Xen-enabled kernel sources for etch

[Иванов Михаил]

Greetings!

Where can I find debian etch kernel sources patched for xen?
I installed linux-source-2.6.18 but no xen related code is present.

I want to rebuild the kernel with different HIGHTPTE (and maybe
some other settings) because after I have installed oracle 10.2.0.1
under dom0 I'm getting a lot of messages like following:

Bad pte = 0033e0a0, process = oracle, vm_flags = 70, vaddr = b702b000
[] vm_normal_page+0x98/0xb0
[] unmap_vmas+0x1fc/0x5bf
[] unmap_region+0x8c/0xf2
[] do_munmap+0x148/0x19b
[] sys_munmap+0x33/0x41
[] syscall_call+0x7/0xb

oracle seems to be working normally.

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Saving threads (was Re: help with debian)

[Ron Johnson]

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On 02/18/07 22:46, Kent West wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> It would have been better to quote a few lines, but the thread is still
>> fresh. It's not like he posted to an age-old thread, where context is
>> really important.
>>   
> 
> Not meaning to take sides, but I myself don't keep up with threads; I
> deal with a message, then toss it and the related messages. If another

Why not?  Pressing M (to Mark As Read) is just as easy as pressing Del.


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re: How to mount Solaris disk as slave?

[Mike McClain]

> From: Nyizsnyik Ferenc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: re: How to mount Solaris disk as slave?
> 
> /dev/hdb5   88772   91609 1429753+  82  Linux swap /
> Solaris
> /dev/hdb6   91609  15505631977351   83  Linux
> 
> Any ideas?

Did your boot messages (dmesg) not show your Solaris slices?
Mine showed hda11-17 as slice0-6 even though fdisk said my last
partition was hda10.
I'd suggest you try mounting hdb7-14 as ufs ufstype=sun and 
see if you can read them. 
That's my only idea.
G'luck.
Mike


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Re: old hardware, newer Debian [SOLVED]

[Mike McClain]

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Bannister)
> Subject: Re: old hardware, newer Debian [SOLVED]
> 
> > Any idea why my gpm mouse doesn't work at the CL after starting X until
> > after stopping and starting it a couple of times? It is only a problem 
> > right after starting X, then once it's working properly at the CL I can 
> > switch back and forth between X and the CL with no more problems.
> 
> Does this help: http://bugs.debian.org/233933
> also http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/gpm-X/node3.html

Thanks for the pointers Chris, these are about using /dev/gpmdata which
I wasn't doing and I tried it the suggested way and now don't have to 
restart gpm when switching from X to the CLI but the mouse buttons are
no longer swapped in X. I'll either have to figure out how to do that
in X or have to relearn the mouse button to function map.
Appreciate your help though.
Mike


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Re: avidemux, ffmpeg and lavc

[Benjamí Villoslada]

El Dilluns 19 Febrer 2007 04:44, Ron Johnson va escriure:
> Have you installed w32codes?  It might not help *this* problem, but
> you still need it.

Yes, I've installed w32codecs

$ dpkg -l "w32*" | grep ^i
ii  w32codecs  20061022-0.0   win32 binary codecs

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Re: PCMCIA cards in laptops: do they need to be mounted/unmounted when installed/removed?

[cga2000]

On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 01:40:30PM EST, Ken Heard wrote:
> PCMCIA cards in laptops: do they need to be mounted/unmounted when
> installed/removed like floppies, CF cards, etc.?

mount/umount are file system management commands.

see "man 8 mount" .. in particular the "NAME" part and the first few
lines of "DESCRIPTION".

NAME

  mount - mount a file system

...  

as to PC cards they are managed by the cardctl or pccardctl commands
(depending on how recent your kernel is).

see "man cardctl" or "man pccardctl" depending on how recent your
kernel is.

I happen to have a portable CD-ROM burner attached to my laptop via a PC
card.  

If in need to check the current status of that PC card (in slot) 1 I
could issue a:

# pccardctl status 1
  5V 16-bit PC Card
  function 0: [ready]

Now, after inserting a data CD in this peripheral in order to access its
contents I would have to mount the file system:

# mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrw0 /mnt/cdrw0

I can then "cd" - no pun intended - to /mnt/cdrw0 and apart from the
fact that the files are necessarily read-only.. I can pretty much
process its contents as I would my home directory.

IOW, it is as if I had plugged the iso file system that lives on the
CD-ROM into an available slot of my running file system, thereby giving
myself and other users of the system access to its contents.

If on the other hand I had inserted an audio CD in the peripheral I
would not need to issue a mount command to listen to it.  And if I did
try to mount issue a mount command against the audio CD, I would get an
error informing me that the medium does not contain a file system.

To try and clarify further, I also have a PC network card in the other
pcmcia slot  of this laptop and clearly there would be no sense in
trying to "mount" that card.

HTH

Thanks,
cga


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Re: Etch Apt list

[Michael Pobega]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:50:00 -0500
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Pobega wrote:
> > > deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian/ etch  main non-free contrib
> > 
> > Just so you know none of those are official Debian repositories
> 
> The above is a debian mirror.
> 
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> 
Oh, you're right. Hah, learn something new everyday.


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Re: Etch Apt list

[Joey Hess]

Michael Pobega wrote:
> > deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian/ etch  main non-free contrib
> 
> Just so you know none of those are official Debian repositories

The above is a debian mirror.

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Re: help with debian

[Kent West]

Andrei Popescu wrote:
> It would have been better to quote a few lines, but the thread is still
> fresh. It's not like he posted to an age-old thread, where context is
> really important.
>   

Not meaning to take sides, but I myself don't keep up with threads; I
deal with a message, then toss it and the related messages. If another
message comes in two hours later, I expect context, or lacking that, am
willing sometimes to go find the archive if I need a reminder for my
short-sighted Quick-On-the-Delete-button habit.

It's understandable that a newbie posting will expect others on the list
to remember him and his posts, even if they're only two minutes old.
(After all, they're important to the poster, so they _must_ be important
to others also.) But even so, that expectation is wrong and rude.


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Re: (GNOME?) Logout Problem

[Michael Pobega]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:33:56 +0200
Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:13:31 -0500
> Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > >On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:06:02 +0200
> > >Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Have a look at
> > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=305471
> > > 
> > 
> > Is that the only documentation on this bug there is? I'm assuming
> > this is a pretty isolated problem (Since I'm the only one complaining
> > about this), but I can't seem to find any other documentation on this
> > bug.
> 
> I thought you should have a good look at what processes are running
> when you try to logout. Is the same happening immediately when you are
> starting your computer?
> 
> Just guessing here ...
> 
> Regards,
> Andrei
> -- 

Okay, let's see. 


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4 ?S  0:00 [migration/1]
5 ?SN 0:00 [ksoftirqd/1]
6 ?S< 0:00 [events/0]
7 ?S< 0:00 [events/1]
8 ?S< 0:00 [khelper]
9 ?S< 0:00 [kthread]
   13 ?S< 0:00 [kblockd/0]
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  170 ?S  0:00 [pdflush]
  171 ?S  0:00 [pdflush]
  172 ?S< 0:00 [kswapd0]
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  174 ?S< 0:00 [aio/1]
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  636 ?S< 0:00 [khubd]
  692 ?S< 0:00 [ata/0]
  694 ?S< 0:00 [ata/1]
  696 ?S< 0:00 [ata_aux]
  724 ?S< 0:00 [khpsbpkt]
  784 ?S< 0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
  790 ?S< 0:11 [scsi_eh_1]
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Re: Etch Apt list

[Michael Pobega]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:00:44 -0500
Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
>I just realized tonight how few lines there are in my apt sources
> list. And I am wondering if I am missing some.
> This is my list:
> 
> #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main
> 
> deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian/ etch  main non-free contrib
> ##deb-src ftp://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
> 
> ##deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian-multimedia/ testing main
> ##deb-src http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian-multimedia/ testing main
> 
> ##deb ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/rox4debian binary/
> 
> 
> Will this keep me up to date ?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Frank
> 

Just so you know none of those are official Debian repositories, so they won't 
keep you up to date with official updates. Usually /official/ Debian updates 
are held in http://us.debian.org/, or something similar. Here is my 
sources.list (Note: I only added in the "contrib", otherwise it's only official 
repositories) 

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST 
Binary-1 20070107-08:41]/ etch contrib main

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main

deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib

You can change etch to testing if you wish.


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Re: Etch Apt list

[Greg Folkert]

On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 23:11 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On 2/18/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 22:00 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote:
> >I just realized tonight how few lines there are in my apt
> sources
> > list. And I am wondering if I am missing some.
> > This is my list:
> 
> 
> ## testing - Debian Etch
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib
> non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib
> non-free
> 
> ## Security
> deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib
> non-free
> 
> I had 'etch' here; I hope 'testing' works, as it's about to change! 

OK. In the Debian User archive look for "smooth upgrades" in Early
January for a serious discussion on this.

> 
> ## Christian Marillat's stuff
> (http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ for more info)
> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
> 
> And here I've had 'testing' ever since the location change, and it
> _has_ been updating. 

Considering Christian has said "release name" is the only supported
convention, the release type will be supported for a limited time.

>  
> That is all you really need.
> 
> Unless for some reason you need sources, too. 

Of course, but he had all source lines commented out.

Yep... there are many more reasons.

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Re: Etch Apt list

[Patrick Wiseman]

On 2/18/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 22:00 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote:
>I just realized tonight how few lines there are in my apt sources
> list. And I am wondering if I am missing some.
> This is my list:


## testing - Debian Etch
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free

## Security
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free



I had 'etch' here; I hope 'testing' works, as it's about to change!

## Christian Marillat's stuff (http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ for more

info)
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main



And here I've had 'testing' ever since the location change, and it _has_
been updating.



That is all you really need.



Unless for some reason you need sources, too.

Patrick

Re: Dosemu

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On 02/18/07 21:43, Ken Heard wrote:
> Is there anyone on this list who uses dosemu?  I had it working on Sarge
> ever since Sarge came out, but I am having trouble getting it to work on
> Etch.

This is an example of a Bad Question.

All we know is "dosemu" and "Sarge".  No error messages or what
you've done to solve it yourself or research it.
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Re: Etch Apt list

[Greg Folkert]

On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 22:00 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote:
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> 
>I just realized tonight how few lines there are in my apt sources
> list. And I am wondering if I am missing some.
> This is my list:


## testing - Debian Etch
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free

## Security
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free

## Christian Marillat's stuff (http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ for more info)
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main

That is all you really need.
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Re: Dosemu

[Greg Folkert]

On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 22:43 -0500, Ken Heard wrote:
> Is there anyone on this list who uses dosemu?  I had it working on Sarge 
> ever since Sarge came out, but I am having trouble getting it to work on 
> Etch.

Exactly how did you install it?

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Re: avidemux, ffmpeg and lavc

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On 02/18/07 20:27, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
> El Diumenge 18 Febrer 2007 22:30, Ron Johnson va escriure:
>> Do you have debian-multimedia in your sources.list?
> 
> Yes:
> 
> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -i multimedia
> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main
> 
> Seems that avidemux works with in order to make mpeg4 (lavc) files:
> http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Video_encoders
> 
> And I've installed libavcodec
> 
> $ dpkg -l libavcodec* | grep ^i
> ii  libavcodec0d0.cvs20060823-6 ffmpeg codec library
> ii  libavcodeccvs51 20070208-0.0library to encode decode multimedia 
> streams
> 
> But ffmpeg does'nt make lavc files (confused, today codecs is a mistery for 
> me 
> O:)

Have you installed w32codes?  It might not help *this* problem, but
you still need it.


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Dosemu

[Ken Heard]

Is there anyone on this list who uses dosemu?  I had it working on Sarge 
ever since Sarge came out, but I am having trouble getting it to work on 
Etch.


Regards,

Ken Heard


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Re: avidemux, ffmpeg and lavc

[Benjamí Villoslada]

El Dilluns 19 Febrer 2007 03:27, Benjamí Villoslada va escriure:
> Seems that avidemux works with in order to make mpeg4 (lavc) files:

*works with _libavcodec_ 

(sorry)

> http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Video_encoders
>
> And I've installed libavcodec

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Etch Apt list

[Frank McCormick]

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   I just realized tonight how few lines there are in my apt sources
list. And I am wondering if I am missing some.
This is my list:

#deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main

deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian/ etch  main non-free contrib
##deb-src ftp://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian/ etch main non-free contrib

deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main

##deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian-multimedia/ testing main
##deb-src http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian-multimedia/ testing main

##deb ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/rox4debian binary/


Will this keep me up to date ?


Thanks

Frank

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Re: avidemux, ffmpeg and lavc

[Benjamí Villoslada]

El Diumenge 18 Febrer 2007 22:30, Ron Johnson va escriure:
> Do you have debian-multimedia in your sources.list?

Yes:

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -i multimedia
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main

Seems that avidemux works with in order to make mpeg4 (lavc) files:
http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Video_encoders

And I've installed libavcodec

$ dpkg -l libavcodec* | grep ^i
ii  libavcodec0d0.cvs20060823-6 ffmpeg codec library
ii  libavcodeccvs51 20070208-0.0library to encode decode multimedia 
streams

But ffmpeg does'nt make lavc files (confused, today codecs is a mistery for me 
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Re: [Debian-User] Xen and a local mirror or a R/W DVD

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 03:14:39PM -0700, Archive wrote:
> I really like the idea passed on to me of getting the entire 14 disk 
> ETCH (older and therefore stable) distribution on a R/W DVD where the 

An older Etch is exactly the opposite of what you want.  In the time
since the freeze, there have been dozens of release-critical bug fixes
and a number of security updates.  Thus, running an older Etch is bad if
you plan to be online and is also generally bad since you are more
likely to encounter a bug that was fixed at a time after the date of the
particular snapshot of Etch you are using.

> first DVD contains the installer.  Apparently, this approach using the 
> appropriate package management calls will allow that same R/W DVD to be 
> automatically updated.  Another person advocating this approach 
> indicated that I could use the ISO files instead of creating a mirror of 
> the POOL (directory having the latests release, testing, and others) 
> packages.However, I like the idea but it may have a flaw which I detail 
> further on near the bottom.
> 
I'm not sure that you can do that with a DVD.

Regards,

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Re: autofs and /home/home

[Jan C. Nordholz]

Hi,

> I can't seem to figure out a *very* simple automount configuration
> (I've done this before, but it was over two years ago :-( ).
> 
> After much work (and not enough understanding!), I have succeed in
> automounting a remote /home directory on a local client using
> 'autofs'.
> 
> Unfortunately, the mounted directory on the client is under /home/home
> instead of /home.

usually automount is used like this:
* you create a dedicated directory where all your automounted directories
  shall live, e.g. /net, and tell the master map about it
] (/etc/auto.master)
] /net  /etc/auto.net
* you create that map specifying where each possible subdirectory should be
  mounted from upon request, e.g.
] (/etc/auto.net)
] share -fstype=nfs server1:/srv/share
  resulting in a working automounted share
] /net/share <-> server1:/srv/share.

This map (auto.net) is called "indirect". If you want to have /home itself
automounted, you won't get anywhere with indirect maps, because that
would mean that / had to be governed by an automount daemon. Have a look at

/usr/share/doc/autofs/README.direct

and pay attention to the warnings at the bottom of it. When everything
is set up, don't forget to edit /etc/default/autofs in order to switch off
DISABLE_DIRECT.


Regards,

Jan


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Re: autofs and /home/home

[Mankuthimma]

Hi,

In your config,


  /etc/auto.master:
  /home   /etc/auto.misc  --timeout 60


This should be fine ...



  /etc/auto.misc:
  home-fstype=nfs,hard,intr   1.2.3.4:/home


But, this line should be
*   -fstype=nfs,hard,intr   1.2.3.4:/home/&

I've a similar setup and it's working just fine.

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Re: make-kpgp && git-bisect

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:15:36 +0100, Frank Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:  

> linux-source-2.6.172.6.17 (2.6-1.gitbisect) unstable; urgency=low
>   ( ^^)

> versus 2.6.17, which was not part of cmd line parameters, but seemed
> to be derived from the kernel itself (version.h).

> This experience, was not done with the posted cmdline, but was the
> result of one of my many trials in the 3 hours before posting.

Yeah, version.h needs match ./debain/changelog; this is a
 sanity check.

> The cmdline from my previous email

> MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4 HOSTCC=gcc-3.4" make-kpkg --append-to-version
> 2.6.17 --revision 2.6-1.gitbisect -us -uc --initrd --rootcmd
> fakeroot kernel_image',

> works in fact. I discouvered this 20 minutes after sending out my
> email. The only drawback is, that it created

> linux-image-2.6.172.6.17_2.6-1.gitbisect_i386.deb

> which is a strange looking name.

ok. the upstream version is 2.6.17. Normally, the package name
 produced would be linux-image-2.6.17. You asked for something to be
 added to the version, and thus the package name: "2.6.17"
 So, it adds to the original linux-image-2.6.17, the string 2.6.17, to
 get: linux-image-2.6.172.6.17

You could try:  --append-to-version -foo, which will create:
 linux-image-2.6.17-foo.


> dpkg -l gives:

> ii linux-image-2.6.172.6.17 2.6-1.gitbisect 
  Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.172.6.17

> I noticed too, that the beginning of a line in debian/changecontrol
> was modified by make-kpkg

You probably mean debian/changelog

> linux-source-2.6.172.6.17 (2.6-1.gitbisect) unstable; urgency=low
> ^

Which is the package name from above.

> I think I can work with the current approach. But I still feel
> slightly confused.

Hope this clears it up a bit.

manoj
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Re: 2.6.20 kernel in unstable?

[Greg Folkert]

On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 13:15 +1300, Greg Trounson wrote:
> Any idea when kernel 2.6.20 is going to show up in Sid?  The most recent 
> version I see in 
> Sid is 2.6.18-4.
> 
> Both 2.6.18 and 2.6.19 have a critical cifs bug that makes any machine that 
> mounts windows 
> shares pretty much unusable.

After Etch is released. Remember Debian is in Freeze mode.
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2.6.20 kernel in unstable?

[Greg Trounson]

Any idea when kernel 2.6.20 is going to show up in Sid?  The most recent version I see in 
Sid is 2.6.18-4.


Both 2.6.18 and 2.6.19 have a critical cifs bug that makes any machine that mounts windows 
shares pretty much unusable.


thanks,
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When you're a rank noob (was Re: Old Computer Parts)

[Ron Johnson]

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> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 22:02 +0100, Joe Hart wrote:
[snip]
> No matter how easy or difficult the question you ask, there will always
> be some smartass who tell to you go RTFM (which is often a longer
> sentence to type than the answer to your question).  Don't let it bother
> you.  Eric S. Raymond's advice is good advice, but I know people can be
> intimidated and/or confused by some documentation out there.  Heck,
> after more than 10 years of using linux some projects' documentation
> still overwhelm me.  If you know absolutely nothing about a certain
> program or the technologies involved, it can be difficult to figure out
> where to start.

Then that's what you say at the beginning of your email. :)

These two quotes are guaranteed to garner sympathy:
  "I'm a noob and I don't know enough to know where to begin
  to look."
  "Internet access is flaky, slow and expensive."

(Of course, saying that with an @stanford.edu address will only get
you flamed...)
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Re: Woody on 486 problem

[Hans du Plooy]

On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 23:19 +, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> I saw on the net a little linux computer that consists pretty much of a
> network card and a serial port. www.picolinux.com I think.  I thought

Wrong url, here's the correct one:

http://www.picotux.com/

Hans


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[Debian-User] Xen and a local mirror or a R/W DVD

[Archive]

I really like the idea passed on to me of getting the entire 14 disk 
ETCH (older and therefore stable) distribution on a R/W DVD where the 
first DVD contains the installer.  Apparently, this approach using the 
appropriate package management calls will allow that same R/W DVD to be 
automatically updated.  Another person advocating this approach 
indicated that I could use the ISO files instead of creating a mirror of 
the POOL (directory having the latests release, testing, and others) 
packages.However, I like the idea but it may have a flaw which I detail 
further on near the bottom.


Since I don't have my high speed Internet connection yet (could be 
months yet) perhaps I could pay someone to construct and mail me such a 
package.  Yes, I will pay but whoever wants to do this needs to commit 
to a fixed shipping fee because this sounds like a custom approach not 
available normally. Note also, that such an effort should be in US 
dollars -- I am out here in the cold in a place called Northern Alberta, 
Canada some 63 miles NE of the capital city of Edmonton, Alberta.


Failing that, I may have to find someone in the LUG in Edmonton that 
would do this task.  But this is not easily arranged unless someone 
knows a specific person with the suitable knowledge, time, and interest 
to do this on my behalf.


Note: We are talking about an older and therefore stable ETCH 
distribution consisting of the entire set (yes I know I only need the 
first few CDs) but I want it all -- all 14 or so and on DVDs and these 
DVD's must be both READ and WRITE.  When I get the high speed interface 
then I can download the updates myself perhaps using the ISO images but 
for now the proposed idea is two use the one set of R/W DVDs that can 
provide the initial installation and also allow for the periodic 
upgrade. I'm not sure that the "upgrade" suggestion will work because to 
work would involve (for just one package) a possible disturbance in one 
complete DVD and maybe two depending upon the location of the package 
and the free space on the DVDs.


Some comments on this would be appreciated.

Nevertheless, I will still be going ahead with my Local LAN POOL archive 
once I have the high speed interface.


Thanks, Ted
Xen is good for you.
Even Microsoft likes Xen.
Leading Chip manufacturers like Xen.
Some CPUs have a hardware interface supposedly friendly to Xen.and 
virtualizing.



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Re: Old Computer Parts

[Hans du Plooy]

On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 22:02 +0100, Joe Hart wrote:
> I think a lot of the questions that are asked in this mailing list could
> be self answered, but it seems that there are a lot of people who never
> bother looking for an answer when then think a guru will take time from
> their precious day to reply.

Well, some people are lazy.  But if I think back to when I started out
with linux, I had no idea what I was doing, many man pages were fairly
cryptic, available documentation assumed you know what you're doing.  To
make matters worse, I had no internet access, and only limited e-mail
access - which means mailing lists was my primary source of information.

In first world countries, people take thier superfast internet
connections for granted and don't realise that in much of the rest of
the world having an internet connection at home can be a luxury even for
IT professionals.

No matter how easy or difficult the question you ask, there will always
be some smartass who tell to you go RTFM (which is often a longer
sentence to type than the answer to your question).  Don't let it bother
you.  Eric S. Raymond's advice is good advice, but I know people can be
intimidated and/or confused by some documentation out there.  Heck,
after more than 10 years of using linux some projects' documentation
still overwhelm me.  If you know absolutely nothing about a certain
program or the technologies involved, it can be difficult to figure out
where to start.

These days I have hardly any time at all to read these lists (when I do
there are always a couple of thousand mails from debian-user) let alone
reply, but when I do get time, I really try to reply to every question I
can answer, no matter how basic.   If some guru hadn't taken some of his
precious time to answer my basic questions 10 years ago, I would
probably not be in IT anymore.

Hans


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Re: Woody on 486 problem

[Hans du Plooy]

On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 14:54 +0100, Joe Hart wrote:
> Still, I have a old Celeron 600mhz with 16MB acting as a server running
> Sarge.  It works fine.  The computer was heading to the dump and I
> thought I could rescue it and put it to some use.  It does not have a
> GUI, and doesn't need one.

I cringe when I see good working hardware being thrown away.  My old
company has a whole army of Pentium 100 machines doing Firewall duty at
their clients.  Heck, I've used a 486 for just that - ok, it was 56k
dialup with only two PCs in the network, but still...

When I moved house I bit my lip and put old my old 486/P-I/P-II machines
on the pavement.  I don't know if whoever took them sold them for scrap
metal or gave them to the neigbour's kid, but it sure was sad letting
them go.

But in my current job I've become much more aware of power issues, and
where I would usually use a couple of machines to test stuff that needed
a couple of machines, I'm now more inclined to get one strong box and
use virtual machines.  One of my friends bought a secondhand 486 because
he needs something with a serial port to connect to some control system.
I saw on the net a little linux computer that consists pretty much of a
network card and a serial port. www.picolinux.com I think.  I thought
that would probably do the job too and almost certainly cost much less
to run in the long run.  And it's quiet :-)

Hans


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[Debian-User] Xen and IP CHAINS and IP FORWARDING

[Archive]

As mentioned in an earlier email the DOMU or secondary Xen system(s) can 
not only talk to the DOM0 or Xen primary system but also to other other 
DOMU or secondary Xen system(s) and that most likely involves not only 
LAN interaction but also Internet interaction.  

Where internet interaction is involved one can set up an effective 
firewall involving what might seem as a few lines (5 or 6) of trciky but 
yet elegantly simple code assignments which I call route management code 
which defines tunneling, gateways, and other associations.  There is a 
set of such code for DOM0, the primary Xen system and for each DOMU, the 
secondary Xen systems.  This code can involve simple or complex logic 
where the logic is the assignment process.  The more interactive these 
DOMU or secondary systems become the more complex is the so called 
logic. What seems the most difficult are so called bridges. They seem 
difficult to understand  because we have very little to do with them 
once they have been set up or someone has helped us but not passed on 
the theory.  A bridge is just the logic that joins or associates 
(causing to share) two or more network pathways to a common interface.


It would be nice to have some examples of this route management code 
with an explanation of it's operation and theory for both simple and 
complex scenarios, especially some Xen scenarios.  


Any takers on this??

I've got some old examples that I might be able to dig up. .I am saving 
every scenario that occurs on the Debian list on anything associated 
with Xen or Xen and associated technologies.  I have thousands of email 
from Xen developers taken from the Xen list up to about a year or more 
ago.  If I  can I will try to drag up that email from another email 
account that a year ago I abandoned because it regularly overflowed with 
sexual harrassement and a multitude of viruses, trojans, worms, and new 
pests with which the various anti virus vendors of that time were 
overwhelmed during that same time period. Obviously, I am not using a 
linux account but that will change when I do my Xen set up.


It would be interesting to see an example where the Windows OS is 
treated as a DOMU secondary system virtual machine under a Debian  DOM0 
primary Xen system and was also required to not only to commuicate with 
the Linux LAN network but also the Windows counterpart of XP,

NT2000, etc.

In the field of MATH, mathematicians work at theories and how to's 
almost as a game.  There are two benefits, first even though errors may 
abound one's personal knowledge base increases as they debate and 
uncover their errors.  Secondly, many of these theories end up becoming 
useful.  We in computer hardware and software development need to be 
like these mathematicians and dare to explore what we do not understand. 
Fear is our worst enemy.  Failure should just be treated as a step 
forward in the learning curve.  We should crave knowledge for the sake 
of knowledge as the more we dare to understand the more competant we 
become at all things.


I charge extra for these pep talks. If they get snipped then I will know 
they are not appreciated.  Often what we need in order to do something 
different is the courage to face our fears and take those steps into 
successs. For those of you that have a spare machine or space on a 
machine I would encourage you to engage the Xen technology and then 
share your problems and successes with the rest of us so we can build on 
one anothers eventual success. Xen is the technology that allows us to 
build our personal knowledge base by experimenting on DOMU Xen secondary 
systems.  To do this all we need is to engage this promise of knowledge 
and success by installing Xen and getting help if we need help.



Thanks, Ted


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Re: (GNOME?) Logout Problem

[Michael Pobega]

>On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:06:02 +0200
>Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Have a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=305471
> 

Is that the only documentation on this bug there is? I'm assuming this is a 
pretty isolated problem (Since I'm the only one complaining about this), but I 
can't seem to find any other documentation on this bug.

What packages would I have to reinstall to try with a fresh X? I figure I could 
/aptitude reinstall/ anything and hope that it works right.


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Re: no sound..

[Nigel Henry]

On Sunday 18 February 2007 20:28, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:48:47 +0100
>
> Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To play mp3's you will need to have the "lame" package installed, at
> > least I need that using the mhwaveedit player/editor.
> > https://gna.org/projects/mhwaveedit/
>
> Lame is for encoding (creating) not decoding (playing) mp3s.

Apologies Andrei. I'd convinced myself that lame was doing both encoding and 
decoding, but just having removed lame off the distro, mhwaveedit still 
decodes and plays mp3's perfectly.

Doh!  We all make mistakes, but I was just trying to help.

Nigel.


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Re: [Debian-User] Xen and IP CHAINS and IP FORWARDING

[Steve Kemp]

On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 02:44:50PM -0700, Archive wrote:

> It would be nice to have some examples of this route management code 
> with an explanation of it's operation and theory for both simple and 
> complex scenarios, especially some Xen scenarios.  
> 
> Any takers on this??

  a)  The Xen mailing list, and xen wiki would be a better place to
 get xen-specific help:

http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/

http://lists.xensource.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xen-users

  b)  Posting simple questions rather than long monologues would 
 perhaps make people more inclined to read your mails rather than
 delete them.

Steve
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Re: Old Computer Parts

[Joe Hart]

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 08:07:36AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote:
>> Sorry, my ignorance.
> 
> Why sorry?  What better reason to ask the question?
> 
> -- hendrik
> 
> 
Sorry, just trying to follow Eric S. Raymond's advice.  Don't ask
questions until you've RTFM or STFW.  I mean really, CNC is clearly in
the wikipedia.  If I had of bothered looking I would have known.

I think a lot of the questions that are asked in this mailing list could
be self answered, but it seems that there are a lot of people who never
bother looking for an answer when then think a guru will take time from
their precious day to reply.

But then again, old advice from a teacher:  You'll never know the answer
unless you ask.  Which advice to follow?  Oh I'm so confused :) (not really)


Joe
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Re: (GNOME?) Logout Problem

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:13:31 -0500
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:06:02 +0200
> >Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Have a look at
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=305471
> > 
> 
> Is that the only documentation on this bug there is? I'm assuming
> this is a pretty isolated problem (Since I'm the only one complaining
> about this), but I can't seem to find any other documentation on this
> bug.
> 
> What packages would I have to reinstall to try with a fresh X? I
> figure I could /aptitude reinstall/ anything and hope that it works
> right.

I thought you should have a good look at what processes are running
when you try to logout. Is the same happening immediately when you are
starting your computer?

Just guessing here ...

Regards,
Andrei
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Looking it up yourself (was Re: Old Computer Parts)

[Ron Johnson]

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On 02/18/07 15:02, Joe Hart wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 08:07:36AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote:
>>> Sorry, my ignorance.
>> Why sorry?  What better reason to ask the question?
> 
>> -- hendrik
> 
> 
> Sorry, just trying to follow Eric S. Raymond's advice.  Don't ask
> questions until you've RTFM or STFW.  I mean really, CNC is clearly in
> the wikipedia.  If I had of bothered looking I would have known.

Certain TLAs are so general-looking that you just don't think to
look it up, because you figure that you'll get jillions of bogus
responses.

> I think a lot of the questions that are asked in this mailing list could
> be self answered, but it seems that there are a lot of people who never
> bother looking for an answer when then think a guru will take time from
> their precious day to reply.

Well, that's true.

> But then again, old advice from a teacher:  You'll never know the answer
> unless you ask.

Yes, but ask who (or what)?  An "expert"?  Which reference?  Yourself?

> Which advice to follow?  Oh I'm so confused :) (not really)

My advice?  There *are* stupid questions: those that you can answer
yourself with just a modicum of neural effort.

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Re: avidemux, ffmpeg and lavc

[Ron Johnson]

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On 02/18/07 15:03, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
> Just I'm curious about lavc (mpeg4) codec in my Debian Sid:
> 
> I can't put lavc codec in -vcodec ffmpeg option
> 
> ---
> $ ffmpeg -i input.avi -sameq -vcodec lavc -acodec mp3 -f avi -s 400x240 
> output.avi
> [...]
> Unknown codec 'lavc'
> ---
> 
> But avidemux makes mpeg4 (lavc) files.
> 
> I need any ffmpeg / mplayer library in order to use ffmpeg? 
> 
> What lavc library use avidemux? --I can't see avidemux encode operations with 
> one 'ps ax'.

Do you have debian-multimedia in your sources.list?


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Re: Inodes date in future - problem

[David Dawson]

David Dawson wrote:

> Running Debian Etch on an AMD Athlon 2100+ ECS motherboard with 3 hard
> disks, the 40 G original hard disk was showing inodes date in future on a
> user forced fsck.
> The reason the user forced the fsck was because of a system sluggishness
> he suspected problems and rebooted with a forced fsck.
> 
> I have installed etch on another of his hard disks and moved over his home
> directory to the new disk.
> 
> Does anyone have an idea what would have put inodes dates in the future on
> this drive only and would this have caused a disk slowdown? It wouldn't be
> swap issues, I think, since the machine has 2G of RAM.
> 
> Thanks
IN ANSWER TO THE POSTERS:

-It has not lately been booted from a CD I can rule that out.
-I think these might have been spurious errors at that.
-Possibly the problem was with udevd and may now have (touch wood) been   
corrected by dpkg-reconfigure.
-I am doing a snapshot of the process stack every 5 minutes and logging, so
that I can capture the process that is doing the resource-hogging which
caused the user to want to re-boot his machine (I suspect something was
going wrong with an X app and really all he needed to do was kill the app)

-Thanks!
-- 
If you wrestle in the mud with a pig.
you both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

-- Dave Dawson


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Re: The success of an Etch

[Michael M.]

On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 18:56 +0100, Mikael Backman wrote:

> Is there any way to get this CD-netinstaller onto a DVD? My computer
> boots DVDs only...
> 

It's possible to boot from the .iso on your hard disk.

See: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apas02.html
(Section A.2.5. Booting from hard disc)


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Re: Woody on 486 problem

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:05:57 +0100, Joe wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  > I'm nt so sure that sarge installer will work with 16MB of RAM. I
>  > thought that 32MB is minimum.
> 
>  Perhaps I am mistaken.  It is possible that the server in question
>  has 64 MB of RAM. 

..the current sarge 3.1r4 network cd installer ask for 24MB minimum,
doing US english only and ugly ascii bluescreen wanna-bees.  ;o)

..another box with 96MB came up nicely with all lingos, I believe 
the limit is 64MB, the 48MB box I had to do english only.

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Re: make-kpgp && git-bisect

[Frank Hartmann]

Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:04:50 +0100, Frank Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:  
>
>> But I failed now several times at the end of the process. Could
>> someone help me with the parameter --append-to-version XX --revision
>> 2.6-1.gitbisect YY and the strings in debian/changecontrol ZZ?
>
> Can you post the error message?

Hello Manoj,


Not verbatim, its gone now. It said something about a mismatch of
the part marked below in debian/changelog 

linux-source-2.6.172.6.17 (2.6-1.gitbisect) unstable; urgency=low
  ( ^^)

versus 2.6.17, which was not part of cmd line parameters, but seemed
to be derived from the kernel itself (version.h).

This experience, was not done with the posted cmdline, but was the
result of one of my many trials in the 3 hours before posting.

I tried at least the following variants

  434   MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4  HOSTCC=gcc-3.4" make-kpkg --revision 2.6-v2.6.17 
-us -uc --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot  kernel-image
  436   MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4  HOSTCC=gcc-3.4" make-kpkg --revision 2.6-v2.6.17 
-us -uc --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot  kernel-image
  439   MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4  HOSTCC=gcc-3.4" make-kpkg --revision 
2.6-2.6.17-fjh -us -uc --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot  kernel-image
  440   MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4  HOSTCC=gcc-3.4" make-kpkg --revision 
2.6-1.v2.6.17 -us -uc --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot  kernel-image


I do not have debian/changecontrol in a SCM system, so I lost track what was in 
it. Sorry.


The cmdline from my previous email

MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4 HOSTCC=gcc-3.4" make-kpkg --append-to-version 2.6.17 
--revision 2.6-1.gitbisect -us -uc --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image', 

works in fact. I discouvered this 20 minutes after sending out my
email. The only drawback is, that it created

linux-image-2.6.172.6.17_2.6-1.gitbisect_i386.deb

which is a strange looking name.


dpkg -l gives:


ii  linux-image-2.6.172.6.17 2.6-1.gitbisect
  Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.172.6.17






I noticed too, that the beginning of a line in debian/changecontrol
was modified by make-kpkg


linux-source-2.6.172.6.17 (2.6-1.gitbisect) unstable; urgency=low
^

and was something different in my editor. Is this as expected?

I think I can work with the current approach. But I still feel
slightly confused.

regards
  Frank


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Re: (GNOME?) Logout Problem

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:47:54 -0500
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > After yesterday's xorg/x11 upgrade I am no longer able to log out
> > of GNOME using the logout button. If I want to switch
> > sessions/users I have to restart X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.
> > 
> > Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this? I wonder if
> > I'm the only one having this problem after the other day's update.

Have a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=305471

HTH,
Andrei
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debian [testing/etch] redirected broadcasts not working

[mabra]

Hi All!

I am struggling with ipfilters to redirect broadcast from the internet into
my LAN, which I need for Wake On LAN(WAN). I have just moved from NetBSD to
Debian and have set it up to be a router, which does well. I am new to
ipfilters, but I got all of my nat-based redirects of ports running, except
this one:

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXTIF -p udp --dport  -j DNAT --to
192.168.26.255

This is syntactically accepted by ipfilters, but there are no redirected
packages in the LAN, which I track with tcpdump. The packages reach my
public interface, but not more. In NetBSD, I had to set the kernel variable
"net.inet.ip.directed-broadcast" to allow the redirected broadcast. After
long serches, I discovered "net.ipv4.ip_echo_ignore_broadcasts" for Debian
from a posting. But if I try to set this variable, I get only "unknown key"
[I use "sysctl -w ...] as an error message.

Is this a limitation to the testing version, or am I completely wrong with
my attempt?
Any help would be great!

Best regards,
Manfred


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avidemux, ffmpeg and lavc

[Benjamí Villoslada]

Just I'm curious about lavc (mpeg4) codec in my Debian Sid:

I can't put lavc codec in -vcodec ffmpeg option

---
$ ffmpeg -i input.avi -sameq -vcodec lavc -acodec mp3 -f avi -s 400x240 
output.avi
[...]
Unknown codec 'lavc'
---

But avidemux makes mpeg4 (lavc) files.

I need any ffmpeg / mplayer library in order to use ffmpeg? 

What lavc library use avidemux? --I can't see avidemux encode operations with 
one 'ps ax'.

Thanks :)


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Re: [Debian-User] Xen and LVM

[Gilles Mocellin]

Le dimanche 18 février 2007 21:28, Archive a écrit :
[...]
> but my question to all reading this email
> is: "Why LVM"
[...]

The first two words :
1) merge
2) resize

1) Device block merging, everything, disks, RAID arrays
2) Online resizing of your logical volumes (slices of the previous merges)


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Re: tracking down software

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> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 14:41 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
>> Non-free has been non-existent (or empty) for quite some time now.
> 
> Are you thinking of non-us?

Ah, yes, good point.  Sorry.


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Re: tracking down software

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On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 14:41 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
> 
> Non-free has been non-existent (or empty) for quite some time now.

Are you thinking of non-us?

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Re: (GNOME?) Logout Problem

[Michael Pobega]

Update: I can no longer use the gdmflexiserver command to run multiple X 
sessions. I am thinking this is a problem with the recent X upgrade in Debian 
Etch. I get this error when I try to run gdmflexiserver

"Cannot start new display
There were errors trying to start the X server."

And now my Gnome Systray crashes whenever I try to logout/switch 
users/shutdown/restart (And the actions _don't_ happen, the logout/shutdown 
window freezes and eventually cancels out). I have to shutdown with /shutdown 
-h now/ as root in the terminal.

The sooner I can get this fixed the better, because it is really annoying me 
(Seeing as I *always* use the gdmflexiserver command to run multiple sessions, 
I find it extremely useful).


On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:48:41 -0500
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> After yesterday's xorg/x11 upgrade I am no longer able to log out of GNOME 
> using the logout button. If I want to switch sessions/users I have to restart 
> X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.
> 
> Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this? I wonder if I'm the only 
> one having this problem after the other day's update.
> 
> Debian Etch rc1
> 2.6.18-3-686 Kernel
> Xorg Version: 1:7.1.0-12
> 
> I'm not sure if you need to know anything else.


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Re: tracking down software

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> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:41:09 +
> andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib

Non-free has been non-existent (or empty) for quite some time now.

(I just noticed, thought, that I still have it in my sources.list.
Inertia, doncha know.)
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Re: Old Computer Parts

[hendrik]

On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 08:07:36AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote:
> Sorry, my ignorance.

Why sorry?  What better reason to ask the question?

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> Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/18/07 13:41, andy wrote:
> 
[snip]
> Thanks Ron

> In doing the searches I couldn't find the font group because I
> didn't realise I could apt-cache search times new roman
> 
> I've just learnt something new.

You think the question is s non-specific that you don't think to
look in your own back yard.

Been there, done that.
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Re: help with debian

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> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>  On 02/18/07 10:28, s. keeling wrote:
>>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  On 02/17/07 16:43, s. keeling wrote:
> boast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[snip]
> How's that Cajun of yours coming along?

Dunno.  Divorced her 16(?) years ago.

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VMware server & sound

[Jörg Becker]

Hello,

has anybody running VMware server & sound (with amd64)?

Error, when starting vm:
Failed to open sound device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
Virtual device sound will start disconnected.

What I've already done:
- installed vmwaredsp (1.3)
- made a symlink from /usr/lib/libvmdsp* to /usr/lib32/libvmdsp* to get rid of 
the "could not preload libvmdsp.so" error
- I checked to see the LD_PREOLAD in /proc/{vmware-thread}/environ and the 
libvmdsp.so in /proc/{vmware-thread}/maps, BUT I MISS THEM 
in  /proc/{vmware-vmx-thread}/
- tried many magic found in google, but given up now

Thanks for any suggestions,
Jörg

[Debian-User] Xen and LVM

[Archive]

I'm getting a lot of email on Xen which is nice so I am skipping names 
and just addressing issues.


Activating and installing LVM on SuSE is made very easy because of 
SuSE's YACC user interface. A year ago LVM was becoming very popular and 
apparently touted the ability to unify diverse and different network 
partitions into a single cohesive volume management system.  There was 
then and still is a lot of excitement over LVM. Unfortunately, that's 
all I know about LVM (the dust of excietement) but several people on 
this Debian list have recommended it's implementation with the Xen - 
Debian virtual system I will be implementing as soon as my fast wireless 
ISP connection becomes a reality.


Until recently the cold weather  here in Alberta, Canada was almost too 
much to bear.  My heating bill is hughmongous.  With the more moderate 
weather (even though stilll very cold) the wireless tower may see some 
progress towards completion and then the ISP can get me hooked up -- 
Bye, Bye, Telus dial up but up goes  the cost of using the internet.


But what does this weather have to do with LVM you ask.  Well there is a 
kind of connection between LVM and our cold weather.  First it's just 
too cold to think clearly.  I go out to walk the dog and after about 2 
minutes the cold is coming through my Eskimo type Parka, my gloves, my 
pants, and everything else you can imagine. Cold gets it's definition 
out here in the Northern half of Alberta, Canada. It's Arctic Cold, 
ruthless and windy. The second connection is a bit more solid.  Once my 
high speed interconnection to the Internet is active I will be in a 
better situation to host users coming from the Internet into my LAN to 
access some of the virtual servers I will be setting up.  In this 
respect LVM might have tremendous advantages and maybe some of you can 
explain those advantages to me -- that is, lets say the value of LVM 
when used with a database server used for educational purposes, or the 
value of LVM when used with a binary and source server with CGI perl 
interface handling the package calls and providing supportive 
information, or an Apache web server hosting my web site, or a PDF 
server providing technical papers on mathematics and physics, or a 
telnet and/or login to a server allowing users with permission to run 
Maxima, Maple, TI 89 simulation, Electronic Circuit design, and other 
packages.  Those were 4 examples of many more I hope to eventually get 
up and running. Also, some of these packages require different CPU 
architectures.  For example the TI 89 emulation and development uses the 
M68k architectures.  Imbedded microprocessors like the ARM series 
designed with special I/O test, and other functions involve a computer 
desk top GUI interface for example in the field of ROBOTICS.  General 
Information for the database server might involve languages and language 
translation, and so on.  So there is an obvious need for data 
management, data bases, etc., but my question to all reading this email 
is: "Why LVM"


So I am not arguing aginst LVM.  Those that use it and recommend it keep 
telling me I should plan on using it.  I will do that if these same 
people start explaining the features in way that makes sense to the 
kinds of things I have been talking about.  It's of little value to just 
do something because someone who knows more says it's the right thing to 
do.  That's kind of like inheriting a jet plane but not knowing how to 
fly it.  I need good hard facts and examples  or you will have to wait 
until my knowledge base catches up to you guys who know all about LVM.


Keep the comments coming and maybe we will increase the Xen enthusiasm 
and show just how well Xen fits or does not fit with these other 
technologies.


Snip out what you are not interested in and comment on what you know or 
want to know. Watch out for typos and spelling.

Thanks, Ted


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Re: Google no longer searches newsgroups?

[Kelly Clowers]

On 2/18/07, Roby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Looks like Google has dropped archive searches of newsgroups.
Anybody have any suggestions of what to use now?


They didn't drop it. Just click "more" (above the search bar) and then "groups".


Cheers,
Kelly


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Google no longer searches newsgroups?

[Roby]

Looks like Google has dropped archive searches of newsgroups.
Anybody have any suggestions of what to use now?



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Re: tracking down software

[andy]

Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:41:09 +
andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Hi

I am wanting to track down and install some fonts for OpenOffice.org
to use (specifically Times New Roman) and also flash-player plug-in
for Firefox/Iceweasel

Can someone steer me in the right direction please - as in which 
repository is likely to have these.



You need to enable contrib and non-free in your sources list. Something
like:

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib

(just add 'contrib' and 'non-free' to the end of your source)

Do an update and then install 'msttcorefonts' (this will install Times
New Roman and other MS fonts) and 'flashplugin-nonfree' (I think).

HTH,
Andrei
  
Thanks Andrei - have now downloaded and installed ... no sweat!! Isn't 
Debian so cool ;-)


Thanks

/A

Re: help with debian

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:45:10 GMT
"s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]

I think you are overreacting a bit. For people following the thread I
think it was pretty obvious what he meant and for people searching the
archives it would be the same, as they would have read the entire
thread at once.

It would have been better to quote a few lines, but the thread is still
fresh. It's not like he posted to an age-old thread, where context is
really important.

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: The success of an Etch

[Mikael Backman]

sön 2007-02-18 klockan 14:53 -0500 skrev Greg Folkert:
> On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 20:38 +0100, Mikael Backman wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Is there any way to get this CD-netinstaller onto a DVD? My computer
> > > > boots DVDs only...
> > > 
> > > So, you are telling me, that the DVD-Drive won't boot bootable CDS?
> > > 
> > > You have a broken BIOS or DVD drive. Period.
> > > 
> > > You should update your BIOS and/or DVD Firmware.
> > > 
> > > How do I know? I have been booting bootable CDs for years from DVD
> > > drives. And I mean multiple machines (and brands) and multiple brand
> > > DVDs.
> > 
> > Yea I know. The DVD is broken...  A new one costs over $200  (toshiba
> > laptop)
> 
> There are a plethora of DVD Firmware updates for older Toshibas (6
> months in age plus). Many of them address the "won't boot" from DVD (or
> R/RW) drive.
> 
> There are also a buncha firmware updates for the Laptops that also
> address BIOS problems with related to booting from CDs and DVDs.
> 
> So, I guess, I have to ask...
> 
>   Have you updated your BIOS and Firmware?

And I have to answer no..  I thought the hardware was broken...  But
 I'll give it at shot..  Thanxs..


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Re: tracking down software

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Hi

I am wanting to track down and install some fonts for OpenOffice.org to
use (specifically Times New Roman) and also flash-player plug-in for



$  apt-cache search times new roman | sort
linux-libertine - The Linux Libertine family of free fonts
msttcorefonts - Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts
texlive-lang-greek - TeX Live: Greek typesetting
texlive-latex-extra - TeX Live: LaTeX supplementary packages
tipa - System for processing phonetic symbols in LaTeX

  

Firefox/Iceweasel



$ apt-cache search adobe flash
flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer

  

Can someone steer me in the right direction please - as in which
repository is likely to have these.



Sometimes, all you've got to do is search the *Debian* repository.

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Thanks Ron

In doing the searches I couldn't find the font group because I didn't 
realise I could apt-cache search times new roman


I've just learnt something new.

Thanks

/A

Re: ALT key doesn't work as before

[Manu Hack]

On 2/18/07, Manu Hack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 2/18/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try running gnome-keybinding-properties and set alt to open the menu. That 
should work for controlling all GTK apps in KDE, hopefully (I'm not 100% sure on 
this, I'm a GNOME user myself).

Still no luck on this one.  When I run gnome-keybinding-properties,
all the fonts of gtk applications change.  Maybe there is something
that was not sourced when I started X?




Would like to add some more information on the problem.  If I use ssh
to run gvim of a remote machine, I can use the alt mapping but not on
the gvim on my machine.


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Re: tracking down software

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:41:09 +
andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I am wanting to track down and install some fonts for OpenOffice.org
> to use (specifically Times New Roman) and also flash-player plug-in
> for Firefox/Iceweasel
> 
> Can someone steer me in the right direction please - as in which 
> repository is likely to have these.

You need to enable contrib and non-free in your sources list. Something
like:

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib

(just add 'contrib' and 'non-free' to the end of your source)

Do an update and then install 'msttcorefonts' (this will install Times
New Roman and other MS fonts) and 'flashplugin-nonfree' (I think).

HTH,
Andrei
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Re: The success of an Etch

[Greg Folkert]

On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 20:38 +0100, Mikael Backman wrote:
> > > 
> > > Is there any way to get this CD-netinstaller onto a DVD? My computer
> > > boots DVDs only...
> > 
> > So, you are telling me, that the DVD-Drive won't boot bootable CDS?
> > 
> > You have a broken BIOS or DVD drive. Period.
> > 
> > You should update your BIOS and/or DVD Firmware.
> > 
> > How do I know? I have been booting bootable CDs for years from DVD
> > drives. And I mean multiple machines (and brands) and multiple brand
> > DVDs.
> 
> Yea I know. The DVD is broken...  A new one costs over $200  (toshiba
> laptop)

There are a plethora of DVD Firmware updates for older Toshibas (6
months in age plus). Many of them address the "won't boot" from DVD (or
R/RW) drive.

There are also a buncha firmware updates for the Laptops that also
address BIOS problems with related to booting from CDs and DVDs.

So, I guess, I have to ask...

Have you updated your BIOS and Firmware?
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On 02/18/07 13:41, andy wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am wanting to track down and install some fonts for OpenOffice.org to
> use (specifically Times New Roman) and also flash-player plug-in for

$  apt-cache search times new roman | sort
linux-libertine - The Linux Libertine family of free fonts
msttcorefonts - Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts
texlive-lang-greek - TeX Live: Greek typesetting
texlive-latex-extra - TeX Live: LaTeX supplementary packages
tipa - System for processing phonetic symbols in LaTeX

> Firefox/Iceweasel

$ apt-cache search adobe flash
flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer

> Can someone steer me in the right direction please - as in which
> repository is likely to have these.

Sometimes, all you've got to do is search the *Debian* repository.

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Re: help with debian

[s. keeling]

Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  On 02/18/07 10:28, s. keeling wrote:
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>  On 02/17/07 16:43, s. keeling wrote:
> >>> boast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   thanks. It was "syslog2mysql.sh"
> >>  See what you get for using MySQL?
> >>
> >>> WTF are you talking about?!?
> >>  Steve, has the cold, Quebec (or is it Ontario, I keep forgetting)
> >>  wind frozen your brain?
> > 
> > Clueless luser "boasty" posts an answer (to what?!?), providing no
> > context, quoting no-one or anything, prefaced by a useless and
> > inappropriate Subject: line ...
> 
>  Google is your friend.
> 
>  http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/syslog-ng.htm

This is not "The Web."  This is a mailing list, and a gated to Usenet
mailing list for me.  I don't read this list in a browser, nor should
I have to.  There's lots of resources out there where people can go to
learn how it should be done.  I doubt many of them _expect_ me to have
to dig back into archives in order to learn the context of a clueless
luser's inadequate reply.

> > "boasty" apparently doesn't know how ridiculous this looks.  Now
> > that it's brought to his attention, he has an opportunity to learn.
> 
>  Other people were able to decipher his OP.

As I could have too.  This is a mailing list or newsfroup, not a web
forum.

> > Just doing my bit in the war on entropy.
> 
>  No, just making yourself look like a bitter old Quebecois.

And you're helping the idiots out there corrupt what works well and
has worked well for quite some time.  You want to read a web forum, go
find one.  This is not it.

How's that Cajun of yours coming along?


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Re: make-kpgp && git-bisect

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:04:50 +0100, Frank Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:  

> But I failed now several times at the end of the process. Could
> someone help me with the parameter --append-to-version XX --revision
> 2.6-1.gitbisect YY and the strings in debian/changecontrol ZZ?

Can you post the error message?

manoj

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tracking down software

[andy]

Hi

I am wanting to track down and install some fonts for OpenOffice.org to 
use (specifically Times New Roman) and also flash-player plug-in for 
Firefox/Iceweasel


Can someone steer me in the right direction please - as in which 
repository is likely to have these.


Thanks

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Re: The success of an Etch

[Mikael Backman]

> > Is there any way to get this CD-netinstaller onto a DVD? My computer
> > boots DVDs only...
> > 
> > 
> What happens if you try to burn the image onto a DVD?  Other than the
> obvious waste of space (cd wastes space too)?
> 
> 
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> 
I haven't tried.. Could it be that simple?


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Re: The success of an Etch

[Mikael Backman]

> > 
> > Is there any way to get this CD-netinstaller onto a DVD? My computer
> > boots DVDs only...
> 
> So, you are telling me, that the DVD-Drive won't boot bootable CDS?
> 
> You have a broken BIOS or DVD drive. Period.
> 
> You should update your BIOS and/or DVD Firmware.
> 
> How do I know? I have been booting bootable CDs for years from DVD
> drives. And I mean multiple machines (and brands) and multiple brand
> DVDs.

Yea I know. The DVD is broken...  A new one costs over $200  (toshiba
laptop)


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Re: No network after Kernel upgrade

[Frank McCormick]

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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:23:09 -0500
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 02:12:47PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote:
> >Two questions : can hotplug and udev co-exist ? and 2) is kernel
> > 2.6.8 now deprecated ? Not a serious situation because 2.6.18 is
> > fine as far as I can see.


> With the upgrade to 2.6.18, udev is now standard. Udev incorporates
> the functionality of hotplug and thus is no longer a seperate
> package. You now can investiage writing udev rules. See the udev
> documentaion for more info. And the upgrade to 2.6.18 is one-way, so
> the old kernel will not work correctly. Well I'm someone could create
> a custom kernel and hack a solution but that would not be a useful
> endever as long as you plan to stick with the current Debian kernel.
> Anyway, onward and upward...


  That's what I suspected - I'll "aptitude purge" 2.6.8

  Thanks
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Re: no sound..

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:48:47 +0100
Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> To play mp3's you will need to have the "lame" package installed, at
> least I need that using the mhwaveedit player/editor.
> https://gna.org/projects/mhwaveedit/

Lame is for encoding (creating) not decoding (playing) mp3s.

> I'm not sure if lame is needed for Xmms. Another package worth

No it's not needed. I also prefer beep-media-player instead of xmms.

> looking at is mpg123.

Better the free replacement mpg321 (mpg123 is in the non-free section).
My favorite console player is moc.

Regards,
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Re: Woody on 486 problem

[Michael M.]

On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 21:36 +0100, Mirko Scurk wrote:

> It's shame that there is not a "normal" (non e-bay) supply channel for
> parts for some old architectures. Every other equipment manufacturers have
> obligations to continue to produce spare parts for years after some
> product have ended. Yesterday, brother in law called me and cried because
> his athlon xp socket A board died.


Here in Portland (OR, USA), there's a non-profit organization called [1]
Free Geek that recycles old computers.  Recycling, in this case,
involves rebuilding machines that are still usable and properly
disposing of equipment that is not ("properly," as in stripping out the
components that are harmful to the environment so they don't end up in
landfills).  They install Debian or Ubuntu on the rebuilt machines and
give them away to other non-profits and to volunteers.  They also have a
store where they sell spare parts (and some completely rebuilt
machines); it's a good local source to scour for older components, and
typically much less expensive than e-Bay or similar sources.  Many local
companies donate their old machines to Free Geek when they upgrade their
equipment, and individuals do as well.  Free Geek also does other
Linux-promoting stuff like offering cert courses, and it hosts our [2]
local user group's monthly Linux clinic.

IMO, it's a shame there aren't more organizations like Free Geek around.

[1] http://freegeek.org/
[2] http://www.pdxlinux.org/


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Re: No network after Kernel upgrade

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On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 02:12:47PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote:
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>Running Debian Etch - yesterday I aptitude'd the newest kernel
> 2.6.18 -3-686 which after adding Udev seems to be running fine. The
> problem is the old kernel 2.6.8 doesn't (can't) setup the network
> because hotplug is now gone. 
>Two questions : can hotplug and udev co-exist ? and 2) is kernel
> 2.6.8 now deprecated ? Not a serious situation because 2.6.18 is fine
> as far as I can see.
With the upgrade to 2.6.18, udev is now standard. Udev incorporates the
functionality of hotplug and thus is no longer a seperate package. You
now can investiage writing udev rules. See the udev documentaion for
more info. And the upgrade to 2.6.18 is one-way, so the old kernel will
not work correctly. Well I'm someone could create a custom kernel and
hack a solution but that would not be a useful endever as long as you
plan to stick with the current Debian kernel. Anyway, onward and
upward...
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Re: [SOLVED] Woody on 486 problem

[Kevin Mark]

On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 07:53:59PM +0100, Mirko Scurk wrote:
> Well, tried with custom kernel under slackware but with no luck. No way I
> could pass kernel parameters via lilo append. Each time I had to enter
> boot parameters at lilo prompt. It wasn't an option since I need this pc
> to boot without keyboard and mouse. But potato done just fine. Now
> everything is working. After that upgraded it to woody.
> 
> 
> Just for fun I installed xserver, fvwm95 and few applications.
> Enlightement was a little too much and so was mozilla-M18. Its running
> more then satisfactory: rxvt, xterm, nmap, wget, ftp, ted, siag-office,
> xpdf, dillo and even two servers sshd and thttpd.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It will be acting just as simple client behind firewall for testing purposes.
> 
> -- 
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Hi Mirko,
I think that you should definatley send a message to the debian-devel
list and tell them what you have done, I'm sure they'd get a big kick
out of it :-)
cheers,
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No network after Kernel upgrade

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   Running Debian Etch - yesterday I aptitude'd the newest kernel
2.6.18 -3-686 which after adding Udev seems to be running fine. The
problem is the old kernel 2.6.8 doesn't (can't) setup the network
because hotplug is now gone. 
   Two questions : can hotplug and udev co-exist ? and 2) is kernel
2.6.8 now deprecated ? Not a serious situation because 2.6.18 is fine
as far as I can see.


Cheers

Frank



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Re: sound problems on debian

[Steve Kleene]

I also have no sound with a recent etch install and an onboard Intel sound
card.  If I play a test sound with aplay or mplayer, I get no sound and no
errors.  I did run alsaconf.  Sound works OK on the same machine booted to
the XP partition.  Some specs of my etch system are at the bottom.

On Mon Feb 12 06:48:27 2007, steef wrote

> ... get the newest alsa-drivers (1.0.14) from their site and the
> alsa-libs and alsa-utils (2).
>
> compile the drivers as root into a (new) directory /usr/src/alsa (3) and
> install snd-hhda-intel into your kernel  (4) (i assume a 2.6.x.y kernel)
> compile and install as root alsa-libs and als-utils in your
> home-directory (5). that should do the trick.

I'd rather not do this much manual installation, because I'll have to
manually uninstall all of it when a new deb-file version appears.  So I may
just wait.  Alsa 1.0.14 is not yet in unstable.

I'm wondering, though, if my sound problem may be something else anyway.
When I boot, I get this two-line error repeated quite a few times:

  hda_codec:  num_steps = 0 for NID=0x17
  amixer: Mixer hw:0 load error: Invalid argument

Do I just need alsa 1.0.14, or does this indicate some other problem?
Thanks.

-
Some specs for the etch setup:

/etc/modprobe.d/sound
  alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
  options snd-hda-intel index=0

/proc/asound/version
  Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.12rc1 (Thu Jun 22 
13:55:50 2006 UTC)

/proc/asound/cards
  0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
   HDA Intel at 0x9020 irq 58

/proc/asound/modules
  0 snd_hda_intel

/dev/sndstat
  Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.12rc1 emulation code)
  Kernel: Linux drx 2.6.18-3-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 16:41:14 UTC 2006 i686
  Config options: 0

  Installed drivers:
  Type 10: ALSA emulation

  Card config:
  HDA Intel at 0x9020 irq 58

  Audio devices:
  0: STAC92xx Analog (DUPLEX)

  Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

  Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

  Timers:
  7: system timer

  Mixers:
  0: SigmaTel STAC9227

lsmod (sound-related modules)
  snd_hda_intel  17332  0
  snd_hda_codec 137856  1 snd_hda_intel
  snd_pcm_oss38368  0
  snd_mixer_oss  15200  1 snd_pcm_oss
  snd_pcm68644  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
  snd_timer  20996  1 snd_pcm
  snd47012  7 
snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
  soundcore   9248  1 snd
  snd_page_alloc  9640  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm

uname -a
  Linux foobar 2.6.18-3-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 16:41:14 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux

Under /proc/asound/card0 were 3 files (codec#2, id, and oss_mixer) and 3
  directories (pcm0c, pcm0p, pcm1c, and pcm1p).  There were 33 more files
  under these directories.  All 36 files were 0 bytes.


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[SOLVED] Woody on 486 problem

[Mirko Scurk]

Well, tried with custom kernel under slackware but with no luck. No way I
could pass kernel parameters via lilo append. Each time I had to enter
boot parameters at lilo prompt. It wasn't an option since I need this pc
to boot without keyboard and mouse. But potato done just fine. Now
everything is working. After that upgraded it to woody.


Just for fun I installed xserver, fvwm95 and few applications.
Enlightement was a little too much and so was mozilla-M18. Its running
more then satisfactory: rxvt, xterm, nmap, wget, ftp, ted, siag-office,
xpdf, dillo and even two servers sshd and thttpd.






It will be acting just as simple client behind firewall for testing purposes.

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Re: no sound..

[Nigel Henry]

On Sunday 18 February 2007 18:28, Mikael Backman wrote:
> sön 2007-02-18 klockan 16:40 +0100 skrev Nigel Henry:
> > On Saturday 17 February 2007 21:31, Mikael Backman wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 17 February 2007 18:00, Mikael Backman wrote:
> > > > > I use Debian Stable. Everything seems ok..  The sound card is
> > > > > detected.. I've rune alsaconf..  Used alsamixer to adjust the
> > > > > voloume.. It's just that there is no sound. Not a beep :(
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
> > > 0 [I82801DBICH4   ]: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
> > >  Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at 0xcfdffe00, irq
> > > 11
> > > 1 [Modem  ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Modem
> > >  Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Modem at 0xba00, irq 11
> > >
> > > This irq 11 hangs the cumputer whwn I boot sometimes..
> >
> > Sorry for the delay in replying. I booted up Sarge to see how I had the
> > sound set up, and got distracted.
> >
> > Your lsmod looks ok, but I see on my Sarge install I have 2 OSS modules
> > in /etc/hotplug/blacklist. Some older kernels still had the OSS modules
> > "audio" , and "usb_midi" in them, and it was necessary to blacklist them
> > to prevent them being loaded. If you run.
> > cat /proc/asound/oss/sndstat   you should see 2 lines saying something
> > like.
> >
> > Installed drivers:
> > Type 10: ALSA emulation
> >
> > If there are no such lines, OSS is being used.
> >
> > Also run lsmod to see if "audio" , and "usb_midi" are on the list.  If
> > they are, su to root on the CLI, and with a text editor add both those
> > modules on separate lines to /etc/hotplug/blacklist  without the quotes.
> >
> > I must say I'm a bit short on ideas when it comes to laptops, as many of
> > them have really cheapo soundcards, and some of which just don't seem to
> > want to work on Linux.
> >
> > Anyway have a look for those 2 OSS modules. At least will eliminate
> > something else.
> >
> > Nigel.
>
>  I tried yesterday to change the kernel to 2.6.8-3 as I had no clue..
> It worked in a way. The sound system is functional now.. Sort of. I get
> the sound effects in gnome..  But alas no sound in the java online game
> I love to play ( www.runescape.com)  I tried to play  mp3-files in XMMS
> but it hang...  But these are maybe entirely differnet issues?

To play mp3's you will need to have the "lame" package installed, at least I 
need that using the mhwaveedit player/editor.
https://gna.org/projects/mhwaveedit/

To compile it you need to have libsndfile-dev, and libsamplerate-dev 
installed, obviously lame as well if you want to play mp3's. 

To get the lame package you will need packages from.
http://debian-multimedia.org/

Add to /etc/apt/sources.list  
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main

Now go to http://debian-multimedia.org/  , and go to the FAQ's menu. You can 
download the gpg key here which verifies the packages.

To install the key if you downloaded it to your /home/user directory, just do.
gpg --import gpgkey.pub

I'm not sure if lame is needed for Xmms. Another package worth looking at is 
mpg123.

I'm looking at all these packages with synaptic.

sorry. I don't anything about sounds on games, as I'm not a gamer.

Nigel.

Re: ALT key doesn't work as before

[Manu Hack]

On 2/18/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Try running gnome-keybinding-properties and set alt to open the menu. That 
should work for controlling all GTK apps in KDE, hopefully (I'm not 100% sure 
on this, I'm a GNOME user myself).


Still no luck on this one.  When I run gnome-keybinding-properties,
all the fonts of gtk applications change.  Maybe there is something
that was not sourced when I started X?


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Re: The success of an Etch

[Greg Folkert]

On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 18:56 +0100, Mikael Backman wrote:
> sön 2007-02-18 klockan 12:48 -0500 skrev Kevin Mark:
> > On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:14:08AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > > Last night I downloaded the latest daily snapshot of the Etch installer
> > > for i386 from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and chose
> > > the net-install image.  Upon booting I pressed F1 for more options and
> > > then one of the others (F3?) for boot options and found that
> > > "installgui" would start the GUI installer.
> > One of the use cases for the gui installer aka g-i was the need to
> > address installation in certain non-english languages. Now folks who
> > speak some popular indic languages can install Debian in their native
> > language. woot!  And some of the installer question were removed and
> > made into defaults so that users didn't need to answer un-needed
> > question. As you found out, a vast imporvment was made to the process
> > when compared to boot-floppies :-) As for the progress bar, I'm sure a
> > wishlist bug might help there.
> 
> Is there any way to get this CD-netinstaller onto a DVD? My computer
> boots DVDs only...

So, you are telling me, that the DVD-Drive won't boot bootable CDS?

You have a broken BIOS or DVD drive. Period.

You should update your BIOS and/or DVD Firmware.

How do I know? I have been booting bootable CDs for years from DVD
drives. And I mean multiple machines (and brands) and multiple brand
DVDs.
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Re: editing avi files

[Stephen Cormier]

On February 18, 2007 02:05:49 pm pol wrote:
> How to edit video files (especially avi files)
> to select a short piece from the whole?
>
> thanks
>
> --
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Try installing the avidemux package it is fairly easy to use, you need a line 
like the one below changing the sid in the line to the release of Debian you 
use.


## Various Multimedia Helper Apps Mplayer, Real, w32codecs, etc.. ##
deb http://debian-multimedia.org sid main

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Re: new installation : cannot login

[andy]

Joe Hart wrote:

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andy wrote:
  

Hi all

I have just installed Deb Etch onto my wife's computer, preserving her
pre-existing /home directory.

The installation was flawless until I went to go and login as her and am
being denied access at the gdm login screen. The messages refer to the
$HOME/.dmrc saying that it will be ignored, and that the $HOME directory
must be owned by the user and have 644 permissions and not writable by
other users. Click OK and then I get a dialog box informing me that my
session lasted less than 10 seconds. When I look at the
~/.xsession-errors file I am informed that it cannot create the per-user
gnome configuration directory .gnome2_private: permission denied.

In a word: help!
Did I do something wrong or did I skip out a step? When I installed my
Debian system I didn't try and preserve a pre-existing /home directory.
I am scared of fiddling just in case I toast her data (in which case,
I'll be toast!!).

Any ideas please?

Cheers

/A




Andy, don't despair. the data is still there.

Most likely it is either a userid problem or a permissions problem.

Log in from a tty (alt-F1 for example) as root.

Depending on which distro you ran before, it could be a userid problem.
 Debian users begin at userid 1000 but not all do.  Mandriva for example
begins with 500.  If you're root and do a ls -la /home you should see
the owners, if it's a number and not a name, that's your clue.  In that
case you need to change the owner of her /home directory to her with the
chown command.  If the permissions are wrong, you can change them with
the chmod command.


Good luck.

Joe

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Thanks man - you are a bacon saver!!
I did as you suggested and discovered that it was all 500, so chown'd 
the directory and have now logged in


Thanks so much Joe

Much appreciated

/A

Re: no sound..

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun February 18 2007 09:28, Mikael Backman wrote:
> sön 2007-02-18 klockan 16:40 +0100 skrev Nigel Henry:
> > On Saturday 17 February 2007 21:31, Mikael Backman wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 17 February 2007 18:00, Mikael Backman wrote:
> > > > > I use Debian Stable. Everything seems ok..  The sound card is
> > > > > detected.. I've rune alsaconf..  Used alsamixer to adjust the
> > > > > voloume.. It's just that there is no sound. Not a beep :(
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
> > > 0 [I82801DBICH4   ]: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
> > >  Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at 0xcfdffe00, irq
> > > 11
> > > 1 [Modem  ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Modem
> > >  Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Modem at 0xba00, irq 11
> > >
> > > This irq 11 hangs the cumputer whwn I boot sometimes..
> >
> > Sorry for the delay in replying. I booted up Sarge to see how I had the
> > sound set up, and got distracted.
> >
> > Your lsmod looks ok, but I see on my Sarge install I have 2 OSS modules
> > in /etc/hotplug/blacklist. Some older kernels still had the OSS modules
> > "audio" , and "usb_midi" in them, and it was necessary to blacklist them
> > to prevent them being loaded. If you run.
> > cat /proc/asound/oss/sndstat   you should see 2 lines saying something
> > like.
> >
> > Installed drivers:
> > Type 10: ALSA emulation
> >
> > If there are no such lines, OSS is being used.
> >
> > Also run lsmod to see if "audio" , and "usb_midi" are on the list.  If
> > they are, su to root on the CLI, and with a text editor add both those
> > modules on separate lines to /etc/hotplug/blacklist  without the quotes.
> >
> > I must say I'm a bit short on ideas when it comes to laptops, as many of
> > them have really cheapo soundcards, and some of which just don't seem to
> > want to work on Linux.
> >
> > Anyway have a look for those 2 OSS modules. At least will eliminate
> > something else.
> >
> > Nigel.
>
>  I tried yesterday to change the kernel to 2.6.8-3 as I had no clue..
> It worked in a way. The sound system is functional now.. Sort of. I get
> the sound effects in gnome..  But alas no sound in the java online game
> I love to play ( www.runescape.com)  I tried to play  mp3-files in XMMS
> but it hang...  But these are maybe entirely differnet issues?

Sounds like they may be. When I run gnome I install libesd-alsa0. I'm not sure 
why but I have better luck that way.

Also when I run xmms on gnome I change the output plugin to alsa and it seems 
to work better. When running kde I use the arts output plugin.

Re: new installation : cannot login

[Joe Hart]

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andy wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I have just installed Deb Etch onto my wife's computer, preserving her
> pre-existing /home directory.
> 
> The installation was flawless until I went to go and login as her and am
> being denied access at the gdm login screen. The messages refer to the
> $HOME/.dmrc saying that it will be ignored, and that the $HOME directory
> must be owned by the user and have 644 permissions and not writable by
> other users. Click OK and then I get a dialog box informing me that my
> session lasted less than 10 seconds. When I look at the
> ~/.xsession-errors file I am informed that it cannot create the per-user
> gnome configuration directory .gnome2_private: permission denied.
> 
> In a word: help!
> Did I do something wrong or did I skip out a step? When I installed my
> Debian system I didn't try and preserve a pre-existing /home directory.
> I am scared of fiddling just in case I toast her data (in which case,
> I'll be toast!!).
> 
> Any ideas please?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> /A
> 
> 
Andy, don't despair. the data is still there.

Most likely it is either a userid problem or a permissions problem.

Log in from a tty (alt-F1 for example) as root.

Depending on which distro you ran before, it could be a userid problem.
 Debian users begin at userid 1000 but not all do.  Mandriva for example
begins with 500.  If you're root and do a ls -la /home you should see
the owners, if it's a number and not a name, that's your clue.  In that
case you need to change the owner of her /home directory to her with the
chown command.  If the permissions are wrong, you can change them with
the chmod command.


Good luck.

Joe

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Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

> 2007/2/15, Siju George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >Could some one recommend which File System is best for partitions above 
> >600GB?
> >I am considering XFS. The System is Debian Sarge for amd64.
> >Hope there are no issues with this setup. please let me know if i
> >should be careful in any area.
> >Also if a better file system suits for such large partitions :-)

On 15.02.07 13:13, Sergio Cuéllar Valdés wrote:
> maybe you should read about LVM [1]. It is not about file systems, but
> it can help you :)

he asked about filesystem. I don't understand this - why do you recommend
using LVM when a user asks for filesystem?

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Re: The success of an Etch

[Joe Hart]

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Mikael Backman wrote:
> sön 2007-02-18 klockan 12:48 -0500 skrev Kevin Mark:
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:14:08AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>>> Last night I downloaded the latest daily snapshot of the Etch installer
>>> for i386 from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and chose
>>> the net-install image.  Upon booting I pressed F1 for more options and
>>> then one of the others (F3?) for boot options and found that
>>> "installgui" would start the GUI installer.
>> One of the use cases for the gui installer aka g-i was the need to
>> address installation in certain non-english languages. Now folks who
>> speak some popular indic languages can install Debian in their native
>> language. woot!  And some of the installer question were removed and
>> made into defaults so that users didn't need to answer un-needed
>> question. As you found out, a vast imporvment was made to the process
>> when compared to boot-floppies :-) As for the progress bar, I'm sure a
>> wishlist bug might help there.
> 
> Is there any way to get this CD-netinstaller onto a DVD? My computer
> boots DVDs only...
> 
> 
What happens if you try to burn the image onto a DVD?  Other than the
obvious waste of space (cd wastes space too)?


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editing avi files

[pol]

How to edit video files (especially avi files) 
to select a short piece from the whole?

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new installation : cannot login

[andy]

Hi all

I have just installed Deb Etch onto my wife's computer, preserving her 
pre-existing /home directory.


The installation was flawless until I went to go and login as her and am 
being denied access at the gdm login screen. The messages refer to the 
$HOME/.dmrc saying that it will be ignored, and that the $HOME directory 
must be owned by the user and have 644 permissions and not writable by 
other users. Click OK and then I get a dialog box informing me that my 
session lasted less than 10 seconds. When I look at the 
~/.xsession-errors file I am informed that it cannot create the per-user 
gnome configuration directory .gnome2_private: permission denied.


In a word: help!
Did I do something wrong or did I skip out a step? When I installed my 
Debian system I didn't try and preserve a pre-existing /home directory. 
I am scared of fiddling just in case I toast her data (in which case, 
I'll be toast!!).


Any ideas please?

Cheers

/A


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Re: The success of an Etch

[Mikael Backman]

sön 2007-02-18 klockan 12:48 -0500 skrev Kevin Mark:
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:14:08AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > Last night I downloaded the latest daily snapshot of the Etch installer
> > for i386 from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and chose
> > the net-install image.  Upon booting I pressed F1 for more options and
> > then one of the others (F3?) for boot options and found that
> > "installgui" would start the GUI installer.
> One of the use cases for the gui installer aka g-i was the need to
> address installation in certain non-english languages. Now folks who
> speak some popular indic languages can install Debian in their native
> language. woot!  And some of the installer question were removed and
> made into defaults so that users didn't need to answer un-needed
> question. As you found out, a vast imporvment was made to the process
> when compared to boot-floppies :-) As for the progress bar, I'm sure a
> wishlist bug might help there.

Is there any way to get this CD-netinstaller onto a DVD? My computer
boots DVDs only...


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Re: Clamav Warnings

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

> >> On Thu February 15 2007 06:28, David Baron wrote:
> >> > WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED!
> >> > WARNING: Current functionality level = 12, recommended = 13

> >I'm pulling from volatile and got the message saying that my
> >clamav-milter is out of date.

On 16.02.07 09:49, Mankuthimma wrote:
> Even I'd a similar problem even while pulling from Volatile. But, i
> guess clamav contacts clamav.net to find out the current
> version/functionality levels (IOW, the parameters could be hardcoded).
> And since even volatile lags upstream by a couple of days atleast,
> clamav complains.
> 
> Try upgrading Clamav and the messages should go away.

it will not. There is new release of clamav available (0.90) and every older
version will print this message. You need to wait until it's packaged. I am
not sure it will be put into volatile - maybe volatile-sloppy, because of
incompatible config file. I am not sure though, maybe it will be pushed
after etsh is out...
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Re: The success of an Etch

[Kevin Mark]

On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:14:08AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Last night I downloaded the latest daily snapshot of the Etch installer
> for i386 from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and chose
> the net-install image.  Upon booting I pressed F1 for more options and
> then one of the others (F3?) for boot options and found that
> "installgui" would start the GUI installer.
One of the use cases for the gui installer aka g-i was the need to
address installation in certain non-english languages. Now folks who
speak some popular indic languages can install Debian in their native
language. woot!  And some of the installer question were removed and
made into defaults so that users didn't need to answer un-needed
question. As you found out, a vast imporvment was made to the process
when compared to boot-floppies :-) As for the progress bar, I'm sure a
wishlist bug might help there.
 
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Re: no sound..

[Mikael Backman]

sön 2007-02-18 klockan 16:40 +0100 skrev Nigel Henry:
> On Saturday 17 February 2007 21:31, Mikael Backman wrote:
> 
> > > On Saturday 17 February 2007 18:00, Mikael Backman wrote:
> > > > I use Debian Stable. Everything seems ok..  The sound card is
> > > > detected.. I've rune alsaconf..  Used alsamixer to adjust the voloume..
> > > >  It's just that there is no sound. Not a beep :(
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
> > 0 [I82801DBICH4   ]: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
> >  Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at 0xcfdffe00, irq
> > 11
> > 1 [Modem  ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Modem
> >  Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Modem at 0xba00, irq 11
> >
> > This irq 11 hangs the cumputer whwn I boot sometimes..
> 
> Sorry for the delay in replying. I booted up Sarge to see how I had the sound 
> set up, and got distracted.
> 
> Your lsmod looks ok, but I see on my Sarge install I have 2 OSS modules 
> in /etc/hotplug/blacklist. Some older kernels still had the OSS modules 
> "audio" , and "usb_midi" in them, and it was necessary to blacklist them to 
> prevent them being loaded. If you run.
> cat /proc/asound/oss/sndstat   you should see 2 lines saying something like.
> 
> Installed drivers:
> Type 10: ALSA emulation
> 
> If there are no such lines, OSS is being used.
> 
> Also run lsmod to see if "audio" , and "usb_midi" are on the list.  If they 
> are, su to root on the CLI, and with a text editor add both those modules on 
> separate lines to /etc/hotplug/blacklist  without the quotes.
> 
> I must say I'm a bit short on ideas when it comes to laptops, as many of them 
> have really cheapo soundcards, and some of which just don't seem to want to 
> work on Linux.
> 
> Anyway have a look for those 2 OSS modules. At least will eliminate something 
> else.
> 
> Nigel.
> 
> 
> 

 I tried yesterday to change the kernel to 2.6.8-3 as I had no clue..
It worked in a way. The sound system is functional now.. Sort of. I get
the sound effects in gnome..  But alas no sound in the java online game
I love to play ( www.runescape.com)  I tried to play  mp3-files in XMMS
but it hang...  But these are maybe entirely differnet issues?


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Re: autofs and /home/home

[Michael Pobega]

Couldn't you just edit the /etc/fstab? Maybe I'm missing something but if you 
put an entry for your device in the /etc/fstab it should automatically mount it 
and put it in the right folder.

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:10:43 -0500
Kenneth Jacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Config:  Debian/etch
> 
> I can't seem to figure out a *very* simple automount configuration
> (I've done this before, but it was over two years ago :-( ).
> 
> After much work (and not enough understanding!), I have succeed in
> automounting a remote /home directory on a local client using
> 'autofs'.
> 
> Unfortunately, the mounted directory on the client is under /home/home
> instead of /home.
> 
> Here are the two key lines on the client:
> 
>   /etc/auto.master:
>   /home   /etc/auto.misc  --timeout 60
> 
>   /etc/auto.misc:
>   home-fstype=nfs,hard,intr   1.2.3.4:/home
> 
> 
> Can someone help me to have the remote /home on the server show up as
> just /home on the client?
> 
> Any other suggestions and/or comments are most welcomed ...
> 
> Thanks!
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The success of an Etch

[Nate Bargmann]

Last night I downloaded the latest daily snapshot of the Etch installer
for i386 from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and chose
the net-install image.  Upon booting I pressed F1 for more options and
then one of the others (F3?) for boot options and found that
"installgui" would start the GUI installer.

My impression?  Good stuff!

This thing Just Works!  I was prompted for the usual information and it
took care of the rest.  No fiddling with sound or X.  Upon a reboot I
was greated with GDM and was able to log into GNOME (not my preference,
but it worked right out of the box).  The update icon on the GNOME
panel is a nice touch.

I've since added KDE, Firehol, Audacious and Midnight Commander (this
will be a minimal use machine in my garage for entertainment while
working on bikes and stuff).

There are always a couple of nits to pick, but this process was free of
all but one, when the installer is downloading the package lists from
the mirror site, no progress or any sort of indicator of activity is
shown.  A new user might assume the installer has locked up and give up
if he doesn't look at the network activity light.  Other than that, I
don't see how an operating system install could be much simpler.

Good job to all involved!  This is a major step forward from the floppy
shuffle I did using net-install back in 1999 (note that I don't install
Debian very often ;-) ).

- Nate >>

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autofs and /home/home

[Kenneth Jacker]

Config:  Debian/etch

I can't seem to figure out a *very* simple automount configuration
(I've done this before, but it was over two years ago :-( ).

After much work (and not enough understanding!), I have succeed in
automounting a remote /home directory on a local client using
'autofs'.

Unfortunately, the mounted directory on the client is under /home/home
instead of /home.

Here are the two key lines on the client:

  /etc/auto.master:
  /home   /etc/auto.misc  --timeout 60

  /etc/auto.misc:
  home-fstype=nfs,hard,intr   1.2.3.4:/home


Can someone help me to have the remote /home on the server show up as
just /home on the client?

Any other suggestions and/or comments are most welcomed ...

Thanks!
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Re: [Debian-User] re: Network Install

[David E. Fox]

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:55:44 -0700
Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   I download a 128MB network installer iso so that I could use it to 
> download binariy and source files one at a time from over the internet. 

Usually you only need binary packages, you don't need the sources unless
you want to compile your own stuff.

>  Being new to Debian I tried to understand this process and came to 
> understand that all binary files are considered to be a "package" sort 

Packages usually come with binary or source (hence binary or source
packages), documentation, info such as what dependancies are needed to
satisfy the install (for instance, a program may need to use library
routines that are in a library package, and/or source packeges would
need the development versions of these libraries, and so forth).


> In other words, I need a Debian system up and running (which I don't 
> have at the present time) and even then the packaged binaries and 
> sources will be unpacked and placed into the system. What I was after 

Yes, but you don't need the whole archive to install a basic system. As
other posters have indicated, the packages are sorted in popularity
order, such that most everything people want are on the first two or
three cd's. The diffiulty for you would be how to do afterinstall
"maintenance" - adding new pakages, upgrading, and so forth, which in
any event would be slow over a dialup connection. For most of the stuff
will be on a cdrom (or dvd) that you just add as a repository with
'apt-cdrom'. Some won't be, of course, depending on how many cd's you
need. 

> directed by some kind of menu.  This is fine, if that is how it happens, 
> but I want my own updateable archive  from which this "network 
> installer" can feed .

I don't see the point. The updates are fairly small differences to the
main chunk (or pool). Of course, small is relative. My last update on
etch (I normally do them weekly) was about 100 megabytes. That could
take about 10-12 hours to get over the modem. One of the posters
estimated the 'pool' (entire debian tree) as about 256 gigs. And you
don't need it -- or even want to store that much - since that's abour
45.5 DVDs. And it is as I understand it, stable/testing/unstable for
all the architecture (CPU types) that debian supports. You'd, for
instance, only need the i386 part of the pool.

What you probably want/need is the first snapshot DVD of the etch
(testing) distribution. I realize that you dislike snapshot releasws
but these days, etch is pretty polished, and if you use jigdo-lite you
master the image on say a dvd-rw, then run it again later, it will only
update the parts that have changed, and you write that back to the
dvd-rw. That's about the first 7 cd's, and it if used as an apt-cdrom
source, you can do the install off of it as well as add new packages
from it at a later date, without using the network. For your purposes,
I don't believe the netinstall CD would be the way to go, as it is too
small, and really intended for people who have a fast enough connection
that can get all the other stuff over the internet (or have a local
repository on their LAN, but of course, you have to populate that from
somewhere outside the LAN in the first place, so the point is moot if
you've only a dialup connection).

In other words, a local LAN repository would make sense in a university
or datacenter of a corporation, where you have a number of machines to
keep up to date.

> Python, Lisp, and many others;  It lookis like I would have to (separate 
> from the installer and separate from the FTP ) gather these binaries and 
> sources one at a time site by site.  Or have I got something very wrong???

Nearly everything you need would be part of the repository (of course,
there are several to choose from) so you don't have to go out and look
for them, unless:

* they are extremely new and you want the most current version, or

* they don't exist in the repositories (specialty or other stuff)


> Thanks Ted.


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make-kpgp && git-bisect

[Frank Hartmann]

Hello,

I am preparing to build a larger number of kernels using the
git-bisect method. I would like to find a bug introduced somewhere
between 2.6.17 and 2.6.19.2.

I would like to package these kernels with make-kpkg so that I can
install and remove them easily. 

I want to have a single package where different versions correspond to
different kernels, produced by git-bisect.

packagename-1 == v2.6.17
packagename-2 == v2.6.19.2
packagename-3 == somewhere in the middle


However I have problems using make-kpkg. It has some automatics inside
and enforces rules on debian packagenames/versions, which both are
unclear to me.

I am experimenting with stuff like:

MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4  HOSTCC=gcc-3.4" make-kpkg  --append-to-version  2.6.17 
--revision 2.6-1.gitbisect -us -uc --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot  kernel_image

But I failed now several times at the end of the process. Could
someone help me with the parameter --append-to-version XX --revision
2.6-1.gitbisect YY and the strings in debian/changecontrol ZZ?

Or should I address this differently?


regards
  Frank


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