URGETN HLP PLS date/time settings

[Vijaya S]

Hi all,
The mail server 's date and time has gone one day ahead and it has
debian unstable installed on it.
it shows Wed Aug 18 10:25:59 IST 2004
but the actual time and date now is Tue Aug 17 12:21:04 IST 2004
how do i get it right

Regards,
Vijaya




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Re: On downloading Debian ISOs

[Kevin Mark]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 10:30:37AM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:11:54 -0400 (EDT), "Loki"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > 
> > However, keep in mind that the more disks you download at work (via
> > broadband) the fewer packages you're going to have to download at home
> > (via dialup).
> 
> Yeah ... that's the reason I am trying to get as much as possible at
> work. 
> 
> > It's also not a bad idea to Google for the ISO filenames. I got much
> > quicker downloading access by spreading my downloads across a number of
> > 'unofficial' mirrors that aren't listed at debian.org.
> 
> Thanks for that tip. :) 
Hi Raksesh,
the easy way to do it is to get the first cd. Debian makes the ISO's
based on what people really use. The first cd has the most widely used
software. So once you download and install the first cd, you will have
95% of the software you will need. After that, you can search the debian
site to see what you want to get.
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urgetn help date/time settings on debian

[Vijaya S]

Hi all,
The mail server 's date and time has gone one day ahead and it has
debian unstable installed on it.
it shows Wed Aug 18 10:25:59 IST 2004
but the actual time and date now is Tue Aug 17 12:21:04 IST 2004
how do i get it right

Regards,
Vijaya


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Re: 'umask' and mounting of vfat filesystem.

[Daniel M .]

>VFAT doesn't support unix-style file permissions. What you're seeing
>is a unix-style system trying to do the best it can on a crappy
>filesystem. It won't get any better than what you've got.

I know all that, but *why* permissions on some files cannot be set properly - 
that is my initial question, what is so different about those files that 'mount'
cannot set proper permissions on them (which is quite annoying, since
I don't know what permissions to set for vfat filesystems so that an
unprivileged users will be able to use it properly)?


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Re: On downloading Debian ISOs

[Rakhesh Sasidharan]

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:11:54 -0400 (EDT), "Loki"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> However, keep in mind that the more disks you download at work (via
> broadband) the fewer packages you're going to have to download at home
> (via dialup).

Yeah ... that's the reason I am trying to get as much as possible at
work. 

> It's also not a bad idea to Google for the ISO filenames. I got much
> quicker downloading access by spreading my downloads across a number of
> 'unofficial' mirrors that aren't listed at debian.org.

Thanks for that tip. :) 


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Re: On downloading Debian ISOs

[Rakhesh Sasidharan]

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:38:23 +1200, "Simon Kitching"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> Just as a side-note, I hope you didn't download the "Woody" (Debian 3.0)
> files. The new release is due out *very* soon, and is a major
> improvement over the previous version. Unless you are are intending to
> set up a production server, you will probably be best off downloading
> the "testing" version, ie what will become the stable version shortly.
> In particular, the installation process is vastly improved.

Oops! :) I downloaded the Debian 3.0r2 ISO (the first and half of the
second). Guess I'll wait till 3.1 is released then, right? 

Thanks a lot for writing that in. Would have been a tragedy for me to
realize that after downloading with so much effort, a new version has
been released! :) 

Rakhesh

ps. Is it me, or does everyone NOT get copies of mails they send to the
list? I noted in the confirmation mail from this list that by default my
mails will be returned to me, but I do not seem to be getting any.
Strange ... 


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Re: Serial terminal in testing?

[Nate Duehr]

On Monday 16 August 2004 20:31, Michael D. Crawford wrote:
> minicom looks like just what I want, thanks!
>
> But is there a way to avoid "initializing the modem" when it starts up?
>   When my device receives any input from the serial line, it enters a
> little homebrew debugger.  I'd like to just connect.

Someone else mentioned the --noinit option.  

You can also remove the initialization string in the default setup with 
minicom -s .

> Also, the status line says "offline" all the time.  Do I need to do
> something to put it online?

It always connects to your serial port -- it's just telling you that it never 
dialed the modem into a system and got a connect message. 

Remember, it's basically a "Telix" clone from the DOS BBS days.  It thinks 
you're using it to set up a list of 20 BBS's to dial to get your messages and 
chat with other online users on (gasp) Compuserve!  (GRIN)

Today, it gets used because it has "reasonable" terminal emulation and 
time-tested serial port code for things like you're using it for... to talk 
to a small serial device.  But that wasn't its original purpose.

I like firing up minicom just for the nostalgia!  Recently I dug up "evidence" 
of the main BBS I frequented in 1986!  I'm very sure the guy who used to run 
it probably doesn't have the phone number anymore, but I'm highly tempted to 
go do a reverse lookup on the number or just to call it to see if Ron 
answers.  ;-)

300 baud with no dialer... man, those were the days.  Programs like minicom 
and 1200 baud came later.  (GRIN)  I still remember drooling over a friend's 
REAL Hayes modem... in all it's 300 baud auto-dial glory.  I had to wait a 
year until an overseas company started making knockoffs -- 300/1200 baud 
auto-dial and auto-answer was a luxury I was dying to have by that point!

(And some dude who remembers his 75 baud teletype interface is going to get 
all nostalgic here now and call me a "young whippersnapper" I'm sure.)

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Re: Serial terminal in testing?

[Nate Duehr]

On Monday 16 August 2004 20:08, Kevin Mark wrote:

> Of these, I know minicom works, I use it to send 'atdt' to my modem if
> it wont hangup. Also, folks at my local wireless group use it to work
> with embeded soekris boards.

You should send it "ATH".  Possibly with a "+++" first to get it into 
command mode...

 "ATDT" is telling it to dial again!

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ldaptor-ldap2dhcpconf

[Dave Harrison]

Hi All,

I'm pondering moving my dhcpd.conf file into LDAP.  The only tool I've
found so far that could help me with it is ldaptor-ldap2dhcpconf.
However it seems undocumented as to the schema it requires or the way
that it works.
Can anyone enlighten me about how this tool expects the directory to
look, and the schema that it wants ?

It might also be the case that there are better tools for the job.
Has anyone successfully run dhcp out of ldap ? if so how ?

cheers
Dave

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Re: X resolution gnome/wmaker

[Simon Kitching]

On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 14:40, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just installed Sarge from Netinst (very cool) and have
> X11 running.  The problem is that the resolution is 
> incredibly high (1600x1200) and I cannot see the icons
> or fonts very well.  I am using Wmaker and Gnome as the
> desktop.  I have tried to reconfigure using both gnome-conf
> and wmakerconf.  Nothing seems to happen.
> 
> Using Ctl-Alt+ allows me to change resolution but then the
> icons don't fit the desktop.
> 
> Any help on how I can change resolution to 1280x968 and 
> increase font/icon size?

Well, for gnome-2.6, you just double click on the "start here" icon on
the desktop, select "desktop preferences" then "screen resolution".
There are also options for setting the font size in there.
Right-clicking on the gnome-panel allows the icon size to be tweaked.

Under the hood, the screen-resolution control is calling the X "R-and-R"
(Resize and Rotate) extension. There is an "xrandr" commandline tool to
do this too, though you don't get the nice confirmation dialog, and I
don't know if this tool makes the change permanent. I don't know if the
"xrandr" tool saves the changed resolution for next time.

I hope this helps,

Simon


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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox

[David P James]

On Mon 16 August 2004 17:37, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> What about those of us who do NOT use gnome?  Any ideas for the rest
> of us?  I use fvwm2.

You can try installing gnome-control-center but it looks like it'll pull 
in a lot of GNOME in so doing. I believe there is another way of doing 
this through gconf (a sort of Windows-like registry for GNOME but that 
doesn't require GNOME) but I've never been able to figure it out.


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Re: df weirdness

[Tony Fica]

Stefan Nicolai O'Rear wrote:
The numbers speak for themselves:
stefan:~$ df
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda6-56995908899k  1.0k  0.0k  69% /
/dev/hda7-2517482356645k  1.0k  0.0k  84% /usr
/dev/hda1-8113244456k  1.0k  0.0k  67% /boot
/dev/hda8-780491812383k  1.0k  0.0k  88% /home
/dev/hdb1-351934235768k  1.0k  0.0k  19% /var
/dev/hdb2-732883846947k  1.0k  0.0k   1% /tmp
/dev/hda2-2096916525k  1.0k  0.0k  10% /msdos
But, stat(1) works:
stefan:~$ stat -f /home
 File: "/home"
   ID: bb4f b908 Namelen: 255 Type: ext2/ext3
Blocks: Total: 745163 Free: 128636 Available: 90784  Size: 4096
Inodes: Total: 378624 Free: 271615

Any clue what's going on?
df (fileutils) 4.1
Linux stefans 2.2.20-custom_0 #6 Tue Aug 19 21:25:52 PDT 2003 i686 unknown
(recompiled boot-floppy kernel)
Stefan N. O'Rear
 

Had this problem once, if i remember right you need to install the 
coreutils package (what fileutils and some other utils turned into).

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Re: Serial terminal in testing?

[Simon Kitching]

On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 13:34, Michael D. Crawford wrote:
> Is there a serial terminal program in testing?  Like what you'd use to 
> log in to another host over a serial line?
> 
> Not something like xterm or gnome-terminal which is for login shells 
> over a network login.  I need something that communicates over serial 
> ports, and will let me set the baud rate and flow control.
> 
> I'm developing the firmware for an embedded device that sends debugging 
> messages out a serial port, and into the serial port on my PC.  When I 
> was using Windows I used Hyperterminal for this.  But I just got set up 
> to develop the firmware under linux instead.  Browsing through dselect I 
> couldn't find anything in the way of serial terminals for debian.
> 
> I'd be shocked if there wasn't something so I must be overlooking it.

The command
  apt-cache search serial
returns a number of likely-looking candidates.

Regards,

Simon



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Re: chkrootkit...lkm trojan?... only from gnome [from debian-user]

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Gregory Pierce:
> 
> In running chkrootkit (version 0.43) tonight I got the following
> warning:
> 
>   Checking `lkm'... You have16 process hidden for readdir command
> You have16 process hidden for ps command
> Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
> 
> But when I run chkrootkit from KDE it comes up clean.  Can I really be
> compromised and chkrootkit detect a trojan from within gnome but not
> when I am running from KDE?
> 
> I am not at all sure what to do from here.  Should I just start from
> scratch and re-install everything?

I think all chkrootkit installs should be accompanied by a banner
(which demands acknowledgement) which mentions what new users should
do when chkrootkit tells them something appears to be fishy.

  - check the chkrootkit archives( http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=chkrootkit-users)

  - send questions and queries to the chkrootkit mailing list
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Re: Serial terminal in testing?

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 11:31:21PM -0300, Michael D. Crawford wrote:
> minicom looks like just what I want, thanks!
> 
> But is there a way to avoid "initializing the modem" when it starts up? 
>  When my device receives any input from the serial line, it enters a 
> little homebrew debugger.  I'd like to just connect.

Hi, I think (after minicom --help) you want the --noinit option.

> 
> Also, the status line says "offline" all the time.  Do I need to do 
> something to put it online?
I think it means connect to a bbs or such.

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Debian equivalent of /etc/profile.d

[Jeremy Brown]

I've been trying Debian out off and on for the last two weeks and was 
following the instructions about creating and installing a Sun Java SDK 
package located in the java-common package...I was going to create a 
file "/etc/profile.d/jdk.sh" (to initialize some environment variables, 
mainly) when I realized that Debian doesn't seem to have an 
"/etc/profile.d" directory, just "/etc/profile".

What is the equivalent of "/etc/profile.d" in Debian?  Is there a 
package I can install to make this directory appear?  Or does all 
initialization I want to do need to go directly into the file 
"/etc/profile"?

Thanks,
Jeremy
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X resolution gnome/wmaker

[Lance Hoffmeyer]

Hello,

I just installed Sarge from Netinst (very cool) and have
X11 running.  The problem is that the resolution is 
incredibly high (1600x1200) and I cannot see the icons
or fonts very well.  I am using Wmaker and Gnome as the
desktop.  I have tried to reconfigure using both gnome-conf
and wmakerconf.  Nothing seems to happen.

Using Ctl-Alt+ allows me to change resolution but then the
icons don't fit the desktop.

Any help on how I can change resolution to 1280x968 and 
increase font/icon size?

lance


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Re: Serial terminal in testing?

[Michael D. Crawford]

minicom looks like just what I want, thanks!
But is there a way to avoid "initializing the modem" when it starts up? 
 When my device receives any input from the serial line, it enters a 
little homebrew debugger.  I'd like to just connect.

Also, the status line says "offline" all the time.  Do I need to do 
something to put it online?

I did read the man page, but I'm still unclear.
Thanks!
Michael D. Crawford
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RE: Systemimager 3.0.1-11 on Sarge.

[Michael Bellears]

> 
> You're probably better off asking on the systemimager support 
> list; see http://www.systemimager.org/support/.
> 
> However, you should provide more details when you ask for 
> help there; at least, the hardware you're trying to install 
> onto (including type of SCSI card, and drives.
> 
> You also may want to try upgrading to systemimager 3.2 from 
> the systemimager
> site: they have high quality debs.

Thanks Mark - I upgraded to the 3.2 Ver and it worked without a hitch!

Regards,
MB

Re: Serial terminal in testing?

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 10:34:12PM -0300, Michael D. Crawford wrote:
> Is there a serial terminal program in testing?  Like what you'd use to 
> log in to another host over a serial line?
> 
> Not something like xterm or gnome-terminal which is for login shells 
> over a network login.  I need something that communicates over serial 
> ports, and will let me set the baud rate and flow control.
> 
> I'm developing the firmware for an embedded device that sends debugging 
> messages out a serial port, and into the serial port on my PC.  When I 
> was using Windows I used Hyperterminal for this.  But I just got set up 
> to develop the firmware under linux instead.  Browsing through dselect I 
> couldn't find anything in the way of serial terminals for debian.
> 
> I'd be shocked if there wasn't something so I must be overlooking it.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Michael D. Crawford
> GoingWare Inc. - Expert Software Development and Consulting
> http://www.goingware.com/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
Here are some ideas:

Running: apt-cache search serial terminal
cyclades-serial-client - Network Serial port client software for
Cyclades terminal servers
gkermit - A serial and network communications package
gtkterm - A simple GTK+ serial port terminal
kpsk - PSK31 transmission mode Terminal for KDE3
minicom - friendly menu driven serial communication program
screen - a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation
ser2net - Allows network connections to serial ports
socat - multipurpose relay for bidirectional data transfer
termnetd - Terminal Server daemon
ckermit - a serial and network communications package
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Running: apt-cache search serial terminal
cyclades-serial-client - Network Serial port client software for
Cyclades terminal servers
gkermit - A serial and network communications package
gtkterm - A simple GTK+ serial port terminal
kpsk - PSK31 transmission mode Terminal for KDE3
minicom - friendly menu driven serial communication program
screen - a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation
ser2net - Allows network connections to serial ports
socat - multipurpose relay for bidirectional data transfer
termnetd - Terminal Server daemon
ckermit - a serial and network communications package

Of these, I know minicom works, I use it to send 'atdt' to my modem if
it wont hangup. Also, folks at my local wireless group use it to work
with embeded soekris boards.
-Kev

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Re: OT: 48 hrs and still no list mail

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 09:26:53PM -0400, Brian Pack wrote:
> My posts on the usenet mirror aren't making the web archive, So I'm
> chiming in here.
> 
> From what I've seen, it's multiple ISPs with the problem. I haven't
> received any list mail since Saturday night, when the usual load is
> hundreds per day. The usenet mirror is not showing it's usual load.
> 
> I haven't changed anything on my end. The feed just dried up.
> 
> There is no increased spam in my ISPs spam folder. The messages aren't
> even getting *to* the ISP.
> 
> Since the problem is not unique to me or my ISP, I would be inclined to
> look further upstream for the problem.

Hi Brian, and other emailess souls,
I'm not a network guru, but would a traceroute from your isp to the
debian mail host from all you guys possibly narrow down the point of the
problem?
=Kev


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Re: Serial terminal in testing?

[Wesley J Landaker]

On Monday 16 August 2004 19:34, Michael D. Crawford wrote:
> Is there a serial terminal program in testing?  Like what you'd use
> to log in to another host over a serial line?

I've always used minicom; I use it all the time to talk to FPGAs. =)

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Re: Serial terminal in testing?

[Jacob S.]

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:34:12 -0300
"Michael D. Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a serial terminal program in testing?  Like what you'd use to
> 
> log in to another host over a serial line?
> 
> Not something like xterm or gnome-terminal which is for login shells 
> over a network login.  I need something that communicates over serial 
> ports, and will let me set the baud rate and flow control.
> 
> I'm developing the firmware for an embedded device that sends
> debugging messages out a serial port, and into the serial port on my
> PC.  When I was using Windows I used Hyperterminal for this.  But I
> just got set up to develop the firmware under linux instead.  Browsing
> through dselect I couldn't find anything in the way of serial
> terminals for debian.
> 
> I'd be shocked if there wasn't something so I must be overlooking it.

Try "apt-cache show ckermit", "apt-cache show gkermit", and "apt-cache
show minicom". Just to name a few. I prefer minicom.

HTH,
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Re: Publishing program?

[Simon Kitching]

On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 11:59, stan wrote:
>  I remebet using a publishing layout application in Debian a while
>  ack, had a cutesey sort of name. But I can't rememner what it was.
> 
>  Can anyone jog my memory?

Scribus (http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/) appears to be a publishing
layout program.

I have also heard people say that the gnome "gLabels" program is
actually very powerful and useful for many more layout tasks than just
labels.

Cheers,

Simon


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Re: KDE Crashing - Sarge

[Yusuf]

Hi there.
I had the same problem.  The cause was that I had a half-finished
install of the Nvidia GPU drivers, and glx (the module Nvidia uses to
"talk 3D" to X) was conflicting with the OpenGL and dri modules, thus
not loading and making *all* of KDE's apps to cry on exit.  I don't have
what have KDE's apps to do with glx,thogh...
The cure was to remove the GLcore and dri modules from
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4, glx was already there, and to change my video
cards driver from nv to nvidia.  After an X restart, I had glx at last.
If you have the Nvidia GPU drivers onboard, but *don't* see the Nvidia
logo when X starts (and have not dehabilitated it yourself), then most
probably you have the same issue. Either remove glx from your
XF86Config-4, or finish the driver installation.
To know what is your problem, check your ~/.xsession-errors.  An excerpt
from mine:
KCrash: Application 'kcminit' crashing...
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Every crash (except 1 or 2 "normal" ones) had the GLX error.  And
indeed, running glxinfo would state, more wildly than clearly, that I
had not glx.  The next step was to check current X log:
$ grep -i glx /var/log/XFree86.0.log
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
(II) Loading extension GLX
Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)

So, indeeded, glx couln't load becouse an unresolved glx symbol in a dri
library.  That ringed some bells from the last time I installed the
driver completely by hand; that time I had to disable some modules from
X, included dri.  I was installing a 2.6 box, so I had compiled
nvidia-kernel-source by hand and installed the resulting package plus
nvidia-common and nvidia-glx, so I had chomped the nvidia-kernel's
readme, but not glx's one.  There are specified the needed modifications
 to XF86Config-4: remove GLcore and dri, add glx, change nv to nvidia.
The strange things are KDE apps crying for glx when closing, and
XF86Config-4 loading glx *and* GLcore/dri without my intervention.
Posible bugs?
Bruno Bellantuono escribiÃ:
Folks,
I had always used Debian testing perfectly, but on 27th July I made a
 dist-upgrade, as usually. Suddenly all KDE applications started
crashing just after they were closed. Applications like Knotes,
Kmixer, Korganizer, summarizing ALL KDE applications. Such a thing
had never happened to my system. All other applications (mozilla,
gaim, etc...) are working perfectly. I've also tried to upgrade to
unstable, but the crashes are still happening. Does anybody have an
idea to solve this problem?
Regards,
Bruno


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Re: Quick question: Choice of release

[Paul E Condon]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 12:33:49AM +0200, Anders Breindahl wrote:
> I and a friend are playing with the idea of convincing our gymnasium to 
> using Debian GNU/Linux as their main server OS. 
>  
> As it comes to this issue, which release we would want; stable, testing or 
> unstable? 
>  
> Making the choice, it would matter that the focus is on reliability. We 
> would want it to be absolutely reliable and secure. No security flaws would 
> be accepted. On the other hand, we wouldn't want it to be outdated, so any 
> performance-fixes are not included. What is the best compromise? 
>  
> Regards, skrewz a.k.a. Anders Breindahl. 
> 

For server, the safe, cautious advice is to use stable. But now, Sarge is
on the verge of becoming the newest version of stable. Depending on how fast
the people at gymnasium work, it might very well be the official stable by the
time that you have convinced them to use it.

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Re: Help requested: DMA, Seagate ST340014A, Kernel 2.4

[Richard Cobbe]

Lo, on Monday, August 16, Rthoreau did write:

> > Date: Yesterday 14:49:47
> 
> > Lo, on Sunday, August 15, Richard Cobbe did write:
> 
> >> The computer did come with a PCI IDE controller card (the "unknown mass
> >> storage controller" line above) that has another two controllers on it.
> >> I haven't yet tried switching controllers to see if that helps at all; I
> >> may attempt that later this afternoon.
> 
> > Well, that didn't work.  Moving it to the other controller should make
> > the hard drive visible as /dev/hde, but the kernel couldn't find the
> > root device, even when I specified `root=/dev/hde2' on the Lilo command
> > line.  The odd thing is, I've switched hard drives to this controller
> > before, back when I was having strange trouble with the previous drive
> > and trying to diagnose it.  I don't remember exactly what incantation I
> > had to mumble in order to get the kernel to find the partition, though,
> > so I can't repeat the process.
> 
> > Does anyone else have any suggestions?
> 
> > Richard

So I installed the latest 2.4 kernel image out of stable
(kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k7).  I'm not sure this is an improvement,
although we'll see.

> Your lspci listing should not contain any unknown devices, for example below 
> is my listing for my MP 2460.

Still getting unknown devices in lspci; the output is the same as
up-thread.

Further, when I ran
/sbin/hdparm -X66 -d1 -u1 -m16 -c3 /dev/hda
I got a slightly-updated version of a standard error/warning message:
ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x58, count=1
although things *appear* to be working fine for now.  I'd still be a lot
happier if I weren't getting that warning, though.

However, and I don't know if this is related, the kernel image only
supports a single processor; stable doesn't appear to have an
SMP-enabled kernel prebuilt.  As soon as the soruce installs, I'm going
to rebuild it for SMP without making any other changes, just to see what
happens.

So, in short, better but not good.

Richard


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Dead Gnome MIME settings

[Alex Malinovich]

My Gnome MIME settings appear to have suddenly died. If I go into
Applications -> Desktop Preferences -> Advanced -> File types and
programs the only category I see is Internet Services. When I try to do
things on the desktop, I get "no action associated with" errors. I've
tried reinstalling libgnomevfs2-0 as well as gnome-mime-data to no
avail. Looking in ~/.xsession-errors after launching 'File types and
programs' I see the following: 

(gnome-file-types-properties:3273): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Deprecated
function.  User modifications to the MIME database are no longer
supported.

Any ideas how to troubleshoot this further?

A probably related item of note here is that I recently had to restore
my /etc and /home directories from a backup. I did a "cp -a" so
permissions, etc, should all have been preserved, but it's possible that
something got fouled up at some point. Unfortunately, aside from the
things I mentioned above, I don't know what else to troubleshoot. (As
much as I love Gnome some of the more obscure files and settings that it
uses make me think back to my days of suffering in Windows.)

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Re: kde applications signal 11

[Yusuf]

Hi there.
I had the same problem.  The cause was that I had a half-finished 
install of the Nvidia GPU drivers, and glx (the module Nvidia uses to 
"talk 3D" to X) was conflicting with the OpenGL and dri modules, thus 
not loading and making *all* of KDE's apps to cry on exit.  I don't have 
what have KDE's apps to do with glx,thogh...

The cure was to remove the GLcore and dri modules from 
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4, glx was already there, and to change my vide 
cards driver from nv to nvidia.  After an X restart, I had glx at last.

If you have the Nvidia GPU drivers onboard, but *don't* see the Nvidia 
logo when X starts (and have not dehabilitated it yourself), then most 
probably you have the same issue. Either remove glx from your 
XF86Config-4, or finish the driver installation.

To know what is your problem, check your ~/.xsession-errors.  An excerpt 
from mine:

KCrash: Application 'kcminit' crashing...
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Every crash (except 1 or 2 "normal" ones) had the GLX error.  And 
indeed, running glxinfo would state, more wildly than clearly, that I 
had not glx.  The next step was to check current X log:

> $ grep -i glx /var/log/XFree86.0.log
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
(II) Loading extension GLX
Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)

So, indeeded, glx couln't load becouse an unresolved glx symbol in a dri 
library.  That ringed some bells from the last time I installed the 
driver completely by hand; that time I had to disable some modules from 
X, included dri.  I was installing a 2.6 box, so I had compiled 
nvidia-kernel-source by  hand and installed the resulting package plus 
nvidia-common and nvidia-glx, so I had chomped the nvidia-kernel's 
readme, but not glx's one.  There are specified the needed modifications 
 to XF86Config-4: remove GLcore and dri, add glx, change nv to nvidia.

The strange things are KDE apps crying for glx when closing, and 
XF86Config-4 loading glx *and* GLcore/dri without my intervention. 
Posible bugs?

Maurice Leutenegger escribiÃ:
Hi,
I'm trying to determine if I have a bug and where I should report it to.
I'm running debian testing, with kde as my desktop.
Whenever I close an application which is from kde, I get this error
message:
"The application unknown (konsole) crashed and caused the signal 11
(SIGSEGV)."
Of course, this message was generated by closing konsole, but closing just
about any application from kde causes an error. The error window says it
can do a backtrace, but when I try it, it says the backtrace is useless.
Processes which are not from kde packages do not cause this error 
> message, for example synaptic.
thanks,
Maurice


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Serial terminal in testing?

[Michael D. Crawford]

Is there a serial terminal program in testing?  Like what you'd use to 
log in to another host over a serial line?

Not something like xterm or gnome-terminal which is for login shells 
over a network login.  I need something that communicates over serial 
ports, and will let me set the baud rate and flow control.

I'm developing the firmware for an embedded device that sends debugging 
messages out a serial port, and into the serial port on my PC.  When I 
was using Windows I used Hyperterminal for this.  But I just got set up 
to develop the firmware under linux instead.  Browsing through dselect I 
couldn't find anything in the way of serial terminals for debian.

I'd be shocked if there wasn't something so I must be overlooking it.
Thanks!
Michael D. Crawford
GoingWare Inc. - Expert Software Development and Consulting
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OT: 48 hrs and still no list mail

[Brian Pack]

My posts on the usenet mirror aren't making the web archive, So I'm
chiming in here.

From what I've seen, it's multiple ISPs with the problem. I haven't
received any list mail since Saturday night, when the usual load is
hundreds per day. The usenet mirror is not showing it's usual load.

I haven't changed anything on my end. The feed just dried up.

There is no increased spam in my ISPs spam folder. The messages aren't
even getting *to* the ISP.

Since the problem is not unique to me or my ISP, I would be inclined to
look further upstream for the problem.





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Re: chkrootkit...lkm trojan?... only from gnome

[Gregory Pierce]

I ran "chkrootkit -x lkm" and I got the following output:

debian-dell:/home/gpierce# chkrootkit -x lkm
ROOTDIR is `/'
###
### Output of: ./chkproc -v -v
###
PID 15705: not in readdir output
PID 15705: not in ps output
CWD 15705: /home/gpierce
EXE 15705: /usr/bin/nautilus
PID 15710: not in readdir output
PID 15710: not in ps output
CWD 15710: /home/gpierce
EXE 15710: /usr/lib/gnome-vfs2/gnome-vfs-daemon
PID 15752: not in readdir output
PID 15752: not in ps output
CWD 15752: /home/gpierce
EXE 15752: /usr/bin/nautilus
PID 15753: not in readdir output
PID 15753: not in ps output
CWD 15753: /home/gpierce
EXE 15753: /usr/bin/nautilus
PID 15754: not in readdir output
PID 15754: not in ps output
CWD 15754: /home/gpierce
EXE 15754: /usr/bin/nautilus
PID 15755: not in readdir output
PID 15755: not in ps output
CWD 15755: /home/gpierce
EXE 15755: /usr/bin/nautilus
PID 15756: not in readdir output
PID 15756: not in ps output
CWD 15756: /home/gpierce
EXE 15756: /usr/bin/nautilus
PID 15757: not in readdir output
PID 15757: not in ps output
CWD 15757: /home/gpierce
EXE 15757: /usr/bin/nautilus
PID 15758: not in readdir output
PID 15758: not in ps output
CWD 15758: /home/gpierce
EXE 15758: /usr/bin/nautilus
PID 15759: not in readdir output
PID 15759: not in ps output
CWD 15759: /home/gpierce
EXE 15759: /usr/bin/nautilus
PID 15760: not in readdir output
PID 15760: not in ps output
CWD 15760: /home/gpierce
EXE 15760: /usr/bin/nautilus
PID 15765: not in readdir output
PID 15765: not in ps output
CWD 15765: /home/gpierce
EXE 15765: /usr/lib/gnome-applets/gweather-applet-2
PID 15766: not in readdir output
PID 15766: not in ps output
CWD 15766: /home/gpierce
EXE 15766: /usr/lib/gnome-applets/gweather-applet-2
PID 17076: not in readdir output
PID 17076: not in ps output
CWD 17076: /home/gpierce
EXE 17076: /usr/lib/gnome-applets/gweather-applet-2
PID 17866: not in readdir output
PID 17866: not in ps output
CWD 17866: /home/gpierce
EXE 17866: /usr/bin/evolution-1.4
PID 17867: not in readdir output
PID 17867: not in ps output
CWD 17867: /home/gpierce
EXE 17867: /usr/bin/evolution-1.4
PID 17868: not in readdir output
PID 17868: not in ps output
CWD 17868: /home/gpierce
EXE 17868: /usr/bin/evolution-1.4
PID 17869: not in readdir output
PID 17869: not in ps output
CWD 17869: /home/gpierce
EXE 17869: /usr/bin/evolution-1.4
PID 17870: not in readdir output
PID 17870: not in ps output
CWD 17870: /home/gpierce
EXE 17870: /usr/bin/evolution-1.4
PID 17922: not in readdir output
PID 17922: not in ps output
CWD 17922: /home/gpierce
EXE 17922: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin
PID 17924: not in readdir output
PID 17924: not in ps output
CWD 17924: /home/gpierce
EXE 17924: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin
PID 17927: not in readdir output
PID 17927: not in ps output
CWD 17927: /home/gpierce
EXE 17927: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin
PID 17928: not in readdir output
PID 17928: not in ps output
CWD 17928: /home/gpierce
EXE 17928: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin
PID 17933: not in readdir output
PID 17933: not in ps output
CWD 17933: /home/gpierce
EXE 17933: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
PID 17936: not in readdir output
PID 17936: not in ps output
CWD 17936: /home/gpierce
EXE 17936: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin
You have25 process hidden for readdir command
You have25 process hidden for ps command


It all looks benign to me but why would so processes be running and
hidden  to ps?

Greg


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chkrootkit...lkm trojan?... only from gnome

[Gregory Pierce]

Hello all,

In running chkrootkit (version 0.43) tonight I got the following
warning:

Checking `lkm'... You have16 process hidden for readdir command
You have16 process hidden for ps command
Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed

But when I run chkrootkit from KDE it comes up clean.  Can I really be
compromised and chkrootkit detect a trojan from within gnome but not
when I am running from KDE?

I am not at all sure what to do from here.  Should I just start from
scratch and re-install everything?


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Re: Sarge-SoundCard

[Kent West]

Roger Creasy wrote:
I am a newbie so, please be patient and complete :).
I went though the installation of Sarge and everything works fine, 
except my WiFi card (I am addressing this one with NDISWrapper, 
questions to follow... probably) and my sound card. Can anyone offer 
any insight into getting my sound card set up?
 

Run "lspci" to see what chipset you're using (assuming a PCI device). 
Then you'll  need to make sure the correct module is installed for that 
chipset. Sometimes you can guess by the chipset's name; sometimes you'll 
need to google for it.

You can insert the module via "modconf" or "modprove" + adding the 
module(s) to /etc/modules.

You'll also need to be a member of the audio group ("adduser roger 
audio" followed by;; logout/login).

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Re: Quick question: Choice of release

[Simon Kitching]

On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 10:33, Anders Breindahl wrote:
> I and a friend are playing with the idea of convincing our gymnasium to 
> using Debian GNU/Linux as their main server OS. 
>  
> As it comes to this issue, which release we would want; stable, testing or 
> unstable? 
>  
> Making the choice, it would matter that the focus is on reliability. We 
> would want it to be absolutely reliable and secure. No security flaws would 
> be accepted. On the other hand, we wouldn't want it to be outdated, so any 
> performance-fixes are not included. What is the best compromise? 

Hi,

I would recommend waiting until the next Debian release. This is
currently scheduled to happen on Sept 19th, though deadlines are rather
flexible in Debian. You can then go with that "stable" release.

If you want to get started now, you can install "Sarge". Sarge is
currently in testing. Sarge will become "stable" at the september
release date. It's currently pretty good, perfectly fine for doing the
setup work. And after the release date, a simple "apt-get dist-upgrade"
command will ensure everything gets upgraded to the official release
versions.

See "http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer"; for Sarge
installation info.

You *could* install the current stable version, then after the next
release upgrade to the new stable version. But I wouldn't recommend it,
because the upgrade will want to install *huge* amounts of updates. And
in addition, the new installer is much easier to use than the old one.

Regards,

Simon


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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox

[Greg Folkert]

On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 17:37 -0400, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> What about those of us who do NOT use gnome?  Any ideas for the rest of  
> us?  I use fvwm2.

I see that Thunderbird only requires libgtk2.0-0 not all of gnome.
Appears to be the same for Firefox.

From rom "apt-cache show mozilla-thunderbird":
Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.6.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libfontconfig1
(>= 2.2.1), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3),
libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.4.1), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.4), libpango1.0-0 (>=
1.4.0), libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6
| xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxp6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0),
libxrender1, libxt6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1)


From rom "apt-cache show mozilla-firefox":
Depends: fontconfig, psmisc, debianutils (>= 1.16), xvfb, libatk1.0-0
(>= 1.6.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.2.1),
libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libglib2.0-0 (>=
2.4.1), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.4), libidl0, libjpeg62, libpango1.0-0 (>=
1.4.1), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.5.0-4), libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), libx11-6 |
xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxft2 (>> 2.1.1),
libxp6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxrender1, libxt6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0),
zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1)
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Re: Publishing program?

[Rick Pasotto]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 07:59:12PM -0400, stan wrote:
>  I remebet using a publishing layout application in Debian a while
>  ack, had a cutesey sort of name. But I can't rememner what it was.
> 
>  Can anyone jog my memory?

Scribus?

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chkrootkit...lkm trojan?... only from gnome

[Gregory Pierce]

Hello all,

In running chkrootkit (version 0.43) tonight I got the following
warning:

Checking `lkm'... You have16 process hidden for readdir command
You have16 process hidden for ps command
Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed

But when I run chkrootkit from KDE it comes up clean.  Can I really be
compromised and chkrootkit detect a trojan from within gnome but not
when I am running from KDE?

I am not at all sure what to do from here.  Should I just start from
scratch and re-install everything?


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Re: Publishing program?

[Greg Folkert]

On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 19:59 -0400, stan wrote:
>  I remebet using a publishing layout application in Debian a while
>  ack, had a cutesey sort of name. But I can't rememner what it was.
> 
>  Can anyone jog my memory?
Scribus?
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problems mounting nfs with pcmcia

[John L Fjellstad]

I'm setting up a Debian Linux system at a friend's house.  He has Debian
Woody (with backports) on the server, and Debian Sarge on the client.

The client has a pcmcia card for networking.  I'm trying to set up so
that the nfs shares are mounted automatically when he boots up, but it
doesn't happen.

I put this in his fstab:
192.168.1.1:/data/share /net/share nfsrsize=8192,wsize=8192,_netdev   0 0

But the system won't mount it at boot up (no problem mounting it manually
after logging in as a user, using mount -a -t nfs).

I then figured it might be something with being pcmcia, so I added the
mount point to /etc/pcmcia/network.opts MOUNTS="/net/share".  That
didn't work either.

I checked the logs and it seems the problem is, the system in both cases
tries to mount the nfs filesystems before the network is fully up.

I tried to move the mountnfs.sh /etc/init.d script to a much later stage
(from S45 to S70), but it didn't help.  Does anyone have any idea what I
can do next?  I have nfs filesystems mounted on my own system without
problems, so I'm not sure what his problem is.

We both run the same software both places (dhcp3 on server and client).

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Publishing program?

[stan]

 I remebet using a publishing layout application in Debian a while
 ack, had a cutesey sort of name. But I can't rememner what it was.

 Can anyone jog my memory?

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Need help with Qmail

[Colin Theseira]

Hello,
I was wondering if it possible to 
configure Qmail so it only accepts e-mails from a specific IP addresses? We use 
a spam service called Postini and our MX record now points to the Postini mail servers. However, lately we noticed some e-mails are 
being forwarded directly to our Qmail 
server thus bypassing our spam service. I called the Postini support line and 
they said Port 25 on my Qmail server is open.
 
Can you help me by 
telling me where I can find documentation to configure our Qmail server so it 
will only accept inbound e-mails from the Postini server? Any help you can offer will be 
greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks.Regards, 
Colin

Re: Quick question: Choice of release

[Greg Madden]

On Monday 16 August 2004 02:33 pm, Anders Breindahl wrote:
> I and a friend are playing with the idea of convincing our gymnasium
> to using Debian GNU/Linux as their main server OS.
>
> As it comes to this issue, which release we would want; stable,
> testing or unstable?
>
> Making the choice, it would matter that the focus is on reliability.
> We would want it to be absolutely reliable and secure. No security
> flaws would be accepted. On the other hand, we wouldn't want it to be
> outdated, so any performance-fixes are not included. What is the best
> compromise?
>
> Regards, skrewz a.k.a. Anders Breindahl.

I think Sarge is up to the task, set up your sources.list for Sarge not 
testing. There are security updates for Sarge now. This is a bit of a 
balance between utterly reliable (not a stable release yet) but current 
versions of software.

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Re: unresolved kernel symbols

[Tong]

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:05:58 -0700, Tong Sun wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> I am experiencing unresolved kernel symbol problem
> when compiling my pctel modem driver. 
> 
> The compilation and installation was ok. When trying
> to load the module, I get:
> 
> ... unresolved kernel symbols

> How can I fix it. Thanks

Problem solved. Just for the archive, Installing kernel-headers is not
enough, I need to install kernel-source and "prepare the kernel source".

Ref:

http://svn.drbd.org/drbd/tags/drbd-0.6.12/INSTALL
http://docs.diamondsystems.com/dscud/manual_Instructions_for_Linux.html
http://www.fnal.gov/projects/ckm/ckm_cluster/sysadmin/#kernel



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Re: Trying again

[Ralph Katz]

On 08/16/04 18:51, Bradley Pursley wrote:
I will ask this again (for the 3rd time) and then am going to drop it 
assuming that no one knows the answer.  Does anyone know what has happened 
to all of the older versions like Potato or Slink, previous to Woody, of 
Debian?  The archive.debian.org site isn't responding and the 
debain-archive folder on the ftp.debian.org site no longer exists.  I've 
done a check on all of the mirrors and they don't seem to exist anywhere.  
I need to get a copy of one of these older versions is why I am asking.

Bradley
Bradley,
You posted to the newsgroup linux.debian.user, but that is a 
receive-only gateway from the mail list.  So only those of us who read 
the list as a newsgroup will see your posts!  The majority of readers 
who subscribe to the email list will never see your post unless it's 
quoted in a reply like this one that is posted to the mail list.

Please post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or subscribe for wider 
distribution and greater likelihood your questions will be answered.

I think your answer can be found as follows:
www.debian.org  -->  click "available versions of Debian" link;
http://www.debian.org/releases/  -->  click on potato or slink link.
Regards.
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Re: 'umask' and mounting of vfat filesystem.

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Daniel M. (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Another question: my shell process's file creation mask is '0022',
> which means that if 'umask' option is not used in 'mount' command
> when mounting vfat filesystem, the default permissions would be
> '-rwxr-xr-x'. But the actual permissions I get are: '-rwxr--r--'
> (the files mentioned above once again get different permissions:
> '-r-xr--r--'). Why is that so?

Recent versions of mount use a fixed umask and ignore the current umask.
I think it was done to create /etc/mtab with safer permissions, but has
side effects. Check the bug database for more info.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: Systemimager 3.0.1-11 on Sarge.

[Mark Ferlatte]

Michael Bellears said on Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 09:29:38AM +1000:
> I've been testing Systemimager 3.0.1-11 - I have created an autoinstall
> disk, booted the test client with this disk, and I am getting a
> segmentation fault during the partitioning section of the autoinstall
> process:
> 
> Partitioning /dev/sda ...
> Old partition table for /dev/sda:
> Segmantation fault
> Parted -s -- /dev/sda mklabel msdos || shellout
> Segmentation fault
> 
> Googling on the above has revealed a couple of others experiencing
> similar problems, but no solution.
> 
> Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

You're probably better off asking on the systemimager support list; see
http://www.systemimager.org/support/.

However, you should provide more details when you ask for help there; at least,
the hardware you're trying to install onto (including type of SCSI card, and
drives.

You also may want to try upgrading to systemimager 3.2 from the systemimager
site: they have high quality debs.

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Re: getting too many the document contains no data

[Rus Gre]

 Type in "about:config" without the quotes within 
the browser address bar and look for a line that starts with 
"browser.xul.error". Double click the line to change it from "false" to "true" 
and the problem will go away. 

Re: failed debain install

[Jacob S.]

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:13:18 -0500
Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Interestingly the machine will boot just fine into recovery mode..  If
> I boot into recovery mode, then type
> 
> 'init 3'
> 
> the machine reboots shortly their after.  Anyone using a Supermicro
> box run into this problem or have any luck getting around this?

There have been quite a few reports of this lately. Normally doing a
"rmmod i810-tco" will fix it. Then adding the same module to the
blacklist in the hotplug config files keeps it fixed.

HTH,
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Re: 'umask' and mounting of vfat filesystem.

[Pigeon]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 11:43:09PM -0700, Daniel M. wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> According to the man page for 'mount', 'umask=value' is used as follows:
> 
> 
> "umask=value
>   Set  the  umask  (the  bitmask  of  the permissions that are not
> present). The default is the umask of the current process.   The
> value is given in octal."
> 
> But somehow I don't succeed in getting that behavior. For example,
> if I set 'umask=', I am supposed to get '-rwxrwxrwx' permissions.
> But some files/directories have '-r-xr-xr-x' permissions (for example,
> in the root directory of vfat's filesystem those files are: msdos.sys, 
> ntdetect.com, ntldr, io.sys, 'Program Files'. There are other (non-system)
> files, deeper in the directory structure, which also get those incorrect 
> permissions). 

VFAT doesn't support unix-style file permissions. What you're seeing
is a unix-style system trying to do the best it can on a crappy
filesystem. It won't get any better than what you've got.

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Re: bible-kjv_4.15 make & installation errors in gentoo linux

[Pigeon]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 09:50:59AM -0700, Ray Foster wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The readme.linux instructions are (after unpacking) to make which gives 
> these errors:
> /lib/libreadline.so: undefined reference to tgetnum, tgoto, tgetflag, 
> BC, tputs, PC, tgetent, UP, tgetstr and it exits with error 1 and error2.
> When I "make install" I get three errors:
> cp cannot stat bible
> chown, chgrp, chmod - "cannot access /usr/bin/bible"
> install error 1.
> 
> The readme file tells at the bottom that the writer had to change some 
> destinations in the Makefile to get it to work.  What do you change to 
> what?  I have looked at the Makefile and am no wiser for the look.

What are you trying to do? Install a source package from Debian on
Gentoo?

The make install error is because the make didn't work. The make
probably didn't work because you have the wrong versions of libraries
installed compared to what the package expects. The correct versions
should be in the .dsc file if not elsewhere in the documentation,
listed as Build-Depends.

I presume you've just untarred the tarball from the Debian source
package rather than trying to apply Debian patches, which latter is
probably going to break on a non-Debian system.

Don't forget that:
1) Abbreviated/summarised/partial error messages are not very useful
2) This is a Debian list, we don't in general know about
Gentoo-specific stuff.

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Systemimager 3.0.1-11 on Sarge.

[Michael Bellears]

I've been testing Systemimager 3.0.1-11 - I have created an autoinstall
disk, booted the test client with this disk, and I am getting a
segmentation fault during the partitioning section of the autoinstall
process:

Partitioning /dev/sda ...
Old partition table for /dev/sda:
Segmantation fault
Parted -s -- /dev/sda mklabel msdos || shellout
Segmentation fault

Googling on the above has revealed a couple of others experiencing
similar problems, but no solution.

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Regards,
MB

Re: OT:Hardly any messages getthing through

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
> I can only read replies to my previous post via the web site
> 
> I am not receiving anything - but from the web site ...
> From: Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 08:50:06AM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
> > Is there a load of mail held in a queue somewhere, or is there a problem 
> with 
> > my registration?
> > 
> > For the past two days, I have had about 3 messages from this list.  Looking 
> at 
> > the archive, there has been more than that - but not a significant amount 
> and 
> > certainly not the normal volumes.
> > 
> > -- 
> Hi Alan,
> did you add any mail filtering or did you modify any recipies?
> -Kev
> 
> 
> Answer: NO - nothing is reaching the chandlerfamily.org.uk mail server.  Not 
> even requests that might be being rejected.
> 
> I even tried re-subscribing to the list.
> 
> 
> The post from Paul Scott arrived directly (because he CC mailed me), but I 
> didn't receive back my original post nor his post coming via the list
> 
> Strange!
> 
Hi Alan,
It seems non-DU replays get to you like Mr. Scotts. And you can read DU
from non-email means like a web browser. So, somehow mail from the DU
mail server is getting dropped/lost on its way back to you. Perhaps you
may contact your ISP and see if there is anything they can determine.
Maybe they upgraded something there. Also, I have had 2 problems within the
last 2 years: need to change pgp mime signature to pgp inline signature
to appease my LUG's mailmail setup
and needed to add a return-path header so debian would allow my email.
-Kev
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failed debain install

[Roger]

I downloaded the netinstall cd off this url
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status
The machine its being installed on is a Supermicro p4sca machine.  The 
install went smoothly enough but after that things get complicated.  
After booting up I get asked my standard post confiurations questions.  
As I answer then - the machine reboots(feels almost like a power cycle - 
screen goes black, you hear a beep)..  Thinking this was a fluke I 
rebooted - began entering my info, timezone, user info - etc..  And the 
machine reboots agian.  The third time I just let it reboot and did 
nothing.  Still the machine reboots after about 20 to 30 seconds.

I re-burned the cd, re-installed - deleteing the partition table- still 
same result - a spontanious reboot during post install setup..  This 
machine had been a perfectly happy RH9 box before but decided to switch 
to Sarge...

After looking around I found this bug report
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=248442
After upgrading the bios and dinkering w/ some bios settings - relating 
to RAID and SATA I re-installed.  Same problem  I tried combine 
mode, sata only, enhanced mode no dice.

I've also tried the net install image listed here
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20040816/
After downloading this image the machine doesn't even recognise the cd 
as a bootable cd.  Toss in a RH9 or Fedora cd and away it goes.

Interestingly the machine will boot just fine into recovery mode..  If I 
boot into recovery mode, then type

'init 3'
the machine reboots shortly their after.  Anyone using a Supermicro box 
run into this problem or have any luck getting around this?

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Re: Open Exchange Experts

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 04:33:46PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> Dear Debian-Team,
> 
> I'm looking for experts to set-up / maintain Open Exchange Functionalities
> based on a VServer.
> 
>  
> 
> How can I find such experts ?
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Michael Schmitz
> 
> _
> NOVATEC SYSTEMS LTD
> Dipl. Ing.  Michael Schmitz, 
> General Manager
> 
>   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Mr. Schmitz,
The main debian web site has resources related this this request. Here
are a few I am aware of:
a debian-jobs mailing list and a consultants list on the website.
-Kev
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Quick question: Choice of release

[Anders Breindahl]

I and a friend are playing with the idea of convincing our gymnasium to 
using Debian GNU/Linux as their main server OS. 
 
As it comes to this issue, which release we would want; stable, testing or 
unstable? 
 
Making the choice, it would matter that the focus is on reliability. We 
would want it to be absolutely reliable and secure. No security flaws would 
be accepted. On the other hand, we wouldn't want it to be outdated, so any 
performance-fixes are not included. What is the best compromise? 
 
Regards, skrewz a.k.a. Anders Breindahl. 


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Re: Sarge-SoundCard

[Paul E Condon]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 01:39:49PM -0700, Roger Creasy wrote:
> I am a newbie so, please be patient and complete :).
> I went though the installation of Sarge and everything works fine, except my WiFi 
> card (I am addressing this one with NDISWrapper, questions to follow... probably) 
> and my sound card. Can anyone offer any insight into getting my sound card set up? 
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Roger
> 

During the install of Sarge, one of the things that you were asked concerned a wrapper 
for /dev/dsp .
The default is, I think, "auto". On my system, I need "esddsp". Try reconfiguring 
mozilla, i.e.:

dpkg-reconfigure mozilla

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Re: Sarge-SoundCard

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> Can anyone offer any insight into getting my sound card set up?

Have you looked at the HOWTOs?
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Problem with noflushd in Sarge

[Matthew T. Atkinson]

'ello,

I'm pretty sure that noflushd is not spinning down /dev/hdd after 5 mins
(which is how I have it set up).  Unfortunately, no messages from it are
appearing in syslog (they used to in Woody) so I am unable to tell
exactly what isn't working.

Has anyone else had these problems?  Is there a known bug and/or
workaround?

Thanks in advance for any info you may be able to provide...

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Re: Help using Apt-Get

[Paul E Condon]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 03:19:32PM -0400, David Bokan wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I am new to Debian (three or so days now)
> I have a question, I'm using the Woody release of Debian (3.0) and I want to
> get KDE3 (and some other recent packages) but in order to do that I have to
> get packages from the testing release, however, I am unsure of how to do
> this. I googled it and found something about Pinning and followed the
> instructions (created a preferences file and put some stuff in there) and it
> doesn't work. Here's the entry I put in the sources file (that's probably
> the problem):
> 
> deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ testing main 
> 
> However, when I run 'apt-get update' here's the result:
> 
> Fetched 3053kB in 18s (164kB/s)
> Reading Package Lists... Error!
> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
> E: Error occurred whie processing python-egenix-mxstack (NewVersion1)
> E: Problem with MergeList
> /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.yorku.ca_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_pac
> kages
> E: Package lists or status fie could not be parsed or opened
> 
> I have no idea what any of that means...speaking of which, if someone
> wouldn't mind explaining the format of the sources.list file (the man page
> is unclear to me) I would be greatly appreciative. 
> 
> Thank You in Advance,
> David Bokan

It is not possible for a real* user to run packages from Sarge(testing) on a 
Potato(stable) system. This is not always true, but at this moment in time
Sarge uses a library which is incompatible with most packages in Potato. To 
get KDE3 you will have to migrate to Sarge, and then install KDE. 

I noticed the memory overflow a long time ago when I first decided to look
into Sarge myself. I never found out how to overcome it, and will be watching
with interest to see how one deals with it. 

To convert to Sarge:
1. Edit your current sources.list which mentions stable or Potato is several
places. Change all of these to Sarge.

2. run 
apt-get update
This should not overflow, as you are not retaining package lists for Potato.

3. run
apt-get dist-upgrade
This will take a while as almost all the base packages must be upgraded.

I expect that you will get other responses to you post. 
I suggest that you not try this until you have read all of them carefully.
Welcome to Debian, the distribution where social adgenda is a good thing. 

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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox

[Marc Shapiro]

What about those of us who do NOT use gnome?  Any ideas for the rest of  
us?  I use fvwm2.

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Re: Filesystem recovery with ReiserFS

[Marc Wilson]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 12:47:10AM -0500, Will Trillich wrote:
> - is there significant reason to shun reiserfs?
> - what's the optimal/recommended recovery method?

Not from me, huh?  Best reason to shun it is that when the filesystem
inevitably goes bad (*all* do, not just reiser), the recovery tools are
non-existent.

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Re: On downloading Debian ISOs

[Simon Kitching]

On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 20:59, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Have been wanting to try out Debian for so long, but never managed to
> get my hands on it. Finally I land up at this client site where we have
> a good net access, and so am thinking of downloading the ISOs to give
> them a shot on my home machine. 

Hi Rakesh,

Just as a side-note, I hope you didn't download the "Woody" (Debian 3.0)
files. The new release is due out *very* soon, and is a major
improvement over the previous version. Unless you are are intending to
set up a production server, you will probably be best off downloading
the "testing" version, ie what will become the stable version shortly.
In particular, the installation process is vastly improved.

The current "testing" version is called "Sarge", and will probably be
released as Debian 3.1, though I think it deserves to be Debian 4.0.

> Unfortunately the proxy and firewalls here do not allow me to use jigdo

As noted earlier, Jigdo just uses HTTP, so it should work for you.

Regards,

Simon


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Re: Sarge RAID install

[Paul Gear]

Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> ...
>>>Newbie installing latest Sarge would like to configure RAID 1.  Would
>>>someone please show me what the partition table should look like for the
>>>simple case of / and swap partitions, configured with RAID 1?  Thanks!  -
>>
>>It's not supported on / or /boot - see the thread "Rant about installer
>>features" for more discussion and some links.
> 
> 
> Oh but it is. Just do a normal install, then convert it to RAID1-
> see http://www.miquels.cistron.nl/raid/

I meant it's not supported *on install*, which is what the OP asked about.
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'umask' and mounting of vfat filesystem.

[Daniel M .]

Hello everybody,

According to the man page for 'mount', 'umask=value' is used as follows:


"umask=value
  Set  the  umask  (the  bitmask  of  the permissions that are not
  present). The default is the umask of the current process.   The
  value is given in octal."

But somehow I don't succeed in getting that behavior. For example,
if I set 'umask=', I am supposed to get '-rwxrwxrwx' permissions.
But some files/directories have '-r-xr-xr-x' permissions (for example,
in the root directory of vfat's filesystem those files are: msdos.sys, 
ntdetect.com, ntldr, io.sys, 'Program Files'. There are other (non-system)
files, deeper in the directory structure, which also get those incorrect 
permissions). 

Here is a list of umask's values and permissions those files are actually
getting ('correct' means that they are getting the same permissions as all
the other files):

umask=: -r-xr-xr-x
umask=0111: -r--r--r--
umask=0222: correct
umask=0333: correct
umask=0444: ---x--x--x
umask=0555: --
umask=0666: correct
umask=0777: correct

Why those (and many other) files are different and don't get the correct
permissions specified by 'umask' option?


Another question: my shell process's file creation mask is '0022', 
which means that if 'umask' option is not used in 'mount' command 
when mounting vfat filesystem, the default permissions would be
'-rwxr-xr-x'. But the actual permissions I get are: '-rwxr--r--'
(the files mentioned above once again get different permissions:
'-r-xr--r--'). Why is that so?

Daniel.



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Re: Alsa mixer no longer retains its settings

[Curt Howland]

I noticed the same thing, since yesterday. Unfortunately, my ISP 
blocks port 25 outbound (to thwart spammers) and I cannot utilize 
reportbug. I hope you did.

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Re: extended vga

[GrivIN]

> Incoming from Paul Maser:
> > With lilo the command vga=extended in lilo.conf would get you an
> > svga prompt screen.
> > How do you do this with grub?
>
> kernel  /vmlinuz-2.4.18-1-686 root=/dev/hda9 ro hdc=scsi vga=ask acpi=off
> .^^^
...or "vga=0x318" (1024x768) - not good? Try "vga=0x317", "vga=0x316"... (on
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Re: Help using Apt-Get

[Brian Nelson]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 03:19:32PM -0400, David Bokan wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I am new to Debian (three or so days now) I have a question, I'm using
> the Woody release of Debian (3.0) and I want to get KDE3 (and some
> other recent packages) but in order to do that I have to get packages
> from the testing release, however, I am unsure of how to do this. 

Upgrade to sarge (testing), if that's what you want.

> I googled it and found something about Pinning and followed the
> instructions (created a preferences file and put some stuff in there)
> and it doesn't work.  

Pinning is more or less useless.  You should *never* use it unless you
really know what you're doing.

> Here's the entry I put in the sources file
> (that's probably the problem):
> 
> deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ testing main
> 
> However, when I run 'apt-get update' here's the result:
> 
> Fetched 3053kB in 18s (164kB/s) Reading Package Lists... Error!  E:
> Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occurred whie processing
> python-egenix-mxstack (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList
> /var/lib/apt/lists/
> debian.yorku.ca_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_packages E:
> Package lists or status fie could not be parsed or opened

That's a VFAQ:
http://www.google.com/search?q=mmap%20ran%20out%20of%20room%20apt-get

> I have no idea what any of that means...speaking of which, if someone
> wouldn't mind explaining the format of the sources.list file (the man
> page is unclear to me) I would be greatly appreciative.

man sources.list

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Re: Error: Please disable GnuPG Agent from KGpg settings, or fix the agent.

[Kirk Strauser]

On Monday 16 August 2004 12:06, Lance W. Haverkamp wrote:

> The use of GnuPG Agent is enabled in GnuPG's configuration file
> (/home/lance/.gnupg/gpg.conf). However, the agent doesn't seem to run.
> This could result in problems with signing/decryption. Please disable
> GnuPG Agent from KGpg settings, or fix the agent.   

In short, /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession from the "kdm" package is a copy of the 
official version from KDE, and not the Debian-customized version that 
you're used to using.  You can manually revert it to the correct contents:

#! /bin/sh
# Xsession - run as user

# invoke global X session script
. /etc/X11/Xsession

and log back in to get the environment you're used to having.
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[Roger Creasy]

I am a newbie so, please be patient and complete :).
I went though the installation of Sarge and everything works fine, except my WiFi card (I am addressing this one with NDISWrapper, questions to follow... probably) and my sound card. Can anyone offer any insight into getting my sound card set up? 
 
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Re: Kernel panic (customizing kernel 2.6.6) [Solved]

[Marvin Gerardo Aguero Salazar]

Thanks Carl (and Greg)

mkinitrd was the right solution. I was not aware of that command.

I just rebooted my machine with the kernel compiled by myself.

I love days when I learn something new.

Thanks again. I really do appreciated it.

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Asunto: Re: Kernel panic (customizing kernel 2.6.6)

> On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 03:13:39PM -0600, Marvin Gerardo Aguero 
> Salazar wrote:
> 
> > My theory is that the problem relies in the file called
> > initrd.img-2.6.6-1-386. Since the make process didn't create a
> > initrd.img-2.6.6 I kept the same one.
> 
> You might look at mkinitrd.  You might also wonder (as I do) why 
> running it
> isn't automatic.  Should I (we) put in a bug report?
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Re: Kernel rebuild problems

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
wrote:

> I installed sarge on my Averatec 3220 (AMD-2000 CPU, 256MB) using the
> latest version of the installer (this would be about six weeks ago).
> 
> Everything is fine, except the wireless (builtin Broadcom, needing
> ndiswrapper).
> 
> Now, I've also installed kernel-2.6.7-k7 package and the 2.6.7
> source. The kernel is fine and works a treat, but
> 
> I am unable to build my own kernel which will boot. (I've been
> recompiling kernels since about 1995 so...)
> 
> As far as I can tell, the problem is that the new kernel cannot mount
> the root filesystem and I have no idea why, as it is ext3 and ext3 is
> built into the kernel.

What about IDE or SCSI support?

best regards
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Re: Error: Please disable GnuPG Agent from KGpg settings, or fix the agent.

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Lance W. Haverkamp (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> If I turn on the agent in kgpg I keep getting the following error at
> launch, and the agent does not work:
> 
> The use of GnuPG Agent is enabled in GnuPG's configuration file
> (/home/lance/.gnupg/gpg.conf).
> However, the agent doesn't seem to run. This could result in problems
> with signing/decryption.
> Please disable GnuPG Agent from KGpg settings, or fix the agent.
> 
> Does anyone know what to do about this?

If the agent is installed, add

use-gpg-agent

to /etc/X11/Xsession.options. However I think you need the newpg package
that is currently not included in Debian to get the agent.

best regards
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Help using Apt-Get

[David Bokan]

Title: Help using Apt-Get





Hello all,


I am new to Debian (three or so days now)
I have a question, I'm using the Woody release of Debian (3.0) and I want to get KDE3 (and some other recent packages) but in order to do that I have to get packages from the testing release, however, I am unsure of how to do this. I googled it and found something about Pinning and followed the instructions (created a preferences file and put some stuff in there) and it doesn't work. Here's the entry I put in the sources file (that's probably the problem):

deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ testing main 


However, when I run 'apt-get update' here's the result:


Fetched 3053kB in 18s (164kB/s)
Reading Package Lists... Error!
E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
E: Error occurred whie processing python-egenix-mxstack (NewVersion1)
E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.yorku.ca_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_packages
E: Package lists or status fie could not be parsed or opened


I have no idea what any of that means...speaking of which, if someone wouldn't mind explaining the format of the sources.list file (the man page is unclear to me) I would be greatly appreciative. 

Thank You in Advance,
David Bokan

Re: On downloading Debian ISOs

[Loki]

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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:

> Unfortunately the proxy and firewalls here do not allow me to use jigdo
> or bit-torrent, and so the only way for me to download the ISOs are by
> downloading them directly. Over a day or two I managed to download the
> first of the ISO files. After downloading, I figure that maybe I should
> have downloaded the non-US version -- frankly, I hadn't noticed that
> there's a non-US version too present -- and so am now thinking: is there
> any way I can "convert" the US version ISO file into a non-US version?

Not really. But you don't need to.

> Maybe using jigdo or something (which I can do from home over my
> dial-up). Or I can install with the US version and then fetch the non-US
> packages or something?

The latter.

Debian has a non-US package download site that you can access via apt-get.
The non-US ISOs basically just have a couple different packages on the CD.

And frankly, these days, there isn't much on the non-US site anymore. My
Woody disc set is the non-US version, but it doesn't really matter much.
Back when there were different versions of PGP for US and non-US, it
mattered, but now that we're all on GnuPG, it doesn't much anymore.

> ps. One more question: how come there are SEVEN ISOs for download? Just
> to get things up and running (and the with the typical end-user
> applications) how many of these do I have to download?

The first two.

My Woody i386 set is the full 7-disk monster. However, my PPC set is just
the first four.

That's because I have broadband at home though. :) At one point, I needed
to put Woody on an i386 laptop with no network access, and so I grabbed
them all. Basically, everything after the first disk is just packages.
Most of your common packages are on disk 2; disk 1 contains the installer
plus the Absolutely Essential Packages to boot.

I did install a few packages off disk 6 on that laptop though, and I think
once I used disk 7.

However, keep in mind that the more disks you download at work (via
broadband) the fewer packages you're going to have to download at home
(via dialup).

It's also not a bad idea to Google for the ISO filenames. I got much
quicker downloading access by spreading my downloads across a number of
'unofficial' mirrors that aren't listed at debian.org.

It's also possible, incidentally, to install Debian via a floppy
installer, even these days. You need network access during the install to
make that work, though.
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Error: Please disable GnuPG Agent from KGpg settings, or fix the agent.

[Lance W. Haverkamp]

If I turn on the agent in kgpg I keep getting the following error at launch, 
and the agent does not work:

The use of GnuPG Agent is enabled in GnuPG's configuration file 
(/home/lance/.gnupg/gpg.conf).
However, the agent doesn't seem to run. This could result in problems with 
signing/decryption.
Please disable GnuPG Agent from KGpg settings, or fix the agent.

Does anyone know what to do about this?

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Help! Web based apps all die without warning! (Followup)

[Marc Shapiro]

It is definate, thunderbird dies whether I am connected at the time, or  
not.  I was just trying to send an e-mail message and I had to save the  
message as a draft after completing each sentence, since I sometimes could  
not get that much completed before it would die on me, again.

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Trying to install the iso image?

[Wayne Ward]

Hi,
I used jigdo-easy to download the iso
image and the kde tools to burn the image
to cd.When I try too boot from my cd to
install debian-woody, I only get the word
GRUB on my screen.Nothing happen no matter
what I do. Can anyone help.
TIA.
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from debian-user (or other debian lists for that matter).  You can see your 
(and my) posts by going to the debian mail list web site.

I thought I was alone, but the volume of mail on the lists seems down, so I 
suspect a few people are having this problem.

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Kernel rebuild problems

[dbarker]

THis is a bit long, but if anyone has insight into buildling 2.6.x
kernels maybe they can help before I pull out all of my hair.

I installed sarge on my Averatec 3220 (AMD-2000 CPU, 256MB) using the
latest version of the installer (this would be about six weeks ago).

Everything is fine, except the wireless (builtin Broadcom, needing
ndiswrapper). 

Now, I've also installed kernel-2.6.7-k7 package and the 2.6.7
source. The kernel is fine and works a treat, but

I am unable to build my own kernel which will boot. (I've been
recompiling kernels since about 1995 so...)

As far as I can tell, the problem is that the new kernel cannot mount
the root filesystem and I have no idea why, as it is ext3 and ext3 is
built into the kernel.

The significant difference in the logs is that the 2.6.6-1.k7 kernel
package had an initrd with it and the newly-built kernel doesn't.

I'm using grub BTW and the initrd line appears to  be the only
significant difference between the working and non-working menu items.

If anyone can shed any light at all on this I'd be very grateful.


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Re: Sarge RAID install

[Miquel van Smoorenburg]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Gear  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>WA9ALS - John wrote:
>> Newbie installing latest Sarge would like to configure RAID 1.  Would
>> someone please show me what the partition table should look like for the
>> simple case of / and swap partitions, configured with RAID 1?  Thanks!  -
>
>It's not supported on / or /boot - see the thread "Rant about installer
>features" for more discussion and some links.

Oh but it is. Just do a normal install, then convert it to RAID1-
see http://www.miquels.cistron.nl/raid/

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Re: Obsessed with a clean system

[Lourens Steenkamp]

Lourens replying to Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 13:36, Lourens Steenkamp wrote:
>  > Lourens replying to Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > 
>  > [big snip]
>  > 
>  > >  
>  > >  Doesn't matter to me... I have a local mirror for the 4 archs I
>  > >  use.
>  > 
>  > I have also aquired a mirror (woody, sarge, sid, experimental,
>  > security stuff, no src).
>  > Could you tell me how you keep your mirror in sync?
>  > 
>  > TIA.
>  
>  I apologize for the over-length lines. I don't like to break-up these
>  kinds of lines.
>  
>  I use this script:

[snipped]

Thank you very much for your response, I will look at this this coming
weekend.

Have fun

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Re: Sarge RAID install

[Alvin Oga]

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Alexei Chetroi wrote:

> > If you value low downtime, then swap belongs in RAID1 or a hybrid scheme
> > (such as RAID 10).
>   Just a newbie question. In a hybrid scheme, do I need 4 raid
> partitions on 4 different disks? Which raid level comes first, in other
> words: should I stripe mirrors or mirror stripes? I think to gain some
> performance stripes needs to be on different disks, but writes to be
> parallel also need to go on different disks, so for maximum performance
> I need 4 disks?

if you're trying to go faster ... 
- use maximum memory in your motherboard
- use faster disks  ( 8mb buffers )
- use 10K rpm ide disks
- use super expensive/MB scsi-3 disks
 
if you want to setup raid ...
- for raid1 ... ( mirror ) you need 2 or mroe disks
and all data is identical on all drives

- for striping ... 
with 2 disks  its sorta pointless ( its already stripped )
with 3 disks  its off-centered 
with 4 disks  you should be usng raid5 across 4 disks

- in either case, you'd want to mirror first so that data is
  on multiple spindles ... than stripe um to read it faster
but writing will be slower since you have to write it
n-times and/or its parity n-times

- which is better depends on the type of data you're handling ..
web server w/ static pages or credit card processing
would require different setup to optimize its performance

c ya
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Re: System & Hardware clocks

[Zachary Rizer]

--- P V Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> Why does my hardware clock go slow after every
> time  I run Linux?
> 
>  Evidently Debian resets the hardware clock to
> the system clock
> every time it shuts down. How ever the system loads
> the time from
> the hard ware clock when Debian boots up. If it can
> rely on the
> hard ware clock at start-up why can't rely on it at
> shut down too?
> 
>  Also the time maintained by the system should
> be more
> accurate than the hard ware clock. In my case why is
> it not so?
> Since I have compiled the kernel, I might have
> missed some
> important configuration option?
> 
> This problem has developed recently. I regularly
> update the sid
> version that I am using.
> 
> Thanks
> p v mathew
> 
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In my experience, this can be a rather nebulous
"head-scratcher" of a problem.  After fiddling with it
for a bit on my fiancee's machine, I just installed
ntpdate and was done with it.  

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bible-kjv_4.15 make & installation errors in gentoo linux

[Ray Foster]

Hi,
The readme.linux instructions are (after unpacking) to make which gives 
these errors:
/lib/libreadline.so: undefined reference to tgetnum, tgoto, tgetflag, 
BC, tputs, PC, tgetent, UP, tgetstr and it exits with error 1 and error2.
When I "make install" I get three errors:
cp cannot stat bible
chown, chgrp, chmod - "cannot access /usr/bin/bible"
install error 1.

The readme file tells at the bottom that the writer had to change some 
destinations in the Makefile to get it to work.  What do you change to 
what?  I have looked at the Makefile and am no wiser for the look.

Thanks,
rf
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Re: Sarge RAID install

[Alexei Chetroi]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 09:47:04AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:47:04 -0300
> From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Sarge RAID install
> 
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Alvin Oga wrote:
> > >   What are benefits of having swap on raid?
> > 
> > none .. i suppose ...
> > 
> > but if /dev/hda dies .. you can still be working off /dev/hdc
> > along with all your data 
> 
> Exactly.  If the drive that hosts the swap partition dies, the kernel
> goes completely crazy. RAID1 protects you from that.
> 
> If you value low downtime, then swap belongs in RAID1 or a hybrid scheme
> (such as RAID 10).
  Just a newbie question. In a hybrid scheme, do I need 4 raid
partitions on 4 different disks? Which raid level comes first, in other
words: should I stripe mirrors or mirror stripes? I think to gain some
performance stripes needs to be on different disks, but writes to be
parallel also need to go on different disks, so for maximum performance
I need 4 disks?

  Thanks in advance.

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Can't post? or receive

[John Fleming]

I'm not getting mail from the list despite unsubscribing and re-subscribing.
If anyone sees this post (I won't), please email me directly and let me
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Help! Web based apps all die without warning!

[Marc Shapiro]

All web related apps on my system have a tendancy to die without warning.
I am running Sarge with kernel 2.4.24-1-k7.
At first it was just a problem with mozilla-firefox.  It would work for a
while, then, without warning it would just close up and die.  Then
mozilla-thunderbird started doing the same thing.  I thought that maybe it
was a problem that upgrading would solve, so I upgraded to the newest
versions available on Sid for firefox (0.9.3), thunderbird (0.7.3) and the
full mozilla suite (1.7.2).  Unfortunately, the problem still remains.
Any one of these programs is apt to die on me at any moment, without
warning.
I had thought that the problem was strictly a mozilla thing, but opera
(7.50) is also giving me the same problems, now.
Non-web-related apps give me no problems.  Konsole, TkRemind and Open
office are left running on my system and they never die.  Other apps that
I use from time to time, also give me no problems.  Only the web-related
apps do this.
I will have to verify this, but I don't think that it makes any difference
whether I am connected at the time, or not.  I am fairly sure that the
apps die even if I am not connected at the time (such as when reading
previously downloaded e-mail).

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Help with tpconfig

[peter]

Greetings,
I am new to Linux. I have just installed "Sarge" on my Toshiba note book
A15-S157.
I would like to disable touch pad "clicking". From what I can tell so
far, I can do this by using tpconfig. I have installed this package from
Debian. From what I have read, I should run this program at startup.
Could someone provide me with an example of what I sould run, where I
should run it. I am not familiar with startup  scripts yet so I will
need some help. Thanks.
Peter
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Re: screen vs. multiple xterm's + remote connection

[Will Trillich]

On Mon, Aug 16 at 03:58AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> Will Trillich wrote:
> >you can now switch to console (alt-ctl-f1)

or another xterm or another tty anywhere (other computers,
possibly on other continents) :)

> >and do "screen -D -R" to reattach to your original session! 
> >
> My editor was emacs.  It remained running in X where without
> screen emacs was killed.  Indeed I could restart the screen
> session.

emacs wasn't running under X -- it was running at the command
line under screen! :)

> >make some more changes, go out for lunch...
> >
> >now visit a buddy across town and ssh in to your server from his
> >windows machine and do "screen -D -R" and take up where you left
> >off. when his computer freezes up, no worries (for you)...
> >
> >now you travel to piscataway and borrow an imac there to ssh in
> >to your home machine and do "screen -D -R" and resume your
> >undo/redo state, command-line history, suspended jobs et al --
> >as if you hadn't ever left that first xterm.
> >
> >priceless!
> > 
> >
> I haven't learned how to do this yet.

ah. hidden in my blather is the how-to -- also see the man page
for screen:

   -d|-D [pid.tty.host]
does not start screen,  but  detaches  the  elsewhere
running  screen  session.  It  has the same effect as
typing "C-a d" from screen's controlling terminal. -D
is  the  equivalent  to  the power detach key.  If no
session can be detached, this option is  ignored.

so if you forgot to gracefully "^A d" detach a session at work
(or kill its operating window for example) you can force a
detach from elsewhere. suddenly, the cleaning folks at your
office are seeing your xterm say "[remote detached]" and now yuo
can reattach to it wherever you are. (note that your shell is
still active, tho -- the command line where you originally asked
for 'screen' is listening for commands.)

so now it's detached from your xterm at work -- how to reattach
it from home?

   -r [pid.tty.host]
   -r sessionowner/[pid.tty.host]
resumes a detached screen session.  No other  options
(except  combinations  with  -d/-D) may be specified,
though an optional prefix of  [pid.]tty.host  may  be
needed   to  distinguish  between  multiple  detached
screen sessions.  The second form is used to  connect
to  another  user's screen session which runs in mul­
tiuser mode. This indicates that screen  should  look
for   sessions  in  another  user's  directory.  This
requires setuid-root.

voila!

> >in considering xterm and screen, they are NOT mutually
> >exclusive: i.e it's NOT "multiple xterms" VS. "multiple
> >screens". 
> >
> I didn't make that comparison.  "screen" was singular above. :)

it's a bit gray with the singular/plural, isn't it? one konsole
window can have several tabs; one screen instance (session?) can
have several virtual terminal processes (sessions?)...

> I have a DSL router connecting my LAN to the Internet.  I would
> like to learn and test some of the SSH combinations you do
> routinely.  I would need to use PuTTY on a Windows 98 machine
> on this LAN to try to find this Debian sid machine on the
> Internet to see if I can do any of this.  I have no trouble
> doing this on the LAN.  I will read some HOWTO's but would take
> any quick suggestions you have for doing this.

you need to be able to ssh in, and must have 'screen' available.
that's it!

# start a screen session
screen

# do stuff, start editing, background a few manpages,
# then close windows or leave them open and head for home

#...

# log in from home and detach the session at work:
screen -d
# if you closed your windows at work it'll already be
# detached

# reattach/resume your session:
screen -r

the author's favorite is

screen -D -R
# detach if possible, and reattach it (or create a session)


=


to really have some fun, start TWO xterm windows side-by-side
(imagine that one of them is a troubled newbie and the other is a
helpful tech-head):

1. screen

2. screen -x

NOW edit something (doesn't matter which window you use). it's
fun to resize one of them and try to figure out what happens. :)

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DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #114 from D & E Radel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:
Installing gnome-apt (although a little buggy) is A GREAT WAY TO
FIND OUT WHAT PACKAGES ARE AVAILABLE and install/remove them
with ease!
  Newbie tip: Also I discovered that
apt-get remove [packagename]
works much better when there are dependancy problems than
dpkg -r [packagename]

Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...


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System & Hardware clocks

[P V Mathew]

Hello All,
   Why does my hardware clock go slow after every time  I run Linux?
Evidently Debian resets the hardware clock to the system clock
every time it shuts down. How ever the system loads the time from
the hard ware clock when Debian boots up. If it can rely on the
hard ware clock at start-up why can't rely on it at shut down too?
Also the time maintained by the system should be more
accurate than the hard ware clock. In my case why is it not so?
Since I have compiled the kernel, I might have missed some
important configuration option?
   This problem has developed recently. I regularly update the sid
version that I am using.
Thanks
p v mathew
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Open Exchange Experts

[Michael Schmitz]

Dear Debian-Team,

I'm looking for experts to set-up / maintain Open
Exchange Functionalities based on a VServer.

 

How can I find such experts ?

 

Best regards

Michael Schmitz

_
NOVATEC SYSTEMS LTD
Dipl. Ing.  Michael Schmitz, 
General Manager

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OT:Hardly any messages getthing through

[Alan Chandler]

I can only read replies to my previous post via the web site

I am not receiving anything - but from the web site ...
From: Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 08:50:06AM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
> Is there a load of mail held in a queue somewhere, or is there a problem 
with 
> my registration?
> 
> For the past two days, I have had about 3 messages from this list.  Looking 
at 
> the archive, there has been more than that - but not a significant amount 
and 
> certainly not the normal volumes.
> 
> -- 
Hi Alan,
did you add any mail filtering or did you modify any recipies?
-Kev


Answer: NO - nothing is reaching the chandlerfamily.org.uk mail server.  Not 
even requests that might be being rejected.

I even tried re-subscribing to the list.


The post from Paul Scott arrived directly (because he CC mailed me), but I 
didn't receive back my original post nor his post coming via the list

Strange!




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Re: X-UIDL question

[Ciaran Johnston]

John Fleming said:
> I've switched from unstable (via Knoppix) to testing.  I'm using Postifx
> as
> before.  The last line in my mail headers is an X-UIDL header (see below)
> that I hven't seen before.  Any idea where this is coming from and how I
> can
> affect it?  Thanks - John

Google found this:
http://news.spamcop.net/pipermail/spamcop-geeks/2002-October/002842.html



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Re: mbox files for Debian Archives

[J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 14:39:12 +0300, Janjs Jangori wrote:
> We are writing a research paper and our primary research data uses the
> Debain-User Mailing List Archives. Our Python script reads and uses a mbox
> file as an input instead of html.
> Is there any Debian mbox file of the latest archives?

The archives at http://lists.debian.org are generated by MHonArc, a tool
that has mbox format files as its input (or perhaps Maildir, in any case, a
regular mail archive format). AFAIK the archives in mbox format are not
accessible to the general public (probably to limit address harvesting
opportunities for spammers etc.). You may want to contact listmaster at
lists dot debian dot org to obtain copies.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: Help requested: DMA, Seagate ST340014A, Kernel 2.4

[Rthoreau]

> Date: Yesterday 14:49:47

> Lo, on Sunday, August 15, Richard Cobbe did write:

>> The computer did come with a PCI IDE controller card (the "unknown mass
>> storage controller" line above) that has another two controllers on it.
>> I haven't yet tried switching controllers to see if that helps at all; I
>> may attempt that later this afternoon.

> Well, that didn't work.  Moving it to the other controller should make
> the hard drive visible as /dev/hde, but the kernel couldn't find the
> root device, even when I specified `root=/dev/hde2' on the Lilo command
> line.  The odd thing is, I've switched hard drives to this controller
> before, back when I was having strange trouble with the previous drive
> and trying to diagnose it.  I don't remember exactly what incantation I
> had to mumble in order to get the kernel to find the partition, though,
> so I can't repeat the process.

> Does anyone else have any suggestions?

> Richard

Your lspci listing should not contain any unknown devices, for example below 
is my listing for my MP 2460.

00:00.0 Host bridge Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-760 MP [IGD4-2P] System 
Controller 11 00  
00:01.0 PCI bridge Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-760 MP [IGD4-2P] AGP 
Bridge 00 00  
00:07.0 ISA bridge Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-766 [ViperPlus] ISA 02 00 
 
00:07.1 IDE interface Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-766 [ViperPlus] IDE 01 
8a  
00:07.3 Bridge Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-766 [ViperPlus] ACPI 01 00 
 
00:07.4 USB Controller Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-766 [ViperPlus] USB 07 
10  
00:0a.0 USB Controller OPTi Inc. 82C861 20 10 OPTi Inc. 82C861
00:0a.1 USB Controller OPTi Inc. 82C861 20 10 OPTi Inc. 82C861
00:0c.0 Ethernet controller Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. Ethernet 100/10 MBit 
31 00 ARCHTEK TELECOM Corp 0008
00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 10 00 
C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] 
b2 00 CardExpert Technology 05de

I do not remember exactly what chipset the mpx series use, but its AMD 760ish 
based. I would load a k7 kernel-image smp capable with apt-get and see what 
lspci says. Also knoppix, and other live cds are great to verify hardware 
setup, so you could give them a try. It might just be eaiser to just apt-get 
a kernel image and give it a try.

Rthoreau


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