Re: WEP??? (was Re: reliable wifi manager for gnome)

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/25/07 19:17, Micha Feigin wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:41:22 -0500
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On 05/25/07 18:25, Micha Feigin wrote:
> [snip]
 do ifdown wlan0 followed by a ifup wlan0 and it will sometimes work. In
 roaming mode it doesn't set the wep key at all.

 I am trying to convert my dad to linux and proper wifi is kind of the main
 must.
> Why are you inviting someone to (quickly!!) hack into your network?
> 
> 
>> I need a solution that works with both linux and the access point, can be
>> configured easily enough, will stop the next door guy from using my network 
>> (I
>> doubt I can stop anyone from actually breaking in if they really wanted to).
> 
>> Plus everything even inside the network is behind it's own firewall and if 
>> the
>> guy who wants to break in moves another 50m he will find ten more networks 
>> with
>> no protection at all (and another few guarded only be wep).

That's *their* responsibility, not yours!

Read this link.  Other factors indicate he was probably guilty, but
next time that might not be the case.
http://news.com.com/2100-1036_3-6177095.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_Equivalent_Privacy
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/24251/100/
At a recent ISSA (Information Systems Security
Association) meeting in Los Angeles, a team of FBI
agents demonstrated current WEP-cracking techniques
and broke a 128 bit WEP key in about three minutes.
[snip]
it should be noted there are numerous ways of hacking
into a wireless network. The FBI team used publicly
available tools and emphasized that they are demonstrating
an attack that many other people are capable of performing.

Modern tools have reduced that time to *seconds*.

>> I'll be happy to hear about a better solution (I don't have the time to catch
>> up on network security) and unrelated to the security issue, I need a wifi
>> management software that works (preferably with no more than entering the
>> network details the first time I want to connect).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPA2

Using WPA2 and AES in Personal mode with a *strong* passphrase
(which only has to be remembered *one* time) is the only way to go.
 Let the other guy's network be hijacked by "bad guys".

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Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/25/07 23:27, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
> Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri, 25
> May 2007 12:15:17 -0500
> 
> On 05/25/07 11:32, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote (portions deleted):
> 
>>  > have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's. Ubuntu Dapper Drake
> 
>>  > stalled with a KDE desk error.
> 
> RJ> What kind of error?
> 
> It halted with the beige screen of death with a small box saying KDE
> Desk Error if I remember correctly. At the time I was just seeing which
> CDROM would be successful while waiting for the replacement drive.

Argh, I mis-read desk for *disk*.

Never mind.

[snip]
> 
> Two vital questions are:
> 
> 1. How much RAM does the laptop have? Probably not much.
> 
> 128 MB (Since it is probably not much, I did set aside a 2 GB partition
> for a swap partition.)

Figured.  You'll need something lighter-weight than even Xfce (which
is based on getting-heavy GTK2 and leaks memory).  There have
recently been a couple of threads regarding people's preferences in
light-weight WMs.

Also, I prefer swap *files*, since they are more flexible.

> 2. How much experience do you have with Linux?
> 
> I have Debian Sarge running on a Gateway 500 Pentium III 500 MHZ which
> also dual boots via LILO into Windows 98SE.
> 
> I have Debian Etch which is sharing the box with Windows XP Pro dual
> booting under GRUB.

A little behind the times, no?

> That box has a Pentium 4 Prescott at 3.2 GHZ.

Ah, a space heater!

> I have enough experience to get good and lost!

Don't we all...

> RJ> Xubuntu might be good choice to install, even though you might then
> RJ> have to install a lighter-weight window manager.
> 
> As old as this equipment is, a light weight window manager such as xfce
> on top of Debian or Xubuntu may indeed be the way to go.

Hardware detection will be the tricky part, I think.  *buntu is
still better at it than straight Debian.

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Re: Remove gnome-games

[Mark Grieveson]

> What happens when gnome-desktop-environment will be broken. I never
> use it anyway. But IIRC I've read that some kde apps use some gnome
> stuff. So I don't know if I can safely remove gnome-games.

> I rather have gnome-desktop-environment removed completely, but I
> don't know what part or apps of kde will be broken then.

I've switched between gnome, kde, and xfce without difficulty.  If
you've been using aptitude consistently, it should not be a problem.
I would just go for it, and then if certain kde apps are also removed,
simply reinstall them (I doubt this would happen, though.)

If you've been mostly using kde, but relying on certain gnome
applications (IE, totem), this would be your chance to change them to
KDE applications to make your  system more purely KDE (IE, from totem
to kaffeine, from synaptic to adept, from gdm to kdm, etc).  KDE uses
qt based applications, whereas gnome uses gtk based applications.  

In summary, KDE does not rely on gnome-desktop-environment; so, just go
for it.

Good luck,

Mark 


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Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

[Gayle Lee Fairless]

Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri, 25 
May 2007 12:15:17 -0500


On 05/25/07 11:32, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote (portions deleted):


 > have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's. Ubuntu Dapper Drake



 > stalled with a KDE desk error.


RJ> What kind of error?

It halted with the beige screen of death with a small box saying KDE 
Desk Error if I remember correctly. At the time I was just seeing which 
CDROM would be successful while waiting for the replacement drive.


RJ> Have you correctly installed the replacement drive?

When I got the drive, I had to take it out of the caddy and flip it. 
Since Windows installed correctly without a problem, the physical drive 
installation is fine.



 > I've ordered a Belkin wireless USB adapter (g protocol). I have



 > not tested the internal modem yet but would want a faster connection. I


 > have a home network connected by ethernet and a Belkin wireless g 

router.


 > The network itself connects to the Internet through a Xoom DSL modem.


 > I have done network install of Debian etch to a desktop over my 

network.

 > Are there any special techniques or extra information that I have 

missed?


 > I can download iso images to my desktop and create CDROM's.


Two vital questions are:

1. How much RAM does the laptop have? Probably not much.

128 MB (Since it is probably not much, I did set aside a 2 GB partition 
for a swap partition.)


2. How much experience do you have with Linux?

I have Debian Sarge running on a Gateway 500 Pentium III 500 MHZ which 
also dual boots via LILO into Windows 98SE.


I have Debian Etch which is sharing the box with Windows XP Pro dual 
booting under GRUB.


That box has a Pentium 4 Prescott at 3.2 GHZ.

I have enough experience to get good and lost!

RJ> Xubuntu might be good choice to install, even though you might then

RJ> have to install a lighter-weight window manager.

As old as this equipment is, a light weight window manager such as xfce 
on top of Debian or Xubuntu may indeed be the way to go.


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Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Fri, 25 May 2007 19:56:18 +0200

JW> Debian woody 3.0 was released in 2002. It became obsolete by the release

JW> of 'sarge'. Now we have debian etch 4.0. Try to install etch.

JW> Your hardware probably is too old (ie. not powerful enough) to run KDE

JW> or gnome. Start out with a minimal install and add xfce4 or another

JW> light-weight window manager.

(duplicate paragraph deleted)

JW> I don't know if the installer for etch supports your modem. You might be

JW> better off to either download the first CD with another computer or buy

JW> a set of CDs from a vendor.

JW> HTH, Johannes


Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri, 
25 May 2007 18:


Gayle Lee Fairless([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:


 > I just installed Windows XP Professional on an IBM ThinkPad 390



 > with a Pentium MMX (233 MHZ) and a 60 GB harddrive. (I have partioned it



 > in anticipation of also installing Linux.) Knoppix 3.7 boots on the



 > machine. (Would I be able to migrate to Debian or just stay with Knoppix



 > if I go that way?)


WT> I have Debian Testing running on 2 Thinkpad 770's one 60Gb HD and one

WT> with a 10 Gb HD. The 233 Mhz 770 is running as an Access point, with

WT> a NeatGear WG511U PCMCIA card, serving up the net to wireless and

WT> wired Lan. If you are up for a good distro, Debian is the way to go

WT> IMHO. You could always use the Knoppix Live CD to get a handle on

WT> Linux. My 770's will not run any Knoppix but the 3.7 you tried. None

WT> of the (k)ubuntu CD's I tried have worked. The Debian netinstall iso

WT> was the only 2.6 kernel that I have not had a problem with on the

WT> 770's. :-)


 > (portion deleted) Anyway I would prefer to install



 > something more modern. The one USB 1.1 port works well. I'm not sure



 > about the PCMIA slots. Obviously the CDROM drive works, or I could not



 > have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's …. (portion deleted)


WT> The 1.1 USB slot on the 200Mhz 770 has worked with 2 different USB

WT> Wireless dongles. The pcmcia slots on that one are NG. I also found

WT> a Belkin USB-> Ethernet dongle that works also.

NG => No Good?

Are you saying that yours happened to be No Good, or, in general, are 
these PCMIA slots so old as to be useless altogether?


(same duplicate paragraph deleted)

WT> From the above I would suggest you take the jump to Lenny/Testing on the

WT> 390. I have not found anything that doesn't work, yet, on the 200Mhz

WT> box and it only has a 8.8Gb partition and its using only 29% of that. I

WT> loaded up a bunch of drivers on it to test all the USB stuff. You may

WT> have enough room for a Knoppix partition as well. A 3 dist boot job.

WT> Good luck!

WT> Wayne

I have a U.S.Robotics 100 Mbps 802.11g Wireless Turbo PC Card —USR5410-- 
with an installation CDROM (probably intended m

How to get Belkin F5D8011 to work

[Pete Klemm]

Has anyone been able to get the Belkin F5D8011 (N1
MIMO)
pcmcia wireless card to work with Debian Lenny?

I have installed ndiswrapper and madwifi and the F5D8011 is recognized
but I cannot get the essid to stay. If I set it with the iwconfig
command and
the look at, everything has been stored except the essid which is set to
ESSID:off/any.

Any suggestions? A web search did not provide a solution.

Pete





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Re: (OT) Looking for Cell Phone/PDA Recommendations

[Rob Sims]

On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 09:59:36PM -0700, Mark Phillips wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 May 2007 20:59, Rob Sims wrote:
> > How about the Wing?  I'm reasonably happy with the predecessor, the MDA.
> > You need to download Java if you need it (I did it to try an app, so I
> > know it works).

> > I plan on trying the Wing soon.  The manual is on-line under the support
> > tab.

According to the manual, Java is now built in.  The only missing feature
appears to be an IrDA port.  Used it once.

> I looked at the Wing, and it is very thick - really much to thick to carry on 
> a belt and even in a pants pocket. It is also very heavy. From a feature 
> standpoint, it is a super phone/pda. But, IMO, it fails as a portable phone. 
> Just too much to carry around all day. When I put it in my pocket in the 
> store 2 things happended - three sales guys started to follow me and I felt 
> as if I were listing to starboard as I walked around the store, it was so 
> heavy and bulky in my pocket...;-)

I use the belt clip case that came with the MDA, which is even thicker
than the Wing (1" vs 0.7"), and find it not to be an issue.  I'm a big
guy, though.

Another point about phone usage is that without an earpiece, you can hit
the screen with your cheek, though that hasn't been a real problem like
it was on the iPaq 6315 (talk about bulky...)

> I also think they took away the touch screen, but I may be wrong on that 
> point.

I'm fairly sure it's still there.

> They are available in T-mobile stores if you want to try one out. Let me know 
> what you think.

Whatever you end up with, I can really recommend the Garmin GPS10.  It
includes software for Windows, Windows Mobile, and Palm.  It does a
great job of routing, and integrates with the address book.  The GPS
iself works fine with Linux.

If you find something thinner, and not an iPhone, let us know.  
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limiting monthly network traffic

[cls]

[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]

I'm moving my colocated Debian server to a place with
high overage charges.  My network link will carry
about 200x my bandwidth allocation for the month.
The new bandwidth allocation is about 8x what I've been using.
But if I get slashdotted and have a 10x month, it will
cost too much.
What's the Debian way to monitor total network traffic
and throttle down if I get too near the monthly limit?

Thanks

Cameron




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Re: http cache for dialup?

[Mumia W..]

On 05/25/2007 07:57 PM, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

I seem to remember reading somewhere that useing an http cache proxy
would speed up browsing similar sites when using dialup.
[...]


You probably want 'wwwoffle.'



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Re: connecting HP Pavilion zv5260 to a tv

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 20:07 -0700, Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote:
> "Andrew J. Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > > I have a HP Pavilion zv5260 laptop. Today I got the HP XC1000 media
> > >cable from ebay to solve the problem with power jack. The cable has
> > >an s-video and my laptop's video card has a video-out.
>  
> > What kind of video hardware do you have?
> 
> Sony Plasma WEGA Flat Panel Color Television KZ-32TS1. That among other
> supports s-video connection.
> 
> And NVIDIA GeForce 4 440 Go. The laptop has One Vga(15 pin) and One
> TV-Out (S-video) external ports.

I have an NV card as well, which I will be hooking up as soon as I find
a long enough cable.  Have you looked at nvtv?

-
daddy:~# apt-cache show nvtv
Package: nvtv
Priority: optional
Section: admin
...

Description: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux
 This is a program to control the TV encoder chips on NVidia cards under
 Linux, in order to get tv-out with a wide range of resolutions and
 sizes, including "overscan" modes. It does even work with the free nv
drivers.
-

Aside from that there was a recent thread with some details about the
changes you'll want to make to your X config file.  One response even
involved your card:

http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2007-04/msg04185.html

HTH,


Kenward
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vim crash #289188 etch to be fixed?

[cls]

[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
The bug described at
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=289188
makes vim practically unusable.  The bug says
fixed in 1:7.0-164+1
The version in etch is 1:7.0-122+1etch2
and it's broken.

The upstream version is 7.1 and its release
note says "fixed crashes."
I built it from source and it works fine on etch.
How would I find out if the fix is being backported
to the etch package?


Cameron




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Re: connecting HP Pavilion zv5260 to a tv

[Alexandru Cardaniuc]

"Andrew J. Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I have a HP Pavilion zv5260 laptop. Today I got the HP XC1000 media
> >cable from ebay to solve the problem with power jack. The cable has
> >an s-video and my laptop's video card has a video-out.
 
> What kind of video hardware do you have?

Sony Plasma WEGA Flat Panel Color Television KZ-32TS1. That among other
supports s-video connection.

And NVIDIA GeForce 4 440 Go. The laptop has One Vga(15 pin) and One
TV-Out (S-video) external ports.

HP media cable XC1000 specifications:
--
# Docking Cable

# AC Power Jack

# RCA Jack

# USB 2.0 Port

# S-Video Jack

# S/PDIF

# Analog Audio Jack
--

More details here:
http://www.getpartsonline.com/pa925a.html?source=nextag&code=pa925a


Tell me if you need more information...

 
> > I'd like to connect this laptop to TV to be able to watch DVD's on a
> >bigger screen. How can I do this ? Do I need to edit xorg.conf ? Did
> >anybody do that ? With this cable ?
 
> > Any suggestions will be very welcome...

> > BTW, I am running Etch.

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Re: [Resolved] pftp proxy

[Gabriel Parrondo]

El vie, 25-05-2007 a las 22:02 -0400, Floxxx escribió:
> Hi all,
> 
> i already solved it on my own, sorry for the inconvenience :)


That's great! Maybe you can publish the solution (or a link to it) so it
might help other people with the same problem.

> 
> Floxxx.
> 
> Floxxx wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > i was wondering if any of you know if it's possible to proxy pftp. I'm 
> > trying to access a pftp server that is in the same internal network as 
> > my own server, but not accessible from the outside. I need to delete a 
> > large number of files on it and it would take ages to do this with the 
> > pftp program on my server. I searched the archive, but couldn't find 
> > anything...

Here's your chance to add something...

[...]


Best!
Gabriel.

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Re: connecting HP Pavilion zv5260 to a tv

[Andrew J. Barr]

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On 25 May 2007 18:44:08 -0700
Alexandru Cardaniuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All!
> 
> I have a HP Pavilion zv5260 laptop. Today I got the HP XC1000 media
> cable from ebay to solve the problem with power jack. The cable has an
> s-video and my laptop's video card has a video-out.

What kind of video hardware do you have?

> I'd like to connect this laptop to TV to be able to watch DVD's on a
> bigger screen. How can I do this ? Do I need to edit xorg.conf ? Did
> anybody do that ? With this cable ?
> 
> Any suggestions will be very welcome...
> 
> TIA
> 
> BTW, I am running Etch.
> 


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[Resolved] pftp proxy

[Floxxx]

Hi all,

i already solved it on my own, sorry for the inconvenience :)

Floxxx.

Floxxx wrote:

Hi all,

i was wondering if any of you know if it's possible to proxy pftp. I'm 
trying to access a pftp server that is in the same internal network as 
my own server, but not accessible from the outside. I need to delete a 
large number of files on it and it would take ages to do this with the 
pftp program on my server. I searched the archive, but couldn't find 
anything...


Thanks in advance,

Floxxx.





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Re: [Request for Help] Recommender system for Debian packages

[Diego Pereira]

Greetings Roberto,

yes, I'm aware of debtags. I'm also aware of popsuggest, which has very much
the same purpose of my system. However, debommender recommends packages
based on package descriptions, and similarity between users, as of know. I
intend to include support for tags-based recommendations, but haven't been
able to find the time.

Thanks for the response.

Regards,
Diego.

On 5/25/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 01:54:29AM -0300, Diego Pereira wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I'm currently working in my graduation project, which is a recommender
> system for Debian packages.
>
> The purpose of the system is to evaluate which packages are mostly used,
> much like what popularity-contest does, but then go one step further and
> suggest packages which might possibly be of interest to you.
>
Have you looked at the new package tags system?

Regards,

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connecting HP Pavilion zv5260 to a tv

[Alexandru Cardaniuc]

Hi All!

I have a HP Pavilion zv5260 laptop. Today I got the HP XC1000 media
cable from ebay to solve the problem with power jack. The cable has an
s-video and my laptop's video card has a video-out.

I'd like to connect this laptop to TV to be able to watch DVD's on a
bigger screen. How can I do this ? Do I need to edit xorg.conf ? Did
anybody do that ? With this cable ?

Any suggestions will be very welcome...

TIA

BTW, I am running Etch.

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Re: xen-tools freezes (debootstrap)

[Lars]

Steve Kemp wrote:
>   So you're saying that using debootstrap manually, without xen-tools
>  causes a freeze?
Yes, that is right.

>   I'd suggest it might be network/disc related.  Since the kernel
>  is old in real terms there are sometimes issues.  Until I upgraded
>  my Sid system to the 2.6.20x kernel I found Xen would randomly
>  crash on heavy I/O, or network traffic.
>  I think a xen-specific issue, since it is hard to see how debootstrap
>  could crash your system.
I ran "stress" when running the 2.6.18-4-xen kernel and it crashed
randomly. So I upgraded to Sid and the 2.6.20-1-xen-686 kernel, but
unfortunately it follows the same pattern. Actually now the computer
crashed as soon as i start to create DomU. But when i ran stress it
could run 5min/100% load without crashing, but as soon it comes to
creating a DomU it wouldn't last 30sec.

>   That sounds like a bug.  Report it to the BTS or I'll probably
>  forget to take a look properly.  Still if you're running Etch you'll
>  not see the fix unless you use the etch backported package available
>  from my site / the homepage.

Sorry, but i forgot to create a prober bug report before i upgraded
to Sid. But if you still want it, I'll give as many information i
can via mail to the BTS.

/Lars


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pftp proxy

[Floxxx]

Hi all,

i was wondering if any of you know if it's possible to proxy pftp. I'm 
trying to access a pftp server that is in the same internal network as 
my own server, but not accessible from the outside. I need to delete a 
large number of files on it and it would take ages to do this with the 
pftp program on my server. I searched the archive, but couldn't find 
anything...


Thanks in advance,

Floxxx.


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Re: http cache for dialup?

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 08:57:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> I seem to remember reading somewhere that useing an http cache proxy
> would speed up browsing similar sites when using dialup.
> 
> I'm not sure which package would be best.
> 
> I want light weight and minimal/simple config.  I don't need the
> security configs of something like squid.  Just something so that when I
> view several wiki pages, or theweathernetwork.com pages, I don't spend
> so long downloading the same things over and over again.  
> 
> It would be nice if it cached page elements.  For example, if I want
> today's weather, its only the text that has changed since yesterday, not
> all the wizbang graphics unrelated to the forcast.
> 

As long as the graphics or other things are not embedded, I think any
proxy will do basically what you want.  Have you looked at squid or
polipo?

Regards,

-Roberto

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http cache for dialup?

[Douglas Allan Tutty]

I seem to remember reading somewhere that useing an http cache proxy
would speed up browsing similar sites when using dialup.

I'm not sure which package would be best.

I want light weight and minimal/simple config.  I don't need the
security configs of something like squid.  Just something so that when I
view several wiki pages, or theweathernetwork.com pages, I don't spend
so long downloading the same things over and over again.  

It would be nice if it cached page elements.  For example, if I want
today's weather, its only the text that has changed since yesterday, not
all the wizbang graphics unrelated to the forcast.

Any suggestions?  I'm running Etch amd64.

Thanks,

Doug.


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Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

[Michael M.]

On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 08:43 +0200, M. Fioretti wrote:
> On Fri, May 18, 2007 16:41:49 PM -0400, Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal,
> > 
> > I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become
> > nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to
> > read our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness
> > of offtopic posts there.
> 
> Thanks Joey for publicly addressing this issue! I had decided to write
> an almost identical complain, so you saved me some time.
> 
> I joined this list around Christmas and, since then, I have found it a
> real pain in the neck for the very reason you have just signalled to
> the listmasters. Ron, Celejar, Judd, Roberto, Michael, Michelle and
> surely a few others I have forgotten (yes, it's necessary to make
> names at this point) have flooded this list with *hundreds* of totally
> unnecessary messages, regardless of what I think of their contents.


Excuse me.  This month I have made 8 posts, this being the 9th.  Of
those, four were off-topic and marked as such.  One was marked
off-topic, but wasn't actually off-topic (it concerned a package found
in Debian, clive).  Last month I made all of 14 posts, one of which was
off-topic and was marked as such, and it was just a joke.  In March I
made a whopping (for me) 29 posts, 3 of which were off-topic (in the
"dumb query" and "A Republican!!!" threads).

I'm not sure I've broken 100 posts in total this year, let alone 100
off-topic posts, and certainly not "hundreds."

Which brings me to the only point I wanted to make, because frankly I
could care less what you think.  Some people's (present company
included) hysteria over the supposed off-topic abusers is, IMO,
astonishingly overheated.  I find it hard to believe that the majority
of people technically proficient enough to install Debian in a Windows
world are utterly helpless to filter out unwanted mailing list email.
I'm much more inclined to believe that those who complain are probably
control freaks, which seems more in keeping with the tone and tenor of
even the on-topic discussions I've followed among Debian developers and
other Linux developers and advocates -- discussions Joey Hess has
certainly participated in.

Compared to what I've seen following similar lists and discussions in
the *BSD world, I'm beginning to realize the farther away one gets from
the DFSG and the GPL, the more relaxed and easygoing people are more
likely to be (Theo de Raadt notwithstanding).


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Re: WEP??? (was Re: reliable wifi manager for gnome)

[Micha Feigin]

On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:41:22 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On 05/25/07 18:25, Micha Feigin wrote:
> [snip]
> > do ifdown wlan0 followed by a ifup wlan0 and it will sometimes work. In
> > roaming mode it doesn't set the wep key at all.
> > 
> > I am trying to convert my dad to linux and proper wifi is kind of the main
> > must.
> 
> Why are you inviting someone to (quickly!!) hack into your network?
> 

I need a solution that works with both linux and the access point, can be
configured easily enough, will stop the next door guy from using my network (I
doubt I can stop anyone from actually breaking in if they really wanted to).

Plus everything even inside the network is behind it's own firewall and if the
guy who wants to break in moves another 50m he will find ten more networks with
no protection at all (and another few guarded only be wep).

I'll be happy to hear about a better solution (I don't have the time to catch
up on network security) and unrelated to the security issue, I need a wifi
management software that works (preferably with no more than entering the
network details the first time I want to connect).

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Re: Complete KDE crash (since last upadate)

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On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 13:50:22 +0200, kristian DOT mailinglists AT  
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On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 23:30:57 +0200, kristian DOT mailinglists   
AT ewetel DOT net wrote:


[ snip: KDE hangs during startup after logging in via KDM ]


I would try the following from a text terminal while KDM (and X) are
completely shut down:

dpkg --force-depends --purge kdelibs4c2a kdelibs-data menu-xdg
xbase-clients

aptitude install kdelibs4c2a kdelibs-data menu-xdg xbase-clients

(You can use another package manager to install the packages again if
 you do not normally use aptitude.)

Reboot and hope for the best...


OK, al little bit changed after the purging and reinstalling of the four
packages. KDE shows the same behavior as before, but .xsession-errors shows
a lot of WARNINGS about unknown mimetypes now. This warnings come only the
first time after the reinstalling, maybe this is normal, I snipped it,
because it is to long for this mail:

Xsession: X session started for kristian at Fr 25. Mai 13:47:43 CEST 2007
startkde: Starting up...
kbuildsycoca running...
Reusing existing ksycoca
kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : media_realfolder.desktop
kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file   
.hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located   
under "apps" instead of "services"

kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'   
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde/amarok.desktop'  
 specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/asx'


[ snip: many more "undefined mimetype/service" warnings ]

When I run kbuildsycoca in konsole I get the same warnings about
media_realfolder.desktop and dirfilterplugin.desktop, as well as 220
"undefined mimetype/service" messages. Nevertheless my KDE works fine as
far as I can tell. I think it is time to check a few other things on
your system:

After KDM starts, switch to a terminal and run

egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

to see all Xorg error messages and warnings. Then log in with KDM,
switch back to the terminal once KDE hangs and run the same command
again to see if there are new errors or warnings. Post the results here.
(Use the ">" output redirector to save the messages to a file if
necessary.)

Then run "invoke-rc.d kdm restart", go back to the terminal and run

tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog

This will monitor your syslog for new messages until you press CTRL + C.
(I think you have to be root or a member of the "adm" group to read the
syslog on a standard Debian system.)

Go back to the KDM screen, log in, wait until KDE hangs and switch back
to the terminal. Any output from the syslog monitoring? Post it here,
please.

Hopefully this will turn up something.


I am very sorry, but this gave no important information. The  
Xorg.0.log shows just some warnings about missed fonts, before and  
after login the same.

The syslog shows nothing!

The strange for me is that it seems no one else has this failure. So  
it should not have to do with the kde packages. Maybe with a  
combination af packages which do not fit together perfectly?

Re: running qemu on an AMD64

[Linas Žvirblis]

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>> Could I use Linux to copy the Windows program exe files etc to the
>> Windows fake partition created by qemu and then go into Windows under
>> qemu and then get it to install the software?
> 
> For many pieces of software that scheme would work, but for "copy
> protected" discs it will fail.  These so-called 'copy protected' discs
> deliberately put bad data on the disc and a special program is loaded at
> install time to read the disc (and also to ensure that the bad stuff is
> there). For example, a naive attempt to back up 'Flight Simulator' will
> result in bad checksums etc.

There are actually more than one way to do this, depending on what you
are trying to do:

1. To create a CD image and use it as a virtual CD-ROM in QEMU you need
to run this command from a terminal:

 dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso

"qemu-launcher" version 1.8.0~pre0-1, which is available in Debian
Experimental, can also do it, so can some GUI CD burning applications.

To use the CD image, run "qemu" like this...

 qemu -hda hard-disk.img -cdrom image.iso

...or browse to it in "qemu-launcher". A "-cdrom" can also point to a
real CD-ROM device, like "/dev/cdrom". In fact, if you do not use
"-cdrom" option, "qemu" will not emulate any CD-ROMs.

2. "qemu" also has this little known option that allows using real
directories as virtual drives. It works like this:

 qemu -hda hard-disk.img -hdb fat:/home/user/directory

The guest OS will not be allowed to write to the directory by default.
If you want this, use the following command:

 qemu -hda hard-disk.img -hdb fat:rw:/home/user/directory

In any case, you should not modify anything in the directory while the
emulator is running. This will confuse the guest OS, and may result in
corrupted data being read.

3. There is also a way to mount the virtual hard disk, and access it
directly, but it requires root access, and is not really nice. It works
like this:

 sudo mount -o loop,offset=32256 /path/to/image.img /mnt/something

Do not forget to umount it before starting the emulator. No disk image
should be used both by guest and host OS at the same time, as it may and
probably will) corrupt the image.

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WEP??? (was Re: reliable wifi manager for gnome)

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[snip]
> do ifdown wlan0 followed by a ifup wlan0 and it will sometimes work. In 
> roaming
> mode it doesn't set the wep key at all.
> 
> I am trying to convert my dad to linux and proper wifi is kind of the main 
> must.

Why are you inviting someone to (quickly!!) hack into your network?

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deranged mouse behaviour with ibm thinkpad t31

[Micha Feigin]

I am installing linux on a thinkpad t31. Most things work, but I think that the
mouse is setup wrong since after playing with the mouse (it's the red point in
the middle of the keyboard, not sure what it's called) for a few seconds to
minutes (not consistent) it suddenly goes crazy opening windows, pressing
buttons and flying all over the place. To release it I need to let go of the
mouse for a couple of seconds and then it goes back to normal until the next
time.

I tried setting the protocol to ImPS/2 and auto which behave the same and to
GlidePoint which doesn't function at all. device is /dev/input/mice

Any ideas?


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reliable wifi manager for gnome

[Micha Feigin]

I am looking for a reliable wifi manager for gnome for my dad (I'm comfortable
enough with the command line and fvwm).

I tried using the installed NetworkManger Applet but it doesn't seem to setup
things properly, in manual mode after I plug in the usb wifi thingy I need to
do ifdown wlan0 followed by a ifup wlan0 and it will sometimes work. In roaming
mode it doesn't set the wep key at all.

I am trying to convert my dad to linux and proper wifi is kind of the main must.

Thanks


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Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

[Wayne Topa]

Gayle Lee Fairless([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
>   I just installed Windows XP Professional on an IBM ThinkPad 390
> with a Pentium MMX (233 MHZ) and a 60 GB harddrive.  (I have partioned it
> in anticipation of also installing Linux.)  Knoppix 3.7 boots on the
> machine.  (Would I be able to migrate to Debian or just stay with Knoppix
> if I go that way?)  

I have Debian Testing running on 2 Thinkpad 770's one 60Gb HD and one
with a 10 Gb HD.  The 233 Mhz 770 is running as an Access point, with
a NeatGear WG511U PCMCIA card, serving up the net to wireless and
wired Lan.  If you are up for a good distro, Debian is the way to go
IMHO.  You could always use the Knoppix Live CD to get a handle on
linux.  My 770's will not run any Knoppix but the 3.7 you tried.  None
of the (k)ubuntu CD's I tried have worked.  The Debian netinstall iso
was the only 2.6 kernel that I have not had a problem with on the
770's.  :-)

>
> I also have woody and have seen the installation
> advice on the installation of woody on a ThinkPad (Yep, I used Google).  
> I have booted the woody installation CDROM on the machine; however, it
> could not find the original harddrive (I was waiting for the replacement
> harddrive from Drive Solutions).  Anyway I would prefer to install
> something more modern.  The one USB 1.1 port works well.  I'm not sure
> about the PCMIA slots.  Obviously the CDROM drive works, or I could not
> have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's.  Ubuntu Dapper Drake
> stalled with a KDE desk error.

The 1.1 USB slot on the 200Mhz 770 has worked with 2 different USB
Wireless dongles.  The pcmcia slots on that one are NG.  I also found
a Belkin USB-> Ethernet dongle that works also.

>   I've ordered a Belkin wireless USB adapter (g protocol).  I have
> not tested the internal modem yet but would want a faster connection.  I 
> have a home network connected by ethernet and a Belkin wireless g router.  
> The network itself connects to the Internet through a Xoom DSL modem.
> I have done network install of Debian etch to a desktop over my network.  
> Are there any special techniques or extra information that I have missed?
> I can download iso images to my desktop and create CDROM's.

>From the above I would suggest you take the jump to Lenny/Testing on the
390. I have not found anything that doesn't work, yet, on the 200Mhz
box and it only has a 8.8Gb partition and its using only 29% of that.  I
loaded up a bunch of drivers on it to test all the USB stuff.  You may
have enough room for a Knoppix partition as well.  A 3 dist boot job.
Good luck!

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Re: running qemu on an AMD64

[pinniped]

(quote)
Could I use Linux to copy the Windows program exe files etc to the Windows fake 
partition created by qemu and then go into Windows under qemu and then get it 
to install the software?
(end quote)

For many pieces of software that scheme would work, but for "copy protected" 
discs it will fail.  These so-called 'copy protected' discs deliberately put bad data on 
the disc and a special program is loaded at install time to read the disc (and also to 
ensure that the bad stuff is there). For example, a naive attempt to back up 'Flight 
Simulator' will result in bad checksums etc.


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Re: Encrypted loopback filesystem

[Klein Moebius]

* Klein Moebius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-25 16:25:56 -0500]:

 
>  will block out a working space for the file... change the count to vary
>  the size...

That example gave you a 1 Mg file...

Once you have the loop successfully created, you will have to make a
filestem on it:

mke2fs -c /dev/loop[]

then you can mount it:

mount /dev/loop[] /mnt (or wherever), then you can write to it in an
encrypted manner..

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Re: running qemu on an AMD64 box to host Windows 98......

[Michael Fothergill]

Dear Debianists,

I am emailing to thank people for helping me with qemu

Windows 98 installed reasonably OK on qemu on my AMD64 machine..

There is one small problem which may reflect my newness to qemu.

Once I had installed Windows 98, I then tried to load some software on to it 
from a CD.


I tried to do it within Windows 98 by going to the Mycomputer folder and 
looking for the CD icon and clicking on it as you would if you running 
Windows 98 natively and then copy the program to the hard disk and install 
it.


But the problem was that the CD was not recognized as a device by Windows 
98..


I didn't get any problem with the Windows 98 installation disk however it 
was qemu not Windows that sorted out reading that CD at the outset I think 
as far as I could tell anyway


Of course Linux underneath produced an icon for the CD pronto...

Could I use Linux to copy the Windows program exe files etc to the Windows 
fake partition created by qemu and then go into Windows under qemu and then 
get it to install the software?


Or are you not supposed to do it that way?

Your comments are appreciated.

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Re: modem and default gw

[remigio]

You need to explicitely allow this using the
>
> replacedefaultroute
>
> option in /etc/ppp/peers/kppp or /etc/ppp/options.


Tried in /etc/ppp/peers/kppp-options. It works fine!
Thank you very much!

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Re: [OT] Re: installing tutos2

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 08:24:58PM +0200, csanyipal wrote:
> 
> Yes,now  and after I edited the pg_hba.conf, I restarted postgresql too.
> 
> But I get the same error message:
> 
> Opening the database POSTGRES: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:5432 as www-data
> 
> Detail
> 
> DBerror: POSTGRES: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:5432 as www-data no connection
> 
> When I reconfigured tutos2 I give to www-data user an empty password 
> (hit enter).
> 
> I added now my username to www-data group.
> 
You did this in postgres, right?  Posgres does not understand system
users/groups.  They must be in postgres' users table.

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Re: Encrypted loopback filesystem

[Klein Moebius]

* Michael S. Peek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-25 10:43:26 -0400]:

> Hi gurus,
> 
> I thought I would experiment with creating an encrypted loopback 
> filesystem.  I've generated a file of random numbers, but I can't attack 
> it to /dev/loop0:
> 
> # losetup -e serpent /dev/loop0 $(pwd)/file.bin
> Password:
> ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument
> 
> I did a quick google search, but what I've found refers to making sure 
> that you have the modules and util-linux installed, and I 've got those 
> (using Debian/Etch), and the loop and serpent modules are loaded.
> 
> What else can I check for?
> 
packages:

loop-aes-modules-XXX (looks like you have them)
loop-aes-utils
loop-aes-testsuite
sharutils

after install of loop-aes-modules, module loop must be removed and then
reloaded in the kernel to get to the new loop-aes module (only once if
you haven't rebooted since install:

rmmod loop
modprobe loop

command would be:

losetup -e serpent[128,192, or 256] /dev/loop[1,2,3,4,5,6,7, or 8]\
 ~/file.bin

 file.bin must have a physical size already, example:

 dd if=/dev/urandom of=~/file.bin bs=1024 count=1000

 will block out a working space for the file... change the count to vary
 the size...

Look here:



And here:



Good place to start.  Good luck!

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Re: modem and default gw

[remigio]

On 25 Mag, 02:00, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> remigio wrote:
> > Hi,
> > on my pc I have installed a network pci card and an internal
> > softmodem. Both them work fine but I have a problem with the default
> > gateway.
> > In /etc/network/interfaces is defined a gateway that is used by the
> > nic, and the command ip route shows this defgw.
> > When I use Kppp and the modem to connect to the Internet, I note that
> > the defgw remain the same (the one defined for the nic) although in
> > kppp I set the option "Assign the Default route  to this gateway", and
> > I can't go on the Internet.
> > Once Kppp has connected successufully to the provider, ip addr shows
> > that ppp0 has reseived the inet and the ptp address from the remote
> > server but the defgw is not the ptp addr! It still remain the same!
> > How can kppp assign the defgw route  after connected?
> > Thanks.
>
> > Remigio
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> Since you use kppp to connect to internet, do you need that NIC gateway
> at all?

No, I don't.
Thanks

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Re: modem and default gw

[remigio]

On 25 Mag, 02:00, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> remigio wrote:
> > Hi,
> > on my pc I have installed a network pci card and an internal
> > softmodem. Both them work fine but I have a problem with the default
> > gateway.
> > In /etc/network/interfaces is defined a gateway that is used by the
> > nic, and the command ip route shows this defgw.
> > When I use Kppp and the modem to connect to the Internet, I note that
> > the defgw remain the same (the one defined for the nic) although in
> > kppp I set the option "Assign the Default route  to this gateway", and
> > I can't go on the Internet.
> > Once Kppp has connected successufully to the provider, ip addr shows
> > that ppp0 has reseived the inet and the ptp address from the remote
> > server but the defgw is not the ptp addr! It still remain the same!
> > How can kppp assign the defgw route  after connected?
> > Thanks.
>
> > Remigio
>
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> Since you use kppp to connect to internet, do you need that NIC gateway
> at all?

No, I don't.
Thanks

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Re: modem and default gw

[remigio]

> For security reasons, pppd does not change the default gateway if you
> already have a default gateway (at least if you use the noauth option,
> as far as I know). You need to explicitely allow this using the
>
> replacedefaultroute
>
> option in /etc/ppp/peers/kppp or /etc/ppp/options.


Thank you very much for you suggestion.
I'll try it.
Bye
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Re: debian-multimedia bug reports?

[Rick Pasotto]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 03:16:05PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
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> Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > Today I encountered a fatal error when running ffmpeg. When I ran 
> > reportbug it tells me that my version is newer than the debian
> > version, probably because reportbug is not taking debian-multimedia
> > into account. Should I go ahead and file a bug report using reportbug
> > or by some other means?
> 
> You should use reportbug and debian's bug tracking system for problems
> with packages from debian. debian-multimedia is *not* debian.
> 
> - From the web page at debian-multimedia.org:
> 
> > If you find some broken dependencies or bugs in these packages, tell
> > me and don't report bugs to the BTS. Upstream bug report should be
> > sent to the respective author. (See the copyright file in
> > /usr/share/doc/  for upstream e-mail address)

OK, I did that and the mail got returned to me.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
host b.mx.mail.yahoo.com [66.196.97.250]: 554 delivery error:
dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.fr account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [0] - 
mta117.mail.re3.yahoo.com

What do you suggest I do now?

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Re: modem and default gw

[remigio]

> Are you saying that when not using your modem, you have a route to the
> internet via the NIC?  Why use the modem then.
>
> If not, why set a default gateway on the NIC in the first place?

The answer for your questions is:
because I'm using a notebook and, when I am in my office I can use the
lan for the Internet, but when I am at home I must connect to the
itnernet via modem.
Thanks

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Re: [semi-OT] Data archiving (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)

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On 05/25/07 13:44, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
>> But isn't that putting all your eggs in one basket?  (Unless I'm
>> mis-reading you.)
> 
> 3 disks in three different locations (according to Douglas'
> requirements). You'd have backup 1,4,7,... on the first disk 2,5,8,...
> on the second and so forth.

Roger that!

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[Solved] Re: Windows shares again

[Eric A. Bonney]

Eric A. Bonney wrote:

Ok,

So I can find all sorts of information on how to share a Linux share 
to a windows machine using Samba and how to share a Linux share with a 
Linux box again using Samba.  I can find all sorts of examples for 
each of these.  I can find examples of using pam to auto mount shares 
on login again from Linux to Linux, but my biggest issue is finding 
documentation on gaining access to shared folders from a Windows 
machine on Linux boxes.

I want to be able to do the following upon a users login:

1. When the user logs into the Linux machine, based on what group they 
are assigned to, they should have certain shares automatically mounted 
under /home.
2. When the user logs into the Linux machine, based on what group they 
are assigned to, they should have all other shares not automatically 
mounted, set to such a way that they can't gain access to them at all.
3. When the user logs out of the Linux machine, all shares should be 
unmounted.


I know I am supposed to be able to do this with pam, but I am not sure 
how to do this.  Do I need some kind of configuration file for the 
login part?  Also, does Samba recognize groups from the XP machine?  I 
currently use groups on the XP machine to restrict access of the users 
on that machine to certain directories.


I know on my Samba server that is running on my Linux machine, I can 
specify invalid users on a per share basis, which can limit the users 
access to those shares.  Not really sure how to do this on the windows 
shared folders or if it is even possible.  I guess I might have to 
move all that data down to the Linux server and then run it all from 
the Samba server.


Anyone have any other suggestions on how to work this out?

Thanks,
-Eric


Just an update.  I finally got this working today.  One thing I decided 
to do, and am still doing, is I moved all the shared external drives 
there were on  my XP box, down to the Linux server.  This way it was 
easier to serve the files to the XP box using Samba and I knew what I 
was doing there. 

Then I finally got the pam_mount to work so that it automatically mounts 
the samba shares under the /home of each user when they login and then 
unmounts them when they log out.  I had to use a how to that was written 
for Fedora and pull out only the pieces of information that I need.


Here is a brief description of what I have done so far to get it to work 
after installing pam and configuring samba correctly:
1. Modified /etc/pam.d/kdm and /etc/pam.d/login files to include the 
following line before all other auth lines.

 auth   required   pam_mount.so
2. Further down in the same two files from #1 I added
 session   optional   pam_mount.so
3. Modified /etc/security/pam_mount.conf as follows:
 commented out the line "options_require   nosuid, nodev"
4. Added all the shares that I wanted shared on my laptop under /home 
like this:
   volume * smbfs   servername   sharename   /home/&/mountpoint   
uid=&   - -


This is working just fine on my laptop at the present time.  I know 
there is a way to feed pam_mount a configuration file that is setup in 
the user's /home directory that specifies the shares that are completed 
in #4.  I plan on using the configuration file setup for my Debian box 
that all the family uses, so that each user has a different set of 
shares that show up under their /home.  The kids don't need access to 
all the shares and neither do any of the guests that use the computer.


Hopefully this will help someone else out in the future and save them 
some searching.


-Eric


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Re: [semi-OT] Data archiving (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/25/07 09:04, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
>> Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> [snip]
>>> True.  However, for a small data set (under 1 GB) the need for three
>>> copies means three hard drives.  Using a hard drive and rewriting over
>>> it means that you loose old archives.  
>> If you have 1GB of data and a say 40GB hard disk that means about 40
>> full backups on each. With incremental backups those would last much,
>> much longer.
> 
>> For your three disks you'd have 120 full backups! Of course in the case
>> of failure you'd loose 40 of them, instead of loosing one unreadable CD,
>> but I consider checking 120 CDs for unreadable sectors etc. a nightmare.
> 
> But isn't that putting all your eggs in one basket?  (Unless I'm
> mis-reading you.)

3 disks in three different locations (according to Douglas'
requirements). You'd have backup 1,4,7,... on the first disk 2,5,8,...
on the second and so forth.

Johannes
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Re: [OT] Re: installing tutos2

[csanyipal]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 01:56:54PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 06:33:21PM +0200, csanyipal wrote:
> > 
> > /etc/postgresql/8.1/main/pg_hba.conf :
> > 
> > -->
> > # Database administrative login by UNIX sockets 
> > local all postgres ident sameuser
> > 
> > # TYPE  DATABASE USER CIDR-ADDRESS METHOD
> > 
> > # "local" is for Unix domain socket connections only
> > local all all ident sameuser
> > 
> > # IPv4 local connections:
> > host all all 127.0.0.1/32 md5
> > 
> > # IPv6 local connections:
> > host all all ::1/128 md5
> > 
> > # I edited this for tutos:  
> > host  tutos   127.0.0.1  255.255.255.255   trust
> 
> Did you try this?
> 
> host  tutos www-data  127.0.0.1  255.255.255.255   trust

Yes,now  and after I edited the pg_hba.conf, I restarted postgresql too.

But I get the same error message:

Opening the database POSTGRES: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:5432 as www-data

Detail

DBerror: POSTGRES: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:5432 as www-data no connection

When I reconfigured tutos2 I give to www-data user an empty password 
(hit enter).

I added now my username to www-data group.

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Re: Remove gnome-games

[Manon Metten]

Hi Mumia,


On 5/25/07, Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I rather have gnome-desktop-environment removed completely, but I don't
know
> what part or apps of kde will be broken then.




You probably can remove gnome-desktop-environment safely using aptitude.

Those individual Gnome programs that KDE depends upon will remain while
most of the others will be removed.




I'll give it a try. If it doesn't work, I can always reinstall
gnome-desktop-environment (I guess).

Thank you all.

Re: how can i make my package better ?

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Jabka Atu escribió:
[...]
>> Where's the package? :)
> oops ...
> strange i though i added a link :
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=181653&package_id=232735&release_id=510932

Well, I don't need the .deb, I need is the diff.gz and the orig.tar.gz,
that way I can build it my self and check it :).

Regards,
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[SOLVED] Re: 'mark' buttons of non-kde applications in kde

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2007 16:31:29 +0200
> Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> From
>> 16:18:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $GTK2_RC_FILES
>> /johannes2/.gtkrc-2.0
>>
>> I delete that file and now the buttons get this nice frame for the
>> selected item. However, now the font used by these applications is
>> big, fat and ugly. So big and fat, that I refuse to use them.
>>
>> Is there a way of having a light nice font *plus* these little frames?
>>
>> I tried Helvetica 10, New Courier 10, Console 10, but none of them
>> worked.
> 
> Create a new gtkrc-2.0 file containing the following line:
> 
>   gtk-font-name="Sans 8"
> 
> Obviously, you can experiment with the font size until you achieve the
> desired effect.
> 
> I seem to remember there is an option in the Control Centre to apply
> fonts and colour settings to non-KDE applications. You might want to
> switch that option off, since the results are mixed, at best.

Thanks.

It appears to be a problem of the 'theme' Qt that is set in that file.
Replacing it by 'Platinum' solves it elegantly.

20:06:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ colordiff .gtkrc-2.0 .gtkrc-2.0-kde
4c4
< #include "/usr/share/themes/Qt/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
- ---
> include "/usr/share/themes/Qt/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
12c12
< gtk-theme-name="Platinum"
- ---
> gtk-theme-name="Qt"

20:09:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more .gtkrc-2.0
# This file was written by KDE
# You can edit it in the KDE control center, under "GTK Styles and Fonts"

#include "/usr/share/themes/Qt/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"

style "user-font"
{
font_name="Helvetica 10"
}
widget_class "*" style "user-font"

gtk-theme-name="Platinum"
gtk-font-name="Helvetica 10"

Johannes

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Re: Remove gnome-games

[Mumia W..]

On 05/25/2007 12:14 PM, Manon Metten wrote:

[...]
I rather have gnome-desktop-environment removed completely, but I don't know
what part or apps of kde will be broken then.

Thanks, Manon.



Hi Manon.

You probably can remove gnome-desktop-environment safely using aptitude. 
Those individual Gnome programs that KDE depends upon will remain while 
most of the others will be removed.





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Re: Mike Capture not working in Debian Testing/Creative Live Soundblaster

[David Dawson]

Chris Lale wrote:

> David Dawson wrote:
>> I'm running Debian Testing and the mike capture recently stopped working.
>> The card is a Creative Soundblaster Live.
>> The problem is that the system will not allow any app to get mike audio.
>> On the other hand I *can* get mike audio through the card if I switch on
>> the mixer monitor.
>> I tried setting things with Alsamixer, but no go.
>> The sound system in the  kernel (Debian 2.6.18-K7) is Alsa.
> 
> It may be worth checking your hardware [1]. If your motherboard has
> built-in sound, this may have been detected by Alsa as the default. It
> will thus be expecting your mike to be plugged into the integrated sound
> mic socket.
Thanks, but actually the on-board sound is disabled and that would also
apply to the speaker and line input.
> 
> [1]
>
[http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Sound_in_Debian_GNU/Linux#Check_your_hardware
> 

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Re: debian-multimedia bug reports?

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 06:45:50PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> > True.  However, it is possible (and recommended) for people who produce
> > non-official packages to put an address that reportbug can use.  In that
> > way, people can use reportbug on your package and the bug report will be
> > send to your own address of choice, instead of to the BTS.
> 
> That is an option for Christian Marillat, not for OP, though.
> 
Yes, you are right.  However, I was trying to point out that reportbug
can be used for unofficial packages (assuming the maintainer has set
them up properly.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: [OT] Re: installing tutos2

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 06:33:21PM +0200, csanyipal wrote:
> 
> I have now installed postgresql-8.1:
> 
> /etc/postgresql/8.1/main/pg_hba.conf :
> 
> -->
> # Database administrative login by UNIX sockets 
> local all postgres ident sameuser
> 
> # TYPE  DATABASE USER CIDR-ADDRESS METHOD
> 
> # "local" is for Unix domain socket connections only
> local all all ident sameuser
> 
> # IPv4 local connections:
> host all all 127.0.0.1/32 md5
> 
> # IPv6 local connections:
> host all all ::1/128 md5
> 
> # I edited this for tutos:  
> host  tutos   127.0.0.1  255.255.255.255   trust

Did you try this?

host  tutos www-data  127.0.0.1  255.255.255.255   trust


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Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
>   I just installed Windows XP Professional on an IBM ThinkPad 390
> with a Pentium MMX (233 MHZ) and a 60 GB harddrive.  (I have partioned it
> in anticipation of also installing Linux.)  Knoppix 3.7 boots on the
> machine.  (Would I be able to migrate to Debian or just stay with Knoppix
> if I go that way?)  I also have woody and have seen the installation
> advice on the installation of woody on a ThinkPad (Yep, I used Google).  
> I have booted the woody installation CDROM on the machine; however, it
> could not find the original harddrive (I was waiting for the replacement
> harddrive from Drive Solutions).  Anyway I would prefer to install
> something more modern.  The one USB 1.1 port works well.  I'm not sure
> about the PCMIA slots.  Obviously the CDROM drive works, or I could not
> have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's.  Ubuntu Dapper Drake
> stalled with a KDE desk error.

Debian woody 3.0 was released in 2002. It became obsolete by the release
of 'sarge'. Now we have debian etch 4.0. Try to install etch.

Your hardware probably is too old (ie. not powerful enough) to run KDE
or gnome. Start out with a minimal install and add xfce4 or an other
light-wight window manager.

>   I've ordered a Belkin wireless USB adapter (g protocol).  I have
> not tested the internal modem yet but would want a faster connection.  I 
> have a home network connected by ethernet and a Belkin wireless g router.  
> The network itself connects to the Internet through a Xoom DSL modem.
> I have done network install of Debian etch to a desktop over my network.  
> Are there any special techniques or extra information that I have missed?
> I can download iso images to my desktop and create CDROM's.

I don't know if the installer for etch supports your modem. You might be
better off to either download the first CD with another computer or buy
a set of CDs from a vendor.


HTH, Johannes

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Re: xterm fonts

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2007-05-23 09:19:35, schrieb Deboo ^:
??? On 5/22/07, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
??? 
??? >apt-cache show dfm
??? 
??? Great. Thanks for the info. Works OOB!

Perfect :-)

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Re: xterm fonts

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2007-05-22 20:39:54, schrieb Mumia W..:
??? Ignore anyone who says that an ~/.Xresources/ directory has any 
??? significance.

This is bullshit, since ~/.Xresurces/ IS READ always.

[ '/tmp/xfontsel.strace' ]--
18707 14:25:31.582714 [] execve("/usr/X11R6/bin/xfontsel", 
["xfontsel"], [/* 92 vars */]) = 0
18707 14:25:31.587394 [4001158d] uname({sysname="Linux", 
nodename="michelle1.private", release="2.4.27-2-386", version="#1 Wed Aug 17 
09:33:35 UTC 2005", machine="i686"}) = 0

18707 14:25:31.626922 [4028e63d] uname({sysname="Linux", 
nodename="michelle1.private", release="2.4.27-2-386", version="#1 Wed Aug 17 
09:33:35 UTC 2005", machine="i686"}) = 0
18707 14:25:31.627025 [402b0b58] 
open("/home/michelle.konzack/.Xdefaults-michelle1.private", O_RDONLY) = 4
  

Is read ALWAYS.

18707 14:25:31.639521 [402afe6d] fstat64(4, {st_dev=makedev(0, 10), st_ino=791, 
st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, st_uid=1000, st_gid=1000, st_blksize=8192, 
st_blocks=2, st_size=71, st_atime=2007/05/24-14:24:47, 
st_mtime=2007/05/24-14:21:50, st_ctime=2007/05/24-14:24:39}) = 0
18707 14:25:31.639611 [402b0d18] read(4, "*customization: -lightblue\n\n#define 
LONG_NAMES yes\n\n#define BUBTIPS no\n", 71) = 71
18707 14:25:31.639663 [402b0c91] close(4) = 0
18707 14:25:31.639847 [402b0e41] 
access("/home/michelle.konzack/.Xresources/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/XFontSel-lightblue", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

Now it try to get the Xresource for "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" but since it does not 
exist

18707 14:25:31.639909 [402b0e41] 
access("/home/michelle.konzack/.Xresources/de/XFontSel-lightblue", R_OK) = 0

it try "de"

18707 14:25:31.642387 [402afd0d] 
stat64("/home/michelle.konzack/.Xresources/de/XFontSel-lightblue", 
{st_dev=makedev(0, 10), st_ino=832284, st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, 
st_uid=1000, st_gid=1000, st_blksize=8192, st_blocks=52, st_size=25020, 
st_atime=2007/05/24-13:37:55, st_mtime=2007/01/29-15:24:34, 
st_ctime=2007/01/29-15:24:34}) = 0
18707 14:25:31.643372 [402b0b58] 
open("/home/michelle.konzack/.Xresources/de/XFontSel-lightblue", O_RDONLY) = 4

and read it in.

18707 14:25:31.644276 [402afe6d] fstat64(4, {st_dev=makedev(0, 10), 
st_ino=832284, st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, st_uid=1000, st_gid=1000, 
st_blksize=8192, st_blocks=52, st_size=25020, st_atime=2007/05/24-13:37:55, 
st_mtime=2007/01/29-15:24:34, st_ctime=2007/01/29-15:24:34}) = 0
18707 14:25:31.644354 [402b0d18] read(4, 
"!###\n!#   
  "..., 25020) = 25020
18707 14:25:31.644487 [402b0c91] close(4) = 0
18707 14:25:31.645146 [402b0b58] 
open("/home/michelle.konzack/.Xresources/de/XFontSel-lang", O_RDONLY) = 4

and this is a loclized include

18707 14:25:31.645749 [402afe6d] fstat64(4, {st_dev=makedev(0, 10), 
st_ino=832247, st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, st_uid=1000, st_gid=1000, 
st_blksize=8192, st_blocks=18, st_size=8627, st_atime=2007/05/24-14:27:46, 
st_mtime=2007/05/24-14:25:24, st_ctime=2007/05/24-14:28:13}) = 0
18707 14:25:31.645814 [402b752b] brk(0) = 0x8071000
18707 14:25:31.645836 [402b752b] brk(0x8092000) = 0x8092000
18707 14:25:31.645870 [402b0d18] read(4, "\n#define BUBTIPS no\n#undef 
BUBTIPS\n\n!###\n!#\n!#
  /etc/X11/app-def"..., 8627) = 8627
18707 14:25:31.646798 [402b0c91] close(4) = 0

and not it try to read the defaults:

18707 14:25:31.647037 [402b0e41] access("/etc/X11/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/app-defaults/XFontSel-lightblue", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
18707 14:25:31.647091 [402b0e41] 
access("/etc/X11/de/app-defaults/XFontSel-lightblue", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
18707 14:25:31.647132 [402b0e41] 
access("/etc/X11/app-defaults/XFontSel-lightblue", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file or directory)
18707 14:25:31.647171 [402b0e41] access("/etc/X11/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/app-defaults/XFontSel", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
18707 14:25:31.647208 [402b0e41] access("/etc/X11/de/app-defaults/XFontSel", 
R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
18707 14:25:31.647244 [402b0e41] access("/etc/X11/app-defaults/XFontSel", R_OK) 
= 0
18707 14:25:31.647277 [402afd0d] stat64("/etc/X11/app-defaults/XFontSel", 
{st_dev=makedev(3, 1), st_ino=118605, st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, 
st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=10, st_size=4778, 
st_atime=2007/05/24-14:24:57, st_mtime=2005/09/02-00:34:55, 
st_ctime=2006/03/04-14:57:17}) = 0
18707 14:25:31.647352 [402b0b58] open("/etc/X11/app-defaults/XFontSel", 
O_RDONLY) = 4
18707 14:25:31.647389 [402afe6d] fstat64(4, {st_dev=makedev(3, 1), 
st_ino=118605, st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, 
st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=10, st_size=4778, st_atime=2007/05/24-14:24:57, 
st_mtime=2005/09/02-00:34:55, st_

Re: Remove gnome-games

[Joe Hart]

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Manon Metten wrote:
> Hi Ron,
> 
> On 5/25/07, *Ron Johnson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> 
> When you say "gnome", do you mean the package named "gnome"?
> 
> If so, you should be all right.  Unless aptitude does something stupid.
> 
> 
> Sorry for my inaccurate description.
> 
> 
> Here's aptitude's warning:
> 
> gnome-games will be removed.
> 
> The following packages depend on gnome-games and will be  broken  by its
> removal:
> 
> *gnome-desktop-environment depends on gnome-games (>= 1: 2.14.3)
> 
> 
> What happens when gnome-desktop-environment will be broken. I never use
> it anyway. But IIRC I've read that some kde apps use some gnome stuff.
> So I don't know if I can safely remove gnome-games.
> 
> I rather have gnome-desktop-environment removed completely, but I don't
> know what part or apps of kde will be broken then.
> 
> Thanks, Manon.
> 

Please don't use html mail

The above mentioned packages are both meta-packages, so removing them
will not actually remove any packages on your system.  Meta-packages are
just dummy packages with a list of dependencies to make fetching (or
updating) a bunch of packages easier.

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Re: Installation/network card problem - FIXED but annoying.

[Piers Kittel]

Hello all,


A few weeks ago, I got an Xircom CardBus Ethernet 10/100 PCMCIA card
off eBay.  I had an old Etch unstable netinst CD lying about, so I
installed Etch on my old laptop using the CD, installing over the
network without any problems.  Now work has given me an old Dell
Inspiron 2500 laptop and I need to put Debian on it.  I have
installed XP on the Dell laptop and it works perfectly fine with the
network card.  Now it's time to install Debian onto the Dell.  I
couldn't find the CD, so I downloaded a fresh copy of the latest
netinst installer image and burnt it onto CD.  The disc label is
"Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 "Etch" - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1
20070407-11:29"  The Dell laptop booted up fine, and it detected the
network card:




I asked my manager for his spare PCMICA card, and funnily enough, it  
looked the exact same, but actually differed very slightly - the one  
I have is:


Xircom Realport Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 model number RBE-100

The one he gave me is:

Xircom Realport Ethernet 10/100 model number RE-100

The only difference is that mine is "Cardbus" the other isn't.

Anyway the gist of it all, is that the one he gave me works perfect.

I'm sure Linux did spot the difference because with my card, it said:

kernel: xircom cardbus adaptor found, registering as eth0, using irq5

I do not understand why my card with my old P2 266 laptop would work  
perfect with Debian Etch but not the same card in a Dell Inspiron  
with the *same* operating system and kernel, and a slightly different  
card would work fine?  I mean, the Cardbus card works perfectly fine  
in the Inspiron with Windows XP.  In Linux, my server *did* get DHCP  
requests and sent it back, but for some reason the laptop wasn't  
picking it up?


Faulty driver with a strange combination?

Thanks!

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Re: debian-multimedia bug reports?

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[snip]

> True.  However, it is possible (and recommended) for people who produce
> non-official packages to put an address that reportbug can use.  In that
> way, people can use reportbug on your package and the bug report will be
> send to your own address of choice, instead of to the BTS.

That is an option for Christian Marillat, not for OP, though.

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Re: Remove gnome-games

[Manon Metten]

Hi Ron,

On 5/25/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

When you say "gnome", do you mean the package named "gnome"?


If so, you should be all right.  Unless aptitude does something stupid.



Sorry for my inaccurate description.


Here's aptitude's warning:

gnome-games will be removed.

The following packages depend on gnome-games and will be  broken  by its
removal:

*gnome-desktop-environment depends on gnome-games (>= 1:2.14.3)


What happens when gnome-desktop-environment will be broken. I never use it
anyway. But IIRC I've read that some kde apps use some gnome stuff. So I
don't know if I can safely remove gnome-games.

I rather have gnome-desktop-environment removed completely, but I don't know
what part or apps of kde will be broken then.

Thanks, Manon.

Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

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On 05/25/07 11:32, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
>   I just installed Windows XP Professional on an IBM ThinkPad 390
> with a Pentium MMX (233 MHZ) and a 60 GB harddrive.  (I have partioned it
> in anticipation of also installing Linux.)  Knoppix 3.7 boots on the
> machine.  (Would I be able to migrate to Debian or just stay with Knoppix
> if I go that way?)  I also have woody and have seen the installation
> advice on the installation of woody on a ThinkPad (Yep, I used Google).  
> I have booted the woody installation CDROM on the machine; however, it
> could not find the original harddrive (I was waiting for the replacement
> harddrive from Drive Solutions).  Anyway I would prefer to install
> something more modern.  The one USB 1.1 port works well.  I'm not sure
> about the PCMIA slots.  Obviously the CDROM drive works, or I could not
> have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's.  Ubuntu Dapper Drake
> stalled with a KDE desk error.

What kind of error?

Have you correctly installed the replacement drive?

>   I've ordered a Belkin wireless USB adapter (g protocol).  I have
> not tested the internal modem yet but would want a faster connection.  I 
> have a home network connected by ethernet and a Belkin wireless g router.  
> The network itself connects to the Internet through a Xoom DSL modem.
> I have done network install of Debian etch to a desktop over my network.  
> Are there any special techniques or extra information that I have missed?
> I can download iso images to my desktop and create CDROM's.

Two vital questions are:
1. How much RAM does the laptop have?  Probably not much.
2. How much experience do you have with Linux?

Xubuntu might be good choice to install, even though you might then
have to install a lighter-weight window manager.

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Re: Remove gnome-games

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On 05/25/07 11:45, Manon Metten wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> As I never play games, I've removed most of them with aptitude. But some I
> just can't remove: aptitude can't find them. I guess they are part of
> gnome-games (games like: nibbles, robots, ataxx etc.) or something.
> However,
> when I tried to remove gnome-games, aptitude warned me that gnome
> depends on
> gnome games and will be broken. I also never use gnome; i stick with kde.
> 
> Can I safely remove gnome-games, without messing up my system?
> Running Etch: Linux debian 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Wed May 9 22:23:40 UTC 2007 i686
> GNU/Linux

When you say "gnome", do you mean the package named "gnome"?

If so, you should be all right.  Unless aptitude does something stupid.

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Re: Creating a local repos

[Andy Smith]

Hi Douglas,

On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 05:34:02PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> Just curious, why not use apt-proxy?

After having some unexplained problems with apt-proxy I switched to
apt-cacher.

I'm pretty happy with that although I did only realise recently that
it stores files based on their filename, and there are duplicate
filenames between Debian and Ubuntu packages.  So, you can't use the
same apt-cacher with both Debian and Ubuntu clients unless you hack
it up a bit to support different config files per URL.

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Re: [OT] Re: installing tutos2

[csanyipal]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 11:35:48AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 11:39:31PM +0200, csanyipal wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > sudo dpkg-reconfigure tutos2
> > Document `TUTOS' is not installed, cannot remove.
> > Creating the POSTGRES TUTOS database...
> > 
> > HOST:   localhost
> > PORT:   5432
> > DBUSER: www-data
> > DBNAME: tutos
> > 
> > createdb: could not connect to database template1: could not connect to 
> > server: Connection refused
> > Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting
> > TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
> >  Database tutos created !
> > createuser: could not connect to database template1: could not connect 
> > to server: Connection refused
> > Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting
> > TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
> >  User www-data created !
> 
> What is in your /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf?


I have now installed postgresql-8.1:

/etc/postgresql/8.1/main/pg_hba.conf :

-->
# Database administrative login by UNIX sockets 
local all postgres ident sameuser

# TYPE  DATABASE USER CIDR-ADDRESS METHOD

# "local" is for Unix domain socket connections only
local all all ident sameuser

# IPv4 local connections:
host all all 127.0.0.1/32 md5

# IPv6 local connections:
host all all ::1/128 md5

# I edited this for tutos:  
host  tutos   127.0.0.1  255.255.255.255   trust
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Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

[Gayle Lee Fairless]

I just installed Windows XP Professional on an IBM ThinkPad 390
with a Pentium MMX (233 MHZ) and a 60 GB harddrive.  (I have partioned it
in anticipation of also installing Linux.)  Knoppix 3.7 boots on the
machine.  (Would I be able to migrate to Debian or just stay with Knoppix
if I go that way?)  I also have woody and have seen the installation
advice on the installation of woody on a ThinkPad (Yep, I used Google).  
I have booted the woody installation CDROM on the machine; however, it
could not find the original harddrive (I was waiting for the replacement
harddrive from Drive Solutions).  Anyway I would prefer to install
something more modern.  The one USB 1.1 port works well.  I'm not sure
about the PCMIA slots.  Obviously the CDROM drive works, or I could not
have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's.  Ubuntu Dapper Drake
stalled with a KDE desk error.

I've ordered a Belkin wireless USB adapter (g protocol).  I have
not tested the internal modem yet but would want a faster connection.  I 
have a home network connected by ethernet and a Belkin wireless g router.  
The network itself connects to the Internet through a Xoom DSL modem.
I have done network install of Debian etch to a desktop over my network.  
Are there any special techniques or extra information that I have missed?
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Remove gnome-games

[Manon Metten]

Hi,

As I never play games, I've removed most of them with aptitude. But some I
just can't remove: aptitude can't find them. I guess they are part of
gnome-games (games like: nibbles, robots, ataxx etc.) or something. However,
when I tried to remove gnome-games, aptitude warned me that gnome depends on
gnome games and will be broken. I also never use gnome; i stick with kde.

Can I safely remove gnome-games, without messing up my system?
Running Etch: Linux debian 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Wed May 9 22:23:40 UTC 2007 i686
GNU/Linux

Greetings, Manon.

Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?

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Kenward Vaughan wrote:

> Actually, longer chain alcohols are much more likely to soften many (if
> not most) plastics than shorter chain ones.  Differences that people may
> see between ethanol and e.g. propanol can be influenced strongly by the
> presence of water (rubbing alcohol--30% water, vs. relatively pure grain
> alcohol--5% water).
> 
> It's a messy business.  :)

Yes, but still most plastics I've brought to contact with alcohols have
suffered most severely from methanol followed by ethanol, while propanol
was 'mostly harmless'.

IANAC, I'm no chemist ;-D

Johannes

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Re: Complete KDE crash (since last upadate)

[Florian Kulzer]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 13:50:22 +0200, kristian DOT mailinglists AT ewetel DOT 
net wrote:
> - Nachricht von Florian Kulzer -
>> On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 23:30:57 +0200, kristian DOT mailinglists AT ewetel 
>> DOT net wrote:

[ snip: KDE hangs during startup after logging in via KDM ]

>> I would try the following from a text terminal while KDM (and X) are
>> completely shut down:
>>
>> dpkg --force-depends --purge kdelibs4c2a kdelibs-data menu-xdg 
>> xbase-clients
>>
>> aptitude install kdelibs4c2a kdelibs-data menu-xdg xbase-clients
>>
>> (You can use another package manager to install the packages again if
>>  you do not normally use aptitude.)
>>
>> Reboot and hope for the best...
>
> OK, al little bit changed after the purging and reinstalling of the four 
> packages. KDE shows the same behavior as before, but .xsession-errors shows 
> a lot of WARNINGS about unknown mimetypes now. This warnings come only the 
> first time after the reinstalling, maybe this is normal, I snipped it, 
> because it is to long for this mail:
>
> Xsession: X session started for kristian at Fr 25. Mai 13:47:43 CEST 2007
> startkde: Starting up...
> kbuildsycoca running...
> Reusing existing ksycoca
> kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : media_realfolder.desktop
> kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file 
> .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under "apps" 
> instead of "services"
> kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop
> kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop' specifies 
> undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
> kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde/amarok.desktop' specifies 
> undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/asx'

[ snip: many more "undefined mimetype/service" warnings ]

When I run kbuildsycoca in konsole I get the same warnings about
media_realfolder.desktop and dirfilterplugin.desktop, as well as 220
"undefined mimetype/service" messages. Nevertheless my KDE works fine as
far as I can tell. I think it is time to check a few other things on
your system:

After KDM starts, switch to a terminal and run

egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

to see all Xorg error messages and warnings. Then log in with KDM,
switch back to the terminal once KDE hangs and run the same command
again to see if there are new errors or warnings. Post the results here.
(Use the ">" output redirector to save the messages to a file if
necessary.)

Then run "invoke-rc.d kdm restart", go back to the terminal and run

tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog

This will monitor your syslog for new messages until you press CTRL + C.
(I think you have to be root or a member of the "adm" group to read the
syslog on a standard Debian system.)

Go back to the KDM screen, log in, wait until KDE hangs and switch back
to the terminal. Any output from the syslog monitoring? Post it here,
please.

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Re: Purging and reinstalling fixes it.

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 07:00:08AM -0700, Altair IV wrote:
> 
> I just came across this problem myself, too.  As suggested by others, I
> purged the icedove package and reinstalled it (version 2.0.0.0-3), and now
> it seems to be working.   No personal data appears to have been affected,
> fortunately .

Altair,

You are posting via forum that is mirrored to a mailing list.  If you
don't keep the context, we have no clue what you are talking about.
Please, don't change the subject line, and please keep the context of
the message to which you are replying.

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Re: debian-multimedia bug reports?

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 03:16:05PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > Today I encountered a fatal error when running ffmpeg. When I ran 
> > reportbug it tells me that my version is newer than the debian
> > version, probably because reportbug is not taking debian-multimedia
> > into account. Should I go ahead and file a bug report using reportbug
> > or by some other means?
> 
> You should use reportbug and debian's bug tracking system for problems
> with packages from debian. debian-multimedia is *not* debian.
> 
> From the web page at debian-multimedia.org:
> 
> > If you find some broken dependencies or bugs in these packages, tell
> > me and don't report bugs to the BTS. Upstream bug report should be
> > sent to the respective author. (See the copyright file in
> > /usr/share/doc/  for upstream e-mail address)
> 
True.  However, it is possible (and recommended) for people who produce
non-official packages to put an address that reportbug can use.  In that
way, people can use reportbug on your package and the bug report will be
send to your own address of choice, instead of to the BTS.

Regards,

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Re: Postgresql very slow to start on Etch with LDAP

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 12:00:03PM +0200, Stefano Salvi wrote:
> I'm configuring a workstation in a network that manages users and groups 
> with openLDAP.
> I created nearly 60 users in Postgresql.
> Now the server takes nearly 2 minutes on startup (/etc/init.d/postgresql 
> start) and on stop.

What do the logs say?  Have you raised the log level for postgres and
examined those messages?

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Re: [Request for Help] Recommender system for Debian packages

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 01:54:29AM -0300, Diego Pereira wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm currently working in my graduation project, which is a recommender
> system for Debian packages.
> 
> The purpose of the system is to evaluate which packages are mostly used,
> much like what popularity-contest does, but then go one step further and
> suggest packages which might possibly be of interest to you.
> 
Have you looked at the new package tags system?

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Re: [OT] Re: installing tutos2

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 11:39:31PM +0200, csanyipal wrote:
> 
> 
> sudo dpkg-reconfigure tutos2
> Document `TUTOS' is not installed, cannot remove.
> Creating the POSTGRES TUTOS database...
> 
> HOST:   localhost
> PORT:   5432
> DBUSER: www-data
> DBNAME: tutos
> 
> createdb: could not connect to database template1: could not connect to 
> server: Connection refused
> Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting
> TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
>  Database tutos created !
> createuser: could not connect to database template1: could not connect 
> to server: Connection refused
> Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting
> TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
>  User www-data created !

What is in your /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf?

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: [OT] Re: installing tutos2

[csanyipal]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 12:07:57AM +0200, csanyipal wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 11:39:31PM +0200, csanyipal wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 restart
> > Restarting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server: main.
> > 
> > I think it is all OK, except that that I cant open in my browser the 
> > webpage: localhost/tutos/php/admin/scheme.php
> > 
> > My browser wants to run it and not to open it. Why?
> 
> How to run this php script?

I enable the php4 module for apache2 and then I can run this script.

But get the error message on the opened web page:
->
TUTOS Fatal Error

Opening the database POSTGRES: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:5432 as www-data

Detail

DBerror: POSTGRES: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:5432 as www-data no connection
-<

How can I solve this problem?

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Re: [OT] Re: installing tutos2

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 12:07:57AM +0200, csanyipal wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 11:39:31PM +0200, csanyipal wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 restart
> > Restarting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server: main.
> > 
> > I think it is all OK, except that that I cant open in my browser the 
> > webpage: localhost/tutos/php/admin/scheme.php
> > 
> > My browser wants to run it and not to open it. Why?
> 
> How to run this php script?
> 
Search the archives for this.  It comes up every few weeks at least once
or twice and the solutions are very well documented.

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-Roberto

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Re: need typewriter-style quotes in LaTeX mode of emacs

[Tyler Smith]

On 2007-05-25, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Auctex is installed (11.83-6).  This is a recent (less than two month
> old) installation of Debian Lenny ("testing") via netinstall, kept up
> to date with snaptic.  TeX is via TeXLive.
>
> When a LaTeX document is loaded, XEmacs automatically selects the
> following modes:  latex-mode, font-lock-mode, auto-fill mode.  There
> appears to be no such thing as auctex-mode.  Turning off
> font-lock-mode does not change the behaviour.

There is no 'auctex-mode'. Confusingly, auctex is associated with
something called LaTeX-mode, which is distinct from the built-in
latex-mode. However, when I test this on my set-up, I get the same
behaviour in any tex mode - plain-tex, latex, or LaTeX.

>
> As I previously stated, in latex mode, multiple presses of the " key
> (which is shift-') result in a pair of left-quotes (``) followed by
> pairs of right quotes ('').
>
> What do you mean, "in the same spot"?  

I mean don't press anything else between the first and second ". That
sounds like just what you're doing though, so I don't know why this
isn't working.

> Each keypress advances the
> cursor.  Using the cursor-movement keys to back up the cursor does not
> produce a " character.
>

Ok, I found out what's going on. The behaviour I described is standard
for Auctex as well as for the built-in Tex modes that come with
regular GNU Emacs. This is not the same in Xemacs. Presumably there
would be a way to customize Xemacs to behave like this, but it is not
there by default. I don't know enough about Xemacs to comment further.

Sorry for the confusion.

Tyler


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Re: 'mark' buttons of non-kde applications in kde

[Liam O'Toole]

On Fri, 25 May 2007 16:31:29 +0200
Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]

> From
> 16:18:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $GTK2_RC_FILES
> /johannes2/.gtkrc-2.0
> 
> I delete that file and now the buttons get this nice frame for the
> selected item. However, now the font used by these applications is
> big, fat and ugly. So big and fat, that I refuse to use them.
> 
> Is there a way of having a light nice font *plus* these little frames?
> 
> I tried Helvetica 10, New Courier 10, Console 10, but none of them
> worked.

Create a new gtkrc-2.0 file containing the following line:

gtk-font-name="Sans 8"

Obviously, you can experiment with the font size until you achieve the
desired effect.

I seem to remember there is an option in the Control Centre to apply
fonts and colour settings to non-KDE applications. You might want to
switch that option off, since the results are mixed, at best.

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Re: emacs bugs post upgrade to etch

[Tyler Smith]

On 2007-05-25, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352811
> Anybody managed to get emacs to give sensible fonts as opposed to chars
> like empty boxes? 

I've run into that before. In my case the source of the problem was
xorg, rather than Emacs. It was a long time ago now, and I can't
remember the specifics, but something about how xorg was looking for
fonts was screwed up.

Tyler


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Encrypted loopback filesystem

[Michael S. Peek]

Hi gurus,

I thought I would experiment with creating an encrypted loopback 
filesystem.  I've generated a file of random numbers, but I can't attack 
it to /dev/loop0:


# losetup -e serpent /dev/loop0 $(pwd)/file.bin
Password:
ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument

I did a quick google search, but what I've found refers to making sure 
that you have the modules and util-linux installed, and I 've got those 
(using Debian/Etch), and the loop and serpent modules are loaded.


What else can I check for?

Thanks for your help,

Michael


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Re: 'mark' buttons of non-kde applications in kde

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2007 14:42:41 +0200
> Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
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>> Dear all,
>>
>> I seem to have messed up my config a little. A few days ago I changed
>> my font selections (appearence) in control centre. Now my non-kde
>> applications don't 'mark' the selected button any more. The attached
>> screen shot shows that 'print' is marked, and so I can navigate with
>> 'tab' to the correct button and hit enter (without touching my mouse).
>>
>> This suddenly does not work for non-kde applications (iceweasel, etc.)
>> any more. How can I get it back, short of deleting all my profile?
> 
> I haven't used KDE for a while, but I remember that it can do strange
> things to GTK applications and to applications (like iceweasel) with
> strong GTK integration, when you play around with the Control Centre.
> 
> The way it works is that KDE adds a file to the path given by the
> environment variable GTK2_RC_FILES. Try editing or deleting that file,
> and see if the situation improves.

Thanks.

From
16:18:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $GTK2_RC_FILES
/johannes2/.gtkrc-2.0

I delete that file and now the buttons get this nice frame for the
selected item. However, now the font used by these applications is big,
fat and ugly. So big and fat, that I refuse to use them.

Is there a way of having a light nice font *plus* these little frames?

I tried Helvetica 10, New Courier 10, Console 10, but none of them worked.

Johannes
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Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 13:14 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
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> Linas Žvirblis wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> > Of course, certain types of glue on certain surfaces tend to leave ugly
> > sticky stains, but they can usually be removed with alcohol. But use it
> > only as a last resort, and be very careful - alcohol can melt certain
> > plastics.
>
>
> You mean '(dis)-solve'. That's why I didn't recommend ethanol, but an
> alcohol with a longer chain.

Actually, longer chain alcohols are much more likely to soften many (if
not most) plastics than shorter chain ones.  Differences that people may
see between ethanol and e.g. propanol can be influenced strongly by the
presence of water (rubbing alcohol--30% water, vs. relatively pure grain
alcohol--5% water).

It's a messy business.  :)


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Update

[Altair IV]

Update:  Removing the icedove package with the --purge option and reinstalling 
it (2.0.0.0-3) appears to fix everything.  It looks like there's no need to 
downgrade.


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Re: [semi-OT] Data archiving (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/25/07 09:04, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
[snip]
>> True.  However, for a small data set (under 1 GB) the need for three
>> copies means three hard drives.  Using a hard drive and rewriting over
>> it means that you loose old archives.  
> 
> If you have 1GB of data and a say 40GB hard disk that means about 40
> full backups on each. With incremental backups those would last much,
> much longer.
> 
> For your three disks you'd have 120 full backups! Of course in the case
> of failure you'd loose 40 of them, instead of loosing one unreadable CD,
> but I consider checking 120 CDs for unreadable sectors etc. a nightmare.

But isn't that putting all your eggs in one basket?  (Unless I'm
mis-reading you.)

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Experienced designer....

[Pannirshelvan]

Friend of mine gave me your contact and suggested that either:
•   you might be or
•   know someone who can assist 
With graphic design conceptualization, pre-press and print production. 

If you are an experienced individual, please let me know or could you put me in 
touch with two or three designers.

Grateful for your help!

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Re: [semi-OT] Data archiving (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 10:41:18AM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
>> Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>>> No.  I figure a CD is good for at least a year.  Every year, I
>>> pull the two netinst cds from the bank, take an SHA hash and compare it
>>> with the written notes, then run something like cdck on them.  So far,
>>> my Woody CDs are fine.  Funny enough, so is my woody floppy set (the
>>> whole shebang set of 20 floppies) on Maxell floppies; needed for my 486
>>> that doesn't boot from CD or run an installer after woody's.
>> Wow, you seem to have a lot of spare time. How long does it take you to
>> perform all these checks?
>>
> 
> My backup set isn't that large so only an hour or so.



>> I do backups to usb hard drives. They have 40GB to 120GB and it takes on
>> the order of 1 minute / GB to diff -r them.
>>
> 
> So how often to you fsck -c the filesystem so that it attempts to read
> every block so that in turn the drive hardware can handle fading
> sectors?  Hard drives on a shelf aren't maintenance-free either.

My point was not that they are maintenance-free. My point was that both
backups and maintenance are much faster.

>> Considering lifetime and how often you're able to rewrite / reuse the
>> media, they are cheaper per GB than CDs/DVDs.
>>
> 
> True.  However, for a small data set (under 1 GB) the need for three
> copies means three hard drives.  Using a hard drive and rewriting over
> it means that you loose old archives.  

If you have 1GB of data and a say 40GB hard disk that means about 40
full backups on each. With incremental backups those would last much,
much longer.

For your three disks you'd have 120 full backups! Of course in the case
of failure you'd loose 40 of them, instead of loosing one unreadable CD,
but I consider checking 120 CDs for unreadable sectors etc. a nightmare.

Just my .02

Johannes

NB: My backup system started out as DVD-RAMs, since those are said to be
more reliable than CDs/DVDs. I gave up on that scheme, when the data to
be backed up started to exceed 2 disks (and when my first DVD-Ram died -
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Purging and reinstalling fixes it.

[Altair IV]

I just came across this problem myself, too.  As suggested by others, I
purged the icedove package and reinstalled it (version 2.0.0.0-3), and now
it seems to be working.   No personal data appears to have been affected,
fortunately .
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Re: Me too

[michael]

On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 15:26 +0200, Altair IV wrote:
> The same thing has just happened to me.  After a regular system update which 
> boosted the program to 2.0.0.0-3, the whole program is hosed.  All of my 
> account information is gone, and half of the controls don't work.  That is, 
> when all of them don't work--sometimes all menu entries go grey.  I even 
> tried creating a new profile, but that did no good 'cause most of the setting 
> controls are borked.
> 
> Fortunately, it looks like all my mail and settings are still in the profile 
> folder; the new installation just doesn't seem to be able to read it.  I'm 
> about to do a downgrade in hopes that this will fix everything.
> 
> I'm using Debian Sid on an Athlon 1800+.
> 
>   

can you keep the context of the original msg so have a chance of knowing
what you're on about?


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Re: emacs bugs post upgrade to etch

[michael]

On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 14:37 +0100, michael wrote:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352811
> Anybody managed to get emacs to give sensible fonts as opposed to chars
> like empty boxes? My setup is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l|grep -i emacs;locale -a;set |grep -e LANG -e LC
> ii  emacs21.4a+1-3
> The GNU Emacs editor (metapackage)
> rc  emacs-goodies-el 26.9-1
> Miscellaneous add-ons for Emacs
> ii  emacs21  21.4a+1-3
> The GNU Emacs editor
> ii  emacs21-bin-common   21.4a+1-3
> The GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture dependent files
> ii  emacs21-common   21.4a+1-3
> The GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture independent infrastr
> ii  emacs21-el   21.4a+1-3
> GNU Emacs LISP (.el) files
> ii  emacsen-common   1.4.17
> Common facilities for all emacsen
> C
> en_GB
> en_GB.iso88591
> en_GB.iso885915
> en_GB.utf8
> POSIX
> LANG=en_GB
> LANGUAGE=en_GB:en_US:en_GB:en
> MAILCHECK=60
> 

Further info, I can start emacs:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/mpich2-1.0.5p4$ emacs -fn fixed

but if I then 'set font/fontset' several (eg Courier 12pt) give "font
not found", but others give me what I think is a reason font. But
occasionally 'set font/fontset' throws a segmentation fault

So a workaround is to alias emacs to eg emacs -fn 9x15

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Me too

[Altair IV]

The same thing has just happened to me.  After a regular system update which 
boosted the program to 2.0.0.0-3, the whole program is hosed.  All of my 
account information is gone, and half of the controls don't work.  That is, 
when all of them don't work--sometimes all menu entries go grey.  I even tried 
creating a new profile, but that did no good 'cause most of the setting 
controls are borked.

Fortunately, it looks like all my mail and settings are still in the profile 
folder; the new installation just doesn't seem to be able to read it.  I'm 
about to do a downgrade in hopes that this will fix everything.

I'm using Debian Sid on an Athlon 1800+.


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Re: need typewriter-style quotes in LaTeX mode of emacs

[Russell L. Harris]

* Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070524 20:49]:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> 
>> The XEmacs implementation which I am running appears to differ from
>> the implementation which you are running.
>> 
>> When in LaTeX mode, the first press of " produces a contiguous pair of
>> single left-quotes: `` and the second press of " produces a contiguous
>> pair of single right-quotes: ''
> 
> Are you not running AucTeX mode? You should be. apt-get install auctex .
> 
>> 
>> But this is a standard feature of Emacs/XEmacs LaTeX mode which most
>> of us take for granted, because in most applications printer's quotes
>> are desired, and pressing " at the beginning and end of the quotation
>> is easier than pressing ` twice and the beginning and ' twice at the
>> end.
> 
> That's why the first press gives you the appropriate typeset quote (`` or 
> '', respectively). The second press in the same spot changes it to a 
> typewriter quote ("), again based on AucTeX.


Auctex is installed (11.83-6).  This is a recent (less than two month
old) installation of Debian Lenny ("testing") via netinstall, kept up
to date with snaptic.  TeX is via TeXLive.

When a LaTeX document is loaded, XEmacs automatically selects the
following modes:  latex-mode, font-lock-mode, auto-fill mode.  There
appears to be no such thing as auctex-mode.  Turning off
font-lock-mode does not change the behaviour.

As I previously stated, in latex mode, multiple presses of the " key
(which is shift-') result in a pair of left-quotes (``) followed by
pairs of right quotes ('').

What do you mean, "in the same spot"?  Each keypress advances the
cursor.  Using the cursor-movement keys to back up the cursor does not
produce a " character.

RLH


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Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?

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> You mean '(dis)-solve'.

Yes, I do. Thank you for clarification.

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emacs bugs post upgrade to etch

[michael]

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352811
Anybody managed to get emacs to give sensible fonts as opposed to chars
like empty boxes? My setup is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l|grep -i emacs;locale -a;set |grep -e LANG -e LC
ii  emacs21.4a+1-3
The GNU Emacs editor (metapackage)
rc  emacs-goodies-el 26.9-1
Miscellaneous add-ons for Emacs
ii  emacs21  21.4a+1-3
The GNU Emacs editor
ii  emacs21-bin-common   21.4a+1-3
The GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture dependent files
ii  emacs21-common   21.4a+1-3
The GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture independent infrastr
ii  emacs21-el   21.4a+1-3
GNU Emacs LISP (.el) files
ii  emacsen-common   1.4.17
Common facilities for all emacsen
C
en_GB
en_GB.iso88591
en_GB.iso885915
en_GB.utf8
POSIX
LANG=en_GB
LANGUAGE=en_GB:en_US:en_GB:en
MAILCHECK=60




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Re: 'mark' buttons of non-kde applications in kde

[Liam O'Toole]

On Fri, 25 May 2007 14:42:41 +0200
Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I seem to have messed up my config a little. A few days ago I changed
> my font selections (appearence) in control centre. Now my non-kde
> applications don't 'mark' the selected button any more. The attached
> screen shot shows that 'print' is marked, and so I can navigate with
> 'tab' to the correct button and hit enter (without touching my mouse).
> 
> This suddenly does not work for non-kde applications (iceweasel, etc.)
> any more. How can I get it back, short of deleting all my profile?

I haven't used KDE for a while, but I remember that it can do strange
things to GTK applications and to applications (like iceweasel) with
strong GTK integration, when you play around with the Control Centre.

The way it works is that KDE adds a file to the path given by the
environment variable GTK2_RC_FILES. Try editing or deleting that file,
and see if the situation improves.

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Re: debian-multimedia bug reports?

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Rick Pasotto wrote:
> Today I encountered a fatal error when running ffmpeg. When I ran 
> reportbug it tells me that my version is newer than the debian
> version, probably because reportbug is not taking debian-multimedia
> into account. Should I go ahead and file a bug report using reportbug
> or by some other means?

You should use reportbug and debian's bug tracking system for problems
with packages from debian. debian-multimedia is *not* debian.

- From the web page at debian-multimedia.org:

> If you find some broken dependencies or bugs in these packages, tell
> me and don't report bugs to the BTS. Upstream bug report should be
> sent to the respective author. (See the copyright file in
> /usr/share/doc/  for upstream e-mail address)

Johannes
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evolution 2.6.3

[michael]

I've had a few problems when upgrading from sarge to etch, particular
with the new version of Evolution 2.6.3 dealing with IMAP accounts.

ii  evolution 2.6.3-6
groupware suite with mail client and organizer

Errors were particularly crytic messages about errors from server (some
to do with storage) and not being able to see any emails. (NB I could
still use webmail to see said accounts) 

After much trial and error, I found the following steps per IMAP account
resolved the errors:

for each account
  * ensure 'TLS encryption' is not selected under 'receiving
email' (I've switched to 'no encrytion'
  * ensure under 'receiving options' that 'show only subscribed folders'
is not selected [this step may not be always needed...]
  * save these changes, quit and restart Evolution

Hope that's of help to others!

Michael


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debian-multimedia bug reports?

[Rick Pasotto]

Today I encountered a fatal error when running ffmpeg. When I ran
reportbug it tells me that my version is newer than the debian version,
probably because reportbug is not taking debian-multimedia into account.
Should I go ahead and file a bug report using reportbug or by some
other means?

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 be good because the programmers hate it so much." -- Anonymous
Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net


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Re: Creating a local repos

[Douglas Allan Tutty]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 02:15:34PM +0600, Abu Zaher wrote:
> >
> >Just curious, why not use apt-proxy?
> >
> 
> Does apt-proxy store the packages in hierarchical order like apt-move
> (i.e. a real mirror).
> 

That's my understanding from the package description.  You point your
apt source at the repository that apt-proxy creates and if a package you
request isn't in the repository then it fetches it.

Doug.


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Re: How can I get debian linux?

[Douglas Allan Tutty]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 01:58:05PM +0800, 东集詹 wrote:
> Hi debian users,I am a new of linux.Some day I found debian linux and know
> much about this.As I learned, debian linux is the true linux os and there
> are so many components compress in the disk. I got interested in it. I hope
> to get it.But nothing is easy, when I planed to download it,I found that
> there is so large to download it, because my disk can surpose such large
> file. So the only way is to buy it. But that is just another way that cann't
> be used. Because,linux disk is so little in shoppes. So,the only way is to
> ask you for help. I love linux,I love debian!

I think you're saying that your computer right now (running whatever OS,
it doesn't matter) doesn't have room on the hard drive for an ISO image.

If your box has USB and you can get a USB stick (256 MB is fine), then
you may want to consider using the hd-media USB installation feature
found in the installation manual.

Basically, you download a small compressed image file that you can then
zcat directly onto a USB stick.  Then you can download the netinst.iso
file directly to the USB stick.  You then boot the stick and away you
go; no CD burning or large hard drive space required.

Doug.


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Re: [semi-OT] Data archiving (was Re: Query on adding a USB hdd)

[Douglas Allan Tutty]

On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 10:41:18AM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> > No.  I figure a CD is good for at least a year.  Every year, I
> > pull the two netinst cds from the bank, take an SHA hash and compare it
> > with the written notes, then run something like cdck on them.  So far,
> > my Woody CDs are fine.  Funny enough, so is my woody floppy set (the
> > whole shebang set of 20 floppies) on Maxell floppies; needed for my 486
> > that doesn't boot from CD or run an installer after woody's.
> 
> Wow, you seem to have a lot of spare time. How long does it take you to
> perform all these checks?
> 

My backup set isn't that large so only an hour or so.

> I do backups to usb hard drives. They have 40GB to 120GB and it takes on
> the order of 1 minute / GB to diff -r them.
> 

So how often to you fsck -c the filesystem so that it attempts to read
every block so that in turn the drive hardware can handle fading
sectors?  Hard drives on a shelf aren't maintenance-free either.

> Considering lifetime and how often you're able to rewrite / reuse the
> media, they are cheaper per GB than CDs/DVDs.
> 

True.  However, for a small data set (under 1 GB) the need for three
copies means three hard drives.  Using a hard drive and rewriting over
it means that you loose old archives.  




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'mark' buttons of non-kde applications in kde

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Dear all,

I seem to have messed up my config a little. A few days ago I changed my
font selections (appearence) in control centre. Now my non-kde
applications don't 'mark' the selected button any more. The attached
screen shot shows that 'print' is marked, and so I can navigate with
'tab' to the correct button and hit enter (without touching my mouse).

This suddenly does not work for non-kde applications (iceweasel, etc.)
any more. How can I get it back, short of deleting all my profile?

Thanks,
Johannes

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Re: Complete KDE crash (since last upadate)

[kristian . mailinglists]

- Nachricht von [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 23:30:57 +0200, kristian DOT mailinglists AT  
 ewetel DOT net wrote:

- Nachricht von Florian Kulzer -
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 08:37:02 +0200, kristian DOT mailinglists   
AT ewetel DOT net wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 20:12:49 +0200, kristian DOT   
mailinglists AT ewetel DOT net wrote:

Hi,

I have a big problem sincen the update on Monday evening, 21.5.
I use an aspire laptop with sid and kernel 2.6.20.

When I tried to login at kdm after the update, after giving the user
and
pass, the kde welcome-screen comes up. The start window with the
symbols
showing what  loads at the moment stopped at the second one (I think
"devices") for 30 seconds. After that I got my backround image (without
desktop icons) and a grey bottom-bar (where normally the kde-taskbar
is)
and a moveable mouse cursor. Nothing more! No interaction possible. I
installed fvwm to use my programs.


[...]


I tested KDE with a new user but it was the same. Then I listed my 3.5.7
packages, I got a long list with allmost all kde packages I have. The
only
3.5.6 packages are:

kde-i18n-de 4:3.5.6-1
ksync 4:3.5.6.dfsg.1-2

The german language package, could that be the problem?


I think a localization package should not have such a dramatic effect,
especially since we are not dealing with a major KDE upgrade, just a
change in the "third digit" of the version.


[ snip: I suggested trying to dist-upgrade again, just to make sure
  that all libraries are up-to-date ]


It would be fine, but I had no luck with that. The dist-upgrade runned, but
had not to install any new packages. So it did not work after a reboot
although. The .xsession-errors gave (me!) no hints at all:

Xsession: X session started for kristian at Do 24. Mai 23:28:22 CEST 2007
startkde: Starting up...
kbuildsycoca running...

Should I reinstall the complete kde packages?


kbuildsycoca is part of the package kdelibs4c2a. AFAIK, it is an
essential KDE component used to build the SYstem COnfiguration CAche
whenever KDE starts up or if the user changes a setting.

I would try the following from a text terminal while KDM (and X) are
completely shut down:

dpkg --force-depends --purge kdelibs4c2a kdelibs-data menu-xdg xbase-clients

aptitude install kdelibs4c2a kdelibs-data menu-xdg xbase-clients

(You can use another package manager to install the packages again if
 you do not normally use aptitude.)

Reboot and hope for the best...


OK, al little bit changed after the purging and reinstalling of the  
four packages. KDE shows the same behavior as before, but  
.xsession-errors shows a lot of WARNINGS about unknown mimetypes now.  
This warnings come only the first time after the reinstalling, maybe  
this is normal, I snipped it, because it is to long for this mail:


Xsession: X session started for kristian at Fr 25. Mai 13:47:43 CEST 2007
startkde: Starting up...
kbuildsycoca running...
Reusing existing ksycoca
kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : media_realfolder.desktop
kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file  
.hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under  
"apps" instead of "services"

kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'  
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde/amarok.desktop'  
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/asx'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde/amarok.desktop'  
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'audio/midi'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'ark_part.desktop' specifies undefined  
mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'


..SNIP...

kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop'  
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'video/x-mpeg2'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop'  
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'video/msvideo'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop'  
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'video/x-ms-afs'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop'  
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'video/x-ms-wmx'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop'  
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'video/x-ms-wvxvideo'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop'  
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'video/x-avi'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop'  
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'video/x-fli'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:  
'/home/kristian/.local/share/applications/iceweasel.desktop' specifies  
undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/rss+xml'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:  
'/home/kristian/.local/share/applications/iceweasel.desktop' specifies  
undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/rdf+xml'

Re: How can I get debian

[pinniped]

Aside from the numerous pure Debian vendors, if you don't mind 'Ubuntu' you 
might want to check if Canonical still offer to send you a free CD. Otherwise, 
'wget' has been ported to WinDos and is yet another tool which can resume a 
download. If your disk space is really too small then the 'net install' CDs 
might be the most useful for you. Take time to read the comments on the Debian 
website about the various images, approximate sizes, and then look through the 
online installation manual and look at the section about the specific install 
method you will use.


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Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Linas Žvirblis wrote:
[snip]

> Of course, certain types of glue on certain surfaces tend to leave ugly
> sticky stains, but they can usually be removed with alcohol. But use it
> only as a last resort, and be very careful - alcohol can melt certain
> plastics.
   
   
You mean '(dis)-solve'. That's why I didn't recommend ethanol, but an
alcohol with a longer chain.

[snip]

Johannes
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