Re: [WARNING] libc6 upgrade from 2.17.97 to 2.18.1 (unstable) fails -now segfaults on apt-get etc.

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Sb, 22 feb 14, 01:52:27, Robin wrote:
> **This of course may apply only to my PC but just in case it is not**:
> 
> Just done dist-upgrade 01:30 22/02/2014 and upgrade fails whilst
> updating libc6. Applications that were open are still functioning but
> everything else segfaults.
> Looks like a reinstall

Just did the very same upgrade without any issues. I even did a full 
restart (my laptop hasn't seen a reboot for about 20 days which is not 
very safe on sid, unless you take care to restart your apps as needed).

Kind regards,
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Re: Seeking moral support after being cyber bullied for my post warning about bitlocker

[Zenaan Harkness]

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> I felt that I've been cyber bullied for my post warning about bitlocker,
> and I've blog the story at,
> http://sfxpt.wordpress.com/2014/02/21/bitlocker-guideline-and-precaution/

This list is not appropriate for advertising your blog.
Please use d-community-offtopic list.

> Please take a look and see if you have the same feeling.

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Seeking moral support after being cyber bullied for my post warning about bitlocker

[T o n g]

Hi, 

I felt that I've been cyber bullied for my post warning about bitlocker, 
and I've blog the story at, 
http://sfxpt.wordpress.com/2014/02/21/bitlocker-guideline-and-precaution/

Please take a look and see if you have the same feeling. 

Thanks


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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

[Jerry Stuckle]

On 2/21/2014 10:04 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 22/02/14 13:35, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 2/21/2014 9:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan wrote:

isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles,
parse the string
   3.12-1-amd64
they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
   3.12.9-1
then parsing it would yield the expected result.
---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

Is the reported kernel-version string, "3.12-1-amd64", something
that I could change by compiling a custom kernel?


Might a shell script that output the expected string work?


Or sed?
Or export?
Or, um, more information about what Debian release is being used and the
"third-party" software. :)


If the compiled program calls the uname() system call,


Good point. I should have given that more than a few seconds thought -
and I suspect Jerry has pointed out a simpler way than intercepting sys
calls.

Is the name of the third-party software a secret?



then
script-related fixes
won't work. I don't have the source to the compiled program.

I'm running Debian testing (jessie).


Kind regards


And kind regards to you for replying so promptly to my plea for help!

What I'm wondering is whether I can get uname to return the desired
format by somehow compiling a custom kernel.

If so, then any help doing that properly would be appreciated.



I'm not sure if it will work or not - I'm far from a Debian kernel
expert.


Likewise.

http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-versions.html:-
"Kernel version

 This is the version that appears in kernel messages, filenames,
package names and the output of 'uname -r'. In official kernel packages
it follows the format upstreamversion[-abiname][-featureset]-flavour. It
is not changed for every new package version. The abiname is changed as
explained below.

Many programs parse the kernel version string reported by the uname
system call or command and expect to find at least 3 version components
separated by dots. For compatibility, the official kernel packages
currently add '.0' to the upstream version, but this will be dropped in
wheezy+1."

So it appears to be possible.


But one thing to consider: are there any packages which require
the correct Debian format?


abiname shouldn't change should it?



I wouldn't think so - but I also don't know.  However, if you do change 
something basic like the kernel version, what else will it affect?  You 
might get a kernel which will boot but nothing will run, for instance.


Just a thought.  I always worry about side effects :)

Jerry


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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

[Scott Ferguson]

On 22/02/14 13:35, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 2/21/2014 9:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan wrote:
> isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles,
> parse the string
>   3.12-1-amd64
> they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
>   3.12.9-1
> then parsing it would yield the expected result.
> ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---
>
> Is the reported kernel-version string, "3.12-1-amd64", something
> that I could change by compiling a custom kernel?

 Might a shell script that output the expected string work?
>>>
>>> Or sed?
>>> Or export?
>>> Or, um, more information about what Debian release is being used and the
>>> "third-party" software. :)
>>
>> If the compiled program calls the uname() system call,

Good point. I should have given that more than a few seconds thought -
and I suspect Jerry has pointed out a simpler way than intercepting sys
calls.

Is the name of the third-party software a secret?


>> then
>> script-related fixes
>> won't work. I don't have the source to the compiled program.
>>
>> I'm running Debian testing (jessie).
>>
>>> Kind regards
>>
>> And kind regards to you for replying so promptly to my plea for help!
>>
>> What I'm wondering is whether I can get uname to return the desired
>> format by somehow compiling a custom kernel.
>>
>> If so, then any help doing that properly would be appreciated.
>>
> 
> I'm not sure if it will work or not - I'm far from a Debian kernel
> expert.  

Likewise.

http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-versions.html:-
"Kernel version

This is the version that appears in kernel messages, filenames,
package names and the output of 'uname -r'. In official kernel packages
it follows the format upstreamversion[-abiname][-featureset]-flavour. It
is not changed for every new package version. The abiname is changed as
explained below.

Many programs parse the kernel version string reported by the uname
system call or command and expect to find at least 3 version components
separated by dots. For compatibility, the official kernel packages
currently add '.0' to the upstream version, but this will be dropped in
wheezy+1."

So it appears to be possible.

> But one thing to consider: are there any packages which require
> the correct Debian format? 

abiname shouldn't change should it?

> If so, what would happen to them if you
> changed it in the kernel?
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 


Kind regards


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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

[Scott Ferguson]

On 22/02/14 13:20, Thomas Vaughan wrote:
 isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse 
 the string
  3.12-1-amd64
 they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
  3.12.9-1
 then parsing it would yield the expected result.
 ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

 Is the reported kernel-version string, "3.12-1-amd64", something that I 
 could change by compiling a custom kernel?
>>>
>>> Might a shell script that output the expected string work?
>>
>> Or sed?
>> Or export?
>> Or, um, more information about what Debian release is being used and the
>> "third-party" software. :)
> 
> If the compiled program calls the uname() system call, then script-related 
> fixes
> won't work. I don't have the source to the compiled program.

Aaah - more information makes a difference. Yes - sed won't work with
compiled (though you can often make simple changes in a compiled file
with a binary editor - simpler than NOP hops).

an alias will work.

> 
> I'm running Debian testing (jessie).
> 
>> Kind regards
> 
> And kind regards to you for replying so promptly to my plea for help!
> 
> What I'm wondering is whether I can get uname to return the desired
> format by somehow compiling a custom kernel.

Long way - try an alias first - it 'should' work fine. (The Debian
promise applies - if it breaks you get to keep both pieces).

> 
> If so, then any help doing that properly would be appreciated.

Kind regards


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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

[Jerry Stuckle]

On 2/21/2014 9:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan wrote:

isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse the 
string
  3.12-1-amd64
they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
  3.12.9-1
then parsing it would yield the expected result.
---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

Is the reported kernel-version string, "3.12-1-amd64", something that I could 
change by compiling a custom kernel?


Might a shell script that output the expected string work?


Or sed?
Or export?
Or, um, more information about what Debian release is being used and the
"third-party" software. :)


If the compiled program calls the uname() system call, then script-related fixes
won't work. I don't have the source to the compiled program.

I'm running Debian testing (jessie).


Kind regards


And kind regards to you for replying so promptly to my plea for help!

What I'm wondering is whether I can get uname to return the desired
format by somehow compiling a custom kernel.

If so, then any help doing that properly would be appreciated.



I'm not sure if it will work or not - I'm far from a Debian kernel 
expert.  But one thing to consider: are there any packages which require 
the correct Debian format?  If so, what would happen to them if you 
changed it in the kernel?


Jerry


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[Fwd: Re: Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version]

[Ralf Mardorf]

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Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 03:28:15 +0100
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On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 19:20 -0700, Thomas Vaughan wrote:
> What I'm wondering is whether I can get uname to return the desired
> format by somehow compiling a custom kernel.

Yes you can, by getting the source code from kernel.org.
If you simply copy the config from the Debians kernel, then IIRC
# make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image kernel-headers
won't use the Debians naming, but name the package and the output for
uname -r and any string else as the original kernel.org name is.



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Re: Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

[Thomas Vaughan]

>>> isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse 
>>> the string
>>>  3.12-1-amd64
>>> they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
>>>  3.12.9-1
>>> then parsing it would yield the expected result.
>>> ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---
>>>
>>> Is the reported kernel-version string, "3.12-1-amd64", something that I 
>>> could change by compiling a custom kernel?
>>
>> Might a shell script that output the expected string work?
>
> Or sed?
> Or export?
> Or, um, more information about what Debian release is being used and the
> "third-party" software. :)

If the compiled program calls the uname() system call, then script-related fixes
won't work. I don't have the source to the compiled program.

I'm running Debian testing (jessie).

> Kind regards

And kind regards to you for replying so promptly to my plea for help!

What I'm wondering is whether I can get uname to return the desired
format by somehow compiling a custom kernel.

If so, then any help doing that properly would be appreciated.

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Re: Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

[Thomas Vaughan]

>>> isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles,
>>> parse the string
>>>  3.12-1-amd64
>>> they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
>>>  3.12.9-1
>>> then parsing it would yield the expected result.
>>> ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---
>>>
>>> Is the reported kernel-version string, "3.12-1-amd64", something
>>> that I could change by compiling a custom kernel?
>>
>> Might a shell script that output the expected string work?
>
> Or link or what ever? I don't understand what the software is doing,
> that the output of uname -r doesn't fit to some other string.

I think that the build system is using the uname(1) command, but the
compiled software is calling the uname(2) system call.

> More information is needed.

I have not very much information, but let's assume the worst: The vendor
has some compiled code that calls the uname() system call.

Is it possible by compiling a custom kernel for me to make what uname()
returns be the format that the vendor desires, something like '3.12.9-1', or
whatever?

> Sure, Debian packages might be named 3.x for kernels 3.x.y, 3.x.z,
> 3.x.n. I like this, since I don't need to manually fix my manually
> customized grub.cfg, when such a kernel is upgraded and especially those
> kernels are updated and older versions automatically will be removed,
> while kernels build by myself are never touched.

I'm not sure that I understand. The package name is one thing, but isn't
what uname returns something else?

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Re: Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

[Thomas Vaughan]

>> isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse the 
>> string
>>  3.12-1-amd64
>> they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
>>  3.12.9-1
>> then parsing it would yield the expected result.
>> ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---
>>
>> Is the reported kernel-version string, "3.12-1-amd64",
>> something that I could change by compiling a custom kernel?
>
> Might a shell script that output the expected string work?

An appropriately named shell script in the right place in the path
might take care of uname(1), but I don't see how to take care of
uname(2), the system call.

When the vendor says that the software parses the string, I think that
the software is calling uname().

So my question is whether there is a way by compiling a custom kernel
for me to alter what the uname() system call reports.

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[WARNING] libc6 upgrade from 2.17.97 to 2.18.1 (unstable) fails -now segfaults on apt-get etc.

[Robin]

**This of course may apply only to my PC but just in case it is not**:

Just done dist-upgrade 01:30 22/02/2014 and upgrade fails whilst
updating libc6. Applications that were open are still functioning but
everything else segfaults.
Looks like a reinstall

-- 
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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

[Scott Ferguson]

On 22/02/14 11:03, Glenn English wrote:
> 
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan  wrote:
> 
>> isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse the 
>> string
>>  3.12-1-amd64
>> they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
>>  3.12.9-1
>> then parsing it would yield the expected result.
>> ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---
>>
>> Is the reported kernel-version string, "3.12-1-amd64", something that I 
>> could change by compiling a custom kernel?
> 
> Might a shell script that output the expected string work?
> 


Or sed?
Or export?
Or, um, more information about what Debian release is being used and the
"third-party" software. :)


Kind regards

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Dunno how to solve the problem but I know what you need to know to fix
it for me? ;)


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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

[Ralf Mardorf]

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On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 17:03 -0700, Glenn English wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan 
wrote:
> 
> > isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles,
parse the string
> >  3.12-1-amd64
> > they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
> >  3.12.9-1
> > then parsing it would yield the expected result.
> > ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---
> > 
> > Is the reported kernel-version string, "3.12-1-amd64", something
that I could change by compiling a custom kernel?
> 
> Might a shell script that output the expected string work?

Or link or what ever? I don't understand what the software is doing,
that the output of uname -r doesn't fit to some other string.

More information is needed.

Sure, Debian packages might be named 3.x for kernels 3.x.y, 3.x.z,
3.x.n. I like this, since I don't need to manually fix my manually
customized grub.cfg, when such a kernel is upgraded and especially those
kernels are updated and older versions automatically will be removed,
while kernels build by myself are never touched.


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Re: Installing nodejs binaries as a .deb package

[Scott Ferguson]

On 22/02/14 11:39, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 22/02/14 09:49, Blaine LaFreniere wrote:
>> Hi, I was wondering how I might be able to install the nodejs binaries
>> as a .deb package, so I could easily uninstall it later.
> 
> Why not:-
> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installing-Node.js-via-package-manager
> 
> Or:-
> http://blog.blakesimpson.co.uk/read/41-install-node-js-on-debian-wheezy
> 
>>
>> I tried to use the alien utility to convert a .tgz file to a .deb, but
>> after installing with dpkg -i , it didn't appear to install
>> correctly, because I couldn't access the binaries, and when I do `which
>> node`, there are no results.
>>
>>
> 
> I've not always had a lot of success with alien in the past, so where
> possible I avoid it.
> 
> P.S. What Debian release you are trying to install to may be relevant -
> likewise any error messages or lack thereof.

Sorry - hit Enter too soon.

nodejs *is* in the Sid repostitory.

> 
> Kind regards
> 


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Re: Installing nodejs binaries as a .deb package

[Scott Ferguson]

On 22/02/14 09:49, Blaine LaFreniere wrote:
> Hi, I was wondering how I might be able to install the nodejs binaries
> as a .deb package, so I could easily uninstall it later.

Why not:-
https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installing-Node.js-via-package-manager

Or:-
http://blog.blakesimpson.co.uk/read/41-install-node-js-on-debian-wheezy

> 
> I tried to use the alien utility to convert a .tgz file to a .deb, but
> after installing with dpkg -i , it didn't appear to install
> correctly, because I couldn't access the binaries, and when I do `which
> node`, there are no results.
> 
> 

I've not always had a lot of success with alien in the past, so where
possible I avoid it.

P.S. What Debian release you are trying to install to may be relevant -
likewise any error messages or lack thereof.

Kind regards


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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

[Glenn English]

On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan  wrote:

> isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse the 
> string
>  3.12-1-amd64
> they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
>  3.12.9-1
> then parsing it would yield the expected result.
> ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---
> 
> Is the reported kernel-version string, "3.12-1-amd64", something that I could 
> change by compiling a custom kernel?

Might a shell script that output the expected string work?

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Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

[Thomas Vaughan]

I have downloaded some proprietary software that I want to install onto a
64-bit Debian machine. The software is written for 64-bit linux, but the
kernel version reported, for example, by uname (and perhaps by some system
call that the compiled software uses) is not in a format that the software
expects.

---BEGIN QUOTE FROM VENDOR---
Its not that
 3.12-1-amd64
isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse
the string
 3.12-1-amd64
they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
 3.12.9-1
then parsing it would yield the expected result.
---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

Is the reported kernel-version string, "3.12-1-amd64", something that I
could change by compiling a custom kernel?

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Installing nodejs binaries as a .deb package

[Blaine LaFreniere]

Hi, I was wondering how I might be able to install the nodejs binaries 
as a .deb package, so I could easily uninstall it later.


I tried to use the alien utility to convert a .tgz file to a .deb, but 
after installing with dpkg -i , it didn't appear to install 
correctly, because I couldn't access the binaries, and when I do `which 
node`, there are no results.



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Re: Debian wheezy 7.4 preseed install fails with error "mirror does not support the specified release (wheezy)

[Scott Ferguson]

On 22/02/14 07:00, Sandeep Raman wrote:
> OS - Debian wheezy 7.4 amd64 iso cd1
> Preseed section of mirror:
> d-i mirror/protocol string ftp
> d-i mirror/ftp/hostname string ftp.iitm.ac.in 
> d-i mirror/ftp/directory string /debian/
> d-i mirror/ftp/proxy string 

That 'should' work - assuming the hostname line wasn't tried verbatim -
and dependant on how you are using preseed.cfg and your boot parameters
(see my questions further down).
ftp 'can' be problematic and if you have a choice choose http.

Try:-
(protocol string doesn't seem to be required if not selecting ftp)
d-i mirror/country string enter information manually
d-i mirror/http/hostname string ftp.iitm.ac.in
d-i mirror/http/directory string /debian/
d-i mirror/http/proxy string



> 
> I have given different mirrors and even used http.
> From console and browser, i'm able to
> fetch ftp://ftp.iitm.ac.in/debian/dists/wheezy/Release
> 
> Any pointers in solving this.

First tell us what you are trying to do

Are you adding the preseed.cfg to the CD *or* calling it from the boot
prompt?

What boot parameters are you using?

What is the rest of your preseed.cfg?
NOTE: the answers to the previous two questions determine what's
required for preseed.cfg to work - please put the preseed.cfg on
paste.debian.net and link to it in your post.

Did you try Alt+F4 during the install to see what the problem was? If so
what were the messages?

Have you selected the "Save debug logs" option which starts a simple web
server and allows you to get meaningful installation information?

> 
> Thanks,
> Sandeep.

You may find this preseed.cfg useful to compare yours to:-
http://paste.debian.net/83397
I use it *in* a CD, and boot the CD with:-
"install auto DEBCONF_DEBUG=5".
It auto-partitions, builds a stripped-down box, and includes ssh (ssh
installer@ipAddress). Modify it suit your needs and circumstances.

Kind regards


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Re: mount as read/write on demand

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Vi, 21 feb 14, 22:25:17, binary wrote:
> i am afraid that the
> 
> mount -o remount,rw is not working.

You'll have to give much more detail than this, like what was the 
result/error message/etc.

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Re: mount as read/write on demand

[binary]

i am afraid that the

mount -o remount,rw is not working.

is there a howto for this?
i am running squeeze 6.0.9



Στις 19/2/2014 17:50, ο/η Efraim Flashner έγραψε:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:47:19 +0100
Erwan David  wrote:


Le 18/02/2014 15:42, binary dreamer a écrit :

Hello everyone.
  
  
I am running some services in a remote headless system. the system

runs debian 6.
I would like the system to be read only by default. in case of an
update/upgrade I could run in read/write to process the job.
the filesystem is ext2 and it runs in a cf card.
  
I have seen voyage Linux that has this functionality but it misses

kernel headers. It is a real pain to compile the headers in this
underpowered box.
  
I would like to ask if someone could help me create a system

read/write on demand.
  
  
Thanks in advance.
  
  

mount -o remount,rw  should do the trick (and mount -o
remount,ro after use)



and change the listing in /etc/fstab from rw to ro



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Re: Re: Old software in debian allowed?

[Ralf Mardorf]

If you only need to build a package for yourself, it must be something
similar to that, you should try

# apt-get source FOO_BAR
# apt-get build-dep FOO_BAR
# mv -vi FOO_BAR-xy/ FOO_BAR-pq
# wget FOO_BAR'S_NEW_SOURCE_FROM_UPSTREAM
# tar xvjf FOO_BAR-...
# cd FOO_BAR-...
# gedit debian/changelog
# gedit debian/rules
# libtoolize --force --copy --automake
# aclocal
# autoreconf
# debuild -b -us -uc
# dpkg -i

if this shouldn't work, try to compile the most common way, configure,
make, make install, but replace make only or make and make install by
checkinstall

# ./configure
# checkinstall --install=no
# dpkg -i


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Debian wheezy 7.4 preseed install fails with error "mirror does not support the specified release (wheezy)

[Sandeep Raman]

OS - Debian wheezy 7.4 amd64 iso cd1
Preseed section of mirror:
d-i mirror/protocol string ftp
d-i mirror/ftp/hostname string ftp.iitm.ac.in
d-i mirror/ftp/directory string /debian/
d-i mirror/ftp/proxy string

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=80657 - Suggestion from the
link to have a static ip has been tested and it doesn't solve the problem
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=684796 - No clear solution

I have given different mirrors and even used http.
>From console and browser, i'm able to fetch
ftp://ftp.iitm.ac.in/debian/dists/wheezy/Release

Any pointers in solving this.

Thanks,
Sandeep.

Re: Re: Old software in debian allowed?

[Hans]

On Jo, 20 feb 14, 20:01:04, Hans wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> just a simple question: Does debian accept suggestions of new packages, 
> although they are old and orphaned by the original devolper? 
 
>It depends a lot on the package. There are packages that haven't seen 
>updates for a few releases and are working just fine. On the other hand 
>if the package might be a security risk the Security Team will object to 
>its (re)inclusion. This is just an example, there may be other reasons 
>to keep the package out of Debian.

>Besides, just a suggestion (you probably mean Request for Package, 
>a.k.a. RFP) instead of an actual intent (Intent to package, a.k.a. ITP) 
>will not do much unless somebody is actually willing to package it and 
>upload it to Debian. 

>However, don't let this deter you from making a package. Even if it is 
>only for you own use in the long run it is probably better and you also 
>gain experience in packaging. If you make it available on the internet 
>some other people might also find it useful.

>Hope this explains,
>Andrei
-

Hi Andrei, 

you are right, packaging for my own would teach me a lot. But sorry, after I 
tried hard, I give now up. After I read the packaging-tutorials I was quite of 
good hope, to get it all running. In my dumb thoughts, I though, it might just 
be easy, just to change some version nuimbers in the soursce, some lib-names 
and the thing can be build on a modern system. 

As I am completely noob in programming and packaging, I must admit, that this 
project is much too difficulty for me. This begins with errors, I did not 
understand and a lot of not understanding, what is happening at all. 

As there is no experienced one in the near, who I can ask, I am completely 
stuck. 

It is a pity, as this program is working well and IMO would be a fine addition 
for debian. Personally for me, it is not such big pity, as there is already a 
debian package available, which can be installed and which is working still 
very, very well.

However, it would be much finer, if it could be rebuild with modern libs!

Anyway, I give up, sorry for that.

For those, who want to laugh a little bit over me and maybe fix things within 5 
minutes, I can send my tries in a packed file (2.3 MB). 

Andrei, thank you for inviting me to do those tries. If I wouldn't have tried, 
I wouldn't have recognized, how difficult packaging is. This is also an 
important lesson, I think.

Have a nice weekend!

Best regards

Hans

 


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OT: repro & ejabberd installed automatically

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 16:20 +0100, chymian wrote:
> Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden zusätzlich installiert:
> Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
> 0 Pakete aktualisiert, 69 zusätzlich installiert, 19 werden entfernt
> und 100 nicht aktualisiert.

Next time consider to run

LANG=C command --options

LANG=C causes temporary English output.



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Re: update-grub

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Ric Moore wrote:

> After bending my brains for a day fixing little problems, after 
> upgrading to Jessie, I'm noticing a weird behavior.
> 
> I have Ubuntu on /dev/sda3 and Debian on /dev/sdb1. When I run 
> update-grub, it notices the Ubuntu partition yet when I boot, the old 
> selection for Ubuntu is no longer there. It used to be, and poof it's 
> gone now. Any assist would be appreciated. Thanx, Ric

Did you do a 'grub-install' to the MBR of the drive that is the
primary boot drive, ie /dev/sda?

   For example, 'grub-install /dev/sda'

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Fwd: Re: Problem with Sound Volume

[Klaus]

resending to list


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Problem with Sound Volume
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:00:19 -0500
From: Ric Moore 
To: Klaus 

On 02/20/2014 03:44 PM, Klaus wrote:

On 20/02/14 19:37, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

On 02/20/2014 02:02 PM, Klaus wrote:

amixer -c0 cset numid=20 100

Thanks for the reply.

Here's what I got:

omputation@AbNormal:~$ amixer -c0 controls | grep -i volume
numid=34,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume'
numid=11,iface=MIXER,name='Headphone Playback Volume'
numid=50,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Playback Volume'
numid=26,iface=MIXER,name='Front Mic Boost Volume'
numid=13,iface=MIXER,name='Front Mic Playback Volume'
numid=1,iface=MIXER,name='Front Playback Volume'
numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='Surround Playback Volume'
numid=5,iface=MIXER,name='Center Playback Volume'
numid=6,iface=MIXER,name='LFE Playback Volume'
numid=28,iface=MIXER,name='Line Boost Volume'
numid=17,iface=MIXER,name='Line Playback Volume'
numid=22,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Volume'
numid=24,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Volume',index=1
numid=27,iface=MIXER,name='Rear Mic Boost Volume'
numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Rear Mic Playback Volume'
numid=9,iface=MIXER,name='Side Playback Volume'
computation@AbNormal:~$
computation@AbNormal:~$ amixer -c0 cset numid=34 100
numid=34,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume'
   ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=64,step=0
   : values=64
   | dBscale-min=-64.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0
computation@AbNormal:~$

I have sound, but the volume isn't what it used to be>



Have you checked the other volume control setting?

Also, with
$ amixer -c0 contents
you'll see all setting for all controls for card0. Anything suspect?

What speakers do you use? How are they connected to the motherboard?
(Ralf asked that before...)


This one hurts. Be sure that your speakers are plugged in to power, if
they have their own amp, and that it is ~turned on~. That might explain
the tinny sound. And, that they are plugged into the correct socket if
they are not self powered. If you're plugged into the stereo line-out
you will get tinny sound if the speakers are not self powered with a
built-in amp. Your manual will tell you which is correct. Good luck! Ric


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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

[Richard Owlett]

Darac Marjal wrote:

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 02:10:05PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Friday 21 February 2014 12:32:00 Richard Owlett wrote:

I have *NO* internet connectivity.


You must have some internet connectivity, somewhere, in order to be
able to converse with this list. :-/


Yes, but sending DVD ISOs over the mailing list is going to be frowned
upon. Implementing an email backend for apt is also probably not worth
it.

If Richard says he has no internet connectivity, then he has no internet
connectivity. I've had to deal with air-gapped debian systems before.
They're a bit of a pain, but they are often required.



Strains of the Alleluia Chorus form Handel's Messiah ;]

I'm perhaps going one step further - purposely inserting large 
"air gaps".


May we communicate privately by email. You may have solved 
problems I've not yet recognized.




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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

[Richard Owlett]

Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 14:10 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Friday 21 February 2014 12:32:00 Richard Owlett wrote:

I have *NO* internet connectivity.


You must have some internet connectivity, somewhere, in order to be
able to converse with this list. :-/


No, the OP must not have access to the Internet by the OPs Linux
computer.

The OP is writing from a Windows machine.

Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1





thank you THANK YOU *THANK YOU* 
I have minimal connectivity at home.
I'm working on a possible missions project for church which can 
not assume internet availability. It can not even assume I will 
be available. The only mode of communication that can assumed is 
surface mail.




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Re: Old software in debian allowed?

[Slavko]

Hi,

Dňa Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:24:02 +0200 Andrei POPESCU
 napísal:

> On Jo, 20 feb 14, 20:01:04, Hans wrote:
> > just a simple question: Does debian accept suggestions of new
> > packages, although they are old and orphaned by the original
> > devolper? 
>  
> It depends a lot on the package.


In nowadays it seems, that only old software is allowed inDebian. The
virtualbox package was removed from testing due "not old enough". See
removal hint here:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/virtualbox/news/20140219T163913Z.html

Sure, it is a joke, but it is reality how useful are removal hints in
last weeks...

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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

[Darac Marjal]

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 02:10:05PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 21 February 2014 12:32:00 Richard Owlett wrote:
> > I have *NO* internet connectivity.
> 
> You must have some internet connectivity, somewhere, in order to be 
> able to converse with this list. :-/

Yes, but sending DVD ISOs over the mailing list is going to be frowned
upon. Implementing an email backend for apt is also probably not worth
it.

If Richard says he has no internet connectivity, then he has no internet
connectivity. I've had to deal with air-gapped debian systems before.
They're a bit of a pain, but they are often required.



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Re: Debian live USB install fails to boot

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Tom Heuser wrote:

> Greetings all...
> 
> I tried to install
> debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isoonto
> a 16gb sandisk USB using both Unetbootin and Linux Live USB in Windows
> and when I try to boot it all I get is "missing operating system."
> Does anyone know why this is happening?

I had a similar situation, and in your case unetbootin didn't work.
What I finally did was just use dd. Although, I did it from a Linux
machine, not from Windows. But dd is available for Windows.

I needed to install Wheezy-LXDE (32-bit) on a Eeepc 900.  So, no CD
drive.  From another Linux machine onto which I had already downloaded
the ISO, I just dd if= of= (that
would be something like /dev/sdb, no partition number.  Make sure the
flash drive is unmounted.

That was all I did, and the flash drive booted right up and the install
went normally.

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repro & ejabberd installed automatically

[chymian]

hello,
the last update of possible updates, suggested by apt-show-versions -u
on my KDE-jessie system
today with the command

aptitude -f install `apt-show-versions -u|cut -d":" -f1|grep testing|xargs`

installed repro & ejabberd.

checking with "aptitude why" for ejabberd & repro didn't gave any reasons.

not that I'm not interested in federated sip – in fact, I'm playing with
that on my server, but how esoteric did aptitude got that it know that? ;)
or is there a bigger plan that every debian-installation is a fed. VOIP
box? running it's own jabber server and sip proxy?

can anybody shed some light on this please?

TIA
günter



Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden zusätzlich installiert:
bzr dvipng ejabberd elyxer erlang-asn1 erlang-base erlang-crypto
erlang-inets erlang-mnesia erlang-odbc erlang-public-key
erlang-runtime-tools erlang-ssl erlang-syntax-tools fonts-lmodern{b}
fonts-texgyre{b} gnome{b} kppp latex-beamer{b} latex-xcolor{b}
libdb5.1++ libfreeradius-client2 libodbc1 libptexenc1 libresiprocate-1.9
lmodern{b} luatex{b} lynx-cur lyx lyx-common{b}
network-manager-pptp network-manager-vpnc pgf{b} ppp pptp-linux
preview-latex-style{b} prosper{b} ps2eps python-bzrlib python-gpgme
python-keyring python-lazr.uri python-oauth python-paramiko
python-wadllib repro tex-gyre{b} texlive-base{b} texlive-binaries{b}
texlive-extra-utils{b} texlive-font-utils{b}
texlive-fonts-recommended{b} texlive-fonts-recommended-doc{b}
texlive-generic-extra{b}
texlive-generic-recommended{b} texlive-latex-base{b}
texlive-latex-base-doc{b} texlive-latex-extra{b} texlive-latex-extra-doc{b}
texlive-latex-recommended{b} texlive-latex-recommended-doc{b}
texlive-luatex{b} texlive-pictures{b} texlive-pictures-doc{b}
texlive-pstricks{b} texlive-pstricks-doc{b} texlive-science{b}
texlive-science-doc{b} tipa{b}
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
brasero-common{u} gstreamer0.10-gconf{u} gstreamer0.10-nice{u}
gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly{u} libburn4{u} libgconfmm-2.6-1c2{u}
libgdata-common{u} libglademm-2.4-1c2a{u} libgsf-1-114{u}
libgsf-1-common{u} libisofs6{u} libjte1{u} liboauth0{u}
libqtgstreamerui-0.10-0{u} libtelepathy-qt4-farstream2{u} libzephyr4{u}
linux-kbuild-3.11{u} pidgin-data{u} pulseaudio-module-gconf{u}
Die folgenden Pakete werden EMPFOHLEN, aber NICHT installiert:
apache2-utils apache2-utils:i386 fonts-lyx gdebi libsctp1
nautilus-sendto-empathy python-launchpadlib python-secretstorage
resiprocate-turn-server tk tk:i386
0 Pakete aktualisiert, 69 zusätzlich installiert, 19 werden entfernt und
100 nicht aktualisiert.



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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 14:10 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 21 February 2014 12:32:00 Richard Owlett wrote:
> > I have *NO* internet connectivity.
> 
> You must have some internet connectivity, somewhere, in order to be 
> able to converse with this list. :-/

No, the OP must not have access to the Internet by the OPs Linux
computer.

The OP is writing from a Windows machine.

Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1



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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

[Richard Owlett]

Joel Rees wrote:

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:

Joel Rees wrote:


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Richard Owlett 
wrote:


[...]
As I write this a interesting question arose, "Could I find software to
emulate a Z80 CPM machine?". Is there an implementation of Lawrence
Livermore BASIC? How about CUPL? I believe the term applied to my
interests
is eclectic.
YMMV



I assume you know the answers to these questions?




I do know how to search for packages in Debian and progeny.

That paragraph was written as a rhetorical device to get a point across.

In multiple threads I have stated my goal.
To whit, "To have *ALL* of Debian ("for a specific architecture" implied)
without availability of *ANY* internet connectivity."

I keep getting suggestions to approximately meet *SPECIFICATION* by ... ;/


Having you tried setting up a regular mirror (spinning disks) (hosted
on a debian server, of course) and making a live image of it? Then
writing the image to a USB drive?


Servers, actual or virtual, are outside problem scope.



There are some tricky points, some USB drives don't take well to being
partitioned or to having non-VFAT derived file systems written on
them.


Not a problem for two reasons:
   For unspecified reasons I wish to use FAT32 partition anyway.
   The specific dives I have available are happy with all the 
formats I'm likely to use.




Many don't like to be shrunk, so you'll want to gauge the size
of the mirror (And that means, perhaps, limiting the extent of the
ideal "all". But I think you have already indicated that you want to
have some elements of the non-free repository -- drivers ..., which
means you're going to be hand-crafting the installation to a certain
extent. I think I'd tend to lean towards building it as two
repositories, by the way, to make the license issues a bit cleaner.)


My test case will be Wheezy which comes on 10 DVD therefore will 
fit with room to spare on a 64 GB device.





Of course, the whole problem here is that you're the only person on
the list who has a prayer of figuring out how to build what you want.





Which of the approximations have you tried so far, to get a feel of
how they work in practice?



Approximations are not acceptable by *DEFINITION*.

P.S.
Two professors wee discussing me - in my presence.

Prof A: "This young man can be persistent."
Prof B: "Yes." [l-o-n-g pause] "about what he wants to be."
We won't discuss what family and friends say ;/



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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 21 February 2014 12:32:00 Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have *NO* internet connectivity.

You must have some internet connectivity, somewhere, in order to be 
able to converse with this list. :-/

Lisi


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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

[Richard Owlett]

Dan Purgert wrote:

On 21/02/2014 07:32, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have *NO* internet connectivity.
I have Squeeze installed.
I have complete DVD install set.

I want to re-create the ISO files from which they came.

I suspect I'm missing something obvious ;/

HELP ;>



First off ... why're you looking to re-create the ISO images if you've already
got them hard-copy on the DVDs?


You're safer not asking ;/
However, I wish to test a routine for processing ISO files. 
Therefore having an ISO is an *ABSOLUTE* requirement.





"sudo dd -if /dev/dvd[*] -of Squeeze_disc_N.iso[**]" should probably cover what
you need to do.  Running it as root is probably not necessary, but it covers you
in case your currently logged in user doesn't have the permissions necessary to
work with /dev/dvd (i.e. it's just insurance so you don't get an error message).

[*] Assuming that /dev/dvd is your dvd drive.
[**] where 'N' is the disc number.  Also note that this assumes you're already
in the directory where you want to keep the ISOs.



I _thought_ that was what I did. I'll try again. Thank you.



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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

[David]

On 21 February 2014 23:32, Richard Owlett  wrote:
>
> I have *NO* internet connectivity.
> I have Squeeze installed.
> I have complete DVD install set.
>
> I want to re-create the ISO files from which they came.

A month ago (http://lists.debian.org/52e270fb.7070...@cloud85.net)
in another thread we already discussed this as follows:

On 25 January 2014 00:56, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> David wrote:
>>
>> Ordinarily, an iso file is used to prepare a filesystem image that is
>> then burnt to a dvd. But you want to go in the opposite direction.
>> Somehow you need to read the entire dvd image into an iso file. And
>> this is not necessarily simple, see for example:
>>
>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm#_Accurately_Reading_a_CD
>> Years ago I have done this successfully with CDs. I don't know if it
>> applies to DVDs.
>
> From an initial reading, I don't see why it would not apply to a DVD.
> Careful reread and experimentation to follow.
>
>> See also:
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch10
>> Section 10.3 and especially 10.3.6 following "you can ... make the
>> ISO9660 image directly from the CD-ROM device as follows"
>
> I've found other portions of that work valuable in the past. Thanks for
> reminding me of it. Chapters 9 and 10 should keep me occupied. "10.3.8.
> Mounting the ISO9660 image file" implies an answer to my question.

Sometime between then and now, it seems that the debian-reference has
been edited and that information has entirely disappeared from the current
version, and so the above debian.org link is now broken. Perhaps if you have
the squeeze version, it will still contain the relevant information.

The first link I provided is still valid, and provides instructions
how to create an
iso file from cd media. Did you try this? What happens when you follow
those instructions?


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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

[Steve McIntyre]

Andrei wrote:
>On Vi, 21 feb 14, 18:56:44, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> 
>> Andrei's suggestion arose because I was contemplating on how to expand
>> the (ISO9660 or whatever) filesystem that would end up on the USB
>> stick.
>> 
>> Anyway, in hindsight, you can simply create your own jigdo image, big
>> enough to contain the entire Debian repository:
>> 
>> apt-cache search jigdo
>> 
>> and check out the packages for creation of jigdo image. That sounds
>> like an appealing solution to me. Create quick-and-simple full local
>> repo, then sign the repo with your own signature (this last step
>> should be pretty easy, once you know how :)
> 
>AFAIU jigdo is meant to take an ISO image to pieces and reassemble it. 
>It is not an image creator (hence the suggestion from Steve for a 
>wishlist bug against debian-cd, the image creation tool). 

You're correct, yes.

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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 07:47 -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
> First off ... why're you looking to re-create the ISO images if you've already
> got them hard-copy on the DVDs?
> 
> "sudo dd -if /dev/dvd[*] -of Squeeze_disc_N.iso[**]" should probably cover 
> what
> you need to do.  Running it as root is probably not necessary, but it covers 
> you
> in case your currently logged in user doesn't have the permissions necessary 
> to
> work with /dev/dvd (i.e. it's just insurance so you don't get an error 
> message).
> 
> [*] Assuming that /dev/dvd is your dvd drive.
> [**] where 'N' is the disc number.  Also note that this assumes you're already
> in the directory where you want to keep the ISOs.

I don't know if somebody already mentioned this for the other thread,
since I didn't follow the thread: ISOs can be mounted from any drive.

http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html

So coping all to a drive and mounting all of them would be one way.



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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

[Dan Purgert]

On 21/02/2014 07:32, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have *NO* internet connectivity.
> I have Squeeze installed.
> I have complete DVD install set.
> 
> I want to re-create the ISO files from which they came.
> 
> I suspect I'm missing something obvious ;/
> 
> HELP ;>
> 
> 
> 
> 

First off ... why're you looking to re-create the ISO images if you've already
got them hard-copy on the DVDs?

"sudo dd -if /dev/dvd[*] -of Squeeze_disc_N.iso[**]" should probably cover what
you need to do.  Running it as root is probably not necessary, but it covers you
in case your currently logged in user doesn't have the permissions necessary to
work with /dev/dvd (i.e. it's just insurance so you don't get an error message).

[*] Assuming that /dev/dvd is your dvd drive.
[**] where 'N' is the disc number.  Also note that this assumes you're already
in the directory where you want to keep the ISOs.


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Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

[Richard Owlett]

I have *NO* internet connectivity.
I have Squeeze installed.
I have complete DVD install set.

I want to re-create the ISO files from which they came.

I suspect I'm missing something obvious ;/

HELP ;>




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Preparation of a "wishlist bug" underway - was [Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?]

[Richard Owlett]

My procedure will be:
  1. write specification of goal
  2. write rationale behind goals
  3. experiment with trial solutions
  4. create and submit wishlist bug


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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

[Joel Rees]

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> Joel Rees wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Richard Owlett 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>> As I write this a interesting question arose, "Could I find software to
>>> emulate a Z80 CPM machine?". Is there an implementation of Lawrence
>>> Livermore BASIC? How about CUPL? I believe the term applied to my
>>> interests
>>> is eclectic.
>>> YMMV
>>
>>
>> I assume you know the answers to these questions?
>>
>
> 
> I do know how to search for packages in Debian and progeny.
>
> That paragraph was written as a rhetorical device to get a point across.
>
> In multiple threads I have stated my goal.
> To whit, "To have *ALL* of Debian ("for a specific architecture" implied)
> without availability of *ANY* internet connectivity."
>
> I keep getting suggestions to approximately meet *SPECIFICATION* by ... ;/

Having you tried setting up a regular mirror (spinning disks) (hosted
on a debian server, of course) and making a live image of it? Then
writing the image to a USB drive?

There are some tricky points, some USB drives don't take well to being
partitioned or to having non-VFAT derived file systems written on
them. Many don't like to be shrunk, so you'll want to gauge the size
of the mirror (And that means, perhaps, limiting the extent of the
ideal "all". But I think you have already indicated that you want to
have some elements of the non-free repository -- drivers ..., which
means you're going to be hand-crafting the installation to a certain
extent. I think I'd tend to lean towards building it as two
repositories, by the way, to make the license issues a bit cleaner.)

Of course, the whole problem here is that you're the only person on
the list who has a prayer of figuring out how to build what you want.
Which of the approximations have you tried so far, to get a feel of
how they work in practice?

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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

[Richard Owlett]

Joel Rees wrote:

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Richard Owlett  wrote:

[...]
As I write this a interesting question arose, "Could I find software to
emulate a Z80 CPM machine?". Is there an implementation of Lawrence
Livermore BASIC? How about CUPL? I believe the term applied to my interests
is eclectic.
YMMV


I assume you know the answers to these questions?




I do know how to search for packages in Debian and progeny.

That paragraph was written as a rhetorical device to get a point 
across.


In multiple threads I have stated my goal.
To whit, "To have *ALL* of Debian ("for a specific architecture" 
implied) without availability of *ANY* internet connectivity."


I keep getting suggestions to approximately meet *SPECIFICATION* 
by ... ;/




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Re: Runnings Windows 7 pro from inside Debian 7

[Gian Uberto Lauri]

Nuno Magalhães writes:
 > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:17 AM, John Foster  
 > wrote:
 > > Seeking tips on how to set up a multi boot system that has Windows 7
 > > pro, Debian 7 & 2 other operating systems each with its own disk to run
 > > from so that any of the OS can be run in a safe manner from within
 > > Debian 7.
 > 
 > Try Xen with LVM. Doublecheck your hardware first.

Another option is kvm/qemu together with libvirt. Really interesting.

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Re: Runnings Windows 7 pro from inside Debian 7

[Nuno Magalhães]

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:17 AM, John Foster  wrote:
> Seeking tips on how to set up a multi boot system that has Windows 7
> pro, Debian 7 & 2 other operating systems each with its own disk to run
> from so that any of the OS can be run in a safe manner from within
> Debian 7.

Try Xen with LVM. Doublecheck your hardware first.


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Re: Debian live USB install fails to boot

[Brian]

On Fri 21 Feb 2014 at 01:20:53 -0800, Tom Heuser wrote:

> I tried to install
> debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isoonto
> a 16gb sandisk USB using both Unetbootin and Linux Live USB in Windows
> and when I try to boot it all I get is "missing operating system."  Does
> anyone know why this is happening?

This would require troubleshooting your use of these two programs within
a Windows environment. Personally, I would use Win32 Disk Imager and try
first with a netinst ISO. Best would for you to do

   cat ISO > /dev/sdX

from within a Linux install (tails?).


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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

[Joel Rees]

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> [...]
> As I write this a interesting question arose, "Could I find software to
> emulate a Z80 CPM machine?". Is there an implementation of Lawrence
> Livermore BASIC? How about CUPL? I believe the term applied to my interests
> is eclectic.
> YMMV

I assume you know the answers to these questions?

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Re: Debian live USB install fails to boot

[antispammbox-debian]

I tried to install
debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isoonto
a 16gb sandisk USB using both Unetbootin and Linux Live USB in Windows
and when I try to boot it all I get is "missing operating system."  Does
anyone know why this is happening?

I previous had tails on this USB and it was always able to boot just fine.






Try with:
http://optimate.dl.sourceforge.net/project/tuxboot/0.6/Windows/tuxboot-0.6.exe

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Re: Need to make sure I have the nvidia proprietary driver running.

[Anubhav Yadav]

> Did you add yourself to the bumblebee group?
> 
> adduser $USER bumblebee ...as root
> where $USER corresponds to your username. Don't forget to log out and log
> back in for this to take effect.

Yes

> https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee#Installation
>

I think I am almost there! Bumblebee service is not getting started,
its getting stopped.
Optirun is running for some apps like nvidia-settings.
But not for glxgears

Here is the output when I try to run optirun -vvv glxgears
[  376.165332] [DEBUG]Reading file: /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf
[  376.166004] [WARN]Could not open configuration file:
/etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf
[  376.166053] [WARN]Using default configuration
[  376.166431] [DEBUG]optirun version 3.2.1 starting...
[  376.166497] [DEBUG]Active configuration:
[  376.166550] [DEBUG] bumblebeed config file: /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf
[  376.166578] [DEBUG] X display: :8
[  376.166605] [DEBUG] LD_LIBRARY_PATH:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nvidia:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/nvidia:/usr/lib/nvidia
[  376.166653] [DEBUG] Socket path: /var/run/bumblebee.socket
[  376.166696] [DEBUG] Accel/display bridge: auto
[  376.166723] [DEBUG] VGL Compression: proxy
[  376.166753] [DEBUG] VGLrun extra options:
[  376.166784] [DEBUG] Primus LD Path:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/primus:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/primus:/usr/lib/primus:/usr/lib32/primus
[  376.166900] [DEBUG]Using auto-detected bridge primus
[  376.168024] [INFO]Response: Yes. X is active.

[  376.168107] [INFO]Running application using primus.
[  376.168409] [DEBUG]Process glxgears started, PID 4340.
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":8".
[  376.213949] [DEBUG]SIGCHILD received, but wait failed with No child processes
[  376.214006] [DEBUG]Socket closed.
[  376.214036] [DEBUG]Killing all remaining processes.

Wonder why is this warning coming: Could not open configuration file:
/etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf

Also Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":8".

But nevertheless optirun is running finally. (Pheww)

Also lsmod | grep video shows nvidia in its output. Whereas previously
it wasn't.

i2c_core   23876  7
i2c_algo_bit,i2c_i801,drm,drm_kms_helper,videodev,i915,nvidia

> There's all sorts of hints on that page. Good luck! :) Ric

Yes I started with this page itself. Thanks for your help anyways. I
just want someone to confirm that I have solved my problem!


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Re: update-grub

[Scott Ferguson]

On 21/02/14 20:27, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 21/02/14 20:06, Ric Moore wrote:
>> After bending my brains for a day fixing little problems, after
>> upgrading to Jessie, I'm noticing a weird behavior.
>>
>> I have Ubuntu on /dev/sda3 and Debian on /dev/sdb1. When I run
>> update-grub, it notices the Ubuntu partition yet when I boot, the old
>> selection for Ubuntu is no longer there. It used to be, and poof it's
>> gone now. Any assist would be appreciated. Thanx, Ric
>>
> 
> Which OS manages GRUB for you - or do you let strongest one win?
> 
> Make sure you don't have more than one grub.cfg

in use (?)

>  (one per OS) and that
> GRUB is using the correct one. i.e. from Debian mount the relevant
> Ubuntu slice and grep it's grub.cfg.

If you find that update-grub is applying the desired changes to grub.cfg
but you don't see those changes at the GRUB boot prompt then GRUB
(Debian) may not be updating the relevant area. Compare the actual boot
choices you see to both Ubuntu's grub.cfg and Debian's
$ grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg


You don't say 'what' is bootable - mbr, partition/s etc. If Ubuntu and
Debian are using different types of schemes it can cause (fixable)
problems. It may be as simple as mounting the Ubuntu slice and copying
the relevant section from it's /etc/grub.d/* to the same in Debian and
re-running upgrade-grub.


NOTE: Friday night here - gotta go, I'll check back tomorrow to see if
you, or someone else has sorted if for you.

> 
> 
> Kind regards
> 


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Re: update-grub

[Scott Ferguson]

On 21/02/14 20:06, Ric Moore wrote:
> After bending my brains for a day fixing little problems, after
> upgrading to Jessie, I'm noticing a weird behavior.
> 
> I have Ubuntu on /dev/sda3 and Debian on /dev/sdb1. When I run
> update-grub, it notices the Ubuntu partition yet when I boot, the old
> selection for Ubuntu is no longer there. It used to be, and poof it's
> gone now. Any assist would be appreciated. Thanx, Ric
> 

Which OS manages GRUB for you - or do you let strongest one win?

Make sure you don't have more than one grub.cfg (one per OS) and that
GRUB is using the correct one. i.e. from Debian mount the relevant
Ubuntu slice and grep it's grub.cfg.


Kind regards


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Debian live USB install fails to boot

[Tom Heuser]

Greetings all...

I tried to install
debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isoonto
a 16gb sandisk USB using both Unetbootin and Linux Live USB in Windows
and when I try to boot it all I get is "missing operating system."  Does
anyone know why this is happening?

I previous had tails on this USB and it was always able to boot just fine.


Cura ut valeas!
-Tom Heuser

"Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" - Virgil

update-grub

[Ric Moore]

After bending my brains for a day fixing little problems, after 
upgrading to Jessie, I'm noticing a weird behavior.


I have Ubuntu on /dev/sda3 and Debian on /dev/sdb1. When I run 
update-grub, it notices the Ubuntu partition yet when I boot, the old 
selection for Ubuntu is no longer there. It used to be, and poof it's 
gone now. Any assist would be appreciated. Thanx, Ric


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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Vi, 21 feb 14, 18:56:44, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> 
> Andrei's suggestion arose because I was contemplating on how to expand
> the (ISO9660 or whatever) filesystem that would end up on the USB
> stick.
> 
> Anyway, in hindsight, you can simply create your own jigdo image, big
> enough to contain the entire Debian repository:
> 
> apt-cache search jigdo
> 
> and check out the packages for creation of jigdo image. That sounds
> like an appealing solution to me. Create quick-and-simple full local
> repo, then sign the repo with your own signature (this last step
> should be pretty easy, once you know how :)
 
AFAIU jigdo is meant to take an ISO image to pieces and reassemble it. 
It is not an image creator (hence the suggestion from Steve for a 
wishlist bug against debian-cd, the image creation tool). 

If the stick doesn't have to be bootable I'd rather look into some of 
the tools to create your own repository (reprepro seems to be the 
selection of choice).

> All good, don't worry about it. Wanting to achieve your own little
> plot of perfection is certainly something supported, indeed
> encouraged, in this community :)

Definitely :)

Kind regards,
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