Re: Nautilus messed up in testing
Frank Lin PIAT skrev: Personally, I set this in /root/.aptitude/config : aptitude::UI::Package-Display-Format "%c%a%M%S %p %Z %v %V %t"; so the distribution name appears next to the package version. Thanks a lot! I have been interested in having this for some time, and that line does exactly what I wanted, / johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Nautilus messed up in testing
Hi, Nautilus crashing when clicking in preferences is a know bug. Meantime, as workaround, one can set preferences using gconf-editor, in apps->nautilus. Regards, 2009/11/21 Johan Grönqvist > Frank Lin PIAT skrev: > > Personally, I set this in /root/.aptitude/config : >> aptitude::UI::Package-Display-Format "%c%a%M%S %p %Z %v %V %t"; >> so the distribution name appears next to the package version. >> >> > Thanks a lot! > > I have been interested in having this for some time, and that line does > exactly what I wanted, > > / johan > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > > -- Márcio H. Parreiras GNU/Linux Professional Pedro Leopoldo - MG - Brazil "A caixa dizia: Requer MS Windows ou superior, então eu instalei Debian/GNU Linux!" http://www.debian.org/index.pt.html "The box said: Requires MS Windows or better, then I installed Debian/GNU Linux!" http://www.debian.org/index.en.html Por favor evite enviar-me anexos MS Excel (.xls, .xlsx), MS PowerPoint (.ppt, .pptx) ou MS Word (.doc, .docx) Veja http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.pt-br.html Experimente http://www.broffice.org (ABNT NBR ISO/IEC 26300:2006) Please avoid sending me MS Excel (.xls, .xlsx), MS PowerPoint (.ppt, .pptx) or MS Word (.doc, .docx) attachments See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Try http://www.openoffice.org (ABNT NBR ISO/IEC 26300:2006) Filosofia M$: Se podemos complicar, porque simplificar? M$ philosophy: If we can complicate, why simplify? Codificação de caracteres / Character encoding: Unicode (UTF-8) .
printing confusion
I am using Lenny, up2date. I use CUPS for printing, and everything prints just fine for MOST applications. I just tried to print a web page, and I think it was a flash type page. It brought up a very small window that ( I thought) had the correct gutenprint printer, and I said OK. nothing printed. lpstat -t shows: # lpstat -t scheduler is running system default destination: Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 device for Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R380 Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 accepting requests since Sat 21 Nov 2009 06:09:54 AM EST printer Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 is idle. enabled since Sat 21 Nov 2009 06:09:54 AM EST but I see a /var/log/lpr.log that has this in it: # more lpr.log Nov 21 05:42:29 paulandcilla lpd[11629]: /dev/lp0: No such file or directory Nov 21 05:43:30 paulandcilla lpd[11702]: /dev/lp0: No such file or directory # then I saw an email from someone that mentioned lpq so I ran it and got this: # lpq -a lp: Warning: no daemon present Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stpbc0 ... 493086 bytes 2ndroot 1 ... 2161 bytes 3rdpbc2/tmp/ps9XOZ8T 40459 bytes 4thpbc3/tmp/psIpb51y 40456 bytes 5thpbc4/tmp/ps1TUs1D 40456 bytes 6thpbc5(standard input) 6092040 bytes 7thpbc6(standard input) 6092040 bytes what does this mean, and what do I do to fix it? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can't tweak anything about synaptics touchpad
I don't understand, yesterday I managed to switch it on and off by inserting and removing the `psmouse` module via modprobe, today it just doesn't get back on -- I haven't change anything else in my configuration. Also about the quoted changelog, I wasn't using `synclient` with the `-s` switch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Calendar/ reminder wanted - recommendations
On Saturday 21 November 2009 04:54:11 S. Fishpaste wrote: > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:27:35 +, AG in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: > > I used to use korganizer, but for whatever reason it no longer minimises > > to my notification area in Gnome, and when it does I cannot click it to > > open it to add new reminders. > > > > I want to have a reminder that can run in the background when I don't > > need it and minimises to the notification area (system tray?) in Gnome > > (the area near the clock on a default lay out), and when an appointment > > is due it pops up with a reminder. There are any number of calendars, > > etc., but I haven't been able to find something that I am looking for > > (such as something similar to korganizer). > > > > Can anyone make a recommendation please? I am running Testing. > > Evolution is the best I've found so far. Bonus if you're using Google > Calendar, as it interfaces nicely with it. One doesn't need to have > Evolution running in order to be reminded of tasks/appts. +1 Although I use KDE, I much prefer Evolution's calendar to KOrganizer. I install Evolution expressly to be able to use the calendar function, even tho' it is the only bit of it that I use. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Iceweasel: fonts became bigger
After a recent update I found that fonts displayed in the page got a little bigger. It applies to fonts which have a style defined, the default size is ok. For example, in order to have the same visible size as before, a font with 10pt size has to be reduced to 9pt. It's not a single user problem, I tried creating a new user and it has the same problem. Font-size looks fine in google chrome. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
BIND 9 messages
Hi, I'm running Lenny with Bind 9 on my server; all working fine, except that whenever I connect a new client, I get the syslog message: tony-lx named[4179]: client 192.168.1.12#56479: updating zone 'magpieway.net/IN': update unsuccessful: TONY-XP.magpieway.net/CNAME: 'rrset does not exist' prerequisite not satisfied (YXRRSET) I've unsuccessfully man'd and googled, as well as read the bind 9 documentation, so I guess I've missed something. Can anyone please tell me what this means, and how to fix it? Cheers, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Calendar/ reminder wanted - recommendations
Lisi wrote: On Saturday 21 November 2009 04:54:11 S. Fishpaste wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:27:35 +, AG in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: I used to use korganizer, but for whatever reason it no longer minimises to my notification area in Gnome, and when it does I cannot click it to open it to add new reminders. I want to have a reminder that can run in the background when I don't need it and minimises to the notification area (system tray?) in Gnome (the area near the clock on a default lay out), and when an appointment is due it pops up with a reminder. There are any number of calendars, etc., but I haven't been able to find something that I am looking for (such as something similar to korganizer). Can anyone make a recommendation please? I am running Testing. Evolution is the best I've found so far. Bonus if you're using Google Calendar, as it interfaces nicely with it. One doesn't need to have Evolution running in order to be reminded of tasks/appts. +1 Although I use KDE, I much prefer Evolution's calendar to KOrganizer. I install Evolution expressly to be able to use the calendar function, even tho' it is the only bit of it that I use. Lisi Hmmm ... plus all of the additional overhead of a MS Outlook clone. I reckon that I'll stick with Orage thanks.
Re: BIND 9 messages
> Hi, I'm running Lenny with Bind 9 on my server; all working fine, except > that whenever I connect a new client, I get the syslog message: > > tony-lx named[4179]: client 192.168.1.12#56479: updating zone > 'magpieway.net/IN': update unsuccessful: TONY-XP.magpieway.net/CNAME: 'rrset > does not exist' prerequisite not satisfied (YXRRSET) > > I've unsuccessfully man'd and googled, as well as read the bind 9 > documentation, so I guess I've missed something. Can anyone please tell me > what this means, and how to fix it? Your DNS server is letting you know that it is creating an entry for tony-xp because it already exists. This is a result of your dynamic dns and dhcp settings. I am only familiar with WinDHCP (all the companies where I have worked have run WinDHCP and it's been a few years since I last worked on one) but there may be some setting to scavenge stale entries in *nix. Anyway, it is an informational message and not a error one, so as long as "dig hostname" and "dig -x hostip" are returning the correct info, you could simply ignore it. (I find the "CNAME" reference puzzling but it must be part of your setup.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Printing problem, lenny, xfce, galeon, gnome, xprint
I'm having difficulty getting Galeon to print web pages. (I can print from Iceweasel and Emacs, so this can't be something grossly stupid like failure to start CUPS.) I am running Lenny with the 'alternative' windowing/desktop environment Xfce4, which was installed by using netinstall CD. Galeon complained that environment variable XPSERVERLIST contains no print servers, and it appeared in my simple investigation that this variable was undefined. I found a print-setup link in the xfce settings menu and set it to CUPS, and I have installed the package xprint, but still have a problem. Galeon still gives the same error message, but now there is an XPSERVERLIST variable and it contains the string ':64 ' This doesn't look like a print server selection to me, so I suppose I have some configuration to do, but where? (Remember printing is working for Iceweasel and Emacs, both running in the windowing/desktop environment.) I could try typing in may own definition of XPSERVERLIST, but I can't find documentation of the precise format of a server selection line. I think something should have been set up automagically by one of the packages that I have installed, but which one should be responsible? Many gnome packages were automatically installed when I installed Galeon, but I am not running Gnome and don't see a way to access the Gnome configuration system. (also I don't really want to run Gnome) Suggestions, please. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Synaptics touchpad not well configured
Hi, I installed xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, but found my synaptics touchpad is not well configured. I.e., the side-scrolling, middle-click and right- click etc, all not working properly. I tried Ubuntu 9.04, and everything works as expected. I'm wondering how Ubuntu does it, or, how I can have my synaptics touchpad works as expected under Debian. Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Is Squeeze right for me?
I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. How things work has never been of interest to me except when they don't work. Even then I just learn enough to fix the problem and go back to living. However, several Linux friends have suggested it's time for me to move on. According to the advice I receive I no longer need the Ubuntu training wheels and I would be better served by going to a less newbie-oriented distro. Perhaps they are right, but I grew up with Synaptic and .deb files, and I really don't want to leave the Debian world. Therefore, this morning I installed testing on a new hard disk, leaving my old Ubuntu hard disk untouched so I can always go back to it. Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity of bugs. Yes, I know it is called "testing" for a reason. And I am happy to do my part to help fix problems. Yet I need a computer that I can use for real work. But at the same time I want the latest and greatest. I need OOo 3.1 and Scribus 1.3.5.1 and the most recent versions of several other apps that I live in all day long. The stable versions of Debian are not sufficiently cutting edge for me. Or have I misunderstood that? The local Linux friends who thought I should move on from Ubuntu suggested testing as the closest in the Debian world to the Ubuntu way of doing things. After today I am thinking they were wrong. I need advice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:44 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked > inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. How things work has > never been of interest to me except when they don't work. Even then I > just learn enough to fix the problem and go back to living. > > However, several Linux friends have suggested it's time for me to move > on. According to the advice I receive I no longer need the Ubuntu > training wheels and I would be better served by going to a less > newbie-oriented distro. Perhaps they are right, but I grew up with > Synaptic and .deb files, and I really don't want to leave the Debian > world. Therefore, this morning I installed testing on a new hard disk, > leaving my old Ubuntu hard disk untouched so I can always go back to it. > > Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity of > bugs. Yes, I know it is called "testing" for a reason. And I am happy > to do my part to help fix problems. Yet I need a computer that I can > use for real work. But at the same time I want the latest and greatest. > I need OOo 3.1 and Scribus 1.3.5.1 and the most recent versions of > several other apps that I live in all day long. The stable versions of > Debian are not sufficiently cutting edge for me. Or have I > misunderstood that? > > The local Linux friends who thought I should move on from Ubuntu > suggested testing as the closest in the Debian world to the Ubuntu way > of doing things. After today I am thinking they were wrong. The following is my initial reaction and it may be something you've thought of. If so, I apologize. I'm not sure of the relationship between the ubuntu world and the debian world and I'm not sure what you mean when you spent a day in testing, but might I suggest that you dual boot ubuntu with debian (perhaps test all of the versions and maybe even other distros). There is software out there that can move your partitions around so that your ubuntu set-up isn't affected. God luck! -Neal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity of
bugs.
[...]
But at the same time I want the latest and greatest.
These 2 comments are a contradiction.
Make a decision between those two, and you will have made your decision
regarding whether to switch away from Ubuntu.
The local Linux friends who thought I should move on from Ubuntu
suggested testing as the closest in the Debian world to the Ubuntu way
of doing things. After today I am thinking they were wrong.
They were right only if YOU are willing to learn to deal with breakage
caused by "the latest and greatest" packages. If you don't want to do
that kind of work, then they were wrong.
I need advice.
Use Debian stable ("Lenny") and make yourself familiar with backports.org.
HTH,
Dave W.
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Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:54:18 -0500
Dave Witbrodt wrote:
> > Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity
> > of bugs.
> [...]
> > But at the same time I want the latest and greatest.
>
> These 2 comments are a contradiction.
>
> Make a decision between those two, and you will have made your
> decision regarding whether to switch away from Ubuntu.
>
>
> > The local Linux friends who thought I should move on from Ubuntu
> > suggested testing as the closest in the Debian world to the Ubuntu
> > way of doing things. After today I am thinking they were wrong.
>
> They were right only if YOU are willing to learn to deal with
> breakage caused by "the latest and greatest" packages. If you don't
> want to do that kind of work, then they were wrong.
>
>
> > I need advice.
>
> Use Debian stable ("Lenny") and make yourself familiar with
> backports.org.
>
That being said, be prepared to be disappointed with Lenny. I mean that
not in a bad way. While Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is nice and flashy, Lenny
is not (out of the box).
However, Lenny (to me) is solid as hell. But as Dave mentioned, there
are ways to get some of the more up to date apps etc.
In the end, you will need to be willing to tinker a bit ... and that,
is never a bad thing!
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Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On 21/11/2009 19:44, John Jason Jordan wrote: The local Linux friends who thought I should move on from Ubuntu suggested testing as the closest in the Debian world to the Ubuntu way of doing things. After today I am thinking they were wrong. I need advice. Hiya For anything else use Debian, or FreeBSD for that that matter :), but for Desktop use Ubuntu (or even the new Fedora / Mandriva). Im of the opinion, your friends are ill advising you. As I type this email, Im using Ubuntu Karmic on my Dell XPS, and I think its great. At my work Im run Debian Testing as my workstation, other than a few compiz issues when compiz segfaults, its ok. For servers, and and I manage quite a few, Lenny is great for servers... but old for Desktop. HTH Brent Clark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:05:40 Chris wrote: > While Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is *nice and flashy* To some of us, well one of me anyway, that is a contradiction in terms. Something cannot be both nice and flashy - it must be either or. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:41:18 + Lisi wrote: > On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:05:40 Chris wrote: > > While Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is *nice and flashy* > > To some of us, well one of me anyway, that is a contradiction in > terms. Something cannot be both nice and flashy - it must be either > or. ;-) > > Lisi > > > ... Redefined... Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is both nice (to use, as in ease) AND flashy (visually). Not a contradiction at all. Perhaps I should have taken the time to define that however, knowing the Op was using Ubu to begin with, I assumed the Op knew exactly what I meant and how it was meant. -- Best regards, Chris () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments "There's no place like 127.0.0.1" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: printing confusion
Paul Cartwright wrote: I am using Lenny, up2date. I use CUPS for printing, and everything prints just fine for MOST applications. I just tried to print a web page, and I think it was a flash type page. It brought up a very small window that ( I thought) had the correct gutenprint printer, and I said OK. nothing printed. lpstat -t shows: # lpstat -t scheduler is running system default destination: Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 device for Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R380 Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 accepting requests since Sat 21 Nov 2009 06:09:54 AM EST printer Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 is idle. enabled since Sat 21 Nov 2009 06:09:54 AM EST I had Gutenprint problems with my HP6 laser printer. changed to foomatic and it works now. YMMV but I see a /var/log/lpr.log that has this in it: # more lpr.log Nov 21 05:42:29 paulandcilla lpd[11629]: /dev/lp0: No such file or directory Nov 21 05:43:30 paulandcilla lpd[11702]: /dev/lp0: No such file or directory # then I saw an email from someone that mentioned lpq so I ran it and got this: # lpq -a lp: Warning: no daemon present Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stpbc0 ... 493086 bytes 2ndroot 1 ... 2161 bytes 3rdpbc2/tmp/ps9XOZ8T 40459 bytes 4thpbc3/tmp/psIpb51y 40456 bytes 5thpbc4/tmp/ps1TUs1D 40456 bytes 6thpbc5(standard input) 6092040 bytes 7thpbc6(standard input) 6092040 bytes what does this mean, and what do I do to fix it? I had to go into cups for each of my printer and look at the jobs. I deleated all pending jobs and lpq -a didn't find them anymore. HTH Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: printing confusion
Paul Cartwright wrote: I am using Lenny, up2date. I use CUPS for printing, and everything prints just fine for MOST applications. I just tried to print a web page, and I think it was a flash type page. It brought up a very small window that ( I thought) had the correct gutenprint printer, and I said OK. nothing printed. lpstat -t shows: # lpstat -t scheduler is running system default destination: Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 device for Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R380 Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 accepting requests since Sat 21 Nov 2009 06:09:54 AM EST printer Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 is idle. enabled since Sat 21 Nov 2009 06:09:54 AM EST but I see a /var/log/lpr.log that has this in it: # more lpr.log Nov 21 05:42:29 paulandcilla lpd[11629]: /dev/lp0: No such file or directory Nov 21 05:43:30 paulandcilla lpd[11702]: /dev/lp0: No such file or directory Sorry missed this in first read. Use the modify printer option of cups. The usb to parallel adapter I am using produced this Connection: usb://HP/LaserJet%206P you can't use the lpt option with usb. then I saw an email from someone that mentioned lpq so I ran it and got this: # lpq -a lp: Warning: no daemon present Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stpbc0 ... 493086 bytes 2ndroot 1 ... 2161 bytes 3rdpbc2/tmp/ps9XOZ8T 40459 bytes 4thpbc3/tmp/psIpb51y 40456 bytes 5thpbc4/tmp/ps1TUs1D 40456 bytes 6thpbc5(standard input) 6092040 bytes 7thpbc6(standard input) 6092040 bytes what does this mean, and what do I do to fix it? Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Network stalls
I'm experiencing a strange problem that I think my Debian server may be responsible for, but I've no idea how to troubleshoot it! For the last month or so, I've been experiencing stalls - all access to the internet stops for a minute or two. It happens frequently...but intermittently. I assumed it was due to my ISP being rubbish...but then I noticed that I couldn't access my DSL router's admin during these stalls either. Well, I decided to solve the mystery once and for all today, and I'm even more confused now! My setup is the rather conventional: LAN<=>Eth0 - Server - Eth1<=>Router<=>Internet The server is designated as the DMZ host on the router, and the server NATs everything going out. I found that when connected to the wireless router via wifi, internet access remained constant throughout the stalls (pinging a remote host). Pinging the same host from my server during the stalls was also fine. Pinging the server's eth1, the router, or the remote host from my workstation during a stall fails, but works otherwise. This leads me to suspect that something's amiss with the NAT process somehow. FWIW, both network cards on the server are gigabit, though the router only supports 100Mb. Driver-wise, eth0 is using e1000, and eth1 is using r8169. An alternative is that the problem lies with the routing between eth0 and eth1. On the off-chance, I've tried turning off auto-negotiation, I've tried updating the firmware on the router, and I've tried replacing the cables, all to no avail. I don't even know where to begin looking for info on what the problem is. Any ideas? - Jamie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On 20091121_094447, John Jason Jordan wrote: > I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked > inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. How things work has > never been of interest to me except when they don't work. Even then I > just learn enough to fix the problem and go back to living. > > However, several Linux friends have suggested it's time for me to move > on. According to the advice I receive I no longer need the Ubuntu > training wheels and I would be better served by going to a less > newbie-oriented distro. Perhaps they are right, but I grew up with > Synaptic and .deb files, and I really don't want to leave the Debian > world. Therefore, this morning I installed testing on a new hard disk, > leaving my old Ubuntu hard disk untouched so I can always go back to it. > > Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity of > bugs. Yes, I know it is called "testing" for a reason. And I am happy > to do my part to help fix problems. Yet I need a computer that I can > use for real work. But at the same time I want the latest and greatest. > I need OOo 3.1 and Scribus 1.3.5.1 and the most recent versions of > several other apps that I live in all day long. The stable versions of > Debian are not sufficiently cutting edge for me. Or have I > misunderstood that? > > The local Linux friends who thought I should move on from Ubuntu > suggested testing as the closest in the Debian world to the Ubuntu way > of doing things. After today I am thinking they were wrong. > > I need advice. A few questions for you to think about. The tone may seem confrontational but it's really up to you, so there is no need to answer them publically, just think about what your answers really are, and then act accordingly. Where was the Ubuntu disk when you installed Squeeze on the new disk? If you had left it in the computer, you should have had a opportunity to make your computer dual-boot trivially by simply answering yes to a question from the Debian installer. What kind of computer work is 'real work' for you? Can it be done on a dual boot set up? If you make your computer dual boot would you expect to have separate /home directories for the two components of the dual? Or would you require some sort of shared /home? How can you be sure you are seeing bugs in Squeeze? Maybe the defaults of Debian are just different from what you expect from what you learned to expect in Ubuntu. Why really do you want 'latest and greatest'? Or do you just think you need L&G because you use OO and Scribus and think that versions in Debian are 'too old' without having actually testing them for the features that you actually use? Are your friends tiring of giving you help on making Ubuntu do things that are not properly part of the Ubuntu User Experience? I only know Ubuntu from hearsay. You confirm my impression that it is targeted for newbies and/or casual users. I think you will have great difficulty becoming a adept 'power user' if you stick with Ubuntu. To become a power user of Ubuntu, first switch to Debian, become a power user, and then switch back to Ubuntu (if you wish). If you did not have the Ubuntu disk in your computer when you installed Squeeze, and want to make your system dual-boot, you probably don't need to do a re-install. Instead, re-install the physical HD that has Ubuntu on it. And ask for help on this list about re-configuring grub to see it and offer it as a boot option. I'm not a power user, I got started with Debian before Ubuntu existed and have never felt a need to change. Or even investigate any other distribution. You might be completely satisfied with Lenny. As a user I am very skeptical of L&G. But you have to test it for your actual work. And Lenny will soon be replaced by Squeeze so maybe wait for Squeeze to be released and revisit this issue then. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Synaptics touchpad spamming my kern.log
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Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:47:38 -0600 Chris dijo: > ... Redefined... Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is both nice (to use, as in ease) > AND flashy (visually). Not a contradiction at all. > > Perhaps I should have taken the time to define that however, knowing > the Op was using Ubu to begin with, I assumed the Op knew exactly what > I meant and how it was meant. First, thanks to all who responded. I should have given more detail, but it's hard to think of everything when writing an e-mail in a list like this. My failure to communicate required many to make assumptions about my needs. I started with Linux with a brand new laptop that I bought for school four years ago. I found a local user group who helped me get started. The computer had a 15.4 inch widescreen capable of 1680 x 1050, and I was adamant in getting that working with 64-bit Linux. At the time I tried Mandriva, Suse, and several others. No amount of tweaking could get the display to run better than 1024 x 768 Vesa. After several days of frustration I tried a Breezy live CD. The screen came up automatically at 1680 x 1050. That was it. Shuttleworth made another sale. Over the years I have often tried live CDs of other distros, but I always came back to Ubuntu. Two years ago I built myself a new desktop computer to use as a music server. I installed Debian on it and tried really hard to get things to work. Eventually I ended up putting Ubuntu on it. Today I have two main motivations for going to Debian: 1) It's time to expand my knowledge of Linux, and I have no huge computer projects underway at the moment. I can afford the time to fiddle around for a while. At the same time, my experience with other distros over the years leads me to reject any distro that is not Debian based. No package management system can hold a candle to Debian. I want my Synaptic. 2) I write and publish textbooks. In the past I used InDesign on Windows, but now I am in the Linux world. I recently did a new textbook and had to figure out what works best for me in Linux. I spent a week trying to get my head around Lyx-Latex-Tex, but finally gave up. I found my home in Scribus, which I love. But I want to use 1.3.5.1, which is close, but not yet stable. In discussing issues on the Scribus e-list it is clear that the Scribus developers mince few words in their dislike of Ubuntu. Scribus is based on Qt, and apparently the Ubuntu people messed around with some of the Qt libraries. They strongly recommend Fedora, Debian or OpenSuse. So there you have it. Debian is the common denominator for me. The only issue is whether I should have used stable instead of testing. At the time I wrote my original message I was feeling extreme frustration with the bugs in Nautilus on testing. But Márcio H. Parreiras just gave me a solution (thanks!) - gconf-editor allows me to change the configuration without needing to use the Preferences button. I feel much happier with testing now that I have Nautilus configured the way I want it. I still have some troublesome apps to install (realplayer, xaralx, foxit reader), but I had them working on Jaunty, so I'm sure I can do the same on testing. I don't mind that testing is probably not as stable as the current incarnation of Ubuntu. And I am very willing to do my share of bug reporting and participate as much as I can. I know nothing of programming, but there are lots of other ways to contribute. In four years of Ubuntu my "bean count" on the forums is over 1,000. At the moment I think testing is the right fit for me. But if not, well, it is installed on a brand new hard disk. My old hard disk with Jaunty is untouched; all I have to do is put it back in the computer to go back to Ubuntu. Or I can wipe out testing and install stable. Thanks again for the viewpoints. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Re: printing confusion
On Sat November 21 2009, Wayne wrote: > > Nov 21 05:42:29 paulandcilla lpd[11629]: /dev/lp0: No such file or > > directory Nov 21 05:43:30 paulandcilla lpd[11702]: /dev/lp0: No such file > > or directory > > Sorry missed this in first read. > > Use the modify printer option of cups. The usb to parallel adapter I > am using produced this > Connection: usb://HP/LaserJet%206P > you can't use the lpt option with usb. when I pull up the web CUPS admin for my printer, it shows this: Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 (Default Printer) Description: EPSON USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed) Location: Local Printer Printer Driver: Epson Stylus Photo R380 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.0.2 Printer State: idle, accepting jobs, published. Device URI: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R380 -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
John Jason Jordan wrote: I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. How things work has never been of interest to me except when they don't work. Even then I just learn enough to fix the problem and go back to living. Nothing wrong with that. Some like to tinker, some like to build from scratch, some just like to use a computer as a tool in the course of their living or have to in the work place. However, several Linux friends have suggested it's time for me to move on. If Ubuntu works for you, then it doesn't really matter what distro you use. Unless you are after "geek points" ? Being "cool" is not about the computer OS you use - it comes from the kind of person you *are*. According to the advice I receive I no longer need the Ubuntu training wheels and I would be better served by going to a less newbie-oriented distro. Perhaps they are right, but I grew up with Synaptic and .deb files, and I really don't want to leave the Debian world. Therefore, this morning I installed testing on a new hard disk, leaving my old Ubuntu hard disk untouched so I can always go back to it. I assume you physically removed the Ubuntu HD from the machine and that the new HD you used to install Deb on is in good working order? Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity of bugs. No offence, but are these "bugs" in the sense of problems with the software or might there be some PEBKAC going on? Yes, I know it is called "testing" for a reason. And I am happy to do my part to help fix problems. Yet I need a computer that I can use for real work. But at the same time I want the latest and greatest. Latest & greatest aren't really the best for work conditions - at least if it is work that has some value for you (e.g. a source of income, etc.). Latest & greatest software can & does break regularly, can have any number of vulnerabilities and might be exploitable. Latest & greatest software obviously has its place, but running latest & greatest on a production system is *not* good computing practice. The decision you probably should be considering is your breakage tolerance, the reliability of your back-up routine, your security know-how, and how much time you have available to restore and repair breakages. You would be better off with having software that has been thoroughly break and security tested, which is "stable" (or Lenny) in Debian world. Latest & greatest are in sid or "experimental". But there are times when those can have high overheads, and it is assumed that you know how to maintain your own system when running something like that. Despite what modern advertising might tell you, patience really is still a virtue. The decision you should be looking to make at this point in time is what your *need* is and what your *want* is and decide where your values lie. Novelty does not necessarily mean better. I need OOo 3.1 I run testing/ "Squeeze" and have OOo3.1.1 and Scribus 1.3.5.1 On http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=scribus&searchon=names&suite=testing§ion=all you'll see that Scribus is 1.3.3.13dfsg~svn20081228-2 How critical is the difference? Was there a new feature in 1.3.5.1 that you *need* or is this simply a mad pursuit for novelty to keep up with friends? and the most recent versions of several other apps that I live in all day long. Ditto the above? The stable versions of Debian are not sufficiently cutting edge for me. Or have I misunderstood that? "Cutting edge"? The question that you might want to consider asking is less about "cutting edge" and more about whether the system is stable and reliable, responsive given your hardware array, does it satisfy your user-based needs? Stable is definitely "tried and tested" and nothing except for the occasional security patches will be added to the code base for Lenny. As a consequence, it is software that will work reliably and as expected. If you want higher degrees of churn, which will require you to spend a lot more time "under the hood", then try sid or to be "uber cool" out-fox your buddies and give sidux a run for its money. Nice and speedy distro, with all of the latest gizmos, but is likely to require increased maintenance overhead from yourself. It's all a question of how much you are prepared to give of your time and how much you want to take without any effort on your part. The local Linux friends who thought I should move on from Ubuntu suggested testing as the closest in the Debian world to the Ubuntu way of doing things. After today I am thinking they were wrong. They might be right or wrong, depending on how you answered the questions I raised above and those asked of you by others responding to your query. Again, let me re-emphasise that using a computer is something that you yourself do. When you are by yourself with your computer it is pointless trying to ke
Re: printing confusion
Paul Cartwright wrote: On Sat November 21 2009, Wayne wrote: Nov 21 05:42:29 paulandcilla lpd[11629]: /dev/lp0: No such file or directory Nov 21 05:43:30 paulandcilla lpd[11702]: /dev/lp0: No such file or directory Sorry missed this in first read. Use the modify printer option of cups. The usb to parallel adapter I am using produced this Connection: usb://HP/LaserJet%206P you can't use the lpt option with usb. when I pull up the web CUPS admin for my printer, it shows this: Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 (Default Printer) Description: EPSON USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed) Location: Local Printer Printer Driver: Epson Stylus Photo R380 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.0.2 Printer State: idle, accepting jobs, published. Device URI: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R380 I am running cups version 1.4.1-4 in squeeze. Lenny has a different version of cups so. Go to the Jobs tab in cups. You should be able to find of the jobs shown when you did the lpq -a. Delete them. Re-reading your OP, I am now confused as to what you want. You are using usb but the lpq -a showed you had files in the cups spooler under a printer using the lp interface. Did you change printers or how you connect to them? I don't recall having any problems printing from firefox/iceweasel using lenny but I only use it occasionally to get security upgrades. Sorry if this doesn't help. As no one else has responded you might give google a shot. Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 09:44 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked > inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. How things work has > never been of interest to me except when they don't work. Even then I > just learn enough to fix the problem and go back to living. A reasonable approach to computers. > However, several Linux friends have suggested it's time for me to move > on. According to the advice I receive I no longer need the Ubuntu > training wheels and I would be better served by going to a less > newbie-oriented distro. If you are okay with Ubuntu, why would they suggest this? > Perhaps they are right, but I grew up with > Synaptic and .deb files, and I really don't want to leave the Debian > world. Therefore, this morning I installed testing on a new hard disk, > leaving my old Ubuntu hard disk untouched so I can always go back to it. Good call with the hard drive. > Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity of > bugs. Yes, I know it is called "testing" for a reason. Yep, there can be bugs... > Yet I need a computer that I can > use for real work. But at the same time I want the latest and greatest. > I need OOo 3.1 and Scribus 1.3.5.1 and the most recent versions of > several other apps that I live in all day long. The stable versions of > Debian are not sufficiently cutting edge for me. Or have I > misunderstood that? Nah, you got that. Debian stable is not cutting edge. > > The local Linux friends who thought I should move on from Ubuntu > suggested testing as the closest in the Debian world to the Ubuntu way > of doing things. After today I am thinking they were wrong. > > I need advice. I'd say stay with Ubuntu if you are comfy with it. The latest and greatest of some/most apps (openoffice, thunderbird, firefox, etc.) can be installed using debs (or "what-evers") from the relevant application's website. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:47:38 Chris wrote: > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:41:18 + > > Lisi wrote: > > On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:05:40 Chris wrote: > > > While Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is *nice and flashy* > > > > To some of us, well one of me anyway, that is a contradiction in > > terms. Something cannot be both nice and flashy - it must be either > > or. ;-) > > > > Lisi > > ... Redefined... Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is both nice (to use, as in ease) > AND flashy (visually). Not a contradiction at all. > > Perhaps I should have taken the time to define that however, knowing > the Op was using Ubu to begin with, I assumed the Op knew exactly what > I meant and how it was meant. That was exactly what I took you to mean. I just don't agree with you. For me it is a contradiction in terms. And I did make it clear a) that I realise that I may be in a small minority in that and b) that I was not entirely serious. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:47:38 -0600 Chris dijo: ... Redefined... Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is both nice (to use, as in ease) AND flashy (visually). Not a contradiction at all. Perhaps I should have taken the time to define that however, knowing the Op was using Ubu to begin with, I assumed the Op knew exactly what I meant and how it was meant. First, thanks to all who responded. I should have given more detail, but it's hard to think of everything when writing an e-mail in a list like this. My failure to communicate required many to make assumptions about my needs. I started with Linux with a brand new laptop that I bought for school four years ago. I found a local user group who helped me get started. The computer had a 15.4 inch widescreen capable of 1680 x 1050, and I was adamant in getting that working with 64-bit Linux. At the time I tried Mandriva, Suse, and several others. No amount of tweaking could get the display to run better than 1024 x 768 Vesa. After several days of frustration I tried a Breezy live CD. The screen came up automatically at 1680 x 1050. That was it. Shuttleworth made another sale. Over the years I have often tried live CDs of other distros, but I always came back to Ubuntu. Two years ago I built myself a new desktop computer to use as a music server. I installed Debian on it and tried really hard to get things to work. Eventually I ended up putting Ubuntu on it. I find it worth keeping a fairly recent Knoppix around. It's not a distro to install: while it can be installed on a hard drive, it is unmaintainable, you need to wipe and install the next version to stay up to date. But for finding out how to drive hardware which other distros don't handle well, it's hard to beat. If you do have hardware problems after an upgrade, it's useful to have a different distribution to run on the same hardware to pick up clues to the trouble. Today I have two main motivations for going to Debian: 1) It's time to expand my knowledge of Linux, and I have no huge computer projects underway at the moment. I can afford the time to fiddle around for a while. At the same time, my experience with other distros over the years leads me to reject any distro that is not Debian based. No package management system can hold a candle to Debian. I want my Synaptic. I'd agree with that, though I use aptitude most of the time. But I find Synaptic much easier to deal with than aptitude when it comes to searching and looking up dependencies, file names and locations etc. It's also worthwhile knowing a bit about apt-get itself, and the underlying dpkg. Very, very occasionally, you can get into a state when even apt-get will not fix an upgrade problem, and you need to use dpkg and some judicious manual file deletions to beat the system into submission. 2) I write and publish textbooks. In the past I used InDesign on Windows, but now I am in the Linux world. I recently did a new textbook and had to figure out what works best for me in Linux. I spent a week trying to get my head around Lyx-Latex-Tex, but finally gave up. I found my home in Scribus, which I love. But I want to use 1.3.5.1, which is close, but not yet stable. In discussing issues on the Scribus e-list it is clear that the Scribus developers mince few words in their dislike of Ubuntu. Scribus is based on Qt, and apparently the Ubuntu people messed around with some of the Qt libraries. They strongly recommend Fedora, Debian or OpenSuse. I can't comment on this specific issue, but Linux handles different versions of the 'same' libraries fairly well, so you might consider compiling the latest version of an application into a distribution whose own libraries don't support it. It's a bit of a nuisance, as you can't rely on Synaptic to maintain it, but it's a useful Linux skill to acquire. You will sometimes find it difficult to get hold of something in Debian for ideological reasons (e.g. freeradius with SSL) and will either have to use a third party package or compile it yourself. So there you have it. Debian is the common denominator for me. The only issue is whether I should have used stable instead of testing. Not stable. I run stable on my server, and they're not kidding. Much more solid than the average rock. But there are only security upgrades. While server software doesn't change quickly, desktop software is much less mature, and may always be. At the time I wrote my original message I was feeling extreme frustration with the bugs in Nautilus on testing. But Márcio H. Parreiras just gave me a solution (thanks!) - gconf-editor allows me to change the configuration without needing to use the Preferences button. I feel much happier with testing now that I have Nautilus configured the way I want it. I still have some troublesome apps to install (realplayer, xaralx, foxit reader), but I had them working on Jaunty, so I'm sure I can do the same on testing. I don't mind that test
Is Squeeze right for me?
John Jason Jordan put forth on 11/21/2009 11:44 AM: > I need advice. If you have never used a bash shell or are not comfortable with it, or are not comfortable with vi/vim and editing Linux config files with such, then I suggest you stay far, far away from any Debian testing/unstable release. Things will break and you'll be required to work from the CLI (command line interface, i.e. bash and vi) to fix them. For instance, if X (GUI desktop) breaks, and you can't get to Icedove to email a bug report or get help from this list, or log onto a web help forum through Iceweasel, what then can/will you do? If you don't have another PC available to do such things, then you're completely dead in the water with your hosed "cutting edge" system, and will have to stick that old Ubuntu hard disk back in to allow communication with the outside world. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:00:50 + Lisi wrote: > On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:47:38 Chris wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:41:18 + > > > > Lisi wrote: > > > On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:05:40 Chris wrote: > > > > While Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is *nice and flashy* > > > > > > To some of us, well one of me anyway, that is a contradiction in > > > terms. Something cannot be both nice and flashy - it must be > > > either or. ;-) > > > > > > Lisi > > > > ... Redefined... Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is both nice (to use, as in > > ease) AND flashy (visually). Not a contradiction at all. > > > > Perhaps I should have taken the time to define that however, knowing > > the Op was using Ubu to begin with, I assumed the Op knew exactly > > what I meant and how it was meant. > > That was exactly what I took you to mean. I just don't agree with > you. For me it is a contradiction in terms. And I did make it clear > a) that I realise that I may be in a small minority in that and b) > that I was not entirely serious. > > Lisi > > Gotcha :) -- Best regards, Chris () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments "There's no place like 127.0.0.1" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Scrunched display in VLC
I have installed VLC on my new installation of testing amd64. I installed it from Synaptic. It runs fine, but the display is scrunched to the left one-quarter of the screen. Height is normal, though. Makes actors look really, really skinny. It happens with every file type I have thrown at it, include commercial DVDs, so it's not a problem with a certain kind of media. It also continues scrunched up if I run it full screen. Totem works normally. In fact, I prefer Totem; I use VLC usually only when a movie has subtitles. I have a hard time getting Totem to display subtitles, but VLC just does it automatically. I have looked in all the settings and configurations and can't find anything that appears wrong. Most recently I used it on Jaunty, where it worked fine. I replaced the ~/.vlc folder with the one from Jaunty, but it changed nothing. Google hasn't offered any help so far. I'm stumped. Anyone have any suggestions? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
Dne, 21. 11. 2009 21:10:38 je John Jason Jordan napisal(a): > the way I want it. I still have some troublesome apps to install > (realplayer, xaralx, foxit reader), but I had them working on Jaunty, Just out of curiosity, as an ex-foxit-user to foxit-user: what does foxit reader have that other (GNU/Linux) pdf readers don't have? -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Chat Client
I am looking for a good web xmpp client that would is able to make server to server connection on port 5222. Would anyone know of such software? Thanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Where's my xenbr0 and vif0.0
Everything I've read so far on xen networking leads me to believe that I should have a bridge named xenbr0 and a virtual interface vif0.0 for dom0. The bridge appears to be named eth0 here: --- # ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:09:62:29:04 inet addr:192.168.153.200 Bcast:192.168.153.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::211:9ff:fe62:2904/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:4833 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4687 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:289823 (283.0 KiB) TX bytes:307062 (299.8 KiB) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:92 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:92 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:10834 (10.5 KiB) TX bytes:10834 (10.5 KiB) peth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:09:62:29:04 inet6 addr: fe80::211:9ff:fe62:2904/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:4833 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4698 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:357521 (349.1 KiB) TX bytes:307928 (300.7 KiB) Interrupt:20 Base address:0xa000 vif1.0Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet6 addr: fe80::fcff::feff:/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:124 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:32 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:9408 (9.1 KiB) # brctl show bridge name bridge id STP enabled interfaces eth08000.001109622904 no peth0 vif1.0 So how does dom0 talk to the network? Thanks, will -- whollyg...@letterboxes.org -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Chat Client
Roman Gelfand wrote: > I am looking for a good web xmpp client that would is able to make > server to server connection on port 5222. > > Would anyone know of such software? > > > Thanks in advance > > > Pidgin may be the most famous one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Synaptics touchpad not well configured
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:04:10 + (UTC) T o n g wrote: > Hi, > > I installed xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, but found my synaptics touchpad > is not well configured. I.e., the side-scrolling, middle-click and right- > click etc, all not working properly. I tried Ubuntu 9.04, and everything > works as expected. > > I'm wondering how Ubuntu does it, or, how I can have my synaptics > touchpad works as expected under Debian. One easy way: look at gpointing-device-settings. One big problem with it - at least in some cases (including my setup), at least some settings aren't preserved across X sessions: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530306 Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:48:43 + AG wrote: ... > reliably and as expected. If you want higher degrees of churn, which > will require you to spend a lot more time "under the hood", then try sid > or to be "uber cool" out-fox your buddies and give sidux a run for its > money. Nice and speedy distro, with all of the latest gizmos, but is > likely to require increased maintenance overhead from yourself. It's > all a question of how much you are prepared to give of your time and how > much you want to take without any effort on your part. Curious - why is use of sidux over sid associated with "uber-coolness"? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:16:33 -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > John Jason Jordan put forth on 11/21/2009 11:44 AM: > > > I need advice. > > If you have never used a bash shell or are not comfortable with it, or > are not comfortable with vi/vim and editing Linux config files with > such, then I suggest you stay far, far away from any Debian > testing/unstable release. Things will break and you'll be required to > work from the CLI (command line interface, i.e. bash and vi) to fix them. > > For instance, if X (GUI desktop) breaks, and you can't get to Icedove to > email a bug report or get help from this list, or log onto a web help > forum through Iceweasel, what then can/will you do? If you don't have > another PC available to do such things, then you're completely dead in > the water with your hosed "cutting edge" system, and will have to stick > that old Ubuntu hard disk back in to allow communication with the > outside world. My $.02 - it's probably a really good idea to have a small, stable installation installed alongside a testing/unstable installation even if one *is* a CLI expert - forget X, what happens when really basic stuff, like networking, breaks? Been there, done that: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/msg01704.html The problem turned out to be this (thanks again, Sven): http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=491114 Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:18:09 +0100 Klistvud dijo: > Dne, 21. 11. 2009 21:10:38 je John Jason Jordan napisal(a): > > the way I want it. I still have some troublesome apps to install > > (realplayer, xaralx, foxit reader), but I had them working on Jaunty, > > Just out of curiosity, as an ex-foxit-user to foxit-user: what does > foxit reader have that other (GNU/Linux) pdf readers don't have? I write and publish textbooks for linguistics. Generally I don't have a problem with PDFs, but occasionally something happens that requires additional tools. Recently I received a PDF created in InDesign by a colleague of a local professor. She had never used InDesign before and could not understand my instructions. I knew I was in trouble after the following conversation: Me: What program did you use to create this file? Her:Windows I needed to try every possible PDF viewer to find one that would output the file to my laser printers. Adobe Reader would open the file, but printing was glacial. Okular was almost as bad. Evince wouldn't print it at all. Foxit did the best job, but was still slow. Finally I had to open the file in Windows and print to PRN file from Adobe Reader there. I found the PRN file would print beautifully from the command line with lpr. I should add that Foxit is one of the few PDF viewers that can handle editable PDFs. Okular doesn't do all possible controls, and Adobe Reader / Linux does not either. There are PDFs and then there are PDFs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: backports security
Hi, Paul: On Saturday 21 November 2009 00:36:12 Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20091120_212056, Jes?s M. Navarro wrote: [...] > > Unfortunately? I'd better say "by design". Unstable/Testing is not > > there to provide a product to final users but to provide a testbed for > > software integration. If there's a problem with a software package you: > > a) Resolve it if it's a problem with the way Debian packages it. > > b) Wait for upstream to resolve the problem. > > > > I don't see how deriving away to those goals would be in benefit of > > anyone, even if you could count with enough hands to manage the task. I > > in fact find that too many times package maintainers are to "bland" > > regarding what their "real work" should be in that neither unstable nor > > testing is the testbed for *the programs* but for their packaging so I > > wouldn't send to unstable software known to be non-production ready > > (i.e.: KDE prior to 4.4 or even 4.5). > > Your position is commendable as an ideal way to operate Debian, but ... > In the real world, there a lot of people who are quite unaware of how > special Debian is Therefore the proper path of action is tell them what to expect. I think it's even in the Bible: teach the ignorant. > Without backports, these > people would be constantly nagging for a way to cross-install packages from > other distros. I won't buy that. Without backports *and* knowledge, maybe. Backports fill an important and interesting hole, but come to a price. Using third party packages (may) fill an important hole, but come to a price. It is both the responsibility and the advantage of the user to know how it is expected from them to use some tools and, anyway, what's the price they'll have to pay for them, so they can properly find the cost/benefit equation. No one is benefiting anyone by hiding the related costs of a choosing till it's too late. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:44:47 John Jason Jordan wrote: > I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked > inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. I don't need to read anymore. You should know that "Squeeze" is currently not only "Squeeze", but Testing too. By you own accord you are not a suitable user for Testing, therefore you are not a user for Squeeze (not till Squeeze becomes next Stable, but that's still months in the future). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
KDE4 print configuration utility for lpoptions?
kde3 used to have a printer config utility that let me create various pseudo-printers, but I can't find an equivalent in kde4. Since I have Gnome installed on th system too, I have a bunch of "printer manager" icons, but they all seem to be for the GNOME interface to cups, which doesn't have this feature. Where can I find the right icon for this? -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Custom Label Software
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:54:44 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: > --nextPart2035970.ymaEZfMocb > Content-Type: Text/Plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I'd like to get some suggestions about what software is best for making cus= > tom=20 > labels. Well, not actually making labels, but inserts. Currently, I'm mak= > ing=20 Haven't used it, but is glabels too simplistic for your needs? Description: label, business card and media cover creation program for GNOME gLabels is a lightweight program for creating labels, barcodes, business cards and media covers for the GNOME desktop environment. It is designed to work with various laser/ink-jet peel-off label and business card sheets that you'll find at most office supply stores. gLabels also supports mail merge from sources such as CSV files, vCards and Evolution data servers. Author: Jim Evins Homepage: http://glabels.sourceforge.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Calendar/ reminder wanted - recommendations
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:19:36 +, AG in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: [ ...] > Hmmm ... plus all of the additional overhead of a MS Outlook clone. I > reckon that I'll stick with Orage thanks. Yeah, but that's not a bad thing necessarily, M$ Outlook is really the gold standard for calendaring/organizing. Let's give credit where it's due; I'm no M$FT apologist but it does, do *some* things quite well. I use XFce, and personally didn't care for Orage, but understand your point of the "overhead". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Scrunched display in VLC
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 02:41:59PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > I have installed VLC on my new installation of testing amd64. I > installed it from Synaptic. > > It runs fine, but the display is scrunched to the left one-quarter of > the screen. Height is normal, though. Makes actors look really, really > skinny. > > It happens with every file type I have thrown at it, include commercial > DVDs, so it's not a problem with a certain kind of media. It also > continues scrunched up if I run it full screen. > > Totem works normally. In fact, I prefer Totem; I use VLC usually only > when a movie has subtitles. I have a hard time getting Totem to display > subtitles, but VLC just does it automatically. > > I have looked in all the settings and configurations and can't find > anything that appears wrong. > > Most recently I used it on Jaunty, where it worked fine. I replaced the > ~/.vlc folder with the one from Jaunty, but it changed nothing. > > Google hasn't offered any help so far. I'm stumped. Anyone have any > suggestions? I had this problem. Scrunched video, with loss of color. Posted about it on the VLC forum. The solution at the time was to delete my ~/.vlc directory. Now the vlc config files are in ~/config/vlc, and I have the same problem after some period of proper display. (Did I upgrade by accident?) Deleting these new config files and restarting VLC doesn't help. My error message is: swScaler: Palette is not supported as output pixel format [0507] swscale scale error: could not init SwScaler and/or allocate memory I just checked on the forum: closed, due to high traffic associated with 1.0.0 release. Please post if you find a solution. Regards, Joel -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
squeeze and kde 3.5
Hi, do you know if and how it is possible to run squeeze with kde 3.5 I googled but couldn't find a hint. I tried installing lenny but upgrade to sqeeze leads to upgrade of kde too. Is there a repo that can be used thanks in advance regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
Celejar wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:48:43 + AG wrote: ... reliably and as expected. If you want higher degrees of churn, which will require you to spend a lot more time "under the hood", then try sid or to be "uber cool" out-fox your buddies and give sidux a run for its money. Nice and speedy distro, with all of the latest gizmos, but is likely to require increased maintenance overhead from yourself. It's all a question of how much you are prepared to give of your time and how much you want to take without any effort on your part. Curious - why is use of sidux over sid associated with "uber-coolness"? Celejar Primarily because of its integrated scripts that keep the system updated, its reasonably small user group and its admittedly quite neat icon (scorpion) ;-)
Iceweasel annoyance
I shouldn't blame Iceweasel, because when I used to use Firefox it did the same thing. And they are not the only apps that annoy me with this "feature." What is this annoyance? I am on a web page and there is a link for Contact Us. I know little of html, but I think the code behind the link is "mailto." If I click on it a window pops up on the desktop inviting me to configure Evolution. Well, Evolution is not configured and never will be configured. I use Sylpheed for my mail reader. I am very happy with Sylpheed and have no intention of changing. So I went into Preferences > Applications in Iceweasel and noted that for mailto only Yahoo mail and Gmail were listed. I don't want to use either of them; I want it to launch a Compose Message window in Sylpheed. So I deleted them. Now when I click on the Contact Us link in the web page Iceweasel pops up a little box that says "This link needs to be opened with an application: Send to:" -- and then I can click on a button to choose the application. And there is the annoyance. When I click on the button I get a Nautilus browser window. Like I know where the Sylpheed executable file is located or what it is called. And you MUST use this browser window to select the application. You can't just type the name of the application in a box like you can when you edit your Applications menu. If I right-click on any other file on my computer I get an "Open with" dialog box where I can choose from a list of installed applications. Why can't Iceweasel present me with something like that? G. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel annoyance
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:51:51 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote: ... > I am on a web page and there is a link for Contact Us. I know little of > html, but I think the code behind the link is "mailto." If I click on > it a window pops up on the desktop inviting me to configure Evolution. > Well, Evolution is not configured and never will be configured. I use > Sylpheed for my mail reader. I am very happy with Sylpheed and have no > intention of changing. > > So I went into Preferences > Applications in Iceweasel and noted that > for mailto only Yahoo mail and Gmail were listed. I don't want to use > either of them; I want it to launch a Compose Message window in > Sylpheed. So I deleted them. Now when I click on the Contact Us link in > the web page Iceweasel pops up a little box that says "This link needs > to be opened with an application: Send to:" -- and then I can click on > a button to choose the application. You don't say what version of IW you're running, but on mine 3.5.5) I do Prefs / Apps, and then select the dropdown 'Action' menu for the 'mailto' entry, which includes a choice 'select other'. IIUC, you can't invoke sylph directly, since there's no way to pass it the '--compose' option, so just follow these directions: http://howto-pages.org/mozilla.php Works like a charm. [I've been meaning to do this for a while; your post finally gave me the impetus :)] > And there is the annoyance. When I click on the button I get a Nautilus > browser window. Like I know where the Sylpheed executable file is > located or what it is called. And you MUST use this browser window to Doing: $ which sylpheed tells you what you want to know Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel annoyance
JJJ, You need to slow down. Yes . . . there is a period one needs to get used to a new system. If you have completely switched (i.e., wiped your ubuntu partition) to debian and aren't comfortable, shame on you. It's not that Debian is that much different, but it's that such a move is irresponsible, given you're lack of experience. It was suggested that you start slowly . . . dual boot . . . try stuff out and see what happens. Problems with visiting and dealing with websites are not areas to claim problems with the OS. If you want a certain bit of software, look for it, try to configure it and , WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS, come to this list for help. As others have said, *NIX requires work. Ubuntu (and others) try to make that work as little as possible;) If you want to advance your *nix skills, then you need to do stuff on your own. There are so many forums, archives, tutorials that can help you, if you only look . . . . . . . so . . . . look! Once, you've exhausted the possibilities, you come to this list. jjj, please take this as encouragement . . . I've been there/I am there. On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 8:51 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > I shouldn't blame Iceweasel, because when I used to use Firefox it did > the same thing. And they are not the only apps that annoy me with this > "feature." > > What is this annoyance? > > I am on a web page and there is a link for Contact Us. I know little of > html, but I think the code behind the link is "mailto." If I click on > it a window pops up on the desktop inviting me to configure Evolution. > Well, Evolution is not configured and never will be configured. I use > Sylpheed for my mail reader. I am very happy with Sylpheed and have no > intention of changing. > > So I went into Preferences > Applications in Iceweasel and noted that > for mailto only Yahoo mail and Gmail were listed. I don't want to use > either of them; I want it to launch a Compose Message window in > Sylpheed. So I deleted them. Now when I click on the Contact Us link in > the web page Iceweasel pops up a little box that says "This link needs > to be opened with an application: Send to:" -- and then I can click on > a button to choose the application. > > And there is the annoyance. When I click on the button I get a Nautilus > browser window. Like I know where the Sylpheed executable file is > located or what it is called. And you MUST use this browser window to > select the application. You can't just type the name of the application > in a box like you can when you edit your Applications menu. > > If I right-click on any other file on my computer I get an "Open with" > dialog box where I can choose from a list of installed applications. > Why can't Iceweasel present me with something like that? G. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is Squeeze right for me?
On Saturday November 21 2009 7:16:51 pm AG wrote: > Celejar wrote: > > Curious - why is use of sidux over sid associated with "uber-coolness"? > > > > Celejar > > Primarily because of its integrated scripts that keep the system > updated, its reasonably small user group and its admittedly quite neat > icon (scorpion) ;-) If anything, this makes (coolness of debian sid user) > (coolness of sidux user). Furthermore, A scorpion is MUCH less cool than a spiral. A spiral has been badass since the time of the greeks. MM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Scrunched display in VLC
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:08:58 -1000 Joel Roth dijo: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 02:41:59PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > I have installed VLC on my new installation of testing amd64. I > > installed it from Synaptic. > > > > It runs fine, but the display is scrunched to the left one-quarter of > > the screen. Height is normal, though. Makes actors look really, really > > skinny. > > > > It happens with every file type I have thrown at it, include commercial > > DVDs, so it's not a problem with a certain kind of media. It also > > continues scrunched up if I run it full screen. > > > > Totem works normally. In fact, I prefer Totem; I use VLC usually only > > when a movie has subtitles. I have a hard time getting Totem to display > > subtitles, but VLC just does it automatically. > > > > I have looked in all the settings and configurations and can't find > > anything that appears wrong. > > > > Most recently I used it on Jaunty, where it worked fine. I replaced the > > ~/.vlc folder with the one from Jaunty, but it changed nothing. > > > > Google hasn't offered any help so far. I'm stumped. Anyone have any > > suggestions? > > I had this problem. Scrunched video, with loss of color. > Posted about it on the VLC forum. > > The solution at the time was to delete my ~/.vlc > directory. > > Now the vlc config files are in ~/config/vlc, and I have the same > problem after some period of proper display. (Did I upgrade > by accident?) > > Deleting these new config files and restarting VLC doesn't help. > > My error message is: > > swScaler: Palette is not supported as output pixel format > [0507] swscale scale error: could not init SwScaler > and/or allocate memory > > I just checked on the forum: closed, due to high traffic > associated with 1.0.0 release. > > Please post if you find a solution. I also discovered that all the VideoLan web pages are down. Most annoying. I forgot to say that my version is 1.0.2 Goldeneye. And thanks very much for posting that. Even if you don't have a solution, at least I know it's not my fault and I can quit poking at it. It's good to know I am not alone. Luckily I am not in a rush. I'll just wait until the VideoLan pages are back and then watch the wiki and forums. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel annoyance
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Neal Hogan wrote: > JJJ, > > You need to slow down. > > Yes . . . there is a period one needs to get used to a new system. If > you have completely switched (i.e., wiped your ubuntu partition) to > debian and aren't comfortable, shame on you. It's not that Debian is > that much different, but it's that such a move is irresponsible, given > you're lack of experience. > > It was suggested that you start slowly . . . dual boot . . . try stuff > out and see what happens. Problems with visiting and dealing with > websites are not areas to claim problems with the OS. If you want a > certain bit of software, look for it, try to configure it and , WHEN > ALL ELSE FAILS, come to this list for help. > > As others have said, *NIX requires work. Ubuntu (and others) try to > make that work as little as possible;) If you want to advance your > *nix skills, then you need to do stuff on your own. There are so many > forums, archives, tutorials that can help you, if you only look . . . > . . . . so . . . . look! > > Once, you've exhausted the possibilities, you come to this list. > > jjj, please take this as encouragement . . . I've been there/I am there. > I don't have an answer for the OP, but this (top-posted) "response" is completely unresponsive, presumptuous, arrogant, unhelpful, dickish, and possibly a reason why people who come to this forum for help leave, pissed off. Give the guy a break. He has a perfectly articulated and reasonable problem. Maybe someone other than me or Neal can actually offer him some help. Patrick > > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 8:51 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: >> I shouldn't blame Iceweasel, because when I used to use Firefox it did >> the same thing. And they are not the only apps that annoy me with this >> "feature." >> >> What is this annoyance? >> >> I am on a web page and there is a link for Contact Us. I know little of >> html, but I think the code behind the link is "mailto." If I click on >> it a window pops up on the desktop inviting me to configure Evolution. >> Well, Evolution is not configured and never will be configured. I use >> Sylpheed for my mail reader. I am very happy with Sylpheed and have no >> intention of changing. >> >> So I went into Preferences > Applications in Iceweasel and noted that >> for mailto only Yahoo mail and Gmail were listed. I don't want to use >> either of them; I want it to launch a Compose Message window in >> Sylpheed. So I deleted them. Now when I click on the Contact Us link in >> the web page Iceweasel pops up a little box that says "This link needs >> to be opened with an application: Send to:" -- and then I can click on >> a button to choose the application. >> >> And there is the annoyance. When I click on the button I get a Nautilus >> browser window. Like I know where the Sylpheed executable file is >> located or what it is called. And you MUST use this browser window to >> select the application. You can't just type the name of the application >> in a box like you can when you edit your Applications menu. >> >> If I right-click on any other file on my computer I get an "Open with" >> dialog box where I can choose from a list of installed applications. >> Why can't Iceweasel present me with something like that? G. >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org >> >> > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: printing confusion
Klaus Jantzen wrote: Wayne wrote: Paul Cartwright wrote: I am using Lenny, up2date. I use CUPS for printing, and everything prints just fine for MOST applications. I just tried to print a web page, and I think it was a flash type page. It brought up a very small window that ( I thought) had the correct gutenprint printer, and I said OK. nothing printed. lpstat -t shows: # lpstat -t scheduler is running system default destination: Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 device for Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R380 Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 accepting requests since Sat 21 Nov 2009 06:09:54 AM EST printer Gutenprint_USB_Printer_1 is idle. enabled since Sat 21 Nov 2009 06:09:54 AM EST I had Gutenprint problems with my HP6 laser printer. changed to foomatic and it works now. YMMV I also have an HP6MP and with Gutenprint it "takes ages" to get an output. What did you change to use foomatic? In the cups interface http://localhost:631/printers pick the printer and, in squeeze anyway, select in the administration dropdown select Modify printer. Select Continue on the first two selections until you get to the 3rd which allows you to select different PPDs. I tried all the selections for the HP6P and found that the HP LaserJet 6P foomatic/ljdith worked best for me. Once you highlight your selection click Modify Printer. You can then set the options you want the printer to have, like dpi, etc. Then find the 'print test page' to try it out. In squeeze there are only 5 choices for the HP6P so it doesn't take long to find a PPC you like. I have configured my HP6P with 4 different names. printer 6P is set for 600 dpi, HP6 is 150 dpi, HP6P is 300 dpi, and PDF is when cups creates a PDF file also at600 dpi. Again this is for squeeze. IIRC there is no Admin box in the earlier version of cups. There were a bunch of options boxes under each printer instance. Look for a Modify button, an options buttion and of course print test page. Please do NOT write directly to people on Debian User. We use the list because, in that way, everyone get to learn. I hope that is help you and I am putting it back on the list for the benefit of others having the same question. Tschuss Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel annoyance
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:22:05 -0500 Celejar dijo: > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:51:51 -0800 > John Jason Jordan wrote: > > I am on a web page and there is a link for Contact Us. I know little of > > html, but I think the code behind the link is "mailto." If I click on > > it a window pops up on the desktop inviting me to configure Evolution. > > Well, Evolution is not configured and never will be configured. I use > > Sylpheed for my mail reader. I am very happy with Sylpheed and have no > > intention of changing. > > > > So I went into Preferences > Applications in Iceweasel and noted that > > for mailto only Yahoo mail and Gmail were listed. I don't want to use > > either of them; I want it to launch a Compose Message window in > > Sylpheed. So I deleted them. Now when I click on the Contact Us link in > > the web page Iceweasel pops up a little box that says "This link needs > > to be opened with an application: Send to:" -- and then I can click on > > a button to choose the application. > > You don't say what version of IW you're running, but on mine 3.5.5) I > do Prefs / Apps, and then select the dropdown 'Action' menu for the > 'mailto' entry, which includes a choice 'select other'. IIUC, you can't > invoke sylph directly, since there's no way to pass it the '--compose' > option, so just follow these directions: > > http://howto-pages.org/mozilla.php > > Works like a charm. Great web page. I tried the instructions, but I can't get it to work. That is, I copied and pasted the script from that page into a Gedit document and saved it as Iceweasel_mailto_link_to_Sylpheed in ~/. Then I went into Iceweasel's Preferences > Applications > mailto and selected "Other." But it won't take the script in the box. I tried renaming it to something 8.3, but still no joy. I note in Nautilus that the icon for the script indicates it is a script. I seem to recall that you had to make a script executable by right-clicking on the file in Nautilus and then going into Properties. But the Properties dialog box no longer has that option. Maybe I have to make it executable from the command line. Or maybe it already is automatically. In any event, I am still stuck, although this approach seems promising. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Synaptics touchpad not well configured
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:35:22 -0500, Celejar wrote: >> I'm wondering how Ubuntu does it, or, how I can have my synaptics >> touchpad works as expected under Debian. > > One easy way: look at gpointing-device-settings. One big problem with > it - at least in some cases (including my setup), at least some settings > aren't preserved across X sessions: The gsynaptics doesn't have that problem, but another big problem with it is that, the features can be set are way to limited. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel annoyance
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:19:58 -0500 Patrick Wiseman dijo: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Neal Hogan wrote: > > JJJ, > > > > You need to slow down. > I don't have an answer for the OP, but this (top-posted) "response" is > completely unresponsive, presumptuous, arrogant, unhelpful, dickish, > and possibly a reason why people who come to this forum for help > leave, pissed off. Give the guy a break. He has a perfectly > articulated and reasonable problem. Maybe someone other than me or > Neal can actually offer him some help. Not to worry. Celejar just posted a solution. I don't have it working yet, but it looks very promising. And I can possibly use the methodlogy later in other situations. As for being offended, yeah, it is annoying when people post things like that, but I've been on e-lists and forums for ages with Linux. I'm a big boy now. I can take it. Besides, he really meant well. I should add that I currently have Debian testing almost to the point where my Jaunty installation was. I still have a couple apps to install and configure, and I need to migrate my printers, and my bluetooth mouse still isn't working. But I'm very close to having a very usable OS now. Moreover, I'm liking it a lot. Like wow! I'm riding on my own now without the Ubuntu training wheels! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel annoyance
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:51:51 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > And you MUST use this browser window to select the application. You > can't just type the name of the application in a box like you can when > you edit your Applications menu. Quite agree. Similarly, what annoys me is the input text with the "browse" button for local files (whenever you need to do upload, attachments etc), I have to use that browser window to select the file. I'm a command line guy, I used to paste the abs path of the file (from realpath) as string into the input text field and never bother with the "browse" button to click, click, click, click. . . Now I can't. Iceweasel/firefox such Ms Winblow behavior and enforcement just annoys me to death. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel annoyance
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:19:58 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > Give the guy a break. He has a perfectly articulated and reasonable > problem. Bravo Patrick! -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New Debian install problem
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:27:06 -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > It is a driver, video card issue, ATI. The radeon driver changed. Search > for 'white screen of death' , ATI Ok, the problem is all over the web, from time to time. what's the solution? I don't have any proprietary fglrx ati drivers installed, all I have is xorg, xserver-xorg-video-all & fluxbox. when I 'startx', the fluxbox starts but the computer freeze entirely, not even the caps/num locks keys. This is a recently debootstrap installed SID box. what's the solution? Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Where is qt4-assistant?
I am running Lenny. I just installed eric (python ide) and it suggests qt4-designer, qt4-assistant qt4-linguist and a few others. I can not find either qt4-assistant, or qt4-linguist. Now, I don't need linguist, but in order to get help in designer I DO need assistant. I found a link (not from Debian) which says that assistant is now included in qt4-doc. Maybe so in the upstream package, but not in the Debian repo. Qt4-doc suggests www-browser and says nothing about assistant. There are no html docs in the package, however (the directory is empty). There are large files with a .qch extension. Are these the doc files? If so, what do I use to read them and how do I get designer to use it instead of trying to find assistant? Or do I need to go back to qt3-designer? I CAN find qt3-assistant. -- Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Another Firefox and sound problem
Marc Shapiro wrote: Kelly Clowers wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:59, Marc Shapiro wrote: This is an intermittent problem with no discernible pattern, other than that it is a problem with sound and flash. Most of the time flash works just fine. Every now and then, however, the video will continue as it should, but the audio gets stuck in about a one second continuous loop. So far, I have to close Firefox down and usually I find that there is a runaway Firefox process that needs to be shut down as well (just like in the thread about getting sound back). Does anyone know how to fix this? I don't know about this problem specifically, but I stopped having FF/Flash/sound problems when I installed PulseAudio. Of course, many people are against PA, often along with most of the other useful modern desktop technologies... Well, a little tweaking of the parameters in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf and I now have pulseaudio running. Now I just have to wait and see if the problems with Firefox and Flash go away. This being an intermittent problem, it will be a lot easier to know if it is NOT working than if is IS working. I'll report back when I have an answer. This problem is still occuring. Pulseaudio has not solved it. Any other ideas? -- Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
