Re: But ....

[D-Man]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 05:19:55PM +0200, Pietro Cagnoni wrote:
| > On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 09:23:53AM +0200, Pietro Cagnoni wrote:
| > | 2) reboot in maintenance mode (or whatever is called in english: in
| > | italian is "Modalità provvisoria": 640x480 screen with very few colors);
| > 
| > FYI it is called "Safe Mode" in English.  You may need to press F5
| > during startup to get the menu to select Safe Mode from.
| 
| safe? does it mean you can't make any damage that way? or maybe it
| inhibits the computer self destruction, and it'safer for you to use? or
| is it the mode you need when you're closed in a safe?
| 
| "Modalita' provvisoria" in italian could be translated "temporary mode",
| and has some of the meanings of "unstable mode".
| 
| so, where's the "stable mode"?
| 
| maybe i should open a call with tech support...

Hehe.  :-)

I think it means "pick 'safe' settings for your video card and don't
start up any fancy services so that, maybe, the user can fix what's
broke".  Remember that Windows doesn't know what a "virtual console"
is and _always_ needs a graphics card and mouse.

-D

Re: wierd xmms question --> SOLVED

[Mike Pfleger]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 10:57:06PM -0400, Ari Pollak wrote:
> Well, there is a setting.. In XMMS options, under MPEG Layer 1/2/3
> confiration, in the Streaming tab, all the way at the bottom..
> SHOUT/Icecast title streaming


Excellent!
Thanks so very much!

-Mike

Re: dselect is a liar

[Mike Fedyk]

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 01:51:50PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 12:38:56AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:19:49PM +1000, Bruce McIntyre wrote:
> > > when i fire up dselect, it tells me that fetchmail version 5.8.11-1 is 
> > > availible.
> > > when i check the same on the website it states that version 5.8.12.1 is 
> > > current
> > > 
> > > my problem is that fetchmailconf 5.8.12-1 depends on the latter version, 
> > > which dselect doesn't know about.
> > > 
> > > the pertinent section in /etc/apt/sources.list reads:
> > > 
> > > deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> > > deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main 
> > > contrib non-free
> > > 
> > > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> > > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib 
> > > non-free
> > > 
> > > is this wrong ?

...

> I don't mean to flood the list here---but I thought the subject header was 
> not so
> very clear. 
> I am wondering if this problem is linked to the archives not present problem 
> some
> people are having. 
> 
> Bruce McIntyre.
> 

Add some deb lines that point to mirrors in the USA (or whatever other
country that doesn't have trouble) to the bottom of
your sources.list file.

Some of the austrailian mirrors have been known to be out of sync with
the rest of debian.  This way, if they have old data, you'll get data
from the USA, if the AU servers are in sync, you'll get it from there
because apt prefers the servers at the top of the config file...

Mike

modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135 (daemon.log)

[Gladimir]

I have tracked this down to the point that I know it is an alias for the
real time clock, and that it only occurs soon after switching to run-level 6
and run-level 0.  I also know that the alias exists in two files, that I
know of; /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modutils/arch/i386.  Removing the alias
from i386 has no effect.

I have seen a few people suggesting that I should edit modules.conf, but the
modules.conf file has comments stating that it should never be edited
manually.  Is it either safe or effective to manually edit this file?  If
not the modules.conf file, then which file do I edit to affect this
workaround until I can compile rtc in the kernel?

Thanks in advance for any help.

- gladimir

RE: Date Problems...

[Ian Perry]

The #uname -a  command also gives you the version and date of compilation
(installation ?)
eg one our old machines gives
Linux router1 2.0.36 #1 Thu Sep 2 09:28:09 EST 1999 i686 unknown
one of the newer gives
Linux router2 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i586 unknown

I often use the command 'hwclock --systohc' to set the clock to the system
time after a date command.

Ian


-Original Message-
From: Ari Pollak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:53 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Date Problems...


First of all, I don't think that's the real 'uname -a' output. uname -a
has more than just the date. Second of all, the hardware clock and the
system (Linux) clock are different. if you type the command 'date',
you'll probably get the same output as uname. To transfer the hardware
clock to the system clock, use the command 'hwclock --hctosys'.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 10:34:55PM -0500, Leonard Leblanc wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> This is probably going to be an easy question for most of you, but I can't
> seem to get a grasp on what the problem is...
>
> # hwclock
> Tue Jul 17 22:38:11 2001  -0.044470 seconds
> # hwclock --localtime
> Wed Jul 18 03:37:34 2001  -0.558978 seconds
> # uname -a
> Sat Nov 18 18:47:15 EST 2000
>
> This one completely has me baffled and I can't seem to find any
information
> on it.  Any help is greatly appreciated.
>

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Re: Date Problems...

[Calvin Chong]

on 7/18/01 11:34 AM, Leonard Leblanc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hey All,
> 
> This is probably going to be an easy question for most of you, but I can't
> seem to get a grasp on what the problem is...
> 
> # hwclock
> Tue Jul 17 22:38:11 2001  -0.044470 seconds
> # hwclock --localtime
> Wed Jul 18 03:37:34 2001  -0.558978 seconds
> # uname -a
> Sat Nov 18 18:47:15 EST 2000
> 
> This one completely has me baffled and I can't seem to find any information
> on it.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

This may be a problem due to timezone settings - but 'm quite SURE that you
get it wrong - use ntpdate

Re: PINE

[Calvin Chong]

on 7/18/01 11:42 AM, Jeff Maxson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, dude wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I know PINE is not what debian users use,
>> but i recently convinced my girlfriend to
>> let me install debian on her windows computer.
>> Her only gripe with using it is
>> that there are no debs of Pine.
>> 
>> She has tried building it from source
>> downloaded from washington.edu
>> but to no avail.
>> 
>> Are there any debian-ized sources around
>> 
>> or even debs being help somewhere?
>> 
>> Thanks
> 
> I use pine, and just downloaded the binary from washington's site.  I then
> renamed the huge filename to "pine", stuck that file into a directory in
> my path, and it works fine.  (prbably not the *debian* way, but it works
> fine for my home computer...)

by the fine way, making a debian package isn't that hard after-all, right?

Re: Date Problems...

[Ari Pollak]

First of all, I don't think that's the real 'uname -a' output. uname -a
has more than just the date. Second of all, the hardware clock and the
system (Linux) clock are different. if you type the command 'date',
you'll probably get the same output as uname. To transfer the hardware
clock to the system clock, use the command 'hwclock --hctosys'.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 10:34:55PM -0500, Leonard Leblanc wrote:
> Hey All,
> 
> This is probably going to be an easy question for most of you, but I can't 
> seem to get a grasp on what the problem is...
> 
> # hwclock
> Tue Jul 17 22:38:11 2001  -0.044470 seconds
> # hwclock --localtime
> Wed Jul 18 03:37:34 2001  -0.558978 seconds
> # uname -a
> Sat Nov 18 18:47:15 EST 2000 
>   
> This one completely has me baffled and I can't seem to find any information 
> on it.  Any help is greatly appreciated.
> 

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Re: VCD program under Gnome/X11?

[Chun Kit Edwin Lau]

but I thought newest esd stuff won't work with libasound1, right? I try 
installing libasound1 with the new esd stuff but it said something about 
unsupport protocal or something like that.  And I think that's where libasound2 
comes in right?

Edwin Lau

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 01:28:19AM +0800, csj wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 July 2001 23:39, Chun Kit Edwin Lau wrote:
> > Thanx but xine dependence screwed up. it require libasound1 not
> > libasound2 which is needed by esd I think
> 
> No problem here (sorry for the ugly output):
> 
> alpha:~$ dpkg -l libasound1 libasound2 xine
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | 
> Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
> uppercase=bad)
> ||/ NameVersion Description
> +++-===-===-==
> ii  libasound1  0.5.10-2Advanced Linux Sound Architecture 
> (libraries)
> ii  libasound2  0.9.0beta4-1.1  Advanced Linux Sound Architecture 
> (libraries)
> ii  xine0.4.3-1 MPEG, VCD, DVD audio/video player 
> for X11
> 
> 
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Date Problems...

[Leonard Leblanc]

Hey All,

This is probably going to be an easy question for most of you, but I can't 
seem to get a grasp on what the problem is...

# hwclock
Tue Jul 17 22:38:11 2001  -0.044470 seconds
# hwclock --localtime
Wed Jul 18 03:37:34 2001  -0.558978 seconds
# uname -a
Sat Nov 18 18:47:15 EST 2000 

This one completely has me baffled and I can't seem to find any information 
on it.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

-- 
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Vice President - Technology
www.emergeknowledge.com

Re: PINE

[Jeff Maxson]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, dude wrote:

>
> I know PINE is not what debian users use,
> but i recently convinced my girlfriend to
> let me install debian on her windows computer.
> Her only gripe with using it is
> that there are no debs of Pine.
>
> She has tried building it from source
> downloaded from washington.edu
> but to no avail.
>
> Are there any debian-ized sources around
>
> or even debs being help somewhere?
>
> Thanks

I use pine, and just downloaded the binary from washington's site.  I then
renamed the huge filename to "pine", stuck that file into a directory in
my path, and it works fine.  (prbably not the *debian* way, but it works
fine for my home computer...)

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: wierd xmms question

[Ari Pollak]

Well, there is a setting.. In XMMS options, under MPEG Layer 1/2/3
confiration, in the Streaming tab, all the way at the bottom..
SHOUT/Icecast title streaming

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 07:13:14PM -0700, Mike Pfleger wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> This is kind of an odd one, but does anybody here listen to www.3po3.com
> using xmms?  I could swear that I used to get music track info scrolling
> in the text display.  I have a bunch of track titles and artist names
> jotted down on my notepad, and I can't imagine how else I got them.
> 
> So... here's the big question:
> Is this something in the xmms settings that I've managed to botch?  Or
> has 3po3 just stopped streaming this kind of data with their audio?  Is
> this something that is normally done with streaming mp3?
> 
> TIA,
> Mike
> 
> 
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Re: PINE

[Ari Pollak]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 07:23:58PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I haven't used pine in ages. Switched to mutt not long ago, and haven't
> looked back.. But, there was a 'mana' package, which appears to be a
> fork from pine. Worked about as well when I tried it, but I haven't heard
> a thing about it since.
> http://kt.zork.net/debian/dd2914_2_print.html#3
> 

Wouldn't it be illegal to fork pine? 

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Re: PINE

[Simon Law]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, dude wrote:

> 
> I know PINE is not what debian users use,
> but i recently convinced my girlfriend to
> let me install debian on her windows computer.
> Her only gripe with using it is
> that there are no debs of Pine.
> 
> She has tried building it from source
> downloaded from washington.edu
> but to no avail.
> 
> Are there any debian-ized sources around
> 
> or even debs being help somewhere?

Try "apt-get install pine4-diffs" and see how that works out
for you.

Simon

Re: perl question

[Calvin Chong]

Simply Speaking, This would have been done better with these
shell commands:

# cd /directory
# rm -rf *
# cd ..;

:)

rgrds,
Calvin "Lamer"

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>Subject: perl question
>Date: Thu, Jul 18, 2002, 4:53 AM
>

> Hello...
>
> Here's one for some of the perl guys
>
> I want to delete a directory that will have files in it...
> I don't know the name of the files there for wildcards might
> be needed
>
> I understand that "rmdir" will wipe out an empty directory
> and "unlink" will wipe out files (only if I know the names of the files)
>
> What would be a nice command to remove a dirtory that had files in it?
> Even better what would be a nice command to delete all files
> in one directory... (leaving the directory intact)
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
>
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Re: PINE

[idalton]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 09:28:42PM -0400, dude wrote:
> 
> I know PINE is not what debian users use,
> but i recently convinced my girlfriend to
> let me install debian on her windows computer.
> Her only gripe with using it is
> that there are no debs of Pine.
> 
> She has tried building it from source
> downloaded from washington.edu
> but to no avail.
> 
> Are there any debian-ized sources around
> 
> or even debs being help somewhere?

I haven't used pine in ages. Switched to mutt not long ago, and haven't
looked back.. But, there was a 'mana' package, which appears to be a
fork from pine. Worked about as well when I tried it, but I haven't heard
a thing about it since.
Kernel cousin Debian has something about it:
http://kt.zork.net/debian/dd2914_2_print.html#3

Also, I personally found pine to be very much a memory hog on my system,
using about 100MB memory just to load one single email folder. Granted,
it was a fairly large folder of 'debian-user' I believe. But still...

-- 
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I will be switching my email addresses from @ferret.dyndns.org to
@mail.aom.geek on or after September 1, 2001, but not until after
Debian's servers include support. 'geek' is an OpenNIC TLD. See
http://www.opennic.unrated.net for details about adding OpenNIC
support to your computer, or ask your provider to add support to
their name servers.

Re: PINE

[David Purton]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, dude wrote:

> 
> I know PINE is not what debian users use,
> but i recently convinced my girlfriend to
> let me install debian on her windows computer.
> Her only gripe with using it is
> that there are no debs of Pine.
> 
> She has tried building it from source
> downloaded from washington.edu
> but to no avail.
> 
> Are there any debian-ized sources around
> 
> or even debs being help somewhere?
> 

there used to be sources with diffs to build debian packages in potato -
which is what I'm still using (version 4.21).

If you wanted - I could send you the three debs (pico, pilot and
pine) or the source and debian diff file (along with the supplied debian
README on how to build the debs)

cheers

dc



Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars 
on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them
as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order
to rush down again.  In a way this is funny,...

Francis A Schaeffer

David Purton

http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/
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dselect is a liar

[bmcintyre]

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 12:38:56AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:19:49PM +1000, Bruce McIntyre wrote:
> > when i fire up dselect, it tells me that fetchmail version 5.8.11-1 is 
> > availible.
> > when i check the same on the website it states that version 5.8.12.1 is 
> > current
> > 
> > my problem is that fetchmailconf 5.8.12-1 depends on the latter version, 
> > which dselect doesn't know about.
> > 
> > the pertinent section in /etc/apt/sources.list reads:
> > 
> > deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> > deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib 
> > non-free
> > 
> > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib 
> > non-free
> > 
> > is this wrong ?
> > 
> 
> still having the same problem but:
> 
>   dselect available   website packages search
>   says :  says :
> fetchmail 5.8-14-15.8.14-2
> fetchmailconf 5.8.14-25.8.14-2
> fetchmail-ssl 5.8.11-15.8.14-2
> 
> this still mucks up the dependencies for fetchmail and fetchmailconf.
> there is a similar issue with xmame and xmame-x, the versions are different,
> and so the dependencies cannot be fufilled.
> 
> Any help would be much appreciated.

I don't mean to flood the list here---but I thought the subject header was not 
so
very clear. 
I am wondering if this problem is linked to the archives not present problem 
some
people are having. 

Bruce McIntyre.

wierd xmms question

[Mike Pfleger]

Hello.

This is kind of an odd one, but does anybody here listen to www.3po3.com
using xmms?  I could swear that I used to get music track info scrolling
in the text display.  I have a bunch of track titles and artist names
jotted down on my notepad, and I can't imagine how else I got them.

So... here's the big question:
Is this something in the xmms settings that I've managed to botch?  Or
has 3po3 just stopped streaming this kind of data with their audio?  Is
this something that is normally done with streaming mp3?

TIA,
Mike

apache 1.3.9/stable

[Jens Gecius]

Hi folks,

does anybody have a clue regarding user-authorization in
apache-stable? I'm trying pretty hard to get it to work on my box, but
it just doesn't work. Not with access.conf entries nor with .htaccess
files.

the appropriate section does look like this (same in htaccess or
access.conf):

AuthName "Bilderalbum"
AuthType Basic
AuthUserFile /etc/apache/htpasswd
require valid-user

Of course, the entries in htpasswd are generated using htpasswd.

Unfortunately, the errorlog just tries to tell me that user xxx (which
is definetly in the file) is unknown.

Any ideas?

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Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato

[Mark Wagnon]

On 07/18/01 01:00:19 +, Robin Gerard wrote:
>  
>  Have a look at the attached mail that I send you.
>  HTH  

That was really nice. I've saved that message for future reference. It
worked like a charm and I'm in business and my system is safer for it
too.

Thanks!

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Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato

[Mark Wagnon]

On 07/17/01 13:55:01 -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> excerpted from usermod(8):



Yeah I read that. That was before I realized I could take a look at
the /etc/group file to see what groups I belonged to (and I'm sure
there's a more refined method for that too ;^) ), so I wasn't really
sure what groups I was a member of, and omitting one by mistake didn't
sound too appealing.

Thanks!
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apt-move config problem

[Paul Mackinney]

Anyone have more insight on this? Here's a question I asked Joost & his
reply:

> I've installed apt-move, and I've got my mirrors directory set up. Each
> time I run apt or deselect I decline to let it remove downloaded files
> and apt-move update.
> 
> So far so good, but when I apt-get update it doesn't use the mirror. 
> The first lines of an update look like this:
> 
> Ign file: woody/contrib Release
> Ign file: woody/main Release
> Ign file: woody/non-free Release
> Ign file: woody/non-US/main Release
> Ign file: woody/non-US/non-free Release
> 
> I'm sure my sources.list file is messed up. Can you tell me how to fix
> it?

You probably need to create a Release file, but I don't know the name of
the script that can do this.  It may be called apt-ftparchive, in the
apt-utils package. The Release file appears to be an apt thing.  If you
check the debian archive site manually with a webbrowser, you can see
what these files look like from the inside.  It lists the Packages files
and a checksum for their content.  There is in turn also a signature
for the Release file, but I don't thinks that is used by default.

I found some more info for you:
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd-0104/msg00080.html
  
> Here's a glimpse of my /mirrors dir:
> 
> $ ls /mirrors/debian/dists/woody/
> contrib  main  non-US  non-free
> 
> And here's my sources.list file:
>
> # My attempt to get apt-move mirror to work...
> deb file:///mirrors/debian woody contrib main non-free
> deb file:///mirrors/debian woody/non-US main non-free

Looks okay.

Cheers,


Joost

PINE

[dude]

I know PINE is not what debian users use,
but i recently convinced my girlfriend to
let me install debian on her windows computer.
Her only gripe with using it is
that there are no debs of Pine.

She has tried building it from source
downloaded from washington.edu
but to no avail.

Are there any debian-ized sources around

or even debs being help somewhere?

Thanks

Re: Starting with postgreSQL and pgaccess

[Eric G. Miller]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 04:30:57PM +, Victor wrote:
> Connection to database failed ConnectDB().Connection refused: Is
> the postmaster running (with -i) at localhost and accepting
> connections on TCP/IP port 5432?

Probably postgresql is not listening for tcp/ip connections.  If I
remember correctly, pgaccess can use the unix sockets connect if you
don't specify the host/port connection parameters (and probably not
user/passwd either).  Otherwise, you have to enable tcp/ip in
postgresql.conf (or postgresql.init or something, it varies).

> I've checked in /etc/services for port 5432 and it is there for postgres.

That file only lists the services and associated ports.  It doesn't mean
anything is actually providing those services.

-- 
Eric G. Miller 

Re: How can I trace a segfault on program start?

[Eric G. Miller]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 05:02:52PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> "Eric G. Miller" wrote:
>   >On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 11:04:52AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
>   >> I have compiled a program with gcc 2.95.  It segfaults immediately on 
> star
>   >ting
>   >> and neither gdb nor strace reveal any useful information:
>   >> 
>   >> 
>   >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:.../src$ people
>   >> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>   >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:.../src$ gdb people
>   >> GNU gdb 2001-07-05-cvs (MI_OUT)
>   >> ...
>   >> (gdb) run
>   >> Starting program: /usr1/proj/bray/gtk/people_glade/src/people 
>   >> 
>   >> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
>   >> 0x0001 in ?? ()
>   >> (gdb) bt
>   >> #0  0x0001 in ?? ()
>   >> Cannot access memory at address 0x0
>   >  
>   > Obviously an error.
>  
> 
> Obviously!  But what is causing it?  This happens while the program is
> loading, before any of my own code is executed.

Looks like an attempt to dereference a NULL pointer, but I can't tell
for sure.  Sure your not passing a NULL pointer to a function early on
that actually expects allocated memory already?  I'd say post the code,
if you can, but this probably isn't the best forum...

The suggestion of putting in a breakpoint at the beginning and stepping
through might help.  If the problem is actually in a library, you
probably can't get any good information unless you make sure it's
compiled with -g and is not stripped.  Using -Wall can sometimes warn
about certain errors (like uninitialized pointers)...

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Re: "man" command made easy? ->vim

[florentin ionescu]

"Actually, I'm not 100% sure that vim supports backreferences
like that (the \1 in the replacement text). I know that Python's and
Perl's regex engines do. I think I've heard/read that vim does do
backreferences."

Vim does support backreferences, "h: regex" will give more details.There was 
a recent talk on 
e-mail-list(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim/message/19141)

about the small diferences between perl regex and vim regex.



From: D-Man To: debian-user@lists.debian.org CC: Dave Sherohman Subject: 
Re: "man" command made easy? Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 23:02:31 -0400


On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 03:41:01PM -0700, Paul Mackinney wrote: | D-Man 
uttered: | > | > [I haven't been following most of this thread, but] | > | 
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 10:59:23AM -0700, Paul Mackinney wrote: | > | 
Night before last I ran 'find /usr/doc -name "index.html" >foo.txt' and | > 
| then spent 2 hours adding links from foo.txt to my local home/start | > | 
> 2 hours!? Wow. Learn vi(m) or some other advanced editor. If you | > 
have that foo.txt with each filename on its own line the following | > will 
take very little time to create a web page of links out of it. | | Vim is 
indeed my editor of choice. The 2 hours was mostly because I got | 
distracted reading & checking out the stuff I found. But my edits


Oh, ok. That's better. Two hours reading docs, not two hours creating HTML 
links.


(BTW, thanks guys for those other generation techniques)

| weren't nearly as slick as what you suggest. | | Thanks to a conversation 
at a BAD (Bay Area Debian) meeting last week, I | was clued in to visual 
mode. Here's what I did: | 1. At the first line, type 'v' to enter visual 
mode. | 2. Scroll to the last line, type ':' | 3. Vim starts the command 
text for you. Append | s/^/ DESCR <\/a>/g | | This turned a line like | 
/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/index.html | | into | DESCR


Yes, visual mode is great when you want to operate on a subset of the 
buffer. The '%' at the beginning of my command means use the whole buffer.


| But your technique for capturing the original line & using it for the | 
link description is very cool & will save me much effort for my updates.


Thanks. Actually, I'm not 100% sure that vim supports backreferences like 
that (the \1 in the replacement text). I know that Python's and Perl's 
regex engines do. I think I've heard/read that vim does do backreferences.


BTW, I probably spent more time making my sample commands a little shorter 
than you spent with your slightly simpler version. Also, the simpler the 
command is the more likely it is correct ;-).


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Hi,

I spent few hours trying to install Evolution. I try all the
ways know, dselect, apt-get, wget *.deb and then dpkg -i ...

This is what I get always:

Unpacking libgal-data (from libgal-data_0.8-6_all.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing libgal-data_0.8-6_all.deb (--install):
 trying to overwrite directory `/usr/share/locale/az' in package 
libgnomeprint-data with nondirectory


Unpacking evolution (from evolution_0.10-2_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing evolution_0.10-2_i386.deb (--install):
 trying to overwrite directory `/usr/share/locale/az' in package 
libgnomeprint-data with nondirectory


If I create the directory /usr/share/locale/az I get a similar
error, but this time for /usr/share/locale/az/LC_MESSAGES and if
I create this one as well the first message come back.

I run woody on 2.2.19 kernel on a pentium II PC.
I would appreciate any help. Please cc me since I am not
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Re: [OT] beware citibank!

[Noah Meyerhans]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 02:08:44PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> Unfortunately, I was unable to get their site to cooperate with me
> using any of Mozilla, Netscape 4.77, or Konqueror. Their site is so
> javascript-heavy (and broken) that I could only get it to work with
> IE/Win32. Unacceptable.

I have been using Citibank's online credit card tools for about a year
in Mozilla and NS4 under Linux with no mostly no troubles.  There was a
period when one of the server names involved would not resolve to an IP
address at all under Linux, but would resolve just fine under windows.
That didn't seem to be a browser problem, but rather a libc problem, I
suppose, as tools like host and nslookup failed as well.  I have no idea
how they managed that, but I duplicated the behavior consistantly on
several different machines.

Other than that problem, their online credit card account management
tools has worked very well for me.  I think I've tried it in Konqueror,
but it wasn't recently and I don't recall the level of success I had
with it.

noah

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Re: hard drives

[Mike Fedyk]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 04:14:48PM -0700, allen wayne best just ramblin in his 
amx wrote:
> > > 'bout the only thing i can say about which ide controller is used is that
> > >  it is built into the motherboard in a hp vectra vl.
> > >
> > > and the driver version is one thing i did notice: redhat 7.1 has an ide
> > > driver version 1.10 whereas debian with 2.2.12 has an ide driver version
> > > of 1.08. i am inclinded to believe the difference lies there.
> >
> > Run /sbin/lspci and paste the output here.
> >
> > Maybe it'll help someone reading the archives...
> >
> > Mike
> 
> i could not find lspci under debian, but here is the output from the redhat 
> version of lspci
> 
> pengwyn:disk# /RedHat7.1/sbin/lspci
> 00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:1237 (rev 02)
> 00:04.0 Class 0601: 8086:7000 (rev 01)
> 00:04.1 Class 0101: 8086:7010
> 00:07.0 Class 0200: 1022:2000 (rev 25)
> 00:0a.0 Class 0300: 102b:051b
> 

In debian:
apt-get install pciutils
su
/sbin/lspci > /tmp/pcilisting
/sbin/lspci -v >> /tmp/pcilisting

Send the _contents_ of /tmp/pcilisting, don't attach.

That is really terrible output from redhat's lspci.  Does it have an
option to display names?

Mike

Re: perl question

[Joost Kooij]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 04:53:50PM -0400, Mike Egglestone wrote:
> What would be a nice command to remove a dirtory that had files in it?
> Even better what would be a nice command to delete all files
> in one directory... (leaving the directory intact)

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use File::Path;
rmtree("some/dir", 0, 1);

=pod
man File::Path
=cut

Cheers,


Joost

gnucash 1.6.1-2

[William S.]

I used apt-get install to get the latest unstable
version of gnucash. When I try to run it I get:

gnucash: error while loading shared libraries:
libqthreads.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory

I am using kernel 2.4.5 with the latest unstable
packages. I currently have libguile9, libc5 and libc6
installed and all the other packages apt-get deemed
necessary.

How do I get this to run?

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Re: seting up a gateway

[D-Man]

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 09:39:54AM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote:
| On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 04:15:06PM -0400, D-Man wrote:
| > I know you will need iptables for a 2.4 kernel (haven't been there
| > yet).  For 2.2 kernels it is as simple as "apt-get install ipmasq"
| > (which will install ipchains which does the "real" work) and then tell
| > the others on the LAN to use your IP as the default gateway.
| 
| Do you need to specifically install ipchains? I've been led to
| believe otherwise. Or does this set up your basic ipchains rules?

The 'ipmasq' package depens on 'ipchains' so if you apt-get install it
apt will tell you that it will install ipchains also.  This is the
beauty of apt's dependcy resolution.

-D

Re: How to write a man page?

[Aaron Hall]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Colin Watson wrote:

> 

I've had success writing man pages in POD, Perl's psuedo-documentation
language. Even if you aren't familiar with Perl, POD may be easier to
deal with with troff. Perl includes a program called pod2man which will
convert the POD to troff for you. On top of that, I wrote a little
script that does the conversion, renames everything properly (man's
a stickler for having everything properly named), and sticks the finished
pages into the appropriate directory.

If you're interested, I can send you the source to a manpage I created
with POD and you can look it over if you like.

> Also have a look at /usr/share/doc/man-db/examples/manpage.example for
> the basic structure.

Whether you use POD or troff, have a look at the pod2man(1) man page,
it has a lengthy section about how to write a good manpage, which
applies to manpages in general. The Perl 5.6 pod2man page is better than
the 5.005 version (which comes with stable), one place to find it is:

http://www.osxfaq.com/man/1/pod2man.html

(P.S. it's weird, but perldoc.com has the 5.003 manpage, which isn't
nearly as good.)

Good luck,
Aaron

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Re: Setting up printing

[Dave Sherohman]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:13:57PM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
> Brian, what's been said about CUPS is true, and that's what I use.

I guess you haven't heard all that's been said about CUPS...

> In any case, any system you use is going to need a recent Ghostscript
> with support for your printer linked in
...
> You'll want the cupsomatic package, which is in Debian testing now.  I
> notice there's a ppd for the stp driver and for the stc740ih.upp
> driver.

I use CUPS with a Stylus Color 880 and the stock stcolor.ppd from the
cupsys package.  No ghostscript.  No cupsomatic.  It just works.

You'll need something more than the vanilla stcolor.ppd to get access
to >720 dpi or any special features of your particular model, but,
for the vast majority of users, it should be sufficient.

Re: 2 Monitors/1 MG400/X 3.3.6

[Miguel Griffa]

At 04:08 p.m. 17/07/01 -0500, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:

I sent an email out yesterday about setting up 2 monitors on my
Matrox Millennium G400 card. The response I received seems to
assume that I'm running X 4.x. I'm not, I'm using Potato and don't
want to dabble with woody if I don't have to. Can someone give me
a lead or hint on what I need to do with a X 3.3.6 system to setup
dual monitor support?


AFAIK it can be done on X3.3, butis far easier in X4.
for what I've heard, try installing X4 (no need to upgrade to woody for 
that, there are sources.list  for potato).

Not much but might help.

Re: How can I trace a segfault on program start?

[Philippe Troin]

"Oliver Elphick"  writes:

> I have compiled a program with gcc 2.95.  It segfaults immediately on starting
> and neither gdb nor strace reveal any useful information:
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:.../src$ people
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:.../src$ gdb people
> GNU gdb 2001-07-05-cvs (MI_OUT)
> ...
> (gdb) run
> Starting program: /usr1/proj/bray/gtk/people_glade/src/people 
> 
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 0x0001 in ?? ()
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x0001 in ?? ()
> Cannot access memory at address 0x0
> (gdb) q
> The program is running.  Exit anyway? (y or n) y
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:.../src$ strace people
> execve("./people", ["people"], [/* 49 vars */]) = 0
> --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
> +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

It could be that the stack pointers and/or frame pointers have been
corrupted.

You might want to break at '_start' which is the first function called
by the loader, and then step through the assembler from there.

Phil.

Re: zip drive?

[Leonard Stiles]

Frank Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Leonard Stiles wrote:
> 
> > Frank Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >>I realized some problemes with "auto" and vfat, namely long
> >>filenames. When I tried the auto/detection it always showed 8.3
> >>filnames.
> >>
> > What is the output of "mount" when this happens?  Have you got
> > vfat support compiled into your kernel, or is it a module?  What
> > about fat and msdos?
> 
> WEll to be honest, that was during my pre-Debian time with a standard
> Suse-Kernel (Suse 6.2/7.0).

When mount tries to mount a partition marked "auto" it first tries to
guess the file-system type by looking at the superblock, or if this
doesn't work (AFAIK in the case of FAT file-systems) it tries one
file-system after another until one works.

It gets the list of available file-systems by looking at
/etc/filesystems, or /proc/filesystems if the first doesn't exist.  It
may be that whichever file was used in your case listed msdos before
vfat (or only msdos).  If so, mount will try msdos first, which will
work for vfat file-systems, albeit only providing 8.3 filename support.

The fix is to make sure vfat appears before msdos in /etc/filesystems.

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JDK in unstable?

[Hank Marquardt]

I could have sworn this was just on the list -- but I couldn't find
it in the archive ... mea culpa for not saving it.

Can the java SDK (1.3.1) be installed in unstable? ... I downloaded
the official sun linux binary ... unpacked it, updated alterntives and
and exported the class paths ... all I get are complaints about libs
missing (libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 missing)

To be fair there are all kinds of warnings and gotchas about lib versioning
but there must be some way to make this work?  right?

TIA

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Re: VCD program under Gnome/X11?

[Cameron Matheson]

Hey,

check out xine (xine.sourceforge.net). If you're using unstable or
testing, i *think* that their is already a debian package

Cameron Matheson


On 17 Jul 2001 10:53:36 -0400, Chun Kit Edwin Lau wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
>   Just wondering if there is any software under Gnome or X11 that play 
> VCD?  I try xanim, it gives me some error saying unsupport format.  I am 
> using unstable right now.
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Re: But ....

[Pietro Cagnoni]

> On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 09:23:53AM +0200, Pietro Cagnoni wrote:
> | 2) reboot in maintenance mode (or whatever is called in english: in
> | italian is "Modalità provvisoria": 640x480 screen with very few colors);
> 
> FYI it is called "Safe Mode" in English.  You may need to press F5
> during startup to get the menu to select Safe Mode from.

safe? does it mean you can't make any damage that way? or maybe it
inhibits the computer self destruction, and it'safer for you to use? or
is it the mode you need when you're closed in a safe?

"Modalita' provvisoria" in italian could be translated "temporary mode",
and has some of the meanings of "unstable mode".

so, where's the "stable mode"?

maybe i should open a call with tech support...

pietro.

Re: How to set up a "prefect" router

[Wayne Topa]

Subject: Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
Date: Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 12:16:30AM +0200

In reply to:Raffaele Sandrini

Quoting Raffaele Sandrini([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Tuesday 17 July 2001 20:02, Michael B. Taylor wrote:
> > I assume you want to set it up and have it just work, for an indefinite
> > period.  I also assume that if it breaks, *you* have to fix it :).
> > In that case, consider not using the harddrive.  Along with the
> > power supply and fans, it is the least reliable component in the system,
> > and well past its prime.
> >
> > I think some kind of 1 floppy linux, as you mentioned, might work fine for
> > you.  Other possibilities are floppy based tftp (aka diskless) boot and
> > (if you have access to a burner) eprom based tftp boot.
> >
> > Mik
> 
> Is there a one floppy linux you can recommend. I must have ppp included? Do i 
> have to make one by myself. If yes - how? Wich kernel whould be the best 2.2? 
> 2.4? I heared that 2.4 doesn't work very well with old computers.

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Re: hard drives

[allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx]

On Tuesday 17 July 2001 16:14, allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx wrote:
> > > 'bout the only thing i can say about which ide controller is used is
> > > that it is built into the motherboard in a hp vectra vl.
> > >
> > > and the driver version is one thing i did notice: redhat 7.1 has an ide
> > > driver version 1.10 whereas debian with 2.2.12 has an ide driver
> > > version of 1.08. i am inclinded to believe the difference lies there.
> >
> > Run /sbin/lspci and paste the output here.
> >
> > Maybe it'll help someone reading the archives...
> >
> > Mike
>
> i could not find lspci under debian, but here is the output from the redhat
> version of lspci
>
> pengwyn:disk# /RedHat7.1/sbin/lspci
> 00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:1237 (rev 02)
> 00:04.0 Class 0601: 8086:7000 (rev 01)
> 00:04.1 Class 0101: 8086:7010
> 00:07.0 Class 0200: 1022:2000 (rev 25)
> 00:0a.0 Class 0300: 102b:051b

to follow up, i found scanpci on the debian partition with the following 
results:
PCI says configuration type 1

PCI probing configuration type 1

Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:

pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x00 function 0x: vendor 0x8086 device 0x1237
 Intel  Device unknown
 CardVendor 0x card 0x
  STATUS0x2280  COMMAND 0x0006
  CLASS 0x06 0x00 0x00  REVISION 0x02
  HEADER0x00  LATENCY 0x20

pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x04 function 0x: vendor 0x8086 device 0x7000
 Intel 82371 pci-isa bridge
 CardVendor 0x card 0x
  STATUS0x0280  COMMAND 0x000f
  CLASS 0x06 0x01 0x00  REVISION 0x01
  HEADER0x80  LATENCY 0x00

pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x04 function 0x0001: vendor 0x8086 device 0x7010
 Intel 82371 bus-master IDE controller
 CardVendor 0x card 0x
  STATUS0x0280  COMMAND 0x0005
  CLASS 0x01 0x01 0x80  REVISION 0x00
  BIST  0x00  HEADER 0x00  LATENCY 0x20  CACHE 0x00
  BASE4 0x0501  addr 0x0500  I/O
  BYTE_00x77  BYTE_1  0xe3  BYTE_2  0x27  BYTE_3  0xe1

pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x07 function 0x: vendor 0x1022 device 0x2000
 AMD 79C970 Lance
 CardVendor 0x103c card 0x1064
  STATUS0x0280  COMMAND 0x0147
  CLASS 0x02 0x00 0x00  REVISION 0x25
  BIST  0x00  HEADER 0x00  LATENCY 0x40  CACHE 0x00
  BASE0 0xfce1  addr 0xfce0  I/O
  BASE1 0xfedfbc00  addr 0xfedfbc00  MEM
  MAX_LAT   0xff  MIN_GNT 0x06  INT_PIN 0x01  INT_LINE 0x0b

pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x0a function 0x: vendor 0x102b device 0x051b
 Matrox MGA Millennium II
 CardVendor 0x102b card 0x2100
  STATUS0x0280  COMMAND 0x0007
  CLASS 0x03 0x00 0x00  REVISION 0x00
  BIST  0x00  HEADER 0x00  LATENCY 0x40  CACHE 0x00
  BASE0 0xfd08  addr 0xfd00  MEM
  BASE1 0xfedfc000  addr 0xfedfc000  MEM
  BASE2 0xfe00  addr 0xfe00  MEM
  MAX_LAT   0x00  MIN_GNT 0x00  INT_PIN 0x01  INT_LINE 0x09
  BYTE_00x00  BYTE_1  0x01  BYTE_2  0x2c  BYTE_3  0x5f 

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Re: NFS alternative

[Mike Fedyk]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 03:47:30AM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Note wrote:
> 
> > Thankfully, I forget the details[0]. From experience, no, it won't be 
> > exactly hosed: you'll end up with a .nfs004950384672385721380937 file that 
> > will grow and eventually fill up the partition... nothing an rm -rf / won't 
> > fix. And then there's negative cookies and stale mounts that require a 
> > reboot
> > on most unices I've seen... you had to remind me, didn't you?
> 
> 
> 
> from my own limited experience, stale mounts are not a problem if you 
> can unmount then mount again the partition containing the "damaged" 
> export. Note that mount -o remount doesnt do the trick, but umount then 
> mount does it. That's why i keep nfs mounts on separate partition.
> (i have 4 X kernel-over-ftfp and root-over-nfs boxen that users can 
> start and restart at will without proper shutdown, and a reboot each 
> time a stale mount occured started to get on my nerves.)
> 

Do you get stale mounts on the root fs?  If not, you could use autofs
to mount the other nfs partitions as needed, and avoid stale mounts if
files aren't kept open 24/7.

Just an idea...

Re: apt-get package list problem

[Joost Kooij]

Thanks, Josip.

- Forwarded message from Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

> - Forwarded message from Frank Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> 
> From: Frank Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: apt-get package list problem
> 
> Sebastiaan wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > It should be:
> > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stable/updates main contrib

The web page says

deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free

And it works.

> > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main contrib

No, this is wrong, just because the non-US archive happens to be on the same
site as the security updates, it shouldn't be referenced that way.

Something like this should be used:

deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main non-free

> I see. Bu tthat is not obvious from the instruction on this site 
> http://www.debian.org/security/
> 
> So beeing new to debian I just thought follow the instructions on 
> the Debian-site.

Well I honestly don't see what went wrong, all of the sources.list lines on
www.d.o have been checked and double-checked, you can be sure of that. :)

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Re: seting up a gateway

[Sam Varghese]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 04:15:06PM -0400, D-Man wrote:
> I know you will need iptables for a 2.4 kernel (haven't been there
> yet).  For 2.2 kernels it is as simple as "apt-get install ipmasq"
> (which will install ipchains which does the "real" work) and then tell
> the others on the LAN to use your IP as the default gateway.

Do you need to specifically install ipchains? I've been led to
believe otherwise. Or does this set up your basic ipchains rules?

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Safe mode (was: Re: But ....)

[Guy Geens]

> "Joost" == Joost Kooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Joost> Perhaps it uses the standard bios interfaces only when in "safe
Joost> mode". IIRC the standard vga bios interface is limited to a
Joost> 640x480 resolution.

Standard VGA resolution, minimal device drivers loaded, no networking,
no sound, ...

Basically, the closest thing to `linux 1' you can get on a Windows
system.

It's only there so you can repair driver/IRQ settings and then reboot.
(Or when there's a problem booting the system - in that case, simply
reboot and hope it won't happen again :)

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Re: How to get an Iomega 100MB USB Zip Drive to work with Debian?

[Guy Geens]

> "Joern" == Joern Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Joern> I am new to Linux, and have just installed Debian/GNU Linux on
Joern> a Dell Dimension XPS R400. The only problem I am facing, is -
Joern> how to get an Iomega 100MB USB zip drive to work with Debian
Joern> 2.2r3? I have installed the module for USB-storage, but have no
Joern> clue how to go from there.

Make sure your kernel has support for SCSI disks.

You will also need the `hotplug' package.

Once you have that installed, plug the ZIP drive into the USB port.
You can access the disk as /dev/sda . Standard ZIP disks use partition
4, so you should be able to do

mount /dev/sda4 /mnt

Don't forget to umount the disk before removing it or the drive.

Joern> Also - how do I get my computer to accept Mac-files? (I forgot
Joern> to install the module for Macintosh files.)

For Mac text files, you have to convert end of line characters. E.g.,
tr '\r' '\n' unix-file.txt

Other files should be copied as-is.

If you want to mount Mac-formatted ZIP disks, you need a few options
in the kernel. HFS file system, and probably Macintosh partition
support.

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Re: How to set up a "prefect" router

[Michael B. Taylor]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 06:33:49PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have an old 486 DX33Mhz PC. I'd like to set it up as a router. It has a 
> Ethernetcard,  250MB HDD and no CDROM.
> What is importatnt to look at? Should i use a 1 floppy Linux? If yes wichone? 
> Should i use debian? Is it important to use kern2.4? Other usful tipps?
> 
> 
I assume you want to set it up and have it just work, for an indefinite 
period.  I also assume that if it breaks, *you* have to fix it :).
In that case, consider not using the harddrive.  Along with the
power supply and fans, it is the least reliable component in the system, 
and well past its prime.  

I think some kind of 1 floppy linux, as you mentioned, might work fine for 
you.  Other possibilities are floppy based tftp (aka diskless) boot and
(if you have access to a burner) eprom based tftp boot.

Mike

Re: hard drives

[Mike Fedyk]

On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 01:39:03PM -0700, allen wayne best just ramblin in his 
amx wrote:
> initially, i had the setup as 
> disk
> disk
> cd-rom
> disk
> 
> with all jumpers (master/slave) appropriatly set.
> and as previously noted, redhat 7.1 (2.4.2) saw the configuration, 
> debian (2.2.12) did not.
> 
> do to double check jumpers, and just out of curiosity, i switched hdc and hdd.
> now both linux's see all four drives. (which still begs the question why 
> debian did not before but that is just a side issue now. it works.
> 
> thanks to martin for his kind help.

As a test case case, you could try the debian 2.2.12 kernel in redhat.
You'd probably get the same problems in redhat with the same kernel.

What is your ide controller, I'll bet it's a driver issue.

Mike

Re: How to set up a "prefect" router

[Joost Kooij]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 06:33:49PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> I have an old 486 DX33Mhz PC. I'd like to set it up as a router. It has a 
> Ethernetcard,  250MB HDD and no CDROM.
> What is importatnt to look at? Should i use a 1 floppy Linux? If yes wichone? 
> Should i use debian? Is it important to use kern2.4? Other usful tipps?

My 386sx20 works fine here, running almost current distribution.  It has
16Mbyte ram, 120 Mbyte disk of which 32Mbyte is swap, a crummy old
ne2000 clone, a modem and an isdn card.  It is mostly used as a mail
gateway and also as a fallback for another router with a cablemodem.

Upgrading it is a little tricky, because there is not enough space to hold
all the packages, so I have to use nfs for that.  It is disabled in normal
init runlevel, but enabled in level 3 and up.  So when I want to upgrade,
I disable outward connections and enable nfs by making init switch to
runlevel 3.  After upgrade, the machine is set to runlevel 2 again.

To win more space for the mail spool, I also do rm -rf /usr/share/doc/*/*
after upgrades.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/joost
--> [515] $ cat /proc/cpuinfo 
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : unknown
cpu family  : 3
model   : 0
model name  : unknown
stepping: unknown
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
sep_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : no
fpu_exception   : no
cpuid level : -1
wp  : no
flags   :
bogomips: 3.28

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/joost
--> [516] $ uptime
  7:25pm  up 173 days,  1:01,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

173 days since the machine was moved into a another closet.

Cheers,


Joost

Re: zip drive?

[csj]

On Tuesday 17 July 2001 18:32, Frank Zimmermann wrote:
> Leonard Stiles wrote:
> > Note that you can alternatively specify "auto" as the file-system
> > type, in which case it will be auto-detected by mount.
>
> I realized some problemes with "auto" and vfat, namely long
> filenames. When I tried the auto/detection it always showed 8.3
> filnames. Well, most times I use vfat foramttd ZIPs and the few
> times I use something else I use
> mount -t hfs /dev/hdd /zip
> (why don't I need a partition number in this case?)

alpha:~$ more /etc/filesystems 
ext2
vfat
msdos
hfs

Reporting dependecy problems

[Andreas Fromm]

Hi,

I'm using testing on my desktop and often have had dependency problems while 
installing new packages. The Problems usualy had where of the kind that the 
required version of a package on which my package depend on wasn't available in 
testing, so I had to manualy download the unstable version and install it. 

My question is, shall I report that kind of problems, and where.

Pleas cc me any answers.

Andreas
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Re: Adding a user to a group

[Dave Sherohman]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 08:21:32AM -1000, Joseph Dane wrote:
> > "Dave" == Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  Dave> 1) Yes, there is a reason.  Do a search on "reply-to considered
>  Dave> harmful" for more information.
> 
> do a search for 'reply-to munging considered useful', for what I feel
> is a much more convincing argument.

Seen it, and I still fall to the 'harmful' side for the simple reason
that reply-to makes mistakes more potentially problematic.  If you
forget to include the list when you intended to, it's no big deal -
just resend.  If you send a reply to the list that's intended to be
private, there are plenty of cases where it could be somewhat
embarrassing and a few where it could be outright Bad.

> really.  I'm on about the same number, and the split is more like
> 40/60 for me, in favor of not setting reply-to.

Well, that's still not "most" lists using it, which was the point I
disputed anyhow...

> also, most of the
> lists I admin set reply-to, at the request of the people on the
> lists.

I host a dozen lists, all but one of which are extremely-low-volume,
and have never had anyone ask about reply-to on any of them.  But
that just proves that not all users like/want the same thing.

> in the end, the 'right' policy is the one chosen by the list admins,
> since they have the right to set whatever policy they want.  but this
> does seem like an issue that just won't go away, ever.

Agreed on both points.  _Maybe_ it would go away if all common MUAs
were to implement a reply-to-list feature, but even then, I doubt it.

seting up a gateway

[Hereward Cooper]

Hi,
Is there a gateway HOWTO? I found something along that lines but none 
of it 
applied to a debian system.
Also what do i need a 2.4.6 kernel for it to work, am i right in 
thinking 
that it is different from 2.2.x?

Thanks in advance,

Hereward

Re: How to set up a "prefect" router

[Raffaele Sandrini]

On Tuesday 17 July 2001 20:02, Michael B. Taylor wrote:
> I assume you want to set it up and have it just work, for an indefinite
> period.  I also assume that if it breaks, *you* have to fix it :).
> In that case, consider not using the harddrive.  Along with the
> power supply and fans, it is the least reliable component in the system,
> and well past its prime.
>
> I think some kind of 1 floppy linux, as you mentioned, might work fine for
> you.  Other possibilities are floppy based tftp (aka diskless) boot and
> (if you have access to a burner) eprom based tftp boot.
>
> Mik

Is there a one floppy linux you can recommend. I must have ppp included? Do i 
have to make one by myself. If yes - how? Wich kernel whould be the best 2.2? 
2.4? I heared that 2.4 doesn't work very well with old computers.

cheers,
Raffaele
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Re: hard drives

[allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx]

> > 'bout the only thing i can say about which ide controller is used is that
> >  it is built into the motherboard in a hp vectra vl.
> >
> > and the driver version is one thing i did notice: redhat 7.1 has an ide
> > driver version 1.10 whereas debian with 2.2.12 has an ide driver version
> > of 1.08. i am inclinded to believe the difference lies there.
>
> Run /sbin/lspci and paste the output here.
>
> Maybe it'll help someone reading the archives...
>
> Mike

i could not find lspci under debian, but here is the output from the redhat 
version of lspci

pengwyn:disk# /RedHat7.1/sbin/lspci
00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:1237 (rev 02)
00:04.0 Class 0601: 8086:7000 (rev 01)
00:04.1 Class 0101: 8086:7010
00:07.0 Class 0200: 1022:2000 (rev 25)
00:0a.0 Class 0300: 102b:051b

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Re: VPN for linux?

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya...

for windoze side... use pptp ?? 

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/VPN

c ya
alvin


On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Jean-Baptiste Note wrote:

> I'm just experimenting with VPN here, and it's a lot of fun...
> 
> There's nothing as simple as using stunnel.
> 
> basically on the server side you have stunnel ready to accept
> incoming tcp connections and ready to launch ppp over the created pty.
> you have to configure ppp properly (chap mecanism fo instance) so that
> each connecting client gets his own ip.
> 
> on the client side, the problem is to set up authentification and  the 
> routes, you'll have to think about that depending on the kind of service 
> you want (access to only one host or a whole subnet ?)
> 
> note though that stunnel is really fine for linux2linux configs, using 
> stunnel at both ends, I dont know how it works with win tools.
> (actually my config involves 2 masqueraded private class C subnetworks
> and only the linux masquerading routers are "aware" of the trick -- note 
> too that you dont need masquerading on the vpn)
> 
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Re: Exim as a LAN mail server [possibly-OT]

[Carel Fellinger]

On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 12:01:18PM +0100, Nikki Locke wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Carel Fellinger 
> wrote:
...
> > Only if the destination machine is on the net too in those few 
> moments
> > that you are. Imagion that you are to send mail to my mail server
> > directly, then it's quit likely that, though I'm on the net for
> > atleast 12 hours a day, you still miss me because my daytime differs
> > from yours, living on the other side of the world and all that.  Were
> > you to use your ISP's mail server, changes would go up remarkably,
> > just because that machine is on the net during your nighttime / my
> > daytime.  Best would be if we both used our ISP's servers, then the
> > mail would get delivered instantaniously, so less resources used.
> 
> I think this is misleading. 

What it the above is misleading? The less resources used bit? Maybe.
But the rest is just to the point.
 
> SMTP mailers, when sending mail "direct", first look up the 
> destination's MX record in the DNS. The MX record will normally (I mean 
> "always, unless the destination's configuration is screwed") point to 
> an SMTP server which is permanently (I mean "barring breakdowns") 
> connected to the net. 

Here is were you err:)  We were discussing a set up were our own
machine, connected to the internet during daytime, and even then
intermittendly, was advertised to others to use to deliver mail to us.
That's why we mentioned dynamic dns services like provided by dyndns.
And I explained that such a setup, though technical feasable, is
better avoided, as it's bound to cause delivery problems.
 
> If the destination machine does not have a permanent connection, the MX 
> address usually points to the SMTP server of an ISP. That server will 

Not in the case under discussion, though...

> then either store the mail in a POP/IMAP/whatever server, or forward 
> the mail via SMTP/UUCP/whatever to the ultimate destination when it 
> next connects.

...this *is* what I suggested as being better.
 
-- 
groetjes, carel

Re: VPN for linux?

[Jean-Baptiste Note]

I'm just experimenting with VPN here, and it's a lot of fun...

There's nothing as simple as using stunnel.

basically on the server side you have stunnel ready to accept
incoming tcp connections and ready to launch ppp over the created pty.
you have to configure ppp properly (chap mecanism fo instance) so that
each connecting client gets his own ip.

on the client side, the problem is to set up authentification and  the 
routes, you'll have to think about that depending on the kind of service 
you want (access to only one host or a whole subnet ?)


note though that stunnel is really fine for linux2linux configs, using 
stunnel at both ends, I dont know how it works with win tools.

(actually my config involves 2 masqueraded private class C subnetworks
and only the linux masquerading routers are "aware" of the trick -- note 
too that you dont need masquerading on the vpn)

XFS ReiserFS and ext3 performance comparison

[Steve Kieu]

Hi,

Sorry if this is off the topic.

Yes there have been already a lot of discussion about
this matter but this only mentioned about ext2 (not
clearly for ext3) so I would like to know your
experience of using and comparison btw them.

Personally I have used reiserfs, ext2 and jfs, xfs;
reiserfs of fine but it seems to use much system
resources and performance is not so well compared to
ext2. JFS seems to be fine without one power incident
that trashed my whole system without recovery so I
have to let it go. Now I am using xfs, and almost
pleased with its performance and stability. As the SGI
people is not so keen to catch up with the kernel team
I would like to look for one alternative (ext3 for
example)

Any ideas are highly appreciated.

Cheers,



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Re: JDK in unstable?

[Craig Dickson]

Hank Marquardt wrote:

> Can the java SDK (1.3.1) be installed in unstable? ...

Yes. I have it working.

> I downloaded
> the official sun linux binary ... unpacked it, updated alterntives and
> and exported the class paths ... all I get are complaints about libs
> missing (libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 missing)

It's in the oldlibs section. I think the one you want is
libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1.

Craig

Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato

[Robin Gerard]

 On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 10:47:24PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote:
 > On 07/16/01 07:20:47 +0200, Joost Kooij wrote:
 > > 
 > > Better is: add your user to the cdrom group and chmod the device to that
 > > group instead of disk.  
 > 
 > Thanks for the heads up. I know how to add a user to a group, but how
 > does one remove a user from a group? I'm looking at the man page for
 > usermod right now, and not really feeling too confident that it's
 > going to do what I want. I don't want to remove myself from other
 > groups, especially my default group.
 
 Have a look at the attached mail that I send you.
 HTH  

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Subject: Re: XMMS: root can / user can not listen Audio CDs
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On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 06:39:07PM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
> Thomas Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> TM> Adding user to group DISK solved my problem.
> 
> You almost definitely don't want to add users to group disk, since
> that gives them read/write access to raw devices for all of your disks 
> (meaning that they can directly read the bits off the hard disk,
> meaning that they can effectively ignore filesystem permissions).
> Better to change the group owner of your cdrom device to 'cdrom' with
> chgrp, and then add users to group 'cdrom'.
> 
> -- 
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> 
O.k. Gerard -- glad to help also a bit:
I removed user "tma" from group "disk" by

   gpasswd -d tma disk 
   
and I changed the owner of my cdrom-drive "/hdc" 
(until now  owner being "disk") by

   chgrp -c cdrom /dev/hdc
   
to "cdrom" (adding -c for getting informed what happens)


User tma has been a member of group "cdrom" before so after these changes
XMMS now may be enjoyed by tma too without letting him destroy important data.

Thanks also to you David for your valuable advice.

This was my first time on this list and I am impressed by speed and quality of
answers.


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Re: How to set up a "prefect" router

[Michael B. Taylor]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:57:44PM -0700, Mike Pfleger wrote:
> 
> Sorry to intrude, but this last bit was too good to pass up!  I have access
> to DATA I/O burner that will happily do EPROMs like those Award's BIOS came
> on in those older MBs.  Where are docs on how to muck with this to make an
> intelligent ROM boot (like Sun hdwr does)?
> 
http://sunsite.utk.edu/ftp/pub/linux/LDP/HOWTO/Diskless-HOWTO-8.html
is a good starting point.  (You may want to pick an LDP mirror closer
to you, utk=Knoxville, TN).  I think there may be a helpful doc or 
2 in the kernel source tree also.

Have fun

Mike

Re: .bashrc

[Greg Wiley]

On  Tuesday, July 17, 2001 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Subject: Re: .bashrc


> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 08:00:16AM -0700 or thereabouts, Greg Wiley wrote:
> > The problem with ~/.xsession for kdm is that
> > you lose the session selection capability of
> > the login app.  I ended up creating a new
> > mechanism that sources a local user init file
> > before running the main Xsession.
>
> For me this is wrong. I have an ~/.xsession file and am using kdm. As
> long as I use the "default" session my .xsession is executed, otherwise
> the window-manager i specified. I remember the kdm manpage explaining
> this quite nicely.

You are right, Karsten, but I am referring to
getting the best of both.  I wanted a local
initialization mechanism, like ~/.xsession,
independent of the choice of session type.
If I use ~/.xsession, those settings don't take
effect in "non-default" sessions.

-=greg

Re: Scanner + printer choice

[Mart van de Wege]

On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:17:43 +1000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have decided to purchase a new scanner and printer - especially since
> Canon seem unwilling to help development of drivers for their scanners.
> I intend to ditch my Canon models to a friend and won't buy Canon again.
> 
> I was considering one of those combo units with the printer and scanner
> together - preferably flat bed scanner, so I can do photocopying if
> really needed.
> 
> What experiences do people have with these?  I have been looking at the
> HP ones but the scanner drivers seem heavily in development.
> 
>

Yeah I've done the same with Canon equipment. I also disadvised them to
friends looking for cheap equipment, so this behaviour is costing them
customers alright.
As regards the HP combo units, I use a PSC500, and the scanner works just
fine. In fact the scanner drivers are much better quality than the printer
drivers. As long as you read the install instructions carefully, they
should give you no problems. They are supposed to work with 2.4 series
kernels as well, but I haven't got them to build against that yet.
I can definitely recommend HP gear for the quality.

Good luck,

Mart

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Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato

[Vineet Kumar]

excerpted from usermod(8):

   -G group,[...]
  A  list  of  supplementary groups which the user is
  also a member of.  Each group is separated from the
  next  by  a  comma, with no intervening whitespace.
  The groups are subject to the same restrictions  as
  the group given with the -g option.  If the user is
  currently a member of a group which is not  listed,
  the user will be removed from the group

Vineet

* Mark Wagnon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010715 22:56]:
> On 07/16/01 07:20:47 +0200, Joost Kooij wrote:
> > 
> > Better is: add your user to the cdrom group and chmod the device to that
> > group instead of disk.  
> 
> Thanks for the heads up. I know how to add a user to a group, but how
> does one remove a user from a group? I'm looking at the man page for
> usermod right now, and not really feeling too confident that it's
> going to do what I want. I don't want to remove myself from other
> groups, especially my default group.
> 
> Can you (or anyone else) give me a hint?
> 
> Thanks again!
> -- 
> Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
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Re: 2 Monitors/1 MG400/X 3.3.6

[Darryl L. Pierce]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 04:31:11PM -0400, Ari Pollak wrote:
> I'm not sure if both heads of a Matrox G400 are supported in 3.3.x. If
> you have multiple video cards, it's theoretically possible to start each
> card up in a different display, and then switch between the two using
> ctrl+alt+F7 or F8, but I'm not sure of the specifics of setting this up.
> With X4, it's fairly straightforward, with Xinerama allowing one monitor
> to be on one portion of the display, and the other monitor to be right
> next to it, allowing you to just drag the mouse from one monitor to the
> other as if it were one big monitor.

I'm in the process now of downloading XFree86 4.1.0 to install on my 
(freshly installed) potato system. Any suggestions or hints for me while
installing/configuring?

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Re: 2 Monitors/1 MG400/X 3.3.6

[Ari Pollak]

I'm not sure if both heads of a Matrox G400 are supported in 3.3.x. If
you have multiple video cards, it's theoretically possible to start each
card up in a different display, and then switch between the two using
ctrl+alt+F7 or F8, but I'm not sure of the specifics of setting this up.
With X4, it's fairly straightforward, with Xinerama allowing one monitor
to be on one portion of the display, and the other monitor to be right
next to it, allowing you to just drag the mouse from one monitor to the
other as if it were one big monitor.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 04:08:49PM -0500, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> I sent an email out yesterday about setting up 2 monitors on my
> Matrox Millennium G400 card. The response I received seems to 
> assume that I'm running X 4.x. I'm not, I'm using Potato and don't
> want to dabble with woody if I don't have to. Can someone give me
> a lead or hint on what I need to do with a X 3.3.6 system to setup
> dual monitor support?
> 


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Re: perl question

[Bud Rogers]

On Wednesday 17 July 2002 03:53 pm, Mike Egglestone wrote:
> Hello...
>
> Here's one for some of the perl guys
>
> I want to delete a directory that will have files in it...
> I don't know the name of the files there for wildcards might
> be needed
>
> I understand that "rmdir" will wipe out an empty directory
> and "unlink" will wipe out files (only if I know the names of the files)
>
> What would be a nice command to remove a dirtory that had files in it?
> Even better what would be a nice command to delete all files
> in one directory... (leaving the directory intact)

#! /usr/bin/perl -w
 
$dir = "/path/to/dir";

opendir(DIR, $dir) or die "can't opendir $dir: $!";
 
while ( defined ($file = readdir DIR) ) {
next if $file =~ /^\.\.?$/; # skip . and ..
unlink $file;
}

Quick and dirty, but I think it will delete all files in one directory.  
Won't handle subdirs.  Then you could probably just

close(DIR);
rmdir $dir;

to get rid of the directory.


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Re: JDK in unstable?

[Ari Pollak]

There are JDK debs at
ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/java/debian/dists/woody/non-free/binary-i386/

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Re: [OT] beware citibank!

[Jens Gecius]

Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> ---Very OffTopic---

But very true!
 
> Anybody thinking about opening an acount with Citibank, beware.
> 
> I recently opened an account with them, wooed by their rating as "#1
> for the Internet Transactor". Offering free online bill payment was
> also very attractive.
> 
> Unfortunately, I was unable to get their site to cooperate with me
> using any of Mozilla, Netscape 4.77, or Konqueror. Their site is so
> javascript-heavy (and broken) that I could only get it to work with
> IE/Win32. Unacceptable.

Recently, I got their site back to work with netscape 4.7x, but not
mozilla.

I contacted them already several times about the issues. At least, ns
4.7 seems to work again.

Mozilla just doesn't work.

I think it is pretty ignorant to say "we care about security" and the
only way to get in is via a pretty unsecure OS/Browser (That's
actually what I told them when they redesigned their "Direct Access"
and it wasn't working with netscape 4.7x on Linux).

They check your browser not by actually checking javascript and 128bit
encryption but only by name and OS.

I really hope they'll fix their site soon.

> I have closed the account and explained to them what must be done for
> their site to be considered good, useful, or even functional. I just
> want to warn everyone that business should be taken elsewhere.

You're right. Being the biggest retail bank in the world and forcing
people to use a certain browser/os just doesn't fit.

Fortunately, there are alternatives out there (but not many, I guess).

> Advocacy counts most when we choose to make conscientious decisions to
> effect economic results. I'll take my business elsewhere, and I urge
> that you do, too.

I'd like to, but I need the account only for another 11 months, so
it's actually more hassle for me to change everything than to live
with these ignorants.

But it was definitely a good idea to bring this issue up!

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Re: perl question

[Craig Dickson]

Mike Egglestone wrote:

> What would be a nice command to remove a dirtory that had files in it?

rm -rf directory

> Even better what would be a nice command to delete all files
> in one directory... (leaving the directory intact)

rm -rf directory/*

which will delete everything in a directory, including subdirectories; or

find . -type f | xargs rm -f

to delete all files in a directory or its subdirectories, but keep the
directory structure intact.

Perl isn't required.

Craig

Re: hard drives

[Mike Fedyk]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 01:08:39PM -0700, allen wayne best just ramblin in his 
amx wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 July 2001 10:45, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 01:39:03PM -0700, allen wayne best just ramblin in 
> his amx wrote:
> > > initially, i had the setup as
> > > disk
> > > disk
> > > cd-rom
> > > disk
> > >
> > > with all jumpers (master/slave) appropriatly set.
> > > and as previously noted, redhat 7.1 (2.4.2) saw the configuration,
> > > debian (2.2.12) did not.
> > >
> > > do to double check jumpers, and just out of curiosity, i switched hdc and
> > > hdd. now both linux's see all four drives. (which still begs the question
> > > why debian did not before but that is just a side issue now. it
> > > works.
> > >
> > > thanks to martin for his kind help.
> >
> > As a test case case, you could try the debian 2.2.12 kernel in redhat.
> > You'd probably get the same problems in redhat with the same kernel.
> >
> > What is your ide controller, I'll bet it's a driver issue.
> >
> On Monday 16 July 2001 16:44, john wrote:
> > I seem to recall that way back (around 1994, 1995) I found that with a
> > Tekram IDE card (set up as secondary IDE controller) I could only see the
> > last drive if I had it primary on the controller, with the CD as slave. It
> > might be the IDE controller causing you grief - although I'm surprised if
> > that still applies with modern hardware.
> >
> > JPF
> 
> 'bout the only thing i can say about which ide controller is used is that  it 
> is built into the motherboard in a hp vectra vl.
> 
> and the driver version is one thing i did notice: redhat 7.1 has an ide 
> driver version 1.10 whereas debian with 2.2.12 has an ide driver version of 
> 1.08. i am inclinded to believe the difference lies there.
> 

Run /sbin/lspci and paste the output here.

Maybe it'll help someone reading the archives...

Mike

Re: How to write a man page?

[Colin Watson]

Leonard Stiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> what formats,
>
>Troff, with the man macros.
>
>> tools do I need to write
>
>A text editor (or better still, *the* text editor, ie. Emacs :-)
>
>> and format a man page?
>
>groff
>
>See "man 7 man" for more information on the troff man macros.

Also have a look at /usr/share/doc/man-db/examples/manpage.example for
the basic structure.

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Re: how to switch root file system?

[Steve Kieu]

 --- Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Kieu
wrote:
> > yeah AFAIK povot_root is a system call ? and to
> use
> > that I have to do some coding, is it right?
> 
> Pivot root is a system call but there is a program
> by the same name.
> pivot_root(8).

Sorry to waste your time, as my $PATH doesn't contain
/sbin so I type pivot_root ; I got command not found.
Thanks for your tip.



 
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Re: [OT} Linux and reiserfs

[MaX in the FaX]

Sean Quinlan wrote:


* Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2001-07-15 19:40):



Unofficial reiserfs install disks seem to come and go quite regularly,
the site I got mine from no longer exists... but this site looks like
it has pretty much the same disks:

http://debianboot.digitaltux.com/






below a Forwarw of a email of mine, in debian-italy

there is 6 floppy image (1 rescue, 1 root and 4 drivers) for a little 
bit complete installation.


This disks are based on kernel 2.2.19 + reiserfs.

enjoy

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viste le notevoli richieste che ho ricevuto in privato, e non avendo
intenzione di scrivere una decina di email uguali, messo il documento qui:

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/ab63fc3c/bc/ReiserFs.txt?bc8z6o7AYDzK2pRH

due persone mi hanno fatto notare che su debianplanet il sito contenente
le immagini dei floppy non sono piu` raggiungibili.

bene, ho messo le mie qui: (6 floppy)

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/ab63fc3c/bc/root.bin?bc8z6o7ALPb5oAVK

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/ab63fc3c/bc/rescue.bin?bc8z6o7AVB7jUjI1

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/ab63fc3c/bc/driver-1.bin?bc8z6o7AD_56.OHr

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/ab63fc3c/bc/driver-2.bin?bc8z6o7AJLx3kjPI

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/ab63fc3c/bc/driver-3.bin?bc8z6o7ANbP_eYGD

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/ab63fc3c/bc/driver-4.bin?bc8z6o7AW6k.HpHa


una volta scaricate, con una shell (come root)

# dd if=immagineX of=/dev/fd0

dove immagineX e` il nome del file raw scaricato.

l'installazione e´ uguale a quella di sempre, ma ha un paio di opzioni
in piu` dedicate a reiserfs.

L'installazione prevede automaticamente ad aggiungere l'opzione "notail"
al disco di boot per garantire la riuscita dell'operazione.

con questi floppy si ottiene un kernel 2.2.19 e reiserfs in tutte le
partizioni desiderate.

"Purtroppo" sono ancora in inglese, bisognerebbe che contattassi Eugenia
F. per avere i .po del pacchetto boot-floppies che ha tradotto l'anno
scorso... ma essendo pigro non ho voglia di cercarlo nella rete.. [:-)]

...dimemticavo!!! questi floppy NON hanno il supporto per pcmcia.  mi 
spiace, ma non ci stava, inoltre non ho trovato il pacchetto corretto 
per abilitarlo. Per chi avesse bisogno del pcmcia e si accontenta per 
l'installazione (poi se lo ricompila con la versione preferita)... ho 
una versione con il 2.1.17. Sono tre floppy.



saluti a tutti!
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Re: boot problem

[J.A.Serralheiro]

Sorry. Ididnt check that, and its been a while since i did the last
configuration. 

Re: gnucash 1.6.1-2

[D-Man]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 11:06:28AM -0700, William S. wrote:
| I used apt-get install to get the latest unstable
| version of gnucash. When I try to run it I get:
| 
| gnucash: error while loading shared libraries:
| libqthreads.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No
| such file or directory
| 
| I am using kernel 2.4.5 with the latest unstable
| packages. I currently have libguile9, libc5 and libc6
| installed and all the other packages apt-get deemed
| necessary.

Do you have libqthreads?  (Is that really supposed to be a 'q' or a
'p'?)

| How do I get this to run?

Try 'ls -l /lib/lib*threads* /usr/lib/lib*threads*' and see if you
really do have that library or not.  If not, find out what package has
it (http://packages.debian.org) and install it.

-D

2.4 kernel and pcmcia nic

[Craig Coles]

I have my new laptop working with unstable and the 2.2.18 kernel.  I have
built the 2.4.6 kernel but have not found all the right options to get the
new kernel (or something) to bring up the network card (a 3com pcmcia 3c575
or something, the 3c59x driver seems to like it).  If I select i82365,
3c59x, and cardbus support in the kernel (not as modules), the laptop will
give the familar two beeps indicating the card services are working, but the
network setting in /etc/pcmcia/network.opts are never applied.

What is the trick to get this to work with a 2.4 kernel?


-Craig

Re: How to set up a "prefect" router

[Martin F. Krafft]

also sprach Raffaele Sandrini (on Tue, 17 Jul 2001 06:33:49PM +0200):
> I have an old 486 DX33Mhz PC. I'd like to set it up as a router. It has a 
> Ethernetcard,  250MB HDD and no CDROM.
> What is importatnt to look at? Should i use a 1 floppy Linux? If yes wichone? 
> Should i use debian? Is it important to use kern2.4? Other usful tipps?

i have just done that. how much RAM do you have? i wouldn't start with
less than 16Mb. and yes, i use the 2.4.6 kernels and it works like a
charm. is this modem or ISDN or DSL routing?

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perl question

[Mike Egglestone]

Hello...

Here's one for some of the perl guys

I want to delete a directory that will have files in it...
I don't know the name of the files there for wildcards might 
be needed

I understand that "rmdir" will wipe out an empty directory
and "unlink" will wipe out files (only if I know the names of the files)

What would be a nice command to remove a dirtory that had files in it?
Even better what would be a nice command to delete all files
in one directory... (leaving the directory intact)

Thanks
Mike

Re: zip drive?

[Mike Fedyk]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 10:36:02AM -0400, D-Man wrote:
> | filnames. Well, most times I use vfat foramttd ZIPs and the few 
> | times I use something else I use
> | mount -t hfs /dev/hdd /zip
> | (why don't I need a partition number in this case?)
> 
> I guess because the entire disk is 'hfs' (the partition starts at the
> very front) or maybe the hfs part of the mounter can figure it out?
> (I have no idea what 'hfs' is nor have I used it)
> 
HFS is used by MacOS.  I assume that you haven't worked with macs at
all.

Usually mac zips use the mac disklabel which is different from x86
partition tables.  That's why that works...

[OT] beware citibank!

[Vineet Kumar]

---Very OffTopic---

Anybody thinking about opening an acount with Citibank, beware.

I recently opened an account with them, wooed by their rating as "#1
for the Internet Transactor". Offering free online bill payment was
also very attractive.

Unfortunately, I was unable to get their site to cooperate with me
using any of Mozilla, Netscape 4.77, or Konqueror. Their site is so
javascript-heavy (and broken) that I could only get it to work with
IE/Win32. Unacceptable.

I have closed the account and explained to them what must be done for
their site to be considered good, useful, or even functional. I just
want to warn everyone that business should be taken elsewhere.

Advocacy counts most when we choose to make conscientious decisions to
effect economic results. I'll take my business elsewhere, and I urge
that you do, too.

(BTW, I have found Wells Fargo's site to be cooperative with navigator
and mozilla, but alas, no links/lynx. This is meant to be an
endorsement, not an advertisement; I am in no way affiliated with any
bank.)

Vineet


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Re: Gnome got ugly?

[csj]

On Tuesday 17 July 2001 23:14, David Z. Maze wrote:
> Kurt Dresner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> KD> Does anyone know what happened with the recent (last couple of
> weeks) KD> update of gdm, such that the login screen is just really
> ugly looking? KD> It used to have the little picture and just the
> simple "welcome to KD> hostname" screen.  Now it has all these
> menus and stuff.  Is there any KD> way to change it back to being
> all nice looking?
>
> Edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and restart gdm.  Reading gdm(8) would have
> pointed you to this file fairly quickly.

If he's talking about the latest and (I think) the greatest gdm (2.2 
unstable), there's now a nice /usr/bin/gdmconfig helper app (root). 
No need to fiddle with some poorly documented config file. You can 
now easily theme your gdm with the same indecent themes you use on 
your (gnome) desktop. There's also gdmphotosetup to let you put your 
face or your cat's as the clickable login icon. 

dpkg -L gdm | grep bin
/usr/bin
/usr/bin/gdm
/usr/bin/gdmchooser
/usr/bin/gdmlogin
/usr/bin/gdmconfig
/usr/bin/gdmphotosetup

Re: via82cxxx

[Igor Guida]

On Monday 16 July 2001 20:09, Tony Godshall wrote:
> > > I've got a question about sound configuration.
> > > I know I have a VIA  PCI audio controller :
> > > I/O 220-22F
> > > IRQ 5
> > > and it seems to be sound blaster compatible.
> > >
> > > What should I do to get it working ???
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > Olivier.
> >
> > I had the same problem about 2 months ago the solution : install
> > kernel 2.4.0 test 5 or better. I have test 5 on my machine right
> > now(I'll get the latest kernel later on, when it's stablised maybe).
> >
> > just modprobe soundcore, ac97something and then via82cxxx. works like a
> > charm
> > Pat
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm having a similar problem, exact same config as Olivier
> mentioned (sb io=0x220, irq=5, synth io=0x330).  Can't find
> any place to indicate what the base io addr is for this sound
> card (presumably this is only necessary in legacy mode?  oddly,
> there is a way to spec the synth's io port.)  Kernel is 2.4.6
> (have also tried with earlier kernels from stable and testing).
> CPU is duron 800 and VIA chip is shown in lspci as a VT82C686
> (note: no A or B suffix).  Just tried your (Pat's) suggestion:
>
> dude:~# modprobe soundcore [success]
> dude:~# modprobe ac97_codec [success]
> dude:~# modprobe via82cxxx_audio
> /lib/modules/2.4.6/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o: init_module: No
> such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module
> parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters
> /lib/modules/2.4.6/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o: insmod
> /lib/modules/2.4.6/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o failed
> /lib/modules/2.4.6/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o: insmod
> via82cxxx_audio failed
>
> I have been able to load sb.o but this is not useful as apps
> complain about only having 8-bit audio :(.
>
> Thanks for any assistance or suggestions.
You shuold disable in your bios the pnp os, and than it will work for me 
it has work
bye
igor

Re: VCD program under Gnome/X11?

[Ari Pollak]

mplayer is excellent for a wide variety of movie formats, including
VCDs. The URL is http://mplayer.sourceforge.net, and I do have debian
packages make if you want..

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Re: Starting with postgreSQL and pgaccess

[Joost Kooij]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 04:30:57PM +, Victor wrote:
> I'm now having a go at using postgresql, the version included in  debian 
> 2.2r3.
> 
> Now, while I've been able to create my first db and tables using psql
> under postgres user, 

No need for that.  Just create a valid user with your id, grant priviledges
to create new databases and then after that you can do most or all things 
as regular user.  Postgresql is a real multi-user database system, you do
not need to be the postgres administrative user all the time.  It's like
your linux system: you shouldn't have to be root all the time.

>  I'm in trouble using pgaccess. After trying to
> open the same db giving its name and postgres as user it invariably
> answers:
> 
> Connection to database failed ConnectDB().Connection refused: Is
> the postmaster running (with -i) at localhost and accepting
> connections on TCP/IP port 5432?

You must enable postgresql to listen to tcp/ip sockets.  By default it will
only listen to local unix domain sockets.  The version of Pgaccess that you
have can only connect to postgresql through the tcp/ip socket interface.

IIRC you have to change the file /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf
Make it only listen to 127.0.0.1, that is all pgaccess on the local
host requires.

> I've checked in /etc/services for port 5432 and it is there for postgres.

That file is just an informative lookup table.  It does not configure
any of your services, it only lists well-know ports and commonly associated 
services.

Cheers,


Joost

Re: How to set up a "prefect" router

[Mike Pfleger]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 02:02:54PM -0400, Michael B. Taylor wrote:

> I think some kind of 1 floppy linux, as you mentioned, might work fine for 
> you.  Other possibilities are floppy based tftp (aka diskless) boot and
> (if you have access to a burner) eprom based tftp boot.


Sorry to intrude, but this last bit was too good to pass up!  I have access
to DATA I/O burner that will happily do EPROMs like those Award's BIOS came
on in those older MBs.  Where are docs on how to muck with this to make an
intelligent ROM boot (like Sun hdwr does)?

TIA,
Mike

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членами кооператива. Затем готовый дом закладывается в банк , полуученые деньги 
идут на оплату строителям. А те кто не смог сразу выкупить квартиру заключает 
договор с банком и оплачивает квартиру в кредит, рассчитываясь с банком на 
прямую. Члены кооператива сдают в кооператив 10% от стоимости проектной 
документации на получение площадок, их оплату, на получение технических условий, 
на корректировку по месту проектной документации. Остальные деньги члены 
кооператива хранят у себя и расплачиваются, переводя их сразу на счет 
строительной 
организациию_Местонахождение 
проекта __город Омск и Омская 
область_Оценка валового 
прироста порядка 50 рублей в год с одного 
дома.Оценка валовых издержек 
__нет_Краткие данные о 
составляющих прироста _себестоимость дома 450рублей , членам кооператива 
дом предлагается за 600рублей, кроме того программой предусматривается 
приобретение завода по производстве газо-пено-бетона, при этом себестоимость его 
составит 500руб. м3, сегодня он стоит по 1200-1500руб. м3 Если его использовать 
при строительстве домов то себестоимость дома составит не более 3800руб.см2, что 
по средствам людям со средним 
достатком.(а) 
На какой стадии находится освоение проекта (Кратко 
опишитепоследнююстадию развития проекта)В настоящее время есть договора 
со строительной организацией, с организацией производящей строительные 
материалы, выделена площадка на строительство 4-х домов на 96 квартир. Нужен 
инвестор.(б) План развития проекта:- Наименование главного 
подрядчика (если имеется):''Сибирский теплолит'' и '''Жилстрой''- 
Запланированный период развития (по сетевому графику): Один год- 
Запланированная дата работ по обустройству фундамента (по сетевому графику): 
июль 2001 годаПросим также нижеуказанные документы представить в 
дополнительных экземплярах (для отправки по трем дополнительным адресам):
- План нахождения проекта- План проекта и схема строительной 
площадки- Исследование осуществимости проекта- Брошюры, если есть в 
наличииС) КредитСумма запрашиваемого кредита (Доллары США) 
50Затраты по проекту (сумма оценочная):30а) Оборотный капитал 
(Доллары США)5б) Основная конструкция (Доллары США)8с) Другое 
(пожалуйста укажите) (Доллары США)оборот с продажи пеноблоков 6$ в месяцВсего (Доллары США) 30$ в 2001г.,20$ в 
2002г.Наличие коллатерала для обеспечения выплаты процентов по 
кредиту :Сегодня у нас есть договор с 
организацией занимающейся продажей горюче смазочных материалов, они готовы 
выступить гарантами. кроме того все строящееся жилье будет принадлежать 
инвестору в пределах 70% от полной его стоимости. На сегодня у нас есть для 
начала строительства 120 рублей. Ч

Re: Getting more from the Sun4M ???

[Guenter Millahn]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Ben Collins wrote:

> > On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Ken Seefried wrote:
> > 
> > > Guenter Millahn writes:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) Is it possible to run the SCSI connection with a higher speed?
> > > 
> > > There are SBus cards that can run faster.  I've got an SBus FWD SCSI 
> > > drive 
> > > that makes a different. 
> > > 
> > > Ken Seefried, CISSP 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sorry, Ken, for my unclear request: I wanted to know, if it is possible
> > to use this old HW with 10 MBytes/sec both on SCSI controller and disk,
> > e.g. by using a better SCSI driver in kernel.
> 
> A "better SCSI driver" cannot overcome the limitations of the hardware.
> 
> Ben


Agree. But both Controller and Disk are Fast-SCSI (aka 10 MByte/s) capable.
But the kernel messages tell me that it runs on 5 MHz. On S/E SCSI this is
means IMO 8 data bits * 5 MHz = 5 MByte/sec. 
Is it possible to use the full 10 MByte/sec bandwidth???

Greetings, Guenter


md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
esp0: IRQ 36 SCSI ID 7 Clk 40MHz CCF=8 TOut 167 NCR53C9XF(espfast)
ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use.
scsi0 : Sparc ESP100A-FAST
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: SEAGATE   Model: ST1480   SUN0424  Rev: 8628
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0
scsi : detected 1 SCSI disk total.
esp0: target 3 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI]
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 843284 [411 MB] [0.4 GB]
sunlance.c:v1.12 11/Mar/99 Miguel de Icaza ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
eth0: LANCE 08:00:20:18:c7:07 
eth0: using auto-carrier-detection.


Other Question: Supports the Lance ethernet chip (AMD 7990) full duplex 
10 Mbit/s ethernet? Thanks.

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Re: locale problem

[csj]

On Tuesday 17 July 2001 20:04, Richard Black wrote:
> My locales seem to be screwed up:
>
> nedit
> NEdit: Locale not supported by C library.
> NEdit: Using C locale instead.
>
> I reran local-gen:
> #locale-gen
> Generating locales...
>   en_CA.ISO-8859-1... done
>   en_IE.ISO-8859-1... done
>   en_NZ.ISO-8859-1... done
>   en_US.ISO-8859-1... done
>   fr_CA.ISO-8859-1... done
>
> but it didn't help.  Suggestions would be welcome...

What does typing "locale" say? You might need to do an "export 
LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-1" I have had this problem when running a display 
manager which resets the locale to something palatable to X.

Re: .bashrc

[Karsten Heymann]

Hi,

On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 08:00:16AM -0700 or thereabouts, Greg Wiley wrote:
> The problem with ~/.xsession for kdm is that
> you lose the session selection capability of
> the login app.  I ended up creating a new
> mechanism that sources a local user init file
> before running the main Xsession.

For me this is wrong. I have an ~/.xsession file and am using kdm. As
long as I use the "default" session my .xsession is executed, otherwise
the window-manager i specified. I remember the kdm manpage explaining
this quite nicely.

Yours,

Karsten

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Re: gnucash 1.6.1-2

[Geoffrey Romer]

This is a bug that just appeared in the latest version of libguile9, whereby
libqthreads (Which GnuCash needs) was accidentally not included. I've 
submitted a bug and it has been acknowledged. A corrected version of 
libguile should be forthcoming, hopefully within a day. In the meantime, you'll
have to sit tight.

> I used apt-get install to get the latest unstable
> version of gnucash. When I try to run it I get:
> 
> gnucash: error while loading shared libraries:
> libqthreads.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No
> such file or directory
> 
> I am using kernel 2.4.5 with the latest unstable
> packages. I currently have libguile9, libc5 and libc6
> installed and all the other packages apt-get deemed
> necessary.
> 
> How do I get this to run?
> 
> Bill
> 
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Re: hard drives

[allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx]

On Tuesday 17 July 2001 10:45, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 01:39:03PM -0700, allen wayne best just ramblin in 
his amx wrote:
> > initially, i had the setup as
> > disk
> > disk
> > cd-rom
> > disk
> >
> > with all jumpers (master/slave) appropriatly set.
> > and as previously noted, redhat 7.1 (2.4.2) saw the configuration,
> > debian (2.2.12) did not.
> >
> > do to double check jumpers, and just out of curiosity, i switched hdc and
> > hdd. now both linux's see all four drives. (which still begs the question
> > why debian did not before but that is just a side issue now. it
> > works.
> >
> > thanks to martin for his kind help.
>
> As a test case case, you could try the debian 2.2.12 kernel in redhat.
> You'd probably get the same problems in redhat with the same kernel.
>
> What is your ide controller, I'll bet it's a driver issue.
>
> Mike

On Monday 16 July 2001 16:44, john wrote:
> I seem to recall that way back (around 1994, 1995) I found that with a
> Tekram IDE card (set up as secondary IDE controller) I could only see the
> last drive if I had it primary on the controller, with the CD as slave. It
> might be the IDE controller causing you grief - although I'm surprised if
> that still applies with modern hardware.
>
> JPF

'bout the only thing i can say about which ide controller is used is that  it 
is built into the motherboard in a hp vectra vl.

and the driver version is one thing i did notice: redhat 7.1 has an ide 
driver version 1.10 whereas debian with 2.2.12 has an ide driver version of 
1.08. i am inclinded to believe the difference lies there.

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Re: seting up a gateway

[D-Man]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 07:29:12PM +, Hereward Cooper wrote:

| Is there a gateway HOWTO? I found something along that lines but none of it 
| applied to a debian system.

It would be titled "IP Masquerade" and "Linux Networking" or something
like that (on linuxdoc).

| Also what do i need a 2.4.6 kernel for it to work, am i right in
| thinking that it is different from 2.2.x?

I know you will need iptables for a 2.4 kernel (haven't been there
yet).  For 2.2 kernels it is as simple as "apt-get install ipmasq"
(which will install ipchains which does the "real" work) and then tell
the others on the LAN to use your IP as the default gateway.

-D

2 Monitors/1 MG400/X 3.3.6

[Darryl L. Pierce]

I sent an email out yesterday about setting up 2 monitors on my
Matrox Millennium G400 card. The response I received seems to 
assume that I'm running X 4.x. I'm not, I'm using Potato and don't
want to dabble with woody if I don't have to. Can someone give me
a lead or hint on what I need to do with a X 3.3.6 system to setup
dual monitor support?

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Re: install debian up redhat 6.2 ...

[Joost Kooij]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 09:42:24AM -0500, Saul Fabian wrote:
> I have a problem, ?How I can format my hard disk ?
> 
> I want to change my redhat 6.2's linux to debian, but
> I can?t install debian. When I boot the debian
> installation disk, my system gives my this message:
> 
> loading linux ...
> 
> can anibody help my???

No need to "format" your harddisk.  Just reuse the existing
partitions and the debian installer will re"format" these
automatically as filesystems are created with mkfs.ext2.

In the case of a /home filesystem, you don't have to zap it,
you can simply mount the old filesystem during installation.

Cheers,


Joost

How to set up a "prefect" router

[Raffaele Sandrini]

Hi

I have an old 486 DX33Mhz PC. I'd like to set it up as a router. It has a 
Ethernetcard,  250MB HDD and no CDROM.
What is importatnt to look at? Should i use a 1 floppy Linux? If yes wichone? 
Should i use debian? Is it important to use kern2.4? Other usful tipps?

cheers,
Raffaele
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