Re: postgres 7.1 -> 7.2 ... sigh

[Oliver Elphick]

On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 03:17, Andreas Goesele wrote:
...
> You are now connected to database template1 as user postgres.
> CREATE DATABASE "accounts" WITH TEMPLATE = template0 ENCODING = 'LATIN1';
> ERROR:  CREATE DATABASE: database "accounts" already exists
> You are now connected to database accounts as user postgres.
> \connect: FATAL 1:  IDENT authentication failed for user "user"
> 
> What I then did was to delete the lines 
> 
> DELETE FROM pg_shadow WHERE usesysid <> (SELECT datdba FROM pg_database WHERE 
> datname = 'template0');
> 
> CREATE USER "user" WITH SYSID 2 CREATEDB CREATEUSER;
> 
> DELETE FROM pg_group;
> 
> from db.out, delete every line with just "\connect postgres", remove
> for every "\connect ... postgres" the "postgres" and finally run
> 
> psql -e template1 < db.out
> 
> again as user.
> 
> This gave me my databases back, but I'm sure that wasn't the right way
> to do it, and maybe there are some security problems involved.

The right way is any way that works!  There should be no security
implication if all the databases have ended up owned by the correct
user.  You will probably have ended up with some system tables owned by
"user" rather than by postgres, but I don't think that will be a
problem...(probably!)

> Any comments? What would have been the right way?

What the postinst script does is to rewrite pg_hba.conf to allow all
access from localhost while it is doing the reinstallation of the
databases.  (It reduces the security risk by changing the listening port
at the same time.)

The "right way" would have been to set "local all trust" in pg_hba.conf
while you were doing the reinstallation.  That would have saved you a
bit of time.

I am interested to know how the original problem arose.  Did you at some
stage manage to insert a duplicate sysid into the user list?  Or did you
specify sysid 1 for "user" at the time when postgresql installation used
to use the postgres unix uid by default?
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Local mail delivery gone

[Steve Cooper]

Hello,

I have a working stand-alone Debian Unstable system with a DSL
internet connection.  It happily receives email from my ISP's POP
server using getmail.  I have no problem sending mail with postfix,
configured for a smarthost.  What doesn't work, and hasn't for a while
is local mail delivery.

Mail I send to myself, or that gets automatically sent by installation
scripts, goes into the "bit bucket".  Nothing ever gets appended to
/var/spool/mail/.  Note that I have getmail dumping emails right
into my user directory hierarchy.  So it doesn't touch
/var/spool/mail/.

I have studied the postix FAQ.  I assume postfix can be configured for
both local and smarthost delivery, or am I mistaken?

I'd appreciate any hints.

Thanks!
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Funny things during upgrade: postgresql and python

[Frederic Schutz]

Hi,

I had a few dependancies problem when upgrading from postgresql 2.1.4 (I
think) to 2.2.1: postgresql-clients 2.2.1 conflicts with postgresql 2.1.4,
and apt-get decided to remove the old postgresql, instead of upgrading it
along with the other packages, which would have eliminated all the
conflicts. Is it really the expected behaviour ?

Anyway, I let apt-get remove postgresql, and reinstalled the new version
manually afterwards:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get install postgresql
>Reading Package Lists... Done
>Building Dependency Tree... Done
>The following extra packages will be installed:
>  python python2.1 
>The following packages will be REMOVED:
>  lyx python-base 
>The following NEW packages will be installed:
>  postgresql python python2.1 
>0 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
>Need to get 0B/3166kB of archives. After unpacking 8664kB will be freed.
>Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 

The strange part here is the fact that lyx has to be removed. I had a look
at the packages dependancies, and I guess that what happens is:

  - since postgresql depends on python, python will be installed
(and python2.1 at the same time)
  - since python conflicts with python-base, python-base will be removed.
  - but python-base provides "python", and lyx depends on python, so
lyx has to be removed !

So it looks like apt-get doesn't notice that a real package called python
is going to be installed, and that there is no need for removing lyx. Is it
the way it works ? It is really what is expected or is it a bug ?

Following these messages, I finally continued the installation and
reinstalled lyx later, without any problem.

Thanks in advance for any information !

Frédéric


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CUPS prints blank pages at the end of jobs

[Tom Cook]

Hi,

I have quickly googled this problem and can't find anything, so...

I am using CUPS to print to a netware printer.  Everything works
beautifully except that at the end of each job a blank page is
printed, which I just stuff back into the paper tray.

I don't have a non-netware printer handy that I can compare with.  The
netware printer I am using is an HP LaserJet 4000 TN, and I am using
the HP LaserJet 4000, Foomatic + Postscript driver.  The problem also
occurs if I use the 4050 Foomatic + Postscript driver.

Does anyone know why this happens?

Tom
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gcc howto

[Sherab Puntsok]

Hi,
   My aim is to have a Debian system running gcc 3.0.4 and libc6 2.2.5
with kernel 2.4.18. (Was running potato r0 gcc 2.95.2 libc 2.1.3)
   First I've done the update by apt-get. Then I have manually compiled 
(against libc6-2.1.3) and installed gcc 3.0.4 with default directory 
(--prefix=/usr/local) and meet the requirements for a 2.4.18 kernel.
Kernel was then upgraded to 2.4.18 
   Now I also compile and installed glibc-2.2.5 from tarball and installed by 
make install which puts them to /usr/local/lib and run ldconfig.
   
   When I try to re-compile gcc 3.0.4 against libc6 2.2.5, gcc refuses to 
run. How to get them work together ?

   Thanks.
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Re: Shape shifting reptilians are about to achieve complete control over this planet

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Elizabeth Barham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > You know this isn't really as off topic as it sounds. The question
> > we should be asking is "Can they code???" .
> > 
> > If so .. Welcome to Debian ;-)
> 
> I just made a brief glimpse at David Icke's website and Reptillian
> Agenda's site and it involves dinosaurs (or lizard creatures) and
> possibly something about dinosaurs/lizard-creatures living under the
> earth. It's a little UFO-oriented type of stuff and in general I steer
> away from this type of thing, but...
> 
> Revelation 17
> 
> 8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out
>   of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth
>   whose names have not been written in the book of life from the
>   creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast,
>   because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.
> 
> It's my opinion that the beast is a dinosaur.

I am extremely reluctant to offer an opinion on the meaning of most
things in Revelation, but I doubt very much that it is a dinosaur.
There are enough other references to the beast in that book to warrant
a more symbolic interpretation of 'beast', I think.

But this *wa* off topic.

Tom
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Re: Problem installing SMC 8013wc NIC

[rh . ccm]

Ok, David -- hope you're still listening.  Here's what I found.  On the
question of what is in /etc/networks (plural):  Actually, the file is not
there, and nowhere to be found -- at lease not where I was looking.

As for your suggestion below, you said that the 'interfaces' file needed
something for the ethernet card.  Would adding the appropriate
information to that file, similar to your example below, enable the card
to work?  Thank you for your efforts. 

Still trying,
Randy

On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:41:54 -0700 (PDT) David Smead
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On the last questions you forgot the plural of network.
> 
> In /etc/network/interfaces you need something for your ethernet 
> card. i.e.
> 
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.8.30
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> network 192.168.8.0
> broadcast 192.168.8.255
> gateway 192.168.8.254
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> 
> David Smead
> http://www.amplepower.com.
> 
> On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Second reply to David - now answering last 3 questions:  Let me 
> know if
> > you have any ideas.  Thank.
> > Randy
> >
> > >
> > > I'm doing some guessing, but often that works.
> > >
> > > How do you know that modprobe didn't find the card and install 
> the
> > > correct
> > > driver?
> > As mentioned before, 'Install failed' message and when going to
> > 'Configure network' step, it says, "No network interfaces found".
> >
> >
> > > What does ifconfig tell you?
> >
> > ifconfig returns the following:
> > Link encap: Local Loopback
> > inet addr: 127.0.0.1  Mack: 255.0.0.0
> > Up loopback running MTU 3924 Metric:1
> > RX packets:0   Errors:0  etc. etc (everthing else=0)
> >
> >
> > > What is in /etc/modules?
> > 'Kernal modules to load at boot time'  - none showing
> >
> > > What is in /etc/network/interfaces?
> > # /etc/network/interfaces -- Configuration file for 
> ifup(8),
> > ifdown(8)
> >
> > # the loopback interface
> > iface lo inet loopback
> >
> > > And what is in /etc/networks?
> > 'interfaces'
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > David Smead
> > > http://www.amplepower.com.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone tell me if there's another way to get a network 
> card
> > > module to
> > > > install.  I sent the following post Thursday, but got no 
> response,
> > > and
> > > > I'm stuck.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to install Debian potato on an Compaq Prolinea 
> 4/50
> > > with an
> > > > SMC network card (ISA), and am having a problem.  When I go 
> to
> > > "Configure
> > > > the device driver modules" and then to the "net  --  Drivers 
> for
> > > network
> > > > interface card..." step, it won't install the modules for the
> > > network
> > > > card.
> > > >
> > > > Here's some info from the SMC card:
> > > >  the back of the card says, "8013wc"
> > > >  the FCC # is JI58013wc
> > > >  the chipset number is 83c690LJP f9411
> > > >  When I run Slackware's Net.i utility it reports:
> > > >   Eth0:  WD80x3 at 0x300   00 00 c0 f1 00 8e
> > > >   WD 8013  IRQ 10   shared memory at 0xd - 
> 0xd3fff
> > > >
> > > > So, I'm presuming this is SMC's 8013 series card.
> > > >
> > > > The modules that I have tried to install are "wd" and 
> "smc-ultra"
> > > > (actually, I've tried all the SMC modules and a few others).
> > > Also, I
> > > > have tried to add various combinations of command line 
> arguments
> > > for io,
> > > > irq, mem & mem_end, based on the above info reported by Net.i, 
> but
> > > I
> > > > still get the "Installation failed" message.  I've checked out 
> SMC
> > > web
> > > > site driver page, but can only find a text file (of code) for 
> the
> > > Linux
> > > > driver.  Maybe I'm supposed to compile this into a driver file 
> or
> > > > something -- I have no idea.
> > > >
> > > > I may have access to a number of these similarly configured
> > > Compaq
> > > > systems, and would like to try them on a Debian network of
> > > inexpensive
> > > > computers, so I am hoping to find a fix using the SMC card.  
> Any
> > > help
> > > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Randy
> > > >
> > > > 
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Re: Printing to Windows

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On 19-Apr-2002 Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > Wich print system would you suggest me to print to a Windows machine from 
> > my 
> > Debian system. Wich one is the simpliest or the one with the most features? 
> >:-)
> > 
> 
> if I understand you right you have a printer connected to a Windows machine
> physically (printer cable, USB, etc) and want to print to that printer from
> Linux.  Correct?  If so you need at a minimum samba.  This lets Linux talk to
> Windows and get shared components.  After that is configured you can use any
> standard Linux print controller -> lpr, lprng, cups, whatever.

M, cups is good.  Even prints to my netware printers.

Tom
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usbkbd.c error: led urb status -32 received

[Chris Tillman]

I keep getting this error whenever I hit my caps lock key, num lock, 
or now when I use Command-left and -right arrow to change virtual 
consoles (this is a powerpc iMac with 2.4.16-newpmac kernel). I 
have the standard iMac keyboard which is a USB keyboard, and I have
the mac-usb-us keymap selected with Linux keycodes in place.

This is a 'spam' kind of message that appears in every console 
simultaneously, no matter what application is running.

Does anyone know what I have done wrong to be getting this? BTW, AFAIK
the only LED on my keyboard is inside the Caps Lock key, and it doesn't  
seem to work when this is taking place.

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Re: Weblogic server shutdown

[Tom Cook]

On  0, shyamk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am new to Weblogic server (the practical side perhaps),
> so I do not know how to shutdown the Weblogic server from the
> text-console / command prompt.
> Please help.

I would have thought it unlikely that you will find someone here with
weblogic experience, but you might be lucky.  The last time I played
with it there was some admin command that you could give a shutdown
command to, but that was several years ago and I imagine weblogic has
developed somewhat since then.

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Re: netscape bus error

[Tom Cook]

On  0, John Habermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Do support for a community group that recycles computers installs debian and 
> gives them to low income people. One of the recipients is issues with 
> Netscape. Netscape (4.77-2) doesn't open at all and when netscape is entered 
> into an xterm he receives only a line saying "Bus error".
> Anyone have any ideas, I haven't come across this before. He is one of our 
> early recipients and has just bought a new computer 1.4 ghz athlon 256 ddr 
> memory and has got debian unstable with kde as the desktop environment, bit 
> different to potato with gnome as our desktop which is what he started with.

Different netscape versions throughout the ages have done that fairly
reliably.  Netscape 4.79 currently works well for me on a woody
system, but who knows how the innards of netscape think?

Tom
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Re: Aptitude fails to configure packages

[Ricardo Fitzgerald]

> 
> I use aptitude exclusively for my package management. Which distro of
> Debian are you using and which version of aptitude?
> 
> -Andy

I'm using Woody PPC , can't remember which aptitude version it has to
be latest because I did an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade this
morning.

Rick


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Re: Woody: "xhost +" on Local Machine not Working

[Vineet Kumar]

* Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) [020421 01:20]:
> > or doesn't allow X forwarding in it's 
> 
> That's "its".
> 
> > ssh config.
> 
> X11 forwarding effects server only.  For the client, this is

That's "affects". =)

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Re: Linux equivalent of CloneCD?

[Nuno Silva]

Hi,

the closest linux-native tool is cdrdao. However cdrdao don't have some 
usufull options like DAO+96bytes from sub-channels P-W et al...


I'm running cloneCD under wine. CloneCD version 2.* works flawlessly, 
even without windows installed. Just:


# apt-get install wine
# apt-get install winesetuptk
$ winesetup

next, next, next, ok :)

If cdrecord or cdrdao can see the burner, cloneCD will too, just 
remember to chmod 666 /dev/sg1 (666 is a dangerous number, beaware! :)


Next, install cloneCD and run it!
Next, Tools, setting, "Use winASPI32", close cloneCD and restart it.

Have fun burning with cloneCD.
Regards,
Nuno Silva

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Re: Installation, . . .but then what?

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 07:03:12PM -0700, tom poe wrote:
> Hi:  Purchased CD's, have potatoe installed up to reboot, and runlevel 2 at 
> the prompt.  Now what?  
> 
> I looked at the list of books, but didn't see anything that was targeted to 
> this newbie.  
> 
> Anyway, maybe I want to upgrade at this stage?  Any suggestions?

If you are serious newbie, forget upgrade.  Get dirty with
configurations.

Well, if you are like me, upgrade and play.  Read my reference.  There
is many hints... "Debian reference":
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/

BTW, why there is someone's name in CC?  I just replied.  Sorry.

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Re: postgres 7.1 -> 7.2 ... sigh

[Andreas Goesele]

Jason Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > CREATE USER "user" WITH SYSID 1 CREATEDB CREATEUSER;
> > ERROR:  CREATE USER: sysid 1 is already assigned
> ^^^
> 
> Sysid 1 is probably assigned to the user postgres created by the
> install. To get your data reloaded into the database try editing the
> dumped file so that 'user' is now number two or something.

Thanks! I followed you suggestion. And then:

$ psql -e template1 < db.out
You are now connected to database template1.
DELETE FROM pg_shadow WHERE usesysid <> (SELECT datdba FROM pg_database WHERE 
datname = 'template0');
DELETE 0
CREATE USER "user" WITH SYSID 2 CREATEDB CREATEUSER;
CREATE USER
DELETE FROM pg_group;
DELETE 0
You are now connected to database template1 as user postgres.
CREATE DATABASE "accounts" WITH TEMPLATE = template0 ENCODING = 'LATIN1';
ERROR:  CREATE DATABASE: database "accounts" already exists
You are now connected to database accounts as user postgres.
\connect: FATAL 1:  IDENT authentication failed for user "user"

What I then did was to delete the lines 

DELETE FROM pg_shadow WHERE usesysid <> (SELECT datdba FROM pg_database WHERE 
datname = 'template0');

CREATE USER "user" WITH SYSID 2 CREATEDB CREATEUSER;

DELETE FROM pg_group;

from db.out, delete every line with just "\connect postgres", remove
for every "\connect ... postgres" the "postgres" and finally run

psql -e template1 < db.out

again as user.

This gave me my databases back, but I'm sure that wasn't the right way
to do it, and maybe there are some security problems involved.

Any comments? What would have been the right way?

Andreas Goesele


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Installation, . . .but then what?

[tom poe]

Hi:  Purchased CD's, have potatoe installed up to reboot, and runlevel 2 at 
the prompt.  Now what?  

I looked at the list of books, but didn't see anything that was targeted to 
this newbie.  

Anyway, maybe I want to upgrade at this stage?  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Tom Poe
Reno, Nv
http://www.studioforrecording.org/
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Re: Woody / X / ATI

[Greg C. Madden]

On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 13:41, DSC Extra wrote:
> I have just installed Woody; I have picked KDE as my default
> X-server; I tried to set up with xf86config.
> Interestingly, when I try to enter X with startx, I bomb out, as X
> refuses to initialize the graphics modes that are possible,
> and instead tries to initialize all the super-high-res modes.
> 
>My card lists as a 2 MB ATI Tech. Enhanced Mach 64 Rage Pro Turbo
> AGP with DirectDraw 1.0
> 
>On Potato, I'm pretty sure I used the ATI Graphics Pro Turbo.
> That's what I tried here, and it didn't work.
> 
>However, I also seem to remember that there were a bunch of
> easier, graphically driven setup programs.
> Can anyone tell me what they are?  That might help me on the
> installation.  Or, if you know exactly what I need to do,
> please let me know.
> 
>Thanks.

 I think woody uses ver4 as the default ver of Xfree86, in which case I
don't think 'xf86config' works. For Xfree86 ver4 use 'dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-xfree86' or use 'dselect' and install Xfree86 ver 3.3.6, which
is what potato uses. KDE doesn't have much to-do with as a X-server :)
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Re: FWD: XFree 4.2.0 debs

[Shaya Potter]

I was wondering why hits on the site just started to pick up!

please remember, these are very non-production debs, and they are mostly
the product of Branden's hard work.

On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 20:07, Joey Hess wrote:
> - Forwarded message from Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> 
> From: Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 20 Apr 2002 23:10:13 -0400
> To: debian-x@lists.debian.org
> Subject: XFree 4.2.0 debs
> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 
> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= version=2.11
> 
> look at http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~spotter/x/
> 
> if people could mirror it, it be nice :)
> 
> remember, these are quick and dirty debs.  They are not production
> quality at all, I've been using them on my Thinkpad T21 w/o much issue,
> but don't yell if they break on you.  I believe you should be able to
> downgrade to 4.1.0-16 but I haven't tested that (except the xlibs stuff)
> 
> I recommend you use Branden's xlibs, as there seems to be a locale
> problem with these xlibs that causes acroread to crash, applications to
> print out warnings each time (at least in gnome) and Evolution to have
> font issues.
> 
> I downgraded (i.e. dpkg -i xlibs_*.deb xlibs-dev_*.deb) to the the
> 4.1.0-16 debs and everything seems to work fine.
> 
> XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
> (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
> Release Date: 18 January 2002
> If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
> newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
> reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
> 
> In building these I realize how much work Branden has put into them. 
> People should give him a break. :)  kudos for the great job he has
> done!.
> 
> shaya
> 
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Re: Anti-aliased fonts in Mozilla 0.9.9

[Dan Christensen]

John Krasnay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm running Debian testing and I just got Mozilla 0.9.9. The
> anti-aliasing works, but I'm trying to enable subpixel rendering. I've
> added `match edit rgba = rgb;' to my /etc/X11/XftConfig, but the
> anti-aliasing hasn't changed...it still uses grey for partial pixels.

I've got subpixel rendering working in xterm's, but I can't get either
ordinary anti-aliasing or subpixel rendering working in mozilla 0.9.9.

Can you tell me what you did to get it working for mozilla?  I edited
/etc/mozilla/prefs.js and added lines saying:

pref("font.directory.truetype.4", "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/commercial");
pref("font.directory.truetype.5", "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType");

Then I ran:

% export NS_FONT_DEBUG=400
% mozilla

and got output like:

gEnableFreeType2 = 1, nsFontMetricsGTK.cpp 940
gFreeType2Autohinted = 0, nsFontMetricsGTK.cpp 956
gFreeType2Unhinted = 0, nsFontMetricsGTK.cpp 963
gAntiAliasMinimum = 10, nsFontMetricsGTK.cpp 970
gEmbeddedBitmapMaximumHeight = 100, nsFontMetricsGTK.cpp 978
initialize freetype, nsFreeType.cpp 310
anti_alias=1, embedded_bitmap=0, AutoHinted=0, gFreeType2Unhinted = 0, 
size=24px, "Microsoft-verdana-iso8859-1", nsFreeType.cpp 624
anti_alias=1, embedded_bitmap=0, AutoHinted=0, gFreeType2Unhinted = 0, 
size=48px, "Microsoft-verdana-iso8859-1", nsFreeType.cpp 624

But no antialiasing.

Have you got subpixel rendering working in an xterm?  If not, maybe I
can give you a hand.

By the way, it seems to me that logic for the rgba setting in
XftConfig is reversed.  When I set it to bgr (I'm pretty sure my Dell
Inspiron UXGA screen is bgr, as you go left to right), a small dot is
rendered as a blue pixel to the left of a red pixel, rather than the
other way around.  Anyone else having this problem?

Dan

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FWD: XFree 4.2.0 debs

[Joey Hess]

- Forwarded message from Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

From: Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Apr 2002 23:10:13 -0400
To: debian-x@lists.debian.org
Subject: XFree 4.2.0 debs
X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= version=2.11

look at http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~spotter/x/

if people could mirror it, it be nice :)

remember, these are quick and dirty debs.  They are not production
quality at all, I've been using them on my Thinkpad T21 w/o much issue,
but don't yell if they break on you.  I believe you should be able to
downgrade to 4.1.0-16 but I haven't tested that (except the xlibs stuff)

I recommend you use Branden's xlibs, as there seems to be a locale
problem with these xlibs that causes acroread to crash, applications to
print out warnings each time (at least in gnome) and Evolution to have
font issues.

I downgraded (i.e. dpkg -i xlibs_*.deb xlibs-dev_*.deb) to the the
4.1.0-16 debs and everything seems to work fine.

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)

In building these I realize how much work Branden has put into them. 
People should give him a break. :)  kudos for the great job he has
done!.

shaya


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Re: Aptitude fails to configure packages

[Andy Saxena]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 03:38:05AM +0400, Ricardo Fitzgerald wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've doing some package installation using Aptitude and after
> downloading everything and start configuring it locks and keeps
> showing the configure message forever. After 2 hours I decide to stop
> it and retry to reconfigure using dpkg --configure --pending, but it
> shows nothing, just returns to the prompt. Is there a way to know if
> anything is actually configured, or what else I can do ?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Regards,
> Rick

I use aptitude exclusively for my package management. Which distro of
Debian are you using and which version of aptitude?

-Andy


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Woody / X / ATI

[DSC Extra]

I have just installed Woody; I have picked KDE as my default
X-server; I tried to set up with xf86config.
Interestingly, when I try to enter X with startx, I bomb out, as X
refuses to initialize the graphics modes that are possible,
and instead tries to initialize all the super-high-res modes.

   My card lists as a 2 MB ATI Tech. Enhanced Mach 64 Rage Pro Turbo
AGP with DirectDraw 1.0

   On Potato, I'm pretty sure I used the ATI Graphics Pro Turbo.
That's what I tried here, and it didn't work.

   However, I also seem to remember that there were a bunch of
easier, graphically driven setup programs.
Can anyone tell me what they are?  That might help me on the
installation.  Or, if you know exactly what I need to do,
please let me know.

   Thanks.





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Aptitude fails to configure packages

[Ricardo Fitzgerald]

Hi,

I've doing some package installation using Aptitude and after
downloading everything and start configuring it locks and keeps
showing the configure message forever. After 2 hours I decide to stop
it and retry to reconfigure using dpkg --configure --pending, but it
shows nothing, just returns to the prompt. Is there a way to know if
anything is actually configured, or what else I can do ?

TIA

Regards,
Rick


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Re: printing problem

[Mike Atamas]

I tried that and it didnt work. Same problem. 

On Sunday 21 April 2002 07:17 pm, Gary Turner wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 18:16:37 -0400, Mike Atamas wrote:
> >I set up my printer using apsfilter. I am having some trouble with it
> > though. The test page prints correctly but after I close apsfilter and
> > try to print anything it does not even attempt to send anything to my
> > printer. Can anyone help?
>
> I had those same symptoms, if not the same cause.  I don't recall now
> the how or why of it, but I can relate my cure.  Always use the -P
> switch to specify your printer.  "lpr -Pdot " rather than use
> the default.  Maybe that will help in your case.

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Re: printing problem

[Gary Turner]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 18:16:37 -0400, Mike Atamas wrote:

>I set up my printer using apsfilter. I am having some trouble with it though. 
>The test page prints correctly but after I close apsfilter and try to print 
>anything it does not even attempt to send anything to my printer.
>Can anyone help?

I had those same symptoms, if not the same cause.  I don't recall now
the how or why of it, but I can relate my cure.  Always use the -P
switch to specify your printer.  "lpr -Pdot " rather than use
the default.  Maybe that will help in your case.
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Re: apt-cache

[ben]

On Sunday 21 April 2002 03:24 pm, Satelle, StevenX wrote:
> I work in intel (contracter) but this is a machine at home. I have explicit
> instructions (read warnings) not to attempt to put a linux machine on the
> intel network. However I will be providing limited support for linux (I
> work on the helpdesk) from next week. Only machines that connect to intel
> accross the web using vpn. but its a start
>
>

rock on, steve. keep the faith.

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Re: mutt+Maildir Pros & Cons?

[Brian Nelson]

"Karsten M. Self"  writes:

> on Sun, Apr 21, 2002, Paul Mackinney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Patrick Hsieh declaimed:
> > > Hello list,
> > > 
> > > I use postfix and Maildir together.
> > > When I export MAIL=$HOME/Maildir, mutt can read the inbox.
> > > But when I send mail out, it will not backup in the $HOME/Maildir/.Sent
> > > directory. How to make it work?
> > I've been using mutt with mbox, fairly happy.
> > 
> > I understand the argument for maildir (all eggs not in one basket), 

The most important advantage is that no locking is required for
maildir.  Furthermore, operations on mail in maildirs (copying, deleted,
etc.) tend to be faster because the entire folder does not have to be
re-written as it would for mbox.

The "all eggs not in one basket" is, IMO, the weakest argument for mbox
vs. maildir.  Backups are what you use to protect against corruption,
not just keeping lots of files around.

> > are there any cons?
> 
> It's slow on opening large folders.  Discussed here in the past two
> weeks. There's a patch to build an index file for folders, not yet in
> Debian.

Of course, that's a mutt-only problem.  The general drawback to maildirs
is that they eat lots of inodes.

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RE: apt-cache

[Satelle, StevenX]

I work in intel (contracter) but this is a machine at home. I have explicit
instructions (read warnings) not to attempt to put a linux machine on the
intel network. However I will be providing limited support for linux (I work
on the helpdesk) from next week. Only machines that connect to intel accross
the web using vpn. but its a start


I see I explained myself badly with my problem, I'd created a Packages.gz
for some local debs using dpkg-scanpackages, made a typo in it and didnt
notice until after i'd aded it to sources.list and ran apt-get update and
tried to install some packages from it. Then I couldnt get rid of the
packages even after commenting out the listing from sources.list and running
apt-get update again. Then while getting the log I found out what is wrong.
My fixed Packages.gz still has the wrong path in it! I'll fix that and if I
cant fix it i'll be back!


-Original Message-
From: ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 April 2002 10:26
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt-cache


On Sunday 21 April 2002 02:18 am, Satelle, StevenX wrote:
> Does anyone know how to clear the cache for apt. I dont mean
/var/cache/apt
> I mean when I start to install some packages using dselect after making a
> mistake in the sources.list, it reads it into the cache but cant install.
> I've manualy gone in and unselected the packages put if I say install
after
> that this what i'm returned:
> Reading Package Lists...
> Building Dependency Tree...
> 59 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B/24.7MB of archives. After unpacking 73.4MB will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> Err file - a rake of package names it cant install despite saying it has
> nothing to install
>
> I cant clear this cache, I dont even know where it is getting it from.
I've
> even tried a REBOOT! any help appreciated

post the error messages. everything you've posted here doesn't indicate what

you're problem is about, and really doesn't give anyone a clue as to what
the 
actual problem is. 

apart from that, are you really at intel? is intel encouraging its employees

to run debian? alright!

ben


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Re: mouse

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Apr 21, 2002, Andre Ferreira ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

<...>

> Question is?
> What is the device and protocol for a mouse with 2 buttons and a scrool
> connected by a ps/2.

PS/2 or IMPS/2, "Intellimouse" under XF86v4.  See
/usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.mouse.gz

I'd also disable or remove GPM.

> I has tring to install X, but it faills were. There were errors in the
> istall.
> sorry for bad englihs and thacks.

There is a Portuguese-language debian-user list:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/

Peace.

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Re: mutt+Maildir Pros & Cons?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Apr 21, 2002, Paul Mackinney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Patrick Hsieh declaimed:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > I use postfix and Maildir together.
> > When I export MAIL=$HOME/Maildir, mutt can read the inbox.
> > But when I send mail out, it will not backup in the $HOME/Maildir/.Sent
> > directory. How to make it work?
> I've been using mutt with mbox, fairly happy.
> 
> I understand the argument for maildir (all eggs not in one basket), are
> there any cons?

It's slow on opening large folders.  Discussed here in the past two
weeks. There's a patch to build an index file for folders, not yet in
Debian.

Peace.

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printing problem

[Mike Atamas]

I set up my printer using apsfilter. I am having some trouble with it though. 
The test page prints correctly but after I close apsfilter and try to print 
anything it does not even attempt to send anything to my printer.
Can anyone help?
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Re: Automated spam reporting?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Apr 21, 2002, ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sunday 21 April 2002 03:16 am, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> > Are there any debianified tools to look up proper abuse contacts and
> > fire off spam reports automagically a-la spamcop?
> 
> i don't know of any debian specific tool for the job, but it sounds like 
> spamassassin might be the cure you're in need of. it used to be available, 
> allegedly, as a debian package but whenever i've tried to get it, i get 
> package unavailable messages. i haven't ascertained why. karsten is the best 
> resource for whippin' the spam vendors--next after dman, at least. hold out 
> for their response on spam vengenace methods.

With a few very strong cautionary notes, ricochet seems to be a useful
tool.  It's what I use.  I've only pissed off half my best friends with
it so far (only half kidding).

While ricochet doesn't _identify_ spam, it does a reasonably good job of
tattling about it in conjunction with other tools.  I use spamassassin
and a triggering level of 10 to autoreport, and manually report anything
at lower levels with a mutt hotkey (see the Ricochet README file).

The scoop:

  - It analyzes headers, and generates reports based on the hosts
reported as relays and originators.  This means you *will* send
reports to addresses associated with spoofed headers.  Responses to
this can vary from grateful to robotic to "I'm going to file a
police report on you if you send me any more mail" and repeated
calls to several other office phones [1].  Owners of mailing lists
you're associated with are likely to be less than amused at spam
reports sent their way.

  - It has several sources to query for abuse reporting information,
including a local "abuse-contacts" file, whois queries (which are
cached locally), and abuse.net lookups.  You can adjust where abuse
reports are sent for specified domains with this file.

  - It has a "skip-list".  Curiously enough it's a list of domains to
which reports won't be sent.  Useful for not yourself spamming
sources which will likely touch spam mail, but aren't directly
responsible for originating it.

***   USE THIS LIBERALLY ***   

You absolutely want to put in this file:

  - Your ISP.
  - *** ALL *** mailing lists you're on.
  - (Possibly) your employer.
  - (Possibly) major clients / accounts.
  - (Possibly) friends who're apt to send spamish mail, joke lists,
etc.

I can't overstate the importance of adding mailing lists to the skip
list.  Few lists can accomodate filtering spam.  List admins would
be overwhelmed by responses from even a small fraction of list
members to the spam that does come through.  Most will respond by
dropping subscribers who do this (or threatening same).  Even
a short-term or small number of slips can be _really_ annoying.  So
get this right, and keep the skip-list updated.

  - There's an options file.  My own settings are as follows:

AC: 1
NOSEC: 1
ABUSENET: 1
DONT_SEND: 0
DEBUG_ON: 1
GUESS: 1
INTERACTIVE: 0
BACKGROUND: 1

...which is to say -- consult the abuse-contacts list, *don't* do
secondary lookups, don't don't send (e.g.:  do send [2]), turn on
debugging logging.  I manually added a timestamp to ricochet as it
fails to note this, lines 602-604:

   # KMSelf Mon Apr  1 11:50:22 PST 2002:  Add a timestamp
   $now = localtime;
   $self->debug (1, $now);

Ricochet will also guess at response addresses (abuse@,
postmaster@), don't run interactive, and background the process
(makes it somewhat less painful when run from a mailer).




Disadvantages
-

There are several.  

First, ricochet is pretty naive.  It would be very helpful to specify
_only_ non-spoofed headers be responded to.  This is difficult to do,
but a good first approximation would seem to be using the IP of the
first mailhost not listed in the 'skip-list' file.  This would be a host
which (A) isn't generally known or trusted, and (B) has its IP being
reported by a host which likely is -- this information is likely to be
valid.  While not the source of the problem, it is certainly
contributing.  And if it's not your ISP's mailserver or a mailing list
server, it's got no business doing same.

I'd also like to see some level of memory incorporated into tools like
this, preferably at the netblock level.  This is information that's hard
to get given heterogeneity of WHOIS records, but could be useful in
identifying netblocks with notable spam problems.  Also identifying
the level of traffic from netblocks that is or isn't spam would help
guard against blocking a netblock simply because it's so large that it
will be responsible for an appreciable amount of spam.  One could argue
various ways on this, but it's simply impractical to blackhole *any*
arbitrary domain for *any* spam.

The

Re: Updating woody-isolinux.iso using rsync?

[Brian Greenfield]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 14:19:26 +0100, I
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I used wget to grab Raphaël Hertzog's woody iso last weekend
>and was going to try it out today, but I see he's released a
>new version.
>
>I've tried to update it using rsync -- I'm an rsync
>virgin:), but everything I've tried has failed. These are
>the commands I've tried:
>
>|rsync people.debian.org:~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 
>|rsync people.debian.org:/~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 
>|rsync people.debian.org::~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 
>|rsync rsync://people.debian.org:~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 
>
>Is it possible to get the update with rsync? 
>Are any of the above commands correct?
>Anyone got a mirror available? 

Reading between the lines, it appears that rsync access to
the URL above is not available. However, Chris Lawrence
wrote in MID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] to
debian.testing:

>I've updated the ISOLINUX test image as follows:
> - Updated to woody as of Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:57:19 UTC
> - Added pptp-linux
> - Added a symlink "woody-i386-1.iso"
> - Added a few records (Application ID, Publisher ID, Preparer ID)
>
>Size:   193101824 bytes
>MD5SUM: 08d438f8e8a994088aaad5b3838e69f8
>
>HTTP:  http://www.phy.olemiss.edu/debian-cd/
>RSYNC: rsync://www.phy.olemiss.edu/debian-cd/

I used 

|rsync -Pvvv rsync://www.phy.olemiss.edu/debian-cd/woody-i386-1.raw .

to get it. Although I didn't get the reduced download
advantage of rsync (I had woody.isolinux.iso before) it came
down much faster from this URL than from people.debian
(60kB/s vs 2kB/s) and I'll be able to take advantage of
rsync next time:)

If anyone's interested, I renamed the .raw to .iso and burnt
to a CDRW at 4x using EDCD. It worked beautifully. Rebooted
and can report that it seems to have worked well:)

Thanks to those who took the time to read and/or respond.
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Re: SCSI Transfer rate

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya robert

even if the disks suppose to support 40/80/160MB per sec transfers..
you seldom get close to those ratings...and sustain that transfer speed

- check if you have dma mode turned on in your bios and scsi controllers

- to do more tweeking... 
- check the length of the cables ... too many spares ??
 ( change cable )
- if one disk is a scsi2 and another disk is  a scsi3 and another
is ultra-160 than put different speed disks on different cables
- partition scheme also affects transfer speeds

- try bonnie/tiobench  for checking actual speed of disk write/reads
hdparm  for ide disks


c ya
alvin
http://www.Linux-1U.net/Disks/  ide vs scsi transfer speeds


On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Robert Webb wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
>   I have a Symbios SCSI controller built onto my MB. The bios and debian 
> on boot up report 40 MegaBit transfer rate. But further down in the 
> kern.log I noticed the following:
> 
> sym53c876-0-<0,*>: FAST-5 WIDE SCSI 10.0 MB/s (200 ns, offset 15)  SCSI
> device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 924 [4340 MB] [4.3 GB]


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SCSI Transfer rate

[Robert Webb]

Hi all,

 I have a Symbios SCSI controller built onto my MB. The bios and debian 
on boot up report 40 MegaBit transfer rate. But further down in the 
kern.log I noticed the following:


sym53c876-0-<0,*>: FAST-5 WIDE SCSI 10.0 MB/s (200 ns, offset 15)
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 924 [4340 MB] [4.3 GB]
sym53c876-0-<1,*>: FAST-5 WIDE SCSI 10.0 MB/s (200 ns, offset 15)
SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 924 [4340 MB] [4.3 GB]
sym53c876-0-<2,*>: FAST-5 WIDE SCSI 10.0 MB/s (200 ns, offset 15)
SCSI device sdc: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 8380080 [4091 MB] [4.1 GB]
sym53c876-0-<3,*>: FAST-5 WIDE SCSI 10.0 MB/s (200 ns, offset 15)
SCSI device sdd: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 8380080 [4091 MB] [4.1 GB]


which states that it is only 10 MB/s.  Is there something I need to 
change to correct this or is this normal??



Thanks,
Robert Webb



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Re: sendmail, milter, and Sendmail::Milter

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 01:35:00PM -0400, Derek J. Balling wrote:
> Is anyone using Sendmail::Milter on debian?  I understand that 
> sendmail has milter compiled in, however, if I try to install 
> libmilter-dev, it wants "sendmail-tls" as a dependency, which doesn't 
> seem to exist. (at least dselect can't seem to find it)

You'll want to update - the sendmail-tls dependency was apparently
removed in version 8.12.3-2 a week or two ago.

> Meanwhile, the Sendmail::Milter package for perl, to compile, wants 
> to point itself at the obj.* directory inside the sendmail source, 
> which obviously won't happen.

Not sure about that ...

> (PS - That will lead to another question of: Is there a threaded-perl 
> package available, or would I have to compile that from source?)

There used to be one, but it's no longer around in woody. As I
understand it, XS Perl modules aren't binary-compatible between
unthreaded and threaded Perl, which makes life rather complicated from
the point of view of packaging it. You can certainly go for your own
experimental build, though.

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na du..... ytoll

[slj_Franzi]

Hallo Du da!!

Sei mir nicht böse, wenn ich Dich hier so einfach überrumpele. - Aber ich finde 
Dich ganz nett
Ich bin, ein Maedel, das viel von Natuerlichkeit haelt.
Das gilt für mich, wie auch für meinen "Auserwaehlten"! Ich bin gern in
freier Natur, auf dem Land, und hier habe ich auch am liebsten meine erotischen 
Abenteuer.
Dabei spielt es keine grosse Rolle, ob du mich auf dem Heuboden voegelst, oder
komplett irgendwo in freier Natur vernaschst.
Ich habe Sex (fast) ueberall gern. Ich liebe es wild und ueberraschend im Stehen
von hinten gefickt zu werden, aber auch langsam und zaertlich mit viel Vorspiel.
Ich halte allerdings nichts von SM oder KV, damit waeren dann meine Grenzen 
erreicht.
Ansonsten mag ich alles, was Mann und Frau miteinander treiben koennen, und ich
stehe besonders darauf einen schon mueden Schwanz bis auf den letzten Tropfen 
auszusaugen.

So, wie machen wir das jetzt? Ganz einfach, du meldest Dich mal bei mir.
Die Sympathie entscheidet, ob wir uns treffen, und uns mal zusammen im Heu 
waelzen.

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Re: mutt+Maildir Pros & Cons?

[Paul Mackinney]

Patrick Hsieh declaimed:
> Hello list,
> 
> I use postfix and Maildir together.
> When I export MAIL=$HOME/Maildir, mutt can read the inbox.
> But when I send mail out, it will not backup in the $HOME/Maildir/.Sent
> directory. How to make it work?
I've been using mutt with mbox, fairly happy.

I understand the argument for maildir (all eggs not in one basket), are
there any cons?

Also, if I want to migrate to a maildir setup
-advice on doing it safely? 
-I gather that most muttrc commands that reference mboxes with work fine
if I replace the mbox files with maildirs with the same names. Any
gotchas?

Thanks,

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mouse

[Andre Ferreira]

Boas, estive a tentar configurar o X.
Ao instalar o software ele deu-me vários erros e ouve pacotes que não foram
instalados,
O meu problema no entanto prende-se com a instalação do ambiente gráfico.
Ao correr o config eles faz as perguntas e no final quanto tento correr o X
ele diz que não consegue abrir o device do mouse.

A pergunta é ?
qual é device do mouse. E já agora é sempre este por defeito em Unix?

Question is?
What is the device and protocol for a mouse with 2 buttons and a scrool
connected by a ps/2.
I has tring to install X, but it faills were. There were errors in the
istall.
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Re: how can I setup a network monitoring station

[Mark Roach]

On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 11:08, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> I have tested tcpdump at another smaller office where I was able to
> trace all the network traffic between the gateway and workstations all
> linked on the same small switch. However in the larger office the Bay
> 450-24T (now Nortel) managed switches we use appear to confound tcpdump
> so that only traffic between the localhost and the targeted system
> appear, even if I place a mini-hub between the tracing machine and the
> switch (which also provides the network connection to the router). 

this sounds like you are doing 
listener system->hub->switch->router 

is that correct? if so, you should probably do 

listener system->hub<-router
  |
switch


another thing you might try, allthough I wouldn't reccomend running this
for 3 days at a time, is one of the tools included with dsniff, can't
recall the name of the tool, but it floods the switch with mac addresses
to make it revert to 'hub mode.'

Hope that helps,

Mark Roach


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Re: Automated spam reporting?

[Bob Nielsen]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 03:42:30AM -0700, ben wrote:
> On Sunday 21 April 2002 03:16 am, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> > Are there any debianified tools to look up proper abuse contacts and
> > fire off spam reports automagically a-la spamcop?
> 
> i don't know of any debian specific tool for the job, but it sounds like 
> spamassassin might be the cure you're in need of. it used to be available, 
> allegedly, as a debian package but whenever i've tried to get it, i get 
> package unavailable messages. i haven't ascertained why. karsten is the best 
> resource for whippin' the spam vendors--next after dman, at least. hold out 
> for their response on spam vengenace methods.

Spamassassin is in main for both woody and sid.  I find it to be very
effective at filtering, but haven't tried its reporting features.

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Re: Linux equivalent of CloneCD?

[Mark Janssen]

On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 22:28, Troy Telford wrote:
> Is there a Linux equivalent of CloneCD?  (Meaning it can make a perfect 
> bit-per-bit copy of a CD?)

I've used cdrwin under windows, and it mostly does what clonecd does.
Under Linux I use cdrdao, afaik it'll do what cdrwin does... Raw copies
of anything :)

It even knows about cue files...

apt-get install cdrdao


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Re: Updating woody-isolinux.iso using rsync?

[Andy Saxena]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 02:19:26PM +0100, Brian Greenfield wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I used wget to grab Rapha?l Hertzog's woody iso last weekend
> and was going to try it out today, but I see he's released a
> new version.
> 
> I've tried to update it using rsync -- I'm an rsync
> virgin:), but everything I've tried has failed. These are
> the commands I've tried:
> 
> |rsync people.debian.org:~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 
> |rsync people.debian.org:/~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 
> |rsync people.debian.org::~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 
> |rsync rsync://people.debian.org:~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 
> 
> Is it possible to get the update with rsync? 
> Are any of the above commands correct?
> Anyone got a mirror available? 

I don't know of Raphael's web server, but you do know that rsync needs to
be installed on both machines.

-Andy


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Re: Linux equivalent of CloneCD?

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Jamin W. Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.04.21.2247 +0200]:
> This will work, provided that the original CD comply's to the ISO
> standard.  Things such as SafeDisc and other copy protection schemes will
> mess this up.  However, in the case of CloneCD, the copy is a bit by bit
> copy not an iso dump (which is what cdrecord provides TMK).  I too would
> be interested in a lower level copy option for these pesky CDs.

true. it would make copying audio-cds a lot easier...

but sorry, i am not aware of such a method.

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Re: Adding kernel modules after install

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 13:27, Peter Whysall wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 19:22, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2002-04-20 at 22:48, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 11:34:38PM -0400, David Jackson wrote:
> > > > All ---
[snip]

> > 
> > Related question: how do you _compile_ extra kernel modules
> > after the kernel is installed and running?
> > Say, for example, David had forgotten to choose his nic during
> > "make *config".
> 
> You could do your make (x|menu)config to select what you'd forgotten,
> then do:
> 
> # make dep clean modules modules_install

Ah.  Question, though: doesn't the "dep clean" remove _all_ of 
the object files?

Why not just "make modules modules_install"?

> Disclaimer : this has worked for me. YMMV.

Understood.

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Re: Linux equivalent of CloneCD?

[Jamin W . Collins]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:33:43 +0200
"martin f krafft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> also sprach Troy Telford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.04.21.2228 +0200]:
> > Is there a Linux equivalent of CloneCD?  (Meaning it can make a
> > perfect bit-per-bit copy of a CD?)
> 
> cdrecord -v -isosize -data /dev/cdrom

This will work, provided that the original CD comply's to the ISO
standard.  Things such as SafeDisc and other copy protection schemes will
mess this up.  However, in the case of CloneCD, the copy is a bit by bit
copy not an iso dump (which is what cdrecord provides TMK).  I too would
be interested in a lower level copy option for these pesky CDs.

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Re: Linux equivalent of CloneCD?

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Troy Telford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.04.21.2228 +0200]:
> Is there a Linux equivalent of CloneCD?  (Meaning it can make a perfect 
> bit-per-bit copy of a CD?)

cdrecord -v -isosize -data /dev/cdrom

works perfectly over here. doesn't work for audio.

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Linux equivalent of CloneCD?

[Troy Telford]

Is there a Linux equivalent of CloneCD?  (Meaning it can make a perfect 
bit-per-bit copy of a CD?)


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Re: config file for current kernel

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

Hi Kapil,

the config files of currently installed kernels can also be found in the same 
directory as the kernel images (usually /boot). Provided that you made the 
kernel using make-kpkg and dpkg -i .

HTH, Joachim

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 05:58:12AM -0700, Kapil Khosla wrote:
> Hi,
> I normally have to recompile my kernel a number of times.
> 
> Obviously , the .config file in /usr/src/linux gets overwritten and I lose my 
> old .config file. I know I can save it by a unique name but 
> is there a command/utility which I could use to know the configuration of the 
> current running kernel ?
> Thanks
> Kapil


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Re: Is kernel OSS support necessary?

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

Hi Balazs,

I have the same sound chip. I only compiled a 2.4.10 kernel with the dedicated 
modules and sound works. I think these are similar to OSS.

HTH, Joachim

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 01:54:40PM +0200, Balazs Javor wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm a bit confused about the kernel sound configuration.
> I have an on board VIA686a chip providing sound.
> There are dedicated modules for that in the 2.4.x kernels.
> If I select those will I still need the OSS module?
> 
> Many thanks for your help in advance!
> best regards,
> Balazs

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Re: Adding kernel modules after install

[Peter Whysall]

On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 21:09, David Z Maze wrote:
> Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 19:22, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> Related question: how do you _compile_ extra kernel modules
> >> after the kernel is installed and running?
> > 
> > You could do your make (x|menu)config to select what you'd
> > forgotten, then do:
> ...
> > If you're like me and have fallen under the spell of make-kpkg,
> > you'd do this:
> > 
> > make-kpkg modules
> 
> That doesn't do what you think it does at all.  Specifically,
> 'make-kpkg modules' attempts to build signed uploadable versions of
> kernel module packages that have their source unpacked under
> /usr/src/modules (or $MODULES_LOC, if that's set).  Most people will
> want to use 'make-kpkg modules-image', which doesn't sign the
> modules.  And in any case, this won't rebuild the modules that are
> built from the kernel source tree; you need to re-run 'make-kpkg
> kernel-image' for that.  (It wouldn't hurt to bump the kernel revision
> number if you do this, though that might require you to rebuild all of
> your external modules, too.)

Ah. The reason I did this is that I've got the NVIDIA and au8830 drivers
as external modules that I build with --added_modules.

One lives and learns.

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Re: using unstable package on testing?

[Vineet Kumar]

* Shawn McMahon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020420 23:26]:
> begin  Vineet Kumar quotation:
> > 
> > Yes, and actually quite painless. Create an /etc/apt/preferences file
> > with something like this in it:
> > 
> > Package: *
> > Pin: release a=testing
> > Pin-Priority: 700
> > 
> > Package: *
> > Pin: release a=unstable
> > Pin-Priority: 500
> 
> I've been wondering something about this.  Some people suggest the
> above, and others have suggested (and I am using):
> 
> Add the following to /etc/apt/apt.conf:
> 
> APT::Default-Release "testing";
> 
> It appears to do the exact same thing as the longer method proposed
> above.  What's different?

I can't give an authoritative answer. I think that they do effect the
same behavior, but setting individual numeric pins gives you greater
flexibility (i.e. you can set pins based on almost anything, like for
certain specific packages, or by main vs. non-free, etc.)

Setting Default-Release is probably the better way to go in case all you
want to do is prefer woody but be able to install from other branches.
I guess the only reason I suggested the method above is because that's
what I'm using and it's working for me. Your .sig is uncannily
applicable in this case. =)
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Re: Adding kernel modules after install

[David Z Maze]

Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 19:22, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Related question: how do you _compile_ extra kernel modules
>> after the kernel is installed and running?
> 
> You could do your make (x|menu)config to select what you'd
> forgotten, then do:
...
> If you're like me and have fallen under the spell of make-kpkg,
> you'd do this:
> 
> make-kpkg modules

That doesn't do what you think it does at all.  Specifically,
'make-kpkg modules' attempts to build signed uploadable versions of
kernel module packages that have their source unpacked under
/usr/src/modules (or $MODULES_LOC, if that's set).  Most people will
want to use 'make-kpkg modules-image', which doesn't sign the
modules.  And in any case, this won't rebuild the modules that are
built from the kernel source tree; you need to re-run 'make-kpkg
kernel-image' for that.  (It wouldn't hurt to bump the kernel revision
number if you do this, though that might require you to rebuild all of
your external modules, too.)

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Re: re-installing dpkg when dpkg is borked

[Gary Turner]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 05:46:46 -0500, Colin Watson wrote:

>On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 12:11:40AM -0500, Gary Turner wrote:
>> My dpkg is apparently broken.
snip
>> Problems:
>> 
>>  1.  I don't know what files should where.  dpkg -I can't help, it's
>> borked :-/.  Is there a config file somewhere?
>
>Depends what's going wrong. Could you post the error messages?

There are (now were) no error messages.  See my post of 4/19 "apt-get
upgrade won't" for details.

>
>>  2.  How do you install dpkg if dpkg is broken?  Since I have yet to
>> compile any packages, doing so for a critical app is not high on my list
>> of druthers.  Find a .tar.gz pkg?
>
>Yep. Get project/dpkg/dpkg-$(VERSION)_$(ARCH).nondebbin.tar.gz from your
>Debian mirror (so dpkg-1.6.15_i386.nondebbin.tar.gz etc. for potato and
>dpkg-1.9.20_i386.nondebbin.tar.gz etc. for woody/sid) and unpack it in
>the root directory.

Did and done.  Worked like a charm.  Many thanks, Colin.
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Re: config file for current kernel

[Bob Nielsen]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 05:58:12AM -0700, Kapil Khosla wrote:
> Hi,
> I normally have to recompile my kernel a number of times.
> 
> Obviously , the .config file in /usr/src/linux gets overwritten and I lose my 
> old .config file. I know I can save it by a unique name but 
> is there a command/utility which I could use to know the configuration of the 
> current running kernel ?
> Thanks
> Kapil
> 

If you have installed your kernel from a .deb (either downloaded or
self-compiled with make-kpkg), a copy of the config file will be in
/boot.

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Re: GDM under VNC

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Apr 21, 2002, Martin Rowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sunday 21 April 2002 5:38 am, hanasaki wrote:
> > How can VNC server, on Woody, be setup to drop into the GDM and/or XDM
> > login screen?  It is coming up already logged in with the id of the
> > process runing vncserver.
> >
> > Thanks,
> 
> Hanasaki
> 
> The VNC server can run from inetd bringing up a [xkg]dm login prompt
> when someone tries to connect to that port. The functionality was
> absorbed into VNC proper in 3.3.3r2, so Woody should be fine. This
> link[1] is still the best (only?) documentation on the feature found
> going through the VNC site (Contributed...Modifications and
> add-ons...iXvnc).
> 
> [1] http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~andre/extern/ixvnc.htm

Note that _w_dm is not on this list.  The Wings Display Manger has a
known bug that prevents it from being used to create an auto-launching
VNC session.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=109712

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Re: Raid 5 and recoving from a crash

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Apr 18, 2002, hanasaki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> >On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, hanasaki wrote:
> >
> >>had.  Will I have problems becuase the newer card, or other vendor's
> >>card, lays out the disks and / or data and does checksums
> >>differently?
> >
> >Yes.
> >
> >>If so, how do I mitigate this risk?
> >
> >Either use software RAID, or buy two controllers. When one fails, use
> >the other to read the disks and move the data to another storage
> >system :)
> >
> Hmm and when the 2nd controller dies?  Or if its doa when I need it?
> Loooks like software Raid and a dual cpu ::(

I think you misunderstand RAID.

What is your risk scenario?  What risks are you attempting to mitigate
via RAID?

What most RAID solutions provides you is the ability to ride through
single (or, with hot spares, multiple) disk failures, _allowing you to
schedule downtime for replacement at a time that's convenient_.
(Hot-swap systems allow you to bypass downtime).

RAID _doesn't_ guarantee data recovery from a fully hosed array.  That's
what you need backups for.

RAID _doesn't_ guarantee system availability in the event of
catastrophic failure (think fire, flood, earthquake, plane crashing into
your building, sabotage).  That's what redundancy and geographic
separation are for.

There are various risks that affect operations.  There are various
solutions that mitigate risks.  These come with both up front and
time-of-incident costs (including ease of recovery, downtime, data or
system loss, etc.).

Seems to me you've got a question/answer mismatch.

Peace.

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Re: how do I enable a plugin for mozilla?

[Greg C. Madden]

On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 13:38, andrej hocevar wrote:
> Hello,
> recently mozilla suggested (or rather, a page requested) that I
> download and install a plugin (jre131_02.xpi for some java). So a
> page opened and asked me what I wanted to do -- after clicking on
> "install" or something, I checked for the file's size with lftp --
> approximately 15M, so I decided to download it with wget by myself.
> 
> Now how do I enable it?
> 
> Thanks,
> andrej

That looks like a full java install, once you have it installed where
you want it the file & path to copy is:

/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so

This is from the ns600 dir. ~/jre1.3.1/plugin/i386/ns600$


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Re: weird font style

[Peter Whysall]

On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 20:14, Ilia Lobsanov wrote:
> What do you make of this photo? http://home.nurey.net/debian/weird_font.JPG
> 
> ilia.

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Re: howto reset dselect to currently installed packages ?

[Wayne]

On Sunday 21 April 2002 6:01 pm, you wrote:
> Hi,
> I dont know how I did it, but I now have 730 packages selected for install,
> short of going through one by one and de-selecting them, does anyone know
> how to do this another easier way?
> I did manage to find one post in the archives which was similiar though not
> the same problem.  He suggested greping the file: /var/lib/dpkg/status then
> piping through sed,  doing a sort of find / replace . I couldnt get it to
> work though so If theres anyone who can help me I will be very grateful.
> TIA.
I have fixed this myself. The answer was to use Sed to replace the 
appropriate string in the above file:

sed -e '/s install ok not-installed/ purge ok not-installed/' ./status 
./status new

useful if anyone else does the same :-)
of course you would want to back up the file before attempting and once happy 
with the results replace the original 'status file'

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Re: Adding kernel modules after install

[Peter Whysall]

On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 19:32, Pollywog wrote:
> On 2002.04.21 18:27 Peter Whysall wrote:
> 
> > You could do your make (x|menu)config to select what you'd forgotten,
> > then do:
> > 
> > # make dep clean modules modules_install
> > 
> 
> You mean:
> 
> make dep ; make clean ; make modules ; make modules_install ?

Nope. As posted, is what I meant. You can feed all the targets to make
at once.

> > Disclaimer : this has worked for me. YMMV.
> > 
> > If you're like me and have fallen under the spell of make-kpkg, you'd do
> > this:
> > 
> > make-kpkg modules
> > 
> 
> I do make-kpkg modules_image
> 
> is that wrong?

I don't think so, but that re-makes the kernel too, which is a bit
pointless if you're just adding a module for a NIC.

I don't claim (nor should you think) that I'm some kind of expert on the
kernel build process - this is just what has been observed to work for
me whilst doing what the original poster wanted, which was to add a
kernel module that had been forgotten.

Take care,

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weird font style

[Ilia Lobsanov]

What do you make of this photo? http://home.nurey.net/debian/weird_font.JPG

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Re: how do I enable a plugin for mozilla?

[craigw]

On Sun Apr 21, 2002 at 08:38:06PM -0100, andrej hocevar wrote:
> Hello,
> recently mozilla suggested (or rather, a page requested) that I
> download and install a plugin (jre131_02.xpi for some java). So a
> page opened and asked me what I wanted to do -- after clicking on
> "install" or something, I checked for the file's size with lftp --
> approximately 15M, so I decided to download it with wget by myself.
> 
> Now how do I enable it?
> 

I had a problem with the same thing. Trying the auto-install method kept
crapping out after downloading that whole thing, and then it would have
to be downloaded again. So I also used wget to download it.

what I found that worked for installing it was to start mozilla and
choose "open file" and open the xpi file that way. I ran mozilla as
root, so it would be installed in the mozilla application directory. If
you run it as user I imagine it might still work, and install to your
~/.mozilla, but maybe not.

You can probably just do this as root:

mozilla /path/to/jre131_02.xpi


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how do I enable a plugin for mozilla?

[andrej hocevar]

Hello,
recently mozilla suggested (or rather, a page requested) that I
download and install a plugin (jre131_02.xpi for some java). So a
page opened and asked me what I wanted to do -- after clicking on
"install" or something, I checked for the file's size with lftp --
approximately 15M, so I decided to download it with wget by myself.

Now how do I enable it?

Thanks,
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Re: Adding kernel modules after install

[Pollywog]

On 2002.04.21 18:27 Peter Whysall wrote:


You could do your make (x|menu)config to select what you'd forgotten,
then do:

# make dep clean modules modules_install



You mean:

make dep ; make clean ; make modules ; make modules_install ?


Disclaimer : this has worked for me. YMMV.

If you're like me and have fallen under the spell of make-kpkg, you'd do
this:

make-kpkg modules



I do make-kpkg modules_image

   is that wrong?



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Re: Adding kernel modules after install

[Peter Whysall]

On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 19:22, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-04-20 at 22:48, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 11:34:38PM -0400, David Jackson wrote:
> > > All ---
> > > Hopefully a simple question.
> > > How do I add additional kernel modules after the initial install?
> > > It seems I forgot to add the modules for my nic and ppp?
> > withour reboot:
> > use "insmod" command.  Or even better use "modprobe" command.
> > 
> > with reboot:
> > list all the "modproble" command arguments in /etc/modules
> 
> Related question: how do you _compile_ extra kernel modules
> after the kernel is installed and running?
> Say, for example, David had forgotten to choose his nic during
> "make *config".

You could do your make (x|menu)config to select what you'd forgotten,
then do:

# make dep clean modules modules_install

Disclaimer : this has worked for me. YMMV.

If you're like me and have fallen under the spell of make-kpkg, you'd do
this:

make-kpkg modules

Then you'd dpkg -r the resultant .deb file, paying close heed to all the
warnings about installing a new same-version kernel over the old one.

Again, this has worked for me. YMMV.

Take care

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Re: Adding kernel modules after install

[Ron Johnson]

On Sat, 2002-04-20 at 22:48, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 11:34:38PM -0400, David Jackson wrote:
> > All ---
> > Hopefully a simple question.
> > How do I add additional kernel modules after the initial install?
> > It seems I forgot to add the modules for my nic and ppp?
> withour reboot:
> use "insmod" command.  Or even better use "modprobe" command.
> 
> with reboot:
> list all the "modproble" command arguments in /etc/modules

Related question: how do you _compile_ extra kernel modules
after the kernel is installed and running?
Say, for example, David had forgotten to choose his nic during
"make *config".

Thanks,
Ron
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Re: Bug in xfree86-xserver setup?

[Richard Cobbe]

Lo, on Sunday, April 21, Andy Saxena did write:

> On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 01:46:31AM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> > * Sridhar M.A. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Just today when apt-get upgrade installed the new version of
> > > xfree86-xserver in testing (4.1.0-16), I could not start X. It was
> > > looking for Nvidia chipsets. This appeared strange and on checking I
> > > found that the installation script retained almost every entry in my
> > > XF86Config-4 file and strangely changed the driver entry from mga to nv.
> > > It also removed one of the font paths. Should it not retain the old
> > > entries? It was funny looking at the config file: Card identification is
> > > Matrox G200, but the driver is nv :-)
> > 
> > If anyone out there still thinks dexconf was a good idea,
> > they ought to have their head examined.

Fuel for the fire?  Probably.  What the heck; here goes anyway.

Granted, I've only just recently upgraded from potato to woody, so I
haven't been using dexconf all that long.  And, I've been reading d-u for
a while, so I've had the opportunity to go to school, so to speak, on
the folks who met dexconf just after it was released.

However, I've really not had any major problems with it.  Based on the
instructions in the file, I moved my Fonts section outside the DEBCONF
region so I could add some additional truetypes, and everything's been
fine.  I even upgraded the XServer package yesterday; no breakage at
all.  Based on some of the things that posters here have said, I did
back up my XF86Config-4 first, just in case.  According to diff, the
upgrade changed *two* things in the file:

1) It added some comments explaining the use of dpkg-reconfigure and a
   reference to the FAQ.

2) It changed my mouse device from /dev/psaux to /dev/misc/psaux.  Since
   I'd previously upgraded from 2.2 to 2.4 and devfs, this was exactly
   the Right Thing to do.  (Course, I've got the old compatibility
   symlink, so it wasn't strictly necessary, but that's beside the
   point.)

>From what I can see, dexconf is a step in the right direction (but
please read on before you start screaming about how it's screwed up your
XF86Config file).  It provides a way of setting X config options that
survives package upgrades, and it *is* optional -- you can remove your
XF86Config-4 file from dexconf's control if you so choose.  I don't
really know how it compares to other X configuration utilities, though:
before I upgraded to X 4.1, I used the same old XF86Config file I'd been
carrying around for 6 years, so I haven't had to reconfigure X from
scratch in a while.

However, while the design and intent are valid, the implementation
appears to leave some things to be desired.  First, while you can remove
XF86Config-4 from dexconf's control, it appears that this was not as
clear as it could have been early on.  Second, based on comments
elsewhere in this thread and on the list in general, there appear to be
some bugs in dexconf that get tickled during package upgrades.  While
these may mean that the program was released before it was ready for
prime time, they do not necessarily mean that the entire program was a
bad idea and should be discarded.

Intent != Implementation
Design != Implementation
(Oh, and Intent != Design as well, but that's not really my point.)

Generally, on the programs I write for a living, flaws in implementation
are best handled by submitting bug reports.  This even works well for
many design flaws, too.  IMO, complaints about the entire program being
a bad thing are only valid if its intent is wrong or if the design flaws
are irreparable.

Richard


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Mozilla slow response time

[Balazs Javor]

Hi,

Since a while Mozilla has become very sluggish in openeing
pages. When I click on something it ususally takes several
seconds to start loading the page at all.
It usually says 'Resoving whatever.com' or 'Connecting'
It can sometimes do this for 5 to 10 seconds.
Then suddenly it starts loading the page and from there it goes
quite quickly.

Now first I suspected the DNS servers of my ISP and pinging them
still often shows some packet loss, so I havn't ruled it out
completely, but I've tried dig to query the servers directly,
and that seemed instantenious...

Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this?

Many thanks for your help in advance!
best regards,
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sendmail, milter, and Sendmail::Milter

[Derek J. Balling]

Is anyone using Sendmail::Milter on debian?  I understand that 
sendmail has milter compiled in, however, if I try to install 
libmilter-dev, it wants "sendmail-tls" as a dependency, which doesn't 
seem to exist. (at least dselect can't seem to find it)


Meanwhile, the Sendmail::Milter package for perl, to compile, wants 
to point itself at the obj.* directory inside the sendmail source, 
which obviously won't happen.


Anyone have any experience getting this combo set up? I'd like to 
move my mail from my "old bastardized RH" system to my "new slick 
debian server", but can't do that til I get Sendmail::Milter working 
on that machine. :-)


D

(PS - That will lead to another question of: Is there a threaded-perl 
package available, or would I have to compile that from source?)


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Re: Potato on ALPHAstation 255: I cannot install it!

[Donald R. Spoon]

* Andreas Maresch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello!

Recently I got a Digital ALPHAstation 255. Of course, I wanted to 
install a real OS: Debian Potato for ALPHA.

I deleted the existing NT-partiton (via the BIOS) and inserted my
boot disc and the first CD.
Unfortunatly, the BIOS only seems to support NT or Win2k, since
there are several options like "Install Windows NT", "Partition 
HDD for Windows NT" and so on.

But I cannot boot from CD or floppy, nor can I tell the BIOS to do so.

Has anybody solved this problem in the past? If so, can (s)he give
me a hint how?
I  have RTFM, but there are only general topics like partitioning, 
making backups and so on.


Yours

Andreas Maresch



Setting up Linux on an Alpha is a bit different... as you are finding 
out :)  I don't have your particular model of Alpha, but perhaps I can 
get you started in the right direction.


1.  Alphas have several different "sub-architectures" defined over time. 
 This is important, because you have to use specific boot procedures 
and kernels compiled for your arch in order to make it work.  Your 
computer (AS255) is an "Avanti", I think, but you might want to check 
this out with another source.  I will be posting some useful links 
throughout this message.


2.  Alphas have two methods of initializing the computer to start the 
boot process.  The most useful, but more difficult, is called the "SRM 
Console".  This is a fairly standard way of booting genric Unix and VMS 
operating systems, BUT it is incompatable with Windows NT.  The other is 
called "AlphaBios" and was developed to allwo Win NT to boot.  Linux can 
be booted under either, but he procedures are a bit different.  I 
"think" your computer has both built-in, and if you have a choice I 
would advise you use the SRM method.  These programs are called 
"firmware", and I highly suggest you get the latest version for your 
computer from Compaq at: 
http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/readmes/astn255.html



3. Generally, if you use the SRM console, you will be able to boot off 
the CD.  If you use AlphaBios, you will need to make about 4-5 floppies 
just to boot to the CDROM-based installer!  Both methods of installing 
are well documented in the INTALLATION MANUAL (FOR THE ALPHA) at: 
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-alpha/current/doc/. 
 There are some of the sub-archs of the Alpha that won't boot under 
Alpha Bios with the current programs (like mine).  There are ways around 
this at present, but AlphaBios support is on the wane, and more problems 
seem to be cropping up over time.  SRM is the way to go!


4.  Compaq also makes a "JumpStart" CD that will take a lot of the work 
out of setting up your system to install Linux.  It may or may not work 
for you...dunno.  It is available at:
http://www.support.compaq.com/alpha-tools/software/index.html.  This is 
a good link to bookmark BTW.  It has a LOT of other useful "free" 
software for the Alpha form Compaq that you might be interested in later.


5.  Along with the above links, I would recommend the following:

http://www.linuxalpha.org/ (Lots of links and info here)
http://lists.debian.org/ports.html (Debian-Alpha Mailing List)

Hope this helps!

Cheers,
-Don Spoon-



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kernel build error 2.4.18

[Jaye Inabnit ke6sls]

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Greetings:

I am attempting to build a kernel for a slow box that has an sis chipset 
mainboard.  I keep getting this error, and I am at a loss for what I need to 
do to get the kernel to compile.  Any help greatly appreciated.

thank you

drivers/char/drm/drm.o: In function `sis_fb_alloc':
drivers/char/drm/drm.o(.text+0x63c5): undefined reference to `sis_malloc'
drivers/char/drm/drm.o(.text+0x640a): undefined reference to `sis_free'
drivers/char/drm/drm.o: In function `sis_fb_free':
drivers/char/drm/drm.o(.text+0x6502): undefined reference to `sis_free'
drivers/char/drm/drm.o: In function `sis_final_context':
drivers/char/drm/drm.o(.text+0x6955): undefined reference to `sis_free'
make[1]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18'
make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2
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howto reset dselect to currently installed packages ?

[Wayne]

Hi,
I dont know how I did it, but I now have 730 packages selected for install, 
short of going through one by one and de-selecting them, does anyone know how 
to do this another easier way?
I did manage to find one post in the archives which was similiar though not 
the same problem.  He suggested greping the file: /var/lib/dpkg/status then 
piping through sed,  doing a sort of find / replace . I couldnt get it to 
work though so If theres anyone who can help me I will be very grateful.
TIA.
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Re: Setting up ntl cable modem/DHCP?

[Andy Saxena]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 10:41:18AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi
> The DHCP client software I am using is chcp3-client v3.0+3.0.1r when I
> run the ?dhclient? command I get the following:
> 
> Listening on LPF/eth0/00:80:5f:c1:55:40
> Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:80:5f:c1:55:40
> Listening on LPF/lo/
> Sending on   LPF/lo/
> Sending on   Socket/fallback
> DHCPDISCOVER on lo to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
> DHCPDISCOVER on lo to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
> DHCPDISCOVER on lo to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
> DHCPDISCOVER on lo to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 21
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9
> DHCPDISCOVER on lo to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
> DHCPDISCOVER on lo to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
> No DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
> 

And what does your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf say?

-Andy


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Re: DHCP/BOOTP

[Andy Saxena]

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 10:38:02PM -0700, Alexis Georges wrote:
> Hello
> I just got back to using Debian..I'll just tell you what the problem is :
> i boot normally from the cd's and start the installation process; i choose  
> the right drivers and modules..when i get the Configure Network, i enter my 
> host name and then i choose to configure with DHCP/BOOTP. This gives me an 
> error right away.. i remember when i used Debian a while ago, doing this 

And the error message is?

-Andy


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Re: Bug in xfree86-xserver setup?

[Andy Saxena]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 07:21:05AM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just today when apt-get upgrade installed the new version of
> xfree86-xserver in testing (4.1.0-16), I could not start X. It was
> looking for Nvidia chipsets. This appeared strange and on checking I
> found that the installation script retained almost every entry in my
> XF86Config-4 file and strangely changed the driver entry from mga to nv.
> It also removed one of the font paths. Should it not retain the old
> entries? It was funny looking at the config file: Card identification is
> Matrox G200, but the driver is nv :-)

Oh, you think the XF86Config-4 makes you smile? See what I have in mine:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Logitech Wireless"
HorizSync   30-70
VertRefresh 50-120
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

I do use a "Logitech Wireless" kbd and mouse.

-Andy


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Re: Bug in xfree86-xserver setup?

[Andy Saxena]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 01:46:31AM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> * Sridhar M.A. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Just today when apt-get upgrade installed the new version of
> > xfree86-xserver in testing (4.1.0-16), I could not start X. It was
> > looking for Nvidia chipsets. This appeared strange and on checking I
> > found that the installation script retained almost every entry in my
> > XF86Config-4 file and strangely changed the driver entry from mga to nv.
> > It also removed one of the font paths. Should it not retain the old
> > entries? It was funny looking at the config file: Card identification is
> > Matrox G200, but the driver is nv :-)
> 
> If anyone out there still thinks dexconf was a good idea,
> they ought to have their head examined.
> 

I'd second that, but only the first part not the second :-}.

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Re: xauthority and root

[Andy Saxena]

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 05:37:44PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 05:22:48PM -0500, Decibels wrote:
> > Seems that a lot of the stuff I try to do, like 'make xconfig' and 
> > starting a xfm session,... for root, when I
> > need to use root, I still have to do the
> > 
> > xauth merge  ~/username//.Xauthority
> > 
> > to get it to work. Is there anyway I can add this to a script at boot, 
> > so I don't have to enter it when I need
> > to use something as root? I am not running a server so I don't think I 
> > need to worry about security on this.
>Ceate $HOME/.xinitrc as:
> 
>   # This makes X work when I su to root.
>   if [ -z "$XAUTHORITY" ]; then
>   XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority
>   export XAUTHORITY
>   fi
> 
>and run "su" in xterm.
> 
> Does this work for you?   ... from my "Debian reference" below

Doesn't work if you are using kdm/kde :-}.

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Re: Woody Woes

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 10:43:16AM -0500, ktb wrote:
> >On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 08:35:51AM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:
>  
> > One reminder, 2.4 kernels are very modular and must be configured using
> > modules otherwise most key functions do not work.
> 
> I've got a 2.4.18 kernel with one module installed.  Everything else is
> static.  I've seen no key functions that don't work.  Which functions
> are you talking about?

I should have said "Debian pre-compiled 2.4.18 kernels provided as
kernel-image-2.4.18-386 etc.".

Key functions such as network cards, netfilter, nfs, jbd, ext3, (I think
scsi too), ...  For jbd, ext3, and ext2, I activate them at boot time
using initrd. /etc/mkinitr/modules conatins them.  See mkinitrd(8).

If course you can brew your own kernel using make-kpkg and go static.
If machine is behind firewall, no-journal filesystem, no-cd-rw, no-scsi,
single ethernet card, no sound, no framebuffer ... module will be one
for network card.
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Re: Erratic mouse behavior

[Andy Saxena]

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 07:17:06PM -0500, John Foster wrote:
> -
> I've had a similar recent experience started about 2 weeks ago after a
> general woody upgrade. 2 wierd problems.
> 1. I now have a conflict between my console mouse and my xwindows. they
> are fighting for control. Now, what's strange is that I no longer have
> /dev/gpmdata it's simply gone. I have been watching for others to
> see a similar situation and maybe figure out why. Since I first noticed
> it after I upgraded XFree86-4.xx I saw that my mouse device in the
> config file is now /dev/psaux. That is what was written in after my last
> upgrade by debconf.
> 2. I have also seen a lot of console crashes when my xserver crashes.
> The xserver seems to come back up but the console is a goner. What's up
> with that?
> -- 
> John Foster


Please attach your /etc/gpm.conf and /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 files.

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Re: Erratic mouse behavior

[Andy Saxena]

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 02:25:45PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote:
> * Jonathan David Pearce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020420 14:12]:
> > I've been running unstable for several months now. I just did a
> > package update in dselect and selected a few new packages to install.
> 
> I've ran into some odd mouse behaviour after a recent xfree upgrade too.
> My mouse cursor will sometimes turn into a white square "block" shape.
> Sometimes this occurs when X is first started; other times after
> switching to a console and then back; and finally, it seems, after the
> monitor has went into 'sleep' mode (and then awakened).
> 
> My xfree86-common version is 4.1.0-16.
> 
> I've had dexconf create a new XF86Config-4 file. Tried 'ImPS/2' and/or 
> 'MouseManPlusPS/2' as my mouse protocol with no change. I've also used
> older XF86Config-4 files that I've saved.

Could you attach your current /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file?

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Problems with kmusicdb

[stan]

I'm trying to get kmusicdb set up on my woody system.

It installed just fine, and I have created the postgres user for my user 
name. I can conect to posrges using psql, but when I try to use kmusicdb 
to create a new music database, I get an error saying "relation version 
does not exist". How can I fix this?

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Re: Erratic mouse behavior

[Andy Saxena]

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 02:06:23PM -0400, Jonathan David Pearce wrote:
> I've been running unstable for several months now. I just did a package
> update in dselect and selected a few new packages to install. I also
> updated all the already installed packages that had updates available.
> Last update I did was two, maybe three weeks ago.
> 
> After all the package updates were in place, my mouse cursor has
> exhibited new behavior. Approximately every minute or two, any sort of
> mouse movement generates random movement by the cursor on screen,
> including phantom button-clicking of any of the 3 buttons. This persists
> for perhaps 15 seconds before the mouse cursor reverts to normal.
> 
> When the mouse isn't acting crazy, it is perfectly functional--i.e., 80%
> of the time, it works just fine. I checked my XFree86Config and it's

You do mean /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? That's the config file for version 4
of X.

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Re: UPDATE: when using XDM, lose mouse/kbd when logout

[Michel Dänzer]

On Sat, 2002-04-20 at 02:02, Paul F. Pearson wrote: 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Paul F. Pearson wrote:
> 
> > Configuration:
> >  Woody, Macintosh 7500 w/G3 card, flwm window manager
> > 
> > Problem:
> > When I use XDM to log in, everything seems fine, although the Xmessage 
> > window does show up. THe only error mentioned is 
> >   "modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-6"
> > Everything works fine in X, until I logout via the menu. When the login 
> > screen comes back, I can no longer use my mouse or enter a username. I 
> > *can* do a ctrl-alt-F2 to bring up a virtual console (doing that right 
> > now).
> > 
> > This only happens when I use XDM. If I disable XDM, then I see no 
> > problems. I don't see the "can't locate char-major-6" error, but grepping 
> > for it in the logs shows that I've been getting it for some time.
> 
> When I switch back to the X screen from the virtual console, all works 
> well. In other words, when I log out, I can ctrl-alt-F2, ctrl-F7 and 
> everyting works wonderfully. Is my setup messed up somewhere?

I doubt it, sounds like an X bug. As a workaround, you could have your
display manager always restart the X server.


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Re: Woody Woes

[ktb]

>On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 08:35:51AM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:

 

> One reminder, 2.4 kernels are very modular and must be configured using
> modules otherwise most key functions do not work.
> 

I've got a 2.4.18 kernel with one module installed.  Everything else is
static.  I've seen no key functions that don't work.  Which functions
are you talking about?
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Re: mutt+Maildir

[Patrick Hsieh]

Hello craigw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

I set the following lines in my .muttrd

set folder=~/Maildir
set mbox_type=Maildir
set record=~/Maildir/.Sent


And it works with mutt and .Sent Maildir format folder.
Thanks.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 08:28:59 -0700
craigw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun Apr 21, 2002 at 09:49:11PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > I use postfix and Maildir together.
> > When I export MAIL=$HOME/Maildir, mutt can read the inbox.
> > But when I send mail out, it will not backup in the $HOME/Maildir/.Sent
> > directory. How to make it work?
> > 
> > -- 
> 
> Put this in ~/.muttrc:
> set record='~/Mailidir/.Sent'
> 
> note that in this case .Sent will be a mbox-style mail file, not a
> directory. So if you have created a directory called .Sent you would
> need to remove it. Or else maybe you prefer something like this:
> 
> set record='~/Mailidir/.Sent/mbox'
> 
> (I am not familiar with Maildir)
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> 
> -CraigW
> 
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Re: config file for current kernel

[ktb]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 05:58:12AM -0700, Kapil Khosla wrote:
> Hi,
> I normally have to recompile my kernel a number of times.
> 
> Obviously , the .config file in /usr/src/linux gets overwritten and I lose my 
> old .config file. I know I can save it by a unique name but 
> is there a command/utility which I could use to know the configuration of the 
> current running kernel ?

IIUC -

$ less /usr/src/linux/.config

or

cd /usr/src/linux
# make menuconfig

Select *not* to save your configuration on exit if all you want to do is
view the current config.
hth,
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Re: Woody Woes

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 11:47:55AM +1000, Matt Chipman wrote:
> I am trying to upgrade to Woody and use the 2.4 kernel.
> I am a wireless enthusiast and have a pcmcia to pci adapter PLX card with a
> hermes enterasis card which is why i want to use the 2.4 Kernel. (support is
> in this kernel if you didnt know)
Good. (Support are most likely as modules, i.e., insmod needed to run.
Setting /etc/modules for automate this during booting)

> I added the correct llines to the apt soureces list and the upgrade went
> smoothly with "apt-get dist-upgrade"
Well

> Upon reboot. i am still using the 2.2.17 potato kernel :(
Of course, because 2.4 did not get installed.  You need to do it
excplicitly.  kernel-image-2.?.? will never automatically upgrade to
different version of kernel in Debian.  Just too risky.  You need to do
it.

> I know it is something i am doing wrong but i don't know what.
Nothing wrong but you need to install 2.4 kernel.

> RTFM and all that, i have done but have not been able to make it work.

When looking for new package like this, I would use "dselect" to find
latest kernel.  (Of course you can use "apt-cache search" or "dpkg -l"
... but why?)

kernel-image-2.4.18-386 or its chip optimized versions are good start.

> I guess my question is when i have the correct apt sources, why doesnt my
> kernel upgrade?

This you do not need to worry.  You seem to be OK.

One reminder, 2.4 kernels are very modular and must be configured using
modules otherwise most key functions do not work.

First read testing version of install manual and release notes.  
See more official pointers on http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/

I invite you to read "Debian reference" on Debian site. (See below)
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Re: Woody Woes

[ktb]

On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 11:47:55AM +1000, Matt Chipman wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I am trying to upgrade to Woody and use the 2.4 kernel.
> I am a wireless enthusiast and have a pcmcia to pci adapter PLX card with a
> hermes enterasis card which is why i want to use the 2.4 Kernel. (support is
> in this kernel if you didnt know)
> 
> I added the correct llines to the apt soureces list and the upgrade went
> smoothly with "apt-get dist-upgrade"
> 
> Upon reboot. i am still using the 2.2.17 potato kernel :(
> 
> I know it is something i am doing wrong but i don't know what.
> 
> RTFM and all that, i have done but have not been able to make it work.
> 
> I guess my question is when i have the correct apt sources, why doesnt my
> kernel upgrade?
> 
> any pointers appreciated

Woody uses a 2.2.x kernel by default.  A "dist-upgrade" isn't going to give 
you a 2.4.x kernel.  You will have to snag the kernel source and build/install 
the kernel yourself.

If you don't know how to install a kernel:

The debian way -
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html

The traditional way -
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html

hth,
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Re: mutt+Maildir

[craigw]

On Sun Apr 21, 2002 at 09:49:11PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I use postfix and Maildir together.
> When I export MAIL=$HOME/Maildir, mutt can read the inbox.
> But when I send mail out, it will not backup in the $HOME/Maildir/.Sent
> directory. How to make it work?
> 
> -- 

Put this in ~/.muttrc:
set record='~/Mailidir/.Sent'

note that in this case .Sent will be a mbox-style mail file, not a
directory. So if you have created a directory called .Sent you would
need to remove it. Or else maybe you prefer something like this:

set record='~/Mailidir/.Sent/mbox'

(I am not familiar with Maildir)
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Re: Utility to convert videos

[Mark Janssen]

On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 17:16, Michael Kaminsky wrote:
> My digital camera can create short movies which are in AVI file format
> and use the Motion JPEG codec.  I have several programs that can play
> them; that's no problem.
>  1. What's the best file format and codec such that people using
> Windows, Mac, and Unix can view the video relatively painlessly?
> (A smaller size/better compression would also be great.)

Welll like you allready stated, you can allready play them. I assume
that since they're avi files windows media player has no problems with
them either. I can't comment about the mac, but I'm sure it's capable of
playing avi's with mjpegs.

>  2. Is there a Linux command-line utility that can convert from my
> current AVI/Motion JPEG format to this other format (command-line
> is preferable but not technically a requirement)?

Transcode... don't ask me how it works...

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Re: woody's "frozen-bubble" package

[James Vahn]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote:

> > I believe frozen-bubble requires xfree86-v4, not v3.  
> 
> Nope; runs fine on my laptop, which is using v3.
> 
> I wish it didn't; that damn game is worse than crack.

That's what they say is delaying Woody. ;-)  Had to check it out
but the thing doesn't run.  xserver-svga-v3



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Utility to convert videos

[Michael Kaminsky]

My digital camera can create short movies which are in AVI file format
and use the Motion JPEG codec.  I have several programs that can play
them; that's no problem.

I have two questions:

 1. What's the best file format and codec such that people using
Windows, Mac, and Unix can view the video relatively painlessly?
(A smaller size/better compression would also be great.)

 2. Is there a Linux command-line utility that can convert from my
current AVI/Motion JPEG format to this other format (command-line
is preferable but not technically a requirement)?

Again, I don't need a viewer, just a converter of some sort.

Thanks,

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Re: Updating woody-isolinux.iso using rsync?

[Mark Janssen]

On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 15:19, Brian Greenfield wrote:
> I've tried to update it using rsync -- I'm an rsync
> virgin:), but everything I've tried has failed. These are
> the commands I've tried:
> 
> |rsync people.debian.org:~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 
> |rsync people.debian.org:/~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 
> |rsync people.debian.org::~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 
> |rsync rsync://people.debian.org:~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso 

I don't know diddly-squat about rsync either, just rsync'd the mini-cd
woody last week... but try:

rsync  

so

rsync people.debian.org:~hertzog/debian-cd/woody-isolinux.iso .

(If that is the correct path, and it is indeed rsync-able...)

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Re: apt-cache

[craigw]

On Sun Apr 21, 2002 at 02:26:20AM -0700, ben wrote:
> On Sunday 21 April 2002 02:18 am, Satelle, StevenX wrote:
> > Does anyone know how to clear the cache for apt. I dont mean /var/cache/apt
> > I mean when I start to install some packages using dselect after making a
> > mistake in the sources.list, it reads it into the cache but cant install.
> > I've manualy gone in and unselected the packages put if I say install after
> > that this what i'm returned:
> > Reading Package Lists...
> > Building Dependency Tree...
> > 59 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > Need to get 0B/24.7MB of archives. After unpacking 73.4MB will be used.
> > Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> > Err file - a rake of package names it cant install despite saying it has
> > nothing to install
> >
> > I cant clear this cache, I dont even know where it is getting it from. I've
> > even tried a REBOOT! any help appreciated
> 
> post the error messages. everything you've posted here doesn't indicate what 
> you're problem is about, and really doesn't give anyone a clue as to what the 
> actual problem is. 
> 
> apart from that, are you really at intel? is intel encouraging its employees 
> to run debian? alright!

Maybe try 

dpkg --clear-avail
apt-get update

??
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ESD and Gnome Sound woes

[Balazs Javor]

Hi,

I have a strange problem with esd.
If I select to start esd and to enable Gnome sounds
in the controll panel, then whenever I start X I get
some strange pulsing high frequency sound from my speakers,
that stops after X has finished loading.
And allthough strange that's not a big problem.
The problem is when I then try to play sounds with esdplay,
or the Gnome sounds from the Gnome control center, the
sounds are strange. Sometimes trunchated, sometimes witch
stops in it and sometimes parts of it repeat at the end...

The curious thing is, that if I don't enable esd, this obviously
does not happen, but I can still play sounds with esdplay,
and so they play perfectly.

Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

Many thanks for your help in advance!
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Proftpd Question..

[axacheng]

Hello List:

i wanna configure my proftpd server as following:

1 directory (upload_for_check) which link to my RAID5 disk and all users ONLY 
Read files BUT CAN'T download

My Question is : Which Proftpd Directives that I CAN use so that  
"upload_for_check"  just read permission

NOT Download permission?!!!   @_@

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Sound problems with flash and galoen

[Preben Randhol]

The sound worked before with Galeon and flash, but now after a upgrade
the sound comes like it is played at the wrong speed or something. It
stead of say beeep is sounds like beoop beoop beoop (like a wavy
sound hard to explain). Does anybody know what it might be?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Woody (Testing) question

[Patrick Hsieh]

Hello DSC Extra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

You can apt-get upgrade even woody releases stable.


On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 13:56:27 +0200
DSC Extra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm on Woody install now, but I have a question:
> 
>- When woody releases under stable, will apt-get handle the final upgrade 
> to stable (any last
> minute changes, bug fixes, etc.)?
> 
> 
> 
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