Is there another way to do apt-get dist-upgrade with a slow internet connection?
Hi I use Knoppix 3.2 at home. I have an extreemly slow dial up connection to the NET from here. However, the speed in my office is super fast. One option to do a dist-upgrade would be to take the computer to the office and do it over the week-end, but I was wondering if there was an alternative to that.. Something on the lines off downloading the files in the office and copy on a CDROM. Then tell apt-get to look for the dist-upgrade from the CDROM.. Is this doable? Any tips / advice on which software to download or man page to read? Regards Rishi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: upgrade
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 08:35:36PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 10:22:55PM -0600, Craig Jackson wrote: [forgot to snip on that other one!] > > received not a single response, yet I've seen embecilic posts turn into > > long threads. Sometimes makes me wonder what the real motivation is for > > many people in these groups. > > > > Craig Jackson > > Yeah, I guess some people are just here to bitch or something. Preemptively noting my own malquoting... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 10:22:55PM -0600, Craig Jackson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 18:27, Nano Nano wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 06:49:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I need to upgrade my Gallant TV Tuner card > > > > This kind of randomness happens a lot. I figure it's one of three > > things: either (1) the sender intended to ask debian-user this question; > > (2) the sender is on a shared computer and this was in the address book, > > and it just looked useful, or (3) it's some kind of spam. > > > > If it's (1), how would someone "stumble" onto www.debian.org and learn > > the address? I can imagine the clueless doing dumb things but that > > seems like a highly unlikely choice. > > > > If it's (3), what is the purpose of sending such a pointless spam? Is > > it just pointless anarchy? > > > > (2) is a stretch. Maybe debian-user is a link on some web page listing > > a collection of email support addresses, and the clueless just sort of > > click randomly to get here. > > > > Actually what surprises me most is the the number of replies and the > length of the thread for messages like his. I've posted many genuine > requests for information or help in many news groups, many of which > received not a single response, yet I've seen embecilic posts turn into > long threads. Sometimes makes me wonder what the real motivation is for > many people in these groups. > > Craig Jackson Yeah, I guess some people are just here to bitch or something. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade
On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 18:27, Nano Nano wrote: > On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 06:49:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I need to upgrade my Gallant TV Tuner card > > This kind of randomness happens a lot. I figure it's one of three > things: either (1) the sender intended to ask debian-user this question; > (2) the sender is on a shared computer and this was in the address book, > and it just looked useful, or (3) it's some kind of spam. > > If it's (1), how would someone "stumble" onto www.debian.org and learn > the address? I can imagine the clueless doing dumb things but that > seems like a highly unlikely choice. > > If it's (3), what is the purpose of sending such a pointless spam? Is > it just pointless anarchy? > > (2) is a stretch. Maybe debian-user is a link on some web page listing > a collection of email support addresses, and the clueless just sort of > click randomly to get here. > Actually what surprises me most is the the number of replies and the length of the thread for messages like his. I've posted many genuine requests for information or help in many news groups, many of which received not a single response, yet I've seen embecilic posts turn into long threads. Sometimes makes me wonder what the real motivation is for many people in these groups. Craig Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gaim problem
Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: Scott C. Linnenbringer wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2004, at 08:02 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: I know that I'm using testing/unstable. That doesn't mean, however, that you are running the unstable distribution. If you really wanted to know, show the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list If your main repository contains either 'testing' or 'sarge' you'll be pulling 0.64 from it. I did an apt-get dist-upgrade -t testing like the third day I had my box up. tty1-6 says that I'm running testing/unstable I had to add another source to my sources.list (which I'll provide if anyone wants) so my problem is solved now. I know Robert McQueen (gaim's maintainer, last time I checked) runs his own repository on people.d.o with his latest packages, so I figure that's where you obtained it from. Nope. deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/wo ody gnome2.2/ I also encountered the problem that was the original point of this thread, GAIM dieing when you send a msg via MSN or Yahoo, but it has only happened once so I dunno. I use neither of those services/modules, but you might want to investigate some more. Gaim's not perfect, but it has never crashed for me. Well, now it crashes (repeatedly) when I try to enable "check spelling while typing". Granted I've also installed every available ispell module. ;) The problem with it crashing when trying to msg an MSN user was a one time phenomenon. Up until now I've never had problems with GAIM, either. Hi, Thanks for replying. Do u mean trying to run gaim using gdb when u say that the crashes should be investigated further? I haven't installed from source. I have gaim 0.72 from apt Thanks panda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
US Feds being spammed? (was RE: C'mon, let's get free movie tickets!)
On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 08:28, Libre, Alex wrote: > Before going further how did you get my e-mail address. Do I know you? > Please identify yourself. > > Alex > > Well, dhs.gov is the U.S.A Department of Homeland Security. It's rather amusing if Alex Libre is an actual person working there. :) > __ Reply Separator > _ > Subject: C'mon, let's get free movie tickets! > Author: "Julia Leonardo" at HQ-IRM-001 > Date:12/29/2003 2:20 PM > > > Don't forget! > > Go here and we'll both get free movie tickets! > http://freeflixtix.com/v.html?m=c0e9ba9&v=62634b > > seeya, > Julia -- Steven Yap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gaim problem
Scott C. Linnenbringer wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2004, at 08:02 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: I know that I'm using testing/unstable. That doesn't mean, however, that you are running the unstable distribution. If you really wanted to know, show the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list If your main repository contains either 'testing' or 'sarge' you'll be pulling 0.64 from it. I did an apt-get dist-upgrade -t testing like the third day I had my box up. tty1-6 says that I'm running testing/unstable I had to add another source to my sources.list (which I'll provide if anyone wants) so my problem is solved now. I know Robert McQueen (gaim's maintainer, last time I checked) runs his own repository on people.d.o with his latest packages, so I figure that's where you obtained it from. Nope. deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/wo ody gnome2.2/ I also encountered the problem that was the original point of this thread, GAIM dieing when you send a msg via MSN or Yahoo, but it has only happened once so I dunno. I use neither of those services/modules, but you might want to investigate some more. Gaim's not perfect, but it has never crashed for me. Well, now it crashes (repeatedly) when I try to enable "check spelling while typing". Granted I've also installed every available ispell module. ;) The problem with it crashing when trying to msg an MSN user was a one time phenomenon. Up until now I've never had problems with GAIM, either. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gaim problem
On Wed, Dec 31, 2004, at 08:02 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: > I know that I'm using testing/unstable. That doesn't mean, however, that you are running the unstable distribution. If you really wanted to know, show the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list If your main repository contains either 'testing' or 'sarge' you'll be pulling 0.64 from it. > I had to add another source to my sources.list (which I'll provide if > anyone wants) so my problem is solved now. I know Robert McQueen (gaim's maintainer, last time I checked) runs his own repository on people.d.o with his latest packages, so I figure that's where you obtained it from. > I also encountered the problem that was the original point of this > thread, GAIM dieing when you send a msg via MSN or Yahoo, but it has > only happened once so I dunno. I use neither of those services/modules, but you might want to investigate some more. Gaim's not perfect, but it has never crashed for me. -- scott c. linnenbringer| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.panix.com/~sl | [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: References headers missing in debian-user-digest
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 11:54:10PM +, Pigeon wrote: > Just catching up with several weeks' worth of list traffic (or trying to :-) ) > and it seems that all the debian-user-digests dated after November 21 are > missing the References: headers from the messages contained in them. The > result is that when I burst the digests and view the result in mutt, > threading is broken. References is a USENET header, not a mail header. You want In-Reply-To: - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/85NbUzgNqloQMwcRAk4IAKDPRxhnuEUQ/1NBIN0di0ZnpBJqVwCg1ms9 3/5ORPag0uHQ1LnPH90FbyM= =Np4D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 06:49:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I need to upgrade my Gallant TV Tuner card I recommend asking a smarter question. Google for "esr smart questions" to find out how. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/85LjUzgNqloQMwcRAk++AJ9LG+7fJnUXJo7OpqsoHKwHnisOPACgjVcs hHQsmHCvYK+reZcf6HyokRI= =vo5M -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unsuccessful unsubscribe request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 05:33:24PM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > Any Suggestions other than add to spam list. Looks like you're subscribed to one of the mailing lists that redistributes debian-user, not debian-user itself. Please post the full headers of this message so we can see how it's getting to you. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/85KYUzgNqloQMwcRAumqAJ0dW55ePZyEkYiLd5D+JD+qBf/tlgCcCGDo 7cDdUMDryCxpwMKSk7xORqo= =U6AC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please suggest a mobo for >4 IDE drives.
On Wednesday December 31 at 06:47pm Scarletdown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ramasubramanian Ramesh wrote: > > Paul, > > > > the worlds of RAID as opposed to leading to 5+drives on the same > > mobo. To make sure that the real intention comes out, I simply > > abandoned the first one and started a new one. This ways the > > subject line is clearer - I do not care for the RAID but want > > another set of IDE controller/host. > > > Alternatively, why not simply stick a SCSI controller in the system? > That way you can have up to 11 devices (4 IDE and 7 SCSI). If it's a 68pin model (like my Adaptec 2940UW) you can put on much more than that. The 68 and 80 pin interface will take up to 14 devices, so there are several possible configurations: n 68pin external/m 68pin internal (where n+m <= 14) n 68pin external|internal/ m 50pin internal (where n+m <=14 and n <= 7) -- -johann koenig Now Playing: Steppenwolf - Magic Carpet Ride : 16 Greatest Hits Today is Setting Orange, the 73rd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3169 My public pgp key: http://mental-graffiti.com/pgp/johannkoenig.pgp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian newbie confused over apt and packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 03:04:21PM -0500, Russ Schneider wrote: > But packages.debian.org is down. Can apt-get upgrade use different > servers? Are they mirrored? Yes. Ad-nauseum. Visiting ftp://ftp.xx.debian.org/ (replace xx with your ISO country code) will give you the local debian mirror for your neck of the woods. There is also a mirror list at /MIRRORS . This is documented on http://debian.org/ if you looked. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/85CYUzgNqloQMwcRApiUAKCoKek7UBbRLR+aQKG2s7RToCaHSwCeJ6LC +QXim/F43s8hNRXvH6Uoj8A= =DjSD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question about driver packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 03:53:45PM +, Richard Kimber wrote: > I'm planning to buy a new machine with an onboard raid0 controller. It > seems from Googling that all the drivers that are available are described > as being > either for RH or Suse or sometimes Mandrake. How specific to the > distributions are these? Can any of them be used with Debian? Drivers are kernel-specific, not distro-specific. In either case, probably not. Go fetch kernel-package and one of the kernel-source packages and compile RAID stuff into the kernel on your own. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/85ACUzgNqloQMwcRAuSyAJ92L/6z23EEYTTcn1ef7Pq3pgl0dwCdGuAZ 354Ep6QD6xnFFooSvbfP/OY= =L4BH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Darkness
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 11:08:00AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > IIRC, if it does contain the DREADED DRM, it is suppose to contain some > non-music data on the first track, thus this may be the thing that can't > be gotten past. CD DRM is usually accomplished with a broken TOC, meaning players strictly following the Red Book standard (which they should be) will not be able to play the disc. Notice I didn't get specific to CD-ROM drives: These discs won't play in older home stereo CD players, and some portable and car stereo CD players currently being sold. Because these CDs do not conform to the Red Book standard, these CDs are, by definition, defective upon manufacture. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/8440UzgNqloQMwcRAvhXAJwLqxqzS7nLycu7C3e4pomTmiS0rwCgyTU1 xvV7O6Dxyzl3jd0eVUbJ3hI= =8+ao -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Darkness
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 03:47:23PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: > I take it yours doesn't have a banner on the back of the case with any > small print about copy protection? Nope, it does not. It is *very* important you take a stand: Just take the CD back and demand refund for the defective disc. Go hunt around for a copy that doesn't have the copy protection. I bought my copy off of tower.com, perhaps your business is better placed with them (do it quick, they're going under). > PS Wanna put the WAVs up somewhere I can get them? (this is one of > those ;) comments that should really be more like :| ) I have the oggs, and I'm willing to email them to you. This is an awesome band, and I know you have your copy or I wouldn't extend this offer. Email me off-list and we'll work out the details. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/840VUzgNqloQMwcRAkDEAJ9Sd4OsTDeOluEZ3QV3s67NS+8/3wCeJGJ9 buzKgj9QhGSHGF0yvKLCUj8= =QnqD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian newbie confused over apt and packages
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 03:53:54PM -0500, Russ Schneider wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Adam Barton wrote: > > > Let us know how it goes! > > Thanks all. So far this list has been VERY helpful. :) > > I think I understand now, and once my router gets here (c'mon UPS!) I can > put this all to use. Why not run your router with linux? This is one of the biggest uses of linux. THere is a lot of documentation available free on the internet. -dp > > That is, once I figure out how to use a router (but that's for another > list). :) > > > -- > [ Russ Schneider (a.k.a. Sugapablo) ] > [ http://www.sugapablo.com <--music ] > [ http://www.sugapablo.net <--personal ] > [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] <--jabber IM ] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struggling with Palm Pilot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 02:12:13PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > Hit the 'sync' button on the Palm cradle *first*. The USB device isn't > activated until it gets the external request. kpilot's KDE daemon just sits there checking the device every few seconds, so when you press the hotsync button, it automagically does it's stuff. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/84wRUzgNqloQMwcRAuRnAJ9wEjnU3uIXsoJ7A0BZXY1brJxARwCfX1NR +dIfgd8tJU1vuv10MPwAcDE= =E7FW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please suggest a mobo for >4 IDE drives.
Ramasubramanian Ramesh wrote: Paul, the worlds of RAID as opposed to leading to 5+drives on the same mobo. To make sure that the real intention comes out, I simply abandoned the first one and started a new one. This ways the subject line is clearer - I do not care for the RAID but want another set of IDE controller/host. Alternatively, why not simply stick a SCSI controller in the system? That way you can have up to 11 devices (4 IDE and 7 SCSI). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian newbie confused over apt and packages
On Wednesday 31 December 2003 20:04, Russ Schneider wrote: > Alright, I just started using Debian after being mainly a Mandrake user. > > Installed Woody and I know most of the packages like Apache, etc. need > upgrades. > > But packages.debian.org is down. Can apt-get upgrade use different > servers? Are they mirrored? Apt-get doesn't use packages.debian.org, but rather the servers and subsections in /etc/apt/sources.list > > I was looking through the US server http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/, but > I couldn't find any packages, only lists of packages. Apt-get uses these lists to get at the actual packages. As others have said, use apt-setup to set up to point to this, or one of the other mirrors. > > Needless to say I'm confused as to what servers I can put in sources.list > at this time. > > Is > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main > still up? Don't know - probably, but if you want updated versions of the packages you have to change the stable section to either sarge (or testing) or unstable (or sid). Woody doesn't have any package updates, only security updates from the line your already listed above. Can I recommend you try aptitude - or if running gnome synaptic, these are interactive tools to help you select packages you want to install. > Could someone provide for me a line like that for updated packages for > sources.list that lists a currently available server (if one is > available)? This is my list for unstable (ie bleeding edge) from the uk. This came from apt-setup with a little help from other sources (see www.apt-get.org) # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US # put the bluyonder first so that is tried first - but the second may be more # up to date deb ftp://debian.blueyonder.co.uk/pub/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian ../project/experimental main contrib non-free ## Various Multimedia Helper Apps (MPlayer) ## deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main #java deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian sid main non-free -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struggling with Palm Pilot
On Wednesday 31 December 2003 22:12, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 08:16:01AM +, Alan Chandler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > OK - I added commands in /etc/devfsd/conf.d to symlink /dev/pilot (and > > /dev/ palm) to /dev/tts/1 when the hotsync button is pressed. > > > > However gnome-pilot still just hangs when trying to sync for the first > > time. Any idea what I should do next? > > Hit the 'sync' button on the Palm cradle *first*. The USB device isn't > activated until it gets the external request. > I tried that, but gnome pilot still didn't pick up on it. -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fas anyone gotten fwbuilder to work?
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 03:54:28PM -0800, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote: > I'm the maintainer of fwbuilder... I just arrived home from a two week > vacation and had authorized an NMU be done but have not had a chance to > check it out myself yet. This is on my 'todo' list at this time along > with a great many other things related to Debian, work and personal > items. > > Of note I've not seen any bugs filed against the version 1.1.1-0.1 > which is the NMU'd version that should be in unstable at this time. > Well the version in unstable (and the version in testign) seem to be unable to find the requsite .xml files, even though most of them seem to exist in /usr/share/fwbuilder. Althought I had to make a link from the init file to the name the executable was expecting. But that didn't get it much further. Let me know if you wnat more info. -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: was wondering
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:59:00 -0500, Paul Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:35:04 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 07:13, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > >> ..or PS1='\[\033[1;33m\]\u\[\033[1;[EMAIL PROTECTED];32m\]\H\[\033 > >> [1;37m\]:\[\0 33[1;31m\]\w \[\033[1;36m\]\$ \[\033[0m\]' ;-) > > this ^ space has to go ...right, I first dropped it into my message, then decided to prepended "..or". ;-) > > Too colored for my taste, though :) ..bore. ;-) ..I need it like that so I see _where_ I'm messing around. ;-) > > Seems a good time to ask a question: Since my brain always > > segfaults when I read about interactive vs. login shells and the > > files they read on startup, I never managed to find out what I have > > to do to make the prompt change when doing a 'su'. 'su -' obviously > > works. Thanks for hints :) > > change it in root/.bashrc ..for tests, simply drop it into your cli. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: keyboard layout switcher for KDE
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:27:50 +0100 "John L. Fjellstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rafael Alexandre Schmitt wrote: > > > I think it is on kdebase , but i'm not sure... > > Looks like it's something else. Couldn't install kdebase because of > missing dependencies, but I did install almost everything in the > package, and I still don't have the keyboard switcher program. What dependencies? libsensors-1debian1_2.7.0-6_i386.deb ? -- Rafael Alexandre Schmitt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References headers missing in debian-user-digest
Hi, Just catching up with several weeks' worth of list traffic (or trying to :-) ) and it seems that all the debian-user-digests dated after November 21 are missing the References: headers from the messages contained in them. The result is that when I burst the digests and view the result in mutt, threading is broken. Any idea why / estimated date of fix please? Happy new year, -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: The Darkness
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 10:58:54AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been trying to rip "Permission To Land" by The Darkness to ogg > using grip (and cdparanoia). > > cdparanoia has tremendous problems with the disc, which plays ok in a CD > player. If anyone out there has it, can they have a go at ripping it? > The back label mentions "digital copy protection", which I find rather > worrying... If it can be played, it can be copied... You need a CD player with an S/PDIF output and an S/PDIF-capable sound card based on the CMI8738 chipset - these are cheap, and have a solid S/PDIF implementation capable of bit-perfect copies (many, including Soundblasters, fail on solidity, cheapness or both...) Google for the little gtk app that lets you turn S/PDIF on and off on these cards (not being on my usual box, I don't have the reference to hand). -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fas anyone gotten fwbuilder to work?
I'm the maintainer of fwbuilder... I just arrived home from a two week vacation and had authorized an NMU be done but have not had a chance to check it out myself yet. This is on my 'todo' list at this time along with a great many other things related to Debian, work and personal items. Of note I've not seen any bugs filed against the version 1.1.1-0.1 which is the NMU'd version that should be in unstable at this time. Regards, Jeremy On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 01:50:19PM -0500, stan wrote: > I'm trying to et fwbuilder to work. I've tried on a testing machine that I > just updated today _and_ and unstable machine. In both cases when I try to > run it, it complains about npt finding some files. Looks like the files are > in /usr/share/fwbuilder/*. But it can't find them. > > Is there an environment variable, or something that I need to set? > > > -- > "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve > neither liberty nor safety." > -- Benjamin Franklin > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: upgrade
On Wednesday 31 December 2003 04:27 pm, Nano Nano wrote: > On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 06:49:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I need to upgrade my Gallant TV Tuner card > > This kind of randomness happens a lot. I figure it's one of three > things: I've done something like this myself...you start a message that is somehow interrupted and you think you are clicking it off or sending it to "drafts" and you hit send by accident. Really, just a note to re-introduce myself to the group. Thanks to members here I have had a successfully running webserver for about a year now no problems at all. But very gun-shy about getting back into learning more Linux; that was a grueling six-months of torture! Now putting my toes in again. Best Wishes! Mike Olds http://www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] simple to use X-toolkit/plot/image viewing for c/c++
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 10:02:37AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > I am looking for a relatively easy to use x-toolkit and something for > ploting / showing images in popup windows. The ploting is for drawing some > line graphs. > > Any sugestions ? Well since you want it to be a quick hack then I suggest you simply use gnuplot for the graphs. Gnuplot supports many different output drivers, including X, PostScript, Ascii, etc. Since you're coding in C you can popen(3) a pipe to gnuplot (with the correct arguments) and pipe it the data. Bijan -- Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.crasseux.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: upgrade
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 06:49:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I need to upgrade my Gallant TV Tuner card This kind of randomness happens a lot. I figure it's one of three things: either (1) the sender intended to ask debian-user this question; (2) the sender is on a shared computer and this was in the address book, and it just looked useful, or (3) it's some kind of spam. If it's (1), how would someone "stumble" onto www.debian.org and learn the address? I can imagine the clueless doing dumb things but that seems like a highly unlikely choice. If it's (3), what is the purpose of sending such a pointless spam? Is it just pointless anarchy? (2) is a stretch. Maybe debian-user is a link on some web page listing a collection of email support addresses, and the clueless just sort of click randomly to get here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: keyboard layout switcher for KDE
Rafael Alexandre Schmitt wrote: > I think it is on kdebase , but i'm not sure... Looks like it's something else. Couldn't install kdebase because of missing dependencies, but I did install almost everything in the package, and I still don't have the keyboard switcher program. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unsuccessful unsubscribe request
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:33:24 -0600 "Hoyt Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any Suggestions other than add to spam list. > Hoyt Did you check the headers on e-mails you're receiving from the list to make sure that hoyt13 is really the address they're being mailed to? I know I have several aliases that point to my e-mail account... Specifically, check the "Return-Path" header in an e-mail from the Debian-user list. HTH, Jacob - GnuPG Key: 1024D/16377135 Some software money can't buy. For everything else there's Micros~1. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
upgrade
I need to upgrade my Gallant TV Tuner card
Unsuccessful unsubscribe request
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Re: Domanda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Un "mio amico" mia dato Linux Mandrake 9, ma c'è il problema che non posso ascoltare nessun CD audio e neanche file audio da Internet. Da che dipende? butala via e instala Debian! luigi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X refuses to load nVidia module
On 31. December 2003 at 4:50AM -0400, Stephen Cormier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On December 29, 2003 10:59 pm, Bradley Alexander wrote: > >When I tried to load the module under 2.6.0, I got the message > >FATAL: Error inserting nvidia > >(/lib/modules/2.6.0/nvidia/nvidia.ko): Invalid module format > > > > Starting with about test7 and onwards I had to us modprobe -f > nvidia to get the module to load and then after that X would > start. Using make-kpkg, the nvidia-graphics-drivers package, linux 2.6 final and the linux 2.6 hacks, I remember needing to do "dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx" and enabling something called TLS support (threaded local storage?). Of course I doubt if this applies in this case. I've not have any problems loading the kernel part of the nvidia driver. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Domanda
Un "mio amico" mia dato Linux Mandrake 9, ma c'è il problema che non posso ascoltare nessun CD audio e neanche file audio da Internet. Da che dipende? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fas anyone gotten fwbuilder to work?
I haven't tried, but it really is on my 'todo' list and I expect to start working on this soon as I want to build iptables rules using a GUI. Check Point's well GUI-ified Firewall-1 is too expensive for me, you see ;) When you get it working, please post any issues you find back to the list so I may profit from your hard work ;) Kind regards, Adam Barton. stan wrote: I'm trying to et fwbuilder to work. I've tried on a testing machine that I just updated today _and_ and unstable machine. In both cases when I try to run it, it complains about npt finding some files. Looks like the files are in /usr/share/fwbuilder/*. But it can't find them. Is there an environment variable, or something that I need to set? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: SCSI better than IDE?
On Wednesday December 31 at 01:54pm "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 06:52:04PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 03:38:23PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 02:36:03PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > > > > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:53:11 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > > > Whether the *battle* is something you care about... that's for > > > > > you to decide. > > > > > > > > Which is why I restricted my comments to PCs only. With a > > > > single user PC, it is extremely unlikely to make a significant > > > > difference > > > > > > Until you add that second hard drive. > > > > Of course with a 200 or 250 Gig IDE hard disk, you're much less > > likely to need to do that :) > > Spoken like someone who's failed to grasp the concept of multiple > simultaneous IOs. > > Ever watch your system freeze for a quarter minute while swapping a > large process in or out? Nope :-D Thats what 768mb of RAM on a system thats only used as a desktop will get you. I run email, web, gcc compiles, and a bunch of other random programs on this computer, but leave a separate computer (200mhz AMD with 7 scsi drives) to do stuff like imap, http, https, webmail, ftp, mysql, php etc. -- -johann koenig Now Playing: Trevor Jones - Elk Hunt : Last Of The Mohicans Today is Setting Orange, the 73rd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3169 My public pgp key: http://mental-graffiti.com/pgp/johannkoenig.pgp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Struggling with Palm Pilot
on Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 08:16:01AM +, Alan Chandler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tuesday 30 December 2003 23:10, Alan Chandler wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 December 2003 22:35, Hubert Chan wrote: > > > > "Alan" == Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > Alan> I have a palm pilot m505 with usb cradle. All the intructions I > > > Alan> have read assume that (assuming devfs is being used) that > > > Alan> /dev/usb/tts/* exists. > > > > > > Alan> The directory certainly does, but it is empty. > > > > > > I'm not sure about the m505, but with my Visor, /dev/usb/tts/ only gets > > > populated when I hit the hotsync button (and becomes empty shortly after > > > the hotsync is complete). > > > > Bingo, that seems to be it - I get two devices, a 0 and 1 created when I > > hit the hotsync button. Which one needs to be symlinked to /dev/pilot ? -- > > OK - I added commands in /etc/devfsd/conf.d to symlink /dev/pilot (and > /dev/ palm) to /dev/tts/1 when the hotsync button is pressed. > > However gnome-pilot still just hangs when trying to sync for the first > time. Any idea what I should do next? Hit the 'sync' button on the Palm cradle *first*. The USB device isn't activated until it gets the external request. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Verio webhosting? Guaranteed downtime: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,57011,00.html http://www.dowethics.com/r/environment/freedom.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla-Thunderbird and URL Links?
Paul Morgan wrote: You don't say what version you are using. The "open link in browser" stuff doesn't work in 0.3. It apparently does in 0.4, but still requires some setup. It took me like 30 seconds to find this in the Thunderbird release notes: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/linuxurls.html Mine started working after the apt-get upgrade to 0.4. No additional setup required. -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OT: SCSI better than IDE?
on Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 06:52:04PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 03:38:23PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 02:36:03PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > > > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:53:11 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > > Whether the *battle* is something you care about... that's for you to > > > > decide. > > > > > > Which is why I restricted my comments to PCs only. With a single user PC, > > > it is extremely unlikely to make a significant difference > > > > Until you add that second hard drive. > > Of course with a 200 or 250 Gig IDE hard disk, you're much less likely > to need to do that :) Spoken like someone who's failed to grasp the concept of multiple simultaneous IOs. Ever watch your system freeze for a quarter minute while swapping a large process in or out? Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? And what do I get? A one-way ticket to Palookaville" - M. Brando pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Synching disk on logout -- switched to EXT3
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 22:55:12 +0100, David Baron wrote: > Thanks to all the good advice here, I made the switch to ext3. It was quite > painless, was neither doable nor necessitating a CD-boot. > > Just did the tune2fs -j and edited the fstab and rebooted. > > Note that on boot now, I get a warning something like: > ext2 loader warning, ext3 superblock . mounted ext3, filesystem ext2. > > Besides this, runs perfectly and survived one switch off with a flawless fsck. did you define it in fstab as ext3? what is the exact message, because the approximation you give sounds like it is not mounted as ext3 -- paul Programming without a hex editor is like watchmaking without a hammer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: XP-LINUX Dual Boot - Still have problems
Mark: Thanks for recommending bootpart. I used it successfully and it did the trick. It also indicated that I needed to use the LBA flag in order to get dual boot working. I can now successfully boot into linux using my XP boot loader. Thanks to all who sent in comments and suggestions. Regards, Abhay -Original Message- From: Mark Pictor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 8:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:XP-LINUX Dual Boot - Still have problems (I don't subscribe to debian-user yet, I just happened to be browsing the archive, and saw this...) There's two things I would suggest if you don't want to replace the XP bootloader: 1) install LILO or GRUB on /dev/hdb. Go into the BIOS, and tell it to try booting that disk first. You can configure that bootloader to include Windows XP, and if it gets messed up, just go into the BIOS and reset it to boot the first hard disk. 2) There's a program called bootpart (http://winimage.com/bootpart.htm) which will add entries to boot.ini, as well as creating the corresponding boot-block image. It's nice, though I haven't used it much. (I already had loadlin set up under Win98, so now it's just a 2nd-level menu) I am not sure, but bootpart may only work from dos, or require C: to be FAT, or something... but it is definitely worth a try. Good luck Mark __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla-Thunderbird and URL Links?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:02:02 -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > How do I get Thunderbird to open a link when I click on it? I know that > Thunderbird is only a mail/news client, so it can't open it directly, but > where do I tell it which browser to open links in? I have several browsers > available (Konqueror, Opera, Mozilla-Firebird), but it does not use any of > them. What am I missing, here? > > Marc Shapiro > You don't say what version you are using. The "open link in browser" stuff doesn't work in 0.3. It apparently does in 0.4, but still requires some setup. It took me like 30 seconds to find this in the Thunderbird release notes: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/linuxurls.html -- paul Programming without a hex editor is like watchmaking without a hammer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Synching disk on logout -- switched to EXT3
Thanks to all the good advice here, I made the switch to ext3. It was quite painless, was neither doable nor necessitating a CD-boot. Just did the tune2fs -j and edited the fstab and rebooted. Note that on boot now, I get a warning something like: ext2 loader warning, ext3 superblock . mounted ext3, filesystem ext2. Besides this, runs perfectly and survived one switch off with a flawless fsck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Writer does not work for audio CD
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:38:18 -0500, DGLU TR wrote: > > Not really: > I am using 2.4.22 and burning with atapi, without scsi emulation. > > hpd:/home/tony/work# cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus > > and then > > hpd:/home/tony/work# cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 -v speed=12 bootbf*iso Cool, thanks for posting this. -- paul Programming without a hex editor is like watchmaking without a hammer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian newbie confused over apt and packages
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Adam Barton wrote: > Let us know how it goes! Thanks all. So far this list has been VERY helpful. :) I think I understand now, and once my router gets here (c'mon UPS!) I can put this all to use. That is, once I figure out how to use a router (but that's for another list). :) -- [ Russ Schneider (a.k.a. Sugapablo) ] [ http://www.sugapablo.com <--music ] [ http://www.sugapablo.net <--personal ] [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] <--jabber IM ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from stable to testing with apt-get?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:23:01 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Logical vs. Primary. Logical partitions are a work-around for the fact > that you can only have four primary partitions. So 1-4 are reserved for > primary partitions, and logical partitions start at 5. > > See, it *is* logical =) > > I'm not sure why you can only have four primary partitions, nor whether > the logical partition scheme (which after all sounds like a hack) has > any pitfalls. If you want to use primary and logical partitions, you can only have three primaries, because one primary is needed to become the extended partition, which contains the logical partitions. The logical partitions are kind of a linked list; each one holds a pointer to the next one. And yes, it's a hack (to get around limited space in the boot sector), but it works OK. Try reading: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/index.html -- paul Programming without a hex editor is like watchmaking without a hammer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: keeping Debian up to date and checking the version number
On Wednesday December 31 at 08:29pm Adam Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the help. I am more than reassured enough to move my Debian > > box into service now. This is good news because I could do with a > Linux box at home. > > A cron job has been set to do the updating via apt, and I will check > apt-check-sic (I assume this is the apt-check-sic.pl script I got from Check out the debian package 'cron-apt' -- -johann koenig Now Playing: Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 72nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3169 My public pgp key: http://mental-graffiti.com/pgp/johannkoenig.pgp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: unsubscribe
Is it possible to configure the list to: Reject mails that have a blank message, and a subject of unsubscribe as the subject? OR Just forward the message to the correct unsubscribe mailing list, OR bounce back with the correct unsubscribe address. I get 20 unsubscribe messages per day on this list. Colin Watson said: > Try sending it somewhere *other* than the mailing list. It will continue > to have absolutely no effect if you send it to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] See the list footer: > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with a subject of "unsubscribe" -- --Luke CS Sysadmin, Montana State University-Bozeman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian newbie confused over apt and packages
Russ, I had similar questions about updating. If you check http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200312/thrd12.html and do a search for the thread 'keeping Debian up to date and checking the version number' you should find my original posting to this mailing list with some good replies from some of the guys, errr, sorry, people, here. In addition, the command 'apt-setup' will configure your sources.list for you and is nicely menu driven. If you prefer to use a sources.list with the server that I use for troubleshooting (I am in the uk and use mirror.ac.uk) then check the thread above for my sources.list file I included in my original mail. Once you know it works, though, I suggest you change the sources.list using apt-setup to use servers more local to yourself. Let us know how it goes! Kind regards, Adam Barton. Russ Schneider wrote: Alright, I just started using Debian after being mainly a Mandrake user. Installed Woody and I know most of the packages like Apache, etc. need upgrades. But packages.debian.org is down. Can apt-get upgrade use different servers? Are they mirrored? I was looking through the US server http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/, but I couldn't find any packages, only lists of packages. Needless to say I'm confused as to what servers I can put in sources.list at this time. Is deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main still up? Could someone provide for me a line like that for updated packages for sources.list that lists a currently available server (if one is available)? (This box will be online as soon as the UPS man brings me my new router.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libOL.so.1
I have an old machine that I keep up to date with unstable which does not do any real work in case of disaster. All being well I then propagate the new stuff to other Debian unstable boxes on which I am doing real work. This morning I upgraded as usual, and all seemed well. One of the things that I do to make sure it is still working is some trivial KDE games (thinly disguised excuse I know but anything more would bring this machine to its knees its so slow. Now I find that in the ldd output for kmines there is a library called lib0L.so.1, which does not exist anywhere. Using ldd it seems that libkdegames.so.1 references it, but obviously did not bring in a dependancy for it. apt-file can not find it either, which suggests that it is a mistake and not deliberate. Has anyone else noticed this. I could not find anything in BTS, but my usual starting point would have been packages.debian.org and of course that is still down so I may have missed something. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using RAID chipsets in the motherboard.
Am Die, 2003-12-30 um 20.46 schrieb Ramasubramanian Ramesh: [...] > 1) SATA is usable as host. Therefore Linux will see the disks attached to this > controller just > like other IDE disks - but perhaps as scd0 and scd1. SATA-disks in "enhanced" mode (SATA and full PATA enabled) are recognized as normal SCSI disks (sda, sdb etc.). SATA disks in "compatible" mode (SATA and *one* PATA controller enabled) are recognized as normal IDE disks (hda, hdb, etc.) Compatible mode doesn't need a special driver to function, but you will loose one PATA channel. Enhanced mode will *hang* your box on boot w/o driver. > For >this I need a driver for ICH5R (intel) driver for this SATA host adapter. >Is this included in stock kernel source (I mean source 2.4.18 or 2.6.xx) A SATA driver is included since 2.4.20 IIRC. However, the most stable SATA setup for me is kernel 2.4.22-bk36 with libata kernel patch (get it here: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/jgarzik/libata) SATA in kernel 2.6 works out-of-the-box for me on an Asus P4P800 m/b. If you want to buy an AsusP4P have a look here for more info: http://www.hentges.net/howtos/p4p800_deluxe.html [...] HTH -- Matthias Hentges Cologne / Germany [www.hentges.net] -> PGP welcome, HTML tolerated ICQ: 97 26 97 4 -> No files, no URL's My OS: Debian Woody. Geek by Nature, Linux by Choice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good front end for small postgress dtabases?
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 02:29:31PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > > As I have no to plans to 'Gnome" this, or any, of my boxen I will have to > pass. Just thought I would see what you had produced. Good Luck!! NP, I'll put it on freshmeat. Thanks for being the guinea pig. One of my 20 tries this year was to wrap the GTK2 calls with abstract headers, so I could have a QT3 implementaion, or a Win32 implementation, but I never could finish that one. I finally had to just code as thinly as possible on top of a single raw toolkit in order to keep it from spiraling out of control, and GTK floats my boat. Later! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DRIVER
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:33:14 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > je cherche le DRIVER de la carte son OPTI82C933, s'il vous plait. > > mon email est : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..jooo, men da blir spørsmålet om den brikken sitter fast i et ISA eller PCI eller et annet type kort, eller om det rett og slett henger fast i hovedkortet. ;-) ..og ellers er http://www.google.com/language_tools og http://babelfish.org/ meeeget gode tips, om man er i tvil om man behersker fremmende språk som engelsk, som vi altså vanligvis bruker her. ;-) ..http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/ fins også. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian newbie confused over apt and packages
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:04:21 -0500 (EST) Russ Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alright, I just started using Debian after being mainly a Mandrake > user. > > Installed Woody and I know most of the packages like Apache, etc. need > upgrades. > > But packages.debian.org is down. Can apt-get upgrade use different > servers? Are they mirrored? [cut] Just run apt-setup as root and choose a mirror near to you. -- Rafael Alexandre Schmitt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian newbie confused over apt and packages
At Wednesday, 31 December 2003, Russ Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Alright, I just started using Debian after being mainly a Mandrake user. > >Installed Woody and I know most of the packages like Apache, etc. need >upgrades. > >But packages.debian.org is down. Can apt-get upgrade use different >servers? Are they mirrored? > >I was looking through the US server http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/, but >I couldn't find any packages, only lists of packages. > >Needless to say I'm confused as to what servers I can put in sources. list >at this time. > >Is >deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main >still up? > >Could someone provide for me a line like that for updated packages for >sources.list that lists a currently available server (if one is >available)? > my /etc/apt/sources.list looks like: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main deb http://debian.parsed.net unstable main deb-src http://debian.parsed.net unstable main after changing /etc/apt/sources.list , run apt-get update this will build the source trees in /var/lib/apt/lists you might want to get rid of the lined in sources.list that are unstable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fetchmailrc and spamc
Finally I found what I was looking for: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/exim-spamassassin/ Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List, since a while I have tried to configure my laptop to fetch my emails from my pop3 box (this part is ok) _AND_ to use spamc to put away the junk emails: I can not figure out how to do that. Any sample of configuration files may be hepful, as up to now I am lost in the manuals. Thanks in advance, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla-Thunderbird and URL Links?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:02:02 -0500 "Marc Shapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do I get Thunderbird to open a link when I click on it? I know > that Thunderbird is only a mail/news client, so it can't open it > directly, but where do I tell it which browser to open links in? I > have several browsers available (Konqueror, Opera, Mozilla-Firebird), > but it does not use any of them. What am I missing, here? > Hi, I know you can configure that under gnome -» Preferences. -- Rafael Alexandre Schmitt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: keeping Debian up to date and checking the version number
People, Thanks for the help. I am more than reassured enough to move my Debian box into service now. This is good news because I could do with a Linux box at home. A cron job has been set to do the updating via apt, and I will check apt-check-sic (I assume this is the apt-check-sic.pl script I got from google) to ensure updates are are genuine. Oh and Wynn. I promise to start my posts with 'People' in future. I assume this is appropriate for yourself? ;) Ad. -- Kind regards, Adam Barton. wynn wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 11:19:24PM +, Adam Barton wrote: Guys, what about us 'non-guys'? wynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good front end for small postgress dtabases?
Nano Nano([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 08:47:53AM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > [snip] > > Changing amver=1.7 to amver=1.4, in proj, allowed proj to finish > > without error. ./configure fails with > > Package atk was not found in the pkg-config search path > > > > No Joy. :-( > > Here's all things pkg-config is looking for: > atk gdk-pixbuf-2.0 gdk-x11-2.0 glib-2.0 gobject-2.0 gmodule-2.0 gtk+-x11-2.0 > libglade-2.0 libxml-2.0 pango pangox pangoxft librsvg-2.0 > > Here's my *rough guess* as to how to meet these dependencies: > #apt-get install libatk1.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev libglib2.0-dev \ > libglade2-dev libxml2-dev libpango1.0-dev librsvg2-dev > > I actually don't use glade or svg here - yet. But I consider those two > to be part of a "modern gnome build environment", and I reuse proj.c. > > I got my "modern gnome build environment" by src lines to my > sources.list and typing: > #apt-get install dia2sce; apt-get build-dep gnome-control-center > > That will bring in several other dependencies that may also be required; > I dunno. As I have no to plans to 'Gnome" this, or any, of my boxen I will have to pass. Just thought I would see what you had produced. Good Luck!! Wayne -- Cannot load Windows 95, Incorrect DOS Version. ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: charter font in debian's openoffice.org1.1
Matt Price([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > Hi, > > recentfly upgraded to OOo1.1 using the relativley new sid > debs. New version is lovely -- well-done! -- but I've lost some fonts > and don't understand how to get them back. The README.Debian states > the following: > > Missing fonts on upgrade to 1.1.0 > - > As part of the integration of Ximian's work, openoffice now uses > fontconfig to > determine the installed fonts on your system. Fonts that were > installed using > the 'spadmin' tool in a non-standard directory are no longer > supported. You > should move those fonts to a directory that fontconfig knows about, > such as > ~/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts. The same applies if you made use of > special > paths with SAL_FONTPATH_PRIVATE. > > > ok... but where do I find the fonts that spadmin installed? the main > one I'm worried about is charter, which I use 'cause it's pretty, > fairly straightforward, and has a useful italics mode (thhe bittstream > vera serif, which is the default, doesn't). The only filles named > "charter""" i cna find are in > /usr/share/texmf/fonts/afm/bitstrea/charter > I just updated a few days ago. Locate finds the openoffice fonts here: /usr/lib/openoffice/share/psprint/fontmetric That dir is dated 12/29, when I updated but the file /usr/lib/openoffice/share/psprint/pspfontcache is dated 12/31, when I first got a chance to do some work with the editor. I didn't run spadmin so OO must have gone out and updated the fonts. You might also checl /etc/openoffice/psprint.conf. > how do I "move" them to .fonts, as the readme suggests, or fix the > probem otherwise? Got me (?). I haven't lost any fonts but I have been running the unstable version for months. HTH=Hope This Helps, YMMV=Your Mileage May Vary, HAND=Have A Nice Day Wayne -- The day-to-day travails of the IBM programmer are so amusing to most of us who are fortunate enough never to have been one -- like watching Charlie Chaplin trying to cook a shoe. ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mozilla-Thunderbird and URL Links?
How do I get Thunderbird to open a link when I click on it? I know that Thunderbird is only a mail/news client, so it can't open it directly, but where do I tell it which browser to open links in? I have several browsers available (Konqueror, Opera, Mozilla-Firebird), but it does not use any of them. What am I missing, here? Marc Shapiro _ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian newbie confused over apt and packages
Alright, I just started using Debian after being mainly a Mandrake user. Installed Woody and I know most of the packages like Apache, etc. need upgrades. But packages.debian.org is down. Can apt-get upgrade use different servers? Are they mirrored? I was looking through the US server http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/, but I couldn't find any packages, only lists of packages. Needless to say I'm confused as to what servers I can put in sources.list at this time. Is deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main still up? Could someone provide for me a line like that for updated packages for sources.list that lists a currently available server (if one is available)? (This box will be online as soon as the UPS man brings me my new router.) -- [ Russ Schneider (a.k.a. Sugapablo) ] [ http://www.sugapablo.com <--music ] [ http://www.sugapablo.net <--personal ] [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] <--jabber IM ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Writer does not work for audio CD
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 10:00:43PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > I've always had bad luck with CDBakeoven. Things have worked much better > (for me at least) with K3b and XCDRoast. > > That having been said, before you can get any atapi CD drive to work > with cdrecord, you need to enable scsi emulation. It's a (minor) pain, > and I've heard that this won't be necessary with the 2.6 kernel, but for > the 2.4.x kernel it's required. Not really: I am using 2.4.22 and burning with atapi, without scsi emulation. hpd:/home/tony/work# cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a19 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 J?rg Schilling scsidev: 'ATAPI' devname: 'ATAPI' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Using ATA Packet interface. Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha. Warning: There may be fatal problems. Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'JLMS' 'XJ-HD166S ' 'DPS6' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) 'HP ' 'DVD Writer 300n ' '1.25' Removable CD-ROM 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * and then hpd:/home/tony/work# cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 -v speed=12 bootbf*iso Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a19 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 J?rg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: 'ATAPI:0,1,0' devname: 'ATAPI' scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0 Warning: Using ATA Packet interface. Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha. Warning: There may be fatal problems. Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'HP ' Identifikation : 'DVD Writer 300n ' Revision : '1.25' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM. Current: 0x0009 Profile: 0x001B Profile: 0x001A Profile: 0x0010 Profile: 0x000A Profile: 0x0009 (current) Profile: 0x0008 (current) Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1345536 = 1314 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data38 MB Total size: 43 MB (04:20.29) = 19522 sectors Lout start: 44 MB (04:22/22) = 19522 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 4 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+) (3) ATIP start of lead in: -11077 (97:34/23) ATIP start of lead out: 359848 (79:59/73) Disk type:Long strategy type (Cyanine, AZO or similar) Manuf. index: 11 Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation Blocks total: 359848 Blocks current: 359848 Blocks remaining: 340326 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 8 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is ON. Turning BURN-Free off Performing OPC... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 38 of 38 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 100%] 8.5x. Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 39976960/39976960 (19520 sectors). Writing time: 39.613s Average write speed 7.4x. Min drive buffer fill was 100% Fixating... Fixating time: 30.935s cdrecord.mmap: fifo had 630 puts and 630 gets. cdrecord.mmap: fifo was 0 times empty and 557 times full, min fill was 96%. Despite the warnings, the CD came out perfectly! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: C'mon, let's get free movie tickets!
Before going further how did you get my e-mail address. Do I know you? Please identify yourself. Alex __ Reply Separator _ Subject: C'mon, let's get free movie tickets! Author: "Julia Leonardo" at HQ-IRM-001 Date:12/29/2003 2:20 PM Don't forget! Go here and we'll both get free movie tickets! http://freeflixtix.com/v.html?m=c0e9ba9&v=62634b seeya, Julia -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mplayer and audio
-- - Original Message - DATE: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 14:42:36 From: Gustavo Halperin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: >Hello > My mplayer like simple user can't open de audio device, only like root. >With other aplications like xmms all is ok. Also have added a simple user >in the audio group (in file /etc/group). > Any idea what can be the problem ?? >By the way I'm using Woody revision 1 and also the Nas server audio. > > Thank you >-- >Regards. >gustavo halperin Have you tried as root or sudo add audio group? HTH Don Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unsubscribe
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 11:50:16AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > unsubscribe > > how mane times do I have to send this email. Try sending it somewhere *other* than the mailing list. It will continue to have absolutely no effect if you send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See the list footer: > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Please suggest a mobo for >4 IDE drives.
> From: Ramasubramanian Ramesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Today 09:03:46 > > Paul, > Sorry for starting the second thread. But some how the first thread > seem to have given the wrong impression about why I was looking for > RAID > controller. You can easily see from the replies that it went deep into > the worlds of RAID as opposed to leading to 5+drives on the same mobo. > To make sure that the real intention comes out, I simply abandoned the > first one and started a new one. This ways the subject line is > clearer > - I do not care for the RAID but want another set of IDE controller/ > host. > Thanks and Regards > Ramesh You really do not need another motherboard, but an ATA controller card. Most motherboards will only have 2 IDE connectors on the board, for up to 4 drives, so if you have say a cdrom, a dvdrom and two harddrives you have already maxed out the connectors. Or if you want a Zip drive, or a dvd writer, what do you do then? I say use your current motherboard, and just purchase a controller card. Such as the highpoint, or promise controllers, you can pick them up for a good price. Just make sure they have Linux drivers, both highpoint, and promise are supported in the newer kernels. Rthoreau -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmailrc and spamc
Hello List, since a while I have tried to configure my laptop to fetch my emails from my pop3 box (this part is ok) _AND_ to use spamc to put away the junk emails: I can not figure out how to do that. Any sample of configuration files may be hepful, as up to now I am lost in the manuals. Thanks in advance, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody: devpts, pppd, and kernel-2.6: failed connection to /dev/pts/0
Hi, Today I've installed kernel-image-2.6.0 from backports.org on my woody pc. Until now I've always used self-compiled kernels, but decided to change to the kernel-images now. Those have devpts compiled in,while I had that never in my own kernels. Not sure why, but in any case, I never had problems. To use devtps, I added it to /etc/fstab: devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 Reboot worked ok, save for a couple of (hopefully) unrelated warnings. The output of mount looks correct to me: devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) But, using kernel-image-2.6.0, I lost my internet connection over pppoe. Investigation showed that with my 2.4 kernel without devpts, pppd would establish a connection over /dev/ttyp0: Dec 31 17:38:24 sonic pppd[275]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Dec 31 17:38:24 sonic pppd[275]: Serial connection established. Dec 31 17:38:24 sonic pppd[275]: using channel 1 Dec 31 17:38:24 sonic pppd[275]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 31 17:38:24 sonic pppd[275]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyp0 Dec 31 17:38:25 sonic pppd[275]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Dec 31 17:38:25 sonic pppd[275]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 ] [...] Using the kernel-image, pppd tries to use /dev/pts/, which fails, and leads to a timeout: Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: Serial connection established. Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/0 Dec 31 18:07:05 sonic pppd[447]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Dec 31 18:07:05 sonic pppd[447]: Connection terminated. All amounts of googling and trying stuff lead to nothing. Unfortunately, after booting 2.6, I lost my mouse with the 2.4 kernel, so now I have to choose between no internet with 2.6 and no mouse with 2.4. Hopefully somebody knows how to fix one of those, preferably the devpts issue :) Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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charter font in debian's openoffice.org1.1
Hi, recentfly upgraded to OOo1.1 using the relativley new sid debs. New version is lovely -- well-done! -- but I've lost some fonts and don't understand how to get them back. The README.Debian states the following: Missing fonts on upgrade to 1.1.0 - As part of the integration of Ximian's work, openoffice now uses fontconfig to determine the installed fonts on your system. Fonts that were installed using the 'spadmin' tool in a non-standard directory are no longer supported. You should move those fonts to a directory that fontconfig knows about, such as ~/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts. The same applies if you made use of special paths with SAL_FONTPATH_PRIVATE. ok... but where do I find the fonts that spadmin installed? the main one I'm worried about is charter, which I use 'cause it's pretty, fairly straightforward, and has a useful italics mode (thhe bittstream vera serif, which is the default, doesn't). The only filles named "charter""" i cna find are in /usr/share/texmf/fonts/afm/bitstrea/charter how do I "move" them to .fonts, as the readme suggests, or fix the probem otherwise? thanks, matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good front end for small postgress dtabases?
Colin Watson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 08:47:53AM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > > Nano Nano([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 08:57:51PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > > > > I wondered about. I am running testing and have automake 1.4-p6-2, > > > > which is the latest version for testing/unstable, or so apt-get tells > > > > me. The ./proj fails because its looking for aclocal-1.7. The latest > > > > automake has aclocal-1.4. > > > > > > > > I won't go out to find an automake thats not a debian packgage, but > > > > thats me. > > > > > > I'm running SID. I expect you can edit the AMVER and ACVER in proj > > > and/or proj.c to the version numbers you have and it will work. (proj > > > is generated by running "gcc proj.c; ./a.out".) > > > > 'apt-get -s -t unstable install automake' says I have the latest version > > and I just did an update yesterday. So SID != unstable?? Thats what > > confused me. > > sid is unstable. Try the automake1.7 package; they have different names > so that you can install multiple versions in parallel. :-( Why didn't I look at apt-cache search automake? Looked at everything -but- that. Thanks Colin. My head was up and locked, where the Sun don't shine. Wayne -- The program is absolutely right; therefore the computer must be wrong. ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fas anyone gotten fwbuilder to work?
I'm trying to et fwbuilder to work. I've tried on a testing machine that I just updated today _and_ and unstable machine. In both cases when I try to run it, it complains about npt finding some files. Looks like the files are in /usr/share/fwbuilder/*. But it can't find them. Is there an environment variable, or something that I need to set? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from stable to testing with apt-get?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 at 17:02 GMT, Josh Robinson penned: > > --=-uzmGsEA+c4X4kdWAzKLY Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > >> Your must have set your partitions up as logical partitions. Logical >> partitions start at 5. > > how wonderfully, err, logical > Logical vs. Primary. Logical partitions are a work-around for the fact that you can only have four primary partitions. So 1-4 are reserved for primary partitions, and logical partitions start at 5. See, it *is* logical =) I'm not sure why you can only have four primary partitions, nor whether the logical partition scheme (which after all sounds like a hack) has any pitfalls. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re:apac video card
At Wednesday, 31 December 2003, you wrote: >i am trying to configure xfree86 w/ dpkg-reconfigure to work w/ an >old apac pci-bus video card. there is no apac driver available in >the list of drivers so i selected the vga driver, 16-bit color, and >the smallest screen size available. when gdm starts, the monitor >flashes between blank screen and the console. apparently, xserver >does not like my configuration. i read an xfree86-howto but this >hasn't lead me to my misconfiguration. > >does anyone have any suggestions as to what i may do to resolve this? > it turns out the chipset is an s3 set and i configured that fine now. new problem :) startx starts the xserver just fine. i have no gnome environment installed ... so i have no access to the machine. how can i get around this??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Concurrent sound playback without a sound server
Inspired by a very good article about ALSA in the German magazine c't
26/2003, I finally got the ALSA dmix plugin working fine and thus rid of
problems with apps blocking each other on sound playback, without
needing any of the sound servers which all are unsatisfactory for me
(not to mention that I couldn't get many of them working correctly at
all on my TiBook). I thought I'd share my experience, hoping it will be
useful for others.
First of all, you need to get ALSA working to the point where you
basically hear correct sound. This shouldn't be hard with the Debian
ALSA packages, in particular with a 2.6 kernel, so I won't go into
details here.
The next step is setting up ALSA to use the dmix plugin (official
documentation at
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html#pcm_plugins_dmix). Put
something like this in /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc:
pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm dmixer
}
pcm.dmixer {
type dmix
ipc_key 1024 # This must be a unique IPC key (see ipcs output)
ipc_key_add_uid true # UID will be added to IPC key
slave {
pcm "hw:0"
period_time 0
period_size 1024 # Must be power of 2 for alsa-oss
buffer_size 8192 # ditto
rate 44100
}
}
This sets up a PCM device called dmixer using the dmix plugin and
overrides the default PCM device to use it via the conversion plugin,
which will convert the sound format, rate and number of channels on the
fly if necessary (the dmix plugin only supports a fixed constellation of
these parameters due to the way it works).
Now you should be able to use any number of ALSA apps concurrently. The
problem is that still only a minority of apps use ALSA directly, at
least by default. Luckily, most (can) use a standard library for sound
playback, e.g. SDL; for those, you may have to set these environment
variables:
SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa
AUDIODEV=default # This isn't necessary with the default device fix from
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=225252
For OpenAL, I use
(define devices '(alsa sdl native))
in ~/.openalrc, which tells it to try ALSA first (the current OpenAL
packages in Debian don't support ALSA directly though), then SDL and
only then direct access to /dev/dsp.
So far, so good, but there's still the odd app which can only access
/dev/dsp directly for sound. That's what alsa-oss is for, which
unfortunately isn't available in Debian yet (though I'm told that will
change after the next DeMuDi release, planned for mid January), but
almost as conveniently from
deb http://apt.agnula.org unstablemain contrib non-free
(or the corresponding deb-src entry for non-i386 users). It works by
preloading a library (libaoss) which translates direct access to OSS
devices into ALSA library calls. It provides a script called aoss, but
you probably want to add /usr/lib/libaoss.so to the LD_PRELOAD
environment variable. It also requires the following additions to the
ALSA configuration:
pcm.dsp0 pcm.default
ctl.mixer0 "hw:0"
The major remaining problem for me is that xine doesn't work well with
dmix, see http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=6793623.
My main usage scenario has been listening to music with alsaplayer while
playing armagetron. :)
Happy dmixing, and Happy New Year!
PS: I'm not subscribed to the debian-user list.
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Software libre enthusiast| http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer
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Re: Public / private IP addresses
On Monday 29 December 2003 04:43 am, Antony Gelberg wrote: > But if they wanted to run a public email server as well, clearly that > needs a public IP address. Fine, but how does the routing aspect > work? Do I need to ditch the bridging configuration on the firewall > and reconfigure it as a router with 3 NICs? One connected to the > WAN, one to the private LAN switch, and one to the public server(s) > switch? There are a number of ways to accomplish what you're looking to do. Agreed, for your current setup your bridged firewall is probably a nice way to do things. The three port bridged environment looks tricky to implement correctly, and while it could be done, it'll probably long-term be more trouble than it's worth. Some folks gave you some other options, which were definitely "workable" but mix your public and private traffic. If you trust your switches to keep that traffic separate even under the load of a DoS attack, that might be a reasonable way to go. I like to think in terms of "what MUST be up and running for this to work" and engineer the network accordingly. For example, if you were to move the mail server completely OUTSIDE the firewall (put a switch between the DSL router and the firewall and hang the mail server off of that) and then if you're careful and harden the box, you can just place it directly on a public IP and run a host-based iptables firewall and say maybe snort to keep an eye on suspicious traffic to it. Why do this? Well, perhaps one reason is that if the firewall is down, the mail is still up and getting deliveries. The DSL router and a switch are an order of magnitude more "robust" than the firewall which could be down for upgrades, etc. Think "maintenance". The "just put a public address inside the firewall" works fine too but could create havok if the mail server is attacked or heavily loaded... affecting overall network performance for the clients already on the private-side network. Port-forwarding would be my least likely pick because it puts public traffic directly on the internal IP range. I don't like that idea at all if it can be avoided. I have used it in the past for a quick-and-dirty solution to get something working that was originally an "internal only" application that suddenly needs to have a worldwide presence, but that's definitely not my proudest "security decision" I've ever had to make. It's all about risk-management and load-management and documenting the possible solutions and then picking one for a reason... going through that process will also point out the negatives of any particular setup and will allow you to know more fully where your system has weaknesses. Have fun, -- Nate Duehr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange Sparc Behavior: FTP, HTTP broken
On Sunday 28 December 2003 05:23 pm, Scott Robert Ladd wrote: > I'm running several Linux systems, and have been doing so for quite > some time, so I'm not exactly a newbie at this stuff. But my > UltraSparc box has me completely baffled. Definitely sounds odd. > FTP and HTTP are broken to the internet, but not locally. In other > words, I can FTP into a system on my LAN, but FTP times out to the > network. HTTP is the same way. I can ping systems (for example, > ftp.debian.org), but FTP times out connecting to them. Have you tried setting FTP to passive mode? > I've tried connecting the system directly to my DSL modem (bypassing > the network), without success. I've tried various cables. I've > studied my configuration files. I've sacrificed a black goat at > midnight. LOL! You forgot the rubber chicken. > I see nothing unusual in the logs. What, pray tell, could be keeping > the system from talking to nodes outside my LAN? Can't see much here that would cause it unless there's a transparent proxy misconfigured somewhere or a DNS issue. I'm assuming you're running Debian/Sparc on the UltraSparc machine. If it's any consolation, one of my mail/webservers is a Sun Ultra 1 running "testing" and haven't seen any weirdness with ftp or http from that box. You could (just as a test) try hooking it up outside the firewall temporarily and see if the firewall is doing something funky. Also, I have had interesting issues with Sparc boxes not auto-negotiating speed/duplex to cheap switches many many times over the years... but that shouldn't cause the weird behavior you're seeing...??? -- Nate Duehr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Caper.
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 10:34:53PM -0800, Jonathan Lassoff wrote: > Thanks a bunch you guys. You cleared up a lot of issues and misconceptions > I had. I thought that you could boot another kernel while another was > running, although in hindsight, I don't know why I thought that as the > current running kernel would alredy be in high memory and such... > > Well, I found a good floppy and installed a syslinux image by hand and > copied the proper kernel and initrd image over and it boots now. But I > still have one problem. I am trying to boot the new stable 2.6.0 kernel > and it say s some error and that I need to pass an init= option to the > kernel. I've never gotten this before in 2.4 kernels. What is the init > option and how should I use it? > Always try to quote the exact error message, not "it says some error". However, when you see a message about "init=", it usually means the kernel couldn't find /sbin/init. Either that file is missing, or (more likely) the kernel can't read the root partition, or is trying to read some other partition. -- No animal should ever jump on the dining room furniture unless absolutely certain he can hold his own in conversation. -- Fran Lebowitz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from stable to testing with apt-get?
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Re: web based vnc client
Kent West wrote: > Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > >>Hi >> >>Does anybody know of a web based vnc client that can connect to hosts >>other then itself? >> >>thanx >>-- >>Haim >> >> >> >> > I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but VNC servers have a web > server natively built into them. So using any Java-enabled browser, you > can connect and control any computer running a VNC server by pointing > your browser to the IP address of the computer, followed by a colon, > followed by the port number that the VNC server is listening on, which > should be 5800 + the number of the display, as in: > http://haimspc:5800 > > See http://www.realvnc.com/javavncviewer.html for more info. > thanks, but that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a web vnc client that can connect to other vnc servers in the network. I've found something called phpvnc and I'm trying to make it work. Bye -- Haim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about latex and tables
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 11:55:17AM +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > On Saturday 20 December 2003 08:43, lakshmi wrote: > > I have a table that is too big (too long) to fit on one page. Can > > LaTeX break this table by itself ? How ? > > Yep, check out supertabular, I've had good experiences with that. See > also longtable, it's said to be easier to use. You'll find it all on > CTAN: http://www.ctan.org/ > If on debian, longtable is already part tetex-base. Install tetex-extra to get the supertabular package. Regards, -- Sridhar M.A.GPG KeyID : F0225B2C Fingerprint: F7CC 61A8 C6C1 D29C 2863 4E20 8A78 A19D F022 You are farsighted, a good planner, an ardent lover, and a faithful friend. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: web based vnc client
Haim Ashkenazi wrote: Hi Does anybody know of a web based vnc client that can connect to hosts other then itself? thanx -- Haim I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but VNC servers have a web server natively built into them. So using any Java-enabled browser, you can connect and control any computer running a VNC server by pointing your browser to the IP address of the computer, followed by a colon, followed by the port number that the VNC server is listening on, which should be 5800 + the number of the display, as in: http://haimspc:5800 See http://www.realvnc.com/javavncviewer.html for more info. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Darkness
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 07:01:09AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 10:58:54AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: > > cdparanoia has tremendous problems with the disc, which plays ok in a CD > > player. If anyone out there has it, can they have a go at ripping it? > > The back label mentions "digital copy protection", which I find rather > > worrying... > > I didn't have problems ripping my copy of the CD. If it mentions > digital copy protection, return it to the store as a defective disc. > > -- > .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi carbon-based debian-beings, IIRC, if it does contain the DREADED DRM, it is suppose to contain some non-music data on the first track, thus this may be the thing that can't be gotten past. Try starting to rip other tracks , not #1. But by all means, email, make a stink about DRM on label and other rants! In south america, someone took his case to BMG IIRC and WON!. Happy new $EPOCH! -Kev signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Upgrading from stable to testing with apt-get?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:33:55 +, Josh Robinson wrote: > all sorted out: thanks to all for your help. nice shiny box, working as > new - and i no longer have to use pine to get at my email! > > for some reason, my partitions are hda5 through 8 - i have no idea quite > how or why i set them up like that, but once i'd found that out, it was > all ok. > > oh, and using the non-corrupt version of the woody CD that i've got was > something of a help, too. > > thanks again, > > josh Your must have set your partitions up as logical partitions. Logical partitions start at 5. -- paul Programming without a hex editor is like watchmaking without a hammer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: messages in mutt: \225 etc
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 at 14:10 GMT, Lucas Bergman penned: > > > Of course, many (most?) mail clients that writes messages in Windows > > 1252 fail to *say so* in the content-type field. This problem exists > > in web pages, too, but we're not noticing it as much anymore, since > > Mozilla has gotten quite good at guessing funny Microsoft character > > sets and doing the Right Thing. Why am I then seeing so many 'square blocks' instead of quote marks in many web pages? Am I using the wrong font in Mozilla? -- "...every community should be one of voluntarism, to the extent that it lives for and through its own people and does not force others to pay its bills. Communities should not be exempted from the civil liberty prescribed for people -- the exclusive enjoyment of all their own powers for their own welfare. This means that no one should serve you involuntarily and that you should not involuntarily serve anyone else." -- Karl Hess Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Drives are not being detected
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 01:16:36PM +1000, Andy Gayton wrote: > I'm running stable woody 3.0r2. > > I originally installed the machine with 2 hard drives on the primary ide > controller and a cd drive as master on the secondary controller. I > installed off cd and everything came up fine. > I've now tried to add a third hard drive onto the secondary ide controller. > I think I got the master/slave settings conflicting when I first tried to > bring the system up - I didn't have a monitor on the box when bringing it > up the first couple times. The box came up ok and the 2 drives on the > primary controller were all good, but nothing from the secondary > controller. I put a monitor on to see what was going on, the bios was > detecting everything ok, but I still couldn't see anything from inside of > linux for the secondary controller. The bios was displaying this message: > > secondary ide channel no 80 conductor cable installed > > Which looks like I should be using a different cable, but shouldn't stop > things from working? Hi Andy, I'd really check the drive jumpers. Just to be 200% sure that they are setup correctly! -Kev signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: messages in mutt: \225 etc
Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lucas Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:12:31:08:10:39-0600] scribed: > > > In the "Windows 1252" character set, \225 represents a "bullet", > > which seems likely to be the intention here. See: > > > > http://www.jwz.org/docs/charsets.html > > That link does not work here. Have you checked it recently? Arg. http://www.jwz.org/doc/charsets.html Lucas -- Lucas Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tired of getting duplicate copies of mailing list messages? I respect the 'mail-followup-to' header field: http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Drives are not being detected
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Andy Gayton wrote: > > if that's a cdrw vs cdrom, you will need to do more boot/kernel fiddling > > with scsi-emulation and not just 'cdrom' issue > > It is a cdrw - but it worked with boot/kernel settings as is fine before I started > to add the new disk .. no sure why it doesn't work no when I've put everything back > in its old configuration .. depending on the kernel ... if you config'd hdc=ide-scsi... and you unplug the cdrw and insert a hd, than sometimes the hd is NOT recognized ... and vice versa - change lilo/gurb to boot the other kernel options for hdc depending on what you have plugged into hdc 2.4.23cdrw -- cdrw on hdc with "hdc=ide-scsi" 2.4.23 3rd disk on hdc c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: messages in mutt: \225 etc
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 at 14:10 GMT, Lucas Bergman penned: > > Actually Latin 1, not ASCII. (ASCII only contains characters from > \000 to \177 inclusive.) > >> > Details that may be relevant: >> > >> > At least in one message's case, 'v' in mutt shows the content as >> > text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii > > Well, we know that's bogus since \225 has the eighth bit set. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. > > In the "Windows 1252" character set, \225 represents a "bullet", which > seems likely to be the intention here. See: > > http://www.jwz.org/docs/charsets.html That link gives me a 404. But now that you've suggested the likely character set, I'll google and see what I find. Mutt does allow me to edit the content type, but changing the charset to windows-1252 has no effect. I assume that I need to worry about both mutt *and* my terminal recognizing the charset? I could ask the senders what they're using and point out the problem, but given that these are generally non-technically-Inclined folks, sometimes emailing from their workplace, I doubt that pointing out that their mail clients are misidentifying character sets is going to be terribly effective. I'd rather solve it at my end. > Of course, many (most?) mail clients that writes messages in Windows > 1252 fail to *say so* in the content-type field. This problem exists > in web pages, too, but we're not noticing it as much anymore, since > Mozilla has gotten quite good at guessing funny Microsoft character > sets and doing the Right Thing. Yup; if I understand what mutt was telling me properly, the message had no charset identified at all, and mutt simply assumed us-ascii. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Re: Please suggest a mobo for >4 IDE drives.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 09:03:46 -0600, Ramasubramanian Ramesh wrote: > Paul, > > Sorry for starting the second thread. But some how the first thread > seem to have given the wrong impression about why I was looking for RAID > controller. You can easily see from the replies that it went deep into > the worlds of RAID as opposed to leading to 5+drives on the same mobo. > To make sure that the real intention comes out, I simply abandoned the > first one and started a new one. This ways the subject line is clearer > - I do not care for the RAID but want another set of IDE controller/host. > > Thanks and Regards > Ramesh You don't have to apologize to me. Anyway, you have what you need, which is the main thing :) -- paul Programming without a hex editor is like watchmaking without a hammer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from stable to testing with apt-get?
all sorted out: thanks to all for your help. nice shiny box, working as new - and i no longer have to use pine to get at my email! for some reason, my partitions are hda5 through 8 - i have no idea quite how or why i set them up like that, but once i'd found that out, it was all ok. oh, and using the non-corrupt version of the woody CD that i've got was something of a help, too. thanks again, josh signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
