what happened to ftp.de.debian.org
Doesn anybody know? I mean it was down for a few hours. Just asking!! :P Hardware upgrade? :) Thank you!
Re: Debian workstation (desktop) solution
me wrote: Hi, for dvd ripping you could use dvdrip, this is in the debian multimedia repositories: http://debian-multimedia.org/ for the games you can try wine or cedega, wine is in the repositories and cedega is commercial. But beware, it's not always easy to get Windows games running on Linux. Fortunately there are also some native Linux versions, like UnrealTournament, Quake4, Doom3, X2, etc. About DVD ripping, I have always found the native KDE way easier and more transparent. On konqueror you enter dvd:/ (I think) and there you have it ready for ripping (You must have installed the libdvdcss2 library from the debian multimedia repo). As for the games, a question: Has anybody tried playing such a game (Unreal, etc) under a virtualization engine? Virtualbox for example? G. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: any substitute for x window system?
* 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 05:58]: > I'm looking for a pure c/c++ programmed desktop manager, while the > xorg is depandent on perl, so i do not like it, is there any graphics > system which depands only on c/c++ to replace x window system? thanks > No, there is no replacement for X.org. Usage of the console should be no problem for such a purist... Sebastian -- " Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. " | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail s...@sti@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org pgpuxh3Pi65d8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?
* 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 05:33]: > I'm a junior programmer, and I plan to use only c/c++ as my > programming languages, and I don't like python or perl, I hope all the > programs in my own system are written only in c/c++ so that I will be > able to modify them someday in the future. thanks Well that is not very broadminded... And you should, as a programmer, at least have a little knowledge of the most common programming languages. And knowledge of *all* programming paradigmas, which would also include declarative languages. BTW: perl and python are not that hard to learn or read, since their main purpose was to help sysadmins to get their jobs done. And mostly they are not programming gurus... Sebastian -- " Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. " | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail s...@sti@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org pgpfobDt69bTR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?
* 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, > and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to install a desktop > manager without perl and python? which is the proper desktop manager? > thanks > > # apt-cache --installed rdepends (perl|python) should show you which packages depend on perl resp. python. Then you can decide wether you can live without them. Sebastian -- " Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. " | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail s...@sti@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org pgpwtZOcYZvAV.pgp Description: PGP signature
cannot install skype on unstable
Hi
I used to have skype installed but I think a recent dist-upgrade got rid
of it (now my wife _really_ wants it back).
/etc/apt/sources.list has
deb http://people.debian.org/~rafael/skype-amd64 ./
# aptitude install skype
produces
The following packages are BROKEN:
libc6-i386
The following NEW packages will be installed:
ia32-libs{a} ia32-libs-gtk{a} lib32asound2{a} lib32gcc1{a} lib32ncurses5{a}
lib32stdc++6{a} lib32z1{a} skype
0 packages upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 55.8MB of archives. After unpacking 123MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libc6-i386: Breaks: ia32-libs (<= 2.7) but 2.7 is to be installed.
Breaks: ia32-libs-gtk (<= 2.7) but 2.7 is to be installed.
Breaks: lib32asound2 (<= 1.0.20-2) but 1.0.20-2 is to be
installed.
Breaks: lib32ncurses5 (<= 5.7+20090523-1) but 5.7+20090523-1 is
to be installed.
Breaks: lib32z1 (<= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-13) but 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-13 is
to be installed.
I'm not sure what's going on here; libc6-i386 seems to break the other
libraries; apparently <= 2.7 but 2.7 is to be installed; that's still
OK, isn't it? Less than or equal to 2.7 still matches 2.7 so what's
going on?
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Re:
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:01 PM, sai ram wrote: > > Dear Friends! > I use Ubuntu Dapper Drake (on x86 pc) and wanted to install "isomaster" > software package about which I read in a linux magazine. As this package was > unavailable in my synaptic package manager with Ubuntu repositories, I > downloaded the package from Debian website. > While attempting the installation, I encountered dependency errors. I believe > these errors can be overcome by adding appropriate Debian repositories to the > etc/apt/sources.list file of my Ubuntu OS. > > Please > > (1) clarify if I can have both Ubuntu repositories and debian repositories > enabled at the same time ? > (2) Do I need any key to access the Debian repositories ? > (3) give me the exact debian package source location lines, that I need to > add to my etc/sources.list file, so I can henceforth install packages from > Debian repositories without any dependency errors. > 1) You are using quite old Ubuntu release 6.06 I guess that means released in 2006. The package you are looking for is available in latest release ( 9.04 Jaunty Jackalop - released in April 2009) Universal repos. 2) Using Debian repos on Ubuntu or vice-versa is discouraged. 3) Since Debian != Ubuntu, you should ask this question on Ubuntu Mailing List. -- With Regards Abhishek Amberkar Learn to appreciate the beauty within... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny does not recognise blank CD; Etch does.
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 12:18 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 21:35 +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:35 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 20:21 +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: > > > > I have a machine with a dvd writer (/dev/hdc) and a cd writer > > > > (/dev/hdd). > > > > > > > under Lenny, the CD writer will not recognise a blank CD. Nothing. The > > > > DVD writer will recognise one. > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > Humm... you might want to check how HAL detects that devices. There are > > > some GUIs, but you can send a report with: > > > > > > hal-find-by-capability --capability storage.cdrom | xargs hal-device > > > > > > I suppose it's important to have a line with "storage.cdrom.cdrw = > > > true", then we can check "storage.removable.media_available" ... > > > > > > Franklin > > > > > Thanks for the ideas Franklin. > > This looks like it might open a can of worms ... > > Actually, nautilus-cd-burner's README.Debian states: > > "This code detects available CD writers by examining files in /proc. > It will try /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info which is created by the 'cdrom' > module, and /proc/scsi/sg/devices which is created by the 'sg' > module. One of these modules must be loaded for nautilus-cd-burner > to work." > > So, check if the appropriate modules are loaded, then have a look on the > kernel side (which Kernel do you use? can you test 2.6.26 or 2.6.30) > > Franklin > I'm running standard Debian 2.6.26-1-686 kernel. Neither installation has sg devices; both have /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info listing both hdd and hdc. The only difference between them is that the etch one thinks that hdd: Can read MRW: 1 Can write MRW:1 Can write RAM:1 Other than this, both files have the same information. What further investigation should I do? Hope this helps! Bruce. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
any substitute for x window system?
I'm looking for a pure c/c++ programmed desktop manager, while the xorg is depandent on perl, so i do not like it, is there any graphics system which depands only on c/c++ to replace x window system? thanks -- Gnu.Linux.(Debian|gNewSense).Gnome.(Mozilla|Gmail|Evolution|Scim|Flashplayer|Codeblocks) Microsoft.Windows.(Vista|XP).(QQ|Game|Notepad++) Gcc.Gtkmm.Opengl 初禪言語寂滅，二禪覺觀寂滅，三禪喜心寂滅，四禪出入息寂滅于貪欲心、嗔恚心、愚痴心不樂、解脫，是為無上禪。 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sendmail to send mail only, using MX records
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Kelly Jones wrote: I have sendmail installed on etch, but not running as a daemon Why on earth would you do that ... sendmail, like any other MTA these days binds only to 127.0.0.1 by default. When I do: # echo "Test" | /usr/lib/sendmail f...@bar.com the logs show this: Jun 21 11:13:51 debian sendmail[3924]: n5LFDpSS003924: to=...@bar.com, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30005, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] Right... Install sendmail-doc and read /usr/share/doc/sendmail/sendmail/SECURITY.gz For improved security, sendmail has been split into two pieces - the Mail Submission Agent/Program and the Mail Transport Agent. How can I tell /usr/lib/sendmail to do an MX lookup on bar.com and connect to that server, instead of connecting to localhost? You have two basic choices: 1) Allow sendmail daemon to start, things will just work ! 2) setup submit.mc in a null-client type setup using a smart host. I realize my command above has other errors, but if I can solve the MX-lookup issue, I'm sure I can get everything else working. There is no MX lookup issue, the issue is not understanding how sendmail works. I also realize I'll have to run "sendmail -q -v" regularly (via cron?) to flush any stuck messages. Doable, or you can let the default setup just work. -- Rick Nelson Overfiend - BTW, after we've discovered X takes all of 1.4 GIGS to build, are you willing admit that X is bloatware? => KB: there is a 16 1/2 minute gap in my answer knghtbrd: evidence exists that X is only the *2nd* worst windowing system ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > 明覺 wrote: > >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >> reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, >> and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to install a desktop >> manager without perl and python? which is the proper desktop manager? >> thanks > > How does having python, perl installed will affect your c/c++ programmes? I > am just curious. I'm a junior programmer, and I plan to use only c/c++ as my programming languages, and I don't like python or perl, I hope all the programs in my own system are written only in c/c++ so that I will be able to modify them someday in the future. thanks > > raju > -- > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi > http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > > -- Gnu.Linux.(Debian|gNewSense).Gnome.(Mozilla|Gmail|Evolution|Scim|Flashplayer|Codeblocks) Microsoft.Windows.(Vista|XP).(QQ|Game|Notepad++) Gcc.Gtkmm.Opengl 初禪言語寂滅，二禪覺觀寂滅，三禪喜心寂滅，四禪出入息寂滅于貪欲心、嗔恚心、愚痴心不樂、解脫，是為無上禪。 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?
明覺 wrote: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, > and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to install a desktop > manager without perl and python? which is the proper desktop manager? > thanks How does having python, perl installed will affect your c/c++ programmes? I am just curious. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:17 PM, 明覺 wrote: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, > and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to install a desktop > manager without perl and python? which is the proper desktop manager? > thanks Don't know if evilwm is proper, but it's simple/small, cool, and written in C. http://www.6809.org.uk/evilwm/ > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: java
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 05:36:15PM +0100, thveillon.debian wrote: > sun-java is now fully 64 bit, including the plugin, starting with 6-12 > maybe, or even one release earlier. But the icedtea one runs just as > well on my machine, it's just seen as an older version by some > websites and Sun java testing page. Thanks for pointing out that sun-java6-plugin is now in the repositories for 64-bit. I didn't know that. However, installing it doesn't seem to update the plugins, or create an option in update-alternatives for selecting sun-java6-plugin over gcjweb or icedtea. How exactly did you get it to work with iceweasel? -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to install a desktop manager without perl and python? which is the proper desktop manager? thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
genealogy
Any advice about choosing one of geneweb, gramps, and lifelines? Thanks, ... p. crawford _ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: SIP phone
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:58:29 +1000 From: a...@samad.com.au > I think he should install debian on their first and then come back to > ask the list :) Documentation is sparce. After spending the weekend trying to install Debian I abandoned it. Native Oberon works well. Regards, ... p. crawford _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
USB stick - heavy use taking its toll - I/O error, dev sr0..
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 06:41:34PM EDT, Chris Jones wrote: Reviving this long-dead debate. I had noticed these boot time messages in /var/log/kern.log for some time now: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 49150 sr 0:0:0:1: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK sr 0:0:0:1: [sr0] Sense Key : No Sense [current] sr 0:0:0:1: [sr0] Add. Sense: No additional sense information .. and further on: sr 0:0:0:1: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK sr 0:0:0:1: [sr0] Sense Key : No Sense [current] sr 0:0:0:1: [sr0] Add. Sense: No additional sense information end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 196600 The same two sequences are repeated a number of times with different "logical block" and "sector" numbers. I could not find online documentation as to where they come from or their syntax - I could be wrong, but stuff like "Sense Key:" reminds me of scsi messages. On a hunch, I shutdown the laptop, removed the flash drive, rebooted, and sure enough they were gone. I'm guessing, but this looks like the kernel is performing some kind of sanity check on the device and does not like what it finds. Just wondering if this might have any relevance to the device slowly but surely going bad..? In any case, since this concerns only about half a dozen sectors out of apparently tens of thousands, at that rate, it looks like the flash drive will probably outlive its usefulness. Maybe the problem would eventually turn out to be the verbosity of those messages filling up the logs. CJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
against which package to report this regression bug: sound does not work in lenny, but work in etch on notebook toshiba satellite a30
Hi all
I have very strange problem with sound. Sound does not work in Debian
Lenny, but works in Debian Etch. Hardware is Toshiba Satellite a30
(lspci in attachment), with sound card ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97
Audio Controller.
Often the very first time I start playing music after reboot on Debian
Lenny, sound works for certain period of time. Second time xfmedia
hangs, mplayer prints out following in loop:
[AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:405:(snd_pcm_hw_hwsync)
SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HWSYNC failed: Broken pipe
This does not happen in Debian Etch.
My first idea was that this is kernel problem. During boot I got
following suspicious messages (full dmesg is in attachment):
MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
..trying to set up timer (IRQ0) through the 8259A ... failed.
...trying to set up timer as Virtual Wire IRQ... works.
[snip]
atiixp: codec reset timeout
atiixp-modem: no codec available
After some experimenting with kernel boot options, I found out that
sound works with option "acpi=off". Other options, like noapic,
acpi={noirq,strict,force}, pci=noacpi, nolapic_timer do not help.
Using acpi=off is not a very nice solution, because it switches off
other usefull for notebook features.
Suspicious kernel messages mentioned above, appear also with option
"acpi=off".
Installing kernel 2.6.29 (from lenny-backports) does not help.
Additionaly 2.6.29 locks up after some time.
I installed Debian Etch on separate partition and there sound works
without any problem. It work with both 2.6.18 and 2.6.24.
So, I installed kernel 2.6.18 and 2.6.24 from Etch in to the Debian
Lenny (just added etch into sources.list and installed). And this does
not help! I got same sound problems in Debian Lenny with kernels 2.6.18
and 2.6.24 from Etch!
So, it looks like it is not a kernel problem. But I do not know where to
look for a problem now and I do not know against which package should I
report this regression bug.
Please put me on CC when you reply to this message.
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00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS300 Host Bridge (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 IGP AGP Bridge
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc OHCI USB Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc OHCI USB Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc EHCI USB Controller (rev 01)
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SMBus (rev 17)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Dual Channel Bus Master PCI IDE
Controller
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 434c
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP200 3COM 3C920B Ethernet Controller
00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio
Controller
00:14.6 Modem: ATI Technologies Inc IXP AC'97 Modem (rev 01)
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS300M AGP [Radeon
Mobility 9100IGP]
02:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000
Controller (PHY/Link)
02:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
02:04.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB1410 Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[0.00] Linux version 2.6.26-2-686 (Debian 2.6.26-15lenny3)
(da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25))
#1 SMP Thu May 28 15:39:35 UTC 2009
[0.00] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[0.00] BIOS-e820: - 0009f800 (usable)
[0.00] BIOS-e820: 0009f800 - 000a (reserved)
[0.00] BIOS-e820: 000d - 000d8000 (reserved)
[0.00] BIOS-e820: 000e4000 - 0010 (reserved)
[0.00] BIOS-e820: 0010 - 1bf6 (usable)
[0.00] BIOS-e820: 1bf6 - 1bf6d000 (ACPI data)
[0.00] BIOS-e820: 1bf6d000 - 1bf8 (ACPI NVS)
[0.00] BIOS-e820: 1bf8 - 1c00 (reserved)
[0.00] BIOS-e820: 2bf8 - 2c00 (reserved)
[0.00] BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec1 (reserved)
[0.00] BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee01000 (reserved)
[0.00] BIOS-e820: fff8 - 0001 (reserved)
[0.00] 0MB HIGHMEM available.
[0.00] 447MB LOWMEM available.
[0.00] found SMP MP-table at [c00f6700] 000f6700
[0.00] Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 114528) 0 entries of 256 used
[0.00] Zone PFN ranges:
[0.00] DMA 0 -> 4096
[0.00] Normal 4096 -> 114528
[0.00] HighMem114528 -> 114528
[0.00] Movable zone start PFN for each node
[0.00] early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges
[0.00] 0:0 -> 114528
[0.00] On node 0 totalpages: 114
Mono - Which Components 2 Install ?
Hi; I'm planning on installing Mono in order to develop some .NET Web Applications. Upon getting Aptitude to show me all the 'mono' packages I'm confused as to which to intstall. I'm running Stable (Lenny) BTW. Specifically what's the difference between the following; p mono-apache-server - ASP.NET backend for mod_mono Apache module p mono-apache-server2 - ASP.NET backend for mod_mono2 Apache module Actually I guess I should just ask what do I need to install to get current ASP.NET development ability with Postgres ? Thanks. -- Regards, S. Fishpaste -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian workstation (desktop) solution
Eike Lantzsch a écrit : > On Sunday 21 June 2009, Fred Zinsli wrote: >> Hello all >> >> I have been usind Debian for some years now, but exclusively as a server >> platform. >> >> My partner has a VISTA machine > [snip] >> >> I am wanting to offer her a Debian solution in pace of her windowz >> solution but I thought I would ask some questions first. >> >> Apart from the basic web surfing and email stuff I asked her what else she >> really must be able to do. >> >> They are: >> 1. Rip (copy) DVD movies. We copy every single movie we own and only play >> the copied movie. This includes copywright movies. I won't get into the >> discussion over copying our movies. >> > [snip] > > > After trying dvdrip for DVD ripping I'm now using k9copy. > > > Cheers, Eike > > And "handbrake" is a neat tool too for dvd ripping. But whatever the software you will need libdvdcss2 for commercial dvd's. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian workstation (desktop) solution
On Sunday 21 June 2009, Fred Zinsli wrote: > Hello all > > I have been usind Debian for some years now, but exclusively as a server > platform. > > My partner has a VISTA machine [snip] > > I am wanting to offer her a Debian solution in pace of her windowz > solution but I thought I would ask some questions first. > > Apart from the basic web surfing and email stuff I asked her what else she > really must be able to do. > > They are: > 1. Rip (copy) DVD movies. We copy every single movie we own and only play > the copied movie. This includes copywright movies. I won't get into the > discussion over copying our movies. > [snip] After trying dvdrip for DVD ripping I'm now using k9copy. Cheers, Eike
Re: Backup config files in home directory
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:26:54 -0600 Matthew Moore wrote: ... > As far as recommendations go, I would like to say that instead of messing > around with hard links to get an incremental backup solution, I would use > rdiff-backup, which was written for this exact purpose (rsync + hard links). Or rsnapshot. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Testing update broke gnome/metacity and network-manager
Matteo Riva wrote: > * gnome panel now does not make the desktop and windows aware of it (or > most likely metacity does not properly interact with it): the > panels overlap with icons and maximized windows take full screen > ending up under the panels The same problem here :) It seems it's already reported in bugzilla: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533917 Best regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sendmail to send mail only, using MX records
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:55:44PM -0700, Kelly Jones wrote: > On 6/21/09, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Kelly Jones wrote: > >> I have sendmail installed on etch, > > > > Is there a reason not to upgrade to Lenny, the current stable? This > > is outside of your current problem but you really should think about > > keeping current. > > I plan to use a cluster of cheap VPS' for redundancy. Many VPS > providers now offer etch; very few offer lenny. > > > Using Sendmail is probably okay but IMNHO there are better choices. > > Would you entertain using a different MTA? If you want a full > > internet site mailer then I recommend that you install and use either > > Postfix or Exim. I personally prefer Postfix. But in either case you > > could simply install and it would solve your problem. > > > > apt-get install postfix > > > > Answer the debconf questions for an internet site and then you are > > set. No other configuration is needed. > > I'm happy to use any MTA that 1) delivers email to anydomain.com using > its MX record, 2) queues mail that it can't send, and 3) doesn't run a > daemon (I don't accept incoming email on these servers). > > I had exim4 installed, but it kept telling me "not configured to send > mail to remote hosts" or something. > > Postfix will really just work "out of the box"? Both Exim and Postfix have a simple debconf-based configurator . dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config #dpkg-reconfigure postfix I personally prefer postfix. But Exim is also well-supported here. > debian:~# dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail > dpkg: /usr/sbin/sendmail not found. > debian:~# ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 2009-06-19 16:17 /usr/lib/sendmail -> > /etc/alternativ\ > es/lib.sendmail* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2009-06-19 16:17 /usr/sbin/sendmail -> > /etc/alternati\ > ves/sendmail* > > Hmmm, what the heck am I running? /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display sendmail -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian workstation (desktop) solution
Fred Zinsli a écrit : > Hello all > > I have been usind Debian for some years now, but exclusively as a server > platform. > > My partner has a VISTA machine and she is always having problems with it. > No surprises there I guess. > > I am wanting to offer her a Debian solution in pace of her windowz > solution but I thought I would ask some questions first. > > Apart from the basic web surfing and email stuff I asked her what else she > really must be able to do. > > They are: > 1. Rip (copy) DVD movies. We copy every single movie we own and only play > the copied movie. This includes copywright movies. I won't get into the > discussion over copying our movies. > > 2. Play her games. They are all windowz based games like call of duty and > the like. > > Can I meet the above requirements in either etch or lenny and if so can > someone please point me to where I can get the information to allow me to > setup the new platform to meet those requirements for her. > > Many thanks in advance for any comments. > > Regards > > Fred > > > Hi, very good idea to switch, even better for Debian. There will be no problem/limitation regarding multimedia stuff, I use heavily my Debian workstation for multimedia processing: video editing, digital photography, music ripping and the like and I have never really suffered from using Debian (with debian-multimedia.org repository that is). Regarding windows games, I am not an expert at all, but I have used the "playonlinux" package (available in "contrib") with is a Wine "facilitator" (scripts to installed required dll's and such), it could help. As said by another poster there's commercial solutions especially dedicated to windows games on Linux, and of course quality games available directly on Linux. I think www.phoronix.com could be a good starting point for those matters. Happy switching ! Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sendmail to send mail only, using MX records
Kelly Jones wrote: > On 6/21/09, Bob Proulx wrote: > >> Kelly Jones wrote: >> >> Is there a reason not to upgrade to Lenny, the current stable? This >> is outside of your current problem but you really should think about >> keeping current. >> > > I plan to use a cluster of cheap VPS' for redundancy. Many VPS > providers now offer etch; very few offer lenny. > You can ask for an Etch VM and upgrade it to Lenny. It will probably still run an older kernel, but this should bring no problems. -- Your education begins where what is called your education is over. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Backup config files in home directory
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:57:09PM +0200, Suno Ano wrote: > > Matthew> Unison is the "more complicated than necessary" option here. > Matthew> If all that is needed is backup, unison is not the best > Matthew> choice. > > true, but then having a backup without a clearly defined restore > scenario does not make a lot of sense. Once Unison is up and running > that part can be considered done as well. Likewise for any "rsync+hardlinks" solution (like rdiff-backup). Except that you get an incremental backup. Hence it's easier to have more than one copy. Restore? cp -a . Or your favorite file manager. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Backup config files in home directory
Matthew> Unison is the "more complicated than necessary" option here. Matthew> If all that is needed is backup, unison is not the best Matthew> choice. true, but then having a backup without a clearly defined restore scenario does not make a lot of sense. Once Unison is up and running that part can be considered done as well. Finally it probably comes down to individual taste ... as we know, many roads lead to Rome ;) pgpAnt3seZBBs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sendmail to send mail only, using MX records
On 6/21/09, Bob Proulx wrote: > Kelly Jones wrote: >> I have sendmail installed on etch, > > Is there a reason not to upgrade to Lenny, the current stable? This > is outside of your current problem but you really should think about > keeping current. I plan to use a cluster of cheap VPS' for redundancy. Many VPS providers now offer etch; very few offer lenny. > Using Sendmail is probably okay but IMNHO there are better choices. > Would you entertain using a different MTA? If you want a full > internet site mailer then I recommend that you install and use either > Postfix or Exim. I personally prefer Postfix. But in either case you > could simply install and it would solve your problem. > > apt-get install postfix > > Answer the debconf questions for an internet site and then you are > set. No other configuration is needed. I'm happy to use any MTA that 1) delivers email to anydomain.com using its MX record, 2) queues mail that it can't send, and 3) doesn't run a daemon (I don't accept incoming email on these servers). I had exim4 installed, but it kept telling me "not configured to send mail to remote hosts" or something. Postfix will really just work "out of the box"? >> How can I tell /usr/lib/sendmail to do an MX lookup on bar.com and >> connect to that server, instead of connecting to localhost? > > That question makes me wonder if you really have sendmail installed. > This is pedantic but please double check. > > dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail > > Because the behavior reads to me like a different mta program. You're right! But I explicitly removed exim4 and exim4-base and did "apt-get install sendmail". Here's what various commands return: debian:~# dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail dpkg: /usr/sbin/sendmail not found. debian:~# dpkg -l | fgrep -i sendmail ii sendmail 8.13.8-3 powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans ii sendmail-base 8.13.8-3 powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans ii sendmail-bin 8.13.8-3 powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans ii sendmail-cf 8.13.8-3 powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans debian:~# sendmail -d0.1 Version 8.13.8 Compiled with: DNSMAP LDAPMAP LDAP_REFERRALS LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS NISPLUS PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF SOCKETMAP STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB USE_LDAP_INIT XDEBUG SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) (short domain name) $w = [removed] (canonical domain name) $j = [removed] (subdomain name) $m = [removed] (node name) $k = [removed] Recipient names must be specified debian:~# ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 2009-06-19 16:17 /usr/lib/sendmail -> /etc/alternativ\ es/lib.sendmail* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2009-06-19 16:17 /usr/sbin/sendmail -> /etc/alternati\ ves/sendmail* Hmmm, what the heck am I running? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian workstation (desktop) solution
Hi, for dvd ripping you could use dvdrip, this is in the debian multimedia repositories: http://debian-multimedia.org/ for the games you can try wine or cedega, wine is in the repositories and cedega is commercial. But beware, it's not always easy to get Windows games running on Linux. Fortunately there are also some native Linux versions, like UnrealTournament, Quake4, Doom3, X2, etc. Check out the Wine compatibility database at: http://www.winehq.org/ Greetings, vitaminx 2009/6/21 Fred Zinsli > Hello all > > I have been usind Debian for some years now, but exclusively as a server > platform. > > My partner has a VISTA machine and she is always having problems with it. > No surprises there I guess. > > I am wanting to offer her a Debian solution in pace of her windowz > solution but I thought I would ask some questions first. > > Apart from the basic web surfing and email stuff I asked her what else she > really must be able to do. > > They are: > 1. Rip (copy) DVD movies. We copy every single movie we own and only play > the copied movie. This includes copywright movies. I won't get into the > discussion over copying our movies. > > 2. Play her games. They are all windowz based games like call of duty and > the like. > > Can I meet the above requirements in either etch or lenny and if so can > someone please point me to where I can get the information to allow me to > setup the new platform to meet those requirements for her. > > Many thanks in advance for any comments. > > Regards > > Fred > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > -- www ... http://www.callistix.net/ mail ... vitam...@callistix.net irc ... #chezpaeule @ euirc mud ... vitaminx @ aardmud
Debian workstation (desktop) solution
Hello all I have been usind Debian for some years now, but exclusively as a server platform. My partner has a VISTA machine and she is always having problems with it. No surprises there I guess. I am wanting to offer her a Debian solution in pace of her windowz solution but I thought I would ask some questions first. Apart from the basic web surfing and email stuff I asked her what else she really must be able to do. They are: 1. Rip (copy) DVD movies. We copy every single movie we own and only play the copied movie. This includes copywright movies. I won't get into the discussion over copying our movies. 2. Play her games. They are all windowz based games like call of duty and the like. Can I meet the above requirements in either etch or lenny and if so can someone please point me to where I can get the information to allow me to setup the new platform to meet those requirements for her. Many thanks in advance for any comments. Regards Fred -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Received "You had a Kernel Error"
> Are you given any option to view the error report? I'm not familiar enough > with Gnowe to know about any utility that reports kernel errors. Sadly no, I thought to do that first, but it doesn't let me actually view anything. The machine it happens on, is still up and running fine, I even rebooted to see if anything showed up, but nothing at all, which makes me wonder why. It's odd to me, that not only does it say it's a Kernel error, but that I can't view it, and also, that I couldn't find a thing. > Have you checked the dmesg output also, soon after the error? Yup, at first I looked in /var/log/kern, and didn't find anything that was an error, and so I went to dmesg and looked in there, but again, even when I saw the error, and checked the time, I looked first at the time I saw it happen to see if at that moment in time there was something in the logs, but nothing, so then I looked over all the logs, and I can't find a thing. It's odd to say the least, because not onyl is there no log messages showing it, but on top of that, the machine still works fine... I mean as of right now, I've decided to let it go, since everything is still working just fine, and I'm trying to more or less wait until it happens again to see if I can find anything. Thanks much. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Received "You had a Kernel Error"
Allen Kenner wrote at 2009-06-19 15:48 -0500: > I'm using Debian 5.0.1 on a few of my machines here, and for some > reason, with almost the same installation on two machines, one of them > has twice so far said in Gnome "You had a Kernel Error" and asked if I > wanted to send it to the Kernel.org thing. Are you given any option to view the error report? I'm not familiar enough with Gnowe to know about any utility that reports kernel errors. > I'm not sure why this is happening really, because it so far has > happened twice. Once while I was working on something, which I can't > recall, and then today when I came in the room where we keep the > machines, I turn the monitor on, move the mouse, and it says it again. > The only things open were: > > I've checked log files looking for something to tell me what happened, > and so far nothing has come up as being a reason for a Kernel problem. > > I read through all relevant logs, but nothing about the error was there. Have you checked the dmesg output also, soon after the error? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sendmail to send mail only, using MX records
Kelly Jones wrote: > I have sendmail installed on etch, Is there a reason not to upgrade to Lenny, the current stable? This is outside of your current problem but you really should think about keeping current. Using Sendmail is probably okay but IMNHO there are better choices. Would you entertain using a different MTA? If you want a full internet site mailer then I recommend that you install and use either Postfix or Exim. I personally prefer Postfix. But in either case you could simply install and it would solve your problem. apt-get install postfix Answer the debconf questions for an internet site and then you are set. No other configuration is needed. > How can I tell /usr/lib/sendmail to do an MX lookup on bar.com and > connect to that server, instead of connecting to localhost? That question makes me wonder if you really have sendmail installed. This is pedantic but please double check. dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail Because the behavior reads to me like a different mta program. If you are simply wanting to forward all of your mail to a mail relay where it will handle the task then I recommend nullmailer. apt-get install nullmailer If you are not interested in anything but Sendmail then please pardon the suggestions otherwise. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Backup config files in home directory
On Saturday 20 June 2009 11:29:14 pm Suno Ano wrote: > Tzafrir> If you want to follow that route, you can use rsync as well. > Tzafrir> Or even go a bit further and use hard-links (-H) to make > Tzafrir> yourself a "wayback machine". > > Unison basically is a bidirectional rsync (the rsync algorithm is used), > so why make things more complicated than necessary ... Unison is the "more complicated than necessary" option here. If all that is needed is backup, unison is not the best choice. As far as recommendations go, I would like to say that instead of messing around with hard links to get an incremental backup solution, I would use rdiff-backup, which was written for this exact purpose (rsync + hard links). MM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: invissible printer
Jude DaShiell wrote: > I have a new Panasonic 1123 dot matrix printer I've been trying to get > working with debian and cups can't seem to find it. lpadmin fails and > printconf can't do anything either. Are these printers even Linux > compatible and if so, how can I set this up so it will print? I chose a > dot matrix printer because they're low maintenance compared to all the > more modern options and more reliable as well. If this really isn't a > good brand and/or model, can anyone suggest better alternatives? I may be > able to get this replaced with an alternative printer eventually. http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Panasonic-KX-P1123 Not sure if this is the exact model. -- A lack of leadership is no substitute for inaction. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: invissible printer
Jude DaShiell wrote: > I have a new Panasonic 1123 dot matrix printer I've been trying to get > working with debian and cups can't seem to find it. lpadmin fails and > printconf can't do anything either. Are these printers even Linux > compatible and if so, how can I set this up so it will print? I chose a > dot matrix printer because they're low maintenance compared to all the > more modern options and more reliable as well. If this really isn't a > good brand and/or model, can anyone suggest better alternatives? I may be > able to get this replaced with an alternative printer eventually. This should help: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Panasonic-KX-P1123 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
invissible printer
I have a new Panasonic 1123 dot matrix printer I've been trying to get working with debian and cups can't seem to find it. lpadmin fails and printconf can't do anything either. Are these printers even Linux compatible and if so, how can I set this up so it will print? I chose a dot matrix printer because they're low maintenance compared to all the more modern options and more reliable as well. If this really isn't a good brand and/or model, can anyone suggest better alternatives? I may be able to get this replaced with an alternative printer eventually. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
dbmail + thunderbird
Hi guys, I'm having some issues with Thunderbird 2.0.21 (OSX and Lenny) and dbmail. The problem is that when I move mail from one account into the dbmail account, it fails and prompts me for the account password. When this happens, it doesn't accept the password, despite supplying the correct password. I have to restart Thunderbird to get it to work properly again for this account. It happens when it's more than a few mails at a time. I have not been able to determine how many precisely, and it's intermittent. Today it's not doing it at all. Some days it's doing it for three or more mails, some days I can move 10 or so at a time. Has anybody encountered this problem? I've tried the Thunderbird 3 beta releases, they do the same. KMail doesn't. Thanks --kj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Sendmail to send mail only, using MX records
I have sendmail installed on etch, but not running as a daemon. When I do: # echo "Test" | /usr/lib/sendmail f...@bar.com the logs show this: Jun 21 11:13:51 debian sendmail[3924]: n5LFDpSS003924: to=...@bar.com, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30005, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] How can I tell /usr/lib/sendmail to do an MX lookup on bar.com and connect to that server, instead of connecting to localhost? I realize my command above has other errors, but if I can solve the MX-lookup issue, I'm sure I can get everything else working. I also realize I'll have to run "sendmail -q -v" regularly (via cron?) to flush any stuck messages. -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently
On Sat,20.Jun.09, 22:38:17, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 15.06.09 09:36, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > Doing the former allows me to open new tabs as root, doing the latter > > (with 'su') requires that I provide my root password every time; using > > 'sudo' requires that I provide 'sudo command' every time. It's just a > > lot less convenient, but still doable, which is why the security > > excuse is BS. It's yet another example of sacrificing function to > > fear. > > Are you fully aware that in such case, only your password will be needed to > get full system access instead of requiring root's password? If the account used for accessing root is compromised it is quite easy to also get the root password, so this doesn't bring any additional security. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mailining list deactivate
On Sat,20.Jun.09, 22:50:16, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > (IOW how does it know whether a message is from a mailing list even > > without the "subscribe" and "list" command.) > > But it can't differ between those two so at least 'subscribe' is needed. > I've already had problem with the List-Id: in mutt... Not really: $ grep subscribe .mutt/* $ Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: java
>Todd A. Jacobs wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 02:16:10PM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > >> I just want to install a Java runtime environment which will allow me >> to see Java applets in action. It seems I have the choice of (at > > If you're running 64-bit, your choice of plugin is rather restricted. On > my system, I use the icedtea6-plugin. On the other hand, if you want to > run Java applications (e.g. not as a plugin), the sun-java6-jre works > well. > [snip...] sun-java is now fully 64 bit, including the plugin, starting with 6-12 maybe, or even one release earlier. But the icedtea one runs just as well on my machine, it's just seen as an older version by some websites and Sun java testing page. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: install "isomaster" from DEbian on Ubuntu
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 07:31 +, sai ram wrote: > install "isomaster" First of all you really need to put in a subject. I only look at blank ones when they happen to be the first in line & the preview feature on evolution opens them automatically. As to the problem. I have some small experience with Ubuntu, but a lot with linux in general. I run Debs exclusively. My suggestion is to either use apt-build if Ubuntu has it to convert the .deb source to your system. Other & probably the best is to compile from scratch as in "roll your own". It is generally a bad idea to mix to Debian variants on the same system, though I have done it. I have never, & would NEVER try it on a production system. Too often the dependencies are like a row of dominoes falling they fork and require other dependencies & so on. Good Luck!! -- John Foster -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Network fails on Lenny
Alejandro Barocio A. wrote: > When I installed Lenny with the official DVD Binary 1 the network > connection stoped working. Previously, I had Etch 4.0_r5 And > everything worked fine. > > My greater concern is that I still can recive my email via POP > and use messaging with XMPP, also I can connect to my computer > via SMB, HTTP (and, I *fear*, other protocols; so I can be accessed > by the world, but can't access the rest of the world). No output > protocols wok! > > I use to think that the problem was on a WinXP I use as gateway, > but my machine didn't work on ant other connection (not even direct > connection to the DSL modem nor 3.5G USB modem). > > Can anybody tell me what's the problem?, or where can I start? > If you can connect to your machine via SMB or HTTP and you can use POP to retrieve email then we can conclude that the network connection is working. In order to test your network connection do the following as root or sudo: Open a console 1. Check if your network card has been detected ifconfig -a This will list all network cards found. The first wired network card in Debian is normally "eth0", the second "eth1", etc. 2. Check if your network card has been configured with an IP address. ifconfig eth0 You will see something like this; Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:21:86:61:14:d8 inet addr:192.168.6.217 Bcast:192.168.6.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Memory:fc20-fc22 If you see the above then your card is configured. If the second line (inet addr:)is missing then it is not. Since you stated that you can connect to the machine then I think the network card is configured. 3. Ping tests. This will let you know if the card is working and if you can connect to other devices on the network. Loop back test. This tests the functionality of the network card ping 127.0.0.1 There show be no errors or data loss. Use ctrl+c to stop Assigned IP test. This will test the card with it assigned IP address. ping 192.168.6.217 192.168.6.217 is the address you found using "ifconfig eth0" There should be no errors or data loss. Ping router: This will test if the machine can connect to your router. Find out what your router address is. It should be on the same subnet as your machine. In this example 192.168.6.???. Normally the router is 1. So in this case... ping 192.168.6.1 There should be no errors or data loss. Also look at /etc/network/interfaces to see the setup of your network cards. If all the above is OK then your network connection is good. The next thing to checked is DNS (Domain Name Service/System). Check to see if you can resolve Internet domain names. Us the dig command to do this. dig www.debian.org The result should contain at least one answer with the IP address of www.debian.org. If not then DNS is not configured properly or the DNS server is not functioning. First check your DNS settings cat /etc/resolve.conf You should see something like this: # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN nameserver 192.168.6.1 nameserver 4.2.2.1 search your_domain.prv You should see at least one nameserver IP address. If there is none and you are using DHCP then our DHCP server is not issuing the IP for the DNS server. Problem with DHCP server. If there are one or more nameservers then first ping then and use them with dig ping 192.168.6.1 ping 4.2.2.1 Use ctrl-c to stop should complete with no errors or data loss Use dig to check them. dig @192.168.6.1 www.debian.org dig @4.2.2.1 www.debian.org You should get at least one answer with the resolved IP address of www.debian.org. If not then try another DNS server. You can search the Internet for free DNS servers. 4.2.2.1 is a free DNS server. Have fun :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: java applets
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 16:40 +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > > Humm, installing sun-java6-plugin (or sun-java5-plugin or > > icedtea-gcjwebplugin) should pull all the required > > dependencies. > > Yess.. but that means I'll have at least two jre's: sun-java6 and > the one required by Azureus/Vuze. How can I be sure that they > won't "bite" each other? Now, with only the openjdk-6-jre > installed, I don't see any applets working, but at least Iceweasel > does not crash/become unresponsive, as it did invariably on > applet-containing pages twhen there were 2 or more jre's. > > >> Does anybody know of a decent tutorial for setting up jre, > >> any jre, on Debian? > > > Hopefully, "aptitude install sun-java6-plugin" should be > > enough. > > But I need the openjdk-6-jre as well because of Azureus/Vuze. To be on the safe side for your tests, you might want to remove openjdk. > > "doesn't work" is a bit short. > > In this case it means: after restarting the browser, the plugin > does not show in about:plugins. Can you list the plugins in iceweasel, typically, with the _one_line_ command: find /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/ -name *.so \ | xargs -n 1 readlink -m | xargs dpkg -S > And applets do not work; I get an > invitation to click something to download the plugin, but then it > says that there is no appropriate plugin available. :( Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: java
> If you're running 32-bit, you'll probably just want the > sun-java6-plugin. I am running 32-bit. But if I kill openjdk-6-jre, I'd lose Azureus/Vuze, which I use to download Korean soap operas. My wife, who is addicted to the things, would kill me if I did. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: DEBIAN REPOSITORIES FOR UBUNTU DAPPER ?
sai ram wrote: Dear Friends! I use Ubuntu Dapper Drake (on x86 pc) and wanted to install "isomaster" software package about which I read in a linux magazine. As this package was unavailable in my synaptic package manager with Ubuntu repositories, I downloaded the package from Debian website. While attempting the installation, I encountered dependency errors. I believe these errors can be overcome by adding appropriate Debian repositories to the etc/apt/sources.list file of my Ubuntu OS. Please (1) clarify if I can have both Ubuntu repositories and debian repositories enabled at the same time ? (2) Do I need any key to access the Debian repositories ? (3) give me the exact debian package source location lines, that I need to add to my etc/sources.list file, so I can henceforth install packages from Debian repositories without any dependency errors. sai ram: Some details of the wording of your questions indicate a serious misunderstanding of the relationship between Ubuntu and Debian. For each question there are several terse, and accurate, answers that are also seriously misleading. Ubuntu and Debian are both more than an operating system. Each is also an organization of people who have joined together to achieve common goals. For these two organizations, the goals are similar, but not identical. For example, neither organization makes any promise that its software packages will work safely when loaded into a computer that is running the other OS. And neither collection of people makes any claim to even know what will happen if you try. A lot of work goes into packaging each piece of software in the Debian repository so that the install process fixes all the picky details of getting that software to install properly *on*a*Debian*host*. Only some packages, where the maintainer happens to be interested in both Debian and Ubuntu, are tested in any way for the other OS. And where the maintainer does work on both OSs, (s)he probably doesn't produce a single package that simply works on both. Rather (s)he produces a single set of package construction source code that when run though the package generation software turns out two different packages, one for Ubuntu and one for Debian. So to your questions: (1) clarify if I can have both Ubuntu repositories and debian repositories enabled at the same time? You can have both repositories enabled by having more lines in your sources.list, some for Debian and some for Ubuntu. It is not difficult, but it will lead to grief, because you are mistaken in you faith that the two will work together nicely, and there is nothing that the members of either community can do to help make it work nicely. (2) Do I need any key to access the Debian repositories ? Yes. It is available as a package in the Debian repository. Installing it might conflict with Ubuntu key installation. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure both organizations use similar techniques for key distribution and have given little thought to making the system work when working on a different OS that plays by the similar rules. (3) give me the exact debian package source location lines, that I need to add to my etc/sources.list file, so I can henceforth install packages from Debian repositories without any dependency errors. There is a long list of local mirrors of the master Debian repositories available in the Debian web site (www.debian.org). The easiest way to find an appropriate Debian repository mirror is to follow the directions for installing Debian on a separate partition on your computer. A general remark: I have never worked with Ubuntu, but I have the impression that a major goal of Ubuntu is to make computer use 'easy' for non-experts. By contrast, my impression of Debian is that a major goal of Debian is to make life easier for a sysadmin of a small to mid-size enterprise, eg a public school system, a small college, a mid-size business, etc. Part of making life easier for sysadmins is helping them become more expert at their job. To this end, the more expert followers of this list try to give polite answers to questions however ill-formed they seem to be. In contrast, making things easy for users leads to answers that tend to hide the real complexity of a situation. If you really feel that you need to ask questions on this list, it indicates, to me, that you perceive the answers available here are somehow more informative than the answers on a corresponding Ubuntu list. But you can't really validate the answers you get here unless you have a Debian system on which to test them. So, install Debian in a separate partition. Continue to use Ubuntu as much as you wish, but don't mix the two until you are confident that you are expert in both. HTH begin:vcard fn:Paul E Condon n:;Paul E Condon email;internet:pecon...@mesanetworks.net x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: java applets
Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > Humm, installing sun-java6-plugin (or sun-java5-plugin or > icedtea-gcjwebplugin) should pull all the required > dependencies. Yess.. but that means I'll have at least two jre's: sun-java6 and the one required by Azureus/Vuze. How can I be sure that they won't "bite" each other? Now, with only the openjdk-6-jre installed, I don't see any applets working, but at least Iceweasel does not crash/become unresponsive, as it did invariably on applet-containing pages twhen there were 2 or more jre's. >> Does anybody know of a decent tutorial for setting up jre, >> any jre, on Debian? > Hopefully, "aptitude install sun-java6-plugin" should be > enough. But I need the openjdk-6-jre as well because of Azureus/Vuze. > "doesn't work" is a bit short. In this case it means: after restarting the browser, the plugin does not show in about:plugins. And applets do not work; I get an invitation to click something to download the plugin, but then it says that there is no appropriate plugin available. I know that, running Sid, I cannot expect the Moon. But I've had this problem for 6 months or so now. And I haven't a clue which package I should file a bug against. This is typically one of those "inter-package" bugs for which the BTS does not seem to be very suitable. Perhaps we need a "java task force" (as well as a "sound task force"). Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mixing debian and ubuntu [WAS] Re:
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 09:56 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On 21 Jun 2009 07:31:11 - > "sai ram" wrote: > > > Dear Friends! > > I use Ubuntu Dapper Drake (on x86 pc) and wanted to install "isomaster" > > software package about which I read in a linux magazine. As this package > > was unavailable in my synaptic package manager with Ubuntu repositories, Mixing distributions is a bad idea. If you need more recent versions, you should consider upgrading to a more recent version of Ubuntu (or Debian ;) > > I downloaded the package from Debian website. If you don't want to upgrade your distro, you should pick the package from a distribution as close from the orignal as possible. In this situation, http:// packages.ubuntu.com/isomaster says it's from Hardy. But again Mixing distributions is a bad idea (Of course, it is likely to solve your current problem, but it is also likely that you will face some [compatibility] problems that no one have). > > While attempting the installation, I encountered dependency errors. > I believe these errors can be overcome by adding appropriate Debian > repositories to the etc/apt/sources.list file of my Ubuntu OS. > > (3) give me the exact debian package source location lines, that I > need to add to my etc/sources.list file, so I can henceforth install > packages from Debian repositories without any dependency errors. > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free BTW, the URL are http://ftp.XX.debian.org (the http.us.debian.org exists for backward compatibility) Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: java
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 02:16:10PM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > I just want to install a Java runtime environment which will allow me > to see Java applets in action. It seems I have the choice of (at If you're running 64-bit, your choice of plugin is rather restricted. On my system, I use the icedtea6-plugin. On the other hand, if you want to run Java applications (e.g. not as a plugin), the sun-java6-jre works well. There are also exotic solutions for running 32-bit iceweasel with the standard java plugins inside a 32-bit chroot, but I've never gone down that road. If you're running 32-bit, you'll probably just want the sun-java6-plugin. -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Icons disappear from toolbar in KDE applications (k3b, amarok, soundkonverter, …) running on Xfce
Hi Andrei […] > > > It sounds to me like it might something as simple as you may have > > > removed the images used for those little icons. > What icon themes do you have installed? The xfce4-icon-theme is known to > be incomplete: […] But the icons appear *BEFORE* kcontrol is installed. In other words, they're installed, no matter which package they come from. I double checked and the installation of kcontrol didn't cause removal of anything, so the icons should still be there. kcontrol messes something up and they can't be reached anymore. Thanks ! Paulo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: java applets
Hello, On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 14:16 +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > I just want to install a Java runtime environment which will allow > me to see Java applets in action. It seems I have the choice of > (at least) > > default-jre > gcj-4.4-jre > gcj-jre > icedtea-6-jre-cacao > openoffice.org (includes its own jre, apparently) > openjdk-6-jre (required by Azureus/Vuze; it does not seem to > accept other Javas) > sun-java5-jre > sun-java6-jre The JRE package don't provide web browser plugins (to use applet), you need to install an extra package, which contains the plugin. > Today I did another attempt: rigorously dpkg --purge'd any trace > of any other jre than openjdk-6-jre. It does not have a mozilla > plugin, but "suggests" installing icedtea6-plugin and > sun-java6-fonts. But then sun-java6-fonts wants to install > sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre, and "suggests" sun-java6-plugin > and ia32-sun-java6-plugin. Yep, so I suppose you installed the whole thing. > And the icedtea6-plugin does not work... "doesn't work" is a bit short. What did you do (restart the web browser?), What did you test?, what worked what didn't? Does the page "about:plugins" lists the plugins? Did you test http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml ? > This is dependency hell. Humm, installing sun-java6-plugin (or sun-java5-plugin or icedtea-gcjwebplugin) should pull all the required dependencies. > Does anybody know of a decent tutorial > for setting up jre, any jre, on Debian? Hopefully, "aptitude install sun-java6-plugin" should be enough. > With only one boundary condition: it should work. I haven't been able > to see applets working for about half a year now. More on http://wiki.debian.org/Java -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
mixing debian and ubuntu [WAS] Re:
On 21 Jun 2009 07:31:11 - "sai ram" wrote: > Dear Friends! > I use Ubuntu Dapper Drake (on x86 pc) and wanted to install "isomaster" > software package about which I read in a linux magazine. As this package was > unavailable in my synaptic package manager with Ubuntu repositories, I > downloaded the package from Debian website. > While attempting the installation, I encountered dependency errors. I believe > these errors can be overcome by adding appropriate Debian repositories to the > etc/apt/sources.list file of my Ubuntu OS. > > Please > > (1) clarify if I can have both Ubuntu repositories and debian repositories > enabled at the same time ? No idea. > (2) Do I need any key to access the Debian repositories ? http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt > (3) give me the exact debian package source location lines, that I need to > add to my etc/sources.list file, so I can henceforth install packages from > Debian repositories without any dependency errors. deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free You may want a different mirror, flavor, or list of sections. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Icons disappear from toolbar in KDE applications (k3b, amarok, soundkonverter, …) running on Xfce
Hi Rustan ! > i don't have any idea about this, sorry. i found a lot bug report while > googling regarding kcontrol. perhaps you can change to KDE 4, as > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=300658#14 > mentioned that kcontrols doesn't exist in KDE 4. I also saw those bug reports. But I used xfce … And I switched to xfce precisely because I wasn't happy with KDE 4. Thanks just the same Paulo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: java
Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > I just want to install a Java runtime environment which will allow > me to see Java applets in action. It seems I have the choice of > (at least) > > default-jre > gcj-4.4-jre > gcj-jre > icedtea-6-jre-cacao > openoffice.org (includes its own jre, apparently) > openjdk-6-jre (required by Azureus/Vuze; it does not seem to > accept other Javas) > sun-java5-jre > sun-java6-jre > > Today I did another attempt: rigorously dpkg --purge'd any trace > of any other jre than openjdk-6-jre. It does not have a mozilla > plugin, but "suggests" installing icedtea6-plugin and > sun-java6-fonts. But then sun-java6-fonts wants to install > sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre, and "suggests" sun-java6-plugin > and ia32-sun-java6-plugin. And the icedtea6-plugin does not work... > > This is dependency hell. Does anybody know of a decent tutorial > for setting up jre, any jre, on Debian? With only one boundary > condition: it should work. I haven't been able to see applets > working for about half a year now. > If you do not have any restrictions regarding the use of Sun's Java, just install it's plugin: sun-java6-plugin. It's the one that will give the best compatibility anyway. -- A national debt, if it is not excessive, will be to us a national blessing. -- Alexander Hamilton Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Caret Browsing Popup
How do I get rid of the caret browing popup in iceape? I found nothing in prefernces or in help searching for caret. There is a box to check if you don't want to see the popup again but, checked or not, the popup keeps coming back. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
java
I just want to install a Java runtime environment which will allow me to see Java applets in action. It seems I have the choice of (at least) default-jre gcj-4.4-jre gcj-jre icedtea-6-jre-cacao openoffice.org (includes its own jre, apparently) openjdk-6-jre (required by Azureus/Vuze; it does not seem to accept other Javas) sun-java5-jre sun-java6-jre Today I did another attempt: rigorously dpkg --purge'd any trace of any other jre than openjdk-6-jre. It does not have a mozilla plugin, but "suggests" installing icedtea6-plugin and sun-java6-fonts. But then sun-java6-fonts wants to install sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre, and "suggests" sun-java6-plugin and ia32-sun-java6-plugin. And the icedtea6-plugin does not work... This is dependency hell. Does anybody know of a decent tutorial for setting up jre, any jre, on Debian? With only one boundary condition: it should work. I haven't been able to see applets working for about half a year now. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Testing update broke gnome/metacity and network-manager
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Matteo Riva wrote: > > Regarding network-manager, after some investigation I found out that > network-manager-gnome was removed because it is now marked as conflicting > with gnome-network-admin. However, I can't seem to remove > gnome-network-admin as gnome core packages depend on it. I'm not sure > how necessary the gnome frontend to n-m was to my setup as I still > didn't figure how to manually connect my wireless. Once n-w-gnome was removed, network-manager itself became "unnecessary". You can probably reinstall network-manager, but you won't have the gnome piece to manage it. You'll probably still automatically connect to your wireless network, though. I had the same issue yesterday, but caught it, and put gnome-system-tools and gnome-network admin on hold, and kept n-m-gnome, etc. Although I usually use Update Manager, whenever it tells me it needs to do a "Smart Upgrade", I close it and proceed with aptitude, because sometimes the "smart" upgrade isn't so smart, and aptitude always tells me exactly what's going on. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Testing update broke gnome/metacity and network-manager
Regarding network-manager, after some investigation I found out that network-manager-gnome was removed because it is now marked as conflicting with gnome-network-admin. However, I can't seem to remove gnome-network-admin as gnome core packages depend on it. I'm not sure how necessary the gnome frontend to n-m was to my setup as I still didn't figure how to manually connect my wireless. Any help on this very appreciated, thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: SATA CD- drive not picked up by system
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:29:16PM +0100, AG wrote: > Although I have tried addressing this previously, no-one has yet > ventured to offer any suggested courses for action. Following a weekend > of searches, editing config files, etc., I decided a fresh uncomplicated > installation of Squeeze would be a good way to start. There are transitions happening, and so "testing" is not a good platform to troubleshoot system problems. > Loading the Netinst CD which was correctly booted and installed from, I The "Netinst CD" has only the bare minimum. Maybe try with the first CD instead. > Any help would be appreciated. Try with the Lenny CD (not the Netinst CD) and start from there. -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
hotkeys not working for 'Hello'
Using sid and kde4.2.4 Ctrl+Alt+H does not work, should be 'Hello' Settingx -> input actions Examples and Type 'Hello' activated Ctrl and Alt keys working, for example the 'Run Konsole' hotkeys is ok One interesting thing is that in the System settings window the 'tab' 'Action' at the right is empty... How should I be able to change from Hello' to something else? I have also tried to create new shortcuts but that does not work either. Though a small action winnow appears... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Testing update broke gnome/metacity and network-manager
I just did an automatic update for new packages and I came out of it with 2 problems: * network manager stopped working, it gave an error at the end of the install process then no more icon in the panel and automatic wireless detection/connection * gnome panel now does not make the desktop and windows aware of it (or most likely metacity does not properly interact with it): the panels overlap with icons and maximized windows take full screen ending up under the panels Any help please? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: gnu/screen + mutt - mailcap creates a new terminal instance
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 03:53:58AM EDT, Bob Proulx wrote: > Chris Jones wrote: [..] > > Now on "lenny" although as far as I know I am using the same .muttrc and > > the same /etc/mailcap that I copied over from the "etch" system, what > > happens is that urlview creates a new xterm where it then launches an > > ELinks session. > > > > Would anyone know what particular setting would cause this behavior? [..] > To debug this run: > > bash -x /etc/urlview/url_handler.sh http://www.debian.org/ > 2>/tmp/url_handler.out [..] Exactly what I needed..! I compared the url_handler.sh that I had on the "etch" system with the "lenny" version and immediately spotted the following: # lists of programs to be executed - modified CJ 2007/08/10.. trying to # get elinks to be invoked. http_prgs="/usr/bin/elinks:VT /usr/bin/x-www-browser:PW ... https_prgs="/usr/bin/elinks:VT /usr/bin/x-www-browser:PW ... etc. I had prepended "/user/bin/elinks:VT" to the defaults for these two variables. So basically, this never worked out of the box with the default mailcap + debian alternatives.. etc. on the "etch" system either, and since I couldn't spare the time (then as now) to figure out what the problem really was and how to fix it cleanly, I took some drastic measures to get things to work. Nothing wrong with that since this is an area where I certainly do not need any kind of flexibility. What was not quite right with my approach was that "brutally" editing the code rather than look at some means of keeping track of this "customization" - via a patch or debian equivalent - was bound to get me bit sooner of later.. :-) I copied over my doctored version of the urlview script and everything now works as desired. I guess this time I will document it in my "etch → lenny" upgrade notes and leave it at that. Thanks, CJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny does not recognise blank CD; Etch does.
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 21:35 +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:35 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 20:21 +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: > > > I have a machine with a dvd writer (/dev/hdc) and a cd writer > > > (/dev/hdd). > > > > > under Lenny, the CD writer will not recognise a blank CD. Nothing. The > > > DVD writer will recognise one. > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Humm... you might want to check how HAL detects that devices. There are > > some GUIs, but you can send a report with: > > > > hal-find-by-capability --capability storage.cdrom | xargs hal-device > > > > I suppose it's important to have a line with "storage.cdrom.cdrw = > > true", then we can check "storage.removable.media_available" ... > > > > Franklin > > > Thanks for the ideas Franklin. > This looks like it might open a can of worms ... Actually, nautilus-cd-burner's README.Debian states: "This code detects available CD writers by examining files in /proc. It will try /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info which is created by the 'cdrom' module, and /proc/scsi/sg/devices which is created by the 'sg' module. One of these modules must be loaded for nautilus-cd-burner to work." So, check if the appropriate modules are loaded, then have a look on the kernel side (which Kernel do you use? can you test 2.6.26 or 2.6.30) Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Scribus versions-CROSSPOSTED
On Fri,19.Jun.09, 19:01:04, John Culleton wrote: > Mandriva etc. lists please pass the word. And please make the powers > that be know in the debian and debian-derivative world that Scribus > 1.3.5 is not for binary download. It is updated nightly for the svn > users and definitely not ready for prime time. Never will be with > that number. If you want to reach the maintainer of (and all other people interested in) a particular package you can write to @packages.debian.org Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Icons disappear from toolbar in KDE applications (k3b, amarok, soundkonverter, …) running on Xfce
On Fri,19.Jun.09, 21:13:17, Paulo Marcel Coelho Aragao wrote: > > It sounds to me like it might something as simple as you may have > > removed the images used for those little icons. > > You really lifted my hopes, but … To be sure I didn't miss anything, I > installed metapackage kdeartwork which should pull in everything artwork > related. But … The problem persists. Just to make sure, I restarted X, > but no joy. You're right, it must be something simple, but not this > simple. > > Anyway thanks for the shot. It made sense. Fingers crossed that other > pointers pop up. What icon themes do you have installed? The xfce4-icon-theme is known to be incomplete: $ dpkg -l *icon* | grep ^ii ii gnome-icon-theme 2.26.0-1GNOME Desktop icon theme ii hicolor-icon-theme 0.10-2 default fallback theme for FreeDesktop.org i ii kde-icons-oxygen 4:4.2.4-1 Oxygen icon theme for KDE 4 ii libtext-iconv-perl 1.7-1+b1converts between character sets in Perl ii tango-icon-theme 0.8.90-2Tango icon theme Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Lenny does not recognise blank CD; Etch does.
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:35 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 20:21 +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: > > I have a machine with a dvd writer (/dev/hdc) and a cd writer > > (/dev/hdd). > > > under Lenny, the CD writer will not recognise a blank CD. Nothing. The > > DVD writer will recognise one. > > > Any ideas? > > Humm... you might want to check how HAL detects that devices. There are > some GUIs, but you can send a report with: > > hal-find-by-capability --capability storage.cdrom | xargs hal-device > > I suppose it's important to have a line with "storage.cdrom.cdrw = > true", then we can check "storage.removable.media_available" ... > > Franklin > Thanks for the ideas Franklin. This looks like it might open a can of worms ... First Etch: hal-find-by-capability finds the DVD-RW drive but does not find the Plextor CD-RW drive (yet Etch works the CD-RW OK!). Second Lenny: hal-find-by-capability finds the Plextor CD-RW, but not the DVD-RW! With no blank media in the CD-RW, it reports " storage.removable.media_available = false (bool)" With blank media present, it reports " storage.removable.media_available = true (bool)" Exactly what we would hope for I think. But GNOME seems not to recognise this. I have just written a CD image under Lenny using wodim. What now? Bruce -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: lp/lpr can't print from cups client
I'm not getting any logs from the local cups-client, but the remote server is logging the following when I attempt to print (see previous post): 192.168.101.103 - - [21/Jun/2009:02:20:49 -0700] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 400 0 - - 192.168.101.103 - - [21/Jun/2009:02:20:49 -0700] "POST /printers/hpoj HTTP/1.1" 400 0 - - So the server is definitely receiving the communication, and rejecting it as malformed somehow. That's pretty non-specific, though, and unless it's a configuration issue then it's definitely a bug that needs to be filed against the version of cups in stable. Any ideas about where to go from this point? -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: lp/lpr can't print from cups client
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 05:48:15PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > What kind of upgrades? (In other words: Please tell us which version > of Debian you are running and how up-to-date it is.) Last time I checked was before the upgrade to Lenny. The utilities are provided by: cups-client: /usr/bin/lp cups-bsd: /usr/bin/lpq cups-bsd: /usr/bin/lpr and I have the following packages installed: cups-client/stable uptodate 1.3.8-1+lenny6 cups-bsd/stable uptodate 1.3.8-1+lenny6 None of which really addresses the question of what the error message means. If I can see the printer in cups, why won't it print? Isn't there some way to get debugging information out of cups? $ echo foo | pr | /usr/bin/lp /usr/bin/lp: Error - scheduler not responding! $ echo foo | pr | /usr/bin/lp -d hpoj /usr/bin/lp: Bad Request The only other thing I can think of is that the cups server on the remote side is running testing/unstable. Is there a potential mismatch there, and how would I debug THAT? -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: DNS lookup problems after upgrade from Etch to Lenny
Stackpole, Chris wrote:
> Well I can't seem to find and fix this problem. So I guess my two
> options are: 1) rebuild the system using Lenny 2) Install a DNS
> caching utility.
I would be inclined to try tracing with tcpdump and wireshark and
trying to determine what names are being looked up. I would hope that
a clue would be present in the names that are being looked up.
> Right now I am trying number 2. I installed dbndns and tied to
> configure it using this [1] talk as a guide, but I think I goofed
> something up. It isn't working.
>
> Can anyone help out in configuring this?
Does the machine have access to the global internet? Or is it behind
an air-gap firewall? If it has assess to the internet then simply
installing bind9 might be easiest. The default installation is a
caching nameserver suitable for a standalone machine on the internet.
apt-get install bind9
In which case you wouldn't need to configure anything at all. Stop
there. You are done.
And even if it does not have internet access, is behind a restrictive
air-gap firwall and must go to an internal nameserver, this is easy to
configure.
Edit /etc/bind/named.conf.options and add a line, with the IP address
of your internal nameserver:
forwarders { 192.168.1.42; 192.168.1.54; };
Delete the section in /etc/bind/named.conf that sets up the top level
nameservers. This is actually optional.
zone "." {
type hint;
file "/etc/bind/db.root";
};
Good luck!
Bob
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Re: gnu/screen + mutt - mailcap creates a new terminal instance
Chris Jones wrote: > Since obviously I run mutt in a terminal, a gnu/screen window actually, > urlview would correctly launch the ELinks browser in the same terminal. > > Now on "lenny" although as far as I know I am using the same .muttrc and > the same /etc/mailcap that I copied over from the "etch" system, what > happens is that urlview creates a new xterm where it then launches an > ELinks session. > > Would anyone know what particular setting would cause this behavior? At a guess? Install 'debianutils' and see if that works. sudo apt-get install debianutils To debug this run: bash -x /etc/urlview/url_handler.sh http://www.debian.org/ 2>/tmp/url_handler.out Then look at the shell trace. The script starts out looking for /usr/bin/sensible-browser and if found launches it in the same window. But if not found it will try to launch other browsers in a terminal (started with x-terminal-emulator) if possible. This might not be the problem but if you don't have debianutils installed then /usr/bin/sensible-browser won't be found and it will fall back. In any case looking at the debug of that script should tell the story of what it is doing. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: DEBIAN REPOSITORIES FOR UBUNTU DAPPER ?
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 9:39 AM, sai ram wrote: > Dear Friends! > I use Ubuntu Dapper Drake (on x86 pc) and wanted to install "isomaster" > software package about which I read in a linux magazine. As this package was > unavailable in my synaptic package manager with Ubuntu repositories, I > downloaded the package from Debian website. It is available in ubuntu since hardy in universe repo. > While attempting the installation, I encountered dependency errors. I > believe these errors can be overcome by adding appropriate Debian > repositories to the etc/apt/sources.list file of my Ubuntu OS. Don't mix debian with ubuntu please ... (I recomend you switching (reinstalling) to debian :-) ) > > Please > > (1) clarify if I can have both Ubuntu repositories and debian repositories > enabled at the same time ? This is a not good idea, better add universe repository, and upgrade to hardy ... (perhaps one release to next release thought hardy ...) > (2) Do I need any key to access the Debian repositories ? All deb should be signed and you need trust in the keys > (3) give me the exact debian package source location lines, that I need to > add to my etc/sources.list file, so I can henceforth install packages from > Debian repositories without any dependency errors. I guess you can't do it, perhaps if you add hardy repositories (the trhee) and try to install only isomaster it could work -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: DEBIAN REPOSITORIES FOR UBUNTU DAPPER ?
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 07:39:14AM -, sai ram wrote: > Dear Friends! > I use Ubuntu Dapper Drake (on x86 pc) and wanted to install "isomaster" > software package about which I read in a linux magazine. As this package was > unavailable in my synaptic package manager with Ubuntu repositories, I > downloaded the package from Debian website. > While attempting the installation, I encountered dependency errors. I believe > these errors can be overcome by adding appropriate Debian repositories to the > etc/apt/sources.list file of my Ubuntu OS. [snip] > 1) install debian - then if you have any problems as the debian-users list 2) maybe ask the ubuntu mailing list ! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
DEBIAN REPOSITORIES FOR UBUNTU DAPPER ?
Dear Friends! I use Ubuntu Dapper Drake (on x86 pc) and wanted to install "isomaster" software package about which I read in a linux magazine. As this package was unavailable in my synaptic package manager with Ubuntu repositories, I downloaded the package from Debian website. While attempting the installation, I encountered dependency errors. I believe these errors can be overcome by adding appropriate Debian repositories to the etc/apt/sources.list file of my Ubuntu OS. Please (1) clarify if I can have both Ubuntu repositories and debian repositories enabled at the same time ? (2) Do I need any key to access the Debian repositories ? (3) give me the exact debian package source location lines, that I need to add to my etc/sources.list file, so I can henceforth install packages from Debian repositories without any dependency errors. Following are the contents of my present /etc/apt/sources.list file (if it may be of any use in suggesting a solution to my problem): - deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531.2)]/ dapper main restricted deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe ## ## ## How to install Automatix on Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu ## gksudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list ## Uncomment the following lines deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main ## If you use Ubuntu or Xubuntu Dapper, add the following line to the end of the file. # deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt dapper main ## If you use Kubuntu, add the following line to the end of the file. # deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt kubuntu main #AUTOMATIX REPOS START deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse #AUTOMATIX REPOS END --- thanks, sairam
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Dear Friends! I use Ubuntu Dapper Drake (on x86 pc) and wanted to install "isomaster" software package about which I read in a linux magazine. As this package was unavailable in my synaptic package manager with Ubuntu repositories, I downloaded the package from Debian website. While attempting the installation, I encountered dependency errors. I believe these errors can be overcome by adding appropriate Debian repositories to the etc/apt/sources.list file of my Ubuntu OS. Please (1) clarify if I can have both Ubuntu repositories and debian repositories enabled at the same time ? (2) Do I need any key to access the Debian repositories ? (3) give me the exact debian package source location lines, that I need to add to my etc/sources.list file, so I can henceforth install packages from Debian repositories without any dependency errors. Following are the contents of my present /etc/apt/sources.list file (if it may be of any use in suggesting a solution to my problem): - deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531.2)]/ dapper main restricted deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe ## ## ## How to install Automatix on Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu ## gksudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list ## Uncomment the following lines deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main ## If you use Ubuntu or Xubuntu Dapper, add the following line to the end of the file. # deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt dapper main ## If you use Kubuntu, add the following line to the end of the file. # deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt kubuntu main #AUTOMATIX REPOS START deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse #AUTOMATIX REPOS END --- thanks, sairam
