Re: game
Dr Gavin Seddon wrote: Hi, This may seem like a lame question, but, here I spend most time conducting computational biophysics for drug design and I could do with some kind of distraction so I don't keep on working during breaks. I have ALWAYS avoided games on my workstation but it was suggested they may provide a necessary distraction. Can anyone suggest a good game that isn't just mindlessly shooting stuff. Say a good adventure with nice graphics that requires some thought? Gavin. nethack and Omega come to mind. KQ is decent and Adonthell seems as if it would be decent (I'd play it except for the fact it LAGS my computer). You might also want to check out FreeCiv and FreeCraft. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: game
Katipo wrote: On 09 Jan 2004 12:54:49 + Dr Gavin Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This may seem like a lame question, but, here I spend most time conducting computational biophysics for drug design and I could do with some kind of distraction so I don't keep on working during breaks. I have ALWAYS avoided games on my workstation but it was suggested they may provide a necessary distraction. Can anyone suggest a good game that isn't just mindlessly shooting stuff. Say a good adventure with nice graphics that requires some thought? Hello Gavin, Why not chess? Crafty, with Xboard. Regards, David. I would have suggested chess except I keep losing and I don't recommend games where I don't at leat win once in a while (except for Nethack, and only 'cause that came rocks my socks, even if I never make it past Dungeon level 14). -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing portage on Debian
I'm trying to install portage on Debian, does anyone have any tips or tricks past what I've already done (copy and pasted from a conversation I was having with my helper at the time). And yes, I have Python 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 installed. (15:47:25) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/portage-2.0.49-r21/src/sandbox-1.1# ./create-localdecls Checking truncate argument type... off_t Checking libc version... libc.so.6 Checking glibc subversion... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/portage-2.0.49-r21/src/sandbox-1.1# make gcc -Wall -c -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPIC -fPIC -D_REENTRANT libsandbox.c gcc -Wall -c -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPIC -fPIC -D_REENTRANT sandbox_futils.c gcc libsandbox.o sandbox_futils.o -shared -fPIC -ldl -lc -o libsandbox.so -nostdlib -lgcc gcc -Wall -c sandbox.c gcc sandbox.o sandbox_futils.o getcwd.c -ldl -lc -o sandbox [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/portage-2.0.49-r21/src/sandbox-1.1# ./create-localdecls Checking truncate argument type... off_t Checking libc version... libc.so.6 Checking glibc subversion... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/portage-2.0.49-r21/src/sandbox-1.1# make test make: *** No rule to make target `test'. Stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/portage-2.0.49-r21/src/sandbox-1.1# make install gcc -Wall -c -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPIC -fPIC -D_REENTRANT libsandbox.c gcc libsandbox.o sandbox_futils.o -shared -fPIC -ldl -lc -o libsandbox.so -nostdlib -lgcc install -d -m 0755 /lib install -d -m 0755 /usr/lib/portage/bin install -d -m 0755 /usr/lib/portage/lib install -m 0755 libsandbox.so /lib install -m 0755 sandbox /usr/lib/portage/bin install -m 0644 sandbox.bashrc /usr/lib/portage/lib [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/portage-2.0.49-r21/src/sandbox-1.1# (15:48:08) John Hood: :) (15:48:33) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: I wonder what I do next. *loogs around at the commands in /root/portage-version/bin/ (15:48:34) John Hood: sandbox is a security module... (15:48:38) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: right (15:48:50) John Hood: see if you have the emerge command available. (15:48:58) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: OKAY (15:49:13) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: nope (15:49:17) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: sorry for caps (15:49:20) John Hood: /usr/bin/emerge (15:49:29) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: I'm root, no emerge (15:49:35) John Hood: hmmm (15:49:37) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# e e16menueditefix epstopdf exim_fixdb e2fsck egrep eqn exim_lock e2fsck.static einitexeqn2graph exim_tidydb e2imageeject esac eximconfig e2label eximstats e2pall electricsheep esd-config exinext e_cache_clean elif etex exiqsumm e_cache_query else eval exit e_gen_gnome_menu elvtuneeview exiwhat e_gen_kde_menu embedxpm evim expand e_gen_menu enable evirtex expect ebbenc2xs ex expectk echo enlightenment exec expiry echo-client-2 enlightenment.install exedat export ed enscript exicyclog expr edit envexigrep extractres editor envsubst exim eyuvtoppm editreseppexim-upgrade-to-r3 eesh eps2epsexim_dbmbuild efax epsffitexim_dumpdb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# e (15:49:48) John Hood: :( (15:50:06) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: it is in /root/portage-version/bin, though (15:50:21) John Hood: Try it. (15:50:24) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: should I copy those to /usr/sbin ? (15:50:52) John Hood: /usr/bin (15:50:57) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: okay at which point I did so, as evidenced below (15:51:33) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# emerge portage Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 10, in ? import emergehelp,xpak,string,re,commands,time,shutil,traceback,atexit,signal File /usr/bin/emergehelp.py, line 7, in ? from output import * ImportError: No module named output [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# (15:51:50) John Hood: :( (15:53:47) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: just ran sandbox (15:55:27) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: doh. (16:11:21) Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.: doh. No good. Granted I'm no programmer either. As you can see, I'm at a loss as to what to do next. Help! -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing portage on Debian
Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 04:35:05PM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: I'm trying to install portage on Debian, does anyone have any tips or tricks past what I've already done (copy and pasted from a conversation I was having with my helper at the time). Don't. Use apt-get instead. My sources don't have a rather outdated package that I want. I've downloaded the source from Tucows but it breaks when it looks for ncurses.h (it can't find it) so it won't compile from source. It's in portage, though, so I figured I could get it and all it's deps that way. The program is cvoicecontrol -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing portage on Debian
Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 08:13:30PM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: My sources don't have a rather outdated package that I want. I've downloaded the source from Tucows but it breaks when it looks for ncurses.h (it can't find it) so it won't compile from source. It's in portage, though, so I figured I could get it and all it's deps that way. You need ncurses-dev. snip I thought so too, until I installed ncurses-dev, deleted the source dir and re-unarchived the files and re-ran the program and got the same error. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Doing a dist-upgrade to unstable
Does anyone know if the gimp1.3 packages include GIF support now that the patent on GIF has expired? -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: p2p program
konf wrote: hello, what p2p program under debina would you use [sugest to use]? sorry for english bye apt-get install gtk-gnutella -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with apt-get upgrade -y and crontab
From the cron daemon email I get wrt to apt-get (which I run from root's crontab): Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/apt-get upgrade -y Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... The following packages have been kept back gaim libggz1 libgnomeprint2.2-0 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnutls7 php4 The following packages will be upgraded debconf debconf-i18n debconf-utils gettext gettext-base linux-kernel-headers python python2.3 python2.3-tk xml-core 10 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded. Need to get 3161kB/6162kB of archives. After unpacking 897kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main debconf-i18n 1.4.3 [51.2kB] Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main debconf 1.4.3 [88.1kB] Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main gettext-base 0.13.1-1 [88.5kB] Get:4 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main linux-kernel-headers 2.5.999-test7-bk-13 [1376kB] Get:5 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main debconf-utils 1.4.3 [28.6kB] Get:6 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main gettext 0.13.1-1 [1517kB] Get:7 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main xml-core 0.04 [10.7kB] Fetched 3161kB in 13s (226kB/s) dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH. dpkg: `start-stop-daemon' not found on PATH. dpkg: `install-info' not found on PATH. dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 4 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) Of course I've checke the $PATH and tab-completed the commands in question. The reason I'm crontabbing the upgrade is so that it happens without having to wait for me (I crontab apt-get update as well). This way my box is automagically kept up-to-date. /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: error running postrotate script error running postrotate script error running postrotate script run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1 Should that be anything to worry about? -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Putting URL view results in a txt file without copy and pasting
Hey list, Earlier today I tried $urlview .gaim/logs/*.log url-view.txt It worked, but the output was a bit nasty. Is there a way to just get the url's from urlview into a txt file? -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: want to use a certificate with kmail
LeVA wrote: Hi! I need to use a certificate (issued by TrustCenter) and sign my messages with it (this is essential for my work). My question is, how to use this with kmail. I can export this certificate with mozilla, and it outputs a .p12 file. Is it possible to load this to kmail? And do I need some additional security plugins for kmail, to be able to use this kind of certificate? The certificate signature algorithm is PKCS #1 MD5 With RSA Encryption. Thanks for the help! Daniel Yes, you can import them to KMail. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with awstats
J.A. de Vries wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Andy Firman wrote: On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 09:52:23AM +0800, Jiele wrote: Hi, guys, Installed Awstats (Version: 5.6-1), works fine. However, I just noticed that it only generates monthly report. So when a new month starts, all the past statistics are gone, and everything starts from 0 (e.g. number of visits, domains/countries, etc). One possible way is to generate a new report when a new month starts, but what I want is to see all the historical data from a single report. Not sure if I understand your question so take this advice with a grain of salt. I run a cron job every morning at 8am: 0 8 * * */usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -config=yourdomain.com -update I don't think this is what they OP wanted. I think his problem is that all previous stats are overwritten upon a new run. What I do is use the -dir and -date options provided by awstats_buildstaticpages.pl. Do a lynx /usr/share/doc/awstats/html/awstats_tools.html to read more. HTH Grx HdV I don't see how the original stats could be overwritten though. I've never had the problem being discussed and until the latest version (5.9) never even told it to explicitly keep a history. I do have previous examples but I would have to search back up cd's for them. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: want to use a certificate with kmail
LeVA wrote: snip And I you don't mind my asking, how can I import it, and where can I set it up as my default signing method? Do I have to install some additional security plugins into kmail, cause now in the KMail setup/Security/Security plugins page there is nothing. That list is empty. Thanks! Daniel You might need to apt-get install kcertmanager but import process is taken care of tools - Configure KMail. Look at all the tabs available. I don't have KMail installed anymore, but I do know you can import such certificates (I've used KMail for about two years before totally nuking KDE in favor of WindowMaker). -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ
Josh Robinson wrote: Not meaning to be a prude, but see: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct, next to last rule. could you please quote webpages for those who have difficulty accessing webpages from email? (the sysadmins have disabled the URL-viewer in Pine when run on my email-server, for example...) besides, the next-to-last is 'Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists via packet radio, where swearing is illegal.' - where was the foul language? Some people were (and still are) swearing, not that I mind. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ
Nano Nano wrote: On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 10:01:31AM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: [snip] There are always people (often good, well-meaning people) in every country and government who seek greater control over their citizens, because they honestly believe that they know best how people should behave and run their lives. When a dreadful event like 9/11 occurs, these folks take advantage of people's fears to incrementally encroach upon freedom in the name of security. Yeah but there *really are* people out there who want to kill us. It's your job to prevent them. There are three basic approaches: aggressive (the current approach), passive (give in to them completely and abjectly -- as yet untested), or diplomacy. You probably favor diplomacy -- some people who hate Bush say Clinton did this. What *really* happened is we got a false sense of security that the world was at peace while the criminals really operated with impunity. The Clinton approach seems best on the surface, and is worst in reality. The aggressive approach at least truly messes up the terrorists plans. Another approach, complete and utter passivity, the Quaker 'I Wont Fight Even To Save Myself' approach, has not yet been tested. Let's just completely and utterly acquiecse to all of the terrorists demands. It's never been tried, but it to would keep the terrorists from killing us. You do not need to remove civil liberties to fight terrorism. Less freedom does not equal more secure. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ
Nano Nano wrote: On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 12:18:45PM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: [snip] You do not need to remove civil liberties to fight terrorism. Less freedom does not equal more secure. Okay, what's the plan? Passivity, of course, is not an option. I'm gonna fight to protect myself and my friends. Terrorists do not have any agendas except causing terror. My plan is to just fucking ignore them (not to the point of making yourself unable to defend yourself of course). IF they blow themselves up, just report it as a car bombing. Don't mention what group did what. That is exactly what they want, to be noticed. What has that gotten us though? More bombings and terror. If we know al-Qeada is going to try and attack the Statue of Liberty, you take steps to protect the Statue but that's it. You don't need to strip my freedom of speech and to move about the country anonymously to protect the Statue. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailman/exim problem
Exim's conf file attached as well as /etc/aliases due to possible relevance already checked man mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# man mailman No manual entry for mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache search mailman docs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache search mailman doc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache search mailman man lg-issue91 - Issue 91 of the Linux Gazette. mailman - Powerful, web-based mailing list manager gforge-lists-mailman - Collaborative development tool - mailing-lists (using Mailman) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# No other documentation available (good gods that's horrible in and of itself) So here goes it. I have mailman 90% working. Automated, mailman originated messages (such as subscribe request confirmations originating at the server (ala the invite tool)), admin and user interface works. I can send and recieve mail via local user accounts ('ve tested this thoroughly). My exim.conf (attached) looks to be pretty tight, and aliases (attached) appears to be set up correctly. Replying to administrivia/relaying normal list traffic is still broke, as is access to the public archive (which really doesn't exist due to the fact messages aren't being sent). I've sent about 4 test messages that have caused this: Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] if [ -x /usr/lib/exim/exim3 -a -f /etc/exim/exim.conf ]; then +/usr/lib/exim/exim3 -q ; fi X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh X-Cron-Env: HOME=/var/mail X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=mail 2004-01-03 13:08:01 1AcqVM-0007Rx-00 Neither the system_aliases director nor the address_pipe transport set a uid +for local delivery of |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post listadmins Now, in aliases, I tried putting root one space after the colon (in between the pipe to |var/lib/blah/blah and listadmin*:) and wound up with frozen messages. Reloading mailman (forcibly at times) has not helped with either the frozen messages or the above situation. I can't decide if it's Debian related or purely mailman related. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. # This is the main exim configuration file. # It was originally generated by `eximconfig', part of the exim package # distributed with Debian, but it may edited by the mail system administrator. # This file originally generated by eximconfig at Mon Dec 22 12:10:09 CST 2003 # See exim info section for details of the things that can be configured here. # Please see the manual for a complete list # of all the runtime configuration options that can be included in a # configuration file. # This file is divided into several parts, all but the last of which are # terminated by a line containing the word end. The parts must appear # in the correct order, and all must be present (even if some of them are # in fact empty). Blank lines, and lines starting with # are ignored. ## #MAIN CONFIGURATION SETTINGS # ## # Specify the domain you want to be added to all unqualified addresses # here. Unqualified addresses are accepted only from local callers by # default. See the receiver_unqualified_{hosts,nets} options if you want # to permit unqualified addresses from remote sources. If this option is # not set, the primary_hostname value is used for qualification. qualify_domain = joseph-a-nagy-jr.homelinux.org # If you want unqualified recipient addresses to be qualified with a different # domain to unqualified sender addresses, specify the recipient domain here. # If this option is not set, the qualify_domain value is used. # qualify_recipient = # Specify your local domains as a colon-separated list here. If this option # is not set (i.e. not mentioned in the configuration file), the # qualify_recipient value is used as the only local domain. If you do not want # to do any local deliveries, uncomment the following line, but do not supply # any data for it. This sets local_domains to an empty string, which is not # the same as not mentioning it at all. An empty string specifies that there # are no local domains; not setting it at all causes the default value (the # setting of qualify_recipient) to be used. local_domains = localhost:joseph-a-nagy-jr.homelinux.org # Allow mail addressed to our hostname, or to our IP address. local_domains_include_host = true local_domains_include_host_literals = true # Domains we relay for; that is domains that aren't considered local but we # accept mail for them. #relay_domains = # If this is uncommented, we accept and relay mail for all domains we are # in the DNS as an MX
Re: mailman/exim problem
mike wrote: On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:27:49 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote Exim's conf file attached as well as /etc/aliases due to possible relevance already checked man mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# man mailman No manual entry for mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache search mailman docs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache search mailman doc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache search mailman man lg-issue91 - Issue 91 of the Linux Gazette. mailman - Powerful, web-based mailing list manager gforge-lists-mailman - Collaborative development tool - mailing-lists (using Mailman) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# No other documentation available (good gods that's horrible in and of itself) Try below for more info: www.list.org I guess horribley inadequate documentation is better then none at all. So here goes it. I have mailman 90% working. Automated, mailman originated messages (such as subscribe request confirmations originating at the server (ala the invite tool)), admin and user interface works. I can send and recieve mail via local user accounts ('ve tested this thoroughly) . My exim.conf (attached) looks to be pretty tight, and aliases (attached) appears to be set up correctly. I've always had problems when I didn't put user = list in my exim.conf file. This line is located near your system_aliases stanza. hth, Mike I think that did the trick. I restarted both exim and mailman and I'm starting to get stuff from the test (soon to go live) list that I created. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailman/exim problem
Andy Firman wrote: On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 05:43:29PM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: mike wrote: On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:27:49 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote Exim's conf file attached as well as /etc/aliases due to possible relevance already checked man mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# man mailman No manual entry for mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache search mailman docs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache search mailman doc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache search mailman man lg-issue91 - Issue 91 of the Linux Gazette. mailman - Powerful, web-based mailing list manager gforge-lists-mailman - Collaborative development tool - mailing-lists (using Mailman) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# No other documentation available (good gods that's horrible in and of itself) Try below for more info: www.list.org I guess horribley inadequate documentation is better then none at all. What are you talking about? It is well documented! From a casual loo kat the website that is hard to tell. It does not get any better than this: http://www.exim.org/howto/mailman.html I saw that, it's geared towards source installs of mailman, not binary. The biggest difference is in setting of permissions and directories. Also, did you see my other post? Look at /usr/share/doc/mailman It should be right there in front of you! I saw, am gonna look at them this evening. I'm still having problems accessing the archives from the web. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls nitpick
Russ Schneider wrote: When you do an ls on Debian, you see something like the following: file1 file2 file3 dir1 dir2 file4 etc. When you do the same on Mandrake, you get file1 file2 file3 dir1/ dir2/ file4 You see how there's a / at the end of each directory name, making it really easy to tell at a glance what's a directory and what's not? Any way to config Debian's ls to do that? I realize it's just a nitpick, but I am curious. In your .bashrc file you can enable console colors. It's not the same, but it's a way to differentiate different types of files (the default is dir's re a bluish color, executables are green, plain files (html, txt, mp3's etc.) are white/gray and archives are red). -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Solved]Re: Problems with apt-get update
Johann Koenig wrote: On Friday January 2 at 03:26pm Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 00:09, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: snip What's going on here? I can't do anything (at least not without commenting out those sources) with apt-get because of this problem. apt-get install debian-keys -t experimental Can you give me your sources for this experimental? I use deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian ../project/experimental main or with browser ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/main/binary-i386/Packages and there is no debian-keys package there. I think the package is actually 'debian-keyring,' because I have all the trees (stable/testing/unstable/experimental) set up properly in my sources.list, and the closest thing 'apt-cache search debian key' found was debian-keyring You are correct, my bad (and much apologies). [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install debian-keyring -t experimental -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gaim problem
Jacob S. wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 21:50:20 -0600 Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip - problems with gaim crashing deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/wo ody gnome2.2/ hmm... A Woody backport running on testing/unstable doesn't sound like the best of arrangements. Especially when the newer gaim versions run on gtk2 and the real Woody is still running gtk1.2.x Judging by the url, it looks like backports.org tries to take this into account, but it is still a precarious way to mix distros. No, it doesn't sound like a good thing either. Attached is my sources.list snip Well, now it crashes (repeatedly) when I try to enable check spelling while typing. Granted I've also installed every available ispell module. ;) Have you tried a apt-get -t unstable install gaim? (At this point you'll probably need to apt-get remove gaim first.) Do you have any unstable sources? If so I'd also like to get someones apt.conf file wrt the cache being larger then default (a pref's file would be nice, too). All offlist, please (so as not to needlessly clutter people's inboxes). -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. #CD-ROM #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r1 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-7 (20021218)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r1 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-6 (20021218)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r1 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-5 (20021218)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r1 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-4 (20021218)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r1 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-2 (20021218)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r1 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20021218)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main #stable #deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib #deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free #deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib #deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib #deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib #deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free #deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.4/Debian stable main deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/ #unstable deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib #experimental deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib
Re: Unsuccessful unsubscribe request
Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip I was in error about having no way to copy the headers. Here is the latest header I received. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 24973 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2004 13:52:56 - Received: from murphy.debian.org (146.82.138.6) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Jan 2004 13:52:56 - Received: by murphy.debian.org (Postfix, from userid 38) id 93EB5E96F; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 07:52:39 -0600 (CST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: debian-user-digest Digest V2004 #1 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] archive/volume2004/1 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary=63f65509f708d66220bcb9e2ae8ae16f To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 07:52:39 -0600 (CST) Hope this helps; Hoyt I'm surprised you didn't see it yourself. You need to send the unsub message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ
Since many people fail to read the instructions at the end of list mails, I am providing an unofficial Unsubscribe FAQ 1. How do I unsubscribe from debian-some-list@lists.debian.org? You send your request, with the word Unsubscribe in the subject line, to debian-some-list[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. But what if I send it to just debian-some-list@lists.debian.org? I'll shoot you. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNSUBSCRIBE
walther tholet wrote: thank you ! you have to send your unsub request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ
Jan Minar wrote: On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 09:49:47AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: I'll shoot you. Some of them: (a) The unsubscribers are dispersed all around the world So? IF you'd like you can translate the FAQ into any languages needed. (c) The traffic speed is not sufficient to get there in time (b) They will tend to run away Well, if they are unsubscribing from the list...not much one can do about them running away anyways. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem With Getting Printer To Print
I'm using foomatic (although I have many other print services at my disposal if I need them) to install a local and networked printer. The local printer is a Canon BJC-2100 and is detected just fine. The only problem is when I send it the test page, it won't print! I spent about 30 minutes toying with it trying to figure out how to get it to print but nothing seemed to work. So I set it to default and moved on to installing the networked printer. It was detected kinda okay. Had to select make and model (Epson Stylus 785) but it won't print thet test page, either. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ
Jan Minar wrote: On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 11:06:45AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: Jan Minar wrote: (c) The traffic speed is not sufficient to get there in time Oh, it isn't `traffic' in English, is it?: Aeroplanes, automobiles, trains, ... So you will not be able to chase them, physicaly :-) Ah. It's what is known as an empty threat. Most likely I'll just whip out the LARTsaber or clue-by-four. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with apt-get update
W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://non-us.debian.org testing/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems What's going on here? I can't do anything (at least not without commenting out those sources) with apt-get because of this problem. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Solved]Re: Problems with apt-get update
Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://non-us.debian.org testing/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems What's going on here? I can't do anything (at least not without commenting out those sources) with apt-get because of this problem. apt-get install debian-keys -t experimental gpg --import /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg apt-get update (after uncomment some sources) I should note that http://http.us.debian.org stable is still unverifiable via GPG even though I imported 859 keys. gpg: Total number processed: 850 gpg: w/o user IDs: 1 gpg: imported: 849 (RSA: 5) sorry to the folks I haven't responded to, I got involved with a huge update (159 packages) after switching to a friends sources.list Yes, I am using packages from experimental (not many, but a few) because testing and stable are too far behind (sorry, GAIM .58 and .64 are really old news) for me (I use Yahoo, MSN, ICQ and AIM, as well as really old packages for other programs). -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Solved]Re: Problems with apt-get update
Antony Gelberg wrote: On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 05:09:27PM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: Yes, I am using packages from experimental (not many, but a few) because testing and stable are too far behind (sorry, GAIM .58 and .64 are really old news) for me (I use Yahoo, MSN, ICQ and AIM, as well as really old packages for other programs). How about moving to unstable? Currently gaim v0.72. A I already h ave .72, I got it with an entry in my old sources.list I think I'm going to stick with testing, for now. After all, I am running a production server[0] on this box, too. [0]: http://joseph-a-nagy-jr.homelinux.org -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gaim problem
Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 03:43:33PM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: Took care of that error, but it is still telling me that gaim .64 is the newest version. $ ./madison-lite gaim gaim | 1:0.58-2.3 |stable | alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, source, sparc gaim | 1:0.64-3 | testing | alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, source, sparc gaim | 1:0.72-1 | unstable | alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, source, sparc Looks like you're using testing. I know that I'm using testing/unstable. I had to add another source to my sources.list (which I'll provide if anyone wants) so my problem is solved now. I also encountered the problem that was the original point of this thread, GAIM dieing when you send a msg via MSN or Yahoo, but it has only happened once so I dunno. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Darkness
Antony Gelberg wrote: Hi all, I've been trying to rip Permission To Land by The Darkness to ogg using grip (and cdparanoia). cdparanoia has tremendous problems with the disc, which plays ok in a CD player. If anyone out there has it, can they have a go at ripping it? The back label mentions digital copy protection, which I find rather worrying... A Try disabling cdparanoia. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gaim problem
Scott C. Linnenbringer wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2004, at 08:02 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: I know that I'm using testing/unstable. That doesn't mean, however, that you are running the unstable distribution. If you really wanted to know, show the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list If your main repository contains either 'testing' or 'sarge' you'll be pulling 0.64 from it. I did an apt-get dist-upgrade -t testing like the third day I had my box up. tty1-6 says that I'm running testing/unstable I had to add another source to my sources.list (which I'll provide if anyone wants) so my problem is solved now. I know Robert McQueen (gaim's maintainer, last time I checked) runs his own repository on people.d.o with his latest packages, so I figure that's where you obtained it from. Nope. deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/wo ody gnome2.2/ I also encountered the problem that was the original point of this thread, GAIM dieing when you send a msg via MSN or Yahoo, but it has only happened once so I dunno. I use neither of those services/modules, but you might want to investigate some more. Gaim's not perfect, but it has never crashed for me. Well, now it crashes (repeatedly) when I try to enable check spelling while typing. Granted I've also installed every available ispell module. ;) The problem with it crashing when trying to msg an MSN user was a one time phenomenon. Up until now I've never had problems with GAIM, either. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gaim problem
panda wrote: Hi, I am not very sure I should be sending this on this list. Please tell me if I am wrong. I installed gaim ( version 0.72 ) using aptitude. It shows my contacts on YM and MSN but the moment I click on one of them ( off or online ) gaim shuts down. I would send in a bug report but the message asks me if I am using the most recent version which I am not ( 0.74 ) How did you manage to get .72 (even using aptitude)? I can't find any packages higher then .62 (from unstable). As for the problem, I have the same problem with the official Yahoo client so I too am interested in the solution. Checking for new version with apt-get -t unstable does not find anything. I did not want to compile from source since it is much easier to keep the system up to date using apt. Has anybody faced any similar problems? Thanks panda -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gaim problem
Scarletdown wrote: Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: panda wrote: Hi, I am not very sure I should be sending this on this list. Please tell me if I am wrong. I installed gaim ( version 0.72 ) using aptitude. It shows my contacts on YM and MSN but the moment I click on one of them ( off or online ) gaim shuts down. I would send in a bug report but the message asks me if I am using the most recent version which I am not ( 0.74 ) How did you manage to get .72 (even using aptitude)? I can't find any packages higher then .62 (from unstable). As for the problem, I have the same problem with the official Yahoo client so I too am interested in the solution. Checking for new version with apt-get -t unstable does not find anything. I'm running 0.72 just fine. I got it from here: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/ W: GPG error: http://download.kde.org stable Release: Unknown error executing gpgv W: GPG error: http://mirrors.kernel.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems That's after running apt-get update about three dozen times. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gaim problem
Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: snip W: GPG error: http://download.kde.org stable Release: Unknown error executing gpgv W: GPG error: http://mirrors.kernel.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: GPG error: http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems That's after running apt-get update about three dozen times. Took care of that error, but it is still telling me that gaim .64 is the newest version. -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Problems With Debian 3.0r1 testing/unstable
Sebastian Kapfer wrote: snip alsa-base does not contain any sound drivers. alsa-base is the init.d script which loads sound drivers (and a few other technical details). Do you have an alsa-modules package installed which matches your kernel? (I assume you're running a 2.4 series kernel. 2.6 has ALSA built in.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install alsa-modules Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package alsa-modules has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list However the following packages replace it: alsa-base E: Package alsa-modules has no installation candidate And yes, I'm running 2.4.18-bf2.4 Once you have installed the alsa-modules package, you can run dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base to select your sound driver. I'll do that. Perhaps I missed something. snip -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Problems With Debian 3.0r1 testing/unstable
Johann Koenig wrote: On Monday December 29 at 08:10pm Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install alsa-modules Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package alsa-modules has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list apt-cache search alsa-modules Pick the one that matches your kernel version. If none exists, you must compile your own from alsa-source using make-kpkg. It's not very hard, read the docs in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source I can't compile from source. Hardware is VERY flakey. *searches for mythical alas-modules* -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Problems With Debian 3.0r1 testing/unstable
Johann Koenig wrote: On Monday December 29 at 08:10pm Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install alsa-modules Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package alsa-modules has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list apt-cache search alsa-modules Pick the one that matches your kernel version. If none exists, you must compile your own from alsa-source using make-kpkg. It's not very hard, read the docs in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search alsa-modules alsa-modules-2.4.16-386 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.16-586 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.16-586tsc - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.16-686 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.16-686-smp - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.16-k6 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.16-k7 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.22-1-386 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.22-1-586tsc - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.22-1-686 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.22-1-686-smp - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.22-1-k6 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.22-1-k7 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) alsa-modules-2.4.22-1-k7-smp - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a Linux joseph-a-nagy-jr.homelinux.org 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ The TZ is off though, for some reason (the windowmaker clock applet shows correct time though) -- Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Student at Motlow State Community College Political Activist Extrodinaire The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (no subject)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 23 December 2003 09:14, Ken Gilmour wrote: Replying to the message sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:23:03 EST, received at 15:10:32 on 23/12/2003. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i got a lexmark 1020 printer and it will not print out on windows xp. Please can you help me. This is a Debian linux user list. We know very little about windows XP because it is an inferior product. If you have installed Debian we may be able to help you install your printer. YHBT. HAND. Please, don't feed the trolls. - -- The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/6Fzl6i+npmQve9oRAvKYAKCCJ2X2v2/zDis8sw1zH1KxnnIe+ACdEkPy /IGMlgCa69jhJWcidDUFEzg= =DeCL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window Manager selection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 23 December 2003 09:17, D Hoyem wrote: Hi All, I just did a dist-upgrade on my testing system. When I did the startx and my window manager came up I found that I was in gnome 2.4 and Window Maker wasn't up and running. After I did the startx it asks me some questions and I obviously chose the wrong answers. When I went into root and answered the questions correctly, I had Window Maker up and running. I know that there is a reconfig xwindow something command, but I'm unable to find it. How can I get back to my Window Maker for the user? Thanks in advance. Don Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-insert-your-xserver-here - -- The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/6F1G6i+npmQve9oRAkzuAJ9/DCrW17tudnBO6rZCRRAsqBAUIQCfdHJE 45vGmFluPpbVrfw84uxP6bg= =dzGd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Relocation Error on Debian 3.0r1 testing/unstable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, I had previously successfully moved the fs around, but I fscked it up and had to reload. No biggie because I had a list of where I wanted everything. So I reload, iron out the kinks, and pretty soon I'm back into KDE (w/o a mouse, but I quickly fixed that). Now I can run logjam as root w/o any problems from both the cli and the gui, but as soon as I try to run it as user from the gui it silently fails, and when I try from the cli I get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ logjam logjam: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: XRenderQuerySubpixelOrder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I get the same problem for Knode: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ knode knode: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkdenetwork.so.2: undefined symbol: _ZN9KListView5eventEP6QEvent [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ and a similar problem for gaim .64 and gtkdiskfree [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gtkdiskfree gtkdiskfree: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: XRenderQuerySubpixelOrder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ WTF? relocation error? I completely re-initialized the / and /boot filesystems just so errors like this wouldn't occur. I removed Xft.so.2 (stupidly so, but I fixed that too) and that didn't work. Do you folks know what is going on? BTW, I'm running Debian 3.0r1 testing/unstable (just because 90% of the updates needed for KDE 3.1.4 come from there) - -- The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/6F456i+npmQve9oRAiIbAJ9T+9anDGEfZU9mZAGphmeyKJkwcwCgiYWK fAzxumnITBSWRYzHFOOXsBw= =DfUD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filesystem Mounted On The Wrong Mount Points
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 December 2003 11:17, David Z Maze wrote: Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I drop out of X (how do you kill X once it is going?) Ctrl+Alt+Bksp will kill your X server; if you're running under a display manager [gdm, kdm, xdm, wdm], that will probably restart the server, so you'd need to log in on the console as root and run /etc/init.d/xdm stop (or equivalent). and make temp folders and start moving stuff around, can I just rearrange everything (while making the appropriate changes in FSTAB)? Or can I just change FSTAB and reboot and everything is miraculously where it should be? Just changing /etc/fstab won't cause the data to magically move between partitions. If I were doing this level of shuffling, I'd probably shut the system down to single-user mode ('shutdown' or 'telinit 1' as root). If you're trying to move the root partition, I'd do it while booted from your favorite restore media; remember in that case to also update your bootloader configuration to know where the new root partition is. Haha, I almost had everything perfectly set up. I should have waited for your email. Only problem is I use a boot floppy and using the cli commands to make another has yet to be successful for me. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell - -- The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/6F8j6i+npmQve9oRAuYbAJ9iCSb31M53k3WOM/06R8xuDSiP6gCfSdpJ hzbgLen3uhrGOxLz2LBE1NE= =G8vp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto? ATI Radeon on Sarge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 23 December 2003 20:08, hanasaki wrote: Any thoughts on how to use a ATI Radeon (probably 9000 or 9200) sarge? Sarge has XFree4.2x and the xfree86.org web site documents no radeon support until XFree4.3x. ATI seems to have some drivers on their site but only in RPM format (no .deb) Also, someone mentioned the VESA driver. Could this be of any value? OS- Debian Sarge Kernel- 2.4.24 and 2.6 Any info would be most appreciated. 100% open source is the goal and NVidia supposedly is not all open source. Thanks, I just apt-get isntall xserver-common and xserver-xfree86 -t experimental There is no way to do it with XFree4.2.x - -- The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/6QNk6i+npmQve9oRAmEhAJ9CqO24ZN457twCIWWV4AaOcc7AMwCdHZoU K2qnrsWLr9tQ+WiTjD656jE= =DurS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Popup suppression, et. al.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 21 December 2003 06:45 am, David Baron wrote: Anyone know of any popup surpressors that will work with Konquerer. (Anything short of hand entering all the ISPs into shorewall's files which might not be so effective since these guys no how to always fake and change them.) Also, I have both Shorewall and Webmin-shorewall running. What does the webmin add? webmin-shorewall is a plugin for webmin so you can configure shorewall through it. As for pop up suppersors for Konq, I don't know of any as I use Mozilla Firebird -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/5ay06i+npmQve9oRApIgAJ9Xcv1lzVE3P3/97PK7NeqzhJSZKwCgq4eB EZe5meTl6naiKIkcHHY7SrY= =RJVk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Filesystem Mounted On The Wrong Mount Points
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If I drop out of X (how do you kill X once it is going?) and make temp folders and start moving stuff around, can I just rearrange everything (while making the appropriate changes in FSTAB)? Or can I just change FSTAB and reboot and everything is miraculously where it should be? The reason that this is a problem is because / is on a 3GB partition, / var/www is on a 27GB partition and home is on a 67GB partition (amazingly /boot is where it should be, on a 68MB ext3 partition) No one partition is above 1GB in usage (that would be /). What I want to do is put /var/www on the 3GB partition, / on the 67GB partition and /home on the 27GB partition. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/5ble6i+npmQve9oRArzvAJ9cnQkipVHGqB0kFayLzlISjuAIvQCgngug webM+2phMyxbtjwrtQqOLUo= =hcmo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache::mp3 questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 21 December 2003 01:46 pm, CiAsA S'Nuey Boark wrote: On Sunday December 21 2003 01:50 pm, Nori Heikkinen wrote: yeah, i did, and this makes it segfault now: /etc/init.d/apache: line 70: 26774 Segmentation fault start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile $PIDFILE --exec $DAEMON failed weird! what's up with that?? Thats weird, I'm running testing/unstable here with everything installed via apt-get and it works just fine. snip Ditto. - -- The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/5fnu6i+npmQve9oRAgElAKCPqFgCJgJWnhAh5LUCjYBo7txS7QCfahsI 090Vqd5ctTBGDOVEn5hn1cM= =3rxd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filesystem Mounted On The Wrong Mount Points
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 21 December 2003 01:49 pm, GCS wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 07:48:34PM -, Martin J Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does actually as xdm or whatever is controlling X... xdm starts up X and when you kill xdm it kills X Done it myself on my machine... ;) Then you should be right. :-) I just remember doing this does not kill your current X session. I am wrong then. Still, we do not know if he uses ?dm or not (then you have to insult xinit, or press ctrl+alt+backspace). Cheers, GCS Sorry, I didn't think that would matter. I use KDM. - -- The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/5gew6i+npmQve9oRAumTAJwNShERIz6pCX7O0H2dcL4axvKPFwCgiXBg HFyANhY5QgP3tAsnue8G7cg= =l3E/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to use external router?
On Saturday 20 December 2003 10:26 am, Jeff Waltermire wrote: Greetings All, I am coming to Debian after using SUSE for a couple of years because I want to easily update packages. I am very used to the YAST program to help setup things. I have a cable modem and a D-Link 614+ router that work fine in SUSE and WinXP. I would like to use that on my Debian Box but how do I set up Debian to use my gateway of 192.168.0.1 (D-link router)? Where do I setup that my eth0 as being 192.168.0.6/255.255.255.0 on my LAN? Sorry for such newbie questions. I have poked around the /etc/ directory and even ran an ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.6 netmask 255.255.255.0 -up at a root command prompt but it returned something like ifconfig command not recognized. Any help is much appreciated. Jeff I pretty much use DHCP even though I have an external router as well. I find that to be the easiest solution to home networking. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question
On Saturday 20 December 2003 07:42 pm, Carl Fink wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 07:02:22PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I run Windows 98 inside Linex, so when I shut down Windows I'm still running Linex? Almost. You can do that with LinUX, using commercial products like VMWare and Win4Lin. To my limited knowledge, there's no Free Software way to do it at this time. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com What's the point, though? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86Config for ATI Radeon 9000
snip Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: Okay, so after some googling and help I've installed alien, discover, xserver-common and x-window-system-core, used apt pinning to get XFree86 4.3 and re-ran xf86config 'startx' still fails as does 'kdm' What can I do? snip As long as startx fails (X fails to start), kdm will fail. Run startx 2errorlog.txt and then look in errorlog.txt for any lines that begin with (EE). That's most likely the culprit. -- Kent snip Thanks, I'll report back tomorrow (I'm on my way to bed right now) with the results. Reporting back as promised. As you can see its saying it can't find any compatible drivers for my Radeon. Also, I removed xserver-common and xserver-xfree86 and installed them from the experimental tree and discover reported that it couldn't find any xservers for my particular card (the attached error.log is from after installing from the experimental tree). It says that driver version 1.1 is installed (or is it 1.3?) and that 1.5 is needed. :( error.log Description: Binary data
Re: XF86Config for ATI Radeon 9000
- Original Message - From: Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Reporting back as promised. As you can see its saying it can't find any compatible drivers for my Radeon. Also, I removed xserver-common and xserver-xfree86 and installed them from the experimental tree and discover reported that it couldn't find any xservers for my particular card (the attached error.log is from after installing from the experimental tree). It says that driver version 1.1 is installed (or is it 1.3?) and that 1.5 is needed. :( Well, my xserver is now up and running, but I am now having problems with kdm. :( Oh well, at least I've made some progress, thanks! *ponders printing off these emails* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XF86Config for ATI Radeon 9000
Okay, so after some googling and help I've installed alien, discover, xserver-common and x-window-system-core, used apt pinning to get XFree86 4.3 and re-ran xf86config 'startx' still fails as does 'kdm' What can I do? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86Config for ATI Radeon 9000
- Original Message - From: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: Re: XF86Config for ATI Radeon 9000 Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: Okay, so after some googling and help I've installed alien, discover, xserver-common and x-window-system-core, used apt pinning to get XFree86 4.3 and re-ran xf86config 'startx' still fails as does 'kdm' What can I do? As long as startx fails (X fails to start), kdm will fail. Run startx 2errorlog.txt and then look in errorlog.txt for any lines that begin with (EE). That's most likely the culprit. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, I'll report back tomorrow (I'm on my way to bed right now) with the results. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks
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Re: Woody to sid to Woody Dependency Hell
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:17:36 -0800 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 11:15:45PM -0500, JOSEPH A NAGY JR wrote: --Hey guys, I'm writing this from within lynx because I tried upgrading to sid via your suggestions, but I met dependency hell and couldn't restart X. So I tried going back to woody, but I'm still having problems getting X and KDE properly installed. My biggest problem is xlibsmesa3, any suggestions? Don't fear the penguin! Your best bet is to work out the dependancies going to sid. Figure out what the replacements for things are along the way. If libc got upgraded along the way successfully (and it's likely it did), it will be *way* easier to work it out to sid than to try to back out to woody now. I just re-installed the base woody system. It wasn't worth it (for me) to work for HOURS on figuring out all the dependencies. The only real problem I had was with xlibmesa3. I kept getting an error message (which I was going to type out in an email message, but I botched that up and lost what I wrote and just said screw it) about the process getting a signal (broken pipe) and that the paste process had been killed by a signal (it was trying to replace a file that no longer existed on the system). This is why I HATE using binaries. Dependency hell. I've had much better luck installing from source (at least on my RH system). First (and last) time I tried installing from source on my deb system was a failure as well. -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I'm an idiot and will toast my boxen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks
I am sick and god damned fucking TIRED of all the SHIT I have to put up with just to get a system up and working. Install x to get A affect, but x won't install unless you have w, y, and z, and w, y, and z WILL NOT BE INSTALLED NO MATTER WHAT THE GODDAMNED FUCK YOU DO! You can take your peice of shit wannabe os and SUCK MY COCK. Every last one of you can fuck off. Don't bother replying on or off list. Good FUCKING BYE! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache authentication
Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote: snip OK, now we are getting somewhere, thanks to Joseph Glad I could be of help. :) In the users home dir I have a .htaccess file, I didn't do anything with that on. But for 'sites og pages' under /var/www/ I removed the .htaccess file and put the config in httpd.conf instead, and it worked like charm:) Everything under /www is owned by www-data, but if I change the rights with chmod 600, wich also was suggested, i didn't get access at all. But... If I want more sites/pages under /www to have authentication, how to do that? Can I do: Directory /var/www/na AuthType Basic AuthName By Invitation Only AuthUserFile /usr/local/apache/passwd/.htpasswd Require valid-user /directory Directory /var/www/test AuthType Basic AuthName Test site AuthUserFile /usr/local/apache/passwd/.htpasswd Require valid-user /directory That would be the easiest way, although I wouldn't point to the htpasswd command, just the password file that you created. Many thanks for help Anytime. :) -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED]Re: apache authentication
Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote: snip I think you have are right, I'll take a closer look at this one. I'we really learn a lot these days, playing around with apache. Thanks again Apache is the easiest (and best documented) program I've ever used. I'm glad I could help (even if in a small way) :) -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody to sid to Woody Dependency Hell
On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 20:43:06 -0800 (PST) nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JOSEPH A NAGY JR said: --Hey guys, I'm writing this from within lynx because I tried upgrading to sid via your suggestions, but I met dependency hell and couldn't restart X. So I tried going back to woody, but I'm still having problems getting X and KDE properly installed. My biggest problem is xlibsmesa3, any suggestions? Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I'm an idiot and will toast my boxen while I haven't attempted what you've done before..when I encounter such a problem(which I can't remember the last time I did). I usually purge the packages affected and reinstall them. in this case if it were my system I would remove something like xlibs, that should trigger a remove of most everything on the system that depends on X. then I would go through and purge the packages that were removed..something along the lines of Been there, done that. dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall | awk '{print $1}' | xargs dpkg --purge I'll do that. then apt-get clean, check to be sure your sources.list has only woody stuff, apt-get update and reinstall X. BE CAREFUL WITH THE ABOVE COMMAND. I reccomend running it without the last pipe to xargs first to be sure it shows the packages you want to purge. or purge them manually. I'll keep that last pipe to xargs. I've already lost my old Xconfig file and re-removing everything having to do with X again won't be a problem. If I can get this fixed w/o doing a clean install, I'll be happy. there may be an easier/faster way but for me, the above has always worked for me. You may want to backup your X config file. Thanks for the suggestion, hopefully it'll help nate -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I'm an idiot and will toast my boxen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE Not Upgrading
Mark L. Kahnt wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 21:49, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: snip Thank you thank you thank you! After messing around in dependency hell (and actually having KDE and KDM removed) I finally have KDE3! :) I look at upgrading, but it has the libvorbis0a package situation, which will remove too many applications I use far more frequently than I touch any aspect of KDE. As such, I'll hold off until that is fixed up... Well, the only program that got removed that I'll actually miss (sorta kinda) is the KOffice group of programs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrading to Sid Via Apt-Get
How does one go about doing so? When I do 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get dist-upgrade' or 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' or 'apt-get upgrade' it says there are no packages to update/upgrade. My sources list looks like this: # deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main deb http://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/debian/ stable main deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian stable main #deb http://people.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla ./ #deb http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.vpn-junkies.de/openoffice/ woody main contrib #deb http://gmonsters.sourceforge.net/debian ./ #non-free sources deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free deb http://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/debian/ stable main non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main non-free #deb http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian woody/bunk-1 main contrib non-free Is there anything I'm missing (other then mirrors.kernel.org)? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SOLVED]Re: Upgrading to Sid Via Apt-Get
Greg Madden wrote: snip Change stable to unstable. - -- Greg Madden -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+e0vkk7rtxKWZzGsRAr47AKCk4ML/qd72IAJQVKSraacPJ1ygxQCgnh/k SwXY7KAxg1P642+5CikG4Mk= =+kCm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thanks guys. Sorry for the dumb question. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache authentication
Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote: Hi I'm trying to set up a site under my main site with auth, but can get it working. What I have done is: htpasswd -c /usr/local/apache/passwd/passwords username Okay chown root.nogroup /usr/local/apache/passwd/passwords I create the file as root and leave it's ownership status alone. chmod 640 /usr/local/apache/passwd/passwords I also don't chmod any differently then the default. I have also tried with the password file named .htpasswd, but the result is the same. I don't use .htaccess as it causes apache to take a performance hit (read the apache manual for more about that) and for the access file: AuthType Basic AuthName By Invitation Only AuthUserFile /usr/local/apache/passwd/passwords Require user username Directory /www/mc-luug/cgi-bin/awstats/ AuthType Basic AuthName AW Stats AuthUserFile /etc/apache/passwords/awstats Require valid-user /Directory Works consistantly. I have almost the same config for users home dir, and thats working fine. The only difference is that I use Require valid-user insted of the config above. Can anyone pls help? Trash the pw file, create a new one, leave it alone, then just use Require valid-user If need be, keep a seperate pw file for the By invite Only and your other protected dir. I'm running debain 2.4.20 and apache 1.3.27-0.1 /ernst -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Check the update from Microsoft.
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 07:24:41PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Colin Watson wrote: snip While I appreciate that you have an axe you want to grind here, that's totally irrelevant in this case. Wouldn't that mean I have something against someone? You clearly wanted to get in your comment about the allowing-non-subscribed-addresses-to-post policy, but that is entirely irrelevant to this thread (which is not about spam being delivered through the list, but about spam being delivered independently to a group of addresses harvested from the list). I interpret that as axe-grinding. Cheers, I now point to the piece of spam that recently came through the list as my justification. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Finally - Your Own Low Cost Teleconferencing Service!
Barry Rab wrote: Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Conference Service wrote: snip Okay, this is just bad, folks. And I was flamed for Re-spamming the list with the spam I received from the list. Hmph! Yes, directly from debian-user. I am getting spam. Certainly I have not received any spam from kde-linux or my local lug , so maybe it I don't get spam from any list except the Debian ones (this same spam hit debian-boot too) should be dealt with more vigorously. I agree. Like disallowing non-subscribed addresses from posting. About 2 weeks ago I received a klez type virus wth the sender as debian-user etc., so how would I go about filtering that? procmail? My 2 cents worth. Barry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with Apt-Get
I'm having problems with updating the package list from mirrors.kernel.org (apt-get says connection times out). Is this a known problem or am I just one of the (un)lucky few who this happens to? Here's a partial output from apt-get (the other sites I was able to update the lists just fine) Err ftp://mirrors.kernel.org stable/non-free Packages Could not connect to mirrors.kernel.org:21 (204.152.189.120), connection timed out Err ftp://mirrors.kernel.org stable/non-free Release Could not connect to mirrors.kernel.org:21 (204.152.189.120), connection timed out Failed to fetch ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages Could not connect to mirrors.kernel.org:21 (204.152.189.120), connection timed out Failed to fetch ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Release Could not connect to mirrors.kernel.org:21 (204.152.189.120), connection timed out Failed to fetch ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages Could not connect to mirrors.kernel.org:21 (204.152.189.120), connection timed out Failed to fetch ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Release Could not connect to mirrors.kernel.org:21 (204.152.189.120), connection timed out Failed to fetch ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/Packages Could not connect to mirrors.kernel.org:21 (204.152.189.120), connection timed out Failed to fetch ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/Release Could not connect to mirrors.kernel.org:21 (204.152.189.120), connection timed out Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with Apt-Get
Colin Ellis wrote: Either your internet connection is flakey, or the mirror was down. IF it's down, this is two days in a row that it's been down. Can someone else verify the status of this particular mirror? Try again at a different time and get onto your isp if this continues. This was the different time. I think I'll do a tracerout first, then call my ISP. Regards, Colin Ellis Solution City Ltd http://www.solution-city.com snip -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with Apt-Get
Nicolas Kratz wrote: man ping man traceroute Sometimes, a server just happens to be down. www.trace-route.org Called my ISP, they can't ping or traceroute the site either. Did a whois now am going to contact them. I know sometimes a server just happens to be down, but 2 days in a row is a bit much. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with Apt-Get
Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 04:39:51PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: snip Perhaps one day they'll improve upon FTP. HTTP improved upon FTP long ago. The fact that the name hasn't been changed doesn't affect this. (I do this for a living.) Cheers, Then what purpose does the continued use of FTP serve? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE Not Upgrading
I added deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian stable main to my apt sources.list so I can upgrade to KDE 3.1.1. Ran apt-get update to make sure everything was in order (had to run it a few times to run out a few duplicate entries), getting a successful update message. So I run 'apt-get upgrade' to (finally) upgrade to the latest KDE (my mouth is drooling for the new KDE, I've been waiting to use it since it was released). Everything looks like it's going to be okay. 3 upgrades (a bit small, I admit), with a list of files being held back (no reason given). Once the three packages are updated, I run apt-get upgrade again. Again I'm told that a group of files (list at end) are being held back and 45 packages weren't upgraded! Am I doing something wrong? Here is the list of packages that are being held back: jan-jr-ent:~# apt-get upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages have been kept back ark artsbuilder karm kate kcalc kcharselect kcoloredit kcron kdebase kdepasswd kdepim-libs kdf kdict kdm kedit kfind kghostview khexedit kiconedit kit kjots kmail kmix knewsticker knode knotes konqueror konsole korganizer korn kpackage kpaint kruler kscreensaver kshisen ksirc ksnapshot ksysv ktimer kuser kview libxine0 mpeglib noatun secpolicy 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 45 not upgraded. jan-jr-ent:~# There is no difference in messages if I run from tty1-6 or from konsole as su - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE Not Upgrading
nate wrote: snip in situations like this, if theres a package I want, and it doesn't upgrade from running apt-get upgrade, I usually call it via install e.g. apt-get install ark artsbuilder karm ..etc.. you probably only have to do a couple, chances are that the packages depend on some common thing that for some reason the system doesn't want to install by itself. but the specific instruction to install a specific package, in my experience, will trigger the system to do so. Be careful, take a look at what it will install, I reccmend doing an apt-get -s first, to simulate what will be installed. nate Thank you thank you thank you! After messing around in dependency hell (and actually having KDE and KDM removed) I finally have KDE3! :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SOLVED]Re: Printers via SMB?
Mike M wrote: snip I used deselect and loaded stuff related to cups (search on cup like you would in vi /cupCR; other have given methods using apt-cache Then I used KDE-Control Center-System-Printing Manager; don't remember all the steps but it involved using the wizard; I kept playing with cups until the SMB option showed up (I loaded the cups client but not the server :-) at first). I am setting up an old sparc to run Samba. Then I'll move the printer from the W98 machine to the sparc. Then we'll see if I can figure out how to print from both Debian and W98. No KDE wizards on the sparc :-). I hoping that Mr. O'Reilly will be helpful then. Don't know if you have KDE control center available. If you do, maybe it will help you limp through the process like it helped me. There were several print drivers available for my printer (Epson Color 850). I found that a little confusing. I tried each of them and found the one I liked the best. HTH a little, Thank you everyone for your help in this matter. The above solution worked once I figured out how to access the wizard (which, oddly enough, I didn't have access to until I upgraded to KDE3.1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Check the update from Microsoft.
Colin Ellis wrote: Who sent this and what the hell does it have to do with debian??!! Maybe we need a stronger anti-spam list to stop this crap appearing on the list?! Colin http://www.solution-city.com snip It's called not letting non-subscribed persons post to the list. -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Check the update from Microsoft.
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: A list manager that hides subscriber's addresses would be nice. Umm... Wouldn't that make offlist replies impossible? If you want an offlist reply, you can set the reply-to to your addy. Otherwise all replies should go to list. Also, disallow non-subscribers from posting. -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Check the update from Microsoft.
Jeremy Gaddis wrote: -Original Message- From: Joseph A Nagy Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Check the update from Microsoft. snip It's called not letting non-subscribed persons post to the list. Then you wouldn't be able to receive mail from people like me, who are subscribed to this list from an address different than my From: address, and I know how much that would hurt your feelings. :) To be honest, I think the benefits (no spam from over the list) out weight any other consideration. Why should I pay for a choice you make? If you really want two different addy's for sending/recieving mail to/from this (and other) lists, perhaps you could subscribe with both and set one to no email? -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Check the update from Microsoft.
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 04:35:40PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Colin Ellis wrote: Who sent this and what the hell does it have to do with debian??!! Maybe we need a stronger anti-spam list to stop this crap appearing on the list?! It's called not letting non-subscribed persons post to the list. While I appreciate that you have an axe you want to grind here, that's totally irrelevant in this case. snip Wouldn't that mean I have something against someone? -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Check the update from Microsoft.
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 05:45:14PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: A list manager that hides subscriber's addresses would be nice. Umm... Wouldn't that make offlist replies impossible? If you want an offlist reply, you can set the reply-to to your addy. Otherwise all replies should go to list. I disagree. Replies should go where the person sending the reply wants them to go, with consideration for any request which may be made by the poster of the message being replied to. Say, for I disagree to the first and agree with the latter. First, part of the OSS movement (as I see it) is the sharing of knowledge. What good is a mailing list if knowledge isn't shared with the community. I might not have the same problem as you this very day, but sometime down the road you might have a similar problem and what worked for me might be worth looking into. If you're like me, you delete all discussions except the ones you are truly interested in. This where the beautfy of mailing-list archives come in. Someone's bound to remember that a similar problem happened some time ago and can tell you so. Then you can fruitfully direct your search efforts in the right direction instead of wasting valuable time googling. instance, that you wanted to complain about my .sig - it may be a reply to a list posting, but it's completely off-topic and absolutely does not belong on the list. Secondly, I know how to copy someone's email (even if it means writing it down with pencil and paper) and composing an email directly to you. Those who don't are either stupid or lazy (or perhaps both). Also, disallow non-subscribers from posting. Again, I disagree. People who have problems with their debian systems should be able to obtain help without subjecting themselves to the hundreds of messages per day which are generated by this list. There is the digested version of this mailing list, and I'm sure you could elect to totally not receive mail at all. I'm sure this would be an easy feature to implement, if I knew how to code I'd help with such a project. -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Check the update from Microsoft.
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:18:14PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Dave Sherohman wrote: I disagree. Replies should go where the person sending the reply wants them to go, with consideration for any request which may be made by the poster of the message being replied to. Say, for I disagree to the first and agree with the latter. First, part of the OSS movement (as I see it) is the sharing of knowledge. What good is a mailing list if knowledge isn't shared with the community. An offlist reply does not necessarily mean that knowledge isn't being shared. I've already given two examples of this: Comments on a poster's .sig and organizing a side project which is not directly I talked about that later on in my previous response. related to the list. Not all replies to list messages are relevant to the list. I've even observed a handful of mildly embarrassing incidents where personal replies were unintentionally sent to lists. I agree. I've done that myself several times. Then there is also the time-honored usenet practice of requesting that all replies be directed to the original poster, who will then post a summary of the replies at a later date. I'd rather have a discussion go on about the different methods so I can choose one or two (or more) methods to follow (in whatever order I choose) and post follow ups (with problems I encoutner) as I go along. If you're like me, you delete all discussions except the ones you are truly interested in. This where the beautfy of mailing-list archives come in. Someone's bound to remember that a similar problem happened some time ago and can tell you so. No argument there. I just trust people to be able to judge for themselves which responses should be public and which should be private. It appears that you do not. Some people feel that they should be the only one's to know the solution to their problem. They are entitled to that. If they don't like the mailing list, there is always irc.debian.org #debian instance, that you wanted to complain about my .sig - it may be a reply to a list posting, but it's completely off-topic and absolutely does not belong on the list. Secondly, I know how to copy someone's email (even if it means writing it down with pencil and paper) and composing an email directly to you. Those who don't are either stupid or lazy (or perhaps both). Don't forget that what I'm calling a Bad Idea here is the suggestion that the list manager remove sender addresses from list messages. If it does so, you can't copy someone's email address and send a direct reply because it is no longer present to be copied. Again, if you want a private reply, set your reply-to for your email addy. I'm sure you can remove the sender without touching the reply-to. Also, disallow non-subscribers from posting. Again, I disagree. People who have problems with their debian systems should be able to obtain help without subjecting themselves to the hundreds of messages per day which are generated by this list. There is the digested version of this mailing list, and I'm sure you could elect to totally not receive mail at all. I'm sure this would be an easy feature to implement, if I knew how to code I'd help with such a project. Digests reduce the number of messages received, but do not make it any easier to find the one or two replies to your question that may or may not exist within the hundreds of total posts to the list. (Actually, I suspect they would make it harder, since threading generally does not work with digests.) I wouldn't know as I don't ever subscribe to digests. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Grip Causing System Lockup
Hi All, I've recently been having problems where if grip encounters a particular nasty track, it will totally slow down the computer but continue ripping (albeit at 0.1x). Clicking repeatedly on abort rip (or abort rip + encode (the encoding process dies just fine)) seems to have no effect and I usually have to resort to rebooting the whole system. Is this a known issue with Grip? BTW, running grip 3.0.0 from KDE 2.2.2 under Debian Woody 3.0r0 -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I am an idiot and will toast my boxen. http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD/CDRW drives support
Nick Lidakis wrote: Matj Hausenblas wrote: Hello List, I would like to know, if in general nowadays the DVD/CDRW drives on laptops are supported by cdrecord and if getting them to work is the same as getting a standard drive to work on a desktop PC. (I mean ide-scsi emulation, or even better true scsi). Thanks Matej Most laptop combo drives (i.e. DVD-Rom/CD-R/W) are ide devices, selecting scsi emulation in the the kernel config (or loading the modules) is usually all that is needed to get this working. My Thinkpad X23 with a attached media slice and combo dvd-rom cr-r/w works fine. Nick Lidakis My CD-RW is either completely unsupported, or running hdd (my cd-rw) = ide-scsi didn't work. -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grip Causing System Lockup
Nicos Gollan wrote: On Tuesday 18 March 2003 23:23, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Hi All, I've recently been having problems where if grip encounters a particular nasty track, it will totally slow down the computer but continue ripping (albeit at 0.1x). Clicking repeatedly on abort rip (or abort rip + encode (the encoding process dies just fine)) seems to have no effect and I usually have to resort to rebooting the whole system. Is this a known issue with Grip? Could it be that you're trying to rip a defective (copy-protected) disc? The slowdown indicates that something is probably screwing up the drive. Well, one disc is in absolute pristine condition. No scratches, mars, or known copy-protection (it was pressed in 1994), the other plays very well, pressed in 1997. The other cd has known problems on one of the tracks, but that's it (although it locks up the instant I start ripping). It could also be an old or badly pressed disc. I got some old discs that will play fine oin some players and fail at a certain position in others. Poo. I was hoping it was a problem with GRIP. These happen to be CD's I consider 'vital' to my collection (either for depth of music for a track or two or just sheer mind-blowing awesomeness of the entire compilation) -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grip Causing System Lockup
nate wrote: Joseph A Nagy Jr said: snip probably not so much a grip problem as an I/O problem. Any way to check the kernel logs on the machine? I'm thinkin they are getting flooded with I/O errors, in which case there's not a whole lot you can do, besides try not to use discs that generate such errors. Sometimes a process that is recieving these errors can be killed, othertimes it cannot. Really depends. but the symtoms you describe are in my experience similar to generic I/O errors which can be triggered by most any program accessing the hardware. nate That is what I was fearing. :( -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD/CDRW drives support
Jack Pistachio wrote: What does cdrecord -scanbus give you? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su - Password: jan-jr-ent:~# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 J?rg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. jan-jr-ent:~# Make sure that the ide-cd modules isn't already controlling that drive. A way to prevent this is to create a file ide-cd in /etc/modutils with the following line: options ide-cd ignore=hdd -jackp snip Made the file, added the line, ran cdrecord -scanbus again, same result. -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD/CDRW drives support
Jack Pistachio wrote: Er, yes. The file /etc/modutils/ide-cd passes the parameters to the module when it is loaded. Try the following now (per the CD-Writing-HOWTO), add the following lines to /etc/modules/actions: pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd Then I suggest using modconf to unload: /kernel/drivers/ide ide-cd Not loaded. and then make sure the following are loaded: /kernel/drivers/scsi/ sg Already loaded /kernel/drivers/scsi/ sr_mod Not an option /kernel/drivers/scsi/ ide-scsi Installing module ide-scsi. If the device isn't there, or isn't configured correctly, this could cause your system to pause for up to a minute. modprobe: Can't locate module ide-cd modprobe: pre-install ide-scsi failed modprobe: insmod ide-scsi failed Installation failed. Please press ENTER when you are ready to continue. Trying again with the first debian install cd in the drive. /kernel/drivers/scsi/ scsi_mod Not an option, either. http://jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org/~janjrent/images/scsi-module-options.png Right now, I feel as if I did something seriously wrong. Would it help to know I installed the bf2.4 kernel (wanted ext3 fs) That should (re)load the needed modules and hopefully the drive will come up as scsi emulated on /dev/scd0. Try cdrecord -scanbus again. Any other cdrom-like drives (besides hdd) will still be using the ide-cd module unless you exclude them in the options line also. snip Now that I know what to do, it's a matter of getting it done. I have glanced at (and have bookmarked) the CD-Writing-HowTo, but it doesn't help that the document is so large (and rather confusing in the beginning). -- http://mc-luug.homelinux.org MC-LUUG Home Page http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I need a little help
Didier Caamano wrote: Greetings to all: I was wondering how I can configure apache 1.3 to not allow visitors to view the source code of the page when they click on View -Source Is there any option in apache to do that?, any hint will be appretiated. Didier. snip Trying to prevent people from viewing your source code is as effective as asking Bill Gates to put out a product that works. It does no good and in the end only frustrates you and the end user. If you are that desperate though to prevent people from viewing your source, there are several companies claiming to encrypt your source code, but it takes no verification for someone to go to that same site and decrypt it. If you're that desperate to keep your source private, don't post it on the www. -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I am an idiot and will toast my boxen. http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I need a little help
Didier Caamano wrote: Is not that I don't want to share or soimething like that, is just I have some scripts that need to be part of the web page code but they compromise in some ways the security of the site and the privacy of those who are part/members of the organization. If it compromises security so much that you're concerned, then perhaps there is another way to do what that script is doing. As a result, I was wondering how could I hide the code, or the part of the code that I don't want my visitors to see. I see now that there is no way, or at least with apache. But I still need to hide at least those path for the scripts that could compromise the site. I'd go about finding some other way to do what ever the script is doing. It has NOTHING to do with Apache. Any and all web servers send to the browser the complete source code of the web page (with SSI's changed into the values they need to be). Without knowing more about what it is exactly you're doing I can't help you much more then that. Sorry. By the way, thank very much to you guys for your answers. Have a nice day. Didier. snip You're welcome. -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I am an idiot and will toast my boxen. http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?
dave selby wrote: I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it appears not to be supported. I have been on the Gimp mailing list, they suggest I may need a .deb file to enable it because it is supported in standard Gimp. Having browsed through aptitude there are a lot of files related to GIF, and some legal stuff about not being able to compress images. Does anyone know which .deb to install to enable .GIF on Gimp, preferible in compress mode as well as de-compress. Dave I too am in need of such a plugin, but it was my understanding that the patent held by Unisys has expired. -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I am an idiot and will toast my boxen. http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?
Rick Pasotto wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 02:46:35PM +, dave selby wrote: I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it appears not to be supported. I have been on the Gimp mailing list, they suggest I may need a .deb file to enable it because it is supported in standard Gimp. Having browsed through aptitude there are a lot of files related to GIF, and some legal stuff about not being able to compress images. Does anyone know which .deb to install to enable .GIF on Gimp, preferible in compress mode as well as de-compress. gimp1.2-nonfree Description: GIF support for the GNU Image Manipulation Program This package includes GIF support for The GNU Image Manipulation Program. These files are not freely available; their use is disallowed by the UNISYS patent on LZW compression. Use at your own legal risk. jan-jr-ent:~# apt-cache search gimp1.2-nonfree jan-jr-ent:~# -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I am an idiot and will toast my boxen. http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?
Paul Johnson wrote: snip On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 02:46:35PM +, dave selby wrote: I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it appears not to be supported. gimp1.3-nonfree gimp1.2-nonfree snip Neither package was found apt-cache search gimp1.3-nonfree or apt-cache search gimp1.2-nonfree -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I am an idiot and will toast my boxen. http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?
Shri Shrikumar wrote: snip Check your /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure that it says something like deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian yourdist main contrib non-free the non-free part has to be there for you to be able to download this package. HTH, snip Doh. Is it possible to have both non-free and free listed? Would I have to have multiple entries for each source? -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I am an idiot and will toast my boxen. http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?
dave selby wrote: On Sunday 16 March 2003 15:29, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: dave selby wrote: I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it appears not to be supported. I have been on the Gimp mailing list, they suggest I may need a .deb file to enable it because it is supported in standard Gimp. Having browsed through aptitude there are a lot of files related to GIF, and some legal stuff about not being able to compress images. Does anyone know which .deb to install to enable .GIF on Gimp, preferible in compress mode as well as de-compress. Dave I too am in need of such a plugin, but it was my understanding that the patent held by Unisys has expired. At least we know where to get a gimp with .GIF now !! For sure! Do you have any more info about the patent, I want to use .GIF for commercial work but am wary. I had heard this on /. a while back, but nothing since. Believe it or not the Unisys site doesn't have much on the patent. The one article they do have is outdated (doubly so, I tried emailing the article's author but that was returned via the Postmaster). I can certainly see how it'd be in Unisys's favor to spread FUD about it's patent. I just deal without using GIF's (and pray for the day when a plug-in for MNG is made for GIMP). Dave -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I am an idiot and will toast my boxen. http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?
Bob Proulx wrote: I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it appears not to be supported. I too am in need of such a plugin, but it was my understanding that the patent held by Unisys has expired. Negative. At least not yet[1]. The patent does not expire until at least June 2003. Looking at my calendar watch I see it is only March. And there may be other submarine patents in the portfolio which will only be published once this one is expired. Patience. Bob [1] http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US04558302__ Hrm. So when will the MNG plugin for Gimp be ready again? -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I am an idiot and will toast my boxen. http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Printers via SMB?
Domain=[THE_MATRIX] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager] Sharename Type Comment - --- IPC$ IPC Remote IPC print$ Disk Printer Drivers SharedDocs Disk C Disk D Disk Printer2 Printer Canon Bubble-Jet BJC-2100 PrinterPrinter EPSON Stylus Photo 785EPX I'd like to be able to use the Epson from my computer, but I haven't a clue on how to mount a printer. Do I point it to /dev/lpd or something? TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printers via SMB?
Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 10:21:14AM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: I'd like to be able to use the Epson from my computer, but I haven't a clue on how to mount a printer. Take a look at CUPS. jan-jr-ent:~# CUPS su: CUPS: command not found jan-jr-ent:~# man cups No manual entry for cups jan-jr-ent:~# apt-get install cups Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package cups has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list E: Package cups has no installation candidate jan-jr-ent:~# -- Let me meddle not in the affairs of Linuxen For I am an idiot and will toast my boxen. http://www.hsv-hotspots.com/ Your hotspot for Wireless in HSV, AL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange messages
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Joseph A Nagy Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.03.14.0457 +0100]: Cron is an automated program manager, kind of like Windows Task Scheduler. pedanticexcept it's reliable and flexible/pedantic I stand corrected. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache not serving up .shtml properly
Stephen Cormier wrote: # # To use server-parsed HTML files # AddType text/html .shtml AddHandler server-parsed .shtml The above is the only relevant bit from the Apache config I could find regarding server-parsed html files. Did you uncomment the line: LoadModule includes_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_include.so to load the includes module and then restart apache. There I go again showing my assumptions. I'm used to that being the default. Lemme go check. Yeah, it was commented out. I'm so used to running Apache that I compile from source so I'm not really used to messing with the DSO section of the server config (I don't really like using the binaries as they stick Apache in /etc/apache, /var/www and every where else, where as with the source everything is in /usr/local/apache (and yes, I'd be running from source atm, but I can't figure out why I can't compile Apache, I get the weirdest error's)) Again, thanks for the heads up. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE vs. Gnome
GBV wrote: Hi all, I prefer KDE, Gnome seens obsolete, and using gtk lib i´m able to use Gnome appz on KDE with no problems at all, My objective with this message is to gather advantages and disvantages of this two great softwares.. Post your user and developer experience... thks... Guilherme Viebig KDE: Friendly interface. Multiple virtual desktops (which are easy to use and configure). Gnome: Interface isn't so friendly. 4 virtual desktops which aren't as easy to manage or configure. Task bar featues are lacking. Too many buttons (both the task bar and another app bar on the desktop). GTK is the one good thing to come from Gnome IMO. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE vs. Gnome
Ross Burton wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 15:26, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Gnome: Interface isn't so friendly. 4 virtual desktops which aren't as easy to manage or configure. Task bar featues are lacking. Too many buttons (both the task bar and another app bar on the desktop). Excuse me? I have 6 virtual desktops in GNOME 2. Define features are lacking, and the default panels (task bars) have two menu entries, and only ~2 launchers. I don't see that as being too many. I suggest you install both, try both, and see what you think. Ross I have tried both. I actually started out my Linux exp on RH6.2 with GNOME and KDE (and occassionaly still log into Gnome just for the hell of it). Even with Gnome2, I find KDE to be the best of the two DE's. I find KDE much easier to use. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XMMS and CD Audio Broken
Lonnie Sutton wrote: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 69616 invoked by uid 0); 12 Mar 2003 13:38:57 - Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.uswest.net) (63.226.138.1) by mpls-mailin-01.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 13:38:57 - Received: (qmail 34037 invoked by uid 0); 12 Mar 2003 13:38:57 - Received: from unknown (HELO murphy.debian.org) (65.125.64.134) by mail1.uswest.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 13:38:56 - Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id C5FD21FD0D; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:14:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.netspeed.com.au (mail.netspeed.com.au [203.31.48.12]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D431F4A0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 06:54:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from [203.33.171.57] by mail.light.net.au (NTMail 5.06.0016/NU0474.00.5bf8a63e) with ESMTP id sbkymcaa for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:54:12 +1100 Received: from thebox.bloog.ddts.net ([192.168.0.2]) by leserver.bloog.ddts.net with esmtp (Cipher TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18t3Xy-0002O7-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:33:18 +1100 Received: from rob by thebox.bloog.ddts.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18t3Xx-0007cY-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:33:17 +1100 Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:14:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:33:17 +1100 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XMMS and CD Audio Broken Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: U X-UIDL: 1047476337.69622.7372.mpls-mailin-01.inet.qwest.net Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=application/pgp-signature; boundary=WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=4.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] archive/latest/268165 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 07:33:01PM -0800, Lonnie Sutton wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:52:03PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: Cd playing rpgorams like xmms-cdread and grip just ask the CD drive to play an audio CD, and they then start blitting the digital stream (or send analog audio directly) down a special cable to the sound card. Have you connected your cd drive to your soundcard? I have now, thanks, he says with a red face. As I mentioned in earlier replies, though the Gnome CD player, gtcd, now works OK, XMMS still does not see the audio CD. Since XMMS played audio CD's just fine using the ATAPI CD-R (which still shows up in dmesg, though the laser died), I have obviously gotten something simple screwed up. I'll keep trying. Oh, ok...Stupid question, but have you told xmms-cdread to use your other CD drive? You can set this in the preferences-audio i/o-input-cdaudio-player section. I'm the one asking the stupid questions in this thread. ;-) I have had the device set as /dev/cdrom and the ls -l /dev/cdrom shows: lrwxrwxrwx1 root audio 4 Mar 8 14:21 /dev/cdrom - scd0 the ls -l /dev/scd0 reports: brwxrwxr-x1 root cdburn11, 0 Jun 13 2001 /dev/scd0 There you can see where my confusion arises. I do not have an ATAPI device in the system anymore. It is an all SCSI system, with the CD burner/audio/data reader all the same device. dmesg reports the device as follows: Vendor: YAMAHAModel: CRW8824S Rev: 1.00 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 Also, I have the sg module installed, and lsmod reports it as follows: sg 14960 0 so I note that under the Used column in the lsmod report that sg is reported with 0 use? ls -l /dev/sg0 reports: crw-rw1 root cdburn21, 0 Jun 13 2001 /dev/sg0 The group cdburn comes from the suggestion of the gcombust author for being enabling using gcombust as user rather than root. I still don't have everything set up correctly to permit me to burn. I changed the groups and permissions as he suggested, but still no joy as far as burning or cd playing. I haven't tried either of the above suggestions yet, but I did try to burn a CD from the command line, unsuccessfully. Not only was it an unsuccessful attempt, but I locked up my machine hard. First time I have done that in a long time. cdrecord started out OK,