Re: You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig'

2003-06-27 Thread John Galt
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, nori heikkinen wrote:

>on Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:04:20PM -0500, Nathan Poznick insinuated:
>> Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>> > However, I *do* have libncurses5 installed, as well as every other
>> > packages which matched a search for ncurses on my dselect. My
>> > sources for apt are set as
>>
>> libncurses5-dev
>
>this makes me wonder why make menuconfig doesn't tell you to install
>this particular package!  it's completely non-intuitive ...

Because menuconfig isn't under the control of Debian.  it's under the
control of the kernel people.

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Color black not defined

2002-05-20 Thread John Galt
Hi,
When I run xemacs , i get an warning message 
"color black not defined" and in the text of emacs, my
cursor is not visible which I assume is due the
warning message.

How can I fix this and what other information should I
give ..I use Gnome Sawfish window manager and use
Woody , Xfree86 server,
I have most of the font packages
xfonts-base, 75,100dpi,xfongs-scalable..

Any ideas ?
Thanks
John

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Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material

2002-03-15 Thread John Galt
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On 13 Mar 2002, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:

>Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Changing some working simply because you are offended by it is just
>> plain wrong. You are making a decision based solely on your own personal
>> criteria, rather than that of sound technical advice.
>
>I think a Debian developer has a perfectly legitimate right to do
>this.  I'm certainly *not* saying he ought to in any particular case.
>
>There is no rule *anywhere* in Debian that one has some kind of
>obligation to give upstream authors an unlimited soapbox.  Indeed, if
>an upstream author insisted on one, we would regard that as a
>requirement thoroughly incompatible with the DFSG.

Isn't this exactly the obligation you impose when you allow that invariant 
sections from the GFDL are DFSG-free?  The classic invariant section is 
literally RMS's soapbox in the EMACS documentation...

>Thomas
>
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Re: Securing bind..

2001-12-30 Thread John Galt
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, P Prince wrote:

>The eaisest and most failsafe way to secure bind is to install djbdns.

Because after djbdns, bind 4.2 looks like a pinnacle of security...

>Google is your friend.

Apparently it didn't get you a clue...

>-Tech
>
>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Petre Daniel wrote:
>
>> Well,i know Karsten's on my back and all,but i have not much time to
>> learn,and too many things to do at my firm,so i am asking if one of you has
>> any idea how can bind be protected against that DoS attack and if someone
>> has some good firewall for a dns server ( that resolves names for internal
>> clients and also keeps some .ro domains) please post it to the list.. both
>> ipchains and iptables variants are welcome..
>> thank you.
>>
>> Petre L. Daniel,System Administrator
>> Canad Systems Pitesti Romania,
>> http://www.cyber.ro, email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Tel:+4048220044, +4048206200
>>
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Re: what's the name?

2001-09-20 Thread John Galt

Actually, it's in the purview of the Release Manager, who is Anthony
Towns.  I think woody+1 is tentatively named sarge.

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, oivvio polite wrote:

>Who gets to wote, developers, users, Rush Limbaugh? I relly like the little
>green fellows that gets "saved" by Buzz Lightyear in the first movie. Don't
>remember their name though.
>
>Also sprach Steve Kowalik:
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:24:15PM -0400, Jeff Maxson uttered:
>> > slink, potato, woody...what's going to be the name of the next "testing"?
>>
>> Buzz, Rex, Bo, Hamm, Slink, Potato, Woody.
>> At the moment, it's dubbed 'woody+1', but I doubt that will stick. :-)
>
>
>

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Re: uptime

2001-09-19 Thread John Galt

Scyld.  Two-kernel-monte.  Becker's had the setup to do it for about a
year, but I think it resets uptime...

On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, dman wrote:

>On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 05:16:37AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
>| also sprach Jason Boxman (on Sat, 15 Sep 2001 08:22:26PM -0400):
>| > Dude, what kernel version is on those?!
>|
>| > > piper:/var/log# uptime
>| > > 16:58:42 up 854 days, 11:46, 67 users, load average: 0.05, 0.05, 0.01
>|
>| 2.0.22
>|
>| > > titan:~# uptime
>| > > 11:06am up 1556 day(s), 4:30, 113 users, load average: 0.06, 0.13, 0.11
>|
>| 2.0.38
>|
>| these machines are around: piper as a modem/fax server, and piper as a
>| print server. work just fine. :)
>
>The next killer-feature would be the ability to upgrade the kernel
>while it is running without losing the uptime.  :-).
>
>-D
>
>
>

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Re: Wordperfect 9 and e-mail

2001-09-06 Thread John Galt


I think this functionality (save as email) was introduced in WP 7.  I
would HOPE that it propagated.  Look in the drop-down menu in the save as
dialog, and see if there isn't some sort of email thing.

On 6 Sep 2001, John Conover wrote:

>
>Is it possible to send a Wordperfect document as an e-mail without
>saving it to a file, calling netscape, and including it as an
>attachment?
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   John
>
>

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Re: Good mail management techniques?

2001-09-06 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ailbhe Leamy wrote:

>
>Then I have a script that extracts all the probable mailbox names from
>my .procmailrc, and puts them in my mutt mailboxes file. No idea
>whether pine will let you do the same, but it might.

Pine builds them as needed: I found this one out after cosmic rays
twiddled the bits in my .procmailrc (honest! it wasn't like a TYPO or
anything... :)

>Ailbhe
>mutt devotee.
>
>

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Re: Quoting styles, cont (Was Re: Fonts in GTK)

2001-09-06 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote:

>On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:07:40PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
>> >>  * You are not expected to understand this.
>> >> --comment from Unix system 6 source, credited to Lions and Johnson
>> >> Who is John Galt?  [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who: finger me for GPG key
>> >
>> >Since you're such a fan of jeopardy style quoting, why is your sig
>> >always at the bottom?  Seems hypocritical.
>>
>> I think the sig said it all  You really aren't expected to understand.
>
>Wow, your rapier wit is amazing to behold.  I'm always impressed by
>people who raise a big fuss and then obfuscate the issue when asked a
>direct question.

No, YOU obfuscated the issue with a nonsensical question.

>*plonk*

Surprise!  bad logic and bad taste go hand in hand.

>

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Re: is exim the cause for this?

2001-09-06 Thread John Galt

Okay, the return path was the wrong one, but it still stands that it IS
normal behavior to inform the sender of the message and not the whole list
on a bounce: The address specified by murphy IS the address of the sender,
I just can't figure out which header actually relays this information.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Colin Watson wrote:

>On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:45:31PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
>> >Yes. The mail transfer agent used to deliver mail to one of the subscribers
>> >of debian-user is buggy; it is sending error messages to people who send
>> >mail to debian-user rather than to the adres specified by Debian's mailing
>> >list software for such messages.
>>
>> you mean:
>>
>> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> That is, bounces to the person originating the message?
>
>That address isn't delivered to you; try it if you like ... It's also
>set depending on the *recipient*, not the sender.
>
>Cheers,
>
>

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Re: Quoting styles, cont (Was Re: Fonts in GTK)

2001-09-06 Thread John Galt

Ahhh.  So the brokenness lies in the lack of quotation definers and the
implicit one line open (BTW, pine/pico leaves two, but angle-brackets
things in pretty well).  I just figured that the brokenness was an
artifact of where the cursor gets put, not having dealt with Lookout
(personal reasons, I know of the guy who wrote it and have nothing good to
say about him--if I was stuck in windoze, I'd prolly use a third party
app).  So the top-posting coupled with the microso~1 stuff is really a
no-op, since the non-quotation quotation can be dealt with in the process
of editing, since a bottom poster has to cursor through the old message,
there should be no problem adding in an angle-bracket on every line.
Perhaps in light of arguements like this, where the other side gets
demonized by micros~1 unfairly, there ought to be the Debian equivalent of
Godwin's razor: Since micros~1 is the functional equivalent of Nazis in
Debian, it follows that for uses inside Debian, that Godwin's razor cuts
on mentions of micros~1...

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Craig Dickson wrote:

>John Galt wrote:
>> Elm predates any microsoft email product...  Try to quote stuff in elm,
>> the cursor goes to the beginning of the text.
>
>Where the cursor starts out is beside the point. What matters is the
>structure of the message. Most traditional Internet email clients, such
>as elm or mutt, give you a document like this:
>
>___cut_here___
>John Galt wrote:
>> Elm predates any microsoft email product...  Try to quote stuff in elm,
>> the cursor goes to the beginning of the text.
>
>___cut_here___
>
>The use of angle-bracket quote marks on the left margin makes it easy to
>tell what text is new and what is quoted, facilitating proper replies.
>Moving the cursor to the bottom is trivial, and I think it's best that
>the client not do that automatically, as it would discourage the user
>from cutting out irrelevant material from the quoted message. (In fact,
>it is easily observed that most people who reply at the top fail to trim
>the quoted text.)
>
>Microsoft's mail clients, on the other hand, give you something like this:
>
>___cut_here___
>
>
>--- Original message ---
>From: John Galt
>
>Elm predates any microsoft email product...  Try to quote stuff in elm,
>the cursor goes to the beginning of the text.
>___cut_here___
>
>Note that they provide no left-margin quote marks, nor any indication of
>where the original message ends, and they leave a blank line or two at
>the top, implying that your reply should go there (otherwise, why put
>it there?).
>
>Craig
>
>
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Re: Quoting styles, cont (Was Re: Fonts in GTK)

2001-09-05 Thread John Galt

Elm predates any microsoft email product...  Try to quote stuff in elm,
the cursor goes to the beginning of the text.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Bud Rogers wrote:

>On Tuesday 04 September 2001 22:43 pm, Craig Dickson wrote:
>
>> Karsten is using the word as it is commonly used among computer
>> professionals. When some previously-common (or even not so common)
>> practice or standard is superseded and no longer recommended, it is said
>> to be "deprecated". One often sees a phrase such as "strongly deprecated"
>> in reference to something that is not merely no longer recommended, but
>> actively discouraged or considered a Very Bad Thing.
>
>Except that in this case we're not talking about a practice that was not
>previously common or even not so common.  We're talking about a practice that
>was virtually unknown until Microsoft flooded the market with badly broken
>mail and news clients that make it very difficult to properly quote or
>attribute anything.
>
>

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Re: is exim the cause for this?

2001-09-05 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:

>On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 21:52:30 +0200, Timeboy wrote:
>> And the same happens if i write e new mail to debians user-list. Any idea
>> why this happens?
>
>Yes. The mail transfer agent used to deliver mail to one of the subscribers
>of debian-user is buggy; it is sending error messages to people who send
>mail to debian-user rather than to the adres specified by Debian's mailing
>list software for such messages.

you mean:

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That is, bounces to the person originating the message?

>> On 2001.09.05 14:40 Mensagem Automatica da TERRA wrote:
>> Your message with subject [Re: i810 sound?] was not delivered to the
>> following recipient: [heiliger].  This recipient's mailbox is full.
>
>>  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed,  5 Sep 2001 09:40:11 -0300 (GMT+3)
>
>Hopefully this problem address' subscription will be cancelled by the
>listmaster soon.
>
>Ray
>

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Re: Quoting styles, cont (Was Re: Fonts in GTK)

2001-09-05 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote:

>On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:34:05PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 06:11:03PM -0700, Eric G. Miller wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 03:10:27PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>> >> > but this practice is strongly deprecated.
>> >>^^^
>> >>  Hell does that mean?
>> >>
>> >> Webster's Ninth Collegiate Dictionary has this to say...
>> >>
>> >> dep-re-cate  1. to express mild or regretful disapproval of  2.
>> >> DEPRECIATE
>> >>
>> >> I "strongly mildly dissapprove" of that quoting convention! Huh?
>> >
>> >"deprecate" is a common technical term (hang out at the IETF for a
>> >while).  When a standard is trached, it is marked "deprecated" so
>> >people know that though they might have to put up with it from others,
>> >they shouldn't implement or use it themselves.
>> >
>> >Perhaps Karsten should have used "discouraged" rather than deprecated,
>> >but close enough.
>>
>> Well that's the problem, isn't it?  Karsten (and yourself, variously)
>> isn't really "putting up" with it, now is he?
>
>Putting up with retarded behavior doesn't mean you are prohibited from
>discouraging said behavior.
>
>> --
>>  * You are not expected to understand this.
>> --comment from Unix system 6 source, credited to Lions and Johnson
>> Who is John Galt?  [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who: finger me for GPG key
>
>Since you're such a fan of jeopardy style quoting, why is your sig
>always at the bottom?  Seems hypocritical.

I think the sig said it all  You really aren't expected to understand.

>Good luck,
>
>

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Re: Quoting styles, cont (Was Re: Fonts in GTK)

2001-09-05 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:

>on Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 01:53:24PM -0600, John Galt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>
>> In case nobody told you, this is a mailinglist, not usenet.
>
>Wrong, it's both:
>
>news:muc.lists.debian.user

mail to news gateways notwithstanding

>> To be more precise, this is a reliable method of ensuring that
>> anything you reply to has already been read, thus you shouldn't need
>> to scroll through the question all of the time to get to the answer.
>> However, for the people who wish to backstop, it's important that the
>> question be in the same message as the answer so that misteaks can be
>> corrected contextually. Thus top posting is more appropriate.
>
>My preference is that top posting never be considered appropriate.
>We've now got a situation in which I'm responding to a top-quoted post,
>in which prior content is now further down the list.

And you somehow are shriveling up?

>If a long response in which context is largely irrelevant is desired,
>quoting a line or two of context, and posting beneath it, is far
>preferable.

Unless, of course the line or two are the wrong ones.

>> Needless to say, the best method is to let the replier define how
>> their reply goes, but you really didn't do that to Hall, so I feel
>> justified in correcting you.
>
>The problem with suggesting prefix responses are suitable in any context
>is that this leads almost immediately to bad practices:

Yeah, like the free exchange of ideas: can't have that.

>  - Prefix responses including the entire message body, sigs included,
>of the message replied to.  In one recent case, this was up to 600+
>lines of a list digest.  The *multiple* miscreants were roundly
>flamed.

Better than having to deal with 600+ lines of quote, then the response.
What makes you think that appending was going to change their quotation?

>  - Excessive quoting, sigs and all.

How does appending rather than prepending change this?

>  - Prefix responses where followups (and hence, mixed pre/postfix
>responses) are likely.  E.g.:  present case.

So?  Did someone hold a gun to anyone's heads to post the way they did?
(actually, I kind of got logically forced into at least one prepend
response: it's hard to argue a case you don't follow)

>  - Prefix responses in all contexts.

As opposed to postfix responses in all contexts?  It is much more often
the case that a postfixer screws up a nice prefix thread than the
opposite: often prefix threads devolve into point-by-point, while postfix
threads end up with lost context because of overzealous editing.

>The poster is requesting the favor of a reply from the readership.  This
>particular reader strongly deprecates prefix response, and tends to skip
>such posts.

THIS one thinks that the message is more important than the form.

>From "NNQ: Quoting Style in Newsgroup Postings"

WHAT DAMN NEWSGROUP?  Mail to news does NOT mean it's a newsgroup, anymore
than bit.listserv.coco is a mailinglist, even though Princeton has mirrored it
to a mailing list since it's inception.

>http://www.ptialaska.net/~kmorgan/nquote.html
>
>Q7: Why shouldn't I put my comments above the quoted material?

When you read your mail with rn, and have to send email over the "this
message is about to be sent to millions of computers" warning of pnews,
we'll talk.

>A7: Keep in mind that you're not writing just for the person whose
>posting you're responding to. (If you are, you should be e-mailing
>your response instead of posting it.) Thousands of other people may
>read what you write.  People who aren't directly involved in a
>discussion themselves, and who are probably following several
>discussions at once, usually follow the logic more easily when they
>can read the material in more-or-less chronological order.
>
>When you have just a single question and response, and they're both
>short, and the discussion doesn't develop any further, it really
>doesn't make that much difference in practice. But it's impossible
>to predict in advance whether a response will draw another response.
>So in general, it's best to put your response below the text that
>you're responding to.
>
>
>From "Email Quotes" in the Jargon File:
>http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/Email-Quotes.html

No, the jargon file (THD) never had anything about posting at all.  It was
added in TNHD.

http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/external/p.dourish/jargon.html

Therefore, this is all the personal preference of ESR.

>Most netters view an inclusion as a promise that comment on it will
>immed

Re: Quoting styles, cont (Was Re: Fonts in GTK)

2001-09-05 Thread John Galt

Well that's the problem, isn't it?  Karsten (and yourself, variously)
isn't really "putting up" with it, now is he?

On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote:

>On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 06:11:03PM -0700, Eric G. Miller wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 03:10:27PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>> > but this practice is strongly deprecated.
>>^^^
>> Hell does that mean?
>>
>> Webster's Ninth Collegiate Dictionary has this to say...
>>
>> dep-re-cate  1. to express mild or regretful disapproval of  2.
>> DEPRECIATE
>>
>> I "strongly mildly dissapprove" of that quoting convention! Huh?
>
>"deprecate" is a common technical term (hang out at the IETF for a
>while).  When a standard is trached, it is marked "deprecated" so
>people know that though they might have to put up with it from others,
>they shouldn't implement or use it themselves.
>
>Perhaps Karsten should have used "discouraged" rather than deprecated,
>but close enough.
>
>

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Re: Replacement for WRQ Reflections?

2001-09-04 Thread John Galt

I've had no problems using good old fashioned Unix tools, like startx --
query , ssh (commercial on the HP box, natch), and telnet.
xterm-debian and hpterm are so close it's not even funny.

On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Sean Morgan wrote:

>I was wondering if anyone knew of something that could replace
>Reflections, specifically its support for HP's NS/VT protocol?
>
>
>

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Re: Fonts in GTK

2001-09-04 Thread John Galt

In case nobody told you, this is a mailinglist, not usenet.  To be more
precise, this is a reliable method of ensuring that anything you reply to
has already been read, thus you shouldn't need to scroll through the
question all of the time to get to the answer.  However, for the people
who wish to backstop, it's important that the question be in the same
message as the answer so that misteaks can be corrected contextually. Thus
top posting is more appropriate.  Needless to say, the best method is to
let the replier define how their reply goes, but you really didn't do
that to Hall, so I feel justified in correcting you.

On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:

>On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 08:26:35 -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote:
>> Now, 'use postfix response' ??
>
>"Reply below the text you're responding to".
>
>To borrow a sig: "Answering above the the original message is called top
>posting. Sometimes also called the Jeopardy style. Usenet is Q & A not A &
>Q." -- Bob Gootee
>

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Re: quick Q about dos disketts

2001-09-04 Thread John Galt

he needs mtools as well to make DOS format.  fdutils Suggests: mtools, so
he won't get it through apt unless he specifically gets it...

On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:

>on Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 06:31:16PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL 
>PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> Hi all. what do I need to install to be able to format DOS diskettes?
>> thanks!
>> xuc
>
>$ apt-get install fdutils
>$ man superformat
>
>

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Re: quick Q about dos disketts

2001-09-04 Thread John Galt

mtools and fdutils

On Mon, 3 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi all. what do I need to install to be able to format DOS diskettes?
>thanks!
>xuc
>
>
>

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Re: apt problems with http.us.debian.org?

2001-09-04 Thread John Galt

Pretty often actually.  Have multiple sources, be prepared to comment out
the ones that don't work right now, and re-update and re-upgrade if the
situation occurs again.  Basically, http.us.debian.org is never the most
trustworthy under the best of circumstances, and sometimes can be a real
bitch, depending on what round-robin server you get.  Try using FTP, I've
found better success that way.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Mike Kuhar wrote:

>Good evening Fellow Debians,
>
>I went to do an apt-get upgrade, just a few moments ago, after doing an update
>on unstable.  It told me I had 54 packages to upgrade.  The problem is that 
>only
>half actually downloaded and upgraded from http.us.debian.org.  The rest 404'd
>on me.  What gives?  Any one else experience this problem?
>
>-mk
>
>
>
>

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Re: mounting CDs? and emacs under SU?

2001-09-02 Thread John Galt

DO NOT use xhost + without a hostname, that literally allows anything
connecting to your computer to open up an X client running on your
computer.  If you MUST use xhost to do this, use xhost +localhost

On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, Akintayo Holder wrote:

>
>> when you open up normal emacs with DISPLAY variable set, it tries to
>> create it's own window (and I repeat emacs, not Xmeacs).  So you just
>> have to figure out how to allow root from su session to conncet to
>> xserver. look at xhost as advised.
>
>try xhost +
>
>

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Re: To run a binary as a daemon

2001-09-01 Thread John Galt

you may want to run it under nohup or screen...  otherwise, stdout is
going to get a lot of junk, and that means that your active tty gets it if
there's no internal redirection.

On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>If I wish to run a binary (say, AIRC) as a daemon , what should I do ?
>My thoughts are something like:
>   maybe add into /etc/rc.d , a file with an entry like
>  if [-x /path/AIRC]
>  ./path/AIRC  #Execute this
>
>Please offer your views on this . I know I have not thought enough over my own 
>idea.
>
>Thanks,
>([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>Shyam
>
>"Quality can Never be Quantified . It exists by itself and Quantity might hand 
>it an
>untimely demise if blown out of the very fragile proportions that constitute 
>it ."
>
>
>

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Re: ALERT: XFree86 4.1.0-3 maintainer scripts hosed; please wait for 4.1.0-4

2001-09-01 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Craig Dickson wrote:

>dman wrote:
>
>> I use bash as my shell.  However the depends for initrd and/or
>> kernel-image want ash, so /bin/sh is ash.
>
>I have ash installed also, but my /bin/sh --> bash. So I don't think that
>the ash install script makes that association, at least not if it's
>already pointing elsewhere.

It shouldn't.  /bin/sh -> /bin/bash in all cases unless you do weird
things.  There have been some corner cases where a postinst script
overwrote the link, but they've all been reported as bugs and fixed.

>Craig
>
>
>

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Re: Configuring a printer whose specification is not shown by printtool

2001-09-01 Thread John Galt

Use something other than a roothat-based printer configuration tool.  I
think that magicfilter knows about epson LX-300's, and I even think that
Epson once made some filters specifically available from their website.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I am installing Epson LX-300 and printtool shows all Printer categories except 
>this
>one.
>What do I do ?
>Thanks,
>([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>Shyam
>"Quality can Never be Quantified . It exists by itself and Quantity might hand 
>it an
>untimely demise if blown out of the very fragile proportions that constitute 
>it ."
>
>
>

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Re: An MP3 player

2001-08-28 Thread John Galt

mpg123 is non-free.  it's only free-as-in-free-beer, not
free-as-in-free-speech.  It uses the Fraunhofer codec.

On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Bob Nielsen wrote:

>On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 07:59:04AM -0700, David Frischknecht wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Does anyone know where I can get a free MP3 player prepackaged into a
>> .deb file?  Thanks.
>
>apt-get install mpg123
>
>
>

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Re: An MP3 player

2001-08-28 Thread John Galt

mpg321 for free as in free speech
mpg123 for free as in free beer
xmms for free as in free GUI junk

On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, David Frischknecht wrote:

>
>Hello,
>
>Does anyone know where I can get a free MP3 player prepackaged into a
>.deb file?  Thanks.
>
>
>
>David A. Frischknecht
>http://www.fishnetonline.freeurl.com
>
>
>
>-
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Make international calls for as low as $0.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger.

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Re: Sys Admin guide specific to Debian?

2001-08-28 Thread John Galt

apt-get install ldp-sag sysadmin-guide

That'll get you both the HTML-ified/PS-ified and the text file.

On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Steve Dondley wrote:

>I'm a Linux beginner with Debian installed.  I'm looking for a beginner's
>guide to System Administration and I'm wondering if there might not be one
>particular to Debian.  If not, can someone point me in the direction of a
>good generic SysAdmin guide?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>

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Re: Fw: Re: Sid Newbie - some questions

2001-08-28 Thread John Galt

"Friendly" can often be harshing on someone in a helpful manner ratehr
than ignoring them.  I for one would much rather be called the worst name
in the universe and helped than be treated with kid gloves and continue to
have the problem.  I have noticed that there is a lot of harshing in the
debian-* lists, but most questions get answered quickly, while I have
heard in the redhat and mandrake lists, questions don't get good answers
but they don't flame either.  I guess you gotta pay the piper somehow, and
Debian's version is flame-resistance.

On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, David Nusinow wrote:

>On Monday 27 August 2001 02:48 pm, Ross Burton wrote:
>> You Debian guys are a lot more friendly than the RedHat/Mandrake
>> posse... :-)
>>
>
>Man... if we're more friendly then I'd really be scared of the
>RedHat/Mandrake people... have you checked out debian-devel? Scary!
>
>- David Nusinow
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>

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Re: Using a MTA

2001-08-28 Thread John Galt

You can't get around having one.  cron requires one, to name the first
example I can think of.  However, you really don't need much more than
exim in "local-only" configuration.

On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Steven Farrier wrote:

>I am using a Debian Linux computer which does not have its own domain, is
>behind a DSL connection and has a few users.
>
>Would a MTA be useful to me?
>
>
>

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Re: talk under X

2001-08-28 Thread John Galt

Try ktalkd if you don't mind a little KDE in the mix...  It's designed to
talk to $DISPLAY.

On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Christian Jaeger wrote:

>Hello
>
>How to setup [y]talk[d] so that one gets talk requests under X? Using
>gnome-terminal I just don't get the request message. I've tried xitalk
>(potato) but for some reason it doesn't work, and/or I don't understand
>it. (It's also quite ugly (sorry..)). Isn't there any WindowMaker app
>that does the same? Or any other elegant solution?
>
>chj
>
>
>

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Re: Network Collisons

2001-08-27 Thread John Galt

The crossover switch on the hub being in the wrong position...

On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Hereward Cooper wrote:

>Hi,
>What would cause the vast number of packet collisons between
>the 2 computers on my network, which are connected via a 8 port
>hub.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Hereward
>
>
>

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Re: segfault in vi

2001-08-27 Thread John Galt
On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, dman wrote:

>On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 01:40:50AM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
>| I was trying to remove the formatting mumbo-jumbo of a MS WordPad
>| document in vi, but it segfaulted - repeatedly.  Is there a
>| known reason for this?
>
>Uhh, vi is and copyrighted by AT&T and I don't think it is maintained
>anymore.  You don't have it.  Now which vi *clone* do you have
>installed?  nvi? elvis? vim?  I like vim the best -- it has a lot of
>really useful features and is very stable, not to mention extremely
>cross-platform.  Try 'antiword' though -- it is really cool at
>rendering Word docs as plain text.

Uhhh, no.  vi was written and copyrighted by UCB.  In fact, it was part of
2BSD, which also included termcap.

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/kirkmck.html


>HTH,
>-D
>
>
>

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Re: How do I UNHOLD a non-existent package?

2001-08-24 Thread John Galt
On 24 Aug 2001, Adam Warner wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I used
>
>echo " hold" | dpkg --set-selections

echo " purge" | dpkg --set-selections

>To put a package on hold but it turned out I used the wrong name. And it
>is sitting in the package database as held:
>
>dpkg --get-selections 
>
>Shows that the non-existent package is currently being held. Plus an
>apt-get install shows that the package exists in the database but has no
>installation candidate!
>
>It is possible that non-one in the world has ever answered how to unhold
>a non-existent package :-)
>
>When the unhold question has been asked in the past the advice was to
>install the package, but that is clearly not relevant in this case.
>
>Thanks for your help,
>Adam
>
>
>

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Re: libao0, libao2: conflict, cannot dist-upgrade

2001-08-24 Thread John Galt

dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libao2_0.8.0-1_i386.deb


On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Erik Steffl wrote:

>  there is a problem with libao2 trying to overwrite a library that
>libao0 also provides and no matter what I do it doesn't want to finish
>upgrading (or install/remove any packages), here's the error message I
>get when I do upgrade:
>
>jojda:/home/erik# apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
>... snipped normal messages...
>Building Dependency Tree... Done
>You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
>Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  vorbis-tools: Depends: libao2 (>= 0.8.0-1) but it is not installed
>E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
>
>  when I use -f it does not help:
>
>jojda:/home/erik# apt-get -f install
>Reading Package Lists... Done
>Building Dependency Tree... Done
>Correcting dependencies... Done
>The following extra packages will be installed:
>  libao2
>The following NEW packages will be installed:
>  libao2
>0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 127  not
>upgraded.
>1 packages not fully installed or removed.
>Need to get 0B/17.3kB of archives. After unpacking 135kB will be used.
>Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
>(Reading database ... 99926 files and directories currently installed.)
>Unpacking libao2 (from .../libao2_0.8.0-1_i386.deb) ...
>dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libao2_0.8.0-1_i386.deb
>(--unpack):
> trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/ao/libalsa.so', which is also in package
>libao0
>Errors were encountered while processing:
> /var/cache/apt/archives/libao2_0.8.0-1_i386.deb
>E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
>  when I try to install or remove packages with or without -f (the
>libao0/2 packages) it gives the same error. How to get out of this?
>
>  TIA
>
>   erik
>
>
>

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Re: apt-get

2001-08-23 Thread John Galt

debsums

On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, greg wrote:

>Would anyone tell me how I can verify my downloaded debs ?
>
>
>

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Re: Modprobe Issue

2001-08-23 Thread John Galt

In potato?  The modules layout changed from 2.2.X to 2.4.X.  You need
Bunk's modutils for potato.

On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Whenever I try to use modprobe with 3c59x.o or eepro100.o, I get a message
>saying it can't find /lib/modules/2.4.5/modules.dep. What do I need to
>install to correct this problem? [note: I am running a 2.4.5 kernel].
>
>-- Deven
>
>
>

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Re: 3COM and Such Cards .. The Saga Continues

2001-08-22 Thread John Galt

Do they conflict?  The other thing is don't insmod, use modprobe:
that way if there is a module it depends on, it'll find it and install it
first.  As for compiling a new kernel: if you want to do it, go ahead,
it'll solve your problem, kind of in the way a good sledgehammer takes
care of a fly--but if you're wielding the sledgehammer anyways...

On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I installed Debian and told it to include the EtherExpress or 3COM modules,
>but the "installation failed". When I try to insmod the EtherExpress module,
>I just get a lot of Unresolved Symbols. LSPCI tells me I DO have an
>EtherExpress from Intel, but ifconfig eth0 doensn't work (eth0 does not
>exist, and I can't MAKEDEV it.) Will compiling a new kernel solve my problems?
>
>-- Deven
>
>
>

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Re: Kernel Support for 3COM and Intel EtherExpress

2001-08-22 Thread John Galt

eepro100.o for the intel...  There is no eepro100 ISA.

On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi, does anyone know what I need to enable to use the EtherExpress Pro 100
>PCI NIC card from Intel, and the 3COM Fast EtherLink PCI 10/100 NIC card in
>my kernel config? All I can seem to find is ISA. I tried to install these
>from the Debian installer but it kept failing, maybe those were the ISA
>drivers.
>
>Can anyone help?
>Thanks,
>Deven G.
>
>
>

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Re: forgot root password on head- and keyboardless machine *blush*

2001-08-21 Thread John Galt

What keyboard fuse?  DIN isn't powered.  What keyboard controller?
DIN-style has the controller on the computer side: the only way you can
kill a DIN is to short data and ground, and that'll only kill it until the
short's removed.

On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote:

>
>Even if you HAD a keyboard that fits you would SURELY kill your machine by hot-
>plugging it in (smash the keyboard-controller's fuse, if it has one, or even
>blow the controller itself.)
>
>
>

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Re: libdb.so.3: Potato->Woody

2001-08-21 Thread John Galt

get the updated libdb2.  apt-get install libdb2.  This was supposed to be
fixed by now, I guess that the change will take some time to propagate.
dpkg/apt misprioritized things such that perl, which needed the new
version of libdb2, was getting upgraded before libdb2.

On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, P Kirk wrote:

>perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open shared
>objec
>t file: No such file or directory
>
>I've done a Google search and seen this come up a lot but can't find a fix.
>
>Is my system now broken beyond repair or is there a way to fix this?
>Manually compile glibc perhaps?
>--
>Patrick Kirk
>GSM: +44 7876 560 646
>ICQ: 42219699
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Bolet?n Informativo - Agosto 2001

2001-08-18 Thread John Galt

But Debian is God's Own Distribution :)

On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Steve Kowalik wrote:

>On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 01:15:03AM -0300, Daniel Toffetti uttered:
>> AFAIK, this has nothing to do neither with Debian, nor with God. May He
>> send them where they deserve...
>>
>Go directly to /dev/null, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
>
>Or something. :-))
>
>

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Re: libdb.so.3

2001-08-17 Thread John Galt

Actually the way I got the libdb mess confiused is that you need to
upgrade libdb2 as a dependency of libdb3.  Shows how much I needed
caffeine today...:/

On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Colin Watson wrote:

>On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 07:02:32PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open shared
>> >object file: No such file or directory
>[...]
>> >I looked of libdb.so.3 is in the /lib directory and there it was.
>>
>> You need libdb3.  the libdb.so.3 is actually a symlink, part of the libdb2
>> package.  When you get libdb3, it'll be replaced with the actual
>> libdb.so.3
>
>libdb.so.3 has nothing to do with libdb3. libdb.so.3 is library
>interface version 3 of the db (i.e. db1) library; libdb3 provides
>libdb3.so.3, which is library interface version 3 of the db3 library.
>They're very different as far as the dynamic linker is concerned, even
>if the whole situation is a bit confusing.
>
>He needs to upgrade libdb2 (where /lib/libdb.so.3 isn't a symlink,
>incidentally ...).
>
>

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Re: dselect vs. apt-get

2001-08-17 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Colin Watson wrote:

>On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 07:20:03PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, tim wrote:
>> >my question is due dependencies, are they resolved the same way, either
>> >if you use apt-get or dselect? or are there any differences. I have
>> >recently  made the experience that dselect worked on a specifig update
>> >(cdroast) while apt-get gave my dependency problems...
>>
>> No.  For dselect, Suggests are effectively Depends, while for apt,
>> Suggests are effectively ignored.
>
>Wibble? Surely you mean Recommends, not Suggests. (dselect will warn you
>about Suggests but not force you into using them.)

I use apt, so lost track of the difference :)

>

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Re: dselect vs. apt-get

2001-08-16 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, tim wrote:

>hello
>
>well I am sorry if this has discussed to death, I didnt find a
>comparison.
>
>I always thought dselect/apt-get are frontend for dpkg.
>dselect uses ncurses, apt-get is only command line. dselect offers a
>manual dependency resolving while apt-get (mainly) just downloads the
>file and calls dpkg...

aptitude and deity are both curses (or X) frontends for apt.

>my question is due dependencies, are they resolved the same way, either
>if you use apt-get or dselect? or are there any differences. I have
>recently  made the experience that dselect worked on a specifig update
>(cdroast) while apt-get gave my dependency problems...

No.  For dselect, Suggests are effectively Depends, while for apt,
Suggests are effectively ignored.

>Is the difference that dselect calls database, once you use it, while
>apt-get first calls dpkg and than dpkg calls the database about
>dependencies?
>
>
>thanks!
>
>
>

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Re: woody or sid

2001-08-16 Thread John Galt

NEVER use a machine to both serve and audit.  Never use a machine to both
serve and do ANYTHING.  Say you nmap with the wrong arguments and get the
IP dropped into some upstream's deny list.  How are you going to serve
pages from a dead IP?  BTW, they make nmap for Wintendo (Fyodor's words)
nowadays...

On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>It's kind of neccesary that my system is stable cause it is running a
>website.
>But my whole problem started when I wanted to install the unstable nmap
>cause I wanted the newest as possible. I'm now thinking of installing sid
>on my second pc (now running windows cause I'm playing Tombraider) so I can
>run the newest nmap on that one.
>
>
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Should I upgrade to woody or sid from potato?
>>>
>>> Please give me your opinion.
>>
>> That completely depends on your needs. Are you suffering because you're
>> missing the bleeding edge features or software? Do you have the time to
>> work on the problems there'll be that haven't yet been ironed out? Is
>> it critical that your system be stable?
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> --
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Re: picture browser for debian

2001-08-16 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Sean Morgan wrote:

>I don't know if XV is still packaged anymore (I think someone threw a
>hissy over liscensing), but it'll be a great deal more agile than gqview
>on old hardware.  Just start it up and hit control-v for the file
>browser.

It is, in non-free. BTW, Left Mouse Button works just as well as ctl-V...

>On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:38:51 +0200
>Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 23:33:22 PDT, "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" writes:
>>
>> >> Anyone knows of a good picture browser for Linux (preferrably
>> >>  .deb´ianized, of course, but I can live with compiling myself)?
>>
>> >there are gobs and gobs of them.  GNOME has some, KDE has some, plain GTK+ 
>> >and
>> >QT.  Try Multimedia->Graphics->Viewers on freshmeat.  All of the good ones 
>> >are
>> >packaged.
>>
>> Thanks, someone mentioned GQview in a private reply, which does exactly
>>  what I need (and it doesn´t depend on gnome/kde/ for which my box is
>>  far too slow).
>>
>> As for browsing freshmeat per category, I´ve never done that yet, I
>>  always searched. But I should´ve thought of that myself >  forehead *clasp*>.
>>
>> cheers,
>> &rw
>> --
>> -- "All software sucks. Everybody is considered a jerk by somebody.
>> -- The sun rises, the sun sets, the Sun crashes, lusers are LARTed,
>> -- BOFHs get drunk. It is the way of things." -- Steve Conley, ASR
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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Re: libdb.so.3

2001-08-16 Thread John Galt

You need libdb3.  the libdb.so.3 is actually a symlink, part of the libdb2
package.  When you get libdb3, it'll be replaced with the actual
libdb.so.3

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>First I tried to install nmap_2.54.28.BETA-1_i386.deb
>
>It said needs >=libc6_2.2.3-1
>
>So I got libc6_2.2.3-9_i386.deb and installed it.
>
>Then the problem turned up!
>When I tried nmap again it got this:
>
>(Reading database ... 10359 files and directories currently installed.)
>Preparing to replace nmap 2.54.28.BETA-1 (using nmap_2.54.28.BETA-
>1_i386.deb) ...
>Unpacking replacement nmap ...
>Setting up nmap (2.54.28.BETA-1) ...
>perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open shared
>object file: No such file or directory
>dpkg: error processing nmap (--install):
> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
>Errors were encoutered while processing:
> nmap
>
>I looked of libdb.so.3 is in the /lib directory and there it was.
>
>Can someone please help me?
>
>
>

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Re: How to Bastille a Debian System?

2001-08-16 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Lance Peterson wrote:

>Since the Bastille project only supports RedHat and Mandrake (so says
>their web site), how would I go about hardening my Debian System in the
>same way that Bastille does for the other distros?

Apt-get install task-harden (woody and sid)

>Maybe if I knew what got hardened, I could harden it myself (now get
>your minds out of the gutter here - I know that sounds bad!!)
>
>Lance Peterson
>
>__
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>
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Re: ppp 2.4

2001-08-15 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Eric Whitestone wrote:

>Ok, this may be a dumb question. Is there a ppp-2.4 debian package? I
>upgraded to kernel 2.4.8 and someone told me i need ppp 2.4. I checked at

I assume that this is potato using the Bunk packages?  Sid's ppp is 2.4.1.

>debian.com for ppp packages, and the latest one i saw there was ppp
^^^
There's one of your problems.  it's debian.org :)  Seriously, I'm thinking
you need to go ahead and get the ppp and it's dependencies out of sid.

>2.3.11-1.4. If there is a ppp 2.4, does anyone know where to get it?



>Thanks!
>

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Re: Netscape as root, sndconfig

2001-08-15 Thread John Galt

Well, you failed to follow my expressed wishes, but I certainly will
follow yours...  followups to list only...

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote:

>On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 02:50:26PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
>
>
>> Telnet is a security
>> hazard because everything goes over in the clear, making the session
>> snoopable and vulnerable to password sniffing programs like dsniff.  If
>> you haven't seen firsthand how many passwords you can harvest on the
>> average network, you have no business slamming telnet (pop3 is
>> actually the biggest culprit: it tends to resend passwords on a periodic
>> basis).
>
>So you admit telnet is a security hazard, then resort to an ad hominem
>attack to defend it?

Ad HOMinem?  Who did I attack?  I was just using it as an example of the
difference between a reasoned argument and one based on faith.

>For your information, I've been a network engineer for some 5 years
>now.  I have seen how much information can be sniffed since as the
>engineer I was usually the guy with the sniffer.  Anything that passes
>information in the clear (telnet, ftp, pop3, imap, snmp ...) is a
>security risk.  I think I'm quite qualified to "slam" telnet, thank
>you.

Ahh, you took my rant as directed at yourself.  Well, I really didn't mean
to slam you, but now that you mention it...

>If you don't think "." in your PATH is a security risk, then you seem
>to know something that most UNIX people do not.

No, I think it is.  I also think that it violates POLS for DOS->Unix
users.

>To me, the most annoying thing about this thread is that if the
>original poster could READ he'd haver quickly found out how to run
>netscape as root, and wouldn't have had to trouble the list at all.

Well, how often is the proper answer "RTFM" around here?  Perhaps there
ought to be an RTFM bot on this list that replies to all messages with a
prettified version of RTFM...  Failing that time, unhelpful answers are
doing nobody any good.

>

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Re: Netscape as root, sndconfig

2001-08-15 Thread John Galt

Because Stevenson failed to attribute, I can't figure out who >> > > > is,
but that person wasn't being helpful.  A one line answer is appropriate
sometimes, when that one line actually aids the person in question to do
what they asked.  Otherwise, they're just wasting breath.  However, I too
am getting tired of doctrinaire things like the . in $PATH, telnet
vulnerabilities and so forth being quoted as the Holy Gospel, and like the
Holy Gospel, supposed to be accepted on faith alone.  Telnet is a security
hazard because everything goes over in the clear, making the session
snoopable and vulnerable to password sniffing programs like dsniff.  If
you haven't seen firsthand how many passwords you can harvest on the
average network, you have no business slamming telnet (pop3 is
actually the biggest culprit: it tends to resend passwords on a periodic
basis).

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote:

>On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 08:25:07AM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote:
>> > > > > I recently installed Netscape Communicator,
>> > > > > which works great, except that I can't run it
>> > > > > as root due to "security reasons". Does anyone
>> > > > > know how I can get around this?
>> > > >
>> > > > Don't run it as root.
>> >
>> > hmmm, not the most useful answer I have ever seen,
>> > edit the file /etc/netscape4/config and either uncomment
>> > the line which says ALLOW_ROOT=yes or add it to
>> > the config file.
>> >
>> > Again:  don't run it as root.
>>
>> Again, he asked *how* to do it. He didn't ask for people's
>> opinions on whether or not he should. It's his business if
>> he's runs it as root. It's his system.
>
>Ah, I see we will now look forward to posts from you condemning people
>who suggest "kernel-package" when asked "why didn't my kernel compile
>work; I used 'make bzlilo'", posts which point out that including "."
>in your PATH is a bad idea, posts which conclude telnet is a security
>risk ...
>
>

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Re: How to answer

2001-08-15 Thread John Galt

Nobody ever did the reverse, when I set my mail-copies-to to my email, so
why should the courtesy be one-sided?  I guess I'll reset the header, but
I doubt it'll do any good.

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Colin Watson wrote:

>On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:35:44AM +0200, Joerg Johannes wrote:
>> Paul Scott wrote:
>> > Using Mozilla I hit Reply then I change the "To:" field to
>> > debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> > and go about editing the message.  (Occaasionially I forget and the
>> > reply goes to the original poster and not to the group).
>>
>> I tend to reply to the list, and to the original poster. I have two
>> email-adreses, one only for the list, and one (Which I set as Reply-To:)
>> for private mail. If, for some reason, I cannot look throught the list,
>> I still have the copy that comes directly to me.
>
>Many people object to being cc'ed (and so having to remember whether
>they've replied to one copy of the message when they've encountered the
>other one). If there's a Mail-Followup-To: header or a 'Mail-Copies-To:
>nobody', it's a good idea to honour it.
>
>

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Re: OT -- Microsoft's Smart Tags

2001-08-15 Thread John Galt
rt Tags are "opt-out". This means the
>tags are inserted unless you (the webmaster or the user) indicate
>that you do not want them. Opt-Out is the preferred method of
>removal for many advertisers because they understand that most
>people will not bother to remove themselves from the list. Opt-in
>is the preferred method of most consumers because then they
>receive only what they have requested.
>
>Webmasters can keep smart tags from working on their site by
>including a special "opt-out" metatag in the header of each and
>every page. I highly recommend that all webmasters include this
>tag to prevent smart tags from operating.
>
>   
>
>As soon as Smart Tags appeared in a beta release of Windows XP,
>the furor began. It was awesome to see. Microsoft was hit from
>all sides by just about everyone, because their intentions were
>so transparent and so blatantly monopolistic that even the most
>conservative could see what they were up to. The dangers caused a
>flood of protests to be received by the giant company, so many
>that Microsoft was forced to remove the feature from their
>products.
>
>"As a result of smart tags in beta versions of Windows XP and IE,
>we received lots of feedback, and have realized that there is a
>need to better balance the user experience with the legitimate
>concerns of content providers and web sites," Microsoft said in a
>statement on June 28th, 2001.
>
>Keep an eye on Microsoft, however, because they also added,
>"Microsoft remains committed to this type of technology, and will
>work closely with content providers and partners in the industry
>in the coming months to further refine how it can be used."
>
>
>Richard Lowe Jr. is the webmaster of Internet Tips And
>Secrets at http://www.internet-tips.net - Visit our website any
>time to read over 1,000 complete FREE articles about how to
>improve your internet profits, enjoyment and knowledge.
>
>
>To subscribe to this newsletter, please go to
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>
>- End forwarded message -
>
>i include the author's site info and the newsletter info in case
>anyone a) wants to check it out or b) complain at them for
>having someone such as me, for a subscriber. :)
>
>

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Re: META QUESTION: how to read a bulk list (and stay happy :-)

2001-08-14 Thread John Galt

Because It fits with my preferences more.  You see, contrary to some
people around here, I LIKE to recieve copies of listmail when I'm the
intended recipient.  The resent-from recipie puts the personal copy in my
inbox, where it recieves relatively immediate attention, and yet still
keeps the flow of the list folder intact.  Also the reason I top post:
almost all MUAs page through messages in their original order, so the
newest stuff goes on top and you don't have to page through all of the old
junk to find out what's important.

What a bargain: you asked for nothing, yet you got my whole two cents
worth :)

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Rich Puhek wrote:

>John Galt wrote:
>>
>> .procmailrc recipie:
>>
>> :0:
>> * ^Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> debian-user
>>
>> About 99.9995% effective.
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Gaelle T. Morin wrote:
>>
>
>Um, how about using: "X-Mailing-List: "
>instead of the Resent-From? I believe that's what that header is
>intended for. Of course, not every mailing list has that feature, but
>for those that do, you're going to have better luck than with
>Resent-From:, To:, CC:, and similar headers.
>
>Personally, I'm stuck with an NT box at work, so I end up using Netscape
>for email reading. It's a PITA, but better than anything else I've found
>(Eudora bugs me for some reason, The Bat! costs money, and don't even
>talk to me about Outlook). I parse all mailing lists (Some of which are
>even more active than deb-user!) into seperate folders. Then, I can scan
>through the folders quickly, either by date or by thread. Some things
>are handy in curses-based environments, but a quick scroll bar in
>Windows (or, X, I suppose) works pretty well for scanning mailing lists,
>expecially once you get the feel for the list.
>
>
>--Rich
>
>

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FBI CIA NSA IRS ATF BATF DOD WACO RUBY RIDGE OKC OKLAHOMA CITY MILITIA
GUN HANDGUN MILGOV ASSAULT RIFLE TERRORISM BOMB DRUG HORIUCHI KORESH
DAVIDIAN KAHL POSSE COMITATUS RANDY WEAVER VICKIE WEAVER SPECIAL
FORCES LINDA THOMPSON SPECIAL OPERATIONS GROUP SOG SOF DELTA FORCE
CONSTITUTION BILL OF RIGHTS WHITEWATER POM PARK ON METER ARKANSIDE
IRAN CONTRAS OLIVER NORTH VINCE FOSTER PROMIS MOSSAD NASA MI5 ONI CID
AK47 M16 C4 MALCOLM X REVOLUTION CHEROKEE HILLARY BILL CLINTON GORE
GEORGE BUSH WACKENHUT TERRORIST TASK FORCE 160 SPECIAL OPS 12TH GROUP
5TH GROUP SF

You hear those, Echelon?  Any of the words should be enough to "flag" your
communication by Echelon--let's see how big their storage capacity REALLY
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Re: META QUESTION: how to read a bulk list (and stay happy :-)

2001-08-14 Thread John Galt

.procmailrc recipie:

:0:
* ^Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
debian-user

About 99.9995% effective.

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Gaelle T. Morin wrote:

>Well,
>I broke my own promise to be a lurker of this list.
>However, I am just wondering on how do others read this mega list.
>Is that: "d"(elete), "d", "d", and "" once in awhile?
>OR, procmailing certain paterns...
>OR, ...
>
>Looking forward for insights...
>
>--
>-- Gaelle T. Morin -- http://www.nawala.net/~gtm 
>-- Sont les mots qui vont tres bien ensemble - Michelle - 1965 --
>
>
>
>

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Re: Fwd: Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #1132

2001-08-14 Thread John Galt


Bring it on, masochist.  I've CC'd your upstream just so everyone's on the
same page.  You subscribed to the list, you sent a confirmation email, now
you threaten because it sends you stuff.  WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?!  I beg of
optushome to redirect all mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to /dev/null
and save us all problems.

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Michael Hambe wrote:

>Me again,
>
>I use manners the first time I ask.
>
>I use manners the second time I ask.
>
>Not the third,
>
>thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>>MBOX-Line: From
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tue
>>Aug 14 09:05:45 2001
>>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:40:08 +0530
>>From: harsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Michael Hambe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>Subject: Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #1132
>>Reply-To: harsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>hi,
>>
>>On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 09:49:00PM +1000, Michael Hambe wrote:
>>>  REMOVE ME FROM YOUR LIST.
>>>
>>>  STOP SENDING ME SHIT!
>>
>>go to http://lists.debian.org and you get details as how to unsubscribe.
>>by the way looks like nobody gave you some lessons in manners. ask a
>>preschooler for help.
>>
>>harsha
>>
>>--
>>Chaos is found in the greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.
>>It always defeats order for it is better organized.
>>
>>
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>>with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: am i being wormed? aaugh!

2001-08-14 Thread John Galt

mine are all 403's now.  I made a dummy file /var/www/default.ida with
permissions of 700 owned by root.  I had a theory a while ago that the CR
actually resends all 202's, but experience has proven me wrong: CR sends
the same amount regardless of whether or not if can find default.ida.  The
dummy file is mostly to prevent the skript kiddies that follow up on the
CR destruction from bothering me twice.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, will trillich wrote:

>On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 07:16:10AM -0500, ktb wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 05:56:30AM -0500, will trillich wrote:
>> 
>> > worse, when i turned on normal text-format logging, i saw this:
>> > www.worm.com Accept: */* 64.130.248.101 - - [03/Aug/2001:16:11:29 -0500] 
>> > "GET 
>> > /default.ida?%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a
>> >  HTTP/1.0" 200 1622 "-" "-"
>> > www.worm.com Accept: */* 194.78.202.75 - - [03/Aug/2001:16:12:38 -0500] 
>> > "GET 
>> > /default.ida?%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a
>> >  HTTP/1.0" 200 1622 "-" "-"
>>
>> That's red worm all right.
>> I've got 91 of these buggers so far.  Most hits I've had in my logs for
>> a while:)  What is strange about yours is they are returning 200, all
>> mine return 404.
>
>the hits i track in postgresql show as 404, but the ones in the
>plaintext logfile are indeed 200. now THAT's purty darn odd.
>(maybe i messed with my apache config to just do a quick 'okay
>fine whatever' when i sees a request for /default.ida?... i
>forget, having slept since then...)
>
>

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Re: C man pages: where?

2001-08-14 Thread John Galt

manpages-dev

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, DvB wrote:

>Does anyone know what package the C function man pages (... man strcmp) are in?
>
>I went to look at the man page for a C function and realized that I don't have 
>any of them installed on my woody system. I installed gcc-doc and just got 
>some info pages. I can't seem to find the right package on packages.debian.org 
>either.
>
>
>
>

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Re: Cable Modem/NIC cards

2001-08-14 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, T.Phan wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>  Is there a way to soft reset the cable modem and the NIC on
>  a Debian/Linux box?
>
>  The AT&T Cable Modem some time loses connection, sometime it
>  resets itself.  Afterward, the Debian box will no longer be
>  able to establish the connection until the debian box and
>  the cable modem are shutdown and reboot.

You shouldn't have to reboot Debian, you should be able to do all
necessary operations by ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0.

>  Any suggestion on how to avoid the shutdown/reboot ? Thank
>  in advance!
>
>---
>tcp
>
>
>

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Re: dist-upgrade from stable to testing

2001-08-14 Thread John Galt

mkdir /etc/exim then rerun apt-get dist-upgrade...  You won't have to
re-download the 166M, BTW.

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Phil Reardon wrote:

>After apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade to testing, I got a successful
>download of 166 MB. But during the install/config, I saw this message:
>
>mv: cannot create regjular file '/etc/exim/exim.conf' ;  No such file or
>directory.
>
>dpkg: error processing /var/cach/apt/archives/exim_3.31-1_i386.deb
>(--unpack); subprocess pre-installaation script returned error exit status 1
> Starting MTA exim
>
>This was followed by several lines that look okay and then by
>
>Errors were encountered while processing:
>/var/cache/apt/archives/exim_3.31-1_i386.deb
>E: Subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
>This was followed by my root prompt.  I checked, and exim.conf is directly
>under /etc, and I have no exim directory under /etc, which I presume was the
>problem.  My question is , what should I do next?  Do I have to repeat the
>dist-upgrade, or even do something worse?  The box I did this on is waiting
>for your gracious help!
>
>
>

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Re: shred

2001-08-14 Thread John Galt

man shred.  It's a secure rm, overwriting with zeros and other stuff...

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, harsha wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>There is this option of shreding of a file in KDE What exactly does it do?
>The progress bar shows making 35 passes if I delete about 150k file.
>
>regards
>harsha
>
>
>
>

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Re: gnome is gone!

2001-08-13 Thread John Galt

The library you need is libdb3.  After you get libdb3 installed, I'd say
your next target is perl.  potato->woody hangs up nowadays on the libdb3
transition, making perl 5.6 a PITA, but everything that uses perl is moved
to perl 5.6.  I'm thinking you'll be able to go along nicely with libdb3.

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>i recently tried (and so far failed) to install printtool... and in the
>process i seemed to have wiped out gnome... here's what happened:
>i'm running 2.2r3 so i had to upgrade a lot of libraries, ect. to get to the
>point where i had all the nessicary files to dpkg printtool... (one file that
>printtool required would require 2 or 3 more files of its own) and somewhere
>between installing some new c libraries and lpr-ppd i seem to have removed
>some important gnome packages. I tried to dselect the packages to reinstall
>but it keeps getting hung up by the fact that i don't have this library that
>it needs: 'libdb.so.3' i've searched the package directory for it as well as
>'libdb.so' and gotten nothing... libdb returns like 700 results and i can't
>browse all of those for something resembling that library. so here's what i
>need to know:
>1. where do i get that library
>
>2. since i've got lines in .xinitrc to start gmc and the toolbar and neither
>one of them start, what's the most likely file that would've gotten
>uninstalled by dselect while installing some c libraries and printtool (and
>its reqired files)?
>
>well, i guess that last one isn't essential, but i'm really starting to get
>bothered by this printer that linuxdoc.org says will work 'perfectly' but
>won't even do an
>'lptest > /dev/usb/lp0' ... did that letter i sent a/b it earlier make it
>through my slow connection?
>
>anyway, i'm almost as confused as i was when i first started installing this
>crazy OS, so any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
>
>
>

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Re: Package Request

2001-08-13 Thread John Galt

File a bug with

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

pseudo-package wnpp.


On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Brad Rhodes wrote:

>To whom could I make a request for a new Debian package?
>
>
>
>

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Re: Small Debian Install?

2001-08-12 Thread John Galt

Probably WRT console mode, don't even try X.

On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi, I'm looking into buying a 386 laptop with 4 mb RAM, and a 160mb HDD. Will
>I be able to install Debian on this? How about X windows?
>
>Thanks,
>Deven
>
>
>

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Re: path to image magick?

2001-08-12 Thread John Galt

one of three things:

whereis convert
locate convert
find / -name convert

On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Jason Truman wrote:

>Hello everyone, I'm new to the list and I'm starting off with a quick
>question.
>
>My web host (www.f2s.com) runs Debian Linux as their main operating system.
>It is my understanding that image magick is included as one of the graphics
>packages.  I'd like to be able to use image magick because I have a photo
>gallery on my site which utilizes thumbnails.  I figure I could use the
>"convert" utility within image magick to do some automatic thumbnail
>generation.  My problem is, I have no clue as to what the path to image
>magick is...  I'm assuming there is a default path, and I was wondering if
>anyone could enlighten me as to what that default path might be?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help/advice that can be offered. :)
>
>- Jason Truman
>Creator/Webmaster of http://www.dusterhq.f2s.com
>
>_
>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
>
>
>

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Re: Linux on Sony PlayStation 2

2001-08-09 Thread John Galt
On 10 Aug 2001, Marshal Wong wrote:

>John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Rainer Keller wrote:
>>
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >first off, sorry, if this post is completely wrong on this mailing
>> >list
>> >
>> >At LinuxTag 2001 in Stuttgart, Germany, there was a Sony PlayStation 2
>> >with Debian Linux shown at the Debian booth.
>> >Unfortunately, I was at the LinuxTag, but not the booth.
>>
>> Prolly Debian-sh.  It's not ready for primetime yet, but I'm sure there's
>> a mailinglist to look in on and probably some test binaries...
>>
>> >Now, I'd like to know, what it needs to get Linux running on such a
>> >machine, what kind of hardware is needed, and whether it's available in
>> >Germany, anyway ,-]]
>>
>> http://www.m17n.org/linux-sh/debian/
>>
>
>Actually, that's for the SEGA DreamCast's SuperH processor.  I'm
>pretty sure that the PS2 doesn't run a SuperH, although the chips were
>fabricated by Hitachi.

Okay, mips.  So I don't know my game consoles too well.  There's a
debian-mips list and page as well...

>Perhaps a more relevant link, but a bit US centered.
>
>http://www.xrhino.com/
>
>>
>> >Any advice or help would be appreciated.
>> >
>> >Greetings,
>> >raY
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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>> application of High Explosives.
>>
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Re: FW: Careful. This is for information only.

2001-08-09 Thread John Galt
On 8 Aug 2001, John Hasler wrote:

>Dave Sherohman writes:
>> According to the Microsoft EULA, they could put code into the startup
>> routines of any of their software that causes it to break into the
>> Pentagon's computers, search out the nuclear launch codes, and blow up
>> the planet while displaying the splash screen and it wouldn't be
>> Microsoft's fault when the bombs fell.
>
>The EULA only protects Microsoft against suits brought by people who have
>agreed to it for damage done to them by software licensed to them under it.

So theoretically, the NIPC could file a US v Microsoft suit because of
CodeRed?  Looks like some congresscritters are going to get a little mail
tonight.


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Re: Linux on Sony PlayStation 2

2001-08-09 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Rainer Keller wrote:

>Hello,
>
>first off, sorry, if this post is completely wrong on this mailing
>list
>
>At LinuxTag 2001 in Stuttgart, Germany, there was a Sony PlayStation 2
>with Debian Linux shown at the Debian booth.
>Unfortunately, I was at the LinuxTag, but not the booth.

Prolly Debian-sh.  It's not ready for primetime yet, but I'm sure there's
a mailinglist to look in on and probably some test binaries...

>Now, I'd like to know, what it needs to get Linux running on such a
>machine, what kind of hardware is needed, and whether it's available in
>Germany, anyway ,-]]

http://www.m17n.org/linux-sh/debian/


>Any advice or help would be appreciated.
>
>Greetings,
>raY
>
>
>

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Re: FW: Careful. This is for information only.

2001-08-07 Thread John Galt
On 7 Aug 2001, John Hasler wrote:

>Kirk Strauser writes:
>> OK, it's a stretch to compare laws concerning physical real-world assault
>> to the virtual assault committed by these infected servers, but could at
>> least a little bit of the principle apply?
>
>Possibly.  Do you want to be the test case?  From recent events it appears
>that you could expect to be out on $50,000 bail after three or four weeks.


Naaaw, Kirk doesn't have a Foreign Power to release Americans as a
bargaining chip

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Re: Fwd: Re: please read: very odd network traffic

2001-08-07 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, William Leese wrote:

>On Tuesday 07 August 2001 18:59, Dave Sherohman wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 06:53:38PM +0200, William Leese wrote:
>> > there's more though. but again i'm not sure.. for the first time i've
>> > seen a few odd requests being logged in boa, just a small snippet:
>> >
>> >
>> > [07/Aug/2001:06:26:03 +] request from 195.38.105.70 "GET
>> > /default.ida?
>> >
>> > X
>> >
>> > X
>> >
>> > XX%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%
>> >u780 1%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a
>> > HTTP/1.0" ("/var/www/default.ida"): document open: No such file or
>> > directory
>>
>> Code Red Mk. II.  See any of the recent Code Red threads or incidents.org
>> for more information.
>
>Thanks to those who replied.
>
>This is a little starteling.  Although the meter rarely goes above 2.6K it's
>constant. Not something I'd fear bring the internet to it's knees but it's
>nothing i've seen before on my home connection.

Multiply it out by 100 threads per CR worm and the thousands of CR
carriers now.  It WILL probably bring the Internet to its knees if some
IIS admins don't start pulling their heads out.

>
>

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Re: code red goes on

2001-08-06 Thread John Galt
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Chris Niekel wrote:

>On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 07:02:35PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
>> [...]
>> CodeRed2.  Nastier: it also copies cmd.exe to root.exe, and installs a
>> pseudo-r00tkit.  If the IIS admins didn't learn the first time, they got
>> screwed hardcore the second.  Not even a reacharound this time.
>
>I get hit every 2 minutes. And apparently lots of computers are now
>advertising that they can be remotely controlled. Wouldn't it be nice if
>there were some 'hack' to send to such a server so that it gets fixed.
>I've got a list of hundreds of ip's of IIS-servers almost begging for an
>antidote!

Telnet to port 80 of the affected server.  You'll get a rootshell, add the
file C:\noworm.  This will (hopefully, I'm using CR's fix on CR2's
rootshell) prevent it from broadcasting all the junk.

>My stats for today (20 hours): 601 CodeRed2's, 8 CodeRed1's. With my
>cablemodem it looks like my whole country is infected. Although it's
>only 268 unique ip's. CodeRed2 attempts to spread a lot more than 1.

CR2 is actually seeming to have a twist in it's IP picker that weights it
to the subnets where cable/dsl users are the rule.

>Well, better start ignoring the output.
>
>Greetings,
>Chris Niekel
>
>

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Re: am i being wormed? aaugh!

2001-08-05 Thread John Galt

No, you may not panic.  It's an IIS exploit.  Code Red to be precise.

On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, will trillich wrote:

>i get this http request a couple of times every hour via my own
>home-grown DBIlog.pm (mod-perl/apache) httpd logger:
>
>at   | 2001-07-19 10:19:18-05
>client   | 216.82.8.136
>method   | GET
>server   | www.serensoft.com
>url  |
>/default.ida?%u9090%u6858%ucbd3
>   [and that's truncated!]
>who  |
>referer  | ?
>browser  | ?
>status   | 404
>bytes| 1686
>wall | 1
>cpuuser  | 0
>cpusys   | 0
>cpucuser | 0.47
>cpucsys  | 0.02
>
>> select at,client from hits where url like '%%';
>   at   | client
>+-
> 2001-07-19 10:19:18-05 | 216.82.8.136
> 2001-07-19 11:08:14-05 | 206.135.192.133
> 2001-07-19 12:02:27-05 | 202.142.100.64
> 2001-07-19 12:10:14-05 | 203.231.125.121
> 2001-07-19 12:13:29-05 | 169.237.108.208
> 2001-07-19 13:26:02-05 | 203.193.49.130
> 2001-07-19 13:50:50-05 | 158.103.185.221
> 2001-07-19 14:03:21-05 | 213.201.12.36
> 2001-07-19 14:14:51-05 | 211.254.187.41
> 2001-07-19 15:19:28-05 | 24.166.65.184
> 2001-07-19 15:42:57-05 | 202.232.40.70
> 2001-07-19 15:50:15-05 | 216.76.214.121
> 2001-07-19 16:01:38-05 | 209.222.212.42
> 2001-07-19 16:45:44-05 | 194.125.139.18
> 2001-07-19 16:47:23-05 | 141.154.114.178
> 2001-07-19 17:09:30-05 | 216.32.193.157
> 2001-07-19 17:27:37-05 | 65.193.43.221
> 2001-07-19 17:52:35-05 | 195.221.249.5
> 2001-08-01 08:40:31-05 | 211.21.58.10
> 2001-08-01 10:01:30-05 | 208.178.183.141
> 2001-08-01 11:31:49-05 | 66.68.109.22
> 2001-08-01 12:31:11-05 | 66.43.172.146
> 2001-08-01 12:44:27-05 | 209.104.64.140
> 2001-08-01 13:16:47-05 | 64.120.74.50
> 2001-08-02 03:46:11-05 | 203.49.23.2
> 2001-08-02 04:35:34-05 | 210.109.151.207
> 2001-08-02 05:23:56-05 | 210.164.65.122
> 2001-08-02 07:08:54-05 | 61.155.127.195
> 2001-08-02 07:14:42-05 | 134.28.70.208
> 2001-08-02 07:24:48-05 | 207.31.238.50
> 2001-08-02 07:47:30-05 | 211.135.200.187
> 2001-08-02 08:28:11-05 | 63.225.201.1
> 2001-08-02 09:33:17-05 | 210.83.155.248
> 2001-08-02 09:52:20-05 | 212.217.71.165
> 2001-08-02 12:16:00-05 | 61.144.182.73
> 2001-08-02 12:25:21-05 | 211.172.180.195
> 2001-08-02 13:06:59-05 | 209.210.64.76
> 2001-08-02 14:35:14-05 | 203.232.107.127
> 2001-08-02 16:37:43-05 | 24.9.187.96
> 2001-08-02 19:06:12-05 | 217.96.22.20
> 2001-08-02 20:12:17-05 | 148.208.155.14
> 2001-08-02 21:05:09-05 | 24.147.112.62
> 2001-08-02 23:11:56-05 | 211.47.137.110
> 2001-08-02 23:27:56-05 | 61.141.218.15
> 2001-08-03 00:10:09-05 | 217.109.194.178
> 2001-08-03 00:31:03-05 | 200.11.199.228
> 2001-08-03 00:38:22-05 | 207.86.78.211
> 2001-08-03 01:46:33-05 | 213.120.117.180
> 2001-08-03 03:31:45-05 | 203.251.198.98
> 2001-08-03 03:34:30-05 | 24.182.254.161
> 2001-08-03 03:51:04-05 | 209.15.189.33
> 2001-08-03 04:53:51-05 | 209.235.17.88
> 2001-08-03 05:41:50-05 | 212.150.116.13
> 2001-08-03 06:13:29-05 | 128.103.187.106
> 2001-08-03 07:11:39-05 | 24.229.76.131
> 2001-08-03 08:04:41-05 | 24.3.237.233
> 2001-08-03 08:07:00-05 | 210.148.224.4
> 2001-08-03 08:52:11-05 | 211.18.254.226
> 2001-08-03 10:08:10-05 | 211.75.138.244
> 2001-08-03 11:04:40-05 | 198.174.90.131
> 2001-08-03 12:31:41-05 | 211.189.140.229
> 2001-08-03 12:38:40-05 | 24.7.114.249
>(62 rows)
>
>worse, when i turned on normal text-format logging, i saw this:
>www.worm.com Accept: */* 64.130.248.101 - - [03/Aug/2001:16:11:29 -0500] "GET 
>/default.ida?%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a
> HTTP/1.0" 200 1622 "-" "-"
>www.worm.com Accept: */* 194.78.202.75 - - [03/Aug/2001:16:12:38 -0500] "GET 
>/default.ida?%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a
> HTTP/1.0" 200 1622 "-" "-"
>
>this is with a custom log format of
>LogFormat "%{Host}i %h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" 
>\"%{User-Agent}i\"" virtual
>
>so i'm getting "Host: www.worm.com" as an incoming header (which,
>trust me, is NOT a domain pointing to my server).
>
>comments? can i panic now?
>
>

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RE: code red goes on

2001-08-05 Thread John Galt
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Ian Perry wrote:

>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Alan Shutko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:18 PM
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: code red goes on
>>
>>
>> "Karsten M. Self"  writes:
>>
>> > Anyone noting trends between 7/20 and 8/2?  I've got 30 v. 49,
>> > respectively.  Looks like this is actually the bigger attack.
>>
>> http://www.incidents.org says that we've already gotten more infected
>> machines than July 20th, although probes seem to have leveled off.
>>
>> I've heard that this is a slight change on the original code red which
>> seeds the RNG used to pick hosts to try, and it's thus hitting lots of
>> hosts which weren't in the first round.
>>
>
>There has definately been a change in the original form of the attacks from
># GET /default.ida?N -snip- NN%u9090% -snip- 0%u00=a  HTTP/1.0

normal CodeRed

>to
># GET /default.ida?X -snip- XX%u9090% -snip- 0%u00=a  HTTP/1.0

CodeRed2.  Nastier: it also copies cmd.exe to root.exe, and installs a
pseudo-r00tkit.  If the IIS admins didn't learn the first time, they got
screwed hardcore the second.  Not even a reacharound this time.

>The second packet is also much shorter (with less X's), although the tail is
>the same.
>
>The increase in traffic over the last few days has been marked.
>
>Sept  -0 hits
>1 Aug  -   3 hits  0.1 per hr
>2 Aug -22 hits 0.9/hr
>3 Aug -33 Hits 1.4/hr
>4 Aug -41 Hits 1.7/hr
>5 Aug -167 Hits6.9/hr
>6 Aug -79 Hits 10.0/hr (only 8 hrs of data)
>
>I can see this is going to be a real problem in the upcoming weeks.
>
>I have noticed on the end of each access in the log, Apache gives "404 205"
>404 I guess means page not found, but on two occassions it looks like
>it gave a "200 - ".  Strange.  I thought a valid access was 200.
>
>Ian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Deb-Newby: Read HOWTO's?

2001-08-02 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Peter Hicks wrote:

>At 03:12 AM 08/02/2001 +0100, Brett Parker wrote:
>>On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 08:59:21PM -0500, d wrote:
>> > LURKER here again, what is used to read the HOWTO files?  All of the
>> ones I
>> > have on my system are **.gz, I know that means compressed.  What to
>> use
>> > to uncompress?  When I used to work on UNIX systems you used a command
>> > called "compress" with different switches to do that or to uncompress.
>> >
>> > As usual one for the road, if those that are NOT a user nor a programmer
>> > would put in the "Subject" some thing like what I have installed would
>> help
>> > MOA find the ones with the 'HOLD MY HAND' instructions and save me and
>> I am
>> > sure many others much time searching for thingys that could be useful
>> to me/us.
>>
>>cough, suggestion, zless. it'll probably be installed... failing that,
>>gzip -dc filename | less
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Brett
>
>or zcat filename.gz | more

piping cat to a pager?!  You HAVE to be joking

>
>

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Re: Deb-Newby: Read HOWTO's?

2001-08-01 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Brett Parker wrote:

>On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 08:59:21PM -0500, d wrote:
>> LURKER here again, what is used to read the HOWTO files?  All of the ones I
>> have on my system are **.gz, I know that means compressed.  What to use
>> to uncompress?  When I used to work on UNIX systems you used a command
>> called "compress" with different switches to do that or to uncompress.
>>
>> As usual one for the road, if those that are NOT a user nor a programmer
>> would put in the "Subject" some thing like what I have installed would help
>> MOA find the ones with the 'HOLD MY HAND' instructions and save me and I am
>> sure many others much time searching for thingys that could be useful to 
>> me/us.
>
>cough, suggestion, zless. it'll probably be installed... failing that,
>gzip -dc filename | less

I'd hope so: they're both in the same package, and gzip IS priority
standard.



>Cheers,
>
>Brett
>

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Re: Deb-Newby: Read HOWTO's?

2001-08-01 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, d wrote:

>LURKER here again, what is used to read the HOWTO files?  All of the ones I
>have on my system are **.gz, I know that means compressed.  What to use
>to uncompress?  When I used to work on UNIX systems you used a command
>called "compress" with different switches to do that or to uncompress.

I use zless, however you could use

gzip -dc .gz|less

>As usual one for the road, if those that are NOT a user nor a programmer
>would put in the "Subject" some thing like what I have installed would help
>MOA find the ones with the 'HOLD MY HAND' instructions and save me and I am
>sure many others much time searching for thingys that could be useful to me/us.
>
>TIA,
>d
>Don Hodges
>San Antonio, Texas
>
>
>

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Re: Modem speed

2001-08-01 Thread John Galt

bing localhost 

On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, LAMIRAULT Nicolas wrote:

>Does anybody know how we can do to know the speed of my internet
>connexion ?
>
>

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Re: potato to sid upgrade error 32 broken pipe

2001-08-01 Thread John Galt

This is a problem alright.  You may want to get debian-testing in on this,
as a smooth potato -> woody transition is getting more vital by the day.
When woody freezes, there MUST be a smooth upgrade path from potato

On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Sebastiaan wrote:

>> ---
>> 90 packages upgraded, 17 newly installed, 0 toremove and 3 not upgraded.
>>
>> 3 packages not fully installed or removed.
>> Need to get 0B/19.5MB of archives. After unpacking 13.0MB will be used.
>> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
>> perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open
>> shared object file: No such file or directory
>> E: Write error - write (32 Broken pipe)
>> E: Failure running sript /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt
>> sid:~#
>>
>>
>> Nevere ran into an error of this type. Should have I upgraded to woody
>> first, then unstable? Any suggestions appreciated.
>>
>Hello,
>
>I had these problems with perl when upgrading to woody. Just run apt-get
>dist-upgrade and apt-get -f install until both commands have finished (I
>had to do this over 20 times before my upgrade was complete!).
>
>Greetz,
>Sebastiaan
>
>
>
>

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Re: WinAlert! Problems with ZONEALARM

2001-07-30 Thread John Galt
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Ade Talabi wrote:

>It seems zonealarm is refusing all connection from my debian box, apart from
>connecting to the internet through netscape (Win box is my gateway[WIN 98 
>SE]), I cannot seem
>to get to the internet through my perl scripts. The major reason for using 
>Debian in the first
>intsance.
>
>Where shall I start from?

Make your Debian box a trusted machine in ZA.

>Ade.
>
>
>

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Re: data recovery startup service

2001-07-29 Thread John Galt

Package tct may be a good place to start:  The Coroner's Toolkit by Wietse
Venema has quite a few tools that may be used to recreate data if you know
what you're doing.  The only problem is it's in unstable/testing, so you
may have to either jump to testing or wait it out until Woody's over
freeze (prolly christmastime-ish).

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, JNF Stoffels wrote:

>hi there
>
>how u guys doin'?
>
>well I hope.
>
>i've just recently acquired a copy of debian 2.2 r3 and was wondering whether 
>or not i can use it to start an inedxpensive data recovery business.
>
>i live in south africa , and being one of the previously disadvantaged it's 
>still hard to find work.
>
>that i swhy i would like to start something that is fairly uncommon around 
>here.
>
>if you could point me to some open source software or even some documentation 
>so that i can understand how such software is supposed to work and write it 
>(it would be opensource of course) , i would greatly appreciated.
>
>cronus (unemployed self starter)
>

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Re: why procmail?

2001-07-29 Thread John Galt
On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Jeff Maxson wrote:

>
>relative newbie question: If I use pine (or any other filter-capable
>mail reader) why use procmail to filter the messages?  Pine does that on
>its own, if you tell it too...just wondering the benefits

None now.  Filtering in pine is a recent addition, so some of us use
procmail by inertia.

>Jeff
>
>

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Re: X Server + Root Access

2001-07-28 Thread John Galt
On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>How can I make it so that I can run the X Server using another user account?

If you're talking about logging in as user, then running an X client as
root, all you have to do is (in an xterm)

$xhost +localhost
$su -

#X_client_you_want_to_run_as_root &


If you're asking how to run X as a user because it won't let you, you need
to reconfigure xserver-common.

#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common

I'd suggest Console Users Only as a pretty good standard answer if you
don't know any better.

If you can run it as user A and you want to be able to run it as user B,
unless user A is a sudoer (which you're back to the second case), there is
no reason on Earth that user B can't run X under the same circumstances as
A already.


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>
>
>

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Re: pdf editor

2001-07-28 Thread John Galt
On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:

>on Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 08:34:29AM +0100, Brett Parker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
>wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 03:20:55AM +0530, harsha wrote:
>> > hi,
>> >
>> > > Sounds like the poster wanted to fill in PDF Forms, and the only app I 
>> > > know
>> > > that can do that is Acrobat Reader.
>> >
>> > hmmn there is no GNU utility for the same purpose. I have a problem
>> > in viewing some pdf files. xpdf refuses to open them but acrobat
>> > reader reads them. is it because the pdf files are encrypted or
>> > something like that. I haven't tried xpdf-i yet. poor bandwidth at
>> > the present moment. will check it out later though
>>
>> personally, I use gv to view pdf files, works for me :)
>
>Awesome!  Didn't realize that was possible.  I've recently removed the
>free (beer) but not free (speech) Adobe Acrobat Reader from all my
>systems, and encourage others to do similarly.

It's a start!  BTW, I prefer to think of Acrobat as Free (beer) but not
Free (Dmitriy) :)

>PS:  Brett, post your GPG public key to public keyserver.
>
>$ gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --send-keys brettparker
>
>Adding a 'keyserver' line to ~/.gnupg/options will allow you to
>automatically download new keys, and means you don't have to specify a
>'--keyserver' option on the command-line.  Keyservers peer keys
>automajickally.
>
>

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Re: pdf editor

2001-07-27 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Alan Shutko wrote:

>John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> $EDITOR/TeTex and dvipdfm?  But why you would force people to deal
>> with Adobe right now is beyond me
>
>It is not necessary to deal with Adobe to deal with PDF files.

No, there's xpdf _et al_, but the .pdf spec was by Adobe, and Acrobat is
still the canonical .pdf reader...  Which is one of the reasons I thought
elcomsoft's translator was nonsensical: it translated from ebook to
another Adobe product.

>> If you want to change the .pdf, might I suggest changing the
>> filetype to something that WASN'T developed by lowlifes?
>
>Are you also suggesting we remove PostScript from any printing
>toolchains?  That would make it hard to print to many printers, and
>impossible to print from many applications.

Is it REALLY that easy to print from Linux now?  Is there even a printing
application in the base distribution?  So yes, I am suggesting that
perhaps it's time to take a good hard look at how dependent printing is on
products designed by a company that also has designs on the very freedom
of the users (I mean free as in "not incarcerated", not beer, or speech,
or any other redefinition).  Compare how hard it would be to print after
removal of all Adobe-originated products to the hard labor done in
Leavenworth.  Now remember that Adobe just attempted to send somebody
there for FIVE YEARS for doing nothing more than writing a computer
program.  Adobe later withdrew the complaint, but Sklyarov is still facing
the jail time.  Adobe doesn't need Debian's help to do it to the next
Sklyarov.  Since postscript, .pdf, and ebooks all make money for Adobe
(postscript and .pdf mostly in residuals), it's time to stop using them.
Sic semper tyrannis.





>

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Re: pdf editor

2001-07-27 Thread John Galt
On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, harsha wrote:

>hi,
>> apt-get install xpdf-i ( this will get the package for you)
>
>xdpf-i helps you to view the decryption support. I am not looking for a viewer.
>
>
>> > I would like to know if there exists a package to **edit** pdf files.
>  
>meaning changing

$EDITOR/TeTex and dvipdfm?  But why you would force people to deal with
Adobe right now is beyond me: they're the ones that had the FBI arrest a
Russian at DefCon for violating the DMCA.

http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/US_v_Sklyarov/

If you want to change the .pdf, might I suggest changing the filetype to
something that WASN'T developed by lowlifes?

>regards
>harsha
>
>
>

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Re: Promise IDE ATA-100 controller on ASUS A7V133

2001-07-27 Thread John Galt

The bootdisks will NOT be the final kernel, unless you want to be horribly
obscene.  Use the idepci disks, get the system up, then customize the
system kernel with scsi-ide and all of the neat tools.  In fact, it's
gotten to the point that I only specify the parts necessary in the initial
configuration to go on to the next step: network, possibly serial, and the
main disk system (in fact, up until potato, there wasn't much choice but
to do what I do).  The point behind the bootdisks is to get your system to
a point where you can make the needed changes to get it to run as you
want.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, David Grant wrote:

>Okay, everyone keeps telling me to use the idepci disks, which sounds like
>it would probably work.  But on the website it says that the idepci ONLY
>supports IDE and PCI devices, not SCSI.  I don't have any SCSI devices, but
>actually I do want SCSI emulation for my CD writer.  But are there other
>limitations on these ide-pci kernels?  I mean why do these even exist in the
>first place.  If ide-pci supports the promise controller, why didn't they
>put this support into the main kernel as well.  (Also BTW, I have a Promise
>on-board controller, not a PCI card).
>
>David Grant
>PLEASE cc: to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "David Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 10:13 AM
>Subject: Re: Promise IDE ATA-100 controller on ASUS A7V133
>
>
>> You can just use the idepci install disks which detect the promise drives
>as
>> hde and hdf
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: David Grant
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 8:54 AM
>> Subject: Promise IDE ATA-100 controller on ASUS A7V133
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an ASUS A7V133 with PDC20265 on-board IDE as well as the standard
>> on-board VIA controller.  I am trying to install Debian potato 2.2r3.  I
>> need to get it to install from the on-board Promise IDE controller.  I
>tried
>> using the boot: parameter with these parameters, which I retrieved from
>> Windows 98 device manager resources:
>>
>> boot: linux ide2=0xA000, 0x9802 ide3=0x9400, 0x9002
>>
>> but this didn't work.  When it reached the first few screens in the Debian
>> installed it said that I didn't have any valid devices to install to.
>>
>> I went to a shell and looked at /proc/pci.  I looked fine as far as I
>know.
>> It showed an "unknown mass storage device" and said "unknown promise
>> device".  It also had the same addresses which I gave above as the boot
>> parameter.
>>
>> Is there anything else I need to do?  I used
>> http://www.geocities.com/ender7007/ as a guide.  But I need more help.
>Does
>> anyone know what I can do?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David Grant
>> Please cc: to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I am not subscribed to list.
>Thanks
>> a lot.
>>
>
>
>

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Re: mozilla with SSL for galeon in unstable?

2001-07-27 Thread John Galt

Shows how much I know: I belong to the Rev. Krusty's church :) (for people
that missed the joke: KDE has it's own browser [konqueror], and KDE's
maintainer within Debian is Ivan E Moore II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

>
>Mozilla is in non-us now.  It was pointed out to me to simply
>install mozilla-psm, and it worked!
>
>John Galt wrote:
>
>> I think there will be one, as soon as mozilla's maintainer does the Great
>> Mozilla Upgrade(tm).
>

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Re: mozilla with SSL for galeon in unstable?

2001-07-27 Thread John Galt


I think there will be one, as soon as mozilla's maintainer does the Great
Mozilla Upgrade(tm).  Apparently they're going to split the package in to
main and non-US components and do some other things involving splitting
off pieces parts.  They promised it RSN a while ago, so your guess is as
good as mine as to the when...

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

>
>I'd like to use galeon to login to sourceforge.
>
>Is there a SSL-enabled mozilla package anywahere that is
>compatible with unstable's galeon?  Perhaps I'm doing something
>wrong since mozilla is in non-us, but nothing happens when I
>click on SF's "Login with SSL" button after entering my name and
>password (mozilla asks me whether to remember it or not; but
>nothing happens after that).
>
>Still stuck using netscape,
>
>Peter
>
>
>

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Re: Off Topic: Mailing Agents?

2001-07-27 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Martin F. Krafft wrote:

>also sprach Adam Bell (on Wed, 25 Jul 2001 04:04:35PM -0400):
>> Okay, so can anyone tell me what popular (to Debian Users) MUA sends 
>> every
>> single message as an attachment to an empty message?
>
>as others have said, it's micro$oft's inability to stick to standards
>--- PGP/GPG nowadays uses MIME for signed and encrypted messages,
>which mickysoft can't handle...

I'm not too happy with some of the factual errors here.

1) PGP/GPG doesn't use anything: {p|g,g|p,p|g} is perfectly happy
encrypting anything you throw at it: it's a command line utility, designed
for use with STDIN and STDOUT.

2) if you can use "nowadays", it's not that standard.  Standards are
pretty much defined by their static quality, hence the fact that RFCs
aren't edited, they're superceded.

3) This is one of the few cases where it's not MS's fault.  Mutt made some
spectacular changes, and defined a standard to fit them (SOP so far).
Nobody else has really implemented the standard, yet mutt users yell and
scream that everyone else is not standards compliant.  The rest of the
world IS compliant, just not to mutt's amended standards.  To be precise,
there's a mode in mutt that breaks even pine compatibility: a signed
message shows up as an attachment under some circumstances.  I have no
fears that pine's going to arbitrarily run code, but I just trash the "all
attachment" messages anyway: life's too short to deal with non-inline
text.  I haven't had this problem on d-u, I found out about the mode on
another list, and FWIU it takes a pretty perverse person to make the
setting.


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Re: Off Topic: Mailing Agents?

2001-07-26 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

>
>Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
>
>> > > Yep, I remember the situation now -- Karsten sends his messages PGP
>> > > signed (I just checked). OE chokes on them :-). Signing messages is
>> > > good so I don't think he'll stop (it's just time for the rest of us to
>> > > catch up >
>> I could care less about outcrook express -- which cannot handle multipart
>> pgp/mime messages right. If one is going to use bovine crap for a MUA, one
>> better be able to deal with the smell.
>
>I'm not an Outlook user, but _every_ PGP-signed message I get
>goes by all my procmail rules straight into my plain inbox (So I
>immediately know when Karsten replies to debian-user messages in
>bulk!).
>
>
>The reason?  My incoming mail goes through an MS-Exchange server,
>and it strips out the signature part and makes a mess of the mail
>header.  There's no
>
>* ^X-Mailing-List: 
>or
>* ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>left to filter on.
>
>MS-Exchange sucks.

Only MUA I tolerate with MS-Sexchange is telnet blah 110...  retr and
linux's terminal paging is perfect for me :)

>Peter
>
>
>

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Re: nslookup and packages

2001-07-26 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Kalle Hasselström wrote:

>What package contaisn nslookup? Is there a command that lists all

dnsutils

>packages that supply command (or file) foo?

apt-cache search foo

will sometimes do the trick.  I personally use the bottom search engine on

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

out of force of habit from before apt-cache existed.

>

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Re: Getting CPU model and speed without rebooting

2001-07-26 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Danie Roux wrote:

>I want to get the CPU's model and speed without rebooting.
>
>/proc/cpuinfo (to me anyway) is useless. Unless someone knows how to convert:
>
>vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
>cpu family  : 6
>model   : 8
>model name  : Pentium III (Coppermine)
...
cpu MHz  : 449.125

model name gives you pentium 3, cpu MHz gives you 450.

>To a PIII/450?
>
>

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Re: Debian packages of kilyx?

2001-07-25 Thread John Galt

File a RFP bug... The worst that can happen is nobody takes it.

http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/

To find out how to request a package.

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Tiago Alves Macambira wrote:

>Now that Kylix is - sort of - free, is there any hope of seeing this
>beast in an apt-getable form?
>
>[]s
>MaCa
>

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Re: IP Aliasing with /etc/network/interfaces

2001-07-25 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, George wrote:

>Hi does anyone know how I can using ip aliasing with the
>/etc/network/interfaces (debian method). I could easily add another startup
>script with ifconfigs and routes, but that would be messy and uncalled for
>and I'm sure someone must have done it before and got it right. Nomatter
>what I've tried neither my pcmcia eth0 device is configured, (although the

/etc/network/interfaces gets processed before /etc/init.d/pcmcia.
Basically, your aliases never get configured because eth0 is not
recognized until after the configuration script is done.  Welcome to the
upside-down world of pcmcia and linux! I can't be of much help, as I've
never used PCMCIA myself, only helped friends and found out the ugly
truth.  Perhaps debian-laptop may have some better help WRT PCMCIA.

>module for it loads fine) nor are any of the aliases configured. I've tried
>the following lines :
>
>auto lo eth0 eth0:1 eth0:2// Didn't work
>auto lo eth0// Didn't work
>
>Also I tried changing the order of execution for the networking script, but
>to no avail : i.e. # mv /etc/rc2.d/S40networking /etc/rc2.d/S99networking
>and  # mv /etc/rc2.d/S40networking /etc/rc2.d/S04networking
>
>
>I've attached my /etc/network/interfaces if anyone wants to take a look, and
>feel free to ask me to post any more files. They're all pretty small i.e.
><10k
>
>PS : Bg info on my system : Running Woody Testing / 2.4.7 kernel / xirc_2pcs
>driver for pcmcia NIC. Sony VAIO laptop (don't think that'll be of much use
>though :-) )
>
>Thanks
>George
>

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Re: apt on kde like gnome-apt on gnome (kapt ?)

2001-07-25 Thread John Galt

kpackage.  It's mostly aimed at RPMs, but it does debs pretty well (at
least it did for Corel Linux when I played with it).

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Shriram Shrikumar wrote:

>Hi,
>
>does anyone know of a kde based dselect like there is gnome-apt for
>gnome ?
>
>thanx
>
>
>Shri
>
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Re: help getting xfree86 4 working on an ATI Rage lt pro

2001-07-25 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Wayne Topa wrote:

>
>   Subject: help getting xfree86 4 working on an ATI Rage lt pro
>   Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 11:42:16PM +1000
>
>In reply to:Daryl Dusheiko
>
>Quoting Daryl Dusheiko([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have been trying to get X working using Xfree86
>> version 4.0.3-4. I had it working successfully with
>> version 3.3.6.
>>
>> I initially installed Debian on my notebook using a CD
>> (release 2.2r2). After getting X working with
>> enlightenment I upgraded my distribution to the
>> "testing" variety. This is where everything came
>> crashing down.
>>
>> When I run startx, the screen goes blank and then
>> comes back with an error message - saying there are no
>> valid screens.
>>
>> I used dexconf to create my XFree86-4 file.
>>
>> Can anyone please help. I've included my XFree86-4 and
>> error log files.
>
>> Section "Device"
>>  Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
>>  Driver  "ati"
>> EndSection
>
>No memory listed for the Video.  That was 'one' of my problems.
>I had   VideoRam   4 and got the same results as you.  When
>changed to 4096 I finally got a screen.

For the ati driver, VideoRam is largely irrelevant for PCI/AGP cards.
Best thing to do is to just comment it out.  Take a look at
/usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.ati.gz

>Hope that that is all you have to do.  I had to play with a bunch of
>Options to get a nice looking X.  Working fine now on a Woody box but
>can't get the mouse working on the Potato system, yet.
>
>:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)
>
>

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Re: Install XF86_SVGA server?

2001-07-25 Thread John Galt

I re-CC'd d-u.  I have major qualms giving help offlist for numerous
reasons, the least of which is that the next guy may need the same help.

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Mike Randall wrote:

>John,
>
>Thank you for the reply, I have an ATI Rage Fury AGP card, it is in the
>list of cards to choose.

xserver-mach64  I'm not sure it does mach128 all that well, but it's
better'n SVGA.  In fact, you could get away with reading ATI for mach64,
as all ATI cards that I know about are covered under the mach64 banner
nowadays, even my extreme legacy VGA wonder.  Most of them will perform
after a fashion under SVGA, but 256 colors at 1024x768 is a crying shame
with a Rage.

>I had X working once, for a day, but the old hard disk died while I was
>installing Linux. I still don't know what combination of choices I made
>that allowed me to install the SVGA server.
>
>--Mike
>
>John Galt wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Mike Randall wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm a Linux newbie and am attempting to install XF86 with Debian 2.2r3.
>>>
>>> I get this error message when running the configuration utility:
>>>
>>> *** The server required by your card is not installed! Please abort,
>>> install the SVGA server as /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA and run this program
>>> again. ***
>>
>>
>> Which card?  xserver-svga is pretty generic, but there are some
>> specialized ones that you may need to look at other xservers for.
>>
>>> So how do I get the XF86_SVGA server/file installed from the CD rom
>>> images I made?
>>
>>
>> If you have apt configured, apt-get xserver-svga
>>
>> If not, use dselect to pull it off the CD.
>>
>> Failing that, mount the CD, find xserver-svga.deb (there will be some
>> largely irrelevant numbers after, so don't paste that exactly), and dpkg
>> -i
>>
>> I'm surprised that the potato tasksel let you off without xserver-svga...
>>
>>> Fortunately, I do know my way around Unix systems as a user. I can
>>> navigate the file system, mount the CD and use vi for basic stuff.
>>>
>>> Any and all help is greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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Re: snort-stat not reporting

2001-07-25 Thread John Galt

Make sure to include the patch; they like patches, especially if they
work.

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Isetro Savi wrote:

>No, I did not - guess I'll head over to debian.org and do that.
>
>On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 11:36:53PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
>>
>> Did you report a bug?
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Isetro Savi wrote:
>>
>> >I'm running Debian unstable and the snort-stat script does not do
>> >reporting correctly.  All I receive is a blank e-mail in place of the
>> >proper statistics it should create.
>> >
>> >After a little bit of troubleshooting, I have made a change in the
>> >script (diff follows below).  It seems my auth.log output is just a
>> >little bit different than what snort-stat thinks.  Is anybody else
>> >having this problem?
>> >
>> >/usr/sbin/snort-stat is my modified version
>> >
>> >--- ./snort-statTue Jul 24 08:33:36 2001
>> >+++ /usr/sbin/snort-statTue Jul 24 08:33:47 2001
>> >@@ -78,7 +78,7 @@
>> >
>> >   # For snort log, added by $Author: yenming $
>> >   # If this is a snort log
>> >-  if (/^(\w{3})\s+(\d+)\s(\d+)\:(\d+)\:(\d+)\s([\w-]+)\ssnort\[\d+\]:\s+
>> >+  if (/^(\w{3})\s+(\d+)\s(\d+)\:(\d+)\:(\d+)\s([\w]+)\ssnort\:\s+
>> >
>> >([^:]+):\s([\d\.]+)[\:]*([\d]*)\s[\-\>]+\s([\d\.]+)[\:]*([\d]*)/ox)
>> > {
>> >   $month  = $1; $day   = $2;  $hour  = $3; $minute = $4;
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: Install XF86_SVGA server?

2001-07-25 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Mike Randall wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I'm a Linux newbie and am attempting to install XF86 with Debian 2.2r3.
>
>I get this error message when running the configuration utility:
>
>*** The server required by your card is not installed! Please abort,
>install the SVGA server as /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA and run this program
>again. ***

Which card?  xserver-svga is pretty generic, but there are some
specialized ones that you may need to look at other xservers for.

>So how do I get the XF86_SVGA server/file installed from the CD rom
>images I made?

If you have apt configured, apt-get xserver-svga

If not, use dselect to pull it off the CD.

Failing that, mount the CD, find xserver-svga.deb (there will be some
largely irrelevant numbers after, so don't paste that exactly), and dpkg
-i

I'm surprised that the potato tasksel let you off without xserver-svga...

>Fortunately, I do know my way around Unix systems as a user. I can
>navigate the file system, mount the CD and use vi for basic stuff.
>
>Any and all help is greatly appreciated!
>
>Thank you,
>
>Mike
>
>
>

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