Re: KDE Beta-4 with bo?

1998-04-27 Thread Heiko R. Selber
"Rev. Joseph Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

-+ On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 04:22:08PM +0200, Heiko R. Selber wrote:
-+ >
-+ > I heard that the new KDE Beta-4 was released. Unfortunately, it seems
-+ that
-+ > the .deb packages exist only in hamm. Is that true, or did someone make
-+ > new KDE packages for bo? If so, where can I get them?
-+ 
-+ I saw a bo directory on the ftp mirror.  I didn't go in it (run hamm here)
-+ but I did see the dir.  The pacakges are debianized too, not just in .deb
-+ form.

I saw the dir, too. However, it's empty. Maybe due to a transmission
error?

I am still reluctant to switch to hamm because I recently screwed up a
running bo system trying to upgrade automagically using some script I
found on the web. I would like to wait for hamm to become stable, but
upgrade KDE, mostly because kfm is rather unstable in KDE Beta3. 

Heiko

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KDE Beta-4 with bo?

1998-04-22 Thread Heiko R. Selber

I heard that the new KDE Beta-4 was released. Unfortunately, it seems that
the .deb packages exist only in hamm. Is that true, or did someone make
new KDE packages for bo? If so, where can I get them?

TIA,

Heiko

PS: Cetero censeo Debian-2.0 publicandam esse.

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Re: man hangs with less and more

1997-06-11 Thread Heiko R. Selber
> You probably have 'set -a' in /etc/profile or some of your bash startup 
> files. 
> For some reason 'set -a' causes this problem. It's also reported as bug #8390.

> The only cure I have is to remove 'set -a' from the startup files and 
> logout/login again.

> Mark Boyns wrote:
> >
> > When I run:
> > 
> >$ man ls
> > 
> > it just sits there.  ^C reveals:

I have the same problem with a hanging man (hmm...), but there is no
such
thing as 'set -a' in any of my bash startup files.

I helped myself with a QAD hack:

#!/bin/sh
for i in /usr/man /usr/local/man /usr/man/de_DE /usr/man/it_IT
/usr/X11R6/man
do
 for j in $i/man[1-9]
 do
  if [ -f $j/$1* ]
  then
   zcat $j/$1* | nroff -man | less
   exit
  fi
 done
done
echo no man page for $1

Heiko

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Special chars disappear

1997-05-04 Thread Heiko R. Selber
Hi,

I use Umlauts and other special characters quite frequently.

Those characters which are not directly available on my german keyboard
can be produced under X11 by typing AltGr (right Alt key) and a letter,
like AltGr-q for `@', AltGr-a for `æ' of AltGr-m for `µ' (I assume you can
read these MIME-encoded characters). 

However, when I fail to hit the correct key and hit a non-AltGr-able
letter key, e.g. AltGr-w instead of AltGr-q, these special chars are no
longer available in the current window, e.g. xterm, emacs etc.

This includes Umlauts (äöü), which are directly available on my keyboard. 

Thus I would have to kill emacs every time this happens and restart it in
order to be able produce Umlauts again. 

Is there a way to prevent this?

Thanks,

Heiko

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Re: Cosole Beep

1996-12-20 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, Fabien Ninoles wrote:

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-+
-+On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, Vithar wrote:
-+
-+> 
-+>   Okay, I realize that this is not neccessarily a Debian problem, but 
-+> since I am using Debian, I figured I'd ask this here anyway.  
-+> 
-+> Is there any way, short of physically disabling it, of turning off the 
-+> annoying beep on the Linux console ?  I get tired of having it beep at me
-+> whenever I try for filename completions or hit backspace one too many 
-+> times or some such.  Is there a configuration change that will do this or
-+> does the kernal need to be patched ? 
-+>
-+
-+
-+If you using bash, I sometime know about a variable (named *BELL* or
-+something matching it...) who let you choose the *right* behavioyur. Maybe
-+they're some like in tcsh. Elsewhere, you can use screen as I do for most
-+of my console session. It provides multiple windows screen session,
-+hardcopy and let you choose between none-visual-or-sound bell.

Bash uses the readline library which in turn reads a file called
"~/.inputrc". Below is a listing of mine:

rudi:~$ cat .inputrc 
set bell-style visible
set show-all-if-ambiguous On
rudi:~$ 

The first line turns the beep into a flashing screen (no beeps anymore),
and the second line makes completion work at the first hit of TAB (less
beeps for those terminals which don't have a visual bell). 

See also man readline.

Bye,
Heiko
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Re: NE 2000 cards

1996-12-19 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have the Debian Linux 1.2 instaled on my PC and I want to
> know how ca n I configure it for a NE2000 network card. Which
> program may I use?

Oi Rogerio,

You simply need to configure the kernel and recompile it.

As root, cd to '/usr/src/linux/' , read the README and do 'make config'. 

You need to specify 'network device support' 'other isa cards' and
'NE2000/NE1000 support'. 

Then compile and install the kernel, then boot it.

That works for me.

Ate logo,
Heiko
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Re: No dependancy information for modules with kernel 2.0.27

1996-12-18 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, Heiko R. Selber wrote:
> > CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
>  ^^
> Its generally a good idea _not_ to enable modversions.  There
> should be more info on it in the readme stuff with the kernel
> source.  That's why this is turned off by default in the config.
> Did you recompile _all_ of your modules when you compiled this
> kernel?  You need to do that if you have this option enabled (I
> think, anyway).

I thought the opposite is true: enable MODVERSIONS if I want to use
modules from different versions. That's what make config tells me, as I
understand it. BTW: I had recompiled all modules. 

> Of course, Dale may be right in that you
> only need to run a depmod -a.

Oops! Yes, thanks, that helped it. I must admit that I didn't read the
documentation. I wonder why I had no dependancy problems with older 2.0.x
kernels with the same config. 

One could put /sbin/depmod -a into a startup script as suggested by
Documentation/modules.txt.

Bye,
Heiko
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No dependancy information for modules with kernel 2.0.27

1996-12-17 Thread Heiko R. Selber
Hello,

I installed debian 1.2 the other day and compiled a new kernel (2.0.27)

The new kernel was unable to load any modules during bootup.

It just said: 'Can't find dependancy information for module mcd.o' and
the like.

What went wrong? Is it because I have kerneld 2.0.0? Where would I get a
kerneld 2.0.27 if such a thing exists?

Here's what I did:
'make config dep clean zImage modules modules_install ; cp \
arch/i386/boot/zImage / ; lilo'

I chose
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KERNELD=y
in config. 

What's wrong?

Thanks,
Heiko
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Re: apropos: warning: can't read the fallback whatis text database.

1996-12-06 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Fabrizio Polacco wrote:

> On debian-user-digest "Heiko R. Selber" wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > when looking for manpages with apropos I always get an error message and
> > the wildcard search fails for X related (and some other) man pages. 

> > apropos: warning: can't read the fallback whatis text database.
> > apropos: /usr/X11/man/whatis: No such file or directory
> > 
> > How do I create the fallback whatis database? Do I need it?
> 
> It should be created automatically.
> Go superuser and try  mandb -c

I did it. It said:

rudi:~# mandb -c
Processing manual pages under /usr/man...
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man8/in.smtpd.8: whatis parse for in.smtpd(8) failed
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man8/mailq.8: whatis parse for mailq(8) failed
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man8/sendmail.8: whatis parse for sendmail(8) failed
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man8/runq.8: whatis parse for runq(8) failed
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man8/rmail.8: whatis parse for rmail(8) failed
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man8/rsmtp.8: whatis parse for rsmtp(8) failed
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man8/install-fmt-base.8*: competing extensions
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/uupath.1: whatis parse for uupath(1) failed
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/dc.1: whatis parse for dc(1) failed
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/color-ls.1: whatis parse for color-ls(1) failed
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/libgpm.so.1: whatis parse for libgpm.so(1) failed
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man3/man.tmp: ignoring bogus filename
mandb: warning: /usr/man/man2/ioctl_list.2: whatis parse for ioctl_list(2) 
failed
Checking for stray cats under /usr/man...
Checking for stray cats under /var/catman...
Processing manual pages under /usr/local/man...
Checking for stray cats under /usr/local/man...
Checking for stray cats under /var/catman/local...
Processing manual pages under /usr/X11R6/man...
Checking for stray cats under /usr/X11R6/man...
Checking for stray cats under /var/catman/X11R6...
21 man subdirectories contained newer manual pages.
2911 manual pages and 0 stray cats were added.

It sounds mostly optimistic but didn't seem to help:

rudi:~# apropos man  
man (1)  - an interface to the on-line reference manuals
man (7)  - macros to format man pages
apropos: warning: can't read the fallback whatis text database.
apropos: /usr/X11/man/whatis: No such file or directory

I'm no wiser than before. What do the parse failed messages mean.

> What version of apropos are you running? 
> Try  apropos --version  or  dpkg -s man

dpkg -s man:

Package: man
Status: install ok installed
Priority: important
Section: doc
Maintainer: Alvar Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 2.3.10-11
...

Bye,

Heiko
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apropos: warning: can't read the fallback whatis text database.

1996-12-05 Thread Heiko R. Selber
Hello,

when looking for manpages with apropos I always get an error message and
the wildcard search fails for X related (and some other) man pages. 

(I use Debian 1.1.4)

Look at this:

 BEGIN pretty good example 
rudi:~$ apropos -w XDraw*
apropos: warning: can't read the fallback whatis text database.
apropos: /usr/X11/man/whatis: No such file or directory
XDraw*: nothing appropriate.

rudi:~$ apropos XDrawPoint
XDrawPoint (3x)  - draw points and points structure
apropos: warning: can't read the fallback whatis text database.
apropos: /usr/X11/man/whatis: No such file or directory
- END pretty good example -

How do I create the fallback whatis database? Do I need it?

Heiko
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Re: pine and MIME

1996-11-05 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Marco Mariani wrote:
> > It seems that PINE likes to reply to a message using the QUOTED-PRINTABLE
> > encoding whenever it sees strange characters in the message I'm replying
> > to. Can I prevent this behaviour? I'd like to send out plain ASCII files,
> > without things like =E20=E20.
> Pine doesn't seem to do this for me. You may have something configured for
> this. If you can send me your .pinerc file I will try to figure out what's
> up.

AFAIK, pine uses the QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding whenever the message 
itself contains non-ascii characters. And that is good, because it's the 
standard. You can't send 8-bit (weird) characters over (possible) 7-bit 
nodes.

If that annoys you, simply remove the weird characters before sending the
mail and it should be ok. Pine will recognize that there is nothing to
encode and leave it as it is. At least my version of pine (3.91) does it
without any effort of my part. 

Heiko
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Re: Upgrade/downgrade cycles

1996-11-03 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On 2 Nov 1996, Tony Robinson wrote:

> Can someone tell me why dselect (via NFS) does things like this:

[dselect installs the same packages over and over]

I had exactly the same problem with Debian-1.1.13.

I.E. I had the same behaviour but with with entirely different packages, 
so it's not the packages' fault.

My guess is that probably the download via NFS is to blame. (I downloaded
the distribution via NFS and then installed from a mounted HD.)

Maybe these packages were corrupted during transfer? Is there any way to
check that? I remember there was a file called
'.the_mirror_is_being_maintained' or so in the remote host's directory.
Does that mean something? 

It's certainly annoying, especially because I had to abort the
installation right in the middle of the 4th or so cycle via ^C. And now
I'm not quite sure whether I should trust the consistency of the system. 

Does dselect exit gracefully when killed with SIGINT?

Heiko
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Re: X11 problems

1996-11-03 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Vaibhav Goel wrote:

> Recently, I downloaded and installed Debian Rex.  This was about 4 days ago.  
> The installation seems to go Ok.  Whenever I try to start X using "startx"
> it seems to start ok but the mouse pointer for some reason always moves
> to the lower left hand corner of the screen and stays there whenever I try
> to move the mouse.  The device driver in the XF86Config is set to
> /dev/ttyS0.  gpm works fine so I know the mouse is working ok.
> Anyone have any suggestions as to how to fix the problem?

Sounds like you use the wrong mouse type.

Did you choose the correct setting in the "Protocol" line?

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Re: tail -f /var/adm/messages

1996-11-03 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Johann Spies wrote:

> What did I do to get the following output from  "tail -f /var/adm/messages"?
> 
> Nov  3 12:44:01 Johann last message repeated 65817 times

> At the moment the above output is all that I get.

What does the last line before all this in '/var/adm/messages' say?

Heiko
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Re: Can domain names have a dash (-)?

1996-08-22 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Gerry Jensen wrote:
> might want to change it to 'opti-med.com'.  Does anyone know if it is
> legal to have a dash (-) in a domain name?  If it is legal, could any
> problems arise from it's use (like confusing mail readers)? 

There are bazillions of them, like my old one:

'tu-berlin.de' for the Technical University of Berlin.

Never had any problem with it.

Heiko
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User-friendliness (was: Re: dselect returns error code)

1996-08-16 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Heiko R. Selber wrote:
> 
> > [ Problems with dselect ]

> > I am slowly approaching the point where I expect a
> > "general protection violation(TM)" from Debian.
> > I consider this a bad sign.

Sorry, I forgot to label this as 'funny'.

> Well, don't judge Debian by dselect. Dselect is the product of one mind
> and has, in my estimation, severe user interface problems.

I disagree. DO judge Debian by dselect. To the debian-newbie, dselect is
the first thing you see (thus, for the moment it IS Debian) and if it
doesn't do what it should, it will intimidate new users (maybe forever). 

But don't we all want to spread the REAL OS throughout the world?

I admit that an OS doesn't have to be foolproof, but there is no reason
that it shouldn't be user-friendly. Why not sit in front of your computer,
insert some disks, follow some instructions and end up with Linux running? 
(Yes, I know that Debian has come quite close to this, but IMHO not close
enough). 

> You can use dpkg at the prompt. Just cd to the directory with the package
> you wish to install and type: 
> dpkg -i packagename*.deb
> Let me know if this releaves your frustration ;-)

Yes, thanks, I feel much better now. Only that I prefer not having to work
around bugs (most of the time :o)

Heiko
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Re: dselect returns error code

1996-08-15 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
> Heiko R. Selber wrote:
> : I started dselect in order to install various packages after I had the base 
> : system running.
> : 
> : When I tried it once more I got the cryptic message:
> : 
> :   internal error at -e line 12  chunk 16
> 
> My private solution: changed to the debian top level binary
> (stable/binary) and called ``dpkg -iGROEB'', run this twice and most of
> the conflicts were resolved ...

Yes, "dpkg -iGROEB." (with a dot) worked.

I think this bug deserves a bug number.

> Heiko
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Re: telnet acces for root ?

1996-08-15 Thread Heiko R. Selber
On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, David J. Evans wrote:

> I've set up a test PC with Debian 1.1 and want to 
> administer it remotely but am refused a telnet connection 
> as root ... is there a way around this ?  Do I have to give 
> root privs. to a named user or can I enable telnet 
> connections as root ?

I think it's a good idea not to let a privileged user log in (just in case
there is a security hole somewhere). 

You can always telnet in as a normal user and use 'su' in order to get
root privileges. Like this: 

 BEGIN TELNET EXAMPLE 
beta:~$ telnet rudi
Trying 141.14.130.66...
Connected to rudi.RZ-Berlin.MPG.DE.
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Linux 1.2.13 (rudi.RZ-Berlin.MPG.DE) (ttyp4)


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dselect returns error code

1996-08-15 Thread Heiko R. Selber
Hi Net,

(thanks for the help with nfs.o)

here is the next problem:

I started dselect in order to install various packages after I had the base 
system running.

I reached the nfs server, selected gcc-2.7.2 amongst others, resolved the 
occasional conflict, and started install...

But the first package fails already:
(again quoted by heart)

  gcc-2.7.2-8 could not be installed (depends on binutils-2.6-2 which is 
  not installed)

  installation script returned error status...
  (abort|retry|ignore)

Needless to say, binutils *is* installed (at least it is selected for 
installation).

When I tried it once more I got the cryptic message:

  internal error at -e line 12  chunk 16


advthanksance

Heiko

PS:
I am slowly approaching the point where I expect a
"general protection violation(TM)" from Debian.
I consider this a bad sign.
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Heiko Selber (Fritz-Haber-Institut Berlin)   | Vs lbh pna ernq guvf   |
http://www.fhi-berlin.mpg.de/~selber | lbh unir jnfgrq lbhe gvzr. |
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Urvxb Fryore   |
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NFS module insertion failed

1996-08-14 Thread Heiko R. Selber
Hi there,

I have just tried to install Debian-1.1.5 which I got via ftp from
ftp.inka.de. 

I used the disk set 1996-07-14 to make the base installation. 

The problem is that I can't insert the nfs module into the kernel. Which
of course is the end of the story so far because I want to install via
nfs. 

When running insmod, I get the following error message (more or less, I
quote by heart, since the machine I'm writing this on is literally
remote): 

  installation of nfs module failed.
  symbols from Linux-2.0.6 don't match the definition from Linux-2.0.6

  nfs_mknod: can't resolve ...
  nfs_

For me this looks like an inconsistency in the disk set.

What do you think?

Heiko
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Heiko Selber (Fritz-Haber-Institut Berlin)   | Vs lbh pna ernq guvf   |
http://www.fhi-berlin.mpg.de/~selber | lbh unir jnfgrq lbhe gvzr. |
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Urvxb Fryore   |
Phone:+49-30-8413-4574, Fax:+49-30-8413-4686 ||