Re: Locale and date/time settings

2002-10-07 Thread Osamu Aoki

On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 11:33:27PM -0400, David P James wrote:
> Does anyone happen to know which locale to set for date/time to get a 
> date in the following format?
> /mm/dd or -mm-dd
> 
> Or, if no such locale exists, then is it possible to generate one?

 $  LC_TIME=ja_JP ls -l
 drwxr-xr-x4 nospam   nospam   4096 2002-08-29 10:28 zlib-1.1.4
 ...

 You need to generate ja_JP locale, though.
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Samba 'security=server' Debian/Windows passwd consistency [was Re: Samba 'security=domain' help]

2002-10-07 Thread Andy Saxena

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 12:38:36PM -0700, nate wrote:
> 
> if your wanting to authenticate from the domain the easiest way
> is to do security=SERVER and set the password server to the
> PDC of the NT domain. You don't have to do security=domain.
> If you really do want to do security=domain(can you say why?
> I cannot see any advantage to using it). I believe you have to
> join the samba server to the domain(search google on this, its
> not a very straight forward process IMO).
> 
> I have used security=SERVER to authenticate off NT4 PDCs for
> several years and its always worked flawlessly for me.
> 
> nate
> 

At work I have setup a Debian machine which I use for console access and
also as a file server for a few other people. I am in a Windows
environment so I set up Samba to enable shares. Pursuing a more
practical solution, I changed the "security=user" default to the
following global options:

security=server
password server= servername

and then, as a test, changed my Windows network password. I was able to
access my shares on the  Debian machine after that using the new
password. That makes me think that my Samba setup is successful in
passing on the authentication to the domain PDC.

However, I would like to also access my user account on the Debian
machine which has the same login ID as the one I use for the Windows
network. Is it possible to set this up so that the password either gets
updated automatically from the PDC, or, in the very least, it can be
authenticated against the PDC?

I know that when the "security=user" option is used, one can set the
"unix password sync" option. Is there an equivalent for
"security=server"? 

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Re: free software version of MATLAB

2002-10-07 Thread Tom Cook

On  0, Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 07 October 2002 02:54 am, Musang S.X. wrote:
> > Hi! I notice many students are using MATLAB at my
> > school/campus, and I suspect most are pirated
> > versions...
> >
> > Is there any free software version of MATLAB that I
> > can use/suggest as an alternative?
> >
> > Thanks!
> 
> Octave and SciLab. They don't really measure up to MATLAB with its really 
> extensive toolboxes, but they are OK for basic linear algebra.

I use Octave for a lot of signal processing and control stuff as
well.  It covers pretty much everything they will need for an
undergraduate electrical engineering course.

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Re: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-07 Thread Seneca

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 01:31:46AM -0400, lameth wrote:
> Has anyone gotten netscape 7.0 to install yet? When I tried I received 
> the error message;
> ./netscape-installer error while loading shared libraries: 
> libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
> 
> I know I have libc6 installed and I just installed libstdc++2.2 other 
> than that I do believe woody meets the requirements.

But do you have libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 installed?

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2002-10-07 Thread Bruno Salinier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Subject:
>
> debian-user-digest Digest   Volume 2002 : Issue 19
>
> Today's Topics:
>   Re: network - notwork! unable to acc  [ Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   =?GB2312?B?ZGViaWFuLXVzZXLE+rrDo6E=?  [ =?GB2312?B?0Oy8zsHZ?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: OpenSSL suggested version [ Travis Crump <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Netscape 7.0  [ lameth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: strange apt-get upgrade issue [ Crispin WellingtonRe: network - notwork! unable to acc  [ Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   unsubscribe   [ Christopher Shea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Manually changing IRQ/reconfigur  [ Andy Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Gnome session errors  [ Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: configuring ADSL at Debian??  [ Crispin WellingtonRe: deb command - which package?  [ Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Netscape 7.0  [ ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Khelpcenter glossary problem  [ Dirk Kostrewa <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   RE: Netscape 7.0  [ David Pasternfree software version of MATLAB   [ "Musang S.X." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   =?GB2312?B?ZGViaWFuLXVzZXLE+rrDo6E=?  [ =?GB2312?B?0Oy8zsHZ?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: free software version of MATLAB   [ Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Netscape 7.0  [ ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Locale and date/time settings [ Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Samba 'security=server' Debian/Windo  [ Andy Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>
>   
>
> Subject: Re: network - notwork! unable to access lan and net
> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 00:09:46 -0500
> From: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> sandip wrote:
>
> >>  Sandip> status: i am unable to ping my machine's ip address,
> >>
> >>
> >thanx for the help. it was an oversight on my part. my apologies to the
> >group. i had entered ip addresses incorrectly.
> >
> >subsequently, i have edited /etc/network/interfaces by hand and set the
> >things right - by hand! i used vi for the first time and was amazed at the
> >facilities it provides. all *i mean it* win editors look pale compared to vi!
> >
> >
> vi ?!! You were amazed by vi?!
>
> >and all seems well now. however, i wanted to know if there is a tool/ utility
> >to do what i did by hand.
> >
> >
> The installer routine normally handles network setup, but after initial
> installation, I'm not aware of any tools for editing network setup in
> Debian.
>
> >further i wanted to know if there are any other places where i need to change
> >ip address my machine and gateway other than what i have already done.
> >
> >
> Other possibly relevant files are /etc/hosts, /etc/hostname,
> /etc/resolv.conf, and the /etc/network/ directory, but what you've done
> should probably take care of your immediate needs.
>
> >i also will like to know what does entry 'network' in /etc/network/interfaces
> >mean
> >
> >
>  From "man interfaces":
> The static Method
>This  method  may be used to define ethernet interfaces with
> statically
>allocated IPv4 addresses.
>
>Options
>
>   address address
>  Address (dotted quad) required
>
>   netmask netmask
>  Netmask (dotted quad) required
>
>   broadcast broadcast_address
>  Broadcast address (dotted quad)
>
>   network network_address
>  Network address (dotted quad) required for 2.0.x
> kernels
>
>   gateway address
>  Default gateway (dotted quad)
>
> >and where does one change dns server entries?
> >
>
> /etc/resolv.conf
>
> >last but not the least - how do i access my lan resources? files on other pcs
> >and printers connected to them? in windows i can do it!
> >
> >
>
> Depends on what the other machines and printers are, and the protocols
> they speak. Windows computers usually speak SMB, and in order to access
> Windows shares (file sharing and printer sharing), you'll need to
> install and configure samba on your Linux box. Do a google for "samba
> howto" and you'll find way more info that you ever wanted.
>
> If you're printing to networked printers (not Windows-shared printers),
> you're probably interested in lpd and/or cups information.
>
>   
>
> Subject: debian-user您好!
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sound with a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio

2002-10-07 Thread Bruno Boettcher

Hello!

i am trying to get the sound working with a 2.4.18 kernel and the
onboard chip of my athlon board...

there's not much of help in the docu so far, the kernelö docu about via
chipsets only says they can freeze the kernel, but don't bother to say
which module i should load for this t hing..

i tryed to load ac97, but this stays alone, doesn't even need
soundcore to be loaded so i am quite clueless about how to set this
up...

i compiled oss and alsa as modules for my kernel, but both fail to
recognize and set up the sound...

so any help welcome!

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Repartioning NTFS

2002-10-07 Thread Michael Richardson



What I'm trying to do is setup a duel-boot system that will be running my 
current OS (Windows XP) and Debian Woody. My problem is that my hard disk is 
a NTFS file system and the FIPS program they say to use in the install 
manual doesn't say anything about repartioning anything but FAT file 
systems. If anyone knows of a free disk partioner that will allow me to make 
another partition without destroying the files already on my system I would 
greatly appreciate a responce.

Thank you,
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Woody & Locales

2002-10-07 Thread thomas kral

Dear list,

I have just noticed that Woody maintains two distinct dirs for locales.

/usr/share/locale # created during install

and

/usr/lib/locale # reported by localedef --help

On my system to get cs_CZ & en_US locales working I had to compile
them in /usr/lib/locale by hand.

Now this perfectly works under GNOME, I can pick any language from GDM
and the locale vars are set accordingly upon user login. This however 
does not work in KDE.

IS THIS CORRECT?

Your help is appreciated.

Thomas.


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Re: Q: Xfree troubles!!! help, please

2002-10-07 Thread Raúl Wild-Spain

Hi! Jerome,

>What does running "dpkg --audit" tell you?

she says nothing!!

>If all packages are installed and configured, you could try running
>as root, "XFree86 -configure". It may give you a minimally working
>XF86Config-4 that you can tweak into something more useful.

I executed and it has created XF86Config.new.

>From XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new  I can see exactly the same
problem:

...
Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
...

:-((

thank's a lot 4 your help, Jerome!


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Re: sound with a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio

2002-10-07 Thread Seneca

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 09:54:12AM +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
> i am trying to get the sound working with a 2.4.18 kernel and the
> onboard chip of my athlon board...
> 
> there's not much of help in the docu so far, the kernel? docu about via
> chipsets only says they can freeze the kernel, but don't bother to say
> which module i should load for this t hing..

But did you check Configure.help?

> i tryed to load ac97, but this stays alone, doesn't even need
> soundcore to be loaded so i am quite clueless about how to set this
> up...

I don't have one of those soundchips, but by looking at the
documentation and makefile, did you try "modprobe via82cxx_audio"?

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Re: Repartioning NTFS

2002-10-07 Thread Andy Saxena

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 12:47:36AM -0700, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> 
> What I'm trying to do is setup a duel-boot system that will be running my 
> current OS (Windows XP) and Debian Woody. My problem is that my hard disk 
> is a NTFS file system and the FIPS program they say to use in the install 
> manual doesn't say anything about repartioning anything but FAT file 
> systems. If anyone knows of a free disk partioner that will allow me to 
> make another partition without destroying the files already on my system I 
> would greatly appreciate a responce.
> 
> Thank you,
> MICHAEL
> 

I'd suspect there's no such free software in the Linux world that will
repartition or resize NTFS partitions. If there were, it'd imply an
ability to write to NTFS partitions, which is not available as of this
moment. 

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Re: configuring ADSL at Debian??

2002-10-07 Thread martin f krafft

also sprach Albert Tuulas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.07.0543 +0200]:
> I have just installed Debian 3.0 in compact model. Then I was runing
> pppoeconf to configure my connection to provider. Everything goes fine
> during setup, eth0 adapter present (RealTek 8029 AS PCI), network
> concentrator was found. Then I give account connection details (works
> fine in Windows) such as password and username@networktitle. After
> setup my parameters pppoeconf tries to make a connection and I am
> getting error:

put 'debug' (no quotes) into /etc/ppp/dsl-provider on a line by itself
and see what the output in syslog will then be.

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Re: postfix: very long startup time (few minutes)

2002-10-07 Thread martin f krafft

also sprach Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.07.0543 +0200]:
>   for some reason the postfix thatkes a LONG time to startup (during 
> boot). any ideas why? It seems like it's getting worse over time.

how do you start it?

if through the init.d script, then see what

  sh -x /etc/init.d/postfix start

does. it should show you where it spends most the time.

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Re: Sorting locally delivered email using Procmail

2002-10-07 Thread Andy Saxena

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 10:45:48AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
> Actually, I just use fetchmail to download from my ISP's POP3 store to 
> my local Cyrus IMAP server (via procmail).
> 
> So your situation is completely different.  I don't see how you could 
> use fetchmail to do what you are wanting to do.
> 
> What happens if you run cyrdeliver manually while logged on as the 
> 'mail' user (assuming your exim is running as that)?  You might have 
> some kind of permissions problem.  fetchmail is running as root for me, 
> so that's might be why it works for me, but not in the context of exim 
> for you.

Looks like there's a great deal of misunderstanding/ miscommunication
about what I am trying to achieve.

For details, please read my original posting. Here's the situation in
brief:
Deliver local mail to users in such a way that they can run their
procmail recipes. For e.g., if a user gets all the mail about cron jobs,
he should be able to direct that into the =inbox.cron folder.

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Re: Sorting locally delivered email using Procmail

2002-10-07 Thread Andy Saxena

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 05:03:14PM +,  Angles  Puglisi wrote:
> Keith G. Murphy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
> >Actually, I just use fetchmail to download from my ISP's POP3 store to
> >my local Cyrus IMAP server (via procmail).
> >
> I've been using this app for years, always stable, very flexible, easy to
> configure, I ditched "cooking recipes" when I found this:
> 
> getmail, A POP3 mail retriever with reliable Maildir and mbox delivery
> http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/getmail-2.0/
> 
> Run it from a cron job, it does its thing, then you can invoke a script written in
> your favorite language (or shell...), or even customize the Python code directly,
> to do exactly what you want (unless I misunderstood your requirements).
> 

I am afraid there's been some miscommunication, please see my last
response to Keith's posting.

Thanks for taking the time.

-Andy


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Re: strange apt-get upgrade issue

2002-10-07 Thread Colin Watson

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 01:33:27PM +0800, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 12:57, Chris McCormick wrote:
> > At 12:41 7/10/2002 +0800, you wrote:
> > >Can you dump it on a webpage and post the URL to the list?
> > 
> > Sure,
> > http://203.59.70.242/strace_dpkg_output.txt
> 
> [pid  4582] ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, 4580, 0, 0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not
> permitted)
> [pid  4582] ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, 4577, 0, 0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not
> permitted)
> 
> this is something tar is trying to do and failing, thus breaking the
> pipe...

I think it actually means that strace couldn't attach to the processes
in question.

I only have a very vague memory of the original problem, but that vague
memory says it got fixed sometime during the woody development process.
An upgrade (upgrading dpkg first) might be worthwhile.

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Re: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-07 Thread Colin Watson

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 04:52:29PM +1000, David Pastern wrote:
> umm not really noi don't see any debs for kvirc...and that's open
> source, gpl based...

[cjwatson@arborlon ~]$ madison kvirc
 kvirc | 1:2.1.2-11 |stable | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, 
mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
 kvirc | 1:2.1.2-11 |   testing | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, 
mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
 kvirc | 1:2.1.2.0-1 |  unstable | arm, ia64
 kvirc | 1:2.1.2.1-1 |  unstable | source, alpha, hppa, i386, m68k, mips, 
mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc

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Re: strange apt-get upgrade issue

2002-10-07 Thread Chris McCormick

At 13:33 7/10/2002 +0800, you wrote:
>On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 12:57, Chris McCormick wrote:
> > At 12:41 7/10/2002 +0800, you wrote:
> > >On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 12:34, Chris McCormick wrote:
> > > > >You could try comparing straces of the dpkg command when it works and
> > > > >when it doesn't work
> > > > >
> > > > >strace -fF  dpkg -X packagename.deb /path/to/testdir 2>strace.output
> > > >
> > > > Excellent suggestion - at the moment I can't get it to run 
> correctly ever
> > > > though. :(
> > > >
> > > > running:
> > > > strace -fF dpkg --unpack libc6_2.1.3-24_i386.deb
> > > > doesn't tell me anything i can understand. if someone more knowledgable
> > > > wants to look at the copy of the output i can send it to them.
> > >
> > >Can you dump it on a webpage and post the URL to the list?
> >
> > Sure,
> > http://203.59.70.242/strace_dpkg_output.txt
>
>[pid  4582] ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, 4580, 0, 0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not
>permitted)
>[pid  4582] ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, 4577, 0, 0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not
>permitted)
>
>this is something tar is trying to do and failing, thus breaking the
>pipe...
>
>The same happens on the gzip call...
>
>from man ptrace
>
>ERRORS
>EPERM  The specified process cannot be traced.  This could
>   be  because the parent has insufficient privileges;
>   non-root processes cannot trace processes that they
>   cannot send signals to or those running setuid/set­
>   gid programs, for obvious reasons.   Alternatively,
>   the process may already be being traced, or be init
>   (pid 1).
>
>
>Not that that helps much.
>
>If you go
>
>dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile packagename.deb > packagename.tar
>
>and then
>
>/bin/tar xvf packagename.tar
>
>Does it untar ok?

Hi Crispin,

Yeah that seems to work fine.

>Is it a broken package that is cached? try...
>
>rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
>rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*.deb

I have tried that countless times unfortunately :/

>Does dselect fix the problems. Try running dselect, choose update, the
>select. Add no new packages, just press return, then select install.

Just tried this and got the same error - it's failing on the untar.

e.g. dpkg-deb: wait for tar failed: No child processes

>All just vague stabs in the dark really...

That's cool, thanks for all the suggestions anyway!

I'm suspecting i might have some kind of broken glibc action going on. I 
think that it might not be able to re-attach to tar because of an actual 
corruption in the library binaries that handle that kind of thing. Maybe 
it's half installed and some of the hooks to do with process attaching 
aren't there or some weirdness like that. Hopefully it isn't something 
sinister.

I really want to see if i can solve this without a complete re-install. A 
re-install of this particular system would not be too awesome at all.

If anyone else has any hints that would be great.

Thanks!

Chris.

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Re: Hotplugging USB, debconf question

2002-10-07 Thread Andy Saxena

On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 10:17:34PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> 
> I'll give this a try...
> 
> 
[great explanation]

> I hope this helps.
> 
> jc
> 

Thanks, that's a very lucid explanation.

-Andy


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Re: strange apt-get upgrade issue

2002-10-07 Thread Chris McCormick

At 09:36 7/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 01:33:27PM +0800, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> > On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 12:57, Chris McCormick wrote:
> > > At 12:41 7/10/2002 +0800, you wrote:
> > > >Can you dump it on a webpage and post the URL to the list?
> > >
> > > Sure,
> > > http://203.59.70.242/strace_dpkg_output.txt
> >
> > [pid  4582] ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, 4580, 0, 0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not
> > permitted)
> > [pid  4582] ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, 4577, 0, 0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not
> > permitted)
> >
> > this is something tar is trying to do and failing, thus breaking the
> > pipe...
>
>I think it actually means that strace couldn't attach to the processes
>in question.
>
>I only have a very vague memory of the original problem, but that vague
>memory says it got fixed sometime during the woody development process.
>An upgrade (upgrading dpkg first) might be worthwhile.

Ok i might just bite the bullet and do this. Thanks for the suggestion.

Chris.

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Re: Repartioning NTFS

2002-10-07 Thread ben

On Monday 07 October 2002 01:17 am, Andy Saxena wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 12:47:36AM -0700, Michael Richardson wrote:
> > What I'm trying to do is setup a duel-boot system that will be running my
> > current OS (Windows XP) and Debian Woody. My problem is that my hard disk
> > is a NTFS file system and the FIPS program they say to use in the install
> > manual doesn't say anything about repartioning anything but FAT file
> > systems. If anyone knows of a free disk partioner that will allow me to
> > make another partition without destroying the files already on my system
> > I would greatly appreciate a responce.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > MICHAEL
>
> I'd suspect there's no such free software in the Linux world that will
> repartition or resize NTFS partitions. If there were, it'd imply an
> ability to write to NTFS partitions, which is not available as of this
> moment.
>

from my experience, andy's got it right. even the latest linux kernels offer 
ntfs readibility only as dubious experimental code. keep in mind that the 
significant data on any filesystem can be retained in a variety of formats. 
before you trash what you've got, save any data you created in as generic a 
format as your apps enable, separate from, and additional to any backup 
options offered by win-whatever. essentially, export your data in a generic 
format to a zip disk or any other media you have available that is capable of 
importing straight text data. linux will read anything saved as straight text.

assuming that you have the installation disks necessary to re-install 
win-whatever, you should only need to make sure that your win reinstallation 
doesn't hog all of your hd resources. i.e. you should actively resrict its 
access to your hd resources to the absolute minimum required. then boot the 
system to read your debian boot cd's or floppy's. linux won't let you 
overwrite your win-whatever partition without making you aware of it.

the main thing to keep in mind is that you shouldn't do anything until you 
feel reasonably assured that you're doing the right thing. if you're the only 
user on the system, jump in, be brave, but save unreproducible data. on this 
list, you're in good company. if others depend on the system you're working 
with, take the time to consider the implications to them of what you want to 
do.

bottom line is save unreproducible data. as long as you do that, you can't go 
wrong. 

btw, welcome to freedom.

ben


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Xfree86 Problem

2002-10-07 Thread Cuno Sonnemans

Hi,

I cant't get X to work.
I have an AMD 1900+, AbitKR7A-133 motherboard and a Club3D ATI RADEON 
8500 Pro videocard.
I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but that doesn't help very 
much.
Does anybody know  the problem and know's how to solve it 

HTH,

Cuno


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Debian 3 Woddy und Geforce 4MX

2002-10-07 Thread Michael Hilgers

Hallo,

weiß vielleicht einer ob Debian 3 Woddy die Geforce 4 MX Karten erkennt oder
ob man erst konfigurieren muss wie ein Weltmeister um das ganze zum laufen
zu bringe. Bin nämlich noch ein blutiger Anfänger in Sachen Debian / Linux
und will aber trotzdem erstmal ein Simples Debian mit KDE ans laufen kriegen
um mich etwas darin einzuarbeiten.

Kann mir da einer weiter helfen ??

Schonmal vielen Dank 

MfG

> Michael Hilgers
> Institute of Industrial Engineering and Ergonomics
> Aachen University of Technology
> Bergdriesch 27, 52062 Aachen, GERMANY
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Debian on Gericom Webshox

2002-10-07 Thread Erik Browaldh

Hello,

I have problems installing Debian with an Graphical environment (ie now 
only text-based) on my
Gericom Webshox. A friend told me, its because of no recognition of the 
gfx-card.

Also, during installation I have problems for not getting all the text 
on one screen, and no idea how to scroll down/minimize the text.
This was a big problem when I wanted to partition my HD, no way I 
couldnt see the last 2-3 lines where the commands are given.

Greatful for help!
Erik


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Re: Xfree86 Problem

2002-10-07 Thread Seneca

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:10:06AM +0200, Cuno Sonnemans wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I cant't get X to work.
> I have an AMD 1900+, AbitKR7A-133 motherboard and a Club3D ATI RADEON 
> 8500 Pro videocard.
> I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but that doesn't help very 
> much.
> Does anybody know  the problem and know's how to solve it 

It is doubtful that anyone could help you find the problem. For us to
help, we need more than "I can't get X to work" and some hardware. What
output do you get when you try to start X? What is your XF86Config like?
When we have more information, then we might be able to do a bit more.

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Re: sound with a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio

2002-10-07 Thread Q. Gong

You need to load three modules.
# modprobe soundcore
# modprobe ac97_codec
# modprobe via82cxxx_audio

Good luck,

Qian

On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 09:54:12 +0200
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: sound with a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio
> Resent-Date: Mon,  7 Oct 2002 02:45:39 -0500 (CDT)
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hello!
>
> i am trying to get the sound working with a 2.4.18 kernel and the
> onboard chip of my athlon board...
>
> there's not much of help in the docu so far, the kernelö docu about via
> chipsets only says they can freeze the kernel, but don't bother to say
> which module i should load for this t hing..
>
> i tryed to load ac97, but this stays alone, doesn't even need
> soundcore to be loaded so i am quite clueless about how to set this
> up...
>
> i compiled oss and alsa as modules for my kernel, but both fail to
> recognize and set up the sound...
>
> so any help welcome!
>
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Re: Debian 3 Woddy und Geforce 4MX

2002-10-07 Thread ben

On Monday 07 October 2002 02:36 am, Michael Hilgers wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> weiß vielleicht einer ob Debian 3 Woddy die Geforce 4 MX Karten erkennt
> oder ob man erst konfigurieren muss wie ein Weltmeister um das ganze zum
> laufen zu bringe. Bin nämlich noch ein blutiger Anfänger in Sachen Debian /
> Linux und will aber trotzdem erstmal ein Simples Debian mit KDE ans laufen
> kriegen um mich etwas darin einzuarbeiten.
>
> Kann mir da einer weiter helfen ??
>
> Schonmal vielen Dank
>

versuch mal lieber bei debian-de, insgesamt besonders weil ich selber von 
geforce uberhaupt keine ahnung habe. bei uns, hier auf debian-user, kommt man 
besser zu recht biem ausdrucken auf englisch. hier gibt's doch wohl einige 
die behillflich sein koennten. trotzdem, auf englisch waere besser.

ben


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Re: Xfree86 Problem

2002-10-07 Thread ben

On Monday 07 October 2002 02:29 am, Seneca wrote:
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one of the most common--though logically inapparent--reasons for X to crash 
is inapproriate mouse configuration. post a description of your actual 
hardware config along with a paste of the mouse-significant part of your X 
config file.

ben


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RE: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-07 Thread David Pastern

whatever Ben.  I hit reply to all, big deal.  If I remember correctly you
didn't seem to think it was on Debian' package list either.  So don't
lecture me on being incorrect, and there's no need to be a smart ass either.


-Original Message-
From: ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 7 October 2002 7:21 PM
To: David Pastern
Subject: Re: Netscape 7.0


 
On Monday 07 October 2002 01:40 am, David Pastern wrote:
> mm it's apt-cache search kvirc :P  and it ain't my fault that it ain't
> offered as a software package by debian either.
>
[snip]

not only are you incorrect--see colin's post on the list--but you're pissing

me off with the offlist response. keep it on the list, okay?

ben


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Re: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-07 Thread ben

On Monday 07 October 2002 03:04 am, David Pastern wrote:
> whatever Ben.  I hit reply to all, big deal.  If I remember correctly you
> didn't seem to think it was on Debian' package list either.  So don't
> lecture me on being incorrect, and there's no need to be a smart ass
> either.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, 7 October 2002 7:21 PM
> To: David Pastern
> Subject: Re: Netscape 7.0
>
> On Monday 07 October 2002 01:40 am, David Pastern wrote:
> > mm it's apt-cache search kvirc :P  and it ain't my fault that it ain't
> > offered as a software package by debian either.
>


bullshit, dude. have the grace to admit when you're wrong.

ben


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Re: Debian 3 Woddy und Geforce 4MX

2002-10-07 Thread Matthias Szupryczynski

On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 19:36, Michael Hilgers wrote:
> weiß vielleicht einer ob Debian 3 Woddy die Geforce 4 MX Karten erkennt oder
> ob man erst konfigurieren muss wie ein Weltmeister um das ganze zum laufen
> zu bringe. Bin nämlich noch ein blutiger Anfänger in Sachen Debian / Linux
> und will aber trotzdem erstmal ein Simples Debian mit KDE ans laufen kriegen
> um mich etwas darin einzuarbeiten.

First, please post in english, otherwise most people here won't be able
to understand you.

Second, as far as I know, Woody should have no problem running X with a
Geforce 4 MX card ... just make sure that you know all the relevant
information of your monitor, video card, keyboard and mouse before you
start to configure your X-Server.

Third, if you then encounter problems, read the man-pages first and try
to get the system running by yourself. If this fails, post the
error-messages here together with some useful information like what you
have done so far, which kernel you are running etc

Hope that helps

Matt

PS. Otherwise there is a German mailing list, debian-de  if you want
to keep it German ;)


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task-sspanish

2002-10-07 Thread Jose Carlos Jordan Martin

Por favor,

Alguien me puede decir donde esta ahora el paquete task-spanish que 
antes  estaba en el servidor.
El enlace ahora no existe

No entiendo bien ingles
Gracias


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Re: strange apt-get upgrade issue

2002-10-07 Thread Crispin Wellington

On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 16:40, Chris McCormick wrote:
> I'm suspecting i might have some kind of broken glibc action going on. I 
> think that it might not be able to re-attach to tar because of an actual 
> corruption in the library binaries that handle that kind of thing. Maybe 
> it's half installed and some of the hooks to do with process attaching 
> aren't there or some weirdness like that. Hopefully it isn't something 
> sinister.

Absolutely. The tar process goes open("/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 5.
So perhaps the tar package is one that is built to use a newer (or
older?) version of libc. You're trying to install that version, but
because its not already installed the tar breaks (then why does it work
on its own but not when inside of dpkg???)

Perhaps when you successfully --unpack'ed the libc6 package it overwrote
/lib/libc6.so, but because it didn't 'install' it didn't update
dependent packages. Check the system details against the following from
a working up to date debian potato system 

ldd /bin/tar
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40016000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
ldd /usr/bin/dpkg
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40016000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

ls -alF /lib/libc[-.]*

-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   888096 Sep 26 02:30
/lib/libc-2.1.3.so*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   13 Oct  7 18:17 /lib/libc.so.6
-> libc-2.1.3.so*

fairway:~# dpkg -l tar libc6 dpkg apt gzip
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersion  Description
+++-=
ii  tar  1.13.17-2 GNU tar
ii  libc62.1.3-24  GNU C Library: Shared libraries and
Timezone data
ii  dpkg 1.6.15Package maintenance system for Debian
ii  apt  0.3.19Advanced front-end for dpkg
ii  gzip1.2.4-33.1 The GNU compression utility.

How does your system compare?

Crispin




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Re: strange apt-get upgrade issue

2002-10-07 Thread Colin Watson

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 06:32:22PM +0800, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 16:40, Chris McCormick wrote:
> > I'm suspecting i might have some kind of broken glibc action going on. I 
> > think that it might not be able to re-attach to tar because of an actual 
> > corruption in the library binaries that handle that kind of thing. Maybe 
> > it's half installed and some of the hooks to do with process attaching 
> > aren't there or some weirdness like that. Hopefully it isn't something 
> > sinister.
> 
> Absolutely. The tar process goes open("/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 5.
> So perhaps the tar package is one that is built to use a newer (or
> older?) version of libc. You're trying to install that version, but
> because its not already installed the tar breaks (then why does it work
> on its own but not when inside of dpkg???)

That honestly sounds really unlikely. I think it was actually a race
condition in the code in dpkg that calls tar, so it randomly broke
depending on timing. If I get a chance tonight I'll try to dig up the
old mailing list threads about it - I couldn't find anything in a quick
search of the bug tracking system, but it may not have been there.

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Re: Xfree86 Problem

2002-10-07 Thread Russell

Seneca wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:10:06AM +0200, Cuno Sonnemans wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I cant't get X to work.
> > I have an AMD 1900+, AbitKR7A-133 motherboard and a Club3D ATI RADEON
> > 8500 Pro videocard.
> > I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but that doesn't help very
> > much.
> > Does anybody know  the problem and know's how to solve it 
> 
> It is doubtful that anyone could help you find the problem. For us to
> help, we need more than "I can't get X to work" and some hardware. What
> output do you get when you try to start X? What is your XF86Config like?
> When we have more information, then we might be able to do a bit more.

could try XFree86 -configure


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PPT files

2002-10-07 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hi All !

Does Debian provide a tool for reading PPT files ?

Thanks in advace,
Jerome BENOIT


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Re: PPT files

2002-10-07 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier

On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 12:41, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> 
> Does Debian provide a tool for reading PPT files ?

Openoffice works fine.




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Re: PPT files

2002-10-07 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Thanks for the  quick reply !

Is there corresponding DEB (Woody) files somewhere in the web ?

Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 12:41, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> 
>>Does Debian provide a tool for reading PPT files ?
> 
>  
> Openoffice works fine.
> 



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RE: PPT files

2002-10-07 Thread Daniel Fabian

> > Does Debian provide a tool for reading PPT files ?
>
> Openoffice works fine.

Fine is relativ. *Never* prepare a presentation in OpenOffice and
present it in Powerpoint without going trough it first. The result can
be very embarrassing (I've been through it). But only reading it should
work. Mostly. Sometimes. Every now and then.

Daniel



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Re: PPT files

2002-10-07 Thread Antonio Rodriguez


deb http://www.phy.olemiss.edu/openoffice/ testing main contrib




Jerome BENOIT wrote:

> Thanks for the  quick reply !
>
> Is there corresponding DEB (Woody) files somewhere in the web ?
>
> Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 12:41, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
>>
>>> Does Debian provide a tool for reading PPT files ?
>>
>>
>>  
>> Openoffice works fine.
>>
>
>
>



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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2002 #19

2002-10-07 Thread Larry Shields

I have downloaded NetScape7's installer program, and it worked for
me...You might want to delete the installer that you now have and try
once again...
NetScape7 works just fine...

Larry/WD9ESU

 snip 

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 >
 > debian-user-digest DigestVolume 2002 : Issue 19
 >
 > Today's Topics:
 >   Re: network - notwork! unable to acc  [ Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
 >   =?GB2312?B?ZGViaWFuLXVzZXLE+rrDo6E=?  [ =?GB2312?B?0Oy8zsHZ?= 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 >   Re: OpenSSL suggested version [ Travis Crump 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 >   Netscape 7.0  [ lameth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
 >   Re: strange apt-get upgrade issue [ Crispin Wellington 
   Re: network - notwork! unable to acc  [ Tom Cook 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
 >   unsubscribe   [ Christopher Shea 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
 >   Re: Manually changing IRQ/reconfigur  [ Andy Saxena 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
 >   Re: Gnome session errors  [ Vineet Kumar 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 >   Re: configuring ADSL at Debian??  [ Crispin Wellington 
   Re: deb command - which package?  [ Osamu Aoki 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 >   Re: Netscape 7.0  [ ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
 >   Re: Khelpcenter glossary problem  [ Dirk Kostrewa 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 >   RE: Netscape 7.0  [ David Pastern 
   free software version of MATLAB   [ "Musang S.X." 
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 >   =?GB2312?B?ZGViaWFuLXVzZXLE+rrDo6E=?  [ =?GB2312?B?0Oy8zsHZ?= 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 >   Re: free software version of MATLAB   [ Oleg 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 >   Re: Netscape 7.0  [ ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
 >   Re: Locale and date/time settings [ Osamu Aoki 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 >   Samba 'security=server' Debian/Windo  [ Andy Saxena 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
 >
 >
 > 
 >
 > Subject:
 >
 > Re: network - notwork! unable to access lan and net
 > From:
 >
 > Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > Date:
 >
 > Mon, 07 Oct 2002 00:09:46 -0500
 > To:
 >
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >
 >
 > sandip wrote:
 >
 >>>  Sandip> status: i am unable to ping my machine's ip address,
 >>>
 >>
 >> thanx for the help. it was an oversight on my part. my apologies to
 >> the group. i had entered ip addresses incorrectly.
 >>
 >> subsequently, i have edited /etc/network/interfaces by hand and set
 >> the things right - by hand! i used vi for the first time and was
 >> amazed at the facilities it provides. all *i mean it* win editors look
 >> pale compared to vi!
 >>
 >>
 > vi ?!! You were amazed by vi?!
 >
 >> and all seems well now. however, i wanted to know if there is a tool/
 >> utility to do what i did by hand.
 >>
 >>
 > The installer routine normally handles network setup, but after initial
 > installation, I'm not aware of any tools for editing network setup in
 > Debian.
 >
 >> further i wanted to know if there are any other places where i need to
 >> change ip address my machine and gateway other than what i have
 >> already done.
 >>
 >>
 > Other possibly relevant files are /etc/hosts, /etc/hostname,
 > /etc/resolv.conf, and the /etc/network/ directory, but what you've done
 > should probably take care of your immediate needs.
 >
 >> i also will like to know what does entry 'network' in
 >> /etc/network/interfaces mean
 >>
 >  From "man interfaces":
 > The static Method
 >   This  method  may be used to define ethernet interfaces with
 > statically
 >   allocated IPv4 addresses.
 >
 >   Options
 >
 >  address address
 > Address (dotted quad) required
 >
 >  netmask netmask
 > Netmask (dotted quad) required
 >
 >  broadcast broadcast_address
 > Broadcast address (dotted quad)
 >
 >  network network_address
 > Network address (dotted quad) required for 2.0.x
 > kernels
 >
 >  gateway address
 > Default gateway (dotted quad)
 >
 >
 >> and where does one change dns server entries?
 >>
 >
 > /etc/resolv.conf
 >
 >> last but not the least - how do i access my lan resources? files on
 >> other pcs and printers connected to them? in windows i can do it!
 >>
 >>
 >
 > Depends on what the other machines and printers are, and the protocols
 > they speak. Windows computers usually speak SMB, and in order to access
 > Windows shares (file sharing and printer sharing), you'll need to
 > install and configure samba on your Linux box. Do a google for "samba
 > howto" and you'll find way more info that you ever wanted.
 >
 > If you're printing to networked printers (not Windows-shared printers),
 > you're probably interested in lpd and/or cups information.
 >
 > 
 >
 > Subject:
 

gnome2 instalacion

2002-10-07 Thread salva



Hola a todos,
 
tengo el debian woody 3.0 cn el kde 3.0, pero me 
gustaria probar el nuevo gnome2,
alguien q lo halla instalado me puede mandar la 
direccion de los paketes y describirme brevemente como puedo proceder a la 
instalacion cn exito?
 
 
saludos 
 
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Re: disabling framebuffer device

2002-10-07 Thread Paul Lewis

I seem to have accidently cracked it, look in the /etc/X11 and edit 
XF86Config-4. Find the section that says "section 'device'", and in 
that section there is a field "Option   useFBdevicetrue" change 
true to 'false' and that seems to have done it for me.

People who know much more about Xfree86 may say there is a proper way 
to do this?

Regards

On 2002.10.06 15:49 Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> How can I disable (rmmod) framebuffer device which was activated by
> "modprobe tdfxfb". (I am using stock 2.4.19-686-smp kernel-image)
> 
> Simple "rmmod tdfxfb" does not work:
> 
>   # "rmmod tdfxfb
>   tdfxfb: Device or resource busy
> 
> I know I can reboot but that is not cool.
> 
> Osamu
> 
> PS: I am having funny cursor (Big white rectangle) problem in FB.
> That
> is the reason I want to disable it.  Is there any good FB guide?
> 
> LDP document is old (2000 for 2.2 kernel)
> 
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Re: Xfree86 Problem

2002-10-07 Thread Paul Lewis

You could try chedking the hardware compatibility list to see if your 
video card is listed as supported hardware.

You might try /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config or xf86cfg and walk through the 
configuration selecting as a first step a bog standard vga 
configuration.

On 2002.10.07 10:10 Cuno Sonnemans wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I cant't get X to work.
> I have an AMD 1900+, AbitKR7A-133 motherboard and a Club3D ATI RADEON 
> 8500 Pro videocard.
> I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but that doesn't help 
> very much.
> Does anybody know  the problem and know's how to solve it 
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Cuno
> 
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X-server won't start on 3.0

2002-10-07 Thread Cuno Sonnemans

Hi,

I installed Debian 3.0 today, but X won't work. I've put my 
 XF86Config-4 and Log file in the email.
I have an Club3d ATI Radeon 8500 Pro video card.
I hope someone can help me out ???

Cuno

### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make 
changes
# before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the
# "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see "How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier"Generic Keyboard"
Driver"keyboard"
Option"CoreKeyboard"
Option"XkbRules""xfree86"
Option"XkbModel""pc104"
Option"XkbLayout""us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier"Configured Mouse"
Driver"mouse"
Option"CorePointer"
Option"Device""/dev/ttyS0"
Option"Protocol""Logitech"
Option"Emulate3Buttons""true"
Option"ZAxisMapping""4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier"Generic Mouse"
Driver"mouse"
Option"SendCoreEvents""true"
Option"Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option"Protocol""ImPS/2"
Option"Emulate3Buttons""true"
Option"ZAxisMapping""4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier"Generic Video Card"
Driver"ati"
Option"UseFBDev""true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier"Generic Monitor"
HorizSync30-60
VertRefresh50-75
Option"DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier"Default Screen"
Device"Generic Video Card"
Monitor"Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth24
SubSection "Display"
Depth1
Modes"1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth4
Modes"1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth8
Modes"1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth15
Modes"1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth16
Modes"1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth24
Modes"1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier"Default Layout"
Screen"Default Screen"
InputDevice"Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice"Configured Mouse"
InputDevice"Generic Mouse"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode0666
EndSection

### END DEBCONF SECTION

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RE: A ? for all you old time linux users

2002-10-07 Thread Doug MacFarlane

On 06 Oct 2002, 17:14:23, Daniel Fabian wrote:
> This does not quite answer your question, but there is this new (very
> new, it's not yet released) Linux distro called SourceMage
> (http://www.sourcemage.org/). It's entierly based on sources (I was
> told). A friend tried it and is rather pleased with it. However he said
> it takes forever to install, for obvious reasons (everything is compiled
> on your machine). Once it's installed it's said to be very fast. The
> downloadable .iso is 80MB, so I guess it's worth a try.

Wow - I'm having SunOS flashbacks, and recalling days of using the old version
of gcc to compile the new version, and then using the new version to compile
itself  over and over until there were no diffs
between the last two compiles . . . . 

Ugh . . .

madmac

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Re: vsftpd problems

2002-10-07 Thread Johann Spies

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 09:12:54AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I installed vsftpd but am unable to connect to my machine using ftp.  I
> believe my inetd.conf file is correct; it has the line;
> ftp stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/sbin/tcpd
> /usr/sbin/vsftpd
> 

You could nmap the machine to check on which ports it is listening.

Did you restart inetd after installing and configuring vsftpd?

I use it on a ftp-server with xinetd and it works nicely.

Regards.
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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2002 #19

2002-10-07 Thread Claudio Bley

On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 13:24, Larry Shields wrote:
> I have downloaded NetScape7's installer program, and it worked for
> me...You might want to delete the installer that you now have and try
> once again...
> NetScape7 works just fine...
> 
> Larry/WD9ESU

... and you really needed to quote the whole digest in order to point
that out ??

Additionally, it would've been nice changing the subject to a more
appropriate one.

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Re: isag usage?

2002-10-07 Thread Johann Spies

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 03:05:52PM -0400, stan wrote:
> I just installed the systat package, and was pleased to note that it
> sugested an interactive graphical viewer for the log files created by
> sascd. However, I can't figure out how to use it :-(
> 
> I ran it with the -p option pointed to the /var/log/* directory that sascd
> seems to be creating a log file in, but when I choose a graph it compains
> about no data source.

I have the same experience.  Although /usr/bin/isag refers to
/var/log/sysstat as the path for the datafiles, it reports "no file".

Johann
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Re: postfix: very long startup time (few minutes)

2002-10-07 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney

-- Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Sunday, 06 October 2002, 08:43 PM -0700):
>   for some reason the postfix thatkes a LONG time to startup (during 
> boot). any ideas why? It seems like it's getting worse over time.
> 
>   this is on debian unstable.
I've used postfix on unstable and testing, and don't see this.

>   I don't have too many emails and I am not aware of any long queues 
> waiting, this is on my personal workstation, I get few hundred emails a 
> day (mostly mailing lists), send only few emails a day and normal 
> operation of computer seems to be unaffected by email, the only problem 
> is when the postfix service is started.
> 
>   I am not 100% sure it's postfix, at the time when it's started the 
> system is not up yet. restarting postfix doesn't take too long - less 
> than 1 second (/etc/init.d/postfix stop; /etc/init.d/postfix start). 
It *probably* isn't postfix, then. Is this the last daemon to start
during boot? Even if it isn't, it's possible that a previous daemon or
the next daemon in the boot order is causing the delay. I know, for
instance, that on my machine, the USB routines will be showing
on-screen, and I'll have a delay before the last item shows... but that
this is due to my webserver taking a while to load (on average, about
10-15 seconds!). You might try going through each of the scripts in your
default runlevel to see which ones have delays. If postfix doesn't take
long to start when you do it manually, my bet is you'll find another
script in there that does.

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Re: gnome2 instalacion

2002-10-07 Thread Jean-marc Harang

Le Lundi 6 Janvier 1997 23:16, salva a écrit :
> Hola a todos,
>
> tengo el debian woody 3.0 cn el kde 3.0, pero me gustaria probar el nuevo
> gnome2, alguien q lo halla instalado me puede mandar la direccion de los
> paketes y describirme brevemente como puedo proceder a la instalacion cn
> exito?
> saludos

The same in english, please ?

Hey : [Lundi 6 Janvier 1997 23:16]  !

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Fw: gnome2 instalacion

2002-10-07 Thread salva



Hi 
 
I have debian woody 3.0 installed with kde3.0, and 
i want to install gnome2,
Who can send me the packages adress and a 
installation explain.
 
pls
 
    thanks sava
 
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USB hotplug, woody kernel

2002-10-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,  

  I have Woody, nominally with USB support (that is, I see /dev/usb),
but I can't get it working.  I tried simply "mount -t vfat /dev/usb
/camera" , plus variations of vfat as auto, and variations of /dev/usb
as /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2.  That didn't work:  it said my camera (a
cheapo) was not recognized as a block device.

  I've been over to linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net, and it looks like I
need to get my hotplugging up to speed.  I have
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/usb/hotplug.txt, but do not have
/sbin/hotplug .  So it would seem *some* hotplugging software is there,
but perhaps not everything necessary 

  What do I need to do, Debian-style, to get my hotplugging up and
running?  (some kind of apt-get, plus rebuild kernel?  Or something
else?)  

  - Mike

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Re: disabling framebuffer device

2002-10-07 Thread Osamu Aoki

Hi,
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 01:21:48PM +0100, Paul Lewis wrote:
> I seem to have accidently cracked it, look in the /etc/X11 and edit 
> XF86Config-4. Find the section that says "section 'device'", and in 
> that section there is a field "Option   useFBdevicetrue" change 
> true to 'false' and that seems to have done it for me.

I am on Linux console only machine. X is not involved with my question.

Thanks.

> People who know much more about Xfree86 may say there is a proper way 
> to do this?
> 
> Regards
> 
> On 2002.10.06 15:49 Osamu Aoki wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >How can I disable (rmmod) framebuffer device which was activated by
> >"modprobe tdfxfb". (I am using stock 2.4.19-686-smp kernel-image)
> >
> >Simple "rmmod tdfxfb" does not work:
> >
> >  # "rmmod tdfxfb
> >  tdfxfb: Device or resource busy
> >
> >I know I can reboot but that is not cool.
> >
> >Osamu
> >
> >PS: I am having funny cursor (Big white rectangle) problem in FB.
> >That
> >is the reason I want to disable it.  Is there any good FB guide?
> >
> >LDP document is old (2000 for 2.2 kernel)
> >
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Re: ASUS motherboard

2002-10-07 Thread Frederik Dannemare

Jim McCloskey wrote:
[cut...]
> Can I ask two questions?
> 
> 1. Is the 2.4.20-pre8-ac2 kernel sturdy enough to function as the
>kernel for a server (mail and web mainly, about 30 users)?

I would say yes. Others may disagree. But you could start out with this 
kernel on a test machine or something, before putting it on a production 
server. I would do this for any kernel.

> 
> 2. Would you be willing to share the config file you used to get UDMA
>support?

you may find it at http://sentinel.dk/config-2.4.20-pre8-ac3

look for options with "IDEDMA" and "SIS5513". These should be the 
interesting ones.

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UnitedLinux and Debian

2002-10-07 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini

Hello!

I am concerned about the future of UnitedLinux (UL). The idea of 
Conectiva,
SuSe, Caldera and TurboLinux is to define new standards trough UL. How 
this will affect the rest of the Linux world, the non commercial one? 
Will the distributions which not adopt the UL standards become more and 
more unpopular? How UL will affect the impact of Debian in the 
community?

TIA!

Marcelo

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Re: A ? for all you old time linux users

2002-10-07 Thread Joey Hess

Chris Cioffi wrote:
> That said, I'm considering doing some benchmarks with OpenSSL.  I keep 
> hearing that _maybe_ compiling OpenSSL for you specific platform will 
> have Big Performance Yeilds(tm).  Though actually putting that idea into 
> production will have to wait until my systems are so loaded that might 
> make a difference.

Yes it really does. The openssl in unstable includes optimized libraries
for serveral processors that really speed them up, as much as 2x in some
cases. This is a good example of heavy number crunching code that can
use compile-time optimization (and ls is not .. ;-).

A little-known fact is that linux's linker makes it very easy to produce
optimized little libraries (which can contain only the tight loop that
really needs optimization in an application, for instance), drop them in
an appropriate /usr/lib/ directory and have the best one be
picked automatically at program run (well, link) time. This makes it a
lot more practical to do per-processor optimizations on binary
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Re: USB hotplug, woody kernel

2002-10-07 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney

-- DSC@Siltec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Monday, 07 October 2002, 03:06 PM +0200):
>   I have Woody, nominally with USB support (that is, I see /dev/usb),
> but I can't get it working.  I tried simply "mount -t vfat /dev/usb
> /camera" , plus variations of vfat as auto, and variations of /dev/usb
> as /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2.  That didn't work:  it said my camera (a
> cheapo) was not recognized as a block device.

Do you have generic scsi support running -- this would be the module
"sg"? What about the usb-storage module? (To find out, do an 'lsmod' as
root, and see if these appear.) If not, do a 'modprobe sg usb-storage'
as root -- and you'll need to add these to /etc/modules.

If these modules are not present on your system (you'll know if you get
an error message), you'll need to install a different kernel (I'm using
the kernel-image-2.4.18-586tsc on my system, and it works) or compile
your own with the proper modules.

Both of these modules -- usb-storage and sg -- are needed to communicate
to usb storage devices. Once these are loaded, you should be able to use
the camera just as you were trying.

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Re: tiny mouse howto update - console gpm, X and mouse wheel

2002-10-07 Thread agno

I seem to recall something about autops2 not really working
correctly.  I'd be inclined to remove bits that refer to autops2.
Also, in the docs, it has ps2auto, but gpm -t help lists autops2.  On
the same lines as the ps2auto, it has "(Woody)" in parens--I'd
probably move that to a comment on the previous line.

Andrew.


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Re: Repartioning NTFS

2002-10-07 Thread Lacoste (Frisurf)

On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 11:12, ben wrote:
> On Monday 07 October 2002 01:17 am, Andy Saxena wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 12:47:36AM -0700, Michael Richardson wrote:
> > > What I'm trying to do is setup a duel-boot system that will be running my
> > > current OS (Windows XP) and Debian Woody. My problem is that my hard disk
> > > is a NTFS file system and the FIPS program they say to use in the install
> > > manual doesn't say anything about repartioning anything but FAT file
> > > systems. If anyone knows of a free disk partioner that will allow me to
> > > make another partition without destroying the files already on my system
> > > I would greatly appreciate a responce.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > MICHAEL
> >
> > I'd suspect there's no such free software in the Linux world that will
> > repartition or resize NTFS partitions. If there were, it'd imply an
> > ability to write to NTFS partitions, which is not available as of this
> > moment.

non free programs should do the work. Partition Magic is an example. But
I am sure you knew it. That doesn't answer your question, but that
solves your problem :)

Jerome


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"MUD" Game Engines

2002-10-07 Thread Soul Computer

I was wondering if anyone would know where I
could find "MUD" game engines for Linux.

Please "Reply All" when you reply to make certain
I get any information you send my way.

Thank you very much for any help you can give me.

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  And A Cherry  ... <-
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Re: Sorting locally delivered email using Procmail

2002-10-07 Thread Keith G. Murphy

Andy Saxena wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 10:45:48AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
> 
>>Actually, I just use fetchmail to download from my ISP's POP3 store to 
>>my local Cyrus IMAP server (via procmail).
>>
>>So your situation is completely different.  I don't see how you could 
>>use fetchmail to do what you are wanting to do.
>>
>>What happens if you run cyrdeliver manually while logged on as the 
>>'mail' user (assuming your exim is running as that)?  You might have 
>>some kind of permissions problem.  fetchmail is running as root for me, 
>>so that's might be why it works for me, but not in the context of exim 
>>for you.
> 
> 
> Looks like there's a great deal of misunderstanding/ miscommunication
> about what I am trying to achieve.
> 
> For details, please read my original posting. Here's the situation in
> brief:
> Deliver local mail to users in such a way that they can run their
> procmail recipes. For e.g., if a user gets all the mail about cron jobs,
> he should be able to direct that into the =inbox.cron folder.
> 
Well, I don't see what I'm misunderstanding.  My points were

* When one of your users sends a mail, it's going to exim.  At that 
point, exim needs to deliver it, and fetchmail really can't (well, 
shouldn't) get involved - cyrdeliver, as you are doing, seems the proper 
thing to do.  Therefore, I mentioned that my setup, where I use 
fetchmail, because I want to download mail from a POP account, won't 
work (well, isn't the best way) for you.

* Since cyrdeliver is running under exim's user (mail) for you, and 
either under root or the recipient's user for me, your problems may stem 
from permissions, and you need to see what happens if you try doing the 
delivery under a different username.


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apt-setup

2002-10-07 Thread Yildiz, Murat



Hi,
I have scanned all the cd's (8/8) with apt-setup , but still can't see lots
of packages within dselect.What am I doing wrong or do I miss something?
thx


Murat


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Re: Locale and date/time settings

2002-10-07 Thread David P James

Osamu Aoki was roused into action on 07.10.2002 03:29 and wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 11:33:27PM -0400, David P James wrote:
> 
>>Does anyone happen to know which locale to set for date/time to get a 
>>date in the following format?
>>/mm/dd or -mm-dd
>>
>>Or, if no such locale exists, then is it possible to generate one?
> 
> 
>  $  LC_TIME=ja_JP ls -l
>  drwxr-xr-x4 nospam   nospam   4096 2002-08-29 10:28 zlib-1.1.4
>  ...
> 
>  You need to generate ja_JP locale, though.


I did this, and the right format is used, but unfortunately the '-'s 
were replaced by other characters. This is somewhat frustrating; for 
starters, why is the default date format on the 'internationalist' 
Debian OS the illogical US standard? And second, why is there no 
easy-to-use ISO format date? Right now I'm using the German standard, 
which is better than what I had, but still not what I want.

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using xpdf to open pdf files from galeon

2002-10-07 Thread Shri Shrikumar

Hi,

Can anyone point me in the right direction to be able to open pdf files
directly from galeon using xpdf instead of the default(gv) because the
default just shows a blank page.

I installed plugger at some point. Here is the relevant part from
/etc/pluggerrc-4.0

application/pdf: pdf: PDF file
application/x-pdf: pdf: PDF file
text/pdf: pdf: PDF file
text/x-pdf: pdf: PDF file
#   repeat swallow(documentShell) fill: acroread -geometry
+9000+9000 -xrm '*userFrontEndProgram: FALSE' "$file"
#   repeat swallow(gv) fill: gv -safer -quiet -antialias -geometry
+9000+9000 "$file" 2>/dev/null
repeat swallow(xpdf) fill: xpdf -g +9000+9000 -err "$file"


In the Settings->Preferences->Handlers->MIME Types section in Galeon,
there seems to be three settings for pdf as below

application/pdf Run with helper xpdf -q %s  True
text/pdfAsk the UsernoneFalse
text/x-pdf  Ask the usernoneFalse

How would I even go about troubleshooting this - How can I find out what
application is being used or even what type Galeon thinks the file is. I
have tried 

% telnet www.whatever.com 80
...
GET /index.pdf

but that only returns the PDF itself - no headers with Content-Type.

Any help in this is appreciated.

Regards,



Shri

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Re: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-07 Thread Burkhard Ritter

On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, lameth wrote:

> Has anyone gotten netscape 7.0 to install yet? When I tried I received
> the error message;
> ./netscape-installer error while loading shared libraries:
> libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
>
> I know I have libc6 installed and I just installed libstdc++2.2 other
> than that I do believe woody meets the requirements.

/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 -> libstdc++-2-libc6.1-1-2.9.0.so

does this symlink exist?


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Re: UnitedLinux and Debian

2002-10-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On Monday 07 October 2002 07:41, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I am concerned about the future of UnitedLinux (UL). The idea of
> Conectiva,
> SuSe, Caldera and TurboLinux is to define new standards trough UL. How
> this will affect the rest of the Linux world, the non commercial one?
> Will the distributions which not adopt the UL standards become more and
> more unpopular? How UL will affect the impact of Debian in the
> community?
>
> TIA!
>
> Marcelo

United Linux does not make standards for the Linux community, the Free 
Standards Group does via things like the LSB.  United Linux is simply (yes, 
oversimplification to follow) about a group of companies working together to 
reduce cost and increase profits.  If this affects us it is because they may 
start to erode Red Hat's dominance.


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Re: "MUD" Game Engines

2002-10-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On Monday 07 October 2002 08:00, Soul Computer wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone would know where I
> could find "MUD" game engines for Linux.
>
> Please "Reply All" when you reply to make certain
> I get any information you send my way.
>
> Thank you very much for any help you can give me.
>

by looking at the games section of the archive perhaps.


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Re: Repartioning NTFS

2002-10-07 Thread Johann Spies

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 03:06:27PM +0200, Jerome Lacoste (Frisurf) wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 11:12, ben wrote:
> > On Monday 07 October 2002 01:17 am, Andy Saxena wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 12:47:36AM -0700, Michael Richardson wrote:
> > > > What I'm trying to do is setup a duel-boot system that will be
> > > >running my current OS (Windows XP) and Debian Woody. My problem
> > > >is that my hard disk is a NTFS file system and the FIPS program
> > > >they say to use in the install manual doesn't say anything
> > > >about repartioning anything but FAT file systems. If anyone
> > > >knows of a free disk partioner that will allow me to make
> > > >another partition without destroying the files already on my
> > > >system I would greatly appreciate a responce.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > MICHAEL
> > >
> > > I'd suspect there's no such free software in the Linux world
> > > that will repartition or resize NTFS partitions. If there were,
> > > it'd imply an ability to write to NTFS partitions, which is not
> > > available as of this moment.
> 
> non free programs should do the work. Partition Magic is an
> example. But I am sure you knew it. That doesn't answer your
> question, but that solves your problem :)

I have successfully repartioned a ntfs partition with parted last
year.

Just read the documentation and work carefully.  Make sure that your
data is on a part of the disk which will not be affected.

Regards.
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Re: strange apt-get upgrade issue

2002-10-07 Thread Mike Egglestone

Hi,
What does your /etc/apt/sources.list say?

Mike

Quoting Chris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi!
> Firstly, my apologies if this is the wrong forum to post to, but from what 
> I've seen it seems like it's the correct place.
> 
> I am having a strange apt-get upgrade issue on one of our production boxes:
> 
> xx:~# apt-get update
> [this works fine]
> 
> xx:~# apt-get upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.3-24) but 2.1.3-23 is installed
>locales: Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.3-24) but 2.1.3-23 is installed
> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
> 
> xx:~# apt-get -f upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Correcting dependencies... Done
> 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 2 packages not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B/1901kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> dpkg-deb: wait for tar failed: No child processes
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.1.3-24_i386.deb 
> (--unpack):
>   subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>   /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.1.3-24_i386.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> I've searched through the mailing list archives and found one post where 
> someone had the same problem, but it "mysteriously went away".
> Sometimes If I manually unpack the archives using dpkg-deb --unpack it 
> works. It's very transient - that is to say, sometimes it will just work. 
> for example, i can issue the exact same command line twice in a row and the 
> second or third time it will just work.
> 
> It's still a potato system.
> 
> Any help at all appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chris.
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Re: sound with a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio

2002-10-07 Thread John Foster

On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 02:54, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> i am trying to get the sound working with a 2.4.18 kernel and the
> onboard chip of my athlon board...
==
You will most likely need to recompile your kernel and include the sound
driver in the kernel. You will not need alsa or oss for this to work so
do NOT select them when setting the kernel configs. You will need arts
if you use kde and you will need esd or alsa to comply with some of the
dependencies of other applications I am using this chipset with KDE3 on
SID and the sound is fantastic.
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rpm

2002-10-07 Thread dizma



I'm trying to install rav for qmail from rpm 
package, but I'm getting the following error:
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No 
such file or directory (2)
 
HELP
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Accessing USB Camera pics

2002-10-07 Thread DSC Siltec

Okay, I have Debian, Woody, Hotplug, USB, and a cheap junk USB camera.

How do I access my pics?  I'd really like three answers:
   (1) How to access them directly as files, if possible
   (2) Best way to download them as pictures, and save them
   (3) How to create nice compressed .mpgs from it (my camera supports 8 
seconds of movie, high res, 32 seconds low res.).


-SPECIFICS--


Okay, got my USB up and running:  hotplug installs via dselect, and
will put a directory in /proc/bus/usb.


I even found that, having created a "/camera" directory I can mount it
manually to camera via

mount -t usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb /camera

So far, so good.  But when I look at this directory (or the hotplug 
directory), I see that I only have the following:

[001]  devices  drivers

[001] in turn contains files 001  and 004, with a few junk lines of data
(sorry, don't have DOS Debug, and don't know of an equivalent that would
allow me to easily figure out the binary code).

Devices is a file that contains the following:

T:  Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=1 Spd=12 MxCh=2
B:  Alloc=0/900 us (0%), #Int=0, #iso=0
D:  Ver=1.00 Cls=09 (hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=8 #Cfgs=1
P:  Vendor=000 ProdID= Rev=0.00
S:  Product=USB UHCI Root Hub
S:  SerialNumber=1020
C:  #Ifs=1 Cfg#=1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA
I:  If#=0 Alt=0 #EPs=1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=255ms
T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=4 Spd=12 MxCh=0
D:  Ver=1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=8 #Cfgs=1
P:  Vendor=0553  ProdID=0202 Rev=0.00
S:  Manufacturer=STMicroelectronics
S:  Product =USB Dual-mode Camera
C:* #Ifs=1 Cfg#=1 Atr=a0 MxPwr = 70mA
I:  If#=0 Alt=1 #EPs=1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=54 Ivl=0ms

(file attached)

 From this, I deduce that I have an STMicro camera, and it is device
4 (004).  But I don't know how to access the pictures


I tried installing SANE from Debian, but as of (no reboot yet), KWord
doesn't recognize SANE.


T:  Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
B:  Alloc=  0/900 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  0
D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 0.00
S:  Product=USB UHCI Root Hub
S:  SerialNumber=1020
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   8 Ivl=255ms
T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=  4 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=0553 ProdID=0202 Rev= 0.00
S:  Manufacturer=STMicroelectronics
S:  Product=USB Dual-mode Camera
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr= 70mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 1 #EPs= 1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=  0ms



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dpkg --list truncating lines

2002-10-07 Thread Grant Edwards


A minor but annoying problem:

When I do an interactive dpkg --list, it displayes complete
description summaries, but when I redirect output to a file, it
truncates many of the lines.  Is there a way to tell dpkg not
to truncate output?

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Re: aha-2940 scsi controller problem

2002-10-07 Thread Marc Wilson

On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 12:55:08PM +0200, Andraz Sraka wrote:
> I'm having difficulty making teac scsi cdrom to work with aha-2940 scsi
> controller under kernel 2.4.19.

Termination.  In my experience, the automatic termination on the 2940
usually isn't.  Make sure that the bus is terminated properly and if at all
possible don't have the 2940 handle it at all.

And before you ask, yes it's entirely possible that even a screwed-up SCSI
bus would work well enough for the host adapter to identify the drive, but
still not be able to actually use it.

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Re: Locale and date/time settings

2002-10-07 Thread Colin Watson

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:06:31AM -0400, David P James wrote:
> Osamu Aoki was roused into action on 07.10.2002 03:29 and wrote:
> > $  LC_TIME=ja_JP ls -l
> > drwxr-xr-x4 nospam   nospam   4096 2002-08-29 10:28 zlib-1.1.4
> > ...
> >
> > You need to generate ja_JP locale, though.
> 
> I did this, and the right format is used, but unfortunately the '-'s 
> were replaced by other characters. This is somewhat frustrating; for 
> starters, why is the default date format on the 'internationalist' 
> Debian OS the illogical US standard?

There's nothing we can do about it: it's how the C locale is defined.

> And second, why is there no easy-to-use ISO format date? Right now I'm
> using the German standard, which is better than what I had, but still
> not what I want.

There's en_DK, which despite being a "joke invention"
(http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/i18n/2001-April/001727.html) seems to
produce what you want.

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Re: apt-setup

2002-10-07 Thread Colin Watson

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 05:10:46PM +0200, Yildiz, Murat wrote:
> I have scanned all the cd's (8/8) with apt-setup , but still can't see
> lots of packages within dselect.What am I doing wrong or do I miss
> something?

Did you run 'Update' from dselect?

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Re: Debian 3 Woddy und Geforce 4MX

2002-10-07 Thread Marc Wilson

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 08:16:11PM +1000, Matthias Szupryczynski wrote:
> Second, as far as I know, Woody should have no problem running X with a
> Geforce 4 MX card ...

Woody will indeed have a problem running a GF4 card... if I remember
correctly the 'nv' driver in XFree 4.1.0 doesn't know what one is.  You
have to use nVidia's binary-only driver.

I believe there is support in 4.2.x, though:

[09:04][pts/8][drivers]
$ strings nv_drv.o | grep "GeForce4 MX"
GeForce4 MX 420
GeForce4 MX 440
GeForce4 MX 460

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Re: dpkg --list truncating lines

2002-10-07 Thread Colin Watson

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 10:51:31AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> A minor but annoying problem:
> 
> When I do an interactive dpkg --list, it displayes complete
> description summaries, but when I redirect output to a file, it
> truncates many of the lines.  Is there a way to tell dpkg not
> to truncate output?

Set $COLUMNS to something large, or use the new dpkg-query with whatever
format you want.

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Re: X-server won't start on 3.0

2002-10-07 Thread Kent West

Cuno Sonnemans wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I installed Debian 3.0 today, but X won't work. I've put my XF86Config-4 
> and Log file in the email.
> I have an Club3d ATI Radeon 8500 Pro video card.
> I hope someone can help me out ???
> 
> Cuno
> 
> ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION



> Section "Device"
>Identifier"Generic Video Card"
>Driver"ati"
>Option"UseFBDev""true"
> EndSection

You might try setting "UseFBDev" to "false".



> (II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.3.6) for chipsets: ati, ativga
> (II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets: ATI Rage 128 RE (PCI),
>ATI Rage 128 RF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RG (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RK (PCI),
>ATI Rage 128 RL (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro PD (PCI),
>ATI Rage 128 Pro PF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro PP (PCI),
>ATI Rage 128 Pro PR (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Mobility LE (PCI),
>ATI Rage 128 Mobility LF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF (AGP),
>ATI Rage 128 Mobility ML (AGP)
> (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
>ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP),
>ATI Radeon VE (AGP)
> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
> (II) ATI:  Candidate "Device" section "Generic Video Card".
> (WW) ATI:  PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected!
> (EE) No devices detected.
> 
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found

My first guess is that the 8500 is too new for the X server, but I 
really don't understand such things. Still, you might try using the 
'svga' driver instead of the 'ati' driver, just to see what happens.

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Re: USB hotplug, woody kernel

2002-10-07 Thread Don Reid

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 03:06:00PM +0200, DSC@Siltec wrote:
> Hi,  
> 
>   I have Woody, nominally with USB support (that is, I see /dev/usb),
> but I can't get it working.

I just got it working this weekend.  Seeing /dev/usb in not enough.

First as has been said, you need the usb-storage module.

I also had to turn on USB support in my BIOS.

> I tried simply "mount -t vfat /dev/usb /camera"

Should this work?  Here is how I did it.

The usb-storage module emulates a SCSI channel, so it
needs SCSI support compiled in too.  Then it creates a psuedo
SCSI conection.  Cat /proc/scsi/scsi to see which one.

Mount the appropriate SCSI dev file.  The tricky part is that you
have to look at all of the SCSI devices and figure out which ones
will get the sd devices and which yours will be.  I had something
like this (I faked the camera line as its not there right now):

Attached devices: 
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00
  Vendor: HP   Model: HP35470A Rev: 1009
  Type:   Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
  Vendor: UMAX Model: Astra 600S   Rev: V1.6
  Type:   Scanner  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: TEAC Model: CD-W54E  Rev: 1.1B
  Type:   CD-ROM   
Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: HP   Model:   Rev: 1.0
  Type:   USB-Storage

Since the Camera is the first disk like device, it got sda.  To mount
the first partition, I used:

mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera

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Re: Q: Xfree troubles!!! help, please

2002-10-07 Thread Kent West

Raúl Wild-Spain wrote:
> Hi! Jerome,
> 
> 
>>What does running "dpkg --audit" tell you?
> 
> 
> she says nothing!!
> 
> 
>>If all packages are installed and configured, you could try running
>>as root, "XFree86 -configure". It may give you a minimally working
>>XF86Config-4 that you can tweak into something more useful.
> 
> 
> I executed and it has created XF86Config.new.
> 
> From XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new  I can see exactly the same
> problem:
> 
> ...
> Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
> 
> Fatal server error:
> could not open default font 'fixed'
> ...

Do you have installed "xfonts-base"?




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Re: Accessing USB Camera pics

2002-10-07 Thread Craig Dickson

DSC Siltec wrote:

> Okay, I have Debian, Woody, Hotplug, USB, and a cheap junk USB camera.
> 
> How do I access my pics?  I'd really like three answers:
>   (1) How to access them directly as files, if possible
>   (2) Best way to download them as pictures, and save them
>   (3) How to create nice compressed .mpgs from it (my camera supports 8 
> seconds of movie, high res, 32 seconds low res.).

1 and 2 are your current issue. Let's not worry about 3 until you have
a way of getting the pictures off the camera and into your computer.

> Okay, got my USB up and running:  hotplug installs via dselect, and
> will put a directory in /proc/bus/usb.
> 
> 
> I even found that, having created a "/camera" directory I can mount it
> manually to camera via
> 
> mount -t usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb /camera

This can't be right. You don't mount your USB bus as a filesystem. You
might mount a particular USB device (which would be some device node
under /proc/bus/usb, or possibly somewhere else due to emulation
performed by the device's driver), but not the bus itself.

> Devices is a file that contains the following:

Devices is a virtual file created by the USB subsystem that describes
the USB devices currently connected to your machine. The interesting part
of your devices file is the following:

> T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=4 Spd=12 MxCh=0
> D:  Ver=1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=8 #Cfgs=1
> P:  Vendor=0553  ProdID=0202 Rev=0.00
> S:  Manufacturer=STMicroelectronics
> S:  Product =USB Dual-mode Camera
> C:* #Ifs=1 Cfg#=1 Atr=a0 MxPwr = 70mA
> I:  If#=0 Alt=1 #EPs=1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
> E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=54 Ivl=0ms

This describes what the system knows about your camera. The two S: lines
show that the device describes itself as an STMicroelectronics USB
Dual-mode Camera. The end of the I: line says Driver=(none), which means
that your computer doesn't have a driver for that camera, or doesn't
know what driver to use for it.

A simple Google search for information on this camera found this page:

http://stv0680-usb.sourceforge.net

which is all about Linux support for this model of camera.

Craig


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Re: rpm

2002-10-07 Thread Colin Watson

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 06:47:29PM +0300, dizma wrote:
> I'm trying to install rav for qmail from rpm package, but I'm getting
> the following error:
> error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)

You can't safely install RPMs using the rpm package in Debian. It's
there for other purposes. I suggest using alien to convert it to a .deb
instead.

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Re: kbdrate set by normal users

2002-10-07 Thread Jeff

Jason Pepas, 2002-Oct-06 18:11 -0500:
> hello,
> 
> I would like to change the default keyboard repeat rate.
> 
> I have tried writting a /etc/ini.d/kbdrate.sh script, but it does not seem to 
> change things globally.
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> thanks,
> jason pepas

Hey Jason,

I'm not sure I know what you mean by "globally".  Do you mean for all
users?  Does it work at all?

I do this on my laptop (Woody, 2.4.19) through the use of APMD.  I put
the script below in /etc/apm/resume.d/ called typematic:


#!/bin/sh
# Set keyboard repeat rate to something fast
case "$1" in
resume|start)
 if [ -f /sbin/kbdrate ]; then
 kbdrate -r 30 -d 250
 else
 exit 1
 fi
 ;;
*)
 exit 0
 ;;
esac


It seems to work when the system is rebooted too, although I don't
understand how.  Also, if your script doesn't work at all at boot, it
could be because you haven't place a link to it in /etc/rc2.d.

jc


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Re: odd networking problem

2002-10-07 Thread Jeff

Ed McMan, 2002-Oct-06 19:22 -0400:

> 
> Here is the weird part.  This computer works fine using the same
> configuration in Windows.  All the other computers work fine too.  I
> have been trying to figure out what the problem is, so I did some
> packet sniffing with ethereal on the router.
> 
> I listened for any packets going to or from the debian machine in
> question.  I ran ping (some host on the internet) and let it sit.  The
> first two pings went through, and then it stopped.  The *really* weird
> part is that the machine stopped sending the pings!  Well, the router
> wasn't receiving them anyway.  Another oddity is that running
> /etc/init.d/networking restart on the workstation would fix the problem, for a few 
>more
> packets.  After letting ping sit, another ping would go through about
> every five minutes.

This is weird.  A few thoughts...

- are there firewall rules on the router that might be limiting ICMP?

- could system be on a bad switch port? or patch cable?

- are there errors being generated on the eth1 interface,
  e.g. ifconfig eth1 ?  perhaps a bad NIC?

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Re: using xpdf to open pdf files from galeon

2002-10-07 Thread Jens Grivolla

Shri Shrikumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> % telnet www.whatever.com 80
> GET /index.pdf
> 
> but that only returns the PDF itself - no headers with Content-Type.

try `wget -S ...`

HTH, HAND,

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Re: ifup, dhcp troubleshooting

2002-10-07 Thread Jeff

paul, 2002-Oct-06 22:36 -0400:
> Hello, I've recently compiled a fresh kernel (to get my audio working) and
> have lost connectivity.  I have a sis900 adapter built in to my board and I
> configured the kernel to include the sis900 driver.  The driver seems to be
> working, ifconfig -a shows eth0, but I can't get an IP.  If i try ifup eth0,
> after a few seconds i get this:
> 
> 'eth0: Media Link On 100mbps full-duplex'
> 
> then it just sits there, so i ctl-c after a minute or two.  Everything
> worked before I compiled my own kernel, what components/options may I have
> neglected in the kernel?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Paul.

ifup refers to /etc/networks/interfaces for it's configuration.  If
you don't have an IP configuration or a reference to use DHCP, then
what you see is what you get.

jc

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cd's listing

2002-10-07 Thread Anton



Hi there,
is there some explination on what info(packages) is on what 
cd's, cause i wont to download the CD, but i wont to be shore that i will use 
the cd that i download, and not download not needed CD.
 thanx


Re: Q: Xfree troubles!!! help, please

2002-10-07 Thread Raúl Wild-Spain

Hi, Kent,

>
> Do you have installed "xfonts-base"?
>

yes!! ;-)

also xfonts-100dpi, 75dpi ...

Nobody makes reference, but I've mentioned that I could see an error during
the configuration of x-window-system (installed with apt-get) ... what do
you think about this error?  (I think that my problem is  possibly here, but
I don't know how I can to solve it)

I remember:

> * When installing x-window-system package with apt-get I could see the
> following during the configuration process:
>
> error processing xfonts-scalable (--configure) error status 127
>
>  dependency problems prevent configuration of x-window-system core:
> w-window-system-core depends on xfonts-scalable
>  xfonts-scalable isn't configured yet
>
>  error processing x-window-system-core (--configure)
>

Do you need my Xconfig or Xlog for more information?

Kent, thanks a lot for your help!

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Re: cd's listing

2002-10-07 Thread Colin Watson

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 09:10:26PM +0400, Anton wrote:
> is there some explination on what info(packages) is on what cd's,
> cause i wont to download the CD, but i wont to be shore that i will
> use the cd that i download, and not download not needed CD.

You might not want to download the CDs at all, then. Just download what
you need for installation, and install the rest from the net.

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Re: Woody & Locales

2002-10-07 Thread Tatsuya Kinoshita

On October 7, 2002 at 10:05AM +0200,
thomas kral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On my system to get cs_CZ & en_US locales working I had to compile
> them in /usr/lib/locale by hand.

I recommend setting by `dpkg-reconfigure locales'.  See
/etc/locale.gen also.

> Now this perfectly works under GNOME, I can pick any language from GDM
> and the locale vars are set accordingly upon user login. This however 
> does not work in KDE.

Did you install i18n files for KDE?  (Try `apt-cache search kde-i18n'.)

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Re: Q: Xfree troubles!!! help, please

2002-10-07 Thread Kent West

Raúl Wild-Spain wrote:

>Hi, Kent,
>
>  
>
>>Do you have installed "xfonts-base"?
>>
>>
>>
>
>yes!! ;-)
>
>also xfonts-100dpi, 75dpi ...
>
>Nobody makes reference, but I've mentioned that I could see an error during
>the configuration of x-window-system (installed with apt-get) ... what do
>you think about this error?  (I think that my problem is  possibly here, but
>I don't know how I can to solve it)
>
>I remember:
>
>  
>
>>* When installing x-window-system package with apt-get I could see the
>>following during the configuration process:
>>
>>error processing xfonts-scalable (--configure) error status 127
>>
>> dependency problems prevent configuration of x-window-system core:
>>w-window-system-core depends on xfonts-scalable
>> xfonts-scalable isn't configured yet
>>
>> error processing x-window-system-core (--configure)
>>
>>
>>

Oh, it looks like the problem may be xfonts-scalable instead of xfonts-base.

Try "apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-scalable", followed by "apt-get 
install x-windows-system-core".


Kent




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Re: PPT files

2002-10-07 Thread Hubert Chan

> "Jerome" == Jerome BENOIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jerome> Hi All !  Does Debian provide a tool for reading PPT files ?

ppthtml converts PPT to HTML, if you just want to read the PPT and not
use it as a presentation.  Other than that, OpenOffice seems to work
relatively well, and I think it's supposed to be hitting unstable
"soon".

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Re: dhcp and dnat

2002-10-07 Thread Stephen Gran

This one time, at band camp, martin f krafft said:
> hi there,
> 
> my ISP allows me to use 4 IPs obtained with DHCP. I have a firewall
> box connecting a DMZ and the LAN to upstream. In the DMZ, there are
> two servers for which I would like to use a public IP assigned by
> upstream's DHCP server and consequently DNATted (iptables) by the
> firewall box.
> 
> My thought was to let the firewall box be a proxy DHCP client (not
> a relay), requesting multiple leases from the upstream DHCP server.
> Once it obtained a lease it simply calls a custom script to set up
> iptables DNAT and SNAT appropriately.
> 
> However, I am unsure on how to do this. dhcp3-client works
> wonderfully, but it requires the specification of an interface. As
> I know of no way to configure proxy interfaces[1] I wonder how
> I should use dhclient3 to accomplish what I want: obtain and maintain
> a lease independently of the one for eth0 and simply make the obtained
> IP available to a script.
> 
> Do you know of a way to do this?
> 
>   1. here's a cool idea for iptables: it provides interfaces like dnat0
>  and dnat1 to be configure like so:
> 
>ifconfig dnat0 up 212.113.54.167 for 192.168.1.13
> 
>  and consequently, anything it receives on that interface is
>  DNATted and sent to 192.168.1.13. i guess SNAT would have to be
>  done transparently in the background for 192.168.1.13.

How about virtual interfaces?  IIRC eth0:1, etc. (check the syntax - I
can't look it up right now).  Each could have an interfaces entry, they
could each be DHCP, and they could each be made to send the MAC address
of the machine that they route for.  Makes setting up routes easy too -
all traffic on eth0:4 gets sent to box4, etc.

Just a thought,
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Re: dpkg --list truncating lines

2002-10-07 Thread Stephen Gran

This one time, at band camp, Grant Edwards said:
> 
> A minor but annoying problem:
> 
> When I do an interactive dpkg --list, it displayes complete
> description summaries, but when I redirect output to a file, it
> truncates many of the lines.  Is there a way to tell dpkg not
> to truncate output?

COLUMNS=200 $command_to_be_run > file_redirect should do it.
HTH,
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Re: shutdown hangs at "deconfiguring network interfaces"

2002-10-07 Thread solutrean

thanks. that was perfect. :)


Elizabeth Barham wrote:

>solutrean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>  
>
>>The title sez it all. here are some particulars:
>>
>>athlon t-bird 750, all-scsi, 393M RAM, Debian testing.
>>
>>this is my first post to the list - I apologize for any improper netiquette.
>>I googled for this condition, but found nothing.
>>
>>
>
>I had this for a while. Lets take a look at what is happening:
>
>>From /etc/init.d/networking:
>
>stop)
>
>   [...]
>echo -n "Deconfiguring network interfaces: "
>ifdown -a
>   echo "done."
>   [...]
>
>>From ifdown(8):
>
>FILES
>   /etc/network/interfaces
>  Descriptions  of  all  the  network  interfaces the
>  system has.
>
>   /etc/network/ifstate
>  Current state of network interfaces.
>
>In my case, there were interfaces that were not up that ifstate said
>were up. Why? Because /etc/rcS.d/S39ifupdown was causing a
>segmentation fault. Why? Because I had compiled a newer version of
>libstdc++ when using the potato distribution and after upgrading to
>woody, applications were using the one I compiled in /usr/local and
>not the one that came with woody. Deleting my library in /usr/local/
>most likely cured it although I recall writing a script to do the
>following:
>
>As a quick work-around, try wiping out /etc/network/ifstate and see if
>you continue to have the problem (echo -n > /etc/network/ifstate)
>right before shutting down. If that works, you might want to add that
>to /etc/init.d/networking right before the "ifdown -a" part mentioned
>above.
>
>HTH,
>
>Elizabeth
>
>
>  
>





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Re: Accessing USB Camera pics

2002-10-07 Thread Alan Chandler

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On Monday 07 October 2002 4:50 pm, DSC Siltec wrote:
> Okay, I have Debian, Woody, Hotplug, USB, and a cheap junk USB camera.
>
> How do I access my pics?  I'd really like three answers:
>(1) How to access them directly as files, if possible
>(2) Best way to download them as pictures, and save them
>(3) How to create nice compressed .mpgs from it (my camera supports 8
> seconds of movie, high res, 32 seconds low res.).

As a result of what you have done, you should see the contents of your camera 
on /etc/sda1 (unless you already have scsi devices when it may be something 
different.

mount -t msdos /dev/sda1 /camera

My setup is slightly different, I have a smartmedia card reader which I have 
plugged the smartmedia card from my camera in to it - but I believe that many 
camera models do the same.

In my case the jpeg images are stored in a subdirectory on this device 
dcim/100olymp - I think most cameras should use dcim followed by some other 
directory.



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