Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

[Angus Auld]

--- On Fri, 3/13/09, Angus Auld  wrote:

> From: Angus Auld 
> Subject: Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting
> To: "debian-user" 
> Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 10:55 AM
> --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Bob Cox
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Bob Cox 
> > Subject: Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:55 PM
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 00:12:15 -0500, Kumar Appaiah
> > (a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in) wrote: 
> > 
> > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:04:29PM -0700, Ken
> Teague
> > wrote:
> > > > There's nothing more painful when
> reading
> > e-mail than to start from the  
> > > > very bottom, read the message, then begin to
> read
> > each reply upwards. It 
> > > > becomes really bad when some replies are
> more
> > than a page long because 
> > > > you now have to scroll back down to read it,
> then
> > scroll up to find the 
> > > > next reply.  Weeding through top-posts makes
> me
> > want to kick someones 
> > > > cat.
> > > 
> > > There's something worse than that: A mixture
> of
> > top and bottom posts!
> > > From the level of quoting at least, one can
> decipher
> > pure top posted
> > > mails (however painful that is). But a potent
> > combination of the two
> > > becomes so disastrous that I just forget reading
> that
> > thread! :-)
> > 
> > I couldn't agree more.  I have just been reading
> > another thread on this
> > list which has had its readability irrevocably
> destroyed by
> > a
> > top-poster.  On top of this, our top-posting friend
> wrote
> > in HTML,
> > tripling the size of his worthless contribution and to
> cap
> > it all, cc'd
> > the list and replied directly to the previous
> contributor
> > in the thread
> > (not the OP, who just might have appreciated it). 
> Worse
> > than useless.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Bob Cox.  Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK.
> 
> It seems to me that following the established procedure on
> the mailing list you are seeking help from, be that
> top-posting, as is the established method here, or
> bottom-posting, as may be the established procedure
> elsewhere, is a small thing to do to keep everything
> functioning in a more orderly fashion. I see nothing wrong
> with that procedure being pointed out to posters who may not
> be aware of the prevailing method.
> 
> Why would one want to upset the very ppl you are seeking
> help from, and who contribute freely of their time to help
> others who are genuinely interested in being helped?
> 
> Just my views.best regards to all.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Angus

Proof reading might also be a good idea, as is evidenced by my mistakenly 
saying that top-posting is the established method here. ;)
Bottom-posting of course is the prevailing method on debian-user.
My apologies to all. The rest of my comments withstanding.

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Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

[Angus Auld]

--- On Thu, 3/12/09, Bob Cox  wrote:

> From: Bob Cox 
> Subject: Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:55 PM
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 00:12:15 -0500, Kumar Appaiah
> (a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in) wrote: 
> 
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:04:29PM -0700, Ken Teague
> wrote:
> > > There's nothing more painful when reading
> e-mail than to start from the  
> > > very bottom, read the message, then begin to read
> each reply upwards. It 
> > > becomes really bad when some replies are more
> than a page long because 
> > > you now have to scroll back down to read it, then
> scroll up to find the 
> > > next reply.  Weeding through top-posts makes me
> want to kick someones 
> > > cat.
> > 
> > There's something worse than that: A mixture of
> top and bottom posts!
> > From the level of quoting at least, one can decipher
> pure top posted
> > mails (however painful that is). But a potent
> combination of the two
> > becomes so disastrous that I just forget reading that
> thread! :-)
> 
> I couldn't agree more.  I have just been reading
> another thread on this
> list which has had its readability irrevocably destroyed by
> a
> top-poster.  On top of this, our top-posting friend wrote
> in HTML,
> tripling the size of his worthless contribution and to cap
> it all, cc'd
> the list and replied directly to the previous contributor
> in the thread
> (not the OP, who just might have appreciated it).  Worse
> than useless.
> 
> -- 
> Bob Cox.  Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK.

It seems to me that following the established procedure on the mailing list you 
are seeking help from, be that top-posting, as is the established method here, 
or bottom-posting, as may be the established procedure elsewhere, is a small 
thing to do to keep everything functioning in a more orderly fashion. I see 
nothing wrong with that procedure being pointed out to posters who may not be 
aware of the prevailing method.

Why would one want to upset the very ppl you are seeking help from, and who 
contribute freely of their time to help others who are genuinely interested in 
being helped?

Just my views.best regards to all.


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Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser

[Angus Auld]

--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Ron Johnson  wrote:

> From: Ron Johnson 
> Subject: Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 7:30 AM
> On 02/12/2009 11:46 PM, Angus Auld wrote:
> [snip]
> > 
> >
> http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_i386.deb
> > 
> >
> http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_amd64.deb
> > 
> 
> Or, since you don't *really* know what andi.de1.cc is
> or who runs it, get the deb-src from either Etch or Sid and
> build it yourself on Lenny.
> 
> -- Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson LA  USA
> 
The links I provided are taken from the dillo.org website. I think they can be 
assumed to be from a reliable source.

I use dillo from this source.

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Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser

[Angus Auld]

--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Marc Shapiro  wrote:

> From: Marc Shapiro 
> Subject: Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 4:58 AM
> L Glidewell wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 February 2009 19:25:50 Marc Shapiro
> wrote:
> >> Is there a light-weight browser that does not have
> a huge list of
> >> dependencies?
> >> --
> >> Marc Shapiro
> >> mshapiro...@yahoo.com
> > 
> > Kazehakase:
> > http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/kazehakase
> > 
> > It is capable of using either Webkit or Gecko as the
> rendering engine, but only the Gecko version has been built
> for Lenny. 
> > Obviously, it's heavier (and far more functional)
> than Dillo. For the tasks you mention, it might be better to
> use something like links2. Or build Dillo. 
> 
> I'll give it a try.  It is certainly heavier than dillo
> -- 20 new packages and about 10MB to download.  It loads
> pages quickly off the web, though, so it ought to be good
> and fast for local html documentation.
> 
> -- Marc Shapiro
> mshapiro...@yahoo.com
> 

http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_i386.deb

http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_amd64.deb


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Re: grub error in fresh installation lenny

[Angus Auld]

--- On Tue, 2/10/09, PierPaolo  wrote:

> From: PierPaolo 
> Subject: grub error in fresh installation lenny
> To: "debian-user" 
> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 12:16 PM
> Noway. Grub legacy, Grub2... The boot up procedure from the
> bios ends,
> respectively, in "Grub error 22", or in a page
> full of "GRUBGRUBGRUBGRUB"
> I'm trying to install lenny 32 on an athlon xp 2.600+
> some hints?
> 
> -- 
> « Affarismo, egomania, consorterie, disprezzo
> dell'opinione pubblica,
> stupidità arrogante connotano i sistemi moribondi » --
> F.C.
> --
I don't know specifically what your problem may be, but I tried updating grub 
legacy to grub2 on a running lenny install, and was left with a system that 
would not boot.

I'm uncertain from your post if you are trying to use grub legacy or grub2, but 
there is/was a clear warning that grub2 is a work in progress, and that 
breakage should be expected. I have stayed with grub legacy and have not had 
any problems at all. I'm not sure what possible advantage grub2 might offer 
over grub legacy anyway. I've just stayed with what works for me. :)

Hopefully someone else can offer you more advice on how to get grub2(?) to work.

Best regards.

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Re: Term not set

[Angus Auld]

--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Frank McCormick  wrote:

> From: Frank McCormick 
> Subject: Re: Term not set
> To: l.glidewell.li...@gmail.com
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 2:11 PM
> L Glidewell wrote:
> > On Thursday 05 February 2009 20:06:54 Frank McCormick
> wrote:
> >> Frank McCormick wrote:
> >>> Lately when the terminal is running in
> update-manager installing
> >>> packages, it says "Term not set" so
> Dialog won't work. It falls back to
> >>> readline.
> >>> How can I fix this?
> >>   Nobody ??
> > Well, the question isn't completely clear. How do
> you run this application, 
> > and in what context do you receive this error message?
> 
> 
> Simple. Click on update-manager...if there are no updates
> to be
> installed...click on "check". If there are
> updates, click on "Install".
> When the installation begins I presume update-manager runs
> a terminal,
> because that is where I see the message "Term not
> set"
> 
> 
> How does the terminal
> > run "in" update-manager? Wouldn't it be
> the other way around? 
> 
> Update-manager is a GTK program...so it'll run from the
> desktop.
> 
> What dialogue
> > isn't working? What do you mean by readline?
> 
> Readline I gather is the default the system uses when
> Dialog isn't
> available.

This has to do with debconf, I sorted this issue by running "configure-debian", 
then choosing subsection "admin", then choose program "debconf", then choose 
the interface and priority level you want to use. I use KDE, so naturally I 
choose the KDE interface. 

HTH's.

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Re: Problems with installation of OpenOffice 3.0

[Angus Auld]

--- On Mon, 1/26/09, Rodolfo Medina  wrote:

> From: Rodolfo Medina 
> Subject: Problems with installation of OpenOffice 3.0
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 11:20 PM
> >From openoffice web site I downloaded the tarball
> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_wJRE_en-US.tar.gz and
> installed it in my Debian
> system.  But then, when I start openoffice, it fails with
> the following error
> message:
> 
> $ openoffice.org3
> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: line 124:
> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/pagein:
> No such file or directory
> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin: error while
> loading shared libraries: libuno_sal.so.3: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> .  Anybody who has a direct experience on the matter, who
> installed OpenOffice
> from tarball?
> 
> Thanks for any help
> Rodolfo

Openoffice offers a package for Debian that contains all the necessary debs.
You can get it by making your choice here:

http://download.openoffice.org/other.html#en-US

I've installed Openoffice3 using this package (after uninstalling the default 
Openoffice packages on my lenny system), and everything seems to be working 
fine.

HTH's.
 
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Re: Speeding up Debian Boot

[Angus Auld]

--- On Sun, 1/11/09, Celejar  wrote:

> From: Celejar 
> Subject: Re: Speeding up Debian Boot
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 11:30 PM
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:17:57 -0500
> JoeHill  wrote:
> 
> > Ron Johnson wrote: 
> > 
> > > On 01/11/09 11:49, Dean Chester wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > Is there anyway i can speed up debians boot
> time. Its embarrassing that 
> > > > Vista boots up quicker than debian.  
> > > 
> > > If you only reboot your machine once or twice a
> month, does it 
> > > matter whether boot times are slow?
> > 
> > maybe if it's a laptop ;)
> 
> Suspend to disk; once you begin using it, you won't be
> able to do
> without it.
> 
> Celejar
>

The way I see it, Vista might boot a lil' faster, but it's worth the wait for 
Debian. It might be a bit embarrassing to have Vista boot faster, but at least 
you don't have to be embarrassed after it's up and runningunlike Vista.

Just my humble opinion. Debian ROCKS.
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Re: [OT]I just got a phish call!!!

[Angus Auld]

--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Mark Allums  wrote:

> From: Mark Allums 
> Subject: Re: [OT]I just got a phish call!!!
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 11:30 AM
> Michael Marsh wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Mark Allums
>  wrote:
> >>  In the US, get on the Do Not Call List. 
> http://www.donotcall.gov/
> >> 
> >>  Might help a little.
> > 
> > People prepared to commit fraud don't particularly
> care about the Do
> > Not Call List.  If you can't get their phone
> number or company name
> > (they hang up or give you a bogus name when you ask),
> it's difficult
> > to report them.  What I'd like is one of those
> *-codes to
> > automatically report a call, since the phone company
> has a much better
> > idea of who called than I do.
> > 
> > If they're cracking PBXs, it might not help much,
> though the PBX
> > owners could be fined for maintaining an attractive
> nuisance without
> > adequate security.
> > 
> 
> 
> Well, after I wrote, I realized my error about Asterix, but
> notice, I *did* say, "a little."  It doesn't
> hurt to be on the DNC list, even if it doesn't help so
> much.
> 
> Mark Allums
>
We have a DNC list here in Canada too. And it does help a lot when it comes to 
telephone soliciting. However, I think legit charities are still allowed to 
call.

https://www.lnnte-dncl.gc.ca/index-eng

 
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Re: kernel version of debian testing.

[Angus Auld]

--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Jan Brosius  wrote:

> From: Jan Brosius 
> Subject: kernel version of debian testing.
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 6:55 PM
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone know the kernel version in the latest version
> of debian-testing? I 
> saw on the internet that my hardware (more precisely my
> ethernet card) needs 
> kernel 2.6.27-*.
> 
> thanks for any information,
> Jan

Testing is still using the 2.6.26 kernel.

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Re: pidgin

[Angus Auld]

Sorry for the top post. Hit send before realizing.

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Re: pidgin

[Angus Auld]

I used to use pidgin, when it was called gaim, but I have since started using 
aMSN. I am uncertain as to whether pidgin has off-line messaging support, but I 
do know that aMSN does. It is a very feature rich program, and it works well. 
It is only MSN capable however, so if you need the other protocols that pidgin 
supports, aMSN won't fit your bill. Kopete is also a nice program (if you use 
KDE), but is not off-line message capable to my knowledge.

Regards.

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--- On Sun, 12/14/08, Frank Lanitz  wrote:

> From: Frank Lanitz 
> Subject: Re: pidgin
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 9:45 PM
> Hi Daniel, 
> 
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:18:49 +1100
> Daniel Dalton  wrote:
> 
> > Can someone please tell me how to enable msn offline
> messages support
> > in pidgin. So I can read my msn offline messages in
> pidgin? What
> > version of pidgin do I need, and what is the best way
> to get this
> > version on debian? is there anything else I must do on
> debian to
> > enable offline messages?
> > 
> > I tried the pidgin support list, but didn't get
> much help.
> 
> I guess you should be a bit more patient and wait for a
> proper answer
> at pidgin mailing list. From my best knowledge, Pidgin is
> not
> supporting sending offline message for MSN in current
> status (but
> maybe I'm wrong). But there will be no better
> information than on
> their list ... in special when you are building your own
> binary as
> you mentioned over there ;) 
> 
> Cheers, 
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Re: PCI ethernet card from ebay doesn't work at all. Some progress...

[Angus Auld]

--- On Mon, 12/1/08, A. F. Cano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: A. F. Cano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PCI ethernet card from ebay doesn't work at all.  Some 
> progress...
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 2:22 AM
> First, thanks to all that have replied to my orignial query.
>  I have
> made some progress, but I still can't even ping.
> 
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 05:00:51AM -0800, Angus Auld wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> > I have a cardbus adapter called "Zonet ZEN 1201
> >10/100 Mbps Fast Ethernet 32-bit", which is actually a
> >Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+. It was very inexpensive, but
> >it works extremely well for me in my Dell Inspiron 1150
> >using Lenny.
> > It is identified thusly by lshw:
> > *-network
> >...
> >   logical name: eth0
> 
> This is interesting.  On my machine it is eth4, I have no
> idea why.
> So, when I modified /etc/network/interfaces and replaced
> eth0 with eth4,
> ifup eth4 now works.  This is the only ethernet card in the
> machine.
> 
> >...
> > And lspci -v shows this about it:
> > 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor
> Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
> >...
> > Kernel driver in use: 8139too
> > Kernel modules: 8139cp, 8139too
> 
> This I'm not getting.  I suppose the Etch version of
> lspci doesn't
> show this.
> 
> I have tested loading 8139too by itself and both 8139cp and
> 8139too.
> No errors but ping fails with "Destination Host
> Unreachable" in both
> cases.  Interestingly, the LED at the back of the card
> flashes and
> the LED at the network hub flashes, both when initiating
> the ping
> locally or remotely.
> 
> So it looks like the proper driver for this card is
> 8139too, but
> something is not quite right (tested on kernels 2.6.18,
> 2.6.24 and
> 2.6.26, all locally compiled)
> 
> > I have had no problems whatsoever with this card on
> >several different Linux distributions.
> 
> > I am more than willing to post any of my configs that
> >could be of help.
> 
> Any other hint as to why ping (or any other data transfer)
> doesn't work
> would be welcome.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> A.
> 
Networking has always proved sort of a "mystery" to me, and I have had my share 
of difficulties in the past. My worst difficulty was traced to the on-board nic 
in this machine, a Broadcom based interface, which would work intermittently, 
causing lots of grief. I believe it may be due to a cold or broken solder joint 
on the board. I considered trying to fix it, but rather than dismantling and 
risk damaging something, I simply disabled the on-board nic and went with the 
cardbus adapter.
This card has just worked for me, right out of the box. It got set up 
"magically" by Debian during install, and has been working seemlessly since. 
I have been using Debian for several months or so, and I must say that I am 
very impressed.

This list has a broad base of very knowledgeable users, (I'm not one of them 
though), so I am sure someone here can likely help you sort this out.

My /etc/network/interfaces loks like this:

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

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Re: PCI ethernet card from ebay doesn't work at all. Possibly fake, but which?

[Angus Auld]

> Subject: Re: PCI ethernet card from ebay doesn't work at all.  Possibly fake, 
> but which?
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 3:01 AM
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:47:12 -0500, A. F. Cano wrote:
> 
> > Any hints will be greatly
> > appreciated. Thanks.
> > 
> > A.
>
I have a cardbus adapter called "Zonet ZEN 1201 10/100 Mbps Fast Ethernet 
32-bit", which is actually a Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+. It was very 
inexpensive, but it works extremely well for me in my Dell Inspiron 1150 using 
Lenny.
It is identified thusly by lshw:
*-network
  description: Ethernet interface
  product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
  vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
  physical id: 1
  bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:03:00.0
  logical name: eth0
  version: 10
  serial: 00:00:b4:20:25:3c
  size: 100MB/s
  capacity: 100MB/s
  width: 32 bits
  clock: 33MHz
  capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 
10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
  configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too 
driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=full ip=192.168.2.2 latency=64 link=yes 
maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 module=8139too multicast=yes port=MII speed=100MB/s

And lspci -v shows this about it:
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RT8139
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
I/O ports at d000 [size=256]
Memory at f940 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: 8139too
Kernel modules: 8139cp, 8139too

I have had no problems whatsoever with this card on several different Linux 
distributions.

I am more than willing to post any of my configs that could be of help.

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Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux

[Angus Auld]

> From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 2:57 AM
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:39:41PM -0800, Angus Auld wrote:
> 
> > Of course you *could* use KDE, and that with a
> certainty would
> > facilitate your keeping Gnome at bay. :)
> 
> Yeah, maybe I'll install it and try it out. It's
> been very long ago
> that I tried it last time.
> 
> How do you use enlightenment as window manager with KDE?
> 
I'm not familiar with Enlightenment window manager, but I do have Fluxbox 
installed as an alternate wm, and it works fine w/KDE. I just choose Fluxbox 
from the kdm menu at login. I expect it would just be a matter of installing 
Enlightenment wm (e16 package et. al.) and choosing it at kdm login.
I can appreciate the advantages in the use of "lighter" window managers, but I 
am sort of hooked on all the "bells and whistles" I guess. :)

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Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux

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> From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 6:06 PM
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:04:07AM -0800, Angus Auld wrote:
> > > Well, I just tried it. I can turn off showing
> previews, but
> > > that
> > > doesn't mean that no thumbnails are created.
> > > 
> > > Still the dialog doesn't mention anything
> about
> > > creating and even
> > > caching thumbnails.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > KDE makes clearing thumbnail cache and such easy using
> KControl > Security & Privacy > Privacy.
> > Best regards.
> 
> So the solution is to install and use KDE to keep gnome at
> bay? That
> is like getting an 18wheeler or two to buy the grocieries
> for a week
> because the Suburban is a "Custom Delux" model
> which doesn't have
> automatic doorlocks ...
> 
> 
I made no such suggestion, merely replying to the "general" gist of the post:
"Erase cache, clean registry in Linux"

Some of us following this post do use KDE, and it does have an accumulating 
~/.thumbnails directory as well.

Of course you *could* use KDE, and that with a certainty would facilitate your 
keeping Gnome at bay. :)

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Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux

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> From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 8:41 AM
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:13:00AM +0100, Johan Grönqvist
> wrote:
> > lee skrev:
> >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:46:29PM -0800, Kelly
> Clowers wrote:
> >> Hm, that is not a fix, it's a poor workaround.
> And when I start
> >> nautilus and look at the preferences dialog, there
> is no mentioning of
> >> caching thumbnails whatsoever.
> >>
> >
> >
> > When I start nautilus and look at the preferences
> dialog, there is a tab  
> >  for previews, and included there are two settings
> related to thumbnails.
> >
> > Google found me a screenshot from opensuse 10.3 at  
> >
> 
> >
> >
> > You can set it to never show thumbnails, but I have
> not tried that.
> 
> Well, I just tried it. I can turn off showing previews, but
> that
> doesn't mean that no thumbnails are created.
> 
> Still the dialog doesn't mention anything about
> creating and even
> caching thumbnails.
> 
> 

KDE makes clearing thumbnail cache and such easy using KControl > Security & 
Privacy > Privacy.
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Re: no flash in opera after upgrade

[Angus Auld]

--- Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 May 2008 23:03:51 +0200
> Dexter Filmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Today I preferenced etch-backports and did a huge
> upgrade, so far all
> > fine but one thing: Opera 9.27 won't play flash
> anymore.
> > Iceweasel does, so th eplugin seems fine. Pathes
> and all appear
> > correct to me. Ran strace on Opera and searched
> the output for open
> > calls on flash, but nothing.
> > 
> > Ideas?
> 
> Yeah, it's a problem with Opera 9.27 and Adobe's
> latest Flash, which
> won't be resolved in the 9.2 versions of Opera.
> You'll have to do what
> I ended up doing, and move onto the betas of 9.5.
> Opera 9.5b2 is quite
> good and stable for me, and Flash works with it,
> too.
> 
> You'll find more info about this issue using the
> link below:
> 
>
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/search.dml?term=flash&id=26&x=0&y=0
> 
> You can find the 9.5b2 version here:
> 
> http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/next/
> 
> 
> Graham
If you would rather continue using Opera 9.27, you can
get archived flashplayers here:
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14266

Use the 9r48 version. I have found the easiest way to
do this is to ceate a ~/plugins folder and put
flashplayer there for Opera. Opera will usually find
it, but you will want to remove the pluginpath for the
newer version from Operas pluginpaths.

I am personally using Opera 9.50b2, and find it quite
acceptably stable, and latest flashplayer works ok
also.

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Re: listening to BBC

[Angus Auld]

--- Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 20 Apr 2008, Bob Cox wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 17:36:28 -0600, Bob Proulx
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 
> > 
> > > Richard Lyons wrote:
> > > > I suppose the BBC has changed its codec or
> something.  I used to be able
> > > > to play "Listen Again" programmes on the BBC
> site with their BBC Radio
> > > > Player, which opened in a separate
> Firefox/Iceweasel window.  Now it
> > > > just complains about a missing codec
> > > 
> > > Perhaps previously you were using a different
> system?  I don't think
> > > the BBC site has changed with regards to this
> part for a while.
> > > 
> > > > called, oddly, "cook".  Is there a debian
> package for this?  Or if
> > > > not is there some other way to hear the BBC in
> debian?
> > > 
> > > Not in US Debian due to US laws.  But it is
> available from the
> > > Marillat site outside of the US.  The
> information you need is here:
> > > 
> > >   http://debian-multimedia.org/
> > > 
> > > The mozilla-mplayer plugin will handle the file
> types that you need.
> > 
> It does, but I find not as well as Realplayer. The
> sound stream breaks
> briefly and there doesn't seem to be any way to
> change your place
> (fast-forward or backward).
> 
> Anthony
I listen to a lot of BBC Radio programming using
Realplayer(from Marillat) on lenny and have very
little problem here, in Canada. I use Opera and I have
configured in options to open .ram and .rm files with
RealPlayer, directly passing the web address to the
player. Works for me. ;)

I love the "beeb".

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Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal

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--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings,
> Would someone be able to advise me as to what is a
> safe method to add a fortune command to my .bashrc
> file so as to have fortune output in my terminal @
> login?
> I've googled this pretty extensively, and have found
> a
> few methods, but also warnings that certain
> processes
> can be broken by doing this.
> Any insights would be appreciated.
> TIA. Best regards.
> 
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[OT] How to add fortune output to terminal

[Angus Auld]

Greetings,
Would someone be able to advise me as to what is a
safe method to add a fortune command to my .bashrc
file so as to have fortune output in my terminal @
login?
I've googled this pretty extensively, and have found a
few methods, but also warnings that certain processes
can be broken by doing this.
Any insights would be appreciated.
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Re: An Mplayer question

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--- "Walt L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Greetings all
> 
> I used Mplayer on the SuSE(10) system I used to use
> to play mpg and avi movies. On my former system I
> merely 
> had to do the install it and it was ready to use. 
> Mplayer 
> on Debian (etch) seems to be broken.  What must I do
> 
> to get Mplayer working on Debian? It gives me to 
> following error:
> 
> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out
> (-vo) device
> 
> Any suggestions on how to correct this?
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards
> Walt L. Williams
Walt, if multimedia is important to your computing
experience, migrate to "Lenny". You will most likely
find things just "work better". I don't think
multimedia is what "Etch" is aimed at.

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Re: belkin wireless PCI card

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--- Alle Meije Wink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Since my computer moved inside my house, I rely on a
> Belkin "G+" 802.11g 
> Network card (that's all it says on the box).
> 
> Used as I am to debian just starting DHCP without a
> problem, I didn't 
> know what to do when the network did not appear.
> 
> Is this easy to add to my existing configuration?
> I'm hopeful because 
> when I installed Ubuntu (sort-of Debian) on an old
> 486-based laptop the 
> other day, wireless worked out of the box.
> 
> No idea where to start though?
> 
> Does anyone know a how-to, or just a program/script
> to make this work?
> 
> MAny thanks
> Alle Meije Wink
Here is a Debian Reference that has proved helpful to
me when configing a wireless.
(Scroll down about halfway and you will find wireless
info).

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html

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Re: (OT) Flashplayer observations w/Opera etc.

[Angus Auld]

--- Jean-Louis Crouzet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Angus Auld wrote:
> > This are just my observations and experiences with
> > Flash-player and Linux of late.
> > I use my browsers to view a lot of Flash vids, and
> the
> > fact that many websites are using (over-using?)
> Flash
> > animations, etc. makes it quite important, at
> least to
> > me, that my browser be Flash-friendly.
> > Adobe, in their wisdom, decided to only support
> gtk
> > browsers in their latest release, so that has left
> > Opera (my browser of choice), pretty much out in
> the
> > cold, at least for Opera 9.2x versions and
> earlier. 
> > Opera is trying to work around this in their
> 9.50Beta,
> > soon to be released.
> > However, I have noted, the latest version of
> > Flash-player does not seem to be playing well with
> > Iceweasel either.
> > It consistently causes Iceweasel to consume 80%+
> cpu
> > cycles when viewing Flash vids...sometimes upwards
> of
> > 100%!
> > To me this is unacceptable. I have downgraded to
> an
> > earlier version of the plugin (9.0 r48), and
> things
> > are a bit better in terms of cpu usage and
> > view-ability of videos.
> > 
> > Anyone else noting this may want to consider
> > downgrading Flash-player as well.
> > I have tried various installations of the plugin
> using
> > Adobe's tar.gz, and binary .deb installs, without
> any
> > improvement.
> > 
> > Best regards.
> > 
> You might have seen my memo with subject "Flash
> Player 9 (9,0,115,0) 
> with Iceweasel or Firefox (& even konqueror)" a bit
> above and also I 
> noticed the same type of CPU usage
> 
> JL
Yes Jean, we seem to be experiencing similar problems
with Flash Player 9,0,115,0.
I too have had lock-ups where killing Opera or
Iceweasel has been the only option. I am using
Dreamlinux, a Debian Etch based distro with xfce4
desktop.
As far as I'm concerned, on my system, Flash Player 9
in its latest version, is unusable.
I thought I would give Opera 9.50 Beta a go, and check
the performance of the latest Flash Player. Opera is
working to try to get around the "gtk browsers only
support" in there latest version. Well, it was not any
better...high cpu consumption and occasional browser
lockup.
This is disappointing. Disabling Flash would really
put a damper on my internet experience. :(

Using the older FP 9.0 r48 is getting me by, for the
time being at least. 

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(OT) Flashplayer observations w/Opera etc.

[Angus Auld]

This are just my observations and experiences with
Flash-player and Linux of late.
I use my browsers to view a lot of Flash vids, and the
fact that many websites are using (over-using?) Flash
animations, etc. makes it quite important, at least to
me, that my browser be Flash-friendly.
Adobe, in their wisdom, decided to only support gtk
browsers in their latest release, so that has left
Opera (my browser of choice), pretty much out in the
cold, at least for Opera 9.2x versions and earlier. 
Opera is trying to work around this in their 9.50Beta,
soon to be released.
However, I have noted, the latest version of
Flash-player does not seem to be playing well with
Iceweasel either.
It consistently causes Iceweasel to consume 80%+ cpu
cycles when viewing Flash vids...sometimes upwards of
100%!
To me this is unacceptable. I have downgraded to an
earlier version of the plugin (9.0 r48), and things
are a bit better in terms of cpu usage and
view-ability of videos.

Anyone else noting this may want to consider
downgrading Flash-player as well.
I have tried various installations of the plugin using
Adobe's tar.gz, and binary .deb installs, without any
improvement.

Best regards.

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Re: [OT] how to detect a dying hard drive

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--- Brian McKee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> On 26-Feb-08, at 5:18 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
> wrote:
> 
> > Is there any tool available in Debian which can
> tell the remaining  
> > life of a
> > hard drive? Also, what log files should one
> monitor to see if there is
> > something wrong with the hard drive? What are the
> various error  
> > messages I
> > should look out for?
> >
> > I checked the hard drive for badblocks and there
> are none. But  
> > somehow I
> > feel (cannot prove) that it is taking up a lot of
> time to write  
> > large files
> > than it did before. That is why I think the hard
> drive could be dying.
> >
> 
> smartmontools http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> will retrieve  
> smart info and
> can be helpful.   Also worth doing is checking the
> manufacturer's  
> website for a
> bootable cd image that will run non-destructive
> checks  (of course,  
> backup first anyway!)
> 
> I find if smart says it's bad, it's bad,  but the
> reverse is not  
> necessarily true.
> 
> Note modern drives automatically try to work around
> bad blocks once  
> they see them.
> You can 'fix' a drive by writing lots of data so
> that the problems  
> are seen by the drive hardware.
> Once it runs out of relocatable sectors though
> 
> HTH
> Brian
I am waiting for shipment of a new drive for my Dell
Inspiron, and the telltale signs of worry for me are
different sounds coming from the drive occasionally.
This indicator, albeit a simple one, has served me in
the past. 
Plus the fact that my current Hitachi drive is over 3
years old.
Can't wait to get my new Seagate Momentus. :)

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Re: bad symlinks

[Angus Auld]

--- "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 07:24:10AM -0800, Angus Auld
> wrote:
> > --- "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:23:40AM -0800, Angus
> Auld
> > > wrote:
> > > > Is it safe to delete any "bad symlinks" that I
> > > find on
> > >^^^
> > > > my Debian Etch system?
> > > > I used FSlint to search, and found several.
> > > 
> > > I wouldn't give a blanket guarantee.  If there
> are
> > > no bugs in Etch,
> > > there should be no bad symlinks.  So, give us a
> list
> > > of bad symlinks.
> > 
> > I have deleted some bad symlinks that I found in
> > /usr/bin, but here is a list of "dangling"
> symlinks as
> > found by FSlint in my /etc directory:
> > 
> > /etc/rc1.d/K20inetd
> > /etc/rc5.d/S20inetd
> > /etc/rc2.d/S20inetd
> > /etc/rc3.d/S20inetd
> > /etc/rc6.d/K20inetd
> > /etc/rc4.d/S20inetd
> > /etc/rc0.d/K20inetd
> Do you not have /etc/init.d/inetd?  Do you not have
> the package inetd
> installed?  If not, then check what package contains
> that file and see
> if you've ever installed it (check to see if it is
> not installed but was
> once and removed not purged).  It may just need
> purging.  If it is not
> instaled and purged then there's a bug somewhere. 
> Find it and report
> it.
I have a package called openbsd-inetd installed that
provides inetd.
> > /etc/rc2.d/S23ntp-server
> > /etc/rc3.d/S23ntp-server
> Ibid re ntp-server.
Can't get a lead on this one.
> 
> > /etc/motd
> You don't have an /etc/motd file?  What about
> /etc/motd.tail?
I have /etc/motd.tail.
> 
> > /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-debconf-no-bitmaps.conf
> Use apt-file and figure out what package put that
> there. 
Can't get a line on this either. 
> > /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.org.pem
> ibid.
> > Is there such a thing in the real world as
> computer
> > software w/o bugs?
> Of course not.  Nothing outside of pure physics is
> without bugs.  It
> keeps life interesting.
> 
> > Surely you are speaking in relative terms? ;)
> > 
> > My Debian Etch isn't a "pure" version either.
> Rather
> > it is a distribution called "Dreamlinux", which is
> > based on Deb Etch. It is kept up-to-date with Etch
> > repositories tho.
> 
> Well, then all bets are off re what we on
> debian-user can tell you about
> symlinks. What does the dreamlinux list have to say?
The Dreamlinux list has been helpful in the past, but
it is small as Dreamlinux is a relatively new dist,
with a small user base. I didn't inquire there about
this because it seemed more of a core issue to me, but
I may be wrong about that of course. 
Anything to do with the installer, or anything that
would seem specific to Dreamlinux, such as tools or
configs, I would direct to that list. 
I'm sorry if I have posted this here out of ignorance.
"Debian-user" has been very helpful and I appreciate
being able to inquire the experience and depth of this
list, and the Debian distribution. Dreamlinux appears
to be pretty much Debian Etch at heart, at least from
what I have learned from this list. This is my first
Debian based system, having used Mandrake/Mandriva for
several versions prior.
> 
> Doug.
Dreamlinux is a live-cd distribution that you can
install to harddrive, so these could be remnants of
the live-cd.
In that case, I have asked the wrong people. :)

Thanks for the reply.
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Re: bad symlinks

[Angus Auld]

--- "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:23:40AM -0800, Angus Auld
> wrote:
> > Is it safe to delete any "bad symlinks" that I
> find on
>^^^
> > my Debian Etch system?
> > I used FSlint to search, and found several.
> 
> 
> I wouldn't give a blanket guarantee.  If there are
> no bugs in Etch,
> there should be no bad symlinks.  So, give us a list
> of bad symlinks.
> 
> Doug.

I have deleted some bad symlinks that I found in
/usr/bin, but here is a list of "dangling" symlinks as
found by FSlint in my /etc directory:

/etc/rc1.d/K20inetd
/etc/rc5.d/S20inetd
/etc/motd
/etc/rc2.d/S20inetd
/etc/rc2.d/S23ntp-server
/etc/fonts/conf.d/30-debconf-no-bitmaps.conf
/etc/rc3.d/S20inetd
/etc/rc3.d/S23ntp-server
/etc/rc6.d/K20inetd
/etc/ssl/certs/cacert.org.pem
/etc/rc4.d/S20inetd
/etc/rc0.d/K20inetd

Is there such a thing in the real world as computer
software w/o bugs?
Surely you are speaking in relative terms? ;)

My Debian Etch isn't a "pure" version either. Rather
it is a distribution called "Dreamlinux", which is
based on Deb Etch. It is kept up-to-date with Etch
repositories tho.

Thanks for any and all feedback. 
Best regards.

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[Angus Auld]

Is it safe to delete any "bad symlinks" that I find on
my Debian Etch system?
I used FSlint to search, and found several.

TIA for any feedback.

Best regards.

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Re: Ice Weasel

[Angus Auld]

--- Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 06:00:05PM -0500, dick
> wrote:
> > What is it with Ice Weasel anyhow.  I have no
> problems signing onto Debian 
> > and using Icedove.  the rest of the processing
> goes well.
> >
> > However, when it comes to Iceweasel, it spends
> more time dropping out that 
> > it does working.  It will work for a couple of
> screens and then drops out.  
> 
> What do you mean by that?
> 
> > You can bring it back and it will work for a
> couple of screens and then 
> > drops again.  I know that there are a lot of
> things I can do with Debian 
> 
> How do you bring it back?
> 
> > and it will work great.  I also use Mepis which is
> based on Debian and have 
> > no problems with it at all.  However, Debian
> itself and Ice Weasel in 
> > particular make it almost not worth using Debian
> at all.
> 
> The typical suggestions for Iceweasel troubles:
> 
> - start from a terminal and check for error messages
> - start with the -safe-mode parameter (especially if
> you have 
>   extensions/plug-ins/whatever
> - (re)move your .mozilla folder
> - try from a different user account
> - try other browsers
> 
> > I am using Debian Sidux and have also tried Etch
> in the past and have had 
> > the same problems with them both.  I am using an
> Intel Duo Core 2 processor 
> > E4400.  Ubuntu, Mepis, BlueWhite64, Sabayon all
> work great and with no 
> > problems.  Debian sucks big time.
> 
> Whatever suits your needs ...
> 
> Regards,
> Andrei
Is your system up-to-date? Which version of Iceweasel
are you using? Have you tried newer/older versions?

You could give Opera a try. (my favorite ;)

The kind and knowledgable folks on this list will help
youbut be kind. Debian is a fine distribution,
but, as with any software, problems will arise.
Browser problems are frustrating thoI'm sure
everyone would agree. Usually you can sort this stuff
out...with patience.

Best regards...and I hope you find a solution.

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Re: reliable editting of any PDF file

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--- michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 15:27 -0800, Kelly Clowers
> wrote:
> > On Feb 12, 2008 1:49 PM, Micha
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, but for me for example it would be very
> useful if I could add notes to
> > > papers I download to reference in my work
> (academics, it's what you are
> > > supposed to do ;-). I don't have access to the
> originals (with pdf's you rarely
> > > do actually, people give you the pdf in the
> first place to make sure that you
> > > see it properly, not to edit it).
> > >
> > > I would have been happy if there was something
> that could do highlighting,
> > > notes, lines and really ecstatic if it could
> actually do equations ...
> > >
> > > thought of writing something like that once but
> never got the time to dig in.
> > 
> > Evince got form support in 2.20, and was
> originally supposed to get
> > annotation support at the same time.
> Unfortunately, that was pushed
> > back, and according  to the roadmap[1], it is now
> scheduled for 2.24
> > (due this fall).  In the meantime, I believe Adobe
> Reader supports
> > annotations and there is a native Linux version.
> > 
> 
> just tried to install Adobe Reader 7 from their web
> site
>
http://www.adobe.com/products/reader/productinfo/systemreqs/
> 
> but got errors when running Alien
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src$ sudo alien --scripts
>>snip>>

There is a .deb package available from Adobe here:

http://ardownload.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/8.x/8.1.2/enu/AdobeReader_enu-8.1.2-1.i386.deb

That will rid you of the alien errors at least.
HTH's.

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Re: gdm session chooser list

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--- Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > However, after trying to understand these configs,
> my
> > annoyance of the duplicates is now much less than
> my
> > annoyance at trying to eliminate them. Is it just
> me,
> > or does gdm seem a bit "over the top" when it
> comes to
> > configuration?
> > I never really took a liking to Gnomealways
> found
> > config to be a pain. I'm still feeling that way. I
> use
> > XFce primarily, and like it very much. My
> Dreamlinux
> > (Debian Etch) distribution does use some Gnome
> > processes however.
> > 
> > Best regards.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Hey Angus,
> 
> Yeah GDM seems like it is an overly complicated
> piece of software. But that is because it is heavily
> customizable and is used for a variety of purposes
> (remote login, safe mode, etc). There is another
> lightweight session chooser called xdm if I am not
> mistaken but it is not as "pretty" as gdm.
> 
> I guess if you don't need gdm you can choose to
> eliminate it from startup and have your X server
> automatically login to XFCE. I did this before and
> have the notes somewhere if you need it.
> 
> I myself don't use the GNOME window manager at all.
> I use a very lightweight WM called DWM
> (www.suckless.org/dwm). Amazing piece of software.
> Check it out. It takes a while to get used to but I
> find myself more productive now that I am using
> this.
> 
> Regards,
> Amit

Thanks for your feedback Amit, much appreciated. While
I probably don't *need* gdm, I like it's convenience.
The annoyance of there being duplicate entries for
sessions, as I mentioned is no big deal, really. 
I've read a bit about xdm, and I may give it a try.

I'm not familiar with DWM, but I do use Fluxbox quite
regularly as an alternative window manager. I like
trying different wm's, prevents boredom. :)

Thanks once againbest regards.

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Re: gdm session chooser list

[Angus Auld]

--- Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:55:13 -0800 (PST)
> Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I would like to ask whether someone could direct
> me to
> > the config file that manages the gdm chooser list
> at
> > login.
> > 
> > I seem to have duplicate entries since I installed
> > IceWM and Fluxbox. Previous I had been running
> Xfce as
> > desktop on my Debian Etch.
> > 
> > While this is no biggie, I would like to get rid
> of
> > the dup entries.
> > 
> > I have been searching configs to no avail. The
> file
> > that contains the session chooser list has eluded
> me
> > thus far.
> > 
> > Any help on this minor annoyance would be greatly
> appreciated.
> > 
> 
> Check out /usr/share/gdm/BuiltInSessions
> 
> I think that is what you are looking for.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Amit
> 
Thank you for the reply on this Amit. I checked out
the file you mentioned -
/usr/share/gdm/BuiltInSessions/Default System Session,
but that seems to contain only the words "Default
System Session" in a miriad of languages.
However, the file /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf likely
contains the info I need. I say likely, because the
file is huge (594 lines!), and to me cryptic at best.
At lines #'s 130 > 151 approximately, it seems that
gdm is accessing sessions info from three locations,
and two of those locations on my system contain the
same info (/usr/share/xsessions/, and
/var/lib/menu-xdg/xsessions/) - which are the session
choice entries that are appearing in duplicate, namely
- desktop config files: FluxBox, IceWM,
IceWM-Experimental, and XFwm.
The files /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf and
/etc/gdm/gdm.conf are the ones I have pinpointed as
being where I need to look to solve this. 
However, after trying to understand these configs, my
annoyance of the duplicates is now much less than my
annoyance at trying to eliminate them. Is it just me,
or does gdm seem a bit "over the top" when it comes to
configuration?
I never really took a liking to Gnomealways found
config to be a pain. I'm still feeling that way. I use
XFce primarily, and like it very much. My Dreamlinux
(Debian Etch) distribution does use some Gnome
processes however.

Best regards.


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gdm session chooser list

[Angus Auld]

I would like to ask whether someone could direct me to
the config file that manages the gdm chooser list at
login.

I seem to have duplicate entries since I installed
IceWM and Fluxbox. Previous I had been running Xfce as
desktop on my Debian Etch.

While this is no biggie, I would like to get rid of
the dup entries.

I have been searching configs to no avail. The file
that contains the session chooser list has eluded me
thus far.

Any help on this minor annoyance would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: How to set up a WLAN?

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--- Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 06:40:30AM -0800, Angus Auld
> wrote:
> > 
> > -- Angus
> > 
> > "All churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or
> Muslim, appear 
> > to me no other than human inventions, setup to
> terrify and 
> > enslave mankind - and to monopolize power and
> profit."
> > -- Thomas Paine (1737-1809)
> >
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I noticed your sig did not render correctly in my
> mailer. The deliniter
> for a sig is -- not --
> Compare yours with mine
> below.
> 
> So replace -- Angus with -- and stick
> Angus on the next
> line.
> 
> -- 
> Chris.

Thanks for that Chrisnoted and corrected.

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Re: Iceweasel problems - 3 of 3

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--- "Dennis G. Wicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, this is the third of the most aggravating
> problems.
> 
> Iceweasel will just "go to sleep". I have clicked on
> a
> link or pasted a url in the address bar and it is
> doing
> nothing. It displays "STOPPED" in the status bar and
> will not load any pages, either i'net or local
> network.
> 
> The system monitor and "top" don't show that there
> is
> anything in particular going on and other apps have
> a
> good, quick response.
> 
> Time cures the problem. Generally after "a while"
> something breaks loose and it sort of catches up and
> things work.
> 
> I have the cache disabled. It doesn't seem to make
> any
> difference one way or the other.
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Dennis
This may not be too helpful, but I have noted similar
behaviour, and not only with Iceweasel, but sometimes
Opera will do a "frozen" thing once in a while too.
It seems to be flash related, I think. When they
decide to take a rest, as it were, seems invariably on
a page that is flash intensive. Flash doesn't seem to
want to play fair with Linux, for some reason. I also
notice that flash videos or animations seem to consume
a lot of cpu cycles, with Iceweasel or Opera.

This can be a real pain, because a lot of websites are
very flash intensive nowadays.

Starting your browser with "-- debug plugins" enabled
could be enlightening here. I'm unsure how to do that
with Iceweasel, but with Opera an "opera -- debug
plugins" should do it. If I can remember to start my
browser thusly, I will report back further if I note
anything on this rendom "freeze".

Regards.

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Re: How to set up a WLAN?

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--- Daniel Haude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 06:40:30AM -0800, Angus Auld
> wrote:
> 
> > I don't have any rt-2xxx or rt-25xx packages
> > installed, so support 
> > must be compiled in the kernel(?).
> 
> Those are just the modules. Can you do a lsmod |
> grep rt to see which one
> you've actually loaded?
> 
> wifi-radar doesn't work either. It's always
> "Interface doesn't allow
> scanning".
> 
> --D.
Yes, it looks like I have the module loaded.
"lsmod | grep rt" yields:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod | grep rt
rt2500170212  1
agpgart26572  3 drm,intel_agp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Hope this can give you some insight. Let me know if 
there is any configs here that may prove useful.
I'm not too Debian literate (or, perhaps in general
either), 
but I can stumble around a little.

Regards.

 


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Re: How to set up a WLAN?

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--- Daniel Haude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> this message is all the more strange since I had
> wireless up and running
> with Debian once. But that system got hosed about a
> year ago for some reason
> or another, and now I've got it set up again and I'm
> completely stumped with
> the WLAN thingy.
> 
> $ lsusb
> Bus 005 Device 003: ID 2001:3c00 D-Link Corp. [hex]
> DWL-G122 802.11g rev. B1
> [ralink]
> 
> OK, this is a Ralink RT2500 chipset. I've built the
> rt2500usb module and
> loaded it. ifconfig wlan0 up worked.
> 
> I'd like to connect to the public network that's set
> up around the campus.
> What do I have to do to make it happen? Everybody
> else's Windoze and Mac laptop
> simply connects to whatever network it happens to
> find.
> 
> There is a utility with the promising name "iwspy",
> but that tells me:
> 
>   wlan1 Interface doesn't support wireless statistic
> collection
> 
> Don't know what that means except that it doesn't
> work.
> 
> There are two Debian packages for this chipset:
> rt2500-source and
> rt2x00-source. They provide different modules, but
> neither really seem to
> work.
> 
> I do remember using some tools when I had this set
> up about a year ago that
> listed all networks in the vicinity, and dumped
> screen upon screen of
> network traffic. After an afternoon of playing with
> this stuff, straight
> from Debian stable packages. Now I've been trying
> this for three days and
> I'm not getting anywhere. Am I getting too old?
> 
> Thanks,
> --D.
Daniel, I have a ralink wireless card (rt-2500
chipset), and it works great for me on Debian Etch.
Try installing "wifi-radar". It is a handy little
prog.
I don't have any rt-2xxx or rt-25xx packages
installed, so support 
must be compiled in the kernel(?).

Oh, and I am using 2.6.18.1-kanotix-1 kernel, but I'm
not sure if the 
kanotix version has any special modules built-in.

HTH's some.

Best regards.



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Re: kernel versus broadcom wlan

[Angus Auld]

--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have got the Broadcom WLAN Chip BCM943111MCG in my
> PC.
> "b43-fwcutter" installed some firmware.
> But it works in Debian SID with ndiswrapper only so
> far.
> But, you know, ndiswrapper imports parts of WINDOWS
> into Debian. I don't 
> want that.
Ndiswrapper doesn't really import part of windows into
Debian, 
rather it just uses the software driver which is
provided for ms, 
but not for us Linux users. 
Until hardware manufacturers get their heads out of
Bill Gates butt, we'll have to do the best we can. ;)

It is getting better.

Regards.

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Re: mscompress

[Angus Auld]

--- Nyizsnyik Ferenc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:17:23 -0800
> "David Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 1/25/08, Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Way above my head, but interesting just the
> same. I
> > > just
> > > sort of wanted to know how to use mscompress to
> > > de-compress
> > 
> > Angus:
> > 
> > I think you'll find that ordinary unzip or 7zip
> can do that for you.
> > There basically are two kinds of compressed
> executables
> > 
> > 1) the executable archive, basically a zip file
> with a little bit of
> > program code that basically says to "unzip me".
> These files are far
> > more common, and handle very well on Linux.
> > 
> > 2) the "expand" type compressed exes. These are
> distinct because they
> > all have a trailing _ as part of their name, and
> only seems to be
> > common on Windows installation media, to save
> space on the disks. I
> > don't think there is a tool that will handle this
> natively on Linux.
> > 
> 
> Actually mscompress and msexpand were made to handle
> this type of files.
> 
> -- 
> Szia:
>   Nyizsa.

That is what the sparse description, and the even
sparser documentation would indicate, at least to me
it did. :)

I have tried unzip, and it will not handle exe's. I
have not tried 
7zip, since I do not have that prog installed, but
documentation 
indicates that it will not either.

I will not trouble the list any further on this issue.


Thanks to all who responded.
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Re: mscompress

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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>snip>>
> > I found this listed as homepage of mscompress from
> > freshmeat.net:
> >
> > http://martin.hinner.info/mscompress/
> >
> > But, there is little info of help there either.
> > Mysterious.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> > Regards.
> >
> > -- Angus
> >
> Angus
> To find out how the mscompress works google LZ77 or
> merely Lempel-Ziv
> compression (this is the Lempel-Ziv compression
> algorithm-it has been used
> in multiple compression schemes since it is in the
> public domain)
> Larry

Thanks Larry. I tried googling as per your suggestion,
and, 
wowheavy duty geek-speak! :)

Way above my head, but interesting just the same. I
just 
sort of wanted to know how to use mscompress to
de-compress 
an exe.
Sort of like driving the car without knowing exactly
how every 
part functions. ;)

Here's a cool animation of the Lempel-Ziv encoding
algorithm 
doing it's thing:

http://www.data-compression.com/lempelziv.html

I guess maybe, to quote a very wise fox, "those grapes
are 
probably much too sour anyway".

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Re: Weird email behavior (was Re: mscompress)

[Angus Auld]

--- Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 01/25/08 09:48, Angus Auld wrote:
> > --- Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 01/25/08 08:26, Angus Auld wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> Angus,
> >>
> >> Do you add a
> >> ">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>" as
> an
> >> email separator?
> >>
> >> - --
> >> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> >> Jefferson LA  USA
> > __
> > I do tend to do that Ron. Is it causing some sort
> of
> > difficulty?
> > I just ran a line on this one. :)
> > 
> > I thought it would draw a clearer focus to where
> the
> > reply begins.
> > If this is causing any trouble, which is contrary
> to
> > what my intentions were, I will refrain from the
> > separator.
> 
> Ah, that's much better!  But the "" is
> un-necessary since
> there's already a standard method for handling this.
> 
> - --
> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson LA  USA

I agree, it is unnecessary. For some reason I got into

the habit of doing it, can't remember when.
May have been due to the behaviour of a web mailer, 
or some such.

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Re: Weird email behavior (was Re: mscompress)

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--- Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 01/25/08 08:26, Angus Auld wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> Angus,
> 
> Do you add a
> ">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>" as an
> email separator?
> 
> - --
> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson LA  USA
__
I do tend to do that Ron. Is it causing some sort of
difficulty?
I just ran a line on this one. :)

I thought it would draw a clearer focus to where the
reply begins.
If this is causing any trouble, which is contrary to
what my intentions were, I will refrain from the
separator.

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Re: mscompress

[Angus Auld]

--- Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu January 24 2008, Angus Auld wrote:
> > I found this listed as homepage of mscompress from
> > freshmeat.net:
> >
> > http://martin.hinner.info/mscompress/
> >
> > But, there is little info of help there either.
> > Mysterious.
> 
> since this is about a Microsoft product, I think it
> should be taken off-list..
> Microsoft install CDs for win95, win98 and Windows
> XP has an install folder. 
> Inside that folder are all the executables to create
> that OS version. I 
> forget which executable starts the install,
> something like win32nt.exe . All 
> the rest of the executables in that folder are
> compressed using mscompress, 
> and the files start with the "_" underbar, like
> _format.exe ..
> to get them to fit on the CD they had to be
> compressed.. they are just single 
> files compressed separately, as opposed to a tar or
> ZIP file that compresses 
> multiple files at once.. I have no clue why they did
> it.
> I hope this helps a little, take care!
>  
> 
> -- 
> Paul Cartwright
> Registered Linux user # 367800
> Registered Ubuntu User #12459
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Well, mscompress is not a Microsoft product. I
installed 
it on my Etch system w/apt-get from standard stable 
repositories. I wouldn't have thought this to be OT,
or 
in need of being taken off list.
It is described as "Microsoft
"compress.exe/expand.exe" compatible (de)compressor".

Thank you for your time and help on this Paul.
Much appreciated.

Best regards. 


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Re: mscompress

[Angus Auld]

--- Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu January 24 2008, Angus Auld wrote:
> > Thanks for your reply Paul. So, if I understand, a
> > windows binary
> > installation package .exe isn't like a nix binary
> like
> > .deb or .rpm?
> 
> not exactly. look for the homepage, maybe it
> explains better:
> 
> MsCompress for Windows
> 
> MsCompress: compress data using LZ77 algorithm
> Version
> 
> 0.3
> Description
> 
> MsCompress is a Microsoft "compress.exe/expand.exe"
> compatible (de)compressor. 
> This package contains two programs:
> 
> * msexpand, which decompresses files compressed
> by Microsoft compress.exe 
> utility (e.g. Win 3.x installation files)
> * mscompress, which compresses files using LZ77
> compression algorithm. 
> Output files can be decompressed using Microsoft
> expand.exe or msexpand(1).
> 
> Homepage
> 
> ftp://ftp.penguin.cz/pub/users/mhi/mscompress
> 
> 
> > I thought it was, well sort of anyway.
> > What exactly is mscompress/msexpand supposed to
> do?
> >
> > I want to extract some icons from an
> MSN_Messenger.exe
> >
> > binary package. Is there no way to do that?
> 
> no, you don't extract icons from an EXE. try google:
> icons msn messenger
> I got this site ( for one):
> 
> http://www.msnicon.com/
> 
> it has 3,000 icons
> >
> > Sorry if I have misunderstood.
> 
> no need to be sorry, we are all learning here!
> 
> 
> -- 
> Paul Cartwright
> Registered Linux user # 367800
> Registered Ubuntu User #12459
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks Paul for the help. I sort of wanted to look
inside of an exe, 
as I am rather curious about such things. I thought
maybe I could 
find some nice icons while in there.

Thanks for the link to the site as well. It should
more than satisfy 
may iconic (?) needs.

I can't seem to find very much info about mscompress,
and what 
it does or how to use it. That seems strange to me. 
I have searched quite a bit, but remain in the dark
more or less 
about it.
The link you provided to the mscompress homepage is
requiring 
login. I tried as "guest", but it was no go.
I found this listed as homepage of mscompress from
freshmeat.net:

http://martin.hinner.info/mscompress/

But, there is little info of help there either.
Mysterious.

Thanks again.
Regards.

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Re: mscompress

[Angus Auld]

--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> --- Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu January 24 2008, Angus Auld wrote:
> > > Whenever I run "msexpand *.exe" I get the
> > following
> > > response:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/expand$ msexpand
> > > Install_Messenger.exe
> > > Install_Messenger.exe: Doesn't end with
> underscore
> > --
> > > ignored
> > 
> > a _file.exe is a compressed exe that is usually
> > found an an install CD, like a 
> > windows XP install CDROM. It is not a ZIP file,
> full
> > of other compressed 
> > files.
> >  so you would run uncompress _file.exe and end up
> > with file.exe
> > 
> > -- 
> > Paul Cartwright
> > Registered Linux user # 367800
> > Registered Ubuntu User #12459
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Thanks for your reply Paul. So, if I understand, a
> windows binary
> installation package .exe isn't like a nix binary
> like
> .deb or .rpm?
> I thought it was, well sort of anyway.
> What exactly is mscompress/msexpand supposed to do?
> 
> I want to extract some icons from an
> MSN_Messenger.exe
> 
> binary package. Is there no way to do that?
> 
> Sorry if I have misunderstood.
> 
> Best regards. 
> 
> 
> -- Angus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I forgot to mention in my last reply that "uncompress
*.exe"
didn't work either.
Uncompress returns "unknown suffix -- ignored"

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Re: mscompress

[Angus Auld]

--- Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu January 24 2008, Angus Auld wrote:
> > Whenever I run "msexpand *.exe" I get the
> following
> > response:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/expand$ msexpand
> > Install_Messenger.exe
> > Install_Messenger.exe: Doesn't end with underscore
> --
> > ignored
> 
> a _file.exe is a compressed exe that is usually
> found an an install CD, like a 
> windows XP install CDROM. It is not a ZIP file, full
> of other compressed 
> files.
>  so you would run uncompress _file.exe and end up
> with file.exe
> 
> -- 
> Paul Cartwright
> Registered Linux user # 367800
> Registered Ubuntu User #12459
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks for your reply Paul. So, if I understand, a
windows binary
installation package .exe isn't like a nix binary like
.deb or .rpm?
I thought it was, well sort of anyway.
What exactly is mscompress/msexpand supposed to do?

I want to extract some icons from an MSN_Messenger.exe

binary package. Is there no way to do that?

Sorry if I have misunderstood.

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mscompress

[Angus Auld]

Anyone here familiar with this program (mscompress)?
It allows one to either expand (msexpand) or compress 
(mscompress) from or to ms .exe.

I am wanting to expand an ms .exe to extract some
files, and I 
can't figure out what the message I'm getting from
msexpand 
means exactly.

Whenever I run "msexpand *.exe" I get the following
response:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/expand$ msexpand
Install_Messenger.exe
Install_Messenger.exe: Doesn't end with underscore --
ignored
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/expand$

I tried sudo, same output.

Google has not thus far been my friend, and, "man
mscompress"
offers little help in return.

Anyone know what this means?

TIA for any feedback.

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Fwd: Re: /var/archive

[Angus Auld]

--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:22:38 -0800 (PST)
> From: Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: /var/archive
> To: Tony van der Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> --- Tony van der Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've just moved to Debian Etch from 10 years on
> > Mandriva, so a bit of a
> > newbie here.
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me what significance /var/archives
> > has? I have a 1.25 GB
> > /var partition, which always used to be plenty,
> but
> > archives is now eating
> > up 1.05 GB, so I'll have to move (or preferably
> > delete) it.
> > 
> > Any advice, please?
> > 
> > Cheers, Tony
> > -- 
> > Tony van der Hoff|
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Buckinghamshire, England 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 You can config your package manager to delete
 packages after downloading and installing.
 I am new to Debian as well, also after many years of
 using Mandrake/Mandriva. 
 Debian must be configed by default to store packages
 after downloading/installing. 
 I use apt-get/synaptic, and find it to be 
 a very easy to use and robust manager. In the
 preferences you 
 can config to delete after the download/install.
 
 I am using a Debian Etch based distro called
 Dreamlinux, and 
 I am thus far very impressed with the stability and
 power that Debian offers. 
 
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Re: Creating CD's frpm .iso files

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--- Robert Hodgins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > I am trying to use the "InfraRecorder" program
> that I downloaded from
> > the Ubuntu web site.
> 
> I've used CdBurnerXP Pro with no problems:
> http://cdburnerxp.se/
>>
Are you trying to burn the iso's under Linux, or ms?
If under ms, I would think that the native ms burning
program (?) 
should be able to accomplish that task.

If under Linux, there are many capable programs, the 
one to use depending on your desktop environment and 
preference or choice of course.

I welcome you to the Linux community. :) 
Best regards. 
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Re: problems after latest etch3 xserver upgrade

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--- Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Upgrade again.  It's fixed now.
> 
> For details eee my post entitled "Update: Re: GTK
> update problems."
> The fix made into the archives yesterday.
> 
> Angus Auld wrote:
> > Greetings, I had no apparent problems with the
> > xserver-xorg-core/xnest upgrade from
> 2:1.1.1-21etch1 >
> > 2:1.1.1-21etch2, but with the latest upgrade to
> > 2:1.1.1-21etch3 I have noted that I am no longer
> able
> > to use vlc media player. I got "BadAlloc" error.
> > I forced a downgrade to the 2:1.1.1-21etch1 (why
> > wasn't I given an option to downgrade to the
> etch2? It
> > isn't shown at all).
> > Alas, vlc still refuses to run and I get the
> > "BadAlloc" error.
> > I haven't noticed any other anomolies besides with
> > vlc.
> > 
> > How can I get my vlc back?
> > Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
> > TIA.
> > 
> > 
> > -- Angus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It was with the latest xserver-xorg-core etch3 that my
problem appeared.
I didn't notice anything amiss previous on my system.
I am sticking with the older version.


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Re: problems after latest etch3 xserver upgrade (*fixed*)

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--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings, I had no apparent problems with the
> xserver-xorg-core/xnest upgrade from 2:1.1.1-21etch1
> >
> 2:1.1.1-21etch2, but with the latest upgrade to
> 2:1.1.1-21etch3 I have noted that I am no longer
> able
> to use vlc media player. I got "BadAlloc" error.
> I forced a downgrade to the 2:1.1.1-21etch1 (why
> wasn't I given an option to downgrade to the etch2?
> It
> isn't shown at all).
> Alas, vlc still refuses to run and I get the
> "BadAlloc" error.
> I haven't noticed any other anomolies besides with
> vlc.
> 
> How can I get my vlc back?
> Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
> TIA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Problem "solved". 
Logout/login had no effect, but reboot has gotten vlc
back for me.
:)
I have locked both "xserver-xorg-core" and "xnest" at
current etch1 
versions for the time being.

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[Angus Auld]

Greetings, I had no apparent problems with the
xserver-xorg-core/xnest upgrade from 2:1.1.1-21etch1 >
2:1.1.1-21etch2, but with the latest upgrade to
2:1.1.1-21etch3 I have noted that I am no longer able
to use vlc media player. I got "BadAlloc" error.
I forced a downgrade to the 2:1.1.1-21etch1 (why
wasn't I given an option to downgrade to the etch2? It
isn't shown at all).
Alas, vlc still refuses to run and I get the
"BadAlloc" error.
I haven't noticed any other anomolies besides with
vlc.

How can I get my vlc back?
Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
TIA.


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Re: tcl8.5 & tk8.5

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--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a way to install the latest and greatest of
> these programs, and there dev counterparts in Etch?
> 
> Is there a way to build them for Etch?
> 
> The latest pkgs are 8.5_8.5.0-2.
> 
> I pretty wet behind the ears in Debianonly using
> for a few months.
> 
> TIA.
> 
> -- Angus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
Some "homework" on my part, which I should have done
in the first 
place, has revealed that "apt-build" should do what I
am asking.

I have subsequently installed this program, and am
endeavoring 
to understand how to use same.

It looks like RTFM to me. ;)

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--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a way to install the latest and greatest of
> these programs, and there dev counterparts in Etch?
> 
> Is there a way to build them for Etch?
> 
> The latest pkgs are 8.5_8.5.0-2.
> 
> I pretty wet behind the ears in Debianonly using
> for a few months.
> 
> TIA.
> 
> -- Angus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
Some "homework" on my part, which I should have done
in the first 
place, has revealed that "apt-build" should do what I
am asking.

I have subsequently installed this program, and am
endeavoring 
to understand how to use same.

It looks like RTFM to me. ;)

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tcl8.5 & tk8.5

[Angus Auld]

Is there a way to install the latest and greatest of
these programs, and there dev counterparts in Etch?

Is there a way to build them for Etch?

The latest pkgs are 8.5_8.5.0-2.

I pretty wet behind the ears in Debianonly using
for a few months.

TIA.

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Re: Goodbye

[Angus Auld]

--- Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > On 10/01/2008, Michelle Konzack
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Am 2008-01-08 08:09:58, schrieb Joel Roberts:
> >>> I've gotten a lot of good information from this
> list, and hopefully
> >>> supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed
> through hundreds of
> >>> spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer.
> If the list organizers
> >>> can implement some anti-spam measures, I'll be
> happy to join again in
> >>> the future. There's no reason for this quantity
> of spam to be making it
> >>> through on a mailing list.
> >>>
> >> - END OF REPLIED MESSAGE
> -
> >>
> >> Sorry, but if the "list organizers" shutdown the
> spamfilters, you would
> >> not stay longer as 5 minutes in this list 
> :-)
> >>
> >> I have gotten over 5 million SPAM between
> 2007-12-17 and 2008-01-05 and
> >> only arround 800 coming through...
> >>
> >> I do not asume you have goten the same amount of
> spam, maybe not even
> >> 5000 so you have gotten around 1 spam in this
> time if you would use a
> >> spamfilter on your system...
> > 
> > I get about 700-1100 spams a day. Spamassasin on
> the server only
> > trickles 10-30 of those through a day (lately
> more, I've have to look
> > into that). Thunderbird sorts all of those. I get
> about two or three
> > false negatives (spam getting through) a day.
> > 
> > I go through both Spamassasin's and Tbirds spams,
> and I get about 1
> > false positive every two weeks, often less. And
> those are usually
> > too-spammy newsletters. None of my personal
> contacts has hit a false
> > positive in months.
> > 
> > That said, for mailing lists, I use Gmail. Great
> interface and spam filtering.
> > 
> 
> Second that. Gmail very rarely let's any spam
> through and I don't have 
> to set up or install anything. Thanks Google.
> 
> Hugo
>
Yahoo! Mail with SpamGuard seems to be doing a good 
job here.
I am one of the fortunate one's though in that I don't
receive 
a lot of spam.
I don't feel left out in the least on that regard. ;)

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Re: OT: Flash memory

[Angus Auld]

--- Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 01/11/08 18:15, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> [snip]
> > 
> > As the sub-atomic particles that maintain the
> charge that represent the
> > bits on the outside edge are moving faster than
> those on the inside
> > edge, they will have less mass and therefore are
> easier to move
> > "uphill".  Also, they will move faster still as
> they move "uphill"
> > (orbital mechanics, twirling figure-skater, etc)
> and become yet less
> 
> Conservation of Angular Momentum and every guy with
> a wife who's 
> made him sit thru TV figure skating knows that the
> girl speeds up as 
> she draws her arms in, and slows down as her arms
> extend.
> 
> > massive.  
> > 
> > Interestingly, as particles approach c, they loose
> mass, and you could
> > say they become "lighter" as they turn into
> photons
> 
> ?
> 
> Particles *gain* mass.  That's why you can never
> accelerate to c.
> 
> > Now all we need is the Quark drive.  Turning it on
> would by "up spin".
> > Strange.
> 
> -- 
> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson LA  USA

Great physics lesson guys..I'm suitably
*impressed*.
Love this list. :)

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Re: Autostart programs: How to remove them?

[Angus Auld]

--- Dan H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> it's still me and my GNOME desktop. One thing that
> irritates me: I once installed a Google desktop
> indexing tool, which now starts up every time I
> start GNOME. I tried to disable it, but it doesn't
> work. When I go to Desktop->Preferences->Sessions
> and then delete it from the list of "Startup
> Programs" (where it is the only entry), it always
> re-appears there. How can I disable it for good?
> Where does GNOME store its information about
> programs to launch at startup?
> 
> --D.
>>
Dan, I'm not sure if this will apply to you, since I
am using 
XFCE (never did like Gnome).
But check to see if you have a ~/.config folder. In
that folder 
there is a folder "autostart", and in it are programs
to be started 
at login.

HTHs. Best regards.

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Fwd: Re: Galeon R.I.P?(resent to list, sorry hal)

[Angus Auld]

--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:58:54 -0800 (PST)
> From: Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Galeon R.I.P?
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> --- Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, David Brodbeck
> wrote:
> > > On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:45 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > >
> > > > On 01/02/08 08:20, s. keeling wrote:
> > > >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >> Says you.  I think you should spend the next
> > year in a Cat in the
> > > >> Hat suit, but I doubt you'll comply.
> > > >
> > > > He wears furry bear suits.  Why not furry cat
> > suits?
> > >
> > > "So what are you telling us, Lister?  That
> you're
> > a closet squirrel?
> > > Behind closed doors you parade up and down with
> a
> > strap-on bushy
> > > tail, calling yourself Nutkin?" -- Rimmer, Red
> > Dwarf
> > 
> > That's very nice, Mr. Flibble, now, please get
> back
> > in the quarantine 
> > chamber with your holographic buddy, Arnold, and
> his
> > bronze swimming 
> > certificate.
> > 
> > Hal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> I am new on this list, and also to Debian, but not
> to
> Linux, which I 
> have been using for several years now.
> I'm not familiar with the flow of things here on
> this
> list, but I hope 
> no one is offended if I am amused by these sort of
> communications.
> Linux is sure a great basis for discerning folks to
> come together 
> and interface.I really love Linux. :)
> Open source rules as far as I am concerned, but, I
> do
> no more than use and appreciate it's benefits.
> I have much to learn about the *real world*
> implications.
> 
> I am just thankful to be able to thumb my nose at
> Bill
> Gates et. al., and enjoy my computer.
> 
> Thanks Linux!
> 
> Best regards, and a happy new year to all.
> 
> 
> -- Angus
> 
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Re: Galeon R.I.P?

[Angus Auld]

--- ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Angus Auld wrote:
> > --- ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >>> big snip>>
> >>Just played with Opera for a while.  I was
> >> impressed.  Not afraid to 
> >> pay $ for it if it can hold up to everyday usage
> >> (heck, considering how 
> >> much $ I **don't** pay for software, dropping a
> few
> >> bucks here and there 
> >> for a program worth it feels good...).
> >>
> >>Now I just have to make sure it handles .pdf
> stuff
> >> right (work 
> >> requirement).
> > Pay for it??? Opera doesn't ask for money
> > anymoreunless 
> > you wish to donate to their cause.
> > Considering how they have been pushing back
> against
> > ms's 
> > BS, maybe we should all donate. ;)
> > 
> > I really like Opera, and inspite of some
> difficulties
> > having to do 
> > with plugins, I haven't found a browser that I am
> as
> > satisfied 
> > with as theirs. The Wand feature is a real winner
> for
> > me, as well 
> > as Speed Dial.
> > If you are adventureous, and want to try Opera
> beta
> > releases, 
> > go here:
> > 
> > http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
> > 
> > Opera 9.50 promises to be even better. :)
> > 
> > Like I said, I really like Opera.
> 
> 
>   Heh, been out of the 'latest-greatest' game for a
> while.  I guess I 
> still thought Opera was a 'for pay' proposition. 
> Imagine my surprise 
> when I didn't see any ads and/or a shareware notice
> come up while 
> playing with it.
> 
>   I'm setting it up as my new browser now--a long
> term project as I have 
> decided that I won't import my bookmarks (8+ years
> of bookmarking has 
> left my bookmarks, well, bloated.  I google
> everything now anyway...) 
> and will just transfer sites/passwords as necessary.
> 
>   Dumb question, if I want a folder of bookmarks on
> my personal toolbar, 
> can I change the icon from a folder to something
> else?  If so, how?  I 
> couldn't find how to do it yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think you can make the change you desire, if I
understand your 
question correctly.
Opera's bookmarks file can be found
~/.opera/opera6.adr.
You should be able to modify that file to suit your
needs.
I'm glad you find Opera worth your attention.
They have an Opera Linux mailing list that has proved
helpful 
in my experience, and I feel the Opera team works hard
to make 
their browser a quality Linux, and, cross platform
browser.

The mailing list info, and a link to the list
archives, can be found here:
https://list.opera.com/mailman/listinfo/opera-linux 

HTHs.

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Re: Galeon R.I.P?

[Angus Auld]

--- ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>big snip>>
>   Just played with Opera for a while.  I was
> impressed.  Not afraid to 
> pay $ for it if it can hold up to everyday usage
> (heck, considering how 
> much $ I **don't** pay for software, dropping a few
> bucks here and there 
> for a program worth it feels good...).
> 
>   Now I just have to make sure it handles .pdf stuff
> right (work 
> requirement).

Pay for it??? Opera doesn't ask for money
anymoreunless 
you wish to donate to their cause.
Considering how they have been pushing back against
ms's 
BS, maybe we should all donate. ;)

I really like Opera, and inspite of some difficulties
having to do 
with plugins, I haven't found a browser that I am as
satisfied 
with as theirs. The Wand feature is a real winner for
me, as well 
as Speed Dial.
If you are adventureous, and want to try Opera beta
releases, 
go here:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

Opera 9.50 promises to be even better. :)

Like I said, I really like Opera.


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Re: wine - resource hog

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--- David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> joseph lockhart wrote:
> > ok, here is my system info, basically the hardinfo
> > report generated by Hardinfo for my primary
> partition,
> > if i switch over to my etch install i will post
> the
> > same for it if necessary
> > 
> > Computer
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Summary
> > ---
> > 
> > -Computer-
> > Processor   : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.60GHz
> > Memory  : 247MB (217MB used)
> 
> If you are going to be running translators/emulators
> on top - 
> /definitely/ more ram. At least 1G.
> That's why it runs slowly.
> Regards,
> -- 
> David Palmer
> Linux User - #352034
>>>
Indeed, 256MB of ram is inadequate for a system doing
most anything these days.
It's unlikely anything would work properly at all.
There must be a lot of thrashing of the hd trying to
swap anything but the most basic functions.
More ram is necessary, and the price is well worth it.
 


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Re: Galeon R.I.P?

[Angus Auld]

--- Allan Wind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2007-12-29T10:50:18-0600, ZephyrQ wrote:
> > Tabs...on the -right- hand side.  After using
> Galeon for **years**, I 
> > miss this and the 'tab' plug-in only lets me put
> tabs on the 
> > top/bottom/left.
> 
> Did you try the Tab Control add-on?
> 
> > Quickloading of pages.  I don't know if this is a
> Galeon thing, but side 
> > by side with IceWeasel Galeon loads pages *much*
> faster.
> 
> Have you tried the FasterFox add-on?  There are also
> additional 
> about:config tuning steps that will increase the
> perceived loading of 
> pages
> (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=53650
> may be a good 
> starting point for further web searches).
> 
> 
> /Allan
>
You could give Swiftfox a try. It's billed as
"optimized Mozilla Firefox build for Linux".

http://getswiftfox.com/

It does seem pretty fast.
Personally, I use Opera, and it's been my browser of
choice for many moons.



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Re: [OT] Yeah for Opera!

[Angus Auld]

--- Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSL1337269720071213
> 
> Hugo
>
This is great.the bully is being confronted by a
little guy who's 
tired of being pushed around. I love it! ;)
MS users should be on Opera's side in this too. Some
MS 
users I have talked to aren't even aware of what a web
browser is, 
they are so locked in to IE. And what a bloated POS IE
is.

Kudos to Opera! I hope they win this.


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Re: Download Opera brower package

[Angus Auld]

--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> --- hce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Mark.
> > 
> > That works fine. The only thing when I call the
> > opera from the command
> > line, it has following errors although it still
> > works. Should I
> > concern that error messages or not?
> > 
> > 
> > ~$ opera
> > ~$ ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from
> LD_PRELOAD
> > cannot be
> > preloaded: ignored.
> > ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD
> > cannot be preloaded: ignored.
> > ** Message: plugin_get_value 1 (1)
> > 
> > ** Message: plugin_get_value 2 (2)
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > Kind Regards,
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > On 12/4/07, Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > On Mon,  3 Dec 2007 11:29:22 + (UTC)
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I tried to install Opera brower packge from
> the
> > apt-get install, but
> > > > could not find the package? What am I missing?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > Just add the following to your
> > /etc/apt/sources.list, update, and then
> > > you'll be able to install opera.
> > >
> > > deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ etch non-free
> > >
> > > Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> The error is an issue to do with java and preloaded
> Xt. Opera has 
> a workaround for this. The plugin messages could be
> related to 
> this, but I am unsure of that.
> Try starting Opera with debugjava option (opera
> --debugjava). 
> Test your java install here:
> 
> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
> 
> If the workaround is indeed working, opera
> --debugjava
> will 
> make this apparent, as well as offer a technical
> explanation 
> of the issue.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> -- Angus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
To elaborate a little, I have been an Opera user for
many 
years, first under M$ and for several years now under 
Linux. I was having so many plugin issues with Opera's

latest releases for Linux (they are working on it),
that I have gone 
back to Opera 9.20 Build 638
(opera_9.20-20070409.6-shared-
qt_en_i386.deb), an archived version, available here:

http://deb.opera.com/opera/pool/non-free/o/opera/

I am having better results with the older version, but
of course 
YMMV.
Hopefully this issue is to be worked out soon. 
More info can be found at Opera Desktop Team site,
here:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

HTH's a little. :)

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Re: Download Opera brower package

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--- hce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Mark.
> 
> That works fine. The only thing when I call the
> opera from the command
> line, it has following errors although it still
> works. Should I
> concern that error messages or not?
> 
> 
> ~$ opera
> ~$ ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD
> cannot be
> preloaded: ignored.
> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD
> cannot be preloaded: ignored.
> ** Message: plugin_get_value 1 (1)
> 
> ** Message: plugin_get_value 2 (2)
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Jim
> 
> On 12/4/07, Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Mon,  3 Dec 2007 11:29:22 + (UTC)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I tried to install Opera brower packge from the
> apt-get install, but
> > > could not find the package? What am I missing?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Jim
> >
> >
> > Just add the following to your
> /etc/apt/sources.list, update, and then
> > you'll be able to install opera.
> >
> > deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ etch non-free
> >
> > Mark
>
The error is an issue to do with java and preloaded
Xt. Opera has 
a workaround for this. The plugin messages could be
related to 
this, but I am unsure of that.
Try starting Opera with debugjava option (opera
--debugjava). 
Test your java install here:

http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp

If the workaround is indeed working, opera --debugjava
will 
make this apparent, as well as offer a technical
explanation 
of the issue.

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Re: What's the best way to upgrade java??

[Angus Auld]

--- Nyizsnyik Ferenc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 05:52:11 -0800 (PST)
> Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I am new to Debian, and I'm wondering what is the
> > *best* 
> > way for me to upgrade my java to version 6?
> > Is it ok to get the relavent pkgs from testing
> (lenny)
> > and 
> > install them from a folder using "dpkg -i *.deb"?
> 
> Since its dependencies are most likely installed on
> all systems, this
> approach may work, however...
> 
> > I am used to rpm based Linux (Mandriva), and I
> could 
> > install rpms with a similar method using "urpmi
> *.rpm"
> > Would it be safe to add a lenny repository to
> > Synaptic, 
> > and upgrade only my java pkgs??
> 
> ...instead of Lenny repository I suggest
> backports.org. The packages
> there are specifically made for Etch.
> 
> > I have the testing version of "java-package"
> (0.37)
> > installed, 
> > so yet another method would be to create the
> updated 
> > java using the java6 from sun (make-jpkg).
> > 
> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > TIA, best regards. 
> > 
> > PS. I am running Dreamlinux, which is Debian Etch4
> > based.
> > My kernel version is "2.6.18.1-kanotix-1".
> 
> Should not be a problem in this case.
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks for the helpful reply Nyizsa.
Much appreciated indeed.

Best regards.

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What's the best way to upgrade java??

[Angus Auld]

I am new to Debian, and I'm wondering what is the
*best* 
way for me to upgrade my java to version 6?
Is it ok to get the relavent pkgs from testing (lenny)
and 
install them from a folder using "dpkg -i *.deb"?
I am used to rpm based Linux (Mandriva), and I could 
install rpms with a similar method using "urpmi *.rpm"

Would it be safe to add a lenny repository to
Synaptic, 
and upgrade only my java pkgs??

I have the testing version of "java-package" (0.37)
installed, 
so yet another method would be to create the updated 
java using the java6 from sun (make-jpkg).

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

TIA, best regards. 

PS. I am running Dreamlinux, which is Debian Etch4
based.
My kernel version is "2.6.18.1-kanotix-1".


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Re: volume mgmt w/o gnome

[Angus Auld]

--- Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello.  I use fluxbox most of the time.  But, when I
> plug in my hp315
> photosmart camera, I rely upon gnome to find it, and
> automagically
> mount it for me.  Is it possible to completely
> remove gnome, and just
> mount this camera (or other USB storage devices)
> myself?  Or, and even
> better, find a utility that, sans gnome, can
> automagically mount the
> camera itself?
> 
> Also, I use kmix for a volume control, because this
> seems the only
> application that provides a small speaker applet on
> the fluxbox panel
> to control sounds.  I'd like to get rid of it, and
> the kde libs that
> accompany it.  So, is there a fluxbox-specific
> volume control that sits
> nicely on the panel? (Preferably one that actually
> looks like a volume
> control, and not something gawd-awful looking?)  If
> not, fine, I'll
> just use xmixer, or alsamixer, or something.  Still,
> there really should
> be a something other than kmix, for a volume
> control, that can sit
> nicely on the fluxbox panel.
> 
> Mark
>>
Check out gkrellm and its various plugins. There is a
volume 
control amongst them.
Should work w/fluxbox, I think.

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Re: Wireless network control (applet) for xfce4

[Angus Auld]

--- Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am looking for an easy way to control my wireless
> (and wired) network for
> xfce4.
> 
> I am currently using wlassistant, but it doesn't
> allow automatic connection
> (less important) and it has problems connecting to a
> wpa network, it attempts
> to connect properly but unless wpa_gui is also
> running in parallel it will
> usually fail to connect for some reason.
>
Micha, I am running Dreamlinux (Debian Etch 4 w/xfce)
on my
Dell Inspiron laptop. Internet 
management has been a breeze with this system. 
I am using a Ralink wireless card monitored with the
Wavelan 
applet plugin.

Net packages that I find installed (by default) are
the following:
netapplet
netbase
netcat
net-tools
networkconf
wavmon
wireless-tools
wpasupplicant
xfce4-wavelan-plugin
xfce4-goodies

There may be other packages of significance due to 
dependencies, etc.

Automatic connection is being established consistently
with 
this setup.

HTHs a little. Best regards.


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Re: removing kde

[Angus Auld]

--- lostson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
>  Hello All 
>  I have install debian stable with kde and am
> wanting to remove kde completely 
> and install gnome. Is this possible ? and if so how
> ? I have been googling 
> trying to find a way with no luck thanks.
> 
>  LostSon
>>>
LostSon, I just removed kde (which I had installed)
from my Debian Etch system(Dreamlinux, Debian Etch
w/xfce).

What I did was search everything kde w/apt-get, and
start removing packages carefully. I started with kde
libs and continued
on from there.
Apt-get is great and will warn you of any dependency
issues.
Perhaps there is an easier way, but that method worked
for me. :)

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k3b file sorting

[Angus Auld]

Greetings Debian users,

I am new to Debian, but not to Linux, having used many
versions of Mandrake/Mandriva.
I am now using Dreamlinux, which is based on Debian
Etch and uses the xfce wm.
My question has to do with k3b. Is there any way to
sort sound files for a cd project in a manner other
than alphabetical? I guess I could number the files,
but that would be tedious with a 150 files or so.
Any feedback would be much appreciated.
Best regards.

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