invisible console
I like an old-fashioned VGA text look on the console; in /etc/default/console-setup I have FONTFACE=VGA FONTSIZE=16 This used to work. But after a dist-upgrade around April 10th, the behaviour changed. 1 -- cold startup works normally (and looks normal). 2 -- startx works OK 3 -- pressing control-alt-f2 (to go to the console temporarily) now gives a (framebuffer?) screen with very small letters; at the top of the screen there is a message from drm stating that the resolution is set to 1250 x 1024 (instead of 640 x 480 which is what I want). 4 -- presing alt-f7 gets me back into X. 5 -- pressing control-alt-f2 AGAIN gives a completely black screen. Nothing visible. Going back to X with alt-f7 is still possible. uname -a gives: Linux vega 2.6.32-3-686 #1 SMP Thu Feb 25 06:14:20 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux This kernel was installed recently; booting an earlier kernel, e.g. 2.6.29-2, gets the old (proper) behaviour back. Configuration error? Or bug? If the latter, which package? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bdab531.4060...@my.home
invisible console (solved)
Sorry. Missed a previous thread. Cured it by setting options radeon modeset=0 in /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf This works (original value was 1). Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bdac862.5070...@my.home
Re: Re: Vuze (Azureus) broken after Apt-get upgrade
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Probably related to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560056 there's a supposed work-around in Message-Id: 200912151551.20419.tim.rueh...@gmx.de, which should be in the archives. I did not test the work-around because I do not use any Java applications regularly. Thanks very much! I had the same problem and (because I had been messing with my shorewall settings recently) thought it was my fault. Your message prevented me from pulling my hair out. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
xsession errors
On my machine the file ~/.xsession-errors grows and grows without limits. I have to remove it regularly before it takes over my whole disk; this has been the case for years. Last time I removed it was September 21; now it is again already 135M in size! It grows by the minute. It is mainly full of GDK-Warnings. Did anyone else have this problem, either now or in the past? If in the past, what did you do to solve it? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
install problem
This is really an embarrassing question for an old Debian hand to ask, but how do I install Debian? I just bought a netbook which has no CDROM drive, but which can boot from a USB stick. I could dd an Ubuntu image to the stick and then boot from it. But I prefer just plain old Debian. I found (through the Debian home page) an image called debian-503-i386-netinst.iso. I dd'd it to the stick. But the netbook does not boot from it. There must be something very elementary which I did wrong. But what? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Silverlight/Moonlight/Tuva
David Fox wrote: I didn't get it to work. I reloaded firefox, brought up the site again, same thing. It thinks the silverlight / moonlight isn't loaded, although the clicktrhough site says it is. about: plugins in firefox says it is too. The abc.com videos play normally; no mention is made that silverlight is a requirement. Through Novell's bugzilla page I found another page which, just like Microsoft's Tuva page, does not work: http://matosdotnet.com/ It complains about silverlight/moonlight not being installed, while in fact it is. But apparently, what is missing is silverlight version 2, while Debian only has version 1. What is especially galling about this situation is that the Richard Feynman lectures on The Character of Physical Law are now only available on Tuva. They've disappeared from Youtube. Such things could make a person paranoid. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Silverlight/Moonlight/Tuva
Has anyone succeeded in using the moonlight packages in order to view the videos at Microsoft's Tuva project? If so, which packages are needed exactly / which tricks? http://research.microsoft.com/apps/tools/tuva/ Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: iceweasel puzzle (SOLVED)
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: export AWT_TOOLKIT=MToolkit in .xinitrc. The reference to libawt.so makes me think this may be a similar problem. Well -- this did not work. I finally decided on a new, especially thorough, purging of anything having to do with java, web-browsers, macromedia, and flash. Lots of times doing updatedb and locate; removing many dot-files and dot-directories in /etc and in my home directory. Then installed (after saving bookmarks passwords) - iceweasel - vuze (which pulls in lots of openjdk-6 stuff) - icedtea6-plugin (browser plugin for openjdk-6) - flashplugin-nonfree All sun-java stuff had been purged (AFAIK). And now it works. I mean both applets and the strictlysudoku.com login page work.The unsatisfactory thing is, I still don't know which of the countless files I removed was the real culprit. But it works now. Thanks all who thought about this. Regards, Jan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: iceweasel puzzle
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: With iceweasel 3.0.6-1 works as expected. You don't have Noscript enabled do you? Java and Javascript are enabled and both work. I tried moving the .mozilla directory out of the way; didn't help. Thought it might have something to do with the flash plugin (because locate strictlysudoku turned up some entries in ~/.macromedia), reinstalled and removed flash in various ways-- nothing helps. The login popup window is blank, not only in iceweasel on my computer, but also in Opera! So it is not an iceweasel puzzle only. The login popup window is loaded somehow; I can read the source code. I can save it as a file, and open the file with iceweasel or opera: it is blank. Opera has two complaints (may or may not be related): ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. This might be significant, although I have not a clue what it means. There are several files called libjvm.so and libawt.so on my system (installed by openoffice, sun jre, and openjdk6; client and server versions). But this sudoku site does not use java, only javascript. As long as you just want to play sudoku (with logging in) you don't even need javascript. In lynx, the saved login form is displayed (but of course in lynx, I cannot play sudoku, because this a graphical thing). N.B. ~/.xsession-errors keeps getting filled up with (to me) incomprehensible warnings and errors, like: (firefox-bin:5229): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance of invalid non-instantiatable type `(null)' (firefox-bin:5229): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_handler_disconnect: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed (firefox-bin:5229): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd-glib2.0_2.20.3-1-i386-o59wJY/glib2.0-2.20.3/gobject/gsignal.c:2387: instance `0x90ecda8' has no handler with id `4276' (firefox-bin:5229): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd-glib2.0_2.20.3-1-i386-o59wJY/glib2.0-2.20.3/gobject/gsignal.c:2387: instance `0x97d1908' has no handler with id `4536' (firefox-bin:5229): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid uninstantiatable type `(null)' in cast to `GtkObject' (firefox-bin:5229): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance of invalid non-instantiatable type `(null)' So, if someone has any bright idea.. in the meantime I keep digging. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
iceweasel puzzle
I use iceweasel to visit the site http://www.strictlysudoku.com. In the left-hand column there are ĺogin' and 'register' links. If I click one of those, a window pops up, but it is completely blank. On my wife's computer, which uses the same gateway/firewall, and which is also more or less Debian (well, ubuntu), clicking the links produces proper 'login' and 'register' forms. Any idea of what could be the matter on my computer? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unicode recommendations in a terminal - Please advise.
Chris Jones wrote: How should I set up my terminal - xterm - and what might be a good unicode fixed font that could make the experience more true to life? The Debian package xfonts-efont-unicode has very wide character coverage (incl. Chinese/Japanese). For tips on how to set it up, google my page Configuring xterm for UTF-8. Another thing is that I would like to be able to display all the glyphs of a given font so I can tell at a glance what scripts are covered. I use xfd: xfd -fn '-efont-biwidth-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-*' xfd from the x11-utils package is fine, but it does not appear to support Truetype fonts. The efonts aren't Truetype. You get the oldfashioned xterm look feel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: java applets
Frank Lin PIAT wrote: Can you list the plugins in iceweasel, typically, with the _one_line_ command: find /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/ -name *.so \ | xargs -n 1 readlink -m | xargs dpkg -S This gives: sun-java5-bin: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.18/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so realplayer: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so mozilla-acroread: /usr/lib/Adobe/Reader9/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so about:plugins in iceweasel, on the other hand, says I have plugins for Shockwave Flash Adobe Reader 9.1 Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible So neither Icedtea (for openjdk-6) nor the Sun plugin are available; and so, of course, applets do not work. It has been like this for ages now; am getting a bit desperate. Whatever I do, I cannot get a working Java plugin back. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: java applets
Frank Lin PIAT wrote: On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 14:18 +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: If everything else fails: - Purge all JRE See: aptitude search ?and(~Pjava-runtime,~i) - Purge iceweasel - Reinstall iceweasel - Reinstall sun-java6-plugin - Create a new user account - Test the JRE on http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml All else had already failed .. but this worked. I lost some prefs and my bookmarks, but could restore them from backup. Thanks very much! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
OSS4
I just read this: http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html AFAICU the article recommends throwing out, among other things, ALSA and pulseaudio, which it has harsh words for, and using OSS version 4 instead. Switching everything to OSS4 with its (alleged) built-in sound mixing seems very attractive. Does Debian support OSS Version 4 now? Is there a decent Debian sound tutorial somewhere? Using Sid. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
java
I just want to install a Java runtime environment which will allow me to see Java applets in action. It seems I have the choice of (at least) default-jre gcj-4.4-jre gcj-jre icedtea-6-jre-cacao openoffice.org (includes its own jre, apparently) openjdk-6-jre (required by Azureus/Vuze; it does not seem to accept other Javas) sun-java5-jre sun-java6-jre Today I did another attempt: rigorously dpkg --purge'd any trace of any other jre than openjdk-6-jre. It does not have a mozilla plugin, but suggests installing icedtea6-plugin and sun-java6-fonts. But then sun-java6-fonts wants to install sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre, and suggests sun-java6-plugin and ia32-sun-java6-plugin. And the icedtea6-plugin does not work... This is dependency hell. Does anybody know of a decent tutorial for setting up jre, any jre, on Debian? With only one boundary condition: it should work. I haven't been able to see applets working for about half a year now. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: java applets
Frank Lin PIAT wrote: Humm, installing sun-java6-plugin (or sun-java5-plugin or icedtea-gcjwebplugin) should pull all the required dependencies. Yess.. but that means I'll have at least two jre's: sun-java6 and the one required by Azureus/Vuze. How can I be sure that they won't bite each other? Now, with only the openjdk-6-jre installed, I don't see any applets working, but at least Iceweasel does not crash/become unresponsive, as it did invariably on applet-containing pages twhen there were 2 or more jre's. Does anybody know of a decent tutorial for setting up jre, any jre, on Debian? Hopefully, aptitude install sun-java6-plugin should be enough. But I need the openjdk-6-jre as well because of Azureus/Vuze. doesn't work is a bit short. In this case it means: after restarting the browser, the plugin does not show in about:plugins. And applets do not work; I get an invitation to click something to download the plugin, but then it says that there is no appropriate plugin available. I know that, running Sid, I cannot expect the Moon. But I've had this problem for 6 months or so now. And I haven't a clue which package I should file a bug against. This is typically one of those inter-package bugs for which the BTS does not seem to be very suitable. Perhaps we need a java task force (as well as a sound task force). Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: java
If you're running 32-bit, you'll probably just want the sun-java6-plugin. I am running 32-bit. But if I kill openjdk-6-jre, I'd lose Azureus/Vuze, which I use to download Korean soap operas. My wife, who is addicted to the things, would kill me if I did. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace disabled?
emikaadeo wrote: I just enabled keyboard layout in KSystemsettingsRegionalLanguageKeyboard Layout, and there, in advanced tab I check: Key sequence to kill X server (Control+Alt+Backspace). I filed a bug against xserver-xorg about the disappearance of control-alt-backspace, and the maintainer (Julien Cristau) wrote back saying DontZap will be changed back to off by default soon. He also gave the tip to re-enable control-alt-backspace by including in the XKBOPTIONS line in /etc/default/console-setup: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp After which (to be on the safe side) you have to reboot. I suppose this will be necessary (for those without KDE/Gnome) until DontZap = off becomes the default again. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace disabled?
Andrei Popescu wrote: (about getting ctl-alt-backspace back): You need OptionDontZap false in the ServerFlags section of your xorg.conf (check the manpage for xorg.conf, I'm writing from memory). This worked for about a week -- but nannyism has crept further. In the latest Sid, even this trick doesn't work anymore. How to get it back, I wonder. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace disabled?
widux wrote: Hi, for me right-Alt + Print + k does the trick! Greetings How on earth did you find this out? Also, do you know where this is set, so I could change it? Or is it hard-coded somehow? Anyway, thanks for the information. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
replacing hard disk
My wife's computer which runs ubuntu heron made a funny sound today. I now think it must have come from the hard disk, which is quite old; the motherboard and cpu are fairly new, however. And just now the computer became unusable because it could no longer save any files. /var/log/syslog told about a disk error which resulted in the disk being remounted read-only. Restarting the computer caused an fsck, and now the machine works again, but it is clear that the disk is nearing the end of its life. So tomorrow it's off to the computer shop to get a new hard disk. Are there any tips on moving the whole system from the old disk to the new one? Or do I just have to re-install ubuntu, re-install any updates and extra programs which are installed, find and copy modified config files, mails, bookmarks, etc? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace disabled?
IMHO disabling an old and trusted functionality is simply introducing a bug, made worse by keeping silent about it (no word about it in changelog.gz or NEWS.Debian.gz). It must surely be a tiny minority of users who press control-alt-backspace by mistake; I find it hard to imagine even. But for users who suffer from this syndrome there has always been the possibility of specifying DontZap. Forcing it on all users is a Bad Thing. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: What hardware to use for Debian Firewall/Gateway or server?
Csanyi Pal wrote: Yes, with Debian Etch, but not with Debian Lenny! So: can one install on it say a Debian GNU/Linux Lenny? I suppose you can, although I didn't try it. I think you can install anything you want; I heavily customised mine (in fact I am no longer using any of the Bubba-specific software provided by Excito). Apt-get works; upgrading to Lenny is just a matter of pointing your sources.list towards it, I think. The kernel is 2.6.26.5, so it should not be a problem (don't quote me on that, though; I also do not quite understand why you should want to use Lenny, rather than Etch, on a server. First prepare a rescue stick before starting any experiments!). Mind that it is a headless device. Everything has to be done through ssh (or local telnet). It has no cd-rom drive, keyboard, or monitor. But it is just a Debian system (for powerpc, not for i386). Everything behaves just like your desktop Debian system. Don't expect gigantic calculating power from this machine. It is good for shifting bits around (what a home server/gateway should do) but not for anything calculation-intensive. I mean, the low power consumption and silent operation had to come from somewhere. Absolutely fine though, as a server/firewall/gateway. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: What hardware to use for Debian Firewall/Gateway or server?
Csanyi Pal wrote: What is the recommended new hardware for firewall/gateway or for a web, mail, file printer server at a small home network? Any advices will be appreciated! I am now using a Bubba 2, made by a Swedish company: http://excito.com/bubba/products/about-bubba.html It runs Debian. More expensive, of course, than using an old desktop or laptop computer (but the price is going down all the time, now 212 euros for a unit with 500 GB hard disk), but it uses almost no electricity, and it is silent (fanless). Very suitable for 24/7 operation. I am very happy with it. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Alt-F7 fails
Steve Kemp wrote: You can dump a skeleton xorg.conf file by running, as root: dexconf Yes, this gives an absolutely bare-bones xorg.conf with one section in it: Section Device Identifier Configured Video Device EndSection It works; and in fact, even without any xorg.conf, it works also. I understand now that the goal of the recent changes was to get rid of xorg.conf, because X should get the information it needs from elsewhere, and automatically. So far so good, but.. with this skeleton xorg.conf, control-alt-backspace for getting out of X no longer works. What I did was to insert, as the first section in xorg.conf, a ServerFlags section: Section ServerFlags Option DontZapoff EndSection By this means I got control-alt-backspace back. Or is there also a non-xorg.conf way of getting the same thing? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Alt-F7 fails
OK, I made a small write-up now (aimed at users like myself) about the ‘New Input System’ in Debian. Comments welcome -- http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu.html#T6.3 Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Alt-F7 fails
Andrei Popescu wrote: You could add http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide to the 'Links' section. Did that. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Alt-F7 fails
Florian Kulzer wrote: X crashing when switching back from the console is most commonly caused by a problem with the video driver. There should be some related error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or in /var/log/syslog. (Switching back and forth between X and console works fine for me; up-to-date Sid/amd64, intel driver.) There was a backtrace in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: Backtrace: 0: /usr/bin/X11/X(xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x813265b] 1: /usr/bin/X11/X(xf86SigHandler+0x51) [0x80c5c71] 2: [0xb7fd3400] 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so [0xb7956417] 4: /usr/bin/X11/X(xf86CrtcSetModeTransform+0x4b4) [0x80eee14] 5: /usr/bin/X11/X(xf86SetDesiredModes+0x124) [0x80ef1e4] 6: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so [0xb793527d] 7: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libxaa.so [0xb7706f08] 8: /usr/bin/X11/X [0x80dd9e1] 9: /usr/bin/X11/X [0x80ccdf4] 10: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so [0xb79f0864] 11: /usr/bin/X11/X(xf86Wakeup+0x3c3) [0x80c6393] 12: /usr/bin/X11/X(WakeupHandler+0x52) [0x8090512] 13: /usr/bin/X11/X(WaitForSomething+0x1bb) [0x812ffeb] 14: /usr/bin/X11/X(Dispatch+0x7e) [0x808c61e] 15: /usr/bin/X11/X(main+0x3bd) [0x8071a5d] 16: /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe5) [0xb7c72775] 17: /usr/bin/X11/X [0x8070f11] Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting It seems quite a lot happened to Debian Sid recently without me being aware of it. I did 2 experiments: 1-Deleted (well, renamed of course) /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Made sure that the keyboard description in /etc/defaults/console-setup was OK. Result: X works, OK it seems, without xorg.conf, and Alt-F7 works also! 2-Feeling a little bit guilty about running X without xorg.conf, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. I expected to get the well- know litany of questions. No such thing. Instead I got: dpkg: warning: obsolete option '--print-installation-architecture', please use '--print-architecture' instead. (repeated 3 times) Now what does this mean? Where is this obsolete option set? Should users now just simply ditch /etc/X11/xorg.conf? On the other hand it says in the Input Hotplug Guide: First and foremost is that the xorg.conf is still absolutely necessary to set one's keymap when you're not using the default 'us' map. But it seems to work OK even with non-standard keyboard setup, provided it is set in console-setup. Confused, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: keyboard mapping problem under X
Andrei Popescu wrote: changing /etc/default/console-setup should be enough, xorg.conf is ignored. Aah.. That explains it. Restart hal, at least in theory. Yes, in theory. In practice it may be different. I restarted it by means of /etc/init.d/hal restart, and got some weird results. It is also possible to make X ignore evdev altogether by setting in the ServerFlags section of xorg.conf: Option AutoAddDevices off Then you get the old behaviour back. xorg.conf again determines what is going on. Of course without the benefits of evdev. But I do not know what these benefits are anyway, so I do not miss them! Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Alt-F7 fails
This may be a FAQ; if so, apologies. On my Sid, I can go to the console from X by means of, e.g., Control-Alt-F2. This has been the behaviour of X for ages. Also for ages, you could go back to X by pressing Alt-F7. However, in Sid nowadays, this does not work. Pressing Alt-F7 simply kills X, and all programs running in it. You stay in the console, and have to restart X by means of startx. A bug, obviously. But in which package? Has it been reported to the Debian BTS? I couldn't find it. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: keyboard mapping problem under X
Bruno Boettcher wrote: kbd is still on nodeadkeys... It appears that the keyboard system in X has changed. There is now something new and mysterious called evdev. To see if you have a system with evdev, type setxkbmap -print and see if evdev is mentioned. If it is, it seems that at the moment, to change the behaviour of the keyboard, you must specify things not only in etc/X11/xorg.conf, but *also* in /etc/default/console-setup. And then you must reboot! Stopping and restarting X is NOT enough. (There must be a better way though; I am going to investigate this, because obviously my international keyboards and fonts page needs serious updating.) Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mplayer slowness and kernel
Florian Kulzer wrote: It seems that your xorg video driver has problems to use hardware video acceleration with the newer kernel. (A problem with DMA for hard drive or DVD access is also possible, but less likely, IMHO.) What do you get from: lspci -nn | grep -Ei 'vga|display|video|media' 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24d5] (rev 02) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] [1002:5964] (rev 01) 01:00.1 Display controller [0380]: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (Secondary) [1002:5d44] (rev 01) grep -Ei '^\((ee|ww)\)|xv|/drivers/' /var/log/Xorg.0.log With 2.6.26 kernel: (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc. (WW) The directory /usr/local/share/dosemu/Xfonts does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. (WW) Disabling Generic Keyboard (WW) Disabling Configured Mouse (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (WW) Warning, couldn't open module freetype (EE) Failed to load module freetype (module does not exist, 0) (WW) Warning, couldn't open module type1 (EE) Failed to load module type1 (module does not exist, 0) (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ati_drv.so (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so (II) RADEON(0): Will try to use DMA for Xv image transfers (WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ... (WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xf7fff000 is: 0xf7fff000 (WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0xffc0 is: 0xfc7ffc00 (WW) RADEON(0): Option XaaNoOffscreenPixmap is not used With 2.6.29 kernel: (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc. (WW) The directory /usr/local/share/dosemu/Xfonts does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' wi ll be disabled. (WW) Disabling Generic Keyboard (WW) Disabling Configured Mouse (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (WW) Warning, couldn't open module freetype (EE) Failed to load module freetype (module does not exist, 0) (WW) Warning, couldn't open module type1 (EE) Failed to load module type1 (module does not exist, 0) (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ati_drv.so (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so (II) RADEON(0): Will try to use DMA for Xv image transfers (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled (WW) RADEON(0): Option XaaNoOffscreenPixmap is not used Thanks for looking into this. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: keyboard mapping problem under X
Bruno Boettcher wrote: Hello [..] i use, whilst living in France, a german keyboard... You take the trouble to mention this: any special reason? For instance, do you want to type mostly French on a German keyboard? still, dead-keys aren't working so, what possibilities remain to activate them? without redefining a whole new keymapping, especially since the system seems to have changed? KDE or Gnome have GUI utilities that will make the keyboard do what you want (i.e. without directly editing system files). Probably in something called System, Keyboard. If (like me) you want to avoid using KDE/Gnome, you can *also* make the keyboard do what you want. The German keyboard is called de. It has several so-called variants: -basic (this is the default, which has several dead keys) -nodeadkeys (no keys are dead) -deadgraveacute (only grave and acute are dead) -deadacute (only acute is dead) -ro (includes special characters for Romanian. I don't know why this is included in a German keyboard description; maybe German keyboards are commonly used in Romania) -ro_nodeadkeys -... etc, etc, ... See the file /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/de. The variants are described in sections beginning with xkb_symbols. You can select whatever variant you want by typing in a terminal (e.g. xterm) window: setxkbmap de [-variant name of variant] E.g. setxkbmap de -variant deadgraveacute If you just want to use the basic variant, you just type setxkbmap de You can use the setxkbmap command to experiment with keyboard layouts and variants. Once you have selected what you want, you can put it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the keyboard section, in a slightly different format, using one line for the keyboard and another for the variant, e.g.: Option XkbLayout de Option XkbVariant deadgraveacute This will make your selection (semi-)permanent. There are many more possibilities for handling the keyboard in X (not so many on the console). For instance, you can switch between entirely different keyboard layouts by defining a special key. For details, see below, sections 6.1 and 6.2. Regards, Jan http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
mplayer slowness and kernel
With the 2.6.29 kernel (from the linux-image-2.6.29-2-686 package), playing a movie with mplayer uses up to 95% cpu. mplayer becomes very slow and jerky, with stuttering sound, and Your system is TOO SLOW warnings. No twiddling of mplayer's parameters helps. When I go back to the slightly older 2.6.26 kernel (linux-image-2.6.26-2-686), mplayer works properly again (about 20% cpu usage and no warnings or stuttering, even at full screen size. Is this a known problem? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny. Locales and Interface Language
Mark Goldshtein wrote: 1. Is a default system locale independent from an interface language? I mean, is it possible to change a default system locale to whatever I like and there will be no harm to English interface I have? [..] It depends on what you mean by changing the locale. AFAIK the locale *mainly* determines the user interface. Messages and prompts from programs, date and currency formats, paper size (eg Letter for US locales), number format (e.g. thousands separator is comma in some locales, period in others), etc. Note that messages and prompts from programs for various locales have to be provided by the programs themselves. If they are not, messages, etc., will be provided in some default language (invariably English). Also, it is up to the programs to pay attention to the locale; if they do not, they will generate e.g. numbers and dates according to the US convention. So if you want to keep an English user interface, you have to keep an English locale; but if you also want to read, input, and print things in other languages than English, you should make sure that your locale is a UTF-8 one, so you can handle all kinds of languages and scripts. Examples: en_US.utf8, en_GB.utf8. Regards, Jan http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bad sound
Andrei Popescu wrote: I may be a bit behind the times in using xmms. Is there a replacement (with approximately the same user interface) for xmms? audacious Audacious works very well. Thanks, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bad sound
Kent West wrote: Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: The last few days, sound (in particular music) is very bad on my Sid system. It sounds distorted, as if above a certain amplitude the signal is clipped. I had this problem for about the last year; last week I discovered one of the 3D channels was too high. How did you discover this? I mean by which program: alsamixer, alsactl, or something else? In the meantime I found that the problem only occurs when xmms is used for playing music. xmms used to work very well until a few days ago, but now it sounds horrible. Using mplayer instead makes the same music files sound perfect again. I may be a bit behind the times in using xmms. Is there a replacement (with approximately the same user interface) for xmms? Does anyone know why xmms suddenly started to behave so badly? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bad sound
The last few days, sound (in particular music) is very bad on my Sid system. It sounds distorted, as if above a certain amplitude the signal is clipped. Could this possibly be caused by software, i.e. a Sid upgrade? Did anyone else notice this? 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Brother HL2040 printer/lpr stopped working after update
beatrice wrote: I have a Brother HL2040 printer that worked perfectly well on my Debian testing with the .deb driver package Brother provides. I don't have CUPS installed, I use lpr. My printer stopped working without me changing any system configuration other than my usual package updating via aptitude. [..] The communication PC- printer should be working. When a job is sent to the printer the printer wakes up, makes all the hot air noise it usually does, plus the led light blink as it always did while it is receiving data. The length of the blinking still varies with the amount of data sent. I am afraid I can't help you now, but I have almost the same problem. The only difference is that my printer is a Brother HL2030 instead of a 2040. The rest is exactly as you describe. lpr, and the problem started yesterday after an upgrade. I'll let you and list know when I find a solution. I think it happened before (maybe a year ago) but I can't remember what I did to fix it. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Brother HL2040 printer/lpr stopped working after update
The problem is, as you suspected, caused by ghostscript. I downgraded to version 8.63 and it started to work again. You have to downgrade 3 packages: libgs8, ghostscript, and ghostscript-x. With any luck, the 8.63 versions of these packages are still in your /var/cache/apt/archives, and you can install them with dpkg -i. Otherwise you must go to packages.debian.org and get the 8.62 versions from stable; it seems that 8.63 is no longer available. Version 8.64 gives an irrecoverable error. I haven't found out yet how Brother's way of using ghostscript triggers this error. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Brother HL2040 printer/lpr stopped working after update
beatrice wrote: I think I'll write a couple lines to Brother's customer service anyway, now that I know I am not the only one with this problem. I don't know if the error is with Brother or with ghostscript. In the meantime I filed a bug against ghostscript: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522417 Actually I *think* that the error is with ghostscript. The Brother scripts look OK to me. I hope that 8.62 works for you; didn't try it myself. And indeed, it happened before, so I stopped upgrading ghostscript for a while, I remember now. I am not sure which previous version did not work. Hope it was not 8.62.. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Grr! Sound problems again
About a year and a half ago, after a lot of experimentation, I finally got sound working OK on my Debian Sid system. The solution turned out to be quite simple. To save others the same trouble, I put up a kind of sound instruction on my website (http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/dmix.html). But something must have changed in Sid recently, because sound has become unreliable again. After I visit a sound-using site like youtube (let's call this online sound), sound will no longer be heard when playing a stored avi file with gmplayer, for instance (offline sound). To play offline sounds I have to kill iceweasel first (or call /etc/init.d/alsasound restart, which kills iceweasel as a side effect..). Well, I know this is Sid, which has this tendency of breaking things which work by fixing them. But normally these things get re-fixed after a few days. This new sound problem has now been going on for a few weeks. I cannot file a bug report about it because I have no way to know which program causes the problem. Any help appreciated. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Strange news problem
Icedove, which I use for mail and news, does not download headers from subscribed newsgroups anymore. On the 29th of November it still worked fine; I received some message headers (only a handful) dated November 30; nothing since then. The news server belongs to my ISP, but they say nothing has changed and they got no other complaints about this. In fact when I try another newsreader (pan), new message headers continue to be retrieved normally. So it really seems to be an Icedove problem. Even deleting the news account and setting it up afresh does not produce any messages after November 30. I update/upgrade Sid regularly, but Icedove has not been upgraded since October. Any suggestions? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange news problem
Eduardo M Kalinowski wrote: Try with another profile (icedove -ProfileManager should let you create another, or move the .mozilla/thunderbird/ directory out of the way temporarily) to see if the problem still persists with a clean profile. I tried both suggestions, but I still cannot see any news after Nov. 30. Most mysterious. (Hope this message make it to the list; I am not subscribed. Normally I send messages to the list with a method involving both the html archives and the linux.debian.user newsgroup, but the latter does not work now :-( May try a purge and reinstall of icedove and iceweasel. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange news problem
Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: There are reports complaining about this in the nl.internet.providers newsgroup, w.r.t. news servers of your provider. nova.planet.nl still seems to work well. Thanks very much! KPN's help desk is apparently not aware of this problem. I thought the nova server was only for binaries, but apparently it carries normal newsgroups as well. Other list members: sorry to have bothered you with a problem that has nothing to do with Debian. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: java plugin (SOLVED)
I finally solved my java plugin problems (as well as, it seems, several instability problems I was having with iceweasel) by: 1. apt-get removing and dpkg --purging any java-related packages found by dpkg -l|grep -i java. 2. apt-get installing azureus (which pulls in openjdk-6*) and icedtea-gcjwebplugin. Got the hint from this message on the debian-amd64 list (found by searching; don't have an amd64 myself): http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2008/11/msg00032.html Maybe Debian is getting more sun-unfriendly. Anyway, it works now. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
java plugin
I have sun-java6-plugin installed (and thus also sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-bin) but the java plugin does not appear in iceweasel's about:plugins (and so java applets no longer work). Running Sid; this problem seems to be fairly new. Any other Sid users experience this? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: java plugin
Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:29:39 +0100 Have you done as instructed at plugindoc.mozdev.org? Namely; 1. Install Java Runtime Environment. 2. Make a symbolic link to libjavaplugin_oji.so in your Mozilla Plugins directory. Use the copy located in the plugin/i386/ns7 directory of JRE 5.0 or later, or plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 if you are using JRE 1.4.2. The file you link to is in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07/jre/plugin/i386/ns7 on my system. Thanks! I *think* that has already been done by apt-get. The only difference seems to be that you have java-6-sun-1.6.0.07 while I have java-6-sun-1.6.0.10. I have the following symbolic links: -/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins has libjavaplugin.so - /etc/alternatives/iceweasel-javaplugin.so -/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins has libjavaplugin.so - /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so -/etc/alternatives has iceweasel-javaplugin.so - /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/ i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so mozilla-javaplugin.so - /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/ i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so - /usr/lib/jvm has java-6-sun - java-6-sun-1.6.0.10 and finally, /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.10/jre/plugin/i386/ns7 has the file libjavaplugin_oji.so, perms -rwxr-xr-x, owned by root, size 137021 bytes. That seems OK to me. For good measure, I downgraded from the Sid to the Lenny version -- i.e. from 1.6.0.10 to 1.6.0/07. But this didn't help .. it is mysterious. One thing: when re-installing (i.e. downgrading) sun-java there was a warning: update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-6, but binary format already installed by sun-java6 I don't know what this means. I have openjdk installed because it was pulled in by the azureus package. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nfs problem
Kurian Thayil wrote: Hi, If I can remember correctly. Include the option no_root_squash in /etc/exports of B. It will be like, /home/storage/video A(rw,sync,subtree_check,no_root_squash) You will be able to read-write as root if you include this option. This did not really work. To my amazement, the following drastic simplification worked: on B: /etc exports reads /home/storage/video A(async) C(async) A user on the home net (desktop machine A or C) can mount, read, and write the shared directory now. nfs remains mysterious. But I am slowly gaining experience, now my home has become 100% Debian (two desktops and a gateway/server/firewall). Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nfs problem
Machines A and B both run Debian. There are no firewall rules blocking any kind of traffic A--B. I try to mount, by means of nfs, a directory of B to a mount point on A, read-write. /etc/exports in B has: /home/storage/video A(rw,sync,subtree_check) /etc/fstab in A has: B:/home/storage/video /mountB nfs \ user,rw,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,noauto 0 0 If I call (on A) mount /mountB I can read the contents of /home/storage/video on B. But I cannot write anything to it. I keep getting the message read-only filesystem. I hope there are some nfs experts here who can shed some light. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: japanese input?
Dexter Filmore wrote: etch or lenny, doesn't matter, any will do. Need japanese input on both gtk2 and qt apps. Possibly mouse input, i.e. draw signs - the get instant-ocr'ed. What are my options here? If you have a utf-8 system (i.e. the output of the locale command shows UTF-8 suffixes) you could use, e.g., uim or scim. Instructions here: http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu.html#T6.4 I use uim myself. The uim menu offers a handwriting input pad, but it doesn't seem to be implemented in Debian. So you just have to use the Japanese word processor method: type toukyou, press space, get 東京. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cedilla on a us_intl keyboard
Strange. I thought the us_intl keyboard had been removed from Debian years ago. Nowadays you use the us keyboard with the alt-intl /keyboard variant/. It seems that many Debian users (including members of this list) are not aware of the glorious Unix Compose Key. You press Compose, and then some other characters, and magically a character is produced which is a kind of graphical combination of those characters. So a c-cedilla (ç) is made by Compose, comma, c. A German double s (ß) by means of Compose, s, s. A British pound (currency) sign (₤) by Compose, L, =. Etcetera, etcetera; hundreds of such combinations are pre-defined, and you can also define your own. Now where is the Compose key? I /think/ the Debian default is: the right windows key is Compose (but I am not sure; it's been ages since I set up a Debian system from scratch). In any case the position of the Compose key can be specified through the GUI on Gnome/Ubuntu and KDE. If you have no Compose key defined, you can also set it by specifying in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, in the keyboard section: Option XkbOptions compose:rwin See also http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu.html#T6.1 Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cedilla on a us_intl keyboard
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
It seems that many Debian users (including members of this
list) are not aware of the glorious Unix Compose Key. You
press Compose, and then some other characters, and magically
a character is produced which is a kind of graphical
combination of those characters. So a c-cedilla (ç) is made
by Compose, comma, c. A German double s (ß) by means of
Compose, s, s. A British pound (currency) sign (₤) by
Compose, L, =.
Good point Jan Willem, Florian has pointed this out before:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/04/msg01873.html
Hugo
It seems I missed that thread. But anyway it is true that the
Compose key (a Unix/Linux feature, Windows doesn't have it) is a
very useful tool.
However, that thread did not quite answer the question posed by
its OP (Manon Metten). With the Compose key, you need 3 keystrokes
to make, e.g., á (Compose, ', a). If you use a true dead keys
method, you need only 2 keystrokes (', a). The downside then is
that to produce ' by itself, you need to follow the ' keypress by
a space, or press Alt-'. The choice between the dead keys method
and the Compose method is a matter of taste, depending on the
language(s) that you normally work with. For US users who only
need accented characters very rarely, the Compose method is
probably the best.
To enable true dead keys on an ordinary US keyboard you can set
a dead key variant in /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Option XkbVariant alt-intl
(Dead keys, which already existed in European mechanical
typewriters, were called dead because they did not advance the
paper-carrying carriage. So a following character overprinted them.)
The xkb subsystem on modern versions of Linux has many more
wonderful features, especially if you convert your system to utf-8
(which is easy, and already the default on fresh installations of
Debian, I believe).
Regards, Jan
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Re: re: how to close port 113
Jude DaShiell wrote: Install and run arno-iptables-firewall and tell it your internet port like eth0 or ppp0 and leave the rest of the defaults alone. Port 113 will be closed once this is done since one of the defaults with arno-iptables-firewall is to first deny all ports then only open up those you specifically choose to open. In general my advice would be to make your system secure /without/ a firewall. I.e. do not run services that you do not need, and make the ones you /do/ need only accessible from the LAN, not from the outside world. Then, you can run a firewall as a double security. It is dangerous to rely on firewalls only for security because it so easy to make mistakes with them. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switch-off problem
Daniel Burrows wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:46:16AM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Now my theory is that the switch-off problem occurs after the following events: 1 - I mount the remote usb drive. 2 - my wife switches off her computer. 3 - I try to umount the remote usb drive -- this cannot be done. I suppose the shutdown program also tries to umount nfs mounts, but fails, and then instead of skipping this step, just hangs. Does this make sense? If so, is there a way to solve this problem? You could try switching to a soft mount. This can cause silent data loss when a server goes down, but I don't think that should be an issue if this is a read-only mount. Just add soft to the mount options. (I haven't tried soft-mounting for this particular case, so I don't know for sure that it will help) Thanks much for pointing me to the soft option (which I did not know about). Then by Googling I also found the intr option which is said to be an alternative. But unfortunately neither option cures the problem of shutdown hanging on the client when the nfs server has gone off-line. Strange. This situation cannot be uncommon in Linux home networking. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Switch-off problem
Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/19/08 04:46, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:[..] Now my theory is that the switch-off problem occurs after the following events: 1 - I mount the remote usb drive. 2 - my wife switches off her computer. 3 - I try to umount the remote usb drive -- this cannot be done. I suppose the shutdown program also tries to umount nfs mounts, but fails, and then instead of skipping this step, just hangs. Does this make sense? If so, is there a way to solve this problem? Manually umount -l the remote drive before you shutdown? This does not work. Manually umounting the nfs drive (after the computer which hosts the nfs drive is switched off) just leads to a hang, whether the lazy switch is applied or not. In fact I cannot even type the umount command entirely: the system hangs immediately after typing the first 3 characters (including the leading /) of the mount point. Anyway it seems (from /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh) that the -l switch, as well as the -f switch, is already applied by default. Running Sid; kernel is a stock Debian one: 2.6.25-2-686 #1 SMP Wed May 14 16:42:03 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux It seems that nfs on the remote computer fails to send a command (before shutting itself down) to the computers to which it exports, telling them to umount. This may be a bug, or, much more likely, a failure on my part to understand the nfs export system. Anyway, I never had this trouble while samba was used for sharing, rather than nfs. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Switch-off problem
Recently my computer devolped a new problem: it sometimes does not switch itself off when I do shutdown -h now. It hangs somewhere during the shutdown procedure, and has to be switched off by means of the mains switch at the back. Fortunately the filesystem is ext3, so at the next boot it starts again without problems. I /think/ the problem may be related to nfs. I recently converted my wife's computer to Linux. A usb disk connected to my wife's computer contains media files which we both can use. This common usb disk used to be shared by means of samba/smbfs, but now it is exported by means of nfs. Now my theory is that the switch-off problem occurs after the following events: 1 - I mount the remote usb drive. 2 - my wife switches off her computer. 3 - I try to umount the remote usb drive -- this cannot be done. I suppose the shutdown program also tries to umount nfs mounts, but fails, and then instead of skipping this step, just hangs. Does this make sense? If so, is there a way to solve this problem? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to package?
Jan Brosius wrote: Hi, I have the source of the program maxima. I would like to make a debian package of it. Is there any place where I can find documentation about making debian packages? Thanks for any help Jan Debian packages already exist. Try apt-cache search maxima Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A trick for non-supscrivvers
This message originally had the title A trick for non-subscribers. I send it again with the word misspelled. The original version did not make it to the list because the list interpreted the substring subscribe in the title as a request to subscribe (which I do *not* want). Robots.. This is not a question but a tip. I just discovered this; of course it may be old hat. You want to participate in the list? But you don't want to subscribe, because of the huge volume on the list? The trick: 1. Use icedove as your mail/news reader, and tell Iceweasel you've done so. 2. Subscribe to newsgroup linux.debian.user. 3. Read messages from the newsgroup. 4. If you want to reply to a message, find the same message in http://lists.debian.org/debian-user. Then click the reply to list link. If everything goes well, an Icedove mail compose window will come up, with an empty message area. 5. Now the trick: in this compose window, click options, quote message. In the compose window, the message (which will go to the LIST), the message from the NEWSGROUP will be quoted. This works in Sid. No guarantees for other Debian versions. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 15:06, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: I'll just mention the follow-up. I just tried installing gtk+-2.10 (compiling source from http://www.gtk.org/) and indeed, print to lpr now appears in the print dialog. Without cups or xprint. Just lprng. So as soon as gtk+-2.10 appears in Sid, this problem will be over. You're a bit behind the times, Jan! ;) $ apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0: Installed: 2.12.10-2 Candidate: 2.12.10-2 Version table: *** 2.12.10-2 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Indeed. Very strange. And I even have it installed. But ff3 can print to lpr only when I install the compiled-from-source version of 2.10 (in /usr/local). As soon as I uninstall it, lpr printing on ff3 becomes unavailable. /usr/lib/gtk-2.0 (the Debian version) contains subdirectories: 2.10.0 2.2.0 2.4.0 include modules No 2.12.0! I don't understand this numbering system. /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0 contains: 2.10.0 2.2.0 2.4.0 include (no modules, but the same version numbers). The real difference is probably to be found here: the Sid version has: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -alG /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/ total 104 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 4096 2008-06-09 17:32 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root 4096 2007-04-15 14:58 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root 52980 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-cups.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root 13044 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-file.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root 10084 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-lpr.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root 11140 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-test.so While the compiled-from-source version (from gtk.org) has: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -alG /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/ total 92 drwxr-sr-x 2 root 4096 2008-07-06 21:26 . drwxr-sr-x 6 root 4096 2008-07-06 21:26 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1315 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-file.la -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 37984 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-file.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1309 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-lpr.la -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 34034 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-lpr.so I compiled by just ./configure, make, without setting any options. So by default gtk does not have a cups print backend, only lpr and file (when compiled on a cups-less system, I presume). The Debian version has lpr and file, as well as cups and something called test. Maybe you can explain these findings. Anyway it seems that the bug is not in ff3 but in libgtk2.0-0. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Anthony Campbell wrote: On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: I compiled by just ./configure, make, without setting any options. So by default gtk does not have a cups print backend, only lpr and file (when compiled on a cups-less system, I presume). The Debian version has lpr and file, as well as cups and something called test. [..] It didn't work here. I did the same thing and the appropriate stuff in /usr/local but I still can't print. Did you do something to make FF see the gtk-2.10 stuff? Probably. I messed around a bit with the settings in about:config. Some settings I have now: print.postscript.cups.enabled false [AFAIK not a default setting; you have to create it] print.print_paper_size 1 print.printer_list lp print.save_print_settings true print.show_print_progress true Most of these about:config settings related to printing do not seem to do anything, though. What do you mean by the appropriate stuff in /usr/local? make install as root takes care of that. make uninstall undoes the changes, useful for testing. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Anthony Campbell wrote: I installed the gtk stuff in that way and I do have the entries you listed. But I don't seem to have the same printer entries in about:config. I have put print.print_printer user_set string lpr which doesn't seem to work. I can't see options for your other entries. How did you create an entry for print.postscript.cups.enabled? I set print.print_printer to PostScript/Default, not lpr. But it does not seem to matter. New preferences can be made by right-clicking anywhere in about:config and selecting New. It does not seem possible to remove such preferences once they are created. But the setting of print.postscript.cups.enabled also did not matter. I changed it from false to true and I can still print. I cannot remember exactly which other about:config print things I changed, but I now tried several other things, and none seem to matter. I hope you get it sorted out. Which version exactly did you download from gtk.org? Mine is gtk+-2.10.13. Tarball was called gtk+-2.10.13.tar.bz2 (an older version, not the stable 2.12 version). BTW Mumia W., according to his message, stores his newly-compiled gtk in an exotic location. I didn't do this. /usr/local (the default when you compile from gtk.org) is exotic enough. Stuff which is installed there has priority over similarly-named stuff in /usr. Do you have a printer named lp in printcap? (Or named as an alternative, such as LaserJet|lp ?). Well, I suppose you do. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Anthony Campbell wrote: Mumia M. wrote: I also created a startup script for firefox that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the 'lib' directory where gtk+2.10's binaries are installed, e.g.: #!/bin/sh #-firefox-3.0.sh- export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/exotic/lib exec /usr/local/firefox-3.0/firefox Doesn't seem to help here. I don't have any lib directory in gtk-2.10; just engines, immodules, printbackends, and loaders. Perhaps I should have used an earlier version of gtk-2.10? The standard self-compiled install puts *lots* of stuff in /usr/local, e.g. in /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib /usr/local/share /usr/local/etc /usr/local/lib contains a subdirectory gtk-2.0 which has engines, immodules, printbackends, and loaders in it. But also /usr/local/lib (above gtk-2.10, not inside it) will contain new gtk things. BTW Mumia, it seems you use a (probably non-Debian) firefox (because you use Etch), which is also in /usr/local. I use Sid, and I can now print with the standard Debian Iceweasel. The difficult thing now is to pinpoint where the bug is, exactly. Ihe official Debian source files of libgtk2.0-0 are much bigger than the gtk+-2.10 ones on gtk.org (23 MB vs 14 MB). To compile the Debian version (which does not allow lpr printing through ff3) you need to install *lots* of extra packages: gnome-common intltool libcairo-directfb2 libcups2-dev chrpath gtk-doc-tools libcairo-directfb2-dev libcupsys2-dev svn-buildpackage unp gnome-pkg-tools libsvn-perl svn-buildpackage It seems the package was heavily customised. Maybe some bias favouring CUPS was introduced. But ff2 worked fine, so I am still not certain where the blame really lies. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/07/08 09:14, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: It seems the package was heavily customised. Maybe some bias favouring CUPS was introduced. But ff2 worked fine, so I am still not certain where the blame really lies. I'd say to file a bug against libgtk2.0-0 and see what response you get. I just did. It is bug #489765 now. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0) SOLVED
Filing the bug (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489765) immediately produced an answer: you have to enter gtk-print-backends = file,lpr,cups in ~/.gtkrc-2.0. Then lpr printing works with standard Debian packages. I think it is a bug that this is not done automatically, or at least with some warning during install. Anthony, I hope that this will work in your case. It will need some more research to find out why it worked by default with the user-compiled versions, but I think I won't be bothered. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 06 Jul 2008, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 05 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? 1. because lpr/lpd and magicfilter work perfectly for me. 2. because CUPS offers no advantage for me. 3. because when I did use it in the past my output was slightly worse than with my existing setup. 4. because, in the light of the above, using it will involve me in a fair amount of work for no clear benefit and possibly a worse output. You are right IMHO; it is a bug, not just the Inevitable March Of Progress. It seems clear that the Firefox developers did not intend to drop lpr support: - they don't say anything about such a change in the Release Notes. - in about:config there are still numerous references to PostScript/Default, lpr., etc. - it seems such a silly thing to remove; very little code can be saved by this. Surely it is a bug. From this item on bugzilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430818 it seems that until a few days before the Firefox 3 release (which took place on June 17th) Firefox could not print *at all*. It had a totally empty print dialog box. It seems they could fix it to some extent before the release date, but not completely. Unfortunate for those who have used lpr to complete satisfaction for so long (and not only for directly-connected printers BTW). There are lots of other bugs in the new Firefox/Iceweasel. A particularly serious one (all resized images became black rectangles) apparently was quietly fixed a few days ago. I expect the same will happen with the lpr bug. In the meantime I'll just soldier on with the inoticoming trick. I refuse to change to cups! Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/06/08 09:59, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: You are right IMHO; it is a bug, not just the Inevitable March Of Progress. It seems clear that the Firefox developers did not intend to drop lpr support: - they don't say anything about such a change in the Release Notes. - in about:config there are still numerous references to PostScript/Default, lpr., etc. - it seems such a silly thing to remove; very little code can be saved by this. Surely it is a bug. From this item on bugzilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430818 it seems that until a few days before the Firefox 3 release (which took place on June 17th) Firefox could not print *at all*. [..] That's weird. Sid only has -rc_2_ and I can print just fine. Unless Eric Dorland (the IW maintainer) fixed the code himself. There are lots of other bugs in the new Firefox/Iceweasel. A particularly serious one (all resized images became black rectangles) apparently was quietly fixed a few days ago. I expect the same will happen with the lpr bug. [..] Where did you read this? I resize pictures, and they don't turn into black rectangles. Unless what I'm thinking of isn't what they are talking about... It could be that the black rectangle bug (which occurs / occurred, for instance, when a Web page serves a picture at a specific size, not its natural size) only happened with ATI Radeon cards. There are several bug reports about it, for instance this Ubuntu one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/182038 and very likely also Debian bug #487834. I have a Radeon, and had trouble with this bug in FF3, not in FF2. But as I said, it has disappeared (after an upgrade). The lpr printing bug may also disappear soon. The bugzilla page I mentioned now has a contribution by list member Mumia W. who says lpr printing works again after installing GTK+2.10 (from source). I'm going to try that.. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
I'll just mention the follow-up. I just tried installing gtk+-2.10 (compiling source from http://www.gtk.org/) and indeed, print to lpr now appears in the print dialog. Without cups or xprint. Just lprng. So as soon as gtk+-2.10 appears in Sid, this problem will be over. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: killall firefox-bin
I wrote: Just writing this down gives me an idea: maybe it is a memory leak thing. Next time it happens I'll check free. Hadn't thought of doing that so far.. OK. It happened again. Iceweasel totally frozen. free says: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free total usedfree shared buffers cached Mem: 516128496924 19204 020524 216632 -/+ buffers/cache: 259768 256360 Swap:97992488 979836 OK. I do killall firefox-bin. Restart iceweasel; it works fine again. free now says: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free total usedfree shared buffers cached Mem: 516128445980 70148 021024 193668 -/+ buffers/cache: 231288 284840 Swap:97992488 979836 Not a great deal of difference I think, apart from the Mem free value (but I always understood that the free -/+ buffers/cache value was more important). Does this give any clues? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailbox conversion
Just to mention the follow-up: I used kmail and its convert program on the old dbx files, and it worked fine. But the results were in maildir format (each message in a separate file), not in mbox format (a whole lot of messages in one file, which apparently Thunderbird/Icedove are used to). But some googling revealed a maildir-to-mbox shell script: http://tinyurl.com/6zdn4s This produced mbox files that I could drop into my wife's Thunderbird local mail directory. The only trouble was that the script did not recognise filenames with spaces in them (even when quoted with a reverse slash character). But simple renaming fixed this. Everything works fine now. Thanks, list! Regards. Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailbox conversion
Mark Grieveson wrote: [..] If the idea of running a dos program on Linux nauseates you, then I also read that Kmail, with the kmailcvt (kmail converter) package installed also works. Actuallly I am quite a fan of dosemu (and even of DOS), but DOS can't handle filenames longer than 8+3, let alone names with Japanese characters in them. I think I'll try the kmail route first; this has now been mentioned twice. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mailbox conversion
Finally the motherboard of my wife's computer broke down, so I had to replace it. I could not just get a new motherboard, because they do not sell boards with 462 sockets anymore. The cheapest solution was an MSI motherboard with AMD-64 dual core and one gig of memory. You cannot get anything simpler nowadays. I can clearly remember the time when such specs would have meant supercomputer (as in several million dollars). This operation made her old Windows 2000 unusable. You can run a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit machine, but some things (notably the ATI display drivers for the new motherboard) refuse to install if the OS is not 64-bit. A great opportunity to install Linux. I didn't install Debian itself, but the 64-bit version of Ubuntu. After some tweaking it works fine, including some difficult things like Japanese input, printing through the home network, etc. Before reformatting the Windows hard disk I first copied its contents to a USB external disk. From there I could restore the mail address book (Outlook - Thunderbird) and the browser favorites/bookmarks (IE - Firefox). My wife thinks the new system is great. After all this smalltalk, my real question: I still have lots of old e-mail in Microsoft format (with names like in-2005.dbx, out-2006.dbx, etc; some filenames are in Japanese, and the messages inside the .dbx files are mostly Japanese). I searched the web for converting dbx to mbox. Found lots of answers, most of them seem old, and they do not agree. Is there a canonical way to make .dbx mail archives available to Linux Thunderbird/Icedove? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
killall firefox-bin
At least once a day I have to give the command killall firefox-bin, because the systems just about freezes (at least the browser does), and weird things happen to the X display. Do others have the same experience? Iceweasel as is it now unwisely called by Debian (although according to ps aux the running process is still firefox-bin) seems to be unstable somehow. I don't know why. I can't predict when this freezing will happen, so I can't file a bug about it; it just happens, about one time per day. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: killall firefox-bin
Ron Johnson wrote: You don't tell us which Debian branch and version of IW you are using. I am using Sid, but I still use the testing version of IW (2.0.0.14). The Sid version is at the moment a little bit *too* unstable (for systems with an ATI video card: see bug 485917). So my experience with the unexplained freezing of IW is with 2.0.0.14 (and possibly some of its recent predecessors). The weird things with the X display I mentioned occur when I try to move the window with the dead (or possibly only hibernating) Iceweasel in it. It leaves pieces of itself, and of overlying windows, all over the place. The most annoying thing is that I cannot determine what triggers this, apart from that it happens after IW has been in use for a while. Just writing this down gives me an idea: maybe it is a memory leak thing. Next time it happens I'll check free. Hadn't thought of doing that so far.. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB drive names
Ron Johnson wrote: Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: I bought some USB external hard disks recently. They automount beautifully on a Debian system. When you say that, do you mean the automount daemon, autofs, or a similar feature built into various desktops? Sorry, I should have said on an xfce4 system. I do not know which mechanism is used by xfce4. Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: You can just change the volume label of those drives to whatever you want. Yes, this works, thanks. One needs mtools, because these external disks have a vfat file system on them. I found a step-by-step description here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65830 Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing xterm colors
Jamie Griffin wrote: I've been trying to change the colors on my Xterm to have a black background and green text. You can edit a text file called .Xresources in your home directory (or create it if it does not exist). Put the following lines in the file: xterm*VT100*foreground: green xterm*VT100*background: black xterm*VT100*cursorColor: red (Well, that is if you want the cursor to be red.) Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing xterm colors
Jamie Griffin wrote: Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: You can edit a text file called .Xresources in your home directory (or create it if it does not exist). Put the following lines in the file: xterm*VT100*foreground: green xterm*VT100*background: black xterm*VT100*cursorColor: red I've tried that and it hasn't worked. Not sure what to try next - does anyone have any other ideas? This definitely *should* work. If it does not work something weird is the matter. Are you sure your terminal program is xterm? For instance, do you see the VT Fonts menu if you do a control-rightclick in the terminal window? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB drive names
I bought some USB external hard disks recently. They automount beautifully on a Debian system. One is a LACIE disk, another one is a Western Digital Elements disk. They mount as /media/LaCie and /media/Elements respectively. Question: is it possible to change those names? E.g., if I would like to change the names to (say) Lassie1 and Lassie2, how could I go about it? Also, where is the name of the mount directory (now /media) stored? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Icedove time categories
After some Sid upgrades, Icedove now puts my inbox and sent box messages into time categories: - Today - Yesterday - Last week - Two weeks ago - Old mail I do not need/want this feature, and have been looking for a way to turn it off. Couldn't find it. Anyone knows how? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove time categories
John Allen wrote: View-Sort By-Group By This did not work (it actually says Group By Sort G instead of just Sort By in my case) but View-Sort By-Order Received worked. Thanks! Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
reportbug problem
I tried to file a bug via reportbug yesterday, and it was not sent. Instead, the mail message was saved as a file in /var/tmp. I've successfully sent bug reports through reportbug in the past, so what could be the matter now? Using Sid. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reportbug problem
Hugo, Michael, and Frank all pointed into the direction of exim4. This was correct. Being conservative, I had always resisted upgrading from exim3 to exim4 (because exim4's configuration is more difficult). The latest sid upgrade apparently became annoyed at this and removed exim3, declaring it obsolete -- but without replacing it by anything else.. so I had no mta. Why Sid suddenly has become so intolerant of exim3 I don't know. I could continue to use e-mail (but not reportbug) because my configuration is: vega - procyon - internet procyon is my Sarge home server (still running exim3). vega is my normal computer. An mta on vega is only necessary for programs like reportbug and mail (i.e. mail, the classic program). Other programs (mua's like icedove) already know that procyon is the outgoing smtp server. Maybe I can teach this fact to reportbug and mail also (how?). If so, I won't need an mta on vega. Anyway dpkg -l grep exim on vega revealed that exim3 had been removed. So crossing my fingers I installed exim4 on vega and told it that procyon was the smarthost. It worked. Thanks to all who responded! Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sensors
When I run the sensors command, I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sensors w83627thf-isa-0290 Adapter: ISA adapter VCore: +1.44 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.84 V) +12V: +12.40 V (min = +5.84 V, max = +0.00 V) +3.3V: +3.39 V (min = +0.10 V, max = +3.23 V) +5V: +5.04 V (min = +2.59 V, max = +0.11 V) -12V:+1.70 V (min = -13.76 V, max = -14.91 V) V5SB:+5.05 V (min = +0.27 V, max = +3.44 V) VBat:+0.16 V (min = +0.59 V, max = +3.20 V) fan1: 0 RPM (min = 164 RPM, div = 128) CPU Fan:1854 RPM (min = -1 RPM, div = 4) fan3: 0 RPM (min = 131 RPM, div = 128) M/B Temp:+28.0°C (high = +16.0°C, hyst = +10.0°C) sensor = thermistor CPU Temp:+30.0°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C) sensor = diode temp3: -48.0°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C) sensor = thermistor cpu0_vid: +1.388 V beep_enable:enabled Are these values reasonable, or is there something wrong with the lm-sensors configuration? I am especially wondering about the values for -12V, VBat, V5SB (don't know what this is), and temp3. Also, my box has 3 fans (PSU fan, CPU fan, case fan) and they all turn, but sensors says only one is turning. Anyone knows a good tutorial about setting up sensors? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] webcam colours
I have an extremely cheap (8 euro) webcam (Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd Flexcam 100, according to lsusb). It works on my Sid box with 2.6.24-1-686 kernel, using the gspca kernel module. When I test it with camorama, the picture looks blue (i.e. blue is the dominant colour). On the other hand, in Skype, the colours seem OK. Then I read somewhere that the gspca module should be loaded with the option force_rgb=1. This reverses the situation: natural colours in camorama, but blue picture in Skype. Anyone else seen something similar? Neither Skype nor camorama work without the gspca module loaded. I wonder if there is a bug in a) my €8 cam b) gspca c) camorama d) Skype. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Icedove news
I recently started using Icedove for mail news (until now, I only used Iceape or a hacked Fedora Seamonkey version). I have some problems with news. I have subscribed to a few newsgroups offered by the news server at my ISP (news.planet.nl). Each time I click on a newsgroup (say, alt.html) a window pops up asking if I want to subscribe to this newsgroup (to which I am already subscribed). If I say yes, a side-effect is that in the newsrc file (in my case ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/default.lgh/News/ newsrc-news.planet.nl) a new line is created for this newsgroup. The newsrc file therefore tends to grow without bounds, with many duplicate lines. Also, and because of this, it is impossible to unsubscribe from newsgroups. If I try to unsubscribe, the number of duplicate lines for this group in the newsrc is diminished by one. But as there are still many left, the next time I start icedove I am still subscribed to that group. Do other list members also get these do you want to subscribe popups when using icedove for news? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove news
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:30:41 Ralph Katz wrote: Hi Jan -- No. On up-to-date Etch, using icedove version 1.5.0.14pre (20071018), there is no problem here. You could close icedove, move your ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/default.lgh/News/ out of the way, and let icedove rebuild it upon restart. Then re-subscribe to your groups. I've never had your particular problem, but this solution has worked for re-setting subscriptions and message-read data for me before on earlier versions of thunderbird. Thanks. This seems to have done it. I renamed the whole ~/.mozilla-thunderbird to ~/.mozilla-thunderbird-old, then dpkg --purge'd mozilla-thunderbird, thunderbird, and icedove, then re-installed icedove. It proceeded to import settings (from where, I cannot guess); but anyway it works now, and the pop-ups no longer occur. Only the font of the messages had changed, but that could be fixed easily. Thanks again, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fsck.ext3
After converting my file system to ext3, I thought there would be no more lengthy fsck's every 20 or so boot-ups. But they still happen. Some Googling revealed different opinions; some people say ext3 does not need periodic fsck's, others say even with ext3, it is best to fsck every N boots, because PC hardware is cr*p. And there are also several different methods (apparently) for disabling periodic fsck's. Is there a standard Debian doctrine or standard Debian practice for this? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [OT] where is conio.h with getch()?
You can use ncurses, but if it is only a getch() you want, you can implement it using select() (not a function which is easy to understand BTW). Just google for getch together with select. A sample implementation is here: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/1999-08/msg00385.html Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]
Александър Л. Димитров wrote: Quoth Hugo Vanwoerkom: ext2. Never have used any other. I seriously hope that this was a joke... Maybe it was, but I never used anything but ext2 either, and that is no joke. It has worked fine for many years. I often considered upgrading to ext3, but so far I've never taken this step. I expect this is the same for many users of old. I am especially put off by the Wikipedia article on ext3. It gives a rather long list of disadvantages. One of them (No checksumming in journal) even sounds pretty frightening. The list of advantages is very short, and they are mostly advantages over Reiserfs and other non-ext2 systems, not advantages over ext2. But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year, unfortunately also yesterday evening. In such a case there is nothing you can do but pull the plug. Then when you reboot, all sorts of alarming messages appear. By invoking fsck one can normally get the system to boot again, but there may be side-effects (e.g. my old iceweasel history was gone after the reboot yesterday). So now I am more or less ready to take the plunge. But I would still like some advice. 1. Is it true that ext3 always lets you recover smoothly after a freeze and pull the plug, or after a power cut? Or are there still ifs and buts? 2. Is significant room on the disk (or partition) taken by the journal? By how much can I expect the disk capacity to be reduced? 3. It is said ext3 is slow. Does this apply to writing only, or also to reading? I.e., is there a danger that when I play a film with mplayer, I'll get the dreaded message Your system is TOO SLOW to play this? 4. I have my whole Linux system, apart from swap (i.e. the root, and everything that branches off it, like /boot, /var, /usr) just on one logical partition. Can I still convert to ext3, possibly by using a Knoppix or Ubuntu CD-ROM to boot from? 5. Where can I find reliable, step-by-step instructions for the conversion? There are several such instruction sites on the Web, but I am not sure they always agree. PS: Kernel is 2.6.20-1-686 Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]
Paul Johnson wrote: Step 1: Get root privileges. Step 2: Type tune2fs -j /dev/whatever Step 3: Remount the filesystem ext3... I did this, and indeed it was amazingly easy. On a partition of about 24 G (well, this is an *old* disk!) a file /.journal of 128 M (indeed much less than 1%) was created instantaneously. Now mount -l shows that I have an ext3 system. What I did was (may have been over-cautious): Step 1: close all applications, close X, get into a console. Step 2: get root privileges. Step 3: close the SMB connection to my wife's Windows machine. Step 4: /etc/init.d/networking stop Step 5: edit /etc/fstab; change ext2 to ext3 for my root device (/dev/hda5 in my case). Step 6: type tune2fs -j /dev/hda5. The journal was created instantaneously (I'd expected this to take a long time. but it did not). Step 7: reboot. Some steps may have been unnecessary, but it seems I have a working ext3 system now. It is really easy. The real smoke test will come, of course, when I pull the plug. Will do this now; if you do not hear from me, the test will have failed. Thanks to all who responded! Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]
Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: Some steps may have been unnecessary, but it seems I have a working ext3 system now. It is really easy. The real smoke test will come, of course, when I pull the plug. Will do this now; if you do not hear from me, the test will have failed. Thanks to all who responded! And it worked! I rudely pulled the plug when X and its apps were still active, and after restoring the voltage the system rebooted without any complaints. Hugo, you should convert to ext3 as well. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]
Curt Howland wrote: If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank file. This would explain why creating the journal does not seem to take any time. But strings showed that there was a lot of stuff (at least lots of filenames) in it. Perhaps the journal is *created* as a blank file, and then some background process immediately begins to fill it? Anyway, whatever it does, it seems to be a very clever system. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open Office and German / Japanese Input
Dietrich Bollmann wrote: Hi, Every now and then I have to write something in German or Japanese. And normally this entails about one week of trials to make Open Office work again with scim or uim (both input methods). When finally everything works, it is normally too late for my letter but there is still time enough to give Open Office a chance to not work anymore when needed again. [..] Any idea how to make Open Office work with uim or scim again? If you have a UTF-8 locale (like en_GB.UTF-8; this is case-sensitive) there is no need to ever change it again. Google International text support on Linux and select the first result. This explains all the details. For Japanese, you need anthy (most convenient in combination with uim). If you want to use scim (which is possible although I do not recommend it) be aware that scim needs a line in /etc/scim/global.conf, if you want to use it in an en_GB locale: /SupportedUnicodeLocales = en_US.UTF-8,en_GB.UTF-8 (the default is that scim only works with en_US.UTF-8; weird, but this has not changed for years). Anyway, uim is better than scim for international users (I think) because it has better support for the Compose Key. For German on an English keyboard you do not need any special software. Just set up your keyboard to be the us keyboard with the alt-intl variant. This can be used both for English and German. When this is set up correctly, Japanese / German / English input will work in all programs, including Openoffice, and will continue working after upgrades as well. Regards, beste Grüße, よろしくお願いします, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to find the font?
This question is not Debian-specific. I am working in X (not in text mode), and some text is displayed in some application; e.g. in iceweasel, but it could be something else. So a part of my screen is filled with some text, in some font, or in various fonts. Is there any way to find out which fonts are actually being used? I mean, ideally I would like to be able to select a part of the displayed text, and then some application, daemon, or whatever, would say, e.g.: this is Freemono, at 16 points. Is this possible? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot get mathml fonts to work in Iceape or Iceweasel
H.S. wrote: I think I have succeeded in installing the fonts (see the output of some commands below). But I am not able to get proper rendering on this page: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/demo/texvsmml.xhtml MATHML in Mozilla products is still buggy in Debian (old bug, see #401533 and others). To get correct MATHML display, you can edit /etc/iceape/iceaperc, changing MOZ_ENABLE_PANGO=1 to MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1. However, this only cures the *display* of MATHML. *Printing* MATHML still does not work correctly. Also, disabling Pango has side-effects. Some non-Latin scrips (like Devanagari) are not displayed (or printed) correctly when Pango is off. If printing MATHML is important for you, you can try to install the Fedora Core version. FC cured the bug in December last year. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simultaneous sounds, again (solved, probably)
I am pleased to say that I now managed to get simultaneous sound working in Debian, almost perfectly. My sound compatibility matrix is now: mp/s xmmsyoutube skype mp/s OKOK OKOK xmms OKXOKOK youtubeOKOK OKOK skype OKOK OKN/A mp/s means mplayer with sdl audio output, as before. I had to set this *both* by a line in ~/.mplayer/config: ao=sdl and through the GUI (gmplayer, preferences, audio). It appears both are necessary. The X in the combination xmms-xmms should probably be N/A, because xmms just does not allow running 2 instances of itself simultaneously. Several reactions (on-list and off-list) suggested using a sound daemon, but according to the 31 August 2007 entry on the buglandia blog (http://buglandia.blogspot.com), sound daemons (like esd and arts) are now *outdated*, and even somewhat *evil* (fundamentally wrong). The solution is software sound mixing. Apparently, sounds can be mixed by the hardware (the sound card) or by software. Windows always uses software sound mixing by default. So sound mixing always works on Windows, no matter what hardware you have. Linux, developed by and for tech types, tries to use hardware mixing if the sound card can support it (but by no means all of them do), because this is more efficient. Software mixing became something of a stepchild. But it appears that in the more modern versions (of Linux and alsa; certainly in Sid) software mixing works now. The flightgear wiki (http://tinyurl.com/38smlf) explains this better than I can. To make it work, I followed a recipe on the alsa wiki (http://tinyurl.com/2vhoqt), because the recipe on buglandia did not work for me. What did was: -- make sure there is NO /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc files present on the system. -- export two environment variables: export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa export AUDIODEV=plug:dmix (you can put both commands in ~/.bash_profile). -- make sure that mplayer uses sdl for audio output. -- make sure there are no sound daemons running (jack, esd, arts, whatever). It will now work after you log out/log in, and perhaps after restarting alsa (/etc/init.d/alsasound restart). Well, I hope it does. It now does for me. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simultaneous sounds, again
Trying to get multiple simultaneous sound streams working on my Sid system, I got as far as the following: mp/s mp/a xmmsyoutube skype mp/s OK N/A XXXX mp/a N/A X XXXX xmms X X XOKOK youtubeX X OK OKOK skype X X OK OKN/A Notes: - each row in the table begins with the sound using program which is started FIRST. - mp/s means: using mplayer to watch a local .avi file, with sdl audio output. - mp/a means: using mplayer to watch a local .avi file, with alsa audio output. - youtube means: watching a youtube (i.e. Flash) movie with iceape. - X means: the program which is started second produces no sound - XX means: the program which is started second produces no sound, and there are other problems (iceape freezing). - OK means OK. - N/A means: test cannot be done, or is meaningless. So it seems that there is one group (xmms/Skype/youtube) the members of which tolerate each other (all three can even make noise together). There is another group (mplayer) which allows multiple instances with simultaneous sound, but only if sdl sound is selected. However, the two groups do not tolerate each other. I cannot hear Skype ringing while playing a local .avi file, for instance. Does anyone get different/better results? Any tips? I also think (but cannot prove this now) that a few months ago I could hear skype while playing .avi movies, but that it became impossible since (doubtless through some upgrade). Sound hardware is AC 97 on motherboard. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AltGr on Japanese keyboard
The jp keyboard layout (/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/jp) does not seem to specify any 3rd (or 4th) level symbols. I do not know what you want to do with your AltGr key, but if it is to get things like AltGr-5 = Euro symbol, or AltGr-minus = dead macron key, you could try setxkbmap=us(alt-intl)+jp or perhaps in your case setxkbmap=us(alt-intl)+jp(OADG109A) I do not have a Japanese keyboard so I cannot test it completely. Please tell if this works or not. Regards, Jan http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu.html#T6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AltGr on Japanese keyboard
Oops, sorry, this should be without =, e.g. setxkbmap us(alt-intl)+jp or perhaps in your case setxkbmap us(alt-intl)+jp(OADG109A) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to fix Language error
It seems that nowadays in Debian, you must set the locale by running as root update-locale LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 This stores the locale value in /etc/defaults/locale (instead of /etc/environment). Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
