Re: Meaning of letters in aptitude output not found with ? inside aptitude

2011-11-14 Thread M-L
 On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:45:14 +0200 Andrei POPESCU
 andreimpope...@gmail.com suggested this:

On Du, 13 nov 11, 17:40:12, Harry Putnam wrote:
 
 I could still use a little push though... I've scanned thru 3977
 lines and according to my editor emacs, I am only 50% thru the
 document.
 
 So far and have not found it.  I see the uppercase A shown in many
 places but so far no description of what it means I am just
 skimming though so could have missed it and I'm not clear through
 yet.
 
 I hope you didn't mean these sections:
 
  Figure 2.9. Values of the ``current state'' flag
 
   [...]
 
  Figure 2.10. Values of the ``action'' flag
   [...]
 
 Uppercase `A' is not amongst those listed there.
 
 If you know roughly where the info may be found..., something like
 near the end.. midway or the like please let me know.

Oh, sorry should have given you a few hints, since it's quite hidden: 
see chapter 2 aptitude reference guide, section Managing packages, 
sub-section Accessing package information, specifically the
paragraph explaining the 'webmin' example (line 1856, 23%).

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Thank you Andrei - for the accurate and succinct answer to this and
taking the time to find it and make it so.

I certainly appreciate it very much and am probably not the only one.

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Re: [SOLVED] need help with clamav

2011-05-26 Thread M-L
On Thu, 26 May 2011 00:55:57 + (UTC)
Juan R. de Silva juan.r.d.si...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Camaleón, you were the only one to reply. And this puzzles me
 BTW. I doubt people do not use clamav in Debian. Is there anything
 wrong with my posting. I'm new to Debian community and willing to
 learn. :-)

Not certain this needs a reply but just in case. A newbie might think
they are being left out in the cold. However being a newbie you may not
yet have the feeling of Debian and are offended unreasonably and
unjustifiably.

I've installed clamav on windows computers, on many occasions. But never
required it, nor installed it, for Debian or any other Linux flavour.
Other Linux users probably have the same experience as my own.

I thought you were putting it onto a personal computer, not a server
and just wanted to play with it. Having no experience with it in Linux,
was therefore unable, even to make a stupid suggestion.

Apologies for that, if they are required.

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Re: 'sensible-browser'

2007-07-27 Thread M-L
On Saturday 28 July 2007 13:57, Rick Pasotto shared this with us all:
--} The browser I have running all the time is seamonkey. How can I get
--} programs that want to use a browser open a seamonkey window instead of
--} firing up the gnome or kde browser?
--}
--} --
--} When in doubt. . . mumble.
--} Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net

In KDE go into Control Panel/KDE Components/File Associations/text/html and 
select Seamonkey and place it at the top of your list. Directly beneath it 
your second choice, beneath that your third choice.. etc., etc..

Hope that helps.
Charlie

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Re: dialup modem connection

2007-07-17 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 15:40, Mark Grieveson shared this with us all:
--} I decided to give up high speed internet, because it's a waste of money
--} and time.  So, now I have dial-up.  The last time I had dial-up was
--} when I used Corel Linux, and I had no problem setting that up.  Now,
--} however, I can't seem to get wvdial, or its frontend, gnome-ppp, to
--} work (aren't things supposed to get easier as time goes by?).
--}
--} I tried kppp, and did get it to connect, but only when run as root.  I
--} read kppp's help, and it said a bunch of stuff about noauth and
--} dip; so, my regular user is a member of both dialout and dip, and
--} I uncommented noauth in the kppp-options file (as instructed).  I
--} still can only connect via the root user.
--}
--} Trying to run kppp as regular user:
--}
--} [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kppp
--} bash: /usr/bin/kppp: Permission denied
--}
--} -rwsr-xr--, file owner root, file group dip.
--}
--} Trying to run wvdial:
--}
--} -- Don't know what to do!  Starting pppd and hoping for the best.
--} -- Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd.
--} -- Check permissions, or specify a PPPD Path option in wvdial.conf.
--}
--} It correctly pointed to /usr/sbin/pppd, which had the same permissions
--} as the kppp file above, that being:
--}
--} -rwsr-xr--, file owner root, file group dip.
--}
--} Should file group dip be given write access?
--}
--} All suggestions appreciated,
--}
--} Mark
--}
--} PS, switching back to dialup, just to hear that good ol' modem sound
--} again, is worth it.

Install pon

Then install pppconfig and run that as root

Then if you are already as user added to dip it will all just work.

I am still on dialup and about to move onto satellite broadband because there 
is no other broadband option. One of the joys of living in the bush.

Be well,
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Re: Notebook Battery

2007-07-17 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 19:19, koffiejunkie shared this with us all:
--} Is there anything I can do to improve this, or this battery just on the
--} way out?  I'm just bothered by the suddeness of this drop in battery
--} life - it's been at about an hour for a good six months now, and stayed
--} pretty stable.  Unless some of the cells just died.
--}
--} Thanks

If you're uncertain about the battery, I have resurrected a battery from a 
laptop by putting it in a plastic bag and into the freezer for about 4 - 5 
hours. then taking it out and recharging it fully. It came back to close 
enough to new and is still going strong.

But your mileage may vary, because a good deal depends on the battery and just 
how good it is, etc., etc.. The one I did was a Toshiba laptop battery from a 
lappy I had been given.

I have always found that to get the most out of the life of a laptop battery, 
you have to run it right out, something that, I think, the latest windows 
won't allow, till it just drops right out. This way there is no memory built 
up, but when the battery finally does (*) really die. It's dead for ever. As 
well you have to have a good filesystem like ext3 on the lappy, that will 
recover from this kind of crash, and of course, manually save everything for 
the last 3 minutes or so of battery life, and just play a game or something 
till it crashes, with everything else shut down. The battery will then last 
for years, or does in my case. I have to use laptops because we have solar 
power, and have to husband our power and use it frugally.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Computer freezes with linux-image-2.6.21-2

2007-07-13 Thread M-L
On Saturday 14 July 2007 00:22, Miguel J. Jiménez shared this with us all:
--} Hi, has anyone have experienced computer hangs while using kernel
--} 2.6.21-2 (debia testing)  My computer was fine until I installed
 it...

Seems fine here on my laptop with 2.6.21-2-686

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Re: Turning off the %^* scroll wheel

2007-06-22 Thread M-L
On Friday 22 June 2007 19:13, Jonathan Kaye shared this with us all:
--} Curt Howland wrote:
--}
--}  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
--}  Hash: SHA1
--} 
--}  Hi. Up to date Sid.
--} 
--}  Over this last week, something happened to the mouse interface.
--} 
--}  I have a laptop with a touchpad. For some reason, now there is
--}  a scroll wheel area on the right side of this touchpad, something I
--}  never turned on deliberately.
--} 
--}  There is an option in the KDE control panel to make the scroll wheel
--}  slow down, but nothing to turn it off.
--} 
--}  I would very much like to turn it the %^* off. Is there some hidden
--}  option I can select/unselect that I've been unable to find?
--} 
--}  Last week there was no scroll wheel.
--} 
--}  Curt-
--} 
--} Hi Curt,
--} The mouse/touchpad is controlled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Look for a
--} Section InputDevice and if you see something like this:
--}  Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
--} then comment it out. That should get rid of the scrollwheel behaviour.
--} Cheers,
--} Jonathan

I have the same behaviour and no option as above and have not yet discovered 
why this has suddenly appeared or how it may be stopped.

Started about 3 upgrades ago.

I'm still looking.

Be well,
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Re: how to configure users X setup?

2007-06-13 Thread M-L
Subject: Fwd: Re: how to configure users X setup?
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:13:27 +1000
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Subject: Re: how to configure users X setup?
Date: Wednesday 13 June 2007 15:42
From: Liam O'Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:29:25 +1000
M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]

 In much the same situation, on an old Toshiba laptop, 64 MB RAM and
 10 GB hard drive, Etch installed, using fluxbox window manager and I
 created an ~/.Xsession just as your example above. With is file the
 machine boots to XDM and when the user name and password are inserted
 appropriately, just keeps coming back to XDM login.

 So I have to kill the GUI and get in through CLI and remove the
 ~/.Xsession script and then restart with startx.

 So there must be something wrong, either with the scrip, or something
 the script interferes with? I wonder if it works for Zach?

 I had hoped that I would be able to get gkrellm and the Rox panel to
 run after fluxbox has started. This should possibly be able to be
 placed in the ~/.fluxbox/init script, but it won't happen. Mainly
 because even though I have googled extensively, and read the fluxbox
 wiki and all the documentation I could find, none had the answer.
 Created startup scrips and such, have not had any joy with any of
 these.

 I just thought that maybe the Debian way you described above might
 be the way to go.

Could you show us the contents of the ~/.Xsession file? The contents of
the file /etc/X11/Xsession.options could be relevant too.

Forwarded this to the machine in question to get those details.

Here is the ~/.Xsession file in question.

#!/bin/sh
#
# My creation .Xsession file
#
# To remove the cursor after a short break
unclutter -idle 1 
# To get up the Rox panel
rox -b=MyPanel 
# Have gkrellm working
gkrellm 
# Start Fluxbox, maybe it should be up top. Not according to Liam's example
exec /usr/bin/fluxbox 

Here is the /etc/X11/Xsession.options

# $Id: Xsession.options 189 2005-06-11 00:04:27Z branden $
#
# configuration options for /etc/X11/Xsession
# See Xsession.options(5) for an explanation of the available options.
allow-failsafe
allow-user-resources
allow-user-xsession
use-ssh-agent
use-session-dbus

Maybe you have a solution. It's not a big thing, because it's only a couple of 
mouse clicks and tab keystrokes to get the panel up. But I would have liked to 
get it running the way desired.

Charlie


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Re: how to configure users X setup?

2007-06-13 Thread M-L
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:47:56 +0100
Tom Furie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 05:04:14PM +, M-L wrote:
  
  #!/bin/sh
  #
  # My creation .Xsession file
  #
  # To remove the cursor after a short break
  unclutter -idle 1 
  # To get up the Rox panel
  rox -b=MyPanel 
  # Have gkrellm working
  gkrellm 
  # Start Fluxbox, maybe it should be up top. Not according to Liam's example
  exec /usr/bin/fluxbox 
 
 Try without the  in the above line.
 
 Cheers,
 Tom
 
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Brilliant Tom, but absobloominlootly brilliant - that did it, works like a 
treat.

Thank you very much.

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Re: how to configure users X setup?

2007-06-13 Thread M-L
On Thursday 14 June 2007 09:04, Andrew Sackville-West shared this with us all:
--} On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:33:53AM +1000, M-L wrote:
--}  On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:47:56 +0100
--}  Tom Furie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--} 
--}   On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 05:04:14PM +, M-L wrote:
--}  
--}#!/bin/sh
--}#
--}# My creation .Xsession file
--}#
--}# To remove the cursor after a short break
--}unclutter -idle 1 
--}# To get up the Rox panel
--}rox -b=MyPanel 
--}# Have gkrellm working
--}gkrellm 
--}# Start Fluxbox, maybe it should be up top. Not according to
 Liam's example --}exec /usr/bin/fluxbox 
--}  
--}   Try without the  in the above line.
--}  
--}   Cheers,
--}   Tom
--}  
--}   --
--}   Anti-trust laws should be approached with exactly that attitude.
--} 
--} 
--}  Brilliant Tom, but absobloominlootly brilliant - that did it, works
 like a treat. --}
--} just in case you missed why... X runs until it has completed
--} everything in the .Xsession file. Once that's done, it kicks out and
--} either dies, or respawns itself depending on how you started X
--} ()startx vs *dm). SO with the  after fluxbox, you allowed fluxbox to
--} move into the background and X to move on through the .Xsession
--} file. Thus you were starting all that stuff up everytime you logged
--} in, but then X died at the end of .Xsession and you were back at the
--} xdm prompt :)
--}
--} A
--}

Thanks for that excellent explanation. Now I know why, what happened.

Be well,
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Re: how to configure users X setup?

2007-06-12 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 18:59, Liam O'Toole shared this with us all:
--} On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:07:42 -0400
--} Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--}
--}  On 6/12/07, Liam O'Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--}  
--}   Both of those files influence what clients (e.g. window managers)
--}   are run when the user starts an X server. They do not set up X
--}   itself. Just what setting up do you want to achieve?
--} 
--}  Right. I want certain programs run when I start X such as
--}  xscreensaver, xload, and a certain custom built window manager in
--}  /usr/local (not a debian package).
--}
--} OK. The 'Debian way' is to place the commands in the
--} executable file ~/.Xsession, e.g.,
--}
--} #!/bin/sh
--} xscreensaver 
--} xload 
--} exec /usr/local/bin/my_custom_window_manager
--}
--} That file will determine your X session when you start X from the
--} console and when you choose the default session in GDM.
--}
--} Liam

In much the same situation, on an old Toshiba laptop, 64 MB RAM and 10 GB hard 
drive, Etch installed, using fluxbox window manager and I created an 
~/.Xsession just as your example above. With is file the machine boots to XDM 
and when the user name and password are inserted appropriately, just keeps 
coming back to XDM login.

So I have to kill the GUI and get in through CLI and remove the ~/.Xsession 
script and then restart with startx.

So there must be something wrong, either with the scrip, or something the 
script interferes with? I wonder if it works for Zach?

I had hoped that I would be able to get gkrellm and the Rox panel to run after 
fluxbox has started. This should possibly be able to be placed in the 
~/.fluxbox/init script, but it won't happen. Mainly because even though I 
have googled extensively, and read the fluxbox wiki and all the documentation 
I could find, none had the answer. Created startup scrips and such, have not 
had any joy with any of these.

I just thought that maybe the Debian way you described above might be the 
way to go.

Charlie

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Re: Which is the correct configuration for a usb cd burner?

2007-06-05 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 22:19, kawanokami shared this with us all:
--} Hi, I just bought a LACIE usb burner and, most unfortunatly, k3b
--} doesn't recognize it...
--} The device was recognized by udev as /dev/ubb and if I insert a (full)
--} cd in it, KDE authomatically mounts it and makes its content
--} accessible correctly... But still k3b isn't able to use it as a burner
--} (or a reader). My question now is how a CD/DVD burner should be
--} recognized under Debian...
--}
--} I'm running a debian testing/unstable with kernel 2.6.18 custom build
--} (I have enabled/disabled scsi emulation just to try it, but with no
--} different results) and k3b 1.0.1 ... When I power up my pc /dev/ubb is
--} already there (usb cable is inserted) and the device is recognized
--} with group floppy, while the internal reader is recognized under /
--} dev/hda with group cdrom. If I insert a blank cd in the usb burner,
--} it starts to recursively try to access it and fails (of course... it's
--} blank!)... I have to manually switch it off, exctract the cd and then
--} power it up again to stop it from trying...
--}
--} Have you any suggestion? LACIE says its burner is tested with linux
--} mandriva, fedora, ubuntu (and others) and k3b... but perhaps I'm
--} missing some important kernel module? Or udev configuration? I googled
--} around, but with no luck... Can you help me?
--}
--} Thanks,
--} Matteo

My external USB dual layer DVD burner and also my USB enclosure internal dual 
layer DVD burner is recognised in Debian Etch and Lenny on my machines by 
totem and k3b by this entry in my /etc/fstab

/dev/scd0   /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0

Nothing else was required, though I placed this in /etc/fstab manually. I 
think it might also have required a hard reboot, but that might have been 
something else?

Hope that helps.
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Re: For KDE: Re: how to hide the mouse pointer

2007-05-04 Thread M-L
On Friday 04 May 2007 19:18, Johannes Wiedersich shared this with us all:
--} The following works fine for KDE:
--}
--} 11:16:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more .kde/Autostart/unclutter
--} #!/bin/bash
--} /usr/bin/unclutter
--}
--} $ chmod u+x .kde/Autostart/unclutter
--}
--} HTH someone ;-D
--}
--} Johannes

Thank you, it did.

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Re: GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-28 Thread M-L
On Saturday 28 April 2007 22:49, Douglas Allan Tutty shared this with us all:
--} On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 06:28:02AM +, David Dawson wrote:
--}  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--} 
--}  sbm (smart boot manager)
--}  It comes on the Debian install disk as a floppy image which you dd to
 a --}  floppy and use it to boot from.
--}
--} I have an IBM PS/ValuePoint 486 and smb did not work on it.
--}
--} Doug.

I haven't followed this thread, so this might be a silly question?

But you have checked that your BIOS seeks your floppy drive at startup? That 
is if you have SMB on floppy, or that you can boot from CDROM if you have SMB 
on a CD?

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Re: GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-28 Thread M-L
On Sunday 29 April 2007 09:38, Douglas Allan Tutty shared this with us all:
--} On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 07:56:22AM +1000, M-L wrote:
--}  On Saturday 28 April 2007 22:49, Douglas Allan Tutty shared this with
 us all: --}  --} On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 06:28:02AM +, David Dawson
 wrote: --}  --}  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--}  --} 
--}  --}  sbm (smart boot manager)
--}  --}  It comes on the Debian install disk as a floppy image which you
 dd to --}   a --}  floppy and use it to boot from.
--}  --}
--}  --} I have an IBM PS/ValuePoint 486 and smb did not work on it.
--}  --}
--}  --} Doug.
--} 
--}  I haven't followed this thread, so this might be a silly question?
--} 
--}  But you have checked that your BIOS seeks your floppy drive at
 startup? That --}  is if you have SMB on floppy, or that you can boot from
 CDROM if you have SMB --}  on a CD?
--} 
--}
--} Clarification:  it will boot the floppy but it won't boot the CDROM.
--}
--} Doug.

Change that behaviour in the BIOS. That's if the machine is capable of booting 
from the CDROM?

Charlie

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Re: my experiences trying to install Etch

2007-04-19 Thread M-L
On Friday 20 April 2007 13:00, D. Hugh Redelmeier sent this for all our 
perusal:
---} I was trying to install the Debian for the first time and ran into
 several ---} issues.
---}
---} I would send this to installlation-reports but I seem to need a
---} running Debian system for that.
---}
---} Can anybody suggests how I should proceed?  (5) is a fairly serious
 block. ---}
---} Context:
---}
---} Me: long-time Linux user.  This is my first Debian install.
---}
---} Computer: eMachine T2625
---} - Atlon XP 2600+
---} - 640M RAM
---} - 8G hard disk (small, not original, not previously partitioned)
---}
---} Installation medium:
---}   debian-40r0-i386-DVD-1.iso

Hello long time linux user.

I haven't used the installer you mention, but a broken one that came out 
earlier.

Type expert at the boot prompt and go through the questions as they are 
asked, answer appropriately

Partitioning, select custom partitioning. Why would you do anything else if 
you have an idea of what you want/need for each partition?

Then just follow the prompts and do as you need. 

It will configure your Internet connection and download the packages you need 
when you choose them. etc.. If you wish, I have never been there. Always 
edited my sources list by hand.

Allow the installer to set up your base system and reboot.

Do you want the installer to add whatever packages you need to run things?

I have never gone there either, have always installed the packages I want on 
the system myself through apt-get install after the reboot. If the GUI is 
installed, have also used synaptic That way you have control of what is 
going onto your system.

Try that, should work a treat.

Charlie

---} I used the GUI installer.
---}
---} Issues:
---}
---} 1) it wasn't clearly documented that even though there is a sequence
---}of 3 DVDs avaialble for download (for i386), only the first is
---}needed for (many?) installs.
---}
---}
---} 2) I saw no published checksums for the .iso files.  I find checksums
---}are a nice confidence-building measure.
---}
---}For example, with Fedora I download the .iso from a random mirror
---}but download the checksums from the master site.  This has revealed
---}problems at least once.
---}
---}Even better than checksums would be signed checksums.
---}
---}
---} 3) When I booted the installation DVD on my internal DVD writer, all
---}went well until this step failed, even on retry:
---}
---}   Load installer components from CD:
---} loading jfsutils-udeb
---}
---}I avoided this problem by starting over, and booting from the
---}internal DVD reader.
---}
---} 4) For partitioning, I selected Guided - use entire disk and
---}Separate /home partition.
---}
---}- it allocated less swap than there is main memory.  At least at
---}  one time, swap had to be at least as big as main memory or the
 memory ---}  would not be used.
---}
---}- I was allowed to second-guess a number of partition attributes
---}  proposed, but not the partition size, perhaps the most important
---}  choice.
---}
---}VT4 said: Partman: Error: unable to determine maximum new size for
---}   partition
---}
---}It seems as if the partitioner thinks that if I change the size,
---}the proposed partitions must actually exist.
---}
---} 5) far into the package install, just after X11 configuration, the GUI
---}stopped with
---}
---}   Configuring cupsys
---}   Installation step failed
---}   An installation step failed.  You can try to run the failing
---}   item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else.  The
---}   failing step is: Select and install software
---}
---}Retrying the whole select and install software step seems
---}brutal.
---}
---}VT4 shows:
---}
---}   in-target: No Gutenprint PPD files to update.
---}...
---}   in-target: updating the gdk-pixbuf loaders list for GTK+-2.4.0...
---}   in-target: done.
---}   in-target:
---}   in-target: Setting up desktop-base (4.0.1)...
---}   in-target:
---}   in-target: tasksel: aptitiude failed (255)
---}   main-menu[1363]: WARNING ***:Configuring 'pkgsel' failed with error
 code 1 ---}   main-menu[1363]: WARNING **: Menu item 'pkgsel' failed.
---}
---}

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Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread M-L
On Sunday 01 April 2007 07:34, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi sent this for all our 
perusal:
---} David Baron wrote:
---}
---}  Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had
 anything ---}  to do with Debian? With Linux? With computers?
---} 
---}  The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or
 Dell ---}  (ok U is a Linux distro and Dell makes computers, but...)
 Endless threads ---}  filling my mailbox with irrelevance.
---} 
---}
---} Actually, I do not mind the discussion about Ubuntu and Dell. We can
 learn a ---} lot from Ubuntu folks (or any other distribution's users for
 that matter). ---} I think the discussion about Dell computers (and
 hardware in general) is ---} very helpful for Debian users. But it is the
 other topics you highlighted ---} that get on my nerves...
---}
---} raju

So we agree that we can learn something from OT's? That we can read or just 
delete without reading? That Debian OT tells us what sort of people use 
Debian, this list, and computers in general?

Good, that's how I use it. Thank you to everyone.

Be well,
Charlie
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make oneself let go of ordinary life and pleasures. In fact, nirvana is so 
open and joyful, is so much more than any of the small pleasures we grasp 
after. You don't renounce the world, you gain the 
world. -- A WESTERN MASTER

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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread M-L
On Sunday 25 March 2007 06:58, eklektik sent this for all our perusal:
cut huge chunks and spaces
---} Thanks for clarifying the issue. I wait till the final version come out
 hoping that it will include the package. In the mean time I take up the
 issue on the developer-testing list or file a bug report as you suggested.
 ---}
---} Jmak

I usually install with expert typed in at the command prompt so I have more 
control, and once the base system is installed and reboots, select my own 
packages. This works in Sarge as well as Etch. I have an early and broken 
install for the latter and can still install etch from that. So it works.

But even on a just hit Enter install you may get a list of modules to load 
during the install. Use cursor keys to scroll down to the ppp module, and the 
space bar to select it. Then continue.

At some point in the install the installer asks if you want to install from 
the Internet. Even if you are not connected, select yes. Have your modem 
switched on anyway.

Then the installer will ask if you want to configure ppp or a connection to 
the Internet? Again answer yes, then go through the prompts and unless you 
want it for another name allow provider to be the default and answer 
correctly at the prompt for telephone number, login name etc.. When complete 
and it's presented to you at the end of this process. Read it and make 
certain all is well, and select yes to have it written to the file.

Then get back to the installers main menu and keep going.

You will find that the installer will dial out for you. If you have an 
Internet connection and your modem switched on, it will connect, if you've 
supplied the correct information.

That will happen even as you are answering questions and will show what is 
happening on your monitor.

You don't have to install from the Internet then, you can just keep using your 
CD/DVD. The installer will tell you what it can't get hold of or whatever as 
it goes along.

It's then up to you if you disconnect or leave the system connected. I usually 
don't like to leave the system connected until I have a firewall enabled and 
configured. But having said that, I have also left the connection on, and 
found the default firewall very good. 

I think that pppconfig is not on the disks, in etch at any rate, till the 
third CD, if you're installing from CD. So maybe that's why you can't find it 
if you have only one. But as you see, the installer will create the dialup 
files for you during the install, if you request it to do so.

HTH
Charlie

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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-23 Thread M-L
On Saturday 24 March 2007 11:54, eklektik sent this for all our perusal:
---} Hi,
---} I've just installed etch and want to hook up to the Internet via an
 external modem. But when I issue the command pppconfig I get the message
 command not found. pppconfig always worked for me before. Now I dont know
 how to hook up to the internet. ---} Also after installation my ubuntu on
 the other partition doesn't see the partitions any longer. What could be
 the problem. ---}
---} jmak

Probably a silly question but :- did you install pppconfig?

Charlie
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limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, 
as something separate from the rest-a kind of optical delusion of 
consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to 
our personal desires and affection of a few persons nearest to us. Our task 
must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of 
understanding and compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of 
nature in its beauty. --- ALBERT EINSTEIN

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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-23 Thread M-L
On Saturday 24 March 2007 15:00, eklektik sent this for all our perusal:
---}
---} http://jozmak.googlepages.com
---}
---} - Original Message 
---} From: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---} To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
---} Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:01:56 PM
---} Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found
---}
---} On Saturday 24 March 2007 11:54, eklektik sent this for all our
 perusal: ---} ---} Hi,
---} ---} I've just installed etch and want to hook up to the Internet via
 an ---}  external modem. But when I issue the command pppconfig I get the
 message ---}  command not found. pppconfig always worked for me before.
 Now I dont know ---}  how to hook up to the internet. ---} Also after
 installation my ubuntu on ---}  the other partition doesn't see the
 partitions any longer. What could be ---}  the problem. ---}
---} ---} jmak
---}
---} Probably a silly question but :- did you install pppconfig?
---}
---} Actually the pppconfig is not installed from some reasons. I thought
 when I install the distro the pppconfig is part of the istallation. So what
 can I do now? ---}
---} jmak
---}
---} (Sorry the previous email went to the wrong place)

Easily fixed; as root just type apt-get install pppconfig [without the 
quotes of course] into a terminal. Once installed just run it in the same 
terminal as root.

HTH
Charlie

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Re: daylight savings time

2007-03-14 Thread M-L
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 21:54, Hugo Vanwoerkom sent this for all our 
perusal:
---} John Hasler wrote:
---}  Marty Landman writes:
---}  I've got NTP running...
---} 
---}  NTP has nothing to do with DST.  The servers send UTC.  It is up to
 the ---}  clients to deal with their time zones.
---} 
---}  Only problem is that I am getting the time as an hour earlier than
 it ---}  really is, since the new daylight savings time here in the US
 went into ---}  effect over the weekend.
---} 
---}  What Debian version are you running?  Is it up to date?  What is the
 output ---}  of 'zdump -v America/New_York | grep 2007'?
---}
---} Thanks John, this is a response in the best tradition of LDU: I did not
---} know of this command :-(
---}
---} America/New_York  Sun Mar 11 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59
---} 2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
---} America/New_York  Sun Mar 11 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00
---} 2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
---} America/New_York  Sun Nov  4 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59
---} 2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
---} America/New_York  Sun Nov  4 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00
---} 2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
---}
---} and 'zdump -v America/Mexico_City | grep 2007' where I am:
---}
---} America/Mexico_City  Sun Apr  1 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Apr  1 01:59:59
---} 2007 CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600
---} America/Mexico_City  Sun Apr  1 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Apr  1 03:00:00
---} 2007 CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000
---} America/Mexico_City  Sun Oct 28 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:59:59
---} 2007 CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000
---} America/Mexico_City  Sun Oct 28 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:00:00
---} 2007 CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600
---}
---} Bingo!
---}
---} Hugo

I am not certain this has anything to do with your problem so have been 
reluctant to reply, but I couldn't fix it through tzdata or anything else 
like that either. After a couple of days of hunting and trying a few things, 
still couldn't find a solution. But running quite a few KDE packages, I 
thought I would give that a go and used the control center of KDE to set the 
timezone and it fixed the problem.

Hope this isn't just noise and might work in your case.
Charlie

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Re: writing to DVD

2007-03-08 Thread M-L
On Friday 09 March 2007 11:05, andy sent this for all our perusal:
---} Hi all
---}
---} Can anyone help me to interpret and fix the following error when I try
---} to write a DVD in Etch. This approach has always served me well, until
---} now. I can't see that I am doing anything untoward, but as they say
---} many eyes make shallow bugs ...
---}
---} This is the output when  trying to burn a video to DVD:
---}
---} ~/DVD/RAW_DVD$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc -dvd-video ./dvd
---} Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video ./dvd | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k
 seek=0' ---} I: -input-charset not specified, using utf-8 (detected in
 locale settings) ---} Unknown file type (unallocated) ./dvd/.. - ignoring
 and continuing. ---} :-( /dev/hdc: 2295104 blocks are free, 2299899 to be
 written!
---} :-( write failed: No space left on device
---}
---}
---} I am using a blank DVD so what gives??
---}
---} Thanks in (hopeful) anticipation!
---}
---} Cheers
---}
---} /A
---}
---}

Try growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc=./dvd

If not try:-

growisofs -dvd-compat -overburn -Z /dev/hdc=./dvd

If not try:-

growisofs -speed=2 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc=./dvd


Or whatever speed works for your DVD burner.

HTH
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Tzconfig......... xfce4

2007-03-05 Thread M-L
Since the upgrade yesterday using xfce4 desktop manager. Reboot this 
morning... My timezone shows as Australia/Melbourne and yet is wrong:-

Your default time zone is set to 'Australia/Melbourne'.
Local time is now:  Wed Mar  7 03:50:53 EST 2007.
Universal Time is now:  Tue Mar  6 16:50:53 UTC 2007.

It should be:-

Your default time zone is set to 'Australia/Melbourne'.
Local time is now:  Tue Mar  6 03:50:53 EST 2007.
Universal Time is now:  Tue Mar  6 16:50:53 UTC 2007.


Can anyone please tell me how I might change the time back to what it should 
be in in xfce4?

Thanks in advance.
Charlie
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am. He forgot to mention the other part. I'm sure he knew, he just 
forgot: I don't think, therefore I'm not. --- 
KATAGIRI ROSHI

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Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-08 Thread M-L
On Thursday 08 February 2007 01:59, Celejar shared this with us all:
--} On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:32:02 -0500
--} Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--}
--} [snip]
--}
--}  see how the turnout is; If anyone else is interested email me
--}  personally, and email it to the list also (Send two separate emails
--}  though, otherwise it won't pass my email filters.
--}
--} I'm interested.
--}
--} Celejar

If I can assist, I am as well.

Charlie

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Re: I'm not sure if this is a Bug: Etch-BC-Install does not find my USB-CD-ROM

2007-02-08 Thread M-L
On Thursday 08 February 2007 23:56, Johan Kröckel shared this with us all:
--} Hi,
--} I tried to setup Debian-Etch with the BC-RC1-CD on my Thinkpad x60s with
--} a USB-cdrom, but the Installer does not find the CD.
--} Is it a Bug?
--}
--} Johan Kröckel
--}
--}

Not certain what a BC-RC1-CD might be, but I had a problem trying to setup 
etch through a USB CDROM on my lappy while it went through a USB port. Once 
directly connected to the lappy, it was recognised.

HTH
Charlie
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Re: debian rocks!

2007-02-05 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 02:19, Shobhit Jindal sent this for all our 
perusal:
---}  Just count one more happy debian user! Reinstalled yesterday, to
 switch ---}  from x86 sarge to amd64 etch. Everything went flawlessly.

Thanks to developers, maintainers, people on this list and everyone who 
contributes.

Been said before, but can't be mentioned often enough.

Be well,
Charlie

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oracles which are not decayed, and there are such answers to the most modern 
inquiry in them as Delphi and Dodona never gave. We might as well omit to 
study Nature because she is old. ...Henry 
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Re: goddammit

2007-02-01 Thread M-L
On Friday 02 February 2007 17:16, Incoming shared this with us all:
--} I have been fighting with this damned Debian 3.1 - Sergeant Wolly or
 some such - and I can't even print.  I have also installed JRE, but I
 haven't found out how to connect it to Firefox. --}
--} I can't downlosd from my digital camera.
--}
--} I can only play a few of the video formats out on the web.  There
 doesn't seem to be any one that will play them all, or, failing that,
 convert to a format that will play on what I have (Totem, RealPlayer which
 doesn't really work). --}
--} Every time I go looking for solutions I wind up going in circles and
 drowning in a mass of half-baked how-to's and advice on how to run files
 that no longer exist or led from one useless document to another as I RTFM.
  Well, boys and girls, so far any FM I have encountered is NFG or NWAPOCS
 (Not Worth A Pinch...).  I can't say that it's not entertaining, but I need
 a complete operating system and not some ill-fitting patches. --}
--} Before anyone decides to engage in infantile gibberish, otherwise known
 as rants or flames, don't waste my time. --}
--} What I really want to know is why this is so difficult to put together
 and how it can be done without me becoming a systems engineer.  Not that
 I'd mind, it's just that, currently, I just don't have the time. --}


You might be trying to do too many things at once.
You might just install etch, or upgrade to etch. From the net or whatever way 
you want. That will do some of the things for you.

Then once done, one thing at a time, and people here will be able to help you.

It is good, wise and a great help to people who will gladly help you;- 
if you post any error messages. 
If you describe the hardware, eg camera you are trying to mount.

Frustration is understood on this list. But most people have worked through it 
and have perfectly running systems on laptops, desktops and other tops.
So it's doable, and some have done it easier than others.
But you give no information in your post.
Maybe try again.
We understand your frustration, but that was when we had absobloominlootly no 
idea either, and were helped through it on this list.

Be well,
Charlie

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Re: Revive dark photos -- Debian gimp packaging question

2007-01-21 Thread M-L
On Monday 22 January 2007 17:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this for all 
our perusal:
---} On Jan 21, 6:30 pm, ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---}  Hi,
---} 
---}  I remember that I revived some dark photos to normal look by simply
---}  choosing certain gimp menus. Now I want to do it again, but couldn't
 find ---}  the menu entry any more.
---} 
---}  So I went ahead googling the answer, and it seems Normalize, Contrast
---}  Auto-stretch and Auto-stretch HSV are three ways of doing it. But I
 believe ---}  I've been to every corner of gimp menu, but didn't find a
 single clue where ---}  those options could be. E.g., Contrast Autostretch
 should be at (Filters - ---}  Map - Contrast Autostretch), but it's not
 there, in my gimp at least. ---}
---} Are they under Colors-Auto?
---}
---}
Layers/Colour I think..

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Re: Revive dark photos -- Debian gimp packaging question

2007-01-21 Thread M-L
On Monday 22 January 2007 17:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this for all 
our perusal:
---} On Jan 21, 6:30 pm, ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---}  Hi,
---} 
---}  I remember that I revived some dark photos to normal look by simply
---}  choosing certain gimp menus. Now I want to do it again, but couldn't
 find ---}  the menu entry any more.
---} 
---}  So I went ahead googling the answer, and it seems Normalize, Contrast
---}  Auto-stretch and Auto-stretch HSV are three ways of doing it. But I
 believe ---}  I've been to every corner of gimp menu, but didn't find a
 single clue where ---}  those options could be. E.g., Contrast Autostretch
 should be at (Filters - ---}  Map - Contrast Autostretch), but it's not
 there, in my gimp at least. ---}
---} Are they under Colors-Auto?
---}
---}

Or Tools/Colour Tools I think?

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Re: software for making a web site......

2007-01-15 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 09:57, Hal Vaughan sent this for all our perusal:
snip
---}  The only somewhat pesky area would be laptops which are supposed be
---}  awkward where Linux is concerned.  I don't laptops much.
---}
---} This is a longstanding difficulty in working with Linux.  Laptops have
---} devices with proprietary drivers that are hard to duplicate.
---}
snip
Laptops take a bit more work to install in some cases, but then they have 
other advantages. Like less power use for when you rely on a solar system for 
electrical power as just one example.

Charlie
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Re: This URL crashes Konqueror.....?

2007-01-12 Thread M-L
On Friday 12 January 2007 18:54, Kamaraju Kusumanchi shared this with us all:
-- On Thursday 11 January 2007 21:54, M-L wrote:
--  Can someone enlighten me please as to why this the URL below crashes
--  Konqueror?
-- 
--  http://www.avaaz.org/en/iraq_campaign_jan_2007/
-- 
-- 
--
-- Works fine on konqueror 3.5.5 installed from Debian Etch (testing) i386
-- repositories. No crash and the site renders fine.
--
-- raju
--
-- --
-- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
-- http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/
-- http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/

Thank you.

Roberto had the right of it, there was no Java installed for Konq, done now 
and the URL works.

Many thanks to everyone.

Charlie

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do, I'm sure that, for me, there would be nothing left worth living 
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Re: This URL crashes Konqueror.....?

2007-01-12 Thread M-L
On Saturday 13 January 2007 03:12, Roberto C. Sanchez shared this with us all:
--} On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 12:57:36AM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
--}  On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 13:54 +1100, M-L wrote:
--}   Can someone enlighten me please as to why this the URL below crashes
--}   Konqueror?
--}  
--}   http://www.avaaz.org/en/iraq_campaign_jan_2007/
--} 
--}  Mainly because of this:
--} 
--}  http://www.avaaz.org/inc/interstateh2.swf
--} 
--} That might explain it.  Many users on Debian don't install flash at all.
--} I do have it installed, but it is disabled by default using an entry in
--} my userContent.css that I found on the 'net a few years ago.
--}
--} Regards,
--}
--} -Roberto
--}

Clicking on that link brings up totem and totem declares it can't open that 
page. I don't have flash of any kind installed, have never needed it before 
though I have been asked if I want to install it.

But the URL works now that java is installed.

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This URL crashes Konqueror.....?

2007-01-11 Thread M-L
Can someone enlighten me please as to why this the URL below crashes 
Konqueror?

http://www.avaaz.org/en/iraq_campaign_jan_2007/

TIA
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Re: This URL crashes Konqueror.....?

2007-01-11 Thread M-L
On Friday 12 January 2007 14:00, Roberto C. Sanchez shared this with us all:
-- On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 01:54:06PM +1100, M-L wrote:
--  Can someone enlighten me please as to why this the URL below crashes
--  Konqueror?
-- 
--  http://www.avaaz.org/en/iraq_campaign_jan_2007/
-- 
--
-- Not sure why it crashes Konq.  Maybe a javascript bug?
--
-- As far as the site content, don't worry you aren't missing a thing.  It
-- seems like just some self-important activist types who make
-- pronouncements without providing anything approaching a hard fact, any
-- sort of substantiation or even an inkling that they have the most basic
-- understanding of political or military matters.
--
-- To top it off, they don't even bother to offer a potential solution,
-- they just whine about the problem.  What good is that?
--
-- Regards,
--
-- -Roberto

Thanks Roberto,

I will have to look through Konq to see why it breaks on this. Javascript bug 
you reckon..? Will look here first.

Thank you
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Re: This URL crashes Konqueror.....?

2007-01-11 Thread M-L
On Friday 12 January 2007 14:02, Alan Ianson shared this with us all:
-- On Thu January 11 2007 18:54, M-L wrote:
--  Can someone enlighten me please as to why this the URL below crashes
--  Konqueror?
-- 
--  http://www.avaaz.org/en/iraq_campaign_jan_2007/
--
-- It doesn't crash my konqueror on etch-amd64.

Thank you, maybe I would have to use sun java again.

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Re: dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 12:37, Mark Grieveson sent this for all our 
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--- Hello.  Is there a graphical application for achieving a dial-up
 connection for xfce?  I don't wish to use kppp, or gnome-ppp. ---
--- I've used wvdial, but I find it only works as root.  As a regular user
 it states that it cannot access pppd, instructing me to check my
 permissions.  I've checked, and regular users have read permission, with
 the program being labelled executable.  Does it need write permission? ---
--- Anyway, I would still prefer to find a simple, usable graphical program
 that doesn't rely on kde or gnome.  Installing kppp or gnome-ppp would be
 an excessively large install, I suspect (the programs themselves aren't
 large, but with the various dependencies they would have, I'm guessing  the
 actual install would be quite big). ---
--- Mark
---
---

I am stuck on dialup here as well. 

It's not GUI, but I use the pon command from a terminal, and gkrellm to 
watch what is happening all the time.

Install ppp and pppconfig. Then in a terminal do pppconfig Then type pon 
into a root terminal, and you are connected.

Also to allow the user to connect and disconnect # adduser user dip You 
might have to log out to make this work the first time.

If you want to monitor this connection bring up gkrellm and it should have 
your ppp connection covered.

Set gkrellm as sticky so it is on all desktops and make it to remain on top of 
all windows and you can watch what is going on all the time.

Hope that helps.
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Re: is this fair comment?????

2007-01-07 Thread M-L
On Monday 08 January 2007 09:38, M. Fioretti shared this with us all:
-- On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 21:45:48 PM +, Michael Fothergill
-- ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
--
--  I found an article on a web site called linux-watch
--  (http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS3128387759.html)
-- [...]
-- 
--  Is this article accurate in its reporting?
--
-- I have no idea yet, must still think about it. But there is no doubt
-- that posting it in full to a mailing list (=redistribution) was a
-- clear violation of the ToU and of copyright. Above all, an unnecessary
-- one: why not just post the link and your comments? It would have even
-- be better netiquette towards people with a metered connection,
-- wouldn't it?
--
-- Marco
--
-- --
-- The right way to make everybody love Free Standards and Free Software:
-- http://digifreedom.net/node/73
--
--

When I went to the site, it did say Spread the Word So I assume you're 
moving off the subject for a reason?

Charlie

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Re: Getting scanner to work

2006-12-28 Thread M-L
On Wednesday 27 December 2006 19:15, BALLABIO GERARDO sent this for all our 
perusal:
--- Hi all,
--- may I please ask for your help.
---
--- I've been given an old scanner by a friend (not sure exactly how old,
--- but the drivers cd says windows 95, 98 and NT) and have been trying
 to --- run it from Debian Sarge. It's the first time I plug a scanner into
 a --- Linux box.
---
--- After an apt-get search scanner, I installed sane, then tried to run
--- xscanimage, but it printed this and exited:
---
---   No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something
--- different,
---   check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
---   sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the
 documentation ---   which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
---
--- So I tried sane-find-scanner and got this:
---
--- # sane-find-scanner will now attempt to detect your scanner. If the
--- # result is different from what you expected, first make sure your
--- # scanner is powered up and properly connected to your computer.
---
--- # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make
--- sure that
--- # you have loaded a SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter.
---
---   found USB scanner (vendor=0x05cb, product=0x1483) at libusb:001:002
--- # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be
--- supported by
--- # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.
---
--- # Not checking for parallel port scanners.
---
--- # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary
--- ports
--- # can't be detected by this program.
---
--- # You may want to run this program as root to find all devices.
 Once --- you
--- # found the scanner devices, be sure to adjust access permissions
 as --- # necessary.
---
--- From the manpages, I found that the scanner device should be called
--- something like /dev/scanner or /dev/usb/scanner or /dev/sg0, but
 there's --- nothing like that. Here's the output of ls /dev:
snip
--- I also read that I should load the sg kernel module and a kernel
--- scanner module: I tried sg, nothing changed. As for the kernel
 scanner --- module, I don't know how such a module should be called.
---
--- Knowing that Sarge may be somewhat outdated with respect to device
--- support, I've also tried Knoppix (v5.0.1, the latest as far as I know).
--- But I got exactly the same messages.
---
--- The scanner model is: Compeye Simplex 8110U. At least that's what's
--- written on it, I haven't been given the box nor the manuals, and never
--- heard about a brand called Compeye.
---
--- Can anyone give me some advice? (please Cc: me, I'm not subscribed)
---
--- Thanks all
---  Gerardo

Look at the kernel messages $ dmesg to see if there is any record of the 
scanner there. Sometimes the scanner is observed, but it takes a bit of work 
to have xsane work with it. If it's not identified, then you may need a 
special driver?

Be well,
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XCDRoast etch not working......

2006-12-22 Thread M-L
I get this error message when invoking XCDRoast:-

** (xcdroast:7879): WARNING **: Invalid mkisofs version -unknown- found.
Expecting at least version 1.15a17
Start xcdroast with the -n option to override (not recommended!)

It appears I have this version of mkisofs installed:-

Architecture: i386
Source: cdrtools
Version: 4:2.01+01a03-5

Is XCDRoast going to work again sometime in the future, or should I just 
remove it?

TIA,
Charlie

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Re: why some packages are kept back?

2006-12-18 Thread M-L
On Monday 18 December 2006 17:07, Yuwen Dai sent this for all our perusal:
--- Dear all,
---
--- I'm using Debian Sarge. When I ran apt-gete upgrade, this message
 shows: ---
---   ~# apt-get upgrade
---   Reading Package Lists... Done
---   Building Dependency Tree... Done
---   The following packages have been kept back:
--- ffmpeg libmjpegtools0 mjpegtools mplayer-586 thunderbird
---   0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
---
---
--- Why?  What should I do?
---

# apt-get dselect-upgrade

Should do it I think?
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Re: USB problems on laptop with debian etch

2006-12-17 Thread M-L
On Sunday 17 December 2006 20:57, carlopmart sent this for all our perusal:
--- Hi all,
---
---  Recently I have installed etch on my laptop. Frequently, when etch
--- boots displays this errors:
---
---
--- usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71 ...
--- usb 3-2: device not accepting address 4, error -71 ...
--- usb 3-2: device not accepting address 5, error -71 ...
--- usb 3-2: device not accepting address 8, error -71 ...
--- usb 3-2: device not accepting address 9, error -71 ...
---
---  And then I see this error reported by logwatch:
---
---
--- 1 Time(s):  [c0101005] kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0xb
---  2 Time(s):  [c01036b6] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20
---  2 Time(s):  [c01050e5] do_IRQ+0x43/0x52
---  1 Time(s):  [c0117778] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc
---  1 Time(s):  [c012ac30] run_workqueue+0x78/0xb5
---  1 Time(s):  [c012b441] worker_thread+0x0/0x10b
---  1 Time(s):  [c012b51a] worker_thread+0xd9/0x10b
---  1 Time(s):  [c012d7d1] kthread+0x0/0xef
---  1 Time(s):  [c012d893] kthread+0xc2/0xef
---  1 Time(s):  [c013fb77] handle_IRQ_event+0x17/0x49
---  1 Time(s):  [c013fb83] handle_IRQ_event+0x23/0x49
---  1 Time(s):  [c013fc3c] __do_IRQ+0x93/0xe8
---  1 Time(s):  [c013fc5c] __do_IRQ+0xb3/0xe8
---  1 Time(s):  [c014037f] __report_bad_irq+0x2b/0x69
---  1 Time(s):  [c014056c] note_interrupt+0x1af/0x1e7
---  1 Time(s):  [c02810a0] _spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x8/0x9
---  1 Time(s):  [f886549e] usb_hcd_irq+0x23/0x50 [usbcore]
---  1 Time(s):  [f88ad01c] hpsb_reset_bus+0x1c/0x22 [ieee1394]
---  1 Time(s):  [f88aebfd] delayed_reset_bus+0x0/0xc9 [ieee1394]
---  1 Time(s):  [f88b4ff9] csr1212_generate_csr_image+0x309/0x35c
 [ieee1394] ---  1 Time(s):  [f88c47db] ohci_devctl+0x5a/0x55a [ohci1394]
---
---  How can i fix this?? Is this a bug on etch kernel??? I am using latest
 kernel from debian repos. ---
---  nazgul:~# uname -a
--- Linux nazgul 2.6.18-3-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 16:41:14 UTC 2006 i686
 GNU/Linux --- nazgul:~#
---
--- --
--- CL Martinez
--- carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com


I've had that myself with this laptop on a kernel upgrade, so went back to the 
kernel I installed with, which happened to be 2.6.15-1-686 anything after 
that kept giving me that error message without allowing me to access my 
external CDROM.

Sorry I can't assist.
Charlie

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Re: dual layered DVD's vs single layer etc....

2006-12-03 Thread M-L
On Monday 04 December 2006 07:51, Michael Fothergill sent this for all our 
perusal:
--- Dear Debian people,
---
--- This is a pretty dumb question.  But I think it has a little merit.  I
--- bought myself a new Benq DVD rewriter and stuffed in my box.  This one
 can --- handle dual layered DVDs as well as the single ones.
---
--- I then realised after nosing around in the computer shop that dual
 layered --- DVDs have a capacity of 8.5GB c.f. the single layered ones of
 4.4GB. ---
--- What a genius this guy is I here you say.
---
--- A doubling of storage is what you would expect.
---
--- My point is that whereas the Sarge 3.1 r3 release contains 15 CDs, Etch
--- comprises 21 CDs..
---
--- Or 3 DVDs.  But of course these are 3 single layer 4.4 GB DVDs.
---
--- Once Etch comes out and everyones starts to work on Lenny, then maybe
 it --- could get to thirty CDs or 4 or 5 DVDs.
---
--- Once it gets to that size would dual layered DVD iso images be
 considered to --- be parked in the repositories?
---
---
---
--- Regards
---
--- Michael Fothergill

That might be all right, as long as the other option, single layer DVD's and 
CD's is still available. Otherwise everyone would have to upgrade to dual 
layer DVD's. That's probably a dumb answer. Because Debian would cut out the 
other media.

Charlie

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Re: Empty KDE Control Panel; Crowded Lost and Found

2006-12-01 Thread M-L
On Saturday 02 December 2006 08:35, Florian Kulzer sent this for all our 
perusal:
--- On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 12:02:54 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote:
---  Hi Folks,
--- 
---  Like several others, I've got an etch installation with kde where the
---  kde control panel is empty. The last time this came up, someone
---  pointed to a kind of lost and found within kde - it shows up as one
 of ---  the directory-like choices in that application menu. Sure enough,
 ---  I've got a huge lost and found menu, which will probably let me get
 at ---  the various kde control center options, but what I want is to fix
 the ---  control center.
--- 
---  I don't know how kde works, internally. How do I get these tools to
---  appear where they belong? Am I looking for a directory tree, to be
---  fixed with mv, some text file to be editted, or (I fear) some binary
---  file to be modified only with some doubtless graphical tool?
--- 
---  Also, assuming I fix whatever got misinstalled, how do I avoid having
---  it break again every time some kde component is upgraded?
---
--- This sounds like bug #397057 / #398734. It was supposedly fixed in
--- kdelibs 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-4. Which version of this package do you have
--- installed? (An up-to-date Etch system should have 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-5.)
---
--- --
--- Regards,
---   Florian
---
No my system doesn't have that and I looked through 
the /var/cache/apt/archives and that version isn't there either. I did an 
apt-get update/upgrade this morning and came up empty. 
But I have this version installed:-
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Architecture: all
Version: 4:3.5.3-1
Depends: kdelibs4c2a (= 4:3.5.3-1), kdelibs-data (= 4:3.5.3-1)

Maybe others only have this version installed.
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Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-01 Thread M-L
On Saturday 02 December 2006 08:50, Nate Duehr shared this with us all:
-- Ron Johnson wrote:
--  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
--  Hash: SHA1
-- 
--  On 12/01/06 12:30, Nate Duehr wrote:
--  Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
--  On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 02:30:54PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
--  The *real* killer app was Linus' decision to develop Linux
 openly. -- 
--  I took a software engineering class where the professor maintained
 that --  the only notable contribution that Linus Torvalds has made to
 the --  programming/compsci/compeng world was figuring out how to make
 it --  possible for hundreds of people to work on the same code base
 without --  stepping all over each other.
--  He was wrong.  People step all over each other in the kernel and just
--  about every application that requires more than a few developers all
 the --  time in the open-source world.  [Hint, see recent ABI screw-ups
 in --  mysql-server and mysql-client... not caused by Debian, happened
 --  upstream.  Retarded bugs really, too.]
-- 
--  Just because Linus solved a *social* problem, doesn't mean that that
--  ability was instantly transmitted to every other project.
--
-- What social problem did he solve?  You appear to have him on a
-- pedestal he probably doesn't deserve nor want.
--
-- Back then source was generally free for a whole lot of OS's.  He just
-- wrote a interesting new monolithic kernel for x86 hardware and invited
-- the world to help him work on it.  He's no genius of social sciences or
-- anything.
--
-- The rest was just dumb luck and timing.  The time was right for
-- something new, maybe.  BSD was going strong by the time Linux popped up.
--
-- You give him too much credit.  Where he might be a genius is in keeping
-- it together all these years... not in doing Linux in the first place.
--
-- The first Linux kernels weren't exactly earth-shatteringly great or
-- anything.  There were lots of OS's that did a better job on x86
-- hardware, and a few were already open-source.
--
-- Just as an example, Microware's OS/9 is still around, and it was up and
-- working on multiple hardware platforms years before the early Linux
-- kernels came out.  It never was open-source, but it's still a better
-- RTOS than Linux.
--
-- Nate

The genius is that Linus got people involved and the allowed it to run without 
taking it back or stifling it in any way. As for timing, that's another 
genius in itself. So maybe Linus was two geniuses?

Charlie

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Re: homepage in konqueror

2006-11-30 Thread M-L
On Friday 01 December 2006 16:24, Mark Grieveson sent this for all our 
perusal:
--- Anyone know how I can get konqueror to start up with google.ca, instead
--- of this irritating Konqueror:  Conquer your desktop! page that keeps
--- popping up?  I changed the homepage setting, but when I start it, I
--- still get the irritating, practically an advertisement, cover page.
---
--- Mark
---
---

In Settings/Configure Konqueror/Home URL Place whatever URL you like, and 
change it as often as you want. Or leave it blank.

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Re: homepage in konqueror

2006-11-30 Thread M-L
On Friday 01 December 2006 16:49, M-L sent this for all our perusal:
--- On Friday 01 December 2006 16:24, Mark Grieveson sent this for all our
--- perusal:
--- --- Anyone know how I can get konqueror to start up with google.ca,
 instead --- --- of this irritating Konqueror:  Conquer your desktop!
 page that keeps --- --- popping up?  I changed the homepage setting, but
 when I start it, I --- --- still get the irritating, practically an
 advertisement, cover page. --- ---
--- --- Mark
--- ---
--- ---
---
--- In Settings/Configure Konqueror/Home URL Place whatever URL you like,
 and --- change it as often as you want. Or leave it blank.


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Re: Replacing Gnome with KDE

2006-11-28 Thread M-L
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 14:21, Cameron L. Spitzer shared this with us 
all:
-- Having just attempted to replace GNOME with KDE, and ending up
-- with an empty Control Center, I'd be willing to give icewm a try.

This is a separate problem, look in Big K lost and found and look back at 
some of the posts of recent and you will also find a fix.

Charlie

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of the particles, etc., etc., stretching or contracting every speaker to 
certain rules of theirs. I see that they forget that the first requisite and 
rule is that expression shall be vital and natural, as much as the voice of a 
brute or an interjection: first of all, mother tongue; and last of all, 
artificial or father tongue. Essentially your truest poetic sentence is as 
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Re: No sound with KDE

2006-11-26 Thread M-L
On Monday 27 November 2006 08:26, Luis Finotti shared this with us all:
-- Hi,
--
-- I've recently upgraded from Sarge to Etch.  Most things went smoothly...
-- But, I just realized I have no sound anymore.
--
-- I noticed that alsa was not installed anymore (I'm pretty sure it was
-- installed with Sarge), so I installed alsa, alsa-utils, alsa-tools,
-- alsa-oss.  Ran alsaconf, alsamixer, alsactl strore.  But I get no sound,
-- when running KDE.
--
-- * I get no error message and all seems like is playing, except there is
 no -- sound.  (It's like the volume is down.  But kmixer and alsamixer
 show that -- it is not.)
--
-- * I can play sounds *before* I start KDE.
--
-- * If I kill KDE, I still get no sound (not even from a terminal), unless
 I -- do /etc/init.d/alsa unload  alsaconf.
--
-- * If I start fluxbox instead of KDE, or play sound from a terminal,
 sound -- works (if I haven't started KDE yet).  If I start KDE, it stops.
 --
-- * I checked the mixer, and volumes are still up (before and after KDE
-- starts).
--
-- * /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop/start does not bring the sound back... 
 But -- rebooting does (before KDE is started.)
--
-- * Within KDE (or while running it, or after running it), no user gets
 any -- sound (not even root).
--
-- * I've tried ogg123, aplay, xmms...
--
-- * Killing artsd has no effect (so I assume it is not its fault).
--
-- * The suggestion from
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/01/msg03099.html -- does not
 work.
--
-- * In kcontrol - Sound  Multimedia - Sound System, I have Enable the
-- sound system checked.  (Clicking on Test sound produces no output.) 
 In -- Hardware I tried the default Auto Detect in select the audio
 device, -- but have also tried ALSA and OSS, with no success.  Nothing
 else is -- checked.  (I tried Full duplex, but doesn't help either.)
--
-- If this helps, here is more info about the system:
--
-- debian[~]$ cat /proc/asound/cards
--  0 [CS46xx ]: CS46xx - Sound Fusion CS46xx
--   Sound Fusion CS46xx at 0xe2105000/0xe200, irq
 201 --
-- debian[~]$ lsmod | grep snd
-- snd_cs46xx 76680  2
-- snd_ac97_codec 82976  1 snd_cs46xx
-- snd_ac97_bus2624  1 snd_ac97_codec
-- snd_pcm_oss36768  0
-- snd_mixer_oss  16192  2 snd_pcm_oss
-- snd_pcm74948  3 snd_cs46xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
-- snd_seq_dummy   4100  0
-- snd_seq_oss28928  0
-- snd_seq_midi8416  0
-- snd_rawmidi23200  2 snd_cs46xx,snd_seq_midi
-- snd_seq_midi_event  7424  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
-- snd_seq46736  6
-- snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
-- snd_timer  21124  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
-- snd_seq_device  8012  5
-- snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
-- snd48548  12
--
 snd_cs46xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd
_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device -- soundcore   9440 
 2 snd
-- snd_page_alloc  9800  2 snd_cs46xx,snd_pcm
-- gameport   14600  5 snd_cs46xx,analog,ns558
--
-- debian[~]$ lspci | grep audio
-- 00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24
-- [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01)
--
-- debian[~]$ uname -a
-- Linux debian 2.6.17-2-k7 #1 SMP Wed Sep 13 17:18:46 UTC 2006 i686
 GNU/Linux --
-- debian[~]$ wajig list-installed alsa
-- alsa-base
-- alsa-oss
-- alsaplayer
-- alsaplayer-common
-- alsaplayer-gtk
-- alsaplayer-oss
-- alsa-tools
-- alsa-utils
-- gstreamer0.10-alsa
-- xmms2-plugin-alsa
--
-- Any suggestions...  I ran out of ideas and I couldn't find anything
 (else) -- with google...
--
-- Best to all,
--
-- Luis
--

I hate to ask this, but did you reboot the computer after you did all these 
things. I know that sounds very other O/Sish, but it will restart certain 
processes that might then pick up on the changes you've made.

Charlie

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Re: No sound with KDE

2006-11-26 Thread M-L
On Monday 27 November 2006 10:42, Luis Finotti shared this with us all:
-- Hi,
--
-- On 11/26/06, M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- 
-- 
--  I hate to ask this, but did you reboot the computer after you did all
--  these
--  things. I know that sounds very other O/Sish, but it will restart
 certain --  processes that might then pick up on the changes you've made.
 -- 
--  Charlie
--
--
--
-- OK, I tried it now, but didn't work...  In fact, after reboot the sound
 was -- not working (even before KDE).  As usual, alsaconf fixed it.
--
-- BUT, I've found that another user, logging in KDE did not cause the
-- problem.  I compared the KDE sound settings and the only difference was
 that -- it had run highest possible priority checked.  I tried to do
 this and did -- not help...
--
-- Then, since it seemed to be a problem of users config files, I moved
 .kde -- and .kderc to .kde.old and .kderc.old, and restarted KDE.  I then
 was -- prompted for configuration when restarting KDE.  But it did not
 work...  (I -- did run alsaconf before starting KDE again.)
--
-- Then, I moved .kderc.old and .kde.old to their original places.  Much
 to -- my surprise, most of my old configuration was lost (background, key
 bidings, -- etc.), but now sound works...
--
-- So, I haven't figure out what the problem was, I just have to hope it
 won't -- happen again...  and now I have to redo all my desktop
 configuration... -- (Does any one know why backing up .kde and .kderc did
 not work?  Are there -- other files?)
--
-- Thanks,
--
-- Luis
--

KDE does have some strange issues at the moment. An example is that on one of 
my laptops, kcontrol is empty but Lost and Found contains all the links for 
kcontrol. So maybe there is more to this than just that? Or maybe your 
problem is tied to this? But it's just a guess.

Charlie

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Re: No sound with KDE

2006-11-26 Thread M-L
On Monday 27 November 2006 12:00, Luis Finotti shared this with us all:
-- Hi,
--
--
--  KDE does have some strange issues at the moment. An example is that on
 one --  of
--  my laptops, kcontrol is empty but Lost and Found contains all the
 links --  for
--  kcontrol. So maybe there is more to this than just that? Or maybe your
--  problem is tied to this? But it's just a guess.
--
--
--
-- I am not sure if it is related, but I did have that problem...  But for
 that -- I found a fix:
--
--
--
 http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20061113.010424.5d69fba1.en.html
 --
-- (Maybe look at previous messages too.)
--
-- Thanks,
--
-- Luis
--

Thank you Luis, I read that thread as well, but it didn't worry me. If I find 
the links in kcontrol or Lost and Found, what does it matter.

However, I just thought that the same glitch that allowed this to happen, 
might have caused something else to go awry on your system? Which may or may 
not be fixed in the next upgrade?

Charlie

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Re: public key warning

2006-11-21 Thread M-L
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 15:08, Mark Grieveson wrote:
 Hello.  After a recent upgrade of my Etch, I get the following warning:

 Fetched 30.2kB in 9s (3350B/s)
 Reading package lists... Done
 W: There are no public key available for the following key IDs:
 A70DAF536070D3A1
 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

 What does this mean?  Should I be concerned?  Is anyone else receiving
 this warning?

 Thanks,

 Mark

I am, and assumed that there was just a glitch with one of the packages 
signings, or someones ID key being out of date, changed or something similar?

But that could be very wrong.

Be well,
Charlie

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Re: Reload KDE menus without logging out?

2006-11-11 Thread M-L
On Sunday 12 November 2006 08:52, Todd A. Jacobs shared this with us all:
-- I've noticed that occasionally a new program won't show up in my KDE or
-- Debian menus until after I close and restart the X session. Is there a
-- way to force KDE to reread its available menus without logging out
-- first?
--
-- --
-- Unabashedly littering the information superhighway with detritus like
-- this for over 15 years now.
--

The menu updating tool in Settings might be what you need?

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Re: What is this in my syslog????????

2006-11-06 Thread M-L
On Monday 06 November 2006 18:54, Nate Duehr shared this with us all:
-- M-L wrote:
--  I have this in my syslog while downloading the latest updates from
 Debian? -- 
--  My computer drops off the modem. the modem is still connected but ppp
 is not, --  the computer doesn't respond to being on the net/
-- 
--  I don't use chat and wonder if the machine is actually breached by
 intruders? -- 
--  Charlie
-- 
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Virus Infection and Unexpected
 Computer --  Shutdowns^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Affected Software: ^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows NT Workstation
 ^M --  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows NT Server
 4.0 ^M --  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows 2000  
 ^M --  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows XP  ^M --
  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows Win98   ^M -- 
 Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows Server 2003^M -- 
 Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Non Affected Software: ^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows Millennium
 Edition^M --  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Your system is affected, download
 the --  patch from the address below ! ^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: FIRST TYPE THE ADDRESS BELOW INTO
 YOUR --  INTERNET BROWSER, THEN CLICK 'OK
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]:  -- got it
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: send (ATDT019830^M)
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: expect (CONNECT)
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: '.^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: THE ADDRESS WILL DISAPPEAR ONCE
 YOU --  CLICK 'OK'.^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
--  Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]:
--  www.patchupdate.info^M
-- 
--
--
-- This looks a lot like your chatscript for the PPP connection has been
-- overwritten by an e-mail about a virus or similar text message.
--
-- Very strange, but not quite enough to say the box is compromised -- it
-- could simply be that the file somehow got overwritten with an errant cut
-- and paste or similar.
--
-- Definitely worth checking into, though -- look into your /etc/ppp
-- directory and associated files.  Also, you don't mention which (if any)
-- GUI-based dialer that you use, but it could be stored in a configuration
-- file from one of those also -- again, likely an errant cut and paste or
-- similar.
--
-- Go hunting with GREP to find the script or configuation file that
-- contains one of the phrases from that chat log -- like THE ADDRESS WILL
-- DISAPPEAR for example.  Hunt the whole box if you have to, but you
-- should be able to find out where that's coming from...
--
-- Nate

Thanks Nate,

I stopped downloading, on dialup 31.2 kbps [and looking at 8 hours]
Installed chkrootkit which found nothing infected or out of place.

I use pon, is that a GUI dialer?

My system is secure and in full stealth mode according to http://www.grc.com

I will learn how to use grep and see what I can come up with.

This is an Acer lappy, on which I never removed the XP windows system from 
because I needed it straight away, and didn't know if I could get Sarge or 
Etch installed without problems, and was going to blow XP away as soon as 
Etch went stable. So I just shrank the windows partition and created the ones 
I wanted for Etch. It worked and I left it like that for now.

I am wondering if Acer added something as an automagic upgrade. In the BIOS?

But i will try to discover how grep works and find the string.

Thanks again.
Charlie

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What is this in my syslog????????

2006-11-05 Thread M-L
I have this in my syslog while downloading the latest updates from Debian?

My computer drops off the modem. the modem is still connected but ppp is not, 
the computer doesn't respond to being on the net/

I don't use chat and wonder if the machine is actually breached by intruders?

Charlie

Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Virus Infection and Unexpected Computer 
Shutdowns^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Affected Software: ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows NT Workstation ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows 2000   ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows XP  ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows Win98   ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows Server 2003^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Non Affected Software: ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: Your system is affected, download the 
patch from the address below ! ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: FIRST TYPE THE ADDRESS BELOW INTO YOUR 
INTERNET BROWSER, THEN CLICK 'OK
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]:  -- got it
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: send (ATDT019830^M)
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: expect (CONNECT)
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: '.^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: THE ADDRESS WILL DISAPPEAR ONCE YOU 
CLICK 'OK'.^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]: ^M
Nov  6 17:59:41 taogypsy chat[7793]:
 
www.patchupdate.info^M

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Re: Display is jerky...........

2006-11-04 Thread M-L
On Saturday 04 November 2006 21:52, Florian Kulzer shared this with us all:
-- On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 14:02:12 +1100, M-L wrote:
--  On Friday 03 November 2006 13:42, John - shared this with us all:
--   On (03/11/06 12:49), M-L wrote:
--My screen jumps about and in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log I have this
 line:- --   
--(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
--   
--I am wondering if someone might tell me what this means?
--...
--Any suggestions welcome.
--  
--   I had the same problem; one one machine, it was paralyzing. I don't
--   know what it means; hopefully someone who understands better will
--   enlighten both of us. But I did manage to get it to go away by
 adding --   the following two stanzas to /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
--  
--   Section ServerFlags
--   Option  AIGLX off
--   EndSection
--   Section Extensions
--   Option Composite Disable
--   EndSection
--  
--   All the usual warnings apply.
-- 
--  Thanks John, but it didn't change anything for me. Worth a try and
 thanks --  again.
--
-- It is very difficult for us to help you as long as we do not know which
-- video card and driver you are using. Please post the output of the
-- following commands:
--
-- lspci | egrep -i 'video|vga|display'
--
-- awk '/Section
 (Module|Device|DRI|Extensions|ServerFlags)/,/EndSection/'
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf --
-- egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
--
-- --
-- Regards,
--   Florian

Thanks Florian, am on another machine at the moment, but tried those commands 
which you supplied to another on the list.

I never had any problems with vesa previously, but tried via which is what 
it is.

Killed X started X again, and nothing had changed. My xorg.conf was still the 
same but returned to vesa after the reboot. I will have to google the 
method that has been posted on this list to have xorg.conf stick after 
modifications were made it.

I actually think that my graphics card might be slowly getting crook.

Thanks again,
Charlie

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Display is jerky...........

2006-11-02 Thread M-L
My screen jumps about and in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log I have this line:-

(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable

I am wondering if someone might tell me what this means?
This laptop has had no problems previously.

There was a reference about this in Ubuntu and that this should be added to 
the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file:-

Section Extensions
Option  Composite  0
EndSection

But it didn't appear to help.

Any suggestions welcome.

TIA
Charlie

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to hold the universe. Intellectually, we can't see how it could fit. But 
wherever we go, the whole universe always appears, in a cup, in a window, in 
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Re: Display is jerky...........

2006-11-02 Thread M-L
On Friday 03 November 2006 13:42, John - shared this with us all:
 On (03/11/06 12:49), M-L wrote:
  My screen jumps about and in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log I have this line:-
 
  (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
 
  I am wondering if someone might tell me what this means?
  ...
  Any suggestions welcome.

 I had the same problem; one one machine, it was paralyzing. I don't
 know what it means; hopefully someone who understands better will
 enlighten both of us. But I did manage to get it to go away by adding
 the following two stanzas to /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

 Section ServerFlags
 Option  AIGLX off
 EndSection
 Section Extensions
 Option Composite Disable
 EndSection

 All the usual warnings apply.

Thanks John, but it didn't change anything for me. Worth a try and thanks 
again.

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ethernet howto

2006-10-31 Thread M-L
I want to just share files between two laptops and have cat 5e crossover cable 
to do this with ethernet cards in each lappy.

But I have no idea where to start from scratch, have never done this before I 
any way.

Have googled endlessly and found a heap of stuff that wants me to put it 
through a hub with different cabling and wants me to share a modem and all 
sorts of stuff like this. Nothing simple and how I can then access each 
computer. 

I just want to be able to get from one of my machines into the other, to 
transfer a few files and that's it.

Can someone please give me a hint where I can find a simple howto to do this.

TIA
Charlie
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Re: ethernet howto

2006-10-31 Thread M-L
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 11:18, Alejandro Bárcena Campos shared this with 
us all:
 M-L wrote:
  I want to just share files between two laptops and have cat 5e crossover
  cable to do this with ethernet cards in each lappy.
 
  But I have no idea where to start from scratch, have never done this
  before I any way.
 
  Have googled endlessly and found a heap of stuff that wants me to put it
  through a hub with different cabling and wants me to share a modem and
  all sorts of stuff like this. Nothing simple and how I can then access
  each computer.
 
  I just want to be able to get from one of my machines into the other, to
  transfer a few files and that's it.
 
  Can someone please give me a hint where I can find a simple howto to do
  this.
 
  TIA
  Charlie

 Just assign an ip address of the same class to each of your laptops. For
 example: 192.168.0.1  192.168.0.2

 They should be able to stablish a network conection between them...

 Then transfer the files the way you like, by ftp, ssh, rsync, tftp, www,
 etc...

 I guess the easyest way is ssh, just install it, configure it and: scp
 files [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/where/you/want/them/

 --
 Saludos,
 Alejandro Bárcena Campos

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Re: ethernet howto

2006-10-31 Thread M-L
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 11:28, Douglas Tutty shared this with us all:
 On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 11:02:25AM +1100, M-L wrote:
  I want to just share files between two laptops and have cat 5e crossover
  cable to do this with ethernet cards in each lappy.
 
  Have googled endlessly and found a heap of stuff that wants me to put it
  through a hub with different cabling and wants me to share a modem and
  all sorts of stuff like this. Nothing simple and how I can then access
  each computer.
 
 
  Can someone please give me a hint where I can find a simple howto to do
  this.

 You may be having trouble because its so simple (and historically
 fundamental to UNIX-like OSs).  I think everything you need is in the
 debian-reference and anything that's not is in the networking howto.

 Hooking up the cross-over cable takes care of the hardware.
 Ensure that each computer recognizes its ethernet card.
 Edit /etc/hosts and /etc/network/interfaces on each computer
   (you'll have to pick a network, I would suggest 192.168.1.1 and
   192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255 broadcast 192.168.1.255)

 Reboot both (you could do it without but this is simplest).
 Type ifconfig on each and you should see eth0
 from lappy1: ping lappy2
 from lappy2: ping lappy1
 set up ssh on both
 then use scp, the shvfs of mc, sftp, or whatever to actually transfer
   the files.

 Remember, read the debian-reference.

 Doug.

Thanks Doug, I have the Debian reference installed and will go there now.

Thanks again,
Charlie

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Re: Why I left Debian

2006-10-28 Thread M-L
On Saturday 28 October 2006 23:09, Bruno shared this with us all:
-- Hello,
--
-- I really do not want to start any flame here but after all, as I used
 Debian -- for few months, I find honest to say why I'm leaving it.
--
-- So few months ago, I installed etch on my laptop (previously had
 Fedora-5 on -- it) just to try it and because I think is good and
 important to try other -- distros when you have some free partition /
 computer and time to do it. --
-- Hereafter main problems encountered (some recurrent) these last months :
--
-- - as I installed etch around 50% of shutdowns never complete. So common
 that I -- was used to unplug battery simply to shutdown. Same for 'logout
 session' -- which allways freeze the laptop with a new login attempt.
--
-- - recently I had to 'pinning' apt-get (or dpkg..do not remember..) on
 previous -- version because latest version continuously break apt-get
 repository. Only -- cost few hours of googling to find a solution.
--
-- - 'kde su root' reject root password (...which was accepted in a 'su
 root' in -- a console)
--
-- - flgrx / mesa / libGL often block apt-get update/upgrade seems because
 of a -- dependency about libGL. Difficult to install a 3D system but even
 more -- difficult to keep it stable that I decide to forget 3D when using
 etch on my -- laptop.
--
-- - others..sorry only remember hours of googling to find solutions..
--
-- Once again I do not want to start any flame here : indeed Debian is a
 superb -- distro (packaging system is really superb) but, IMHO, dedicated
 to 'Linux -- techies' ?
-- However my conclusion is this week-end I'll move back to Fedora (even if
 yum -- is so far behind dpkg).
--
-- Bye,
-- Bruno

Hello Bruno,

Laptops can be a pig to get working with any distro, especially if they are 
new on the retail counter.

If you're new to Debian or any Linux distro, you will have to do a bit of 
reading a bit of asking and then a bit of tweaking. 

Taking Linux Debian as an example, install stable, Sarge in this case, and 
then check out the problems and try to discover why they are being caused. In 
my own case, I started with Woody, but it wouldn't touch some of the hardware 
in my lappy. So then moved to Sarge while it was testing, and discovered what 
had to be done to get the system up and running, and then moved it to Etch, 
another testing. Where things get broken, but you either have to have the 
patience to be able to work around something till the next upgrade stream, or 
learn the way to fix it yourself.

Linux Debian is a philosophy I think. Not a geeks distro, but rather an 
lifelong learning experience. You are always embarrassed by the options 
available in Debian. But if you're set in your ways, won't use Lyx, Abiword, 
or something else when OpenOffice.org doesn't cut it for you before the next 
update stream in testing. Stay in stable and look at backports.

When you get everything working on your system, in Debian, you have already 
gleaned a great deal of knowledge about your system and the way Debian works. 
Then you hit testing and laffs at things broken for a little while. If you 
only want a stable system that works a treat, then you want any Debian stable 
system, and if it doesn't work with your hardware to do all you want. Run 
your system through a testing version of Debian till it all works, and stay 
there if you feel comfortable with it. There are quite a few people still 
running Debian Woody, because they know it and it works. New hardware or 
something else might move them on. But it will always be their own choice to 
do something that also requires the shift.

There is no best system in Linux, there is only what you want to do, how you 
want to do it, and your outlook on life. I am certain that Fedora is also 
very good. I don;t think their is a bad Linux system, or none that I have 
tried at any rate. But Debian suits me best, because it suits my character.

HTH
Be well,
Charlie

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Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?

2006-10-26 Thread M-L
On Friday 27 October 2006 04:12, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe shared this with us all:
-- Hi,
-- A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
-- winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
-- Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
-- who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
--
-- Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
-- the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
-- them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
-- accurate):
--
-- * audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ Totem]
-- * cd-ripper [  ]
* Desktop Environment [ KDE ]
-- * DBMS [ ]
* development [ Python, GTK+ ]
* disc burner [ XCDRoast-CD growisofs-DVD ]
* e-mail client [ Kmail ]
* file manager [ Konqueror ]
-- * finance [  ]
-- * ftp [ ]
* image editor [Gimp ]
* image viewer [ Kuickshow ]
-- * instant messenger [ ]
-- * mathematics [  ]
* misc utilities [ cat, lsof, top, man, eject, pon, poff, su, dict, ls, 
startx, whereis, mkdir, dmesg, ] -- * p2p [ ]
* package manager [ synaptic ]
* pdf-reader [ xpdf ]
* spreadsheet [ OpenOffice.org ]
* tag editor [  ]
* terminal emulator [ Konsole ]
* text editor [ Kedit ]
-- * 3D animation [  ]
* video player [ Totem]
* web browser [ Konqueror - where it can't go Firefox ]
* word-processor [ Lyx ]
-- * (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg, Gkrellm ]
--
-- note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)

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Re: HOW2 resolve apt-get install kernel-image error ?

2006-10-21 Thread M-L
On Sunday 22 October 2006 06:39, Courtney Thomas shared this with us all:
-- When I
-- apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k7
--
-- I get an error to the effect that:
-- kernel-image-* needs
-- initrd-tools =0.1.48
-- but,
-- initrd-tools-0.1.12 is in place,
-- according to
-- dpkg -l initrd-tools
--
-- How can I cure this dilemma, please ?
--
-- Thank you,
-- Courtney


apt-get install initrd-tools-0.1.12

or 

apt-get dselect-upgrade initrd-tools

Because there might have been an upgrade?

HTH

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KDE root action

2006-10-19 Thread M-L
For a couple of weeks now, when I try to use synaptic package manager as user 
the root password dialogue box comes up, and when I type in the root password 
it tells me that it is incorrect.

This is a KDE password manager problem I think, and I have been hunting a way 
to fix it without any joy.

Can someone please point me to the place this can be fixed in KDE?

Thank you,
Charlie
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Re: KDE root action

2006-10-19 Thread M-L
On Friday 20 October 2006 08:14, Florian Kulzer shared this with us all:
-- On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 22:52:39 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
--  On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:23:58 +1000
--  M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- 
--  Hello M-L,
-- 
--   For a couple of weeks now, when I try to use synaptic package
 manager --   as user the root password dialogue box comes up, and when I
 type in --   the root password it tells me that it is incorrect.
-- 
--  I take it that, like me, when you su and type in the exact same
--  password, everything works as expected.  So far, I've had no joy
 sorting --  this out, but your message has given me a clue as to where
 else to look. --
-- http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2006/10/msg00041.html
--
-- --
-- Regards,
--   Florian

Thanks Florian,

I went back to a /var/apt/archives backup to get this and do this:-

# dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libcvsservice0_4%3a3.5.2-1+b2_i386.deb
(Reading database ... 73882 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libcvsservice0 4:3.5.2-1+b2 
(using .../libcvsservice0_4%3a3.5.2-1+b2_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libcvsservice0 ...
Setting up libcvsservice0 (3.5.2-1+b2) ...

But it doesn't appear to be only that package. Because nothing altered, The 
root password isn't recognised.

I will try downgrading the others that were in the thread as well but later 
and see what happens.

Thanks again
Charlie


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Re: modem: internal or external?

2006-10-18 Thread M-L
On Thursday 19 October 2006 12:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] shared this with us 
all:
-- I'm building a new computer (Etch is installing over dial up now),
-- but all my modems are internal ISA.  So unless I want to have to fire up
-- my 486 just to dial out, I need a new modem.
--
-- The MB has a serial port and I have 3 PCI slots, a PCI-E x 16 and 2
-- PCI-E x1 free. (Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AMD AM2, Athlon 3800+, 1GB ram, lvm
-- on raid1 dual 80 GB Seagate SATA drives).
--
-- What is the current wisdom for a solid reliable modem?  Should I go
-- external via the serial port or internal?  Is USR still the defacto gold
-- standard?
--
-- As far as the computer itself goes, the only advantage of an external is
-- that the bios has a power-on on ring via external modem.  I don't think
-- I need that.
--
-- Thanks,
--
-- Doug.

I have been using a Maestro Woomera eternal modem for 10 years, and it works a 
treat. Has many features, and because I live in the bush, need it for 
impedance matching on the copper wire line.

Used it on a serial port for nearly 7 years and the last 3 or just a bit 
longer on a USB to RS232 cable.

This modem costs a bit more, but is the best value. If you don't think that 
you are getting off dialup soon and carry it with you for mobile net 
connection. The value is unsurpassed. It allows the chip to be flashed for 
the latest firmware, etc., etc..

HTH
Charlie

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Re: password problem in kde

2006-10-17 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 21:26, L.V.Gandhi shared this with us all:
-- As root I can login in konsole. But with same password, I couldn't login
 in -- kde dialog for changing time. First I had en_IN as locale. I changed
 the -- locale to en_US to rectify problem with audacity menus appearance.
 I tried -- to delete encription in /etc/shadow and redone passwd command.
 Still I have -- problem in KDE. Any solution?
--

Etch?

I can use my password everywhere tried, except synaptic at the moment. Since 
the third last upgrade I think? Will probably get fixed soon?

HTH

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Re: video cards, the mouse, Xfree86 and Debian installation.....

2006-10-17 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 21:10, Michael Fothergill shared this with us all:
-- Dear Debian folks,
--
-- I have installed Debian on my PC here.  

Which Debian? Sarge, Etch or Sid?

It runs a 1200MHz Athlon CPU and 
 has -- one 20GB disk on it with Fedora Core 5 on it and now after deleted
 Windows a -- second disk (primary) which is 40GB in size has now got the
 Desktop Debian -- installation on it.
--
-- At least I think it does.
--
-- I have a few questions about the installation process.
--
-- I spent quite a while downloading the 15 or so CD iso images from mirror
-- site using wget and bittorrent (bittorrent was a waste of time - not
 enough -- fellow downloaders).
--
-- I then burnt them to CDs and checked them for integrity one by one with
 the -- Debian installer.
--
-- I installed the OS a number of times but I got problems getting the X
-- windows to work.

As root:-
apt-get install x-window-system-core
or
apt-get install x-window-system

--
-- At the moment the OS is there and boots etc but only in command line
 mode. --

startx


-- But before talking about this I have some other queries.
--
-- When I loaded up the installer it automatically found and configured mu
-- cable broadband.  It looked as though it made use of this to download
 some -- security upgrades while installing from the CDs.
--
-- After I got through the partitioning and base install (it never has a
-- problem with this) I got to the reboot and the tedious entering of
 passwords -- for root and the user.

Booted?

--
-- I then rebooted and fired up the OS.  

Why reboot again?

At this stage it tells you to put 
 the -- first CD in.  It scans through it for what it calls index files. 
 It then -- comes at you with a cryptic instruction that says something
 like If you -- have another CD in your install set please put it in now
 and get it -- scanned.  Well, I've got 15 of them..

Lucky, I have 19 and had a friend download them about 6 weeks ago, maybe 
longer, because I am on dial up.

--
-- We are not talking feather linux here.
--
-- So I experimented with this in a number of installs.  I found that if
 you -- scanned three of the fifteen CDs it seemed to be able give you the
 option of -- installing the Desktop install and the other five or so
 installs webserver, -- print server, donut server, Ronald Reagan neocortex
 server etc, and it then -- seemed to be able to finish the rest of install
 with some bugs in the font -- installation and some other quirks but
 basically it seemed to work. --

Depending what you want as a window manager etc.. You have to scan 10
apt-cdrom add

-- But if you tried to only scan one disk it then omitted the Desktop
 install -- option and only presented you with a choice of the remaining
 five.  If you -- tried to install then it worked ok but of course there
 was no XWindows at -- all just the command line.
--
-- I then tried instaling again and this time I made a mistake of scanning
 the -- first binary twice before the others.  Then there was a problem
 with the apt -- get installation which was fatal and it had to be
 abandoned.
--
-- How many of these CDs should be scanned at this stage for index files?
--
-- All fifteen?

Would be good, but at least 10
--
-- I wish I had a DVD player on this machine.
--
-- I installed again and scanned the first four of the CDs this time and
 then -- installed the Desktop.  My video card is an SiS 630/730 according
 to Fedora. --   I put SiS in at what I think was the video card
 manufacturer choice -- setting in install.

What comes up as default? Try vesa?

--
-- There was then some stuff about Power PCs and video card bus
 identifiers.  I -- do not know what the bus identifier is for the video
 card on this machine -- and I am not sure how to determine this.
--
-- But  it seemed as though it only wanted the video bus identifier to be
-- entered if you were using an Apple PowerPC not an ordinary PC like mine.
--
-- So I left it blank.  Please let me know if I was wrong here.
--
-- I got to the mouse autoconfiguration bit.  I tried this but maybe it
 didn't -- work properly.  It sounded like it thought I had a serial mouse
 but I think -- I have a 3 button PS mouse.

psaux or something like this?

--
-- I think I should reinstall and then choose manual configuration of the
-- mouse.  But maybe there is a way fire up the mouse installation routine
 from -- the command line interface in my current install which does boot
 and run (if -- you think this install is OK based on scanning only the
 first four of the 15 -- CDs for index files).

Nope. probably enough for the mouse
--
-- If you could give me the CLI command for this this would be useful.
--
-- I also did what I could do configure Xwindows but was not successful it
-- seems.

as root:-
dpkg-reconfigure x-window-system

--
-- The monitor I use is a 15 inch CRT Belinea device.   Belinea is not a
-- manufacturer that X seems to know much about.   But I have got X work OK
-- with it in 

Re: how could i scan more cds after installation to use as mirrors ?

2006-10-14 Thread M-L
On Saturday 14 October 2006 16:25, Jabka Atu shared this with us all:
-- Hello...
-- i'd like to add more cds to my debian installation.
-- now i have only 1 cd and i wish to add more 3 dvds.
--
-- thnx in advance.
--

I think it can be found in man apt, though I couldn't in Etch?

apt-cdrom add

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Re: Testing Installation Headache

2006-10-12 Thread M-L
On Friday 13 October 2006 07:31, Peter Hillier-Brook shared this with us all:
 I've just installed Testing on an old 800MHz Pentium III. The
 installation seemed to go fine until the final 2 steps: I wasn't clear
 why a shell was invoked and then, having exited the shell the only
 option left was to abort the installation.

 Booting the new installation went well until the request for a user and
 password (in the GUI - Gnome I assume). Either the user, or the password
 was not recognised both for root and the default user I had created
 during the install.

 My question is; is there any recovery option other than a re-install? I
 have several live CDs and Knoppix comes up fine, although grml doesn't.

 Thanks for any advice.

 Peter HB

I had this same problem with testing [Etch]

The installer didn't finish. I also didn't use the option to install any 
software, just the base system. So I just turned off the computer and allowed 
it to boot.

What I did then was:- login as root

Here are my notes:-

1. Typing # passwd I got it to ask me to type a password. Followed the prompts

2. Created a user, and the password for that as well.

3. Had to add the /etc/hosts file by hand:-

127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost

4. Also the /etc/network/preferences file:-

# Used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8). See the interfaces(5) manpage or 

# /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples for more information.

# The loopback network interface 

auto lo 

iface lo inet loopback

5. The /etc/hostname file:- [with hostname if required]

Rebooted to have it all come together..

6. Then started the package selection, which I prefer to do on my own.

apt-get install through the command line while still logged in as root:-

HTH
Charlie

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Re: problems with CD-Writer (solved)

2006-10-08 Thread M-L
On Monday 09 October 2006 00:24, Brad Brock shared this with us all:
-- Thanks to M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
-- Wodim helps me burn my ISO files to CDs. But I'm still
-- curious with cdrecord. Is it imposible to use cdrecord
-- in my computer..??

I think there has been a fork from the original cdrecord, and its author, 
because of some licensing issues. Debian has decided that it should remain as 
open source software and has removed any code that conflicts with this aim. 
So it is in flux I believe?

--
-- By the way, is there any GUI for wodim?

I don't know. Sorry
--
-- Thank you everybody.


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Re: problems with CD-Writer

2006-10-07 Thread M-L
On Sunday 08 October 2006 00:00, Brad Brock shared this with us all:
-- I've just installed a CD-Writer to my computer. I want
-- to burn an ISO image, but I have problems with
-- cdrecord. Can anybody show me how to use cdrecord
-- properly since cdrecord doesn't seem recognize my
-- CD-Writer? (It fails when I use -scanbus option).
--

Install wodim

This is wodim, not cdrecord. Don't expect it to behave like cdrecord in any
way, don't refer to it as cdrecord. Send problem reports to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], don't bother Joerg Schilling with any
problems caused by this application.
Copyright (C) 2006 cdrkit maintainers, (C) 1994-2006 Joerg Schilling

Lite-On rocks, external or internal on desktops or lappys. So I think you 
should have wodim installed?

HTH
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How to create shadow passwords manually.........

2006-09-25 Thread M-L
My Etch installer doesn't finish the installation, so i have to just reboot, 
and create my own passwords and such from the shell, and a few other things 
by hand.

But these are in /etc/passwd There is no /etc/shadow file.

Apart from creating the /etc/shadow file, how do i create shadow passwords?

TIA
Charlie
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message....... No Subject

2006-09-24 Thread M-L
Using Etch and Kmail.

I receive messages from the Debian User list that are:-

No Subject  Sender Unknown . dated 1970

Shift + Del doesn't work nor does Del but rather creates more of its own 
kind? Cloning itself over others that are deleted from the Debian User 
directory?

But it does this by removing other list posts and they are found in trash as 

No Subject  Sender Unknown . dated 1970

What is this?

TIA
Charlie
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Machine dropout from modem?

2006-09-23 Thread M-L
Using Debian Etch,
Acer 3614WLCi laptop
Maestro Woomera modem through a USB to RS232 cable.

The modem is connected to the ISP but the system has dropped off the modem 
connection.

The modem shows it's connected and yet the laptop isn't connected to it. I try 
to run pon again. Nothing. I try poff It tells me there is no connection 
running.

I manually switch off the modem, switch it on again, the modem tells me it's 
intelligent. I type pon into a terminal, and the modem says dialling, and 
does so and connects again. The lappy picks it up, and is again connected.

Something to do with PPP in Etch?

Would appreciate any help.

TIA,
Charlie
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Re: Machine dropout from modem?

2006-09-23 Thread M-L
On Saturday 23 September 2006 19:43, Mumia W.. shared this with us all:
-- On 09/23/2006 04:14 AM, M-L wrote:
--  Using Debian Etch,
--  Acer 3614WLCi laptop
--  Maestro Woomera modem through a USB to RS232 cable.
-- 
--  The modem is connected to the ISP but the system has dropped off the
 modem --  connection.
-- 
--  The modem shows it's connected and yet the laptop isn't connected to
 it. I try --  to run pon again. Nothing. I try poff It tells me there
 is no connection --  running.
-- 
--  I manually switch off the modem, switch it on again, the modem tells
 me it's --  intelligent. I type pon into a terminal, and the modem says
 dialling, and --  does so and connects again. The lappy picks it up, and
 is again connected. -- 
--  Something to do with PPP in Etch?
-- 
--  Would appreciate any help.
-- 
--  TIA,
--  Charlie
--
-- Can you talk to the modem using minicom?
--
-- I often use minicom to help me test basic modem functionality, such as
-- the ability to send AT commands and receive modem responses.
--
-- In minicom, you're typically talking to the modem, and if you say AT
-- to the modem, it should respond OK; if you say ATI, the modem should
-- respond with its identification, for example, SupraFax 33.6i
--
-- --
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Yes. The modem answers and connects, but the system doesn't read it. Connected 
on minicom, and browsers can't get onto the net, and nothing else either.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Machine dropout from modem?

2006-09-23 Thread M-L
On Saturday 23 September 2006 14:02, Mumia W.. shared these thoghts with us 
all:
-- On 09/23/2006 07:42 AM, M-L wrote:
--  On Saturday 23 September 2006 19:43, Mumia W.. shared this with us
 all: --  On 09/23/2006 04:14 AM, M-L wrote:
--  Using Debian Etch,
--  Acer 3614WLCi laptop
--  Maestro Woomera modem through a USB to RS232 cable.
-- 
--  The modem is connected to the ISP but the system has dropped off
 the --  modem connection.
-- 
--  The modem shows it's connected and yet the laptop isn't connected
 to --  it. I try to run pon again. Nothing. I try poff It tells me
 there --  is no connection running.
-- 
--  I manually switch off the modem, switch it on again, the modem
 tells --  me it's intelligent. I type pon into a terminal, and the
 modem says --  dialling, and does so and connects again. The lappy
 picks it up, and --  is again connected.
--  Something to do with PPP in Etch?
-- 
--  Would appreciate any help.
-- 
--  TIA,
--  Charlie
-- 
--  Can you talk to the modem using minicom?
-- 
--  I often use minicom to help me test basic modem functionality, such
 as --  the ability to send AT commands and receive modem responses. --
 
--  In minicom, you're typically talking to the modem, and if you say
 AT --  to the modem, it should respond OK; if you say ATI, the
 modem should --  respond with its identification, for example,
 SupraFax 33.6i -- 
--  --
--  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- 
--  Yes. The modem answers and connects, but the system doesn't read it.
 Connected --  on minicom, and browsers can't get onto the net, and
 nothing else either. -- 
--  Thanks for your help.
-- 
--
-- Check if the firewall is blocking it.
--
-- I use pppd to connect to the Internet. Some people use pppoe. If you use
-- the debug option of pppd (-debug) you'll get debugging output sent to
-- /var/log/syslog.
--
-- I also use 'chat' to make the initial connection between pppd and the
-- modem device. Chat has a verbose option (-v) that sends chat's input and
-- output strings to /var/log/messages. If you use wvdial in place of chat,
-- see if it has a verbose or debugging option and use it.
--
--
--
-- --
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Thanks for that. I have to admit I didn't think to look in my syslog and see 
what was mentioned there. I will a bit later when I am back on the other 
machine.

But the modem connects all right and remains connected. Is connected to this 
machine also running etch at the moment. Just pppd has dropped off the modem 
a couple of times lately. It doesn't happen all that often, but it happens 
and I thought someone else might have experienced some sort of behaviour like 
this as well. Like the Chinaman said when his horse died, it's never done 
that before.

I will try the pppd-debug option. Have seen it there in the past and never 
thought I needed it. Have had this modem for almost ten years and no 
problems, had it checked through my ISP just recently. I should have it 
connecting a little slower, according to the ISP, but this modem is built to 
make the most out of copper line.

Only since Etch has this been happening and only for the last couple of weeks 
upgrades? So I just wondered?

Thanks for your help, sorry for being so verbose.

Be well,
Charlie

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Re: Debian Love

2006-09-22 Thread M-L
On Saturday 23 September 2006 02:08, Jason Martens shared this with us all:
-- It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
-- thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
-- is such an awesome project.  I love Debian. I love how the system works.
-- I love the quality of the packages.  I love that it lets me do what I
-- want to do, and does not try to dictate how to do things.
--
-- To all of you Debian developers, thank you.  I really appreciate the
-- work you do. Keep it up!
--
-- Jason Martens
-- Debian Lover
--
--

Don't know about moral, but I will add a hearty thank you to the developers 
and all who contribute.

We should get thousands of these then? Because anyone that might use this 
thank you for a bitch, misses the point completely.

Thank you again,
Charlie

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Re: Please help me installing Debian!

2006-09-21 Thread M-L
On Thursday 21 September 2006 03:40, Wahyu Aris Darmono shared this with us 
all:
-- Linux operating system is really new for me. But after
-- collected distro comparison from various sources, I
-- decided to choose Debian.
--
-- I have i386 Debian 3.1 rel. 2 Sarge DVD.  I tried to
-- install it onto my Acer Travelmate 2303 NLCi (laptop).
--  The laptop features are : Intel Celeron M 340
-- processor (1.5 GHz, 400 MHz FSB, 512 L2 cache), 40 GB
-- HDD, 256 MB DDR, DVD/CD-RW combo and 802.11 b/g
-- wireless LAN.
--
-- I tried to install 3 times (automatic installation
-- method by pressing ENTER only). Failed 3 times in
-- network configuration (because there was a problem
-- with DHCP). Also, after reboot and began installing
-- from the harddisk where Debian system exist I found:
-- 
-- Code: 8b 53 24 31 ff 83 7a 08 00 75 0d 66 83 a0 16 02
-- 00 00 fb e9/etc/rcS.d/S36 discover: line 204:  389
-- Segmentation faultmodprobe$MODULE
-- usb-uhci disabled in configuration.
-- Loading ehci-hcd module.
-- 6usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
-- usb.c: registered new driver hub
-- usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 09:05:48 Aug 17
-- 2005
-- usb-uhci.c: High bandwith mode enabled
--
-- and then the installation process stopped!
--
-- Guys, please help me! What should I do?  I really want
-- Debian in my laptop!
--
-- Viva open source, viva Debian!

On both my Acer Aspire lappys have installed from DVD/CD's [slow dialup net 
connection] Sarge and Etch.

On the earlier one there were a few things that didn't go well. One thing was 
that I had to specify vga=788 otherwise I couldn't read the monitor. So at 
the command prompt:- expert vga=788

With the same lappy. If I specified that i wanted PCMCIA located at the start. 
It froze the system solid. Turn off at the mains and start again from 
scratch. If selected during hardware detection process, worked a treat.

Once the system was installed, on the above lappy during the first 5 boots, it 
would freeze twice, turn off at the mains and reboot. It would freeze once 
the first time and then get through the boot after turning it on again. On 
the second occasion when it froze, it would freeze once, turn it on and get 
past that point on the next boot and freeze again. Turn on again and would 
boot up.

This happened on every install, and I installed that system quite a few times 
[at least 8] to get a hang of Debian and the way it worked. But after those 
two freezes during the first boots, never did it again.

I tried to install Sarge with a 2.6 kernel without any joy, all manner of 
errors. The 2.4 kernel went as above. It didn't write a few files properly, 
which needed to be edited by hand, with the help of people from this list, 
who kindly helped me troubleshoot the problems; which were causing my GUI to 
work badly.

Etch installed without any problems, except the installer didn't finish on 
this one either, and I had to enter quite a few things by hand [same as 
mentioned above] once the system booted up. Like the passwords again, system 
name again, /etc/hosts, etc., etc..

On the new Acer lappy, Etch installer didn't complete. Had to edit some files 
by hand as above, but didn't have the boot lockups as the older machine.

Hope this helps.

Charlie

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Re: (no subject)

2006-09-20 Thread M-L
On Thursday 21 September 2006 11:52, David E. Fox shared this with us all:
-- cdrecord? :)
--
-- Well, command line does work, but maybe it's not the best way to do it,
-- it depends on your experience level.

Isn't cdrecord the reason that k3b doesn't work? I have found it so, because 
cdrecord finds my external USB DVD dual layer burner and then vanishes it. 
That was in Sarge, haven't tried it in Etch yet.

XcdRoast finds and uses the burner and is fast. I am not certain if it uses 
cdrecord? But Xcdroast won't burn DVD's without another application which 
isn't free because it isn't in Debian.

Such is life.

Charlie

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Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-14 Thread M-L
On Friday 15 September 2006 07:03, Derek shared this with us all:
-- I dont see how anything apple puts out can bury linux.Ive been using OS
 X -- since 10.1 came out,its really nothing special.I much prefer my Linux
 box. --

Support OS X as well as Linux? Sounds fair.

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Kmail new account created - keeps asking password

2006-09-12 Thread M-L
I had occasion to create an extra, new account in Kmail, and at every boot, or 
every time that Kmail is shut down, then restarted, it asks me for the 
password of that new account.

I am using Kwallet, and that might be the problem. Has anyone any idea where I 
might find a fix for this? I have never used Kwallet in the past.

TIA
Charlie
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Quanta Plus have become unwieldy.....

2006-09-03 Thread M-L
I use Quanta Plus with Debian Etch and of late it has become very slow.

It uses 96% of the CPU with every keystroke, and each keystroke uses this much 
CPU for several seconds. Making the program impossible to use.

I was wondering if anyone else finds this problem and if so, may have 
discovered a solution?

Thanks in advance.

Charlie
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Re: Quanta Plus have become unwieldy.....

2006-09-03 Thread M-L
On Sunday 03 September 2006 19:16, Thierry Chatelet shared this with us all:
-- M-L wrote:
--  I use Quanta Plus with Debian Etch and of late it has become very
 slow. -- 
--  It uses 96% of the CPU with every keystroke, and each keystroke uses
 this much --  CPU for several seconds. Making the program impossible to
 use. -- 
--  I was wondering if anyone else finds this problem and if so, may have
--  discovered a solution?
-- 
--  Thanks in advance.
-- 
--  Charlie
-- 
-- No problem with Quanta 3.5.4
--
That must be Sid, I have quanta: 4:3.4.3-2

Thank you.

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Dial-up modem terminal........

2006-08-31 Thread M-L
Using pon to dial my external Maestro Woomera modem, I don't know how to bring 
up a terminal to talk to it in Debian etch.

When using KPPP I could get into a modem terminal window. With pon, I have no 
idea.

I need this so that my phone line can be checked, apparently.

Thanks in advance,
Charlie
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Re: Dial-up modem terminal........

2006-08-31 Thread M-L
On Friday 01 September 2006 11:11, M-L shared this with us all:
-- Using pon to dial my external Maestro Woomera modem, I don't know how to
 bring -- up a terminal to talk to it in Debian etch.
--
-- When using KPPP I could get into a modem terminal window. With pon, I
 have no -- idea.
--
-- I need this so that my phone line can be checked, apparently.
--
-- Thanks in advance,
-- Charlie

Bad news answering ones own post, but it seems that minicom is what is 
required to talk to the modem.

Thank you.
Charlie

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Re: Scanner rights messed up: please help!

2006-08-24 Thread M-L
On Thursday 24 August 2006 19:10, Christof Hurschler shared this with us all:
-- No one responded to my last post, so I'll try it again.  A previously
 working scanner is no longer accessible for the group scanner.  It works
 under root.  Something seems to have changed in a recent dist-upgrade. --
-- The device is listed as:
--
-- T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=  2 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
-- D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
-- P:  Vendor=04b8 ProdID=0109 Rev= 1.07
-- S:  Manufacturer=EPSON
-- S:  Product=Expression1640XL
-- C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr=  2mA
-- I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none)
-- E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
-- E:  Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
--
-- but ls -la /proc/bus/usb/001
-- total 0
-- dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root  0 2006-08-24 11:35 .
-- drwxr-xr-x 6 root root  0 2006-08-24 11:35 ..
-- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43 2006-08-24 11:35 001
-- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 50 2006-08-24 09:36 002
--
-- where 001:002 used to be root:scanner, allowing scanning by users in
 that group.  Not any more. --
-- I don't know where the rights for this device are beging set, can
 someone suggest a way to solve this problem?  I did find someting about
 setting rights in the documentation for usblib, but have never had to
 intervene in this regard before.  And am not sure if that is the problem
 anyway. --
-- This is the second or thrid time that dist-upgrade has broken my system
 because of a rights problem.  First cups, more recently automounting in
 KDE, and now the scanner problem.  I really like debian, but when printing
 or scanning or access to a usb stick suddenly stops working my debian
 system becomes useless to me. --
-- Chris

I was going to respond to your last post, but didn't really have anything much 
to suggest.
1. a reboot
2. reinforcing that the user is added to the scanner group.

In sarge I had to modprobe scanner, but it seems to be found by your system, 
so that's probably not required.

I also couldn't get Cups working and finally found this:- 
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/55283
Worked a treat. Strangely n another Acer lappy I set up, there was no trouble? 
I think it's just testing, so it is to be expected?

I had an update to my etch, lose my ppp provider file and that had to be 
reconfigured, and then it couldn't find the /dev/ttyUSB0 but a reboot made it 
all come together again without any problems. It's not windows, but it is 
testing, so unusual tactics might need to be applied, just while things are 
in flux.

HTH
Charlie

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Re: How to check ink level on HP Deskjet 5500

2006-08-16 Thread M-L
On Wednesday 16 August 2006 03:11, José Alburquerque shared this with us all:
-- M-L wrote:
--
-- On Tuesday 15 August 2006 16:41, Marc Shapiro wrote:
-- 
-- 
-- This tells me where the printer is, but I still do not know how to
 tell -- CUPS where it is.  Do I put the full URI:
-- 'hp:/usb/deskjet_5550?serial=MY27V1K2BY2L' into the location under
-- 'Modify Printer'?
-- 
-- Any help will be appreciated.
-- 
-- --
-- Marc Shapiro
-- 
-- 
-- 
-- I have been trying to get my USB Epson C43UX printer to work on etch,
 and have -- not yet accomplished it. Worked a treat with Sarge. Seems to
 be found as your -- own.
-- 
-- 
-- On my system, I used a tool called 'foomatic-gui' for configuring my
-- printer.  On my GNOME desktop, there's also another tool called
-- 'gnome-cups-manager' which can be accessed from the
-- Desktop-Administration-Printing menu, which also configures printers
-- graphically.  Both these tools auto-detect printers present on the
-- system.
--
-- If your printer has already been configured, by running one of these
-- tools, it will be present as already configured.
--
-- I don't know if you want to do this (I did and it worked perfectly fine
-- for me, making it easier for me to configure my printer), but if you
-- remove the present printer and simply re-add it (in one of those
-- tools), I'm sure it will auto-detect your printer.  On my system, my
-- printer had to be connected and on for it to be auto-detected so I would
-- suggest that you make sure your printer is both on and connected!
--
-- Finally, I believe there's also a command called 'printconf' which
-- attempts at configuring printers with CUPS on the console.  I never
-- tried this one because I had success with the two tools I mentioned
-- above.  HTH.
--
-- -Jose


Thanks Jose,

But none of this works for me, printconf or otherwise, I still get the same 
error when trying to print, a test page or otherwise:-

Unsupported format 'application/postscript'!

I maybe don't have something installed, but what that might be has me stumped. 
I installed everything I could think of, and still no joy.

Thanks for your help though, more reading and looking.

Charlie

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Re: How to check ink level on HP Deskjet 5500

2006-08-15 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 16:41, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 Marc Shapiro wrote:
  José Alburquerque wrote:
  Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 03:13:46PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
  Is there a utility to check ink levels on HP Deskjet series
  printers?  I looked through the djtools manpage, and, while there
  is some interesting stuff there, I do not see this.  It seems that
  djtools is good for setting parameters for the printer, but not for
  getting information back.  Since it is best not to actually let an
  ink cartridge get completely empty before refilling it, being able
  to check the ink level would be a really handy thing.
 
  If the printer is supported by hplip, then the hplip toolbox would
  probably provide this. there is a gui frontend that works alright and
  there are probably command line options too. not at my desk to provide
  more relevant input.
 
  A
 
  Also, I found a neat gui utility for ink and such things for epson
  printers called mtink by looking for my printer on
  linuxprinting.org.  If something exists for your printer, you'll most
  probably find information for it there also.
 
  I checked hplip (with apt-cache show) and it looks like it does the
  kind of things that I need, but it also says to use hpoj for parallel
  connected printers, which mine is.  The docs on hpoj do not mention
  checking ink levels, but I installed it, anyway.  I do not see any
  mention of it in the installed docs, either.  I will take a look on
  linuxprinting.org and see if there is anything there.
 
  Thanks.

 OK.  I checked linuxprinting.org and it said that hplip should work and
 reminded me that the printer DOES have a USB connection.  So I
 disconnected the parallel port and connected by USB.  The output of
 dmesg shows:

 ohci_hcd :00:03.0: wakeup
 usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 18
 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 18 if 0
 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x6004
 usbcore: registered new driver usblp
 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver

 so it seems to be getting recognized, but nothing prints, now.  I am
 guessing that I need to tell CUPS that the printer is now connected via
 USB, and not the parallel port.  How do I do that?  I have been looking

 through the CUPS documentation, and the output of lpinfo is:
 :/usr/share/doc/cupsys/online-docs# lpinfo -v

 network socket
 direct hp:/usb/deskjet_5550?serial=MY27V1K2BY2L
 network http
 network ipp
 network lpd
 direct parallel:/dev/lp0
 direct usb://hp/deskjet%205550?serial=MY27V1K2BY2L
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp1
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp2
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp3
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp4
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp5
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp6
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp7
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp8
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp9
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp10
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp11
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp12
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp13
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp14
 direct usb:/dev/usb/lp15

 This tells me where the printer is, but I still do not know how to tell
 CUPS where it is.  Do I put the full URI:
 'hp:/usb/deskjet_5550?serial=MY27V1K2BY2L' into the location under
 'Modify Printer'?

 Any help will be appreciated.

 --
 Marc Shapiro

I have been trying to get my USB Epson C43UX printer to work on etch, and have 
not yet accomplished it. Worked a treat with Sarge. Seems to be found as your 
own.

I was told that you add usb:/usb/lp0

I tried this without being able to print.

By the examples given It should be usb://usb/lp0

But that didn't help either.

Maybe it should be:- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp0
But in your text where it sees the printer it uses two // rather than one
I have been working on it for a couple of weeks, but without being able to 
print, and no one appears to know enough to clear this up.

I think I have posted what I did in a previous thread, though it's of little 
use, because it doesn't seem to work.

With what I tried, I get an error message about postscript which i can't post 
here because I am on a different lappy and don't have the exact text.

No help, but maybe it will work for you?

Charlie

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Re: How to check ink level on HP Deskjet 5500

2006-08-15 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 16:41, Marc Shapiro shared this with us all:
-- Marc Shapiro wrote:
--
--  José Alburquerque wrote:
-- 
--  Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
-- 
--  On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 03:13:46PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
-- 
-- 
--  Is there a utility to check ink levels on HP Deskjet series
--  printers?  I looked through the djtools manpage, and, while there
--  is some interesting stuff there, I do not see this.  It seems that
--  djtools is good for setting parameters for the printer, but not for
--  getting information back.  Since it is best not to actually let an
--  ink cartridge get completely empty before refilling it, being able
--  to check the ink level would be a really handy thing.
-- 
-- 
-- 
-- 
--  If the printer is supported by hplip, then the hplip toolbox would
--  probably provide this. there is a gui frontend that works alright
 and --  there are probably command line options too. not at my desk to
 provide --  more relevant input.
-- 
--  A
-- 
-- 
--  Also, I found a neat gui utility for ink and such things for epson
--  printers called mtink by looking for my printer on
--  linuxprinting.org.  If something exists for your printer, you'll most
--  probably find information for it there also.
-- 
-- 
--  I checked hplip (with apt-cache show) and it looks like it does the
--  kind of things that I need, but it also says to use hpoj for parallel
--  connected printers, which mine is.  The docs on hpoj do not mention
--  checking ink levels, but I installed it, anyway.  I do not see any
--  mention of it in the installed docs, either.  I will take a look on
--  linuxprinting.org and see if there is anything there.
-- 
--  Thanks.
-- 
-- OK.  I checked linuxprinting.org and it said that hplip should work and
-- reminded me that the printer DOES have a USB connection.  So I
-- disconnected the parallel port and connected by USB.  The output of
-- dmesg shows:
--
-- ohci_hcd :00:03.0: wakeup
-- usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 18
-- drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 18 if 0
-- alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x6004
-- usbcore: registered new driver usblp
-- drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver
--
-- so it seems to be getting recognized, but nothing prints, now.  I am
-- guessing that I need to tell CUPS that the printer is now connected via
-- USB, and not the parallel port.  How do I do that?  I have been looking
-- through the CUPS documentation, and the output of lpinfo is:
--
-- :/usr/share/doc/cupsys/online-docs# lpinfo -v
-- network socket
-- direct hp:/usb/deskjet_5550?serial=MY27V1K2BY2L
-- network http
-- network ipp
-- network lpd
-- direct parallel:/dev/lp0
-- direct usb://hp/deskjet%205550?serial=MY27V1K2BY2L
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp1
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp2
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp3
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp4
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp5
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp6
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp7
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp8
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp9
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp10
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp11
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp12
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp13
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp14
-- direct usb:/dev/usb/lp15
--
-- This tells me where the printer is, but I still do not know how to tell
-- CUPS where it is.  Do I put the full URI:
-- 'hp:/usb/deskjet_5550?serial=MY27V1K2BY2L' into the location under
-- 'Modify Printer'?
--
-- Any help will be appreciated.
--
-- --
-- Marc Shapiro

On my other laptop for just a moment.

Apart from my previous message, if I select my printer through cups, I get 
this error message when I attempt to print a test page:-

Unsupported format application/postscript'!

I installed hplip and also hp-ppd and nothing changed so purged them both from 
the system.

Still no use, and I have posted under Re: cups newbie, some other things I did 
previously, which were also no use.

Charlie



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Re: cups newbie

2006-08-10 Thread M-L
On Friday 11 August 2006 04:53, Ionel Mugurel Ciobica shared this with us all:
-- Hi all,
--
-- Someone knows few thinks about cups? I am trying to set up a printer
-- and  http://localhost:631 give a page from where if I choose anything
-- the browser just hangs with the message Waiting for localhost
--
-- I have try the hard way, without the webadmin interface, but without
-- any luck. Anything I do ends up with errors. For example thinks like
-- lpadmin -p printer -E -v device -m ppd give:
--
-- lpadmin: add-printer (enable) failed: client-error-forbidden
--
-- or a simple lpinfo -v give:
--
-- lpinfo: cups-get-devices failed: client-error-forbidden
--
-- I changed the LogLevel debug and I found this in the logs:
--
-- PID 2241 stopped with status 13!
-- SendError: 7 code=403 (Forbidden)
--
-- I try to follow some tutorials, howto's and faq's from cups but I
-- can't figure it out... Anyone know why I can't get the
-- http://localhost:631/admin/ to work or what is this
-- client-error-forbidden error and how do I solve it?
--
-- Thank you for your help.
--
-- Ionel
--
--
-- P.S. I run sarge and all install is standard (via apt-get), no custom
-- packages.
--
--

I am not certain that this will help, but I have had quite a bit of trouble 
with Cups in etch, for many days now, and still don't have it working. I have 
had some help from my LUG and it seems my problem might be udev, and I have 
to read up on that.

So here is what I have done so far and what has been advised in case yours is 
not a udev problem.

With cups 1.2.2-1 for an Epson C43UX printer

# adduser to lpadmin so that you don't have to be root.

This was suggested:-

From the CUPS forum, an 'lpinfo -v' should include entries like -
   direct usb:/dev/usb/lp0
   direct usb:/dev/usb/lp1
   direct usb:/dev/usb/lp2
   direct usb:/dev/usb/lp3
   direct usb:/dev/usb/lp4

My result was:-

# lpinfo -v
network socket
network beh
network http
network ipp
network lpd

This was suggested:-

Does your system report anything like that? Do you need to modprobe usblp?

My result was there was no return from that command.

The next suggestion was this:-

Does the CUPS backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb exist? is it executable?

My answer to both was yes

This was also contributed by someone having a problem like my own but the 
printer still didn't work:-

A bit of googling [1] discovered  that I should
mkdir /dev/usb
mknod /dev/usb/lp0 c 180 0

I did these things, and next time I started cups, the printer was 
detected, and I only had to press the add print button for it to be 
added. interestingly the printer uri was 
usb://EPSON/Stylus%20COLOR%20760. Things were looking good.
I went to the printer page and pressed print test page button.
The job was added, and the printer status changed to Printer not 
connected, retrying in 30 sec

These were supplied as worth reading:-

[1]  http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x342.html
http://nuclear.ucdavis.edu/protected/computing/usb_printing.txt
http://osr600doc.sco.com/en/PR_gimpprint/x456.html   - has a word of 
caution re: USB printers
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=7529sid=14b5d9daf313e4642ed13847983e5b24
  

In dmesg my printer is detected thus:-

drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 5 if 0 alt 0 
proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0005
usbcore: registered new driver usblp
drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver

At the end I get this:-

Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsldp: driver loaded but no devices 
found.

This was the final suggestion:-

From your reports, it seems the required device (/dev/usb/lpx) isn't 
present, which is starting to point towards udev, if indeed etch uses 
udev.  If so, then I don't think explicitly creating the device with 
mknod will see it persist through a reboot.  Udev does wonderful magic, 
but it can be horrible to deal with when it fails to perform the magic 
you need.

Hope this helps, and if you get your printer to work, could you please post to 
this list, as I had no problems with this printer in sarge, using an earlier 
version of cups. There is at least one other that is having problems.

Thank you.
Charlie


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Re: /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrw both point to the writer

2006-08-09 Thread M-L
On Wednesday 09 August 2006 08:58, H.S. shared this with us all:
-- Whenever I reboot my Debian Etch, running 2.6.15 or 2.6.16, both
-- /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrw links point to the same device /dev/hdd which
-- is a CD writer. The CD reader drive, /dev/hdc, is apparently not
-- detected to have a link created. I always have to recreate the
-- /dev/cdrom link to /dev/hdc for it to work. However, the drive does work
-- by just using /dev/hdc though.
--
-- Am I missing something here? I was expecting that /dev/cdrom should be
-- pointing to /dev/hdc and /dev/cdrw should be pointing to /dev/hdd.
--
-- I have udev 0.093-1 and use KDE, if it matters.
--
-- thanks,
-- -HS
--

Had the same problem, etch only found the external USB CDROM drive that it had 
been installed with. So I made 2 entries in /etc/fstab

/dev/scd0   /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/hdb/media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/sr0/cdrom2   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 
  0
/dev/hdc/media/cdrom2   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0

So I made 2 entries in /etc/fstab The last two. The first were created by the 
installer. The second two were created by me.

Might have to reboot to get them recognised.

Hope that helps.

Charlie

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serverauth files - Never before seen..

2006-08-05 Thread M-L
Using Debian Etch on an Acer 3614 WLCI lappy

In my /home directory these files are created:-

.serverauth.3861
.serverauth.3862
.serverauth.3863

etc., etc.,

What process creates them, and why? Though the answer might be the one, and 
why do they keep building up in number and never being deleted? That might 
also be answered by knowing what process creates them?

Thanks in advance.
Charlie
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Re: Laptop freeze after 'end current session' or 'shutdown'

2006-07-30 Thread M-L
On Sunday 30 July 2006 14:25, Bruno Costacurta shared this with us all:
-- Hello,
--
-- my laptop often freeze after end 'current session'
-- or 'shutdown' operations. I'm using etch on an Acer Aspire 9100.
--
-- Difficult to give more details as nothing is displayed but computer
-- is still on (ie. fan is running..etc..) and I have to remove
-- alimentation (sector+battery) to switch it off.
-- Even more tricky as this freeze happens not allways but around 50%.
--
-- Thanks for any clue, or ways to grab more information (dedicated log
 files ?) -- about what happens when related fonctions 'end current session
 / shutdown' -- are called.
--
-- Bye,
-- Bruno
--
--

I have two Acer laptops and both shutdown without any problems, and I also 
live where the heat is intense and similarly find them both very efficient 
with their cooling.

I run etch on one, 3614WLCi and this shuts down by itself, but I have to admit 
I always do that as root. in the GUI through a shell, shutdown -h now Or 
just get out of the GUI and do similarly.

The other an Acer Aspire 1350 has been running sarge since it was unstable, 
and shutdown the same way. I use both as desktops. Simply because we run on 
solar power alone. Just being upgraded to Etch now.

But maybe doing it the long way doesn't suit everyone. In Fact I don't even 
know how to do it otherwise now I come to think of it?

HTH

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kmail won't send attachments.

2006-07-24 Thread M-L
Using Kmail in Sarge and it won't send attachments, only text mail.

Deleted ~/.kde and ~/.kderc from the home directory and reconfigured kde, but 
didn't make any difference.

Got Kmail from backports but that didn't change the behaviour.

Googled and found a reference to a bug filed back in 1998, but imagine that 
would have been fixed.

I would appreciate any help with this.

Thanks in advance,
Charlie
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Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread M-L
On Friday 14 July 2006 03:47, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote this for perusal by us 
all:
-- Sean Perry on Thursday 13 Jul 2006 01:37 wrote:
--
--  That said, most laptop batteries degrade performance significantly if
--  left plugged into the mains 24/7. So only plug in for refills.
--
-- That's scary.
--
-- I've been using my laptop 24/7 plugged into the mains.
--
-- Can you refer me to some documentation which details about it ?
--
-- Thanks,
-- Ritesh
-- --
-- Ritesh Raj Sarraf

My first laptop, some obscure name I no longer recall, back in the middle 90's 
had a battery that lasted for over 5 years, till it finally was only good for 
a few minutes.

It was running a windows system. It was run off generator electricity because 
we had no other, and a desktop would be broken by that rough electrical 
power.

When running on battery and the warning came up to save and switch to 
electrical power, I didn't do so. I just saved and shut down all programs 
except the card game and played that till the battery gave up and the laptop 
went down. This was to ensure that the battery didn't get a memory of any 
kind. Every time I turned on the computer it had to check disks etc.. But it 
didn't hurt the machine or the operating system.

My current Acer 1350 lappy I run the same way. But have only had it for 2 
years. There is no noticeable battery power loss as yet? [touch wood] But 
unlike the firt laptop, I don't run it on generator till the battery is 
charged, then on battery till its depleted, then on generator again. But I do 
use it as a desktop, but without the battery much of the time, because we 
have solar power now, when there is sufficient sunlight.

HTH
Charlie

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Re: mixing aptitude and synaptic

2006-05-22 Thread M-L
On Monday 22 May 2006 17:39, Chris Lale wrote this for perusal by us all:
--- Black Dew wrote:
---
---  kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
--- 
---  Is it OK to mix aptitude and synaptic? I know that it is not good to
---  mix apt-get and aptitude. But what about using synaptic sometimes
 and ---  aptitude sometimes? any suggestions?
--- 
---  Please CC me on the replies as I am not subscribe to d-u.
--- 
--- 
---  Both synaptic and aptitude are just front ends to apt, it shouldn't
 be ---  a problem to use any combination of them
--- 
--- 
--- I don't think that this is true. Aptitude is not a front end for
--- apt-get. That said, I use both interchangeably with no problems.
---
--- There is one snag. Aptitude keeps a note of packages that have been
--- installed manually (as opposed to being installed automatically as
--- dependencies). The result is that it assumes that any packages
 installed --- using Synaptic were not manually installed. This means that
 Aptitude --- sometimes wants to remove a number of your packages because
 it assumes --- that they are no longer needed. The solution (thanks to
 Magnus Therning --- in a previous post) is to run
---
--- # aptitude unmarkauto --schedule-only '~i'
---
--- before running Aptitude commands.
---
--- Hth,
--- Chris.

I use apt-get and synaptic and find no problem whatsoever. But it will work as 
it seems aptitude does, if I want to mark smart updates. It will then attempt 
to remove programs to upgrade others. If that is not invoked, then all runs 
as it should.

Charlie
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faith is to believe in our essential oneness with Him. God is in us and we 
in Him must be made the most fundamental faith of all religions. 
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Re: cdrdao question

2006-05-18 Thread M-L
On Friday 19 May 2006 09:39, Jude DaShiell wrote this for perusal by us all:
--- The examples in the man page don't appear to cover this job unless I'm
--- reading something and it's just flying by.  How could cdrdao be used to
--- burn an already existing iso image to a cdr disk?  cdrecord in stable
--- version for kernel 2.4.x just ejects a blank CD and claims it can't
 find a --- CD in the drive after that but then again that package has as
 debian-bugs --- states it a great bug in that it fails to allocate a scsi
 buffer if I --- recall properly.

I think with the 2.4 kernel you have to enable hdc or 
whatever=ide-scsi to burn CD's

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Re: System hangs at boot

2006-03-18 Thread M-L
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:48 pm, Leo Britto submitted, for all our perusal:
 Hi everyone,

 I have a Debian Sarge 2.6.8 running on my laptop and I
 finally got my wireless adapter to work. But when I
 reboot it I just cant go pass the jabberd startup.
 Earlier it was hanging on the MTA startup so I
 apt-get remove exim4-base and got rid of it just to
 find out that the problem is after it.

 WhenI boot in the safe mode (no services i guess) I
 can get to the bash w/o problems, start my wireless
 and use it.

 How can I found what is causing this problem?

 Thanks for any help,

Not certain if this is any help. However, I have installed Debian on this 
laptop about 10 or so times for different reasons, and after a new install on 
every occasion It has hung twice on different areas of the boot process. 
Usually within the first 10 boots. Then never hung again.

This last time this happened after about 30 boots, hung, I rebooted, hung, I 
rebooted and never hung again.

Why it does this, what the system fixes within the software, I have no idea? 
But it does this without fail, though always on the 2..4.xx kernel. Self 
adjusting?



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Re: ready to use debian or ubuntu laptop reccomendations?

2006-03-01 Thread M-L
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:25 am, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote:
 Britton Kerin wrote:

 I would like to buy my non-linux girlfriend a ready to
 use laptop with:
 
wireless scan, falling back to CAT5 DHCP
open office
CD ROM that automounts
SD card reader that automounts
working sound card
reasonable memory and disk
working video acceleration (at least a bit)
 
 The last item is nonessential, needed only to make
 X more comfortable, not for games or anything.
 
 I can spend about $1000, though it seems like they
 should be available for less given the windows crud
 that is out there and the supposed high cost of
 Windows XP.
 
 Is it possible to get such a system?  I tried with
 linuxcertified but the system she got was broken in
 a variety of ways.  I'd really appreciate it if
 anyone has any reccomentations of a model that they
 know from personnal experience will work.
 
 Usually, personal experiences are with laptops that are now out of
 date.  (ie, they'll recommend their laptop after they've used it for a
 month or  so - which happens to be when the laptops have stopped being
 sold). 
 Windows is very expensive *UNLESS* you get some sort of volume
 discount  or you purchase it with your computer.
 I have heard of places where windows cost $30 AUD or less, due to
 these  deals with MS.

 You can spend $1000 What currency?  $1000 AUD will get you a laptop,
 but afaik, only DELL can get one that cheap, and it will not have
 hardware accelleration.

 I have a (fairly expensive) laptop, which has a SD Card reader,
 however  the reader does not work in linux.  If price is a concern, I
 suggest an  external adapter.


I have found much as the above. With laptops you are very much on your own, 
and that means a willingness to play around and read extensively. There are 
experiences with laptops written up, but when the hardware list is negotiated 
it is quickly revealed that some changes have been made which doesn't apply 
to what's been posted.

So you just have to suck it and see, and hope that you know enough or can find 
the reference on the net, that will allow you to get your lappy working as 
best you can. That is unless you buy or intend to buy something refurbished, 
as long as the people who refurbished it will let you know if something which 
isn't standard in the original machine has been added. Then you might find 
something relevant on the net.

Laptops move just a little to quickly in the market to make setting them up 
easy to follow from experiences and instructions from a previous user. 
Sometimes you can find information that applies to your laptop general model, 
and get information from another laptop writeup, that will help you with a 
particular type of software inserted in your own.

It's not impossible to get a laptop working well in Linux, but it can take 
time.

YMMV


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