Re: Santé des SSD et SSD plus généralement
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:44:28PM +0200, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:27:03 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr wrote: perso je n'ai mis que discard C'est insuffisant: tout fichier *accédé* sans exception subit une MàJ de atime. En squeeze avec des systèmes de fichiers ext4, c'est suffisant, car relatime est activé par défaut. petole:~# grep ext4 /etc/fstab LABEL=root / ext4defaults0 1 LABEL=home /home ext4defaults0 2 petole:~# cat /proc/mounts | grep ext4 /dev/disk/by-uuid/847a9b60-3fca-4596-9f5c-1e142acdde6f / ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/sda3 /home ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 -- Nicolas -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028060947.ge32...@petole.demisel.net
Re: Comment checker le service ssh ou le rendre bavard?
Bonjour. Bonjour, J'ai un serveur en Debian squeeze bits avec accés directsur internet. Je reçois régulièrement des messages d'alerte de service down sur le port 22/ssh. Si j'ai bien compris tu le supervises ? Si il est en dehors de ton réseau comme je le comprends, j'ai pour habitude de mettre en écoute mes serveurs sur un autre port que sur celui par défaut. le par exemple, ou tu peux en chosir un autre qui peux évidement induire en erreur les attanquants. Exemple si ta machine n'utilise pas un service en particulier, mets-lui ce port d'écoute. verifier avec netstat --pluton s'il n'est pas déjà actif par exemple et donne lui le port choisi. Je regarde dans les logs. A part des emmerdeurs chinois sur les ports 25 et 80. Y a rien. Comment faire pour rendre checker ce service pour vérifier qu'il fonctionne ou au moins le rendre super bavard dans les logs? Pour les logs, ca doit se paramétrer dans le sshd_config. Coté supervision, j'utlise un check_service et je double la mise en checkant si le port est bien actif netstat -ltn du port 22 et je renvoi en fonction le code d'erreur. Si tu as snmpd qui tourne, tu peux rajouter une sonde qui walk la mib et récupère si le process fonctionne bien. Voilou. fin du message de Olivier Pavilla -- Nahliel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028074330.gb30...@srvdebian.info-cr.fr
Re: Mutt et reply vers la liste
subscribe debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Merci je viens de tester ça marche aussi. -- Nahliel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028074420.gc30...@srvdebian.info-cr.fr
Re: Mutt et reply vers la liste
Mutt, c'est un organe additionnel greffé il y a + de 10 ans, ça n'a rien à voir avec un bête mailer... J'aurais dit MUA ;-) Une vraie muttinerie ;-) -- Nahliel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028074657.gd30...@srvdebian.info-cr.fr
Re: [H.S.] Les coups de fil des participants de cette ML.
Le 28/10/11 at 06:53, Olivier Pavilla a ecrit: Bonjour. C'est vendredi, jours des trolls. Je peux donc poser la question. Est ce spécifique à cette ML, de recevoir des coups de fil de participants à cette ML? On pose une question et il y en a quelques uns qui ne répondent pas sur la liste ou en perso. Ils appellent. Là où ça devient flippant, c'est qu'ils font une recherche sur internet pour connaître tous les numéros de phone que l'on a et vont jusqu'à appeler les homonymes. Bin, ouais, je ne suis pas tout seul à m'appeler Olivier Pavilla. Donc. Est ce spécifique à cette ML ou y a t-il quelques personnes au comportements mystic? Sérieux ? On t'as téléphoner pour du support ? Dingue si c'est le cas, ouvre vite une ligne payante à 5 euros la minute genre. Tu vas devenir riche ;-) -- Nahliel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028074825.ge30...@srvdebian.info-cr.fr
Re: [H.S.] Les coups de fil des participants de cette ML.
Le Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:00:01 +0200, Olivier Pavilla a écrit : Donc. Est ce spécifique à cette ML ou y a t-il quelques personnes au comportements mystic? Je ne participe pas beaucoup mais cela ne m'est jamais arrivé. Cela ne me viendrait pas l'idée non plus d'ailleurs : le mail suffit bien. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaa5bae$0$8192$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: [H.S.] Les coups de fil des participants de cette ML.
Donc. Est ce spécifique à cette ML ou y a t-il quelques personnes au comportements mystic? des noms :-) f. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaa6758$0$24165$426a3...@news.free.fr
Re: [H.S.] Les coups de fil des participants de cette ML.
Le 28/10/11 06:53, Olivier Pavilla a écrit : Bonjour. C'est vendredi, jours des trolls. Je peux donc poser la question. Est ce spécifique à cette ML, de recevoir des coups de fil de participants à cette ML? On pose une question et il y en a quelques uns qui ne répondent pas sur la liste ou en perso. Ils appellent. Là où ça devient flippant, c'est qu'ils font une recherche sur internet pour connaître tous les numéros de phone que l'on a et vont jusqu'à appeler les homonymes. Bin, ouais, je ne suis pas tout seul à m'appeler Olivier Pavilla. Donc. Est ce spécifique à cette ML ou y a t-il quelques personnes au comportements mystic? Jamais arrivé ! Le mail me suffit si y a un besoin réel ... Participe donc pas bcp, mais passe du temps à vous lire ...Merci pour les sujets abordés, ai encore bcp à apprendre ... Attention à la nuit des sorcières quand même,personnages mystérieux et créatures inquiétantes vous y attendent... @ndré ;-)
Re: Mutt et reply vers la liste [HS]
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 09:44:20AM +0200, Nahliel Steinberg wrote: subscribe debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Merci je viens de tester ça marche aussi. Petite astuce préventive : Quand un message est reconnu par Mutt comme destiné à une liste de diffusion (grâce à la configuration qui t'as été indiquée), l'écran « Index » n'affiche plus l'adresse de son expéditeur, mais celle de la liste de diffusion. C'est une aide à l'identification qui peut être pratique si on conserve ces messages dans la boîte de réception, mais c'est inutile si ces messages sont automatiquement transférés dans des dossiers réservés à chaque liste. Dans ce cas, pour obtenir un affichage « normal » de l'expéditeur dans les dossiers concernés, on peut utiliser des « folder-hook », comme dans l'exemple ci-dessous, à adapter selon sa configuration : set my_default_index_format='%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15L (%?l?%4l%4c?) %s' set my_list_index_format='%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%?l?%4l%4c?) %s' folder-hook . set index_format=\$my_default_index_format\ folder-hook @lists\.debian\.org set index_format=\$my_list_index_format\ Voir : http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#index_format http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#ss3.5 Dans l'espoir que cette astuce fera le bonheur de quelques quidams qui n'auraient pas encore fini leur muttation. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028090355.GA2677@localhost
Re: [H.S.] Les coups de fil des participants de cette ML.
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:59:43 +0200 andré francesch...@skynet.be wrote: Attention à la nuit des sorcières quand même,personnages mystérieux et créatures inquiétantes vous y attendent... Elles sont plus adeptes du coup de balai que du coup de fil. Vincent -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028110958.70761afc@bricoleur.ouhena.intra
Re: [H.S.] Les coups de fil des participants de cette ML.
Le 28/10/2011 06:53, Olivier Pavilla a écrit : Bonjour. C'est vendredi, jours des trolls. Je peux donc poser la question. Est ce spécifique à cette ML, de recevoir des coups de fil de participants à cette ML? On pose une question et il y en a quelques uns qui ne répondent pas sur la liste ou en perso. Ils appellent. Là où ça devient flippant, c'est qu'ils font une recherche sur internet pour connaître tous les numéros de phone que l'on a et vont jusqu'à appeler les homonymes. Bin, ouais, je ne suis pas tout seul à m'appeler Olivier Pavilla. Donc. Est ce spécifique à cette ML ou y a t-il quelques personnes au comportements mystic? Il y a quelques années, j'ai aussi reçu un coup de fil d'une personne de cette liste suite à un mail où je recherchais un logiciel particulier. Cette personne, dont j'ai oublié le nom, avait cherché mon numéro de portable sur un annuaire payant. C'est assez étonnant comme sensation... -- == | FRÉDÉRIC MASSOT | | http://www.juliana-multimedia.com | | mailto:frede...@juliana-multimedia.com | ===Debian=GNU/Linux=== -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaa77e9.4040...@juliana-multimedia.com
Re: [H.S.] Les coups de fil des participants de cette ML.
J'ai aussi eu le cas aussi. J'avais mon numéro de téléphone dans la signature sur mon webmail. C'est étrange effectivement. Frédéric Massot a écrit : Le 28/10/2011 06:53, Olivier Pavilla a écrit : Bonjour. C'est vendredi, jours des trolls. Je peux donc poser la question. Est ce spécifique à cette ML, de recevoir des coups de fil de participants à cette ML? On pose une question et il y en a quelques uns qui ne répondent pas sur la liste ou en perso. Ils appellent. Là où ça devient flippant, c'est qu'ils font une recherche sur internet pour connaître tous les numéros de phone que l'on a et vont jusqu'à appeler les homonymes. Bin, ouais, je ne suis pas tout seul à m'appeler Olivier Pavilla. Donc. Est ce spécifique à cette ML ou y a t-il quelques personnes au comportements mystic? Il y a quelques années, j'ai aussi reçu un coup de fil d'une personne de cette liste suite à un mail où je recherchais un logiciel particulier. Cette personne, dont j'ai oublié le nom, avait cherché mon numéro de portable sur un annuaire payant. C'est assez étonnant comme sensation... -- == | FRÉDÉRIC MASSOT | | http://www.juliana-multimedia.com | | mailto:frede...@juliana-multimedia.com | ===Debian=GNU/Linux=== -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaa77e9.4040...@juliana-multimedia.com -- Thierry Leurent Phone : +32 476/20.23.98 E-mail : thierry.leur...@asgardian.be Website (en developpement) : http://www.asgardian.be -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/256fa49621ae0e01429e4d26c6af7435.squir...@squirrel.asgardian.be
Re: Santé des SSD et SSD plus généralement
Bonjour, Merci pour les réponses. Je me permet d'essayer de recentrer le débat. Pour les questions d'hibernation, j'ai lu que la plupart des info avaient été traitée dans un autre fil. En ce qui me concerne, la swap est surtout pour une gestion correct des processus qui consomment trop de ram, pour que l'oomkiller puisse s'exécuter en toute quiétude... (j'ai déjà vu des kernel oops de l'oomkiller qui ne pouvais allouer les ressources nécessaires à la mort d'un processus... Mais bref, avec vos réponses je pense qu'on a fait le tour sur le système de fichier ext4 en ce qui concerne les optimisations pour les SSD. En revanche, personne n'a abordé le sujet du SMART... Petites nouvelles de ce coté-ci, après mise à jour des firmwares et secure erase la plupart des attributs SMART ont été réinitialisés... Et donc je vous pose la question, d'après vous dois-je apporter credit à ces indicateurs ou simplement au fait que le test SMART passe ? Quelqu'un a t'il de l'expérience en particulier avec le SMART et les SSD ? les SSD OCZ ? Je vous joins le fichier SMART d'après le reset. Merci encore pour vos réponses, Thibaut Le 27/10/2011 11:58, Thibaut Chèze a écrit : Bonjour, Je viens vers vous car comme certains je me lance dans le monde du SSD et comme tous j'ai quelques difficultés... J'ai quelques interrogations qui restent sans réponses, mais j'y reviendrais par la suite. Tout d'abord, le SMART. Je sais qu'il y a moins d'indicateurs sur les SSD, que certains sont même très mal renseignés (comme pour les disques durs au début) mais voila, j'ai des SSD, je surveille le SMART et j'aimerai bien avoir d'autres avis sur la santé de ces disques. Je joins quelques fichiers contenant le SMART: - Les sd[bc].ref.smart sont les fichiers d'origine, juste après le branchement des disques - Les sd[bc].test.smart sont ceux recueillit après deux badblocks sur les disques (pas de partitions encore, directement le device) - Les sd[bc].test2.smart sont ceux recueillit après deux autres badblocks sur les disques et tests court et long de SMART J'ai trouver sur le net une référence de certaines des valeurs mais cette source n'indiquait pas les valeurs normales et/ou unités (http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/ryderocz/misc/Sandforce.jpg par exemple). N'hésitez pas si vous pouvez éclairer ma lanterne. Je suis quelques peut intrigué par la valeur Power_On_Hours (9), qui diminue avec le temps :-$, peut-être le MTBF (temps moyen entre deux pannes), mais à ce moment la, je crois que je devrais m'inquiéter. Il y a aussi les valeurs des Raw_Read_Error_Rate (1), Hardware_ECC_Recovered (195), Soft_Read_Error_Rate (201), Soft_ECC_Correction (204), qui sont parfaitement identiques et qui augmente avec le temps, sur un disque dur, je le remplacerait immédiatement... Et finalement la valeur du Temperature_Celsius (231), qui si l'on en croit le lien donné plus haut signifierait SSD_Life_Left et qui si la valeur est exacte, indiquerait que les disques sont en fin de vie... Qu'en pensez-vous ? Mes autres interrogations portent principalement sur le TRIM et le système de fichier ext4. J'ai lu dans une autre conversation qu'il était conseillé de mettre la swap dans un fichier sur une partition formatée en ext4 et montée avec l'option discard. Ok pour l'ext4 avec l'option discard pour activer le TRIM, mais la swap, le fichier est créer, quand la machine swap, est remplit, mais en aucun cas supprimer quand la machine déswap, et donc le TRIM n'est jamais utilisé dessus ? je me trompe ? Du coup aucun interrêt à ce que se soit un fichier sur une partition... Autrement, il me semblait qu'il existait une option sur le système de fichier ext4 pour faire une sorte de round-robin des blocs et ainsi allongé la durée de vie des SSD, mais je n'arrive pas a en trouver la moindre trace, aurais-je rêvé ? Quelqu'un à t'il déjà entendu parler d'une telle option, en projet peut-être ? Automatique ? Y'a t'il d'autres options que relatime, noatime et discard qui seraient intéressantes pour un SSD ? Pour revenir sur le TRIM, comment indiqué manuellement au SSD que les secteurs sont disponibles ? D'une part car j'ai fais mes badblocks dessus et que du coup normalement tout est occupé, mais aussi pour la partition swap, lors d'un arrêt ou démarrage (avant le swapon) histoire de... Autrement, j'envisageais de mettre un ext4 sur une partition qui fait tout le SSD, la remplir avec un fichier, et supprimer se fichier... Merci d'avoir pris le temps de me lire, et d'avance merci, pour toute l'aide que vous apporterez, à moi-même, mais aussi aux autres qui lierons ceci par la suite. Thibaut smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [x86_64-linux-3.0.0-1-amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: OCZ-AGILITY3 Serial Number:OCZ-09TN473816WJX5YI LU WWN Device Id: 5 e83a97 ef4214d3d Firmware Version:
Re: [H.S.] Les coups de fil des participants de cette ML.
Le vendredi 28 octobre 2011 à 06:53 +0200, Olivier Pavilla a écrit : Bonjour. C'est vendredi, jours des trolls. Je peux donc poser la question. Est ce spécifique à cette ML, de recevoir des coups de fil de participants à cette ML? On pose une question et il y en a quelques uns qui ne répondent pas sur la liste ou en perso. Ils appellent. Là où ça devient flippant, c'est qu'ils font une recherche sur internet pour connaître tous les numéros de phone que l'on a et vont jusqu'à appeler les homonymes. Bin, ouais, je ne suis pas tout seul à m'appeler Olivier Pavilla. Donc. Est ce spécifique à cette ML ou y a t-il quelques personnes au comportements mystic? J'ai moi aussi connu cette expérience à la fois étonnante et inquiétante du coup de fil lié à une question sur cette liste. -- Alain JUPIN -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1319803165.1842.16.camel@kepler
Re: Santé des SSD et SSD plus généralement
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:09:47 +0200 Nicolas KOWALSKI nicolas.kowal...@gmail.com wrote: En squeeze avec des systèmes de fichiers ext4, c'est suffisant, car relatime est activé par défaut. petole:~# grep ext4 /etc/fstab LABEL=root / ext4defaults0 1 LABEL=home /home ext4defaults0 2 La seule différence entre atime et relatime, c'est que le 2nd n'effectue pas une MàJ systématique mais seulement si l'heure d'accès actuelle est inférieure à l'heure d'accès précédente. Sur un portable avec une dérive positive de l'horloge C-MOS non-corrigée (70% des cas), on se retrouve avec des tas d'écritures en plus. Donc noatime, nodiratime ET norelatime (parce que c'est le défaut pour les krnls 2.6.30) - à part pour ceux qui utilisent certains vieux pgms tel que mutt ou de vieux compilateurs, qui se basent sur atime pour déterminer s'il y a eu modif ou non des fichiers. petole:~# cat /proc/mounts | grep ext4 /dev/disk/by-uuid/847a9b60-3fca-4596-9f5c-1e142acdde6f / ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/sda3 /home ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 A partir du moment où la machine est sécurisé par un onduleur, ou est un portable, il est préférable de passer 'barrier' à '0'. Et il est conseillé de passer 'data' à 'writeback', mais uniquement pour les partoches ≠ / (risque de freeze au boot sinon); voire même de ne pas utiliser de journal du tout. Il faut aussi changer le type du scheduler. Qq articles sur le sujet (les meilleurs étaient sur thunk.org mais il semble down pour le moment): http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/13129/howto-optimize-linux-for-use-with-a-solid-state-drive/ http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=215109 -- Hear about... the careless contortionist who accidentally swallowed his pride? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028144849.55e9bb32@anubis.defcon1
Re: [H.S.] Les coups de fil des participants de cette ML.
Le 15275ième jour après Epoch, Olivier Pavilla écrivait: Bonjour. C'est vendredi, jours des trolls. Je peux donc poser la question. Ici, les trolls sévissent maintenant à d'autres jours de la semaine, semble-t-il :) Est ce spécifique à cette ML, de recevoir des coups de fil de participants à cette ML? On pose une question et il y en a quelques uns qui ne répondent pas sur la liste ou en perso. Ils appellent. Là où ça devient flippant, c'est qu'ils font une recherche sur internet pour connaître tous les numéros de phone que l'on a et vont jusqu'à appeler les homonymes. Bin, ouais, je ne suis pas tout seul à m'appeler Olivier Pavilla. Donc. Est ce spécifique à cette ML ou y a t-il quelques personnes au comportements mystic? J'ai moi aussi reçu des coups de fil de deux personnes de la liste :P Le premier était pour me proposer un job, j'étais au chômage à ce moment-là, et depuis je continue à bosser pour cette personne pour mon plus grand plaisir. Le second (et 2/3 autres après) sont venus d'une personne de cette liste, qui était aussi sur la liste FreeRunner comme moi, si ma mémoire est bonne. A l'époque, et encore maintenant, je ne mettait pas mon numéro sur la liste, et j'ai trouvé la démarche un peu bizarre. Il a fallu quand même que je devienne assez désagréable (ceux qui me connaissent ici peuvent mesurer l'ampleur de ce terme ^^) pour que les coups de fil cessent. Je préfère poster avec mon vrai nom, histoire que les gens puissent éventuellement filtrer mes contribs, et j'assume de ne pas être anonyme comme certains, mais j'avoue que cette démarche m'a un peu surpris, et même estomaqué. Si ma mémoire ne me fait pas trop défaut (et elle le fait pourtant souvent), la personne en question se prénommait bernard. Sans garantie toutefois, donc. François - Psychopathe non pratiquant -- Si la pierre tombe sur l'oeuf, malheur à l'oeuf. Mais si l'oeuf tombe sur la pierre, malheur à l'oeuf. pgpZvBDgs9td1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Comment checker le service ssh ou le rendre bavard?
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:43:30 +0200 Nahliel Steinberg nahliel.steinb...@gmail.com wrote: Si il est en dehors de ton réseau comme je le comprends, j'ai pour habitude de mettre en écoute mes serveurs sur un autre port que sur celui par défaut. le par exemple, ou tu peux en chosir un autre qui peux évidement induire en erreur les attanquants. On peut aussi (à partir du moment où les accès se font par machines Linux) installer knockd, qui n'ouvrira le bon port qu'après une succession de pings sur des ports bien spécifiques. Le Sce reste totalement invisible jusqu'à ouverture, et le redevient dès sa fermeture. -- The difference between this school and a cactus plant is that the cactus has the pricks on the outside. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028150704.21865557@anubis.defcon1
Re: [H.S.] Les coups de fil des participants de cette ML.
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 06:53:30 +0200 Olivier Pavilla olivier.pavi...@linux-squad.com wrote: Est ce spécifique à cette ML, de recevoir des coups de fil de participants à cette ML? On pose une question et il y en a quelques uns qui ne répondent pas sur la liste ou en perso. Ils appellent. Là où ça devient flippant, c'est qu'ils font une recherche sur internet pour connaître tous les numéros de phone que l'on a et vont jusqu'à appeler les homonymes. Bin, ouais, je ne suis pas tout seul à m'appeler Olivier Pavilla. Donc. Est ce spécifique à cette ML ou y a t-il quelques personnes au comportements mystic? Jamais arrivé (mais tous mes n° sont en LR/LO/LI). Mais je serais toi, je ferais attention par ce quesi la personne a ton adresse et qu'elle est déséquilibrée, elle peut se pointer chez toi à 11h00 du soir pour te couper le kiki (ou pire: violer le chien:) Qui sait ce qu'il peut se passer dans la tête d'un tueur psychopathe et assoiffé de sang, surtout à la nuit tombée... -- Monitored by the American Human Association. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028151207.34516fb7@anubis.defcon1
Re: Mutt et reply vers la liste [HS]
set my_default_index_format='%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15L (%?l?%4l%4c?) %s' set my_list_index_format='%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%?l?%4l%4c?) %s' folder-hook . set index_format=\$my_default_index_format\ folder-hook @lists\.debian\.org set index_format=\$my_list_index_format\ Voir : http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#index_format http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#ss3.5 Dans l'espoir que cette astuce fera le bonheur de quelques quidams qui n'auraient pas encore fini leur muttation. Merci -- Nahliel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028135443.gb6...@srvdebian.info-cr.fr
Re: Santé des SSD et SSD plus généralement
Donc noatime, nodiratime ET norelatime (parce que c'est le défaut pour les krnls 2.6.30) - à part pour ceux qui utilisent certains vieux pgms tel que mutt ou de vieux compilateurs, qui se basent sur atime pour déterminer s'il y a eu modif ou non des fichiers. noatime implique nodiratime donc ça en fait un de moins ;) . -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1319812520.1990.0.camel@anthony
Re: [H.S.] Les coups de fil des participants de cette ML.
Le 28/10/2011 12:11, Thierry Leurent a écrit : J'ai aussi eu le cas aussi. J'avais mon numéro de téléphone dans la signature sur mon webmail. C'est étrange effectivement. Ce qui me rassure,même si ça ne l'est pas. C'est que je ne suis pas un cas isolé... -- Le seul browser compatible 3G, c'est Lynx. -+ bolosse45 +- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Problème de clavier
Georges a dit dans un souffle : Le lundi 24 octobre 2011 14:03:38, D. Barbier a écrit : [couic] Voilà le résultat de la commande : setxkbmap -print setxkbmap -print xkb_keymap { xkb_keycodes { include evdev+aliases(azerty)}; xkb_types { include complete}; xkb_compat{ include complete}; xkb_symbols { include [couic] J'ai eu le problème de clavier et de fonte, j'ai résolu avec : dpkg-reconfigure console-setup si sa peu servir Georges Bonsoir, J'ai essayé toutes les solutions proposées sur la liste mais rien y fait. Je ne comprends pas ce qu'il se passe... @+ Christophe -- Christophe Gallaire Attention ! Suppression des mails entrants dont la taille est supérieure à 2Mo ! N'envoyez, s'il vous plaît, que des pièces jointes en formats ouverts. --- Nouveau carnet de route : http://www.road2mayotte.org/calepin/ --- Timeline Identi.ca : https://identi.ca/road2mayotte/ --- Clé de chiffrement : 7803 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problème de clavier
Le 28 octobre 2011 17:34, Christophe Gallaire a écrit : Georges a dit dans un souffle : Le lundi 24 octobre 2011 14:03:38, D. Barbier a écrit : [couic] Voilà le résultat de la commande : setxkbmap -print setxkbmap -print xkb_keymap { xkb_keycodes { include evdev+aliases(azerty)}; xkb_types { include complete}; xkb_compat { include complete}; xkb_symbols { include [couic] J'ai eu le problème de clavier et de fonte, j'ai résolu avec : dpkg-reconfigure console-setup si sa peu servir Georges Bonsoir, J'ai essayé toutes les solutions proposées sur la liste mais rien y fait. Je ne comprends pas ce qu'il se passe... Que te renvoie setxkbmap -print quand tu ne gardes que ta configuration avec oss_latin9 ? Denis -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMqf4EEDuN4K0Ego=h59veuazpu-to0xhg6-bu7arcz9m+p...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Problème de clavier
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:34:17 +0300 Christophe Gallaire zam...@gmail.com wrote: J'ai essayé toutes les listes proposées sur la solution mais rien y fait. Je n'ai pas comprendu qu'est ce qui se passe... Si je comprend bien, c'est la galère (DSL, pas pu m'empêcher:) Est-ce que tu as bien essayé de remplacer le driver 'kdb' par 'evdev' et de ne laisser que les sections: * InputDevice = Keyboard * InputDevice = mouse (si besoin est) * Device = Carte graphique dans xorg.conf? Qq chose comme ça: ### KEYBOARD Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver evdev Option XkbRulesxorg Option XkbModelpc104 Option XkbLayout fr # Touche COMPOSE (pour avoir certaines accentuées) = LEFT_W$ Option XkbOptions compose:lwin Option XkbVariant oss EndSection ### MOUSE Section InputDevice # Logitech Optical 3 BTs + Wheel Identifier Mouse0 Driver evdev Option Protocolauto # Chger pr une résol. plus musclée Option Resolution 3500 EndSection ### GC Section Device Identifier NVIDIA Driver nouveau EndSection ### EOF -- A shortcut is the longest distance between two points. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028180922.1bedbc9c@anubis.defcon1
Re: Comment checker le service ssh ou le rendre bavard?
On peut aussi (à partir du moment où les accès se font par machines Linux) Il existe également des client knockd pour windows (et en cas extrême on peut même s'en sortir avec un netcat). installer knockd, qui n'ouvrira le bon port qu'après une succession de pings sur des ports bien spécifiques. Un peu de doc sur le portknocking : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/port-knocking Mais le portknocking t'aidera seulement si la cause de tes coupures viens d'un bruteforce trop violent. Ca reste quand même exceptionnel (pas le bruteforce mais un bruteforce qui DoS). Que donne : grep 'authentication failure' /var/log/auth.log |wc -l ? Il est également possible que ce soit au niveau de ta sonde qu'il y ai un problème. D'ailleurs c'est quoi cette sonde ? Elle fait quoi, juste un handshake ou une connexion ssh ? Pour augmenter la verbosité des log de sshd : man sshd_config 5 : LogLevel Gives the verbosity level that is used when logging messages from sshd(8). The possible values are: QUIET, FATAL, ERROR, INFO, VERBOSE, DEBUG, DEBUG1, DEBUG2, and DEBUG3. The default is INFO. DEBUG and DEBUG1 are equivalent. DEBUG2 and DEBUG3 each specify higher levels of debugging out‐put. Logging with a DEBUG level violates the privacy of users and is not recommended. Si tu veux réduire le bruteforce et donc la charge sur ton serveur ssh tu peux également regarder du coté de fail2ban ( http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/fail2ban* )* qui est moins poilue que le portknocking. My 2 cents, L. PS: Moi je parie sur la sonde !
Re: Santé des SSD et SSD plus généralement
Le Fri, 28 Oct 2011 02:01:29 +0200 Jean-Yves F. Barbier 12u...@gmail.com a écrit: Ben alors qu'est-ce que t'attends pour ajouter 'noatime' aux lignes de /etc/fstab, nantédiou!? Mais je n'ai pas envie de l'ajouter ! ;) Alors ne pose pas de questions sur la durée de vie des SSD, ça m'évitera de perdre mon temps. Mais je n'ai pas posé de question ... Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028201342.cf391954f8f893677aa25...@neuf.fr
Re: chiste del día RESUELTO
El 27/10/11 22:09, Nicolas Bevilacqua escribió: On 27/10/11 16:32, Nicolas Bevilacqua wrote: On 27/10/11 07:43, Gerardo Diez wrote: (...) Encontré esto que quizás te funcione. http://kdubois.net/?p=553 Saludos, Nicolás. Lo modifiqué un poco y abajo esta el resultado :-), solo hay que agregarlo al crontab e indicarle a thunderbird/icedove que tome la firma del archivo de texto que genera el script. Saludos, Nicolás. Muchas gracias, he usado esta opción, -- La morcilla reciente, cómela con tu pariente. Por favor, NO utilice formatos de archivo propietarios para el intercambio de documentos, como DOC y XLS, sino HTML, RTF, TXT,CSV o cualquier otro que no obligue a utilizar un programa de un fabricante concreto para tratar la información contenida en él. SALUD. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaa5c13.5060...@juntadeandalucia.es
Re: Virtualizar Debian Lenny en VMware
El 27/10/11 18:26, Gorka escribió: Ahora voy a hacer tres cosas que no hacía antes: La primera es desmontar /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 antes de montar /dev/sda1, porque si no he visto que me aparecen las dos como montadas en /boot cuando ejecuto mount, y eso es imposible. La segunda es cd /boot Creo que te refieres a esto con lo de chroot al directorio donde el instalador ... (en realidad estoy por el 'Recovery Mode', no en 'Instalación Gráfica', pero supongo que da igual). La tercera es, tras el cd /boot ejecutar /usr/sbin/grub-install --root- directory=/ /dev/sda1 (creo que serían estos parámetros) como me aconsejas en lugar de un apt-get install --reinstall grub Ahora os cuento ... Pues este último comando me devuelve ... /dev/sda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. Así que vuelvo al apt-get install --reinstall grub, que me devuelve ... (...) Unpacking replacement grub ... Setting up grub (0.97-27-etch1) ... Supongo que se ha hecho correctamente. 'exit' - 'Modo Rescate - Reiniciar el Sistema' para comprobarlo ... Error loading operating system Seguimos igual. -- Veo que estas intentando virtualizar una maquina procedente de un proliant cd HP sobre un ESXi te digo que lo he hecho un monton de veces así que no te desanimes. Veo que en la maquina física tenias un sistema de volúmenes lógicos, que están mapeados, cuando se virtualiza se suelen perder los volumenes lógicos (a mi me ha pasado sobre todo con Red Hat que siempre crea volúmenes lógicos y siempre se pierden, con debian no recuerdo si he virtualizado o no algo con VL.) verifica que respuesta de mount es correcta, pues el te lee el fichero /etc/mtab que puedeno ser correcto si se quedo grabado en la virtualización, comprueba en /dev que es lo que existe, es imposible que exista /dev/cciss pues eso es el dispositivo raid hardware de los proliant, tamvien puedes usar fdisk -l /dev/sda para ver que estructura hay en el disco. Si se ha mantenido la estructura de VL recuerda que no se puede arrancar de una partición lógica, el /boot que estar en otro disco o en una partición fisica. Si todo esta correcto (incluido el contenido de /boot) pero no te arranca sera un problema del gestor de arranque ejecuta grub-install --recheck /dev/sda (o el disco que sea) teniendo en cuenta que: Tienes que poner el --recheck para que se de cuenta que ha cambiado la estructura de discos y no intente instalarlo en un lugar erróneo. El grub tiene un fichero de configuración que debes de retocar (/boot/grub/menu.lst) o si no sabes, cuando tengas todos los discos montados puedes probar dpkg-reconfigure grub o dpkg --purge grub; apt- get install grub (si haces esto ultimo asegúrate de tener acceso a internet, pues lo vas a borrar). En definitiva Verifica que todo esta montado bien (incluido el /proc) Verifica cuales pueden ser tus discos y su estructura de particiones Verifica que en /boot este lo que debe estar Reinstala el gestos de arranque. Correcto, sí señor, es un Proliant. No estoy desanimado del todo (aún, je-je). Sólo un poco. Creo que me lleváis por buen camino. Este es el /etc/fstab de la máquina física ... # file system mount point type options dump pass proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/mapper/maquina--fisica-root / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 /boot ext3defaults0 2 /dev/mapper/ maquina--fisica -swap_1 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/hda/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 Y este es el /etc/fstab de la máquina virtual ... # file system mount point type options dump pass proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/mapper/maquina--fisica-root / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/sda1 /boot ext3defaults0 2 /dev/mapper/ maquina--fisica -swap_1 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/hda/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 Por el contenido de fdisk -l ... /dev/sda: 256 MB (...) /dev/sda1 (...) /dev/sdb: 146.5 GB (...) /dev/sdb1 (...) ... estoy casi seguro de que el disco / está en /dev/sdb1 y /boot en /dev/sda1, por lo cual modifico /etc/fstab para hacerlo coincidir con ello ... # file system mount point type options dump pass proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/sdb1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/sda1 /boot ext3defaults0 2 #/dev/mapper/ maquina--fisica -swap_1 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/hda/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 Como no sé qué hacer con la swap voy a probar comentándo esa línea. ¿Así estaría bien el /etc/fstab? Sin embargo si hago ls -l /dev/maquina-fisica/ ... (...) root - /dev/mapper/ maquina--fisica-root (...)
RE: Redireccionar con .htaccess
¿Puedo hacer de alguna forma (con .htaccess o con los sites-enabled de apache2) que http://subdominio.dominio.com vaya a http://www.dominio.com/nivel/pagina.php? Es decir, de un subdominio a una página concreta que no es index. Lo que quiero evitar es tener que crear el falso /nivel/ con un redirect de html dentro. ¿Es esto posible? ¿Cómo? Pues con los virtualhost de apache quizás te sirva. Defines un virtualhost, por ejemplo /etc/apache2/sites-available/subdominio y dentro pones algo como (fíjate en los ejemplos de apache) VirtualHost ip.publica.que.tengas DocumentRoot /donde/tengas/la/pagina/que/quieres/mostrar ServerName subdominio.dominio.com ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/subdominio.error.log CustomLog /var/log/apache2/subdominio.access.log combined TransferLog /var/log/apache2/subdominio.access.log /VirtualHost Te ha faltado poner el Redirect / http://www.dominio.com/nivel/pagina.php ahi dentro, y seguramente quitar tantos logs, total para una redirección :) Eeeequelicua. Esto es exactamente lo que andaba buscando. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/00bd01cc954c$e9348c50$bb9da4f0$@yahoo.es
RE: Virtualizar Debian Lenny en VMware
Ahora voy a hacer tres cosas que no hacía antes: La primera es desmontar /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 antes de montar /dev/sda1, porque si no he visto que me aparecen las dos como montadas en /boot cuando ejecuto mount, y eso es imposible. La segunda es cd /boot Creo que te refieres a esto con lo de chroot al directorio donde el instalador ... (en realidad estoy por el 'Recovery Mode', no en 'Instalación Gráfica', pero supongo que da igual). La tercera es, tras el cd /boot ejecutar /usr/sbin/grub-install --root- directory=/ /dev/sda1 (creo que serían estos parámetros) como me aconsejas en lugar de un apt-get install --reinstall grub Ahora os cuento ... Pues este último comando me devuelve ... /dev/sda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. Así que vuelvo al apt-get install --reinstall grub, que me devuelve ... (...) Unpacking replacement grub ... Setting up grub (0.97-27-etch1) ... Supongo que se ha hecho correctamente. 'exit' - 'Modo Rescate - Reiniciar el Sistema' para comprobarlo ... Error loading operating system Seguimos igual. -- Veo que estas intentando virtualizar una maquina procedente de un proliant cd HP sobre un ESXi te digo que lo he hecho un monton de veces así que no te desanimes. Veo que en la maquina física tenias un sistema de volúmenes lógicos, que están mapeados, cuando se virtualiza se suelen perder los volumenes lógicos (a mi me ha pasado sobre todo con Red Hat que siempre crea volúmenes lógicos y siempre se pierden, con debian no recuerdo si he virtualizado o no algo con VL.) verifica que respuesta de mount es correcta, pues el te lee el fichero /etc/mtab que puedeno ser correcto si se quedo grabado en la virtualización, comprueba en /dev que es lo que existe, es imposible que exista /dev/cciss pues eso es el dispositivo raid hardware de los proliant, tamvien puedes usar fdisk -l /dev/sda para ver que estructura hay en el disco. Si se ha mantenido la estructura de VL recuerda que no se puede arrancar de una partición lógica, el /boot que estar en otro disco o en una partición fisica. Si todo esta correcto (incluido el contenido de /boot) pero no te arranca sera un problema del gestor de arranque ejecuta grub-install --recheck /dev/sda (o el disco que sea) teniendo en cuenta que: Tienes que poner el --recheck para que se de cuenta que ha cambiado la estructura de discos y no intente instalarlo en un lugar erróneo. El grub tiene un fichero de configuración que debes de retocar (/boot/grub/menu.lst) o si no sabes, cuando tengas todos los discos montados puedes probar dpkg-reconfigure grub o dpkg --purge grub; apt- get install grub (si haces esto ultimo asegúrate de tener acceso a internet, pues lo vas a borrar). En definitiva Verifica que todo esta montado bien (incluido el /proc) Verifica cuales pueden ser tus discos y su estructura de particiones Verifica que en /boot este lo que debe estar Reinstala el gestos de arranque. Correcto, sí señor, es un Proliant. No estoy desanimado del todo (aún, je- je). Sólo un poco. Creo que me lleváis por buen camino. Este es el /etc/fstab de la máquina física ... # file system mount point type options dump pass proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/mapper/maquina--fisica-root / ext3 defaults,errors=remount- ro 0 1 /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 /boot ext3defaults0 2 /dev/mapper/ maquina--fisica -swap_1 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/hda/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 Y este es el /etc/fstab de la máquina virtual ... # file system mount point type options dump pass proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/mapper/maquina--fisica-root / ext3 defaults,errors=remount- ro 0 1 /dev/sda1 /boot ext3defaults0 2 /dev/mapper/ maquina--fisica -swap_1 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/hda/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 Por el contenido de fdisk -l ... /dev/sda: 256 MB (...) /dev/sda1 (...) /dev/sdb: 146.5 GB (...) /dev/sdb1 (...) ... estoy casi seguro de que el disco / está en /dev/sdb1 y /boot en /dev/sda1, por lo cual modifico /etc/fstab para hacerlo coincidir con ello ... # file system mount point type options dump pass proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/sdb1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/sda1 /boot ext3defaults0 2 #/dev/mapper/ maquina--fisica -swap_1 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/hda/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 Como no sé qué hacer con la swap voy a probar comentándo esa línea. ¿Así estaría bien el /etc/fstab? Sin embargo si hago ls -l /dev/maquina-fisica/ ...
Re: Problema con vsftpd on squeeze sparc
El Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:18:50 -0600, Roberto José Blandino Cisneros escribió: (...) root@nfs:/var/log# ftp -p -v -d localhost Connected to localhost. 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection ftp Ostras... es un bug: [sparc] 421 Service not available and disconnects users http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=630387 ¿Ves como era importante que te conectaras en local? ;-) Ese bug es para i386, en mi caso sucede en sparc, pero de igual forma lleva siempre a que está relacionado a la arquitectura. Tienes que leer con más calma :-) El bug *es específico* para el paquete de la arquitectura sparc, es decir, la tuya. Prueba instalando la versión que sugieren (2.3.4-1) a ver si sigue fallando. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.14.05...@gmail.com
Re: chiste del día RESUELTO
El Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:38:59 +0200, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio escribió: El 27/10/11 22:09, Nicolas Bevilacqua escribió: On 27/10/11 16:32, Nicolas Bevilacqua wrote: On 27/10/11 07:43, Gerardo Diez wrote: (...) Encontré esto que quizás te funcione. http://kdubois.net/?p=553 Saludos, Nicolás. Lo modifiqué un poco y abajo esta el resultado :-), solo hay que agregarlo al crontab e indicarle a thunderbird/icedove que tome la firma del archivo de texto que genera el script. Saludos, Nicolás. Muchas gracias, he usado esta opción, De nada, me alegra que te haya servido ;-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.14.10...@gmail.com
Re: Error en Nautilus
El Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:56:47 +0200, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS escribió: Tengo que añadir en el asunto que tambien me sucede lo mismo con los accesos en el escritorio. El problema es que si quiero entrar en mi equipo, papelera, Red ... Me sale un mensaje de error: No se pudo mostrar trash (Equipo, Red ...) El archivo es de un tipo desconocido y por mas que busco en google no encuentro la solución. En varios hilos se indica que hay que instalar gvfs-backends, pero este archivo ya lo tenía instalado, lo reinstalé pero sigue sin funcionar. Si buscas en Google por el mensaje en inglés, aparece esto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1698960 Mira a ver si te sirve pero OJO, leelo con calma porque lo he visto así por encima y no sé hasta qué punto es correcto... sugiere renombrar /usr/ local para iniciar con uno limpio lo cual no sé hasta qué punto es buena idea :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.14.24...@gmail.com
sobre MRTG (como hacer para ver 1 grafico por fila )
Hola lista, alguien sabe como hacer para que el MRTG con RRD y el .cgi de mrtg-rdd muestre en el index 1 grafico por fila en lugar de 2 columnas por fila? No se si me explico, osea por defecto genera 2 columnas y un grafico en cada una de ellas y asi sucesivamente con X cantidad de graficos, routers, etc. Busque en la documentacion oficial pero no dice mucho al respecto, se me hace la idea de que tengo que modificar el .cgi que genera el index puede ser? (en realidad no genera, si no que lee creo.) Gracias de antemano, saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1319813790.98711.yahoomail...@web125414.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
matar un debian a la mala.
Estimados, resulta que quiero renunciar y decir chaoo jefe en la oficina. por lo tanto necesito de su sabiduría para matar mi pc con debían conozco el comando pero nunca lo eh tipiado en un terminal así que la duda la tengo. además si ustedes saben de algo sutil y bello para hacerlo me gustaría mucho que me ayudaran.- pd= matar pc es borrar todo.- pd= comando # rm -Rf / = sera cierto que lo hace.- Gracias totales.-?¡ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaac4cf.3060...@linuxmail.org
Re: matar un debian a la mala.
El 10/28/2011 12:05 PM, Francisco Bravo Andrade escribió: Estimados, resulta que quiero renunciar y decir chaoo jefe en la oficina. por lo tanto necesito de su sabiduría para matar mi pc con debían conozco el comando pero nunca lo eh tipiado en un terminal así que la duda la tengo. además si ustedes saben de algo sutil y bello para hacerlo me gustaría mucho que me ayudaran.- pd= matar pc es borrar todo.- pd= comando # rm -Rf / = sera cierto que lo hace.- Gracias totales.-?¡ Yo utilizaría dd desde un live... ¿tan mal te vas de ese trabajo? -- Santiago López Denazis Open your source, open your mind. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaacb10.2020...@gmail.com
Re: matar un debian a la mala.
El día 28 de octubre de 2011 12:05, Francisco Bravo Andrade francisc@linuxmail.org escribió: Estimados, resulta que quiero renunciar y decir chaoo jefe en la oficina. por lo tanto necesito de su sabiduría para matar mi pc con debían conozco el comando pero nunca lo eh tipiado en un terminal así que la duda la tengo. además si ustedes saben de algo sutil y bello para hacerlo me gustaría mucho que me ayudaran.- pd= matar pc es borrar todo.- pd= comando Es en serio la pregunta? Ya esto marca niveles extremos de estupidez, ya rayando lo delictual. No creo que este sea el lugar para preguntar esto. Si lo prefieres busca un manual, estúdialo y asuma solo. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAiZAx5_se5=hGPkfy78xKji72zYN7p_O82R079C=u1gohy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: matar un debian a la mala.
El 28 de octubre de 2011 10:35, Francisco Bravo Andrade francisc@linuxmail.org escribió: Estimados, resulta que quiero renunciar y decir chaoo jefe en la oficina. por lo tanto necesito de su sabiduría para matar mi pc con debían conozco el comando pero nunca lo eh tipiado en un terminal así que la duda la tengo. además si ustedes saben de algo sutil y bello para hacerlo me gustaría mucho que me ayudaran.- pd= matar pc es borrar todo.- pd= comando # rm -Rf / = sera cierto que lo hace.- Gracias totales.-?¡ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaac4cf.3060...@linuxmail.org WTF? #ForeverSinTrabajoAlone -- Orlando E. Nuñez A. Telefono: 04263609858
Re: matar un debian a la mala.
El Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:05:51 -0300, Francisco Bravo Andrade escribió: resulta que quiero renunciar y decir chaoo jefe en la oficina. por lo tanto necesito de su sabiduría para matar mi pc con debían conozco el comando pero nunca lo eh tipiado en un terminal así que la duda la tengo. además si ustedes saben de algo sutil y bello para hacerlo me gustaría mucho que me ayudaran.- pd= matar pc es borrar todo.- pd= comando # rm -Rf / = sera cierto que lo hace.- Podrá recuperar los datos con alguna herramienta como Photorec. Ejecuta un formateo a bajo nivel con las utilidades del fabricante del disco duro o busca alguna aplicación que se encargue de dejar irrecuperables los datos del disco, como dban o similares. Ahora bien, me parece una auténtica canallada además de ser denunciable :- ( Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.16.09...@gmail.com
Re: matar un debian a la mala.
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xxx Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:05:51 -0300, Francisco Bravo Andrade escribió: resulta que quiero renunciar y decir chaoo jefe en la oficina. por lo tanto necesito de su sabiduría para matar mi pc con debían conozco el comando pero nunca lo eh tipiado en un terminal así que la duda la tengo. además si ustedes saben de algo sutil y bello para hacerlo me gustaría mucho que me ayudaran.- pd= matar pc es borrar todo.- pd= comando # rm -Rf / = sera cierto que lo hace.- Podrá recuperar los datos con alguna herramienta como Photorec. Ejecuta un formateo a bajo nivel con las utilidades del fabricante del disco duro o busca alguna aplicación que se encargue de dejar irrecuperables los datos del disco, como dban o similares. Ahora bien, me parece una auténtica canallada además de ser denunciable :- ( Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.16.09...@gmail.com
Re: Problema con vsftpd on squeeze sparc
2011/10/28 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:18:50 -0600, Roberto José Blandino Cisneros escribió: (...) root@nfs:/var/log# ftp -p -v -d localhost Connected to localhost. 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection ftp Ostras... es un bug: [sparc] 421 Service not available and disconnects users http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=630387 ¿Ves como era importante que te conectaras en local? ;-) Ese bug es para i386, en mi caso sucede en sparc, pero de igual forma lleva siempre a que está relacionado a la arquitectura. Tienes que leer con más calma :-) El bug *es específico* para el paquete de la arquitectura sparc, es decir, la tuya. Prueba instalando la versión que sugieren (2.3.4-1) a ver si sigue fallando. Probado, y sigue igual. Tiene que ver con la arquitectura. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.14.05...@gmail.com -- === Busque y Encuentre http://www.clasificados.com.ni -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFGTKagTAxEbvcn0jxW=OX7Z5XK46b_SO=skh4g4vqndpkl...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Problema con vsftpd on squeeze sparc
El Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:55:39 -0600, Roberto José Blandino Cisneros escribió: 2011/10/28 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: Ostras... es un bug: [sparc] 421 Service not available and disconnects users http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=630387 ¿Ves como era importante que te conectaras en local? ;-) Ese bug es para i386, en mi caso sucede en sparc, pero de igual forma lleva siempre a que está relacionado a la arquitectura. Tienes que leer con más calma :-) El bug *es específico* para el paquete de la arquitectura sparc, es decir, la tuya. Prueba instalando la versión que sugieren (2.3.4-1) a ver si sigue fallando. Probado, y sigue igual. Pues añade esta información en el bug que te he enviado para que el encargado del paquete lo sepa. Tiene que ver con la arquitectura. Pues claro que tiene que ver con la arquitectura. El paquete para sparc es el que falla. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.17.01...@gmail.com
Re: matar un debian a la mala.
El 28/10/11 13:53, Teu escribió: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xxx Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:05:51 -0300, Francisco Bravo Andrade escribió: resulta que quiero renunciar y decir chaoo jefe en la oficina. por lo tanto necesito de su sabiduría para matar mi pc con debían conozco el comando pero nunca lo eh tipiado en un terminal así que la duda la tengo. además si ustedes saben de algo sutil y bello para hacerlo me gustaría mucho que me ayudaran.- pd= matar pc es borrar todo.- pd= comando # rm -Rf / = sera cierto que lo hace.- Podrá recuperar los datos con alguna herramienta como Photorec. Ejecuta un formateo a bajo nivel con las utilidades del fabricante del disco duro o busca alguna aplicación que se encargue de dejar irrecuperables los datos del disco, como dban o similares. Ahora bien, me parece una auténtica canallada además de ser denunciable :- ( Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.16.09...@gmail.com Hasta el momento nada sutil y bello, filo borro mi cuenta y aires nuevos. a los talentosos le sobran ventanas abiertas para entrar.- Gracias totales.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaae5b1.5060...@linuxmail.org
Re: matar un debian a la mala.
El Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:26:09 -0300, Francisco Bravo Andrade escribió: Hasta el momento nada sutil y bello, filo borro mi cuenta y aires nuevos. a los talentosos le sobran ventanas abiertas para entrar.- Es que no hay nada de bello en destruir un sistema operativo :-/ Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.17.39...@gmail.com
Re: matar un debian a la mala.
El 28/10/11 14:39, Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:26:09 -0300, Francisco Bravo Andrade escribió: Hasta el momento nada sutil y bello, filo borro mi cuenta y aires nuevos. a los talentosos le sobran ventanas abiertas para entrar.- Es que no hay nada de bello en destruir un sistema operativo :-/ Saludos, Tienes toda la razón perdón. borrare mis datos personales solamente y la ira enfocarla en otra cosa mas productiva.- gracias nuevamente.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaaed38.2080...@linuxmail.org
Re: Error en Nautilus
El día 28 de octubre de 2011 16:24, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:56:47 +0200, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS escribió: Tengo que añadir en el asunto que tambien me sucede lo mismo con los accesos en el escritorio. El problema es que si quiero entrar en mi equipo, papelera, Red ... Me sale un mensaje de error: No se pudo mostrar trash (Equipo, Red ...) El archivo es de un tipo desconocido y por mas que busco en google no encuentro la solución. En varios hilos se indica que hay que instalar gvfs-backends, pero este archivo ya lo tenía instalado, lo reinstalé pero sigue sin funcionar. Si buscas en Google por el mensaje en inglés, aparece esto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1698960 Mira a ver si te sirve pero OJO, leelo con calma porque lo he visto así por encima y no sé hasta qué punto es correcto... sugiere renombrar /usr/ local para iniciar con uno limpio lo cual no sé hasta qué punto es buena idea :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.14.24...@gmail.com Lo extraño de mi caso, es que no es solo la papelera, de repente dejaron de funcionar los accesos en cairo-dock (stack) a las carpetas de Nautilus, el logout y shortcuts, pero sin embargo puedo entrar en Nautilus desde esta barra pero tan solo como navegador de carpetas. Tampoco funciona el acceso a Red (siempre desde nautilus) y por último, por el momento, la instalación de paquetes .deb con Gdebi escogidos desde el menú contextual. Dejo de funcionar todo a la vez. Un saludo -- Octavio Ávalos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cac+uy7ge8hbddpt1g+wn0pbdwjq_fizhu98sx3dv9if_ufo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Error en Nautilus
El Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:00:08 +0200, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS escribió: El día 28 de octubre de 2011 16:24, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:56:47 +0200, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS escribió: Tengo que añadir en el asunto que tambien me sucede lo mismo con los accesos en el escritorio. El problema es que si quiero entrar en mi equipo, papelera, Red ... Me sale un mensaje de error: No se pudo mostrar trash (Equipo, Red ...) El archivo es de un tipo desconocido y por mas que busco en google no encuentro la solución. En varios hilos se indica que hay que instalar gvfs-backends, pero este archivo ya lo tenía instalado, lo reinstalé pero sigue sin funcionar. Si buscas en Google por el mensaje en inglés, aparece esto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1698960 Mira a ver si te sirve pero OJO, leelo con calma porque lo he visto así por encima y no sé hasta qué punto es correcto... sugiere renombrar /usr/ local para iniciar con uno limpio lo cual no sé hasta qué punto es buena idea :-? Lo extraño de mi caso, es que no es solo la papelera, de repente dejaron de funcionar los accesos en cairo-dock (stack) a las carpetas de Nautilus, el logout y shortcuts, pero sin embargo puedo entrar en Nautilus desde esta barra pero tan solo como navegador de carpetas. Tampoco funciona el acceso a Red (siempre desde nautilus) y por último, por el momento, la instalación de paquetes .deb con Gdebi escogidos desde el menú contextual. Dejo de funcionar todo a la vez. Octavio... en ese mismo hilo de los foros de Ubuntu que te he puesto indican un enlace a otro foro de Fedora donde otro usuario tiene problemas muy parecidos a los que mencionas (le dejan de funcionar algunos applets, le aparecen los errores de la papelera, la red y equipo al acceder a nautilus...) en fin, que le eches un vistazo detenidamente y si lo estimas conveniente pues haces las pruebas que dicen a ver si te soluciona algo. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=229185 P.S. Recuerda que hagas lo que hagas *nunca borres* los archivos o las carpetas, es mejor moverlos a otro lado. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.20.12...@gmail.com
Re: Error en Nautilus
El 28/10/11 17:12, Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:00:08 +0200, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS escribió: El día 28 de octubre de 2011 16:24, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:56:47 +0200, J. OCTAVIO AVALOS escribió: Tengo que añadir en el asunto que tambien me sucede lo mismo con los accesos en el escritorio. El problema es que si quiero entrar en mi equipo, papelera, Red ... Me sale un mensaje de error: No se pudo mostrar trash (Equipo, Red ...) El archivo es de un tipo desconocido y por mas que busco en google no encuentro la solución. En varios hilos se indica que hay que instalar gvfs-backends, pero este archivo ya lo tenía instalado, lo reinstalé pero sigue sin funcionar. Si buscas en Google por el mensaje en inglés, aparece esto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1698960 Mira a ver si te sirve pero OJO, leelo con calma porque lo he visto así por encima y no sé hasta qué punto es correcto... sugiere renombrar /usr/ local para iniciar con uno limpio lo cual no sé hasta qué punto es buena idea :-? Lo extraño de mi caso, es que no es solo la papelera, de repente dejaron de funcionar los accesos en cairo-dock (stack) a las carpetas de Nautilus, el logout y shortcuts, pero sin embargo puedo entrar en Nautilus desde esta barra pero tan solo como navegador de carpetas. Tampoco funciona el acceso a Red (siempre desde nautilus) y por último, por el momento, la instalación de paquetes .deb con Gdebi escogidos desde el menú contextual. Dejo de funcionar todo a la vez. Octavio... en ese mismo hilo de los foros de Ubuntu que te he puesto indican un enlace a otro foro de Fedora donde otro usuario tiene problemas muy parecidos a los que mencionas (le dejan de funcionar algunos applets, le aparecen los errores de la papelera, la red y equipo al acceder a nautilus...) en fin, que le eches un vistazo detenidamente y si lo estimas conveniente pues haces las pruebas que dicen a ver si te soluciona algo. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=229185 P.S. Recuerda que hagas lo que hagas *nunca borres* los archivos o las carpetas, es mejor moverlos a otro lado. Saludos, Ah mi me paso algo semejante en ubuntu 11.04 nautilus no funcionaba adecuado. no me preocupe por rana de ubuntu respalde y cambie a fedora solucionado.- claro esto es cómodo por la sencilla razón de que era pc escritorio.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eab166c.9020...@linuxmail.org
Re: Redireccionar con .htaccess
Y si hace un redirect 301 en el .htaccess? Enviado desde mi iPhone El 28/10/2011, a las 02:38 a.m., Gorka gorkali...@yahoo.es escribió: ¿Puedo hacer de alguna forma (con .htaccess o con los sites-enabled de apache2) que http://subdominio.dominio.com vaya a http://www.dominio.com/nivel/pagina.php? Es decir, … de un subdominio a una página concreta que no es index. Lo que quiero evitar es tener que crear el falso /nivel/ con un redirect de html dentro. ¿Es esto posible? ¿Cómo? Pues con los virtualhost de apache quizás te sirva. Defines un virtualhost, por ejemplo /etc/apache2/sites-available/subdominio y dentro pones algo como (fíjate en los ejemplos de apache) VirtualHost ip.publica.que.tengas DocumentRoot /donde/tengas/la/pagina/que/quieres/mostrar ServerName subdominio.dominio.com ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/subdominio.error.log CustomLog /var/log/apache2/subdominio.access.log combined TransferLog /var/log/apache2/subdominio.access.log /VirtualHost Te ha faltado poner el Redirect / http://www.dominio.com/nivel/pagina.php ahi dentro, y seguramente quitar tantos logs, total para una redirección :) Eeeequelicua. Esto es exactamente lo que andaba buscando. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/00bd01cc954c$e9348c50$bb9da4f0$@yahoo.es -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a09be0ef-7bb4-41c1-a9b7-9fd3188d2...@gmail.com
TROLL
Hola gente, e visto que se nombra mucho a los Troll, pero que pasa acaso no existe ningun Morlok?? La verdad es que yo estoy intentando aprender linux y no tengo la capacidad que otros, ni encuentro bien el rumbo, y busque ingresar a esta lista para pedir ayuda, pero todo lo que pude ver cuantos Trolls hay. Pero ningun Morlock existe para guiar, solo quiero tener mi sistema debian squeeze funcionando casi tan estable como slackware, si alguien me puede ayudar a conseguir info, desde ya muchas gracias, pues me canse de leer y releer los FAQ HowTo y demas de debian, pero ni los man me ayudan frente a los cuelgues de mi hermoso KDE4. Y ni hablar sobre los errores del inicio mi /var/log/boot -- Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: Setting console screen modes. Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: ^[]R^[[9;30]^[[14;30]Skipping font and keymap setup (handled by console-setup). Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: Setting up console font and keymap...done. Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: Recovering nvi editor sessions...none found. Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: Setting kernel variables ...done. Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: Setting sensors limits. Sat Oct 29 00:31:06 2011: INIT: Entering runlevel: 2 Sat Oct 29 00:31:06 2011: Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 2. Sat Oct 29 00:31:06 2011: Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:06 2011: Starting enhanced syslogd: rsyslogd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:06 2011: Starting polipo: polipo. Sat Oct 29 00:31:07 2011: Enabling additional executable binary formats: binfmt-support. Sat Oct 29 00:31:07 2011: Starting system message bus: dbus. Sat Oct 29 00:31:07 2011: Starting ACPI services Sat Oct 29 00:31:07 2011: Starting Hardware abstraction layer: hald. Sat Oct 29 00:31:09 2011: Starting network connection manager: NetworkManager. Sat Oct 29 00:31:10 2011: Starting GNOME Display Manager: gdm. Sat Oct 29 00:31:11 2011: Not starting K Display Manager (kdm); it is not the default display manager.. Sat Oct 29 00:31:11 2011: Starting anac(h)ronistic cron: anacron. Sat Oct 29 00:31:11 2011: Starting deferred execution scheduler: atd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:11 2011: Saved ALSA mixer settings detected; aumix will not touch mixer. ... ^[[33m(warning).^[ [39;49m Sat Oct 29 00:31:12 2011: Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon: avahi-daemon. Sat Oct 29 00:31:13 2011: Starting ClamAV virus database updater: freshclam. Sat Oct 29 00:31:14 2011: Starting periodic command scheduler: cron. Sat Oct 29 00:31:15 2011: Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:17 2011: Starting dictionary server: dictd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:17 2011: Starting MTA:/etc/default/linux-igd not configured: linux-igd not running Sat Oct 29 00:31:18 2011: Starting irmp3: irmp3. Sat Oct 29 00:31:18 2011: exim4. Sat Oct 29 00:31:18 2011: ALERT: exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail system possibly b roken ... ^[[31mfailed!^[[39;49m Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: Starting kerneloops: Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: Starting remote control daemon(s) : LIRC :. Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: Loading cpufreq kernel modules...done (none). Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: Starting inputlirc Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: CPUFreq Utilities: Setting ondemand CPUFreq governor...disabled, governor not availabl e...done. Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation Sat Oct 29 00:31:20 2011: Starting netfilter userspace log daemon: ulogd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:20 2011: Starting Linux Video Disk Recorder: vdr - aborted (to enable the daemon, edit /etc/def ault/vdr). Sat Oct 29 00:31:20 2011: Starting VirtualBox kernel modules. Sat Oct 29 00:31:21 2011: Starting FTP server: vsftpd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:21 2011: vtun disabled, please adjust the configuration to your needs ... ^[[31mfailed!^[[39;49 m Pero realmente no se ven los errores de udev, luego de hacer un #dpkg-reconfigure udev **habiendo echo los cambios en /etc/udev/rules.d/55-hdplalalal y en el 56-hdplalala** pase los SYSFS por ATTRS como me lo pide el inicio pero no hay cambios y en ningun lugar aparece nada, en los IRC de debian nadie responde, no se si es porque todos saben demasiado y esto es muy tonto como para no resolverlo...o realmente a nadie le paso y nunca les pasara. Desde ya muchas gracias por haber perdido su tiempo leyendo este mail. -- [:]
Re: TROLL
Si el problema es el inicio de kde tienes que checar primero el error que te marca del kdm verifica que sea el default para que pueda inicializar correctamente. Primero lo primero Saludos cordiales, Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel -Original Message- From: mordoc zero mordocz...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:47:40 To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: TROLL Hola gente, e visto que se nombra mucho a los Troll, pero que pasa acaso no existe ningun Morlok?? La verdad es que yo estoy intentando aprender linux y no tengo la capacidad que otros, ni encuentro bien el rumbo, y busque ingresar a esta lista para pedir ayuda, pero todo lo que pude ver cuantos Trolls hay. Pero ningun Morlock existe para guiar, solo quiero tener mi sistema debian squeeze funcionando casi tan estable como slackware, si alguien me puede ayudar a conseguir info, desde ya muchas gracias, pues me canse de leer y releer los FAQ HowTo y demas de debian, pero ni los man me ayudan frente a los cuelgues de mi hermoso KDE4. Y ni hablar sobre los errores del inicio mi /var/log/boot -- Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: Setting console screen modes. Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: ^[]R^[[9;30]^[[14;30]Skipping font and keymap setup (handled by console-setup). Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: Setting up console font and keymap...done. Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: Recovering nvi editor sessions...none found. Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: Setting kernel variables ...done. Sat Oct 29 00:31:05 2011: Setting sensors limits. Sat Oct 29 00:31:06 2011: INIT: Entering runlevel: 2 Sat Oct 29 00:31:06 2011: Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 2. Sat Oct 29 00:31:06 2011: Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:06 2011: Starting enhanced syslogd: rsyslogd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:06 2011: Starting polipo: polipo. Sat Oct 29 00:31:07 2011: Enabling additional executable binary formats: binfmt-support. Sat Oct 29 00:31:07 2011: Starting system message bus: dbus. Sat Oct 29 00:31:07 2011: Starting ACPI services Sat Oct 29 00:31:07 2011: Starting Hardware abstraction layer: hald. Sat Oct 29 00:31:09 2011: Starting network connection manager: NetworkManager. Sat Oct 29 00:31:10 2011: Starting GNOME Display Manager: gdm. Sat Oct 29 00:31:11 2011: Not starting K Display Manager (kdm); it is not the default display manager.. Sat Oct 29 00:31:11 2011: Starting anac(h)ronistic cron: anacron. Sat Oct 29 00:31:11 2011: Starting deferred execution scheduler: atd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:11 2011: Saved ALSA mixer settings detected; aumix will not touch mixer. ... ^[[33m(warning).^[ [39;49m Sat Oct 29 00:31:12 2011: Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon: avahi-daemon. Sat Oct 29 00:31:13 2011: Starting ClamAV virus database updater: freshclam. Sat Oct 29 00:31:14 2011: Starting periodic command scheduler: cron. Sat Oct 29 00:31:15 2011: Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:17 2011: Starting dictionary server: dictd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:17 2011: Starting MTA:/etc/default/linux-igd not configured: linux-igd not running Sat Oct 29 00:31:18 2011: Starting irmp3: irmp3. Sat Oct 29 00:31:18 2011: exim4. Sat Oct 29 00:31:18 2011: ALERT: exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail system possibly b roken ... ^[[31mfailed!^[[39;49m Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: Starting kerneloops: Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: Starting remote control daemon(s) : LIRC :. Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: Loading cpufreq kernel modules...done (none). Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: Starting inputlirc Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: CPUFreq Utilities: Setting ondemand CPUFreq governor...disabled, governor not availabl e...done. Sat Oct 29 00:31:19 2011: Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation Sat Oct 29 00:31:20 2011: Starting netfilter userspace log daemon: ulogd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:20 2011: Starting Linux Video Disk Recorder: vdr - aborted (to enable the daemon, edit /etc/def ault/vdr). Sat Oct 29 00:31:20 2011: Starting VirtualBox kernel modules. Sat Oct 29 00:31:21 2011: Starting FTP server: vsftpd. Sat Oct 29 00:31:21 2011: vtun disabled, please adjust the configuration to your needs ... ^[[31mfailed!^[[39;49 m Pero realmente no se ven los errores de udev, luego de hacer un #dpkg-reconfigure udev **habiendo echo los cambios en /etc/udev/rules.d/55-hdplalalal y en el 56-hdplalala** pase los SYSFS por ATTRS como me lo pide el inicio pero no hay cambios y en ningun lugar aparece nada, en los IRC de debian nadie responde, no se si es porque todos saben demasiado y esto es muy tonto como para no resolverlo...o realmente a nadie le paso y nunca les pasara. Desde ya muchas gracias por haber perdido su tiempo leyendo este mail. -- [:]
Re: SSH och OpenVPN
On 2011-10-18 12.58, Jeremiah Foster wrote: 2011/10/18maillist.pe...@home.se: Hej! Jag försöker sätta upp OpenVPN mellan min Debian-server och JoliOS som körs under VirtualBox på Windows XP. Port 443 är det enda jag kan använda på JoliOS/XP och det är på den port som OpenVPN-servern på Debian lyssnar. Egentligen behöver jag bara SSH-access, men då port 22 inte är öppen tänkte jag försöka med OpenVPN. You can tell ssh to listen on port 443 if you want. Note that you cannot have another daemon listening on that port then, like a web server. För ssh, SSL och openvpn finns det faktiskt lösningar för att dela port (dock lyssnar de inte inte samtidigt på porten, det är mer en sorts proxylösning) Se http://www.rutschle.net/tech/sslh.shtml /Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaa8dbe.8050...@alfredsson.org
Re: Alguma forma mais rápida para ler um arq texto sequencial em bash
Só para concluir este assunto. Removi do meu script a parte do while read SQUID_LINHA ; do...done que embora fosse sequencial e com uma tacada só me proporcionava analise de quase todo tipo de acesso e separação por usuario - era lento pra danado ! Com mais de 12h, o negócio não terminava. Bem, o que fiz ? parei de fazer a leitura sequencial, usei um 'awk' para pegar todos os usuarios contidos no log e depois um grep para pegar usuario por usuario e refiz a saída usando outra sintaxe do 'awk' formatando o resultado, resultado ? O tempo caiu para 11min, por isso AWK rocks ! E só leva 11min porque tem um grep no meio que remove do log acessos considerados de livre acesso e leva 9min! senão seria tudo em 2min. Só preciso conhecer melhor essa ferramenta porque olhando a sintaxe sem saber o que faz parece código alienigena. []'s a todos. Em 21 de outubro de 2011 16:50, hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com escreveu: Olha é muito dificil eu não usar um pipe, pegar o primeiro parametro assim : PARAM_DATA_UNIXTIME=${SQUID_LINHA%% *} Eu já uso a bastante tempo, mas não há como pegar o segundo parametro, terceiro,... dessa forma, eu tenho que fatiar o relatorio colunado do squid e despachar para outro arquivo aquilo que for importante. Quando meu script chegou a esse laço while já passou pelos greps da vida que eliminaram efemeridades que não me interessavam. SQUIDLOG=/var/log/squid3/access.log FINISH=$(wc -l $SQUIDLOG|cut -d -f1) STARTING=0 while read SQUID_LINHA ; do STARTING=$((STARTING+1)) PERC=$((STARTING*100/$FINISH)) PARAM_DATA_UNIXTIME=`echo $SQUID_LINHA|cut -d -f 1` PARAM_DATA_UNIXTIME=`expr $PARAM_DATA_UNIXTIME-10800|bc` PARAM_DATA=`date +%d-%m-%Y+%H:%M -d 1970-01-01 $PARAM_DATA_UNIXTIME sec` if [ $PARAM_DATA = $DATA_DESEJADA ] ; then PARAM_DURACAO=`expr $SQUID_LINHA|cut -d -f 2` DURACAO_SEGUNDOS=$[PARAM_DURACAO/100] PARAM_DURACAO=`date +%H:%M:%S -d 1970-01-01 $DURACAO_SEGUNDOS sec` PARAM_CLIENTE=`expr $SQUID_LINHA|cut -d -f 3` PARAM_RESULTADO=`expr $SQUID_LINHA|cut -d -f 4` PARAM_BYTES=`expr $SQUID_LINHA|cut -d -f 5` PARAM_METODO_REQUISITADO=`expr $SQUID_LINHA|cut -d -f 6` PARAM_URL=`expr $SQUID_LINHA|cut -d -f 7` PARAM_LOGIN=`expr $SQUID_LINHA|cut -d -f 8` PARAM_HIERARQUIA_CODIGO=`expr $SQUID_LINHA|cut -d -f 9` PARAM_MIME=`expr $SQUID_LINHA|cut -d -f 10` ... blablabla fi done $SQUIDLOG Na realidade eu perco muito tempo na filtragem, o log do squid tem vários dias armazenados, mas se eu quiser pegar os dados do dia 20-10-2011, e os logs contém arquivos desde o dia 15 então tenho que avançar 5 dias linha-a-linha para finalmente chegar aonde eu desejo. Isso tem sido uma tortura para mim pq mesmo apenas o while read SQUID_LINHA ; do ... done já demora bastante até chegar o dia 20. Eu precisava dum jeito mais rápido. Eu tô pesando seriamente em facilitar o meu lado por mudar as configurações do squid só para não ter que converter o formato unixdate e realizar um grep mantendo apenas a data desejada. Daí a velocidade aumentaria bastante, a questão é que se eu alterar o formato original do squid, nunca mais vou poder usar algum programa analizador de logs que houverem para ele. []'s Em 21 de outubro de 2011 15:32, Paulino Kenji Sato pks...@gmail.comescreveu: 2011/10/21 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com: Ola pessoal, Eu tenho uma rotina dentro dum batch que reformata e audita o que desejo no arquivo de log do squid, porém a medida que o log do squid aumenta torna-se insustentável o tempo para ler este arquivo Será que há algum outro algorítimo ou função que poderia usar para melhor a performance ? Reescreva isso em awk, perl ou python, ou outra linguagem de sua preferencia, e não use system('cut -d -f'); O problema do seu script e que faz muito fork, chamando programas externos, como o cut e ou wc. O cut -d -f 1 pode ser feito em bash, assim: PARAM_DATA_UNIXTIME=${SQUID_LINHA%% *} Paulino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/camm-fmjccgdw3pbunyyjsowyrgaf-_k9_ev6p_urg3qgdo_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Ambiente gráfico minimo.
Experimente o LXDE. Elegante, leve e extremamente rápido. Usa GTK+, então tem uma certa semelhança com o Gnome. -- Márcio H. Parreiras GNU/Linux Professional +55(31)9632-0320 Pedro Leopoldo - MG - Brazil Faça a mudança: http://makethemove.net/; Livre-se dos vírus e outras ameaças digitais: http://www.debian.org/; . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cacxsyoybsxt8hzx_nmbvqlsod-jj3p46isharbm-beno5mc...@mail.gmail.com
Ambiente gráfico minimo.
Boa tarde a todos da lista. Estou encaminhando esta mensagem para agradecer a todos da lista que me ajudaram, estou seguindo os conselhos dado e no momento testando o gnome-core, que a primeira vista esta sendo tudo que eu procurava. Mais uma vez agradeço a todos e tenha um ótimo final de semana. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaad277.8030...@gmail.com
Re: Ambiente gráfico minimo.
Uso wmaker numa máquina bem velhinha (k6-II- 550) e ne um note meia boca http://packages.debian.org/pt/squeeze/wmaker http://www.windowmaker.info/ Brinde: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=62050 #solução_para_o_lance_da_wireless_não_funfar :) Inteh, Em 28 de outubro de 2011 11:58, Márcio H. Parreiras m...@mhp.eti.brescreveu: Experimente o LXDE. Elegante, leve e extremamente rápido. Usa GTK+, então tem uma certa semelhança com o Gnome. -- Márcio H. Parreiras GNU/Linux Professional +55(31)9632-0320 Pedro Leopoldo - MG - Brazil Faça a mudança: http://makethemove.net/; Livre-se dos vírus e outras ameaças digitais: http://www.debian.org/; . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cacxsyoybsxt8hzx_nmbvqlsod-jj3p46isharbm-beno5mc...@mail.gmail.com -- == ..:Luiz Paulo Colombiano:.. Contra Negantem Principia Non Est Disputandum Graduando Eng Elétrica - Unifacs Linux User # 415937 Lattes:http://lattes.cnpq.br/9789604686994795 O possível só é atingível através da tentativa de se atingir o impossível. Karl Liebcknecht
Re: laptop wireless setup, wpa_supplicant.conf, driver ipw not supported? CLI only
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:43:08 +0100 Raf Czlonka r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote: [] There's no need to run wpa_supplicant by hand - it integrates nicely with ifupdown. You can simply put: iface eth0 inet dhcp wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf into your /etc/network/interfaces (add wpa-debug-level 3 if you're having problems) and use ifupdown. [] I am doing it differently and it is complex. 1. I have following at /etc/rc.loacl ` ` ` ` wpa_supplicant -B -Dnl80211 -iwlan0 -c /usr/local/etc/my.wpa_supplicant.conf ` ` ` ` and at /etc/network/interfaces I have ` ` ` ` mapping wlan0 script guessnet-ifupdown map default: office-wifi map office-wifi open unknown map timeout: 12 # map init-time: 12 # for slow drivers map verbose: true map debug: true iface office-wifi inet dhcp test wireless mac 00:1C:F0:3D:4C:C9 post-up /root/bin/FIREWALL start # if all else fails: pick an open network iface open inet dhcp test wireless open wireless-essid any wireless-mode auto ` ` ` ` How can I remove the wpa related entry from rc.local and add directly at /etc/interfaces ? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028113410.12ce6...@shiva.selfip.org
Fetchmail certificate problem
With the following fetchmail config: poll protocol imap: no dns # port 993 user johann.sp...@alterit.co.za js here password xxx # ssl # sslcertck# Check the certificates # sslcertpath /etc/ssl/certs # Path to the certificates fetchall mda formail -s /usr/bin/procmail -f- -d js@localhost I get this error message: fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: self signed certificate fetchmail: This means that the root signing certificate (issued for /C=US/ST=Someprovince/L=Sometown/O=none/OU=none/CN=localhost/emailAddress=webaster@localhost) is not in the trusted CA certificate locations, or that c_rehash needs to be run on the certificate directory. For details, please see the documentation of --sslcertpath and --sslcertfile in the manual page. fetchmail: Warning: the connection is insecure, continuing anyways. (Better use --sslcertck!) But I get my email. Changing it to uncomment sslcertck and sslcertpath /etc/ssl/certs I get this: fetchmail: Server CommonName mismatch: localhost != alterit.co.za fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: self signed certificate fetchmail: This means that the root signing certificate (issued for /C=US/ST=Someprovince/L=Sometown/O=none/OU=none/CN=localhost/emailAddress=webaster@localhost) is not in the trusted CA certificate locations, or that c_rehash needs to be run on the certificate directory. For details, please see the documentation of --sslcertpath and --sslcertfile in the manual page. 140204723410600:error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed:s3_clnt.c:1059: fetchmail: alterit.co.za: upgrade to TLS failed. fetchmail: Unknown login or authentication error on johann.sp...@alterit.co.za fetchmail: socket error while fetching from johann.sp...@alterit.co.za fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET) In this case fetching the email fails. The service provider sent me a certificiate which I did put in the path referred to in the configuration but it did not solve the problem. How can I solve this problem? Regards Johann -- Johann SpiesTelefoon: 021-808 4699 Databestuurder / Data manager Sentrum vir Navorsing oor Evaluasie, Wetenskap en Tegnologie Centre for Research on Evaluation, Science and Technology Universiteit Stellenbosch. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028061946.ga15...@sun.ac.za
Re: Getting sound working
On 28/10/2011 01:09, Harry Putnam wrote: Celejarcele...@gmail.com writes: [...] Run a mixer (e.g., alsamixer) and check to make sure nothing's muted and that the volumes are set to reasonable levels. Egad, that was it, alsamixer showed the volume being really low. OK now I've got sound and happily listing to wbez One thing I don't see is a way to increase/decrease sound in the separate speakers. Only seems possible to increase/decrease both at once. in the attached screen grab, starting from the left. 1 and 3 are the only columns that have any effect and either of those turns both speakers up/down together. Using F6 allows one to pick the sound card...`default' shows only one column and `Intel ICH5' (as in the screen shot) shows several columns but only the two mentioned above actually seem to do anything. Fortunately my speakers each have there own amp and consequent volume setting. But shouldn't I be able to adjust that kind of stuff in the mixer? IMHO alsamixer your friend in many on-board-sound-cards weirdness issues. From alsamixer help (press H in alsasmixer to get all other keyboard shortcuts): Q W E Increase left/both/right volumes Z X C Decrease left/both/right volumes You can only set left/right volume if the soundcard supports it for that channel. This usually doesn't work e.g. for master, it usually does for PCM. You can easily test out which channels support stereo with the above keys. Ciao, Lorenzo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaa55bb.6000...@libero.it
Re: Debian on Nokia N900?
Victor Nitu, 27.10.2011: Hi there, Nokia released some time ago some smartphones using a Debian-based OS, which they called Maemo. I was wondering if anybody on this list had any previous experience with the N900, trying to setup a vanilla Debian system. The arch used would be armel, and I guess the original phone software (well, the important pieces) can still be installed via apt-pinning from the Maemo repositories. Ask the debian-arm list too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028072253.ga13...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Debian on Nokia N900?
On 10/28/2011 10:22 AM, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: Ask the debian-arm list too. Thanks. I'm on my way. Kind regards, Victor
Re: Dual monitor setup
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 01:49:23AM +0100, Raf Czlonka wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 07:51:02AM BST, Johann Spies wrote: I tried to check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. But it's not there. Why is there no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, then what configuration file is the X using? I dont't know and would also like to know. Since quite a while back, X.org Xserver, shipped with Debian and other distributions, doesn't require xorg.conf file - it uses auto-detection. You can still use xorg.conf however, and for dual monitor setup it might be a better idea to create one. This seems to come up time and time again. I wonder if it would be sensible for Debian to create a dummy xorg.conf file that just said something like: # By default, X.org autodetects hardware so configuration is usually # not necessary. If, however, you need to override the autodetection, # you can add the relevant Sections to this file. That way, all the documentation on the internet that says add this to your xorg.conf should still make sense to newbies. -- Darac Marjal signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: laptop wireless setup, wpa_supplicant.conf, driver ipw not supported? CLI only
On Thu 27 Oct 2011 at 17:42:18 -0700, kei...@strucktower.com wrote: BUT... I had actually tried the wext driver as well...and it had failed with this output: root@eve:~# wpa_supplicant -Dwext -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -ieth0 -d Initializing interface 'eth0' conf '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' driver If the wireless interface is indeed eth0 there could be lots of debugging ahead of us. If not . As Raf Czlonka has already said, using /etc/network/interfaces and its integration with wpa_supplicant is the way to go. You do not even need a wpa_supplicant.conf file. iface eth0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid myssid wpa-psk passphrase should give a working setup. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028084624.GA16524@desktop
Re: Fetchmail certificate problem
Johann Spies jsp...@sun.ac.za wrote: I get this error message: fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: self signed certificate fetchmail: This means that the root signing certificate (issued for /C=US/ST=Someprovince/L=Sometown/O=none/OU=none/CN=localhost/emailAddress=webaster@localhost) is not in the trusted CA certificate locations, or that c_rehash needs to be run on the certificate directory. For details, please see the documentation of --sslcertpath and --sslcertfile in the manual page. fetchmail: Warning: the connection is insecure, continuing anyways. (Better use --sslcertck!) But I get my email. It looks like your Internet Mail Provider (IMP) is offering TLS with a self-signed certificate. So fetchmail is correctly warning you that the certificate provides no confirmation of identity and little assurance of security. Changing it to uncomment sslcertck and sslcertpath /etc/ssl/certs In this case fetching the email fails. This is correct. Have you read the fetchmail documentation for the sslcertck option? The service provider sent me a certificiate which I did put in the path referred to in the configuration but it did not solve the problem. How can I solve this problem? What's the problem you're documenting? - your IMP hasn't got a trusted certificate? (IMO there's really little excuse for this.) - your IMP doesn't know what it's doing? (Is C=US/ST=Someprovince/L=Sometown/... really what's in the certificate? If so, I'd look elsewhere. Seriously.) - you don't understand why fetchmail's complaining at you? (See above.) - you've put some certificate somewhere and it doesn't work? (If you accept your IMP's root certificate then you are trusting them for everything. If it's just the braindead self-signed certificate then you have a chance of keeping your security intact. But you do need to do more than just put the certificate in the /etc/ssl/certs directory - read fetchmail's sslcertpath documentation.) Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2g7qn8xn98@news.roaima.co.uk
RE: CA Issues
Hi first sorry for the HTML the output from the output of ls -l /root/CA/* is -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1419 cacert.pem -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 index.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 887 key.pem drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 newcerts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2110 openssl.cnf drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 private -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 875 req.pem -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3 serial ls -l /root/CA/private* produces: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 963 cakey.pem I am using http://www.eclectica.ca/howto/ssl-cert-howto.php as my template To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: noela...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CA Issues Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:13:37 + On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:33:46 +, Paddy Tollan wrote: (please, avoid using html formatted messages) Hi I am trying to generate a self signed CA certificate for a debian mail server I am able to start the process but when it comes to signing the certificate eg running the command openssl ca -out cert.pem -config ./openssl.cnf -infiles req.pem I get the error msg error opening CA private key CA/private/cakey.pem no such file or directory error opening private key the directory and file is there at /root/CA/private/cakey.pem so not sure what to do to fix this any help valued i am using the file at this website as my base http://www.eclectica.ca/howto/ssl-cert-howto.php Are you using the suggested openssl.cnf file as template? What's the output of ls -l /root/CA/*? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.27.15.13...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/snt142-w3112d032ba3f2cb236cfc3ab...@phx.gbl
Icedove attachments
Hi, I am having problems with *.jpg and *.pdf attachments in icedove. Some open some don't, i use okular for the pdf's but sometimes icedove asks me to save the file, which i don't want to do. The preferences are set up correctly. -- Cheers Mark Debian Squeeze 6.0.3 amd64, KDE 4.4.5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eaa7dd4.6040...@gmail.com
Re: Debian on Nokia N900?
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 09:22:53AM +0200, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: Nokia released some time ago some smartphones using a Debian-based OS, which they called Maemo. I was wondering if anybody on this list had any previous experience with the N900, trying to setup a vanilla Debian system. I have a N900 and did setup Debian using the Maemo provided packages. I could even run openoffice on my N900 in the Debian environment. I removed it again as it used up a lot of space and was a bit slow. See http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian Regards Johann -- Johann SpiesTelefoon: 021-808 4699 Databestuurder / Data manager Sentrum vir Navorsing oor Evaluasie, Wetenskap en Tegnologie Centre for Research on Evaluation, Science and Technology Universiteit Stellenbosch. Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved. Psalms 55:22 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028101149.ga3...@sun.ac.za
RE: Fetchmail certificate problem
From: jsp...@sun.ac.za [..] fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: self signed certificate fetchmail: This means that the root signing certificate (issued for /C=US/ST=Someprovince/L=Sometown/O=none/OU=none/CN=localhost/emailAddress=webaster@localhost) is not in the trusted CA certificate locations, or that c_rehash needs to be run on the certificate directory. For details, please see the documentation of --sslcertpath and --sslcertfile in the manual page. fetchmail: Warning: the connection is insecure, continuing anyways. (Better use --sslcertck!) [..] fetchmail: Server CommonName mismatch: localhost != alterit.co.za This might still cause a problem when you get the certificate working. The service provider sent me a certificiate which I did put in the path referred to in the configuration but it did not solve the problem. /etc/ssl/certs is a managed location (yes, I know, not strictly FHS compliant). You need to put the certificate in /usr/local/share/ca-certificates (from memory, please double-check with the ca-certificates documentation) and re-run update-ca-certificates. Regards, Arno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/snt108-w61bac6cecc26fdfd7c4122b8...@phx.gbl
Re: laptop wireless setup, wpa_supplicant.conf, driver ipw not supported? CLI only
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 09:46:25AM BST, Brian wrote: As Raf Czlonka has already said, using /etc/network/interfaces and its integration with wpa_supplicant is the way to go. You do not even need a wpa_supplicant.conf file. You don't, for simple setup that is indeed enough. If you have several wireless networks you can keep your interfaces file tidy and organised, not to mention that roaming mode won't work without wpa_supplicant.conf file. iface eth0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid myssid wpa-psk passphrase I also recommend actual PSK rather than passphrase. man wpa_passphrase. Regards, -- Raf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028113626.ga23...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: laptop wireless setup, wpa_supplicant.conf, driver ipw not supported? CLI only
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:36:26 +0100 Raf Czlonka r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 09:46:25AM BST, Brian wrote: As Raf Czlonka has already said, using /etc/network/interfaces and its integration with wpa_supplicant is the way to go. You do not even need a wpa_supplicant.conf file. You don't, for simple setup that is indeed enough. If you have several wireless networks you can keep your interfaces file tidy and organised, not to mention that roaming mode won't work without wpa_supplicant.conf file. iface eth0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid myssid wpa-psk passphrase I also recommend actual PSK rather than passphrase. man wpa_passphrase. Regards, I am doing it differently and it is complex. 1. I have following at /etc/rc.loacl ` ` ` ` wpa_supplicant -B -Dnl80211 -iwlan0 -c /usr/local/etc/my.wpa_supplicant.conf ` ` ` ` and at /etc/network/interfaces I have ` ` ` ` mapping wlan0 script guessnet-ifupdown map default: office-wifi map office-wifi open unknown map timeout: 12 # map init-time: 12 # for slow drivers map verbose: true map debug: true iface office-wifi inet dhcp test wireless mac 00:1C:F0:3D:4C:C9 post-up /root/bin/FIREWALL start # if all else fails: pick an open network iface open inet dhcp test wireless open wireless-essid any wireless-mode auto ` ` ` ` How can I remove the wpa related entry from rc.local and add directly at /etc/interfaces ? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028171916.5921e...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: laptop wireless setup, wpa_supplicant.conf, driver ipw not supported? CLI only
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 07:04:10AM BST, J. Bakshi wrote: How can I remove the wpa related entry from rc.local and add directly at /etc/interfaces ? Please read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz - you can find all the answers there. A couple of hints: wpa-driver nl80211 wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf in /etc/network/interfaces. id_str in wpa_supplicant.conf P.S. Please send only one reply, not four exactly the same ones. -- Raf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028120731.ga24...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: Choosing a distribution (was: Just a simple query)
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:11 PM, francis picabia fpica...@gmail.comwrote: I think you read something into that which wasn't stated. I never mentioned openSUSE. You might have never used that, that's why, I guess you didn't mention. In Debian it requires only a quick couple of reboots to load the newer kernel, etc. That's a great thing. Another thing that would make me hesitant is the future of Suse. A distro which is owned by someone new every few years comes with some uncertainty. I didn't know this fact! But new persons too can handle the task smoothly provided they are perfect. I've seen comments on many mailing lists and forums of people who went through a series of distros, say any three of gentoo, ubuntu, slackware, fedora, debian, cent os, mint, before settling on one they preferred. These where often users straight from Windows. One of the easiest distro, I came to know is PCLinuxOS in this list, the list you are saying could be a little old, now a days PCLinuxOS (as someone points here too), is radically simply, simpler and more like Windows. Personally, it took me several years and a second visit to using Debian before it became my preferred distro. It can also be a question of documentation, bug handling, user community, etc. All of those things you only know by trying it out and doing immersion. You are from the technical field only so have a lot of time testing and trying other distros, but we are from other field, we need something good at this moment, like Debian/openSUSE/PCLinuxOS. When I got into Linux in 1996, searching for help in Alta Vista on Linux was always returning info on Redhat, so this became my choice. Today, it is nearly the opposite - Redhat information is barely out there. Community support and documentation is a major factor in my view. Time changes many things, many new developments incorporated(since then). On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.ukwrote: A distribution that does everything with the GUI certainly makes things easier for beginners, but I think that unless you take the plunge and become comfortable with the command line you are likely to progress only slowly. I do agree with you. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:53 AM, francis picabia fpica...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, however, if you are curious in addition to willing, the GUI front end can be educational. Change something in GUI which impacts the firewall, authentication, etc., and then look at the file system to see what files it changes and with what content. This was me with Redhat in '96 and it built knowledge I could take to Slackware, etc. I guess this must have impact on the system files, GUI too asks for authentication (as for what I know)! But more significantly, the older generation of Unix users were introduced to stuff gradually. It was like going through school, but we were introduced to each piece as it came into maturity. We were not on the web, we probably didn't have email except to other users on the same Unix system. We started with vt100-ish terminals, not any sort of Windows. We did have lots of time to experiment with shell scripting, regular expressions, awk, tricks in vi (it was called fred when I first used it) etc. This was our elementary school period we built up the basics of living and working from the command line. Even when XFree86 came along, it was a bit of research to find how to configure your particular video card, monitor, mouse, etc. with the windowing system. That was old times when email was not so common as it is now, but you have good experience. For someone starting today, there is a mountain of information to learn all at once. They have to sort out what is worth learning. I don't know how they would go about it. Of course to me it makes sense to learn it the same order it was developed, but really, a bunch of it can be forgotten (e.g. uucp). It is forgotten, today people learn only the things they require or want to work in, and that's why they take so long to grep perfection! I think it is getting to the point where more and more, only the developers (or people able to read and understand the code) will have inside knowledge on changing low level config. It is like that now for projects like Horde Webmail or Mailman. Of course, general people cannot do level of technical changes or editing such files...The general people only use the system which developers do provide them! On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Robert Blair Mason Jr. r...@verizon.netwrote: Beyond just stability and freedom, I also didn't like the openSUSE way of doing things. I find that debian's package management and system administration tools are very robust. I haven't yet had a good experience with YaST. For me it's always been slow, slightly clunky, and annoying, like when YaST settings override settings in configuration files. I
Re: Just a simple query
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: If you are truly a Linux tyro. . . . In my opinion, PCLinuxOS is one of the best distributions to start with simply because it's designed from the ground up for those coming from another OS like Windows, or who have no Linux or OS administrative experience at all. It is designed to work right out of the box. No additional work required for the most part. Administration and configuration is all through GUI utilities. You can still learn Linux on it like any other Linux distro: set up servers, firewalls, etc. PCLinuxOS afterall is still Linux underneath the flashy GUI. http://www.pclinuxos.com/ Thanks for this, seems really like Windows.
Re: Observing IP Conflicts
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 03:46:51AM BST, green wrote: Volkan YAZICI wrote at 2011-10-27 12:16 -0500: I have two servers A and B, where both knows the IP address of itself and the other. Assume A goes down (that is, A is not reachable via ping), then B temporarily takes the IP address of A via IP aliasing. I have not used it, but you might want to look at the vrrpd package. Or ucarp. I guess keepalived has been mentioned already and since you're not running a cluster it might be an overkill. Regards, -- Raf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028123651.ga24...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: how to fix dpkg error about
The answer to how to fix dpkg errors caused by faulty entries in the available file is the following see this url for the solution http://www.bitsbythepound.com/fix-dpkg-available-file-in-ubuntu-364.html Symptom: Every time an apt-get command is run, some sort of error or warning is reported stating that an available package has a corrupt version number. Cause: The ‘available’ file used by dpkg contains erroneous information or is corrupted. Solution: Rebuild the ‘available’ file. Recipe: 1. Back up current file as root do the following cp /var/lib/dpkg/available /var/lib/dpkg/available.broken 2. Delete current ‘available’ file dpgk --clear-avail 3. Rebuild ‘available’ file apt-get update then it will be ok -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028124556.ga3...@earthlink.net
bootlogd
On my up-to-date sid distro, my /var/log/boot hasn't been updated since 13 April 2011 (BOOTLOGD_ENABLE is set to Yes in /etc/default/bootlogd). This looks to be the same as Bug 624289 which was raised against the sysvinit-utils package but perhaps should have been raised against the initscripts package. I haven't been able to find any workarounds to run bootlogd at boot time and need to look at my boot data so I would be interested to know if there any alternatives to bootlogd. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j8e78r$lma$1...@tuscan2.grantura.co.uk
Re: Getting sound working
Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it writes: Q W E Increase left/both/right volumes Z X C Decrease left/both/right volumes You can only set left/right volume if the soundcard supports it for that channel. This usually doesn't work e.g. for master, it usually does for PCM. You can easily test out which channels support stereo with the above keys. Ahh, yes I see.. works for PCM. Sorry I hadn't investigated far enough before posting. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87lis5s17b@newsguy.com
Re: Software Raid, recovery after drive broke
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 06:12:37PM BST, Tom H wrote: I'm sorry that I've confused you. I was just pointing out that the demarcation line between mdraid and dmraid isn't as straightforward as you made it out to be because mdadm (which is an mdraid tool) can be used to manage dmraid arrays. You hadn't confused me :^) I've never claimed it cannot. The difference is quite substantial though: dmraid DESCRIPTION dmraid discovers block and software RAID devices (eg, ATARAID) by using multiple different metadata format handlers which support various formats (eg, Highpoint 37x series). It offers activating RAID sets made up by 2 or more discovered RAID devices, display properties of devices and sets (see option -l for supported metadata formats). Block device access to activated RAID sets occurs via device-mapper nodes /dev/mapper/RaidSetName. RaidSetName starts with the format name (see -l option) which can be used to access all RAID sets of a specific format easily with certain options (eg, -a below). mdadm is for kernel software RAID and can handle *any* block device, no underlying RAID required whatsoever. Regards, -- Raf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028135057.ga24...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: iptables limitations
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 06:39:42PM BST, Jim Pazarena wrote: I have been using debian as a border router, and using iptables to drop connections to various IPs which hit my honeypot. I am wondering, if there is a point where too many iptables rules impede the speed of the network? How many drops can I entertain, before I should look at some other method of firewall blocking? It shouldn't matter. Set your default policy to DROP and allow only the ones you need. Regards, -- Raf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028135343.gb24...@linuxstuff.pl
How to listen to abel prize lectures of 2007 in iceweasel. lectures are in mp4 format but are not opening even with vlc installed
I am trying to listen to some Abel Prize math lectures the urls are located on these pages http://www.abelprisen.no/en/multimedia/2004/index.html I cannot listen to the lectures by atiyah, bismut singer or witten or http://www.abelprisen.no/en/multimedia/2007/index.html or http://www.abelprisen.no/en/multimedia/2005/index.html# on the pages it says All videos are MPEG4 (mp4) viewable by means of the free QuickTime (v.6.5) application. Most videos are available in three qualities: double ISDN (112kbs), ADSL1 (384kbs) og ADSL2 (768kbs). note the more recent lectures such as 2011 are available and fully watchable on the web page. I have vlc installed but when i click on the lecture i get a black box in the left upper quadrant of the screen and no video. when i right click and say show controls then it shows the controls and says idle but does not give me a forward button to play it. thanks Mitchell Laks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028135732.gb3...@earthlink.net
Re: Getting sound working
Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes: [...] If you still have KDE installed... use the Kmixer - it should be under the Multimedia section of Klauncher (your menu) - or you can start it using:- $ kmix It'll appear in the systray - right-click on it, Show Mixer Window = Mixer = Settings = Configure Kmix - tick Dock in SystemTray (to make show in systemtray the default setting). None of that happens here.. Apparently, as seems sort of usual for this install, there is some problem. `kmix' from the command line appears to do nothing whatever. Nothing appears in system area on bottom right of bottom panel. From Menu = Settings = SystemSettings = Multimedia you can set up your default profiles for different sound usage. Thanks, on mouse hover it says Multimedia contains 3 items: Audio CDs CDDB Retrieval Phonon When opened and pressing phonon I see many settings for the sound device. Thanks for that. Hint: Menu = Help is a good place to start. All the nifty stuff shown there does not happen for me. aptitude shows it installed but broken. iB kmix - volume control and mixer Using the menus like: click the big K, then slide right one item in the bottom horizontal list of main headings to `applications'/then up to `Multimedia'/ scroll down to `soundmixer' (kmix) Pressing that gives me a tiny bouncing happy face (or maybe it is supposed to be a speaker) with sound waves emanating from it. It bounces for something like 20/30 seconds, then disappears. Again, nothing appears in system area, including in the `hidden icon' section. However, I am able to make all the adjustments with alsamixer, including adjusting right/lift volume, once someone posted the key combos. (That I should have found myself) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87hb2trzaa@newsguy.com
Re: How to listen to abel prize lectures of 2007 in iceweasel. lectures are in mp4 format but are not opening even with vlc installed
It looks like the problem is on the server side. Can you confirm that these specific videos can be viewed in Quicktime? John On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 09:57:32AM -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: I am trying to listen to some Abel Prize math lectures the urls are located on these pages http://www.abelprisen.no/en/multimedia/2004/index.html I cannot listen to the lectures by atiyah, bismut singer or witten or http://www.abelprisen.no/en/multimedia/2007/index.html or http://www.abelprisen.no/en/multimedia/2005/index.html# on the pages it says All videos are MPEG4 (mp4) viewable by means of the free QuickTime (v.6.5) application. Most videos are available in three qualities: double ISDN (112kbs), ADSL1 (384kbs) og ADSL2 (768kbs). note the more recent lectures such as 2011 are available and fully watchable on the web page. I have vlc installed but when i click on the lecture i get a black box in the left upper quadrant of the screen and no video. when i right click and say show controls then it shows the controls and says idle but does not give me a forward button to play it. thanks Mitchell Laks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028135732.gb3...@earthlink.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028142618.GA6784@infotech
Re: Just a simple query
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 17:56 +0530, Linux Tyro wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: If you are truly a Linux tyro. . . . In my opinion, PCLinuxOS is one of the best distributions to start with simply because it's designed from the ground up for those coming from another OS like Windows, or who have no Linux or OS administrative experience at all. It is designed to work right out of the box. No additional work required for the most part. Administration and configuration is all through GUI utilities. You can still learn Linux on it like any other Linux distro: set up servers, firewalls, etc. PCLinuxOS afterall is still Linux underneath the flashy GUI. http://www.pclinuxos.com/ Thanks for this, seems really like Windows. When you wrote about other OS I suspect you were only talking about Windwos and perhaps MacOS too. A lot of dinos like me came from QL, C64, Atari's TOS etc., so a terminal emulation based Linux is closer to what we were accustomed, than a Linux that mimicries Windows or MacOS. Perhaps you can compare oldish MacOS and the Atari's TOS, anyway, all in all your imagination is nonsense. I don't know PCLinuxOS, but I'm sure it won't work OOTB for all needs. People might read the list's archive, so please don't write such careless generalisations. I didn't read the thread, just this mail. For some people the computer is a useful tool and not a useless toy. For CNC and professional music you might choose another Linux distro, than for office and other needs. FWIW I don't like Suse, but some aspects of Suse are better than e.g. for Debian, while my favourite is Debian. Suse doesn't change the owner very often, just one time Suse was bought by Novell. I might be mistaken, but that's what I experienced. 2 Cents, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1319811644.2803.19.camel@debian
Re: gtk theme problem
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:03:43 +0200, DebianTR.WP wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 16:34 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) Anyway, what's the exact error you are experiencing (a wrong theme, a warning message)? And how can you reproduce the error (it happens when opening an application...)? When I switch to absolute This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme engine 'pixmap' is not installed. is the error I get. (Appearance Preferences, Theme tab) Mmm... have you tried by installing another theme? If you've downloaded Absolute from a site different to Debian usual repositories (i.e., it's an external package), maybe the problem is localized in that specific theme :-? When I switch back to Clearlooks, there is not an error any more. But, some applications don't use the theme. They look like as if there is not an engine nor a theme is installed. I also ran evolution, for example, from the terminal to see if it would give an error message about the theme or gtk but nothing happened. This has been discussed not so much time ago... IIRC you needed to install gnome-themes-standard, gnome-icon-theme and gnome-icon-theme- symbolic (although I still have an ugly look in some applications, like gnome-terminal, in one of my computers running wheezy). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.14.42...@gmail.com
Re: Just a simple query
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 16:20 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I didn't read the thread, just this mail. Suse Yes, I read about one point of a second mail, but I didn't read anything more. Note, people searching the archive might do the same as I did. Don't care to much about migrating from one OS to another regarding to the GUI, resp. software. Take care about hardware issues, especially about drivers that can't be redistributed regarding to GPL issues. Your hardware doesn't work with Linux? For some people this hardware might work, but they might offend the GPL. + 2 Cents, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1319812260.2803.25.camel@debian
alsa-tools update in Wheesy
Hi, I've just downloaded another batch of updates including alsa-tools. Now when I start an app I have a huge list of cant find this ect. Is there anyway I can suppress them Yer tis richard@debian:~/SDR/wsjt-rev2454$ Gowsjt jackd: no process found ** WSJT Version 9.1 r2442 , by K1JT Revision date: 2011-09-13 20:56:36 +0100 (Tue, 13 Sep 2011) Run date: Fri Oct 28 12:39:00 2011 UTC ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.front.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM front ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.surround40.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround40 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.surround51.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround41 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.surround51.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround50 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.surround51.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround51 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.surround71.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround71 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.iec958.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM iec958 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.iec958.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM spdif ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.iec958.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM spdif ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.hdmi.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hdmi ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.hdmi.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hdmi ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.CX88x.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned
Re: Broken packages............
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:25:18 +0200 Arno Schuring aelschur...@hotmail.com suggested this: Charlie (aries...@skymesh.com.au on 2011-10-27 16:35 +1100): libavcodec52: Depends: libavutil50 (4:0.6.2-99) but 5:0.7.1-0.1 is to be installed or libavutil-extra-50 (4:0.6.2-99) but it is not installable Do you have debian-multimedia in your sources.list by any chance? Or have had it? Arno I do Arno. deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free Is that a problem? Does it use an old libavutil50 package? It looks like debian-multimedia has xvidcap built against libavdevice52 which has since been replaced by libavdevice53. http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/package/xvidcap.php http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/package/libavdevice53.php If I'm right, only the DMO maintainers can fix this so I've copied that list which I hope is ok. I've used recordmydesktop to save some oreilly webcasts. You might want to try that as an alternative. -- swk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capqpkwttfvrczxjpeakzvf0g5t1zbu+wqfxptwtgc+twq76...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Just a simple query
OT: Just for entertainment. Some guys of my age might be accustomed to the Fairlight CMI's OS, based on a 68000 as the Atari is based too, but a little bit more expensive than the Atari. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5C4VF7xdcc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1319813071.2803.28.camel@debian
Re: Sharing files on a local network
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 04:39:28PM BST, Claudius Hubig wrote: SSH (Secure Shell) - you don't need security on home-only network. That at least explains the millions of bots out there. Of course you need security on a home-only network, even if it is not accessible from the internet. And given that at least the Debian box appears to have direct internet access, you should definitely care about security, especially since IPv6 is not years away anymore. You don't need security on your LAN interface. Never had I mentioned that you shouldn't have firewall on your WAN interface. Your WAN should be your firewall and if that's not sufficient enough then there's something wrong with your network setup. Obviously by not needing security I didn't mean not securing your medium and having, e.g. unencrypted wifi. Of course, and you don’t have to set up that NFS share at all, it simply appears? Please, be realistic. SSHFS is as simple as: Do I really need to mention that you still need to set something up? Nothing works without any minimal configuration. Please, be realistic. client:# apt-get install sshfs server:# apt-get install sshd client:# sshfs user@server:/dir /mountpoint That's exactly what I meant - mount per user rather than per system. It's good for users accessing their files, not necessarily for file sharing which the user mentioned. With NFS mounts you depend on the filesystem permissions and ACLs or you can kerberise it, you don't need user accounts on the server. Regards, -- Raf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028150221.ga25...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: Choosing a distribution (was: Just a simple query)
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:53:17 +0530, Linux Tyro wrote: (...) However, I have not understood the meanings of all these packages (this is what people say here), I guess, openSUSE is good to start with. While, Debian too could be a rock solid, but I don't know why I am going to try (with a Live CD) both - openSUSE as well as Debian. By trying both LiveCDs you will see how the two system look like, how they're organized and the most important part for a LiveCD: you'll can try out the hardware detection. A general con with the any Linux distro is that it needs to be learned a little to get it work perfectly. The general cons with Windows are that it is highly unsecured, easy to attack and nothing as resourceful as in Linux. The pros with any Linux system are that these are resistant to any of the viruses and highly resourceful to get out of these! Before installing Debian, I left one of my spare systems loaded with a LiveCD for some time to start getting in touch with the system (a LiveCD also allows you to install software applications, although disk space is somehow limited). At the time I installed openSUSE (2003) there was not such option called LiveCD so I had to blindly install the OS without testing it before so nowadys you have a great advantage ;-) (...) This is not a problem for a single home user because I think even if the period is of 18 months, one (here 'I') can learn at least some basics of Linux, and after 18 months can install/upgrade the newer version and then for next 18 months - again it is safe. The basic fundamental of the newer upgraded version too would remain the same as that of the one with was it got replaced, please let me know if it is like thatmean am I correct in this sense? I don't understand this :-? In openSUSE (as in other distributions) you have the chance to: 1/ Perform a full install (from scratch) 2/ Perform a mid-install (by keeping your /home partition, if available) 3/ Perform an offline upgrade (by booting from a DVD/CD install media) 4/ Perform an online upgrade (from a running system) Option 4/ has been added recently and is officialy supported when upgrading from one version to the next one (that is, you can jump from 11.3 to 11.4). And that's why I go for its trial on the coming Sunday. I wish you the best of the lucks. Feel free to come here if you finally don't find yourself confortable with openSUSE but I'm sure you will do. They also have a great and supportive user community :-) I am thankful to all of you who told the great experiences, these all are useful for me for everyone so that as a matter of generality, only the accurate facts are known. As a matter of great interest, I am sure (100%) that whatever distro (either Debian or openSUSE) I use, I am far better in the long run as compared to Windows (which I don't want to use only because of security). Choosing between openSUSE and Debian is a very easy decision: whichever you finally select you will win :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.15.24...@gmail.com
Re: How to listen to abel prize lectures of 2007 in iceweasel. lectures are in mp4 format but are not opening even with vlc installed
On 10:26 Fri 28 Oct , John L. Cunningham wrote: It looks like the problem is on the server side. Can you confirm that these specific videos can be viewed in Quicktime? I actually never thought of that! Oops - I dont run windows or mac! I will try to ask friends what they see. Thank you Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028153424.gc3...@earthlink.net
Re: Sharing files on a local network
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:46:54PM BST, Arno Schuring wrote: SSH (Secure Shell) - you don't need security on home-only network. That depends. If you're running a wireless setup, even with WPA2 protection, I'd still advise security. Let's not get paranoid - firewall + RSN should be enough on a home network. IMHO, it's not - dozens of options for both the server and client. You simply mount the NFS share and it's transparent to the system. Well, in all fairness - NFS requires that the user ids on all systems match. Forcing such a match can be quite troublesome. If we're talking about r/w access then it might be, yes. Then you'll need NIS, LDAP or Kerberos. FUSE as it name suggests is in user-space, NFS is supported in the kernel. You don't have the overhead. Overhead is peanuts :) No, not really. But for a home setup, convenience trumps performance. And besides, when's the last time that your desktop machine was pegged on CPU? I use some ancient machines, but I guess it's just me ;^) For the current situation, I'd advise sshfs. If it's integrated in Nautilus, all the better. But SSH is only point-to-point -- as soon as you're sharing files with more than 2 machines, NFS is the way to go. Thank you, that's exactly the point I was trying to get across, file access and file sharing are two different things. My 2 cents: even for Linux-only systems, there really is no satisfactory answer to the OP's question besides Samba/CIFS. All (Unix-)native solutions have their roots in enterprise (managed) networking, which implies manual setup. In terms of autodiscovery and autoconfiguration, nothing can hold a candle to the original SMB. If we're talking about file sharing, not per user access, then r/w will always be an issue, regardless of what protocol you're using, unless you don't care about security at all. Regardless of how you look at it, you'll need to set it up somehow - either a server with a user database on it (SMB, SFTP, etc.) and authenticate every time you connect to it, even if it's just for r/o access; or set up a file storage server (e.g. NFS) with minimal effort. Regards, -- Raf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028154152.ga25...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: Choosing a distribution (was: Just a simple query)
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:41:46 -0300, francis picabia wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) Maybe you think that because you see openSUSE as a transient step to finally reach Debian but it is not: openSUSE is powerful enough to fit any requirements, from the most basic to the most advanced usage so it can be used as a start point to get the user introduced into the Linux world as well as a final point, to use it on clusters and HPC systems. I think you read something into that which wasn't stated. I never mentioned openSUSE. Maybe confused with the other part of this thread? Well, this whole thread is about Debian and openSUSE so I was comparing them. My point is that many reviews go by how slick the graphics are in the installer and the desktop once installed, but this counts for very little in the overall worth of the particular distro. Yet, neophytes to Linux often go by reviews, or bandwagons. Having the possibility of managing the system from a GUI is important for newcomers (it was crucial for me who was used to windows...). What the IT press and blogger reviewers show can be sometimes biased and I guess that's one of the reasons the OP is asking for feedback here, where real users lie. (needless to say you can also perform in-situ upgrades in openSUSE) ;-) Really? Everything I've seen says it is not supported. Yes, really. It is docummented at their wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade And I personally did it on one of my systems (from 11.3 → 11.4), it worked nice. However I don't use Suse so I wouldn't be on top of the latest here. I am talking about major upgrades, like 11 to 12, not 11.3 to 11.4. For such big jumps the official supported method is using the DVD (off- line upgrade) but AFAIK, it is the same here in Debian, only one jump is supported which does not mean that you cannot upgrade from Debian 4 to Debian 6, but like openSUSE, that scenario is noy oficially supported, but still you can do it if you want :-) In Debian, the system can stay up and we don't boot from medium to perform a major upgrade. In Debian it requires only a quick couple of reboots to load the newer kernel, etc. The same remains true for openSUSE, as I said, since newer versions (IIRC, 11.3 onwards). I dropped openSUSE in favor of Debian just because they (openSUSE) reduced the security patches support period from 24 to 18 months. This wouldn't have been a problem if I were a home user that only has one computer to attend, but as an admin I need to manage servers and workstations and having to update every 18 months all the machines is not something I can support. That is pretty much like the Fedora life cycle. Yuck. Not quite. Fedora support cycle is even more limited (13 months!). Another thing that would make me hesitant is the future of Suse. A distro which is owned by someone new every few years comes with some uncertainty. That's always a risk, true. But now SuSE is a stand-alone business, no more part of Novell but a self-managed project of Attachmate. Testing other distributions can be a true headache for first time linux users... I -having using linux boxes since 2003- had to accustomed to the Debian-way system and still costs me a bit to get used to it (and I'm using Debian since 2009!). I've seen comments on many mailing lists and forums of people who went through a series of distros, say any three of gentoo, ubuntu, slackware, fedora, debian, cent os, mint, before settling on one they preferred. These where often users straight from Windows. Yes, that's the most usual path that linux users take but I'd say not for the newbies ones. Personally, it took me several years and a second visit to using Debian before it became my preferred distro. I had no compelling reasons for make the change from openSUSE to Debian (true is that I like openSUSE) but their support cycle change. But now I'm fine here, I mean, if openSUSE would back to a 24 month of relase support cycle I would think more than twice before turning back ;-) It can also be a question of documentation, bug handling, user community, etc. All of those things you only know by trying it out and doing immersion. Sure. openSUSE docs are not like Debian's one, that's for sure and they have less packages precompiled and ready to be installed, that's also true but they also have a knowledgeable user community and a nice infrastructure for developers and community users. When I got into Linux in 1996, searching for help in Alta Vista on Linux was always returning info on Redhat, so this became my choice. Today, it is nearly the opposite - Redhat information is barely out there. Community support and documentation is a major factor in my view. True! In the last days I've read a couple of comments from different users stating I was a Redhat user but I won't come back!... I wonder why O:-) Greetings,
Re: Sharing files on a local network
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 04:33:55AM BST, yudi v wrote: Samba looks like the best option as I will be adding windows clients and a solaris file server. You hadn't mentioned Windows previously. Had you provided that information at the beginning I would've suggested Samba as well. Regards, -- Raf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028155648.ga25...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: Sharing files on a local network
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 03:15:09PM BST, Camaleón wrote: SSH is still the winner, IMO: Solaris and linux include ssh client facilities and windows has WinSCP or FileZilla that allow SFTP connections. Too many 3rd party software programs required, most of them don't integrate with the rest of the system nicely or at all, e.g. explorer, cmd.exe. If you finally go for the samba alternative (which is a complete headache), just ensure to put a good (and monitored) firewall between the host -that runs samba- and the Internet... That's where SSL or SSH tunnels come in handy ;^) Regards, -- Raf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111028160146.gb25...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: Choosing a distribution (was: Just a simple query)
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:46:45 -0400, Robert Blair Mason Jr. wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:58:51 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) I'm not sure that stability and freedom were inside the novice part but anyway, openSUSE is also stable (rock solid) and cares about your freedom ;-) Beyond just stability and freedom, I also didn't like the openSUSE way of doing things. Which way you think is that? They have a very nice community plenty of helpful users and a good infrastructure. I find that debian's package management and system administration tools are very robust. Mmm, I guess yes. I haven't yet had a good experience with YaST. For me it's always been slow, Now is very fast! slightly clunky, No way! It's perfect for novices :-) and annoying, like when YaST settings override settings in configuration files. I always thought that if a user changed a config file, that meant they wanted it changed. Yes, that was true for some time... I think this has been corrected nowadys and manual editions for the config files are respected from YaST. Debian also has a much more centralized repository system (i.e. not having to add a new repo every time you want to install something). I view it as a convenience advantage - I can always add an extra repo if I want to, but for standard packages I shouldn't have to mess with that. openSUSE has a similar layout: there are the official supported repos, semi-official ones and then you have the community based repos. One of the advantadges of openSUSE for newbies and this kind of repos is that they can have a stable version of openSUSE and easily add a repo for upgrading their KDE or GNOME full environment, and this is something difficult to get in Debian (you have to run the testing branch or carefully pin the selected packages and that's not for begginers). Choose aptitude and dpkg and you can't go wrong. zypper also does a good job. So yes, I'm one to blindly point to debian :D Welcome home ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.16.02...@gmail.com
Re: Sharing files on a local network
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:01:46 +0100, Raf Czlonka wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 03:15:09PM BST, Camaleón wrote: SSH is still the winner, IMO: Solaris and linux include ssh client facilities and windows has WinSCP or FileZilla that allow SFTP connections. Too many 3rd party software programs required, most of them don't integrate with the rest of the system nicely or at all, e.g. explorer, cmd.exe. One program is too many for you? ;-) If you finally go for the samba alternative (which is a complete headache), just ensure to put a good (and monitored) firewall between the host -that runs samba- and the Internet... That's where SSL or SSH tunnels come in handy ;^) I prefer the usual way: it's easier to manage, administer and setting up. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.16.12...@gmail.com
Re: How to listen to abel prize lectures of 2007 in iceweasel. lectures are in mp4 format but are not opening even with vlc installed
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:57:32 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: I am trying to listen to some Abel Prize math lectures the urls are located on these pages http://www.abelprisen.no/en/multimedia/2004/index.html I cannot listen to the lectures by atiyah, bismut singer or witten (...) You will need a SMIL player. This is the source code for one of that links: EMBED SRC=Atiyah.smil WIDTH=1030 HEIGHT=715 TYPE=video/quicktime AUTOPLAY=true CONTROLLER=true LOOP=false PLUGINSPAGE=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/; ^^^ BTW, this is the full link: http://www.intermedia.uio.no/abelprisen04/atiyah/Atiyah.smil Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.16.17...@gmail.com
Re: CA Issues
Paddy Tollan ptol...@hotmail.com wrote: first sorry for the HTML the output from the output of ls -l /root/CA/* is [...] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2110 openssl.cnf It seems that your keyboard has run out of fullstops and commas. Can I please suggest that you get it filled up again, so that your writing becomes easier to understand. That's not the openssl.cnf available following instructions at http://www.eclectica.ca/howto/ssl-cert-howto.php#summy for download at ftp://ftp.binarytool.com/pub/linux/ssl/openssl.cnf. Even if you have copied and pasted, and included the (invalid) Begin/End labels, that should still be only 1932 bytes. Can you tell us how you have customised it? Cheers, Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/tjtqn8x18g@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: bootlogd
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:30:18 +0100, Bob Brewer wrote: On my up-to-date sid distro, my /var/log/boot hasn't been updated since 13 April 2011 (BOOTLOGD_ENABLE is set to Yes in /etc/default/bootlogd). This looks to be the same as Bug 624289 which was raised against the sysvinit-utils package but perhaps should have been raised against the initscripts package. Mmm, in wheezy it works fine, maybe because I have 2.88dsf-13.12 version for sysvinit-utils package :-? I haven't been able to find any workarounds to run bootlogd at boot time and need to look at my boot data so I would be interested to know if there any alternatives to bootlogd. /var/log/boot file is almost empty because boot messages are splitted in two separate files (kern.log for kernel messages and boot for the services part). I don't know of any alternative to bootlogd facility but at least kernel messages can be delayed for user to review them in real-time. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.28.16.32...@gmail.com