Fwd: Trouble importing gpg keys in stretch

[Peter Miller]

Hi,

I am using the http://debian.mirror.digitalpacific.com.au/debian/ mirror
for stretch. The url http://debian.mirror.digitalpa
cific.com.au/debian/dists/stretch/ contains the Release.gpg

file. When I download and try to import it I receive an error:

The selected file may not be a GPG key file or it might be corrupt.

The file looks valid in gedit. I also tried the file from the "testing"
directory on the mirror.

I can't find the key file for these keys anywhere else, and trying to use
anything like (with or without the "0x"):

apt-key adv --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys 0x8B48AD6246925553

doesn't work (gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.).

Is there something I am doing wrong or is this a bug?

Thanks,
Pete Miller

Re: Segmentation fault in top -b1 -hc

[Bob McGowan]

On 05/08/2017 03:28 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 11:46:13AM +0200, Peter Ludikovsky wrote:
> > On 05/08/2017 11:19 AM, Valentin Bajrami wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> There is a segmentation fault when top is used as follow
> >>
> >> top -b1 -hc
> >>
> >> I think the args are not parsed properly.  The version used is:
> >> procps-ng version 3.3.10
> >>
> >> --
> >> Met vriendelijke groet,
> >>
> >> Valentin Bajrami
>
> > There's no package procps-ng [0].
>
> Indeed. There seems to be one props-ng floating around, but it doesn't
> come from Debian's official repos.
>
> To find out where that package comes from, try
>
>   apt-cache policy procps-ng-3.3.10
>
> (or however that package is really called, you can find that out
> with "aptitude search procps-ng" or something similar).
>
> HTH
> -- tomás
>
I just tried the OP's command line and got the following error:

$ top -b1 -hc
  procps-ng 3.3.12
Usage:
  top -hv | -bcHiOSs -d secs -n max -u|U user -p pid(s) -o field -w [cols]

I can say with assurance that I have not manually installed anything
related to procps or top.

And the policy for procps says:

$ apt-cache policy procps  
procps:
  Installed: 2:3.3.12-3
  Candidate: 2:3.3.12-3
  Version table:

Those version numbers match the numeric part of the 'top' output.

Could it be that Debian has just dropped the '-ng' from the name?

Bob

Re: Question about Increasing the size of the Primary Partition

[Felix Miata]

Martin McCormick composed on 2017-05-08 19:50 (UTC-0500):

>   After using dd to copy a smaller disk image on to a
> larger drive, I get the general idea that one leaves the starting
> sector alone, deletes the remaining partition which is swap and
> then changes the end point of the Primary partition to the
> maximum number of sectors minus the swap space so that swap gets
> moved and recreated as the last N sectors like it was on the
> small drive.

>   This should leave the primary partition properly
> formatted with all it's files still intact but with a swath of
> unformatted space which ends at the start of the swap sectors.

>   What is the safe way to format that so that the primary
> partition's files don't get clobbered and sda1 just gets larger?
> In other words, the new formatting from mkfs shouldn't reset all
> the used tracks and sectors which are what was the smaller drive.

If the original is EXT#, then resize2fs following forced fsck is all it takes,
no mkfs.

Using dd might have been a bad idea, depending on the age of the old disk. If
the old disk was partitioned long enough ago, it unlikely conformed to the
technique preferred for disks with 4k internal sectors. If so, doing as you did
almost certainly will cause a performance penalty with the new.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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Re: Question about Increasing the size of the Primary Partition

[Michael Milliman]

I'm looking at some possibilities now, but need a little more info on your
exact situation. Is the current image file large enough to accommodate the
new partitioning, or does its size have to be increased as well?

73's,
de WB5VQX -- The Very Quick X-ray

On May 8, 2017 7:50 PM, "Martin McCormick"  wrote:

After using dd to copy a smaller disk image on to a
larger drive, I get the general idea that one leaves the starting
sector alone, deletes the remaining partition which is swap and
then changes the end point of the Primary partition to the
maximum number of sectors minus the swap space so that swap gets
moved and recreated as the last N sectors like it was on the
small drive.

This should leave the primary partition properly
formatted with all it's files still intact but with a swath of
unformatted space which ends at the start of the swap sectors.

What is the safe way to format that so that the primary
partition's files don't get clobbered and sda1 just gets larger?
In other words, the new formatting from mkfs shouldn't reset all
the used tracks and sectors which are what was the smaller drive.

I did all this several years ago and have forgotten the
details.

Thank you very much.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ

Question about Increasing the size of the Primary Partition

[Martin McCormick]

After using dd to copy a smaller disk image on to a
larger drive, I get the general idea that one leaves the starting
sector alone, deletes the remaining partition which is swap and
then changes the end point of the Primary partition to the
maximum number of sectors minus the swap space so that swap gets
moved and recreated as the last N sectors like it was on the
small drive.

This should leave the primary partition properly
formatted with all it's files still intact but with a swath of
unformatted space which ends at the start of the swap sectors.

What is the safe way to format that so that the primary
partition's files don't get clobbered and sda1 just gets larger?
In other words, the new formatting from mkfs shouldn't reset all
the used tracks and sectors which are what was the smaller drive.

I did all this several years ago and have forgotten the
details.

Thank you very much.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ

UEFI + Raid

[Sam Smith]

Hi,

I have installed Debian Stretch on my first system using UEFI. I used a 
two disk Raid 1 + LVM configured during install time to mount / on 
(among other things).


But now I need to figure out how to add redundancy to the software raid 
1 since I believe boot entries are only added to one disk during 
installation time?  According to 
https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Missing_features there doesn't seem to be 
much options. Is my only option to copy the FAT32 EFI system partition 
from the first disk to the second disk and then use efibootmgr to add it 
(the second disk) as a boot entry? And will any subsequent kernel or 
grub updates affect the system partition and thus require another 
copy/sync to the second disk?


Regards,

Re: Live Fille System Backup

[Sergei G]

And if you think application consistency is nothing to worry about know
that Git on Ext4 has failed to recover.

My current conclusion:

1. If I want application consistency I have to take down any application
that has an internal database or backup those applications prior to FS
backup.
2. rsnapshot is a good candidate.  It matches the
way I want to use backup and it is abased on rsync that I am familiar with

I'd like to consider using CCFS, but I have no instructions for that.

Linux FS snapshot seems to be of a temporary nature, because it will grow
over time (it is a diff between snapshot time and current time).  LVM is a
learning curve I have managed to escape so far:

The generic way to make snapshots under Linux is at the level of the
> storage volume. Your filesystem must be on an LVM logical volume
> , which is
> Linux's own partition system, as opposed to directly on a platform-native
> disk partition.


So, my existing installations probably avoids LVM and snapshot is not an
option.



On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Sergei G  wrote:

> We have to remember that things are actually worse at the application
> consistency level.  An application may think that it has committed its
> write, but the file system has not written all the bytes to the disk yet.
>
> File system crash consistency is a sibling of the backup topic.  Here is
> relevant article I run into a some time ago https://blog.acolyer.org/2017/
> 03/15/application-crash-consistency-and-performance-with-ccfs/
>
> According to link above Ext4 FS suffers from these inconsistencies.
>
> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 7:56 AM,  wrote:
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On Sun, May 07, 2017 at 08:42:36AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Sunday, May 07, 2017 05:47:20 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > > Otherwise, "on line" backup is simply not an option.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > I guess the way that comes to mind, maybe somewhat implied by what
>> you've
>> > written (or at least inferred by me ;-) would be to take down one or
>> more of
>> > the servers at a time, make static backups of those, then restore those
>> to
>> > service and repeat until all have been backed up, very likely repeating
>> that
>> > continuously.
>>
>> "Taking down" as in "stopping all relevant applications" (shutting down
>> the whole thing would be a superset of that, of course ;)
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > Oh, ok, I guess (well, I know RAID isn't really for backup, it's for
>> uptime as
>> > is often stated on this and other lists), but something like RAID where
>> > relevant data is written to more than one disk and / or storage "farm",
>> one
>> > being the "in service" device (to serve data to the app in "real time")
>> and
>> > one or more just recording data as backup.
>>
>> This is a variant on the snapshot pattern. You take a snapshot of the
>> file system and back up that. You are guaranteed that the *file system*
>> backup is consistent (well, modulo bugs and glitches), but since the
>> applications don't have a clue what's going on, application state
>> might still be inconsistent, unless they go out of their way to keep
>> a consistent state on-disk all of the time (in the above scenario
>> of shutdown, we assumed that the application leaves a consistent
>> state after being shut down, which is a reasonable assumption, I'd
>> say).
>>
>> That said, and as you can see in the PostgreSQL example, with a little
>> help of your application, the snapshot thing works (in the case of
>> PostgreSQL things are much more relaxed and you can usually go with
>> plain rsync, for example, without resorting to snapshot).
>>
>> All in all I'm pretty happy with a plain, straight rsync-style backup
>> for my workstation. The probability of a busted backup is so low that
>> I fear more for my backup medium going sour.
>>
>> On a high-churn machine with very valuable data things might look
>> differently, though...
>>
>> regards
>> - -- tomás
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Re: Live Fille System Backup

[Sergei G]

We have to remember that things are actually worse at the application
consistency level.  An application may think that it has committed its
write, but the file system has not written all the bytes to the disk yet.

File system crash consistency is a sibling of the backup topic.  Here is
relevant article I run into a some time ago
https://blog.acolyer.org/2017/03/15/application-crash-consistency-and-performance-with-ccfs/

According to link above Ext4 FS suffers from these inconsistencies.

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 7:56 AM,  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On Sun, May 07, 2017 at 08:42:36AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 07, 2017 05:47:20 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> > > Otherwise, "on line" backup is simply not an option.
>
> [...]
>
> > I guess the way that comes to mind, maybe somewhat implied by what you've
> > written (or at least inferred by me ;-) would be to take down one or
> more of
> > the servers at a time, make static backups of those, then restore those
> to
> > service and repeat until all have been backed up, very likely repeating
> that
> > continuously.
>
> "Taking down" as in "stopping all relevant applications" (shutting down
> the whole thing would be a superset of that, of course ;)
>
> [...]
>
> > Oh, ok, I guess (well, I know RAID isn't really for backup, it's for
> uptime as
> > is often stated on this and other lists), but something like RAID where
> > relevant data is written to more than one disk and / or storage "farm",
> one
> > being the "in service" device (to serve data to the app in "real time")
> and
> > one or more just recording data as backup.
>
> This is a variant on the snapshot pattern. You take a snapshot of the
> file system and back up that. You are guaranteed that the *file system*
> backup is consistent (well, modulo bugs and glitches), but since the
> applications don't have a clue what's going on, application state
> might still be inconsistent, unless they go out of their way to keep
> a consistent state on-disk all of the time (in the above scenario
> of shutdown, we assumed that the application leaves a consistent
> state after being shut down, which is a reasonable assumption, I'd
> say).
>
> That said, and as you can see in the PostgreSQL example, with a little
> help of your application, the snapshot thing works (in the case of
> PostgreSQL things are much more relaxed and you can usually go with
> plain rsync, for example, without resorting to snapshot).
>
> All in all I'm pretty happy with a plain, straight rsync-style backup
> for my workstation. The probability of a busted backup is so low that
> I fear more for my backup medium going sour.
>
> On a high-churn machine with very valuable data things might look
> differently, though...
>
> regards
> - -- tomás
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Re: Upgrade from Debian 8.6 to 8.8

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Mon, 2017-05-08 at 23:07 +0200, Francesco wrote:
> 8 th May 2017
> 
> Good evening, i wish know how to upgrade to Debian 8.8.

In exactly the same way as you'd install security updates - apt-get
update, then apt-get upgrade.

debian-release is not a support list. Please use the debian-user list
(CCed), or one of the other support channels listed at
http://www.debian.org/support , for any further discussion / queries.

Regards,

Adam

Re: off topic - ransomware to get password email id

[Daniel Lenharo de Souza]

On 05/08/2017 05:19 PM, Renan Arantes wrote:
> boa tarde, alguem já passou por esse problema ?
> 
Uma boa prática é descrever o problema para que as pessoas possam saber
qual é.

[]'s

-- 
Daniel Lenharo de Souza
www.lenharo.eti.br
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 9629 FB0E 132D DB0A A5B1



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Re: [OFF TOPIC] Certificado SSL

[Henrique Fagundes]

Oi amigo,

Obrigado por responder.

No momento, já estou usando o let´s encrypt.

Abraços!

Atenciosamente,

Henrique Fagundes
henri...@linuxadmin.com.br
Skype: magnata-br-rj
Linux User: 475399

http://www.aprendendolinux.com/
http://www.facebook.com/AprendendoLinux
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http://twitter.com/AprendendoLinux/
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Em 08/05/2017 16:48, Claudio Junior escreveu:

Ola Luiz

recentemente eu adquiri um certificado wildcard
da https://www.globalsign.com.br/certificados-ssl/wildcard
foi o melhor custo / beneficio.

Mas levando em consideração o custo, recomendo fortemnte o let´s
encrypt, Não vale revisar os teus servidores para suportar estes
certificados??

Att.



--
Claudio da Silva Junior
csjun...@gmail.com 

Em 22 de março de 2017 21:47, Luiz Henrique De Muzio
> escreveu:

Olá, na empresa em que trabalho utilizo certificado wildcard da
Comodo, http://www.comodobr.com/  , você
pode gerar um válido por 30 dias para teste.

[]'s

2017-03-14 10:58 GMT-03:00 Henrique Fagundes
>:

Colegas,

Bom dia!

Preciso de um certificado SLL Wildcard (curinga) que seja multi
domínios. Ex:

*.dominio1.com.br 
*.dominio2.com.br 
*.dominio3.com.br 
*.dominio4.com.br 
*.dominio5.com.br 

Alguém pode me recomendar algum com um bom custo-benefício?
Eu estava usando o da StartSSL.com, mas eles estão com problemas
de confiança com a Google e a Mozilla, sendo assim, o Chrome e o
Firefox não estão reconhecendo como confiável.

Desde já muito obrigado e desculpem pelo OFF TOPIC.

Atenciosamente,

Henrique Fagundes
henri...@linuxadmin.com.br 
Skype: magnata-br-rj
Linux User: 475399

http://www.aprendendolinux.com/ 
http://www.facebook.com/PortalAprendendoLinux

http://youtube.com/aprendendolinux/

http://twitter.com/aprendendolinux/

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off topic - ransomware to get password email id

[Renan Arantes]

boa tarde, alguem já passou por esse problema ?

Re: Carte WiFi PCI Belkin F5D7000 : RÉSOLU (mais 2 icônes)

[andre_debian]

On Saturday 06 May 2017 17:50:50 JF Straeten wrote:
> On Sat, May 06, 2017 at 05:23:11PM +0200, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
> > J'ai également ces 3 processus :
> > # ps ax|grep -i wicd
> > 1080 ? S 0:35 /usr/bin/python -O /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py
> > 1123 ? S 0:14 /usr/bin/python -O /usr/share/wicd/daemon/monitor.py
> > 1416 ? Sl  0:08 /usr/bin/python -O /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py
> > Quel serait l'intrus qui ne devrait pas créer un processus parmi ces
> > trois ?

> Apparemment, c'est normal. Je craignais un second wicd-client.py, mais
> non.
> Quoique, le tien n'a pas le switch "--tray". Mais je ne sais pas si
> c'est significatif de quelque chose ?
> Pas mieux pour l'instant :-/

Alors sans doute est-ce lié au bureau tde-trinity ?

J'ai désinstallé Wicd et j'utilise uniquement les lignes
de connexions wlan0 dans "/etc/network/interfaces".

Ça prend du temps au boot, mais je suis bien relié à la WiFi.

André

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Certificado SSL

[Claudio Junior]

Ola Luiz

recentemente eu adquiri um certificado wildcard da
https://www.globalsign.com.br/certificados-ssl/wildcard
foi o melhor custo / beneficio.

Mas levando em consideração o custo, recomendo fortemnte o let´s encrypt,
Não vale revisar os teus servidores para suportar estes certificados??

Att.



--
Claudio da Silva Junior
csjun...@gmail.com

Em 22 de março de 2017 21:47, Luiz Henrique De Muzio 
escreveu:

> Olá, na empresa em que trabalho utilizo certificado wildcard da Comodo,
> http://www.comodobr.com/ , você pode gerar um válido por 30 dias para
> teste.
>
> []'s
>
> 2017-03-14 10:58 GMT-03:00 Henrique Fagundes :
>
>> Colegas,
>>
>> Bom dia!
>>
>> Preciso de um certificado SLL Wildcard (curinga) que seja multi domínios.
>> Ex:
>>
>> *.dominio1.com.br
>> *.dominio2.com.br
>> *.dominio3.com.br
>> *.dominio4.com.br
>> *.dominio5.com.br
>>
>> Alguém pode me recomendar algum com um bom custo-benefício?
>> Eu estava usando o da StartSSL.com, mas eles estão com problemas de
>> confiança com a Google e a Mozilla, sendo assim, o Chrome e o Firefox não
>> estão reconhecendo como confiável.
>>
>> Desde já muito obrigado e desculpem pelo OFF TOPIC.
>>
>> Atenciosamente,
>>
>> Henrique Fagundes
>> henri...@linuxadmin.com.br
>> Skype: magnata-br-rj
>> Linux User: 475399
>>
>> http://www.aprendendolinux.com/
>> http://www.facebook.com/PortalAprendendoLinux
>> http://youtube.com/aprendendolinux/
>> http://twitter.com/aprendendolinux/
>> __
>> Participe do Grupo Aprendendo Linux
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>>
>> Ou envie um e-mail para:
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>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Luiz Henrique.
>

Re: Which driver for Nvidia card on jessie

[Sven Joachim]

On 2017-05-08 10:47 +0200, Urs Thuermann wrote:

> After a hardware change my workstation with X11/XFCE has a new Nvidia
> graphics card and the nouveau driver doesn't seem to work with new
> card.  Before the hardware change I used xserver-xorg-video-nouveau.
>
> The new Nvidia card is listed by lspci as
>
> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1430 (rev a1) 
> (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

Apparently this is a Quadro M2000, a Maxwell[1] card.  Is that correct?

> I haven't found much info on which driver to use with this card.  Is
> the nouveau driver able to work with it?

Depends on your distribution.  On stretch, the free drivers should work
(modulo bugs), although you'd be using the modesetting 2D driver rather
than xserver-xorg-video-nouveau.  The xserver-xorg-video-nouveau version
in experimental supports more recent cards.  In any case, be sure to
install firmware-misc-nonfree as well, it is required for acceleration
support.

In Jessie, you would need to install several packages from
jessie-backports: a 4.9 kernel for basic support, libgl1-mesa-dri and
firmware-misc-nonfree if you want acceleration.

> Or do I have to use the Nvidia binary only driver?

If you decide to use that driver, on Jessie you need the jessie-backports
version as well.

Cheers,
   Sven
   

1. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_%28microarchitecture%29#Second_generation_Maxwell_.28GM20x.29

Re: Année des fichiers

[andre_debian]

On Monday 08 May 2017 20:47:14 yamo' wrote:
> andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit le 08/05/2017 à 15:00 :
> > Je constate que bien des fichiers et répertoires n'affichent 
> > pas l'année de leur création ou de leur modification (ls -l).
> > Comment le faire avec la commande ls ?

> Il faut utiliser l'option --full-time cf man ls.

ls  --full-time

Trop super, merci !

André

Re: Digikam shared library error

[Sven Joachim]

On 2017-05-08 20:48 +0200, B.M. wrote:

> I've just upgraded two installations from jessie to stretch. Both have 
> digikam 
> installed. First installation runs digikam without any problem. But on the 
> second one I've a shared library error:
>
> Digikam: error while loading shared libraries: libgphoto2_port.so.10: cannot 
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> Interestingly, on both systems synaptic says that digikam-private-libs 
> depends 
> on libgphoto-port12 (>=2.5.10) which is installed on both and no libgphoto-
> port10 is installed on neither the machine with the running nor the one with 
> the not-running digikam. How's that possible?

The most common source of this problem type is that some locally
installed library shadows the one from a Debian package.

> I already tried checks, reinstalls of digikam and its dependencies, cruft and 
> so on but I don't find out, what the root of the problem really is. Any hints 
> on how to solve that are welcome...

I would start with "ldd /usr/bin/digikam".

Cheers,
   Sven

Re: Servidor NFS en Raspbian

[Josu Lazkano]

Hola,

Ya tengo un pequeño truco para que funcione. Cada vez que arranca el
raspberry reinicio el servicio NFS y ya funciona:

# /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[ ok ] Restarting nfs-kernel-server (via systemctl): nfs-kernel-server.service.

Antes de reiniciar el servicio tengo esto:

# ps -e | grep nfs
   22 ?00:00:00 nfsiod

Despues de reiniciar esto:

# ps -e | grep nfs
   22 ?00:00:00 nfsiod
  855 ?00:00:00 nfsd4_callbacks
  858 ?00:00:00 nfsd
  859 ?00:00:00 nfsd
  860 ?00:00:00 nfsd
  861 ?00:00:00 nfsd
  862 ?00:00:00 nfsd
  863 ?00:00:00 nfsd
  864 ?00:00:00 nfsd
  865 ?00:00:00 nfsd

El recurso que comparto por NFS esta en un disco USB que lo monto
mediante /etc/fstab, ¿puede ser que necesite algo mas de tiempo para
montar?

¿puedo añadir un retardo en el arranque de inicio del servicio NFS?

Agradezco cualquier ayuda.

Un saludo.

-- 
Josu Lazkano

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

[Brian]

On Mon 08 May 2017 at 17:07:34 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:

> Brian  wrote:
> 
> > experimental is not a distribution. Someone with a sense of humour gave
> > it the codename "rc-buggy". At the present time many of the packages
> > there are being held back from unstable because of the freeze. Once
> > Stretch is officially released they will migrate to unstable.
> 
> Just to clarify: They will not "migrate" in the same sense as packages
> migrate from Unstable to Testing automatically. To "migrate" a package
> from Experimental to Unstable the maintainer has to reupload it with a
> higher version number.

That is correct. I was using "migrate" in the general sense of "moving".
Some packages can be in experimental a long time for one reason or
another. For example, experimental pmount fixes a particular bug. If a
user wants that version for that reason there is no need to be afraid to
try it. pmount is orphaned and, as yet, no one has seen fit to move it
to unstable.

Another example (from memory) is polkit. There is an aspect to it which
its maintainer does not want to unleash on unstable as yet. cups and
cups-filters, however, is in experimental probably because its
maintainer does not want it to migrate to testing at this stage. The
version there is rock solid and new aspects to the software require more
exposure before being considered for stable at this late stage.

Different reasons for different packages.

-- 
Brian.

Digikam shared library error

[B.M.]

Hi,

I've just upgraded two installations from jessie to stretch. Both have digikam 
installed. First installation runs digikam without any problem. But on the 
second one I've a shared library error:

Digikam: error while loading shared libraries: libgphoto2_port.so.10: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory

Interestingly, on both systems synaptic says that digikam-private-libs depends 
on libgphoto-port12 (>=2.5.10) which is installed on both and no libgphoto-
port10 is installed on neither the machine with the running nor the one with 
the not-running digikam. How's that possible?

I already tried checks, reinstalls of digikam and its dependencies, cruft and 
so on but I don't find out, what the root of the problem really is. Any hints 
on how to solve that are welcome...

Thank you,
Bernd

Re: Année des fichiers

[yamo']

Salut,

andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit le 08/05/2017 à 15:00 :
> Bonjour,
> 
> J'aurais pu poser cette question de newbie bien avant :-)
> 
> Je constate que bien des fichiers et répertoires n'affichent 
> pas l'année de leur création ou de leur modification (ls -l).
> 
> Comment le faire avec la commande ls ?
> 
> Certes, la commande "date -r fichier" l'indique,
> mais c'est plus contraignant car il faut taper à chaque
> fois le nom du fichier.
> 
> Merci,
> 
> André

Il faut utiliser l'option --full-time cf man ls.



-- 
Stéphane

Re: Useable guide to first invocation of mariadb - where?

[Richard Owlett]

On 05/08/2017 11:53 AM, Joe wrote:

On Mon, 8 May 2017 10:06:33 -0500
Richard Owlett  wrote:




Random meandering thru the help system yields documentation of
"account management" on the microscopic details (with links into
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/account-management-sql-commands/ ).

*NO USEFUL OVERVIEW*
I can create users and associated passwords.
But what *VITAL* things will be missing?

I, myself, will be creating any databases. But I do want to know that
all will be ready for the installation of WordPress to function.

Guidance?


I do not believe it has diverged far from the user interface of mysql,
and it will need to maintain backward compatibility for a while, and
there's plenty of this kind of thing around:

http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home/ehchua/programming/sql/mysql_beginner.html


That link doesn't have what I was looking for.
However it links to
http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home/ehchua/programming/sql/MySQL_HowTo.html
which appears.

Also some related pages appear to be a good general source;
http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home/ehchua/programming/index.html

Need a nap before attempting to read with comprehension ;/



What should have happened during installation was that you were asked
to create a root password, and it looks as if that happened as you can
talk to it as root. As far as I recall, there shouldn't be anything
else to do. It will have created its own housekeeping databases.

Have a play with the SHOW DATABASES, USE , SHOW TABLES
commands to see what's there.

If you have apache and php running, I'd recommend phpmyadmin as a
fairly painless way to deal with mysql/mariadb.

I know nothing of Wordpress, but in general, if you install an
application which wants to use mysql, it will ask for the mysql root
password in order to create its databases and tables, and will create
any users necessary. After the installation, it will hopefully have
forgotten the root account

By the way, as a new database user, apart from the identical name (and
therefore the default login if you don't provide a user name on the
command line), the mysql root user has nothing to do with the Linux
root user. It is a separate entity, within mysql. They need not (and
shouldn't) have the same password. Note also what someone else here
was confused about recently, that mysql knows users by both name and
client computer hostname, so richard@comp1 is a different user to
richard@comp2, and different again to richard@localhost and richard@%.
The '%' is the SQL wildcard. As different users, they can have
different privileges and passwords e.g richard@comp1 can use database
fred but not database bill, and richard@localhost can use bill but
not fred.
Wordpress will almost certainly name its user(s) 'xxx@localhost', and
that account will not work from anywhere else. I mention this in
detail because it took me a while to get the hang of it.

List the users/hosts with USE mysql; SELECT * FROM user;

Don't mess with user privileges until you understand them, a large
variety of privileges can exist globally, per database, per table and
per column. A user set up by an application will (hopefully) have
exactly the correct set of privileges.

Re: Download Manager

[deloptes]

Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> Blu-ray discs labels say "25 GB" but the media offer only 25025314816
> bytes, which shows that the thrifty merchants give us not more than 17
> floppies of programmer's rebate.

Same for some memory. It turned out in a system audit, when the team
assigned 16GB of memory to 4 machines, the audit program reported the
system as over provisioned. After some "looking into it" the team found out
it had actually 62GiB RAM. Since then they assign 4x15 and 2 left for the
OS.

Cool story

Re: Useable guide to first invocation of mariadb - where?

[Ric Moore]

On 05/08/2017 11:06 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:


I then did
  apt-get install mariadb-client mariadb-server

As user I (reasonably) see:
richard@stretch-2nd:~$ mariadb
ERROR 1698 (28000): Access denied for user 'richard'@'localhost'

As root I see:
root@stretch-2nd:/home/richard# mariadb
Welcome to the MariaDB monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MariaDB connection id is 10
Server version: 10.1.22-MariaDB- Debian 9.0


I have no experience with this database, but you may wish to check 
/etc/group and see if there is a mariadb group to add your user to. When 
trouble shooting with a shotgun, you're bound to get lucky. Ric



--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

Re: Useable guide to first invocation of mariadb - where?

[Joe]

On Mon, 8 May 2017 10:06:33 -0500
Richard Owlett  wrote:


> 
> Random meandering thru the help system yields documentation of
> "account management" on the microscopic details (with links into 
> https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/account-management-sql-commands/ ).
> 
> *NO USEFUL OVERVIEW*
> I can create users and associated passwords.
> But what *VITAL* things will be missing?
> 
> I, myself, will be creating any databases. But I do want to know that 
> all will be ready for the installation of WordPress to function.
> 
> Guidance?

I do not believe it has diverged far from the user interface of mysql,
and it will need to maintain backward compatibility for a while, and
there's plenty of this kind of thing around:

http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home/ehchua/programming/sql/mysql_beginner.html

What should have happened during installation was that you were asked
to create a root password, and it looks as if that happened as you can
talk to it as root. As far as I recall, there shouldn't be anything
else to do. It will have created its own housekeeping databases.

Have a play with the SHOW DATABASES, USE , SHOW TABLES
commands to see what's there.

If you have apache and php running, I'd recommend phpmyadmin as a
fairly painless way to deal with mysql/mariadb.

I know nothing of Wordpress, but in general, if you install an
application which wants to use mysql, it will ask for the mysql root
password in order to create its databases and tables, and will create
any users necessary. After the installation, it will hopefully have
forgotten the root account

By the way, as a new database user, apart from the identical name (and
therefore the default login if you don't provide a user name on the
command line), the mysql root user has nothing to do with the Linux root
user. It is a separate entity, within mysql. They need not (and
shouldn't) have the same password. Note also what someone else here was
confused about recently, that mysql knows users by both name and client
computer hostname, so richard@comp1 is a different user to
richard@comp2, and different again to richard@localhost and richard@%.
The '%' is the SQL wildcard. As different users, they can have different
privileges and passwords e.g richard@comp1 can use database fred but not
database bill, and richard@localhost can use bill but not fred.
Wordpress will almost certainly name its user(s) 'xxx@localhost', and
that account will not work from anywhere else. I mention this in detail
because it took me a while to get the hang of it.

List the users/hosts with USE mysql; SELECT * FROM user;

Don't mess with user privileges until you understand them, a large
variety of privileges can exist globally, per database, per table and
per column. A user set up by an application will (hopefully) have
exactly the correct set of privileges.

-- 
Joe

Re: Download Manager

[Patrick Bartek]

On Mon, 8 May 2017 13:20:18 +0530 Ashok Inder
 wrote:

> :With Uget
> Have a look at the attachments, Randomly downloaded a file, 87mb file
> turned out to be 91mb file.

As you've discovered from the other responses, that size difference is
just a matter of the size units used.  What's important: Does uget
satisfy your definition of a "decent' download manager?  Does it do
what you need it to do?

B

> 
> 
> 
> *From:* Patrick Bartek 
> *Sent:*  Monday, May 08, 2017 7:15AM
> *To:* Debian-user 
> *Subject:* Re: Download Manager
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On Sun, 7 May 2017 23:37:53 +0530 Ashok Inder
>  wrote:
> 
> > For past 7 years, Linux does not have a single descent Download
> > Manager. Its totally possible that none of you may have faced this
> > issue ever but its a somewhat major issue for me...
> > 
> > First with WGET, I'm not at all comfortable with cli, the other
> > being [big rant snipped]
> 
> I guess, it depends on what you mean by "decent."  Take a look at
> uget.  It's GUI-based and besides its other features, has Mozilla
> Firefox integration.  Or load synaptic and do some searches.  No
> commandline knowledge needed.
> 
> B
> 
> 

Re: Trabajo al inicio del sistema debian

[JAP]

El 06/05/17 a las 17:16, R Calleja escribió:

Hola,
alguien puede ayudarme, hice una instalacion de debian y cada vez que
inicio el sistema se ejecuta un jobs en el inicio .

Como puedo saber lo que hace el jobs y desactivarlo , tarda casi un
minuto y medio .

Gracias, Roberto.



http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html

JAP

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Sat, May 06, 2017 at 05:55:44PM -0400, RavenLX wrote:
> I am thinking about trying out Stretch (Debian 9) in either a spare laptop
> or a virtual machine. If I like it I might just point my sources list to
> that repo on both laptops if it's stable enough.

At this point - except for an important production service - I'd install stretch
over jessie with no hesitation. *Especially* on a throw-away VM or spare laptop
(in fact I have done so on several of both, many times, in the last few weeks).

-- 
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⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
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⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

[Sven Hartge]

Brian  wrote:

> experimental is not a distribution. Someone with a sense of humour gave
> it the codename "rc-buggy". At the present time many of the packages
> there are being held back from unstable because of the freeze. Once
> Stretch is officially released they will migrate to unstable.

Just to clarify: They will not "migrate" in the same sense as packages
migrate from Unstable to Testing automatically. To "migrate" a package
from Experimental to Unstable the maintainer has to reupload it with a
higher version number.

S°

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Useable guide to first invocation of mariadb - where?

[Richard Owlett]

My eventual goal is to install the Debian version of WordPress on my 
laptop and access it via http://localhost .
I did this with incomplete success. It was unclear if there were 
installation errors or there was a version incompatibility between my 
reference material an my installation. Situation is complicated by not 
having records of how did installation and setup last time.


>50 years of experience suggested a completely fresh install of 
*EVERYTHING*!


I installed Stretch with MATE desktop.
No problem installing Apache2.
I then did
  apt-get install mariadb-client mariadb-server

As user I (reasonably) see:
richard@stretch-2nd:~$ mariadb
ERROR 1698 (28000): Access denied for user 'richard'@'localhost'

As root I see:
root@stretch-2nd:/home/richard# mariadb
Welcome to the MariaDB monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MariaDB connection id is 10
Server version: 10.1.22-MariaDB- Debian 9.0

Copyright (c) 2000, 2016, Oracle, MariaDB Corporation Ab and others.

Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input 
statement.


MariaDB [(none)]>

Therefore mariadb was successfully installed.
*BUT* I find *NOTHING* on the web about first run of mariadb!

Random meandering thru the help system yields documentation of "account 
management" on the microscopic details (with links into 
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/account-management-sql-commands/ ).


*NO USEFUL OVERVIEW*
I can create users and associated passwords.
But what *VITAL* things will be missing?

I, myself, will be creating any databases. But I do want to know that 
all will be ready for the installation of WordPress to function.


Guidance?
TIA

Re: 4K problemen

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 27-04-17 om 21:59 schreef Paul van der Vlis:
> Hallo,
> 
> Ik ben een computer aan het maken voor iemand, en deze zou 4K moeten
> kunnen. De praktijk is echter dat 4K niet goed werkt. Er zitten
> regelmatig trillingen in het beeld. Niet als je niets doet, maar wel als
> je bezig bent.
> 
> Ik heb een kennis uitgenodigd met een Macbook die goed 4K kan. Daar is
> het beeld wel goed met dezelfde monitor en dezelfde kabel. Het gaat om
> een LG 27UD58-B monitor. Het lijkt me dus een probleem van de computer.
> 
> De computer is een gebruikte HP Z800 workstation met een AMD Firepro
> 4100 videokaart die 4K aankan. Zelfs op 4 monitoren tegelijk. En ik heb
> gelezen dat deze videokaart in de praktijk goed werkt met open source
> drivers.
> http://blog.mycre.ws/articles/works-with-debian-intel-ssd-750-amd-firepro-w4100-dell-p2715q/
> Hier staan de specs:
> http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/workstation/firepro-3d/4100#
> 
> Omdat het niet goed werkt verdacht ik de videokaart van problemen en heb
> deze terug gestuurd en een andere gekregen. Het is misschien ietsje
> beter, maar het werkt nog steeds niet echt goed.
> 
> Iemand een tip of idee?

Sorry dat ik op een aantal mensen niet gereageerd heb. Ik kreeg het
plots nogal druk met iets anders.

Ondertussen is me duidelijk dat het probleem alles te maken heeft met
het Linux kernel. Met Debian 8 (en dus Linux 3.16) werkt de videkaart
prima in 4K. Als ik dat het 4.9 kernel uit jessie-backports installeer
dan zie ik de problemen. Als ik in grub kies voor 3.16, dan is het
probleem weer weg.

Ik kan het probleem ook reproduceren op een heel andere machine (maar
wel met de genoemde videokaart.

Ik heb een bug-report ingediend, ik hoop dat men er iets mee kan:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=862102

Groeten,
Paul.



-- 
Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen
https://www.vandervlis.nl/

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Re: Problema resolução vídeo.

[Rodolfo]

Se você digitar somente xrandr, qual a saída?

Outra coisa, tente LVDS somente, e teste também com esse comando:

$ xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1400x1080

Abraços.

Em 8 de maio de 2017 04:12, João Paulo Ferreira 
escreveu:

> Segue alguns exemplos:
>
> cvt 1440 900 60
> xrandr --newmode "1440x900_60.00"  106.50  1440 1528 1672 1904  900 903
> 909 934 -hsync +vsync
> xrandr --addmode LVDS1 1440x900_60.00
> xrandr --output LVDS1 --scale 1.5x1.5
>
> Atenciosamente,
>
> *João Paulo Ferreira*
> *B.S. Ciência da Computação* - UNIVERSIDADE SALVADOR
> *Esp. Redes de Computadores e Telecomunicações* - UNIVERSIDADE SALVADOR
> *Novell Certified Linux Administrator* - NOVELL
> *Certified Linux Professional Institute *- LPI
> *CompTIA Linux+* - COMPTIA
> *Mikrotik Certified Network Associate* - MIKROTIK
> Cel.: +55 (71) 9918-1235 <+55%2071%209918-1235> VIVO
> Cel.: +55 (71) 8837-7080 <+55%2071%208837-7080> OI
> Skype.: joaopaulo.cf
> G-Talk/Mail: jferreira...@gmail.com
>
> Em 7 de maio de 2017 21:45, Rodolfo  escreveu:
>
>> Nesse link que você postou, ele informa que essa a resolução padrão é 13
>> 66x768
>>
>> Você quer mais que isso? Se sim, qual o comando que você utilizou para
>> tal?
>>
>> Em 7 de maio de 2017 20:41, João Paulo Ferreira 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> http://www.clubedohardware.com.br/forums/topic/912000-review
>>> -ar-787p-cce/
>>>
>>>
>>> Em dom, 7 de mai de 2017 às 21:38, Rodolfo 
>>> escreveu:
>>>
 Geralmente a marca e o modelo do notebook se encontram em baixo do
 mesmo, em uma etiqueta, não achei nenhuma referência para 787ap CCE

 Em 7 de maio de 2017 20:37, João Paulo Ferreira  escreveu:

> Corrigindo ar 787ap
>
>
>
> Em dom, 7 de mai de 2017 às 21:36, João Paulo Ferreira <
> jferreira...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> É um notebook ar 788ap CCE.
>>
>>
>>
>> Em dom, 7 de mai de 2017 às 21:36, Rodolfo 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Pode informar a marca e modelo do seu monitor? Se for notebook,
>>> marca e modelo do mesmo?
>>>
>>> Abraços.
>>>
>>> Em 7 de maio de 2017 20:34, João Paulo Ferreira <
>>> jferreira...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>
 Boa noite Rodolfo,

 Obrigado por responder e desculpa pela minha pouca explicação.

 Na verdade eu queria colocar uma resolução maior quer 1330x768 e
 não consigo nem pelo xrand.

 Já busquei em diversos fóruns.

 Em dom, 7 de mai de 2017 às 21:19, Rodolfo 
 escreveu:

> Você poderia explicar com mais detalhes, o que seria "Sendo que
> já obtive resoluções melhores"?
>
> Abraços.
>
> Em 7 de maio de 2017 19:21, João Paulo Ferreira <
> jferreira...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Boa noite!
>>
>> Estou enfrentando um problema pós-instalação do Debian Jessie em
>> um notebook um pouquinho velho.
>> A resolução disponibilizada pelo X são:
>>
>>1366x768  60.00*+
>>1360x768  59.8059.96
>>1024x768  60.00
>>800x600   60.3256.25
>>640x480   59.94
>>
>> Sendo que já obtive resoluções melhores em outras distro "Kali
>> Linux" e versões antiga do Debian.
>>
>> Já busquei em diversos foruns mais não obtive exceto. Então venho
>> aqui pedir à ajuda de vocês.
>>
>> *lspci*
>>>
>>
>> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd
>> Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 
>> 09)
>>
>> *lshw*
>>>
>>
>>   *-display
>>description: VGA compatible controller
>>product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated
>> Graphics Controller
>>vendor: Intel Corporation
>>physical id: 2
>>bus info: pci@:00:02.0
>>version: 09
>>width: 64 bits
>>clock: 33MHz
>>capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
>>configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
>>resources: irq:42 memory:f780-f7bf
>> memory:e000-efff ioport:f000(size=64)
>>
>> *Processor*
>>>
>>
>> model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz
>>
>> *Version*
>>>
>>
>> Debian 8.5
>>
>> *Kernel version*
>>>
>>
>> 3.16.0-4-amd64
>>
>> Atenciosamente,
>>
>> *João Paulo Ferreira*
>>
>
> --
 Atenciosamente,

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

[Brian]

On Mon 08 May 2017 at 12:13:30 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Monday 08 May 2017 00:45:34 Michael Milliman wrote:
> > Many people also run Experimental
> > (Sid) for the benefit of bleeding-edge versions of software, but a lot
> > of instability (in all senses of the word).
> 
> No, Sid is not the same as Experimental.  Sid is Unstable.  Then there is 
> also 
> Experimental, which cannot actually be run, but from which packages can be 
> taken (if you like to live dangerously ;-)  )

experimental is not a distribution. Someone with a sense of humour gave
it the codename "rc-buggy". At the present time many of the packages
there are being held back from unstable because of the freeze. Once
Stretch is officially released they will migrate to unstable. They will
be no less dangerous there than they were in experimental (unless bugs
have been fixed in the meantime).

However, I agree with your sentiment. Users installing packages from the
experimental archive should read the changelogs carefully and be prepared
to meet and report bugs.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Canon Selphie CP740

[Brian]

On Mon 08 May 2017 at 15:29:49 +0300, David Baron wrote:

> This is a USB printer and there is a Gutenberg driver for it.
> How does one get it working?

By reading the wiki and then providing a teeny-weeny bit more
information than is here.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Debian et Chromecast

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Thu, 4 May 2017 10:18:05 +0200
"C. Mourad Jaber"  a écrit:

> Le 03/05/2017 à 23:17, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > Est-ce que l'on peut utiliser un Chromecast depuis une machine sous debian
> > (testing) ?
> >
> > Gaëtan
> >
> Bonjour,
> 
> Chromecast fonctionne avec Google Chrome/Chromium et le plugin kivabien,
> donc pas de soucis avec une testing...
> 
> Perso, j'ai 1 chromecast et Chrome et un plugin "Videostream for Google
> Chromecast" (pas libre évidement :( ) et ça roule nickel...
> 
> Par contre, à ma connaissance, il n'y a pas d'autres appli compatibles... Si
> j'ai tord, je suis prenneur pour toute infos ;)
> 
> ++
> 
> Mourad

Bonjour,

Merci pour ton retour.

En cherchant dans les paquets debian je suis tombé sur ceux-ci:
mkchromecast/unstable,unstable 0.3.7+git20170414-1 all
  Cast your Linux audio or video to your Google Cast devices

mkchromecast-alsa/unstable,unstable 0.3.7+git20170414-1 all
  ALSA dependencies to cast with mkchromecast

mkchromecast-gstreamer/unstable,unstable 0.3.7+git20170414-1 all
  GStreamer dependencies to cast with mkchromecast

mkchromecast-pulseaudio/unstable,unstable 0.3.7+git20170414-1 all
  Pulseaudio dependencies to cast with mkchromecast

pulseaudio-dlna/unstable,unstable 0.5.3+git20170406-1 all
  Stream audio to DLNA devices and Chromecasts

python-pychromecast/testing,testing,unstable,unstable 0.7.7-2 all
  Library to communicate with Google Chromecast

python3-pychromecast/testing,testing,unstable,unstable 0.7.7-2 all
  Library to communicate with Google Chromecast (Python 3)

Est-ce quelqu'un aurait un retour d'expérience sur leur usage et leur
fonctionnement?

Gaëtan

Re: Année des fichiers

[Frederic MASSOT]

Le 08/05/2017 à 14:49, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'aurais pu poser cette question de newbie bien avant :-)

Je constate que bien des fichiers et répertoires n'affichent
pas l'année de leur création ou de leur modification (ls -l).


"ls -l" affiche pour les fichiers de l'année en cours le jour, le mois 
et l'heure, pour les fichiers de l'année précédente il affiche le jour, 
le mois et l'année.




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Année des fichiers

[andre_debian]

Bonjour,

J'aurais pu poser cette question de newbie bien avant :-)

Je constate que bien des fichiers et répertoires n'affichent 
pas l'année de leur création ou de leur modification (ls -l).

Comment le faire avec la commande ls ?

Certes, la commande "date -r fichier" l'indique,
mais c'est plus contraignant car il faut taper à chaque
fois le nom du fichier.

Merci,

André

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sat, May 06, 2017 at 07:38:34PM -0400, RavenLX wrote:
> What list do I report bugs to and is there something online that tells 
> someone (who doesn't normally report bugs) the proper way to do bug reports?

For most users, the preferred way is to run the reportbug program.

You can see more details (including other ways to file bug reports)
at http://bugs.debian.org/

Re: Download Manager

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> So you get what's advertised. What are you complaining about ?

There ain't no gifts any more.


> Do you just miss the old time when 74' CD-Rs were labelled 650 MB but
> actually contained 650 MiB/680 MB ?

Yeah. That was when a whole GNU/Linux did fit on a single CD.

I also miss the old times when one could buy a lollypop for 5 pfennig.
The only thing that eases nostalgy is my 4x3.5 MHz Xeon with 16 GiB RAM
and a little pile of BD burners on top of it.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Canon Selphie CP740

[David Baron]

This is a USB printer and there is a Gutenberg driver for it.
How does one get it working?

Re: /tmp/.X0-lock

[Greg Wooledge]

On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 06:06:30PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> I can still
> use the sysvinit boot option that presents a graphical login and after that
> starts the X server. (I then have to run 'service network restart' to connect
> to the Internet and there is complaining about that being deprecated but good
> thing something works.

On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 09:04:02PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> UIDPID  PPID  C STIME TTY  TIME CMD
> root  2994  2812  0 17:36 tty7 00:01:23 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg :0 -seat
> seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolist
> 
> that would be the one I'm using. I will try that command after stopping the
> X-server
> 
> after stopping the X-server I ran: ps --fC Xorg
> UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD
> 
> on running startx (as user) the X server failed to start with these error
> messages:
> 
> (EE) could not create lock file in /tmp/.tX0-lock

I'm assuming you are on stretch.

So, when you allow lightdm to run at boot, everything is fine, but if you
run "startx" as a non-root user from a text console, you get the error.

lightdm is running the X server as root (verified by your ps output),
and this is presumably creating the /tmp/.X0-lock (and/or .tX0-lock)
file(s) as root.

Then, when you try to run startx as a non-root user, it tries to create
the same file(s), but they already exist under a different owner (root),
and so it fails.  (And this would have worked under jessie, because the
X server ran setuid root in jessie.  Not so in stretch.)

The obvious temporary fix would be to remove those files (as root, after
verifying that the X server is indeed terminated).  I do not know how
a permanent fix would be achieved.  My first guess would be that either
lightdm or Xorg should be removing those files from /tmp upon termination,
but I don't know which one.

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

[songbird]

Michael Milliman wrote:
> On 05/07/2017 04:19 PM, RavenLX wrote:
>> On 05/07/2017 04:33 PM, cbannis...@kinect.co.nz wrote:
>>> By the way, the words "unstable" "stable" as used in the distribution
>>> names
>>> don't mean likely to crash, --- it refers to the amount of changes
>>> occurring, i.e. 'stable' has no new packages entering it, and
>>> supposedly only
>>> security updates, whereas "unstable" is unstable because there are many
>>> changes occuring on a constant basis.
>> 
>> Thank you for this info. I admit I always thought "unstable" meant it
>> might still have bugs or still be in beta. I don't mind when things
>> change frequently because sometimes this is how one can get new features
>> in a newer version of a program.
>> 
> Yeah, this is one of the main things sited as a drawback to the Debian
> distributionpackages are sometimes a little older than in other
> distributions.  But, this is because the Debian developers spend so much
> time making sure that they work properly in the distribution before they
> are released in the repositories.  As a result, things change a lot less
> frequently.  The benefit of this is that Debian is 'stable' in all
> senses of the word...few serious bugs and system instability, and little
> or no instability in what is part of the distribution.  For many people,
> especially businesses, this stability is important.  For others, like
> myself, I can afford a little more instability, and so can deal with any
> instability in testing for the benefit of getting newer versions of the
> packages and run Testing (Stretch).

> Many people also run Experimental (Sid) for the benefit of 
> bleeding-edge versions of software, but a lot of instability 
> (in all senses of the word).

  please note that Experimental is not the same as
unstable (Sid).  it is yet another repository and has no
claims of usability at all.


  songbird

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 08 May 2017 00:45:34 Michael Milliman wrote:
> Many people also run Experimental
> (Sid) for the benefit of bleeding-edge versions of software, but a lot
> of instability (in all senses of the word).

No, Sid is not the same as Experimental.  Sid is Unstable.  Then there is also 
Experimental, which cannot actually be run, but from which packages can be 
taken (if you like to live dangerously ;-)  )

Lisi

Re: Download Manager

[Peter Ludikovsky]

On 05/08/2017 10:19 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> The image 2.png says "91.2 MB (9,11,79,280 bytes)". Ignoring the strange
> commas in the byte number one can compute

That's probably due to the Indian numbering system[0] being used, which
groups digits above 9,999 in twos.

Regards,
/peter

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system



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Re: Download Manager

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Sun, May 07, 2017 at 11:37:53PM +0530, Ashok Inder wrote:
> For past 7 years, Linux does not have a single descent Download Manager.

Have you tried JDownloader? (http://jdownloader.org)

> For eg: I remember back in 2010, downloading a 5-6mb of a single file (mp3 to
> be precise), the wget ended up downloading packet of total size with 11mb and
> obviously corrupt file or yesterday downloading a office file of 90 mb were
> wget downloaded a total of 105mb file and again a corrupt file.

Have you verified that these files are corrupt using known checksums? As others
have pointed out in some replies, the discrepancies you are seeing are
consistent with comparing a MB (SI unit) with a MiB (base 2, e.g. 1KiB =
1024B)), which suggests you have downloaded them successfully after all.


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Re: Download Manager

[tomas]

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On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 11:55:02AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > "Merchant's MB". [...]
> > May I use that quote from time to time?
> 
> Sure. It's a translation from ancient german "Verkaeufermeg", an expression
> from the time when the disks reached gigabyte sizes [...]

Yeah, living in Germany for quite a while I can connect to that history.
Still, your English version, with this aliteration is a small gem :)

Cheers
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Re: Segmentation fault in top -b1 -hc

[tomas]

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On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 11:46:13AM +0200, Peter Ludikovsky wrote:
> On 05/08/2017 11:19 AM, Valentin Bajrami wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > There is a segmentation fault when top is used as follow
> > 
> > top -b1 -hc
> > 
> > I think the args are not parsed properly.  The version used is:
> > procps-ng version 3.3.10
> > 
> > -- 
> > Met vriendelijke groet,
> > 
> > Valentin Bajrami
> 
> There's no package procps-ng [0].

Indeed. There seems to be one props-ng floating around, but it doesn't
come from Debian's official repos.

To find out where that package comes from, try

  apt-cache policy procps-ng-3.3.10

(or however that package is really called, you can find that out
with "aptitude search procps-ng" or something similar).

HTH
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Re: Download Manager

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 08/05/2017 à 11:55, Thomas Schmitt a écrit :


to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

"Merchant's MB". [...]
May I use that quote from time to time?


Sure. It's a translation from ancient german "Verkaeufermeg", an expression
from the time when the disks reached gigabyte sizes and the disk sellers
began to count in SI units, which gave them 7.4 percent larger numbers.


Disks capacity was labelled with SI prefixes (not units, byte|octet are 
not SI units) before it reached gigabyte sizes. The smaller hard disk 
drive I still have is labelled 270 MB, and its capacity is 270,054,400 
bytes (CHS 959*11*50). My other under-GB hard disks are labelled similarly.



Up to then, only SI purists like physics teachers insisted that kilo is
1000 and not 1024.


Not only SI purists but also networking/telecom guys. 1 kbit/s has 
always been consistantly 1000 bits per second.



Blu-ray discs labels say "25 GB" but the media offer only 25025314816 bytes,
which shows that the thrifty merchants give us not more than 17 floppies
of programmer's rebate.


So you get what's advertised. What are you complaining about ?
Do you just miss the old time when 74' CD-Rs were labelled 650 MB but 
actually contained 650 MiB/680 MB ? I had some CD which were accurately 
labelled 680 MB.

Re: Download Manager

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> "Merchant's MB". [...]
> May I use that quote from time to time?

Sure. It's a translation from ancient german "Verkaeufermeg", an expression
from the time when the disks reached gigabyte sizes and the disk sellers
began to count in SI units, which gave them 7.4 percent larger numbers.
Up to then, only SI purists like physics teachers insisted that kilo is
1000 and not 1024.

Blu-ray discs labels say "25 GB" but the media offer only 25025314816 bytes,
which shows that the thrifty merchants give us not more than 17 floppies
of programmer's rebate.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Segmentation fault in top -b1 -hc

[Peter Ludikovsky]

On 05/08/2017 11:19 AM, Valentin Bajrami wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> There is a segmentation fault when top is used as follow
> 
> top -b1 -hc
> 
> I think the args are not parsed properly.  The version used is:
> procps-ng version 3.3.10
> 
> -- 
> Met vriendelijke groet,
> 
> Valentin Bajrami

There's no package procps-ng [0].

procps is version 3.3.9 in Stable, and 3.3.12 in Testing/Unstable [1].
Update to the current version, and if the problem persists please report
the issue via the reportbug [2][3] utility.

Regards
/peter

[0] https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=procps-ng
[1] https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=procps
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/reportbug
[3] https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting



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Segmentation fault in top -b1 -hc

[Valentin Bajrami]

Hi,

There is a segmentation fault when top is used as follow

top -b1 -hc

I think the args are not parsed properly.  The version used is: procps-ng
version 3.3.10

-- 
Met vriendelijke groet,

Valentin Bajrami

Re: Download Manager

[tomas]

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On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 10:19:47AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

[...]

> That's simply the ambiguity between merchants' and physicists' MB and
> programmers' MiB.

"Merchant's MB". Thomas, you made my day again.

May I use that quote from time to time?

> Have a nice day :)

Yeah, as I said :^)

cheers
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Which driver for Nvidia card on jessie

[Urs Thuermann]

After a hardware change my workstation with X11/XFCE has a new Nvidia
graphics card and the nouveau driver doesn't seem to work with new
card.  Before the hardware change I used xserver-xorg-video-nouveau.

The new Nvidia card is listed by lspci as

02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1430 (rev a1) 
(prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 1190
Physical Slot: 2
Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 32
Memory at f200 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at f000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at 1000 [size=128]
Expansion ROM at f308 [disabled] [size=512K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [78] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [258] L1 PM Substates
Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting 
Capabilities: [420] Advanced Error Reporting
Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 

Capabilities: [900] #19

I haven't found much info on which driver to use with this card.  Is
the nouveau driver able to work with it?  Or do I have to use the
Nvidia binary only driver?

urs

Re: Download Manager

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Ashok Inder:
> Have a look at the attachments, Randomly downloaded a file, 87mb file
> turned out to be 91mb file.
> ... 1.png ... 2.png ...

That's simply the ambiguity between merchants' and physicists' MB and
programmers' MiB.
The image 2.png says "91.2 MB (9,11,79,280 bytes)". Ignoring the strange
commas in the byte number one can compute

  91179280 / 1024 / 1024 = 86.95533752441406

which matches the "87.0 MiB" shown in image 1.png.

So the only problem is in the commas.
The programmers of both tools were even so nice to properly mark their
numbers as "MB" and "MiB". One can still see lots of "MB" in other programs
which should actually be "MiB".


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Download Manager

[Ashok Inder]

:With Uget
Have a look at the attachments, Randomly downloaded a file, 87mb file
turned out to be 91mb file.




*From:* Patrick Bartek 
*Sent:*  Monday, May 08, 2017 7:15AM
*To:* Debian-user 
*Subject:* Re: Download Manager


 


On Sun, 7 May 2017 23:37:53 +0530 Ashok Inder
 wrote:

> For past 7 years, Linux does not have a single descent Download
> Manager. Its totally possible that none of you may have faced this
> issue ever but its a somewhat major issue for me...
> 
> First with WGET, I'm not at all comfortable with cli, the other being
> [big rant snipped]

I guess, it depends on what you mean by "decent."  Take a look at
uget.  It's GUI-based and besides its other features, has Mozilla
Firefox integration.  Or load synaptic and do some searches.  No
commandline knowledge needed.

B




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