Rechercher des caractères non-ascii dans un ensemble de fichiers
Bonjour (à tous d'ailleurs, première fois que j'embête la liste !),
Voulant rapporter un bug sur libvirt-bin, j'ai lancé reportbug et...ça
c'est mal fini :
--
Looking up dependencies of libvirt-bin...
Getting changed configuration files...
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/reportbug, line 2206, in module
main()
File /usr/bin/reportbug, line 1080, in main
return iface.user_interface()
File /usr/bin/reportbug, line 1819, in user_interface
conftext = conftext + u'%s %s\n' % (f, confinfo[f])
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 32:
ordinal not in range(128)
--
Après une petite recherche, il se trouve que ce bug avait déjà été
rapporté (cf. bug n°596295), et que la source de tout cela soit la
présence de caractères non-ascii dans les fichiers de configuration du
paquet.
J'ai essayé de voir ce qu'il en était en faisant un :
for f in $(find /etc/libvirt/ -type f); do awk '/xxx/ {$0}' $f; echo
$f; done;
avec plusieurs xxx différents : Ã, [[:xdigit:]], [[.a.]], mais
toujours sans aucun résultat... pourtant vu l'erreur Python remontée il
doit forcément y avoir au moins un caractère qui blague, et j'aimerais
bien le retrouver avant de rouvrir le bogue.
D'où ma question : comment feriez-vous pour trouver des caractères
non-ascii dans un ensemble de fichiers ?
Merci d'avance pour vos lumières,
Loïc
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Re: Rechercher des caractères non-ascii dans un ensemble de fichiers
Supprimer tous les caractères non ascii d'un fichier :
iconv -c -f utf-8 -t ascii fichier.txt
Le 18 mars 2014 13:01, Sdkfz262 sdkfz...@yahoo.fr a écrit :
Bonjour (à tous d'ailleurs, première fois que j'embête la liste !),
Voulant rapporter un bug sur libvirt-bin, j'ai lancé reportbug et...ça
c'est mal fini :
--
Looking up dependencies of libvirt-bin...
Getting changed configuration files...
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/reportbug, line 2206, in module
main()
File /usr/bin/reportbug, line 1080, in main
return iface.user_interface()
File /usr/bin/reportbug, line 1819, in user_interface
conftext = conftext + u'%s %s\n' % (f, confinfo[f])
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 32:
ordinal not in range(128)
--
Après une petite recherche, il se trouve que ce bug avait déjà été
rapporté (cf. bug n°596295), et que la source de tout cela soit la présence
de caractères non-ascii dans les fichiers de configuration du paquet.
J'ai essayé de voir ce qu'il en était en faisant un :
for f in $(find /etc/libvirt/ -type f); do awk '/xxx/ {$0}' $f; echo $f;
done;
avec plusieurs xxx différents : Ã, [[:xdigit:]], [[.a.]], mais toujours
sans aucun résultat... pourtant vu l'erreur Python remontée il doit
forcément y avoir au moins un caractère qui blague, et j'aimerais bien le
retrouver avant de rouvrir le bogue.
D'où ma question : comment feriez-vous pour trouver des caractères
non-ascii dans un ensemble de fichiers ?
Merci d'avance pour vos lumières,
Loïc
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Re: Rechercher des caractères non-ascii dans un ensemble de fichiers
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:01:23 +0100 Sdkfz262 sdkfz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Bonjour (à tous d'ailleurs, première fois que j'embête la liste !), C'est clair: on ne crosspost PAS, on crée un nouveau thread en écrivant à la ML (passe un certain temps à faire des recherches dans des archives et tu verras que tu auras très vite envie d'émasculer les crossposters avec une égoïne rouillée…) UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 32: ordinal not in range(128) Il suffit d'ajouter: # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- au début (3ème ligne) de reportbug. -- Soralia: Les boules... Oxymore: en parlant de boules Oxymore: Il parait qu'on utilise des couilles de dauphin pour faire les boules de flipper -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318130251.13ea8e07@anubis.defcon1
Re: Rechercher des caractères non-ascii dans un ensemble de fichiers
Oups ! Désolé, pour le crosspost...au moins je n'ai plus peur de passer pour un boulet, c'est déjà fait. (s'il vaut mieux que j'arrête là ce crosspost et je recrée un fil dédié, merci de me le dire.) Concernant la ligne à ajouter : je ne vois pas exactement de quoi il s'agit, car reportbug ne me propose pas cette option. J'ai par contre directement UTF-8 détecté : *** Welcome to reportbug. Use ? for help at prompts. *** Note: bug reports are publicly archived (including the email address of the submitter). Detected character set: UTF-8 Please change your locale if this is incorrect. Loïc Le 18/03/2014 13:02, Bzzz a écrit : On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:01:23 +0100 Sdkfz262 sdkfz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Bonjour (à tous d'ailleurs, première fois que j'embête la liste !), C'est clair: on ne crosspost PAS, on crée un nouveau thread en écrivant à la ML (passe un certain temps à faire des recherches dans des archives et tu verras que tu auras très vite envie d'émasculer les crossposters avec une égoïne rouillée…) UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 32: ordinal not in range(128) Il suffit d'ajouter: # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- au début (3ème ligne) de reportbug. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53283b17.6030...@yahoo.fr
Re: Rechercher des caractères non-ascii dans un ensemble de fichiers
Bonjour, Le mardi 18 mars 2014 à 13:24, Sdkfz262 a écrit : Oups ! Désolé, pour le crosspost...au moins je n'ai plus peur de passer pour un boulet, c'est déjà fait. (s'il vaut mieux que j'arrête là ce crosspost et je recrée un fil dédié, merci de me le dire.) Pas la peine, contente toi de noter ça dans ta tête pour la prochaine fois ;-) Concernant la ligne à ajouter : je ne vois pas exactement de quoi il s'agit, car reportbug ne me propose pas cette option. J'ai par contre directement UTF-8 détecté : En fait, reportbug est un script python. Tu peux donc l'éditer et le modifier (en tant que root, avec un éditeur de texte comme « vi »). Le fichier est « /usr/bin/reportbug ». Tu vas ligne 3 et tu ajoutes la ligne suggérée par Bzzz. Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318124739.gb27...@sebian.nob900.homeip.net
Re: Rechercher des caractères non-ascii dans un ensemble de fichiers
Le mardi 18 mars 2014 à 12:59, Blaise Thirard a écrit : Supprimer tous les caractères non ascii d'un fichier : iconv -c -f utf-8 -t ascii fichier.txt Sauf que les fichiers problématiques sont des fichiers de conf (dans /etc) collés automatiquement dans le rapport de bug. Supprimer les caractères non-ascii des fichiers de conf problématiques peut avoir des répercussions sur le fonctionnement des outils associés. Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318124913.gc27...@sebian.nob900.homeip.net
Re: Rechercher des caractères non-ascii dans un ensemble de fichiers
Bonjour, En fait, reportbug est un script python. Tu peux donc l'éditer et le modifier (en tant que root, avec un éditeur de texte comme « vi »). Le fichier est « /usr/bin/reportbug ». Tu vas ligne 3 et tu ajoutes la ligne suggérée par Bzzz. Seb Merci du tuyau : fait à l'instant, mais malheureusement exactement le même message d'erreur... Loïc -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53284472.4020...@yahoo.fr
Re: Rechercher des caractères non-ascii dans un ensemble de fichiers
Après investigation (et débuggage via pdb), il s'avère que le caractère non-ascii ne vient pas d'un des fichiers, mais du message d'erreur à la lecture : (Pdb) p confinfo[f] IOError(13, 'Permission non accord\xc3\xa9e') Je vais ouvrir un rapport de bug sur le BTS pour le signaler. Merci pour le coup de main ! Loïc Le 18/03/2014 14:04, Sdkfz262 a écrit : Bonjour, En fait, reportbug est un script python. Tu peux donc l'éditer et le modifier (en tant que root, avec un éditeur de texte comme « vi »). Le fichier est « /usr/bin/reportbug ». Tu vas ligne 3 et tu ajoutes la ligne suggérée par Bzzz. Seb Merci du tuyau : fait à l'instant, mais malheureusement exactement le même message d'erreur... Loïc -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53289610.3020...@yahoo.fr
Re: Mise a jour forcée
Bonjour, Merci à tous pour toutes ces infos. Je ne saurais donner de retours d'information, car le PC a un problème matériel qui m'a empêché de finir le travail. Peut-être a-t-il mal supporté son année stocké a la cave... Bonne soirée Le 12 mars 2014 09:27, Sébastien NOBILI sebnewslet...@free.fr a écrit : Le mercredi 12 mars 2014 à 0:02, Jérôme a écrit : Aucune obligation de faire des sauvegardes... par contre aucune garantie non-plus de conserver tes données ! Rohhh! quel pessimisme. Mais les sauvegarde, il ne faut pas attendre la panne avant de les faire. C'est pas plus mal d'en faire une avant toute modification importante quelle qu'elle soit. Ce n'est pas du tout pessimiste. Chacun a le rapport qu'il veut aux sauvegardes. Ne pas s'emmerder et accepter le risque ou bien s'emmerder pour éloigner le risque. J'ai choisi mon camp, chacun choisit le sien ! Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140312082756.gb14...@sebian.nob900.homeip.net
Re: Enviar correo con PHP.
El 18/03/2014 2:10, Ariel Martin Bellio escribió: El 16/03/2014 01:57 a.m., Brenillos escribió: Buenas, buenas, gente. Saludos. Bueno, iré al grano. Estoy creando un pequeño sistema y entre los requerimientos tengo el enviar distintos tipos de correo (contraseñas, recuperación de contraseñas, mensajes de alerta...) y aunque he buscado y encontrado soluciones, ninguna me ha funcionado. Intenté con ssmtp, msmtp, postfix... ninguno llega si quiera a enviar el correo. Quisiera saber si alguien me podría ayudar con eso :( Gracias. -- Si salen en HTML me disculpo -- Los enlaces que usé fueron los siguientes: http://seeit.org/2010/08/26/php-mail-with-ubuntu-desktop-and-gmail/ https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-use-gmail-or-yahoo-with-php-mail-function http://www.thewireframecommunity.com/node/39 http://www.nixtutor.com/linux/send-mail-with-gmail-and-ssmtp/ Hay una classe llamada phpmailer yo la he usado y funciona. Salut! Si no cuentas con un servidor interno aquí tienes un ejemplo de cómo configurarla apoyándote en una cuenta de Gmail (por ejemplo). http://www.desarrolloweb.com/articulos/envio-mail-usando-smtp-gmail.html Un saludo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/532814ae.6020...@gmail.com
Re: Popcorn Time como instalarlo?
El Mon, 17 Mar 2014 16:08:01 -0300, Fabián Bonetti escribió: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:11:15 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Fabián, si borras todo el texto al que respondes se pierde el hilo del asunto. La aplicación: http://blog.mamalibre.com.ar/post/popcorn-time-cine-en-casa Lo que a prensa sabe y una revisión. No entiendo nada de esto :-? El problema el que binario fue compilado con glibc 2.15 Y el Debian estable usa glibc 2.13 $ ldd --version ldd (Debian EGLIBC 2.13-38+deb7u1) 2.13 Habría que ver si es necesario una versión concreta de Glibc o se trata de un mero capricho del empaquetador. Hay que volverlo a compilar pero... es lioso y demanda tiempo. Las dependencias para compilarlo estan en el readme son estas http://ariejan.net/2011/10/24/installing-node-js-and-npm-on-ubuntu- debian/ Esa página parece antigua (de hace 3 años), pero en el readme de la página del nuevo proyecto indican también lo necesario para construir el paquete: https://github.com/popcorn-team/popcorn-app/blob/master/README.md Increíble que el código fuente ocupe apenas 3 MiB y los binarios no bajen de 35 MiB :-O Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.03.18.14.09...@gmail.com
Re: Enviar correo con PHP.
Buenas tardes, En el php.ini puedes encontrar la opción mail.log que puedes usar para debug o simplemente ver que dominio hace uso de la función mail() de php. Por ejemplo; /etc/php.ini mail.log = /tmp/mail.log Y después creas el archivo de log, recuerda dar permisos. touch /tmp/mail.log En el mismo archivo de configuración (php.ini) puedes ver qué ejecuta la función mail a la hora de enviar, puedes decirle que use lo que quieras, esto directamente redireccionará el envío hacia tu mta (sendmail, postfix, qmail, etc), con lo que también podrás examinar en los logs del propio mta que ocurre. sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i Para más información en el propio archivo te muestra un enlace de ayuda: http://www.php.net/manual/en/mail.configuration.php#ini.sendmail-path Espero te sirva de ayuda, ojo con el tema del alojamiento, en muchos la función mail está capada o necesitarás usar un usuario del sistema (login/password). Saludos, On 16/03/14 20:09, Brenillos wrote: El 16/03/2014 12:33, Mauro Antivero escribió: El 16/03/14 01:57, Brenillos escribió: Buenas, buenas, gente. Saludos. Bueno, iré al grano. Estoy creando un pequeño sistema y entre los requerimientos tengo el enviar distintos tipos de correo (contraseñas, recuperación de contraseñas, mensajes de alerta...) y aunque he buscado y encontrado soluciones, ninguna me ha funcionado. Intenté con ssmtp, msmtp, postfix... ninguno llega si quiera a enviar el correo. Quisiera saber si alguien me podría ayudar con eso :( Gracias. -- Si salen en HTML me disculpo -- Los enlaces que usé fueron los siguientes: http://seeit.org/2010/08/26/php-mail-with-ubuntu-desktop-and-gmail/ https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-use-gmail-or-yahoo-with-php-mail-function http://www.thewireframecommunity.com/node/39 http://www.nixtutor.com/linux/send-mail-with-gmail-and-ssmtp/ Mmm... Mirá, yo he hecho esto (enviar correos desde PHP) varias veces, y todo lo que hago es simplemente una configuración básica de Exim4 y luego utilizo la función mail de PHP. Es muy simple, pero no sé si será exactamente eso lo que querés. Fijate por favor la documentación de la función mail a ver si te sirve. En todo caso después te paso un mini tutorial de como hacer una configuración básica de Exim4 (de todas formas hay miles en la red). Como ya te han dicho lo primero que tenés que hacer es ver si los mails se envían o no (mirando los logs) y luego ver el tema del spam. Saludos y éxitos. Mauro. Bueno, de Exim4 no vi documentación, supongo que tendré que buscar un poco más. Y bueno, creo que no aclaré la situación en la que me encuentro. Debian 7 + LAMP (Apache2, MySQL, PHP5), los que trae por defecto la versión siete. Actualmente trabajo como localhost, por lo que ocupo el envío desde mi computador hacia una fuente externa a través de algún programa como los que se han visto en los correos. Es únicamente como fuente de pruebas para montarlo en un hosting posteriormente. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53285861.9010...@gmail.com
[¿OT?] Controlador de volumen LXDE Testing
Hola chicos. No sé si está en HTML. Lo envío desde gmail (ya me instalaré Icedove o equivalente) y le he dado veinte mil veces a «eliminar formato». Juro instalar Icedove próximamente (aunque me interesaría probar mutt, pero lo veo chungillo y soy torpón...) Ya mi pobre PC no daba más de sí y cada vez el Shell era más pesadito. Así que hice una instalación limpia de Testing con LXDE y ya está. Ando muy contento (salvo por errores de seguridad de traca, véase [1], y que hay que apagarlo por terminal...) , porque ni consume 90 MB de RAM y es súper rápido para el pobre y triste Celeron que tiene... Bueno... ¡Pero en la barra de tareas no hay controlador de volumen! Y el sonido se escucha «muy bajito». Me iba a instalar «pavucontrol», pero no sé si es la mejor solución para LXDE o si hay algo para su barra de tareas que lo permita hacer... ¿sabéis de algo? Por más que he buscado nada he encontrado en claro. Un saludo. [1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=740163
Re: [¿OT?] Controlador de volumen LXDE Testing
El Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:15:56 +0100, SGCPSCBC escribió: Hola chicos. ¿OT? :-? No sé si está en HTML. Lo envío desde gmail (ya me instalaré Icedove o equivalente) y le he dado veinte mil veces a «eliminar formato». Juro instalar Icedove próximamente (aunque me interesaría probar mutt, pero lo veo chungillo y soy torpón...) Grrr... espero que mi gruñido sea suficiente :-) Ya mi pobre PC no daba más de sí y cada vez el Shell era más pesadito. Así que hice una instalación limpia de Testing con LXDE y ya está. Ando muy contento (salvo por errores de seguridad de traca, véase [1], y que hay que apagarlo por terminal...) , porque ni consume 90 MB de RAM y es súper rápido para el pobre y triste Celeron que tiene... Bueno... ¡Pero en la barra de tareas no hay controlador de volumen! Y el sonido se escucha «muy bajito». ¿Has intentado sacarlo desde la barra de applets? Me iba a instalar «pavucontrol», pero no sé si es la mejor solución para LXDE o si hay algo para su barra de tareas que lo permita hacer... ¿sabéis de algo? Por más que he buscado nada he encontrado en claro. PA te chupará más RAM que el LXDE compilando el kernel :-P Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.03.18.15.25...@gmail.com
Re: [¿OT?] Controlador de volumen LXDE Testing
escribe en un terminal alsamixer te sale un conjunto de faders con las teclas de arriba y abajo se sube y bajan los volúmenes y con las de al lado se cambia de fader Si dominas los Bits, dominas el mundo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201403181120.49140.hay...@inor.sld.cu
svn trunk modo espejo
Alguien sabe, alguna forma de tener un mirror-espejo del repo svn sin utilizar svn export, ni mount davfs que permite tener el trunk para realizar escrituras pero sin autoversionar el repo. slds.
Re: [¿OT?] Controlador de volumen LXDE Testing
El mar, 18-03-2014 a las 16:15 +0100, SGCPSCBC escribió: Hola chicos. No sé si está en HTML. Lo envío desde gmail (ya me instalaré Icedove o equivalente) y le he dado veinte mil veces a «eliminar formato». Juro instalar Icedove próximamente (aunque me interesaría probar mutt, pero lo veo chungillo y soy torpón...) Ya mi pobre PC no daba más de sí y cada vez el Shell era más pesadito. Así que hice una instalación limpia de Testing con LXDE y ya está. Ando muy contento (salvo por errores de seguridad de traca, véase [1], y que hay que apagarlo por terminal...) , porque ni consume 90 MB de RAM y es súper rápido para el pobre y triste Celeron que tiene... Bueno... ¡Pero en la barra de tareas no hay controlador de volumen! Y el sonido se escucha «muy bajito». Me iba a instalar «pavucontrol», pero no sé si es la mejor solución para LXDE o si hay algo para su barra de tareas que lo permita hacer... ¿sabéis de algo? Por más que he buscado nada he encontrado en claro. Un saludo. [1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=740163 yo uso lxde, convencido que eso deberían ser los escritorios. Y nada mas, sin tantas capas y capas de abstracción pulsesaudios networkmanagers y las pelotas. :P Ahora, en cuanto a lo de tu pregunta: click derecho sobre el panel - configuración del panel - applets del panel (es una pestaña) - agregar Y listo, el cosito del volumen se llama 'control de volumen' -- (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-).-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395157261.2521.3.ca...@eeepc.ucasal.ar
[¿OT?] Controlador de volumen LXDE Testing (SOLUCIONADO)
Gracias Gonzalo, Camleón y Bauzá. Pues.. me iba a comer. Aunque juraría no haberlo visto en los applets... ¡Aaagh! Estoy ciego :( Lo del HTML no volverá a pasar nunca más. Ya me he instalado Icedove... Y con referente a Pulseaudio, Debian lo ha instalado solito eligiendo como entorno a LXDE... así que... ¡Un saludo a todos y gracias! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53286a3a.9090...@gmail.com
Re: [¿OT?] Controlador de volumen LXDE Testing (SOLUCIONADO)
El Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:46:02 +0100, DDD escribió: Gracias Gonzalo, Camleón y Bauzá. Pues.. me iba a comer. Aunque juraría no haberlo visto en los applets... ¡Aaagh! Estoy ciego :( Lo del HTML no volverá a pasar nunca más. Ya me he instalado Icedove... Je, eso dicen todos :-) Y con referente a Pulseaudio, Debian lo ha instalado solito eligiendo como entorno a LXDE... así que... ¡No jorobes! :-o ¿Y qué hace PA en LXDE? Quizá se te haya colado como recomendación de algún paquete pero es que ni así, en todo caso sería Phonom que es de KDE ¿no? Pues si tienes PA instalado y tu consumo es de 90 MiB de RAM (calculando... a 90 le quitamos 70 de PA... nos queda... hum...) bien, pues eso quiere decir que LXDE se te llevará unos 10 MiB O:-P Ná es broma. Es GNOME, PA tiene un consumo RAM de unos 10-15 MiB. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.03.18.15.58...@gmail.com
Re: svn trunk modo espejo
El Tue, 18 Mar 2014 12:36:32 -0300, Atilio escribió: (ese html...) Alguien sabe, alguna forma de tener un mirror-espejo del repo svn sin utilizar svn export, ni mount davfs que permite tener el trunk para realizar escrituras pero sin autoversionar el repo. Pues no, pero seguro que encuentras algo buceando en Google: https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en#complete=0hl=enq=svn+mirror+howto Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.03.18.16.04...@gmail.com
gestion maquinas xen
quiero gestionar las maquinas virtuales de un xen 4.1.4 desde otra
maquina, para poder pararlas arrancarlas, obtener consola, etc.
Algo del estilo de la consola vbox
No me aclaro mucho con lo que me encuentro en google, pues me lo
mezcla con citrix que no es mi caso.
Me dais alguna pista sobre la que empezar a buscar en base a vuestra
EXPERIENCIA ¿?
Un saludo y gracias.
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Re: gestion maquinas xen
El Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:29:30 +0100, Mariano Cediel escribió: quiero gestionar las maquinas virtuales de un xen 4.1.4 desde otra maquina, para poder pararlas arrancarlas, obtener consola, etc. Algo del estilo de la consola vbox No me aclaro mucho con lo que me encuentro en google, pues me lo mezcla con citrix que no es mi caso. Me dais alguna pista sobre la que empezar a buscar en base a vuestra EXPERIENCIA ¿? No, pero te puede servir este hilo: XEN Manager https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2013/08/msg00239.html Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.03.18.16.37...@gmail.com
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Re: gestion maquinas xen
El mar, 18-03-2014 a las 17:29 +0100, Mariano Cediel escribió: quiero gestionar las maquinas virtuales de un xen 4.1.4 desde otra maquina, para poder pararlas arrancarlas, obtener consola, etc. Algo del estilo de la consola vbox No me aclaro mucho con lo que me encuentro en google, pues me lo mezcla con citrix que no es mi caso. Me dais alguna pista sobre la que empezar a buscar en base a vuestra EXPERIENCIA ¿? Un saludo y gracias. yo tengo xenserver (el de citrix, ahora es gratis (la licencia es por soporte nada mas, no recuerdo en este momento que tan libre sea)). Y lo administramos con XenCenter. XenServer es una distribución de linux que ya trae todo listo, y el cliente es solo para windows, por irónico que suene. Entonces puse en mi computadora un virtualbox con winxp para levantar xencenter y administrar desde ahí. Con wine no logré arrancar el xencenter Mi compañero de trabajo en su momento usó una máquina virtual con xp en el propio server y manejaba desde ahí. Además, instalando una vm con oracle linux entre los paquetes instalados vi que incluye un 'virt-manager', que está en los repositorios de debian, pero nunca logré conectarme al xenserver -- (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-).-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395162948.2521.7.ca...@eeepc.ucasal.ar
Re: gestion maquinas xen
Además, instalando una vm con oracle linux entre los paquetes instalados
vi que incluye un 'virt-manager', que está en los repositorios de
debian, pero nunca logré conectarme al xenserver
Ahi me encuentro yo ... que no sé qué hay que instalar en el xen (o en
el cliente/visor), que son maquinas distintas para poder conectarse
Todo esto está de pena documentado.
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Re: Popcorn Time como instalarlo?
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 12:47:54 -0300 Henry Linux henry.linux.1...@gmail.com wrote: no es legal sigue siendo pirata la gente labura para hacer una pelicula y hay que pagar por su trabajo a vos te gustaria que no te paguen por tu laburo? Eres ignorante, pero eso es bueno por que puedes dejar de serlo. Estas hablando bajo que leyes de que nación? -- Servicios:. http://mamalibre.com.ar/plus MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires, Argentina pgpQwm2uYt_na.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Popcorn Time como instalarlo?
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:09:38 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Increíble que el código fuente ocupe apenas 3 MiB y los binarios no bajen de 35 MiB :-O Debe ser por que es static supongo. Si quieres ver el hilo completo debes dirigirte a un navegador https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2014/03/threads.html Saludos -- Servicios:. http://mamalibre.com.ar/plus MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires, Argentina pgph2VKb1iCtb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Popcorn Time como instalarlo?
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:25:31 -0300 Fabián Bonetti mama21m...@riseup.net wrote: Según me contaron en el canal #popcorntime en la red freenode es por que la mayor parte es por la dependencia most of it is dependencies (node-webkit) -- Servicios:. http://mamalibre.com.ar/plus MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires, Argentina pgpJ2sja0Pzhf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Popcorn Time como instalarlo?
El Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:25:31 -0300, Fabián Bonetti escribió: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:09:38 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Increíble que el código fuente ocupe apenas 3 MiB y los binarios no bajen de 35 MiB :-O Debe ser por que es static supongo. Aún así, la diferencia de tamaño es enorme (me pareció que la versión de 32 bits ocupa menos que la de 64 !), y lo raro es que el binario para Windows también es gordito. Si quieres ver el hilo completo debes dirigirte a un navegador https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2014/03/threads.html No quiero ver el hilo completo sino saber a qué respondes que parece que estés hablando solo. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.03.18.18.41...@gmail.com
LS
buenas tardes alguna ves en mi vida me parecio haber leido sobre formas de buscar archivos con ls ahora bien explicare con un ejemplo para ver si alguien me puede ayudar tengo una carpeta con muchos archivos .log cuyo formato de nombre es algo como: edward__mm_dd edward_2014_01_26 edward_2014_01_27 edward_2014_01_28 edward_2014_01_29 ... edward_2014_02_26 edward_2014_02_27 edward_2014_04_28 edward_2014_05_29 ... y quiero la lista de todos los archivos de cada ciertos meses tengo la forma poco practica de hacerlos asi ls -lr edward_2014_01* edward_2014_02* edward_2014_03* cuando quiero ver los archivos generados esos meses pero se que hay una forma de escribir menos lo digo por a en ocaciones no son 3 meses sino años si alguien me puede ayudar Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CADfsJo3n7+zVYb01TO+WDPnLZHq1Z=6WfWcLgCHKj6C5bj8a=q...@mail.gmail.com
Re: LS
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 06:48:54PM -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) wrote:
buenas tardes
alguna ves en mi vida me parecio haber leido sobre formas de buscar
archivos con ls
ahora bien explicare con un ejemplo para ver si alguien me puede ayudar
tengo una carpeta con muchos archivos .log cuyo formato de nombre es algo
como:
edward__mm_dd
edward_2014_01_26
edward_2014_01_27
edward_2014_01_28
edward_2014_01_29
...
edward_2014_02_26
edward_2014_02_27
edward_2014_04_28
edward_2014_05_29
...
y quiero la lista de todos los archivos de cada ciertos meses
tengo la forma poco practica de hacerlos asi
ls -lr edward_2014_01* edward_2014_02* edward_2014_03*
cuando quiero ver los archivos generados esos meses
pero se que hay una forma de escribir menos lo digo por a en ocaciones
no son 3 meses sino años
si alguien me puede ayudar
Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd
No es 'ls' lo que hace el trabajo, sino bash. Bash y otros shells
tienen un mecanismo denominado globbing, que te permite usar
patrones parecidos a las expresiones regulares, con los cuales puedes
hacer cosas como:
$ ls -lr edward_2014_0[123]*
$ ls -lr edward_2014_0@(1|2|3)*
...
La primera forma es un glob normal. El [...] representa UN solo
caracter, cualquiera de los 3 enumerados. La segunda forma requiere
de 'extglob' (habilitado con: shopt -s extglob), para usar patrones
más avanzados.
Los elementos que puedes utilizar para formar tus patrones son:
- ? el cual hace 'match' de un solo caracter, es como el '.' en
regex
- * el cual hace 'match' de cero o más caracteres, de cualquier
tipo (comodín)
- [abc] el cual hace 'match' a un solo caracter, si el caracter está
en el conjunto expresado ('a', 'b', o 'c')
- [a-z] el cual hace 'match' al rango de caracteres que van desde la
'a' hasta la 'z', según la configuración que tengas de 'locale'.
Por ejemplo, archivos de los años 2012, 2013, y 2014:
$ ls -lr edward_201[234]_*
Para selecciones más complejas, requieres de extglob. Por ejemplo,
los archivos de los años de 1995 a 1997 y de 2003 a 2005:
$ shopt -s extglob
$ ls -lr edward_@(199[567]|200[345])_*
Con 'extglob' en bash puedes usar:
- @(a|b|c)alternativas
- ?(abc) opcional,
y otros más, pero te recomiendo que leas el manual de bash para más
detalle.
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Re: LS(SOLUCIONADO)
LISTO muchas gracias eduardo Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CADfsJo1ZzUmxGcxGZfF-Bf2vGmXy8b+=dgyzdvqi+frzq4f...@mail.gmail.com
Gnome Kde
Hola, Me comprado un disco duro nuevo he instalado Debian testing. Ahora ya no viene Gnome por defecto sino Xfce, me gustaría si puede ser para poder decidirme por uno u otro, que me indique la ventajas y desventajas de cada uno de ellos. Gracias de antemano. Saludos José Manuel Gran Canaria - España -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5328e368.6000...@infonegocio.com
Re: Gnome Kde
El día 18 de marzo de 2014, 21:23, José Manuel (EB8CXW) eb8cx...@infonegocio.com escribió: Hola, Me comprado un disco duro nuevo he instalado Debian testing. Ahora ya no viene Gnome por defecto sino Xfce, me gustaría si puede ser para poder decidirme por uno u otro, que me indique la ventajas y desventajas de cada uno de ellos. Gracias de antemano. Saludos José Manuel Gran Canaria - España hola, es cosa de gustos, pero por ejem, en gnome hay un bug con el escritorio. que aun no puedo solucionar. pd: también estoy en testing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5328e368.6000...@infonegocio.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAG799-pMZLAEci0GJLSgSwet0nwHAcNktfvHcRSp1X=hm+l...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Gnome Kde
El mié, 19-03-2014 a las 00:23 +, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió: Hola, Me comprado un disco duro nuevo he instalado Debian testing. Ahora ya no viene Gnome por defecto sino Xfce, me gustaría si puede ser para poder decidirme por uno u otro, que me indique la ventajas y desventajas de cada uno de ellos. Gracias de antemano. Saludos José Manuel Gran Canaria - España si tenés suficiente espacio de disco, instala los dos. Usá una temporada uno, después el otro durante otra temporada. Y después quedate con el que cumplió mejor tus necesidades -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395191624.3327.10.ca...@gonzalo.casa
Re: gestion maquinas xen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saludos: El 18/03/14 18:15, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: yo tengo xenserver (el de citrix, ahora es gratis (la licencia es por soporte nada mas, no recuerdo en este momento que tan libre sea)). Y lo administramos con XenCenter. XenServer es una distribución de linux que ya trae todo listo, y el cliente es solo para windows, por irónico que suene. Entonces puse en mi computadora un virtualbox con winxp para levantar xencenter y administrar desde ahí. Con wine no logré arrancar el xencenter Tan irónico si cabe como que determinadas versiones de RHEV (Red Hat Enterprise Virtualisation) solo se pueden administrar con Internet Explorer... verdad de la buena ;) - -- Alfonso alfo...@gnuino.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMo8bQACgkQZgftj70Qggm2AACglqvLKxXZ0TQQrAviEU/f1xnv q04An2A63r9UB4iYnivr29pqPM+PBIeu =fm4W -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5328f1b4.4090...@gnuino.net
nwrite
buenas noches no entiendo como usar el nwrite y menos se que es el tty Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CADfsJo0iBDu+RwAEQP0GTMNHac=udbvua8fo4ft2spxpqsk...@mail.gmail.com
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which is the best lan messanger
I would like to know which is the best and stable internal chat with out internet. My requirement is it should have centralized console to manage client users and their chat logs like messenger server and client chat log should be save in the server, and this for monitoring purpose Form the server side User creation, editing and deletion this should be possible
Re: which is the best lan messanger
Debian Admin debianupd...@gmail.com writes: I would like to know which is the best and stable internal chat with out internet. My requirement is it should have centralized console to manage client users and their chat logs like messenger server and client chat log should be save in the server, and this for monitoring purpose Form the server side User creation, editing and deletion this should be possible % apt-cache search irc server | grep server ... ircd-irc2 - The original IRC server daemon ... pgpkVtA7hTHRf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Resolved] Re: When fogetting assigned login name rather than password
On Lu, 17 mar 14, 08:46:08, Richard Owlett wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 15 mar 14, 09:08:52, Richard Owlett wrote: Sequence was: Do full install install of Squeeze to sda1. Only non-default was size of install partition. Well, setting a root password is quite a weak default. If you just press enter (leaving the password blank) you get the sudo setup ;) But for my tests reproducibility outranks strength. I purchased a used laptop to be dedicated to these experiments. It intentionally has no network connectivity. There is nothing on the machine that is not on the install DVD's. This serves two purposes: 1. learn the ins and outs of Debian by experiment - suits my learning style 2. choose a user experience that suits my quirks It feels like we are talking past each other... Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: which is the best lan messanger
On 18/03/14 20:24, Debian Admin wrote: I would like to know which is the best and stable internal chat with out internet. My requirement is it should have centralized console to manage client users and their chat logs like messenger server and client chat log should be save in the server, and this for monitoring purpose Form the server side User creation, editing and deletion this should be possible Is this *just* for Debian? Neither linpopup or iptux have a centralized console. It's possible that what you want is the sub-set of groupware capabilities. This might help:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_LAN_messengers Hint: you'd be wanting Serverless == No Kind regards -- Please observe the Code of Conduct and send only plain-text posts to the list:- https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct Click twice to send plain-text from Gmail:- https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Gmail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53281623.6040...@gmail.com
Re: When fogetting assigned login name rather than password (and disabling root login)
On Lu, 17 mar 14, 08:43:24, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 17/03/14 04:44, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 16 mar 14, 01:24:03, Scott Ferguson wrote: In the spirit of investigation I tried testing a few methods of disabling root login (there are likely other methods) AFAIK the installer uses 'passswd -l'. Kind regards, Andrei Thanks for the information. From man passwd (less s, same action):- Thanks for spotting that. Lock the password of the named account. This option disables a password by changing it to a value which matches no possible encrypted value (it adds a ´!´ at the beginning of the password). Note that this does not disable the account. The user may still be able to login using another authentication token (e.g. an SSH key). To disable the account, administrators should use usermod --expiredate 1 (this set the account's expire date to Jan 2, 1970). This means that I can drop my ssh key in .ssh/authorized_keys and 'ssh root@hostname' if needed, which I find to be a good thing. Users with a locked password are not allowed to change their password. So passwd -l 'might'[*1] have the same effect as the second method I tried (in the post you refer to) which *does* stop the user rebooting into single-mode and logging in as root. The ways for a user to restore root logins in that situation are:- ;use rescue mode from the installer ;edit /etc/passwd using another OS ;append init=$something to the boot parameter ;(as the man suggests) login with ssh - provided you've set a token and don't have encryption (I'm not sure if I tried that and failed...). The method suggested there for administrators 'should' (I haven't had time to test it) have the same effect as chage -E 0 root which won't prohibit the user rebooting into single-mode and logging in as root. Kind regards [*1] untested, so I don't know if it adds the ! to the start of the relevant line in /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow. I used /etc/passwd. YMMV. I just did a stable install for a friend and decided to use the 'sudo' setup (i.e. pressing Enter on the root password prompt in Debian Installer). The results: /etc/passwd root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash /etc/shadow root:!:16146:0:9:7::: Recovery mode works as already demonstrated by Brian: sulogin: root account is locked, starting shell root@hostname:~# Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Backup's to DVD
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 11:34:29 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: On 18/03/14 11:02, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 08:52:14 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: The longevity of flash is still a big unknown. Well observered, Sir. The same might be said for CDs and DVDs. Why anyone should entrust their data to such volatile media is beyond our comprehension. We are an very old, established company who operate in the Dead Sea area of the Middle East. Our product has a proven record and is used by many discerning clients who require the data they have entrusted to us to be accessible at any time. We offer a 3000 year guarantee that the material we use is suitable for long term storagei. We have scribes who rarely mistake 1s for 0s or vice versa. Employees who do are weeded out by our Quality Control Section and transferred to our sister company, Pyramid Enterprises PLC. Security of your data is of paramount importance to us; there is no compromise in this area of our operations. Even shepherd boys and goats are actively dissuaded from entering within a 10 km radius of our operations. Our distinguised clients Nefertiti, Isaiah and Tutankhamun have many, many good things to say about our services. Unfortunately, they are offline at present so are unable to answer your queries. Forget the Cloud - choose the Cave. You know it makes sense. Yet another desperate attempt by a failing company to capitalize on this list's readership by pushing unproven technology. A passing fad - what next? Asterix trying to sell bolders as portable? Get with it - tablets are the only way to go. Always have been been, always will be. Yours without wax, Proto Cuneiform -- Clay - it's here to stay and it's goat-proof! It's always the same; some attitudes never change. Introduce the most exciting invention since that of the abacus (thank you Jobs of Memphis) and some Stone Age Old Worlder chips in with a plea to continue the depletion of one of the Earth's non-renewable resources. Ever tried transporting the Epic of Gilgamesh from Babylon to Thebes in tablet form? Let me tell you, it's horrendous. Can't remember the number of donkeys and carts it took but the feed bill was astonomical. As for customs at the borders, they though we were importing buiding materials so the bribes mounted up. And don't have an accident; sticking the broken pieces back together is no fun, even after the pain in your toes has worn off. Papyrus: just a few sheets which can be rolled up and put in your pocket. Reading it while riding on the back of a camel is also a pleasant way of passing the time on a long journey. Someone who sold blank tablets once said 640 is enough for anyone. We envisage information as unlimited and we're expanding, with branches opened recently in Athens and Rome. Tomorrow the world! It 'sounds' very attractive... until the donkey eats your backups. Tablets - just do it! (no ink required) For a limited time only we'll throw in not one, but two free reeds with every order from debian user subscribers. We built our reputation on tablets (and our office). They're a solid investment in time proven technology. You can't build anything substantial with papyrus. There's only one thing it's good for and that's not writing on - but it does come on a roll. -- Clay - it's here to stay and it's goat-proof! Are these tablets the same ones which were used to build this tower at Babel? We all know what happened there. You'll have to do better if you want to play with the big boys. Our RD Department is also well ahead of you in devising a new product. Innovation means new markets; our objective is 5 in every home in the known world. Let's see you do *that* with clay (wet or sun-baked). Wake up and smell the grass. P.S. You appear to have a fixation on donkeys and goats. Medical help is available to deal with the condition. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318095451.gi26...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: initscripts breaks ifupdown
On Du, 16 mar 14, 14:04:12, John Magolske wrote: The issue was that ifupdown was pinned to 0.7.44 : ... Taking a look in /etc/apt/preferences I saw this: Explanation: Pinned by apt-listbugs at Sat Nov 09 17:32:44 -0800 2013 Explanation: #727073: ifupdown: current version somehow brings the ifaces up too late Package: ifupdown Pin: version 0.7.44 Pin-Priority: 1000 Deleting that passage from /etc/apt/preferences and doing `aptitude install ifupdown` brought ifupdown up to 0.7.47.2 I had a vague memory of pinning something / allowing something to be pinned a while back, but didn't have anything in my notes about it. Thanks for the clue! Will remember `apt-cache policy` for sure now. Since you're using aptitude you might be very interested in the 'forbid-version' command. To the situation above, after seeing the apt-listbugs warning you just cancel the upgrade and aptitude forbid-version ifupdown (hope I got it right, I use aptitude only in interactive mode) aptitude now will *not* upgrade to this version, but *will* upgrade to the next one (which hopefully has the bug fixed). It's fire-and-forget ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 06:02:33AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: || The '-query' option to xrdb is useful. Interesting you used your original || .Xresources rather than one modified in the light of your experience. :) || || That;s because I want my .Xresources to work, I had made colorscheme || changes to it! || Here is the complete .Xresources that I am trying to use || http://paste.debian.net/88298/ || || The only thing that works for me is xrdb -load .Xresources and xrdb || .Xresources This suggests that the resources that are loaded into your X server by default contain settings with a higher priority than your own .Xresources. The xrdb -merge merges your settings, but leaves the higher priority resources there as well, so your settings seem to have no effect. The xrdb -load throws away all settings including the higher priority ones, thus letting your settings take effect. Use the appres tool to find out what the actual settings are that are loaded in your X server. If this confirms the theory, you can start finding out where the higher priority settings come from. Vincent. -- Vincent Zweije vinc...@zweije.nl | If you're flamed in a group you http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/ | don't read, does anybody get burnt? [Xhost should be taken out and shot] |-- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
This suggests that the resources that are loaded into your X server by default contain settings with a higher priority than your own .Xresources. The xrdb -merge merges your settings, but leaves the higher priority resources there as well, so your settings seem to have no effect. The xrdb -load throws away all settings including the higher priority ones, thus letting your settings take effect. Use the appres tool to find out what the actual settings are that are loaded in your X server. If this confirms the theory, you can start finding out where the higher priority settings come from. Hi! appres tool gives me this output, and these are the same values that are in my current .Xresources! Any pointers? -- *color8:#505354 *color14: #899ca1 *color9:#ff5995 *background:#1b1d1e *color15: #f8f8f2 *color2:#82b414 *color0:#1b1d1e *customization: -color *color3:#fd971f *color1:#f92672 *foreground:#a0a0a0 *color4:#56c2d6 *color10: #b6e354 *color5:#8c54fe *color11: #feed6c *color6:#465457 *color12: #8cedff *color7:#c6 *color13: #9e6ffe Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9af5zy7zlt3iiwr8wk9o9b9f6pgyyp_vjzwvbskzcca...@mail.gmail.com
Re: which is the best lan messanger
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 02:54:59PM +0530, Debian Admin wrote: I would like to know which is the best and stable internal chat with out internet. My requirement is it should have centralized console to manage client users and their chat logs like messenger server and client chat log should be save in the server, and this for monitoring purpose Form the server side User creation, editing and deletion this should be possible I think I would look at ejabberd, the XMPP server. You should be able to set it up on an internal server. Users can be managed through the admin web-console. Centralised logging can also be added by loading a module (which module depends on how you want to log, but have a look at http://www.ejabberd.im/node/2782). As it's XMPP, Users can connect using any XMPP client they feel comfortable with (Pidgin is a popular one, but there are command-line ones for example). signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Backup's to DVD
On 18/03/14 20:54, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 11:34:29 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: On 18/03/14 11:02, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 08:52:14 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: The longevity of flash is still a big unknown. Well observered, Sir. The same might be said for CDs and DVDs. Why anyone should entrust their data to such volatile media is beyond our comprehension. We are an very old, established company who operate in the Dead Sea area of the Middle East. Our product has a proven record and is used by many discerning clients who require the data they have entrusted to us to be accessible at any time. We offer a 3000 year guarantee that the material we use is suitable for long term storagei. We have scribes who rarely mistake 1s for 0s or vice versa. Employees who do are weeded out by our Quality Control Section and transferred to our sister company, Pyramid Enterprises PLC. Security of your data is of paramount importance to us; there is no compromise in this area of our operations. Even shepherd boys and goats are actively dissuaded from entering within a 10 km radius of our operations. Our distinguised clients Nefertiti, Isaiah and Tutankhamun have many, many good things to say about our services. Unfortunately, they are offline at present so are unable to answer your queries. Forget the Cloud - choose the Cave. You know it makes sense. Yet another desperate attempt by a failing company to capitalize on this list's readership by pushing unproven technology. A passing fad - what next? Asterix trying to sell bolders as portable? Get with it - tablets are the only way to go. Always have been been, always will be. Yours without wax, Proto Cuneiform -- Clay - it's here to stay and it's goat-proof! It's always the same; some attitudes never change. Introduce the most exciting invention since that of the abacus (thank you Jobs of Memphis) and some Stone Age Old Worlder chips in with a plea to continue the depletion of one of the Earth's non-renewable resources. Ever tried transporting the Epic of Gilgamesh from Babylon to Thebes in tablet form? Let me tell you, it's horrendous. Papyrus is the favoured medium of smugglers and other ne'er-do-wells. We're an honest company catering to the needs of honest, upright and enterprising customers. All good, informed consumers know the TSA never found a tourist trying to smuggle a tablet onto a barge. Can't remember the number of donkeys and carts it took but the feed bill was astonomical. As for customs at the borders, they though we were importing buiding materials so the bribes mounted up. And don't have an accident; sticking the broken pieces back together is no fun, even after the pain in your toes has worn off. Papyrus: just a few sheets which can be rolled up and put in your pocket. Reading it while riding on the back of a camel is also a pleasant way of passing the time on a long journey. Someone who sold blank tablets once said 640 is enough for anyone. We envisage information as unlimited and we're expanding, with branches opened recently in Athens and Rome. Tomorrow the world! It 'sounds' very attractive... until the donkey eats your backups. Tablets - just do it! (no ink required) For a limited time only we'll throw in not one, but two free reeds with every order from debian user subscribers. We built our reputation on tablets (and our office). They're a solid investment in time proven technology. You can't build anything substantial with papyrus. There's only one thing it's good for and that's not writing on - but it does come on a roll. -- Clay - it's here to stay and it's goat-proof! Are these tablets the same ones which were used to build this tower at Babel? We all know what happened there. You'll have to do better if you want to play with the big boys. And we all know what happened to the Tower of Papyrus. Our RD Department is also well ahead of you in devising a new product. Innovation means new markets; our objective is 5 in every home in the known world. Let's see you do *that* with clay (wet or sun-baked). Wake up and smell the grass. Your product is ideal for the privy, but your other claims, like the product are flimsy. P.S. You appear to have a fixation on donkeys and goats. Medical help is available to deal with the condition. That's rich coming from a company who fails to tell the customers the actual production technique - following reed eating goats around. Papyrus, only found near rivers with goats. Clay - available almost anywhere (with the added benefits of kaolonite). We know intelligent customers prefer a solid, time tested and proven product and we've been listening. Do your customers know that when Steve found your product failed
Re: which is the best lan messanger
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Debian Admin debianupd...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to know which is the best and stable internal chat with out internet. ejabberd (XMPP) My 2¢, HTH Cheers, Nuno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cadqa9uyrk78zqyx9mhbuglghb7kjmy9mnpehr+nqksxybqt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 04:01:36PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: || This suggests that the resources that are loaded into your X server || by default contain settings with a higher priority than your own || .Xresources. The xrdb -merge merges your settings, but leaves the || higher priority resources there as well, so your settings seem to have || no effect. The xrdb -load throws away all settings including the higher || priority ones, thus letting your settings take effect. || || Use the appres tool to find out what the actual settings are that are || loaded in your X server. If this confirms the theory, you can start || finding out where the higher priority settings come from. || || Hi! appres tool gives me this output, and these are the same values || that are in my current .Xresources! || Any pointers? || || -- *color8:#505354 || *color14: #899ca1 || *color9:#ff5995 || *background:#1b1d1e || *color15: #f8f8f2 || *color2:#82b414 || *color0:#1b1d1e || *customization: -color || *color3:#fd971f || *color1:#f92672 || *foreground:#a0a0a0 || *color4:#56c2d6 || *color10: #b6e354 || *color5:#8c54fe || *color11: #feed6c || *color6:#465457 || *color12: #8cedff || *color7:#c6 || *color13: #9e6ffe Are those the default settings, or did you run xrdb -load already? Vincent. -- Vincent Zweije vinc...@zweije.nl | If you're flamed in a group you http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/ | don't read, does anybody get burnt? [Xhost should be taken out and shot] |-- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Are those the default settings, or did you run xrdb -load already? No I haven't run xrdb -load .Xresources yet These are the same colors that I have used in my .Xresources. -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9ah6bz2q-79snhmfcwuvfhzacepk8vdid8onhrcd-h8...@mail.gmail.com
Fonts providing emojis?
What Debian font packages provide emojis? At least, thats what i think they are. Ive seen messages with little rectangular boxes with 01f 44d and 01f 1e7 in them, and some googling suggests these are thumbs-up signs and things like that. How doe i get these to display? (Also how do i look these up? Literally. I google and get a bunch of random things, without very much work. If I know its some kind of font, what do i type? 01f 1e7 codepoint or 01f 1e7 unicode don't work.) Thanks! Jen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395142712.36984.yahoomail...@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum bg271...@yahoo.comwrote: What Debian font packages provide emojis? 絵文字？ At least, thats what i think they are. Ive seen messages with little rectangular boxes with 01f 44d and 01f 1e7 in them, and some googling suggests these are thumbs-up signs and things like that. How doe i get these to display? If you are talking about the Japanese e-moji, well, frankly, I've been tending to ignore them as substitute for the constructed emoticons like 8-*. (Also how do i look these up? Literally. I google and get a bunch of random things, without very much work. If I know its some kind of font, what do i type? 01f 1e7 codepoint or 01f 1e7 unicode don't work.) You might want to ask on the Japanese user list. If my brain kicks into gear, I may recall where they are defined and who has charge of them, beyond that they are mostly proprietary extensions of the JIS character space. It does seem like I recently read that some of them have been brought into the unicode set, so you might want to nose around in unicode.org's pages. But, of course, not all those rectangular character substitutions are going to be e-moji. In fact, hardly any of them are, statistically speaking. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart.
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum bg271...@yahoo.com wrote: What Debian font packages provide emojis? 絵文字？ Come to think of it, have you looked at the emoji page on wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji At least, thats what i think they are. Ive seen messages with little rectangular boxes with 01f 44d and 01f 1e7 in them, and some googling suggests these are thumbs-up signs and things like that. How doe i get these to display? If you are talking about the Japanese e-moji, well, frankly, I've been tending to ignore them as substitute for the constructed emoticons like 8-*. (Also how do i look these up? Literally. I google and get a bunch of random things, without very much work. If I know its some kind of font, what do i type? 01f 1e7 codepoint or 01f 1e7 unicode don't work.) You might want to ask on the Japanese user list. If my brain kicks into gear, I may recall where they are defined and who has charge of them, beyond that they are mostly proprietary extensions of the JIS character space. It does seem like I recently read that some of them have been brought into the unicode set, so you might want to nose around in unicode.org's pages. And, in fact, the wikipedia page I pointed at above has links to the ones that have been adopted into the Unicode standard. But, of course, not all those rectangular character substitutions are going to be e-moji. In fact, hardly any of them are, statistically speaking. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart.
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On 18/03/14 22:38, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: What Debian font packages provide emojis? apt-file search and apt-cache search give nothing. Fortunately fontology is a hobby so I know it's part of Symbola. At least, thats what i think they are. Ive seen messages with little rectangular boxes with 01f 44d and 01f 1e7 in them, and some googling suggests these are thumbs-up signs and things like that. How doe i get these to display? (Also how do i look these up? Literally. I google and get a bunch of random things, without very much work. If I know its some kind of font, what do i type? 01f 1e7 codepoint or 01f 1e7 unicode don't work.) Type in what? A search engine to find it? https://www.google.com/search?q=emojis+filetype%3Attf Hint: https://www.google.com/search?q=Symbola+filetype%3Attf :) Thanks! Jen curl --header 'Host: raw.github.com' --header 'User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:27.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/27.0 Iceweasel/27.0.1' --header 'Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8' --header 'Accept-Language: en-au,en-us;q=0.7,en;q=0.3' --header 'Referer: https://github.com/tmatz/SymbolaGoomoji.ttf/blob/master/SymbolaGoomoji.ttf' --header 'Cookie: logged_in=no' --header 'DNT: 1' --header 'Connection: keep-alive' 'https://raw.github.com/tmatz/SymbolaGoomoji.ttf/master/SymbolaGoomoji.ttf' -o 'SymbolaGoomoji.ttf' -L curl --header 'Host: raw.github.com' --header 'User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:27.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/27.0 Iceweasel/27.0.1' --header 'Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8' --header 'Accept-Language: en-au,en-us;q=0.7,en;q=0.3' --header 'Referer: https://github.com/tmatz/SymbolaGoomoji.ttf/blob/master/Symbola.ttf' --header 'Cookie: logged_in=no' --header 'DNT: 1' --header 'Connection: keep-alive' 'https://raw.github.com/tmatz/SymbolaGoomoji.ttf/master/Symbola.ttf' -o 'Symbola.ttf' -L # mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # cp Symbola.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # mkfontscale /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # ls /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola fonts.dir fonts.scale Symbola.ttf Rinse and repeat for SymbolaGoomoji.ttf I use and highly recommend fontmatrix - a font manager/viewer/wizard. Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/532839bb.6010...@gmail.com
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On 18/03/14 23:18, Joel Rees wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com mailto:joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum bg271...@yahoo.com mailto:bg271...@yahoo.com wrote: What Debian font packages provide emojis? snipped And, in fact, the wikipedia page I pointed at above has links to the ones that have been adopted into the Unicode standard. But, of course, not all those rectangular character substitutions are going to be e-moji. In fact, hardly any of them are, statistically speaking. Statistically perhaps - if you only install the 252 Emoji glyphs, but, if you install Symbola (it includes emoji), and between they cover most symbols. Hieroglyphics and various others. 7752 glyphs in total. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53283bb3.8020...@gmail.com
Re: Using LTSP on a Debian server with Raspberry PI thin clients
You might try the berry terminal site: www.berryterminal.com Haven’t tried it, but is looks like a thin client for LSTP that boots from a SD card. Peter On 17 mrt. 2014, at 18:06, James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, To simplify things I was thinking about running a couple of RPI thin clients off my debian server? I would be using either powerline networking or wireless. I think I'll need to install a special bootloader on the RPI as they can't boot using PXE. I was wondering if anyone had actually implemented a system like this, and if it was responsive enough to be useful? Are there any other considerations I might need to think about? All the best, James
Update Squeeze to Wheezy syslog audit entry
Hello,
today I have update squeeze to wheezy and now my syslog is full of
messaged like:
Mar 18 13:38:39 vsrv65965 kernel: [ 8518.427682] type=1400
audit(1395146319.571:8122): avc: denied { read } for pid=989
comm=postgres name=pg_filenode.map dev=xvda1 ino=655638
scontext=system_u:system_r:postgresql_t:s0
tcontext=unconfined_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file
Mar 18 13:38:39 vsrv65965 kernel: [ 8518.427710] type=1400
audit(1395146319.571:8123): avc: denied { open } for pid=989
comm=postgres name=pg_filenode.map dev=xvda1 ino=655638
scontext=system_u:system_r:postgresql_t:s0
tcontext=unconfined_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file
Mar 18 13:38:39 vsrv65965 kernel: [ 8518.428387] type=1400
audit(1395146319.572:8124): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=989
comm=postgres
path=/var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/base/16400/PG_VERSION dev=xvda1
ino=671762 scontext=system_u:system_r:postgresql_t:s0
tcontext=unconfined_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file
Mar 18 13:38:39 vsrv65965 kernel: [ 8518.429542] type=1400
audit(1395146319.573:8125): avc: denied { write } for pid=989
comm=postgres name=11734 dev=xvda1 ino=671767
scontext=system_u:system_r:postgresql_t:s0
tcontext=unconfined_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file
selinux-policy-default is not installed.
The machine is a XEN vbox (Linux 3.0.101 #2 SMP Mon Dec 30 13:15:49 CET
2013 x86_64).
Regards,
Basti
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Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 04:01:36PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: || This suggests that the resources that are loaded into your X server || by default contain settings with a higher priority than your own || .Xresources. The xrdb -merge merges your settings, but leaves the || higher priority resources there as well, so your settings seem to have || no effect. The xrdb -load throws away all settings including the higher || priority ones, thus letting your settings take effect. || || Use the appres tool to find out what the actual settings are that are || loaded in your X server. If this confirms the theory, you can start || finding out where the higher priority settings come from. || || Hi! appres tool gives me this output, and these are the same values || that are in my current .Xresources! || Any pointers? || || -- *color8:#505354 || *color14: #899ca1 || *color9:#ff5995 || *background:#1b1d1e || *color15: #f8f8f2 || *color2:#82b414 || *color0:#1b1d1e || *customization: -color || *color3:#fd971f || *color1:#f92672 || *foreground:#a0a0a0 || *color4:#56c2d6 || *color10: #b6e354 || *color5:#8c54fe || *color11: #feed6c || *color6:#465457 || *color12: #8cedff || *color7:#c6 || *color13: #9e6ffe Memory fault, sorry. Try xrdb -query to see all resources being used. Alternatively, pass application class and instance name to appres, for example: appres XTerm xterm Vincent. -- Vincent Zweije vinc...@zweije.nl | If you're flamed in a group you http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/ | don't read, does anybody get burnt? [Xhost should be taken out and shot] |-- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:19 AM, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/03/14 22:38, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: What Debian font packages provide emojis? apt-file search and apt-cache search give nothing. Fortunately fontology is a hobby so I know it's part of Symbola. At least, thats what i think they are. Ive seen messages with little rectangular boxes with 01f 44d and 01f 1e7 in them, and some googling suggests these are thumbs-up signs and things like that. How doe i get these to display? (Also how do i look these up? Literally. I google and get a bunch of random things, without very much work. If I know its some kind of font, what do i type? 01f 1e7 codepoint or 01f 1e7 unicode don't work.) Type in what? A search engine to find it? https://www.google.com/search?q=emojis+filetype%3Attf That doesnt find anything. Hint: https://www.google.com/search?q=Symbola+filetype%3Attf :) That does, but requires me to know the answer already. I guess my question is, if i have a Twitter message with a rectangular box with 01f 1ey in it, how do i figure out what that is? [snipped] # mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # cp Symbola.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # mkfontscale /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # ls /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola fonts.dir fonts.scale Symbola.ttf Rinse and repeat for SymbolaGoomoji.ttf I use and highly recommend fontmatrix - a font manager/viewer/wizard. Thanks for these instructions. Is it really the case tht there's no pre-built package for this in Debian? These characters do seem to be increasingly widely used. Jen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395147987.98804.yahoomail...@web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On , Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum bg271...@yahoo.com wrote: That does, but requires me to know the answer already. I guess my question is, if i have a Twitter message with a rectangular box with 01f 1ey in it, how do i figure out what that is? Typo--i meant '01f 1e7, as in my original message. I gather 01f 1ey wouldnt be much of anything :-) Jen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395148293.91039.yahoomail...@web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: Backup's to DVD
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 21:50:18 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: On 18/03/14 20:54, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 11:34:29 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: On 18/03/14 11:02, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 08:52:14 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: The longevity of flash is still a big unknown. Well observered, Sir. The same might be said for CDs and DVDs. Why anyone should entrust their data to such volatile media is beyond our comprehension. We are an very old, established company who operate in the Dead Sea area of the Middle East. Our product has a proven record and is used by many discerning clients who require the data they have entrusted to us to be accessible at any time. We offer a 3000 year guarantee that the material we use is suitable for long term storagei. We have scribes who rarely mistake 1s for 0s or vice versa. Employees who do are weeded out by our Quality Control Section and transferred to our sister company, Pyramid Enterprises PLC. Security of your data is of paramount importance to us; there is no compromise in this area of our operations. Even shepherd boys and goats are actively dissuaded from entering within a 10 km radius of our operations. Our distinguised clients Nefertiti, Isaiah and Tutankhamun have many, many good things to say about our services. Unfortunately, they are offline at present so are unable to answer your queries. Forget the Cloud - choose the Cave. You know it makes sense. Yet another desperate attempt by a failing company to capitalize on this list's readership by pushing unproven technology. A passing fad - what next? Asterix trying to sell bolders as portable? Get with it - tablets are the only way to go. Always have been been, always will be. Yours without wax, Proto Cuneiform -- Clay - it's here to stay and it's goat-proof! It's always the same; some attitudes never change. Introduce the most exciting invention since that of the abacus (thank you Jobs of Memphis) and some Stone Age Old Worlder chips in with a plea to continue the depletion of one of the Earth's non-renewable resources. Ever tried transporting the Epic of Gilgamesh from Babylon to Thebes in tablet form? Let me tell you, it's horrendous. Papyrus is the favoured medium of smugglers and other ne'er-do-wells. We're an honest company catering to the needs of honest, upright and enterprising customers. All good, informed consumers know the TSA never found a tourist trying to smuggle a tablet onto a barge. Can't remember the number of donkeys and carts it took but the feed bill was astonomical. As for customs at the borders, they though we were importing buiding materials so the bribes mounted up. And don't have an accident; sticking the broken pieces back together is no fun, even after the pain in your toes has worn off. Papyrus: just a few sheets which can be rolled up and put in your pocket. Reading it while riding on the back of a camel is also a pleasant way of passing the time on a long journey. Someone who sold blank tablets once said 640 is enough for anyone. We envisage information as unlimited and we're expanding, with branches opened recently in Athens and Rome. Tomorrow the world! It 'sounds' very attractive... until the donkey eats your backups. Tablets - just do it! (no ink required) For a limited time only we'll throw in not one, but two free reeds with every order from debian user subscribers. We built our reputation on tablets (and our office). They're a solid investment in time proven technology. You can't build anything substantial with papyrus. There's only one thing it's good for and that's not writing on - but it does come on a roll. -- Clay - it's here to stay and it's goat-proof! Are these tablets the same ones which were used to build this tower at Babel? We all know what happened there. You'll have to do better if you want to play with the big boys. And we all know what happened to the Tower of Papyrus. Our RD Department is also well ahead of you in devising a new product. Innovation means new markets; our objective is 5 in every home in the known world. Let's see you do *that* with clay (wet or sun-baked). Wake up and smell the grass. Your product is ideal for the privy, but your other claims, like the product are flimsy. P.S. You appear to have a fixation on donkeys and goats. Medical help is available to deal with the condition. That's rich coming from a company who fails to tell the customers the actual production technique - following reed eating goats around. Incredible! This is getting close to you will be hearing from our lawyers time. Spreading
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On 19/03/14 00:06, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:19 AM, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/03/14 22:38, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: What Debian font packages provide emojis? apt-file search and apt-cache search give nothing. Fortunately fontology is a hobby so I know it's part of Symbola. At least, thats what i think they are. Ive seen messages with little rectangular boxes with 01f 44d and 01f 1e7 in them, and some googling suggests these are thumbs-up signs and things like that. How doe i get these to display? (Also how do i look these up? Literally. I google and get a bunch of random things, without very much work. If I know its some kind of font, what do i type? 01f 1e7 codepoint or 01f 1e7 unicode don't work.) Type in what? A search engine to find it? https://www.google.com/search?q=emojis+filetype%3Attf That doesnt find anything. Noted - which is why I included the second search URL. Also how do I look these things up was the question I was answering, though I'd already partially answered it. *1st step*. Search the Debian repository for a package with that name (or description) in the release you have installed:- # apt-file search $foo If that fails:- *2nd step*. Search for Debian packages that include file with that name:- $ apt-file search $foo NOTE: if apt-file is not installed:- # apt-get install apt-file *3rd step*. If that fails, try a search engine, in this case I'd try looking for a True Type Font first using the Google search parameter for file type filetype:$FileExtension (see examples elsewhere in this post). If that fails, or you aren't searching for a know file type, refine your search using Debian as a keyword to limit searches to Debian, the name, and the type of thing it is e.g. Debian emoji font e.g.:- https://www.google.com/search?q=Debian+emoji+font Which will generally provide an answer (if it's a problem you want to solve, search these lists first, Google second, and when using Google add the keyword solved to find solutions). Hint: https://www.google.com/search?q=Symbola+filetype%3Attf :) That does, but requires me to know the answer already. No, it requires you to know how to ask the right question *in order to find the answer to the question*. There's a difference. :) I guess my question is, if i have a Twitter message with a rectangular box with 01f 1ey in it, how do i figure out what that is? Part of asking the right question includes avoiding an x-y problem - by understanding, and in this case, initially communicating, *what* you want to do (read a Twitter message). That might mean (if you were trying to solve the problem all on your own) right-clicking in Iceweasel on the page and seeing what character set was in use (Page Info). That would probably show UTF. Which might lead to you asking Google:- https://www.google.com/search?q=unicode+font+codes Which in turn might lead you to:- http://www.unicode.org/charts/ Where entering the code 01f 1ey might put you on the path to the answer. Fortunately you took the smart path and asked on this list. [snipped] # mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # cp Symbola.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # mkfontscale /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola # ls /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Symbola fonts.dir fonts.scale Symbola.ttf Rinse and repeat for SymbolaGoomoji.ttf I use and highly recommend fontmatrix - a font manager/viewer/wizard. Thanks for these instructions. Is it really the case tht there's no pre-built package for this in Debian? Yes. These characters do seem to be increasingly widely used. Agreed. I guess you're asking why is the font not in the Debian repository? Are their license issues? That would be my first though when considering why they haven't been packaged yet. If their isn't please consider filing a bugreport as it could be no one has thought to ask (you can use reportbug to check). $ reportbug Choose novice, then the GTK interface, when you get to the type of request choose Prospective (the options are described), followed by RFP (request for package), then follow the remaining prompts. Jen Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53284eb3.8060...@gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Try xrdb -query Here is it output, the colors are exactly the same as in my .Xresources. *background:#1b1d1e *color0:#1b1d1e *color1:#f92672 *color10: #b6e354 *color11: #feed6c *color12: #8cedff *color13: #9e6ffe *color14: #899ca1 *color15: #f8f8f2 *color2:#82b414 *color3:#fd971f *color4:#56c2d6 *color5:#8c54fe *color6:#465457 *color7:#c6 *color8:#505354 *color9:#ff5995 *customization: -color *foreground:#a0a0a0 XTerm*ScrollBar:false XTerm*locale: true XTerm*metaSendsEscape: true XTerm*selectToClipboard:true Xcursor.theme: Pulse-Glass Xft.antialias: 1 Xft.autohint: 0 Xft.dpi:96 Xft.hinting:1 Xft.hintstyle: hintfull Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault Xft.rgba: rgb Xterm*saveLines:9000 xterm*VT100.geometry: 80x32 xterm*eightBitInput:false xterm*faceName: xft:Inconsolata:size=15:antialias=true xterm*loginShell: true xterm*scaleHeight: 1.01 xterm*termName: xterm-256color One thing I will like to say that appres XTerm xterm Xterm*saveLines:9000 xterm*VT100.geometry: 80x32 xterm*scaleHeight: 1.01 xterm*faceName: xft:Inconsolata:size=15:antialias=true xterm*termName: xterm-256color xterm*loginShell: true xterm*eightBitInput:false *color7:#c6 *color13: #9e6ffe *color8:#505354 *color14: #899ca1 *color9:#ff5995 *background:#1b1d1e *color15: #f8f8f2 *color2:#82b414 *color0:#1b1d1e *customization: -color *color3:#fd971f *color1:#f92672 *foreground:#a0a0a0 *color4:#56c2d6 *color10: #b6e354 *color5:#8c54fe *color11: #feed6c *color6:#465457 *color12: #8cedff Again the colors are the same. One more thing I would like to point out is that, the above outputs contains some extra lines in the output of 'xrdb -query that are *NOT* in my version of .Xresources. Like *customization: -color Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault etc. Also here is what my terminal looks like when I start my laptop and how it should look actually: http://imgur.com/a/C3EZi -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9ag+vymmw217206j+1hje-6dbqrols4qmwszwj6hwar...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 06:06 -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: Is it really the case tht there's no pre-built package for this in Debian? These characters do seem to be increasingly widely used. For my exotic audio production needs I prefer Arch Linux over Debian. If you have other exotic needs, you perhaps are more lucky with a distro that fits to that needs. The huge amount of Debian packages is caused by splitting upstream to packages for libs, headers, bins, not because Debian does provide most software. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi ttf-symbola | grep Description Description: Font for unicode symbols (part of Unicode Fonts for Ancient Scripts). I have got doubts that Fonts for Ancient Scripts are increasingly widely used. Assumed that font is the only exotic thingy you need, it shouldn't cause that much work to get it without a package provided by the official Debian repositories. AFAIK there's no distro that fits to all needs, that's why I'm using several distros, among others mainly Debian and Arch Linux. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395151325.9232.278.camel@archlinux
Re: Backup's to DVD
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:54:48 -0500 Mr Queue li...@mrqueue.com wrote: Anyone doing anything interesting to backup data to DVD's? https://packages.debian.org/sid/dkopp ^^ Looks interesting and overall it's a pretty simple task. Suppose I could even use tar and split but just curious what others may be doing currently. FWIW, I'm mostly concerned with cloning my current backups of family photos to different media for peace of mind. I already have a pair of backup servers in different physical locations but want to add some DVD's into the mix. Those are hard to rm. ;) Not sure what's happened to this list, used to be a great place. Ralf, Steve, Jonathan, Scott, and Gary: Thank you for your contributions. I'm now ignoring my own thread. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318090052.4eefb...@mrqueue.com
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 00:48 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: These characters do seem to be increasingly widely used. Agreed. I guess you're asking why is the font not in the Debian repository? Are their license issues? That would be my first though when considering why they haven't been packaged yet. Your guess seems to be correct. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi ttf-symbola | grep Licenses Licenses : custom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395151672.9232.279.camel@archlinux
Re: Backup's to DVD
On 19/03/14 00:46, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 21:50:18 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: On 18/03/14 20:54, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 11:34:29 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: On 18/03/14 11:02, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 08:52:14 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: The longevity of flash is still a big unknown. Well observered, Sir. The same might be said for CDs and DVDs. Why anyone should entrust their data to such volatile media is beyond our comprehension. We are an very old, established company who operate in the Dead Sea area of the Middle East. Our product has a proven record and is used by many discerning clients who require the data they have entrusted to us to be accessible at any time. We offer a 3000 year guarantee that the material we use is suitable for long term storagei. We have scribes who rarely mistake 1s for 0s or vice versa. Employees who do are weeded out by our Quality Control Section and transferred to our sister company, Pyramid Enterprises PLC. Security of your data is of paramount importance to us; there is no compromise in this area of our operations. Even shepherd boys and goats are actively dissuaded from entering within a 10 km radius of our operations. Our distinguised clients Nefertiti, Isaiah and Tutankhamun have many, many good things to say about our services. Unfortunately, they are offline at present so are unable to answer your queries. Forget the Cloud - choose the Cave. You know it makes sense. Yet another desperate attempt by a failing company to capitalize on this list's readership by pushing unproven technology. A passing fad - what next? Asterix trying to sell bolders as portable? Get with it - tablets are the only way to go. Always have been been, always will be. Yours without wax, Proto Cuneiform -- Clay - it's here to stay and it's goat-proof! It's always the same; some attitudes never change. Introduce the most exciting invention since that of the abacus (thank you Jobs of Memphis) and some Stone Age Old Worlder chips in with a plea to continue the depletion of one of the Earth's non-renewable resources. Ever tried transporting the Epic of Gilgamesh from Babylon to Thebes in tablet form? Let me tell you, it's horrendous. Papyrus is the favoured medium of smugglers and other ne'er-do-wells. We're an honest company catering to the needs of honest, upright and enterprising customers. All good, informed consumers know the TSA never found a tourist trying to smuggle a tablet onto a barge. Can't remember the number of donkeys and carts it took but the feed bill was astonomical. As for customs at the borders, they though we were importing buiding materials so the bribes mounted up. And don't have an accident; sticking the broken pieces back together is no fun, even after the pain in your toes has worn off. Papyrus: just a few sheets which can be rolled up and put in your pocket. Reading it while riding on the back of a camel is also a pleasant way of passing the time on a long journey. Someone who sold blank tablets once said 640 is enough for anyone. We envisage information as unlimited and we're expanding, with branches opened recently in Athens and Rome. Tomorrow the world! It 'sounds' very attractive... until the donkey eats your backups. Tablets - just do it! (no ink required) For a limited time only we'll throw in not one, but two free reeds with every order from debian user subscribers. We built our reputation on tablets (and our office). They're a solid investment in time proven technology. You can't build anything substantial with papyrus. There's only one thing it's good for and that's not writing on - but it does come on a roll. -- Clay - it's here to stay and it's goat-proof! Are these tablets the same ones which were used to build this tower at Babel? We all know what happened there. Siri. A beta version. It had everyone talking, but the legend lives on. You'll have to do better if you want to play with the big boys. And we all know what happened to the Tower of Papyrus. Our RD Department is also well ahead of you in devising a new product. Innovation means new markets; our objective is 5 in every home in the known world. Let's see you do *that* with clay (wet or sun-baked). Wake up and smell the grass. Your product is ideal for the privy, but your other claims, like the product are flimsy. P.S. You appear to have a fixation on donkeys and goats. Medical help is available to deal with the condition. That's rich coming from a company who fails to tell the customers the actual production technique - following reed eating goats around. Incredible! This is getting close to you will be hearing from our lawyers time. That's just the sort of blaggards I'd
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 19:28:52 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: One more thing I would like to point out is that, the above outputs contains some extra lines in the output of 'xrdb -query that are *NOT* in my version of .Xresources. Like *customization: -color Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault You're getting there. :) Where do you think the other lines come from? What is your .Xresources merged with? etc. It's not very helpful to edit. (If it wasn't clear, I intended you to try the two lines I gave you earlier in your existing .Xresources, replacing the ones you have). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/18032014141806.19485039d...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
(If it wasn't clear, I intended you to try the two lines I gave you earlier in your existing .Xresources, replacing the ones you have). Sorry, I had the impression that you wanted me to stick to only that colors. Ok I cleared my .Xresources and now it has only these to lines. xterm*foreground:#fd971f xterm*background:#82b414 Restarting the laptop and firing up an xterm sure changes the colors according to .Xresources. Here is the output for -query neo1691@Innovator:~$ xrdb -query *customization: -color Xft.hinting:-1 Xft.hintstyle: hintnone xterm*background: #82b414 xterm*foreground: #fd971f Xft.antialias: -1 Xft.rgba: none Xcursor.theme: Adwaita Xcursor.theme_core: true Xcursor.size: 0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9aghqvwxxxgef7dhared-+p9a1ponjw_vjxbusrbrmq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Backup's to DVD
On Wed 19 Mar 2014 at 01:16:58 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: That's just the sort of blaggards I'd expect a fly-by night purveyor of fickle products to associate with. This fly-by night would really like to do that now but in response to an urgent message from our representative in Edo I have to catch the next caravan there. The vast house building project we are involved in requires my immediate attention. On the journey I'll reflect on my conversation with the man with feet of clay and perhaps resume it when I return in five years time - if you are still in business. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318150805.gk26...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 20:20:49 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: (If it wasn't clear, I intended you to try the two lines I gave you earlier in your existing .Xresources, replacing the ones you have). Sorry, I had the impression that you wanted me to stick to only that colors. Ok I cleared my .Xresources and now it has only these to lines. It would have been sufficient to have just replaced the *foreground and *background lines. xterm*foreground:#fd971f xterm*background:#82b414 Restarting the laptop and firing up an xterm sure changes the colors according to .Xresources. There - it works. Is there anything you could do to your existing .Xresources to make the rest work? Or does it so already? Here is the output for -query neo1691@Innovator:~$ xrdb -query *customization: -color Xft.hinting:-1 Xft.hintstyle: hintnone xterm*background: #82b414 xterm*foreground: #fd971f Xft.antialias: -1 Xft.rgba: none Xcursor.theme: Adwaita Xcursor.theme_core: true Xcursor.size: 0 Now do 'xrdb .Xresources' or 'xrdb -load .Xresources' (they are the same command; please see (xrdb(1)). Notice any difference? Why should there be one? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/18032014150957.ae7e9d40a...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
There - it works. Is there anything you could do to your existing .Xresources to make the rest work? Or does it so already? Thanks a lot, I solved it. Just had to change all instances of *color# to xterm*color# As simple as that! What I liked more was instead of giving me direct solution you motivated me to find the solution myself. Cheers for that. Can I change my subject header and all [SOLVED] to it? Because last time I did it, the mail went as a new thread on the mailing list! Thanks again, really appreciated your time and effort! -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CA+Jf9AEgKoXbjrjWPWGnz6qMr8aZXJ+ZazVN1HKiK1Bbnxn=8...@mail.gmail.com
SOLVED: Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tuesday 18 March 2014 15:47:47 Anubhav Yadav wrote: Can I change my subject header and all [SOLVED] to it? Because last time I did it, the mail went as a new thread on the mailing list! No, it went as a new thread on Gmail. Gmail routinely breaks threading. It's a pain. :-( It's one of the reasons that I use Gmail as my address - but download to a proper email client. I have marked this as SOLVED for you. Unfortunately, Gmail will therefore start a newconversation. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201403181556.58253.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Backup's to DVD
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:08:05 + PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Wed 19 Mar 2014 at 01:16:58 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: That's just the sort of blaggards I'd expect a fly-by night purveyor of fickle products to associate with. This fly-by night would really like to do that now but in response to an urgent message from our representative in Edo I have to catch the next caravan there. The vast house building project we are involved in requires my immediate attention. On the journey I'll reflect on my conversation with the man with feet of clay and perhaps resume it when I return in five years time - if you are still in business. Can you guys please take the reminder of this enlightening discussion to d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org? Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318200903.dadb400928515eb39542e...@gmail.com
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 21:17:47 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: There - it works. Is there anything you could do to your existing .Xresources to make the rest work? Or does it so already? Thanks a lot, I solved it. Just had to change all instances of *color# to xterm*color# As simple as that! What I liked more was instead of giving me direct solution you motivated me to find the solution myself. Cheers for that. Just in case: the command xrdb -merge .Xresources is definitely run when X is called. The resources in .Xresources are merged with those in /etc/X11. If you issue the same command from a terminal nothing happens to alter the resources available because they have already been merged. xrdb .Xresources (xrdb -load .Xresources) wipes out the resources loaded from /etc/X11 and gives you only what is in .Xresources. Your initial understanding of this led you away from a solution to the actual problem. Not to worry; everyone does it and everybody learns. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318161341.gl26...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Backup's to DVD
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 20:09 +0400, Reco wrote: Can you guys please take the reminder of this enlightening discussion to d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org? Or better off-list ;), instead of using D-community-offtopic? Some of us are still learning, but we already distinguish, we send some mails to Debian user, others the OT list and other mails are off-_all_-lists, those are private mails. Don't get me wrong, this isn't an offence. I'm far away from being good in deciding what belongs to Debian user, to the OT list or what should be a PM. I make mistakes much too often myself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395159839.9232.320.camel@archlinux
LVM preseed install fails on physical server
I'm seeing the same issue per https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=740271. I've updated the bug with my comments. ┌──┤ [!!] Partition disks ├───┐ │ │ │ Volume group name already in use │ │ The volume group name used to automatically partition using LVM is │ │ already in use. Lowering the priority for configuration questions │ │ will allow you to specify an alternative name. │ │ │ │ Go BackContinue │ │ │ └─┘ Has anyone seen this before and/or know of a way to sort this? Cheers, Sandeep.
Re: .Xresources not loading on start
Just in case: the command xrdb -merge .Xresources is definitely run when X is called. The resources in .Xresources are merged with those in /etc/X11. If you issue the same command from a terminal nothing happens to alter the resources available because they have already been merged. xrdb .Xresources (xrdb -load .Xresources) wipes out the resources loaded from /etc/X11 and gives you only what is in .Xresources. Your initial understanding of this led you away from a solution to the actual problem. Not to worry; everyone does it and everybody learns. :) So you mean to say that the resources were already being merged but actually came into effect when I increased their priority or made them more specific by add the class xterm* before the settings! I tried to do this before, I remember very well, but I used Xterm instead of xterm. It was mentioned here. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90608/xterm-not-loading-color-schemes When that never worked I posted on the mailing list. So my question is what do you mean by Xterm, and then how is xterm different? I can guess it has something to do with the class of applications/ instance of applications! -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+jf9aen5gqhu4ysat4fg0upz01yxehgcft5y17p6kalou2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On 3/18/14, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: I use and highly recommend fontmatrix - a font manager/viewer/wizard. NICE tip and why I try to read EVERYTHING.. Just writing to additionally tip (for newer users) that it might take sudo fontmatrix to view the full interactive [GUI] if you decide to install it.. And of course, that's only going to work if you've been granted related privileges. :) Just yesterday encountered instance where a faved font is missing in video editing software. Font may not even be installed in current OS but this is going to make finding out a little more fun. :) Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with duct tape * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAO1P-kA+d_4BujHNd604sb2=Vi-xWmqzkL=+7A=0vj-eacl...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:02 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 06:06 -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: Is it really the case tht there's no pre-built package for this in Debian? These characters do seem to be increasingly widely used. For my exotic audio production needs I prefer Arch Linux over Debian. If you have other exotic needs, you perhaps are more lucky with a distro that fits to that needs. The huge amount of Debian packages is caused by splitting upstream to packages for libs, headers, bins, not because Debian does provide most software. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi ttf-symbola | grep Description Description : Font for unicode symbols (part of Unicode Fonts for Ancient Scripts). I have got doubts that Fonts for Ancient Scripts are increasingly widely used. Assumed that font is the only exotic thingy you need, it shouldn't cause that much work to get it without a package provided by the official Debian repositories. AFAIK there's no distro that fits to all needs, that's why I'm using several distros, among others mainly Debian and Arch Linux. I didnt think that this qualifies as an exotic need, i guess. I see this kind of thing on Twitter, in forums, in messages my kids send me from their phones. Thats why i said i thought they were widely used. In general Debian has worked well for me, and ive gotten good help from this list when ive been stuck. I wouldnt lightly abandon Debian just because some other distro might be better in some edge cases. Even if viewing emojis is an edge case, which i didnt think it was. Jen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395168301.44431.yahoomail...@web124504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:02 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 06:06 -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: Is it really the case tht there's no pre-built package for this in Debian? These characters do seem to be increasingly widely used. For my exotic audio production needs I prefer Arch Linux over Debian. If you have other exotic needs, you perhaps are more lucky with a distro that fits to that needs. The huge amount of Debian packages is caused by splitting upstream to packages for libs, headers, bins, not because Debian does provide most software. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi ttf-symbola | grep Description Description : Font for unicode symbols (part of Unicode Fonts for Ancient Scripts). I have got doubts that Fonts for Ancient Scripts are increasingly widely used. Assumed that font is the only exotic thingy you need, it shouldn't cause that much work to get it without a package provided by the official Debian repositories. AFAIK there's no distro that fits to all needs, that's why I'm using several distros, among others mainly Debian and Arch Linux. I didnt think that this qualifies as an exotic need, i guess. I see this kind of thing on Twitter, in forums, in messages my kids send me from their phones. Thats why i said i thought they were widely used. In general Debian has worked well for me, and ive gotten good help from this list when ive been stuck. I wouldnt lightly abandon Debian just because some other distro might be better in some edge cases. Even if viewing emojis is an edge case, which i didnt think it was. Jen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395168300.44617.yahoomail...@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:02 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 06:06 -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: Is it really the case tht there's no pre-built package for this in Debian? These characters do seem to be increasingly widely used. For my exotic audio production needs I prefer Arch Linux over Debian. If you have other exotic needs, you perhaps are more lucky with a distro that fits to that needs. The huge amount of Debian packages is caused by splitting upstream to packages for libs, headers, bins, not because Debian does provide most software. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi ttf-symbola | grep Description Description : Font for unicode symbols (part of Unicode Fonts for Ancient Scripts). I have got doubts that Fonts for Ancient Scripts are increasingly widely used. Assumed that font is the only exotic thingy you need, it shouldn't cause that much work to get it without a package provided by the official Debian repositories. AFAIK there's no distro that fits to all needs, that's why I'm using several distros, among others mainly Debian and Arch Linux. I didnt think that this qualifies as an exotic need, i guess. I see this kind of thing on Twitter, in forums, in messages my kids send me from their phones. Thats why i said i thought they were widely used. In general Debian has worked well for me, and ive gotten good help from this list when ive been stuck. I wouldnt lightly abandon Debian just because some other distro might be better in some edge cases. Even if viewing emojis is an edge case, which i didnt think it was. Jen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395168299.63180.yahoomail...@web124501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Great Debian experience
Hi all, Here's why I like Debian Stable... My daughter's computer broke, so last night I took a three year, 3GB RAM, old wreck of a laptop and, using the Debian 7.4 network installer, installed Wheezy. I chose expert install, told it to install the nonfree repositories and auto-partition to a single partition plus swap. I also unchecked the Debian Desktop selection. Installation took about 20 minutes. Then I did the following: apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies apt-get install synaptic apt-get install iceweasel I typed startx, had a perfectly functional desktop, and when I ran Iceweasel, ***YOUTUBE VIDEOS PLAYED PERFECTLY*** It took me about 20 minutes to figure out how to get network-manager working with my wifi (I had to reboot). Then I looked up instructions on how to install Skype, and after a little experimentation because the instructions weren't perfect, Skype was installed. I've been a happy Ubuntu/Xubuntu user for six years now, but I've gotta tell you, if I'd installed a Ubuntu variant, *something* wouldn't have worked. If I'd installed Arch or Gentoo, I'd probably still be installing. Armed with a glitchless version of Xfce, a rock solid version of Iceweasel, and works-every-time Wheezy, this is the perfect laptop. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318143146.2453a5e2@mydesk
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 11:45 -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: I see this kind of thing [...] in messages my kids send me from their phones. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395170147.9232.364.camel@archlinux
Re: Fonts providing emojis?
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 20:15 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 11:45 -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: I see this kind of thing [...] in messages my kids send me from their phones. :) PS: What's the bigger issue, a missing font or teenage hormones ;)? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1395170340.9232.367.camel@archlinux
Gnome (wheezy) questions: Language setting, speech synthesis, visually impaired user
Hi, I'm trying to configure a laptop (Debian wheezy) for a visually impaired user, who speaks Spanish. I'm not sure, which desktop to install for her, so I tried the default (Gnome). It's been some time, that I tried Gnome, so I'm a little bit stupid with it: 1. How to configure the language (Spanish)? I tried it with System Settings - Region and Language - + - Select a language - Spanish - Select. Now Spanish appears twice in the list. I logged out and in again, as suggested by the settings dialog, but only the clock in the middle of the upper black bar seems to be in Spanish (mar = martes/Tuesday), everything else is still in English. I tried multiple times, but so far no success. es_AR.UTF-8 is a valid locale on the system, btw. Do I need to install a language pack for Gnome? 2. How to configure speech synthesis for login and logout? It seems, that neither the login (lightdm) nor the logout dialog (Gnome shell?) talks to me. When I'm logged in, Orca talks to me (in English). Would this work with gdm and/or do I need to configure anything for this? Thanks in advance! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318204114.horde.px0hj6yp7ouy015bhbms...@webmail.in-berlin.de
Re: Backup's to DVD
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 20:09:03 +0400, Reco wrote: Can you guys please take the reminder of this enlightening discussion to d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org? My Dear Reco and fellow subscribers to this esteemed List, My caravan departure has been delayed. There is a security issue and the camels need bricking (details available on request, but you really don't want to know). I realise (and I'm sure Myceneaen Magic does too) that we have let our commercial interests override our responsibility to help and advise users of the Debian OS. The thread drifted after I posted a serious comment about the longevity of stored data on CD, DVD and USB media. I realise now it could have been couched in better terms and promise to up the standard of my responses and make amends in future. We let our emotions dictate our responses. In spite of our difference I think his product (lasting a proven 5000 years) and mine (good for at least 3000 years) are both top-of-the-range when you want the integrity of your data to be inviolate for many generations. So Reco, my friend, how do CD, DVD and USB media compare? We would welcome your input on this; will my family photographs or the deeds to my house be viewable on these modern devices in a thousand years time? (You may omit any discussion about the quantum energy changes occuring spontaneously in magnetic and optical materials. Mentioning Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle would also allow Myceneaen Magic to start on about volcanic action and clay stability, so it is better you keep quiet about it). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140318210317.gm26...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Pinning by architecture?
Hi, Is there any support for pinning by architecture? I've only found bug report #687255 [1]. Thanks, Malte [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687255 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lgaekc$4li$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]
Ghislain Vaillant ghisvail at gmail.com writes: Another issue with my Dell Latitude E6440 with AMD hybrid graphics is suspend not working. Suspend leads to a black screen, the system does not go to sleep and seems to be still running (power LED and fan are still on). I already tried different kernel: 3.5 (Ubuntu LTS), 3.12 and 3.13 (Debian sid/experimental) without success. I was wondering if you guys experienced similar behaviour with suspend and if there are workarounds or ways to debug that. Thanks, Ghislain Hi, any progress regarding this problem? Is there any solution for Ubuntu 12.04.2 as officially supported ubuntu release? Thanks in advance, Michal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/loom.20140318t224942-...@post.gmane.org
Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]
Am 31.01.2014 18:29, schrieb Steven Rosenberg: I had success with suspend by adding resume=/path/to/swap to my GRUB bootline. To find your /path/to/swap, use: $ swapon -s And use that to create your own /resume=/dev/sda2 type of line (remember, yours will vary depending on your installation. Adding it to GRUB is another matter, but if you pause during boot and add this resume= line, then boot and then can successfully suspend and resume, you can then figure out how to permanently modify GRUB 2 to make the resume line persist in your GRUB. suspend != hibernate You only need a swap partition for hibernate. You don't need it it for suspend (to RAM). -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Backup's to DVD
Hi. On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 21:03:17 + PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: I realise (and I'm sure Myceneaen Magic does too) that we have let our commercial interests override our responsibility to help and advise users of the Debian OS. The thread drifted after I posted a serious comment about the longevity of stored data on CD, DVD and USB media. I realise now it could have been couched in better terms and promise to up the standard of my responses and make amends in future. Ok, so, we're back on the track. Good. So Reco, my friend, how do CD, DVD and USB media compare? We would welcome your input on this; will my family photographs or the deeds to my house be viewable on these modern devices in a thousand years time? CD - you can read the thing after it gathered dust for 10 years. Personal experience for both CD-R and CD-RW. An amount of information can be stored is unreasonable by today's standards. DVD - you can read the thing after it gathered dust for 5 years. Personal experience for both DVD-R and DVD-RW. An amount of information can be stored is unreasonable by today's standards. BD - no personal experience with those. USB drives - ok, but will require periodic poweron/poweroff cycle. MTBF is less as of the modern HDD, which is not much again. So, for a long-term storage one is basically left with the same thing as 20 years ago, i.e. - tapes. LTO5s go for $10 each on eBay, providing you with 1.5Tb per tape. A cost of LTO drive is painful somewhat ($1500 ), require an additional SAS or SCSI controller, but this is one-time investment basically. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140319021800.b83bb2d1b7809ef574b24...@gmail.com
Re: Great Debian experience
Hello, El 18/03/2014 19:54, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com escribió: Hi all, Here's why I like Debian Stable... Then I looked up instructions on how to install Skype, and after a little experimentation because the instructions weren't perfect, Skype was installed. If you followed wiki.debian.org skype instruction and they are not nice enough, you can modify the wiki to make it better. Regards,
Re: Backup's to DVD
On 19/03/14 08:03, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote: On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 20:09:03 +0400, Reco wrote: Can you guys please take the reminder of this enlightening discussion to d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org? My Dear Reco and fellow subscribers to this esteemed List, Especially the esteemed subscribers to this list My caravan departure has been delayed. There is a security issue and the camels need bricking (details available on request, but you really don't want to know). I realise (and I'm sure Myceneaen Magic does too) that we have let our commercial interests override our responsibility to help and advise users of the Debian OS. The thread drifted after I posted a serious comment about the longevity of stored data on CD, DVD and USB media. I realise now it could have been couched in better terms and promise to up the standard of my responses and make amends in future. We let our emotions dictate our responses. I suspect some may have taken the humour at face value, when it was simply a humorous highlighting of some of the overlooked (evaluation) issues involved in deciding a suitable backup strategy. OK - it 'may' have been mostly humour for the sake of humour (I can't speak for PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGY, at least until the lawyers have finalised our takeover of their business). In spite of our difference I think his product (lasting a proven 5000 years) and mine (good for at least 3000 years) are both top-of-the-range when you want the integrity of your data to be inviolate for many generations. So Reco, my friend, how do CD, DVD and USB media compare? We would welcome your input on this; will my family photographs or the deeds to my house be viewable on these modern devices in a thousand years time? One consideration not included in many backup evaluation matrices is a complete evaluation of the risk. Ralf has noted that solely relying on on-site backups is, um, less than optimal (oxymoronic?). On-line backups have major failings too:- ;you're relying on an entity you've never met, often in another country subject to different laws, with unknown[*1] media management and backup strategies. ;when you *need* that on-line backup restored where did you put the contacts, account details, and recovery tools? [*1] My experience is that claims and assumed expectations don't always match reality. Any backup strategy should be based on how much will it hurt if I lose it, and include careful consideration about *how* you will restore it when you need it[*2]. As PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGY notes - recovering the data is of little use if the knowledge, hardware, and software needed to make information out of the data when that backup becomes a worthwhile investment. i.e. if you backup WORM drives you'll need to separately backup the software, hardware, and necessary manuals. CDs, and even Blueray and magnetic/Flash drives won't be supported forever. As a general rule - a single backup strategy is not as useful as multiple separate ones. Risk and how much will it hurt should be the determining factors in deciding how, and how often, is appropriate. Now that we've acquired PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGY (at a knock-down price plus a small consideration to the camel train company) I'd suggest if the information is heirloom value, consider printing it on acid-free paper and placing it in a bank vault. [*2]too often we get calls from customers who neglected to retain a Linear B fluent staff member. (You may omit any discussion about the quantum energy changes occuring spontaneously in magnetic and optical materials. Mentioning Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle would also allow Myceneaen Magic to start on about volcanic action and clay stability, so it is better you keep quiet about it). :) And let's say nothing of acidic papyrus. Yours without wax, Proto Cuneiform -- The enemy of ignorance and faith is knowledge and humour -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5328e11b.10...@gmail.com
Long-term support for Squeeze
This may be of interest to those, like me, still have Debian Squeeze deployed:- http://rgeissert.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/debian-squeeze-lts.html NOTE: it's the blog of a Debian developer, not click-bait. But I haven't disabled Ad-Block so don't know if it's ad-free. Partial quotes:- As announced in the Bits from the Security Team email a couple of weeks ago, it is possible that Debian squeeze will have Long Term Support, primarily in the way of security updates. snipped Perhaps it wasn't stressed enough in the email, but those who are interested in benefiting from (and therefore contributing to) long term support, please do contact the security team NOW. After all, the clock keeps ticking and Debian squeeze is going to reach its End of Life in less than two months otherwise. Kind Regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5328e7f1.8010...@gmail.com
Re: Backup's to DVD
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:49:13AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: On 16/03/14 05:54 PM, Mr Queue wrote: Anyone doing anything interesting to backup data to DVD's? https://packages.debian.org/sid/dkopp ^^ Looks interesting and overall it's a pretty simple task. Suppose I could even use tar and split but just curious what others may be doing currently. FWIW, I'm mostly concerned with cloning my current backups of family photos to different media for peace of mind. I already have a pair of backup servers in different physical locations but want to add some DVD's into the mix. Those are hard to rm. ;) I've been using BD-RE for years to make backups and BD-R for archives. It works reasonably well providing that you're not backing up more than 25G. BD-REs do develop problems over time so you need to replace them when they wear out. You can create tar files with a 25G limit if you want, using the --tape-length parameter. See http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_node/Multi_002dVolume-Archives.html -Rob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Backup's to DVD
On Wed 19 Mar 2014 at 11:13:15 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote: OK - it 'may' have been mostly humour for the sake of humour (I can't speak for PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGY, at least until the lawyers have finalised our takeover of their business). You think we are going to be the pushover Tauris was recently? Dream on. Any backup strategy should be based on how much will it hurt if I lose it, and include careful consideration about *how* you will restore it when you need it[*2]. As PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGY notes - recovering the data is of little use if the knowledge, hardware, and software needed to make information out of the data when that backup becomes a worthwhile investment. i.e. if you backup WORM drives you'll need to separately backup the software, hardware, and necessary manuals. CDs, and even Blueray and magnetic/Flash drives won't be supported forever. On a serious note (not that everything in this subthread hasn't had serious aspects): Thirty years ago I backed up a doctoral thesis to some 5.25 inch floppies. The thesis was written on a BBC B computer. Today I possess neither the machine nor a recollection of the primitive word precessor used to write the thesis. Assuming the media (which have remained undisturbed in a drawer all that time) are intact I still have the problem of sourcing the machinery required to read them. How I wish I had been aware of Latex at the time; it might have made the recovery process easier. Mr Queue's concern is photos. I own up to still using a 35mm film camera. The difficulty in obtaining film and getting a roll developed is outweighed in my mind by having the positives and negatives. As a general rule - a single backup strategy is not as useful as multiple separate ones. Risk and how much will it hurt should be the determining factors in deciding how, and how often, is appropriate. As I've come to realise, sound advice for anything imortant. Even then you can only work within the technology of the time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140319020253.gn26...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
