et alors là ça marche ?
Bon, si vous lisez mon message c qu'il est arrivé hein ? Finalement j'ai fait un desinscription/inscription sous une autre adresse... j'ai tout essayé mais vraiment les politiques de gestion des mails par gmail + la conf d'exim et autres...c'est pas évident. Alors si qqun a un lien pour me faire comprendre tout ça merci -- phil -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023070101.GA22564@locahost@localdomain
Re: et alors là ça marche ?
Hello, bon là je pose la question par le site des archives de debian-user-franch vu que la liste ne m'a tjrs pas renvoyé mon mail ds ma boite perso (et donc je ne l'ai pas sur mon ordi) ça met combien de temps pour la liste m'envoie le mail que je lui ai envoyé ? Merci -- phil -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023103444.GA10607@locahost@localdomain
Re: scanner Epson 3520-DWF
Le 22/10/2013 23:50, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit : Il y a aussi un lien en bas de chaque courriel que tu reçois de la liste qui pointe vers l’archive officielle pour ce courriel, ce qui permet de retrouver plus facilement les messages du même fil. J'ai fait un essai de chercher une conversation dans les archives, celle de la liste frecnh. Ca m'a renvoyé des résultats multiples et principaux en anglais. Est-il dès lors poosible d'extraire que les résultats des archives de la debian-user-french? Avez-vous un lien, que je teste ... Merci attachment: dechangydorian.vcf
Re: et alors là ça marche ?
De (from) (von) phillipe.monr...@sfr.fr : bon là je pose la question par le site des archives de debian-user-franch vu que la liste ne m'a tjrs pas renvoyé mon mail ds ma boite perso (et donc je ne l'ai pas sur mon ordi) ça met combien de temps pour la liste m'envoie le mail que je lui ai envoyé ? Bon là je ne comprend plus rien je résume. Mon FAI est sfr.fr. je suis inscrit sur debian-user-franch sous l'adresse qui est ds From:@sfr.fr. Pour centraliser mes mails je transferts le webmail de sfr vers celui de gmail où j'ai également une adresse : ***@gmail.com Pour l'instant (phase de test) je n'efface aucun mail sur ces 2 webmails. Les deux messages précédents que j'ai envoyés ne réagissent pas de la même manière ! -le premier, je l'ai envoyé de mon MUA (mutt). Il a l'air d'être arrivé sur debian-user-franch mais je n'ai pas reçu le renvoi de la liste sur le webmail de sfr.fr (et donc celui de gmail non plus). Donc mon fetchmail n'a pas pu le récupérer pour le rapatrier sur ma machine -le second (la réponse au 1er), je l'ai envoyé par les archives de debian-user-franch en cliquant sur le lien : Reply to: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org qui m'a ouvert mon mutt avec lequel j'ai fait l'envoi...Et là le message arrive à la liste et la liste me l'envoie dans mon webmail sfr (qui en fait une copie sur le webmail de gmail). Mais impossible de le rapatrier par fetchmail sur ma machine (malgré les option keep, fetchall de fetchmail). Je ne vois vraiment pas pourquoi fetchmail ne les rapatrie pas... qqun a une idée -- phil -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023112454.GA12324@locahost@localdomain
Re: scanner Epson 3520-DWF
Le mercredi 23 octobre 2013 13:16:24 Dorian Carpentier de Changy a écrit : […] J'ai fait un essai de chercher une conversation dans les archives, celle de la liste frecnh. Ca m'a renvoyé des résultats multiples et principaux en anglais. Est-il dès lors poosible d'extraire que les résultats des archives de la debian-user-french? Avez-vous un lien, que je teste ... Pas tout compris… Tu connais le mot-clef « site: » de Google ? Une recherche « toto tutu site:lists.debian.org/debian-user- french/2013/10/ » limitera les résultats… -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1826040.51D8KtNV1O@earendil
essai...
j'espère le dernier ;-) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023115645.GA15450@locahost@localdomain
Re: essai...
De (from) (von) phillipe.monr...@sfr.fr : j'espère le dernier ;-) allez un p'tit dernier pour la route -- phil -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023121205.GA18052@locahost@localdomain
conseils passage pop--imap
Bonjour, Sur mon desktop, j'ai tjrs été en pop pour la réception des mails avec la chaîne : fetchmail--procmamil--mutt Mais depuis que j'ai un smartphone android je commence à me tâter pour passer en imap car ça me semble plus logique qd on a +ieurs machines pour lire les mails. La tâche ne me semble pas insurmontable mais j'ai déjà des tas de règles procmail qui me rangent proprement mes mails sur mon desktop dans une arborescence ad-hoc assez importante et, évidemment, je voudrais conserver cette structure arborescente. D'après ce que j'ai pu comprendre, les courriers résident sur le serveur distant (gmail en l'occurrence). Mais est-il possible de faire une copie locale (sur ma machine) des mails que je veux conserver en utilisant mon procmailrc existant ? Sais pas si j'ai été très clair là... Merci pour tout retour d'expérience liens ou autres. -- Phil -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023124805.GA20859@locahost@localdomain
Re: conseils passage pop--imap
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 04:48:05PM +0400, philippe monroux wrote: Bonjour, 'lo […] Mais depuis que j'ai un smartphone android je commence à me tâter pour passer en imap car ça me semble plus logique qd on a +ieurs machines pour lire les mails. Une suggestion : moi@la:~$ aptitude show ?name(offlineimap) […] Description : outil de synchronisation IMAP/Maildir OfflineImap est un outil pour simplifier la lecture du courriel. Avec OfflineImap, il est possible de : * lire la même boîte mail depuis plusieurs ordinateurs, avec la réplication automatique des modifications (suppressions, etc.) sur toutes les machines ; * utiliser différents lecteurs de courriel pour lire la même boîte ; * lire du courriel de façon déconnectée (sur un ordinateur portable) en répliquant toutes les modifications à la reconnexion ; * lire une boîte IMAP avec un lecteur qui ne comprend pas IMAP ; * utiliser SSL (connexions chiffrées) pour lire une boîte IMAP de manière sécurisée avec un lecteur qui ne comprend pas SSL ; * synchroniser le courrier grâce à un algorithme sûr et qui tolère les erreurs ; * personnaliser quelles boîtes doivent être synchronisées avec des expressions régulières ou des listes ; * synchroniser le courriel de deux à quatre fois plus vite qu'avec d'autres outils ou les routines IMAP spécifiques des lecteurs de courriel. En bref, OfflineIMAP est un outil qui permet de lire son courriel comme on le veut. Site : http://offlineimap.org/ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023130729.ga20...@gmail.com
Re: conseils passage pop--imap
Le mercredi 23 octobre 2013 à 16:48 +0400, philippe monroux a écrit : Bonjour, Sur mon desktop, j'ai tjrs été en pop pour la réception des mails avec la chaîne : fetchmail--procmamil--mutt Mais depuis que j'ai un smartphone android je commence à me tâter pour passer en imap car ça me semble plus logique qd on a +ieurs machines pour lire les mails. oui c'est beaucoup mieux. Il y a une différence de taille avec IMAP : les mails pas vraiment sur ton client, ce n'ai qu'une vue, tous est sauvegardé coté serveur. Tu peux désinstaller ton client mail sans problèmes, tu ne perds aucun mail. La tâche ne me semble pas insurmontable mais j'ai déjà des tas de règles procmail qui me rangent proprement mes mails sur mon desktop dans une arborescence ad-hoc assez importante et, évidemment, je voudrais conserver cette structure arborescente. Il faut savoir où tu veux stocker tous tes mails ? - Est-ce que tu acceptes de mettre tous chez gmail (sachant que tu peux faire des sauvegardes sur ton pc) ? - Est-ce que tu veux conserver l'ensemble de tes mails sur ton desktop ? (est-il accessible par internet ? serveur perso ?) D'après ce que j'ai pu comprendre, les courriers résident sur le serveur distant (gmail en l'occurrence). Mais est-il possible de faire une copie locale (sur ma machine) des mails que je veux conserver en utilisant mon procmailrc existant ? offlineimap effectivement. Le plus simple c'est d'avoir un compte imap principale en ligne (serveur perso ou gmail ou autre). Ensuite tu remplis ce compte avec tes autres compte pop (ou imap aussi) avec fetchmail/procmail ou un webmail. Sinon pour créer un serveur IMAPS sur ton desktop : - Crée un maildir dans ton home commande maildirmake - installe courier-imap-ssl C'est fait ! Julien -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382537600.23218.9.camel@mousse.maison
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Bonjour, J'aurais voulut savoir si je peux faire tourner Débian 7.2 sur un pcduino donc voici les caractéristiques : A Mini PC with Arduino type Interface powered by ARM Pro Spec: CPU: 1GHz ARM Cortex A8 GPU: OpenGL ES2.0, OpenVG 1.1 Mali 400 core DRAM: 1GB Onboard Storage: 2GB Flash, SD card slot for up to 32GB Video Output: HDMI OS: Linux + Android Extension Interface: 2.54 mm Headers compatible with Arduino Network interface: RJ45 and USB WiFi Dongle Si c'est possible il faut que je prenne quelle version de Débian ? BEAUPELLET Guillaume 4 chemin de la croze 39100 BAVERANS France +33649678036 +32483437286 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/955143033.115321672.1382555898792.javamail.r...@zimbra16-e3.priv.proxad.net
Re:
Le 23/10/2013 21:18, guillaumebeaupel...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Bonsoir, J'aurais voulut savoir si je peux faire tourner Débian 7.2 sur un pcduino donc voici les caractéristiques : A Mini PC with Arduino type Interface powered by ARM Pro Spec: CPU: 1GHz ARM Cortex A8 [...] Si c'est possible il faut que je prenne quelle version de Débian ? À priori, une wheezy doit pouvoir s'installer, il existe des images non officielles pour cette cible : http://sourceforge.net/projects/debianpcduino/files/?source=navbar De plus, le cpu est un allwinner A10 et je viens d'installer une debian wheezy sur son petit frère le A13 (sur une OLinuXino Micro [1] ) mil [1] https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A13/A13-OLinuXino-MICRO/open-source-hardware BEAUPELLET Guillaume 4 chemin de la croze 39100 BAVERANS France +33649678036 +32483437286 \o/ un jurassien! Faut passer nous voir chez Sequanux à Besançon...
Re: (none)
Le Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:40:02 +0200, guillaumebeaupellet a écrit : Bonjour, J'aurais voulut savoir si je peux faire tourner Débian 7.2 sur un pcduino donc voici les caractéristiques : A Mini PC with Arduino type Interface powered by ARM Pro Spec: CPU: 1GHz ARM Cortex A8 GPU: OpenGL ES2.0, OpenVG 1.1 Mali 400 core DRAM: 1GB Onboard Storage: 2GB Flash, SD card slot for up to 32GB Video Output: HDMI OS: Linux + Android Extension Interface: 2.54 mm Headers compatible with Arduino Network interface: RJ45 and USB WiFi Dongle Si c'est possible il faut que je prenne quelle version de Débian ? BEAUPELLET Guillaume 4 chemin de la croze 39100 BAVERANS France +33649678036 +32483437286 je ne sais pas si l'ARM est compatible mais regarde Raspbian sur Raspberry Pi. http://www.raspberrypi.org/quick-start-guide Ça peut donner une piste. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52682d59$0$2396$426a7...@news.free.fr
ssh: problema autenticación usando llave privada...
Hola gente: no se si en el asunto me explico bien, pero acá va... Desde hace unos 2 años vengo haciendo una copia automatizada con rsync y crontab desde un servidor de un cliente a uno de nuestros servidores. Para hacerlo había copiado la clave generada con ssh-keygen en el servidor del cliente al authorized_keys del nuestro. Hasta hace unos 12 días no había problemas. Ahora observo que la copia estaba desactualizada, por lo que ingresé vía ssh al servidor del cliente sin problemas, pero cuando desde el servidor del cliente quiero entrar al nuestro me pide password. No logro entender que puede haber cambiado, pero tiene que ser algo en el servidor del cliente ya que al servidor nuestro otros clientes hacen las copias sin problemas. Por las dudas, eliminé el contenido de .ssh en ambos servidores, generé nuevamente las claves en cada uno y las intercambié. Desde nuestro servidor ingreso perfectamente al del cliente, pero al revés me sigue pidiendo una clave. Estoy medio desconcertado, esto es la primera vez que me pasa. Les pongo la salida del comando ssh cuando lo ejecuto en el servidor del cliente para ver si me pueden dar una mano... bksrpauto@debsr:~/.ssh$ ssh svrsw -v OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-5, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to svrsw [222.222.222.222] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/bksrpauto/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /home/bksrpauto/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/bksrpauto/.ssh/id_dsa type 2 debug1: Checking blacklist file /usr/share/ssh/blacklist.DSA-1024 debug1: Checking blacklist file /etc/ssh/blacklist.DSA-1024 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6+squeeze3 debug1: match: OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6+squeeze3 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-5 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server-client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client-server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(102410248192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'svrsw' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug1: Found key in /home/bksrpauto/.ssh/known_hosts:3 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Trying private key: /home/bksrpauto/.ssh/identity debug1: Trying private key: /home/bksrpauto/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Offering public key: /home/bksrpauto/.ssh/id_dsa debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password debug1: Next authentication method: password bksrpauto@svrsw's password: ... como ven, aparentemente reconoce las clave pero al final pide password, seguramente es algo que no estoy viendo, pero bueno, agradezco la ayuda. Saludos, -- Walter O. Dari http://swcomputacion.com/ skype: waomda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52678770.7000...@gmail.com
Re: ssh: problema autenticación usando llave privada...
Las cosas que te recomiendo que revises: 1) Verifica que en el cliente, se cumplan las siguientes condiciones: i) El HOME debe chmod ug=rwX,o= como *máximo*. Si no mal recuerdo, SSH se niega a leer una llave privada si tu HOME no cumple con esas características. ii) Tanto $HOME/.ssh como $HOME/.ssh/id_rsa deben ser legibles solo por tu usuario (chmod u=rX,go= ...). iii) Verifica que el owner:group de las carpetas anteriores sea tu usuario y tu grupo principal. En mi caso, por ejemplo, es dualbus:dualbus, una vez tuve problemas porque mi HOME era dualbus:www-data. 2) Verifica que en el servidor se cumpla: i) El HOME con los mismos permisos que el cliente, es ug=rwX,o= como máximo, el ls -ld $HOME te lo confirmará. ii) Verifica que los archivos bajo $HOME/.ssh y también ese directorio tengan los permisos restringidos como en el caso 1.ii. iii) Que la parte pública de tu llave (id_rsa.pub) esté en el archivo $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys en su propia línea. iv) Revisa que el servidor OpenSSH esté configurado para aceptar llaves (PubkeyAuthentication yes). v) Verifica lo del punto 1.iii, owner:group deben coincidir. Es lo que recuerdo ahorita de las cosas que me han pasado. -- Eduardo Alan Bustamante López signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OFF-TOPIC-teleco] Duda en descodificador Ono
El día 22 de octubre de 2013 15:48, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:31:43 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: Hola buenas tengo una duda y no sé donde comentarla. Como aquí hay grandes conocimientos, creo que podría ser una buena cuestion. El caso es que me han instalado en casa un descodificador de ONO. Concretamente este: http://redajo.com/blog/mis-primeras-48-horas-con-tivo-la-television- inteligente-de-ono/ Y por lo que he visto en la instalación, los datos de los canales y la sincronización y demás la hace via cable coaxial, es decir, por internet. Mira que yo nunca he tenido cable (no hay cobertura en mi zona) pero hombre, no hay más tu tía que TODO (Internet, TV, telefonía, radio...) vaya por el coaxial si sólo te han puesto un cable BNC. Ahora bien, el mero uso del cable coaxial no implica que el canal de transmisión sea Internet. Para CATV usarán radiofrencuencia al uso, digo yo :-? Mi pregunta es, entonces aquí la señal analógica o digital no interviene para nada en la sintonización de canales verdad?? Es decir, se recogen los canales por internet y se sirven por mp4 ya sea por conector scart o por hdmi... Hum... en IPTV me parece que es como dices, pero en CAVT tengo mis dudas. Yo diría que los servicios de Internet y TV van separados. Ay, pillín... qué querrás hacer que no dices :-) El hecho de servirlo desde el descodificador a la tele ya sea por scart o por hdmi implica modular o demodular la conexión... Siento si la pregunta es un tanto inoportuna en esta lista, pero no sé donde preguntar. Estoy mirando info y la verdad me intriga. Si nadie quiere contestar lo entenderé, no es el lugar oportuno. Por mi no hay problema, pero digo yo que mejor preguntarles a ellos que para eso les pagas ;-P Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.22.13.48...@gmail.com Jejeje muchas gracias por contestar. Me ha quedado más claro. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caj2aoa_wcowjrroaqvs02xgkt6rfik7lvxfotdcdapfvu9t...@mail.gmail.com
[OT] Accesibilidad: ¡¿Libertad 0?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hola, Hoy encontré un artículo interesante publicado por un miembro del equipo de debian-accessibility, que, aunque no es tan reciente, sería bueno que lo compartan y difundan. El artículo en cuestión es este: http://brl.thefreecat.org/ghm13.txt En realidad consiste en una transcripción de una conferencia, asi que pueden verlo en video también. Un saludo, - -- Franci -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEVAwUBUme2KbcQqmDiUAB0AQKhuggA6I7nxPTQSPnQP8smxzeM7YRq3/7upRNr mP9qdUJik8oWTZJjfO5VolY9sSLJtQhELxUa3h6bzt+3m9KWKtg8vlonQ890ZpWO Q9ujvgEXXlz45mWrAzHcmekCvlLzr8lnUw+iYNs4QNIbQX6HdZanO/kVWYwbrhmx /UP/upBku3qDE7jkx/qNgHWQOXPtoDSNmmGAHnLUus10gQkWC0coixNMBytyk4KL QFL+QH5kpcIV9LSW/wJvBwLnq4jxeprirv8bNT4uEH45PKdLexUaqKYDYONN+PR1 t0u5YUXkoiTENCuoM4mjAav6RwfoVvXh4FEAeJI8a0LRcy02E7CfoQ== =un2j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5267b629.3000...@openmailbox.org
Re: debian 7 no ejecuta lo que esta en cron.daily
El Tue, 22 Oct 2013 21:43:26 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 22/10/13 01:15, Alejandro Gabriel Sánchez Martínez escribió: Pues acabo de instalar dos debian 7 y resulta que no ejecutan lo que meto en cront.daily Yo también sospecho que no se ejecutan. Una de las muchas ventajas de la informática es que las sospechas suelen poder fundamentarse con hechos ;-) No tengo mucha idea, pero tengo un script añadido por www.linuxcounter.net para enviar a su Web la info de mi máquina que tengo registrada allí, pero la info no se actualiza... ¿Y lo has puesto en /etc/cron.daily con los permisos adecuados? Segun /var/log/syslog: Oct 22 21:12:57 debian anacron[2580]: Job `cron.daily' terminated Oct 22 21:12:57 debian anacron[2580]: Normal exit (1 job run) ^ Dice que ha ejecutado una tarea (a través de anacron), pero para consultar el syslog mejor con: root@stt008:~# grep -i daily /var/log/syslog* /var/log/syslog:Oct 23 07:31:26 stt008 anacron[2321]: Job `cron.daily' terminated /var/log/syslog.1:Oct 22 07:30:34 stt008 anacron[2273]: Job `cron.daily' terminated /var/log/syslog.1:Oct 23 07:26:09 stt008 anacron[2321]: Will run job `cron.daily' in 5 min. /var/log/syslog.1:Oct 23 07:31:09 stt008 anacron[2321]: Job `cron.daily' started /var/log/syslog.1:Oct 23 07:31:09 stt008 anacron[3425]: Updated timestamp for job `cron.daily' to 2013-10-23 Esto es lo que me aparece en una Wheezy, y sí, se ejecuta, pero recuerda que los archivos de registro rotan por lo que hay que consultar en todos ellos no sólo en el actual. y si pongo ... edurios@debian:~$ crontab -l # added by lico-update.sh version 0.3.17 6 4 * * 4 /home/edurios/lico-update.sh -m edurios@debian:~$ A ver, el cron.daily es distinto del crontab por lo que si tienes la rutina definida en el crontab tendrás que consultar en el syslog para ver si cron ha ejecutado esa tarea a la hora indicada. Si lo ejecuto a mano el comando, si va... Eso quiere decir que el script está bien programado. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.13.34...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Uso de patrones geométricos en LO
El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 02:05:40 +0200, celtictux . escribió: Yo suelo Usar GIMPresionante para este tipo de cosas: Crear mis propios patrones, o bien... importarlos o exportarlos al formato que quieras, (Incluso importa formato de Fotoshop (EPS)). (...) espero te sirva... Gracias pero esa solución no me sirve (como he ido comentando en el hilo), por eso he abierto un informe de fallo en LO ;-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.13.36...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Accesibilidad: ¡¿Libertad 0?
El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:42:33 -0300, Francisco Del Roio escribió: Hoy encontré un artículo interesante publicado por un miembro del equipo de debian-accessibility, que, aunque no es tan reciente, sería bueno que lo compartan y difundan. El artículo en cuestión es este: http://brl.thefreecat.org/ghm13.txt He optado por la versión en PDF, la encontré más inteligible debido a la extensión de la presentación. En realidad consiste en una transcripción de una conferencia, asi que pueden verlo en video también. En la página principal del sitio, sí, hay varios formatos disponibles. En cuanto a lo que se dice, pues completamente de acuerdo con los autores, la accesibilidad en Linux actualmente es una quimera y no digo que en Windows o MacOS sea perfecta pero está a años luz de nosotros :-/ Por otra parte es comprensible ya que no se trata más que de una fría cuestión de porcentajes y cuando los recursos escasean la democracia (en la que no creo en absoluto) es la primera que se resiente. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.13.54...@gmail.com
Re: ssh: problema autenticación usando llave privada...
El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 05:23:12 -0300, Walter O. Dari escribió: Desde hace unos 2 años vengo haciendo una copia automatizada con rsync y crontab desde un servidor de un cliente a uno de nuestros servidores. Para hacerlo había copiado la clave generada con ssh-keygen en el servidor del cliente al authorized_keys del nuestro. Hasta hace unos 12 días no había problemas. Ahora observo que la copia estaba desactualizada, por lo que ingresé vía ssh al servidor del cliente sin problemas, pero cuando desde el servidor del cliente quiero entrar al nuestro me pide password. (...) ... como ven, aparentemente reconoce las clave pero al final pide password, seguramente es algo que no estoy viendo, pero bueno, agradezco la ayuda. La clave (valga la redundancia) del problema la debe de tener el servidor al que quieres conectar en el archivo /var/log/auth.log, echa un vistazo. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.13.43...@gmail.com
Cliente esxi para linux
A más de uno habrá tenido el problema que se me presenta, que ya no solo administro KVM, XEN, o proxmox(KVM+OPENVZ) que lo podía hacer por web, vnc, etc. Ahora se me presenta la administración de vmware esxi, he mirado este magnifico software para probarlo: http://sourceforge.net/projects/veman/ Si alguien conoce alguno mejor, se agradece y se comparte. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caj2aoa810affbhnhzkzbexjv1-0g80e9kc-vqbacy99otup...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian 7.1 wheezy Congelado
El Tue, 22 Oct 2013 22:54:38 -0300, Juan Pablo Leiva Burgos escribió: Buenas noches. Juan Pablo, supongo que estás respondiendo a este hilo: Debian 7.1 wheezy Congelado http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2013/06/msg00665.html Como es hace unos cuantos meses (junio 2013) sería conveniente que hubieras dejado alguna referencia al texto del OP, si no todo -que tampoco era un correo tan extenso- porque de lo contrario se pierde por completo el contexto y el tema que se trata. Bueno la verdad es que he estado leyendo sus mails, y el problema parece que es producido por java, por lo que les recomendaria que instalasen la version de Oracle y testeen con libreoffice. Saludos. ATTE !? Me gustaría saber qué es lo que te ha hecho llegar a esa conclusión :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.14.22...@gmail.com
[OT] Re: Cliente esxi para linux
El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:20:57 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: A más de uno habrá tenido el problema que se me presenta, que ya no solo administro KVM, XEN, o proxmox(KVM+OPENVZ) que lo podía hacer por web, vnc, etc. Ahora se me presenta la administración de vmware esxi, he mirado este magnifico software para probarlo: http://sourceforge.net/projects/veman/ Si alguien conoce alguno mejor, se agradece y se comparte. Preguntonta: ¿VMware no tiene un cliente nativo para gestionar hypervisores? Porque lo lógico sería que una solución propia funcionara más, digamos... suavemente y tuviera mayor nivel de integración que cualquier otra aplicación de terceros ¿no? :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.14.32...@gmail.com
Re: Cliente esxi para linux
2013/10/23 Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com: A más de uno habrá tenido el problema que se me presenta, que ya no solo administro KVM, XEN, o proxmox(KVM+OPENVZ) que lo podía hacer por web, vnc, etc. Ahora se me presenta la administración de vmware esxi, he mirado este magnifico software para probarlo: http://sourceforge.net/projects/veman/ Si alguien conoce alguno mejor, se agradece y se comparte. Saludos. Buff ... No te lo recomiendo. Lo que yo hago es tirar de una vm con Win2k8r2... Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAEjQA5+j5TphVS0+DqRSakpY21YN8+eO_15TN=oaw1wdl+j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Re: Cliente esxi para linux
2013/10/23 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:20:57 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: A más de uno habrá tenido el problema que se me presenta, que ya no solo administro KVM, XEN, o proxmox(KVM+OPENVZ) que lo podía hacer por web, vnc, etc. Ahora se me presenta la administración de vmware esxi, he mirado este magnifico software para probarlo: http://sourceforge.net/projects/veman/ Si alguien conoce alguno mejor, se agradece y se comparte. Preguntonta: ¿VMware no tiene un cliente nativo para gestionar hypervisores? Porque lo lógico sería que una solución propia funcionara más, digamos... suavemente y tuviera mayor nivel de integración que cualquier otra aplicación de terceros ¿no? :-? Saludos, -- Se me olvidaba. Si tienes vSphere 5.x no et hace falta el cliente. Tienes un via web. Instala el appliance vcenter (está basado en SLES) y listos ... eso si tienes licencias :)) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caejqa5+uuez_wcih1hvmn9okezv4xlfna7zpxncnyajpgpj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Re: Cliente esxi para linux
El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:34:29 +, C. L. Martinez escribió: 2013/10/23 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:20:57 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: A más de uno habrá tenido el problema que se me presenta, que ya no solo administro KVM, XEN, o proxmox(KVM+OPENVZ) que lo podía hacer por web, vnc, etc. Ahora se me presenta la administración de vmware esxi, he mirado este magnifico software para probarlo: http://sourceforge.net/projects/veman/ Si alguien conoce alguno mejor, se agradece y se comparte. Preguntonta: ¿VMware no tiene un cliente nativo para gestionar hypervisores? Porque lo lógico sería que una solución propia funcionara más, digamos... suavemente y tuviera mayor nivel de integración que cualquier otra aplicación de terceros ¿no? :-? Se me olvidaba. Si tienes vSphere 5.x no et hace falta el cliente. Ya me parecía a mí. Tienes un via web. Espera... aquí¹ dice que necesita FlashPlayer 11.5.0 pero esa versión no existe para linux, espero que no sea un requerimiento sine qua non. Instala el appliance vcenter (está basado en SLES) y listos ... eso si tienes licencias :)) Hum... ¿vCenter no es vSphere? Qué follón, y cada vez que entro en la página web de VMware me mareo con los cambios. De verdad que compadezco a quien tenga que trabajar con los sistemas de esta empresa, que no digo que no sean buenos pero parece que cada día sacan el mismo producto con nombre distinto recortando prestaciones y aumentando el precio de sus licencias un 500% :-P ¹http://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-55/ index.jsp#com.vmware.vsphere.install.doc/GUID-CC4604E4-B9A4-40FE- B0FA-3807906AFF85.html Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.14.57...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Re: Cliente esxi para linux
El día 23 de octubre de 2013 16:34, C. L. Martinez carlopm...@gmail.com escribió: 2013/10/23 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:20:57 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: A más de uno habrá tenido el problema que se me presenta, que ya no solo administro KVM, XEN, o proxmox(KVM+OPENVZ) que lo podía hacer por web, vnc, etc. Ahora se me presenta la administración de vmware esxi, he mirado este magnifico software para probarlo: http://sourceforge.net/projects/veman/ Si alguien conoce alguno mejor, se agradece y se comparte. Preguntonta: ¿VMware no tiene un cliente nativo para gestionar hypervisores? Porque lo lógico sería que una solución propia funcionara más, digamos... suavemente y tuviera mayor nivel de integración que cualquier otra aplicación de terceros ¿no? :-? Saludos, -- Se me olvidaba. Si tienes vSphere 5.x no et hace falta el cliente. Tienes un via web. Instala el appliance vcenter (está basado en SLES) y listos ... eso si tienes licencias :)) Jajaj ese es el problema, que no tenemos licencias...Sería montar un vsphere 5.x en una maquina windows y habilitar el servicio web(teniendo la licencia) no?? Siempre he usado el cliente vmware vsphere client desde una máquina virtual windows xp pero lo hace lentísima... Me gustaría lanzar algo nativo desde linux... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caejqa5+uuez_wcih1hvmn9okezv4xlfna7zpxncnyajpgpj...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caj2aoa_ond8tevicmiuicgud6ubp1fshklqlwfai-2oaowh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Re: Cliente esxi para linux
El día 23 de octubre de 2013 16:57, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:34:29 +, C. L. Martinez escribió: 2013/10/23 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:20:57 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: A más de uno habrá tenido el problema que se me presenta, que ya no solo administro KVM, XEN, o proxmox(KVM+OPENVZ) que lo podía hacer por web, vnc, etc. Ahora se me presenta la administración de vmware esxi, he mirado este magnifico software para probarlo: http://sourceforge.net/projects/veman/ Si alguien conoce alguno mejor, se agradece y se comparte. Preguntonta: ¿VMware no tiene un cliente nativo para gestionar hypervisores? Porque lo lógico sería que una solución propia funcionara más, digamos... suavemente y tuviera mayor nivel de integración que cualquier otra aplicación de terceros ¿no? :-? Se me olvidaba. Si tienes vSphere 5.x no et hace falta el cliente. Ya me parecía a mí. Tienes un via web. Espera... aquí¹ dice que necesita FlashPlayer 11.5.0 pero esa versión no existe para linux, espero que no sea un requerimiento sine qua non. Instala el appliance vcenter (está basado en SLES) y listos ... eso si tienes licencias :)) Hum... ¿vCenter no es vSphere? Qué follón, y cada vez que entro en la página web de VMware me mareo con los cambios. De verdad que compadezco a quien tenga que trabajar con los sistemas de esta empresa, que no digo que no sean buenos pero parece que cada día sacan el mismo producto con nombre distinto recortando prestaciones y aumentando el precio de sus licencias un 500% :-P JAJAJA estoy de acuerdo contigo Camaleón. Yo cada vez que entro a descargarme el cliente, no sé ya ni cual descargar, ni cual es el servidor jajajaja ¹http://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-55/ index.jsp#com.vmware.vsphere.install.doc/GUID-CC4604E4-B9A4-40FE- B0FA-3807906AFF85.html Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.14.57...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAJ2aOA8BO6jMf7eNdiKY1_hJ=PApacd_LHNJDs1h=oanzww...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: Lightning dejó de funcional tras actualización de Thunderbird oficial
El Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:29:33 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió: El 14/10/13 10:12, Camaleón escribió: (...) Piensan sacar una actualización de Lightning esta semana, así que yo de momento prefiero esperar antes de volver a la versión anterior de Thunderbird que es lo que recomiendan desde su blog oficial: Using Lightning 2.6 on Linux? Don’t upgrade to Thunderbird 24.0.1…yet! https://blog.mozilla.org/calendar/2013/10/dont-upgrade-to- thunderbird-24-0-1-yet/ Lo que me preocupaba era haber perdido los datos del calendario y las tareas pero los he cargado en otro equipo que tengo con Windows en un Thunderbird de esos portables y se ven correctamente... ¡buf! ¡Camaleon, sos toda una detective!. Gracias por el dato. Es que me interesa... me apunté al bug de mozilla y no paraba de recibir actualizaciones sobre lo que estaban haciendo a la espera de que lo solucionaran. Y a día de hoy siguen sin sacar una versión actualizada oficial :-( Con respecto a lo que acoseja Jesusda, el archivo es un xml y en la sección de versiones dice que la máxima y mínima es la actual, es decir que está en la versión correcta. Habrá que esperar esta semana a ver qué pasa y si pueden solucionarlo. Pues he estado esperando hasta que ya me he hartado (no puedo estar una semana sin procesar las citas que me mandan en la oficina) y he instalado el archivo xpi¹ de la versión 2.6.1 que hay en la página de Lightning (ojo, no es la versión oficial porque Mozilla aún no lo ha revisado). Y aunque la documentación diga lo contrario, ese archivo xpi funciona en sistemas 64 bits y en idioma español pero no funciona con Thunderbird 24.0 sino con la 24.0.1. ¹https://addons.mozilla.org/es/thunderbird/addon/lightning/versions/2.6.1 Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.15.09...@gmail.com
Re: ssh: problema autenticación usando llave privada...
Hola... El 23/10/2013 10:45, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 05:23:12 -0300, Walter O. Dari escribió: Desde hace unos 2 años vengo haciendo una copia automatizada con rsync y crontab desde un servidor de un cliente a uno de nuestros servidores. Para hacerlo había copiado la clave generada con ssh-keygen en el servidor del cliente al authorized_keys del nuestro. Hasta hace unos 12 días no había problemas. Ahora observo que la copia estaba desactualizada, por lo que ingresé vía ssh al servidor del cliente sin problemas, pero cuando desde el servidor del cliente quiero entrar al nuestro me pide password. (...) ... como ven, aparentemente reconoce las clave pero al final pide password, seguramente es algo que no estoy viendo, pero bueno, agradezco la ayuda. La clave (valga la redundancia) del problema la debe de tener el servidor al que quieres conectar en el archivo /var/log/auth.log, echa un vistazo. Ni bien pueda lo voy a mirar y comento. Gracias y saludos, Saludos, -- Camaleón -- Walter Omar Dari http://swcomputacion.com/
Re: [OT] Re: Cliente esxi para linux
El día 23 de octubre de 2013 17:01, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 23 de octubre de 2013 16:57, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:34:29 +, C. L. Martinez escribió: 2013/10/23 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:20:57 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: A más de uno habrá tenido el problema que se me presenta, que ya no solo administro KVM, XEN, o proxmox(KVM+OPENVZ) que lo podía hacer por web, vnc, etc. Ahora se me presenta la administración de vmware esxi, he mirado este magnifico software para probarlo: http://sourceforge.net/projects/veman/ Si alguien conoce alguno mejor, se agradece y se comparte. Preguntonta: ¿VMware no tiene un cliente nativo para gestionar hypervisores? Porque lo lógico sería que una solución propia funcionara más, digamos... suavemente y tuviera mayor nivel de integración que cualquier otra aplicación de terceros ¿no? :-? Se me olvidaba. Si tienes vSphere 5.x no et hace falta el cliente. Ya me parecía a mí. Tienes un via web. Espera... aquí¹ dice que necesita FlashPlayer 11.5.0 pero esa versión no existe para linux, espero que no sea un requerimiento sine qua non. Instala el appliance vcenter (está basado en SLES) y listos ... eso si tienes licencias :)) Hum... ¿vCenter no es vSphere? Qué follón, y cada vez que entro en la página web de VMware me mareo con los cambios. De verdad que compadezco a quien tenga que trabajar con los sistemas de esta empresa, que no digo que no sean buenos pero parece que cada día sacan el mismo producto con nombre distinto recortando prestaciones y aumentando el precio de sus licencias un 500% :-P JAJAJA estoy de acuerdo contigo Camaleón. Yo cada vez que entro a descargarme el cliente, no sé ya ni cual descargar, ni cual es el servidor jajajaja ¹http://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-55/ index.jsp#com.vmware.vsphere.install.doc/GUID-CC4604E4-B9A4-40FE- B0FA-3807906AFF85.html Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.14.57...@gmail.com Ya he conseguido conectarme...Ha sido un poco piratilla pero bueno jejeje. Me instalado el vmware-workstation y le he metido una serial por ahí de esas que hay en internet, que te las dan para que las copies ejem...Le metido al licencia mediante linea de comandos y he visto que tiene un apartado para connect to remote server...Te deja conectarte a un vmware-workstation, esx o vmware center. Va genial. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAJ2aOA80xvy_u9-D=jh1oteraomoxsxew3orppk-xqyrubs...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: Lightning dejó de funcional tras actualización de Thunderbird oficial
El 23/10/13 12:09, Camaleón escribió: El Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:29:33 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió: El 14/10/13 10:12, Camaleón escribió: (...) Piensan sacar una actualización de Lightning esta semana, así que yo de momento prefiero esperar antes de volver a la versión anterior de Thunderbird que es lo que recomiendan desde su blog oficial: Using Lightning 2.6 on Linux? Don’t upgrade to Thunderbird 24.0.1…yet! https://blog.mozilla.org/calendar/2013/10/dont-upgrade-to- thunderbird-24-0-1-yet/ Lo que me preocupaba era haber perdido los datos del calendario y las tareas pero los he cargado en otro equipo que tengo con Windows en un Thunderbird de esos portables y se ven correctamente... ¡buf! ¡Camaleon, sos toda una detective!. Gracias por el dato. Es que me interesa... me apunté al bug de mozilla y no paraba de recibir actualizaciones sobre lo que estaban haciendo a la espera de que lo solucionaran. Y a día de hoy siguen sin sacar una versión actualizada oficial :-( Con respecto a lo que acoseja Jesusda, el archivo es un xml y en la sección de versiones dice que la máxima y mínima es la actual, es decir que está en la versión correcta. Habrá que esperar esta semana a ver qué pasa y si pueden solucionarlo. Pues he estado esperando hasta que ya me he hartado (no puedo estar una semana sin procesar las citas que me mandan en la oficina) y he instalado el archivo xpi¹ de la versión 2.6.1 que hay en la página de Lightning (ojo, no es la versión oficial porque Mozilla aún no lo ha revisado). Y aunque la documentación diga lo contrario, ese archivo xpi funciona en sistemas 64 bits y en idioma español pero no funciona con Thunderbird 24.0 sino con la 24.0.1. ¹https://addons.mozilla.org/es/thunderbird/addon/lightning/versions/2.6.1 Saludos, En una netbook opté por instalar Seamonkey donde la 2.6 funciona bien. En otra netbook con Kubuntu 12.04 aún no hay actualizado Thunderbird, intuyo que esperan que se solucione el problema de incompatibilidad entre Thunderbird 24.0.2 y Ligthning 2.6 Saludos -- Sergio Bessopeanetto Buenos Aires, Argentina Skype: sergio.bess -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5267efca.1080...@myopera.com
Re: OT: Lightning dejó de funcional tras actualización de Thunderbird oficial
El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:48:26 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió: El 23/10/13 12:09, Camaleón escribió: (...) Habrá que esperar esta semana a ver qué pasa y si pueden solucionarlo. Pues he estado esperando hasta que ya me he hartado (no puedo estar una semana sin procesar las citas que me mandan en la oficina) y he instalado el archivo xpi¹ de la versión 2.6.1 que hay en la página de Lightning (ojo, no es la versión oficial porque Mozilla aún no lo ha revisado). Y aunque la documentación diga lo contrario, ese archivo xpi funciona en sistemas 64 bits y en idioma español pero no funciona con Thunderbird 24.0 sino con la 24.0.1. ¹https://addons.mozilla.org/es/thunderbird/addon/lightning/ versions/2.6.1 Saludos, En una netbook opté por instalar Seamonkey donde la 2.6 funciona bien. Thunderbird 24.0 también funciona con la 2.6, pero me parecía exagerado tener que volver hacia atrás. En otra netbook con Kubuntu 12.04 aún no hay actualizado Thunderbird, intuyo que esperan que se solucione el problema de incompatibilidad entre Thunderbird 24.0.2 y Ligthning 2.6 Pues al paso que van... Aún no se sabe de quién ha sido la culpa, si de Thunderbird por cambiar la compatibilidad de los binarios sin avisar o de Lightning por no sacar una actualización al tiempo, pero lo que sí parece evidente es que hay una falta de sincronización entre ambos proyectos... una pena, la verdad. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.16.02...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Re: Cliente esxi para linux
El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:38:14 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: El día 23 de octubre de 2013 17:01, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 23 de octubre de 2013 16:57, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:34:29 +, C. L. Martinez escribió: (...) Instala el appliance vcenter (está basado en SLES) y listos ... eso si tienes licencias :)) Hum... ¿vCenter no es vSphere? Qué follón, y cada vez que entro en la página web de VMware me mareo con los cambios. De verdad que compadezco a quien tenga que trabajar con los sistemas de esta empresa, que no digo que no sean buenos pero parece que cada día sacan el mismo producto con nombre distinto recortando prestaciones y aumentando el precio de sus licencias un 500% :-P JAJAJA estoy de acuerdo contigo Camaleón. Yo cada vez que entro a descargarme el cliente, no sé ya ni cual descargar, ni cual es el servidor jajajaja Ya he conseguido conectarme...Ha sido un poco piratilla pero bueno jejeje. Me instalado el vmware-workstation y le he metido una serial por ahí de esas que hay en internet, que te las dan para que las copies ejem...Le metido al licencia mediante linea de comandos y he visto que tiene un apartado para connect to remote server...Te deja conectarte a un vmware-workstation, esx o vmware center. Va genial. Pues ahora si que ya no entiendo ná 8-) ¿VMware Workstation no es un hypervisor? ¿Un hypervisor para administrar otro hypervisor? Ay, mamita... Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.16.10...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Re: Cliente esxi para linux
El día 23 de octubre de 2013 18:10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:38:14 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: El día 23 de octubre de 2013 17:01, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 23 de octubre de 2013 16:57, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:34:29 +, C. L. Martinez escribió: (...) Instala el appliance vcenter (está basado en SLES) y listos ... eso si tienes licencias :)) Hum... ¿vCenter no es vSphere? Qué follón, y cada vez que entro en la página web de VMware me mareo con los cambios. De verdad que compadezco a quien tenga que trabajar con los sistemas de esta empresa, que no digo que no sean buenos pero parece que cada día sacan el mismo producto con nombre distinto recortando prestaciones y aumentando el precio de sus licencias un 500% :-P JAJAJA estoy de acuerdo contigo Camaleón. Yo cada vez que entro a descargarme el cliente, no sé ya ni cual descargar, ni cual es el servidor jajajaja Ya he conseguido conectarme...Ha sido un poco piratilla pero bueno jejeje. Me instalado el vmware-workstation y le he metido una serial por ahí de esas que hay en internet, que te las dan para que las copies ejem...Le metido al licencia mediante linea de comandos y he visto que tiene un apartado para connect to remote server...Te deja conectarte a un vmware-workstation, esx o vmware center. Va genial. Pues ahora si que ya no entiendo ná 8-) ¿VMware Workstation no es un hypervisor? ¿Un hypervisor para administrar otro hypervisor? Ay, mamita... Jajaja, vmware-workstation yo siempre lo he usado para crear máquinas virtuales...Pero no sabía que tenia un conector...Va de lujo os lo aseguro...Incluso he instalado pfsense diciéndole que cogiera la iso desde mi máquina local, es decir, ni si quiera he tenido que subir la iso al servidor para instalar pfsense...La caña vamos...No hay mejor cliente que uno nativo hecho por ellos desde luego...Te permite hacer todo, crear VM en remoto en esxi server, cambiarle el hardware, etc etc. Me parece muy interesante poder usar vmware-workstation para esto y lo mejor de todo no chupa más que un 3% de CPU. Saludos. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.16.10...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caj2aoa-huaowz_zgize_abvkytwyx6zstunj-nn2dyj6rnt...@mail.gmail.com
CD/DVD se ha perdido.
Buenas tardes. Se me ha perdido la lectograbadora de CD/DVD. (No físicamente) Hace una semana que han desaparecido los dispositivos /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd No es problema de cables, y lo verifiqué; anda bien cuando inicio con un live-CD. Es como que no existiese la lectograbadora para el sistema. /etc/fstab está armado así: # Discos auxiliares /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 Mi sistema jessie Linux jap 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ lspci | grep SATA 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 4 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 05) lshw no muestra ninguna lectorabadora. No he encontrado nada en Google que me ayude; los únicos problemas son de personas que no pueden montar discos, no que hayan perdido los dispositivos. Si alguno tiene idea, agradezco de antemano. JAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5268051d.4060...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Re: Cliente esxi para linux
El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:15:43 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: El día 23 de octubre de 2013 18:10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Ya he conseguido conectarme...Ha sido un poco piratilla pero bueno jejeje. Me instalado el vmware-workstation y le he metido una serial por ahí de esas que hay en internet, que te las dan para que las copies ejem...Le metido al licencia mediante linea de comandos y he visto que tiene un apartado para connect to remote server...Te deja conectarte a un vmware-workstation, esx o vmware center. Va genial. Pues ahora si que ya no entiendo ná 8-) ¿VMware Workstation no es un hypervisor? ¿Un hypervisor para administrar otro hypervisor? Ay, mamita... Jajaja, vmware-workstation yo siempre lo he usado para crear máquinas virtuales...Pero no sabía que tenia un conector...Va de lujo os lo aseguro...Incluso he instalado pfsense diciéndole que cogiera la iso desde mi máquina local, es decir, ni si quiera he tenido que subir la iso al servidor para instalar pfsense...La caña vamos...No hay mejor cliente que uno nativo hecho por ellos desde luego...Te permite hacer todo, crear VM en remoto en esxi server, cambiarle el hardware, etc etc. Me parece muy interesante poder usar vmware-workstation para esto y lo mejor de todo no chupa más que un 3% de CPU. Bueno, eso es mejor que nada :-) De todas formas parece que el cliente web de vSphere sí admite linux con algunas condiciones: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do? language=en_UScmd=displayKCexternalId=1006095 Aunque dice que necesita conectarse a un servidor vcenter (ahh, eso era lo que decía c.l. martinez) y no directamente a las vm, hum... me parece que ya voy viendo cómo tiene montado el negocio vmware: el hypervisor es gratis -que no libre- pero si lo quieres administrar (obvio...) hay que pasar por caja. A ver si los de OpenStack se ponen las pilas y le dan un susto a estos de VMware :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.17.26...@gmail.com
Re: CD/DVD se ha perdido.
El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:19:25 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: Buenas tardes. Se me ha perdido la lectograbadora de CD/DVD. (No físicamente) Menos mal, ya iba a llamar a emergencias :-P Hace una semana que han desaparecido los dispositivos /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd No es problema de cables, y lo verifiqué; anda bien cuando inicio con un live-CD. Es como que no existiese la lectograbadora para el sistema. /etc/fstab está armado así: # Discos auxiliares /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 En wheezy lo tengo exactamente como tú. Mi sistema jessie Linux jap 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux ¿Dices que tienes testing con ese kernel? ¿Seguro? :-? $ lspci | grep SATA 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 4 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 05) lspci no creo que detecte dispositivos ópticos sino los puertos. lshw no muestra ninguna lectorabadora. (...) ¿Y qué te dice dmesg? ¿La reconoce? dmesg | grep -i -e cd -e sr Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.23.17.33...@gmail.com
Re: CD/DVD se ha perdido.
El 23/10/13 14:33, Camaleón escribió: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:19:25 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: Buenas tardes. Se me ha perdido la lectograbadora de CD/DVD. (No físicamente) Menos mal, ya iba a llamar a emergencias :-P Hace una semana que han desaparecido los dispositivos /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd No es problema de cables, y lo verifiqué; anda bien cuando inicio con un live-CD. Es como que no existiese la lectograbadora para el sistema. /etc/fstab está armado así: # Discos auxiliares /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 En wheezy lo tengo exactamente como tú. Mi sistema jessie Linux jap 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux ¿Dices que tienes testing con ese kernel? ¿Seguro? :-? Ehhh. sí. No sé por qué no se ha actualizado. Ya lo hice a mano. Linux jap 3.10-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.10.11-1 (2013-09-10) x86_64 GNU/Linux $ lspci | grep SATA 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 4 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 05) lspci no creo que detecte dispositivos ópticos sino los puertos. lshw no muestra ninguna lectorabadora. ¿Y qué te dice dmesg? ¿La reconoce? dmesg | grep -i -e cd -e sr Dice cualquier cosa menos lo que quiero: # dmesg | grep -i -e cd -e sr [0.00] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl) [0.00] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 high level) [0.505250] ehci_hcd: USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI) Driver [0.517889] usb usb1: Manufacturer: Linux 3.10-3-amd64 ehci_hcd [0.537871] usb usb2: Manufacturer: Linux 3.10-3-amd64 ehci_hcd Saludos, He seguido analizando, y metí dedos en udev. El pobre registra las cicatrices de mi maltrato al sistema. En los últimos 5 años he puesto 6 tipos distintos de lectoras de CD/DVD. Borré todo y he reiniciado la máquina y le he prestado atención a los logs de pantalla ...y parece que hay algún problemita en la grabadora, pues reporta errores aleatorios en ATA 3, que es donde está conectada. La BIOS de la máquina no indicaba que hubiese problemas, ni los hay cuando una arranca desde un live-cd. Por lo que puede deberse a tres causas: 1 - La lectograbadora está en vías de morir. 2 - La controladora de la placa tiene problemas. 3 - El maltrato del tipo pone y saca de discos, dispositivos, placas y demás, ha dejado cicatrices que no se cierran en udev, y el pobre está esquizofrénico. (Mi instalación ha sobrevivido durante 5 años, en 2 discos rígidos distintos, en 4 placas distintas, con periféricos distintos, mediante clonados y migraciones.) Hasta que no consiga otra lectograbadora, no quiero seguir probando. Tengo miedo que si es una falla de ella, me embrome algún puerto S-ATA. JAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52683117.6090...@gmail.com
Re: debian 7 no ejecuta lo que esta en cron.daily
El Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:49:16 -0500 Alejandro Gabriel Sánchez Martínez asanch...@e-compugraf.com escribió: El Lun 21 Oct 2013 20:32:00 Fabián Bonetti escribió: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:15:44 -0500 Alejandro Gabriel Sánchez Martínez asanch...@e-compugraf.com wrote: Hace así #touch /etc/cron.daily/my-script #chmod 644 /etc/cron.daily/my-script #chmod a+x /etc/cron.daily/my-script luego edita y mete el script allí #echo date /var/log/date.log /etc/cron.daily/my-script saludos quiza no me explique bien, en crond.daily y en cron.hourly tengo un archivo echo con vi que se llama date y con permisos 755 dentro de eĺ tendo lo del date , pero no lo ejecuta. si te explicaste bien , solo que hay gente que entiende lo que quiere ls -l /etc/cron.hourly/ total 4 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 37 oct 21 18:23 date root@ldos:/# cat /etc/cron.hourly/date #!/bin/sh date /var/log/date.log cambia date por /bin/date y proba tampoco si loponfo en daily es com msi no ejecutara nada del cron, si lo dejo en crontab -e e roort si lo hace, pero lo s de hoora y diario no revisa el /etc/crontab y fijate si en forma manual podes ejecutar las lineas -- Angel Claudio Alvarez an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023195206.e38258b9127d821adf30c...@angel-alvarez.com.ar
Re: Cliente esxi para linux
El día 23 de octubre de 2013 16:20, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: A más de uno habrá tenido el problema que se me presenta, que ya no solo administro KVM, XEN, o proxmox(KVM+OPENVZ) que lo podía hacer por web, vnc, etc. Ahora se me presenta la administración de vmware esxi, he mirado este magnifico software para probarlo: http://sourceforge.net/projects/veman/ Si alguien conoce alguno mejor, se agradece y se comparte. Hola, depende la versión de ESX que tengas, puedes acceder a las máquinas de manera directa utilizando una página web que los host tienen para poder realizar esta función. Si los ESX son de la versión 5, puedes usar vSphere, que aunque necesita FlashPlayer (algo incomprensible) y los menús se desplegan de una forma 'extraña' se puede utilizar con las versiones de Flash que tenemos en Debian, funcionando en Chrome sin problemas, e incluso utilizando el plugin instalable para la consola. El caso es que comprando licencia de vSphere, te 'regalan' licencias de Workstation con las que gestionar las VM, aunque desgraciadamente con Workstation no es posible realizar todas las tareas que podemos hacer con vSphere. Pienso que en este último 'movimiento' han bordado lo absurdo de la gestión, imponiendo incluso el uso de un Servidor Windows con SQLServer para gestionar los hosts y las VM cuando hay un número considerable de éstas. Claramente, están perdiendo el norte. Saludos, Javier Silva. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOg_h5Y8=Vs8x=Huz+i8xBfv�oobktube8c504c+a8mh9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ssh: problema autenticación usando llave privada... *** SOLUCIONADO ***
Buenas... El 23/10/13 12:24, Walter O. Dari escribió: Hola... El 23/10/2013 10:45, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com mailto:noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 23 Oct 2013 05:23:12 -0300, Walter O. Dari escribió: Desde hace unos 2 años vengo haciendo una copia automatizada con rsync y crontab desde un servidor de un cliente a uno de nuestros servidores. Para hacerlo habÃa copiado la clave generada con ssh-keygen en el servidor del cliente al authorized_keys del nuestro. Hasta hace unos 12 dÃas no habÃa problemas. Ahora observo que la copia estaba desactualizada, por lo que ingresé vÃa ssh al servidor del cliente sin problemas, pero cuando desde el servidor del cliente quiero entrar al nuestro me pide password. (...) ... como ven, aparentemente reconoce las clave pero al final pide password, seguramente es algo que no estoy viendo, pero bueno, agradezco la ayuda. La clave (valga la redundancia) del problema la debe de tener el servidor al que quieres conectar en el archivo /var/log/auth.log, echa un vistazo. Ni bien pueda lo voy a mirar y comento. Acabo de probar y luego mirar el archivo que me indicó Camaleón, la línea en cuestión (en nuestro servidor) mencionaba... Oct 24 02:23:03 svrsw sshd[11074]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/bksrpauto Me fui a ver el /home para ver los permisos del directorio bksrpauto y estaban así... drwxrwxr-x 6 bksrpauto users 4096 oct 23 04:56 bksrpauto Me llamó la atención el grupo users ya que bksrpauto no pertenece al mismo, por lo tanto, luego de un... svrsw:/home# chgrp bksrpauto bksrpauto/ ... pude entrar sin problemas desde el servidor del cliente, ya utiliza la clave y no me pide password. No se en que momento, ni por qué, se habrá modificado el grupo de este usuario a users. Gracias a Eduardo y a Camaleón por la orientación. Saludos, -- Walter O. Dari http://swcomputacion.com/ skype: waomda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5268b1c2.40...@gmail.com
Re: apt-get ou aptitude?
Gunther, O equivalente para o # aptitude safe-upgrade é o # apt-get install upgrade enquanto o equivalente para o # aptitude full-upgrade é o # apt-get install dist-upgrade Abraços Em 18 de outubro de 2013 08:53, Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.comescreveu: Em 17.10.2013, quinta, Luiz L. Marins disse: Uso aptitude apenas para localizar os arquivos, pois ele informa se está instalado, e o apt-get não. Fora isto, só apt-get mesmo .. o aptitude mexe demais em coisas que não queremos que mexa, pois se desinstalarmos algo, ele quer instalar novamente; é um terror. Eu instalo e atualizo com aptitude, e expurgo com apt-get. A minha curiosidade é: existe algum comando do apt-get que faça o mesmo que o aptitude safe-upgrade? abs., Em 17-10-2013 19:52, Tobias Sette escreveu: Comumente dizem que o aptitude veio para substituir o apt-get, que este último é inferior; mas no último guia de dist upgrade do debian é recomendado utilizar apt-get. Alguém sabe explicar? Att, Tobias http://gnu.eti.br -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS/CM/G/H/IT/L/SS d?(--) s++:+ a-- C+++ UL++ P+ L !E@ W+++ !N o? K- w !O !M@ !V@ PS PE-- !Y@ PGP t+ 5? X? R+ !tv b+ DI+ !D@ G e- h+ r-- y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Em 17 de outubro de 2013 14:48, Fred Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com mailto:fred.maran...@gmail.com escreveu: o aptitude search é extremamente poderoso, mas a sintaxe é meio pesada. RTFM: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03.html http://algebraicthunk.net/%7Edburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03.html logo aqui http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s01.html http://algebraicthunk.net/%7Edburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s01.html já fala dos parâmetros ?name e ?description, que acho que são o que você quer saber. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capr829mzqcbuu_7db+cchtkba7p74un4h56kkeyavceap28...@mail.gmail.com -- Cuando la guática pide comídica Pone al cristiánico firme y guerrérico Por sus poróticos y sus cebóllicas, No hay regimiéntico que los deténguica Si tienen hámbrica los populáricos. Violeta Parra Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com skype:gunfurtado -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131018085327.47500...@shrknemo.gbmc.net
Re: apt-get ou aptitude?
Olá! Em 23 de outubro de 2013 11:24, Shutdown -h now sh11td...@gmail.comescreveu: Gunther, O equivalente para o # aptitude safe-upgrade é o # apt-get install upgrade enquanto o equivalente para o # aptitude full-upgrade é o # apt-get install dist-upgrade Tenho usado apt-get upgrade (sem o install) e a lista de coisas a instalar realmente bate com o aptitude safe-upgrade. estou satisfeito! Abraços Em 18 de outubro de 2013 08:53, Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.comescreveu: Em 17.10.2013, quinta, Luiz L. Marins disse: Uso aptitude apenas para localizar os arquivos, pois ele informa se está instalado, e o apt-get não. Fora isto, só apt-get mesmo .. o aptitude mexe demais em coisas que não queremos que mexa, pois se desinstalarmos algo, ele quer instalar novamente; é um terror. Eu instalo e atualizo com aptitude, e expurgo com apt-get. A minha curiosidade é: existe algum comando do apt-get que faça o mesmo que o aptitude safe-upgrade? abs., Em 17-10-2013 19:52, Tobias Sette escreveu: Comumente dizem que o aptitude veio para substituir o apt-get, que este último é inferior; mas no último guia de dist upgrade do debian é recomendado utilizar apt-get. Alguém sabe explicar? Att, Tobias http://gnu.eti.br -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS/CM/G/H/IT/L/SS d?(--) s++:+ a-- C+++ UL++ P+ L !E@ W+++ !N o? K- w !O !M@ !V@ PS PE-- !Y@ PGP t+ 5? X? R+ !tv b+ DI+ !D@ G e- h+ r-- y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Em 17 de outubro de 2013 14:48, Fred Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com mailto:fred.maran...@gmail.com escreveu: o aptitude search é extremamente poderoso, mas a sintaxe é meio pesada. RTFM: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03.html http://algebraicthunk.net/%7Edburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03.html logo aqui http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s01.html http://algebraicthunk.net/%7Edburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s01.html já fala dos parâmetros ?name e ?description, que acho que são o que você quer saber. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capr829mzqcbuu_7db+cchtkba7p74un4h56kkeyavceap28...@mail.gmail.com -- Cuando la guática pide comídica Pone al cristiánico firme y guerrérico Por sus poróticos y sus cebóllicas, No hay regimiéntico que los deténguica Si tienen hámbrica los populáricos. Violeta Parra Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com skype:gunfurtado -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131018085327.47500...@shrknemo.gbmc.net -- Parece falso el arrebol que se desprende de su ser. Viene del reino de Satán, toda su sangre respondió, quemas el árbol del amor, dejas cenizas al pasar. *Violeta Parra *Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com sip:furta...@ekiga.net
Interspire + Debian
Bom tarde PessoALL, Alguém já implantou o Interspire ? Estou procurando materiais de estudo pois preciso fazer um trabalho para um cliente antigo meu. Que infraestrutura eu preciso ? Que serviçoes e pacotes e preciso estar rodando no servidor ? Quais os passos as serem seguidos do inicio até o final ? -- Cordialmente, _Christian Rosa - °v° Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL /(_)\ (51) 92281059 ^ ^ MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com Linkedin - Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !
Re: Interspire + Debian
Exato Renato, Estou com esse projeto, é um mail marketing. Eu imaginei que teria que ter um LAMP instalado, mas e os disparos dos e-mail como é feito, preciso de um mta no servidor ? A respeito do knowlledge base, desconheço, mas é deles mesmo ou de uma comunidade ? Abraço Em 23 de outubro de 2013 16:52, Renato Batisteli Pinto renatobatist...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá Christian Tive bastante contato com Interspire, imagino que estas a te referir ao Marketter, não?. Eu recordo-em de ter visto na knowlledge base da deles informações bastantes completas. Digo isso porque na altura estava a ponderar instalar para um cliente e a instalação seria numa plataforma LAMP. Além disso, as vezes que precisei de esclarecimentos recebi um bom atendimento. Acho que é o melhor lugar para você obter o que precisa. Boa sorte RBP Em 23/10/13, Christian Rosachristiant.i...@gmail.com escreveu: Bom tarde PessoALL, Alguém já implantou o Interspire ? Estou procurando materiais de estudo pois preciso fazer um trabalho para um cliente antigo meu. Que infraestrutura eu preciso ? Que serviçoes e pacotes e preciso estar rodando no servidor ? Quais os passos as serem seguidos do inicio até o final ? -- Cordialmente, _Christian Rosa - °v° Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL /(_)\ (51) 92281059 ^ ^ MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com Linkedin - Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX ! -- Renato Batisteli Pinto *Sales Director* *+55 42 91489408* -- Cordialmente, _Christian Rosa - °v° Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL /(_)\ (51) 92281059 ^ ^ MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com Linkedin - Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !
Re: Re: Teste para levantar um novo PDC SAMBA
Boa tarde, Julio, estava pesquisando sobre o assunto e acabei de tropeçar nas suas aulas, e estou em situação bem semelhante (migrarei um domínio já existente, com samba4, para outro servidor também com samba4). Mantendo o SID do dominio, as estações não perceberão a mudança e vão autenticar normalmente, ok, mas como manter os usuário, grupo e principalmente as senhas já existentes atualmente? Abraço, -- Robson Américo
Desenvolvimento embarcado no Debian
Olá pessoal, Vocês utilizam o Debian para desenvolvimento de sistemas embarcados? Se sim, poderiam me indicar alguma fonte sobre a utilização de toolchain no Debian? Tenho encontrado apenas tutoriais e ferramentas (vide Linaro) para Ubuntu. Inclusive, gostaria de utilizar o gcc-arm, mas não encontrei no Debian. Abraço. Dyego
Report Bug: Debian Wheezy e Jessie
Boa noite a todos. Já faz alguns dias que venho trabalhando na solução de dois problemas relacionados às versões estável (Wheezy) e testing (Jessie) do Debian. Porém, acredito que seja importante informar que não estou reportando o bug via reportbug, pois utilizo o notebook para trabalho e não poderia mais esperar. Sendo o mais objetivo possível, o que acontece é o seguinte: instalando a versão estável do Debian em meu notebook, *a ventoinha/fan do processador roda de 90% a 95% do tempo em velocidade máxima*, mesmo com os sensores indicando temperaturas bem abaixo dos níveis críticos. Na versão estável, o cpufreq-utils retorna que o driver carregado para o processador não é o intel-pstate, mas mesmo assim as informações de limites de processamento estão corretas. De qualquer maneira, achei interessante tentar rodar um kernel mais recente. Não funcionou. Tanto a versão testing quanto o último kernel disponibilizado (3.11.6) não deram resultado, e ainda trouxeram o segundo problema: *a perda do controle do brilho do monitor*, que deve ser feito manualmente em /sys/class/backlight/intel (...). Hoje estou rodando o Windows 8 no computador, mas realmente gostaria de solucionar o problema, só que não posso ficar reinstalando o Windows diariamente, pois a chave tem um número máximo de ativações, e já devo estar chegando no limite. Então a pergunta que fica é: há alguma solução para os problemas indicados, principalmente o da ventoinha? Informações importantes: Dell Vostro 3560. Intel i5-3230M 2.60 Ghz (Turbo Boost 3.20 Ghz). 3rd generation Intel HD Graphics 4000. BIOS atualizada. Agradeço a ajuda de todos! Felipe
Re: XFCE without GNOME/KDE parts (Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1)
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 02:18:10 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: That makes me wonder, perhaps this works because your install is that clean. There may be other differences. Versions, build options, etc. And there's always ltrace and strace to make sure that the software behaves exactly the way you want it. Impossible for my usage, fortunately I anyway mount from a terminal. I don't know if the OP could live without G and Dconf and gtk3. I didn't install that stuff simply for the sake of an clean experiment. I'm pretty sure that thunar doesn't use GConf, DConf or GTK+3, so these libraries were not needed. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023102116.8ee1b2e35bfca57d9a728...@gmail.com
Re: Back in Time fails with Python errors
Hi On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 04:11:09PM -0700, anx_dev wrote: Hi all, Back in Time is failing with a Python fatal error in app.py. Is anyone having the same sort of error? Possibly. Possibly not. If you listed what the error actually was, it may be helpful in resolving it. -- Karl E. Jorgensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023062401.GA25131@hawking
Re: XFCE without GNOME/KDE parts (Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1)
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:21:16 +0200, recovery...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 02:18:10 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: That makes me wonder, perhaps this works because your install is that clean. There may be other differences. Versions, build options, etc. And there's always ltrace and strace to make sure that the software behaves exactly the way you want it. What will you strace, if you're missing the Trash can icon? ;) And no, I don't need a trash can, even if I delete using the mouse I delete and don't move to trash, but usually I use a terminal for file browsing and operations like remove. The OP is missing the Trash can icon and there's nothing wrong with it, if people want a Trash can. Impossible for my usage, fortunately I anyway mount from a terminal. I don't know if the OP could live without G and Dconf and gtk3. I didn't install that stuff simply for the sake of an clean experiment. I'm pretty sure that thunar doesn't use GConf, DConf or GTK+3, so these libraries were not needed. Thunar doesn't need them, but other software does. Don't ask me what software e.g. gtk3 needs, since I'm booted to a very old Linux right no. cat /etc/issue Welcome to openSUSE 11.2 Emerald RC 1 - Kernel \r (\l). uname -rm 2.6.31.6-rt19 x86_64 Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.w5ec5hsxqhadp0@suse11-2
Re: Dying hard drive?
On 23 Oct 2013, at 00:52, Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote: rdiff-backup is buggy (at least, it has at least one serious reported bug, known for years but not even acknowledged by upstream), untouched for years and apparently abandoned: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/10/msg00182.html Yep. I've not hit that one but I've hit others. Despite this it's still better than rsnapshot IMHO, but it's not a great bunch to pick from. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aa097ccf-89a4-4a59-947f-df9caf87e...@debian.org
Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED
On Monday 21 October 2013 20:50:44 Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 03:11:03PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: That tedious. It was/is getting broken all the time, thus getting tangled up with everything else. It is beginning to be a real nuisance. Blacklist all the recent participants. Thanks all for your suggestions. I have followed this one! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201310230941.57977.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Dying hard drive?
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:24:42PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 08:59:05AM +0200, Veljko wrote: Do you guys have any advice for this? Should I first run dd on those drives. They are part of RAID, so it should be difficult to read data from one drive alone, but what is the best way to be sure? And obviously, I'll have to return more than one drive. Running dd is fine, shred [options] /dev/sd? is even better. But shred will take forever to finish. Well, guess there is no quicker way. Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023084218.ga5...@angelina.example.com
Re: Dying hard drive?
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:01:07PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: is rsnapshot doing something different to usual: have you got a lot more files in your backup? is it now having to delete old snapshots, whereas before it hadn't hit some critical threshold? I found it to scale very poorly when I was using it. rdiff-backup is almost a drop-in replacement and doesn't suffer the same problem (lots of work to adjust large hard link trees) Nothing important changed. I'm quite happy with rsnapshot. It does take some time to copy and delete lot of files, but it's expected. Before this issue with HDDs I haven't had any performance issues. rsnapshot would copy and delete and load would be low. I'm using RAID10 so that might helped. I understood that rdiff-backup is much faster, but I was put away from it because of stalled development. Also, I like how every backup iteration of rsnapshot looks complete. Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023084251.gb5...@angelina.example.com
audacity export wma format
Bonjour, Is there a debian package to install FFmepg libraries for audacity? I need to export some audio files to this format. Thank you. -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
logwatch question
Bonjour, Today, I get this warning from logwatch: gzip: stdout: No space left on device system 'zcat '/var/log/syslog.2.gz' /tmp/logwatch.X_4YucXv/syslog-archive' failed: 256 at /usr/sbin/logwatch line 774. run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/00logwatch exited with return code 2 Upto now there were no problems to run logwatch. I understand that my /tmp partition is too small, but I don't understand why logwatch needs more than 1 Gb to write the log digest? I installed /tmp as tmpfs, is there a config file for logwatch where I can modify this and tell logwatch to use /var/tmp instead of /tmp? Thank you -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: XFCE without GNOME/KDE parts (Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1)
Le 23.10.2013 08:21, recovery...@gmail.com a écrit : Impossible for my usage, fortunately I anyway mount from a terminal. I don't know if the OP could live without G and Dconf and gtk3. I didn't install that stuff simply for the sake of an clean experiment. I'm pretty sure that thunar doesn't use GConf, DConf or GTK+3, so these libraries were not needed. Reco Don't you have gstreamer installer? I am interested in how to remove gconf2 and all it's family from my system, since I do not understand why I need a configuration system for stuff which is only used to play things in my web-browsers... which anyway needs flash-player to really play stuff. (it's not the only dependency I would like to remove, but it would be a good start. There also tons of dependency for libsdl which do not seems to make lot of sense) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/7ed387e8a8fd9a38159a0918814ee...@neutralite.org
Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)
Le 23.10.2013 04:04, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/22/2013 8:47 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 22.10.2013 23:01, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/21/2013 5:26 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 18.10.2013 19:36, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/18/2013 1:10 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 18.10.2013 17:22, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/17/2013 12:42 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : I only know few people who actually likes them :) I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use standard smart pointers in C++, I tend to avoid them. I had so much troubles with them, so now I only use them for polymorphism and sometimes RTTI. I hope that someday references will become usable in standard containers... (I think they are not because of technical problems, but I do not know a lot about that. C++ is easy to learn, but hard to master.) Good design and code structure eliminates most pointer problems; proper testing will get the rest. Smart pointers are nice, but in real time processing they are an additional overhead (and an unknown one at that since you don't know the underlying libraries). Depends on the smart pointer. shared_ptr indeed have a runtime cost, since it maintains additional data, but unique_ptr does not, afaik, it is made from pure templates, so only compilation-time cost. You need to check your templates. Templates generate code. Code needs resources to execute. Otherwise there would be no difference between a unique_ptr and a C pointer. In practice, you can replace every occurrence of std::unique_ptrint by int* in your code. It will still work, and have no bug. Except, of course, that you will have to remove some .get(), .release() and things like that here and there. You can not do the inverse transformation, because you can not copy unique_ptr. The only use of unique_ptr is to forbid some operations. The code it generates is the same as you would have used around your raw pointers: new, delete, swap, etc. Of course, you can say that the simple fact of calling a method have an overhead, but most of unique_ptr's stuff is inlined. Even without speaking about compiler's optimizations. Even inlined code requires resources to execute. It is NOT as fast as regular C pointers. I did some testing, to be sure. With -O3, the code is exactly the same. Did not tried with -O1 and -O2. Without optimization, the 5 lines with pointers were half sized of those using unique_ptr. But I never ship softwares not optimized (the level depends on my needs, and usually I do not use -O3, though). First of all, with the -O1 and -O2 optimization you got extra code. Did you try it? It just did, with a code doing simply a new and a delete with raw against unique_ptr. In short, the simplest usage possible. Numbers are optimization level, p means pointer and u means unique_ptr. It seems that it is the 2nd level of optimization which removes the difference. Which is why your -O3 was able to optimize the extra code out. A more complicated test would not do that. I'll try to make a more complicated test today, which uses all common stuff between raw and unique pointers. 7244 oct. 23 01:57 p0.out 6845 oct. 23 01:58 p1.out 6845 oct. 23 01:58 p2.out 6845 oct. 23 01:58 p3.out 11690 oct. 23 01:59 u0.out 10343 oct. 23 01:59 u1.out 6845 oct. 23 01:59 u2.out 6845 oct. 23 01:59 u3.out That means the template DOES create more code. With -O3, your *specific test* allowed the compiler to optimize out the extra code. But that's only in your test; other code will not fare as well. Indeed it adds code. But what is relevant is what you will release, and if by adding some switches (I am interested in that stuff now, but too tired from now. Tomorrow I'll make testing with various switches to know which one exactly allows to have those results, plus a better testing code. Sounds like a good occasion to learn few things.) you have the same final results, then it is not a problem, at least for me. Only in your simple case. Now, I have never found any benchmark trying to compare raw pointers and unique_ptr, could be interesting to have real numbers instead of assumptions. I'll probably do that tomorrow. I don't care about benchmarks in such things. If I need a unique_ptr, I use a unique_ptr. If I don't, I (may) use a raw pointer. I do not really like benchmarks, to be honest, but if I can learn something by writing some testing code, then why not. If there is a performance problem later, I will find the problem and fix it. But I don't prematurely optimize. Agree. Additionally, when the unique_ptr object is destroyed, the object being pointed to must also be destroyed. If you do not provide an empty deleter, you are right. This is the default behavior. But you can provide one, for example if you need to interface with C
Re: Boot Problems with 2.6.32-5-686 Kernel
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 08:54:55PM -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: I ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade this morning on an old server (Debian Squeeze) and the system won't boot now. I get the error kernel panic not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0) One of the updates was to kernel 2.6.32-5-686. I can boot in to safe mode with this kernel, and the upgrade wiped out the older version of the kernel. I have googled for possible solutions, but nothing helpful is popping up. I am also running grub, and not grub2, but that is OK for this kernel according to [1]debian.org. Any suggestions on how to proceed? I would suggest that your first port of call is to update the initramfs. You haven't told us what your root filesystem is, though. If it's a common filesystem on a regular partition, then you should be fine. But if you've got RAID or LVM or anything exotic going on, then try adding rootdelay=30 to the kernel commandline, too. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian and UEFI and GPT
Bret Busby wrote: Hello. I am wondering whether the amd64 versions of Debian 6 and 7 install and run on a UEFI/GPT system. From what I understand, FreeBSD does not yet install and run on a UEFI/GPT system, and so I assume that Debian kfreebsd also does not yet install and run on a UEFI/GPT system, and I am wondering whether the amd64 versions of Debian 6 and 7, install and run on a UEFI/GPT system. Wheezy (Debian 7) for amd64 was the first release with native support for UEFI. Earlier versions will recognise and support GPT partitioning, but if you must have UEFI booting you will need version 7. The kfreebsd ports don't (yet) have UEFI support, I'm waiting for help / guidance to add it on our installation media. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Support the Campaign for Audiovisual Free Expression: http://www.eff.org/cafe/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1vyv95-00088m...@mail.einval.com
Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Bonno Bloksma b.blok...@tio.nl wrote: allow-auto eth0.9 iface eth0.9 inet static address 192.168.1.119 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 post-up ip address add 192.168.1.199/24 dev eth0.9 What I use is: -=-=-=-=-=- auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 172.16.17.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 auto vlan100 iface vlan100 inet static vlan-raw-device eth0 address 192.168.178.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.178.1 -=-=-=-=-=- This is just one address: Steffen was looking for a multiple-address method. For that I use the post-up ip address add ... lines too. On an external gateway I have multiple lines like that to get all the ip-numbers up for which that interface handles the incoming data. If each address is to have its own vlan then it is still doable but a bit more complex. And that didn't work for the OP using e-n-i... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=syzzm05t2q5a0_zkgyjnrnh6amw1hm4mv8h4zc-l+v...@mail.gmail.com
Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Jogi Hofmüller j...@mur.at wrote: Am 2013-10-18 12:42, schrieb Jogi Hofmüller: Am 2013-10-18 10:35, schrieb Jesse Molina: As previously noted, this was a bug in mdadm and has already been fixed in the current version. Just update your mdadm package and then re-build your initramfs file with the update-initramfs command. Be sure to read the manpage for that command. Probably update-initramfs -u alone will fix your problem. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=726237 Thanks for the hint. Read the bugreport before and figured it is not relevant since we are using mdadm 3.2.5 which is supposed to be working. Still, did the upgrade to 3.3-2: no change. BTW: all this happens on an Intel Serverbarebone (RZ1208GZ4GC) with SATA drives on C600/X79 series chipset SATA controler. A similar machine with Series/C200 Series Chipset SATA controler boots just fine with the same setup (linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 and mdadm 3.2.5). Does anyone have experience with Intel Serverbarebones? I figure it has something to do with the SATA controler ... I tried using linux-image-3.11-1 from sid today and got the same result. No RAID is created. I really don't know where to start looking now. Any ideas? Wrong list? Feel free to find another list. At what point does your boot stop? Are you dropped to an initramfs shell? Is the array assembled? Are the by-uuid entries created? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SxS02ocnJdGMvG8CbO5WW5nQSZsQYiSWbcOPXLj0=b...@mail.gmail.com
Re: upgrade to wheezy
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 02:20:43AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2013-10-23 at 00:05 +0200, mess-mate wrote: Thanks to all for the help !! You're welcome, but next time please write in plain text. On most mailing lists and this is one of them, HTML is frowned upon. It was multipart message, using mutt moi didn't see any html. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023104600.GA17325@jessie.gatewire
Re: Start Synaptic with user password (NOT root password)
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:09 PM, anx_dev ispma...@gmail.com wrote: Since the change for pkexec, Synaptic cannot be started with a user with sudo privileges. This is _very_ cumbersome if you have to admin several machines with a central NIS for users and allowing only the user sitting on the machine to have sudo on _that_ machine. Should I report a bug? Is there a easy way to change this configuration for all machines quickly? How are the users given sudo access? By default, members of the sudo group are pkexec admins: $ cat /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/51-debian-sudo.conf [Configuration] AdminIdentities=unix-group:sudo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SzsZa-=e2mhcifr9qhscdkf8pdbrth_vkx2qmafcc3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Start Synaptic with user password (NOT root password)
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 20:34 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: I have also had this problem for a while - I thought it was related to Mate which I run. gksudo will run it here...but pkexec will not. I don't know pkexec. Does it allow something gksudo doesn't allow? If there should be the need to log in as another user with gksudo, this does the trick: xhost + gksudo -u add_another_user_here $* xhost - exit xhost + is a sledge-hammer. xhost +si:localuser:another_user -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SxN2HeeWezfwuYO+Zje7x69rffUiKadSguX65FnY=u...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Start Synaptic with user password (NOT root password)
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:09 AM, anx_dev ispma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Since the change for pkexec, Synaptic cannot be started with a user with sudo privileges. This is _very_ cumbersome if you have to admin several machines with a central NIS for users and allowing only the user sitting on the machine to have sudo on _that_ machine. Should I report a bug? Is there a easy way to change this configuration for all machines quickly? Thanks Something like this help? sudo synaptic -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iNYWW1peQVLZmW=rt9Upy=mua-svxr46ngd13_gocz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Once again about anacron cron cron.daily
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: Harry Putnam wrote: I'm still not getting the whole picture of what is supposed to happen on a machine with both anacron and cron installed. And you might be tired of having me respond about it. :-) Not on your life! I have a certain fondness for descriptive and very helpful posts here. I have lines like the one below in /etc/crontab [...] test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) Ok, it tests for the presence of /usr/sbin/anacron, checks that it is executable and sees to it that this user has permission to run it. Yes. The this user part is part that you trimmed off. It runs as the root user. The root user will always have permission. Let me show the part you trimmed off. (Times might be different.) I was trying to say... I 'got' all that. But I think your formulation is a bit off. test -x doesn't care who is running what... it checks to see that the soul calling test -x has permission to run the app it is called against... at least, that was my reading of `man test'. But yes, in our subject case it is expected to be root.. From `man test' -x FILE FILE exists and execute (or search) permission is granted [...] But where and when does anacron actually get called to run? That line appears to expect anacron to be called somewhere else. Yes. The anacron itself is actually called from ... cron! :-) $ dpkg -L anacron /etc/cron.d/anacron ... Bingo, thank you sir... now it starts to make sense... and thanks too for pointing out what I should have thought of as a way to get a clue using `dpkg -L'. And just a small supplement to help you understand why I didn't quite follow the setup... On the first sign of trouble with logs not getting processed, I checked what state anacron was in with `/etc/init.d/anacron status', which gave a blank no reply which made me assume, (apparently wrongly) that anacron was not running. So, I started thinking it was not getting called. [...] /etc/init.d/anacron start. Why invoke-rc.d? Because the local admin may have set up a policy-rc.d configuration that disables it. I was just wondering why `invoke-rc.d', now I get that too, thanks. [...] I've never taken any actions on anacron and don't remember even installing it purposely... so am I supposed to put it into a run level? I can't believe I didn't recommend to you at some previous time that you should probably just remove anacron. Do you need it? If not then remove it. (I would 'purge' it and remove the config files too.) You did, on the very first response to slightly different subject but still involving `cron' and `anacron', might have been on the emacs list though. And about needing anacron. Yes, I guess I'm just the type of user that anacron was designed for. My machine is shut off nearly every day, and sometimes isn't started for a day or two. When it is, there is no rigid pattern time wise. Seems like, if not anacron then I'd need to be a lot more trick and careful with cron scheduling or do some scripting or the like. [...] Or, does it get called somewhere else in the cron setup? Yes! You have guessed it. Also there is apm support. When power is plugged in and unplugged then anacron is run or stopped. Interesting... and good to know. It doesn't effect me at the moment but at some point I will probably have debian running on a laptop. Oh, and I hope you do not tire of answering my often poorly worded queries. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ppqw9ok5@newsguy.com
reset perms and ownerships
Hi, ( this is most likely a RTFM question, please just point me to the right FM) One inexperienced colleague just something along the likes of... sudo chown someuser:somegroup / ; sudo chmod someperms / (it's actually a little more elaborate than that, but you get the picture) ... and then came back to me for help. I'm a sysadmin on the RH/CentOS camp, and my confort level with apt-* and dpkg* is extremely low. Is there anything like rpm -V on the debian toolset? I'm trying to avoid punishing him (further) with reinstall... Thanks in advance, Mário Barbosa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5267bd5a.70...@gmail.com
Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:41:57 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Lisi, On Monday 21 October 2013 20:50:44 Jonathan Dowland wrote: Blacklist all the recent participants. Thanks all for your suggestions. I have followed this one! Be aware though, that if somebody new posts to the thread, you'll see their messages, and any quote(s) they contain so the thread re-emerges. Also, blacklisting the people will block their posts to that, and any other thread, not just those to the thread you were/are trying to quell. OTOH, you might consider that a Good Thing®. ;-) -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent It's cool to know nothin' Never Miss A Beat - Kaiser Chiefs signature.asc Description: PGP signature
How to ditch nouveau driver with nVidia card
setup: Running Debian testing Video card (from lspci): 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International ... I'm getting some kind of horrible sequence of events on many (not all) bootups. It started a few months ago, and I suspect following some kind of update but I didn't really notice it so much at first and didn't really get busy checking into it Seems to have gotten worse lately. What happens is I get what looks like some kind of screen saver effect, but during bootup, when X is not running. Seems to break up the colors from the grub boot screen and makes horizontal and vertical patterns of lines with those colors. But it takes over the screen and no login appears, pressing enter or any other keys has no effect. (I boot to console No X, calling startx when I need it) Using a reboot usually fixes it, and it comes up normally, but lately its taking several reboots to get a clean boot. During the problem screen, at least I can still ssh in remotely and tailing /var/log/messages I'm seeing piles and piles of lines like these: (wrapped for mail) Oct 23 06:57:05 reader kernel: [ 52.162552] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PFIFO_CACHE_ERROR - Ch 0/3 Mthd 0x0be8 Data 0x03f001b8 Those lines just poor out while the goofy screen is in place. Once I get a clean boot, no more log messages. I see by googling that the nouveau driver has some reported bugs (Not necessarily debian bugs) involving exactly that log error. I'd like to go back to the old `nv' driver I used to use when running Gentoo, or some other driver that will work with my card and just ditch that nouveau driver. Can anyone guide me a bit as to how to do that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87li1k9nqr@newsguy.com
Re: Start Synaptic with user password (NOT root password)
Em terça-feira, 22 de outubro de 2013 22h30min02s UTC-2, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 16:09 -0700, anx_dev wrote: Synaptic cannot be started with a user with sudo privileges. Does it work if you use gksudo? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382487804.3610.173.camel@archlinux Yes, it works with gksudo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/581475e5-bdfe-48d0-8e43-0e53b44b7...@googlegroups.com
Re: Start Synaptic with user password (NOT root password)
Em quarta-feira, 23 de outubro de 2013 09h00min02s UTC-2, Tom H escreveu: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:09 PM, anx_dev ispma...@gmail.com wrote: Since the change for pkexec, Synaptic cannot be started with a user with sudo privileges. This is _very_ cumbersome if you have to admin several machines with a central NIS for users and allowing only the user sitting on the machine to have sudo on _that_ machine. Should I report a bug? Is there a easy way to change this configuration for all machines quickly? How are the users given sudo access? By default, members of the sudo group are pkexec admins: $ cat /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/51-debian-sudo.conf [Configuration] AdminIdentities=unix-group:sudo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SzsZa-=e2mhcifr9qhscdkf8pdbrth_vkx2qmafcc3...@mail.gmail.com Interesting. I add the users to the sudoers on that machine using visudo. I'll try to add the users to the sudo group and test to see which password it asks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8ecc117d-eb6b-4a8b-85fc-9a6ec7012...@googlegroups.com
Re: Start Synaptic with user password (NOT root password)
Em terça-feira, 22 de outubro de 2013 23h00min02s UTC-2, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 20:34 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: I have also had this problem for a while - I thought it was related to Mate which I run. gksudo will run it here...but pkexec will not. I don't know pkexec. Does it allow something gksudo doesn't allow? If there should be the need to log in as another user with gksudo, this does the trick: xhost + gksudo -u add_another_user_here $* xhost - exit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382489867.3610.181.camel@archlinux The idea is not to use xhost, as I would have to teach each user how to use it, and that can lead to a series of problems... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e7c940f-f9d7-4d9a-a85e-ab9e372b5...@googlegroups.com
Re: reset perms and ownerships
Le 23.10.2013 14:13, Mário Barbosa a écrit : Hi, ( this is most likely a RTFM question, please just point me to the right FM) One inexperienced colleague just something along the likes of... sudo chown someuser:somegroup / ; sudo chmod someperms / (it's actually a little more elaborate than that, but you get the picture) ... and then came back to me for help. Hopefully he'll remember that using super user powers have to be made with care :) I'm a sysadmin on the RH/CentOS camp, and my confort level with apt-* and dpkg* is extremely low. Is there anything like rpm -V on the debian toolset? I'm trying to avoid punishing him (further) with reinstall... It does not do any control (which is the role of rpm -V if I understood correctly the man), but apt-get --reinstall might help. But if he did the changes on /etc, it won't work, because configuration files won't be modified ( it removes and installs, not purge and installs ). I think you might have solutions, but what has been changed, exactly? Software binaries in /usr? Configuration files in /etc? Other stuff in /var? Maybe simply changing back the perms and ownerships might be simpler, too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/eb6a41a64711a36653a17e3786880...@neutralite.org
Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:45:55 +0200 Marko Randjelovic marko...@eunet.rs wrote: On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:46:16 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I think that midori is still maintained? Never heard of it, except in Debian repo, anyway I'll give it a try. Thanks I got very frustrated about Webkit (Midori uses Webkit). I found enormous number of bugs in CVE list, but most of them were related to products that use Webkit such as Google Chrome, I should determine if they originated from Webkit or those products, but it was impossible due to their number, then I wanted to check few of them, but it was also not possible because Webkit bug tracker didn't allow me to view relevant page, even when I registered and logged in. Web browsers that use Webkit: kazehakase, arora, epiphany-browser, luakit, midori, surf, xxxterm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131023143635.75a9e...@eunet.rs
Re: How to ditch nouveau driver with nVidia card
Le 23.10.2013 14:26, Harry Putnam a écrit : setup: Running Debian testing Video card (from lspci): 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International ... I'm getting some kind of horrible sequence of events on many (not all) bootups. It started a few months ago, and I suspect following some kind of update but I didn't really notice it so much at first and didn't really get busy checking into it Seems to have gotten worse lately. What happens is I get what looks like some kind of screen saver effect, but during bootup, when X is not running. Seems to break up the colors from the grub boot screen and makes horizontal and vertical patterns of lines with those colors. But it takes over the screen and no login appears, pressing enter or any other keys has no effect. (I boot to console No X, calling startx when I need it) Using a reboot usually fixes it, and it comes up normally, but lately its taking several reboots to get a clean boot. During the problem screen, at least I can still ssh in remotely and tailing /var/log/messages I'm seeing piles and piles of lines like these: (wrapped for mail) Oct 23 06:57:05 reader kernel: [ 52.162552] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: PFIFO_CACHE_ERROR - Ch 0/3 Mthd 0x0be8 Data 0x03f001b8 Those lines just poor out while the goofy screen is in place. Once I get a clean boot, no more log messages. I see by googling that the nouveau driver has some reported bugs (Not necessarily debian bugs) involving exactly that log error. I'd like to go back to the old `nv' driver I used to use when running Gentoo, or some other driver that will work with my card and just ditch that nouveau driver. Can anyone guide me a bit as to how to do that? Did you try to purge and reinstall nouveau? Other solutions I can think about are to use the vesa driver but things will be slow, or to use the proprietary NVidia's one, but it's closed source ( I personally do not mind, but maybe you do ). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2ba9692c94da574f746c0f7916a20...@neutralite.org
Re: Rebooting and HDD spinup / spindown cycles [WAS: Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1]
On 2013-10-23, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Isn't that plausible? I'm the source, I care for facts, not for claims from vendors. From your favorite company: research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf Power Cycles. The power cycles indicator counts the number of times a drive is powered up and down. In a server-class deployment, in which drives are powered continuously, we do not expect to reach high enough power cycle counts to see any effects on failure rates. Our results find that for drives aged up to two years, this is true, there is no significant correlation between fail- ures and high power cycles count. But for drives 3 years and older, higher power cycle counts can increase the absolute failure rate by over 2%. We believe this is due more to our population mix than to aging effects. More- over, this correlation could be the effect (not the cause) of troubled machines that require many repair iterations and thus many power cycles to be fixed. Power-on hours. Although we do not dispute that power-on hours might have an effect on drive lifetime, it happens that in our deployment the age of the drive is an excellent approximation for that parameter, given that our drives remain powered on for most of their life time. Key findings: · Contrary to previously reported results, we found very little correlation between failure rates and ei- ther elevated temperature or activity levels. · Some SMART parameters (scan errors, realloca- tion counts, offline reallocation counts, and proba- tional counts) have a large impact on failure proba- bility. · Given the lack of occurrence of predictive SMART signals on a large fraction of failed drives, it is un- likely that an accurate predictive failure model can be built based on these signals alone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl6fh79.2k5.cu...@einstein.electron.org
maintained web-browser ( was: Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus )
Le 23.10.2013 14:36, Marko Randjelovic a écrit : On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:45:55 +0200 Marko Randjelovic marko...@eunet.rs wrote: On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:46:16 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I think that midori is still maintained? Never heard of it, except in Debian repo, anyway I'll give it a try. Thanks I got very frustrated about Webkit (Midori uses Webkit). I found enormous number of bugs in CVE list, but most of them were related to products that use Webkit such as Google Chrome, I should determine if they originated from Webkit or those products, but it was impossible due to their number, then I wanted to check few of them, but it was also not possible because Webkit bug tracker didn't allow me to view relevant page, even when I registered and logged in. Web browsers that use Webkit: kazehakase, arora, epiphany-browser, luakit, midori, surf, xxxterm. I must admit that no webkit browser convinced me until now. You forgot uzbl, dillo, dwb... all of them are slow and/or buggy. I do not really think it is because they are using webkit, of course. On the other hand, there are not a lot of graphical web browsers using another renderer. Except firefox, IE and opera, I do not know any to be exact. If you have any suggestion of webbrowser to try, I will be happy to learn it's name, even it I need to compile it. Web-browsers are one of the most use tools nowadays, but no one is really good, even in mainstream. The choices I have found are between fast and not too buggy ( mainstream ) which are bloated, and non bloated but surprisingly, slow and buggy as hell ( all other I have found ). Of all the non-mainstream ones I tried, the only potentially usable one was midori. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/b2e87762a9b3fb4ea7de44549e836...@neutralite.org
sluggish iceweasel
I have been using the iceweasel web browser for years; but in the past several weeks using an up-to-date jessie system, iceweasel has become very sluggish. Even the simplest operations, like scrolling the screen, have become so sluggish that iceweasel has become almost unusable. I just tried switching to Epiphany, not known for lightning speed, but Epiphany is quite snappy compared to iceweasel now. Is it just me? Or has someone else noticed this too? Is there relief in sight? -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1795474995.3818875.1382533641479.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Boot Problems with 2.6.32-5-686 Kernel
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade this morning on an old server (Debian Squeeze) and the system won't boot now. I get the error kernel panic not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0) One of the updates was to kernel 2.6.32-5-686. I can boot in to safe mode with this kernel, and the upgrade wiped out the older version of the kernel. I have googled for possible solutions, but nothing helpful is popping up. I am also running grub, and not grub2, but that is OK for this kernel according to debian.org. Are the root and kernel lines of the regular and recovery lines diffeent (other than the recovery kernel line having single added)? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sywd4bbcj+nn7fghs_wrqjfv43tb1abr1jnp8g4ur2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: sluggish iceweasel
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:07:21 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: Hello Stephen, I have been using the iceweasel web browser for years; but in the past several weeks using an up-to-date jessie system, iceweasel has become very sluggish. No problems here, Stephen. Although, sometimes, flash can slow things a good deal but quitting and restarting Iceweasel cures that. I assume you've tried running in safe-mode and/or as a different user, to see if those make any difference? -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent I hit the ground, boy have I arrived! The History Of The World (Part 1) - The Damned signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: maintained web-browser ( was: Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus )
On 10/23/2013 02:50 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 23.10.2013 14:36, Marko Randjelovic a écrit : On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:45:55 +0200 Marko Randjelovic marko...@eunet.rs wrote: On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:46:16 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I think that midori is still maintained? Never heard of it, except in Debian repo, anyway I'll give it a try. Thanks I got very frustrated about Webkit (Midori uses Webkit). I found enormous number of bugs in CVE list, but most of them were related to products that use Webkit such as Google Chrome, I should determine if they originated from Webkit or those products, but it was impossible due to their number, then I wanted to check few of them, but it was also not possible because Webkit bug tracker didn't allow me to view relevant page, even when I registered and logged in. Web browsers that use Webkit: kazehakase, arora, epiphany-browser, luakit, midori, surf, xxxterm. I must admit that no webkit browser convinced me until now. You forgot uzbl, dillo, dwb... all of them are slow and/or buggy. I do not really think it is because they are using webkit, of course. On the other hand, there are not a lot of graphical web browsers using another renderer. Except firefox, IE and opera, I do not know any to be exact. And the developers of Opera decided to discontinue developing their own engine which leaves even fewer renderers. On the other hand, WebKit has been forked by Google for new Chrome browsers. This might (in the future) cause two different WebKit-like rendering engines to exist. cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit#Forks If you have any suggestion of webbrowser to try, I will be happy to learn it's name, even it I need to compile it. Web-browsers are one of the most use tools nowadays, but no one is really good, even in mainstream. The choices I have found are between fast and not too buggy ( mainstream ) which are bloated, and non bloated but surprisingly, slow and buggy as hell ( all other I have found ). I am also still looking for a smaller browser. Iceweasel is the most memory-intensive application apart from VirtualBox, 7-Zip and games I am usually running. However, I also like (and need) the extensibility of Iceweasel: I would not consider a browser useful unless you can disable JavaScript by default enabling it only temporarily like with NoScript. Linux-Fan -- http://masysma.ohost.de/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Marko Randjelovic marko...@eunet.rs wrote: I got very frustrated about Webkit (Midori uses Webkit). I found enormous number of bugs in CVE list, but most of them were related to products that use Webkit such as Google Chrome, I should determine if they originated from Webkit or those products, but it was impossible due to their number, then I wanted to check few of them, but it was also not possible because Webkit bug tracker didn't allow me to view relevant page, even when I registered and logged in. Hasn't Google forked Webkit? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sxd6xxkdbjeohny6ypzpn3qj6js5c8gkbsrmx8uvp6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: reset perms and ownerships
Hi, On 10/23/2013 01:33 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: [...] Hopefully he'll remember that using super user powers have to be made with care :) He will. :) Is there anything like rpm -V on the debian toolset? I'm trying to avoid punishing him (further) with reinstall... It does not do any control (which is the role of rpm -V if I understood correctly the man), but apt-get --reinstall might help. But if he did the changes on /etc, it won't work, because configuration files won't be modified ( it removes and installs, not purge and installs ). I already did something along the lines of... cd /var/cache/apt/archives ls -1 *.deb | xargs sudo dpkg -Gi (after manually fixing ownerships on sudo binaries, working dir's, and config/data files) ... which apparently solves some of the problems, but is far from fixing everything (ownerships of /etc and /var being just two examples). I think you might have solutions, but what has been changed, exactly? Software binaries in /usr? Configuration files in /etc? Other stuff in /var? Upon further investigation, here's what was done: sudo chown -R someuser:somegroup / Maybe simply changing back the perms and ownerships might be simpler, too. Thought about it, but I have no reference to mimic (meaning: I have no definite list of previous user and group ownerships to refer/compare to). Guess I'll bite the bullet and reinstall the machine (with the added advantage of solving other - unrelated - problems). Thank you for your help, Mário Barbosa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5267cf3e.9050...@gmail.com
Re: maintained web-browser ( was: Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus )
Le 23.10.2013 15:16, Linux-Fan a écrit : On 10/23/2013 02:50 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 23.10.2013 14:36, Marko Randjelovic a écrit : On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:45:55 +0200 Marko Randjelovic marko...@eunet.rs wrote: On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:46:16 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I think that midori is still maintained? Never heard of it, except in Debian repo, anyway I'll give it a try. Thanks I got very frustrated about Webkit (Midori uses Webkit). I found enormous number of bugs in CVE list, but most of them were related to products that use Webkit such as Google Chrome, I should determine if they originated from Webkit or those products, but it was impossible due to their number, then I wanted to check few of them, but it was also not possible because Webkit bug tracker didn't allow me to view relevant page, even when I registered and logged in. Web browsers that use Webkit: kazehakase, arora, epiphany-browser, luakit, midori, surf, xxxterm. I must admit that no webkit browser convinced me until now. You forgot uzbl, dillo, dwb... all of them are slow and/or buggy. I do not really think it is because they are using webkit, of course. On the other hand, there are not a lot of graphical web browsers using another renderer. Except firefox, IE and opera, I do not know any to be exact. And the developers of Opera decided to discontinue developing their own engine which leaves even fewer renderers. I have read this information here and there. But for now, version 12 still uses their home made engine, and it works correctly enough for me. On the other hand, WebKit has been forked by Google for new Chrome browsers. This might (in the future) cause two different WebKit-like rendering engines to exist. cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit#Forks If you have any suggestion of webbrowser to try, I will be happy to learn it's name, even it I need to compile it. Web-browsers are one of the most use tools nowadays, but no one is really good, even in mainstream. The choices I have found are between fast and not too buggy ( mainstream ) which are bloated, and non bloated but surprisingly, slow and buggy as hell ( all other I have found ). I am also still looking for a smaller browser. Iceweasel is the most memory-intensive application apart from VirtualBox, 7-Zip and games I am usually running. However, I also like (and need) the extensibility of Iceweasel: I would not consider a browser useful unless you can disable JavaScript by default enabling it only temporarily like with NoScript. This is indeed a vital feature, to be able to disable JS on a per website base. I am quite happy that opera provides it natively. It is only sad that it is not easily accessible. I personally favor websites which are usable without any plugin and JS, so I keep those features disabled by default, except websites I trust. At a time, I did the same for cookies, but now I simply forbid external ones. I should configure that back to no cookies at all I think. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a7bde51e36e7dc6de70542b5afcce...@neutralite.org
Re: How to ditch nouveau driver with nVidia card
On 2013-10-23, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I'd like to go back to the old `nv' driver I used to use when running Gentoo, or some other driver that will work with my card and just ditch that nouveau driver. Can anyone guide me a bit as to how to do that? I don't think you can go back to the 'nv' driver, which was supplanted by the 'nouveau' driver, without complications, though I could be wrong. You can go forward to the evil (though tempting because it works reliably (in my experience at least)) proprietary nvidia driver, guidance for the installation of which is available here: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl6fl2v.2nn.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: reset perms and ownerships
Le 23.10.2013 15:29, Mário Barbosa a écrit : Hi, On 10/23/2013 01:33 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: [...] Hopefully he'll remember that using super user powers have to be made with care :) He will. :) Is there anything like rpm -V on the debian toolset? I'm trying to avoid punishing him (further) with reinstall... It does not do any control (which is the role of rpm -V if I understood correctly the man), but apt-get --reinstall might help. But if he did the changes on /etc, it won't work, because configuration files won't be modified ( it removes and installs, not purge and installs ). I already did something along the lines of... cd /var/cache/apt/archives ls -1 *.deb | xargs sudo dpkg -Gi But this will install everything you installed if you never cleaned that dir... you may find useful this command in the future: $ aptitude search '~i' The ~i means all installed packages. The generated list will include all automatically installed packages so it's not perfect for your needs, but I do not remember the exact syntax to exclude them. Aptitude's manual should help here. (after manually fixing ownerships on sudo binaries, working dir's, and config/data files) ... which apparently solves some of the problems, but is far from fixing everything (ownerships of /etc and /var being just two examples). I think you might have solutions, but what has been changed, exactly? Software binaries in /usr? Configuration files in /etc? Other stuff in /var? Upon further investigation, here's what was done: sudo chown -R someuser:somegroup / wow... he really did that on /. You could add to the lesson to never use recursive changes on root directory I guess... Maybe simply changing back the perms and ownerships might be simpler, too. Thought about it, but I have no reference to mimic (meaning: I have no definite list of previous user and group ownerships to refer/compare to). Guess I'll bite the bullet and reinstall the machine (with the added advantage of solving other - unrelated - problems). You could try to not reinstall the whole system with installer, but simply use aptitude (with the ncurse interface) to purge (and not remove, so that configuration files are removed and reinstalled) all packages. Then, installing them back, if you know what you need. Given that you still have the files in /var/cache/apt/archives it should not involve any downloading, and you will skip the installer's questions. Between the purge and reinstalling, you could probably change back every ownership and perms to root in / (except /home of course) and remove users and groups which could have been installed by packages. It is simply a solution which might be faster than reinstalling. Or not, it depends on what you have installed so far. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/b6c307dee7091fe054504fad170dd...@neutralite.org
Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com writes: On Monday 21 October 2013 20:50:44 Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 03:11:03PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: That tedious. It was/is getting broken all the time, thus getting tangled up with everything else. It is beginning to be a real nuisance. Blacklist all the recent participants. Thanks all for your suggestions. I have followed this one! Lisi, I'm afraid it was *not* a suggestion, but a very bad joke. pgpzya2yu6zjW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED
On 10/23/2013 10:20 AM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: Blacklist all the recent participants. Thanks all for your suggestions. I have followed this one! Lisi, I'm afraid it was *not* a suggestion, but a very bad joke. be careful what you ask for:) rm -rf * -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: reset perms and ownerships
On 10/23/2013 02:48 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I already did something along the lines of... cd /var/cache/apt/archives ls -1 *.deb | xargs sudo dpkg -Gi But this will install everything you installed if you never cleaned that dir... you may find useful this command in the future: $ aptitude search '~i' The ~i means all installed packages. The generated list will include all automatically installed packages so it's not perfect for your needs, but I do not remember the exact syntax to exclude them. Aptitude's manual should help here. Thank you for this tip. Added it to my toolbox (my own private command cheat sheets). [...] Upon further investigation, here's what was done: sudo chown -R someuser:somegroup / wow... he really did that on /. You could add to the lesson to never use recursive changes on root directory I guess... In his defense, his only mistake was running a post-receive hook out of its context (different current dir, different user). What is written in that hook/script is my responsibility. Rhetoric: * Should he have done it? No. * Should I have enforced proper working dir? Probably yes. He is not a sysadmin, so maybe I should have anticipated some of these wildcard type of actions... You could try to not reinstall the whole system with installer, but simply use aptitude (with the ncurse interface) to purge (and not remove, so that configuration files are removed and reinstalled) all packages. Then, installing them back, if you know what you need. Given that you still have the files in /var/cache/apt/archives it should not involve any downloading, and you will skip the installer's questions. Between the purge and reinstalling, you could probably change back every ownership and perms to root in / (except /home of course) and remove users and groups which could have been installed by packages. It is simply a solution which might be faster than reinstalling. Or not, it depends on what you have installed so far. The idea of purging config files scares me quite a bit. Are edited files saved somewhere (like rpm does with the .rpmsave extensions)? Maybe then I'm trading one type of problem for another (the new one being validating that every config is set as needed)... Berenger, thank you for your help. Please, waste no more of your time on this. Best, Mário Barbosa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5267dc2a.9070...@gmail.com
Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED
On Wed 23 Oct 2013 at 13:27:11 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
Be aware though, that if somebody new posts to the thread, you'll see
their messages, and any quote(s) they contain so the thread re-emerges.
Also, blacklisting the people will block their posts to that, and any
other thread, not just those to the thread you were/are trying to quell.
OTOH, you might consider that a Good Thing®. ;-)
I think the OP probably realises that but it as well to spell it out for
other readers. A more surgical approach would be to target headers such
as References: and In-Reply-To: and filter on one or both of them. I
expect this would have its own drawbacks but at least it gets closer to
the blacklisting of all participants in a particular thread.
The idea is to get the Message-ID of the first post, but ones from
subsequent mails should also be useful. My perspective is that of a user
of Mutt. Mutt has the abilty to pipe a mail to a script; I think Kmail
can also do this.
In Mutt:
macro index f4 |/home/brian/extract
extract has
MID=$(cat - | grep -i ^Message-ID | cut -d -f2 | cut -d -f1)
What is done with the Message-ID is up to you. Using it in procmail is
one idea. However, I collect mail with POP3 and have mailfilter filter
mails on the server, so the script also has
echo DENY=\^References:.*${A}\
/home/brian/.mailfilter/mailfilterrc-refs
echo DENY=\^In-Reply-To:.*${A}\
/home/brian/.mailfilter/mailfilterrc-refs
in it.
Pressing F4 in mutt takes a second and the DENY rules delete the mails
for the thread you do not want to see when the POP3 server is accessed.
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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:20:37 Dmitrii Kashin wrote: On Monday 21 October 2013 20:50:44 Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 03:11:03PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: That tedious. It was/is getting broken all the time, thus getting tangled up with everything else. It is beginning to be a real nuisance. Blacklist all the recent participants. Thanks all for your suggestions. I have followed this one! Lisi, I'm afraid it was *not* a suggestion, but a very bad joke. I have been accused before of having no sense of humour. :-( But it really _was_ a good suggestion. I have been barely reading one of the posters for some time anyway because I find him/her such hard work to read and try to understand. So you were helpful in spite of yourself! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201310231537.56121.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 13:27:11 Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:41:57 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 21 October 2013 20:50:44 Jonathan Dowland wrote: Blacklist all the recent participants. Thanks all for your suggestions. I have followed this one! Be aware though, that if somebody new posts to the thread, you'll see their messages, and any quote(s) they contain so the thread re-emerges. Also, blacklisting the people will block their posts to that, and any other thread, not just those to the thread you were/are trying to quell. OTOH, you might consider that a Good Thing®. ;-) :-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201310231538.58144.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Rebooting and HDD spinup / spindown cycles [WAS: Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1]
On Wed, 2013-10-23 at 12:44 +, Curt wrote: On 2013-10-23, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Isn't that plausible? I'm the source, I care for facts, not for claims from vendors. From your favorite company: research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf Power Cycles. The power cycles indicator counts the number of times a drive is powered up and down. In a server-class deployment, in which drives are powered continuously, we do not expect to reach high enough power cycle counts to see any effects on failure rates. Our results find that for drives aged up to two years, this is true, there is no significant correlation between fail- ures and high power cycles count. But for drives 3 years and older, higher power cycle counts can increase the absolute failure rate by over 2%. We believe this is due more to our population mix than to aging effects. More- over, this correlation could be the effect (not the cause) of troubled machines that require many repair iterations and thus many power cycles to be fixed. Power-on hours. Although we do not dispute that power-on hours might have an effect on drive lifetime, it happens that in our deployment the age of the drive is an excellent approximation for that parameter, given that our drives remain powered on for most of their life time. Key findings: · Contrary to previously reported results, we found very little correlation between failure rates and ei- ther elevated temperature or activity levels. · Some SMART parameters (scan errors, realloca- tion counts, offline reallocation counts, and proba- tional counts) have a large impact on failure proba- bility. · Given the lack of occurrence of predictive SMART signals on a large fraction of failed drives, it is un- likely that an accurate predictive failure model can be built based on these signals alone. Don't confuse 12 Power_Cycle_Count with 193 Load_Cycle_Count -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382539226.705.1.camel@archlinux
Re: reset perms and ownerships
Le 23.10.2013 16:24, Mário Barbosa a écrit : On 10/23/2013 02:48 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I already did something along the lines of... cd /var/cache/apt/archives ls -1 *.deb | xargs sudo dpkg -Gi But this will install everything you installed if you never cleaned that dir... you may find useful this command in the future: $ aptitude search '~i' The ~i means all installed packages. The generated list will include all automatically installed packages so it's not perfect for your needs, but I do not remember the exact syntax to exclude them. Aptitude's manual should help here. Thank you for this tip. Added it to my toolbox (my own private command cheat sheets). [...] Upon further investigation, here's what was done: sudo chown -R someuser:somegroup / wow... he really did that on /. You could add to the lesson to never use recursive changes on root directory I guess... In his defense, his only mistake was running a post-receive hook out of its context (different current dir, different user). What is written in that hook/script is my responsibility. Rhetoric: * Should he have done it? No. * Should I have enforced proper working dir? Probably yes. He is not a sysadmin, so maybe I should have anticipated some of these wildcard type of actions... Checking all external data is always a good idea in programming. Users (humans or external softwares) can do really strange things sometimes. You could try to not reinstall the whole system with installer, but simply use aptitude (with the ncurse interface) to purge (and not remove, so that configuration files are removed and reinstalled) all packages. Then, installing them back, if you know what you need. Given that you still have the files in /var/cache/apt/archives it should not involve any downloading, and you will skip the installer's questions. Between the purge and reinstalling, you could probably change back every ownership and perms to root in / (except /home of course) and remove users and groups which could have been installed by packages. It is simply a solution which might be faster than reinstalling. Or not, it depends on what you have installed so far. The idea of purging config files scares me quite a bit. Are edited files saved somewhere (like rpm does with the .rpmsave extensions)? Maybe then I'm trading one type of problem for another (the new one being validating that every config is set as needed)... No, they are not saved, you have to do that manually (but it only affects those in /etc, not userland files). Exactly as if you were trying to reinstall from scratch, in fact. Berenger, thank you for your help. Please, waste no more of your time on this. Not a real loss of time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ce16e902ab687b3d36743e111a349...@neutralite.org
Re: How to ditch nouveau driver with nVidia card
On Wed, 2013-10-23 at 13:50 +, Curt wrote: On 2013-10-23, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I'd like to go back to the old `nv' driver I used to use when running Gentoo, or some other driver that will work with my card and just ditch that nouveau driver. Can anyone guide me a bit as to how to do that? I don't think you can go back to the 'nv' driver, which was supplanted by the 'nouveau' driver, without complications, though I could be wrong. You can go forward to the evil (though tempting because it works reliably (in my experience at least)) proprietary nvidia driver, guidance for the installation of which is available here: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Yes, nv already was removed from most distros, when nouveau was nearly unusable. Nowadays nouveau is very good, I would test nouveau even for 3D acceleration, before using the proprietary driver. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382539989.705.4.camel@archlinux
Re: sluggish iceweasel
Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com writes: I have been using the iceweasel web browser for years; but in the past several weeks using an up-to-date jessie system, iceweasel has become very sluggish. Even the simplest operations, like scrolling the screen, have become so sluggish that iceweasel has become almost unusable. I do not see this problem. What is your hardware? pgpX7AQRnyVfR.pgp Description: PGP signature
