never used GPM, but I thought it was only something to be used in a text-only environment. Is there really any significant advantage to using it under X? I've read about users banging their heads against a wall trying to get it to work, and I was curious it it is really worth it and if maybe I should be using it. What does it do? (I don't have any man or info pages installed) xucaen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: disque dur non reconnu
Je ne sais pas ?!? ;-) did I miss something? Willi On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 06:15:56PM +0100, Yvan GERARD wrote: > Subject: > disque dur non reconnu > Resent-Date: > Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:03:31 +0100 > Resent-From: > debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: > Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:10:37 +0100 > From: > Yvan GERARD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > > > Mots Clefs: Seagate, Barracuda, Yellow Dog, PowerMac G3 > > Resume: Disque dur sans probleme sous Mac OS mais non reconnu par BootX > ou par l'installateur de Yellow Dog. > > Materiel: > PowerMacG3, > disque dur en question: modele Barracuda ST320430A, 20 Go, UDMA > 66-7200t, seul sur Bus > ATA interne 1.0 (cavalier en position maitre). > > But: > sur ce disque dur il y a deja > des partitions Apple (avec un syteme Mac OS 9) > et deux partitions linux libre (Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap: 256 Mo, > Apple_UNIX_SVR2 root: 8.6 Go) dans lesquelles je veux installer > linux. > > Probleme: par BootX (plusieurs versions dont 1.1.3), j'ai lance > l'installateur de Yellow Dog linux (Champion Server 1.2) qui ne > reconnait pas le disque dur. > > Essais: > J'ai permute le CD-ROM (maitre, sur Bus interne 0.0) avec le disque dur; > > resultat: le CD-ROM est toujours reconnu (il change evidemment de titre > de /hda a /hdc) mais le disque dur ne l'est toujours pas. > > Que faire ? Merci d'avance. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^ . Waehrend in Redmond noch gebootet wird, ICQ# 49564996 wird in Villa Pinguin schon gearbeitet. AIM wdyck
Re: Read-only Servers We Can Snoop Around on for Tips?
On 23 Feb 2001, MaD dUCK wrote: > i find myself > usually using configurations that are very specific to my sites. You're right, I think. There are so many possible permutations (just thing, for example, about the different ways to connect to the 'net - modem ppp, isdn, cable, *DSL (did I miss any) - and the different ways they may be configured/used. Its a nice idea, but it just seems a little impractical to me. > that's why there are HOWTOs, man, Yeah, man, read the HOWTOs %-) -- Gary Debian 2.1r4 (kernel v2.0.39); XFree86 3.3.6 Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. (Einstein)
fvwm pager display
Greetings- This is perhaps a silly question, but here goes. I use fvwm(2) under potato, and many of the windows I have open at any time are ssh sessions to somewhere else. I typically open these with entries in my fvwm menu that run something like this: + "statapps" Exec rxvt -name 'StatApps' -title 'StatApps' -e ssh statapps.unc.edu This all works just fine, except that in the fvwm pager the window is simply labeled "ssh", which makes it impossible to differentiate from the other ssh sessions. Is there any way to change this? Thanks. -- Andrew J Perrin - Ph.D. Candidate, UC Berkeley, Dept. of Sociology Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA - http://demog.berkeley.edu/~aperrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dependency problem with dpk
Hey I don't know how to fix this: I installed the new libc6 version (2.2.1-1) on my potato box. So far everything went fine, but when I tried to add other packages using dpkg I get this: Reading Packae Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree ... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (=2.1.3-10) but 2.2.1-1 is installed locales: Depends: libc6 (=2.1.3-10) but 2.2.1-1 is installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f But when I use 'apt-get -f install' I get this: #apt-get -f install Reading Package List Done Building Dependency Tree ... Done Correcting dependencies ... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: atlas2-dev blas-dev blt-dev g++ lam2-dev libc6-dev libgc5-dev libgimp1.1.17-dev libgtk1.2-dbg lingtk1.2-dev libncurses5-dev libstdc++2.10-dev locales task-parallel-computing-dev task-tcltk-dev task-x-window-system tcl8.2-dev tk8.2-dev tktable-dev xlib6g-dev 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 20 to remove and 0 not upgraded. yada... yada... yada... Abort. I also downloaded the libc6-dev package which it says it depends on but when I install this it, it again depends on g++, etc... Would it be possible to add the testing directories to my sources.list and get all the packages with apt-get from the Debian server? Would 'apt-get upgrade' work then? I don't want to upgrade to testing completely (!!) but I want the blic6 package work ! What can I do? When I downgraded to the 'old' version of libc6 (2.1.3-10) dpkg broke and I couldn't do anything b/c no libc6 package was correctly installed and I don't want to mess up b/c I'm not so comfortable with dpkg and apt-get! That's why I'm still using potato :) TIA !!! Philipp
finding out email address
I remember some posted a while ago some command to request all email address (with partial match), but I can't find it in my archives. Say, for example, I need to determine x's exact email, and I only know that the pattern is [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do I type? Thanks, AR
Re: fvwm pager display
Andrew Perrin wrote: > Greetings- > > This is perhaps a silly question, but here goes. I use fvwm(2) under > potato, and many of the windows I have open at any time are ssh sessions > to somewhere else. I typically open these with entries in my fvwm menu > that run something like this: > > + "statapps" Exec rxvt -name 'StatApps' -title 'StatApps' -e ssh > statapps.unc.edu > > This all works just fine, except that in the fvwm pager the window is > simply labeled "ssh", which makes it impossible to differentiate from the > other ssh sessions. Is there any way to change this? Try >http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO-5.html -- LINUX~~nobody owns it~~everybody can use it~~anybody can improve it ~~~
SOCKS_NS proxy error
Hi. I'm having trouble configuring Netscape 4.7 to see my SOCKS server. I have set the SOCKS_NS variable to 192.168.1.1 and likewise in preferences. However, Netscape still can't see it. I'm guessing that as a user I don't have permission by default to access port 1080, that I need to turn that on somewhere. Any ideas? Thanks! Robin
LILO and big HD's
Hi I have win and lin insalled on my computer unfortunally windows must be on the first partition wich is 20 GB's big. the next 20 GB's are for debian. Is there any chance to get LILO working under this circumstances (perhaps a new version or something like that)? cheers, Raffaele -- Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Check out the most powerfull Linux desktop at www.kde.org !! Check out the best Linux distribution at www.debian.org (www.linux.org)
A modules question
I'm tryng to build a machien this weekend to see if I can use testing. I need largefile support, and that appaears to be the best way to get, but I also need a machine thats reliable enough for production work. In any case, I installed "stable" on this machine and all went well. It has an Intel Etherxpress Pro 100 NIC in it, which requires the eepro module to be loaded. I do this during install, and it is installed "permanently" such that when I reboot the machine it's reloaded. However after changing apt sources to point at "testing", and upgradeing this module was not laoded. So I reinstalled "stable" and I'm looking around to see how this is doen, so that I reproduce the setup afer upgradeing again. But I can't find any trace of how it's done! I don't see it in /etc/modules.conf, which in turn points me to the /etc/modules.conf directory. But a grep -I eep in that directory reveals no trace of this module. How does this work? And how can I _keep_ it workign after upgradeing? Thanks. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154 Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 2000 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
Re: LILO and big HD's
To quote Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # Hi # # I have win and lin insalled on my computer # unfortunally windows must be on the first partition wich is 20 GB's big. the # next 20 GB's are for debian. Is there any chance to get LILO working under # this circumstances (perhaps a new version or something like that)? Yup, the more recent version of Debian have large IDE disk support. You need to add the line: lba32 to the top of your lilo.conf to enable the code for it. Woody(testing) and Sid(unstable)'s LILO packages are fairly recent, but Potato(stable)'s are pretty old. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
First of all
Hi you all, I'm a quite new user of Debian linux and I need very much help here... but first of all: I'm using netscape 4.73 and I tryied to configure de newsgroup reader to contact and subscribe to . But Netscape can't contact the server although the server is online. Does someone read these news from netscape using the news reader? Or, does someone knows how to do it? Thanks
Netscape setup
How exactly do I get netscape working? I did an apt-get of netscape, but don't really know what to do after that. I tried running netscape from an xterm, but it complained that the Display was incorrect. I tried exporting the Display variable, but that didn't seem to do it. The Netscape menu choice doesn't do anything at all. What am I missing?
Re: LILO and big HD's
don't have this problem, just for my own knowledge... doesn't this require a quasi-new bios? since lilo can only bootstrap using whatever services the bios allows. pete On Sun 25 Feb 01, 1:02 PM, David B . Harris said: > To quote Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > # Hi > # > # I have win and lin insalled on my computer > # unfortunally windows must be on the first partition wich is 20 GB's > big. the > # next 20 GB's are for debian. Is there any chance to get LILO working > under > # this circumstances (perhaps a new version or something like that)? > > Yup, the more recent version of Debian have large IDE disk support. You > need to add the line: > > lba32 > > to the top of your lilo.conf to enable the code for it. Woody(testing) > and Sid(unstable)'s LILO packages are fairly recent, but > Potato(stable)'s are pretty old. pgpLEk87qFPxl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fvwm pager display
Thanks, but that doesn't address what I'm after. I can set the title bar fine; it's the mnemonic in the fvwm pager that doesn't get it. -- Andrew J Perrin - Ph.D. Candidate, UC Berkeley, Dept. of Sociology Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA - http://demog.berkeley.edu/~aperrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, mike polniak wrote: > Andrew Perrin wrote: > > Greetings- > > > > This is perhaps a silly question, but here goes. I use fvwm(2) under > > potato, and many of the windows I have open at any time are ssh sessions > > to somewhere else. I typically open these with entries in my fvwm menu > > that run something like this: > > > > + "statapps" Exec rxvt -name 'StatApps' -title 'StatApps' -e ssh > > statapps.unc.edu > > > > This all works just fine, except that in the fvwm pager the window is > > simply labeled "ssh", which makes it impossible to differentiate from the > > other ssh sessions. Is there any way to change this? > > Try >http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO-5.html > -- > LINUX~~nobody owns it~~everybody can use it~~anybody can improve it > ~~~ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [OT] What is he talking about ? - debian and kernel headers
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 09:38:50AM -0600, ktb wrote: > Here is a - > The fundamental problem with Debian is the way they ship their kernel > headers. The /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm never point > to the running kernel's source headers but to the headers > Debian compiled the entire system with. See /usr/share/doc/libc6/README.Debian.gz It provides a full explanation. > Could someone knowledgable about such things explain this to me? > Makes me curious. Maybe I should be compiling my kernels without > kpkg? It has nothing to do with make-kpkg. It's a glibc thing. If you *really* want to take care of the problem then the solution is to rebuild glibc with every kernel you install. That's generally not necessary, though, since very few people will ever run in to a problem. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgpI8gji7azip.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LILO and big HD's
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 17:22, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: > I have win and lin insalled on my computer > unfortunally windows must be on the first partition wich is 20 GB's big. the > next 20 GB's are for debian. Is there any chance to get LILO working under > this circumstances (perhaps a new version or something like that)? The version of lilo in potato ii lilo 21.4.3-2 LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can loa Reaches everywhere on my 30G disk partitioned like so: Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdc1 1 14899 7509064+ 83 Linux /dev/hdc2 14900 29799 7509600 a6 OpenBSD /dev/hdc3 29800 44699 7509600 83 Linux /dev/hdc4 44700 59598 7509096 83 Linux That is, all 4 partitions are bootable via lilo. Luck, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: [OT] What is he talking about ? - debian and kernel headers
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I just read an article at - >http://linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2001-02/lw-02-penguin_4.html >about apt-get. The article was all right for the most part but at the end >of the article is a link - >Discuss this article in the LinuxWorld.com forums > >Within the forum is a posting entitled - >Debian not a good choice!!! Linus Torvalds himself has said that "the Debian way" of shipping kernel headers is the only correct way. Several times, in fact. But for some reason a lot of people seem to ignore him on this topic. You have to compile user-land programs that use the systems C library against the same header files the C library was compiled against, otherwise you can get serious versioning problems. So pointing /usr/include/linux to just any kernels includes is something you shouldn't ever do. It has to point to the includes that were used to compile the C library. That's why Debian ships a copy of those files with libc6-dev. >For example if you are running Debian (potato) your /usr/include/linux >and /usr/include/asm contain the files for Linux 2.2.16 and let's say you >are running Linux 2.4.2 on this, if you try and compile any thing >kernel dependant, you're going to get a bunch of undefines - >try compiling any device driver on Debian!. Nonsense, just use -I/usr/src/linux/include and you're set. You'll have to do that anyway if for example you want to include say - it doesn't exist under /usr/include/net and never will because even on systems that link /usr/include/linux -> /usr/src/linux/include/linux the systems /usr/include/net is something completely different from the kernels /usr/src/linux/include/net. It's a shame that so many people are misinformed and spread that misinformation like gospel. Mike. -- I live the way I type; fast, with a lot of mistakes.
Re: cannot apt-get libc6-dev
Well, I swapped out the RAM for some other RAM that I know is good. Ended up with the same problem, but different packages. Now, it's some gmc and gnome packages. This is driving me nuts. One of the reasons I went with Debian was for it's package system, and it's failing me... :( Any other ideas? At 12:59 AM 2/25/2001 -0600, Jason N. Price wrote: If the RAM were flaking out, why would it just fail on one package and the same package every time? I would think it would fail more frequently and randomly. I'm not saying that can't be it, just not the behavior I would expect in that situation. I'll try swapping out the RAM tomorrow just to test it out. Thanks for the input... Anyone else have any thoughts? At 09:34 PM 2/24/2001 -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Jason N. Price wrote: > as there are a lot of dependencies on it. Without it installed, I can't > install a lot of other things. I have tried getting it from the cd as well > as via HTTP, but the error is the same either way. The error is: Sounds like you might have flaky RAM or kernel or something. It means that the file is corrupt. If the file is not actually corrupt, the it got corrupt as it was read in, flaky RAM. Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
help,please...
Trying to install Debian over network,what is the correct url for testing? I have went to the website and verified the following url : http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/ This does not work,not does changing the url from current to testing.Can someone please help me here?
Puhh, another prob with copying...
Hi all Perhapps you saw that i have flooded the list with my quests. I got it to get the network work and have nfs working... Then i copied all with the "cp -a" command. No i have the prob that i can't login to my new machiene because threr are still files wich it hasn't copyied eg. the shadow file. What must i do that it copy ALL THE DATA to my new PC? i want to copy them over the net not putting my old HD in the new computer. cheers, Raffaele -- Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Check out the most powerfull Linux desktop at www.kde.org !! Check out the best Linux distribution at www.debian.org (www.linux.org)
Fw: Netscape setup
- Original Message - From: "hammack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jason N. Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Netscape setup > Jason, I'll be watching this because I am at about the same situation. > Knowing that, take what I say cautiously. I got my Netscape 6 from a CD > that came with the latest issue of Maximum Linux. My 1st attempt at > installation belched with an note that it couldn't find > "libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2. I went into my Debian distro CD and found a lib > package close to the above. This time I got a Netscape screen. My distro > says to go to the dir where Netscape is installed and run > "./netscape-installer". Now I get a Netscape window with the appropiate > buttions. I now have to do some other install things, like setting color > etc. I am getting a lot of "Alerts" that it cannot find "http:// ?". > These are URL's to the Netscape site. I am now trying to get the pppconfig > installed. My distro also said it required "glibc 2.1 or above and > libjpeg.so.62" or above. Hope I helped and not confused. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason N. Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 10:19 AM > Subject: Netscape setup > > > > How exactly do I get netscape working? I did an apt-get of netscape, but > > don't really know what to do after that. I tried running netscape from an > > xterm, but it complained that the Display was incorrect. I tried > exporting > > the Display variable, but that didn't seem to do it. The Netscape menu > > choice doesn't do anything at all. What am I missing? > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: LILO and big HD's
To quote Peter Jay Salzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # don't have this problem, just for my own knowledge... # # doesn't this require a quasi-new bios? since lilo can only bootstrap using # whatever services the bios allows. True enough, it does require a BIOS with EDD support. The LILO sources have a bit on it, I think. Also, I think almost any Pentium-compatible BIOS has it, so you're looking at five year old computers :) If you've got a five year old computer, the $200 spent on a hard drive with which LILO would need EDD support could be better spent elsewhere :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
How do I get larg file support?
Let;s just cut to the chase on this. I need to be able to create, and work with larg files (> 2G) under Debian Linux. Secondly I need the moststable system for doing this, as it will be a production machine. I have no particular bias as to what filesystem type I use for this. How do I go about seting up a machine to do this? I have already set up a test machine to test this on. I installed stable, and upgraded to testing. It's a pretty minimal install so far. What is the best path to achieve this? -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154 Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 2000 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
Re: LILO and big HD's
To quote Pann McCuaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 17:22, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: # # > I have win and lin insalled on my computer # > unfortunally windows must be on the first partition wich is 20 GB's big. the # > next 20 GB's are for debian. Is there any chance to get LILO working under # > this circumstances (perhaps a new version or something like that)? # # Reaches everywhere on my 30G disk partitioned like so: # # That is, all 4 partitions are bootable via lilo. Hmm... Try putting a kernel on the last partition, and then get LILO to boot from it. If it works, would you mind sharing your lilo.conf? David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: LILO and big HD's
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > don't have this problem, just for my own knowledge... > > doesn't this require a quasi-new bios? since lilo can only bootstrap using > whatever services the bios allows. According to /usr/share/doc/lilo, support for booting from cylinders > 1024 started with version 21.3-1(March 2000). And per lba32: This version was created to allow booting on disks larger than 8.4Gb using the Enhanced BIOS call (int 0x13, AH=0x42) and the packet-call interface. These calls are supported on post-1998 systems, and through software BIOS extensions such as EZ-DRIVE(tm). -- LINUX~~nobody owns it~~everybody can use it~~anybody can improve it ~~~
Re: help,please...
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 02:00:28PM -0500, Dale Kosan wrote: > Trying to install Debian over network,what is the correct url for testing? I > have went to the website and verified the following url : > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/ > > This does not work,not does changing the url from current to testing.Can > someone please help me here? > I think it's something like http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists testing main contrib Greetings, Olivier.
Re: [OT] What is he talking about ? - debian and kernel headers
ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could someone knowledgable about such things explain this to me? > Makes me curious. Maybe I should be compiling my kernels without > kpkg? Debian was the first to get this right, and a lot of people outside of Debian complained about it, but now even Linus agrees with us. Read /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.headers for a detailed explanation. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 PGP Key ID: A8E40EB9
Looking for Potato drivers for 3Com - 3CCEFE574BT
Does anyone know where / if these might be found. Thank you
Re: How do I get larg file support?
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 02:08:38PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
> Let;s just cut to the chase on this.
>
> I need to be able to create, and work with larg files (> 2G) under
> Debian Linux. Secondly I need the moststable system for doing this,
> as it will be a production machine.
You need many things from 'unstable' (though perhaps most of them are
now in 'testing', I haven't looked).
The biggies:
a 2.4.x kernel
glibc2.1
lots of little things like the current fileutils, etc
Remember 'unstable' doesn't mean "it crashes like Windows" -- it means
that it is constantly changing. It's probably fine for a production
machine though you'll have to keep up on security updates yourself.
(And be careful of 'apt-get upgrade' since some days things may be
broken. :))
> I have no particular bias as to what filesystem type I use for this.
It doesn't matter. the limit isn't related to the filesystem
(despite what some people keep saying), but to the kernel API and glibc.
ext2 has supported huge files on Alpha forever... because the length of
an 'int' is 64 bits on Alpha so glibc and the kernel handle it
without any special API's.
> How do I go about seting up a machine to do this?
See above.It works fine on 'unstable', and probably works on 'testing'
if you upgrade the kernel to 2.4.
> I have already set up a test machine to test this on. I installed
> stable, and upgraded to testing. It's a pretty minimal install so
> far.
>
> What is the best path to achieve this?
You'll also have to compile your code so that it knows you have >31 bits
for file pointer functions. (Search google for "large filesystem
summit" and you'll find the sorts of options for dealing with this,
either through new function calls or through compiler switches to make
it 'transparent'.)
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Installing with OLD CD-ROM problems
I have downloaded and burned the Potato ISO's onto cd's but it will not boot in the old CD-ROM drive of my laptop. Someone told me older drives cannot read newer format ISO burns. Is there a way to address this? Thank you
Re: pseudo-OT: curious -- why GPM????
Hi Xucean, I do a lot of my stuff in console mode (without x running). I like having mouse to cut/paste stuff here just like I do when I am using an editor under x. I set up my systems x server to use gpmdata and have never had mouse problems in either x or console. just my 2 Cents worth. On Sunday 25 February 2001 09:10, Xucaen wrote: > Hi all! > In the few months that I have been reading the > debian user list, I have seen many many posts > about the conflicts GPM seems to have with X. > I have never used GPM, but I thought it was only > something to be used in a text-only environment. > Is there really any significant advantage to > using it under X? I've read about users banging > their heads against a wall trying to get it to > work, and I was curious it it is really worth it > and if maybe I should be using it. What does it > do? (I don't have any man or info pages > installed) > > > > xucaen > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: LILO and big HD's
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 14:08, David B. Harris wrote: > To quote Pann McCuaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > # Reaches everywhere on my 30G disk partitioned like so: > # > # That is, all 4 partitions are bootable via lilo. > > Hmm... Try putting a kernel on the last partition, and then get LILO to > boot from it. If it works, would you mind sharing your lilo.conf? As luck would have it, there _IS_ a kernel on /dev/hdc4. Here is my lilo.conf, comments and blank lines stripped, and then blank lines inserted for legibility: lba32 boot=/dev/hda install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map prompt delay=100 timeout=100 vga=normal default=potato image=/boot/potato/vmlinuz-2.2.17 root=/dev/hdc3 label=potato read-only image=/boot/potato/vmlinuz-2.2.17-old root=/dev/hdc3 label=potato-old read-only image=/boot/rescue/vmlinuz-2.2.17 root=/dev/hda3 label=rescue read-only image=/mnt/boot/rescue/vmlinuz-2.2.17-compact root=/dev/hdc4 label=rescueOLD read-only optional other=/dev/hdc2 label=bsd table=/dev/hdc other =/dev/hda4 label=win95 table=/dev/hda Here are the disk partitions: Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 5 40131 83 Linux /dev/hda2 638265072+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda339 169 1052257+ 83 Linux /dev/hda4 * 170 1027 6891885c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hdc1 1 14899 7509064+ 83 Linux /dev/hdc2 14900 29799 7509600 a6 OpenBSD /dev/hdc3 29800 44699 7509600 83 Linux /dev/hdc4 44700 59598 7509096 83 Linux And here is /etc/fstab from /dev/hdc4 (note that both swap and the separate boot partition are commented out): /dev/hdc4 / ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 #/dev/hda3 noneswapsw 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,user,noauto0 0 /dev/scd0 /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0 #/dev/hda1 /boot ext2 rw0 2 OK, I just mounted /dev/hdc4 on /mnt, ran lilo using the lilo.conf file above, and booted rescueOLD. Here is the output of mount: /dev/hdc4 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) Voila! Luck, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Slow printing after Plip
Hi, printing a document after closing a Plip connection with "ifdown -s plip plip0" is very slow; it takes about 15 minutes per page and I have to reboot Linux in order to get back to normal speed. What should I do in order to correct this problem? TIA, Felix
Re: A modules question
> > In any case, I installed "stable" on this machine and all went well. It has an > Intel Etherxpress Pro 100 NIC in it, which requires the eepro module to be > loaded. > > I do this during install, and it is installed "permanently" such that when I > reboot > the machine it's reloaded. > > But I can't find any trace of how it's done! I don't see it in > /etc/modules.conf, > which in turn points me to the /etc/modules.conf directory. But a grep -I eep > in > that directory reveals no trace of this module. > > How does this work? And how can I _keep_ it workign after upgradeing? If you run> lsmod it will show you all loaded modules(e.g. eepro) and > modprobe -l will show all your available modules. When the kernel needs a feature that is not resident in the kernel, it sends a request to Kmod, which then uses modprobe to load a module. Modprobe looks for an alias line in /etc/modules.conf to find a match, and insmod is then asked to insert the module the kernel needs. You do not edit /etc/modules.conf directly, but instead put the alias lines (alias eth0 eepro.o) in /etc/modutils and then run> update-modules which regenerates the correct alias in /etc/modules.conf. When the modules are installed a dependency file is created with depmod in /lib/modules/*version*/modules.dep, so modprobe knows all the correct modules it needs to load for a requested feature. There is another file you can edit directly: /etc/modules with any modules to be loaded at boot time. So these are always loaded, where as the modules in /etc/modules.conf are loaded only when needed. -- LINUX~~nobody owns it~~everybody can use it~~anybody can improve it ~~~
Re: Netscape setup
"Jason N. Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How exactly do I get netscape working? I did an apt-get of > netscape, but don't really know what to do after that. I tried > running netscape from an xterm, but it complained that the Display > was incorrect. I tried exporting the Display variable, but that > didn't seem to do it. The Netscape menu choice doesn't do anything > at all. What am I missing? if you are setting the display for a login other than the one you used to start X, you must do a `xhost +` as the user that started X to allow other users to connect to the X display. -Anthony.
Re: pseudo-OT: curious -- why GPM????
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 09:10:48AM -0800, Xucaen wrote: > Hi all! > In the few months that I have been reading the > debian user list, I have seen many many posts > about the conflicts GPM seems to have with X. > I have never used GPM, but I thought it was only > something to be used in a text-only environment. > Is there really any significant advantage to > using it under X? I've read about users banging > their heads against a wall trying to get it to > work, and I was curious it it is really worth it > and if maybe I should be using it. What does it > do? (I don't have any man or info pages > installed) And that's why so many have problems with it, they refuse to RTFM! There is no need whatsoever to have any problems with GPM and X, just follow the examples and try to read the manpage for a change. <\rant> The ps2 port on PC's (or actually the treatment under Linux) doesn't allow two programs to read from that port at the same time. So if you have gpm running to use the mouse on the console *and* you want X to use that same mouse on such a ps/2 port: troubles, troubles. Not always, there are those who are lucky and experience none of the alludged malfunctionings that are reported, but those are few. Fortunately there is a way out of this mess: let gpm have the ps/2 port all for him self, but let him forward all data he read from that port to a socket (/dev/gpmdata) and next have X read from that socket instead of reading from the ps/2 port. That's basicly it. There are two extras that seem to confuse people: 1 gpm can do a mouse protocol translation instead of merely forwarding the mouse packets he reads from the ps/2 port. 2 to ease configuration in case gpm is later added or removed from the system it is adviced to use a symlink for mouse access in X. I would advise *not* to use the protocol translation stuff but in those rare circumstances where X doesn't understand the natural protocol of the mouse in use. So set the forwarding to raw. Example /etc/gpm.conf: device=/dev/psaux # let gpm handle the real thing responsiveness= repeat_type=raw # and forward all *without* protocol translation type=imps2 append="-l \"a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377\"" Example symbolic link: lrwxrwxrwx1 root root12 Feb 8 05:12 /dev/mouse -> /dev/gpmdata Example Pointer section in /etc/X11/XF86Config: Section "Pointer" Protocol"IMPS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" Resolution 200 ZAxisMapping4 5 EndSection Note that X's Protocol "IMPS/2" lines up with gpm's imps2, both refer to the same mouse protocol in use by my wheel mouse. -- groetjes, carel
Re: Looking for Potato drivers for 3Com - 3CCEFE574BT
I believe this is the same card as the 3c574 card, which is found under network devices/pcmcia network device supprort. I am actually using the 10baseT version of this card (yours would be the 10/100BaseT), and mine also has a very funny name like that -- 3CXE598ET, but is really just a 3c589 card. So I suspect yours will work just fine with that driver. I was nervous taking this risk when I bought the card -- expensive little bugger! -- but it worked. Tim (sending you this email with it right now) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Does anyone know where / if these might be found. Thank you > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > === == Timothy Klein || And what rough beast == == [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Its hour come round at last== == Aufwiedersehen! || Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born? == == Aufwiedersehen! || The beast of Redmond, nothing more.== ===
X on a Fujitsu Lifebook 420D
Hello everybody, So, here is the story, A friend gave me his old Lifebook 420D and I decided to go with a Debian install on it. I read up on the difficulties some have had getting XFree86 to work on it, and I've used their information to the best of my knowledge in getting X to work. Its a simple problem, but one I should know better to take care of. When I initiate X (startx or xinit) the laptop begins to spew a whole bunch of information and attempts to start X. It craps out shortly and returns the following error: Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' Some links have pointed me to some possibilities with the font.aliases file, but I haven't quite yet ventured there. I'm wondering if anyone has had any similar problems, and if you could hopefully point me along in the right direction. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, --Raf --- Rafael A. Hinojosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing with OLD CD-ROM problems
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 01:34:53PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have downloaded and burned the Potato ISO's onto cd's but it will not > boot in the old CD-ROM drive of my laptop. Someone told me older drives > cannot read newer format ISO burns. Is there a way to address this? > Is your bios configured to boot from CD? kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke
Re: pseudo-OT: curious -- why GPM????
carel, On Sun 25 Feb 01, 9:20 PM, Carel Fellinger said: > > > And that's why so many have problems with it, they refuse to RTFM! > There is no need whatsoever to have any problems with GPM and X, > just follow the examples and try to read the manpage for a change. > <\rant> i think we all know the saying "man pages are great for reference, but sometimes suck to learn from". try to re-read the man page for gpm with the mindset of someone who doesn't know what gpmdata is or what "repeating" means. if you can do this honestly, i'll bet you'll find that the information is there, but requires a definite leap of intuition. the man page definitely makes the possibility of conflict known. it just isn't supremely clear about how to resolve the problem. perhaps the answer is to make "repeat_type=raw" in the default gpm.conf, and to use type=protocol to specify the mouse protocol in XF86Config-4. if you can configure your consol mouse during installation, it seems to me that this would guarentee no problems with the mouse during X. pete pgpUtd63KKNiv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing with OLD CD-ROM problems
Sure is... commerice CD's are booting fine: MS / RH 6.2 the problem is with the CD made from Debian Potato ISO's FYI: the same CD boots fine on my new Athlon On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, ktb wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 01:34:53PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have downloaded and burned the Potato ISO's onto cd's but it will not > > boot in the old CD-ROM drive of my laptop. Someone told me older drives > > cannot read newer format ISO burns. Is there a way to address this? > > > > Is your bios configured to boot from CD? > kent > > -- > From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted > First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: pseudo-OT: curious -- why GPM????
> The ps2 port on PC's (or actually the treatment under Linux) doesn't > allow two programs to read from that port at the same time. So if > you have gpm running to use the mouse on the console *and* you want > X to use that same mouse on such a ps/2 port: troubles, troubles. > Not always, there are those who are lucky and experience none of the > alludged malfunctionings that are reported, but those are few. > Fortunately there is a way out of this mess: let gpm have the ps/2 > port all for him self, but let him forward all data he read from that > port to a socket (/dev/gpmdata) and next have X read from that socket > instead of reading from the ps/2 port. I have several computers at home and at work with ps/2 mouse and never, never have had any problem at all with both gpm and X reading directly from the /dev/psaux port. The only time when it didn't work, was when someone put protocol translation and mouse repeating by default in the gpm.conf file, and that puzzled me quite a bit before I realized which was the cause of the problem. But maybe I was just locky with the hardware combinations I use. Pf -- --- Pierfrancesco Caci | ik5pvx | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gusp.dyndns.org Firenze - Italia | Office for the Complication of Otherwise Simple Affairs Linux penny 2.4.2 #4 Sat Feb 24 11:11:48 CET 2001 i686 unknown
Re: How do I get larg file support?
On Sun Feb 25 14:33:51 2001 brian moore wrote... > >On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 02:08:38PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote: >> Let;s just cut to the chase on this. >> >> I need to be able to create, and work with larg files (> 2G) under >> Debian Linux. Secondly I need the moststable system for doing this, >> as it will be a production machine. > >You need many things from 'unstable' (though perhaps most of them are >now in 'testing', I haven't looked). > >The biggies: >a 2.4.x kernel >glibc2.1 >lots of little things like the current fileutils, etc Thanks for the quick reply. So, it looks like I have 2 choices here (remeber I have already upgraded to testing). 1. Cahnge ap-get sources to unstable, Take a deep breath, and do apt-get opgrade. 2. Figure out how to get a 2.4 kerne built on "tetsting" 2b. Find someone who has /debs for 2.4 for "testing" If I do 1. will I get the 2.4 kernel? 2 Will require me to figure out how to build the Debian way, a kernel for which I do not hvae .debs, since the 2.4 kerenel is not offered as a choice by dselect. > >Remember 'unstable' doesn't mean "it crashes like Windows" -- it means >that it is constantly changing. It's probably fine for a production >machine though you'll have to keep up on security updates yourself. >(And be careful of 'apt-get upgrade' since some days things may be >broken. :)) > >> I have no particular bias as to what filesystem type I use for this. > >It doesn't matter. the limit isn't related to the filesystem >(despite what some people keep saying), but to the kernel API and glibc. >ext2 has supported huge files on Alpha forever... because the length of >an 'int' is 64 bits on Alpha so glibc and the kernel handle it >without any special API's. So are you saying I could stay with ex2fs? Are you certain of this? > >> How do I go about seting up a machine to do this? > >See above.It works fine on 'unstable', and probably works on 'testing' >if you upgrade the kernel to 2.4. Got a pointer to how to compile a 2.4 kernel, the Debian wya, on "testing"? -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154 Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 2000 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
Re: pseudo-OT: curious -- why GPM????
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 12:35:57PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > On Sun 25 Feb 01, 9:20 PM, Carel Fellinger said: > > > > > > And that's why so many have problems with it, they refuse to RTFM! > > There is no need whatsoever to have any problems with GPM and X, > > just follow the examples and try to read the manpage for a change. > > <\rant> > > i think we all know the saying "man pages are great for reference, but > sometimes suck to learn from". > > try to re-read the man page for gpm with the mindset of someone who doesn't > know what gpmdata is or what "repeating" means. if you can do this > honestly, i'll bet you'll find that the information is there, but requires a > definite leap of intuition. the man page definitely makes the possibility > of conflict known. it just isn't supremely clear about how to resolve the > problem. I know, and in the past I've shown that I'm more then willing to help out, but if somewone comes in telling he has no man or info pages installed I some times get just a little pissed off:) But nonetheless I think I explained it all, didn't I? (But I appolojize (shees, cant type it:) for the outburst. Must be a louse day, I freigtend me elder kids too) > perhaps the answer is to make "repeat_type=raw" in the default gpm.conf, and > to use type=protocol to specify the mouse protocol in XF86Config-4. Ah, that's right, I'm still using X-3 on this machine. > if you can configure your consol mouse during installation, it seems to me > that this would guarentee no problems with the mouse during X. Yep, but use /dev/mouse linked to /dev/gpmdata even in the early stages of X configuration. Saves a lot of headaches later on:) -- groetjes, carel
2nd try - Faxgetty, MGetty and data calls
I've spent hours and hours trying to set up Hylafax/Faxgetty to auto detect fax/data calls and respond appropriately for data calls. I have had partial success in that I can now get it to distinguish between fax and data calls and accept the fax or start mgetty for a data call. Fax calls, receiving and sending, work well. Part of my original problem was that the Debian default config.ttyS1 GettyArgs included -h as the first option which caused Mgetty to start and then immediately stop after printing a 'Usage' line in the log. I have, at least been able to correct that. My current config.ttyS1 gettyargs is: GettyArgs: "-D %l dx_%s" I have also tried "-r -s %s %l" together with many other combinations. If I dial in from another machine the call is answered as a data call and mgetty started but on the machine that I dialled in from I see a line of about two dozen characters, most of which appear to be '?', then the cursor returns to the beginning of the line, overwrites part of the existing line before dropping down one line, printing a few more characters then dropping down another line and displays 'NO CARRIER'. I never get to see a login prompt and these tests are costing me a fortune in telephone calls! It doesn't seem to make any difference whatever options I try the result is always as described above. The getty on the Hylafax machine is left running and has to be killed. The mgetty log shows: 02/23 09:52:33 yS1 mgetty: experimental test release 1.1.21-Jul24 02/23 09:52:33 yS1 check for lockfiles 02/23 09:52:33 yS1 huh? It's *our* lock file! 02/23 09:52:33 yS1 locking the line 02/23 09:52:33 yS1 makelock(ttyS1) called 02/23 09:52:33 yS1 do_makelock: lock='/var/lock/LCK..ttyS1' 02/23 09:52:33 yS1 we *have* the line! 02/23 09:52:33 yS1 lock made 02/23 09:52:34 yS1 tio_get_rs232_lines: status: RTS CTS DSR DTR 02/23 09:52:34 yS1 tss: set speed to 115200 (10002) 02/23 09:52:34 yS1 tio_set_flow_control( HARD ) 02/23 09:52:34 yS1 waiting for line to clear (VTIME), read: 02/23 09:52:34 yS1 send: \d\d\d+++\d\d\dATZ[0d] 02/23 09:52:37 yS1 waiting for ``OK'' 02/23 09:52:37 yS1 got: [0d][0a]CONNECT[0d][0a][0d][0a]OK ** found ** 02/23 09:52:43 yS1 waiting for line to clear (VTIME), read: [0d][0a] 02/23 09:52:43 yS1 removing lock file 02/23 09:52:43 yS1 waiting... Although, in this section, the modem is reset I have tried other options which give the following in the log: 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 mgetty: experimental test release 1.1.21-Jul24 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 check for lockfiles 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 huh? It's *our* lock file! 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 locking the line 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 makelock(ttyS1) called 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 do_makelock: lock='/var/lock/LCK..ttyS1' 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 we *have* the line! 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 lock made 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 tio_get_rs232_lines: status: RTS CTS DSR DTR 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 tss: set speed to 115200 (10002) 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 tio_set_flow_control( HARD ) 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 waiting for line to clear (VTIME), read: 02/23 09:40:20 yS1 send: \dATQ0V1H0[0d] 02/23 09:40:21 yS1 waiting for ``OK'' 02/23 09:40:21 yS1 got: [0d][0a]OK ** found ** 02/23 09:40:21 yS1 send: AT[0d] 02/23 09:40:21 yS1 waiting for ``OK'' 02/23 09:40:21 yS1 got: [0d][0a][0d][0a]OK ** found ** 02/23 09:40:21 yS1 waiting for line to clear (VTIME), read: [0d][0a] 02/23 09:40:22 yS1 removing lock file 02/23 09:40:22 yS1 waiting... I have also read as much documentation as I could find without any luck and have tried posting on two newsgroups and the Debian mailing list once before but have had no replies. I am running Debian 2.2 with kernel 2.2.18pre21, I have a Hayes Accura 56k fax/data modem and I am running Hylafax version 4.0.2-14. The machine that I'm dialling in from is running Windows 95 although I have tried it from another Debian machine using Minicom with exactly the same results. I'm no longer subscribed to the list so any e-mail (see address below) replies would be welcome. I do follow the list in the Debian archives but that lags behind by about a day. I apologise in advance for that bit of important information that I have almost certainly forgotten to include. What am I doing wrong? Help would be very much appreciated. Barry Samuels My real e-mail address is: bsamuels (AT) datamansys (DOT) co (DOT) uk
Re: How do I get larg file support?
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 04:01:01PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Sun Feb 25 14:33:51 2001 brian moore wrote...
> >
> >On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 02:08:38PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
> >> Let;s just cut to the chase on this.
> >>
> >> I need to be able to create, and work with larg files (> 2G) under
> >> Debian Linux. Secondly I need the moststable system for doing this,
> >> as it will be a production machine.
> >
> >You need many things from 'unstable' (though perhaps most of them are
> >now in 'testing', I haven't looked).
> >
> >The biggies:
> >a 2.4.x kernel
> >glibc2.1
> >lots of little things like the current fileutils, etc
>
> Thanks for the quick reply.
>
> So, it looks like I have 2 choices here (remeber I have already
> upgraded to
> testing).
>
> 1. Cahnge ap-get sources to unstable, Take a deep breath, and do apt-get
> opgrade.
>
> 2. Figure out how to get a 2.4 kerne built on "tetsting"
>
> 2b. Find someone who has /debs for 2.4 for "testing"
>
> If I do 1. will I get the 2.4 kernel?
Nope.
> 2 Will require me to figure out how to build the Debian way, a kernel
> for
> which I do not hvae .debs, since the 2.4 kerenel is not offered as a
> choice by
> dselect.
Just grab it from kernel.org like usual, and use 'make-kpkg' to make
your own kernel debs. (I dislike precompiled kernels and all the fluff
they have for hardware I have no interest in -- an no support for
hardware I -am- interested in like my pjbox. :))
> So are you saying I could stay with ex2fs? Are you certain of this?
Yes.
[gimli:/doom/bem] 1:10:34pm 130 % dd if=/dev/zero of=FatFile bs=1M
count=3000
3000+0 records in
3000+0 records out
[gimli:/doom/bem] 1:14:49pm 131 % ls -l FatFile
-rw---1 bem bem 3145728000 Feb 25 13:14 FatFile
[gimli:/doom/bem] 1:14:59pm 132 % cat /proc/filesystems
nodev sockfs
nodev shm
nodev pipefs
nodev proc
ext2
iso9660
nodev autofs
nodev nfs
nodev devpts
nodev usbdevfs
A nice fat 3G file of zeros and it's on e2fs.
> >> How do I go about seting up a machine to do this?
> >
> >See above.It works fine on 'unstable', and probably works on 'testing'
> >if you upgrade the kernel to 2.4.
>
> Got a pointer to how to compile a 2.4 kernel, the Debian wya, on
> "testing"?
Get kernel source from kernel.org, untar, cd linux, make
(menu|x)?config, fakeroot make-kpkg --revision Custom.1 binary, dpkg -i
../kernel-image-whatever, reboot. :)
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'u', chr(32 + length()*3/4) . $_; s/\0+$//; $_ ^= "C" x length; } /\.([^.]+)/g;
Re: pseudo-OT: curious -- why GPM????
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 09:47:36PM +0100, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: ... > I have several computers at home and at work with ps/2 mouse and > never, never have had any problem at all with both gpm and X reading > directly from the /dev/psaux port. The only time when it didn't work, > was when someone put protocol translation and mouse repeating by > default in the gpm.conf file, and that puzzled me quite a bit before I > realized which was the cause of the problem. > But maybe I was just locky with the hardware combinations I use. Seems to have to do with the mouse too. I used to have a simple ps/2 only mouse, seemed to work. But with me new wheel mouse, troubles. I think it might have to do with mouse initialisation, and the mouse itself switching to a different protocol if it isn't addressed as it wants to be addressed. So as ever, YMMV. -- groetjes, carel
sound on potato stopped working....
it would appear this just happened without any real updates gqmpeg claims mpg123 is playing the file I have the volume up on both my headset and the player and yet no sound?? Anyone see this phenomena before? and yet I am pretty sure there was no update the only thing I was doing was rsyncing files in / including /dev/ to another partition -walter
Re: pseudo-OT: curious -- why GPM????
On Sun 25 Feb 01, 10:13 PM, Carel Fellinger said: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 12:35:57PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > On Sun 25 Feb 01, 9:20 PM, Carel Fellinger said: > > > if you can configure your consol mouse during installation, it seems to me > > that this would guarentee no problems with the mouse during X. > > Yep, but use /dev/mouse linked to /dev/gpmdata even in the early stages > of X configuration. Saves a lot of headaches later on:) just to let everyone following this thread know, that was the main source of my confusion when i was working on my girlfriend's computer! what could be more natural than having gpm read from the device /dev/mouse? :-) perhaps debian should consider making the symlinks: /dev/Xmouse -> /dev/gpmdata| /dev/gpmmouse -> /dev/psaux (or whatever mouse you use) this kind of setup would be really hard to mess up! pete pgp4v0USgsqwN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pseudo-OT: curious -- why GPM????
On Sun 25 Feb 01, 10:18 PM, Carel Fellinger said: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 09:47:36PM +0100, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: > ... > > I have several computers at home and at work with ps/2 mouse and > > never, never have had any problem at all with both gpm and X reading > > directly from the /dev/psaux port. The only time when it didn't work, > > was when someone put protocol translation and mouse repeating by > > default in the gpm.conf file, and that puzzled me quite a bit before I > > realized which was the cause of the problem. > > But maybe I was just locky with the hardware combinations I use. > > Seems to have to do with the mouse too. I used to have a simple ps/2 > only mouse, seemed to work. But with me new wheel mouse, troubles. > I think it might have to do with mouse initialisation, and the mouse > itself switching to a different protocol if it isn't addressed as it > wants to be addressed. So as ever, YMMV. i agree completely. on my system, X and gpm both use /dev/psaux. i use a logitech wheelie mouse. on my girlfriend's (nearly same) system, X and gpm tried to both use /dev/psaux and it caused conflict. both are woody. she uses a microsoft wheelie mouse. i'm almost SURE it has to do with the mouse brand. pete pgpF0PsIY3xO1.pgp Description: PGP signature
poweroff just doing "shutdown"
after all processes are ended.. the machine just hangs with "poweroff" on the screen. "^alt del" reboots fine. FYI the exact same machine, with potato, poweroffed fine on a previous installation. Thank you
Re: xfree 4.0
On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 10:34:54AM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: > XFree 4.0 has a new way to handle scalable fonts. Probably you did > something that got it working. I am having the same problem with > fonts also--still working on the solution. Apparently the new font > server does scalable/true-type fonts built-in--no need for a separate > true-type font server. > > xf86cfg crashing is a known bug, already (repeatedly) reported. > > I've been trying to fix things up by hand, but maybe I should try > xf86config; I was reluctant to because it seems to build from scratch, > rather than from the file I have (but there may be options to do so). I didn't see any. I rebuilt from scratch and saved the old one. However, it wasn't very difficult to do, and it fixed all the problems. I'd like to know where XF86Setup went. That worked and it was easier to use. If xf86cfg is to replace it, they shouldn't have gotten rid of XF86Setup until xf86cfg was stable. Mike
Re: A modules question
hi mike, i read your email and found it very useful. a few questions remain: > If you run> lsmod it will show you all loaded modules(e.g. eepro) > and > modprobe -l will show all your available modules. > When the kernel needs a feature that is not resident in the kernel, it > sends a request to Kmod, which then uses modprobe to load a module. > Modprobe looks for an alias line in /etc/modules.conf to find a > match, can you be more precise about this step? looking through /etc/modules.conf, i assume kmod hands modprobe something like: "char-major-10-130", "/dev/ppp" or "cipher-3" and then modprobe finds the lines: alias cipher-3fish2 alias /dev/pppppp_generic alias char-major-10-130 softdog and then hands "fish2.o", "ppp_generic.o" and "softdog.o" to insmod? > and insmod is then asked to insert the module the kernel needs. > You do not edit /etc/modules.conf directly, but instead put the alias > lines (alias eth0 eepro.o) in /etc/modutils and then run> update-modules > which regenerates the correct alias in /etc/modules.conf. just for my own knowledge, is this (running update-modules to update modules.conf) the way things are done on other distributions too? >When the modules are installed a dependency file is created with > depmod in /lib/modules/*version*/modules.dep, so modprobe knows all the > correct modules it needs to load for a requested feature. so make modules_install runs depmod -a automatically? > There is another file you can edit directly: /etc/modules with > any modules to be loaded at boot time. So these are always loaded, where > as the modules in /etc/modules.conf are loaded only when needed. again, just for my own curiosity, do other distributions also autoload modules on boot using /etc/modules? thank you for posting this email. i found it extremely helpful. pete pgpDmRoMi2WMj.pgp Description: PGP signature
pppd wanted
Hi, I am trying to set up a network connection between two computers which are connected with a serial cable (null modem). One computer is an i386 with 2.4.0, the other is an Macintosh Quadra 610 with 2.2.10, both running stable. I found an old conversion cable so I can connect apples with rs232 ports. It works, I have a connection (I can cat a file at one machine, and it comes out unscrambled on the other). I do: pppd -detach crtscts lock 192.168.2.254:192.168.2.1 /dev/ttyS1 19200 noauth on both computers (and the ip's swapped), as described in the ppp howto. Both return: Using interface ppp0 Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1 and wait, and after a while they get a LCP timeout sending Config-Requests. In the manpage of pppd there is said that crtscts does not work correctly on macintoshes, but they do not say what will work. I tried other options like xon/xoff, cdtr/cts, modem, but without succes. I also tried to set up the ppp0 interface with ifconfig while both computers are waiting for connection, but also without succes. Am I forgetting something? Thanks in advance, Sebastiaan
Re: X on a Fujitsu Lifebook 420D
* Rafael Hinojosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010225 22:07]: > Its a simple problem, but one I should know better to take care of. When > I initiate X (startx or xinit) the laptop begins to spew a whole bunch of > information and attempts to start X. It craps out shortly and returns the > following error: > > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' Some things to try: % dpkg -s xfonts-base be sure this package is installed % grep misc /etc/X11/XF86Config you need a font path like FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" % ls -l /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc all the files in this path need to be world readable Anyway, try sending the startx output to a file with startx >somefile 2>&1 to find more information about what is happening. Cheers, -- David
X on a Fujitsu Lifebook 420D (fwd)
Okay, I found elsewhere and ran apt-get install x-core something... It worked, I've got X running (crappy colors, but whatever) now I'm experiencing the 1" offset everyone talks about. I tried to set the vga=770 in lilo.conf but nothing happens, and I get an error: You passed an undefined mode number press to see available vidoe modes, to continue, or wait 30 sec... I've tried both options. With return I'm presented with a list of available modes, I'm half way through the list; I'll let you all know if I find one that works. --Raf --- Rafael A. Hinojosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:32:26 -0500 (EST) From: Rafael Hinojosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Debian-laptop_Users_Group Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: X on a Fujitsu Lifebook 420D Hello everybody, So, here is the story, A friend gave me his old Lifebook 420D and I decided to go with a Debian install on it. I read up on the difficulties some have had getting XFree86 to work on it, and I've used their information to the best of my knowledge in getting X to work. Its a simple problem, but one I should know better to take care of. When I initiate X (startx or xinit) the laptop begins to spew a whole bunch of information and attempts to start X. It craps out shortly and returns the following error: Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' Some links have pointed me to some possibilities with the font.aliases file, but I haven't quite yet ventured there. I'm wondering if anyone has had any similar problems, and if you could hopefully point me along in the right direction. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, --Raf --- Rafael A. Hinojosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X on a Fujitsu Lifebook 420D
> > > > Fatal server error: > > could not open default font 'fixed' > > Some things to try: > > % dpkg -s xfonts-base > be sure this package is installed > > % grep misc /etc/X11/XF86Config > you need a font path like > FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" > > % ls -l /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc > all the files in this path need to be world readable > > Anyway, try sending the startx output to a file with > startx >somefile 2>&1 > to find more information about what is happening. David, Thanks, I've managed to get X working since then. I found somewhere that I could run apt-get and reinstall the X packages. Did that, it comes up. It came up in a small frame within a frame at first, but I switched my XF86Config file to use VGA16 at 800x600. Now I get the 1" offset everyone talks about. I've tried to have lilo.conf use vga=770 but it then tells me that the setting is unspecified and offers me to continue booting or insert another setting. I'm gonna keep trying. Thanks for your suggestions, I'll make sure to save them... --Raf
aolserver/openacs package dependency problem
Hi there. I'm having a problem installing openacs on my sid system. The problem arises because of bug #84041 with aolserver 3.2-4 which fails during install. To circumvent this problem, I installed aolserver 3.0rc2-4 available in potato. I then attempted to install openacs, which correctly installs, but fails to configure in the openacsconfigure script because of the call to /usr/sbin/aoladddb available in aolserver-postgress which is not listed as a dependency in openacs. Attempting to install aolserver-postgress results in the following error: # dpkg -i aolserver-postgres_3.0rc2-4.deb Selecting previously deselected package aolserver-postgres. (Reading database ... 29104 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking aolserver-postgres (from aolserver-postgres_3.0rc2-4.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of aolserver-postgres: aolserver-postgres depends on libpgsql2 (>= 6.4-0); however: Package libpgsql2 is not installed. dpkg: error processing aolserver-postgres (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: aolserver-postgres However, I can't install libpgsql2, because my system is installed with libpgsql2.1 available from sid. How can I resolve this problem? I'm willing to attempt to track down and correct the bug with aolserver 3.2, but I'm not sure how to debug problems with debian installation scripts. Any help appreciated.
kernel compile warning
Hi, I have upgraded to sid and is now trying to compile kernel 2.2.4 the old fashioned way. However, I get this warning when using make menuconfig...should I worry?make : warning clock skew detected your buil d may be incomplete. I am using k-6 II 450 if that helps... How do I get to fix this warning? thanks for any info.
Re: rpm .spec to ../debian
On Sunday 25 February 2001 08:14, Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a quick and dirty way, say a script or utiltiy, to > > convert an rpm .spec file into the ../debian (sub)directory > > needed by build-package and friends? > > Don't know how relevant it is but I would start by looking at > alien: > > > This is a tool only suitable for binary packages. > > > With the large number of debs I wonder which package are you > interesting in that has not been debianized? Mozilla 0.8. Have alienated it, launched it and watched it go comatose. The rpm works fine in LM 7.2. Another poster, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, suggested debhelper for the tarballs (which one can extract from the src.rpm). Well, I have been blindly using it regularly enough to produce my own private advance release packages. It (eventually) fails on sources as massive as the irradiated browser.
Re: kernel compile warning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I have upgraded to sid and is now trying to compile kernel 2.2.4 the old > fashioned way. However, I get this warning when using make > menuconfig...should I worry?make : warning clock skew detected your buil d > may be incomplete. > > I am using k-6 II 450 if that helps... > > How do I get to fix this warning? Set your clock - your message came through timestamped Januray 2000. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom. pgpwkjTzQRiiJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: From: in mutt
I would also suggest to change your reply-to. For me my user name is adeo but
email is suadeo, so i would suggest changing your reply (if you need to).
my_hdr Reply-To [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Hi!
> >
> > anyone could help me on how to set the From: when using, or maybe in exim,
> > I used pine before, but I like more mutt's editor :)
> >
> > Thnks
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Scott Vaverchak {
[EMAIL PROTECTED] {
suadeo : [+ dat] to speak in favor of;
suadeo : to recommend, advise (a person);
}
}
Re: From: in mutt
Opps. I messed up. I forgot to put the : in there... here is what it should look
like...
my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There, now I feel better ;p
--
Scott Vaverchak {
[EMAIL PROTECTED] {
suadeo : [+ dat] to speak in favor of;
suadeo : to recommend, advise (a person);
}
}
Problems with tulip driver
Folks, I'm finding it impossible to get networking functional on the box I've just installed 2.2r2 on. This is not an exotic setup, and I've successfully installed several other distros on it at one time or another, but the Debian install has been a complete wash. Why does my NetGear FA-310TX refuse to work with this kernel? I searched the archives of the mailing lists exhaustively, and I've found no mention of this problem, but it clearly is not working on my box. I've got an AMD K6-2 350 on an FIC board; the only cards in the machine are a BT-950 SCSI card, the NetGear card, and an older SB AWE32 card. The master disk on the primary controller is an ACER 50X CD, and the master disk on the secondary controller is a CD-RW drive, a Matsushita 8x4x32. The box works perfectly with RedHat 6.0 and 6.2, and with Mandrake 7.0. The hard disk is an IBM 4.3 GB FW-SCSI. The boot logs show that the kernel identifies the card as a "Lite-On 82c168 PNIC" (???), and the interface gets configured with the proper IP, netmask, etc, but any attempts to send any data out over the wire fail. Any suggestions? best, Jim Wiggs
Upgraded to Windows 2000 - now all files saved are corrupt
I installed Win2k on two workstations now all the files I open and save back to my Debian 2.2 file server are corrupt, filled with nonesense (probably nulls). I downloaded and upgraded samba to 2.0.7 but the problem still persists. Can anyone help me with this problem? Chris MasonBox 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West IndiesTel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463USA Fax (561) 382-7771Take a virtual tour of the islandhttp://net.ai/ The Anguilla GuideFind out more about NetConceptswww.netconcepts.aiTalk to me in real time with Instant Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]SignatureF331 8AD1 36FB B3B0 DF9F D95B 8024 D1EA 7450 D50C ..
Re: poweroff just doing "shutdown"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after all processes are ended.. the machine just hangs with "poweroff" on the screen. "^alt del" reboots fine. FYI the exact same machine, with potato, poweroffed fine on a previous installation. Thank you Maybe your apm isn't activated (or even isn't compiled into the kernel). To activate apm, enter at the lilo-prompt "liunx apm=on", if that helps, then you can put "apm=on" in /etc/lilo.conf's append=""-line and install a new bootblock with "lilo".
Re: poweroff just doing "shutdown"
could you have changed kernel in the meantime ? or try to see if you have a module called apm.o I had the same stuff until I recompiled my kernel with apm support.(I haven't tried as a module). Bye Romain On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > after all processes are ended.. the machine just hangs with "poweroff" on > the screen. "^alt del" reboots fine. > > FYI the exact same machine, with potato, poweroffed fine on a previous > installation. > > Thank you > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
KDE2 install
I have a woody system running xfree 4.0.2 and want to give KDE a try but can't find the KDE package. I checked the archives and tried 'apt-get install task-kde' but I get the following message: "Package task-kde has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the conntents of sources.list." I figure I need to add the a location to sources.list but don't know which site to add. (Currently apt-get is looking in: ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib Thanks in advance. John.
Re: KDE2 install
> >I figure I need to add the a location to sources.list but don't know >which site to add. (Currently apt-get is >looking in: > >ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib >ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib > for gods sake get ftp://security.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib in there as well
Re: KDE2 install
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:50:31 -0800, John Mautz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have a woody system running xfree 4.0.2 and want to give KDE a try but >can't find the KDE package. > >I checked the archives and tried 'apt-get install task-kde' but I get >the following message: > >"Package task-kde has no available version, but exists in the database. >This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and >never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the >conntents >of sources.list." > >I figure I need to add the a location to sources.list but don't know >which site to add. (Currently apt-get is >looking in: > >ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib >ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib > >Thanks in advance. >John. Add: ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto optional qt1apps or http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps And, as has already been pointed out, get security.debian.org added as well.
Re: X on a Fujitsu Lifebook 420D (fwd)
Alright, As I mentioned earlier, I've managed to solve the initial font problem I had, and get X up and running. Now, I'm faced with the 1" offset I read about all over the web. I tried using vga=770 (or vga=7) but get no luck. I've read on some places about a CONGIF_VIDEO_GFX_HACK, which would warrant an kernel recompile. I'm gonna attempt this, unless anyone has any other suggestions. Unfortunately, I've never really done a kernel recompile (which would be good experience). So I don't really know where to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, --Raf --- Rafael A. Hinojosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE2 install
> ftp://security.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib I thought security only had stable? Took a peek... Seems it does have more.. HOWEVER.. There is no ftp://security.debian.org/debian There is ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security potato|sid|slink|stable There is http://security.debian.org/dists There is no "testing" or "unstable" symlinks only a stable symlink ... therefore the following work: deb http://security.debian.org potato|sid|slink|stable main contrib non-free deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security potato|sid|slink|stable main contrib nonfree Based upon: ftp://security.debian.org/ has: d--x--x--x 2 root root 4096 Jul 30 1999 bin drwxrwxr-x 6 ftp 802 4096 Feb 25 19:53 debian-non-US drwxrwsr-x 3 904 1129 4096 Aug 16 2000 debian-security d--x--x--x 2 root root 4096 Apr 14 1999 etc d--x--x--x 2 root root 4096 May 28 1999 lib dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 14 1999 pub http://security.debian.org/dists/ has: potato/ 14-Oct-2000 09:39 - sid/19-Aug-1999 21:46 - slink/ 04-Sep-2000 21:04 - stable/ 14-Oct-2000 09:39 - folder.gif Description: GIF image
