Re: ClefAgreg
Bonjour, Peux-on créer la clé sans créer le cd ? Merci. Guy Francois Boisson a écrit : Bonjour, Pour mettre à jour ce projet (pour rappel, une clef USB boutable fondée sur une debian Etch avec les logiciels libres utilisés à l'agrégation de mathématiques, voir http://boisson.homeip.net/clef/ClefAgreg.html ), j'ai refait une version fondée sur un noyau 2.6.23 et n'utilisant cette fois que des paquets Debian Etch (plus quelques paquets persos, j'utilise les capacités de Xorg à s'autoconfigurer). Je met à disposition outre la clef complète http://franboisson.free.fr/clef/ClefAgreg-v3.0.iso, une clef de base http://franboisson.free.fr/clef/ClefAgregBase-3.0.iso permettant de se faire une clef personalisée (lire http://boisson.homeip.net/clef/clefsdivers.html pour voir comment) par simple ajout de paquets Debian. J'aurais besoin de retour (en mail privé ou sur le site) pour cette version notamment son comportement sur du matériel récent (CDrom SATA, USB exotique). Merci aux éventuels testeurs, et bon usage sinon. François Boisson -- Guy Roussin UMR TETIS Territoires, Environnement, Teledetection et Information Spatiale Maison de la Télédétection en Languedoc Roussillon 500, rue J.F. Breton 34093 MONTPELLIER Cedex 5 tél: 04.67.54.87.46 fax: 04.67.54.87.00 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Total HS] Choix imprimante laser multifonction + Linuxprinting.org
Le Thursday 10 January 2008 22:41:15 Vincent Gay, vous avez écrit : Olivier FONTES a écrit : Le seul soucis que j'ai constaté qui est mineur, c'est que après avoir utilisé la fonction de scan soit depuis xsane soit directement en utilisant la fonction photocopie, le periphérique imprimante devient indisponible. J'ai le même problème et ça me gonfle Si quelqu'un avait une autre solution, ce serait vraiment sympq Vincent j'ai le même problème comme sur cette canon j'ai turboprint je reset turboprint pour les imprimantes sous cups il faut, je pense, essayer sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart si ça marche se faire un petit fichier bash sur le bureau pmd
Re: [Total HS] Choix imprimante laser multifonction + Linuxprinting.org
Le Friday 11 January 2008 07:48:54 Pascal Ognibene, vous avez écrit : Aurelien a écrit : Salut, C'est les soldes et une copine à qui j'ai installé un Linux me demande ce qu'elle doit acheter comme imprimante. Alors, j'ai fouillé un peu sur le net, et notamment sur linuxprinting.org, histoire de vérifier les compatibilités, mais en fait, je ne suis pas très sûr de mon coup, ne m'étant pas intéressé aux imprimantes depûis longtemps. Elle veut une imprimante multifonction (scanner/imprimante/photocopieuse, pas de fax), laser, monochrome. j'ai vu quelques trucs, notamment une brother, un OKI et une HP. J'aurais naturellement penché pour la HP, mais j'ai été surpris de voir qu'elle est, tout comme la Brother, à mostly seulement sur linuxprinting.org, ce qui ne me rassure pas. Et du coup, je me suis demandé si linuxprinting.org ne s'occupait que de la partie imprimante des imprimantes multifonctions, ou traitait aussi de la partie scanner. Bref, je suis preneur de tout avis à ce sujet, du plus précis au plus large ! J'ai une Brother DCP 7025 (laser NB). L'impression marche avec un pilote cups en 1200*600 dpi (pourvu que CUPS soit assez récent, sinon un .ppd est fourni sur le CD de l'imprimante). Pour le scanner, brother fournit un driver sane en paquet .deb. Ca marche avec tout de même une limitation : je suis obligé de lancer sane en root. (il y a sûrement moyen de faire autrement mais je n'ai pas cherché longtemps. Mon précédent scanner, lui, fonctionnait pour peu qu'on soit dans le groupe scanner). Cette imprimante fait également photocopieuse de manière très correcte, avec un chargeur de document. Pascal pour lancer sane autrement qu'en root, il faut rajouter scanner au group en root: adduser mon_user scanner ou sinon appliquer ma petite méthode crassou (patchwork de googlelisation) là http://quidamlinuxien.blogspot.com/ pmd
Re: [HS] Recherche script de basculement d ecran pour laptop (XrandR)
Jean Baptiste Favre a écrit : Bonjour, Une recherche de : Fn+F7 sample script ubuntu sur google me renvoie au moins un lien potentiellement intéressant: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Sample_Fn-F7_script Merci bien. je viens de le trouver. Bon ben je crois que j'ai du boulot pour ce we... Ensuite, pour l'adapter, on pourra aller là: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 linké ici: http://www.x.org/wiki/Projects/XRandR) pour savoir comment sont appelées les sorties en fonction du driver. Merci! Voilà, @+ JB GiGGz a écrit : Bonjour la liste, Désolé pour ce petit HS. Dans le fil concernant le dual-head sur les carte Intel, un des intervenants a parlé de script permettant de passer en dual screen que l'on pourrait associé à la touche correspondante des laptop. Je cherche un script offrant le même fonctionnement que cette touche sous win, ie : une pression : on éteint la sortie VGA une pression : on clone la sortie VGA et l'écran LCD une pression : on passe en bureau étendu. Auriez vous vu un tel script sur le net ? Google ne m'a po trop aidé...trop de réponse. Merci d'avance Guillaume -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Son avec Intel HDA sur sortie numérique : pas facile...
ALSA peut aussi gérer les sources multiples via le plugin DMIX. Cela se déclare dans le fichier ~/.asoundc ou /etc/asound.conf Et du coup, plus besoin d'ESD Cdlt. Le 11/01/08, r rignier[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Essayer de remplacer ESD par alsa comme sortie sur toutes les applications utilisées? Alsa sait gérer les cannaux multiple quand le matériel le supporte.
Re: info-bulles de gnome
Le vendredi 11 janvier 2008 à 08:19 +0100, Pierre Crescenzo a écrit : Bonjour, Je suis en testing. Comment désactive-t-on les info-bulles de Gnome (bureau, panel, etc.) ? http://forums.fedora-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=24687 Merci, mais cela ne semble avoir aucun effet, même après redémarrage. Ah. Dans ce cas, pas d'autres idées. Avec ixquick, première réponse... Je ne comprends pas cette partie de la réponse. Pas grave. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[HS] Recherche script de basculement d ecran pour laptop (XrandR)
Bonjour la liste, Désolé pour ce petit HS. Dans le fil concernant le dual-head sur les carte Intel, un des intervenants a parlé de script permettant de passer en dual screen que l'on pourrait associé à la touche correspondante des laptop. Je cherche un script offrant le même fonctionnement que cette touche sous win, ie : une pression : on éteint la sortie VGA une pression : on clone la sortie VGA et l'écran LCD une pression : on passe en bureau étendu. Auriez vous vu un tel script sur le net ? Google ne m'a po trop aidé...trop de réponse. Merci d'avance Guillaume -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HS] Recherche script de basculement d ecran pour laptop (XrandR)
Bonjour, Une recherche de : Fn+F7 sample script ubuntu sur google me renvoie au moins un lien potentiellement intéressant: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Sample_Fn-F7_script Ensuite, pour l'adapter, on pourra aller là: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 linké ici: http://www.x.org/wiki/Projects/XRandR) pour savoir comment sont appelées les sorties en fonction du driver. Voilà, @+ JB GiGGz a écrit : Bonjour la liste, Désolé pour ce petit HS. Dans le fil concernant le dual-head sur les carte Intel, un des intervenants a parlé de script permettant de passer en dual screen que l'on pourrait associé à la touche correspondante des laptop. Je cherche un script offrant le même fonctionnement que cette touche sous win, ie : une pression : on éteint la sortie VGA une pression : on clone la sortie VGA et l'écran LCD une pression : on passe en bureau étendu. Auriez vous vu un tel script sur le net ? Google ne m'a po trop aidé...trop de réponse. Merci d'avance Guillaume -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Impossible d'imprimer depuis flash
Olivier FONTES a écrit :
| Ma commande d'impression est lpr
${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME}
|
| Apparemment c'est un pb connu (trouvé sur le launchpad ubuntu par ex)
mais je n'ai pas trouvé de solution...
|
| Si qqun a un pluginflash qui marche (je suis sûr que j'ai imprimé
depuis cette même appli flash il y a qq mois)
|
Si tu utilise cups, ce qui normalement est le cas, deux solutions:
La crados: remplacer la commande d'impression par lp -d
${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME}
= marche pas
La un peu plus propre: installer le paquet cupsys-bsd qui permet
d'utiliser lpr pour que cups imprime. Par défaut lp est la commande
d'impression de cups. De mémoire il me semble que c'est avec le paquet
cupsys-bsd que la commande lpr est disponible ...
J'avais déjà le paquet lpr (fournit par cupsys-bsd) sans avoir tout cupsys-bsd.
Je pense que le pb viens du plugin flash.
Si qqun arrive à imprimer un contenu flash avec flashplayer-mozilla ou flashplugin-nonfree, je lui serai très
reconnaissant de m'envoyer son libflashplayer.so ;-).
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Impossible d'imprimer depuis flash
Bonjour,
Je n'arrive pas à imprimer depuis flash, et ce quelque soit le navigateur.
J'ai testé avec iceweasel/galeon/epiphany et le plugin /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so v 9,0,115 (le
dernier), v 9,0,60,235 (version livrée avec la beta de flex) et un vieux 7,0,25, mais à chaque fois ça me donne
daniel 31543 11.8 5.9 160412 61048 ?Sl 14:06 0:08
/usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin -a firefox
daniel 31678 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?Z14:07 0:00 \_ [lpr]
defunct
et ça n'imprime rien.
J'ai testé avec un bête jpeg embarqué dans un swf v7 (http://contact.editionsdidier.com/imgs/test.swf), puis clic droit
/ imprimer (si vous testez, faites-le avec une imprimante pdf, ça économisera du papier et de l'encre ;-) ).
J'ai essayé de changer des params firefox (via l'url about:config, avec le filtre print), notamment passer le
print.use_native_print_dialog de false à true mais ça ne change rien.
Ma commande d'impression est lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME}
Apparemment c'est un pb connu (trouvé sur le launchpad ubuntu par ex) mais je
n'ai pas trouvé de solution...
Si qqun a un pluginflash qui marche (je suis sûr que j'ai imprimé depuis cette
même appli flash il y a qq mois)
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Re: ClefAgreg
Le Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:59:50 +0100 Guy Roussin [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Bonjour, Peux-on créer la clé sans créer le cd ? Merci. Je mettrais sur le site d'ici ce soir une version plus générale avec * avidemux * mplayer * audacity * gimp * Openoffice 2.3 avec java et le pilote jdbc pour mysql * Iceweasel avec plugin mplayer et java Le tout fait en gros 430 M. Ce sera http://franboisson.free.fr/clef/ClefOffi.iso (à partir de Vendredi soir ou Samedi) Sinon, deux façons de faire la clef sans CD. 1) Utilisation de VirtualBox ou de qemu si on arrive à faire marcher l'USB (qemu est nettement plus fiable mais je n'arrive pas à faire fonctionner l'USB). 2) À la «main»: la clef est supposée en /dev/sda, il faut syslinux Si la clef n'est pas sûre faire # mkdiskimage /dev/sda 0 64 32 (cela refait une gémotrie plus classique de la clef) Puis # mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 # cat /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin /dev/sda # mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usb # mount -o loop ClefAgreg-v3.0.iso /media/cdrom # (cd /media/cdrom ; tar c .) | (cd /media/usb ; tar x) # mv /media/usb/isolinux/minirt26.gz /media/usb # mv /media/usb/isolinux/linux26 /media/usb # mkdir -p /media/usb/home # cd # umount /media/cdrom # umount /media/sda1 # syslinux /media/sda1 François Boisson -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Impossible d'imprimer depuis flash
On Friday 11 January 2008 19:33:57 Daniel Caillibaud wrote: Il donne le même binaire, plus quelques autres. Meme nom, mais pas memes fonctionnalités - c.f. les sources. A+, JD.
Re: Impossible d'imprimer depuis flash
Frédéric Massot a écrit : J'avais déjà le paquet lpr (fourni par cupsys-bsd) sans avoir tout cupsys-bsd. Attention à ne pas mélanger la commande lpr avec le paquet lpr. La commande lpr est fournie par les paquets lpr et cupsys-bsd. Je ne mélange pas, le paquet lpr est bien fourni par le paquet cupsys-bsd, cf aptitude show lpr. Si tu utilises CUPS il vaut peut-être mieux utiliser le paquet cupsys-bsd. Il donne le même binaire, plus quelques autres. -- Daniel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ClefAgreg
Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 18:56 schrieb Francois Boisson: Le Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:59:50 +0100 Guy Roussin [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Bonjour, Peux-on créer la clé sans créer le cd ? Merci. Je mettrais sur le site d'ici ce soir une version plus générale avec * avidemux * mplayer * audacity * gimp * Openoffice 2.3 avec java et le pilote jdbc pour mysql * Iceweasel avec plugin mplayer et java Le tout fait en gros 430 M. Ce sera http://franboisson.free.fr/clef/ClefOffi.iso (à partir de Vendredi soir ou Samedi) Sinon, deux façons de faire la clef sans CD. 1) Utilisation de VirtualBox ou de qemu si on arrive à faire marcher l'USB (qemu est nettement plus fiable mais je n'arrive pas à faire fonctionner l'USB). Salut, et comment faire à partir de VirtualBox ? Klaus François Boisson
Re: [HS] bureau à distance
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai acheté un nouvel ordinateur. Bien plus puissant que ceux que j'avais déjà. L'idée serait que les ordinateurs moins puissant servent de terminaux X. À la fois l'idée et la réalisabilité me semblent assez ancienne ?? On a des postes de travail ; ils se connectent etc, etc il semble que ça existait déjà lorsqu'il y avait encore des dinosaurs.. Mais je n'ai pas trouvé de description d'un tel système sur internet.. Sûrement pas les bon mots-clé... Avé, http://www.blaess.fr/christophe/art_011.pdf est un document qui explique ce que tu veux faire. A plus. Jacques -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ClefAgreg
Le Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:01:22 +0100 Klaus Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: et comment faire à partir de VirtualBox ? Tu boutes sur l'image CD et tu fabriques la clef comme indiqué sur le site. Il faut le VirtualBox non libre qui accepte l'USB. J'ai essayé la manipulation et ça marche très bien. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Impossible d'imprimer depuis flash
Daniel Caillibaud wrote:
Olivier FONTES a écrit :
| Ma commande d'impression est lpr
${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME}
|
| Apparemment c'est un pb connu (trouvé sur le launchpad ubuntu par
ex) mais je n'ai pas trouvé de solution...
|
| Si qqun a un pluginflash qui marche (je suis sûr que j'ai imprimé
depuis cette même appli flash il y a qq mois)
|
Si tu utilise cups, ce qui normalement est le cas, deux solutions:
La crados: remplacer la commande d'impression par lp -d
${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME}
= marche pas
La un peu plus propre: installer le paquet cupsys-bsd qui permet
d'utiliser lpr pour que cups imprime. Par défaut lp est la commande
d'impression de cups. De mémoire il me semble que c'est avec le paquet
cupsys-bsd que la commande lpr est disponible ...
J'avais déjà le paquet lpr (fournit par cupsys-bsd) sans avoir tout
cupsys-bsd.
Attention à ne pas mélanger la commande lpr avec le paquet lpr. La
commande lpr est fournie par les paquets lpr et cupsys-bsd.
Si tu utilises CUPS il vaut peut-être mieux utiliser le paquet cupsys-bsd.
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Re: mise à jour woody vers sarge ou etch
Je ferais un apt-get install apt-get avant de faire le apt-get dist-upgrade. Apt à grandement évolué depuis sarge, il faut qu'il soit à jour avant d'installer le reste de la distib. On Thursday 10 January 2008 16:29:04 Jean-Michel OLTRA wrote: Bonjour, Le jeudi 10 janvier 2008, kabore yacouba a écrit... Lorsque je fais : # apt-get dist-upgrade , il y'a ce message qui s'affiche: 0 package upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. je vous donne le contenu de mon /etc/apt/source.list: deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r0 - Unofficial security and 3.0r1a update and extras disk from debian.ch (2003-09-24)]/packages/dists/woody/updates/ / deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r1 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-7 Il n'y a que des cdroms comme sources, le message reçu est donc normal. Comment veux tu donc qu'il aille chercher une mise à jour ? Voici le mien, qui est fort basique (lenny), mais qui te donnera une idée : #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20070802-09:21]/ lenny contrib main deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib Attention, Attention…C'est du Lenny, donc testing. Ne recopie pas le mien si tu veux du stable. Remplace dans ce cas lenny par etch ou sarge. Personnellement, je ferai d'abord une maj vers sarge, puis vers etch. A voir d'autres avis. Fais un `apt-get update` d'abord, pour charger la nouvelle liste de paquets. Puis tu peux essayer de voir les sorties de 'upgrade' et 'dist-upgrade' avec l'option --simulate d'apt-get. Le 'dist-upgrade' est souvent beaucoup plus sévère que le 'upgrade'. -- jm A.E.L. Sarl (R.C.S CASTRES 490843240) http://www.spidboutic.fr -- Thierry Leurent Phone : +32 476/20.23.98 E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website (en developpement) : http://www.asgardian.be
Re: [HS/Résolu] bureau à distance
--- Jacques [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai acheté un nouvel ordinateur. Bien plus puissant que ceux que j'avais déjà. L'idée serait que les ordinateurs moins puissant servent de terminaux X. À la fois l'idée et la réalisabilité me semblent assez ancienne ?? On a des postes de travail ; ils se connectent etc, etc il semble que ça existait déjà lorsqu'il y avait encore des dinosaurs.. Mais je n'ai pas trouvé de description d'un tel système sur internet.. Sûrement pas les bon mots-clé... Avé, Je profite de cette dernière (en date) réponse envoyée pour remercier _toutes_ les personnes qui m'ont répondu. Tous les points que j'avais soulevé ont obtenus des réponses, et au moins une dans chaque message. (Donc si qqun tombe sur ce fil, les réponses aux questions sont sûrement dedans). Je ne vais bien sûr :) pas vous dire tout de suite si ça a marché... Il faudra un peu de temps pour que je lise, ne serait-ce que les réponses en détail, puis une partie des documents, et enfin que je mette ça en place. La faisabilité, avec même éventuellement des outils anciens, ne faisant aucun doute pour tout le monde (et l'inutilité, éventuelle, des certaine solutions nouvelles comme VNC), ça devrait pouvoir se faire. Merci donc, FA http://www.blaess.fr/christophe/art_011.pdf est un document qui explique ce que tu veux faire. A plus. Jacques -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail http://mail.yahoo.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Total HS] Choix imprimante laser multifonction + Linuxprinting.org
J'ai une Brother DCP 7025 (laser NB). L'impression marche avec un pilote cups en 1200*600 dpi (pourvu que CUPS soit assez récent, sinon un .ppd est fourni sur le CD de l'imprimante). Pour le scanner, brother fournit un driver sane en paquet .deb. Ca marche avec tout de même une limitation : je suis obligé de lancer sane en root. (il y a sûrement moyen de faire autrement mais je n'ai pas cherché longtemps. Mon précédent scanner, lui, fonctionnait pour peu qu'on soit dans le groupe scanner). snip pour lancer sane autrement qu'en root, il faut rajouter scanner au group en root: adduser mon_user scanner ou sinon appliquer ma petite méthode crassou (patchwork de googlelisation) là http://quidamlinuxien.blogspot.com/ Merci, mais c'était déjà fait (comme mentionné dans mon mail puisque mon précédent scanner marchait très bien sans utilisateur root). J'ai mentionné le problème ici car le driver fourni par brother ne fonctionne pas si on se borne à l'utiliser avec quelqu'un qui a le groupe scanner : il faut vraiment être root. En tout cas, si on suit les instructions de brother. Pascal
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Re: Instalacion de debian
El mié, 09-01-2008 a las 14:36 -0500, Tonny escribió: en mi trabajo hay un server Sun Cobalt que queremos darle uso, claro esta quiero ponerle debian etch, el problema es que no tiene tarjeta de video, solamente tiene una ranura pci (aparentemente pero en el manual indica que solamente sirve para red, ya que una tarjeta de video antigua que probé no le funcionó ¿Hay forma de instalar debian sin tener video, osea remotamente? Si, tendrás que empezar por ver la instalación remota por tftp, esto es te tienes que montar tu propio servidor de bootp o pex (no conosco el cobalt) y prepara la imagen para que arranque de red, en el instalador se puede configurar para que la instalación se haga conectado por ssh desde una dirección determinada, te aseguro que se puede pues hace como dos años lo logre hacer con un blade al que no tenia acceso por la ilo, me costo un poco y por pura estupidez no lo documente, por lo que no me acuerdo de mas detalles, pero si quieres intentarlo estate seguro de que se puede. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT RAID vs LVM
El jue, 10-01-2008 a las 23:43 -0300, ciracusa escribió: Antonio Trujillo Carmona wrote: Hoy he montado un servidor para mi casa, dispongo de dos discos SATA de 200G, lo primero que pense fue ponerlo en RAID0 pero la posivilidad de rotura de un disco (no son nuevos) me dio miedo (perderia todo con la rotura de uno solo, por lo que decidí no hacerlo. Instalando debian vi la posibilidad de hacer un LVM con lo que podria agrupar los dos discos, eso seria como un RAID0 pero LVM permite reducir el grupo con lo que podría eliminar el disco que empiece a dar problemas y al sustituirlo por otro volver a ampliarlo. ¿Sera eso posible o si se rompe un disco se pierden todos los datos como en el RAID0? Antonio, según el caso que planteas (2 discos SATA), me podrías comentar que ventajas tienes de poner un LVM sobre utilizar ambos discos por separado (con las particiones adecuadas a tus necesidades)? Muchas Gracias. Salu2. Aunque se que en la lista el tema se ha desviado sobre pajas mentales filológicas prefiero que me escribas a través de la lista pues este dato puede ser útil a mas gente. La respuesta es simple, es un servidor personal no dedicado (que tambien puede servir de escritorio) en el que tienen acceso 4 personas (mi mujer mis dos hijos y yo) a demás de servir de servidor de ficheros de películas (para verlas en la tele con u TDT que permite ver películas compartidas por red). el sistema debian para este equipo ocupa 6G 2G para la swap me quedan 192G en un disco y 200G en otro, los directorios de usuario no creo que ocupen demasiado, por lo que a las malas tendré 300G para un único directorio compartido, aunque podría dividirlo en subcarpetas y enlazar unas carpetas de unas en otras para que todo fuera bien es mas simple unirlo todo a nivel lógico y despreocuparse del tema, claro lo malo de esto es en caso de averías, los datos de los usuarios no me preocupan pues los replicare en otra maquina, las películas es un poco mas coñazo pues me supondría tener que volver a ripear los dvd que tengo (y eso es mucho tiempo), como mi experiencia es que los discos suelen avisar cuando se van a romper lo único que quería saber es si seria posible, cuando me mosqueara con un disco añadir otro al grupo (como no tiene mas conectores SATA tendría que ser usb), mover físicamente los datos para que la zona del defectuoso quedara bacía, y reducir el grupo eliminando el defectuoso, posteriormente poner uno bueno y repetir el proceso para eliminar el usb del grupo. Por otro lado, si un disco se rompiese irremediablemente, ver si podría recuperar los datos del otro, esta claro que con un RAID0 no pues para ganar velocidad (es su fin) va escribiendo bites alternativamente en uno y otro disco, pero con lvm esto no es así, simplemente cuando se llena un volumen empieza a usar el otro, por lo que salvo a lo sumo el archivo que quedara a caballo entre los dos discos los demás están íntegramente en un único disco, por lo que no es descabellado pensar que se puedan recuperar, y en este caso el usar lvm sobre ir creando una estructura de enlaces seria comodidad. por ultimo queda el tema de aprender, a nivel profesional me dedico a la informática, en algunas maquinas (servidores) se configura el lvm para disponer de otras opciones (snapshot o instantaneas para las copias de seguridad y multipath o acceso a discos en SAN por canales redundantes), el usar lvm añade un grado de complejidad con el que me gustaría acostumbrarme por si me hace falta en el futuro. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: duda iptables
El jue, 10-01-2008 a las 08:32 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: Hola, quiero redireccionar un webserver que tengo en mi red local con ip privada iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d x.y.z.w -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j LOG --log-prefix lalala DNAT lalala iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d x.y.z.w -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination a.b.c.d x.y.z.w es la ip con la que me ve el mundo, a.b.c.d es el webserver que está en otra computadora. La primera línea es para hacer un log y ver si funciona. Pero no funciona, aunque hace el log. No funciona significa que solo obtengo timeouts en el navegador. Se me ocurrió agregar otra linea igual, pero con OUTPUT (para los paquetes generados en esa computadora) y cuando pongo en el navegador x.y.z.w me reenvía correctamente a a.b.c.d, la pregunta es: ¿que estoy haciendo mal en lo anterior? pd: tail /var/log/syslog Jan 10 08:44:51 localhost kernel: lalala DNAT lalala IN=eth2 OUT= MAC=00:08:54:45:8f:fd:00:1b:d5:0f:42:93:08:00 SRC=e.f.g.h DST=x.y.z.w LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=124 ID=47944 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=3682 DPT=80 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 Jan 10 08:44:57 localhost kernel: lalala DNAT lalala IN=eth2 OUT= MAC=00:08:54:45:8f:fd:00:1b:d5:0f:42:93:08:00 SRC=e.f.g.h 0 DST=x.y.z.w LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=124 ID=47945 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=3682 DPT=80 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0[/code] ¿eso significa que al menos lot está intentando? No estoy muy seguro pero creo que el problema esta en la ruta que siguen los paquetes, me explico un paquete con dirección A de fuera de tu red llega al router y este identifica que es una petición para el puerto 80 y lo redirige a la maquina correspondiente esta maquina recibe el paquete, lo ve como un marciano (que no corresponde a la red) y no sabe como contestarle. cuando la redirección es desde dentro de la red si funciona porque el paquete no es un marciano. Prueba a poner un MASQUERADE en el POSTROUTING para que el paquete no sea un marciano, seria al así como: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -o ethlaqueseainterna. y nos cuentas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [red LAN]
El mié, 09-01-2008 a las 18:25 -0430, alejandro escribió: ante todo Saludos estamos estrenando nuevo año Bueno desde mi ultima intervención en la listas ha pasado tiempo, esta vez estoy luchando para encontrar información sobre como montar una red LAN en debian y no he tenido resultados en google si saben de algún link que me de esta informacion por favor pasarmelo y si saben como montar una red lan en debian y explicarme paso a paso seria genial incluyendo un router, un server DNS y un switch ethernet multicapa necesito esa informacion y he buscado y aun no la encontre, aun sigo buscando en mi amigo google y no tan amigo yahoo es de carácter urgente se agradece la ayuda. Alejandro García estudiante de informática Hace tiempo existia algo llamado la guia el enrootador, no se si esta desfazada o no ni donde esta, puedes buscarla. Mira esta enlace: http://www.wikilearning.com/tutorial/guia_de_administracion_de_redes_con_linux-encaminamiento_ip/9586-18 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Instalacion de debian
El Divendres 11 Gener 2008 11:59, Antonio Trujillo Carmona va escriure: El mié, 09-01-2008 a las 14:36 -0500, Tonny escribió: en mi trabajo hay un server Sun Cobalt que queremos darle uso, claro esta quiero ponerle debian etch, el problema es que no tiene tarjeta de video, solamente tiene una ranura pci (aparentemente pero en el manual indica que solamente sirve para red, ya que una tarjeta de video antigua que probé no le funcionó ¿Hay forma de instalar debian sin tener video, osea remotamente? Si, tendrás que empezar por ver la instalación remota por tftp, esto es te tienes que montar tu propio servidor de bootp o pex (no conosco el cobalt) y prepara la imagen para que arranque de red, en el instalador se puede configurar para que la instalación se haga conectado por ssh desde una dirección determinada, te aseguro que se puede pues hace como dos años lo logre hacer con un blade al que no tenia acceso por la ilo, me costo un poco y por pura estupidez no lo documente, por lo que no me acuerdo de mas detalles, pero si quieres intentarlo estate seguro de que se puede. Tambien lo puedes hacer por NFS, es así cómo lo hicimos en el trabajo. A lo mejor esto [1] te puede ayudar. [1] http://www.cyrius.com/debian/cobalt/ Saludos. -- Adrià García-Alzórriz [EMAIL PROTECTED] No creo que haya que lamentarse sobre el propio destino, pero a veces es muy duro. -- Svetlana Stalin.
Re: duda iptables
El 11/01/08, Antonio Trujillo Carmona [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: El jue, 10-01-2008 a las 08:32 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: Hola, quiero redireccionar un webserver que tengo en mi red local con ip privada iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d x.y.z.w -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j LOG --log-prefix lalala DNAT lalala iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d x.y.z.w -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination a.b.c.d x.y.z.w es la ip con la que me ve el mundo, a.b.c.d es el webserver que está en otra computadora. La primera línea es para hacer un log y ver si funciona. Pero no funciona, aunque hace el log. No funciona significa que solo obtengo timeouts en el navegador. Se me ocurrió agregar otra linea igual, pero con OUTPUT (para los paquetes generados en esa computadora) y cuando pongo en el navegador x.y.z.w me reenvía correctamente a a.b.c.d, la pregunta es: ¿que estoy haciendo mal en lo anterior? pd: tail /var/log/syslog Jan 10 08:44:51 localhost kernel: lalala DNAT lalala IN=eth2 OUT= MAC=00:08:54:45:8f:fd:00:1b:d5:0f:42:93:08:00 SRC=e.f.g.h DST=x.y.z.w LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=124 ID=47944 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=3682 DPT=80 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 Jan 10 08:44:57 localhost kernel: lalala DNAT lalala IN=eth2 OUT= MAC=00:08:54:45:8f:fd:00:1b:d5:0f:42:93:08:00 SRC=e.f.g.h 0 DST=x.y.z.w LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=124 ID=47945 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=3682 DPT=80 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0[/code] ¿eso significa que al menos lot está intentando? No estoy muy seguro pero creo que el problema esta en la ruta que siguen los paquetes, me explico un paquete con dirección A de fuera de tu red llega al router y este identifica que es una petición para el puerto 80 y lo redirige a la maquina correspondiente esta maquina recibe el paquete, lo ve como un marciano (que no corresponde a la red) y no sabe como contestarle. cuando la redirección es desde dentro de la red si funciona porque el paquete no es un marciano. Prueba a poner un MASQUERADE en el POSTROUTING para que el paquete no sea un marciano, seria al así como: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -o ethlaqueseainterna. y nos cuentas Tiene sentido, pero estos días el nat está contra mí :'( Mis reglas quedaron (prefix: iptables -t nat) -A PREROUTING -d 190.136.36.34 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j LOG --log-prefix lalala DNAT afuera: -A PREROUTING -d 190.136.36.34 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.5 -A POSTROUTING -j LOG -o eth0--log-prefix MASQ--- -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE 190.136.36.34 es la ip pública y está en eth2. eth0 es la ip privada y 192.168.1.5 es donde quiero llegar. Hago la prueba y me sale el log 'normal' de la primera regla: Jan 11 10:36:38 localhost kernel: lalala DNAT afuera: IN=eth2 OUT= MAC=00:08:54:45:8f:fd:00:1b:d5:0f:42:93:08:00 SRC=190.137.215.130 DST=190.136.36.34 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=124 ID=10340 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=2843 DPT=80 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 Pero el log del enmascaramiento sale bien extraño: Jan 11 10:51:04 localhost kernel: MASQ---IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=172.20.2.251 DST=172.20.3.255 LEN=241 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=221 172.20.2.251/29 es la ip privada, eso va a otro router 172.20.2.13 que una de sus placas es a la red 192.168.1.0/24. Lo rarísimo para mi es que parece estar mandando al broadcast? (DST=172.20.3.255, mi máscara termina en 254.0, así que ese es el broadcast), suponiendo que dst signifique destination, no debería poner 192.168.1.5 o 172.20.2.13? -- http://fishblues.blogspot.com/ http://gonzalor.blogspot.com/ Nacemos desnudos, húmedos, hambrientos y con frío. ¡Y eso es sólo el principio!
Re: Re:[OT] Mi Debian se queda sin red al arrancar un windows en la red local
El 10/01/08, Alejo Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: - Original Message - From: Jonay Domingo Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:23 PM Subject: Re:[OT] Mi Debian se queda sin red al arrancar un windows en la red local Hola de un tiempo para acá he notado como mi máquina debian se queda sin red (al parecer el hub se queda colgado) cuando alguien arranca un windows (xp o vista) en la red local. El problema se soluciona cuando desenchufo el hub y lo vuelvo a enchufar pero la verdad es que resulta bastante molesto pues me fastidia todas las descargas. Todo va bien hasta que alguien mete el windows. ¿alguien sabe por qué puede pasar ésto y si existe alguna solución al respecto? Muchas gracias grupo. -- .-. | Miguel J. Jiménez | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | :-: | ISOTROL, S.A. | | Edificio BLUENET, Avda. Isaac Newton nº3, 4ª planta.| | Parque Tecnológico Cartuja '93, 41092 Sevilla (ESP).| | GPS: 37.408586°N, 6.0049081°W | | Teléfono: +34 955 036 800 (ext.1805) - Fax: +34 955 036 849 | | http://www.isotrol.com | :-: | PKS : hkp://pgp.rediris.es:11371 - KeyID : 0xFFE63EC6 | :-: | El conocimiento es simplemente una opinión en la que uno | | confia lo suficiente para actuar en base a ella. | | Orson Scott Card (Children Of The Mind) | '-' Me pasa parecido en la red local de mi casa. Dispongo de un router wifi y conecto a el dos máquinas. Mi laptop personal (debian etch), y un pc de sobremesa con Microsoft Windows. En ocasiones y siempre coincidiendo con que esté conectado el equipo windows, Debian pierde la red y aunque parece conectado al router no me permite acceder a él. Con reiniciar el router y sin tocar nada en Debian todo vuelve a la normalidad. No tengo ni idea de porque pasa esto, y como me ha pasado en contadas ocasiones y no suelo usar el ordenador para descargar cosas no le he dado importancia. Es curioso cuanto menos. Un saludo. Jonay. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Que raro, tengo una red montada sobre 3 servidores Debian etch, y 75 maquinas conectadas con windows XP y nunca tuve este problema... no se que tenga que ver, no sera algun problema de IPs o Puertas de Enlace o algo asi o problema con el nombre de los usuarios o con las mac o con los dominios??? (pregunto desde mi ignorancia) Saludos, Ale. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] O algun porblema con el firmware de la tarjeta de red, una vez un profesor me comentaba un problema bien raro que tenia con su tarjeta de red, y la solucion fue actualizar el firmware de esta. Saludos
Problemas con conexion PPP
Colegas. En mi empresa utilizo varias cuentas para correo, navegacion por WWW , etc Resulta que una de ella nunca me querido funcionar..y que conste que tengo los datos del telefono, usuario y contraseña perfectos. Cuando marco con wvdial me pone lo siguiente CONNECT 33600 -- Carrier detected. Starting PPP immediately. -- Starting pppd at Fri Dec 14 09:32:15 2007 -- pid of pppd: 11830 -- Using interface ppp0 -- Terminate Request -- * no quoted text found in `rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x5 Nn\034e\000\315t\000\000\002\3777663]' * -- Using interface ppp0 -- Terminate Request -- * no quoted text found in `sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3]' * -- Disconnecting at Fri Dec 14 09:32:25 2007 Caught signal #2! Attempting to exit gracefully... -- The PPP daemon has died. (exit code = 0) -- Auto Reconnect will be attempted in 5 seconds -- Disconnecting at Fri Dec 14 09:32:33 2007 He probado 1000 opciones en ppp y no doy con el problema...alguien que me de una LUZ en el asunto. Un saludo...Josué -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt guerrillero
Buenas, uso el mutt en etch, todo bien excepto la fecha que sale cuando respondes un correo que me sale en inglés: El Friday, 11 January del 2008 a las 07:31:13PM, Fulanito escribió: En el .muttrc tengo configurados los locales correctamente (me supongo): locale=[EMAIL PROTECTED] en consola: ($:~)locale [EMAIL PROTECTED] en .muttrc: set attribution=El %d, %n escribió: set date_format=%A, %d %B del %Y a las %I:%M:%S%p en consola: ($:~)date +%A, %d %B del %Y a las %I:%M:%S%p viernes, 11 enero del 2008 a las 08:19:56 Alguna idea? saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT]Problemas en Lista DEBIAN!
- Original Message - From: Felix Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:41 AM Subject: Re: [OT]Problemas en Lista DEBIAN! El 10/01/08, Takayuki Payperme Kun [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Que tal buen dia, al ver las respuestas que uno se encuentra creo que es una falta de lectura y hasta donde uno puede llegar, el quejarme de un SPAM no es por que tenga un correo en hotmail, simplemente es un llamado a todos los usuarios para que pongamos de nuestra parte y ayudamos a mejorar esa lista de SPAMS, no son pataletas ni lo menos, simplemente para darse cuenta. Creo que a veces el discutir un tema de estos es peligroso ya que como siempre hay usuarios que no le bajan a su ego, siento que esta comunidad si se le puede llamar asi, ya que no hay union entre nosotros mismos. Tambien agredezco a los usuarios que contestaron con algunas ideas para mejorar nuestra lista de los SPAMS y a los que no lo hicieron, por favor es una comunidad DEBIAN basta de atacarnos entre nosotros, yo se que a veces no es la solucion mandar un mail, pero si para tomar en cuenta o llegar a un acuerdo. Hola, primero que todo por favor respeta algunas normas basicas de la lista: No top posting No html etc. Si 15 correos basura piensas que bastan para opacar todo el trabajo y aporte de la lista, es tu decision personal buscar otros horizontes, y no puedes arrojarte la representacion de otros usuarios. Tengo almacenados en mi cuenta de gmail correos desde junio del 2005 y busque tu correo y solo apareces desde el 31 de noviembre del 2007 y ya te atreves a reclamar y cuestionar la lista y la comunidad. Personalmente con spam o sin el la lista es de una gran utilidad y creeme que un poco de spam no me alejará de ella.. Saludos. Visita: https://payperme.dontexist.com manuales y comos usuarios DEBIAN - Linux User #427179 - Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 21:23:11 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT]Problemas en Lista DEBIAN! CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org El 9/01/08, ChEnChO escribió: El 9/01/08, BasaBuru escribió: El Miércoles 09 Enero 2008 18:54:09 Takayuki Payperme Kun escribió: Que tal buen dia, yo se que la mayoria de usuarios estamos artos de recibir alrededor de 15 correos diarios de basura, por lo menos, Si pero es una realidad que habrá que afrontar. ahora no bastante con eso me llegan confirmaciones acerca de la lista de debian que solicita mi salida de la misma, esto es muy molesto, Ups...puedes postear una (entera) pa que la veamos??? ya que si esto sigue asi, nos obligara a muchos usuarios ha abandonar este herramienta tan util, pero que tristemente los idiotas lammers spammers estan llenando con basura, sencillamente han aumentado el trafico severamente. Ese de que obligará... a mi no creo. Pero eso es una decisión que solo te compete a ti. Estos comentarios no van a conseguir que la peña que esta currando en el tema curre más rápido 8=} Ojala alguien pudiera contestarme y confirmar si tienen el mismo problema de solicitudes falsas a la misma lista para abandonarla, ojala y se solucione esto ya, que me estoy enfadando de mandar alrededor de 10 correos diarios a list-spam. No se por que coño te enfadas con quien está arreglando el problema (lo dices implicitamente) la realidad es que existe el spam y nos están dando caña. No creo que correos con este tono sirvan para nada, mas que para rebotar a la peña. Ya hemos pasado por esto antes y se resolvió con trabajo de miembros de la comunidad Debian. Lo que puedes y supongo que harás es borrar el span y esperar a que lo solucionen. Pero con pataletas no vas a ninguna parte. Un saludo BasaBuru Quejarse de spam con una dirección de hotmail tiene delito. He dicho ZAS! en toda la boca! :) -- ... may the source be with you... _ Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista(R) + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_VideoChat_distantfamily_012008 -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista Coicido con lo de las normas, si todos cumplimos, mejor, por otro lado, el Spam, no es a diario, no recibimos 15 correos con Spam todos los dias, a veces (la mayor parte de los dias) no recibimos ninguno.o muy pocos. Renunciar a la lista, por uns estupidez como recibir algun correo Spam de vez en cuando, me parece irrisorio. por otro lado, me parece que se genera mas problemas a la lista, haciendo estos post interminables sobre discusiones que no llevan a nada, donde nos atacamos uno a otros, con mas de 20 o 30 correos cada uno, que recibir 2 o tres spam por dia... Hasta he visto correos que mandan los usuarios experimentados solamente insultando a
Servidor deja de transmitir
Buenas tardes Tengo un servidor con debian etch, el problema es que derrepente deja de funcionar la pagina que esta en este servidor es extraño porque dejo haciendo un ping por ejemplo a google.com, veo en la pantalla que lo esta haciendo correctamente voy a un ordenador y cargo la pagina de internet que reside en este todo bien, despues de un rato sigue haciendo el ping pero si trato de accesar la pagina ya no funciona. lo que tengo que hacer es ir a este servidor y hacer un ssh a otro servidor y empieza a funcionar nuevamente la pagina alguien sabe porque pasa esto y como lo puedo solucionar aparentemente el servidor como que se duerme y se desconecta de la red aunque me sigue haciendo pines a otras paginas. saludos oscar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE + XFCE4
buenas a todos los listeros... la cuestion es que quiero instalar xfce4 en lenny con kde,el problema es que para instalar xfce4 me dice de eliminar ciertos paquetes de kde (kdbase-dev ; kdlibs4-dev ; libkonq4-dev y otros) que a mi entender son paquetes necesarios para compilar y demas... Asi que debere instalar un entorno minimo, el tema que no se que paquete debo instalar,busco algo como xfce4-core , xfce4-desktop pero no existen. Alguien me podria decir cual/es deberia instalar para tener xfce4 minimo sin perjudicar mi KDE ? gracias anticipadamente saludos. _ Key ID :0x2B16BF9B21E4B3B5 hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net Telefono:(raspar aqui) | -- No soy un experto en Linux sino un simple aficcionado en busca del nirvana Debian :-). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Reiniciar seleccionando SO en kdm
Carlos Dávila escribió: A Dimecres 09 Gener 2008, Sebastian Obregoso va escriure: Carlos Dávila escribió: Hola a todos Tengo configurado kdm para que al seleccionar Terminar... del menú K aparezca el menú de grub bajo el botón Reiniciar el ordenador, con lo que puedo elegir con qué SO quiero que se reinicie el equipo. Hasta ahí todo bien, pero el problema es que no hace caso de la selección y arranca con la opción predeterminada de grub. ¿Sabe alguien cómo puedo solucionarlo? En tiempos tuve instalado suse, en el que esta opción venía por omisión y funcionaba correctamente. Un saludo Carlos Dávila Me pasa exactamente lo mismo, busque si había forma de arreglarlo, pero lo único que encontré es como asignar el grub como bootloader en el kde para que te muestre la lista de SOs al clickear en reboot, nada de errores como el que nos pasa a nosotros. :( Si alguien le paso, que de una mano en el tema. Lo mas triste es que seguro esta estupidez está en internes pero no lo fucking encuentro!!! Probad a poner en /boot/grub/menu.lst default saved i en cada entrada un savedefault Ejemplo: root(hd0,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.23-1-686 root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet vga=791 single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.23-1-686 savedefault Perfecto, con «defaultsaved» funciona correctamente. El «savedefault» ya lo tenía. Muchas gracias por la aportación. Salu2 Seba Hola, Yo tenia la configuración igual que Carlos, lo de saved funciono perfecto. No se porque le atribuía el problema a kde sin pensar en la configuración del grub. Gracias. Salu2 Seba __ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT]Problemas en Lista DEBIAN!
El 11/01/08, Alejo Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: - Original Message - From: Felix Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:41 AM Subject: Re: [OT]Problemas en Lista DEBIAN! El 10/01/08, Takayuki Payperme Kun [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Que tal buen dia, al ver las respuestas que uno se encuentra creo que es una falta de lectura y hasta donde uno puede llegar, el quejarme de un SPAM no es por que tenga un correo en hotmail, simplemente es un llamado a todos los usuarios para que pongamos de nuestra parte y ayudamos a mejorar esa lista de SPAMS, no son pataletas ni lo menos, simplemente para darse cuenta. Creo que a veces el discutir un tema de estos es peligroso ya que como siempre hay usuarios que no le bajan a su ego, siento que esta comunidad si se le puede llamar asi, ya que no hay union entre nosotros mismos. Tambien agredezco a los usuarios que contestaron con algunas ideas para mejorar nuestra lista de los SPAMS y a los que no lo hicieron, por favor es una comunidad DEBIAN basta de atacarnos entre nosotros, yo se que a veces no es la solucion mandar un mail, pero si para tomar en cuenta o llegar a un acuerdo. Hola, primero que todo por favor respeta algunas normas basicas de la lista: No top posting No html etc. Si 15 correos basura piensas que bastan para opacar todo el trabajo y aporte de la lista, es tu decision personal buscar otros horizontes, y no puedes arrojarte la representacion de otros usuarios. Tengo almacenados en mi cuenta de gmail correos desde junio del 2005 y busque tu correo y solo apareces desde el 31 de noviembre del 2007 y ya te atreves a reclamar y cuestionar la lista y la comunidad. Personalmente con spam o sin el la lista es de una gran utilidad y creeme que un poco de spam no me alejará de ella.. Saludos. Visita: https://payperme.dontexist.com manuales y comos usuarios DEBIAN - Linux User #427179 - Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 21:23:11 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT]Problemas en Lista DEBIAN! CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org El 9/01/08, ChEnChO escribió: El 9/01/08, BasaBuru escribió: El Miércoles 09 Enero 2008 18:54:09 Takayuki Payperme Kun escribió: Que tal buen dia, yo se que la mayoria de usuarios estamos artos de recibir alrededor de 15 correos diarios de basura, por lo menos, Si pero es una realidad que habrá que afrontar. ahora no bastante con eso me llegan confirmaciones acerca de la lista de debian que solicita mi salida de la misma, esto es muy molesto, Ups...puedes postear una (entera) pa que la veamos??? ya que si esto sigue asi, nos obligara a muchos usuarios ha abandonar este herramienta tan util, pero que tristemente los idiotas lammers spammers estan llenando con basura, sencillamente han aumentado el trafico severamente. Ese de que obligará... a mi no creo. Pero eso es una decisión que solo te compete a ti. Estos comentarios no van a conseguir que la peña que esta currando en el tema curre más rápido 8=} Ojala alguien pudiera contestarme y confirmar si tienen el mismo problema de solicitudes falsas a la misma lista para abandonarla, ojala y se solucione esto ya, que me estoy enfadando de mandar alrededor de 10 correos diarios a list-spam. No se por que coño te enfadas con quien está arreglando el problema (lo dices implicitamente) la realidad es que existe el spam y nos están dando caña. No creo que correos con este tono sirvan para nada, mas que para rebotar a la peña. Ya hemos pasado por esto antes y se resolvió con trabajo de miembros de la comunidad Debian. Lo que puedes y supongo que harás es borrar el span y esperar a que lo solucionen. Pero con pataletas no vas a ninguna parte. Un saludo BasaBuru Quejarse de spam con una dirección de hotmail tiene delito. He dicho ZAS! en toda la boca! :) -- ... may the source be with you... _ Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista(R) + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_VideoChat_distantfamily_012008 -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista Coicido con lo de las normas, si todos cumplimos, mejor, por otro lado, el Spam, no es a diario, no recibimos 15 correos con Spam todos los dias, a veces (la mayor parte de los dias) no recibimos ninguno.o muy pocos. Renunciar a la lista, por uns estupidez como recibir algun correo Spam de vez en cuando, me parece irrisorio. por otro lado, me parece que se genera mas problemas a la lista, haciendo estos post interminables
Compartir Ancho de Banda
Saludos... Necesito una forma interesante de dividir el ancho de banda de un servicio ADSL, el problema es el siguiente. Existe una galería que tiene varias tiendas, las cuales tienen mas de una computadora, la galeria adquiero un servicio de internet ADSL de 800 Kbps y la conexion es directa mediante un switch y las maquinas se conectan mediante dhcp, el problema radica que cuando alguno de los usuarios de la red usa algun p2p o torrent, nadie en toda la galería puede nisiquiera navegar en forma decente. Entre los requerimientos que me pusieron es que les asigne un ancho de banda equitativo según la cantidad de maquinas que en un x momento estén funcionando, que no les restrinja el uso de p2p y que tenga que ser dhcp. Ahora mi máximo problema es poder dividir el ancho de banda en un determinado tiempo, alguien me puede dar la receta? de antemano gracias -- --- ramirex - [powered by Linux] - weblog: http://ajayu.memi.umss.edu.bo/ramirex/ GPG Key ID: F36F6F8C
Re: Compartir Ancho de Banda
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 08:25:56PM -0400, ramirex wrote: [...] Existe una galería que tiene varias tiendas, las cuales tienen mas de una computadora, la galeria adquiero un servicio de internet ADSL de 800 Kbps y la conexion es directa mediante un switch y las maquinas se conectan mediante dhcp, el problema radica que cuando alguno de los usuarios de la red usa algun p2p o torrent, nadie en toda la galería puede nisiquiera navegar en forma decente. Entre los requerimientos que me pusieron es que les asigne un ancho de banda equitativo según la cantidad de maquinas que en un x momento estén funcionando, que no les restrinja el uso de p2p y que tenga que ser dhcp. Ahora mi máximo problema es poder dividir el ancho de banda en un determinado tiempo, alguien me puede dar la receta? [...] Yo lo haría haciendo que todo el tráfico de la galería pase por un router debian y usando el paquete iproute, en particular la clase HTB, para asignar el ancho de banda equitativamente. Mira http://lart.org -- Blu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Micro de 64 bits
Tengo una par dudas: Tengo un micro Intel core 2 duo. Quiero instalar lenny de 64 bits, pero lo único que encuentro en ADM64 ¿Está compilado para los AMD de 64 bits? Lo digo porque micros AMD tiene instrucciones propias que no tienen los Intel. Segundo: ¿Se puede instalar lenny en un disco externo o sigue sin poderse como ocurría con Etch? -- Saludos. OBERON 2.6.22.13-0.3-bigsmp i686 GNU/Linux #1 SMP 2007/11/19 15:02:58 UTC signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Compartir Ancho de Banda
On 11 ene, 20:00, Blu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 08:25:56PM -0400, ramirex wrote: [...] Existe una galería que tiene varias tiendas, las cuales tienen mas de una computadora, la galeria adquiero un servicio de internet ADSL de 800 Kbps y la conexion es directa mediante un switch y las maquinas se conectan mediante dhcp, el problema radica que cuando alguno de los usuarios de la red usa algun p2p o torrent, nadie en toda la galería puede nisiquiera navegar en forma decente. Entre los requerimientos que me pusieron es que les asigne un ancho de banda equitativo según la cantidad de maquinas que en un x momento estén funcionando, que no les restrinja el uso de p2p y que tenga que ser dhcp. Ahora mi máximo problema es poder dividir el ancho de banda en un determinado tiempo, alguien me puede dar la receta? [...] Yo lo haría haciendo que todo el tráfico de la galería pase por un router debian y usando el paquete iproute, en particular la clase HTB, para asignar el ancho de banda equitativamente. Mirahttp://lart.org -- Blu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lartc.org/ Falto la c xD Muy buena pagina por cierto Saludos
Re: Micro de 64 bits
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Doctor Nemo wrote:
Tengo una par dudas:
Tengo un micro Intel core 2 duo. Quiero instalar lenny de 64 bits, pero lo
único que encuentro en ADM64 ¿Está compilado para los AMD de 64 bits? Lo digo
porque micros AMD tiene instrucciones propias que no tienen los Intel.
Segundo: ¿Se puede instalar lenny en un disco externo o sigue sin poderse
como
ocurría con Etch?
Es amd64, es un problema ya, creo, el nombre de la arquitectura,
realmente es un emt64.
Sobre el disco externo, si la BIOS soporta el disco externo entonces si
puedes, sino, puedes instalar el grub en el local el el /boot y de ahí
montar el externo y de ahí arrancar.
Saludos.
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Java virker ikke i debian
Hej Gruppe. Jeg kan ikke få java til at virke i min nye debian distribution. Jeg håber der er nogen der kan hjælpe mig. Jeg har installeret jre-6u2-linux-i586.bin Det gik fint og installeringen sluttede med et fint Done Derefter har jeg oprettet en symbolsk lænke til mit .mozilla/plugins ln -s /usr/java/jre1.6.0_03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so Det virker bare ikke og jeg kan stadig ikke få min netbank til at virke. Det ser ud som om browseren tror den har java, for den spørger ikke længere om den skal installere et pluging, men java virker ikke i browseren. Desuden kan jeg heller ikke installere Limewire, der jo kører med java. Håber der er nogen der kan hjælpe. Mvh Kresten
Re: Java virker ikke i debian
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:59:27 +0100 Kresten Buch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hej Kresten. Tilføj non-free til din source.list og så kan du gøre følgende: # aptitude install sun-java6-plugin Det er alt, hvad du behøver gøre. Ingen grund til at installere den manuelt. Hej Gruppe. Jeg kan ikke få java til at virke i min nye debian distribution. Jeg håber der er nogen der kan hjælpe mig. Jeg har installeret jre-6u2-linux-i586.bin Det gik fint og installeringen sluttede med et fint Done Derefter har jeg oprettet en symbolsk lænke til mit .mozilla/plugins ln -s /usr/java/jre1.6.0_03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so Det virker bare ikke og jeg kan stadig ikke få min netbank til at virke. Det ser ud som om browseren tror den har java, for den spørger ikke længere om den skal installere et pluging, men java virker ikke i browseren. Desuden kan jeg heller ikke installere Limewire, der jo kører med java. Håber der er nogen der kan hjælpe. Mvh Kresten
Re: Placa Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE sem som
* Konnichiwa Paulo Roberto-sama: Oi Pessoal, Comprei recentemente uma placa creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE para ripar fitas k7. No entanto não consigo nem obter som da placa. Ela foi detectada e usando o alsaconf foi configurada normalmente. Desativei minha antiga placa onboard na bios. Independente do programa que uso (xmms, mplayer, vlc), em nenhum deles consigo audio, mesmo eles não detectando erro algum. Eu gostaria de saber se alguém já passou por problema parecido e pode me ajudar. Segue algumas informações sobre meu sistema (lspci, lsmod, dmesg, ls /dev/dsp*): Qual a saída do cat /proc/ioports ? Pelo que está parecendo, vc está carregando os drivers da placa CMI (onboard) tb. Use o modconf para remover esses módulos, pois pode ser que os programas estejam preparados para enviar as requisições para /dev/dsp e não para /dev/dsp1, que acredito ser o dispositivo da sua placa offboard. []'s, Still -- Nelson Luiz Campos Engenheiro Eletricista Linux User #89621 UIN 11464303 gnupgID: 55577339 Skype Still_by_Still signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Cyrus + Postfix + Dspam + Clamav + Spamassassim - Mensagem não é entregue
Valeu, vou refazer a instalação sem o mailscanner. Quando resolver, posto o resultado e o roteiro. []ão -- Leonardo Rosa PiraíDigital - Depto Softwares Livres Tutor - Informática (Bio Mat Adm) Universidade Federal Fluminense Linux User #425466 (counter.li.org) Debian GNU/Linux
Re: samba e impressoras...
desculpa se deixei dubia a minha pergunta, mas era isso mesmo que eu queria saber.. Em 10/01/08, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10-01-2008 20:21, Márcio Pedroso wrote: pra acessar uma impressora que esta em uma maquina win... tem que ter alguma configuraçao especial no smb.conf Isso era pra ser uma pergunta? Se era, então a resposta é não, você precisa configurar o CUPS para acessar a impressora via SMB e para isso precisa do cliente samba (samba-client), ou seja, não envolve configuração do smb.conf. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHhrUwCjAO0JDlykYRAqnGAJ0WtXxUH0FPXXKYkWVWHtZX8xpLnQCgoGdn dGdG4uCv2WdAa6pxFnaAKm0= =TweN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você?
Re: Abrir uma sessao rdesktop
uma conexao ssh... porque voce quer ou precisa usar o rdesktop? tem de ser ele? aconselho o ssh... voce vai trabalhar em linha de comando... 2008/1/10, gunix [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alguem saberia me dizer se é possivel abrir uma sessao rdesktop, apos carregado o X, sem que o X chame o XDM ou Gerenciador de janelas? Gostaria de fazer exatamento como o ltsp cosnegue fazer. Att Gustavo -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você?
Re: Login automatico no xdm
ta usando o gdm, kdm ou o xdm??? 2008/1/10, gunix [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Galera, alguem sabe como faço para conseguirlogar automaticamente no icewm? Att Gunix -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você?
Re: Login automatico no xdm
:) Coloqui na pergunta Porem mensionei errado quando perguntei. (Totalmente Errado) :) Como faço login automatico no xdm? Valeu Marcia Att Gunix 2008/1/11, Márcio Pedroso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ta usando o gdm, kdm ou o xdm??? 2008/1/10, gunix [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Galera, alguem sabe como faço para conseguirlogar automaticamente no icewm? Att Gunix -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você?
ltsp+ placa de rede silan
olá fórum uso o ltsp e minhas placas de rede dos terminais são todas realtek 8139. mas existe um clone das rtl8139, [mal]feito na china, que é reconhecido como silan9... gostaria de saber se algum dos colegas já conseguiu uma imagem para boot por essa placa, via pxe ou mesmo disquete. grato.
Re: Abrir uma sessao rdesktop
sabes que da de acionar o ssh em ambiente graficon ne Em 11/01/08, gunix [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Linha de comando nao. Na verdade preciso dele pelo motivo. Na empresa temos 100 PC e todos usando somente o ERP. Porem o ERP é uma sistema windows e infelizmente impossivel de emula-lo com o Wine. Porem todos os meus PC são terminal burros. Bom... Uso o LTSP e no mesmo consigo abrir diretamente a sessão rdesktop no lugar da XDM ou Gerenciador de login. Porem usando desta forma, no meu serviço de terminal service, aponta uma licença para cada terminal burro. Se eu optar, por logar no linux e depois abrir a sessao terminal, eu consumo apenas uma licença por dispositivo. Por este motivo to tentando... ou fazer com que depois do XDM eu acesse diretamente rdesktop com o xdm fazendo login autoimativo. Att Gustavo 2008/1/11, Márcio Pedroso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: uma conexao ssh... porque voce quer ou precisa usar o rdesktop? tem de ser ele? aconselho o ssh... voce vai trabalhar em linha de comando... 2008/1/10, gunix [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alguem saberia me dizer se é possivel abrir uma sessao rdesktop, apos carregado o X, sem que o X chame o XDM ou Gerenciador de janelas? Gostaria de fazer exatamento como o ltsp cosnegue fazer. Att Gustavo -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você?
Re: Cyrus + Postfix + Dspam + Clamav + Sp amassassim - Mensagem não é entregue
Leonardo Rosa escreveu: Valeu, vou refazer a instalação sem o mailscanner. Quando resolver, posto o resultado e o roteiro. []ão Eu não diria que seria uma questão de simplesmente remover o Mailscanner, de alguma coisa você precisa para fazer a intermediação com o antispam e o antivirus. E retirar o Mailscanner não explicaria porque as assinaturas não foram encontradas. Atenciosamente. Edmundo Valle Neto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DATa do Sistema
Em 10/01/08, Junior Polegato - Linux[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Clayton Nogueira escreveu: Tenho um servidor de e-mail postfix, rodando no Debian 4.0, meu horário de envio de e-mails está correto, mas meu horário de recebimento de mensagens está uma hora atrasada, rodando o comando date , a data e hora estão corretas, mas quando recebo algum e-mail, recebo com 1 hora de atraso. Alguém sabe me dizer porque isso pode estar acontecendo ?! Olá, No caso o horário da sua máquina com Postfix e aque recebe pode estar correto, mas uma está com GMT-3, e outra, quando no horário de verão deveria, está com GMT-2. Então as mensagens chegam em uma máquina configurada com GMT diferente com 1 hora de diferença. Exemplos: 1. Postfix manda às 15:00h = GMT-3 (GMT = 18:00h), máquina que recebe está com GMT-2, então recebe com horário de 16:00h. 2. Postfix manda às 15:00h = GMT-2 (GMT = 17:00h), máquina que recebe está com GMT-3, então recebe com horário de 14:00h. No primeiro caso, tem que acerta na máquina com Postfix, pois estamos em horário de verão. No segundo caso, tem que acertar na máquina que recebe, pois o Postfix está correto. -- Atenciosamente, Junior Polegato Um peregrino de problemas; Um pergaminho de soluções! Página Profissional: http://www.juniorpolegato.com.br Bom amigos, no meu servidor eu atualizei a data e hora com o comando #date ficou belezinha. no Servidor de Dados da empresa, Win 2003 server, a hora tb está atualizada, no entanto continuo percebendo a diferença de horários nos e-mails. Abraço. -- Att, Clayton Nogueira Analista de Suporte Linux User nro. #448808 Ubuntu User nro. # 15799
Re: DATa do Sistema
Clayton Nogueira escreveu: Em 10/01/08, Junior Polegato - Linux[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Clayton Nogueira escreveu: Tenho um servidor de e-mail postfix, rodando no Debian 4.0, meu horário de envio de e-mails está correto, mas meu horário de recebimento de mensagens está uma hora atrasada, rodando o comando date , a data e hora estão corretas, mas quando recebo algum e-mail, recebo com 1 hora de atraso. Alguém sabe me dizer porque isso pode estar acontecendo ? No caso o horário da sua máquina com Postfix e aque recebe pode estar correto, mas uma está com GMT-3, e outra, quando no horário de verão deveria, está com GMT-2. Então as mensagens chegam em uma máquina configurada com GMT diferente com 1 hora de diferença. Exemplos: 1. Postfix manda às 15:00h = GMT-3 (GMT = 18:00h), máquina que recebe está com GMT-2, então recebe com horário de 16:00h. 2. Postfix manda às 15:00h = GMT-2 (GMT = 17:00h), máquina que recebe está com GMT-3, então recebe com horário de 14:00h. No primeiro caso, tem que acerta na máquina com Postfix, pois estamos em horário de verão. No segundo caso, tem que acertar na máquina que recebe, pois o Postfix está correto. Bom amigos, no meu servidor eu atualizei a data e hora com o comando #date ficou belezinha. no Servidor de Dados da empresa, Win 2003 server, a hora tb está atualizada, no entanto continuo percebendo a diferença de horários nos e-mails. Olá, E como está seu time zone no linux: $ date +%z%Z -- Atenciosamente, Junior Polegato Um peregrino de problemas; Um pergaminho de soluções! Página Profissional: http://www.juniorpolegato.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DATa do Sistema
Em 11/01/08, Clayton Nogueira[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Em 11/01/08, Junior Polegato - Linux[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Clayton Nogueira escreveu: Em 10/01/08, Junior Polegato - Linux[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Clayton Nogueira escreveu: Tenho um servidor de e-mail postfix, rodando no Debian 4.0, meu horário de envio de e-mails está correto, mas meu horário de recebimento de mensagens está uma hora atrasada, rodando o comando date , a data e hora estão corretas, mas quando recebo algum e-mail, recebo com 1 hora de atraso. Alguém sabe me dizer porque isso pode estar acontecendo ? No caso o horário da sua máquina com Postfix e aque recebe pode estar correto, mas uma está com GMT-3, e outra, quando no horário de verão deveria, está com GMT-2. Então as mensagens chegam em uma máquina configurada com GMT diferente com 1 hora de diferença. Exemplos: 1. Postfix manda às 15:00h = GMT-3 (GMT = 18:00h), máquina que recebe está com GMT-2, então recebe com horário de 16:00h. 2. Postfix manda às 15:00h = GMT-2 (GMT = 17:00h), máquina que recebe está com GMT-3, então recebe com horário de 14:00h. No primeiro caso, tem que acerta na máquina com Postfix, pois estamos em horário de verão. No segundo caso, tem que acertar na máquina que recebe, pois o Postfix está correto. Bom amigos, no meu servidor eu atualizei a data e hora com o comando #date ficou belezinha. no Servidor de Dados da empresa, Win 2003 server, a hora tb está atualizada, no entanto continuo percebendo a diferença de horários nos e-mails. Olá, E como está seu time zone no linux: $ date +%z%Z -- Atenciosamente, Junior Polegato Um peregrino de problemas; Um pergaminho de soluções! Página Profissional: http://www.juniorpolegato.com.br a saída do comando é #-0200BRST esse é o problema então né ?! -- Att, Clayton Nogueira Analista de Suporte Linux User nro. #448808 Ubuntu User nro. # 15799 Desculpem-me perguntar de novo. mas agora descobri que realmente o meu problema é com o horário em UTC que está com 2 horas adiantadas... tentei alterar e até agora nada, alguém tem algum passo mais simples para fazer isso ?! -- Att, Clayton Nogueira Analista de Suporte Linux User nro. #448808 Ubuntu User nro. # 15799
Re: DATa do Sistema
Clayton Nogueira escreveu: Em 11/01/08, Junior Polegato - Linux[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Clayton Nogueira escreveu: Em 10/01/08, Junior Polegato - Linux[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu Clayton Nogueira escreveu Tenho um servidor de e-mail postfix, rodando no Debian 4.0, meu horário de envio de e-mails está correto, mas meu horário de recebimento de mensagens está uma hora atrasada, rodando o comando date , a data e hora estão corretas, mas quando recebo algum e-mail, recebo com 1 hora de atraso. Alguém sabe me dizer porque isso pode estar acontecendo ? No caso o horário da sua máquina com Postfix e aque recebe pode estar correto, mas uma está com GMT-3, e outra, quando no horário de verão deveria, está com GMT-2. Então as mensagens chegam em uma máquina configurada com GMT diferente com 1 hora de diferença. Exemplos: 1. Postfix manda às 15:00h = GMT-3 (GMT = 18:00h), máquina que recebe está com GMT-2, então recebe com horário de 16:00h. 2. Postfix manda às 15:00h = GMT-2 (GMT = 17:00h), máquina que recebe está com GMT-3, então recebe com horário de 14:00h. No primeiro caso, tem que acerta na máquina com Postfix, pois estamos em horário de verão. No segundo caso, tem que acertar na máquina que recebe, pois o Postfix está correto Bom amigos, no meu servidor eu atualizei a data e hora com o comando #date ficou belezinha. no Servidor de Dados da empresa, Win 2003 server, a hora tb está atualizada, no entanto continuo percebendo a diferença de horários nos e-mails E como está seu time zone no linux: $ date +%z%Z a saída do comando é #-0200BRST esse é o problema então né ?! Não, seu servidor está corretíssimo! O problema é no cliente que não está com o time zone correto. Não sei como corrigir isso no Windows, se é que o cliente é Windows. Se o cliente for Linux, utilize os pacotes tz*. -- Atenciosamente, Junior Polegato Um peregrino de problemas; Um pergaminho de soluções! Página Profissional: http://www.juniorpolegato.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DATa do Sistema
Em 11/01/08, Junior Polegato - Linux[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Clayton Nogueira escreveu: Em 10/01/08, Junior Polegato - Linux[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Clayton Nogueira escreveu: Tenho um servidor de e-mail postfix, rodando no Debian 4.0, meu horário de envio de e-mails está correto, mas meu horário de recebimento de mensagens está uma hora atrasada, rodando o comando date , a data e hora estão corretas, mas quando recebo algum e-mail, recebo com 1 hora de atraso. Alguém sabe me dizer porque isso pode estar acontecendo ? No caso o horário da sua máquina com Postfix e aque recebe pode estar correto, mas uma está com GMT-3, e outra, quando no horário de verão deveria, está com GMT-2. Então as mensagens chegam em uma máquina configurada com GMT diferente com 1 hora de diferença. Exemplos: 1. Postfix manda às 15:00h = GMT-3 (GMT = 18:00h), máquina que recebe está com GMT-2, então recebe com horário de 16:00h. 2. Postfix manda às 15:00h = GMT-2 (GMT = 17:00h), máquina que recebe está com GMT-3, então recebe com horário de 14:00h. No primeiro caso, tem que acerta na máquina com Postfix, pois estamos em horário de verão. No segundo caso, tem que acertar na máquina que recebe, pois o Postfix está correto. Bom amigos, no meu servidor eu atualizei a data e hora com o comando #date ficou belezinha. no Servidor de Dados da empresa, Win 2003 server, a hora tb está atualizada, no entanto continuo percebendo a diferença de horários nos e-mails. Olá, E como está seu time zone no linux: $ date +%z%Z -- Atenciosamente, Junior Polegato Um peregrino de problemas; Um pergaminho de soluções! Página Profissional: http://www.juniorpolegato.com.br a saída do comando é #-0200BRST esse é o problema então né ?! -- Att, Clayton Nogueira Analista de Suporte Linux User nro. #448808 Ubuntu User nro. # 15799
Re: Placa Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE sem som
Removi o módulo cmipci e continua sem som em nenhuma aplicação e elas não estão trabalhando normalmente. Agora claro só tenho o /dev/dsp Algo q não falei antes mas q continua acontecendo. O firefox começa a consumir 99% do cpu qdo coloco pra tocar algum audio, o gmplayer apresenta o seguinte erro: [AO_ALSA] Unable to find simple control 'PCM',0 #lsmod | grep snd snd_ca0106 29412 1 snd_rawmidi22944 1 snd_ca0106 snd_ac97_codec 82912 1 snd_ca0106 snd_seq_device 7692 1 snd_rawmidi snd_pcm68744 2 snd_ca0106,snd_ac97_codec snd_timer 20932 1 snd_pcm snd_ac97_bus2240 1 snd_ac97_codec snd46756 8 snd_ca0106,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer snd_page_alloc 9480 2 snd_ca0106,snd_pcm soundcore 9248 1 snd # cat /proc/ioports -001f : dma1 0020-0021 : pic1 0040-0043 : timer0 0050-0053 : timer1 0060-006f : keyboard 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00a1 : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 0170-0177 : ide1 01f0-01f7 : ide0 0290-0297 : pnp 00:0f 0290-0297 : it87-isa 02f8-02ff : serial 0376-0376 : ide1 0378-037a : parport0 03c0-03df : vesafb 03f2-03f5 : floppy 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f7-03f7 : floppy DIR 03f8-03ff : serial 0480-048f : pnp 00:02 0500-0507 : pnp 00:0f 0778-077a : parport0 0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1 a000-a0ff : :00:0c.0 a000-a0ff : 8139too a400-a47f : :00:0b.0 a800-a81f : :00:0a.0 a800-a81f : snd_ca0106 b000-b0ff : :00:05.0 d800-d80f : :00:02.5 d800-d807 : ide0 d808-d80f : ide1 e400-e47f : motherboard e400-e403 : ACPI PM1a_EVT_BLK e404-e405 : ACPI PM1a_CNT_BLK e408-e40b : ACPI PM_TMR e420-e423 : ACPI GPE0_BLK e480-e4ff : motherboard e480-e4ff : pnp 00:02 e600-e61f : :00:02.1 e600-e61f : motherboard e600-e61f : pnp 00:02 e600-e61f : sis96x_smbus Obrigado Still, Mais alguma luz? Still wrote: * Konnichiwa Paulo Roberto-sama: Oi Pessoal, Comprei recentemente uma placa creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE para ripar fitas k7. No entanto não consigo nem obter som da placa. Ela foi detectada e usando o alsaconf foi configurada normalmente. Desativei minha antiga placa onboard na bios. Independente do programa que uso (xmms, mplayer, vlc), em nenhum deles consigo audio, mesmo eles não detectando erro algum. Eu gostaria de saber se alguém já passou por problema parecido e pode me ajudar. Segue algumas informações sobre meu sistema (lspci, lsmod, dmesg, ls /dev/dsp*): Qual a saída do cat /proc/ioports ? Pelo que está parecendo, vc está carregando os drivers da placa CMI (onboard) tb. Use o modconf para remover esses módulos, pois pode ser que os programas estejam preparados para enviar as requisições para /dev/dsp e não para /dev/dsp1, que acredito ser o dispositivo da sua placa offboard. []'s, Still -- Nelson Luiz Campos Engenheiro Eletricista Linux User #89621 UIN 11464303 gnupgID: 55577339 Skype Still_by_Still -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: server kurulumu
Ayşe Dursun yazmış: merhaba http://www.howtoforge.net/perfect_setup_debian_etch bu adresteki tutorial den serveri kurdum. üzerine ispconfig kurdum. server şu an problemsiz çalışıyor. ispconfig'in stabil çalışması ve güvenirliliği konusu hakkında bilgim yok. Bu şekilde internete açmam güvenli olurmu olmaz mı ? bu siteden tüm bunları tutorial a dayalı yaptım. * Web Server: Apache 2.2 * Database Server: MySQL 5.0 * Mail Server: Postfix * DNS Server: BIND9 bu server ların yönetimi konusunda daha detayıl bilgi edinmek istiyorum. önerebileceğiniz bir kaynak, site var mı ? yardımlarınızı bekliyorum. şimdiden teşekkürler. Ispconfig sağlam olduğu uzun süredir bilinen bir uygulamadır. Ama eğer içinizin rahat etmesini isterseniz; her bağlantı için bant genişliğini sınırlayan ve saldırılara karşı sizi koruyabilecek bir ek firewall ya da sisteme eklenecek bir betik işinize yaratacaktır. Ama ispconfig aslen sistemdeki yerel paketleri kullandığından sistem işleyişi bakımından sorunsuzdur. Ispconfig betiğinin kendisi ile ilgili ise senelerdir (3 sene) kulanmama rağmen 24 saat içinde çözümlenmemiş ve yaması yayınlanmamış hiçbir sorun ile karşılaşmadığımı söylemeliyim. Sisteminiz muhtemelen piyasadaki bir çok sunucu üründen daha sağlamdır şu an. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
server yönetimi hakkında kaynak
ISPconfig ile herşey otomatik oluyor. ben bunların manuel configure etmeyi öğrenmek istiyorum.bu server ların yönetimi konusunda daha detayıl bilgi edinmek istiyorum. önerebileceğiniz bir kaynak, site var mı ? - Web Server: Apache 2.2 - Database Server: MySQL 5.0 - Mail Server: Postfix - DNS Server: BIND9
Re: server yönetimi hakkında kaynak
Ayşe Dursun yazmış: ISPconfig ile herşey otomatik oluyor. ben bunların manuel configure etmeyi öğrenmek istiyorum.bu server ların yönetimi konusunda daha detayıl bilgi edinmek istiyorum. önerebileceğiniz bir kaynak, site var mı ? Sunucu kavramı tek bir açıklaması olan bir kavram değildir. Sunucudan ne beklediğinize bağlı olarak değişir. Eposta sunucunuzda ne gibi özellikler olsun web sunucunuz ne iş yapacak mysql veri tabanlarınız nasıl olacak gibi bir sürü sorunun analizi ve cevaplanması gerekir. bu ihtiyaçlarınızın mesela ispconfig ya da smeserver, adminsparadise gibi ürünlerle çakıştığı durumlarda bu ürünler işinizi kolaylaştırabilir. Bunun dışında ne yapacağınız ise yardımın ötesinde bir analiz olmaya başlar. bu nedenle hem sistemle ilgili daha fazla bilgi edinmemizi, edinmenizi hem de daha ciddi zaman harcamamızı, harcamanızı gerektirir. Bir de mümkünse ürün odaklı değil de ihtiyaç odaklı başlarsanız işe daha hızlı yol alma ihtimaliniz yükselecektir. Saygılarımla, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Midnight Commander + file(1) sorunu
Recai Oktaş yazmış: Merhaba, Bir kaç zamandır dikkatimi çeken bir sorunla bugün ilgilenme fırsatı buldum. Benzer sorundan muzdarip olanlara da yararlı olabilir düşüncesiyle buraya yazayım dedim. Midnight Commander, nam-ı diğer mc sık kullandığım bir programdır. Bu sık kullandığım programda en sık yaptığım işlem de F3 (veya Enter) tuşu ile dosyalara bakmak veya F4 ile düzenlemek. Gel gelelim makinede tam tarihini hatırlayamadığım bir güncellemeden beri mc'deki bu göz atma ve düzenleme işlemlerinde, özellikle büyük dosyalarda, olağanüstü bir yavaşlık oluyordu. Örnek vermem gerekirse, 170K civarı bir dosyaya (1.4GHz'lik Pentium M işlemcili makinede) F3 ile bakınma işlemi yaklaşık 9 sn sürüyordu. strace(1) ile programın ne iş çevirdiğini inceledim ve bu bakınma/düzenleme işlemlerinde mc'nin dosya tipini tayin etmek için file(1) komutunu fork ettiğini farkettim. Yani (en azından bu makinede) sorun file(1) komutunda: $ du -h iri.tex 172Kiri.tex $ file --version file-4.21 magic file from /etc/magic:/usr/share/file/magic $ time file iri.tex iri.tex: LaTeX 2e document text real0m9.232s user0m8.865s sys 0m0.016s Görüldüğü gibi file(1) kararını ~9 s'de veriyor! Süreç zamanı ağırlıklı olarak user tarafında olduğundan bunun çekirdek ile alakalı olmadığını düşünebiliriz. Sorun Türkçe'ye özel mi? $ (export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8; time file iri.tex) iri.tex: LaTeX 2e document text real0m3.190s user0m3.092s sys 0m0.008s Biraz öyle görünüyor. Devam edelim... $ (export LC_ALL=C; time file iri.tex) iri.tex: LaTeX 2e document text real0m0.076s user0m0.060s sys 0m0.000s Sonuç: $ echo 9.232/0.076 | bc 121 121 katlık bir fark! Öyle anlaşılıyor ki file(1)'ın bu yeni sürümlerinde öncelikle UTF8 ile alakalı ve Türkçe işin içine girdiğinde katmerleşen bir sorun var. Burada verdiğim rakamları (mümkünse farklı dağıtımlarda) siz de doğrularsanız memnun olurum, hata raporu geçmeden önce emin olalım. Geçici bir çözüm olarak aşağıdaki adımları uyguladım: $ cp /usr/bin/file /usr/bin/file.exec $ cat /usr/bin/file #!/bin/sh LC_ALL=C exec /usr/bin/file.exec $@ (bu noktada Ctrl-D tuşluyoruz) Tabii bu çözümün yan etkileri olacaktır mutlaka. Yine de önceden 9 s'de açılan bir dosyayı saniye altında açmak için buna değer... etch'deki sürüm 4.17'de sorun yok gibi görünüyor. @debian:~$ file --version file-4.17 magic file from /etc/magic:/usr/share/file/magic @debian:~$ ls -lh mbox -rw--- 1 mert mert 209K Dec 22 20:16 mbox @debian:~$ time file mbox mbox: UTF-8 Unicode mail text real0m0.066s user0m0.048s sys 0m0.008s @debian:~$ (export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8; time file mbox) mbox: UTF-8 Unicode mail text real0m0.062s user0m0.040s sys 0m0.016s @debian:~$ (export LC_ALL=C; time file mbox) mbox: UTF-8 Unicode mail text real0m0.068s user0m0.044s sys 0m0.008s @debian:~$ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to report a problem with new 4.0r2 DVD images?
But now images for DVD 2 and 3 have some missing files at dists/etch/contrib/binary-i386. Currently we only have Release file at DVD 2 and 3. Comparing with DVD 1 we have Release, Packages.gz and Packages. On DVD 2 and 3 directory /pool/contrib does not exist. Because of that apt complains it cannot find Packages.gz for contrib and then break update process. Just remove contrib item from DVD 2 and 3 lines in /etc/apt/sources.list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burn CD
On 1/10/08, steef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hce wrote: On 1/8/08, steef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hce wrote: Hi, Is following burn CD command correct? I've got following errors: $ sudo cdrecord -scanbus cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page. 1,1,0 101) '' 'ATAPI CDROM ' '110B' Removable CD-ROM 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * $ sudo cdrecord -v -eject speed=1 dev=1,1,0 cd.iso cdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent defaults. cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '1,0,0' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 cdrecord: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. Thank you. Jim hi, what are you trying to burn: data, i guess? if so: include -data and -pad. what i remember of cdrecord: you should point to dev=ATAPI:1,1,0 , try further with -tao or -dao within the command. hope this helps. reg., To burn photos (JPG files) in iso. I tried following command, but failed again: $ sudo cdrecord dev=ATAPI:1,1,0 speed=1 -tao -v -eject cd1.iso TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: 'ATAPI:1,1,0' devname: 'ATAPI' scsibus: 1 target: 1 lun: 0 Use of ATA is preferred over ATAPI. Warning: Using ATA Packet interface. Warning: The related Linux kernel interface code seems to be unmaintained. Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow. Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 1 cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: '' Identifikation : 'ATAPI CDROM ' Revision : '110B' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-ROM. cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page. cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page. cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page. cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page. cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page. cdrecord: Sorry, no CD/DVD-Recorder or unsupported CD/DVD-Recorder found on this target. cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wron Thanks steef and hth. Jim hi, cdrecord does not seem to accept your burner.. strange, but not unprecedented. i had a comparable problem with an optiac burner last year. you *could* try to insert -data and -pad on your commandline, but i do not think that will be much of a difference. in your position i should install wodim. for me wodim ended these problems. Ok, I am going to install wodim (I've never used it, may take me days to learn it). Years ago, seems everyone used cdrecord for burning CD. Is it in now days that the wodim is more popular than the cdrecord? Thanks steef and Bob. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mount dvd error
On 1/10/08, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 08:36:22PM +1100, hce wrote: On 1/9/08, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 10:10:14PM +1100, hce wrote: Is cdck a command? I could not find it, or should I install it, what is the package? package cdck. All right, I installed cdck package. Here is the interesting test: 1. In my linux box for a DVD which could not be read, it was an error: $ sudo cdck -d /dev/hdc Unable to read TOC because unable to read TOC, reason: Input/output error. Why sudo? If you are able to play a cd or watch a dvd as yourself then you shouldn't need sudo. If you can't I don't know if sudo would help. I acutally tried both sudo or without sudo, it got the same result. You are right, I should not use the sudo in the first place. But, if I put that dvd disk to another machine Window XP OS, it works fine. 2. In my linux box, I put another DVD disk: $ sudo cdck -d /dev/hdc ! TOC and lseek() return different information about size , using lseek()'s number of sectors which is 2077024 Reading sectors 1-2077024 2077024 ok CD overall: Sectors total: 2077024: Good sectors: 2077024: Bad sectors (incl. with poor timing): 0 CD timings: Minimal = 11 usec (0.11s) Maximal = 151716 usec (0.151716s) Average = 204 usec (0.000204s) The linux box DVD drive works fine for some disks, but not for one disk which can be read from a window XP box, what is that tell me, my linux box dvd drive (LG Multi RW) is low quality, or not reliable? Same drive as me, I think, and I never have any problems. 3. Is it correct for any blank CD / DVD it prints out: $ sudo cdck -d /dev/hdd Unable to read TOC because unable to open cdrom '/dev/hdd', reason: No medium found Well, any blank CD / DVD wouldn't have a TOC. cdck may not be written to handle such things gracefully. The drive/driver also may not be able to tell the difference between no medium and blank medium if you ask it to read the medium. If, with a known good CD, if you can't play it as yourself, i.e. without sudo, then your problem may be a permissions thing. Ensure that you are in the cdrom, audio, and video groups. Solve this problem first. Then use cdck without sudo. Re DVDs, have you got the codecs from debian-multimedia.org? I.e. do you have their repository in your sources.list and do you have the necessary recommended/suggest packages of the dvd libs? You may be missing whatever it is you need to play that DVD. I have no problem to play DVD video as long as the DVD disk can be detected and read by the DVD drive. The problem was only for the particular DVD disk which cannot be detected and read by my debina linux, but can be read by a window XP machine, that is really bothers me. Thank you. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vesa 1280x800
Hello! Can somebody help me how to set up 1280x800 on Etch with vesa driver? For me only 1280x720 is working. (video is SiS672) regards, -- Kum Gabor www.kumgabor.hu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl realted..?
On Jan 11, 4:20 am, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ISHWAR RATTAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I am coming back toperlafter a long time.
The sample code these days also uses variable attribute my as:
my $inst = Extutils::Installed-new();
my @modules = $inst-modules();
Can any demistify 'my' for me??
-
#!/usr/bin/perl
# this just re-implements tail -1
#
# usage:
# /this/file /some/text/file.txt
#
my $last;
while( ) {
$last = $_;
}
print $last;
-
Now, try with the my $last; *inside* the while(). That last print
line won't have a clue what $last is.
That doesn't sound right to me. Scope doesn't change in a loop. All
of this code is in the same scope, so the print statement will work
fine.
If you move the loop to a subroutine, then the two $last variables
will be independant due to separate scopes:
my $last=foo;
$bar=scan_loop();
print $bar;
print $last;
sub scan_loop{
my $last;
while( ){
$last=$_;
return $last;
}
}
This will print out the last line and then foo because there are two
$last values, the one in the original scope and the one in the
subroutine scope.
-pedxing
NTFS and discover1
Hi, as a new user I am puzzled about the inability of my Debian installation to handle NTFS-partitions from start. I installed in expert mode and chose to install support for NTFS. The NTFS-partitions are shown alright if I click the My Computer icon on my Gnome desktop. But they cannot be mounted when I click at the icons. I get an error message from pmount stating that they cannot be mounted because they are not detachable. (The partitions are on fixed drives.) I note that the NTFS-partitions are mounted for reading if I boot with a KNOPPIX CD. I searched the documentation and found that KNOPPIX uses kudzu (and not discover1) for hardware detection. Synaptic doesn't offer kudzu for Debian. hwinfo uses parts of kudzu, but cannot be used for hardware detection. Have I overlooked some settings during the installation? Or are there any flaws in discover1? It might be useful to add some instructions for NTFS in the installation manual. Yours, Per Tunedal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GLIBC 2.4 for Debian Etch
Hello! Does somebody know something easy method of upgrading GLIBC to version 2.4 from 2.3.6 without upgrading Etch to Lenny? thanks, -- Kum Gabor www.kumgabor.hu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burn CD
Ok, I am going to install wodim (I've never used it, may take me days to learn it). Years ago, seems everyone used cdrecord for burning CD. Is it in now days that the wodim is more popular than the cdrecord? Why do you believe that an extremely outdated version from cdrecord where somebody even added bugs could become more popular than the official maintained software? If you don't know this, wodim _is_ an extremely outdated cdrecord where some people added bugs that never have been in the original. The answer is that some Linux distributions try to force their users to use the defective fork instead of the original because they don't like to cooperate with the author. Get a recent original from ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ and make sure to install cdrecord/readcd/cdda2wav suid root. Note that even the mkisofs variant from the fork (called genisoimage) is full of nasty bugs that cause filesystem inconsisties. Linux may ignore these filesystem inconsisties but if you like to use your media on other platorms or even with future Linux versions you should prefer maintained original software. The cdrkit project is dead since more than 8 months and it had only 8 months of speudo activities do not bet on a dead horse. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED: subversion/apache2 errors
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 09:28 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've tried numerous variations for getting subversion working on apache2 but whatever I tried gave the Could not open the requested SVN filesystem error. Does anybody have a simple guide to getting this working on Debian etch? Particularly, I guess, the necessary permissions for the repository (I'm using /usr/local/SUBVERSION for the root for repositories eg /usr/local/SUBVERSION/repos1). Thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, could you please indicate your commands or more info ? Note: if I remember correctly, three characters '/' are needed, eg. svn import . file:///var/svn/repos/test Here's some more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/apache2/mods-available$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload Forcing reload of web server (apache2)... waiting . [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/apache2/mods-available$ ps -elf | grep apache2 1 S root 20585 1 0 78 0 - 2664 - 09:56 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 5 S www-data 20586 20585 0 84 0 - 2607 377250 09:56 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 5 S www-data 20587 20585 0 85 0 - 58037 pipe_w 09:56 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 5 S www-data 20589 20585 0 84 0 - 57998 pipe_w 09:56 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 0 S michael 20648 20429 0 78 0 - 820 pipe_w 09:56 pts/300:00:00 grep apache2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/apache2/mods-available$ grep -v -e '^#' -e ' #' dav_svn.conf|cat -s Location /svn DAV svn SVNPath /var/www/michael/SUB /Location [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/apache2/mods-available$ ls -alt /var/www/michael/SUB/test/ total 36 drwxr-xr-x 7 www-data www-data 4096 Jan 11 10:05 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 www-data www-data 4096 Jan 11 10:05 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jan 11 10:05 conf/ drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jan 11 10:05 dav/ drwxr-sr-x 5 www-data www-data 4096 Jan 11 10:05 db/ -r--r--r-- 1 www-data www-data2 Jan 11 10:05 format drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jan 11 10:05 hooks/ drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jan 11 10:05 locks/ -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 229 Jan 11 10:05 README.txt I've now realised that my mistake was to have SVNPath /var/www/michael/SUB rather than SVNParentPath /var/www/michael/SUB (since I want to repositorites below SUB) Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl realted..?
On Jan 11, 4:20 am, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ISHWAR RATTAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I am coming back to perl after a long time.
The sample code these days also uses variable attribute my as:
my $inst = Extutils::Installed-new();
my @modules = $inst-modules();
Can any demistify 'my' for me??
-
#!/usr/bin/perl
# this just re-implements tail -1
#
# usage:
# /this/file /some/text/file.txt
#
my $last;
while( ) {
$last = $_;
}
print $last;
-
Now, try with the my $last; *inside* the while(). That last print
line won't have a clue what $last is.
my $last;
my $bar;
while( ){
$last=foo;
$bar=different_scope($_);
}
print $bar;
print $last;
sub different_scope{
my $last=$_[0];
return $last;
}
Actually, this is a better example, because it will actually work
#;-). But the point is that scope doesn't change in a loop, but it
does in a subroutine.
-pedxing
Re: Burn CD
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 07:35:51PM +1100, hce wrote: Ok, I am going to install wodim (I've never used it, may take me days to learn it). Years ago, seems everyone used cdrecord for burning CD. Is it in now days that the wodim is more popular than the cdrecord? Thanks steef and Bob. Jim Hello, that is apparently a long story if you start to read into it. It has somenthing to do with licensing and philosophy. As far as I can tell from a user standpoint, the programs appear to be almost pin for pin from the command line as far as options and what not. Also if your sure that the device your trying to write to is a burner, I would create a symbolic link called cdrw in your /dev directory to that specific device file. It keeps the fudge factor down, and keeps you from declaring the device in your command. Or, wodim from trying to guess the device. Good Luck P. Lane -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burn CD
hce: Ok, I am going to install wodim (I've never used it, may take me days to learn it). Years ago, seems everyone used cdrecord for burning CD. Is it in now days that the wodim is more popular than the cdrecord? That depends on your definition of popularity. :) Wodim is nothing but a fork of a quite old version of cdrecord and, as far as I know, only exists inside Debian. The main reason for this fork are a dispute over Jörg Schilling's (cdrecord author) licensing and (at least I think so) the difficulties between the Debian maintainers and Jörg Schilling. If you search this list's archives for mails from Schilling, you will probably find a whole lot of flame fests with insults coming from both sides. Debian maintainers aren't the only ones finding it difficult to work with Schilling, though, and as far as I can tell the licensing concerns from the Debian crowd are (partly) valid. But obviously there are various opinions on the subject. Jörg Schilling appears to scan Debian lists for discussions about cdrecord/wodim anyway, so there is only a very small chance to miss his point of view in case you're interested. :) However, from a user's point of view, wodim is a drop-in replacement for cdrecord as a CD (and DVD?) burning application. It works almost exactly, if not better in some respects, like cdrecord did a few years ago (I don't know which version of cdrecord wodim is based on). On the other hand, wodim doesn't appear to be actively developed anymore, only maintained. But since I have never had any problems with it, I don't care very much. J. -- Fashion is more important to me than war, famine, disease or art. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
modem hungup forever
hi all, after the latest update when my internet connection break down, my modem don't disconnect the port ttys0, infact if I try to connect again (with pon and poff) there isn't any connection. I try also to install again ppp, but there is the same problem. any ideas, please? my messages/syslog log: Jan 11 10:58:48 xxx kernel: PPP generic driver version 2.4.2 Jan 11 10:58:48 xxx pppd[3461]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0 Jan 11 10:58:49 xxx chat[3464]: abort on (BUSY) Jan 11 10:58:49 xxx chat[3464]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Jan 11 10:58:49 xxx chat[3464]: abort on (VOICE) Jan 11 10:58:49 xxx chat[3464]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Jan 11 10:58:49 xxx chat[3464]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE) Jan 11 10:58:49 xxx chat[3464]: abort on (NO ANSWER) Jan 11 10:58:49 xxx chat[3464]: abort on (DELAYED) Jan 11 10:58:49 xxx chat[3464]: send (ATZ^M) Jan 11 10:58:49 xxx chat[3464]: expect (OK) Jan 11 10:58:49 xxx chat[3464]: ATZ^M^M -- In internet il saper leggere è uguale al saper ascoltare nella realtà, chi sa ascoltare possiede le chiavi di molte porte Rashna Micaela Gallerini
Re: Burn CD
When Debian changed from cdrtools to wodim, k3b never noticed and I went along merrily burning CDs and DVDs. Nary a problem noted. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Goodbye
Am 2008-01-08 08:09:58, schrieb Joel Roberts: I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement some anti-spam measures, I'll be happy to join again in the future. There's no reason for this quantity of spam to be making it through on a mailing list. - END OF REPLIED MESSAGE - Sorry, but if the list organizers shutdown the spamfilters, you would not stay longer as 5 minutes in this list :-) I have gotten over 5 million SPAM between 2007-12-17 and 2008-01-05 and only arround 800 coming through... I do not asume you have goten the same amount of spam, maybe not even 5000 so you have gotten around 1 spam in this time if you would use a spamfilter on your system... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: dying disk - data recovery recommendations
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Find a way to attach that drive to a functional system. One way would be to use a 2.5 portable USB enclosure. No. from my experience USB will hang if the drive hit a wrong sector. You should: - attach the disk to an internal IDE (or sata) cable - use dd_rescue to copy the image to a file (can be long) (or gddrescue) - fsck the copied image. Do not run fsck on a failing disk, it will make thing worse. HTH -- Dominique Dumont Delivering successful solutions requires giving people what they need, not what they want. Kurt Bittner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burn CD
Hello, that is apparently a long story if you start to read into it. It has somenthing to do with licensing and philosophy. As far as I can tell The story has nothing to do with licensing or philosophy but with the missing will for quality oriented collaboration with the Author. The attacks against the cdrtools project started after I rejected to integrate a patch into the official source because it did not solve the problem but instead added bugs. from a user standpoint, the programs appear to be almost pin for pin from the command line as far as options and what not. Also if your sure that the device your trying to write to is a burner, I would create a symbolic link called cdrw in your /dev directory to that specific device file. It keeps the fudge factor down, and keeps you from declaring the device in your command. Or, wodim from trying to guess the device. You do not need to play these silly /dev/ games if you use the original cdrecord. If you only have one drive (this should be the case for 95% of all users), simply omit the dev= parameter and cdecord will automagically find your drive. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Flash memory
It is way off but some one will direct me to the right place.. I am interested in knowing the storage and access architecture of 'Flash Memory'. Storage: how is the storage viewed? Contiguous or block based, is it possible to have random access etc. As comparison to hard-disk scenario is the access overhead (seek/rtotational/transfer delays) - do such concepts apply to flash memory? Access: USB interface is serial by nature, so, is the data accessed in a serial/sequential way or some other technique is used? Thanks for your time. -ishwar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNU style Changelog for SVN in Emacs (was: emacs and svn)
Hi, I've asked in the Emacs NG, but have not gotten help. I've recently migrated a small repository to subversion from CVS. I used to work with PCL-CVS with Emacs to interact with my working copies and repository, generating the necessary Changelog entries with 'A' (the equivalent of `vc-update-change-log' from the global VC system). I'm now doing this with the psvn.el library, which doesn't provide a similar mechanism. Unfortunately, `vc-update-change-log' is not implemented for SVN, so it seems we're left with the nasty task of generating the Changelog entries manually. How do folks automate this? -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl realted..?
On Jan 10, 2008 1:23 PM, Chris Howie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 1:11 PM, ISHWAR RATTAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am coming back to perl after a long time. The sample code these days also uses variable attribute my as: my $inst = Extutils::Installed-new(); my @modules = $inst-modules(); Can any demistify 'my' for me?? -ishwar my declares a variable that exists within the current scope and is unreachable from outside the scope. So a my declaration in one package cannot be reached from another package. our is identical to my except that you *can* reach that variable from other packages. A my declaration inside of a function just limits the scope and lifetime of the variable to that function. I just wanted to point out that to take full advantage of my you might want to program using use strict also. N.- -- http://arhuaco.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Goodbye
On 10/01/2008, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2008-01-08 08:09:58, schrieb Joel Roberts: I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement some anti-spam measures, I'll be happy to join again in the future. There's no reason for this quantity of spam to be making it through on a mailing list. - END OF REPLIED MESSAGE - Sorry, but if the list organizers shutdown the spamfilters, you would not stay longer as 5 minutes in this list :-) I have gotten over 5 million SPAM between 2007-12-17 and 2008-01-05 and only arround 800 coming through... I do not asume you have goten the same amount of spam, maybe not even 5000 so you have gotten around 1 spam in this time if you would use a spamfilter on your system... I get about 700-1100 spams a day. Spamassasin on the server only trickles 10-30 of those through a day (lately more, I've have to look into that). Thunderbird sorts all of those. I get about two or three false negatives (spam getting through) a day. I go through both Spamassasin's and Tbirds spams, and I get about 1 false positive every two weeks, often less. And those are usually too-spammy newsletters. None of my personal contacts has hit a false positive in months. That said, for mailing lists, I use Gmail. Great interface and spam filtering. Did nobody notice that the OP posted in HTML? There are lists I subscribe to that would have _removed_ him for that. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: Perl realted..?
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 01:51:44AM -0800, pedxing wrote:
But the point is that scope doesn't change in a loop, but it
does in a subroutine.
You are incorrect. Every set of { braces } is its own (sub)scope,
regardless of whether they are separated out into a sub or not.
~$ perl -w -e ' { my $last = foo; } print $last\n; '
Name main::last used only once: possible typo at -e line 1.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at -e line 1.
~$ perl -w -e ' my $last; { $last = foo; } print $last\n; '
foo
Or, if you like the code from the original question better, try
perl -w -e 'while () { my $last = $_ } print $last\n; '
and it *will* complain about $last being undefined after the loop exits:
~$ perl -w -e 'while () { my $last = $_ } print $last\n; ' .bashrc
Name main::last used only once: possible typo at -e line 1.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at -e line 1, line
51.
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Re: OT: Flash memory
On Jan 11, 2008 8:51 AM, ISHWAR RATTAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Storage: how is the storage viewed? Contiguous or block based, is it possible to have random access etc. Like any other block (ie hard drive) device. As comparison to hard-disk scenario is the access overhead (seek/rtotational/transfer delays) - do such concepts apply to flash memory? Yes, but the times involved are much smaller. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Flash memory
On 01/11/08 13:18, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 11, 2008 8:51 AM, ISHWAR RATTAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Storage: how is the storage viewed? Contiguous or block based, is it possible to have random access etc. Like any other block (ie hard drive) device. As comparison to hard-disk scenario is the access overhead (seek/rtotational/transfer delays) - do such concepts apply to flash memory? Yes, but the times involved are much smaller. How do seek and rotational delays affect Flash RAM? -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Flash memory
On Jan 11, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/08 13:18, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 11, 2008 8:51 AM, ISHWAR RATTAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Storage: how is the storage viewed? Contiguous or block based, is it possible to have random access etc. Like any other block (ie hard drive) device. As comparison to hard-disk scenario is the access overhead (seek/rtotational/transfer delays) - do such concepts apply to flash memory? Yes, but the times involved are much smaller. How do seek and rotational delays affect Flash RAM? If you spin around in a circle fast enough while holding the flash card, all the bits slide to the outside edge where they're harder to reach. ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's your tools for C++ dev?
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 06:08:31AM +0100, Misko [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: And because I only have 33k modem internet connection I do not plan to add any online repository to that list. I would be willing to download single packages that I am interested in only if I could find URL to pass it to wget. You can try http://packages.debian.org/package, which will link to direct downloads of individual .debs. More seriously: I really would like to know what 'exactly' is non-free with some GNU documentations, or in other words what you can not do with it that you can do with documentation included in debian? The fundamental problem is that GNU believes it's OK for documentation to contain large blocks of text which are unrelated to the subject of the documentation and must be preserved unmodified in any derivative. In GNU documentation the invariants are typically political texts by Richard Stallman, such as the GNU manifesto and (somewhat ironically) Free Software Needs Free Documentation. Any derivative of the documentation has to contain these texts unmodified. This would be clearly non-free for computer programs (e.g., imagine a license which said that you must include a particular function verbatim and call it on start-up), since it means that you can't freely edit those pieces, or excerpt other parts of the software without dragging the invariants along; it's a straightforward restriction on modification and re-use. There is some dispute over what standards free documentation should be held to -- obviously GNU thinks these licenses are free -- but multiple resolutions in Debian have been passed supporting the view that we should apply the same standards to free documentation that we do to free software. Personally, I have yet to see an argument for labelling non-modifiable documentation as free that I found convincing. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Movies, household network and 54g limits... (maybe...)
Hi, in my flat there are 1 router, 1 range extender, 2 vista, 1 XP and my 2 linux ubuntu (one of which is mail/samba/nfs/etc server, is monitored via mrtg and contains a lot of music/movies). All, wireless. The problem: when I listen to music or watch movies from my laptop (my flatmates idem) the results are not so good... many freezes... The graphs say it is clearly not bandwith fault. Reading around: It is well known that the medium access control (MAC) layer is the main bottleneck for the IEEE 802.11 wireless LANs. There are scientific publications around but seems the problem is not solved. 1. Do you know something, please? 2. With the new N technology, the problem is solved? [I doubt but I should test...] Thank you so much, Gionni -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Flash memory
On 01/11/08 10:51, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote: It is way off but some one will direct me to the right place.. I am interested in knowing the storage and access architecture of 'Flash Memory'. Storage: how is the storage viewed? Contiguous or block based, is it possible to have random access etc. As comparison to hard-disk scenario is the access overhead (seek/rtotational/transfer delays) - do such concepts apply to flash memory? Access: USB interface is serial by nature, so, is the data accessed in a serial/sequential way or some other technique is used? What does Googling for flash memory theory operation return to you? -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to customise Apache2 logs
I'm trying to follow the subversion/svn example for putting svn-related
(over http) activities into a new log and decyphering the actions, but
nothing is appearing in the new log.
From http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn.serverconfig.httpd.html, it
says
mod_dav_svn, however, can come to your aid. By activating an
“operational logging” feature, you can ask mod_dav_svn to create a
separate log file describing what sort of high-level operations your
clients are performing.
To do this, you need to make use of Apache's CustomLog directive (which
is explained in more detail in Apache's own documentation). Be sure to
invoke this directive outside of your Subversion Location block:
Location /svn
DAV svn
…
/Location
CustomLog logs/svn_logfile %t %u %{SVN-ACTION}e env=SVN-ACTION
In this example, we're asking Apache to create a special logfile
svn_logfile in the standard Apache logs directory. The %t and %u
variables are replaced by the time and username of the request,
respectively. The really important part are the two instances of
SVN-ACTION. When Apache sees that variable, it substitutes the value of
the SVN-ACTION environment variable, which is automatically set by
mod_dav_svn whenever it detects a high-level client action.
I've added what I think is a suitable CustomLog (I've tried both
to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and/or
to /etc/apache2/mods-available/dav_svn.conf):
CustomLog /var/log/apache2/subversion.log %t %u %{SVN-ACTION}e
env=SVN-ACTION
but although the file is created nothing is being added to it, and I'm
still seeing copies of the Apache/svn cmds in apache2/access.log:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/SUBVERSION$ tail /var/log/apache2/access.log
veri.phy.umist.ac.uk - atmos_svn [11/Jan/2008:17:34:01 +]
PROPFIND /svn/atmos_modelling/OpenMP_2 HTTP/1.1 207 463 - SVN/1.4.4
(r25188) neon/0.25.5
{etc}
Can anybody point out what I've overlooked?
thanks, Michael
Re: Perl realted..?
On Jan 11, 2008 4:01 AM, pedxing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
#!/usr/bin/perl
# this just re-implements tail -1
#
# usage:
# /this/file /some/text/file.txt
#
my $last;
while( ) {
$last = $_;
}
print $last;
-
Now, try with the my $last; *inside* the while(). That last print
line won't have a clue what $last is.
That doesn't sound right to me. Scope doesn't change in a loop. All
of this code is in the same scope, so the print statement will work
fine.
Try again.
8
$ perl -le 'my $last = 1; while (true) { my $last = 2; last; } print $last;'
1
8
--
Chris Howie
http://www.chrishowie.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers
Re: Syncing mail with a PalmOs device
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:35:58 -0500 Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri January 11 2008, you wrote: I want to sync mail between a Debian box and a PalmOs device (Centro). I'd prefer to use something in Debian, but jpilot-mail has been removed [0], and pilot-mailsync [1] doesn't appear to be in Debian (it also seems to have been abandoned by upstream). There's SyncMail for PilotManager [2]; I don't know if it's in Debian, and in any event it also seems abandoned; it doesn't seem to have been updated since 2000. I use kpilot and pilot-link to sync my Palm 680 to my Debian Lenny desktop.. Of course I am running KDE.. there is a big thread(s) on kde-pim mailing list about the palm devices.. I may have been unclear, but pilot-link works fine, and I assume jpilot will too, once I configure it. My problem is that IIUC, syncing the data for specific apps requires conduits designed for the apps' specific database formats, and I know of no conduit currently in Debian that will handle mail (either Versamail, or the OSS GnuGotMail would be fine). Does kpilot contain a mail conduit? I don't use KDE, but a solid mail conduit might be a sufficient reason to install it. I'd think, however, that if it does contain a mail conduit, I should be able to use it without the entire KDE framework. Thanks for the reply, Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator
Vá: aptitude reinstall from file contained package names?
2008/1/9, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 02:37:30PM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote: Now I want to reinstall all these packages listed in 'installed_packages' file, with aptitude. I've never tried that automatically with aptitude and checking the man page suggests that its not possible. I tried but have not success. If what you asked for really worked, then you would loose the main benefit of aptitude: keeping track of shifting dependancies and cruft controll. Everything would appear to be automatically installed. After all, I use aptitude to reinstall everything. -- Regards, Paul Csanyi http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to filter out mailing list spam with bogofilter
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:12:06 +0100 Nigel Henry wrote: I have a separate mailbox for the Debian-user list, and when the spam flood was in full flow everything turned up in this mailbox, ham, and spam, so no spam from the Debian list was sent to the wastebin. I've got Sylpheed with bogofilter integrated. In the 'junk mail' settings there's this option: 'Filter junk mails before normal filtering'. When checked, bogofilter captures all spam mails from the list, that is, spam mails with the d-u address somewhere in the headers. If your d-u filter (putting the list mail into your d-u folder) gets the mail first, apparently these messages get out of reach of other filters. I suppose KMail has a similar setting after bogofilter is added. BTW: although bogofilter does not mark a message as spam if it is not sure about it, it does mark messages as spam if it *is* sure about it. I've inspected some 20,000 messages that were sent to the spam folder, and none of them was falsely marked as spam. It appears to be safe to send the messages that are marked as spam to the trash folder directly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Syncing mail with a PalmOs device
Hi, I want to sync mail between a Debian box and a PalmOs device (Centro). I'd prefer to use something in Debian, but jpilot-mail has been removed [0], and pilot-mailsync [1] doesn't appear to be in Debian (it also seems to have been abandoned by upstream). There's SyncMail for PilotManager [2]; I don't know if it's in Debian, and in any event it also seems abandoned; it doesn't seem to have been updated since 2000. I may just try building pilot-mailsync from source. Does anyone have any advice? What I really am trying to accomplish is the sending and receiving of email from and to my Debian box via the net connected Centro, by writing and reading the mail on the Debian box and syncing with the Centro for transmission. [This is actually the opposite of what most mail syncing conduits are apparently designed to do; they seem to have been written for PDAs that have no net connection, and the transfers are generally in the opposite direction, but I haven't yet experimented to see if they can be usefully reversed.] Is there a better way to do this? The carrier's (Sprint) TOS don't allow me to tether the phone or use it as a modem (without paying substantially more for its phone-as-modem (PAM) plan), even if it is technically possible, but I believe that my idea would not violate the TOS. Is there a better way to do what I want? [0] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=332636 [1] http://www.garcke.de/PMS/ [2] http://syncmail.sourceforge.net/ Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: dying disk - data recovery recommendations
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:31:57 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Perhaps, I've never needed to go that far. The one time I thought I had a hard drive go bad and put it into another computer, it didn't get any errors on boot. I just fsck'ed it and it was fine. Turned out to be a hardware problem on the origional computer. My only experience with a laptop hard drive is on my IBM Thinkpad 600E. On that, you don't have to tear apart the unit: one screw releases a cover and you slide out the hard drive. Thinkpads, Toshibas, Dells, etc have been easy for hard disk replacement. However, Macs involve quite a few screws with weird heads to open them. This Powebook G4 had 19+12 screws!! So I've never actually needed dd_rescue so I don't know if it would be better. As long as its not worse, then just that. The important thing as I understand it is to get an image of the drive once then power off the drive. Do all your fixing on a copy of the filesystem image. Once you know what that needs, you can do it to the drive itself. Doug. I connected the old hard disk via firewire to the powerbook and compiled ddrescue to run on the G4 (new HDD and 10.4.11). It is just giving I/O error in the syslog. I can't even be mounted. ddrescue has read 3MB in the last half an hour and rescue zero bytes :( Any other suggestions? /KS -- KS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: dying disk - data recovery recommendations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11-Jan-08, at 3:43 PM, KS wrote: I connected the old hard disk via firewire to the powerbook and compiled ddrescue to run on the G4 (new HDD and 10.4.11). It is just giving I/O error in the syslog. I can't even be mounted. ddrescue has read 3MB in the last half an hour and rescue zero bytes :( Any other suggestions? Put the drive in a ziplock bag, removing as much air as possible and toss it in the freezer. Pull it back out after it's cold soaked (couple of hours?) and hook it back up, leaving a freezer pack or something on top of it to help keep it cold while you try again. Obviously this is a last resort YMMV and if your cat demands a raise after the operation I claim no responsibility. but I have had it work maybe twice in a over a half a dozen attempts at similar problems. Brian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Verify this email or encrypt your email for free - see gnupg.org iD8DBQFHh93hGnOmb9xIQHQRAn6UAKCNy52kfTAqctrIEyo4CeD1Ic3KRQCfW+sP JEjiisAwCGr6MQScHhqB800= =1uDI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NTFS and discover1
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:23:49 +0100, Per Tunedal Debian wrote: Hi, as a new user I am puzzled about the inability of my Debian installation to handle NTFS-partitions from start. I installed in expert mode and chose to install support for NTFS. Your system is able to handle the NTFS partitions (full support for reading, limited support for writing), it is just not (yet) configured to mount these partitions automatically during boot. The NTFS-partitions are shown alright if I click the My Computer icon on my Gnome desktop. But they cannot be mounted when I click at the icons. I get an error message from pmount stating that they cannot be mounted because they are not detachable. (The partitions are on fixed drives.) Normal users are not allowed to mount devices by default. Keep in mind that the UNIX philosophy is modelled for a multi-user system; under these conditions it makes sense that a random user cannot mess around at the system level unless explicitly authorized by the administrator. This philosophy can be somewhat confusing or awkward for single-user computers. Pmount was written to alleviate that, but it works only for removable devices in its default configuration. (If you run man pmount and man fstab in a terminal you will get more details.) I note that the NTFS-partitions are mounted for reading if I boot with a KNOPPIX CD. I searched the documentation and found that KNOPPIX uses kudzu (and not discover1) for hardware detection. Synaptic doesn't offer kudzu for Debian. hwinfo uses parts of kudzu, but cannot be used for hardware detection. I don't think this has anything to do with hardware detection. Knoppix mounts every partition it can find because that makes the most sense for a live CD. Have I overlooked some settings during the installation? Or are there any flaws in discover1? It might be useful to add some instructions for NTFS in the installation manual. Truth be told, I don't remember if the installer has an option to auto-configure the mounting of NTFS partitions. Anyway, your system seems to work fine, therefore it should be sufficient to do what is explained here: http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php#4.0 -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Flash memory
On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 06:47:03 +1000, Adrian Levi wrote: On 12/01/2008, David Brodbeck wrote: On Jan 11, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: How do seek and rotational delays affect Flash RAM? If you spin around in a circle fast enough while holding the flash card, all the bits slide to the outside edge where they're harder to reach. ;) Yes, but if you read from the outside edge then your bit density is greater and therefore your theoretical maximum transfer rate is higher, providing that the bits don't all fly around when you stop spinning. This benefit would outweigh the harder to reach bits. :-) Doesn't all that depend on whether you are on the northern or the southern hemisphere? -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS
David Brodbeck wrote: On Dec 4, 2007, at 2:36 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Nate that's a very complete answer. Let me try to apply that to Oaxaca, Mexico. Thanks! I can't provide any specific advice, because I don't live there. But given the amount of manufacturing that goes on in Mexico these days, there must be electronic parts suppliers. If you can figure out who the Mexican equivalent of Digi-Key is, you should be all set. Let me finish the thread. I ended up ordering an APC RBC2 battery replacement from the only one from APC's Mexican support list that answered:http://www.mei-telecom.com/ It cost 460 MPesos = $42.13 + 15%tax + shipping. The 1st 2 I had to pay at a bank before they would ship. Biggest problem with the replacement process is the removal of the positive lead with the F2 clip that is protected by a plastic sleeve. Never found a battery supplier in Oaxaca. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
