Re: proxim/orinoco silver issue
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 06:54 -0500, Robert D. Crawford wrote: > "Barry, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > seems like I remember this issue, and you'll need to exclude some > > memory > > ranges. Unfortunately, I do not have access to the box I had this card > > in now, but maybe these tidbits can help google the answer. > > I did see something on the net concerning this, but it did not work for > me. Do you know how to find out the ranges that need to be excluded, > and why? > > Thanks, > > rdc > > this may help anyone with similar issues... from: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/41/2005/01/4/72457 stir_freyHi all. If you are still working on this card I obtained a beta driver from proxim yesterday. I put it on my site, [url]www.greenblaze.com[/url] . Fair warning this is a beta driver. I tried installing it on rhat 9 and it installed fine, but it killed my pcmcia service. When I try to start pcmcia modprobe cant locate pcmcia_core.o, yenta_socket.o, or ds.o. I'm going to try again today with a fresh install. (no, I didn't really try to fix it) When I talked with tech support at proxim they said it was a hermes II chip set in the thing, which goes along with the other posts. If you try this let me know how it goes. I plan on posting the good, the bad and the ugly on my site and I will be checking here as well. Of all the postings this one seems the most promising. enjoystir_freyI got it to work now. I just have to use insmod to load the modules that it cant find. Its a temp fix but it works. :-)cp8I managed to get mine up and running under slackware 9.0 thanks a million! this is exactly what i was looking for. i download the driver and got it up and running under redhat9.0 in minutes. i'm using the card right now. thanks again :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting cmucl hemlock to work.
I grabbed all of the cmucl packages, and the Lisp is working okay but I can't invoke the hemlock editor no matter how many times I do (ed) or run cmuclconfig to set up the loading. After running a generic Debian installation of the packages, what am I supposed to do to get hemlock or any of the X stuff working? Also, is this "hemlock" really the best way, or is XEmacs better? Christopher
Re: netscape4.x cannot read debian-user list archives
I had this problem to with an earlier Netscape. I'm using 4.06 right now (though there is 4.07) and it seems to work okay. By the way, the 4.5 final came out just today. The only time I've ever had Linux *really* crash hard was with a 4.5 beta and it crashed anyways whenever I did a lot of rapid fire email deleating. What I'd *really* like to see is a Netscape that properly supports 24bpp Christopher Jan Krupa wrote: > > I have installed netscape4.5b2 under debian2.0. > When I try to read debian-user mailing list archives > (e.g. from September, august) first > time it's O.K. but next times on the same month archives > netscape just hangs I have to kill it (the archives are very big). > > When I try to read much smaller archives (e.g. debian-changes, > September) it's all right. > > I had the same behavior using netscape4.x, but netscape3.x > reads the archives well. > > Does anybody have any idea what causes such behavior of netscape ? > May be I have configured netscape wrong. > My be I some hint what change in preferences? > > > Jan Krupa > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Partition size technicalities. Re: Debian's recommendation for the size of the swap.
Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: [...] > I've a machine with 64 MB ram, 1 swap partition of about 32 MB (made > like that when I only had 32 MB ram) 1 swap file of 127 MB (it doesn't > take 128 MB, you must put something less). [...] If you really want to know why this is (probably not), partition sizes are actually specified in cylinders. It is possible to define partition boundaries that do not lie on cylinder boundaries, but this can be very dangerous and most partitioning software only lets you do this with the 'expert options' or something similar. Most disks have a geometry that is something like x 255 heads x 16 sectors x 512 bytes per sector. So the size of one cylinder is going to be 255x16x512, which is 2,088,960 bytes. Thus all of your partition sizes are going to be multiples of that, and the closest multiple to 128MB is 127,426,560 bytes. While not as important with ext2fs Linux and FAT32/Win, it's a good idea to size your partitions to the closest cylinder that resides under the power of 2 mark (<31MB, <63MB, <511MB, etc) for minimal cluster sizes and minimal disk space wastage. Even though newer filesystems like ext2fs and FAT32 typically use 4k inodes or clusters, if you have 8GB partitions then there's going to be an incredible amount of clusters or accounting information and this will lower performance so it's good to use multiple, smaller partitions anyways for this reason and all the other reasons for using seperate /var, /tmp, etc. partitions. Christopher
You'll need another ISP, but AOL *kinda* can work with Linux. Re: Linux and AOL
You'll definately need another ISP, but once you have one, using WINE, the Windows Emulator, you can connect to AOL using the PPP/ethernet type connect. You'll never get your modem working with it, so don't bother trying to not get another ISP. You can actually connect to AOL and check your mail, and chatrooms work to, but IMs never do. There is a Java client for IMs though. I'm using an older snapshot of WINE, and with the current one AOL might run even better. I'm running WINE like this with these arguments: wine -winver win31 -perfect -managed -desktop 800x600 ./aol So hopefully after getting a real ISP you'll still be able to talk to your lesser configured buddies. Christopher Stephen Gore wrote: > > Is it possible to connect to the Internet through AOL? I'm installing Debaian > v2.0 via floppy and ftp, and need internet access to complete the > installation. Any alternative suggestions welcome. Thanx! > > > More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at > http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Setting size that windows start as
Most X apps accept a "-geometry" flag which you give the arguments as: xemacs -geometry 80x24+100+100 or netscape -geometry 800x600+0+0 The first two numbers are the window's dimensions. For most apps, such as Netscape, this is the pixel size, but for many text oriented apps such as xterms and emacsen it's the columns and rows. The second 2 numbers are how far the window is offset in pixels from the upper left corner of the screen, position +0+0. Christopher M.C. Vernon wrote: > > Dear debian people, > > When I launch emacs in X, it comes up just a little too big for my > screen. Is there a command-line argument for setting the size of the > window, please? > > Thanks, > > Matthew > > -- > Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo > > Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society > Selwyn College Computer Support > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ > http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ > http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: ppp problems..using EZPPP...
EZPPP is really something for Slackware people that can't figure out how to make all the different scripts, but are simply too cool to use something like Debian that automates routine work for you. If you're using Debian Hamm or newer, as root type 'pppconfig'. Every system should come with this installed. It's really, really easy to use. Christopher Person, Rod wrote: > > Hey again, > > I don't know about this one > > I installed EZPPP and it worked fine, except the ppp connection died > before I could figure out why mozilla could find the server. But here is > my porblem... > > Now it doesn't dial my modem! I did nothing to it just turned the > machine of for the night. Turn it on the next day and it's dead. > It initializes the modem, gets the ok from the modem then when it is > suppose to dial it tells me that it expects a connect signal. I really > can't figure out why it would dial. I changed dial scripts to that used > by wvdial (wvdial works..dial connects..but dies) but that did nothing. > Ezppp did dial connect and hold the connection for 5 minutes or so when > I first installed but now it doesn't dial WHY? > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Can't load library
That's because Suse is using libc5 and Debian is using the newer glibc. Install Netscape using the Debian installer and grab the older libraries from section oldlibs, or download the glibc version of Netscape from their ftp. Christopher Ken Archer wrote: > > Trying to get Netscape 4.5b2 up and running on Debian 2.0, I get > the error message that: > > Netscape: cannot load library "libXpm.so.4" > > I have the same Netscape running fine on a Suse 5.2 partition with libXpm.so.4 > installed in the same default directory (/usr/X11R6/lib). I have used > Slackware, Red Hat, Suse and now Debian. I had no idea there was so much > difference between the setup on Debian and the other dist. I would appreciate > a well placed nudge in the right direction. > > -- > > == > Ken Archer - San Antonio, Texas "As soon as I get all my > email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]penquins in a row I'll > get right on it..." >(o- >(O- //\ (o- (o- (o- (o- >//\ V_/_ //\ //\ //\ //\ >V_/_ V_/_ V_/_ V_/_ V_/_ > == > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Savage3D X server?
Don't bother with this card. Firstly, no, I haven't heard of any Linux support for it. Right now the Windows support for it is still pretty shabby. They rushed the cards with the Savage 3D chip out with _very_ immature drivers because the Riva TNT appears to be superior to it in all ways and had already shipped. You should go for either a Matrox G200 based board right now which is currently supported by SUSE or wait for TNT support which shouldn't be too long from now in light of recent policy changes with nVidia and buy one of those instead. Christopher Ossama Othman wrote: > > Hi, > > Does anyone know if there is an X server that will support the Savage3D or > if an X server/driver is in the works? > > Thanks, > -Ossama > > __ > Ossama Othman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Thank you!!! Re: Okay then, incremental compiling and loading... Re: Free debugger that can do source debugging without executable.
Thanks! I grabbed cint and compiled it and it does _exactly_ what I wanted. What I originally wanted was a pure interpreter as I said in my original mail. I mentioned the incremental compiling and loading thing only because I thought there might be a better chance of such a beast existing. cint will let you step through uncompiled source and display global and local variables at any time and do a million other useful and powerful things. This should definately be packaged for Debian. Casually perusing the license it seems that it's free for non-commercial use and if you use it commercially you need to register with Hewlett Packard of Japan or something The source tree has four different Linux 2.x targets including RH5.1 but I couldn't get any of them to compile right. It appears to be a termcap issue. I tried replacing -ltermcap with -lncurses to see if I could get ncurses' termcap emulation working but nope, and the termcap-compat package from hamm/admin (not in Slink yet) didn't change a thing either. The build did work with the 'minimum' target though and it's working great. Christopher Hein Roehrig wrote: > > Christopher Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How about incremental compiling and loading then? I've heard that > > there were Lisp environments that were doing this in the > > 1980s. Given C's popularity, and the fact that it's more than a > > decade later, is there an incremental compiling and loading > > environment for C? > > Check out http://root.cern.ch/. It does not do exactly what you want, > but it should get pretty close. > > Regards, > Hein > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Getting back into X after C-Alt-Fn'ing out.
I read some email in the Debian list a few minutes ago that said you can switch to a text mode virtual console from X by using Control-Alt-Fn and thought "cool, I always wondered if there was a way to do that... I think I'll try it right now!" So I did and then I could not for the life of me figure out how to get back into X. No manpages, info pages, /usr/doc wildcard greps etc gave me anything useful. As a last resort I removed the lock file and tried to isolate and SIGKILL xinit and WindowMaker and every X related process I could find and I still couldn't get back into X by restarting it, so I ended up *rebooting*. So, you guys can probably figure out what my question is :) Also, one other question. Is it possible to start two seperate X sessions, so that you could say have one X session running WindowMaker and the other one running E or something else, and switch between them via control-alt-fn or whatever? Thanks, Christopher
Okay then, incremental compiling and loading... Re: Free debugger that can do source debugging without executable.
How about incremental compiling and loading then? I've heard that there were Lisp environments that were doing this in the 1980s. Given C's popularity, and the fact that it's more than a decade later, is there an incremental compiling and loading environment for C? Robert Ramiega wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 04:57:49PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there a debugger or a way to get ddd to load and interpret a C source > > file and step through it a step at a time without requiring the > > debug-symbol compiled executable? I seem to remember doing something > > like this a long time ago with one of Borland's IDEs, but I might be > > mistaken. > You are mistaken. In that Borland IDE of old (TurboPascal 4.x+) code was > compiled before getting You into debugger > hmm of course i might be wrong =o) > > -- > Robert Ramiega | [EMAIL PROTECTED]IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate > IT Manager @ PDi | http://plukwa.pdi.net/| the power of Source > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: rc3.d
When I got wmnet some time ago I wanted to have the following commands run every time I booted so that wmnet would display properly: $ ipfwadm -A in -i -S 0.0.0.0/0 $ ipfwadm -A out -i -D 0.0.0.0/0 I had no idea how to do this, but by looking in /etc and how things were structured I kind of guessed how to do it, and it seems to have worked perfectly, but is probably politically incorrect. In /etc/init.d/ I made a file called wmnetstartup.sh that contains: #!/bin/sh ipfwadm -A in -i -S 0.0.0.0/0 ipfwadm -A out -i -D 0.0.0.0/0 and then in /etc/rcS.d/ I made a symlink to that script called: S60wmnetstartup Be sure to set the permissions on both of these files the same as all the other files in the directory, and it will run the script every time you boot. If this is not the politically correct way to have a command run at boot time that you would normally just type in from your login shell anyways, like startx or whatever, then what is? Thanks, Christopher Default Debian Reader wrote: > > I want ppp to start at boot time so I made a script that does has the > following lines > #!/bin/sh > pon MY_ISP > i saved this file to /etc/init.d/pppstuff* > then in /etc/rc3.d/ i did ln -s /etc/init.d/pppstuff /etc/rc3.d/S20pppon > this doesn't start my ppp connection at boot..why not? > can anyone help me with this please? > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Free debugger that can do source debugging without executable.
Hi, Is there a debugger or a way to get ddd to load and interpret a C source file and step through it a step at a time without requiring the debug-symbol compiled executable? I seem to remember doing something like this a long time ago with one of Borland's IDEs, but I might be mistaken. Thanks, Christopher
Re: viewing ansi graphics
Heh heh, I remember the days of DOS and BBSing and The Draw and DOOM II and MODs and demos I don't know how to display the higher-ascii characters in the text-mode console, but if under X you start an xterm or rxvt or whatever and load it with an ansi font (eg xterm -font vga or rxvt -fn vga, you'll need to download the font first) then you can properly display all those colored blocks and funky characters. If anyone knows how to display these characters in text mode, please let me know. I'm thinking it might be possible with the 2.1.x kernels, because they let you display all kinds of weird things in text mode like yellow prompts and graphical penguins, IIRC. But I may be wrong. Christopher Matt Garman wrote: > > Does anyone know of a way (or a utility) to view ansi graphics under > Linux? > > I used to run a BBS a few years back, and had it pretty jazzed out > with colorful ANSi graphics. I can't just "cat" the files, though, > because the high-ascii characters are not diplayed correctly (and by > high-ascii I mean blocks and "shaded blocks," lines, etc.). > > Back in the day I created the ANSI graphics with a DOS program called > "TheDraw" and viewed them with "type ." Of course, the > ANSI.SYS driver had to be loaded. > > Thanks > Matt > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Any advice on hard Seagate Ultra-SCSI hard disks?
Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > Sorry for this non-Debian related post... > > My office Seagate Barracuda ultra-SCSI 4.3GB is full, and I need to get > another disk. Does anyone know the Seagate Ultra-SCSI Medalist Pro? > > I got these prices in Canadian currency (currently about CND$1.50 = US$1) At > shopper.com and pricewatch.com they have the 9.1GB 1MB cache U2W 10,000RPM > cheetah, fastest disk on the planet, for around $675 US. It will work with a > standard UW controller as long as you have a cable with an active terminator. > If you don't have such a cable you could probably get the terminator for > another $20 or so. > > ST34520N MEDALIST PRO 4.55GB SCSI ULTRA, 3.5LP 9.5MS 7200RPM $333 > ST36530N MEDALIST PRO 6.5GB ULTRA SCSI, 3.5LP 11MS 7200RPM *MC=20* $588 > ST39140WC MEDALIST PRO 9.10GB SCSI ULTRA, SCA 9.5MS 7200RPM *MC=20* $782 > > ST34572N BARRACUDA 4.55GB SCSI ULTRA, 3.5LP 8.8/9.8MS 7200RPM*MSTR CRT=10 $703 > ST34572WC BARRACUDA 4.55GB SCSI ULTRA 4XL, 8.8/9.8MS 7200RPM *MSTR CRT=20* > $748 > ST39173N BARRACUDA 9.1GB ULTRA SCSI, 3.5HH 8MS 7200RPM *MC=10* $947 > > I like the Barracuda, but it's only worthwhile in 9.1GB format right now, > and you should never buy much bigger than you need for disks (prices drop > so fast). > > They're both 7200 rpm disks, both with 4.17 ms Average Latency. The > tract-to-track seek is 0.8 ms on the Barracuda and 2.5 ms on the Medalist > Pro. Perhaps that makes it *feel* faster? > > Any owners out there? > > BTW, this is what I get on the Barracuda: > > # hdparm -tT /dev/sda3 > > /dev/sda3: > Timing buffer-cache reads: 64 MB in 1.89 seconds =33.86 MB/sec > Timing buffered disk reads: 32 MB in 3.53 seconds = 9.07 MB/sec > > -- > Peter Galbraith, research scientist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada > P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 >6623'rd Linux user at the Linux Counter -- http://counter.li.org/ > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Using two mice under X at once.
Gerald, I'm using a Micro Innovations KB-99T. These are impossible to find. You can try every single search engine (hotbot, yahoo, excite, etc...), and only one, Altavista, will turn up a place selling them. It's a _really_ nice keyboard. Anyways, the relevent part of my XF86Config is: Section "Pointer" Protocol"Microsoft" Device "/dev/ttyS0" BaudRate1200 Emulate3Timeout 50 Resolution 200 Buttons 3 Emulate3Buttons EndSection Section "XInput" SubSection "Mouse" Port "/dev/psaux" DeviceName"Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Emulate3Timeout 50 Resolution 300 Emulate3Buttons AlwaysCore EndSubSection EndSection The "Microsoft" protocol device is the keyboard's touchpad, and the PS/2 device is my trackball. They work together flawlessly. The touchpad on the keyboard I only use to quickly switch between windows, because it beats the hell out of having to Meta-cycle through 15 different windows or multiple workspaces, and reaching for the mouse/trackball is something we've all grown to hate. Having a little touchpad on the keyboard is the perfect solution for quick, painless window switching. Christopher "G. Crimp" wrote: > > Hi, > > Can you guys tell me what brand and model of keyboard you are using. > I use a logitech ergonomic keyboard with touchpad at work (windows) but it > does not work with Linux at home. I tried all the availble protocols (at > least in gpm, not under X) and none of them worked. So, I'd sure like to > know what it is that you guys got working. > > Thanks, > > Gerald Crimp
Re: Real3D StarFighter video card
Rich, I haven't checked my mail since Saturday, so I apologise for this coming late, but just recently today a free binary i740 server was announced on slashdot.org. Hope you haven't ordered any Xi Graphics CDs yet :) Christopher Richard Heller wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a Real3D StarFighter AGP video card, which is based on the Intel > i740 chipset. Unfortunately this chipset is currently unsupported by > XFree86, at least it is according to their FAQ. The only place I've seen > that offers an X server for this chipset is XiG. The problem is that > they want $100 for it. That just seems a bit much for something that I > was expecting to be free. My question is, does anyone know of any other > place to get an X server for the i740 chipset? Or should I just bite the > bullet and pay the money? > > Thanks, > Rich > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: You can try VM. Re: Gnus for mail: How do I setup my system.
Hi, I'm sure nothing is wrong with Debian's prepackaged VM. I didn't know it existed, and didn't think to check. I'd really like to manage emacs packages through dpkg actually, especially if it took care of all the emacs lisp 'require and loadpath and autoloading and autoloading cookies crap for me. Chris Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Hi, > > So what is wrong with Debian's packaged VM? VM has been in > Debian since July 1995 at leaset (in 5.92beta, I think). > > If there is something wrong with the prepackages VM, I would > appreciate a bug report. > > manoj > baffled > --> dpkg -s vm > Package: vm > Status: install ok installed > Priority: optional > Section: mail > Installed-Size: 1558 > Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Version: 6.61-1 > Replaces: vm-el > Provides: mail-reader > Depends: smail | sendmail | mail-transport-agent, emacs19 > Recommends: make > Conflicts: vm-el > Description: A mail user agent for Emacs > VM (View Mail) is an Emacs subsystem that allows UNIX mail to be read > and disposed of within Emacs. Commands exist to do the normal things > expected of a mail user agent, such as generating replies, saving > messages to folders, deleting messages and so on. There are other > more advanced commands that do tasks like bursting and creating > digests, message forwarding, and organizing message presentation > according to various criteria. > . > It should also be mentioned here that the documentation for vm is woefully > behind the times; there fore we include /usr/doc/vm/vm-vars.el.gz, which > has information about all customizable variables in vm. Also, VM 6.x > versions have problems with the library tm-vm from the Tiny Mime (TM) > package, since that version was written for VM 5.X. > . > This package comes (by default) bundled in with with XEmacs, and is > not yet supported on emacs20. > > >>"Christopher" == Christopher Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Christopher> Hi, You can grab VM from http://www.wonderworks.com if > Christopher> you want an easy to use mail reader for emacs. If any > Christopher> other emacs users are reading this you should also check > Christopher> out the above mentioned site as they have some nifty > Christopher> packages for emacs. > > -- > It seems a little silly now, but this country was founded as a > protest against taxation. > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> > Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E
You can try VM. Re: Gnus for mail: How do I setup my system.
Hi, You can grab VM from http://www.wonderworks.com if you want an easy to use mail reader for emacs. If any other emacs users are reading this you should also check out the above mentioned site as they have some nifty packages for emacs. Chris Johann Spies wrote: > > I have heard that I can use gnus for handling my mail. I have looked at > the huge amount of documentation on gnus mainly dealing with the reading > of news. I do not want to use gnus for that as I am reading my news > offline using slrn. > > The message-mode seems to have very few mail handling facilities. > > Can somebody direct me on how te setup gnus for email? > > Can gnus handle aliases of a group of people? > > I use fetchmail and procmail with pine at the moment on a dialup system to > my ISP. My problem is that Pine's "Sender" - field causes some spam > filters to reject my mail because Pine puts my hostname there and that is > not a valid internet address. > > Johann > -- > | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | > | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | > | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | > -- > > "And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto > you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; > neither for the body, what ye shall put on. For life > is more than meat, and the body is more than clothing. > Consider the ravens, for they neither sow nor reap; > they have neither storehouse nor barn; and yet God > feeds them; how much better you are than the birds! > Consider the lilies, how they grow; they toil > not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that > Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of > these. If then God so clothe the grass, which is to > day in the field, and tomorrow is cast into the oven; > how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little > faith? And seek not what ye shall eat, or what ye > shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind. > But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these > things shall be added unto you." > Luke 12:22-24; 27-29; 31. > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Found out how to get Xemacs to remember font and color changes....
After A LOT of Altavista searching and reading through quite a few different emacs FAQs, I found out you need to put: (setq options-save-faces t) in your .emacs file for those changes to be saved.
Making Xemacs remember font and faces changes.
Hi guys, I'm slowly moving from vim to xemacs I got xemacs to remember my options for editing *.c files, but I can't get it to remember to use size 14 instead of 12 fonts and to change the default foreground to white and background to black. Also, is there a way to run plain old console emacs under X instead of always getting a X-windowy version of it started?
Re: Lower bogomips in debian?
I have a Pentium-MMX 166MHz overclocked to 200MHz and I get 399.77. I believe 332.60 is the exact number I got to when I had it clocked at 166MHz. That definately is a weird problem you've got. FWIW, Chris none wrote: > > Hi, I just recently installed debian 2.0 on my pc at home and I just > noticed something odd as I booted. Since I have started using debian it > shows 249.04 bogomips whereas when I used to run slackware,redhat,suse it > would show 332.60 bogomips. I know this probably isnt such a big deal but > it struck me as being odd. I have built another kernel and it show the > same 249.04 number, then I tried booting off a slackware 3.5 bootdisk I > have and it reported the 332.60. Anyway just thought I would ask if there > was some sort of reason of this inconsistency, other then that I am very > pleased with debian 2.0. Oh by the way I am using a Pentium 166/MMX > processor with 96MB RAM. > > Thanks! > Eric > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: New machine spec: any comments?
I don't know know if you have a choice of who you're buying from or not already, but if you do, you should check out www.pricewatch.com. You'll be able to get some 450MHz PIIs and 128MB sticks cheaper than anywhere else. In my experience and the experience of many others it seems that contrary to what one might expect or assume, Intel motherboards can be problematic and can have not-too-intelligent BIOSes with regards to recognizing and assigning IRQs and the overall quality of the boards seems to be lacking. For the best recommendations, go to www.tomshardware.com. As for the 512 vs. 1GB of RAM question, unless you purchase Pentium II XEON processors, it is supposed to be not practical to use more than 512MB in a Pentium II system because they can not cache more than that. And since nearly all PII motherboards have 4 DIMM slots at most, and the price of 256MB sticks is 4 times that of 128MB sticks. Unless the workstation REALLY needs more than 512MB it's obviously not price/performance effective to go with 1GB, especially considering that a 512k cache 400MHz (450MHz for these isn't even around yet) PII XEON processor costs almost twice as much as a 512k cache 450MHz PII, and will deliver less system level performance than the 450MHz processor in nearly any type of non-enterprise server system. A lot of people don't know this or refuse to believe it, but modern DMA bus-mastering EIDE hard disks use just as much if not less CPU overhead as the best SCSI disks unlike the old days, and can perform within 15% of the some of the best SCSI disks to. If you have more than one disk in your system though, then the story is completely different, because you can only access one device on an IDE chain at a time unlike SCSI. So if you only require one disk to perform well and don't need to simultaneously use multiple devices, EIDE does make a lot more sense. To find out more about EIDE vs. SCSI and to help decide on what drive to get, check out www.storagereview.com. FWIW, I use and swear by SCSI, even though 99.9% of the time I'm only using a single disk and don't really benefit at all from it. This will change soon though once the 2.2 kernel comes out and I play with data-striping with my old 7200RPM and 5400RPM SCSI disks :) As for your partitioning question, in order to have more than 4 partitions on a disk, you must use logical partitions within an extended partition. If you select to make logical partitions within cfdisk, the extended partition will be created for you automatically. As for the parity vs. normal RAM question, I wouldn't know what to tell you. They say that for normal Pentium computers that a single bit parity error has a mean time of occuring only once every ten years from certain forms of radiation from the sun bombarding enough energy upon a single memory cell to charge it enough to change it's state. Even if this does happen, there's only a ultra minute chance that it actually causes corruption to any file or system process anyways. The more RAM you have though (512MB vs. 32MB), and the more you torture it (enterprise server or GCC compiler vs. net browsing), then I suppose your chances do increase a good bit to possibly even more than one error per year. Enterprise servers always use ECC RAM because of this. Tony Robinson wrote: > > I'm planning on building several Debian/Linux compute and disk servers, > the aim is for maximum remote "workstation" performance with no frills. > The target hardware is: > > * Dual processor PII 400MHz (450MHz if they were available) > > * 512Mbyte or 1Gbyte RAM (likely to be limited by 4 slots at 128Mbyte) > > * IBM 16.8 Gbyte EIDE disk (these are nice) > > * SMC EPIC100 100 Mbps ethernet (if not on motherboard) > > * No video card/monitor/mouse/keyboard except at installation > > To note: > > * The aim is a fast and cheap machine - the cheaper they are the more > that can be bought. > > * There is no SCSI drive: My assumption is that with this much RAM > Linux will cache any frequently used executables. Most of the time > I expect the system to be compute bound. > > * My experience with Sparc Ultra is that a running job is lost if you > really need more RAM than the physical memory - disk just hasn't kept > pace with CPU performance. Under such conditions swap is only useful > for stopped or infreqently used processes, so perhaps it doesn't > matter if it is a bit slower than SCSI. > > * I'll need many 128 Mbyte swap partitions under 2.0. I've only ever > created primary partitions and there is a limit of four - will I have > a problem in creating 8 * 128 Mbyte partions on one disk? > > * I've got a Dual PPro system (2.0.35) going at the moment - both > processors run fine with long CPU bound jobs. I've just (today) > started seeing NFS problems when writing to the internal disk from a > Solaris machine - I see 8192 byte blocks corrupted from "similar" > files. I've yet to track down the cause. > > * Th
You know, you really don't need to burn a CD....
Sean Peterson wrote: > > I have downloaded the 2.0 images from 4 different servers now > (from 3 different machines in case it was mine causing my > problem...) > > All 4 dl'ed copies have come in ok with one exception... the > md5sums are _not_ what they are listed as in the md5sums > file... they all come out as a different number but all for have > come out with the _same_ md5sum number, it just does not > match the one posted > > Posted md5sum: > e25491474227b42f61e4185201f4120b > > All 4 copies came out with: > aed2a0df92ba52878171fb24a911c6dd Hi, I have obtained 100% my Linux via ftp. It really is pointless to do a +600MB download and then roast a perfectly good blank CD when you are only going to use 10% of what you roast and then never use that CD again. Unlike Redhat, you don't need to download 60MB distributed in over 100 files and then edit the RPM availability file by hand to get a minimal base system working. Debian doesn't seem to try to make things impossible for you if you don't buy a CD. And once you get all the stuff installed from the 2.0 CD you are going to be updating half of it through ftp anyways in the near future and you'll be grabbing Slink versions of most of your stuff as well which isn't on that image. My connection is a 56k analog modem. If you have ADSL, FTP makes _A LOT_ of sense for you. If you insist on using the CD image you have right now, if it does indeed not contain errors, then you can at least save yourself the roasting of a perfectly good CD by using a bootable Linux floppy with the loopback device supported in the kernel as well as the iso-9660 filesystem. The loopback device will let you mount the raw CD image on your disk as though it were on a CD-ROM. Good luck, Chris > Can anyone tell me what the <> is going wrong? > Are 4 different servers (and three diffrent computers) screwing > this up or is it just me? > > Systems: > > One: PII300 with windoze98 (ok... I'm just getting into Linux > and have yet to find someone in Edmonton Alberta CANADA > willing to sell me a Debian 2.0 CD _CHEAP_ , they all have > 1.31 but not 2.0 and I have ADSL and a CD-R...) > > TWO: P-200 (win95a) on Cable > > Three: P-166 (winNT) on ??? at school (I think ISDN) > > I am lost as to what to do (I know that I can do an FTP install > and then make cd-packages for my friends afterwards but > having a bootable CD to work with from the get-go makes life a > little easier in my eyes) > > Thanks in advance > (BTW: if someone in the Edmonton region is reading this and > you have a copy of 2.0 on CD, please PLEASE let me know :) > > _\\|//_ > (` o-o ') > ooO-(_)-Ooo > Sean Peterson > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >.oooO Oooo. Visit the TimeWarp Tavern at- >( ) ( ) http://www.telusplanet.net/public/swp/index.htm > \ (~) / > \_) (_/ > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: KDE configuration
I once ran Windowmaker+GNOME as default, then I switched to KDE, but lately KDE's been uninstalled on my machine and I'm using Windowmaker again but this time without GNOME (which reminds me maybe it's about time I grabbed .25 ;) Anyways, IIRC KDE made dotfile directories for each user's customizations in their respective home directories when I installed it and I never encountered any permissions problems. Data that could be shared between users was put in /usr/share/... (like /usr/share/wallpaper/, a good idea). Also, I never had to add any export statements or edit any config files by hand with KDE. You can do everything from within it with a nice GUI. When you installed KDE, did you grab the *.debs from their site? If you didn't, but grabbed the tarball instead than this could explain your woes. If you do grab the debs, be sure to get the *-dev packages to because I heard some necessary run-time pixmaps are mistakingly/non-intuitively packaged there. Azog wrote: > > Hello. I've recently switched from WindowMaker to KDE. I never run X from > root, its always run from user azog. How can I get kde to read config files > from ~/.kde (like it should... with $KDEDIR) instead of all the separate > dirs like how its setup? azog has no write perms on /etc/kde, which makes it > kinda hard to customize ;> And yes, I did 'export KDEDIR='/home/azog/.kde' > (zsh). Any Help is appreciated. > > -- > -Josh > Co-Admin of California.ZUH.net (Azog) > ..and always remember..."arf is god spelled funny." > > -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- > GCS d---(pu) s+:- a16 C++>$ UL+++>$ P+ L+++ !E W-- N+++ o? K+ w--- !O !M V- > PS+++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t 5 X+ R tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G+ e-> h! r++ y- > --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
256MB RAM systems can need 1GB swap... Re: Partitioning....
The latest Debian install manual when addressing the need of how big you need to make your swap partition says: "That still leaves the question of swap space. There are as many views on how much swap you need as there are Unix administrators. One rule of thumb which works well is to use as much swap as you have RAM, although there probably isn't much point in going over 64MB of swap for most users. If you start using that much swap, you should get more RAM. Of course, there are exceptions. If you are trying to solve 1 simultaneous equations on a machine with 256MB of RAM you may need a gigabyte (or more) of swap. If your swap requirements are this high, however, you should probably try to spread the swap across different disks." So I suppose the "For workstations the more RAM you have, the less you'll need SWAP" isn't true for 100% of workstations, but I'll be damned if my 64MB Pentium-MMX has ever swapped much even with Netscape mail and bunch of browsers open and a kernel compile running in the background. Anyone care to explain why huge swap spaces should be spread across multiple disks? I can understand the need for multiple partitions, as swap partitions bigger than 128MB IIRC won't be able to use more than 128MB of it, but why should the multiple partitions be spread across multiple disks? Does doing this automatically make them RAID like so that writes and reads for the swap space are distributed so that each additional disk you distribute swap across increases your overall swap speed as is true with some RAID levels? If this is true, then in the name of the eaking out every last bit of swap performance that I'll never use I may just hook up an old unused 2GB SCSI disk I have (well, unused until I have enough other 'unused' parts to build a new computer to use it) and distribute my swap across it and my current disk (and mind as well make a few extra ext2 partitions on it while it's sitting on the SCSI chain so it sees more use). Certainly couldn't hurt, but might give me a 1% performance boost .0001% of the time I'm using my computer. :) Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:31:14 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote: > > >Well, give yourself at least twice as much swap space as physical memory > >(for 64 megs of ram, go for 128 megs of swap). Swap should be a seperate > >partition. > > Actually, this is antiquated advice to be handing out. On my Debian > system this is what free turns up: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/morpheus}free > total used free sharedbuffers cached > Mem: 63332 61784 1548 27160 32000 16208 > -/+ buffers/cache: 13576 49756 > Swap:14328 16 14312 > > 14Mb of SWAP and 63Mb of RAM. For workstations the more RAM you have, > the less you'll need SWAP. The only time this machine has touched swap was > because of the Netscape memory leak. So why waste the HD space for something > that is never used? > > Also, the 2x RAM rule of thumb is based on, IIRC, BSD systems which map > RAM into the swap space so to get any swap you had to make the swap partition > as large as RAM and then some. > > So, for a workstation, the lower the RAM I'd say the larger the swap. > Something like: > RAM/SWAP > 4/32 > 8/32 > 16/24 > 32/16 > 64/16 > > Servers, the rule of thumb is, what do you plan to run on the machine and > make sure your RAM/SWAP covers it. > > -- > Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my > http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my > ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! > ---+- > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: moving partition boundries???
I used to have Partition Magic 3.0x installed back in the days when I was using a 2GB disk and it was definately one of my favorite programs. There was a posting on Slashdot awhile back that Partition Magic 4.0, when released, will fully support Linux partitions with ext2 formating, and IIRC this part would be available for free download. Definately a good thing I remember 3.0x would at least recognise ext2 partitions but you couldn't move, resize, play with cluster sizes (don't know why you'd want to do this with ext2 anyways though), etc... none of the cool things PM lets you do with fat/vfat/fat32/hpfs/ntfs partitions. Another cool thing about PM is that you don't need to manually defrag a partition before resizing it. Quite an impressive piece of software Powerquest managed to pull off Of course, now that I have my 9.1GB disk I don't really need it anymore since at any given time it seems I have at least 2GB of unpartitioned space and I keep my disk _very_ split so if I want to move ext2 partitions around I can use the 2GB+ for temporary space to store the files from an Ext partition while preparing where the files are to go. The ability to change the boundaries of the extended partition sure is something I miss though when I had PM 3.0x. This operation never took more than a fraction of a second (unlike, say, resizing a partition and changing the cluster size at the same time, which would take _FOREVER_, understandably). Since the extended partition resize only takes a fraction of a second and the extended partition itself has no formatting of any kind to complicate matters then I suppose that fundamentally all that defines an extended partition may just be a few bytes of data in the MBR to set boundaries, so if that is true then AFAIK it couldn't be modifying more than 512 bytes of data, which leads one to wonder if a free extended partition resizer could be developed without taking too much time/effort. Of course, I think partitioning software is the last thing on the list of stuff most people would be willing to beta test Hank Fay wrote: > > I checked with PM tech, and they confirmed this. They can recognize and I > think create; but that's it. > > Hank > > -Original Message- > From: Ed Cogburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 11:37 AM > To: Debian Users > Subject: Re: moving partition boundries??? > > Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: > > > > I thought I saw an option for this in fdisk along the way, but now i can't > > find it. Now that I've moved about 40 floppies over by hand (no network > > card), I've found that if I set up a hibernation file in dos, the hardware > > will automatically use it. So I'd like to peel back the end of my > > / partition by 20mb . . . Is there any way to do this, or am I stuck > > with a complete reinstall if i want this? > > > > rick > > > > I'm afraid you are stuck. I think somebody said the commercial app > Partition Magic can do this, but I'll bet it can only split DOS/Win FAT > type partitions. There is no prog in the Linux world, that I've heard > of, that can split an ext2 partition. > > -- > Ed C. > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: nasty...
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > [...] > creating sd will create all the way up to sdp. Yes, but it won't create past /dev/sd15. The last time I installed Debian I had put 16 partitions on my brand new 9.1GB SCSI disk and then found I only had sda devices numbered up to 15. I read the manpage for /dev/MAKEDEV and found it pretty useless as well for this problem. They really should tell you how to do things like this, or at least have a more intuitive way (i.e. /dev/MAKEDEV /dev/sda16). Heh heh, some very interesting things happen when you try cp on a disk device (after trying everything else I tried copying sda15 to sda16 thinking it would just copy the tiny little file... very strange what starts to happen). Fortunately though it's not life-or-death that I have 16 partitions so I was able to just cfdisk 1 away and move on. > Hamish (about to play russian roulette by rebooting) > -- > Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 > CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Nuking damned scrambled consoles.
Hi, Every now and then I do a little goof-up that scrambles a virtual console and I'm sure we all do sometimes but lately I've been doing a little programming and if I accidentally gib a string argument then it corrupts the console every single time so I quickly run out of all 6 consoles and am forced to reboot. Now, there has GOT to be a way to recover a scrambled console, right? Why isn't there protection for this in the first place? I don't see why this would ever be desired behavior, unless this property is somehow essential for 'correctness'? Anyways, any help appreciated. Also, if there are any vim users reading this what does ^x ^s do? I sometimes accidentally type this when I mean to save a file (bad habit from using ae), and this seems to lock up vim pretty hard. Chris
Re: annoying Win95 workaround
I to use and love System Commander. If both of these partitions you created are primary partitions, you may have System Commander set up to hide one of your primary partitions when the other is active. This is a very useful feature to be able to set primary partition visibility for each OS selection, as Windows 95 and NT can sometimes do very bad things if they find another Microsoft OS on a primary partition. If you're ever in doubt or get confused about what your current settings are, you can always run Linux's cfdisk to see all your partitions and their IDs. Whenever System Commander is set up to set a primary partition hidden for a specific OS selection, it adds 10 to the partition's ID value, even if the partition is not a DOS type, which is a rather undesirable behavior. DOS FAT 12 ID: 01 DOS FAT 16 ID: 04 DOS FAT 16 ( > 32MB):06 DOS FAT 12 hidden: 11 DOS FAT 16 hidden: 14 DOS FAT 16 hidden ( > 32MB): 16 Linux Ext2: 83 Amoeba: 93 As you can see, adding 10 to any DOS partition type makes it hidden, but if your Linux partition is also a primary partition and you set it as hidden, then adding 10 to it's ID will make it an Amoeba partition. You can go to the "Local special options" menu for each OS selection in System Commander's menu to set primary partition visibililty for each OS selection. Linux's cfdisk will let you change just the ID of a partition if you ever manage to screw things up. Good luck, Chris Charles Perry wrote: > > I need to run my Win95 programs for work related reasons...not because I like > microsoft. > > With that said, I install Debian a few months ago and loved it. That is until > it kept causing Win 95 to lose partitions. I would set up everything I needed > in Win 95 (2 partitions so that the linux kernel can be put within the first > 1024). I had an c: and e: drives. (I use system commander for the multi > booting) After I booted Linux a couple of times, I would lose the e: drive. > This happened many times. Anyone ever heard of this > > Igor Grobman wrote: > > > Some time around Sat, 08 Aug 1998 16:49:25 EDT, > > Charles Perry wrote: > > > This is the HowTo that I was looking @...would this work if I wanted to > > > run Win95 on top of Linux vice versa?? > > > > This question should really be directed to debian-user@lists.debian.org . > > Ext2 drivers only let you see the linux partition, but do not let you run > > linux on top of win95. However, there are some alpha windows emulators for > > linux (wine and twin) which you could use to run some win95 applications on > > top of linux. > > > > -- > > Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation > > Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Colors
Kinda a late reply, but I got around to checking out that bash themes page today. Did you actually get them to look right in the console? I got them to look right in xterm's and rxvt's by loading non-default fonts but are these usable for the basic console? Martin Bialasinski wrote: > > >> "LA" == Luiken, Arijan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > LA> is it possible to display colors (ansi) in your prompt and ifso HOW > > Check http://chem20.chem.und.nodak.edu/themes/bash.html > > Ciao, > Martin > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Making directories writable recursively for user account.
Hi, I have a 1 GB ext2 partition I made that I mount as /pub where I like to keep tarballs and debs of software I download, so I have a pretty complete /pub/debian/... tree etc. Lately I've been downloading lots of software and the tarballs and debs usually just get downloaded to /home/cbarry because I don't have write permissions elsewhere and when there gets to be a lot of different debs in /home/cbarry and it comes time to put them in there proper place in /pub/debian it gets to be a real pain finding out where each one goes by zgreping Contents-i386.gz so I figure I should just make /pub/debian and all subdirectories writable from my user account and download them to the proper location in the first place but how would I go about making all those directories writable for my account? Thanks, Chris
Re: xf86config && libraries ....
Nuno Carvalho wrote: > > Hi, > > At the moment i'd two problems : > > 1. on my xf86config file I had the Videoram commented on Section > "Device": > > Section "Device" > #VideoRam 4096 > > I already uncommented it and X worked also! > Should I let such line commented !? Probably doesn't matter. The proper videoram ammount is autodetected fine for most cards. > 2. I installed Communicator 4.5b1 but I got the following error : > > $ ./netscape > can't load library 'libXt.so.6' > > I had such file !! I already installed xlibg6 and xlibg6-dev packages > !! > I already ran ldconfig and ldd netscape gives me that such files are > not found !! > I also export to PATH environment /usr/X11R6/lib such as also created > LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable !! > Sounds like you grabbed the libc5 compiled communicator. You'll either need to download older libc5 library versions of the above mentioned libraries from section 'oldlibs' or you'll need to download the Linux-glibc build of communicator from Netscape's ftp site. > Thanks. > > Best Regards, > Nuno > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
wmaker 0.14.1 autostart file location.
Hi all, I've got a great 1600x1200 jpg and after reading through all the docs I found 2 different ways to set it as the background: $ xv -root -quit -max /usr/share/wallpaper/foo.jpg or $ wmsetbg /usr/share/wallpaper/foo.jpg However, the most currently packaged wmaker I can find for Debian is 0.14.1 and the latest is 0.17.5, and most documentation for wmaker off the web and the official windowmaker.org site seems to apply to 0.15 and above. So putting one of the above in ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/autostart as the documentation specifies does not work. So how do I get this jpg loaded as the wallpaper every time I start X? Thanks, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
What xfsft is.
Remco van de Meent wrote: [...] > > By the way, what is "xfsft" ? It's a replacement for the standard xfs that comes with X11 that supports truetype fonts. So rather than having to run two font servers if you want to use TTF fonts, you need only run one. To find out more, visit: http://www.darmstadt.gmd.de/~pommnitz/xfsft.html http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/jec/programs/xfsft/ http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen/software/ xfsft AFAIK is packaged for Redhat while Debian/Slackware/Suse boxes usually run xfstt because it's far less of a pain to get working, because if you want to make an xfsft binary that works on a specific system you need to do a lengthy download of a good portion of the X11 source (XFree, X Consortium, whatever) and then do a lengthy rebuild. There are actually a few Slackware guys that, being used to the download source tarball/build it routine, have actually gone to the trouble of doing xfsft builds for their own weird configurations just for the perfection of their systems. As far as advantages of xfsft over xfstt go, I've never heard anything worthwhile or convincing that xfsft is *that* much better, though IIRC I heard someone say that the weird problem Netscape has that won't let you change the size of TTF fonts it uses even though you can actually put the number into the grayed out box does not happen with xfsft. I'd love to see someone back that claim up though before believing it. Maybe a post to a RedHat list to get confirmation if that is true is in order. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: xfstt 0.9.9-5 is not serving for some reason.
Adding FontPath "unix/:7101" solved the problem. I don't know why the xfstt installation doesn't put this in there for you automatically, or at least tell you to do it after adding ttf fonts to the proper directory, but it should. Also, why the switch to unix/:7101? Because unix/:7100 conflicts with xfs (though I never had problems)? Say, when is someone going to package xfsft for Debian anyways? Remco van de Meent wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Christopher Barry wrote: > > : I recently grabbed the latest xfstt from Slink and I removed the old > : xfstt first before upgrading (maybe this is where I went wrong). > : Anyways, the new xfstt installed without giving any error messages but > : when I started X and Netscape, Netscape was no longer using truetype > : fonts and I could no longer select them from edit -> preferences -> > : fonts. I looked at my XF86Config file and noticed there was no longer a > : FontPath "unix/:7100" entry but adding one just made X fail to start > : (could not open default font "fixed" error or something like that). I > : rebooted also before trying all of this again and xfstt starts up just > : fine at boot time so I'm clueless here. > > I'm using the same xfstt and it works for me. Are you sure the fonts are > still in place, as you said your removed your old xfstt? > > I'm running a 'normal' xfs on port 7100, and xfstt on 7101. So I specified > both in XF86Config. > > Good luck, > -Remco -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
xfstt 0.9.9-5 is not serving for some reason.
Hi all, I recently grabbed the latest xfstt from Slink and I removed the old xfstt first before upgrading (maybe this is where I went wrong). Anyways, the new xfstt installed without giving any error messages but when I started X and Netscape, Netscape was no longer using truetype fonts and I could no longer select them from edit -> preferences -> fonts. I looked at my XF86Config file and noticed there was no longer a FontPath "unix/:7100" entry but adding one just made X fail to start (could not open default font "fixed" error or something like that). I rebooted also before trying all of this again and xfstt starts up just fine at boot time so I'm clueless here. Thanks for any help, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Linus Torvalds interview
My experience also with Windows 95 has been pretty solid. I've had months of uptime with Windows 95 with the only problems being occasional GPF errors that close all open Netscape windows. But other than that it's been pretty rock solid for me as long as I haven't installed library type software or big software installations that play with the registry a lot and dlls. With Windows 98, I haven't had a single GPF error with Netscape, and pretty much everything I've run under it has been rock solid and without incident. Also, I removed my 64MB SDRAM DIMM and put in 16MB EDO for a day so (it's a long story why) and I hate to say it but Windows 98 ran very smooth on my P166mmx with 16mb, faster than my very lean compiled kernel Debian 2.0 with bone stock wmaker, because when I had Netscape mail and a few Navigator windows open there was little to no swapping to disk with Win98 (or the effect was transparent to me) but things were not so smooth with Debian 2.0/Xfree/wmaker. WinNT IS NOT SMOOTH with 16mb at all, and I don't know why this is because it's supposed to be a 'higher performance' OS than 95/98, right? As a matter of fact, NT for me has been less stable than 95/98, as I've had the blue screen of death several times with NT. I should mention though that I've broken 95' very badly by doing things like upgrading from DirectX5 to 5.2. Doing that rendered an image browser the had been working perfectly till then inoperable, and it would not uninstall properly nor reinstall, very strange behavior indeed. But of course, taking 2 hours to reinstall 95' fixes that, or any problem. I now use Debian 99.9% of the time though because it's so much nicer overall. I'm able to get work done much faster and it's much more manageable than 95'/98' and has been 100% reliable for me. Whenever something is screwed up, it always turns out to be my fault with Debian, which I like. Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:03:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Ever try replacing a Motherboard on a "win95" system? > > Yes. In fact, I swapped machines around the HDs to test a theory of > mine. > > > That "fabulous, great, decent OS" loses it's mind! You see, all > > information about the hardware is kept in the registry files. When the > > Id's of the old MB (in the registry) don't match the new Id's of the new > > MB, all H-LL breaks loose. > > That hell, of course, is that Windows is updating the drivers supplied > by the manufacturer(s) for their motherboard. One reboot is all that is > needed. I know, like I said, I did it. Swapped a whole machine around the > HDs. One machine had Win95 on it, another had Win95 and WinNT. > > Am I advocating Windows? No. What I am doing is quelling some serious > BULLSHIT here. > > > In contrast, Linux boots up without so much as a single hick-up and runs > > fine! > > This is also true since I've does the "swap" of a machine from around a > HD with Linux. > > > You are right, the time is irrelevent, however, where is the "peer" review > > of > > the inner workings of Win95/98? I get extremely irritated when an > > application > > hoses the whole nine yards and I lose hours of labor to the "blue screen of > > death". I've yet to lose anything within Linux. Apparently, the "Win95 > > advocates" think that it is ok for the OS to lock down or freeze. Perhaps > > they > > are numbed by the inability to fix the problem(s). > > Apparently you're doing something wrong. Because this *LINUX* advocate > has a Win95/WinNT machine at home that rivals the uptimes of my Linux box. > I have yet to lose data on that machine because of the OS, same as my Linux > box. In fact, at one time I ran on a single machine OpenDOS, Win95, WinNT, > OS/2 and Linux (Slackware). I had no problems with any of them. > > So, no, I don't think it is right that the OS dies unexpectedly. My > experience is different than yours. Wonder why that is? I don't think I am > gifted with any knowledge that you're not. > > -- > Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my > http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my > CC: from news not wanted or appreciated| skills and labor, not my opinions! > ---+- > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Is the diskless boot possible in debian ?
Well firstly, what is that error in the log file? Can you be more specific? To read your files on the win95 partition, the command is mount -t msdos /dev/ /mnt (can be almost any directory you want). For example, say you have an IDE disk and Windows is on your first primary partition. Type: $ mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt If during the install of Debian you added vfat support then you should replace 'msdos' in the above with 'vfat' so that long file names aren't truncated. One problem with your ppp attempts may be that you didn't add ppp support during the install of debian. If are looking for some communications software to test your modem, you can grab minicom. It's a Debian package, find it at www.debian.org. In general with PPP and Debian, since they made the setup so friendly the're only a few things that could stop you from connecting that I can think of. 1) PPP support is not built in the kernel or not loaded as a module. 2) Your serial port's initialization failed. 3) Your modem's initialization string isn't right. 4) Your trying to connect as a user and aren't a member of group 'dip'. Solution is to do: as root, type 'adduser your_user_name dip'. If you think Linux is hard to install, try OpenBSD (aaaggghh :) Good luck, Christopher Christopher Wesneski wrote: > > I am having considerable trouble setting up my modem to connect to my ISP. > I'm pretty > sure I have the serial port configured but every time I run pppd via pon I > get an > error in the log file. I've read all the HOWTOs and anything else I can find > (since > no one on this list will ever help you if you don't) and I am still as lost > as I was > going in. In one of the HOWTOs they mention kermit and another program to > test (not > connect) the modem. I only have the base installed so I need to know, > 1) what am I supposed to use to test that the modem is working? > > 2) is it a pert of the base install package? > a) if not where can I get it and what do I need to do to get it running? > > 3) how can I mount(?) my win95 partition so I can access the files while in > Linux (and vice-versa)? It is a real pain to have to keep switching OSs to > read this > lists mail and browse docs online and then try something and switch back and > .. > well you get the picture. > > I can see why people complain about the learning curve. It's not a matter of > getting > up it, it's just when you do get to a point where ignorance overcomes you and > no one > is willing to help it gets very frustrating. I'm almost ready to switch back > to > Windows (gasp) full-time. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
dselect and getting rid of dependency complaining without installing packages.
Hi, This has been bugging me for awhile and now I guess I'll ask what to do about it. I've been using glibc Netscape 4.5pre1 for awhile now and I installed it with dpkg -i --force-depends using the NS4 debian installer. Whenever I use dselect I always have to exit with 'Q' or else it will keep on telling me Netscape needs all these old libs which it really doesn't. I was hoping the slink NS installer would be smart about this but it looks like it's the exact same version as the hamm. Can I just get dselect to shut up about it? Thanks, Christopher -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Using two mice under X at once.
Thank you very much. I got both of them running alongside each other perfectly now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > *- Christopher Barry wrote about "Using two mice under X at once." > | Hi all, > | > | I just today bought a really nifty keyboard with a built-in touchpad and > | the touchpad part of it uses a serial interface, while my existing mouse > | is PS/2. I can switch between them by killing X and quickly editing > | XF86Config and then restarting X, but I'm wondering if there is way to > | get X to support 2 pointing devices at once. The keyboard comes with a > | serial pass-through mouse connector so if you already have a serial > | mouse you can plug it into the keyboard instead of your motherboard so > | you can at least flip a switch on the keyboard to switch between > | touchpad and regular mouse modes. But this doesn't work for me because > | my mouse is PS/2. So is there a way to run two pointing devices > | simultaneously under X? > | > > I have the same situation. You need to use the XInput section of > XF86Config. Read the XF86Config man page. > > These are snippets from my XF86Config file. > > # Logitech Mouseman+ with 4 buttons and a wheel > Section "Pointer" >Protocol"MouseManPlusPS/2" >Device "/dev/psaux" >SampleRate 133 >Resolution 200 >Buttons 6 >ZAxisMapping5 6 > EndSection > > # keyboard with eraser pointer and two buttons(1,3) > Section "XInput" > SubSection "Mouse" > Port "/dev/ttyS0" > DeviceName "Pointer" > Protocol "Microsoft" > AlwaysCore > EndSubSection > EndSection > > | Also, one other question. How would you add 'xset m 5 0' to your > | XF86Config file? Is there a general list or howto of how to figure out > | which xset statements correspond with which XF86Config statements? For > | example, 'xset fp+ ...' is like a 'FontPath' statement but I don't know > | where to look to find these relationships. As usual, the man page and > | /usr/doc isn't too helpful. > | > > Just put the xset command in your .xinitrc, .xsession, or whatever file > you use to start all your X apps. I don't think there is a direct > mapping between all the options of xset and things in XF86Config. > > Have fun. > > -- > Brian > > Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Using two mice under X at once.
Hi all, I just today bought a really nifty keyboard with a built-in touchpad and the touchpad part of it uses a serial interface, while my existing mouse is PS/2. I can switch between them by killing X and quickly editing XF86Config and then restarting X, but I'm wondering if there is way to get X to support 2 pointing devices at once. The keyboard comes with a serial pass-through mouse connector so if you already have a serial mouse you can plug it into the keyboard instead of your motherboard so you can at least flip a switch on the keyboard to switch between touchpad and regular mouse modes. But this doesn't work for me because my mouse is PS/2. So is there a way to run two pointing devices simultaneously under X? Also, one other question. How would you add 'xset m 5 0' to your XF86Config file? Is there a general list or howto of how to figure out which xset statements correspond with which XF86Config statements? For example, 'xset fp+ ...' is like a 'FontPath' statement but I don't know where to look to find these relationships. As usual, the man page and /usr/doc isn't too helpful. Thanks, Christopher -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: fresh hamm installation...
Alan Su wrote: > > i'm doing a fresh install of hamm, and i'm just wondering: what > happened to the ftp method of installation? my choices were floppy, > cd-rom or hard drive, but no option to do an ftp install. basically, > i'm forced to do a floppy install since all i have on the system is > win98, and in their great wisdom, microsoft has not provided a way to > make a vanilla FAT partition. oh well...just curious. I'm pretty sure I've made plain old MS-DOS 6.xx compatible FAT-16 partitions with Win 98. I remember when I first used it's fdisk it asked me if I want to make all partitions FAT32 (not in those words though, they just said if you have a big hard disk say yes or something). If you answered yes, there's probably a way to go back and answer no. Also, you could just download the Debian rescue disk and when the CFDISK part comes up you could make your FAT-16 partition then. > -alan > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Help required SB16 PnP
Hi, I have the same card, and I just set it up again 2-3 days ago. If you're using Debian 2.0 hamm you won't need to download isapnptools as it is part of the base system and already installed (it may even be for 1.3 for all I know). All the documentation I needed I found by reading the manpages for isapnp.conf, isapnp, pnpdump, and by reading what was in /usr/doc/isapnptools/ I have a pnp bios, and I believe that is supposed to make things easier some how, but I know you can still get the card to work without a pnp bios. The procedure is: $ pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf (edit the isapnp.conf) $ isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf You can then see if anything works at all by just catenating any file to /dev/audio or running a sound player if you already have one installed. After this procedure you may need to edit your startup scripts to so that sound will always work after rebooting. I won't be able to help you here since it worked for me automatically without further editing. Now editing the isapnp.conf is the tricky part. When I compiled my kernel I left all the settings unchanged, since they appear to be the settings Windows for me used. Here are mine: (220) I/O base for SB check from manual of the card (7) Sound Blaster IRQ check from manual of the card (1) Sound Blaster DMA 0, 1 or 3 (5) Sound Blaster 16 bit DMA (0) MPU401 I/O base of SB16 (-1) SB MPU401 IRQ Use -1 with SB16. Now when you run pnpdump it's going to find four devices: The sound playing part, the ide cdrom connector, the stereo enhance part, and the game port. I have a scsi CDROM and no joysticks so I only set up 2 of those. If you want to set up the IDE port I there's a special file for it in /usr/doc/isapnptools/. I attached my isapnp.conf file. Before you edit this file it is huggg. I cut out most of the comments so that all that is there is what I need. With all this information combined you should be able to at least get sound working, getting it to work every time after rebooting might be another matter though from what I've heard. Good luck, Chris Ivan wrote: > > Hi EveryOne ! > > I'm trying to enable sound support on my Debian system which, according to > the reading I've done, requires recompilation of the kernel. > > Using config (the how-to or readme suggested that xconfig is not the best > to use ?) I have configured everything that I want except SOUND!!! > > The readme file says that PnP is not supported - is this still the case ? > If PnP is not directly supported can anyone advise how to work around to > enable this card to work ? ( I'm sure I'm not the only Debian user with a > PnP sound card !!! ) > > I can't remember exactly the boot remarks but is similar to > sound configuration started > sound configuration stopped > The readme or how-to indicates that I should expect information regarding > the type of support being initiated between the starting and the stopping. > The lack of information apparently indicates that the support has been > compiled but that the card is not detected. > > I therefore assume that the device settings that I am using are wrong. > > FYI, the Win95 settings are : > > IRQ 05 > DMA 01 > DMA 03 > I/O RANGE 0220 - 022F > I/O RANGE 0330 - 0331 > I/I RANGE 0388 - 038B > > I used : > > IRQ 05 > DMA 01 > DMA 03 > I/O BASE220 (first time) > I/O BASE330 (second time) > > is Linux reading these numbers as decmial or hex ? > > The next time I recompiled I used > > IRQ 05 > DMA 01 > DMA 05 (after noting that 3 is not on the "allowed" list !) > I/O BASE330 > I/O BASE388 > > Still no sound ! > > Any help very much appreciated. > > Ivan. > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null (READPORT 0x020b) (ISOLATE) (IDENTIFY *) (CONFIGURE CTL002b/1072982 (LD 0 (INT 0 (IRQ 7 (MODE +E))) (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1)) (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 5)) (IO 0 (BASE 0x0220)) (ACT Y))) # Logical device id CTL0051 # # Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required. # Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required # Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy (CONFIGURE CTL002b/1072982 (LD 2 # ANSI string -->StereoEnhance<-- # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x0138 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 1 (IO 0 (BASE 0x0100)) (ACT Y) )) (WAITFORKEY)
Re: Can only play mp3 files as root.
Richard L. Alhama wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Christopher Barry wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > A while back before I reinstalled hamm I had X11amp working perfectly > > but having since installed it again I'm having a weird problem. When I > > run X11Amp as root everything is perfect but when running it as a normal > > user it appears on screen but the volume is always set to zero and it > > never remembers my settings if I change the volume value and it also > > won't open and play any file period, even if I put it in my home > > directory and set the permissions right. I added myself to group audio > > but that didn't change anything so I don't know what is up, why I can't > > do anything with it unless I'm root. I tried reinstalling it several > > times changing that "run X11amp as root option" and that didn't change > > anything either. > > Can you decode any mp3 files using mpg123? I'm having some troubles with > X11Amp myself. So I'm using eMusic or mpg123 for an mp3 decoder. What problems specifically are you having with x11amp? The procedure for install seems to be: 1) grab x11amp from hamm 2) dselect it 3) adduser user_name audio 4) chmod 770 /dev/audio /dev/dsp /dev/mixer (after adding myself to group audio properly I wonder how many of those permissions I really needed to change) 5) log out and then back in so that the group changes go into effect X11Amp is the best looking mp3 player, as there are hundreds of skins to choose from and you can make your own with The Gimp. And as a long time NT/Windows user I'm really used to Winamp so it's nice to have the familiarity. I won't be using x11amp for forever though. I went to their page and looked all over for the source or any references to a lack thereof and then I mailed their programmer about it and he said they are planning on going commercial and may release the source to the mp3 decoder itself someday since they basically started off with an open source mpeg decoder but they will never release the source to the entire package. And since they didn't make their own gui either but rather copied Winamp's pixel for pixel, it seems that the only 'real' programming they did was the playlist editor and the ability to actually use Winamp's skins, which is not a whole lot of innovation to be releasing a commercial product, IMHO. > > Thanks for any help, > > Chris > > /\ Richard L. Alhama, Technical Support > / \--, > .o` /=" > ,,'' \/ Cyberspace Laoag,ISP > ``,,http://www2.cyberspace.com.ph/~keyoz > "Overuse of the smiley is a mark of loserhood!" --The Jargon File > *'' -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Can only play mp3 files as root.
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 28, 1998 at 03:07:37AM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: > > > I just looked at my /etc/group file for the first time. Maybe part of it > > > is wrong? I attached a copy. > > > > Okay, I did chmod 777 /dev/mixer and everything works now. Mixer is also > > root.audio, so I really am clueless here as to why I can't use them with > > 770 permissions. When I configured dialup networking way back when, all > > I did was adduser cbarry dip and I could use all those **0 root.dip > > files, so now that I'm trying to use **0 root.audio files after doing > > adduser cbarry audio I'm really confused. > > after you did the adduser, did you log out (as cbarry) and back in? > Group changes don't take effect until you do. Thank you, I'm very embarrased to admit that that's what did the trick. I never, ever shut my machine down nor log out of my user account. When I do leave my machine, I just password lock the xconsole and it goes into power saving mode, so I never have a need to log out. Again, thanks. > hamish > -- > Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 > CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Can only play mp3 files as root.
Christopher Barry wrote: > > Christopher Barry wrote: > > > > George Bonser wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Christopher Barry wrote: > > > > > > > I'm added to group audio and I had the permissions of /dev/audio and > > > > /dev/dsp set to 770 so before I file a bug report should I mess with > > > > anything else? If it would neither run as root nor as a user, that would > > > > be one thing, but this is just too weird. I can't think of any more > > > > groups or permissions that would need fiddling with. > > > > > > Maybe you missed my point ... is /dev/audio and /dev/dsp still owned by > > > the audio group or has the ownership changed to root root? > > > > > > > They've been root.audio from the beginning, I was just playing with some > > stuff though and made some progress. These are the default permissions, > > my username is cbarry and I am in group audio: > > > > $ ls -l /dev/audio /dev/dsp > > crwxrwx--- 1 root audio 14, 4 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/audio > > crwxrwx--- 1 root audio 14, 3 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/dsp > > > > I noticed I still couldn't catenate a file to /dev/audio though because > > of permission denied so I changed them to this: > > > > crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 4 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/audio > > crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 3 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/dsp > > > > Now this really has me confused. I can play files now as a user but I > > can't use the volume control and speaker balance as they do absolutely > > nothing. I'm stuck with one set volume, while again with root everything > > is perfect. If I'm a member of group audio, why did I have to change the > > permissions from what they were to write to /dev/audio? I really am a > > newbie to the unixy way of doing things with all these permissions. I've > > been using MS for too many years I guess. I guess for volume control and > > speaker balance there's another /dev device but I'll be damned if I know > > which one. > > I just looked at my /etc/group file for the first time. Maybe part of it > is wrong? I attached a copy. Okay, I did chmod 777 /dev/mixer and everything works now. Mixer is also root.audio, so I really am clueless here as to why I can't use them with 770 permissions. When I configured dialup networking way back when, all I did was adduser cbarry dip and I could use all those **0 root.dip files, so now that I'm trying to use **0 root.audio files after doing adduser cbarry audio I'm really confused. > > > > George Bonser > > > > > > Microsoft! Which end of the stick do you want today? > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > root:x:0: > daemon:x:1: > bin:x:2: > sys:x:3: > adm:x:4: > tty:x:5: > disk:x:6: > lp:x:7:lp > mail:x:8: > news:x:9: > uucp:x:10: > proxy:x:13: > kmem:x:15: > dialout:x:20: > fax:x:21: > voice:x:22: > cdrom:x:24: > floppy:x:25: > tape:x:26: > sudo:x:27: > audio:x:29:cbarry > dip:x:30:cbarry > majordom:x:31:majordom > postgres:x:32: > www-data:x:33: > backup:x:34: > msql:x:36: > operator:x:37: > list:x:38: > irc:x:39: > src:x:40: > gnats:x:41: > shadow:x:42: > staff:x:50: > games:x:60: > qmail:x:70: > users:x:100: > nogroup:x:65534: > cbarry:x:1000: -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Can only play mp3 files as root.
Christopher Barry wrote: > > George Bonser wrote: > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Christopher Barry wrote: > > > > > I'm added to group audio and I had the permissions of /dev/audio and > > > /dev/dsp set to 770 so before I file a bug report should I mess with > > > anything else? If it would neither run as root nor as a user, that would > > > be one thing, but this is just too weird. I can't think of any more > > > groups or permissions that would need fiddling with. > > > > Maybe you missed my point ... is /dev/audio and /dev/dsp still owned by > > the audio group or has the ownership changed to root root? > > > > They've been root.audio from the beginning, I was just playing with some > stuff though and made some progress. These are the default permissions, > my username is cbarry and I am in group audio: > > $ ls -l /dev/audio /dev/dsp > crwxrwx--- 1 root audio 14, 4 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/audio > crwxrwx--- 1 root audio 14, 3 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/dsp > > I noticed I still couldn't catenate a file to /dev/audio though because > of permission denied so I changed them to this: > > crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 4 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/audio > crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 3 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/dsp > > Now this really has me confused. I can play files now as a user but I > can't use the volume control and speaker balance as they do absolutely > nothing. I'm stuck with one set volume, while again with root everything > is perfect. If I'm a member of group audio, why did I have to change the > permissions from what they were to write to /dev/audio? I really am a > newbie to the unixy way of doing things with all these permissions. I've > been using MS for too many years I guess. I guess for volume control and > speaker balance there's another /dev device but I'll be damned if I know > which one. I just looked at my /etc/group file for the first time. Maybe part of it is wrong? I attached a copy. > > George Bonser > > > > Microsoft! Which end of the stick do you want today? > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/nullroot:x:0: daemon:x:1: bin:x:2: sys:x:3: adm:x:4: tty:x:5: disk:x:6: lp:x:7:lp mail:x:8: news:x:9: uucp:x:10: proxy:x:13: kmem:x:15: dialout:x:20: fax:x:21: voice:x:22: cdrom:x:24: floppy:x:25: tape:x:26: sudo:x:27: audio:x:29:cbarry dip:x:30:cbarry majordom:x:31:majordom postgres:x:32: www-data:x:33: backup:x:34: msql:x:36: operator:x:37: list:x:38: irc:x:39: src:x:40: gnats:x:41: shadow:x:42: staff:x:50: games:x:60: qmail:x:70: users:x:100: nogroup:x:65534: cbarry:x:1000:
Re: Can only play mp3 files as root.
George Bonser wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Christopher Barry wrote: > > > I'm added to group audio and I had the permissions of /dev/audio and > > /dev/dsp set to 770 so before I file a bug report should I mess with > > anything else? If it would neither run as root nor as a user, that would > > be one thing, but this is just too weird. I can't think of any more > > groups or permissions that would need fiddling with. > > Maybe you missed my point ... is /dev/audio and /dev/dsp still owned by > the audio group or has the ownership changed to root root? > They've been root.audio from the beginning, I was just playing with some stuff though and made some progress. These are the default permissions, my username is cbarry and I am in group audio: $ ls -l /dev/audio /dev/dsp crwxrwx--- 1 root audio 14, 4 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/audio crwxrwx--- 1 root audio 14, 3 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/dsp I noticed I still couldn't catenate a file to /dev/audio though because of permission denied so I changed them to this: crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 4 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/audio crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 3 Jul 20 17:45 /dev/dsp Now this really has me confused. I can play files now as a user but I can't use the volume control and speaker balance as they do absolutely nothing. I'm stuck with one set volume, while again with root everything is perfect. If I'm a member of group audio, why did I have to change the permissions from what they were to write to /dev/audio? I really am a newbie to the unixy way of doing things with all these permissions. I've been using MS for too many years I guess. I guess for volume control and speaker balance there's another /dev device but I'll be damned if I know which one. > George Bonser > > Microsoft! Which end of the stick do you want today? > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Can only play mp3 files as root.
Jens Reinsberger wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Christopher Barry wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > A while back before I reinstalled hamm I had X11amp working perfectly > > but having since installed it again I'm having a weird problem. When I > > run X11Amp as root everything is perfect but when running it as a normal > > [...] > > > directory and set the permissions right. I added myself to group audio > > but that didn't change anything so I don't know what is up, why I can't > > Did you set the owner and group of the /dev/dsp to root.audio ? > Hope that helps. I just did a chown root.audio /dev/dsp and no difference, same old problem. > Bye, Jennes > > LOAD "WIN95",8,1 > RUN > $&*!-#/> NO CARRIER -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Can only play mp3 files as root.
George Bonser wrote: > > Check the ownership and rights of the audio device and see if they got > changed. If users can not write to the device, they can not play. > > George Bonser > > Microsoft! Which end of the stick do you want today? I'm added to group audio and I had the permissions of /dev/audio and /dev/dsp set to 770 so before I file a bug report should I mess with anything else? If it would neither run as root nor as a user, that would be one thing, but this is just too weird. I can't think of any more groups or permissions that would need fiddling with. Thanks, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Can only play mp3 files as root.
Hi, A while back before I reinstalled hamm I had X11amp working perfectly but having since installed it again I'm having a weird problem. When I run X11Amp as root everything is perfect but when running it as a normal user it appears on screen but the volume is always set to zero and it never remembers my settings if I change the volume value and it also won't open and play any file period, even if I put it in my home directory and set the permissions right. I added myself to group audio but that didn't change anything so I don't know what is up, why I can't do anything with it unless I'm root. I tried reinstalling it several times changing that "run X11amp as root option" and that didn't change anything either. Thanks for any help, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Win95 and Win98 can do it. Re: Question about screen size in X and questions about Netscape
Hey, it works both ways. Say I'm in 1600x1200 and using Netscape and I'm looking at cool screenshots of some guy's enlightenment or windowmaker desktop and the jpg is 1600x1200. I can switch to 1800x1440 and Netscape will be maximised for me when the mode switch is complete so that I can see the entire desktop picture. iAlexey Vyskubov wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 26, 1998 at 12:31:48PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: > > > Netscape would automatically be maximised on screen. You don't need to > > cram 1024 points into 640, you just need the mode switching in X up to > > Windows 95 standards for God's sake so that it is intelligent enough to > > resize windows for you. > > For God's sake Linux do not think it's clever than I. > When I change screen resoulution to 880x660 from 1024x768 I do it because I > want to see a part of my screen BIGGER, not because I like bigger screen dot, > as > Winduze guess. > > -- > Alexey Vyskubov -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Win95 and Win98 can do it. Re: Question about screen size in X and questions about Netscape
Alexey Vyskubov wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 26, 1998 at 07:21:47PM +0200, Nico Fritschi wrote: > > when i change my screen resolution to a lower one i always get a screen > > which is not fixed, this means I can scroll it around and i can't see > > the whole screen. Is it possible to change that? > > What do you want to change? > > You want to see the whole screen after changing resolution to lower one? > No way. You cannot put e.g. 1024 points in 640 :) When I was using Windows 95 I downloaded the "power toy" quickres and I was able to switch between multiple color depths and resolutions on the fly and all the windows would properly resize themselves. If I was using 1600x1200 and with Netscape maximised on screen and came to a web page with a lot of fine print, I could just quickres to 1280x1024 and Netscape would automatically be maximised on screen. You don't need to cram 1024 points into 640, you just need the mode switching in X up to Windows 95 standards for God's sake so that it is intelligent enough to resize windows for you. > > You want fixed screen after resolution change? > Comment "Virtual" statements in /etc/X11/XF86Config. > > -- > Alexey Vyskubov > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Slink KDE doesn't start.
Hi all, This is a bizarre problem. I have installed previous versions of KDE error and hassle free and the other day I decided to grab KDE 1.0 from Slink and the dpkg -i install went without errors and then I modified /etc/X11/window-managers so that KDE would be the first to start and when I typed 'startx' the screen switched over to a generic no-window-manager-loaded-yet screen where there is just the little x in the middle of the screen and the background is still that black and white dotted pattern thing for a split second, and then X shuts down and when I'm returned to the prompt the text left on screen is exactly the same as if I had just run a normal session. There are no error messages like "couldn't connect to xserver" or anything. If I start an X session with olvwm or fvwm2 and then in an xterm type 'kde' I get error messages about being unable to load shared object files but doing dpkg -S shows that I have these files installed. Thanks in advance for any help guys, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Signaling end of input with EOF by keyboard instead of file.
Hi all, Say I have command 'foo' that takes a file 'bar' as input and does something useful with it and is run like this: $ foo < bar Now foo expects EOF to stop accepting input and to exit and when filtering in files as in the example above everything is perfect but foo can also be run stand alone: $ foo _ and there doesn't seem to be anyway to send foo EOF with the keyboard to cause it to exit so it runs forever until it's process is killed. So can I send the EOF character with the keyboard? Thanks, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: libs...................
I remember having to download that from either Jim Pick's page, www.jimpick.com, or Shaleh's page, www.livenet.net/~shaleh/ to get the latest version. phillip Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > im looking for a lib called "LIBUNGIF3G". > Where can i get it?? > > Thakns, Phillip Neumann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Ultra2
You do need to jumper it if it is to be run in Ultra-Wide Single Ended (SE) mode, which is the only way to run the drive if you have a 2940UW or do not yet have U2W support for your 2940U2W. Lawrence wrote: > you don't need to jumpper the seagate cheetah lp scsi hard disk, it is > auto-detected. According to seagate, you will see a burst if plug your > u2w hard disk in u2w controller. > > Lawrence > > Christopher Barry wrote: > > > > A lot of U2W disk drives can be jumpered to run in UW single ended mode, so > > that they > > can be run on a 2940UW or a 2940U2W without the U2W connecter working yet. > > I should note > > though that the cable that comes with U2W controllers (part # ACK-68I-U2W) > > uses a > > differential terminator and cannot be used to connect U2W drives to a > > 2940UW or to the > > UW connector on a 2940U2W and this is important because U2W drives being > > truly > > differential, like SCA drives, come with no means to provide termination, > > which must be > > provided by the cable. I've just had some email with Adaptec and Seagate > > about this > > because I might buy a second generation Seagate Cheetah which is a lot > > faster than the > > first generation Cheetah but is only available with U2W or better > > interfaces, and I see > > no need to spend over $300 for a new motherboard or 2940U2W card when I'm > > very happy > > with my 2940UW. So I'm ordering the U2W Cheetah and Adaptec's actively > > terminated UW > > ribbon cable (ACK-W2W-5IT) and I'm set. > > > > I only bothered to write this because if you already have a U2W controller > > you can run > > U2W drives under Linux right now and you don't need to wait if you already > > possess or > > purchase an actively terminated UW cable and if you are interested in > > running a U2W > > drive without U2W SCSI you'll probably be able to so also without spending > > extra cash > > for an interface that provides 3-4 times more bandwidth you'll ever need > > unless you have > > a RAID. > > > > Markus Lechner wrote: > > > > > Hi Lawrence, > > > > > > I read on the kernel-list that the new boards run all except U2W - but > > > they > > > are working on it and it may soon be done. You can use the other > > > SCSI-Parts up to UW-SCSI without any problems. You simply can't use the > > > U2W-Part of your controller until they (the kernel and driver > > > developers) > > > get it done. I'm buying a new MB with U2W in a week, for example :) > > > > > > ok, > > > > > > Mac > > > > > > Lawrence wrote: > > > > > > > > Does the current adaptec driver support Adaptec 2940U2W (Ultra2 Wide) > > > > scsi card? > > > > > > > > Lawrence > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > > > -- > > > Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The > > > Prometheus-Project > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]| > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for > > > Project-Team) > > > PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Ultra2
A lot of U2W disk drives can be jumpered to run in UW single ended mode, so that they can be run on a 2940UW or a 2940U2W without the U2W connecter working yet. I should note though that the cable that comes with U2W controllers (part # ACK-68I-U2W) uses a differential terminator and cannot be used to connect U2W drives to a 2940UW or to the UW connector on a 2940U2W and this is important because U2W drives being truly differential, like SCA drives, come with no means to provide termination, which must be provided by the cable. I've just had some email with Adaptec and Seagate about this because I might buy a second generation Seagate Cheetah which is a lot faster than the first generation Cheetah but is only available with U2W or better interfaces, and I see no need to spend over $300 for a new motherboard or 2940U2W card when I'm very happy with my 2940UW. So I'm ordering the U2W Cheetah and Adaptec's actively terminated UW ribbon cable (ACK-W2W-5IT) and I'm set. I only bothered to write this because if you already have a U2W controller you can run U2W drives under Linux right now and you don't need to wait if you already possess or purchase an actively terminated UW cable and if you are interested in running a U2W drive without U2W SCSI you'll probably be able to so also without spending extra cash for an interface that provides 3-4 times more bandwidth you'll ever need unless you have a RAID. Markus Lechner wrote: > Hi Lawrence, > > I read on the kernel-list that the new boards run all except U2W - but > they > are working on it and it may soon be done. You can use the other > SCSI-Parts up to UW-SCSI without any problems. You simply can't use the > U2W-Part of your controller until they (the kernel and driver > developers) > get it done. I'm buying a new MB with U2W in a week, for example :) > > ok, > > Mac > > Lawrence wrote: > > > > Does the current adaptec driver support Adaptec 2940U2W (Ultra2 Wide) > > scsi card? > > > > Lawrence > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > -- > Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The > Prometheus-Project > [EMAIL PROTECTED]| > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for > Project-Team) > PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Specifying Ultra-SCSI? Re: RAM SIZE large than 64MB
I don't know enough about it to comment on it either. Did you add the "aic7xxx=ultra" to 'append=' yourself though or was this done automatically? Oliver Elphick wrote: > Christopher Barry wrote: > >> In /etc/lilo.conf, > >> ... > >> # Linux - 2.0.33 > >> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.33 > >> label=linux2033 > >> append="mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra" > >> > > > >Which specific Adaptec chipset are you using? The 7880? I have a 2940UW PCI > >card and I > > I have the same card. > > >never bothered to enter any settings related to it in lilo.conf because > duri > >ng bootup > >I get messages about it being set to 20MHz in Wide 16-bit mode, so I'm > getti > >ng UW mode > >automatically. Does that setting make the SCSI part of the bootup faster? > Th > >e SCSI > >part is the only part of my bootup that isn't lightening fast right now. > I'v > >e thought > >of playing with the kernel compile option to lower the wait count from 5 > sec > >onds, but > >thought maybe that's not such a hot idea. > > I don't know enough about the SCSI drivers to comment on this. > > This is what I get in /proc/scsi/aic7xxx/0; do you think I can do better?: > > Adaptec AIC7xxx driver version: 4.1/3.2 > Compile Options: > AIC7XXX_RESET_DELAY: 15 > AIC7XXX_TAGGED_QUEUEING: Disabled > AIC7XXX_PAGE_ENABLE: Disabled > AIC7XXX_PROC_STATS : Enabled > > Adapter Configuration: >SCSI Adapter: Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI host adapter > (AIC-788x chipset) >Host Bus: Wide > Base IO: 0xec00 > Base IO Memory: 0xffafb000 > IRQ: 10 >SCBs: Used 4, HW 16, Page 16 > Interrupts: 81391 > Serial EEPROM: True >Extended Translation: Enabled > SCSI Bus Reset: Enabled > Ultra SCSI: Enabled > Disconnect Enable Flags: 0x > > Statistics: > CHAN#A (TGT 0 LUN 0): > nxfers 41388 (38837 read;2551 written) > blks(512) rd=491364; blks(512) wr=9810 > < 512 512-1K 1-2K 2-4K 4-8K 8-16K 16-32K 32-64K 64-128K >128K > Reads: 1 0 29410572 1845 2824872 3307 6 0 > Writes: 0 0 2075203 14259 0 0 0 0 > > CHAN#A (TGT 1 LUN 0): > nxfers 30 (30 read;0 written) > blks(512) rd=24; blks(512) wr=0 > < 512 512-1K 1-2K 2-4K 4-8K 8-16K 16-32K 32-64K 64-128K >128K > Reads: 6 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > Writes: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > > CHAN#A (TGT 6 LUN 0): > nxfers 39895 (37691 read;2204 written) > blks(512) rd=641846; blks(512) wr=24234 > < 512 512-1K 1-2K 2-4K 4-8K 8-16K 16-32K 32-64K 64-128K >128K > Reads: 1 0 27357327 1217 2587 1375 4822 5 0 > Writes: 0 0 1393164 88 15544 0 0 0 > > -- > Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver >PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 > > "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only > begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should > not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16 > -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Specifying Ultra-SCSI? Re: RAM SIZE large than 64MB
Oliver Elphick wrote: > "Alex Kwan" wrote: > >I have seen the FAQ on FreeBSD documents, > >It was said that if the system have more than > >64MB RAM, the user needed to use kernel > >option specified the actual RAM size, > >because I want to extend the RAM to 128M > >in my Hamm, so I have two questions: > >(1) Does the Linux is seem? > > That question isn't English; I suppose you mean: Is Linux the same? > > The answer is, yes. > > >(2) If needed, how to? > > > > In /etc/lilo.conf, add an append option specifying the actual amount > of memory: > > ... > # Linux - 2.0.33 > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.33 > label=linux2033 > append="mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra" > Which specific Adaptec chipset are you using? The 7880? I have a 2940UW PCI card and I never bothered to enter any settings related to it in lilo.conf because during bootup I get messages about it being set to 20MHz in Wide 16-bit mode, so I'm getting UW mode automatically. Does that setting make the SCSI part of the bootup faster? The SCSI part is the only part of my bootup that isn't lightening fast right now. I've thought of playing with the kernel compile option to lower the wait count from 5 seconds, but thought maybe that's not such a hot idea. > ^^^ > read-only > ... > > -- > Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver >PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 > > "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only > begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should > not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16 > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: linux + win95: linux boot partition/
Hi, SCSI is not so expensive anymore, just check out www.pricewatch.com and www.shopper.com. Unless you want the latest bleeding edge Adaptec 2940U2W controller, you don't have to dish out a lot of dough for scsi. And there are a lot of $160 4.5 GB Quantum Viking 7200RPM 8ms disks floating around on those pages. They use an 80 pin SCA interface, but you can get an adapter to 68-pin for another $20. That's a whole lot of high performance storage for the price, and storagereview.com rated the viking very well to. Nils Rennebarth wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 1998 at 03:26:00PM -0400, Richardson,Anthony wrote: > > As larger hard drives become more common, maybe soon we'll be talking > > about the 1024/8 GB problem. As in "Help I've installed Linux in the last > > 1 GB of my 10 GB drive and LILO won't boot it." > That really is a serious concern. Sigh, why is SCSI so expensive? > > Nils > > -- > *-* > | Quotes from the net: L> Linus Torvalds, W> Winfried Truemper > | > | L>this is the special easter release of linux, more mundanely called 1.3.84 > | > | W>Umh, oh. What do you mean by "special easter release"?. Will it quit > | > * W>working today and rise on easter? > * > > > >Part 1.2 Type: application/pgp-signature -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Web transaction security.
Jaakko Niemi wrote: > > > This is a ns bug. Really funny, when you are paying bills through > a www-service. Or entering passwords/uids/urls... > > --j There was a big discusion in one of the slashdot.org poles awhile back, I believe the pole was something like "would you use (or do you trust) online shopping?". The consensus of the discussion was that it's actually SAFER to give your credit card # over the web. For the million different reasons, I suggest you look up this pole on the slashdot page and read it. I never trusted online commerce before, but now I use it often. Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Time Server
Hi, I used a freeware program for windows a long time ago that set my bios clock to the time served from a local atomic clock, but I don't remember where I got it from. It may have been download.com or something and it wouldn't be of use to you anyways being that it's for windows, but maybe the guy that did the windows version also did the Linux version? If you find it for Linux, be sure to drop me the url so I can fetch it to. This actually would be a good thing to package for Debian come to think of it. Chris Daniel Mashao wrote: > Long time ago when I was new to Linux I had a nice program that updated my > system clock with time from somewhere on the net. Now I need that program > again and have a hard time finding it using search engines and searching > the infinite sunsite. Anybody knows what I am talking about and where I > can find it? > > /--/ > Daniel J. Mashao > Electrical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] > University of Cape Town http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel > Rondebosch, 7700, S. Africa (w) 27+21+650 2816 (h) 27+21+705 8469 > /--/ > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: [Debian] iso9660 in 2.0.34 ?
Ya know, The 'kernel-package' package automates all of this for you. I had troubles getting modules to work even though I thought I did all the steps (make dep ; make clean ; make bzImage ; make modules ; make modules_install ; depmod -a. Then symlinking the new kernel and running lilo. The kernel booted and all built in support worked perfect but modules didn't. Leaving my config file unchanged I used kernel-package and everything worked.). If you use the kernel-package package you don't need to worry about copying or editing or symlinking and files, it's all done for you and it works PERFECTLY. At least for me. In the modules support section of the configuration make sure to enable the third option that lets you use kerneld for autoloading of modules. Chris Jay Barbee wrote: > > Nico, > > > > During your 'make menuconfig', enable the NLS support and you will get > > the option for ISO9660, FAT, VFAT, etc... > > > > I recompiled mine and I still cannot get the ISO, FAT or VFAT to mount. I > also > cannot load this module manually? I have not looked into this too hard, but > I > have been reading this thread on the list. What I have done (I am not sure if > this is bad or not) is copy the .config from the old kernel to the new one? > I was > going to can this and start from scratch. Could this be the source of so many > peoples (including mine) problems? > > --Jay Barbee > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: its not a dos partition?
John Martin wrote: > I tried creating a second primary dos partition with linux' fdisk since > dos' won't let me have more than one primary. (my first clue maybe) Dos won't let you create more than one primary partition when one is already set 'active' (bootable). Dos's fdisk won't let you set an active primary partition to non-active so that you can create another primary partition so you must use a different utility to do this first (such as linux's fdisk). Once you've done that, Dos's fdisk will let you set whichever primary partition you want active to 'active'. > Then I format with dos. Mother MUST have her > dos/window3.1/I-won't-give-95. Dos can read and write to that partition > but linux says notdos/other error when I try to mount. I'm not 100% clear on what you are saying here but if you mean you've already installed linux and are trying to mount a dos partition then you must make sure that you have dos fat filesystem support compiled into the kernel either directly or as a module. To do this, download the 'kernel-source' and 'kernel-package' packages and: $ cd /usr/src/kernel-source* $ make menuconfig During this step you must enable 'native languages support' in the filesystems part to make the various dos filesystem types appear. $ make-kpkg kernel-image $ cd .. $ dpkg -i kernel-image* That should do it. Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: libc6 Netscape form problems
Hi, Netscape probably is the problem. I downloaded the glibc Netscape from ../development to because Netscape was the only libc5 app I was using and if I switched to glibc Netscape I would have a 'clean' glibc-only system. But I had problem after problem with it. It would freeze on web page loads all the time and moving the window around would erase the graphics and wallpaper from anything it moved over and I was constantly having to ctrl-alt-backspace out of X because neither alt-q nor killing it's pid nor anything else will unfreaze it or get rid of it. When I first installed it everything seemed okay, but it seems to gradually grow worse the more you use it. libc5 Netscape has been flawless for me. Runs much better that in Windows, because I've never had a 'general protection fault' dialogue box that forces me to close all my Netscape windows, and I get GPF errors in 95' and NT' at least once every other day. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am running the libc6 version of Netscape 4.05 and am experiencing > some strang problems when entering text into text fields. Something > keeps appending random binary bits to the end of the strings and it > really screws things up. Sometimes it isn't even apparent in the field > and other times it is. This is really fun when trying to order things > on the web!! As an example I tried placing an order for 2 items and it > somehow converted it to 21!!! Yikes! Or as another example I entered > "free source" into yahoo's search field and it said that I had entered, > "free sourceü^¾¤-?ü^¾¤-?h=5>". What gives. I suppose I could > re-install the libc5 version of Netscape but if Netscape is not the > problem I don't want to download the 11+M over my 31.2k dialup. > > Thanks, > > -- > Brian > -- > Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: fvwm2 config hook rant
Tom Malloy wrote: But there is just no reason or justification for organizing configuration files in this confusing and intimidating manner. Applications, and os's, should be usable and reasonably configurably at every level of userability. Well then, if that's what you want then get KDE or something. It's a lot of work to make a 'reasonably configurable' window manager, and maybe the FVWM2 guys don't have the time, or don't care. They made something they like, and made it free to use for whoever wants to download it or get a cd with it. If you don't like that, get something else. I get frustrated with hamm sometimes because setting up ANY piece of hardware has been ten times the pain I've had with my extensive Windows experience, at least this has been my personal experience with Debian, maybe some of you have had an easier time for all I know. If you like the leaness and meaness of FVWM2, you'll have to learn it's mean configuration system. You might like this sight: http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman/ It contains screenshots and configuration files for the screenshots for nearly all of the popular window managers. I personally am using KDE right now. I'd say it ties with windowmaker and gnome used together, which is what I used before. Windowmaker and gnome w/ rxvt is prettier than KDE but I find with the K environment I can do pretty much anything instantly and in a number of different ways to. And the 1.0 release of KDE was announced today to, so it should be packaged for Debian Real Soon Now and you should definately check it out if you haven't already. The online help and configuration is even easier to use than Windows, IMHO. Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
There is something weird with Debian's partition boot setup.
Hi, Since you can't get your system to the root prompt I suppose this won't help you much, but I to have encountered problems with how Debian sets up itself to boot from a partition during an install. I have encountered this problem with both my 1.3 install from long ago and my recent hamm install. Basically, during the Debian install when I am asked to set up Debian to boot from the hard disk, I answer yes to the questions that ask if I want to make the partition Debian is installed on bootable and if I want the partition active, and I answer no to the MBR installation because I use a boot manager (System Commander). After rebooting Debian fails to boot directly from hard disk, and System Commander reports that the partition boot record appears corrupted. Using the boot disk works though and once in Debian if I type 'liloconfig' and then proceed to make the EXACT same selections that I made during the initial Debian install and then reboot, it works perfectly. I did not have this problem with Red Hat either. I guess this is a bug with Debian. For what it's worth, Chris Mike Harmon wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am a Debian newbie. Actually I'm ALMOST a Linux newbie. > > My system environment is as follows: > > IBM Mod 365 200 MHz Pentium Pro system (32 MB RAM) > HD 0 is a 2.5 GB IDE (NT 4.0 loaded) > HD1 is a 540 MB IDE (Linux) > Network Card is an IBM Auto 16/4 Token Ring ISA card > > I'm using BOOTPART to allow my NT boot manager to boot Linux > > Here are my questions/problems: > > 1. After I installed the base disks and went through the config steps, I got > to > the point where I was asked whether I wanted to set up Linux to boot from the > HD. I said 'yes'. I received an error message telling me that it was > impossible to boot from the second HD, even though it used to work fine with > Red Hat 4.2. I was expecting the config program to ask me whether I wanted to > use the MBR or place the boot sector on the first track of the Linux boot > partition, but it didn't. > > 2. When I tried to reboot the system (by selecting my 'Linux' choice from the > NT boot menu), I got the following screen: > > Disk formatted with WinImage 2.20 (c) 1993-95 Gilles Vollant. > Bootsector from C. H. Hochstatter. > > No Systemdisk. Booting from harddisk. > Cannot load from harddisk. > Insert Systemdisk and press any key. > > 3. I inserted my rescue disk and pressed . At the boot: prompt, I > entered: rescue root=/dev/hdb1 > > 4. The system responded with: > > Loading linux . . . > > and proceeded with the boot process. > > After the normal two dozen or so boot messages, I got to the following point > in the boot process: > > Checking all file systems . . . > Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97) > /dev/hdb5: clean, 11/16632 files, 2129/66496 blocks > /dev/hdb6: clean, 2333/92520 files, 22425/368641 blocks > Mounting local file systems . . . > /dev/hdb5 on /home type ext2 (rw) > /dev/hdb6 on /usr type ext2 (rw) > > and then my system froze up tight. > > I suspect that the boot freezeup is some kind of difugilty with the Token Ring > card (I never did get it to work with Red Hat 4.2). A few lines earlier on > the > boot process, I got messages indicating that the tr0 device was found, but I > never received any message indicating that the adapter had been opened > successfully. I'd really like to get the TR support to work, because that's > what we use here at work, and I'd like to be able to use Linux to connect to > the LAN. I know I have all the IP stuff set up correctly, because I had our > telecomm guru on the line while I was filling in the blanks. > > Can anyone shed some light on my somewhat dimly-lit world regarding these two > issues. > > All help will be greatly rewarded with virtual beer. > > Thanks, > > Mike Harmon > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: use *.rpm and *.tar.gz packages on Hamm
Yes, they will be happy together. At least they are on my system, because I found the glibc Netscape was in 'development' for good reason, so I run the libc5 version. You can get libc5 in section 'oldlibs'. Alex Kwan wrote: > Hi, > > the alien needs the "rpm" and > the "rpm" needs the libc5, > (I checked these on www.debian.org/Packages) > Hamm is using the libc6, > Will the libc5 and libc6 happy to-gather? > > >> (1) Can I use the Redhat (*.rpm) and > >> Slackware (*.tar.gz) packages on > >> Hamm? If can, How to? > > > >Yeah, you can.. I suppose you have to install alien pacakge first.. > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Mouse not working
Hi there, Firstly I should mention that you should download and install the VGA-16 xserver so that you can just type XF86Setup to set up the mouse and everything else. That said, it sounds like you have either not compiled PS/2 mouse support into your kernel or you didn't install the module for PS/2 mouse support during the initial install of Debian. It is located in the 'misc' section during the 'configure the base system' part of the install. If support is in the kernel then /dev/psaux should be the device name for the PS/2 mouse, at least 99% of the time as far as I know. Now if you did forget to do this during the initial install of Debian then as far as I know you'll have to either: a) reinstall Debian, which might not be a bad idea if you haven't installed a whole lot of software yet. b) recompile the kernel. If you want to recompile the kernel, download the kernel-source and kernel-package packages and install them and then do this: $ cd /usr/src/kernel-source* $ make menuconfig (this is much nicer to use than 'make config') $ make-kpkg kernel-image $ cd .. $ dpkg -i kernel-image* That should do the trick to get your mouse going. Chris Avalon Rusk wrote: > I cannot get my mouse to work when running xbase-configure. I am > running the program as root. When I get to the mouse screen, I have > tried all the combinations of mouse protocols and many names (ttys0 to > ttys3). I don't have the technical info on my hardware and have had > difficulties configuring my hardware. > > Is there a program that will help me figure out what hardware I have as > well as IRQ's, and other technical information? > > Otherwise, my mouse has 6 pins and a centre post. I thought it was a > PS2 mouse, but I can't get the settings for PS2 to work. > > There are dozens of names for the mouse (tty**) and admittedly I haven't > tried every one, but hopefully there is an easier way. > > Help? > > __ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Installing gnome
What's the url to slink anyways? -- Chris btw: That's really nifty to know the install order. I downloaded and installed Gnome last week, the last time I saw those two URLs posted to the list. I remember installing one deb, then getting a ton of errors about dependencies on other debs, and then getting tons of dependency errors by trying to install those debs that the other deb was dependent on, but after spending awhile at it I got the order right. Shaleh wrote: > I never assume how much of a newbie you are (-: Ok, step one. Go to > www.livenet.net/~shaleh/software and get the imlib packages, you only > need the -dev ones if you intend to compile things. Install them in > this order: imlib-base, libimlib, libgdk-imlib, imlib-progs (then the > -dev's if you want them). Now go to www.jimpick.com. You need libgnome > (and the -dev if desired), libgtkxhtml, gnome-core. This is enough to > install (almost) any other package desired. When you download a .deb if > you run "dpkg -I mydeb.deb" where mydeb.deb is the deb package name, > dpkg will tell you what files it depends on. > > OR you can wait another week and GNOME should be in slink, and you can > just use dselect to grab it. > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: dual boot?? win98???
I use System Commander (v3) also and I think it's a really great piece of software. Haven't tried v4, which gives you the functionality of Partition Magic built in. It's much prettier than lilo. It brings up a nice colorful iconified menu and plays a cute sound and you can configure it to do a number of things like manage which partitions are visible to which OSes, provide additional boot time security, display a graphical timeout to OS selection bar, etc., etc. It can provide different system configuration files to different OSes or different configurations of the same OS on the same partition, so you could boot DOS on the first primary partition with one autoexec.bat file that includes "win" and another one that doesn't, and have a "DOS" and a "Windows 3.11" entry in the menu, for example. I'm trying to think of good features to mention off the top of my head, there are a lot. If you install A LOT of different OSes, System Commander will serve you better than lilo, as you can pretty much install and boot any OS on any partition hassle free and manage them. But for *just* win/linux/dos I guess you'll be fine with lilo and you can use the cash to buy more RAM. I've had hamm, RH 5.1, NT 4.0, NT 5.0, Win 98, Win 95, DOS, and DOS w/ win 3.11 all installed at the same time, but found that all I ever use is Win 95 and hamm, so I removed all of them except for Win 95, hamm, and DOS on a 16mb partition which I need for firmware updates and for System Commander itself. Win 95 is next to go to :) I thought Red Hat 5.1 was nice, but you really need to get the CD if you want to install it right, as they make getting it via ftp a HUGE hassle. And you need to D/L like 50mb+ files just for the base system it seems, and it's a large number of files to, not just big tarball. And the package management sucks if you don't actually have ALL the RPMs on a mounted medium, because it will spit error after error at you unless you edit a file similar to Debian's Packages.gz by hand, which is a real pain. Red Hat's web site is more like a big advertisement to, Debian's is s much nicer. It lets you get to the meat right away, and there's more, better meat to. :) It does seem though that Red Hat is the first to get cool new software in RPMs, or the latest version. They've had Enlightenment and Gnome RPMs for some time now, and they also get to use xfsft instead of the xfstt we are stuck with, and appears will be for a good while. Evan Van Dyke wrote: > > From: Len Cumbow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 1998 12:19 PM > > To: S K; debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: dual boot?? win98??? > > > > Look into System Commander. It's a boot manager with > > specific support for > > Linux > > as well as the various flavors of Windows, DOS, OS/2 and > > other Unixes. You > > can > > get it at any retail computer store for under $50. Works great. > > Why not use LILO which comes Free with Linux and works fine for > Linux/Windows/Dos booting? If you're using OS/2 or NT, they come with > bootloaders that can access Linux. WHy spend money for what you can > get free? > > --Evan > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
dir /s *.* equivalent for unix.
Hi all, I just keeping getting all these lovely questions for you. At a console, if I want to search for a file or any files with a certain extension in the current directory and all sub directories and list them, what's the best way to do this? The equivalent in DOS would be "dir /s *.whatever" but this doesn't work with ls like "ls -R *.deb", for instance. I can do "ls -R | more" and then use more's search ability but this is getting tiring. Man page isn't too helpful either. Thanks, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
What package has "patch"?
Hi all, Which package contains the "patch" utility? I've installed perl-base, perl-tk and the basic perl5 package and I was sure one of these would have it, but guess not. So where is it? Thanks, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: StarOffice 4.0
Hi, Yes, there is a way to review old messages. On www.debian.org's front page there is a link in the left navigation bar to the mailing list archives. I've spent sme time there Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry for my question, I think it has been asked hundreds of times. > > - Is there any StarOffice 4.0 package installer ? I only found the package > for version 3.x of StarOffice. > > - Is there any way to review old messages since I think this question > has already been asked ? > > Thanks > Franck > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
xfstt final setup questions.
Hello everyone, I found a nice large thread in the June archives that talks about xfstt a good bit, it begins with http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9806/msg00176.html I installed xfstt and copied over all the *.ttf fonts from the windows/fonts directory on the win95 partition to /var/ttfonts/winfonts and added the FontPath "unix/:7100" entry to /etc/X11/XF86Config and when I first tried starting x it failed and spewed a ton of errors so I switched to a new virtual console and typed xfstt and then switched back and tried startx again and this time it worked, and I am able to select ttf fonts in Netscape now and WOW!!! what a difference, it's really nice. I'm assuming the problem lies with init.d but the above thread seemed to suggest that the latest xfstt installs the proper init.d for you so once you copy over the ttf fonts and add the FontPath line to XF86Config you are set to go, but I'm not there yet as I must manually start xfstt in another console. So what do I need to do? Thank you everyone, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Deselect
Type 'dselect' at the prompt. Jonathan Bruce wrote: > How do I run deselect after installing Linux? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Netscape install problems .. please help ???
I tried this, because when I did an archives search I found a small thread that talked about this bug. Switching to 16 or 32 did not work for me. Is there *anyone* that this actually worked for, specifically jumping from 24 to 32, because don't 24 and 32 both support the same number of colors (2^24), and 32 just uses the 8 extra bits for something else? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > seems we have a problem here ... it relieves me from feeling totally > > dumb. Anyone could suggest the SAFE way of setting things up for the > > COLOUR Netscape ??? Thanks. > > >> Now I have > >> running Netscape but it is black and white, and I don't know what to do > >> *sigh*. > > This wouldn't be the 24bpp bug? Netscape in 24bpp gets black/white > icons... Switch X to 16 or 32 bpp and see if that works better... > > /Michael > -- > | Linux: Turn on...Tune in...Fork out... | > | Michael Tempsch, member of Ballistic Wizards, TIP#088, POG#130, PPIG#11 | > | [EMAIL PROTECTED]|hotmail.com] [EMAIL PROTECTED]| > | Cell.Phone:+46 705487554 URL:http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/%7Ed1temp | > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: NCR SCSI - which debian kernel will work
Must have been a pre-release then. The Slackware 3.5 CD has v2.0 and v2.1 directories, and he was about to install the latest 2.1, until I explained that 2.1 series are developmental, so he went to the 2.0 directory and installed the newest one in there, which was a 2.0.35, because I told him it would be safe. (I hope it will be safe :) Chris Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 12:42:52AM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: > > One of my friends just installed Slackware and had the same problem. He > > used the > > 2.0.35 kernel but I'm pretty certain you'll be fine with the 2.0.34. I > > don't know what > > Must have been a 2.0.35 pre-release, or an error; > > finger @linux.kernel.org > [linux.kernel.org] > > The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.0.34 > The latest *beta* version of the Linux kernel is: 2.1.108 > > Hamish > -- > Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 > CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Where is the vfat, dos support in 2.0.34 ????
Hi, You know Robert, you seem to be experiencing the exact same problems I've been that I've overcome in the past 2 days with my hamm install. I posted to the list about this specific filesystem support thing in the past 48 hours or so and got a ton of replies. You need to enable the 'nls' (native languages support) option during make config, make menuconfig, whatever and then all the msdos, vfat etc. filesystems will magically appear. I think they should more clearly label this by making all of these a sub-group of nls and using the '-->' that they do with the other sub-groups, so that you know it leads to more options. Chris Robert Alexander wrote: > I just installed 2.0.34-3 source and make config did not mention the > "DOS" flesystems also tried rm .config but they do not show up. > > kernel compiled and installed just fine and runs flawlessly but of > course my > > mount -t vfat /dev/hdb6 /DATAFILES > > command failes with " ... vfat not supported by the kernel ... " > > linux/fs/filesystems.c mentions them ... > > What am I doing wrong I would badly need support for vfat and if > possible for FAT32 ... Thank you in advance for any help. > -- > Robert Alexander - IBM Italy > work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Netscape install problems .. please help ???
Hi, I just had to deal with this problem today. Netscape is a libc5 application, and you'll need some packages from section oldlibs. There is a libXt.so.6 in both xlib6g(for libc6) and in xlib6(for libc5, in section oldlibs). After installing xlib6, I don't remember if I got one or two more errors for missing files, I know that one of them was xpm4.7 and that all the packages I needed were in section oldlibs. Now I have running Netscape but it is black and white, and I don't know what to do *sigh*. Chris Robert Alexander wrote: > Where is the Netscape installer package for Communicator 4.05 to be > found > > I tried installing it out of the package system but when I try starting > netscape I get a " ... could not load libXt.so.6. > > This file, belonging to the installed xlib6g package, is in > /usr/X11R6/lib (actually its a link to libXt.so.6.0). > > Kernel 2.0.34 on an HAMM system. > > Thank you very much in advance. > > Bob Alexander > -- > Robert Alexander - IBM Italy > work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Netscape colors.
Hello all, I did a search through the archives about this and found some posts that said that Netscape will only have colored icons in the toolbar etc. in 16bpp mode. I get black and white with 16bpp, as well as 24 and 32. Why is it that the help section looks fine and is colorful, but nothing else? Is there any definitive answer to this? A long time ago, when I used to run bo, I had the same problem to, but thought Netscape for unix just doesn't have colors. I remember my shock when I saw all these pictures of people's window managers in action with TTF fonts and everything and COLORED netscape, after only spending 200 hours or so using crappy black and white Netscape with jagged fonts. I think I can tackle xfstt with the info in the list archives so far, but what about color? What do I need to do? At least tell me if most of you got colored just by default from the install when you first started up. Thanks, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: ftp, telnet & ping
I was able to use ftp via ppp with just the base2.0, drv1440, and resc1440 files downloaded and installed. Don't know about telnet or ping. Ed Cogburn wrote: > > Alex Kwan wrote: > > > > I have installed the Base System of Hamm > > and configured the ppp, can I use ftp, telnet > > and ping command right now or needed to > > install other packages to do that. > > > > > > Thank You > > Those progs are in the netstd package. Install that and the other > things > it requires (like netbase). > > -- > Ed > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: NCR SCSI - which debian kernel will work
One of my friends just installed Slackware and had the same problem. He used the 2.0.35 kernel but I'm pretty certain you'll be fine with the 2.0.34. I don't know what kernel the latest bo comes with, but you might want to consider hamm, since upgrading from bo to hamm is a considerable pain but a fresh hamm install in ways can be easier than bo, specifically for you with this issue I would imagine. Lee W. Glenn wrote: > Hi, > > After spending many hours last night and today searching the net I found a > few references to other people having similar problems to me. (The system > hangs on my NCR53c875 SCSI controller when I try boot from the rescue disk > to try and install debian "bo" 1.3.1. Incidently Caldera works...) It > appears that the kernel version that is include on the debian CD I have is > the issue. Does anyone know were I can get the appropriate kernel and how > do I use it to do this installation? > > Thanks, > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: off topic: gimp
GIMP is a really cool graphics program, and lets you do a lot of the same things Photoshop does. A good place to get started would be the official website, gimp.org. Alexander Gutfraind wrote: > Hello Fellow Debian Users! > I've noticed that many sites promoting linux and free > software > point that their site was built by GIMP. can anybody tell me > > what is GIMP? Where can I get it for a test drive? > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
X11 basic configuration files missing with hamm install.
I've installed X under bo just fine without any problems, but under hamm, during the dselecting process when it asks if you want to create the xfree86 configuration file, and I type y, I just get an error message about a missing X related file, not a missing or corrupted *.deb file or anything, and then it loops back again and asks if I want to create the configuration file, over and over. If I try and run one of the X configuration programs after this, I just get an error about missing files. Which packages under hamm contain the XF86Setup and XF86Config files that worked so nice for me under bo? If you guys could name the minimal set of packages that I need for a x11 hamm installation, it would be much appreciated, cus apparently it seems you need a lot more files than bo, where all I needed were some fonts, 2 xservers (svga, vga16 for setup), xbase, xlib6, xpm4 and a window manager. Thanks, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Installed kernel-source 2.0.34 package and half the filesystems are not supported.
I installed the 2.0.34 kernel source package and did a make menuconfig and when it comes time to select the filesystems to include support for, a ton of them appear to be missing, most notably msdos and vfat. When I installed hamm, I configured vfat support during the installation and it worked fine, but when compiling the new kernel, they don't give the option to support this. Do I need to use a different kernel source package, or what? This really has got me confused. Thanks in advance for any help, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
True Type fonts for X11?
I finally got PPP working and got Navigator 4.04 installed and was shocked to see how ugly the fonts were! They are these tiny little pixelated things that are stressful to the eyes to read. Even as I am typing this I am appalled! Where can I get more fonts, most importantly True Type fonts? I got all the fonts in section X11 so where do I go now? The text on some pages is completely unreadable, like home.netscape.com, where the browser automatically took me after firing up for the first time. Thanks. Chris Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
