Re: 'mktemp' testing package dependency

2009-06-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-06-17 05:59 +0200, Daniel Burrows wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:59:03PM +0200, Sven Joachim  was 
> heard to say:
>> On 2009-06-16 21:44 +0200, Jason Filippou wrote:
>> > Downgrade the following packages:
>> > mktemp [1.6-4 (now) -> 1.5-9 (stable)]
>> >
>> > Score is 80
>> 
>> I wonder why aptitude is suggesting this, downgrading mktemp would not
>> really help.
>
>   According to packages.debian.org, mktemp version 1.6-4 doesn't have
> the problematic dependency, probably because it's a real package and
> not a transitional package.

Surely, but why does aptitude want to downgrade it to 1.5-9 then?

Sven


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Re: Sendmail question

2009-06-16 Thread Richard A Nelson

On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, kj wrote:

I should know this but I'm drawing a blank, and google is only finding the 
things I'm not looking for.


Man, I know the feeling

How do I get sendmail to forget the MX lookups it's done for mail that are 
already in the queue, and check them again?  I have a client who screwed up 
with their DNS, so there's a host of mail in the queue destined to a 
non-existent MX.


1) /etc/init.d/sendmail purgestat now -- purge sendmail host status
2) restart your caching DNS server (and every smtp server should have
   one) to make sure nothing is cached
3) nscd -i hosts -- though actually, you should disable host caching
   in nscd (or better, just purge the whole package)

with all that out of the way, sendmail will lookup the current MX for
each queue run.

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Re: house planning software

2009-06-16 Thread Csanyi Pal
mi...@post.tau.ac.il writes:

> I was wondering if there is any software that allows building a 3d
> model of the house/appartment to help with the planning

Maybe the k3d is for this too:
Description: 3D modeling and animation system
 K-3D is designed from-the-ground-up to generate
 motion-picture-quality animation with RenderMan-compliant render
 engines (such as aqsis). 

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Re: SATA CD- drive not picked up by system

2009-06-16 Thread Raja R Harinath
Hi,

AG  writes:

> Matthew Moore wrote:
>
> On Monday June 15 2009 2:32:18 pm AG wrote:
>
> Default DVD/CD-drive that plays media.  Sorry - my poor wording. I 
> mean
> the device doesn't seem to be automounted when I load an optical disk.
> 
> The applications that play DVD (mplayer, kmplayer, totem) and audio 
> CDs
> (kscd, goobox) cannot find the media.  In one bizarre twist, kscd can
> read track names, but when prompted to press play claims there's no 
> disk.
>
> Does it mount correctly for data-only discs? Are you a member of the 
> cdrom and 
> plugdev groups (I am not sure if this is still required)? Do you have HAL 
> installed? Does anything (e.g. usb drives) automount in your DE?
> 
> MM
>
> Hi Matthew & Thierry
>
> Yes - it loads data disks just fine and also DVD disks that I have burnt 
> myself.  When testing it using k3b to burn a DVD, k3b locates the disk 
> immediately and burns
> successfully.  All other USB drives show up fine.  As the sole user, I have 
> permissions to load CD-ROMs and as far as I can tell I am a member of all of 
> the relevant
> groups.
[snip]
> So ... any ideas, because I am clean out of any myself and Google is not 
> throwing back anything of use and there is nothing in the Debian literature 
> nor from user fora
> that I can see that is helpful.

I had noticed some problems with a similar setup.  The symptoms were
these:

  $ sdparm -C capacity /dev/dvd
  /dev/dvd: Optiarc   DVD RW AD-7220S   1.01  [cd/dvd]
  blocks: 4097392
  block_length: 2048
  capacity_mib: 8002.7

  $ /sbin/blockdev --getsize64 /dev/dvd
  1073741312

Note the truncated size according to 'blockdev'.  

(BTW, IIRC, that 1073741312 seems exceedingly like the error guess in
linux-2.6/drivers/scsi/sr.c

if (the_result) {
cd->capacity = 0x1f;
sector_size = 2048; /* A guess, just in case */

I think that's a safe guess for CDs but not for DVDs)

AG, Can you try above the above two commands and see if you get a
discrepancy between them?  There may be a pattern here.

- Hari


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Re: 'mktemp' testing package dependency

2009-06-16 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:59:03PM +0200, Sven Joachim  was 
heard to say:
> On 2009-06-16 21:44 +0200, Jason Filippou wrote:
> > Downgrade the following packages:
> > mktemp [1.6-4 (now) -> 1.5-9 (stable)]
> >
> > Score is 80
> 
> I wonder why aptitude is suggesting this, downgrading mktemp would not
> really help.

  According to packages.debian.org, mktemp version 1.6-4 doesn't have
the problematic dependency, probably because it's a real package and
not a transitional package.

  Daniel


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Re: copying files on hd with bad blocks

2009-06-16 Thread Eric Gerlach
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:03:52AM +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
> I need to copy files from a ntfs formatted hd to a ntfs hd. What tool should
> i use?
> 
> Note: I only need to copy files and directories, not making disk image

Hi,

You can use ntfs-3g.  First, install it by running "aptitude install ntfs-3g"
as root (or with sudo).  Then you can use the "ntfs-3g" mount type or command.

$ man ntfs-3g

will give you more info once the package is installed.

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Re: odd keyboard capslock behavior

2009-06-16 Thread green
Tony Baldwin wrote at 2009-06-12 09:44 -0600:
> But, on occasion, my capslock seems to go in reverse.  IE. with the [A]  
> light on the keyboard lit, I type lower case, and with it not lit, I get  
> ALLCAPS (opposite of normal behavior).
> Sometimes the behavior eventually corrects itself.
> Logging out of X also corrects this behavior.

I have seen software-related keyboard LED weirdness happen in 2 ways:

1. Switching out of X to a VT, like with Ctrl+Alt+F1, then back.  NumLock is 
still on but the light is off.  Press the NumLock key once and the light stays 
off and NumLock is off, and normal behavior returns.

2. Changing the NumLock in x86 emulator software.  At some point I used some 
software that toggled the NumLock light when you pressed the NumLock key in the 
emulator, but did not return the LED to its proper state when exiting the 
emulation.  From then on the LED was the opposite of the actual NumLock status 
(if the NumLock key was used an odd number of times in the emulator).


Likely neither of these is your problem; I have no other ideas.


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copying files on hd with bad blocks

2009-06-16 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
I need to copy files from a ntfs formatted hd to a ntfs hd. What tool should
i use?

Note: I only need to copy files and directories, not making disk image

TIA

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Re: How Do I Get GRUB to See the External USB Drive?

2009-06-16 Thread Scarletdown
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Sjoerd Hardeman <
sjo...@lorentz.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:

> Scarletdown schreef:
> > On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 16:53 +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> >> Can you check the contents of /boot/grub/device.map? I think you need to
> >> make sure your usb device is mentioned there for it to work at boot
> >> time. If it is not there, redo update-grub and check if the usb drive is
> >> added to device.map. If so, do a grub-install and then things should
> work.
> >
> > cat /boot/grub/device.map
> > (hd0)   /dev/hda
> > (hd1)   /dev/hdb
> Try adding
> (hd2)   /dev/hd? (your usb disk)
> and then do a grub-install
>

 I have since gone on to plan B and installed XP on the internal SCSI drive
(/dev/sda1).  This has created a whole new problem.

Before I installed, I went into the BIOS and disabled  the IDE hard drive
(/hda), just so that Windows would not overwrite my MBR.  Well, it overwrote
it anyway, apparently completely ignoring the BIOS settings.  Now the Linux
side of the system is not bootable.

I booted with an Ubuntu 6.10 CD and tried to repait the MBR with a procedure
I found on the Ubuntu forums (went with the Ubuntu disk because that was the
first Live CD I was able to dig up.)

It went like this:

sudo grub
find /boot/grub/stage1 (this returned something to the effect of hd(0,0) )

Then I did root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0)
quit

I then rebooted without the Ubuntu disk in the drive, and the system still
went to Windows, even though the boot order in the BIOS is set to
CD-ROM/Floppy/HDD0 (where HDD0 is the IDE hard drive, not the SCSI drive).

I tried rebooting with the SCSI drive disconnected and the system just froze
up as if there was no bootable partition at all (I had double checked to
make sure the drive's partition was set active).

I tried installing GRUB on the MBR of the SCSI drive and setting root to the
first partition on the Linux drive, but that also failed (all that happened
was GRUB was printed across the screen endlessly.)

Any other suggestions to get my Linux system back and operational again?
Like I said, it is there, just not accessible.  Is it possible that the
version of GRUB that is on the Ubuntu disk (I believe 6.10 is Feisty
Fawn...not sure what the most recent is)is too old for my sustem?  (I seem
to recall updating it just a day or two ago.  In fact, I definitely remember
updating GRUB just yesterday in hopes that would help with the original
problem.


Re: Unsure which package to report this problem with

2009-06-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jonathan Steel wrote:
> After a suspend/resume I noticed the following after running
> ifconfig. (The numbers increase the more I use the Internet). RX
> packets:1210 errors:78 dropped:155 overruns:78 frame:0
> 
> Before a suspend/resume there are no errors etc. This problem happens
> both when using the wired and wireless connections.
> 
> I would report a bug but I am not sure what package the bug would be
> in. After a suspend/resume I have tried restarting the networking,
> manually configuring the network etc. etc. but nothing seems to get
> it going at its normal speed again apart from a reboot.

It's presumably a bug in the kernel. You're best off trying a older or
newer kernel and seeing if you can reproduce the problem, and filing a
bug upstream if the newest released kernel causes the issue.

You can also probably just fix it by unloading and reloading the
module on suspend/resusume.

Regardless, in the future these sorts of questions are best asked at
debian-user@lists.debian.org, as ow...@bugs.debian.org is only for
questions regarding the BTS itself. I've forwarded this response
there, and please direct your followup there as well.
 

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Re: Problems with play action in DopeWars game

2009-06-16 Thread Eric Gerlach
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:53:50AM +0100, AG wrote:
> Eric Gerlach wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 05:09:33PM +0100, AG wrote:
>>
>> You'll probably get better luck filing a bug against the dopewars package 
>> (use
>> reportbug).  That is... assuming it has an active maintainer.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>   
> Eric
>
> Yeah - looked at doing that.  Not much chance though.  The SourceForge  
> site lists last activity 2003 or so.  Too bad - it was a fun game.   
> Installed fine on my old machine but not on this.

Even if there's no upstream activity, the bug could be fixed in the debian
package.  Less likely, true, but not impossible.  Much more possible depending
how much you're willing to help. :-)

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Re: house planning software

2009-06-16 Thread Eric Gerlach
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:12:42AM +0300, mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
> I was wondering if there is any software that allows building a 3d model 
> of the house/appartment to help with the planning

People have had success with Google SketchUp using Wine:

http://wiki.winehq.org/GoogleSketchup

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Re: house planning software

2009-06-16 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
2009/6/17 

> I was wondering if there is any software that allows building a 3d model of
> the house/appartment to help with the planning
>

blender is used for 3d creation
http://www.blender.org/

>
> Thanks
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Re: Problems with play action in DopeWars game

2009-06-16 Thread AG

Eric Gerlach wrote:

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 05:09:33PM +0100, AG wrote:
  

AG wrote:


Hi

When playing the GTK version of DopeWars in Squeeze, when one goes to  
sell one's purchases, the option to sell all at once doesn't work - it  
only allows 1 item at a time to be sold.  Those of you who play the  
game may appreciate that selling several hundred items 1-by-1 is both  
tedious and a real drag to playing the game.


I cannot lay my hands on the config file either, so cannot seem to  
change it from there if that is even an option.  Any suggestions 
please?


Thanks

AG

  
Well - an update.  I removed Squeeze's version and installed the version  
from Lenny - and the same thing applies.  For whatever reason I just  
cannot adjust how many items one can sell - it always comes through as 1  
item, even if one manually enters the correct number.


So, if Squeeze and Lenny versions are showing up screwy ... the common  
denominator is my machine and possibly the gtk libraries or something 
else.


Any ideas on what to be looking for?



You'll probably get better luck filing a bug against the dopewars package (use
reportbug).  That is... assuming it has an active maintainer.

Cheers,

  

Eric

Yeah - looked at doing that.  Not much chance though.  The SourceForge 
site lists last activity 2003 or so.  Too bad - it was a fun game.  
Installed fine on my old machine but not on this.


AG


Re: Problems with play action in DopeWars game

2009-06-16 Thread Eric Gerlach
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 05:09:33PM +0100, AG wrote:
> AG wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> When playing the GTK version of DopeWars in Squeeze, when one goes to  
>> sell one's purchases, the option to sell all at once doesn't work - it  
>> only allows 1 item at a time to be sold.  Those of you who play the  
>> game may appreciate that selling several hundred items 1-by-1 is both  
>> tedious and a real drag to playing the game.
>>
>> I cannot lay my hands on the config file either, so cannot seem to  
>> change it from there if that is even an option.  Any suggestions 
>> please?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> AG
>>
> Well - an update.  I removed Squeeze's version and installed the version  
> from Lenny - and the same thing applies.  For whatever reason I just  
> cannot adjust how many items one can sell - it always comes through as 1  
> item, even if one manually enters the correct number.
>
> So, if Squeeze and Lenny versions are showing up screwy ... the common  
> denominator is my machine and possibly the gtk libraries or something 
> else.
>
> Any ideas on what to be looking for?

You'll probably get better luck filing a bug against the dopewars package (use
reportbug).  That is... assuming it has an active maintainer.

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Re: "iwlist wlan0 scan" problem with iwl4965

2009-06-16 Thread Suno Ano

 Frank> you need to unload and reload the module (rmmod iwl4965;
 Frank> modprobe iwl4965), in order to use the new firmware. (But that
 Frank> should not be needed, if you use Debian stable [Lenny]).

This gets even easier if ones hardware is supported by the stuff that
ships with one of the available .debs

,[ apt-cache search --names-only firmware | grep wireless ]
| atmel-firmware - Firmware for Atmel at76c50x wireless networking chips.
| firmware-ralink - Binary firmware for Ralink RT2561, RT2571, RT2661 and 
RT2671 wireless cards
| libertas-firmware - Firmware for Marvell's 8388 (libertas) wireless chips
| zd1211-firmware - Firmware images for the zd1211 and zd1211rw wireless drivers
`

http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/ggm.html#wifi_and_debian





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house planning software

2009-06-16 Thread michf
I was wondering if there is any software that allows building a 3d  
model of the house/appartment to help with the planning


Thanks


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Re: DNS lookup problems after upgrade from Etch to Lenny

2009-06-16 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:24:05AM -0500, Stackpole, Chris wrote:
> >From: Stackpole, Chris [mailto:cstackp...@barbnet.com]
> >Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:36 PM
> >Subject: RE: DNS lookup problems after upgrade from Etch to Lenny
> >
> >> From: Stackpole, Chris [mailto:cstackp...@barbnet.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:30 PM
> >> Subject: DNS lookup problems after upgrade from Etch to Lenny
> >>
> >> Hey guys,
> >>
> >> I have been trying my best to figure this out recently but not having
> >> much luck. I am hoping someone here might be able to help.
> >>

[snip]

> >> How do I know? I am running `tshark -f 'port 53'` and watching all
> the
> >> data in real time. When I ping a name, it does a lookup. If I leave
> >> the ping running, after a few seconds it asks again. I set up a loop
> >> using `ping -c1` and no matter how fast the loop ran, it asked for
> the
> >> name every time.
> >>

[snip]

> Well I can't seem to find and fix this problem. So I guess my two
> options
> are: 1) rebuild the system using Lenny 2) Install a DNS caching utility.

I have used dnsmasq and found it easy to setup (although in your
situation you would need a separate resolv.conf)

sounds silly but have you checked the dns server, is it resetting the
ttls of the values its sending out ?  I would probably set the machine
into single user mode, make sure nothing else is running and then start
with the pings and do a tcpdump -pni eth0 -vvv port 53 or icmp.

try a host -v google.com
or a dig google.com

work it from there

Alex
> 
> Right now I am trying number 2. I installed dbndns and tied to configure
> it
> using this [1] talk as a guide, but I think I goofed something up. It
> isn't
> working. 
> 
> Can anyone help out in configuring this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris Stackpole
> 
> [1] http://bevilacqua.us/talks/djbdns/
> 
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Re: 'mktemp' testing package dependency

2009-06-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-06-16 21:44 +0200, Jason Filippou wrote:

> Over the last few days aptitude in my testing system detects an
> unsolved package dependency, concerning the package 'mktemp'. Here's
> the output of full-upgrade:
>
> ja...@debian:~$ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Reading extended state information
> Initializing package states... Done
> Reading task descriptions... Done
> The following packages are BROKEN:
>   mktemp
> 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 13.9kB of archives. After unpacking 41.0kB will be freed.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   mktemp: PreDepends: coreutils (>= 7.4-1) but 7.3-1 is installed.
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>
> Downgrade the following packages:
> mktemp [1.6-4 (now) -> 1.5-9 (stable)]
>
> Score is 80

I wonder why aptitude is suggesting this, downgrading mktemp would not
really help.

> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>
> Upgrade the following packages:
> coreutils [7.3-1 (testing, now) -> 7.4-2 (unstable)]
>
> Score is 80

This one looks better.

> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n
>
> *** No more solutions available ***
>
> I tried to find some information on packages.debian.org on mktemp but
> there wasn't any, so I can't decide on whether the package is
> important enough for me to consider upgrading coreutils to the
> unstable version (a risky move) or downgrade mktemp to the stable
> version. So I just wait until the dependency solves itself. Would
> anybody happen to know whether it would be safe to upgrade coreutils?
> Or just any information regarding mktemp?

The problem with mktemp is that it the /bin/mktemp binary is now
provided by coreutils in unstable, and there is a transitional package
built from the coreutils source.  So the mktemp source package got
removed from unstable, and because nothing depends on it, britney (the
script that is responsible for testing migration) removed it from
testing as well.

Of course, this was rather unfortunate because mktemp is an essential
package (that is why nothing depends on it) and arguably a bug in
britney, it should not consider removing essential packages.  The result
is that testing is hosed ATM, but there is no need to panic.  You can
either refrain from full-upgrades until coreutils migrates or upgrade
coreutils to 7.4-2 right away; AFAIK there are no new bugs, and it is
already ten days old.  In any case, you can remove the transitional
mktemp 7.4-2 package after the upgrade.

Sven


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Re: 'mktemp' testing package dependency

2009-06-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:44:21 +0300
Jason Filippou  wrote:

Hello Jason,

> Or just any information regarding mktemp?

Using Synpatic, mktemp is marked as local/obsolete.  This is in testing,
of course.  Marking mktemp for removal warns me that doing so might make
my system unusable.  I therefore decided to leave it in place.

Like you, I think I'll wait for the situation to be resolved.

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'mktemp' testing package dependency

2009-06-16 Thread Jason Filippou
Hello,

Over the last few days aptitude in my testing system detects an
unsolved package dependency, concerning the package 'mktemp'. Here's
the output of full-upgrade:

ja...@debian:~$ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
  mktemp
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 13.9kB of archives. After unpacking 41.0kB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  mktemp: PreDepends: coreutils (>= 7.4-1) but 7.3-1 is installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Downgrade the following packages:
mktemp [1.6-4 (now) -> 1.5-9 (stable)]

Score is 80

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Upgrade the following packages:
coreutils [7.3-1 (testing, now) -> 7.4-2 (unstable)]

Score is 80

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n

*** No more solutions available ***

I tried to find some information on packages.debian.org on mktemp but
there wasn't any, so I can't decide on whether the package is
important enough for me to consider upgrading coreutils to the
unstable version (a risky move) or downgrade mktemp to the stable
version. So I just wait until the dependency solves itself. Would
anybody happen to know whether it would be safe to upgrade coreutils?
Or just any information regarding mktemp?

Thanks in advance,

Jason


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Re: SATA CD- drive not picked up by system

2009-06-16 Thread AG

thveillon.debian wrote:

AG wrote:
  

Matthew Moore wrote:


On Monday June 15 2009 2:32:18 pm AG wrote:
  
  

Default DVD/CD-drive that plays media.  Sorry - my poor wording. I mean
the device doesn't seem to be automounted when I load an optical disk.

The applications that play DVD (mplayer, kmplayer, totem) and audio CDs
(kscd, goobox) cannot find the media.  In one bizarre twist, kscd can
read track names, but when prompted to press play claims there's no disk.


Does it mount correctly for data-only discs? Are you a member of the cdrom and 
plugdev groups (I am not sure if this is still required)? Do you have HAL 
installed? Does anything (e.g. usb drives) automount in your DE?


MM


  
  

Hi Matthew & Thierry

Yes - it loads data disks just fine and also DVD disks that I have burnt
myself.  When testing it using k3b to burn a DVD, k3b locates the disk
immediately and burns successfully.  All other USB drives show up fine. 
As the sole user, I have permissions to load CD-ROMs and as far as I can

tell I am a member of all of the relevant groups.

Gnome has an easier time than Xfce4 in picking up that a disk has been
loaded (i.e. an icon pops up on my desktop in Gnome, but nada in Xfce4).

It is because of this inconsistency that I am confused: if it was
completely dead - I'd be looking for a damaged drive/ disconnection.  If
no audio-CD player found it, I'd be wondering about permissions; if
nothing worked (i.e. no data disks, etc.) then it may be related to
something else.  But, because it can automount data CDs and home-made
DVDs, burn disks fine and that Gnome not Xfce4 picks up the icon, and
that only Rhythmbox can play the disk that I am so confused by this.  I
mean, what is with kscd reading the track info but then telling me that
it cannot play the disk because there is no disk loaded in the player -
how does it read track info then?

I am completely at sea with this ... last time I started hacking away at
my /etc/fstab, changing symlinks and just generally getting myself into
a mess without accomplishing anything.  This time, after a fresh
install, I want to leave well enough alone until I can gather some input
from this community that may help deal with this in a more systematic
manner.

So ... any ideas, because I am clean out of any myself and Google is not
throwing back anything of use and there is nothing in the Debian
literature nor from user fora that I can see that is helpful.

Thanks in anticipation.

AG



Hi, I too have a sata dvd/cd drive, I had trouble installing Etch, but
since then all never versions worked fine. But on another machine, with
the same model I had to do a firmware upgrade before the drive could be
used reliably. Before the upgrade the drive would work for reading, but
any burning attempt was failing.
FWIW, but maybe your drive is having such a problem too.
The bad bad part is I wasn't able to upgrade the firmware on Debian, had
to remove the drive and take it to a computer with a well known
proprietary OS installed. I don't know where "flashrom" is standing on
that matter now.

Hope it helps,

Tom


  

Hello Tom

I mangled my reply to your suggestions on firmware with my reply to 
Matthew.  As stated in that reply, I think I will try an alternative 
DVD/CD-RW drive first and will report back.  At the very least, it will 
eliminate or confirm one potential source of trouble.


Thanks for your suggestions and if you wanted to expand on the firmware 
upgrade endeavour, I am always happy to learn more.


Cheers

AG


Re: SATA CD- drive not picked up by system

2009-06-16 Thread AG

Matthew Moore wrote:

On Tuesday June 16 2009 12:41:31 am AG wrote:
  

Yes - it loads data disks just fine and also DVD disks that I have burnt
myself.  When testing it using k3b to burn a DVD, k3b locates the disk
immediately and burns successfully.  All other USB drives show up fine.
As the sole user, I have permissions to load CD-ROMs and as far as I can
tell I am a member of all of the relevant groups.

Gnome has an easier time than Xfce4 in picking up that a disk has been
loaded (i.e. an icon pops up on my desktop in Gnome, but nada in Xfce4).

It is because of this inconsistency that I am confused: if it was
completely dead - I'd be looking for a damaged drive/ disconnection.  If
no audio-CD player found it, I'd be wondering about permissions; if
nothing worked (i.e. no data disks, etc.) then it may be related to
something else.  But, because it can automount data CDs and home-made
DVDs, burn disks fine and that Gnome not Xfce4 picks up the icon, and
that only Rhythmbox can play the disk that I am so confused by this.  



Does it always flawlessly read DVD's? I am not sure if this is the case 
anymore, but back when the combo drives first came out there were separate 
lasers responsible for reading DVD's and CD's. Suppose that the laser for 
reading CD's is slightly damaged. Perhaps short data bursts read okay, but 
prolonged transfers get corrupted. Some applications may be more resistant to 
this corruption (rereading or doing some kind of ECC on the signal), so some 
applications may successfully read and some may not. Occasionally failing to 
read the TOC/metadata may also prevent it from getting automounted by the 
system.


All of this is pure conjecture, but if I were you, I would try getting my 
hands on another SATA CD/DVD drive and seeing if you get the same symptoms. If 
you get the same symptoms, check to see if the SATA drive is attached to a bus 
all by itself. If this is the case, you could have some kind of MB failure on 
that bus and switching the SATA channel may fix the problem.


  

I
mean, what is with kscd reading the track info but then telling me that
it cannot play the disk because there is no disk loaded in the player -
how does it read track info then?



Well, if the track info is written to the CD-TEXT section of the audio CD, 
then it could be that the drive is having trouble getting to the rest of the 
CD. If your CD does not have CD-TEXT, then it is probably getting the info 
from some cddb server. This only requires the TOC information, which is also 
written at the start of the disc. In either case, it could be a problem 
reading the rest of the CD. Perhaps you should try transferring a bunch of 
data from a CD/DVD and md5summing it to see if there is some kind of 
corruption going on.


MM


  

Matthew

Thanks again for replying.

I am not questioning your logic, because what you say makes good sense.  
I am doubtful of your diagnosis for two key reasons - one, when I bought 
the machine it (of course!) came pre-loaded with a well known 
monopolising OS and before I installed Debian I tested the drives with 
an audio CD knowing that if there was anything faulty, the shop (a well 
known monopolising chain in the UK) would reject my complaint on the 
basis that it was the (Debian) software I had installed and not the 
hardware.  The drive worked fine and again, because I installed the 
basic set up for a net installation using a DVD I had burnt using the 
same machine the drive is to all intents and purposes fine in terms of 
laser read/burn capabilities.  Second, if the drive itself were faulty, 
I don't know how rhythmbox would be able to play audio CDs.  But these 
are complex issues and way above my simple understanding, so whilst what 
you say may be conjecture, what I am replying is based on poor knowledge 
and is hence speculative at best.


As for controllers ... I can't say.  It may well be wise to see if I can 
get an alternate DVD/CD-RW just to be sure and to eliminate this as an 
option, but at this point in time, I'm not holding out much hope.


Firmware - don't even know where to start there - but wide open to 
suggestions on how to proceed.  Ditto on md5summing data I drop onto a 
disk in the drive, as I haven't done that before and don't know where to 
start md5summing something (i.e. setting it up).


As a way forward, I will buy a sata DVD/CD-RW, install that and fire up 
the system again.  Who knows - I may luck out and just have a dud drive 
in which case I will be a happy bunny.  So, to be fair to you and others 
on this list, before taking up any more time I'll go down that route 
first and report back.


Thanks for your continued suggestions.  I'll give an update in a day or two.

Cheers

AG



Re: Re: xemacs and auctex

2009-06-16 Thread Maria McKinley

Bob Parnes wrote:

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:12:50PM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:
I have the latest xemacs and auctex in lenny, but when I try C-c C-c, I  
get C-c C-c not defined. Any ideas what I did wrong? I suspect something  
in my .xemacs, but don't know what to look for...


thanks,
maria


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Try installing python-mode

Bob Parnes


Thanks, unfortunately it didn't help. I tried from another users 
account, and same outcome, so I think I may have been wrong about it 
being a user config problem. Here are the xemacs packages I am using, as 
well as the auctex, in case that is helpful.


miles:~# dpkg -l |grep xemacs
ii  xemacs21 21.4.19-2 
  highly customizable text editor
ii  xemacs21-basesupport 2007.04.27-1 
  Editor and kitchen sink -- compiled elisp su
ii  xemacs21-bin 21.4.19-2 
  highly customizable text editor -- support b
ii  xemacs21-mule21.4.19-2 
  highly customizable text editor -- Mule bina
ii  xemacs21-mulesupport 2007.04.27-1 
  Editor and kitchen sink -- Mule elisp suppor
ii  xemacs21-support 21.4.19-2 
  highly customizable text editor -- architect


miles:~# dpkg -l |grep auctex
ii  auctex   11.83-7.3 
  integrated document editing environment for



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Re: Xorg driver from Ubuntu in Lenny

2009-06-16 Thread Andreas Juch
Am Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:58:20 -0700
schrieb Kushal Koolwal :

> 
> Hi,
> 
> The graphics driver for my chipset (xserver-xorg-video-psb) has not
> yet made into Debian's repo (not even experimental) but is available
> in Ubuntu repo.
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ro/hardy/i386/xserver-xorg-video-psb/download
> 
> I see that I can install the above package on my Debian 5.0 (2.6.30
> kernel - x86) system however, the X server won't start and gives the
> following error messages:
> 
> (II) Module Intel Poulsbo: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 0.0.1
> Module class: X.Org Video Driver
> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
> (EE) module ABI major version (1) doesn't match the server's version
> (2) (II) UnloadModule: "psb"
> (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//psb_drv.so
> (EE) Failed to load module "psb" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
> (II) LoadModule: "mouse"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so
> (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 1.4.0.90, module version = 1.3.0
> Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
> ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0
> (II) LoadModule: "kbd"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so
> (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 1.4.0.90, module version = 1.3.1
> Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
> ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0
> (EE) No drivers available.

The psb-package was compiled for a newer Xserver than the one your are
running. Compiling the package yourself is necessary. Add the
source-repository of ubuntu to your sources.list and do 'apt-get source
xserver-xorg-video-psb'.

Install the devscripts-package, change to the source directory of the
psb module and do 'debuild'. It will tell you which -dev package are
missing, install them and repeat. If everything goes well, you should
have a debian package which can be installed with 'dpkg -i
xserver-xorg...deb'.

If the module cannot be used with an old xserver, you'll have to
install a newer one, but try to build the package first.

Andreas


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Re: trouble with custom kernel

2009-06-16 Thread David A. Parker

Bernd Prager wrote:

Hi,

I have been building custom kernels for my system a while now.
Recently I run into trouble that I haven't experienced before:

I build my kernel with:
$ make menuconfig
$ make-kpkg clean
$ fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image 
kernel_headers


When I try to install I get now following error:
$ dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb
(Reading database ... 136073 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking linux-image-2.6.30-custom (from 
linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb) ...

Done.
dpkg: error processing 
linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb (--install):
trying to overwrite `/lib/firmware/mts_edge.fw', which is also in 
package linux-image-2.6.29.1-custom

dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Running postrm hook script /sbin/update-grub.
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default
Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29.1-custom
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-14-generic
Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin
Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done

Errors were encountered while processing:
linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb

Any suggestion what to do?



Hi,

It looks to me like you have included a kernel option for this device in 
the last two kernels (linux-image-2.6.30-custom and 
linux-image-2.6.29.1-custom) which you had not included before.  I'm not 
sure which option would force the inclusion of mts_edge.fw, but if you 
look through the kernel config you can probably find it and disable it.


You could also try using the --force-conflicts or --force-overwrite 
flags with dpkg, although that could get dangerous.


- Dave

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RE: DNS lookup problems after upgrade from Etch to Lenny

2009-06-16 Thread Stackpole, Chris
>From: Stackpole, Chris [mailto:cstackp...@barbnet.com]
>Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:36 PM
>Subject: RE: DNS lookup problems after upgrade from Etch to Lenny
>
>> From: Stackpole, Chris [mailto:cstackp...@barbnet.com]
>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:30 PM
>> Subject: DNS lookup problems after upgrade from Etch to Lenny
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I have been trying my best to figure this out recently but not having
>> much luck. I am hoping someone here might be able to help.
>>
>> We had an Etch box that had been running great for almost 2 years.
>> When we decided that we really should upgrade to Lenny, the box had
>> over 300 days of uptime. It was a really solid box that handled a ton
>> of data for us.
>>
>> There are a number of reasons, but we needed to update the system. So
>> I ran the upgrade process. I did an `apt-get update` and `apt-get
>> upgrade` on Etch, restarted, changed out sources to Lenny then did an
>> `apt-get dist-upgrade`. Standard and simple and everything seemed to
go 
>> really well.
>>
>> However, shortly after, it started slamming our DNS servers. It went
>> from an average of 3.5 requests per minute to over 7000 requests per
>> minute. Every time it talks to a system, it does a DNS lookup.
>
> Scratch that bit. My network guy just sent me the official numbers. It
> jumped from 3.5 requests per minute to 73,955.25 requests per minute.
A
> factor of 10 worse. :-0
>
>> At first I thought it was Apache and or the applications we run, but
>> after some testing, I don't think that is the case. I stopped all the
>> programs and apache before I started pinging other systems by their
>> domain name. It constantly asked the DNS for information.
>>
>> How do I know? I am running `tshark -f 'port 53'` and watching all
the
>> data in real time. When I ping a name, it does a lookup. If I leave
>> the ping running, after a few seconds it asks again. I set up a loop
>> using `ping -c1` and no matter how fast the loop ran, it asked for
the
>> name every time.
>>
>> So a busy server working with ~50 other computers and tons of
>> connections is asking the DNS for every connection!
>>
>> Can any one help out? I am digging around in all sorts of conf files
>> but not finding anything. My search online seems to suggest I should
>> install a DNS caching utility, but I don't understand why I have this
>> problem.
>>
>> I didn't have it before and on another system running a fresh build
of
>> Lenny running the exact same software handling a similar load and its
>> DNS ask rate is just as low as it was on this system running Etch.
>>
>> I am at a loss. I appreciate any help people can give.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris Stackpole

Well I can't seem to find and fix this problem. So I guess my two
options
are: 1) rebuild the system using Lenny 2) Install a DNS caching utility.

Right now I am trying number 2. I installed dbndns and tied to configure
it
using this [1] talk as a guide, but I think I goofed something up. It
isn't
working. 

Can anyone help out in configuring this?

Thanks,
Chris Stackpole

[1] http://bevilacqua.us/talks/djbdns/


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Re: trouble with custom kernel

2009-06-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-06-16 16:45 +0200, Bernd Prager wrote:

> I have been building custom kernels for my system a while now.
> Recently I run into trouble that I haven't experienced before:
>
> I build my kernel with:
> $ make menuconfig
> $ make-kpkg clean
> $ fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image
> kernel_headers
>
> When I try to install I get now following error:
> $ dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb
> (Reading database ... 136073 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking linux-image-2.6.30-custom (from
> linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb) ...
> Done.
> dpkg: error processing
> linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb
> (--install):
> trying to overwrite `/lib/firmware/mts_edge.fw', which is also in
> package linux-image-2.6.29.1-custom

You seem to be using an old version of kernel-package.  Current versions
do not install kernel firmware into /lib/firmware, but rather into
/lib/firmware/$kernelversion to avoid these clashes.  See #492516¹.

> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> Running postrm hook script /sbin/update-grub.
> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
> Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default
> Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29.1-custom
> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-14-generic
> Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin
> Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
>
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb
>
> Any suggestion what to do?

Upgrade kernel-package to the version in Lenny (or newer).

Sven


¹http://bugs.debian.org/492516


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Re: trouble with custom kernel

2009-06-16 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2009/6/16 Bernd Prager :
> Hi,
>
> I have been building custom kernels for my system a while now.
> Recently I run into trouble that I haven't experienced before:
>
> I build my kernel with:
> $ make menuconfig
> $ make-kpkg clean
> $ fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image
> kernel_headers
>
> When I try to install I get now following error:
> $ dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb
> (Reading database ... 136073 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking linux-image-2.6.30-custom (from
> linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb) ...
> Done.
> dpkg: error processing
> linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb (--install):
> trying to overwrite `/lib/firmware/mts_edge.fw', which is also in package
> linux-image-2.6.29.1-custom
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> Running postrm hook script /sbin/update-grub.
> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
> Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default
> Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29.1-custom
> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-14-generic
> Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin
> Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
>
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb
>
> Any suggestion what to do?
>
> Thanks you,
> -- Bernd
>

Temporarily rename /lib/firmware/mts_edge.fw to something else (eg.
/lib/firmware/mts_edge.fw.old) and reinstall 2.6.30

regards
-r


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trouble with custom kernel

2009-06-16 Thread Bernd Prager

Hi,

I have been building custom kernels for my system a while now.
Recently I run into trouble that I haven't experienced before:

I build my kernel with:
$ make menuconfig
$ make-kpkg clean
$ fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image 
kernel_headers


When I try to install I get now following error:
$ dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb
(Reading database ... 136073 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking linux-image-2.6.30-custom (from 
linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb) ...

Done.
dpkg: error processing 
linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb (--install):
trying to overwrite `/lib/firmware/mts_edge.fw', which is also in 
package linux-image-2.6.29.1-custom

dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Running postrm hook script /sbin/update-grub.
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default
Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29.1-custom
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-14-generic
Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin
Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done

Errors were encountered while processing:
linux-image-2.6.30-custom_2.6.30-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb

Any suggestion what to do?

Thanks you,
-- Bernd


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Re: xemacs and auctex

2009-06-16 Thread Bob Parnes
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:12:50PM -0700, Maria McKinley wrote:
> I have the latest xemacs and auctex in lenny, but when I try C-c C-c, I  
> get C-c C-c not defined. Any ideas what I did wrong? I suspect something  
> in my .xemacs, but don't know what to look for...
>
> thanks,
> maria
>
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Sendmail question

2009-06-16 Thread kj
I should know this but I'm drawing a blank, and google is only finding 
the things I'm not looking for.


How do I get sendmail to forget the MX lookups it's done for mail that 
are already in the queue, and check them again?  I have a client who 
screwed up with their DNS, so there's a host of mail in the queue 
destined to a non-existent MX.


Thanks

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RE: [OT] The perfect system ...

2009-06-16 Thread Stackpole, Chris
> From: Andrei Popescu [mailto:andreimpope...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [OT] The perfect system ...
> 
> On Sun,14.Jun.09, 01:19:40, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >> Determine what you want the box to do.  If its only watching
movies,
> >> most new computers with a decent video card will do that as is and
> isn't
> >> anything special.
> >
> > Heck, until I figured out a method to stream video to my XBox360
I
> > was watching video on my ~10 year old Dell Latitude CPx.  667Mhz CPU
and
> > a 32Mb, non-3D video card.
> 
> Unfortunately such hardware is not good enough for HD (not even 720p).
> I'm even struggling to get my laptop (Intel Dual Core T2330 @ 1.6 GHz
> and nvidia Quadro NVS 140M) to show 1080p.

According to Wikipedia [1] you are supported for VDPAU so why not use
it?
The SVN of MythTV supports it as does the latest XBMC for Linux. Or if
you want just a single application then just grab the latest Mplayer.

Just as a point of ref, I have a P4 3.0Ghz with 3GB ram box that
struggled to play 720p. It drained my resources but it was
watchable...barely. I installed the latest nvidia drivers, the latest
XBMC, and now it plays 1080p with less then 30% of the processor (720p
uses less the 15%).

It is really cool stuff.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU

Hope this helps!
~Stack~


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RE: DNS lookup problems after upgrade from Etch to Lenny

2009-06-16 Thread Stackpole, Chris
> From: Adrian Levi [mailto:adrian.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:19 AM
> Subject: Re: DNS lookup problems after upgrade from Etch to Lenny
> 
> >> didn't have it before and on another system running a fresh build
of
> >> Lenny running the exact same software handling a similar load and
its
> >> DNS ask rate is just as low as it was on this system running Etch.
> >>
> >> I am at a loss. I appreciate any help people can give.
> 
> Silly question, did you check resolv.conf?

I did. It is the same as the other machines

Search my.domain
Nameserver ip.of.dns.1
Nameserver ip.of.dns.2

Thanks for the suggestion.
Chris Stackpole


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Re: etckeeper - keeping /etc under version control

2009-06-16 Thread Suno Ano

 Peter> You can use svk instead of svn

I do not see how this solves the metadata issue if you use a version
control system directly without the smartness etckeeper brings to the
table e.g. by using its .gitignore settings.

svk is an attempt to inject the notion of being a decentralized scm into
a centralized one (which svn happens to be) ... that has nothing to do
with putting /etc under version control



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Re: Gimp and unstable

2009-06-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 08:25:32PM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> On Sun,14.Jun.09, 11:53:26, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>>  
 The libwebkit-1.0-1 package is still available in testing:
>>> So, enabling testing in your sources.list should allow installation 
>>> of gimp without affecting other packages (since you are already 
>>> running Sid).
>>
>> Adeodato Simó (Debian Release Manager) said in regard to libpoppler3 
>> not being installable in sid [1]:
>>
>> ,
>> | Personally I couldn’t care less about installability problems on 
>> user’s | machines running unstable: my take is that those machines 
>> should have | testing in sources.list, period.
>> `
>
> I am glad that policy is imparted by hearsay :-(

What has that got to do with policy?

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==
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god
than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other
possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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Re: mailining list deactivate

2009-06-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:07:25PM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 02:36:39PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > Though there's no reason that the list couldn't tag on another text part
> > > with the unsubscribe footer (though the bigger issue is why doesn't the
> > > guy's mail reader support List-Unsubscribe and List-Subscribe headers in
> > > the first place... it's 2009, they've been around for ~20 years now...).
> 
> I think 11 isn't 20 :)
> 
> On 07.06.09 20:47, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > Mutt doesn't support them, it only has:
> > display-toggle-weed   ---  display message and toggle header weeding
> 
> mostly because mutt is a mail client, while those headers use HTTP notation
> which is imho a big flaw in the RFC 2369...

U ... but mutt supports the List-ID header, (IOW how does it know
whether a message is from a mailing list even without the "subscribe"
and "list" command.)

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==
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god
than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other
possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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Re: what user and password for cups

2009-06-16 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman

Celejar wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:19:52 -0400
Rick Thomas  wrote:


On Jun 14, 2009, at 7:53 PM, whollyg...@letterboxes.org wrote:


On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:30 +0100, "thveillon.debian"
 wrote:

On 13 Jun 2009, gcr...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:
Hi,

I've just installed cups to manage an HP Laserjet 6P.  It web
interface finds the printer everything is peachy until I select
a driver and click on "Add Printer".  At that point I am
prompted for a username and a password.

There's a great deal of seemingly relevant documentation in the CUPS
online help under Getting Started / Managing Operation Policies.  Based
on a very brief perusal of the docs and my pretty bog-standard
cupsd.conf, I'd suggest adding your user to the lpadmin group and
seeing if that helps.
For me, this always worked. Add a user to the lpadmin group and use that 
user to do the printeradmin. Root accounts might work, but might also be 
disabled somehow.
When this is done, point your browser to http://your-machine:631/. I 
find the webconfig of cups quite manageable, and it even allows you to 
set such things as sharing your printers on the net and showing shared 
printers (when your firewall allows, of course)


Sjoerd



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timeriomem-rng and rng-tools

2009-06-16 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List,

I am running my Lenny box with the latest stable kernel (2.6.30):
I want to give a try to the module timeriomem-rng :
after loading it, no /dev/hwrng is present. Installing the package rng-tools
did not help: is it expected ? or is timeriomen-rng not yet supported beyond 
the kernel ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome 
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Re: SATA CD- drive not picked up by system

2009-06-16 Thread thveillon.debian
AG wrote:
> Matthew Moore wrote:
>> On Monday June 15 2009 2:32:18 pm AG wrote:
>>   
>>> Default DVD/CD-drive that plays media.  Sorry - my poor wording. I mean
>>> the device doesn't seem to be automounted when I load an optical disk.
>>>
>>> The applications that play DVD (mplayer, kmplayer, totem) and audio CDs
>>> (kscd, goobox) cannot find the media.  In one bizarre twist, kscd can
>>> read track names, but when prompted to press play claims there's no disk.
>>> 
>>
>> Does it mount correctly for data-only discs? Are you a member of the cdrom 
>> and 
>> plugdev groups (I am not sure if this is still required)? Do you have HAL 
>> installed? Does anything (e.g. usb drives) automount in your DE?
>>
>> MM
>>
>>
>>   
> Hi Matthew & Thierry
> 
> Yes - it loads data disks just fine and also DVD disks that I have burnt
> myself.  When testing it using k3b to burn a DVD, k3b locates the disk
> immediately and burns successfully.  All other USB drives show up fine. 
> As the sole user, I have permissions to load CD-ROMs and as far as I can
> tell I am a member of all of the relevant groups.
> 
> Gnome has an easier time than Xfce4 in picking up that a disk has been
> loaded (i.e. an icon pops up on my desktop in Gnome, but nada in Xfce4).
> 
> It is because of this inconsistency that I am confused: if it was
> completely dead - I'd be looking for a damaged drive/ disconnection.  If
> no audio-CD player found it, I'd be wondering about permissions; if
> nothing worked (i.e. no data disks, etc.) then it may be related to
> something else.  But, because it can automount data CDs and home-made
> DVDs, burn disks fine and that Gnome not Xfce4 picks up the icon, and
> that only Rhythmbox can play the disk that I am so confused by this.  I
> mean, what is with kscd reading the track info but then telling me that
> it cannot play the disk because there is no disk loaded in the player -
> how does it read track info then?
> 
> I am completely at sea with this ... last time I started hacking away at
> my /etc/fstab, changing symlinks and just generally getting myself into
> a mess without accomplishing anything.  This time, after a fresh
> install, I want to leave well enough alone until I can gather some input
> from this community that may help deal with this in a more systematic
> manner.
> 
> So ... any ideas, because I am clean out of any myself and Google is not
> throwing back anything of use and there is nothing in the Debian
> literature nor from user fora that I can see that is helpful.
> 
> Thanks in anticipation.
> 
> AG

Hi, I too have a sata dvd/cd drive, I had trouble installing Etch, but
since then all never versions worked fine. But on another machine, with
the same model I had to do a firmware upgrade before the drive could be
used reliably. Before the upgrade the drive would work for reading, but
any burning attempt was failing.
FWIW, but maybe your drive is having such a problem too.
The bad bad part is I wasn't able to upgrade the firmware on Debian, had
to remove the drive and take it to a computer with a well known
proprietary OS installed. I don't know where "flashrom" is standing on
that matter now.

Hope it helps,

Tom


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Re: SATA CD- drive not picked up by system

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Moore
On Tuesday June 16 2009 12:41:31 am AG wrote:
> Yes - it loads data disks just fine and also DVD disks that I have burnt
> myself.  When testing it using k3b to burn a DVD, k3b locates the disk
> immediately and burns successfully.  All other USB drives show up fine.
> As the sole user, I have permissions to load CD-ROMs and as far as I can
> tell I am a member of all of the relevant groups.
>
> Gnome has an easier time than Xfce4 in picking up that a disk has been
> loaded (i.e. an icon pops up on my desktop in Gnome, but nada in Xfce4).
>
> It is because of this inconsistency that I am confused: if it was
> completely dead - I'd be looking for a damaged drive/ disconnection.  If
> no audio-CD player found it, I'd be wondering about permissions; if
> nothing worked (i.e. no data disks, etc.) then it may be related to
> something else.  But, because it can automount data CDs and home-made
> DVDs, burn disks fine and that Gnome not Xfce4 picks up the icon, and
> that only Rhythmbox can play the disk that I am so confused by this.  

Does it always flawlessly read DVD's? I am not sure if this is the case 
anymore, but back when the combo drives first came out there were separate 
lasers responsible for reading DVD's and CD's. Suppose that the laser for 
reading CD's is slightly damaged. Perhaps short data bursts read okay, but 
prolonged transfers get corrupted. Some applications may be more resistant to 
this corruption (rereading or doing some kind of ECC on the signal), so some 
applications may successfully read and some may not. Occasionally failing to 
read the TOC/metadata may also prevent it from getting automounted by the 
system.

All of this is pure conjecture, but if I were you, I would try getting my 
hands on another SATA CD/DVD drive and seeing if you get the same symptoms. If 
you get the same symptoms, check to see if the SATA drive is attached to a bus 
all by itself. If this is the case, you could have some kind of MB failure on 
that bus and switching the SATA channel may fix the problem.

> I
> mean, what is with kscd reading the track info but then telling me that
> it cannot play the disk because there is no disk loaded in the player -
> how does it read track info then?

Well, if the track info is written to the CD-TEXT section of the audio CD, 
then it could be that the drive is having trouble getting to the rest of the 
CD. If your CD does not have CD-TEXT, then it is probably getting the info 
from some cddb server. This only requires the TOC information, which is also 
written at the start of the disc. In either case, it could be a problem 
reading the rest of the CD. Perhaps you should try transferring a bunch of 
data from a CD/DVD and md5summing it to see if there is some kind of 
corruption going on.

MM


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Re: etckeeper - keeping /etc under version control

2009-06-16 Thread Peter Jordan

Suno Ano, Sun Jun 14 2009 15:04:28 GMT+0200 (CEST):

 Oliver> Thanks a lot. This is great. I had been looking for some tool
 Oliver> like that for a while and had some failed attempts with SVN
 Oliver> (failed with respect to the metadata).

yes, SVN, about that ... see
http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/scm.html#why_git


 Oliver> Thanks for the helpful article and thanks for the pointer to
 Oliver> the tool.

I am glad you like it




you can use svk instead of svn

pj


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