Problem with load order on Gnome login

[hanasaki]

1. Gnome is setting the backround AFTER	my ETerms are started.  Thus they 
cannot get the root backround.


2. All saved windows are coming up in my first virt screen and not in 
the screens they were in when the log out occured.


Thanks for any input.

good news for 3dfx users!

[jeff]

as you can see, i was writing several annoying emails to the list trying to 
figure out WTF was going on with my 3dfx card and xscreensaver.

if your screensaver (mind you, NOT other opengl stuff) is running yucky and 
you use a 3dfx card, try editing the .xscreensaver file in your home 
directory. there's a little stanza that looks like this:

nice:   10
memoryLimit:0M
fade:   True

by default, xscreensaver wrote this file with a memoryLimit of 50M!!!

i simply changed the 50 to a 0 and now my opengl screensavers look groovy. 
yaay. big progress eh?  :)

make sure you have a nice new kernel...i can't stress that enough...and make 
sure you compile DRI (Direct Rendering Infrastructure) and your 3dfx driver 
and you should get some pretty spanky results!

good luck all and peace to the WORLD...not just USA...

-jeff

-- 
Q:  What do you call 15 blondes in a circle?
A:  A dope ring.

Q:  Why do blondes put their hair in ponytails?
A:  To cover up the valve stem.

Re: xscreensaver

[Erik Steffl]

jeff wrote:
> 
> On Friday 16 November 2001 00:08, Erik Steffl wrote:
> > jeff wrote:
> > > On Thursday 15 November 2001 23:05, Erik Steffl wrote:
> > > > jeff wrote:
> > > > > xscreensaver runs fast and looks great in 'windowed' (even maximized)
> > > > > mode but it's _really_ slow and yucky in fullscreen mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > hardware is a penitum iii, voodoo 3/200 AGP and 128 mb ram
> > > > >
> > > > > kernel is 2.4.14 w/DRI and voodoo compiled in
> > > >
> > > >   openGL xscreensaver hacks or all of them?
> > >
> > > what's the diff? for instance, i run bubble3d in a window and it looks
> > > groovy. i run it fullscreen and it's slower than cold molasses...
> >
> >   openGL screensavers use DRI, the other screensaver only use 2d
> > acceleration that is provided by X server. Depending on which
> > screensavers do not work you can start to investigate one thing or
> > another.
> >
> >   I guess you are talking about openGL stuff since bubble3d uses openGL.
> > Just to verify: even if you maximize window (so that it is practically
> > on the full screen) it is smooth, as opposed to fullscreen which is
> > choppy, right?
> 
> ya ya...maximized looks fine but when, say, the screensaver naturally starts
> up, the opengl stuff (bubble3d) is really slow. really slow.  :)  i don't
> really care about screensavers mind you...i'm just trying to figure out why
> it would do that...i want to develop my own opengl programs and something
> silly like this would give me headaches for days.  :)

  well, try some simple program and see what it tells you (inside, when
you switch to fullscreen, there are some functions that give you
capabilities etc. you might be able to figure out whether it uses
software rendering and why).

  if you don't know how to start see e.g. http://nehe.gamedev.net/ (I am
going through these right now, fairly good, clean and understandble), or
check out opengl.org for other tutorials/docs/examples etc.

  I have no idea why would it use dro in window and software rendering
in fullscreen mode...

erik

Re: xscreensaver

[jeff]

On Friday 16 November 2001 00:08, Erik Steffl wrote:
> jeff wrote:
> > On Thursday 15 November 2001 23:05, Erik Steffl wrote:
> > > jeff wrote:
> > > > xscreensaver runs fast and looks great in 'windowed' (even maximized)
> > > > mode but it's _really_ slow and yucky in fullscreen mode.
> > > >
> > > > hardware is a penitum iii, voodoo 3/200 AGP and 128 mb ram
> > > >
> > > > kernel is 2.4.14 w/DRI and voodoo compiled in
> > >
> > >   openGL xscreensaver hacks or all of them?
> >
> > what's the diff? for instance, i run bubble3d in a window and it looks
> > groovy. i run it fullscreen and it's slower than cold molasses...
>
>   openGL screensavers use DRI, the other screensaver only use 2d
> acceleration that is provided by X server. Depending on which
> screensavers do not work you can start to investigate one thing or
> another.
>
>   I guess you are talking about openGL stuff since bubble3d uses openGL.
> Just to verify: even if you maximize window (so that it is practically
> on the full screen) it is smooth, as opposed to fullscreen which is
> choppy, right?

ya ya...maximized looks fine but when, say, the screensaver naturally starts 
up, the opengl stuff (bubble3d) is really slow. really slow.  :)  i don't 
really care about screensavers mind you...i'm just trying to figure out why 
it would do that...i want to develop my own opengl programs and something 
silly like this would give me headaches for days.  :)

thanks again for the advice bub. keep it comin'!  :)

>
> ...
>
> > name of display: :0.0
> > display: :0  screen: 0
> > direct rendering: Yes
>
>   looks ok.
>
>   how do you run it fullscreen? if you just run it with -root option it
> is in root window and looks ugly (blinkig and choppy). Are you using
> xscreensaver to run it?

ya ya...the natural state screensavers look yucky...really slow and kind of 
choppy.

>
>   erik

-- 
Q:  What's buried in Grant's tomb?
A:  A corpse.

Re: xscreensaver

[Erik Steffl]

jeff wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 15 November 2001 23:05, Erik Steffl wrote:
> > jeff wrote:
> > > xscreensaver runs fast and looks great in 'windowed' (even maximized)
> > > mode but it's _really_ slow and yucky in fullscreen mode.
> > >
> > > hardware is a penitum iii, voodoo 3/200 AGP and 128 mb ram
> > >
> > > kernel is 2.4.14 w/DRI and voodoo compiled in
> >
> >   openGL xscreensaver hacks or all of them?
> 
> what's the diff? for instance, i run bubble3d in a window and it looks
> groovy. i run it fullscreen and it's slower than cold molasses...

  openGL screensavers use DRI, the other screensaver only use 2d
acceleration that is provided by X server. Depending on which
screensavers do not work you can start to investigate one thing or
another.

  I guess you are talking about openGL stuff since bubble3d uses openGL.
Just to verify: even if you maximize window (so that it is practically
on the full screen) it is smooth, as opposed to fullscreen which is
choppy, right?

...
> name of display: :0.0
> display: :0  screen: 0
> direct rendering: Yes

  looks ok.

  how do you run it fullscreen? if you just run it with -root option it
is in root window and looks ugly (blinkig and choppy). Are you using
xscreensaver to run it?

erik

Free ISP in California?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Hi all, 

I've just moved to Pasadena (CA) from Italy and would like to know where
I can find an ISP who offers (free) dial-up connection (if any). 

Those whom I've been able to find all requre a Window$ program to be
installed. 

Of course, if I won't find a FREE ISP, then I would pay...still my
laptop ONLY runs Linux, so I don't want any Win packages. 

Anybody can help? 
thanks, 
Alberto. 

Re: unmet dependencies for gnucash

[Christopher N. Deckard]

On Thu, 2001-11-15 at 23:51, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
> On 16-Nov-2001 Christopher N. Deckard wrote:
> > Hello.  I'm running Debian Unstable and I want to use gnucash, but it
> > depends on having libguppi, libgal, and libgtkhtml.  All four of these
> > packages depends on python-base (>= 1.5.2-2).
> > 
> 
> python packages are all being changed out right now.  *ALL* packages that
> depend on python are being fixed as I type this.  It will probably be a week
> before it gets completely sorted out.
> 
> Welcome to unstable.

Great.  Thanks for the quick response.  I figured something like that
was going on since all the python packages were kinda weird at times.

I look forward to a move stable unstable.  :-)

Thanks,
-Chris

Re: unmet dependencies for gnucash

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 16-Nov-2001 Christopher N. Deckard wrote:
> Hello.  I'm running Debian Unstable and I want to use gnucash, but it
> depends on having libguppi, libgal, and libgtkhtml.  All four of these
> packages depends on python-base (>= 1.5.2-2).
> 

python packages are all being changed out right now.  *ALL* packages that
depend on python are being fixed as I type this.  It will probably be a week
before it gets completely sorted out.

Welcome to unstable.

unmet dependencies for gnucash

[Christopher N. Deckard]

Hello.  I'm running Debian Unstable and I want to use gnucash, but it
depends on having libguppi, libgal, and libgtkhtml.  All four of these
packages depends on python-base (>= 1.5.2-2).

When I do an `apt-get -d -y upgrade` I get this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # apt-get -d -y upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  gnucash: Depends: libgal15 (>= 0.15) but it is not installable
   Depends: libgtkhtml18 (>= 0.15.0-3) but it is not installable
   Depends: python1.5-base (>= 1.5.2-17.0.1)
  guppi: Depends: python-base (>= 1.5.2-2) but it is not installable
  libguppi11: Depends: python-base but it is not installable
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.

If I use -f install, it will remove those packages from my system, and I
don't want that.  But I can't upgrade the existing packages either.  I
have python 2.1 installed, and it claims to be a replacement for
python-base, but it doesn't seem like the package management system is
noticing that.

Any suggestions?

Please CC me on any reply.  I am not subscribed to debian-user.

Thank you,
-Chris

Re: xscreensaver

[jeff]

On Thursday 15 November 2001 23:05, Erik Steffl wrote:
> jeff wrote:
> > xscreensaver runs fast and looks great in 'windowed' (even maximized)
> > mode but it's _really_ slow and yucky in fullscreen mode.
> >
> > hardware is a penitum iii, voodoo 3/200 AGP and 128 mb ram
> >
> > kernel is 2.4.14 w/DRI and voodoo compiled in
>
>   openGL xscreensaver hacks or all of them?

what's the diff? for instance, i run bubble3d in a window and it looks 
groovy. i run it fullscreen and it's slower than cold molasses...

>
>   for openGL: what does glxinfo say? is DRI actually on? do you only use
> 16 bit depth (hw limitation of voodoo 3)

yeah...only 16

>
>   for the rest: is the card recognized as voodoo 3? is the HW
> acceleration on? check the output of X
>

check this out:

name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: VA Linux Systems, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Voodoo3 20010501 x86/MMX
OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.4.2

>   erik

thanks for you answer...i will keep hacking until i cry  :)

-- 
Q:  How many elephants can you fit in a VW Bug?
A:  Four.  Two in the front, two in the back.

Q:  How can you tell if an elephant is in your refrigerator?
A:  There's a footprint in the mayo.

Q:  How can you tell if two elephants are in your refrigerator?
A:  There's two footprints in the mayo.

Q:  How can you tell if three elephants are in your refrigerator?
A:  The door won't shut.

Q:  How can you tell if four elephants are in your refrigerator?
A:  There's a VW Bug in your driveway.

Notes on upgrading potato -> woody

[Aaron Hall]

I finally took the plunge and upgraded a non-critical server (just runs my
domain :) to woody the other day. After having read this list for several
months, I was prepared for what I thought could be a challenge. It wasn't,
really, but I do have a bit of feedback, and a couple of questions.

First of all, after updating sources.list, I used dselect for the main
part of the upgrade. Then I did various bits of cleanup with apt-get. I
was upgrading over an ssh connection, not on the console.

* When installing the new libc6, I was asked if I wished to restart
  various inet servers, but debconf(?) wouldn't accept keyboard input.
  I had to ^Z to a shell, kill dselect, and restart it. Then it was
  fine.

* dselect had only installed perl-base 5.6, no perl, perl-modules, or
  perl-doc. That caused various things not to work until I figured out
  what was going on.

* Apache and its associated packages were removed. When dselect was
  finished, I had no webserver. Easily fixed, but why did that happen?

* sendmail seemed to be ignored. I was still running 8.9.3 from potato
  after the upgrade. When I used apt-get to upgrade it, the new sendmail
  package had a logcheck file that conflicted with one supplied by
  logcheck itself. I had to resort to dpkg -i --force-overwrite. Was
  there a better way to handle that?

On the whole, though, things went well. I'm quite happy. I've thought
that Debian rocked ever since I started using it, and I think so now
more than ever. I'd like to thank the list for giving me such a good
background into the ins and outs of debian (particularly dpkg and
company).

I do plan to upgrade at least one more potato server to woody in the
near future. Does anyone have any insight into the above glitches that
might help smooth out future upgrades?

Thanks,
Aaron

-- 
Aaron Hall :  Mac OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:  easier than debugging Windows. (Go Apple!)

Macintosh/UNIX Weenie, Network Flack, and...eh, whatever.

Re: xscreensaver

[Erik Steffl]

jeff wrote:
> 
> xscreensaver runs fast and looks great in 'windowed' (even maximized) mode
> but it's _really_ slow and yucky in fullscreen mode.
> 
> hardware is a penitum iii, voodoo 3/200 AGP and 128 mb ram
> 
> kernel is 2.4.14 w/DRI and voodoo compiled in

  openGL xscreensaver hacks or all of them?

  for openGL: what does glxinfo say? is DRI actually on? do you only use
16 bit depth (hw limitation of voodoo 3)

  for the rest: is the card recognized as voodoo 3? is the HW
acceleration on? check the output of X

erik

Re: emacs related

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 15-Nov-2001 Jeffrin wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to do auto-formatting related to my need.
> 

unrelated, but flyspell is also really cool.

Re: emacs related

[Craig Dickson]

Jeffrin wrote:

> Is it possible to do auto-formatting related to my need.

I think you want auto-fill-mode. You may also want to look at some of
the Emacs Lisp variables having to do with auto-formatting, such as
sentence-end and sentence-end-double-space.

Craig

Re: Unable to remove mysql-server.

[Stephen Gran]

Thus spake Chrys:
> Hi, 
> 
> I tried to uninstall mysql-server to compile the original binary file, but it 
> looks like I have a problem :-(
> Here is what apt-get shows me:
> mobi:~# apt-get remove mysql-server
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   mysql-server
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 1 packages not fully installed or removed.
 ^^^
I think what it's trying to tell you is that mysql-server never
installed cleanly in the first place.  trying apt-get install
--reinstall mysql-server to see if it can correct itself, or if you
have to do more hacking.
HTH,
Steve

-- 
In war, truth is the first casualty.
-- U Thant


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Re: All-In-Wonder card support?

[Bill Triplett]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 08:37:15PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
> I'm building my wife a new Debian machien for Christmas. One of the
> requiremnts is to be able to play TV. Presently I have a Win-TV card in my
> Debian worksation, and have made it work, with my ATI Radeon graphics card.
> 
> I was wondering if I could us an All-In-Wonder card, to reduce total card
> count on her machien?
> 
> Is this card well supported in Debina/Linux? 

Stan,

I am currently using an All-in-Wonder R128 Pro 32MB AGP. It works
quite well for me. TV viewing is supported in X 4.1.0 by the driver
replacements from  and the xawtv
package. Check that website for more info on the various AIW cards'
feature support.

Good luck,
Bill

Re: emacs related

[Matthew Dalton]

DvB wrote:
> 
> "Jeffrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >  Hello all
> >
> >  Can anything  be done in  emacs to eliminate  space after a comma  or a
> >  full stop ?
> >
> 
> hmm... run some kind of replace-regexp maybe? Don't know how much emacs
> regexps support though.
> Personally, I'd probably just run it through perl -e

Search and replace regexp is C-M-%

Then, after entering the search and replace expressions, press 'y' for
each occurance to replace, and 'n' to skip. Press '!' to replace all
without asking, and 'q' or enter to stop the search/replace.

Matthew

SMTP connect to localhost failed

[mdevin]

I don't understand why I have started getting this problem.

Here is my setup:
Potato installation with 2.4.4 kernel using Adrian Bunk's .debs
Connect to ISP using standard dialup modem - using pon
Download mail with fetchmail
Fetchmail delivers it to postfix
Postfix gives it on to procmail
Then I finally read mail with mutt

This setup has been working fine for the last 6 months or more.  And I
have the same setup with exactly the same config files for postfix and
fetchmail on another computer running the same kernel version and it
still works fine.

Last week, I started getting these errors in my syslog when trying to
download my mail:
Nov 16 12:07:44 flea fetchmail[455]: starting fetchmail 5.3.3 daemon
Nov 16 12:07:58 flea fetchmail[455]: 262 messages for mdevin at 
pop.ozemail.com.au (812090 octets).
Nov 16 12:07:59 flea fetchmail[455]: reading message 1 of 262 (3327 octets)
Nov 16 12:08:00 flea fetchmail[455]: SMTP connect to localhost failed
Nov 16 12:08:00 flea fetchmail[455]: SMTP transaction error while fetching from
pop.ozemail.com.au
Nov 16 12:08:00 flea fetchmail[455]: Query status=10 (SMTP)

I have not changed anything recently, which make this all the more
weird.  So, just to make sure that everything was the same as on my
other computer that works still, I copied the /etc/postfix/main.cf file
from it over and only changed the hostname as required in the file.  But
on trying again, it still gives these errors.

I have also tried telnetting into port 25 and, although I am not quite
sure how to do this, it does seem to work OK:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet 127.0.0.1 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to 127.0.0.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 flea.home.net ESMTP Postfix
MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
250 Ok

I wasn't sure what to do next so I just did ^c and aborted from it.
However, it did seem to let me connect.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot this further?  It may
be a hardware problem, because I have hardly used this computer recently
and certainly haven't changed any software config files or the like
recently.

Thanks for any help.
Mark.




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Thinkpad 755c Help replace the bios battery

[BillyBoyHarris]

Hi  
  I am pretty handy when it comes to fixing PC type products, But I recently purchased a bios battery for my thinkpad 755c and I need some help to replace it.
Are you the right person? Or Can you point me in the right direction.

Thanks In Advance
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Re: emacs related

[Jeffrin]

Is it possible to do auto-formatting related to my need.

-- 
Jeffrin Jose T.
www.MSServices.org
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Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[nate]

Frank Zimmermann said:

> As long as your talking about servers this uptime thing is ok, but
> when talking about workstaions it's redicolous, premature and an
> unjustifiable waste of natural resources. I sometimes think Linux
> users just do this to show their Windows using friends how cool
> they  are.
>
> I shut down my machines at the end of the day.

if i did that id spend 20 minutes the next day getting
everything back to the way it was before. and 10 minutes
at the end of each day taking notes on what i was doing
that day, what files i had open in editors, what hosts
i was connected to etc. i have 32 ssh connections going
at this moment(all outbound)

my desktop(at work) also doubles a server(has a DLT4000
hooked to it for nightly backups).

i have so much going in terminals and stuff it would drive
me insane if i had to remember what was going on where and
have to relogin to all my various systems everyday.

i keep stats on my work desktop updated every 30mins
for the curious:
http://portal.aphroland.org/mrtg-config/sample/fury.graphon.com/

and stats on my home systems updated every 5 minutes.
http://mrtg.aphroland.org/

and a screenshot i took a couple weeks ago:
http://mars.aphroland.org/pics/x-desktop-11-05-2001.jpg

i like not rebooting because it reminds me on how unhappy
i was using win32. i was one of the ones that had to reinstall
the whole system 2-3 sometimes 4 times a year. would crash
at the most inconvient times. now i only reboot for hardware
changes and when i do i schedule kernel upgrades. ive
reinstallled win2k in vmware twice in the past six months
and i haven't even rebooted the host machine it runs on!
hah.

nate

Help Please.

[BillyBoyHarris]

Hi  
   I am pretty handy when it comes to fixing PC type products, But I recently purchased a bios battery for my thinkpad 755c and I need some help to replace it.
 Are you the right person? Or Can you point me in the right direction.

Thanks In Advance
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

xscreensaver

[jeff]

xscreensaver runs fast and looks great in 'windowed' (even maximized) mode 
but it's _really_ slow and yucky in fullscreen mode.

hardware is a penitum iii, voodoo 3/200 AGP and 128 mb ram

kernel is 2.4.14 w/DRI and voodoo compiled in

tia

-jeff

-- 
Q:  What's the difference betweeen USL and the Graf Zeppelin?
A:  The Graf Zeppelin represented cutting edge technology for its time.

Re: Making a TCP or UDP or Unux Socket Server Listen on a port

[nate]

 said:
>
>
> My Clients and Server (socket  programs) do not communicate at all
> on this network .
>
> Please guide me on what I should do .

if you figure out a way to do this lemme know theres
a couple apps id like to do it with too. from what ive
read there isn't a way to do it without having the program
do it itself. theres no wrappers that ive seen that can
pipe data from inet to sockets..

nate

Re: X upgrade / downgrade / upgrade??

[nate]

Andrew M.A. Cater said:

> effect.  I may have  a "mixture" of 3.3.6 and 4.0.9 packages.  Help
> me clear this one up to restore my X please!

ive had mixtures before too.. i usually remove everything
and purge everything and apt-get clean and reinstall.

run through the package listing and look for something like
xfree86-common for xfree 3.3.6 or xserver-common for xfree 4
and remove/purge it. this should remove EVERYTHING that depends
on X. all the apps, all the servers etc. i purge it all out
and start fresh.

before reinstalling anything though scan the package list.
incase you don't know the commands, this is what i usually
do:

apt-get remove xserver-common
dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall | awk '{print $1}' | xargs dpkg
--purge
(note the above dpkg line is 1 line not 2)

apt-get clean

(start reinstalling apps here)

worked for me everytime, i rather keep things simple and
redownload then trying to work with dependencies.

note the above may remove a ton of stuff, if you don't like
that then don't do it. it will also purge all the config
files and stuff, so backup what you think you may want to keep.


nate

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[dman]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 05:50:06PM -0800, nate wrote:
| DvB said:
| 
| > Especially the monitor. I have my monitors power down not only to
| > save energy, but also (at least in the case of my home box, which
| > is in my bedroom) because they generate a substantial amount of
| > heat which, in turn, makes my A/C run more often and increses my
| > power bill (not to mention, using more enegery still :-)
| 
| i don't. i dont trust power management on desktops. ive
| come back to too many locked up systems(at least locked up
| as in monitor wont wake up) because of APM. i do turn off
| my monitors when im not using them to reduce heat though.

Yeah, with win98 I _had_ to turn of APM or the machine.  It would lock
up if I let it sit idle for 2 hours.

| i tell people at my company to leave their machines on all
| the time. the less power cycling the better. i do
| promote turning off monitors(manually, not APM) though
| for the sole purposes of keeping heat levels down(same
| goes for lighting). i have an ultra 10 that i powered down
| for 30 minutes(the box was about 6 months old). powered it
| backup..never came back..disk was totally dead. wouldn't
| spin at all. and with the near 2 dozen IBM disk drive failures
| ive had in the past 6 months, im even more for never turning
| off the system.

I've never had a problem with screen blanking in linux, but I haven't
gone very deep into apm settings and shutting down disks, etc.

Though with a disk I think it is good to shut it down periodically, or
not at all.  As you mention above, if the disk isn't shut down
periodically it can wear to the point that it can't start at all.

-D

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[nate]

DvB said:

> Especially the monitor. I have my monitors power down not only to
> save energy, but also (at least in the case of my home box, which
> is in my bedroom) because they generate a substantial amount of
> heat which, in turn, makes my A/C run more often and increses my
> power bill (not to mention, using more enegery still :-)

i don't. i dont trust power management on desktops. ive
come back to too many locked up systems(at least locked up
as in monitor wont wake up) because of APM. i do turn off
my monitors when im not using them to reduce heat though.

i tell people at my company to leave their machines on all
the time. the less power cycling the better. i do
promote turning off monitors(manually, not APM) though
for the sole purposes of keeping heat levels down(same
goes for lighting). i have an ultra 10 that i powered down
for 30 minutes(the box was about 6 months old). powered it
backup..never came back..disk was totally dead. wouldn't
spin at all. and with the near 2 dozen IBM disk drive failures
ive had in the past 6 months, im even more for never turning
off the system.



nate

All-In-Wonder card support?

[Stan Brown]

I'm building my wife a new Debian machien for Christmas. One of the
requiremnts is to be able to play TV. Presently I have a Win-TV card in my
Debian worksation, and have made it work, with my ATI Radeon graphics card.

I was wondering if I could us an All-In-Wonder card, to reduce total card
count on her machien?

Is this card well supported in Debina/Linux? 

-- 
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Charleston SC.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
-
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Re: X-forwarding with ssh doesn't work

[nate]

Tim Dijkstra said:

> debug1: Requesting pty.
> debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
> debug1: Requesting shell.
> debug1: Entering interactive session.
>
> Is that enough? Does anybody with X-forw working correctly gets the
> same  output?


pretty much. how bout when you start an X app?

sample output from one of my servers:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xbrup
debug1: Received X11 open request.
debug1: fd 4 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: fd 4 IS O_NONBLOCK
debug1: channel 0: new [X11 connection from my.server.name port 3106]
(here i see the X app load on my local system)


it doesn't always work. heres another attempt at forwarding
X over SSH:
nis-wa% netscape
debug1: client_input_channel_open: ctype x11 rchan 2 win 4096 max 2048
debug1: client_request_x11: request from 192.168.50.17 50121
debug1: fd 7 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: fd 7 IS O_NONBLOCK
debug1: channel 1: new [x11]
debug1: confirm x11
debug1: X11 client supplied no authorization data.
debug1: X11 auth rejected 1 i1/o16
debug1: channel 1: read failed
debug1: channel 1: input open -> drain
debug1: channel 1: close_read
debug1: channel 1: write failed
debug1: channel 1: output open -> closed
debug1: channel 1: close_write
debug1: X11 closed 1 i2/o128
debug1: client_input_channel_open: ctype x11 rchan 3 win 4096 max 2048
debug1: client_request_x11: request from 192.168.50.17 50122
debug1: fd 8 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: fd 8 IS O_NONBLOCK
debug1: channel 2: new [x11]
debug1: confirm x11
debug1: channel 1: ibuf empty
debug1: channel 1: input drain -> closed
debug1: channel 1: send eof
debug1: channel 1: send close
debug1: channel 1: rcvd eof
debug1: X11 client supplied no authorization data.
debug1: X11 auth rejected 2 i1/o16
debug1: channel 2: read failed
debug1: channel 2: input open -> drain
debug1: channel 2: close_read
debug1: channel 2: write failed
debug1: channel 2: output open -> closed
debug1: channel 2: close_write
debug1: X11 closed 2 i2/o128
Xlib: client uses different protocol version (11) than server (0)!
Error: Can't open display: 192.168.50.17:10.0
debug1: channel 1: rcvd close
debug1: channel 1: is dead
debug1: channel_free: channel 1: status: The following connections are
open:  #0 client-session (t4 r0 i1/0 o16/0 fd 4/5)
  #1 x11 (t4 r2 i8/0 o128/0 fd 7/7)
  #2 x11 (t4 r3 i2/0 o128/0 fd 8/8)

debug1: channel 2: ibuf empty
debug1: channel 2: input drain -> closed
debug1: channel 2: send eof
debug1: channel 2: send close
debug1: channel 2: rcvd eof
Xlib: client uses different protocol version (11) than server (0)!
Error: Can't open display: 192.168.50.17:10.0
debug1: channel 2: rcvd close
debug1: channel 2: is dead
debug1: channel_free: channel 2: status: The following connections are
open:  #0 client-session (t4 r0 i1/0 o16/8 fd 4/5)
  #2 x11 (t4 r3 i8/0 o128/0 fd 8/8)


i don't know how to fix the above problem. ive also
got other errors from time to time. it depends on
the version of SSH, the OS and suprisingly enough
the app. heres a sucessful X forward on the same
host as the one above(with the errror)

nis-wa% xclock
debug1: client_input_channel_open: ctype x11 rchan 2 win 4096 max 2048
debug1: client_request_x11: request from 192.168.50.17 50148
debug1: fd 7 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: fd 7 IS O_NONBLOCK
debug1: channel 1: new [x11]
debug1: confirm x11
(and the clock shows on my screen)

nothing changed, i didnt even logout, just typed xlcock
and off i go..

ive been at a loss as to why that is for quite some time.

nate

Re: Will the Progeny graphical install process inspire our developers ?

[Jason Currey]

A GUI installer might not make install easier, but it gives first time linux 
users a much better feeling about installing the product.

I have seen a number of linux flavour comparisons and most comparisons show 
the debian installer as one of the weaknesses of a debian flavoured linux.

Re: Unable to remove mysql-server.

[Rich Puhek]

I've had similar problems before. I got around them by creating the
following /etc/init.d/mysql (or whatever...) file:

#!/bin/sh
exit 0;


That way, the removal script is happy. The same trick works for upgrades
as well.

--Rich


> Chrys wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I tried to uninstall mysql-server to compile the original binary file,
> but it looks like I have a problem :-(
> Here is what apt-get shows me:
> mobi:~# apt-get remove mysql-server
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   mysql-server
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not
> upgraded.
> 1 packages not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 1987kB will be freed.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
> (Reading database ... 23902 files and directories currently
> installed.)
> Removing mysql-server ...
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server.prerm: /etc/init.d/mysql: No such file
> or directory
> dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--remove):
>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
> chown: /usr/share/mysql: No such file or directory
> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  mysql-server
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> so I tried with the -f option, but:
> 
> mobi:~# apt-get remove -f mysql-server
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   mysql-server
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not
> upgraded.
> 1 packages not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 1987kB will be freed.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
> (Reading database ... 23902 files and directories currently
> installed.)
> Removing mysql-server ...
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server.prerm: /etc/init.d/mysql: No such file
> or directory
> dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--remove):
>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
> chown: /usr/share/mysql: No such file or directory
> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  mysql-server
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> 
> What I realy need is version 3.23, but it's still in the testing
> section.
> 
> Can you tell tell me how to install version 3.23 ?
> 
> Chrys
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 

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ETN Systems Inc. 
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Re: Unable to remove mysql-server.

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 01:53:33AM +0100, Chrys wrote:
> 
>/var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server.prerm: /etc/init.d/mysql: No such file
>or directory

You don't have a start|stop|reload file in /etc/init.d? How do you start
and stop the mysql server?
If there's a valid reason for this, just hack the above file and comment
out what it's trying to do there, and try again. 

Mike

-- 
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"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix


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Re: Will the Progeny graphical install process inspire our developers ?

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 03:49:14PM -0800, Dmitriy wrote:
> What exactly does make a GUI install easier?
> 
> It is a lot more hassle, and not much use.
> 
> I agree that installer can be made more userfriendly proably for some 
> people, but there can be a nice Curses based install.

I certainly do. I'd like to see better hardware autodetection, that's all.
I could care less about a GUI.

Mike

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Unable to remove mysql-server.

[Chrys]

Hi, 
 
I tried to uninstall mysql-server to compile the 
original binary file, but it looks like I have a problem :-(
Here is what apt-get shows me:
mobi:~# apt-get remove mysql-serverReading 
Package Lists... DoneBuilding Dependency Tree... DoneThe following 
packages will be REMOVED:  mysql-server0 packages upgraded, 0 newly 
installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.1 packages not fully installed or 
removed.Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 1987kB will be 
freed.Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y(Reading database ... 23902 files 
and directories currently installed.)Removing mysql-server 
.../var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server.prerm: /etc/init.d/mysql: No such file or 
directorydpkg: error processing mysql-server (--remove): subprocess 
pre-removal script returned error exit status 1chown: /usr/share/mysql: No 
such file or directorydpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess 
post-installation script returned error exit status 1Errors were encountered 
while processing: mysql-serverE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned 
an error code (1)
 
so I tried with the -f option, but:
 
mobi:~# apt-get remove -f mysql-serverReading 
Package Lists... DoneBuilding Dependency Tree... DoneThe following 
packages will be REMOVED:  mysql-server0 packages upgraded, 0 newly 
installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.1 packages not fully installed or 
removed.Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 1987kB will be 
freed.Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y(Reading database ... 23902 files 
and directories currently installed.)Removing mysql-server 
.../var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server.prerm: /etc/init.d/mysql: No such file or 
directorydpkg: error processing mysql-server (--remove): subprocess 
pre-removal script returned error exit status 1chown: /usr/share/mysql: No 
such file or directorydpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess 
post-installation script returned error exit status 1Errors were encountered 
while processing: mysql-serverE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned 
an error code (1)
 
 
What I realy need is version 3.23, but it's still 
in the testing section.
 
Can you tell tell me how to install version 3.23 
?
 
Chrys
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[John Hasler]

Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 15/11/2001 (16:53) :
> At one time, leaving a machine on overnight consumed less power than
> rebooting it (i.e., shutting down and powering back up wasted more
> resources than just leaving it on).  Is that still the case?

It never was.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Re: OT: Hardware upgrades

[Erik Steffl]

Bob Underwood wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 15 November 2001 04:16 pm, Erik Steffl wrote:
> > Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote:
> > >
> > > I have just upgraded my box ( unstable about 3-4 months berhind on the
> > > updates ).  The upgrade was from PII 233 BX chipset motherboard to Athlon
> > > 1800+ XP VIA KT266A motherboard. The problem seems to be the following:
> > >
> > > 1. I cannot boot off the hard drive. It will see all the partitions and
> > > system will work fine once booted from floppy/CDROM. It will install and
> > > reinstall LILO without any problems. But every time I try to boot off of
> > > HD I get there is not boot device insert bootable disk and press enter or
> > > something. If anyone has any suggestions I would truly appreciate.
> >
> >   first the obvious: check bios settings,
> >
> >   now just slightly less obvious:  make sure lilo is installed on mbr
> > (at least I think that's where it needs to be, check the docs for lilo)
> 
> my lilo is installed in /dev/hdc1.  win is on hda, as is the mbr, using a
> third-party boot manager.  per the /etc/lilo.conf file   "Specifies the boot
> device.  This is where Lilo installs its boot block.  It can be either a
> partition, or the raw device, in which case it installs in the MBR, and will
> overwrite the current MBR."

  generally yes, but in his specific case, since he doesn't have
anything bootable on mbr, he has to put lilo there.

erik

Re: G400

[John Hasler]

> I recently changed from using the unstable distribution to the stable
> one.  In the process I ended up changing from XFree86 v4 to v3.3.6.  I
> never noticed any display problems under v4, yet under v3.3.6 I've
> noticed that vertical colored lines sometimes appear when areas are
> "re-painted" within the ICA Client application.

I ran 3.3.6 on my G400 for about a year with no problems.

> Display mode under both versions was/is 24-bit color, quite high-res mode
> ("1472x1104", a custom one I set up).

I used 1280x1024 and 24 bit color.

There used to be potato debs of X v4 around.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: Will the Progeny graphical install process inspire our developers ?

[Cameron Matheson]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 03:49:14PM -0800, Dmitriy wrote:
> What exactly does make a GUI install easier?
> 
> It is a lot more hassle, and not much use.
> 
> I agree that installer can be made more userfriendly proably for some 
> people, but there can be a nice Curses based install.
> 
> I think many people on this list share this point of view :-)

Hey,

Recently Ian Murdock spoke at my local LUG, he said that he thought it would
be great if Progeny's installer was incorporated into the debian tree.

BTW I also prefer the curses installer, so I believe the graphical installer
should be on a seperate set of boot disks or something.

Cameron Matheson

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Re: emacs related

[Craig Dickson]

Jeffrin wrote:

>  Can anything  be done in  emacs to eliminate  space after a comma  or a
>  full stop ? 

Your question isn't clear. Do you just want a regex search-and-replace
to fix up a file, or are you trying to place controls on interactive
editing, or are you trying to fix up auto-formatting in some mode?

Craig

X-forwarding with ssh doesn't work

[Tim Dijkstra]

Hi,

I posted something about this problem a while ago, but I'am still stuck. 
The problem is that X-forwarding stopt working when I upgraded from 
potato to testing. I tried downgrading ssh and the x-server, but didn't 
help. I now even tried ssh-nonfree, still nothing.


OK, what is supposed to happen when I fire an X-app? Is there supposed 
to be some X-server proces running (because I do not see any), or is ssh 
just setting up some 'virtual' server? Is all data going over the same 
connection or is ssh supposed to make a new one specialy for X?


If I fire up an X-app, it just sits there in TOP, being happy, doing 
nothing. They don't complaing about non-existing displays, so something 
must be out there, but I just do not get a GUI on my desktop.


By the way I don't get any errors. When start with ssh -v, I get lots of 
harmless output which ends with:


debug1: RSA authentication accepted by server.
debug1: Requesting pty.
debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
debug1: Requesting shell.
debug1: Entering interactive session.

Is that enough? Does anybody with X-forw working correctly gets the same 
output?


Maybe some ideas where to look?

Mijn dank zal groot zijn!

Tim

Re: OT: Hardware upgrades

[Bob Underwood]

On Thursday 15 November 2001 04:16 pm, Erik Steffl wrote:
> Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote:
> > 
> > I have just upgraded my box ( unstable about 3-4 months berhind on the
> > updates ).  The upgrade was from PII 233 BX chipset motherboard to Athlon
> > 1800+ XP VIA KT266A motherboard. The problem seems to be the following:
> > 
> > 1. I cannot boot off the hard drive. It will see all the partitions and
> > system will work fine once booted from floppy/CDROM. It will install and
> > reinstall LILO without any problems. But every time I try to boot off of
> > HD I get there is not boot device insert bootable disk and press enter or
> > something. If anyone has any suggestions I would truly appreciate.
>
>   first the obvious: check bios settings,
>
>   now just slightly less obvious:  make sure lilo is installed on mbr
> (at least I think that's where it needs to be, check the docs for lilo)

my lilo is installed in /dev/hdc1.  win is on hda, as is the mbr, using a 
third-party boot manager.  per the /etc/lilo.conf file   "Specifies the boot 
device.  This is where Lilo installs its boot block.  It can be either a 
partition, or the raw device, in which case it installs in the MBR, and will 
overwrite the current MBR."

bob

Re: Making a TCP or UDP or Unux Socket Server Listen on a port

[Rich Puhek]

>From "man services":

   services is a plain ASCII file providing a mapping between
   friendly textual names for internet  services,  and  their
   underlying assigned port numbers and protocol types.

So... that file is just a way to translate between port names and
numbers, not a magic way to "make" a program listen on that port. You
are correct in that your entry would associate "a.out" with port 9889,
in that once you get the program running, a "netstat" would show "a.out"
listening on port "a.out" instead of port 9889.

When you run your server program, try running a netstat. Do you see
something on port 9889? If so, look at how the client is contacting it.
If not, your server program isn't binding to a socket. see man 2 socket,
man 7 socket, and a bunch of other man pages for further information.

--Rich


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I am having  Server Programs (for TCP,UDP,Unix Sockets) , that listen on a 
> port
> number say , 9888 at
> 10.10.1.4
> and they are being contacted by a Client (for TCP,UDP,Unix Sockets)  Linux 
> machine
> from 10.10.1.1 .
> 
> Both macines are on the LAN , nothing more nothing less . We have not yet 
> gone for
> any higher stuff like DNS , etc . So , basically  10.10.1.4
> and 10.10.1.1 are not on any Linux network , but simply they identify and 
> respond on
> the LAN.
> 
> My Clients and Server (socket  programs) do not communicate at all on this 
> network .
> 
> Please guide me on what I should do .
> 
> My line of thinking is : Add some  entry to the
> /etc/services   specifying the port , but this is what I tried and failed :-
> # At the bottom of /etc/services  :-
> tcp 9888/tcp
> a.out 9889/tcp
> 
> Please help me get these programs to communicate .
> 
> Warm regards,
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Shyam
> 

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Re: emacs related

[DvB]

"Jeffrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  Hello all
> 
>  Can anything  be done in  emacs to eliminate  space after a comma  or a
>  full stop ? 
> 

hmm... run some kind of replace-regexp maybe? Don't know how much emacs
regexps support though.
Personally, I'd probably just run it through perl -e

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ? - backups/ups

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya

> > > theres no longer a 497 day limit ..
> >
> > could someone please tell me for sure? i'm at 470 right now... :-)
> 
> Well, if it's not, you could put a sticky saying "Add 497 days to listed
> uptime" on the front.  8:o)

my 2.0.35 kernel machine rolled over a day or two ago..

have other machines that have rolled over long ago... approaching 600 days
etc... 

some interviewers do ask ... "if you are an admin... how long can you keep
your machines up and running...
- hopefully you have a good reason.. for long uptimes or
nightly shutdown ???

--- 

machines that get shut off at night ... are probably nto backed up..
i backup all machines at night...so if its off... they lose their days
worth of data ...  if they do their own backup ...multiplied by the number
of people doing their own local backup...probably to the same disks...
geez... what trouble they gonna be in when the ide disk goes bonkers

---

a car battery was good for about 15hrs. a good UPS option...
for the one system i tested to run off a car battery insted of 110v
- has +24vdc input instead of 110vac
( car battery and battery chargers are very cheap in comparson
( to "consumerized ups" 

c ya
alvin

Re: OT: Hardware upgrades

[Erik Steffl]

Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 15 November 2001 04:16 pm, Erik Steffl wrote:
> > Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote:
> > > I have just upgraded my box ( unstable about 3-4 months berhind on the
> > > updates ).  The upgrade was from PII 233 BX chipset motherboard to Athlon
> > > 1800+ XP VIA KT266A motherboard. The problem seems to be the following:
> > >
> > > 1. I cannot boot off the hard drive. It will see all the partitions and
> > > system will work fine once booted from floppy/CDROM. It will install and
> > > reinstall LILO without any problems. But every time I try to boot off of
> > > HD I get there is not boot device insert bootable disk and press enter or
> > > something. If anyone has any suggestions I would truly appreciate.
> >
> >   first the obvious: check bios settings,
> 
> What am I looking for? The major difference is that BX didn't support
> advanced ATA modes so my HD used to be ATA33 and now it is ATA66.

  that should not matter. the point is that the LILO doesn't even start
- the bios thinks that you have no bootable disk which can have
following causes:

  - booting from HD is disabled, no bootable floppy is found, bios
complains

  - there is nothing to boot on disk C - that means that your lilo is
either not installed (I guess you already checked that) or is installed
in some place where bios cannot find it. It has to be on disk C (looks
like you're using IDE disk). try to check your lilo configuration (read
man lilo.conf).

  if it still does not work post your /etc/lilo.conf

> >   now just slightly less obvious:  make sure lilo is installed on mbr
> > (at least I think that's where it needs to be, check the docs for lilo)
> 
> It is installed in MBR. I have tried to clean it out with DOS fdisk /mbr and
> reinstall and it still doesn't work. I use 'lba32' flag and stuff.

  most of the flags do not matter - the important thing is that it's not
lilo failing, it's bios failing to find anything bootable - so the only
config options that matter are the ones that determine where is lilo
installed.

> > > 2. What driver should I use for the sound card?
> >
> >   what soundcard do you have? Is it the onboard one? ac97 or something
> > like that is often found on via motherboards, there's a driver for that
> > chipset for linux (at least alsa), but the sound quality is quite poor
> > (at least that's my observation and also confirmed by other people on
> > this list)
> 
> Yes, I was talking about the internal one.

  you can probably use bios to make it look as what it is, as
soundblaster or disable it. Make sure that you enable it and then use
lspci to figure out what it is. then check kernel sound modules or alsa
to see whether the chip is supported. or post output of lspci to this
list.

erik

RE: acroread,xpdf hassle

[Glen Snyder]

On Thu, 2001-11-15 at 15:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 15-Nov-01 Glen Snyder wrote:
> > I've only seen this problem on one computer I use at work, which is
> > running potato. If I try to open a pdf with acroread, the text repeats
> > itself and then wraps over onto itself, making the document unreadable
> > (this is with any pdf file). If I try to advance to another page, it
> > locks up, crashes, or I get a segmentation fault. I've tried to purge
> > acroread and reinstall.I've also tried deleting .acrorc , but the
> > problem still reoccurs.
> > 
> > I have a vodoo3 card and a viewsonic A75f monitor if that matters...and
> > I do not have any other problems with display on other programs.
> > 
> > Another issue...I can pull up the pdf files with xpdf. Although the
> > files print ok on a ps printer, the letters all display with a dashed
> > outline that is nearly illegible. I would imagine that this is a font
> > server problem.
> > 
> > Anyway...any ideas, suggestions...or anecdotes of similar experiences
> > would be appreciated.
> 
> The following may or may not work in your case, but it solved
> a very similar-sounding problem I had with recent Acrobat Reader:
> 
> When you have opened acroread, click on the "File" button,
> then "Preferences" then "General"; then uncheck (disable)
> "Smooth Text and Images".
> 
> I don't know what the underlying explanation is, but there
> is an interaction between acroread's antialiasing algorithm
> and certain X displays (not all).
> 
> Good luck.
> Ted.
> 
> 
> E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972
> Date: 15-Nov-01   Time: 20:12:07
> -- XFMail --
> 
Thanks, that did the trick!
-Glen

Re: acroread,xpdf hassle-SOLVED

[Jesse Goerz]

On Thursday 15 November 2001 15:12, Ted Harding wrote:
> On 15-Nov-01 Glen Snyder wrote:
> > I've only seen this problem on one computer I use at work,
> > which is running potato. If I try to open a pdf with
> > acroread, the text repeats itself and then wraps over onto
> > itself, making the document unreadable (this is with any pdf
> > file). If I try to advance to another page, it locks up,
> > crashes, or I get a segmentation fault. I've tried to purge
> > acroread and reinstall.I've also tried deleting .acrorc ,
> > but the problem still reoccurs.
> >
> > I have a vodoo3 card and a viewsonic A75f monitor if that
> > matters...and I do not have any other problems with display
> > on other programs.
> >
> > Another issue...I can pull up the pdf files with xpdf.
> > Although the files print ok on a ps printer, the letters all
> > display with a dashed outline that is nearly illegible. I
> > would imagine that this is a font server problem.
> >
> > Anyway...any ideas, suggestions...or anecdotes of similar
> > experiences would be appreciated.
>
> The following may or may not work in your case, but it solved
> a very similar-sounding problem I had with recent Acrobat
> Reader:
>
> When you have opened acroread, click on the "File" button,
> then "Preferences" then "General"; then uncheck (disable)
> "Smooth Text and Images".
>
> I don't know what the underlying explanation is, but there
> is an interaction between acroread's antialiasing algorithm
> and certain X displays (not all).
>
> Good luck.
> Ted.

Hey that worked great for me!  Thanks.  I'm using the 
xserver-svga running at 24bit color and and 1280X960 resolution 
if that's relevant to anyone else.

Thanks again,
Jesse

emacs related

[Jeffrin]

 Hello all

 Can anything  be done in  emacs to eliminate  space after a comma  or a
 full stop ? 

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Re: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[JakeCatfox]

We have three Linux boxes at my school-- Dell Optiplex GL+ 5100s with Pentium 
1 processors, overclocked from 100mhz to 120 and 130mhz, 16-32 mb ram. They 
are always on (about 2 or 3 months now), and have not crashed once yet. :)

-- Deven Gallo

RE: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[nate]

Mike Dresser said:


> I had a system at a remote plant with 300+ days, running 2.2.16,
> that I finally had to pull the plug on when we sold the plant.  It
> was very tempting to take it and the attached UPS back to the
> office, to see how long it would have ran. =)

ive done that.. i moved to a new apt in august of this year,
one of my systems(p200mmx 64mb) was up for about 150 days.
it is on its own 320VA cyberpower UPS. i didn't get dsl right
away so i drove it to work(2 miles away) and plugged it into
my t1s at the office. 2-3 weeks later i got dsl and i drove it
back home and plugged it into my dsl.

Bootup: Sun Apr  1 13:26:10 2001
Linux penguin 2.2.18 #1 Sun Mar 4 00:05:05 PST 2001 i586 unknown
  3:23pm  up 228 days,  2:57,  1 user,  load average: 0.29, 0.08, 0.02

it runs web/ftp/smtp/imap/pop3. it also runs X3.3.6 in
640x480x16bit with xawtv and a hauppauge wintv pci card
decoding tv 24/7. thats the most impressive i think.
being able to decode tv for so long w/o any issues. uses
nvidia tnt 16mb pci for video to a 15" monitor in my kitchen.
some of my old customers actually use it for email
and web hosting :)

nate

Re: CDROM related

[Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy]

Shouldn't be any.

On Thursday 15 November 2001 12:33 pm, Jeffrin wrote:
>  Hello all ,
>
>  Is there any problem if a hurd related iso image  is written to a
>  CDROM using Microsoft Windows NT.

Re: screen blows up!

[Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy]

It is a stupid suggestion, but do you have any of those pesky ViewPort lines 
in your XF86Config? If yes, delete all of them, if no your fate lies the way 
of Video-Timing-HOWTO. How horrible.

On Thursday 15 November 2001 05:09 pm, Hans wrote:
> Running xvidtune is kind of difficult because I can't get to the buttons
> because of the bloated screen. Any more suggestions? --Hans
>
> At 08:30 AM 11/14/01 -0600, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
> >|-Original Message-
> >|From: Hans Fong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >|Sent: Wednesday, 14 November, 2001 05:37 AM
> >|To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >|Subject: screen blows up!
> >|
> >|
> >|Okay, it's not that bad, it's only the screen size.
> >|I'm trying to save an old Compay 75 MHz Pentium for
> >|Linux box at work. Installed Potato, X ran fine.
> >|Upgraded to Woody (testing), ran xf86config, X came
> >|up, but only left-lower quarter of the screen. I wear
> >|glasses already, so no need for a blown-up desktop.
> >|Any idea's on how to fix this?
> >|
> >|I tried a Trident and Tseng ET3000 and both have the
> >|same problem.
> >|
> >|Please CC as I'm at work. Thanks.
> >|
> >|Hans
> >
> >Greetings,
> > I had a similar problem.  I ran xvidtune to get it to look right.  Once 
> > I
> >had the settings properly record, then I modified my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
> >to include and use a custom mode:
> >
> >Section "Monitor"
> >Identifier  "Compaq QVision 172"
> >HorizSync   31.5-82
> >VertRefresh 50-110
> >Option  "DPMS"
> >Mode "Good_1024x768"
> >DotClock94.50
> >HTimings1024 1072 1168 1376
> >VTimings768  769  772  860
> >Flags   "+hsync" "+vsync"
> >EndMode
> >EndSection
> >
> >Section "Screen"
> >Identifier  "Default Screen"
> >Device  "Diamond SpeedStar A200"
> >Monitor "Compaq QVision 172"
> >DefaultDepth24
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Depth   24
> >Modes   "Good_1024x768"
> >EndSubSection
> >EndSection
> >
> >Now it works fine!
> >
> >HTH,
> >
> >Brooks

Re: Upgraded X to 4.1: Lost 1280x1024 mode

[Bill Wohler]

"Sridhar M.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 08:26:56AM -0800, FGL wrote:
>> I've just upgraded from potato to woody, including X from 3.3 to 4.1. As 
> a
>> result, I've lost the 1280x1024 mode that I've been using for years. 
>> 
> ...
> Mine is Matrox G200. I copied the modelines from the old config file.
> Still, I could not get the earlier max. resolution (in my case
> 1152x864).

  Dust the modelines. X 4.1 doesn't need them any more (yay!). Make
  sure that your VertRefresh and HorizSync lines are at the maximum
  values allowed by your monitor.

  Failing that, you may wish to move your XFConfig* files aside and
  run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" to build your config files
  from scratch (start with Simple, and move up to Medium and Advanced
  as necessary). I got the mouse's scrollwheel to work that way.
  Interesting, just read the following in the output of "dpkg --status
  xserver-xfree86":

If the mdetect and read-edid packages are present, the debconf
scripts in this package will use them to attempt automatic
configuration of your mouse and monitor.

  p.s. I've got the G200 too.

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RE: G400

[nate]

Kris Huber said:

> If anyone has an idea why my Matrox G400 output isn't always
> looking great under v3.3.6, I'd appreciate suggestions!  It's not
> too bad, but a little annoying.

i ran it under xfree 3.3.6 up until about 50 days ago,
it ran perfect. never had a single drawing issue. i don't
use citrix. i think i had it in 16bit color. citrix
may have problems in high color depths. the company i work
for now competes with them and from what i hear its one
of their weaknesses at the moment.

nate

Re: Questions on pop3 servers

[nate]

Mike Dresser said:

> I'm looking to see if there's a replacement pop3 server I can use
> that can scan the mailboxes for new mail, without having to scan
> ALL of the mailfile, as it does currently.

cyrus. courier can too but im not sure if the version thats in
potato supports pop. i was in almost the same situation
about a year ago. we were using UW IMAPD and it was dog slow
so i looked into courier and cyrus and decided on cyrus
because of pop3 support. even when loading an inbox with
5,000 messages cpu is less then 1% on the server. compared
to UW IMAPd which was 100% for ~5-10 minutes

nate

Re: Converting From Red Hat to Debian

[Stephen Gran]

Thus spake dman:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 04:58:11PM -0800, Mark Seven Smith wrote:
> 
> | ATI Rage 128 video card
> 
> [removed all other peripherals too]
> 
> | WHY I BELIEVE THE VIDEO CARD IS AT FAULT:
> | Basically, Red Hat Linux 6.1 also had this problem--I had 
> | to get RH7.1 (with the newer XFree86 stuff on it) before I 
> | could install.  I am using RH7.1 right now.
> 
> I agree with you, it sounds like you vid. card is bad.  I've installed
> RH6.2 with no problems at all on a machine at work with a Rage 128
> card.  The only problem is that I didn't get X4 working (and I know
> X3 doesn't support it well), but it is mostly used for testing anyways
> so I didn't spend any more time on it.
> 
> | It still seems *VERY ODD* that the ATI Rage 128 will not 
> | work in the lowest of text video compatibility modes.  I 
> | Suppose this is why the stupid card was foisted on me in 
> | the first place (I had gone to purchase a different card, 
> | but was given this one instead, "at a discount", and they 
> | assured me that it was "fully compatible with Linux"!)  Now 
> | I read at various places around the web, all the 
> | difficulties folks have had with the ATI Rage 128 card.
> 
> If you use the framebuffer stuff, configuring X is a piece of cake.
> For most cards you lose performance, but it works well and gives a
> nicer looking console too.
> 
> | Also, the ATI Rage 128 card is not listed in the hardware 
> | compatibility list on the Debian site.
> 
> That list may only refer to potato (X3) or it may be outdated, I don't
> know.
You might have a bad card, but it certainly works fine here - I have a
Rager 128 Pro running X4 under Woody - took some figuring out, but it
runs OpenGL pretty quick, doesn't lock up, and is generally quite a
nice card.  Don't despair just yet.
Good luck,
Steve

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CDROM related

[Jeffrin]

 Hello all ,

 Is there any problem if a hurd related iso image  is written to a
 CDROM using Microsoft Windows NT. 

-- 
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Re: no modules after upgrade to 2.4.13

[J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 02:16:39 -0600, Rory O'Connor wrote:
> I just upgraded from kernel version 2.2.19pre17 to 2.4.13 and everything
> went fine...except that it appears no modules loaded (lsmod returns
> nothing).

Hmm... are you running potato (stable)? For 2.4.x kernels you need a newer
"modutils" package than is part of potato, and possibly a few other updates
as well. Adrian Bunk maintains a set of updated packages to run 2.4.x
kernels with potato. IIRC, it can be found near
http://people.debian.org/~bunk/ .

HTH,
Ray
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Re: Way Confused about Version Numbers

[J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:22:42 +, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:
> But will Woody always be testing? Or will Woody become stable and will
> some new name be assigned to the next testing?

The latter. IIRC, the new testing tree will be named 'sarge'.

Ray
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Re: Will the Progeny graphical install process inspire our developers ?

[Dmitriy]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 02:03:23PM +0100, spear wrote:
> Hi there !
> 
> I was wondering : a few weeks ago, i contacted Steve Schaffer from Progeny,
> about the graphical installation process of the Progeny Debian, wondering if
> they would let it to our community ...
> He said yes ...
> 
> So, did anybody hear about it's amelioration, and, maybe, future integration
> in our favorite distribution ?
> 
> Even if, once you installed it many times, it seems easy, i force myself not
> to forget how lost i felt when i installed it for the first time (not very "
> inspiring " procedure when you come from Mandrake).
> 
> So, let's have the choice of installing by the old way we know (and i'll
> keep on using it), but open our Debian to a more " end user " world by
> helping people to join our community " more easily " ...
> 
> What do you think ? Does anyone know if our developers intend to put a
> graphical install one day (not criticizing, they work har, just wondering) ?
What exactly does make a GUI install easier?

It is a lot more hassle, and not much use.

I agree that installer can be made more userfriendly proably for some 
people, but there can be a nice Curses based install.

I think many people on this list share this point of view :-)
> 
> Mathias
> 
> 
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Re: using grub to install mbr on other hard drive.

[Dmitriy]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 01:39:58PM -0800, Adam Shand wrote:
> 
> hey.
> 
> i'm building a debian disk image as a linux based 802.11b access point
> (using jouni malinen's host ap mode drivers).  basically at this point it
> works but i'm trying to convert from lilo to grub because as i become
> familiar with it i like it a lot better.
> 
> this image will be batch loaded onto fujitsu stylistic 1000's (which have
> a type 3 pcmcia hard drive).  so the basic procedure will be:
> 
>  * put pcmcia drive in laptop (shows up as /dev/hde)
>  * cfdisk /dev/hde
>  * mke2fs /dev/hde1
>  * mount /dev/hde1 /mnt
>  * tar Ixvf image.tar.bz2 /mnt
>  * install mbr onto drive so it's bootable
> 
> and here's where i get stuck.  i can make it work with lilo but i can't
> figure out how to do it with grub.  can anyone point me in the right
> direction please?
See man page for grub-install(8) .

Pay special attention to  --root-directory=DIR option, since GRUB needs to put
some stuff under DIR/boot .

I hope that helps.

> 
> thanks,
> adam.
> 
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Re: Laptop install, console screen small

[Alan Shutko]

Craig Coles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In this case X is not a problem, just the tty consoles.  I can't get them to
> fill the entire screen.  I do get all 80x25, 80x34, or whatever resolution,
> just in a reduced screen size.

Either turn on display stretching in your bios, or use a framebuffer
console at the same resolution as X.

-- 
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Re: ftp behind firewall

[Rick Macdonald]

On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote:

> There should be a module named ip_masq_ftp.

Ah, thanks, this is ecatly what I needed too!

I ran "insmod ip_masq_ftp" as root from the command line and now ftp works
from my masqueraded lan.

But, what is the proper way to make this permanent so it's loaded at boot?
I'm running a woody system with 2.2.19.

Do I just add the following line to /etc/modules?

ip_masq_ftp

...RickM...

Re: HD spin down with hdparm : HD always wakes up !!!

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On 15 Nov 2001, Dominique Deleris wrote:

> Well, that's also to reduce the noise of my box... When I'm
> working, it will spin down since I intensively use the disks, but
> I want to leave it on when I'm AFK, and reduce both power
> consumption and noise.

I generally only have disks that aren't used much spin down.  If
/usr/local/games and /usr/local/mp3 are mount points, then their devices
get spun down.  Right now, I have only one big disk, so it doesn't
matter.

-- 
Baloo

RE: Laptop install, console screen small

[Brooks R. Robinson]

| In this case X is not a problem, just the tty consoles.  I can't
| get them to
| fill the entire screen.  I do get all 80x25, 80x34, or whatever
| resolution,
| just in a reduced screen size.
|
| Any ideas?

How about using frame buffer.  There was a discussion about the various
tweakages back in October about all the nasty settings, but the short idea
is to compile frame buffer support into your kernel and put a vga={hex
number go here} into your lilo.conf, run lilo, reboot, and see what
happens..

HTH,

Brooks




| > Both Laptops are DELL, this one a C600 Latitude.
| >
| > My console screens are the little screens that
| > appear with the thick black
| > boarders.  I haven't been able to get the console to
| > fill the entire laptop
| > screen.  I have installed the 'unstable' distro and
| > using the 2.4.14 kernel
| > with DRI and FrameBuffers (thought that maybe it
| > would help).
| >
| > Does anyone know how to get the console to fill the
| > screen?
| >
| > Thanks for your time,
| >
| >
| > -Craig
| >
| >
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Re: HD spin down with hdparm : HD always wakes up !!!

[Dimitri Maziuk]

* Matthew Sackman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Could I just ask, why do you want to enable spin down?
> 
> Hard discs consume the most power on start up. They also undergo the
> greatest stress when spinning up. Therefore, if your disks keep having
> to spin up, then you are actually not saving anywhere as much energy as
> you suspect, and you are also reducing the life expectancy of your
> disks.

Also, if you spin down an old disc, it may not spin back up 
again -- something about grease in the bearings solidifying
when the temperature goes down, IIRC.

Dima
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Re: nvidia drivers & kernel 2.4.14

[Peter Good]

On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:47, Kyle Girard wrote:
> Here's my info:
>
> Debian (sid)
Same

> 2.4.14 -- from .deb
>From kernel.org yourmirror/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.14.tar.gz

> Xfree86 4.1.0
Same

> Nvidia TNT
Geforce II MX

> gcc 3.0.2
Same

Not sure why you'd be getting the unresolved symbols and I'm not, someone 
else on this list might have more of an idea. Have you tried getting the 
kernel.org source and using that?

Peter.

Dell Inspiron 4100 Notebook

[Roman Beigelbeck]

Hi!

Is someone here who use a Dell Inspiron 4100 notebook under
Debian? In particular I mean XFree and the ATI Radeon Mobility
chipset. Within the XFree packages in unstable this chipset is
IMHO not supported yet. How did you get your X11 working on
this notebook under Debian? Compile XFree from the latest CVS
tree?

Bye and best wishes from Roman!

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Re: OT: Hardware upgrades

[Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy]

On Thursday 15 November 2001 04:16 pm, Erik Steffl wrote:
> Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote:
> > I have just upgraded my box ( unstable about 3-4 months berhind on the
> > updates ).  The upgrade was from PII 233 BX chipset motherboard to Athlon
> > 1800+ XP VIA KT266A motherboard. The problem seems to be the following:
> >
> > 1. I cannot boot off the hard drive. It will see all the partitions and
> > system will work fine once booted from floppy/CDROM. It will install and
> > reinstall LILO without any problems. But every time I try to boot off of
> > HD I get there is not boot device insert bootable disk and press enter or
> > something. If anyone has any suggestions I would truly appreciate.
>
>   first the obvious: check bios settings,

What am I looking for? The major difference is that BX didn't support 
advanced ATA modes so my HD used to be ATA33 and now it is ATA66.

>
>   now just slightly less obvious:  make sure lilo is installed on mbr
> (at least I think that's where it needs to be, check the docs for lilo)

It is installed in MBR. I have tried to clean it out with DOS fdisk /mbr and 
reinstall and it still doesn't work. I use 'lba32' flag and stuff.

>
> > 2. What driver should I use for the sound card?
>
>   what soundcard do you have? Is it the onboard one? ac97 or something
> like that is often found on via motherboards, there's a driver for that
> chipset for linux (at least alsa), but the sound quality is quite poor
> (at least that's my observation and also confirmed by other people on
> this list)

Yes, I was talking about the internal one.

>
>   erik

RE: screen blows up!

[Hans]

Running xvidtune is kind of difficult because I can't get to the buttons
because of the bloated screen. Any more suggestions? --Hans

At 08:30 AM 11/14/01 -0600, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
>|-Original Message-
>|From: Hans Fong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>|Sent: Wednesday, 14 November, 2001 05:37 AM
>|To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>|Subject: screen blows up!
>|
>|
>|Okay, it's not that bad, it's only the screen size.
>|I'm trying to save an old Compay 75 MHz Pentium for
>|Linux box at work. Installed Potato, X ran fine.
>|Upgraded to Woody (testing), ran xf86config, X came
>|up, but only left-lower quarter of the screen. I wear
>|glasses already, so no need for a blown-up desktop.
>|Any idea's on how to fix this?
>|
>|I tried a Trident and Tseng ET3000 and both have the
>|same problem.
>|
>|Please CC as I'm at work. Thanks.
>|
>|Hans
>
>Greetings,
>   I had a similar problem.  I ran xvidtune to get it to look right.  Once 
> I
>had the settings properly record, then I modified my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
>to include and use a custom mode:
>
>Section "Monitor"
>Identifier  "Compaq QVision 172"
>HorizSync   31.5-82
>VertRefresh 50-110
>Option  "DPMS"
>Mode "Good_1024x768"
>DotClock94.50
>HTimings1024 1072 1168 1376
>VTimings768  769  772  860
>Flags   "+hsync" "+vsync"
>EndMode
>EndSection
>
>Section "Screen"
>Identifier  "Default Screen"
>Device  "Diamond SpeedStar A200"
>Monitor "Compaq QVision 172"
>DefaultDepth24
>SubSection "Display"
>Depth   24
>Modes   "Good_1024x768"
>EndSubSection
>EndSection
>
>Now it works fine!
>
>HTH,
>
>Brooks
>

Questions on pop3 servers

[Mike Dresser]

I'm currently using ipopd, with about 90 users, each checking their mail
every 10 minutes.  /var/spool/mail is 1.3 gig currently.

Users have accounts, but are not given login access, or even their
password.  Users use netscape 4.78

I use clean_mail to clean out any email over 2 months old, every month.
This relies on a single mailfile.. I archive the old email for an
indefinite period, in case the user needs it again due to workstation
crashes, etc.

System is a Celeron 333, 128 meg ram, 13.6 Quantum KX hard drive.

As you can guess, this machine is very busy.  Bursts to 10 meg a second,
average is about a couple meg per second.

I'm looking to see if there's a replacement pop3 server I can use that can
scan the mailboxes for new mail, without having to scan ALL of the
mailfile, as it does currently.

This hard drive isn't going to last forever at 5 meg a second for 24/7.
I've gotten a couple years out of it so far, but as we bring new people
online, and more and more attachments get sent, this server is starting to
slow down more and more.

Any solution will need the same setup on mail, that I need to archive old
mail and be able to easily restore it.

Thanks,
Mike

Re: ftp behind firewall

[Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy]

There should be a module named ip_masq_ftp.

On Thursday 15 November 2001 01:00 pm, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira 
wrote:
> Hi,
>   I'm using 2.2.* series. Do you know what module I can load?
>   TIA,Paulo Henrique
> Em Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:32:00 -0500, Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> > Just load ip_conntrack_ftp module and you should be fine. That's for
> > iptables.
> >
> > On Thursday 15 November 2001 10:13 am, Paulo Henrique Baptista de
> > Oliveira
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >   I have two Debian Potato servers.
> > >   I installed a firewall machine (real IP) and behind it instaled
> > > another machine (false IP - 10.0.0.*) with ftp service (proftpd).
> > >   I redirect ftp port throught firewall and everything is working
> > > except that every ftp client have to access with passive
> >
> > directive.
> >
> > >   How to get ride of this?
> > >   TIA,Paulo Henrique

Re: HD spin down with hdparm : HD always wakes up !!!

[Dominique Deleris]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:58:37 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Sackman) said:

 Matthew> Could I just ask, why do you want to enable spin down?
 Matthew> Hard discs consume the most power on start up. They also undergo the
 Matthew> greatest stress when spinning up. Therefore, if your disks keep having
 Matthew> to spin up, then you are actually not saving anywhere as much energy 
as
 Matthew> you suspect, and you are also reducing the life expectancy of your
 Matthew> disks.

Well, that's also to reduce the noise of my box... When I'm
working, it will spin down since I intensively use the disks, but
I want to leave it on when I'm AFK, and reduce both power
consumption and noise.

Anyhow, thanks to you all for the tips...

Here's what I've done (for anybody interested):
- prefix all /var/log/... with a "-" in /etc/syslog.conf
- apt-get installed and configured noflushd

Thanks Tom :-)

Cheers,

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Re: HD spin down with hdparm : HD always wakes up !!!

[Dominique Deleris]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:58:37 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Sackman) said:

 Matthew> Could I just ask, why do you want to enable spin down?
 Matthew> Hard discs consume the most power on start up. They also undergo the
 Matthew> greatest stress when spinning up. Therefore, if your disks keep having
 Matthew> to spin up, then you are actually not saving anywhere as much energy 
as
 Matthew> you suspect, and you are also reducing the life expectancy of your
 Matthew> disks.

Well, that's also to reduce the noise of my box... When I'm
working, it will spin down since I intensively use the disks, but
I want to leave it on when I'm AFK, and reduce both power
consumption and noise.

Anyhow, thanks to you all for the tips...

Here's what I've done (for anybody interested):
- prefix all /var/log/... with a "-" in /etc/syslog.conf
- apt-get installed and configured noflushd

Thanks Tom :-)

Cheers,

-- 
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http://potatoworld.tuxfamily.org

RE: Laptop install, console screen small

[Craig Coles]

In this case X is not a problem, just the tty consoles.  I can't get them to
fill the entire screen.  I do get all 80x25, 80x34, or whatever resolution,
just in a reduced screen size.

Any ideas?


-Craig


-Original Message-
Subject: Re: Laptop install, console screen small


You can try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and
during that choose 1024x768 as the window size..  I'm
guess that you accepted the options that it provided
to you when you first did your setup.  Or you can go
in an edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and in there add the
1024x768 option.  That is the screen size that I use
on my HP Pavilion.
--- Craig Coles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have had to reinstall my laptop.  The old laptop
> had a PCMCIA bus
> failure...
> 
> Both Laptops are DELL, this one a C600 Latitude.
> 
> My console screens are the little screens that
> appear with the thick black
> boarders.  I haven't been able to get the console to
> fill the entire laptop
> screen.  I have installed the 'unstable' distro and
> using the 2.4.14 kernel
> with DRI and FrameBuffers (thought that maybe it
> would help).
> 
> Does anyone know how to get the console to fill the
> screen?
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> 
> -Craig
> 
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Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[Preben Randhol]

Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 15/11/2001 (16:53) :
> At one time, leaving a machine on overnight consumed less power than
> rebooting it (i.e., shutting down and powering back up wasted more
> resources than just leaving it on).  Is that still the case?

This cannot be right. We are not talking about planes taking off here. I
don't see how you can brun off all the watts the machine use during 16
hours outside work-time in the seconds you use to shutting down and
powering back up. Why would the machine need more power then and less
later?

Preben
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Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[Preben Randhol]

Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 15/11/2001 (13:27) :
> 
> I agree. It's not like this has to be proven any longer. Linux will
> basically run forever unless interrupted by power failure or hardware
> failure. 

Or crackers. :-(

Preben
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Re: nvidia drivers & kernel 2.4.14

[Kyle Girard]

On Thu, 2001-11-15 at 13:18, Sean wrote:
> I'm currently using the 2.4.15pre4 source from kernel.org, but this also
> worked with 2.4.14 (also from kernel.org). All I did to get my nvidia
> kernel module to work was:
> 
> apt-get install nvidia-kernel-src
> cd /usr/src/linux
> make-kpkg modules_image
> 
> This created a /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-_1.0.1541 deb,
> which I then installed via dpkg -i.
> 
> after that I did a depmod -a, and modprobe NVdriver


I used gcc 2.95.4 this time and got a little farther module
compiles/inserts fine but now when I try and start X I get the following
message

(==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xe300,0x100)
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to allocate LUT context DMA
(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***

My roomate who's running an almost identical machine except with a
geforce 2 doesn't have any problems...

Anyone have any ideas?  I'm thinking about submitting a bug to
nvidia


> 
> On a side note, I am not using gcc-3.0.2, but rather 2.95.4. The few
> times I've tried to use the gcc-3.0 compiler to compile the kernel I was
> left with very unstable kernels. So perhaps that could be part of your
> problem.
> 
> Also don't forget to install the nvidia-glx package.
> 
> Sean
> 
> On Thu, 2001-11-15 at 12:47, Kyle Girard wrote:
> > > Which 2.4.14 is it that you are using? The source direct from kernel.org? 
> > > or 
> > > the Debian package? (I'm using direct from kernel.org)
> > 
> > Here's my info:
> > 
> > Debian (sid)
> > 2.4.14 -- from .deb
> > Xfree86 4.1.0
> > Nvidia TNT
> > gcc 3.0.2
> > 
> > I can get the module to compile... but I get unresolved symbols if I use
> > the includes from  /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.14/include instead of
> > headers from /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.14/include
> > 
> > What are you gcc are you using? 
> > 
> > kyle
> > 
> > 
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Re: HD spin down with hdparm : HD always wakes up !!!

[Matthew Sackman]

Could I just ask, why do you want to enable spin down?

Hard discs consume the most power on start up. They also undergo the
greatest stress when spinning up. Therefore, if your disks keep having
to spin up, then you are actually not saving anywhere as much energy as
you suspect, and you are also reducing the life expectancy of your
disks.

Just my 2p worth.

Matthew

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:46:26PM +0100, Dominique Deleris wrote:
> Hello folks !
> 
> I am now in the process to reduce power consumption on my Woody
> box (great, isn't it?) So far I've managed to get DPMS working so
> that my monitor will go to standby mode when I'm AFK.
> 
> Now the question: I have two HD, /dev/hda and /dev/hdc that are
> mounted as follows:
> 
> Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda2  7384424   1895048   5114260  28% /
> /dev/hda3  3075536   1283008   1636296  44% /usr/local
> /dev/hdc2  3909084   2509760   1200748  68% /home
> /dev/hda1  9428928   5506328   3922600  59% /windows
> 
> At boot time I have the following commands executed:
> hdparm -S 180 /dev/hda
> hdparm -S 180 /dev/hdc
> so that my two HDs will go to sleep after 15 min.
> 
> Everything is fine with /dev/hdc (/home), but /dev/hda will
> always wake up after a few seconds of sleep !
> 
> I can't figure out what's provoking this behaviour?
> 
> Here are my running processes:
>   PID TTY  TIME CMD
> 1 ?00:00:03 init
> 2 ?00:00:00 keventd
> 3 ?00:16:15 kapm-idled
> 4 ?00:00:00 ksoftirqd_CPU0
> 5 ?00:00:00 kswapd
> 6 ?00:00:00 bdflush
> 7 ?00:00:00 kupdated
>44 ?00:00:00 khubd
>   200 ?00:00:00 syslogd
>   203 ?00:00:00 klogd
>   212 ?00:00:00 inetd
>   215 ?00:00:00 jabberd
>   218 ?00:00:00 jabberd
>   229 ?00:00:00 lpd
>   242 ?00:00:00 safe_mysqld
>   275 ?00:00:00 mysqld
>   277 ?00:00:00 mysqld
>   278 ?00:00:00 mysqld
>   288 ?00:00:00 mysqld
>   290 ?00:00:00 slapd
>   294 ?00:00:00 slapd
>   295 ?00:00:00 slapd
>   297 ?00:00:02 xfs
>   301 ?00:00:00 proftpd
>   322 ?00:00:00 gdm
>   327 ?00:00:00 gdm
>   328 ?00:04:22 XFree86
>   409 tty2 00:00:00 getty
>   410 tty3 00:00:00 getty
>   411 tty4 00:00:00 getty
>   412 tty5 00:00:00 getty
>   413 tty6 00:00:00 getty
>   421 ?00:00:00 gnome-session
>   453 ?00:00:01 xscreensaver
>   460 ?00:00:00 gnome-smproxy
>   472 ?00:00:05 sawfish
>   478 ?00:00:03 panel
>   480 ?00:00:00 gmc
>   484 ?00:00:00 gnome-name-serv
>   486 ?00:00:03 tasklist_applet
>   504 ?00:00:00 adsl-connect
>   533 ?00:00:00 pppd
>   541 ?00:00:00 pppoe
>   599 ?00:00:00 snort
>   758 ?00:00:00 run-mozilla.sh
>   763 ?00:05:39 mozilla-bin
>   765 ?00:00:00 mozilla-bin
>   766 ?00:00:01 mozilla-bin
>   767 ?00:00:00 mozilla-bin
>   769 ?00:00:00 mozilla-bin
>   837 ?00:00:00 apache
>   838 ?00:00:00 apache
>   839 ?00:00:00 apache
>   840 ?00:00:01 apache
>   841 ?00:00:00 apache
>   842 ?00:00:00 apache
>   844 ?00:00:00 apache
>   845 ?00:00:00 apache
>   846 ?00:00:00 apache
>   847 ?00:00:00 apache
>   902 ?00:00:00 sh
>   903 ?00:00:00 gnome-terminal
>   904 ?00:00:00 gnome-pty-helpe
>   905 ttyp000:00:00 bash
>   917 tty1 00:00:00 getty
>  1050 ?00:00:15 emacs
>  1051 ttyp200:00:00 gnuserv
>  1064 ttyp000:00:00 bash
>  1092 ?00:00:00 cron
>  1095 ?00:00:00 atd
>  1124 ttyp000:00:00 ps
> 
> Any idea 
> 
> Any help (really) appreciated !
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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> 
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Re: Way Confused about Version Numbers

[Quietman]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:22:42AM +, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:

> A bit off topic:
> Sid is unstable and will always be.
> But will Woody always be testing? Or will Woody become stable and will some
> new name be assigned to the next testing?
The way I understand it is that Sid is the boy next door who breaks
toys. Things get broke in the unstable branch, hence the name.

The next stable release will be Woody, and will still be called Woody,
as happened with Potato, Slink, Hamm, etc. in the past.

Cheers,
Tom

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using grub to install mbr on other hard drive.

[Adam Shand]

hey.

i'm building a debian disk image as a linux based 802.11b access point
(using jouni malinen's host ap mode drivers).  basically at this point it
works but i'm trying to convert from lilo to grub because as i become
familiar with it i like it a lot better.

this image will be batch loaded onto fujitsu stylistic 1000's (which have
a type 3 pcmcia hard drive).  so the basic procedure will be:

 * put pcmcia drive in laptop (shows up as /dev/hde)
 * cfdisk /dev/hde
 * mke2fs /dev/hde1
 * mount /dev/hde1 /mnt
 * tar Ixvf image.tar.bz2 /mnt
 * install mbr onto drive so it's bootable

and here's where i get stuck.  i can make it work with lilo but i can't
figure out how to do it with grub.  can anyone point me in the right
direction please?

thanks,
adam.

Re: making lilo pretty

[Guy Geens]

> "Jason" == Jason Currey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jason> I noticed some previous emails about creating a lilo splash
Jason> screen. My question is what version of lilo do you need to be
Jason> running to add the splash screen?

The current version in testing has support for splash screens compiled
in. No need to patch anything.

The package lilo-doc has the explanation (and some sample files) of
how to set it up.

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Re: Converting From Red Hat to Debian

[Mark Seven Smith]

On Wednesday 14 November 2001 06:12 pm, Steve Kieu wrote:

> > So: isn't there a way to perhaps, "put the parts in
> > place",
> > the way they do with SlackWare?  I am almost ready
>
> Has any one tried to install debian like this:

YYS...I think that will WORK!!!  :-)  :-)  :-)

HOORAY!  I shall TRY IT!

It appears as if I will have to do some research...but 
since I have a working Linux system, I can do the 
formatting and such on the second hard drive while running 
RH7.1;

I will probably have to find out how the "edit 
/root_mount_point/etc/fstab correctly" part would be done 
for Debian (probably similar to Red Hat but I wouldn't 
presume)...

One thing I haven't tried yet, is running the Debian 
install program FROM RED HAT...perhaps it would run, 
because the video drivers for my video card are already 
running?  This is something I don't know about but it would 
be interesting to see if you could install this way, to a 
second hard drive.  I think there could be problems...

Also the install program: where is it getting its video 
driver in the first place?  Perhaps I could update it (not 
for the CD-ROM version,but for the downloaded version)?  
That is, put a new driver in the tarball or whatever, where 
the old one is?  I don't know, this is just a general idea.

The obvious solution is to buy a new video card--but I 
cannot afford it!  Oh well... :-)

Anyway, thanks!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> boot using the rescue disk set, (whatever it is but
> has tar , gzip, and file system utilities and a text
> editor)
>
> run fdisk to partition
>
> mount parttition intended to be root
>
> mount partition contaning base.tgz
>
> extract all base.tgz onto the intended root partition.
>
> edit /root_mount_point/etc/fstab correctly
>
> boot the machinne using boot floppy but root as the
> new root
>
> continue the installation process.
>
> remember install lilo manually for booting.
>
>=
>S.KIEU

Re: reiserfs (root partition) on lvm

[Guy Geens]

> "list" == list  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

list> lvm -- lvm_chr_ioctl: unknown command 4004fe0a lvm --
list> lvm_blk_ioctl: unknown command 21264

list> Any ideas on what might be causing this ?

The stock 2.4 kernel doesn't work with lvm-10. The -ac versions work
though.

Otherwise, download the lvm source (version 1.0 or later) from
www.sistina.com and patch the kernel source.

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Re: OT: Hardware upgrades

[Brian P. Flaherty]

Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have just upgraded my box ( unstable about 3-4 months berhind on the 
> updates ).  The upgrade was from PII 233 BX chipset motherboard to Athlon 
> 1800+ XP VIA KT266A motherboard. The problem seems to be the following:
> 
> 1. I cannot boot off the hard drive. It will see all the partitions and 
> system will work fine once booted from floppy/CDROM. It will install and 
> reinstall LILO without any problems. But every time I try to boot off of HD I 
> get there is not boot device insert bootable disk and press enter or 
> something. If anyone has any suggestions I would truly appreciate.

There was just something similar to this on another list I am on.  The
gentleman had his lilo.conf boot=/dev/hde5 and it should have been
/dev/hde, which another person said points to the MBR.

RE: G400

[Kris Huber]

I have a G400 and know that there is support in X v4.  In fact I believe the
support in v4 is better than in v3.3.6.

I recently changed from using the unstable distribution to the stable one.
In the process I ended up changing from XFree86 v4 to v3.3.6.  I never
noticed any display problems under v4, yet under v3.3.6 I've noticed that
vertical colored lines sometimes appear when areas are "re-painted" within
the ICA Client application.  Perhaps it is a problem related to ICA Client,
but I used the identical distribution of it under both XFree86 4 and 3.3.6
and suspect the problem lies with the video driver (which I think is part of
XFree86).  Display mode under both versions was/is 24-bit color, quite
high-res mode ("1472x1104", a custom one I set up).

If anyone has an idea why my Matrox G400 output isn't always looking great
under v3.3.6, I'd appreciate suggestions!  It's not too bad, but a little
annoying.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Allison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:54 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: G400


I have this Matrox G400 video card that's supposed to be really spiffy 
(or was, in it's day).
I'm just trying to confirm the support in X v4.

It seems that this card has taken a serious step back in basic 
performance.  I'm not talking about frames/second, the basic picture is 
kind of lame.
I have a 21" monitor and the whole thing worked great under 3.3.6 and 
even Windows (I had it installed for 3 days until I figured out I 
couldn't get all the devices to work correctly).

I'm just looking for 'similar experiences'


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Re: OT: Hardware upgrades

[Erik Steffl]

Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote:
> 
> I have just upgraded my box ( unstable about 3-4 months berhind on the
> updates ).  The upgrade was from PII 233 BX chipset motherboard to Athlon
> 1800+ XP VIA KT266A motherboard. The problem seems to be the following:
> 
> 1. I cannot boot off the hard drive. It will see all the partitions and
> system will work fine once booted from floppy/CDROM. It will install and
> reinstall LILO without any problems. But every time I try to boot off of HD I
> get there is not boot device insert bootable disk and press enter or
> something. If anyone has any suggestions I would truly appreciate.

  first the obvious: check bios settings,

  now just slightly less obvious:  make sure lilo is installed on mbr
(at least I think that's where it needs to be, check the docs for lilo)

> 2. What driver should I use for the sound card?

  what soundcard do you have? Is it the onboard one? ac97 or something
like that is often found on via motherboards, there's a driver for that
chipset for linux (at least alsa), but the sound quality is quite poor
(at least that's my observation and also confirmed by other people on
this list)

erik

Re: Annoying file access behavior

[Greg Wiley]

On Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

> I have a bit of a problem. Every time I work with big files (movies,
> converting mp3s to wavs for ripping), my system slows down to a crawl for
> some time, while it is emptying the buffers

I had a similar problem the first time I used IDE instead
of SCSI.  I was able to eradicate it (and how!) using
hdparm--particularly the dma and irq masking options.

Hope it helps.

  -=greg

Re: question about /var/log/ksymooops

[Guy Geens]

> "Steve" == Steve Kieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Steve> I just saw a lot of files inside, it takes 15Mb hard disk. My
Steve> question is, is there a automatically mechanisim to manage
Steve> those files (like logrorate for all log files)?

All files in that directory older than two days are cleaned up by
the program /sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean, called from cron.daily.

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OT: Hardware upgrades

[Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy]

I have just upgraded my box ( unstable about 3-4 months berhind on the 
updates ).  The upgrade was from PII 233 BX chipset motherboard to Athlon 
1800+ XP VIA KT266A motherboard. The problem seems to be the following:

1. I cannot boot off the hard drive. It will see all the partitions and 
system will work fine once booted from floppy/CDROM. It will install and 
reinstall LILO without any problems. But every time I try to boot off of HD I 
get there is not boot device insert bootable disk and press enter or 
something. If anyone has any suggestions I would truly appreciate.

2. What driver should I use for the sound card?

Re: Looking for a ProComm replacement

[Rick Macdonald]

On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, John Purser wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Hope this isn't too far off track.
> 
> I'm looking for a good ProComm replacement.  Necessary features would
> include:
>   Wyse50 terminal emulation
>   Decent scripting language including opening, reading, writing files
>   Script Writer/Recorder to record a session
> 
> I've looked at minicom and what little documentation I can find doesn't
> mention Wyse50 and I can't find any documentation for it's scripting
> language.
> 
> This program could run on either Linux or Windows.
> 
> I'm doing a favor for a friend and used to use ProComm to enter massive
> amounts of data into a Point of Sale system but my version of ProComm is
> Windows 95 only believe it or not.  Don't want to spend money unless I have
> to but if I do have to I want to know what other people are using out there.
> 
> Thanks and apologies again for being off track for this list.

PowerTerm might do all this (Windows only):

http://www.unipress.com/pt/

...RickM...

Re: Best choice for video card

[csj]

On Thursday 15 November 2001 13:05, Patrick McFarland wrote:
> It isnt up to the distro or desktop enviroment to what video card you
> choice. Its up to the windowing manager. I presonally recommend an
> ati raedon or raedon 8500, or any recent matrox card (450+ or 550).
> Nvidia likes to make their own versions of software often making it
> incompatible with most setups. This includes their own personal gl
> library.

Two questions: does your radeon work out-of-the-box (generic X drivers 
or nVidia-like binary modules)? Does XVideo work (for watching full 
screen videos)?

-- 
Sir Isaac Newton:
"If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."

Re: G400

[Oleksandr Moskalenko]

* Tom Allison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I have this Matrox G400 video card that's supposed to be really spiffy 
> (or was, in it's day).
> I'm just trying to confirm the support in X v4.
> 
> It seems that this card has taken a serious step back in basic 
> performance.  I'm not talking about frames/second, the basic picture is 
> kind of lame.
> I have a 21" monitor and the whole thing worked great under 3.3.6 and 
> even Windows (I had it installed for 3 days until I figured out I 
> couldn't get all the devices to work correctly).
> 
> I'm just looking for 'similar experiences'

 Hi Tom,

 I have one, but the picture is terrific and eventually I got the fps up
to the sniff as well. If it helps you can read my XF86Config-4 below. I
run 1280x960 as I think that things get way to small for my tired eyes
above that resolution, but on a 21" you do whatever ye' like.

 Alex.


# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by Dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config" at the shell prompt.)

Section "Files"
#   FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
#   FontPath"unix/:7110"# xfs-xtt true type font server

# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"GLcore"
Load"dbe"
Load"extmod"
Load"glx"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
Load"xie"
Load"bitmap"
Load"freetype"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"int10"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "Protocol"  "Standard"
Option  "AutoRepeat""500 30"
Option  "XkbKeycodes"   "xfree86"
Option  "XkbTypes"  "default"
Option  "XkbCompat" "default"
Option  "XkbGeometry"   "pc"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "microsoft"
Option  "XkbLayout" "rums(basic)"
Option  "XkbOptions""grp:toggle"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "yes"
Option  "Emulate3Timeout"   "150"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Matrox G400"
Driver  "mga"
Option  "AGPMode" "2"
#   ChipSet "mgag400"
#   BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Hitachi CM 751"
HorizSync   31-93
VertRefresh 50-160
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "Matrox G400"
Monitor "Hitachi CM 751"
DefaultDepth16
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes   "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSe

Re: kdelibs problem

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 08:47:46PM +0100, Anton Holleman wrote:
> # apt-get -f install  kdelibs3
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5  not upgraded.
> 8 packages not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B/6758kB of archives. After unpacking 5603kB will be used.
> (Reading database ... 32603 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace kdelibs3 4:2.1.2-3 (using
> .../kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement kdelibs3 ...
> Replacing files in old package konqueror ...
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb (--unpack):
>  trying to overwrite
> `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/devices/3floppy_mount.png', which is
> also in package kdebase

Already reported bug. 'dpkg -i --force-overwrite
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb' will work around
it.

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 02:11:42PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 06:29:51PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > The HP-UX systems on which I've upgraded kernels all required reboots.
> > They can tweak certain parameters without (as far as I can tell)
> > recompiling the whole kernel, though, which may be what you're
> > remembering.
> 
> This functionality in HP-UX is essentially the same as changing stuff
> in /proc on a linux system.

Indeed, and it's substantially more awkward at that.

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: abiword coughs on libexpat.so.0

[elawson]

- Original Message -
From: csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian User 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: abiword coughs on libexpat.so.0


> Sounds like he needs to upgrade abiword ;-)  Self-built (from the
> Debian source) 0.9.4.1 here. The feature I like best about this release
> is the functional style editing dialog.

I just used the unstable branch to get latest Abiword and Mozilla for my
woody machines.

Worked without a hitch on three computers. Just apt-get install abiword
mozilla to do the trick here.

Ed Lawson

RE: acroread,xpdf hassle

[Ted Harding]

On 15-Nov-01 Glen Snyder wrote:
> I've only seen this problem on one computer I use at work, which is
> running potato. If I try to open a pdf with acroread, the text repeats
> itself and then wraps over onto itself, making the document unreadable
> (this is with any pdf file). If I try to advance to another page, it
> locks up, crashes, or I get a segmentation fault. I've tried to purge
> acroread and reinstall.I've also tried deleting .acrorc , but the
> problem still reoccurs.
> 
> I have a vodoo3 card and a viewsonic A75f monitor if that matters...and
> I do not have any other problems with display on other programs.
> 
> Another issue...I can pull up the pdf files with xpdf. Although the
> files print ok on a ps printer, the letters all display with a dashed
> outline that is nearly illegible. I would imagine that this is a font
> server problem.
> 
> Anyway...any ideas, suggestions...or anecdotes of similar experiences
> would be appreciated.

The following may or may not work in your case, but it solved
a very similar-sounding problem I had with recent Acrobat Reader:

When you have opened acroread, click on the "File" button,
then "Preferences" then "General"; then uncheck (disable)
"Smooth Text and Images".

I don't know what the underlying explanation is, but there
is an interaction between acroread's antialiasing algorithm
and certain X displays (not all).

Good luck.
Ted.


E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972
Date: 15-Nov-01   Time: 20:12:07
-- XFMail --

anjuta & aclocal problem

[Mirek Dobsicek]

Hi, I've install Anjuta(0.1.7) , glade and glade-- on my woody box
but there are some errors when I try to create a Gnome project in it.

When a project is beeing created, it tells me this:
>>
Warning: I'm going to run 'cnfigure' with no arguments
'./autogen.sh' command line.

processing.
deletefiles is macros/gnome-gettext.m4
aclocal: configure.in 21: macro 'AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library
aclocal: configure.in 21: macro 'AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library
Running aclocal -l macros ...

Error: aclocal failed. This may mean that you have not
installed all of the packages you nedd, or you may nee to
set ACLOCAL_FLAGS to include " -l $prefix/share/aclocal"
for the prefix where you insalled the packages whose
macros were not found.
Autogereration completed  Unsuccessful.

>>
if I look at echo $ACLOCAL_FLAGS in bash, it's empty
if I look at /usr/local/share/aclocal there is one file called sdl.m4

What I need to set or install?

Regards, Mirek Dobsicek

Looking for a ProComm replacement

[John Purser]

Hello,

Hope this isn't too far off track.

I'm looking for a good ProComm replacement.  Necessary features would
include:
Wyse50 terminal emulation
Decent scripting language including opening, reading, writing files
Script Writer/Recorder to record a session

I've looked at minicom and what little documentation I can find doesn't
mention Wyse50 and I can't find any documentation for it's scripting
language.

This program could run on either Linux or Windows.

I'm doing a favor for a friend and used to use ProComm to enter massive
amounts of data into a Point of Sale system but my version of ProComm is
Windows 95 only believe it or not.  Don't want to spend money unless I have
to but if I do have to I want to know what other people are using out there.

Thanks and apologies again for being off track for this list.

John Purser

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[Nathan E Norman]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 06:29:51PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:29:37AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [on-the-fly kernel upgrades]
> > > Not as far as I know. It's rather difficult in a monolithic kernel (QNX
> > > is a microkernel).
> > 
> > For some reason, I'm thinking HP-UX can do this... or am I totally off
> > my rocker?
> 
> The HP-UX systems on which I've upgraded kernels all required reboots.
> They can tweak certain parameters without (as far as I can tell)
> recompiling the whole kernel, though, which may be what you're
> remembering.

This functionality in HP-UX is essentially the same as changing stuff
in /proc on a linux system.

-- 
Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better
Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |   -- Patton


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