Re: Re[2]: bbdb-initialize in .emacs

2001-08-29 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael A. Miller) writes:

> I'm trying to set up bbdb and am unclear on the process for the
> bbdb package.  The docs (/usr/share/doc/bbdb/README.Debian) say
> that to enable bbdb support, I need to  add a call to
> bbdb-initialize in my .emacs.  So I added

I presume someone already got back to you, but you probably also need
a

  (require 'bbdb)

before the initialize statement in your .emacs.  Bbdb doesn't appear
to do this automagically (it's commented out in the
/etc/emacs20/site-start.d/50bbdb-init.el file), and that's good thing
because it makes it possible for people to choose whether or not they
want bbdb, and it also makes it much easier for users to install/use
local versions.

Hope this helps.

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Re: emacs 20.5a uploading (Possibly important Y2K fixes).

1999-12-22 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes:

> Did you miss Miles Bader's correct message about emacs version
> numbering?

No.  His email prompted my question.  I didn't realize he was *sure*,
and I wanted to double check before I go make irreversable (well
without using epochs) changes in the Debian package.

The real problem was that I didn't notice the release of 20.5 until
20.5a was available.  If I had seen 20.5, then I wouldn't have been
confused.  I must not be on the right emacs list for announcements...

> Emacs 20.5a IS newer than emacs 20.5.

Thanks.

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emacs 20.5a uploading (Possibly important Y2K fixes).

1999-12-22 Thread Rob Browning

I'm very happy that there weren't any serious upstream conflicts to
integrate so I was able to package it quickly.  It's uploading now,
but I'm on a slow connection ATM, so it might be a while...

Although I've been told there are some y2k fixes in this version, I
haven't carefully evaluated the diffs.  This is just an upstream
bug-fix release, so no new features.  If someone's willing and able,
this should probably be considered for the slink-y2k package set too.

Let me know if there are any problems.  I'm travelling at the moment,
so my access may be a bit irregular.

Thanks

P.S. The version number is 20.4.pre20.5a-1.  This avoids the problem
with the fact that the upstream tarfile's version 20.5a sorts (via
dpkg) as newer than 20.5 which hasn't been released yet.  Epochs would
be another solution, but I haven't decided whether or not I like that
better, and the packaging manual seems to lean against it.  FWIW

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Re: LogCheck and it's rules

1999-12-16 Thread Rob Browning
"Paul J. Keenan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 
> The logcheck script is in /usr/sbin/logcheck.sh - the script uses
> grep to do the pattern matching.  From the source and the grep(1)
> manpage, it seems that for the lines to include in the log
> (logcheck.hacking and logcheck.violations) the matching is
> case-insensitive, but for the exclusions (logcheck.violations.ignore
> and logcheck.ignose) the matching is case-sensitive.  HTH.

Actually, the Debian package uses egrep.  Check the script.  That's
why (as you correctly stated) you need \[.  I filed bugs against the
docs and against the included default patterns a while ago, and I
believe it's being fixed.

For example, here are some (correct?) patterns I added:

uservd\[[[:digit:]]+\]: call connected$
uservd/check\[[[:digit:]]+\]: uservd\[[[:digit:]]+\] is running$
named\[.*\]: Cleaned cache of .* RRsets
named\[.*\]: USAGE .* .* CPU=.*/.* CHILDCPU=.*/.*
named\[.*\]: NSTATS .* .* A=.* PTR=.* =.*
named\[.*\]: XSTATS .* .* RR=.* RNXD=.* RFwdR=.* RDupR=.* RFail=.* RFErr=.* RErr
=.* RAXFR=.* RLame=.* ROpts=.* SSysQ=.* SAns=.* SFwdQ=.* SDupQ=.* SErr=.* RQ=.*
RIQ=.* RFwdQ=.* RDupQ=.* RTCP=.* SFwdR=.* SFail=.* SFErr=.* SNaAns=.* SNXD=.*


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ATTN: stalin users (slightly OT)

1999-10-11 Thread Rob Browning

Apologies for the slightly off-topic message, but I know of no other
way to reach the Debian stalin users.

The upstream author Jeffrey Siskind has asked if I could ask those who
find stalin useful to send him a message stating such.  He needs
feedback to use during his evaluation to convince his employers to
allow him to keep spending time on this project.  Taking a few moments
to contact the him will translate fairly directly into corporate
support for a free software project if enough relevant people do it.

Thanks

Here's specifically what he asked:

From: Jeffrey Mark Siskind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: stalin: patch for sparc compile.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:42:33 -0400
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for the patch. It looks OK to me.

BTW, is there any way to get a measure of how many people are using Stalin
through Debian? I'm going through my evaluation now and it would help me if I
could say to my committee something like `at least n people are using Stalin
as obtained through Debian'. Even better would be feedback from users. One or
two line statements are fine. Something like `I use Stalin to support my
research in widgets. I find that for my task, code compiled by Stalin runs x%
faster than code produce by Foo-C, the previous Scheme compiler that I was
using. Without Stalin, I would not be able to conduct my research.'
Jeff (http://www.neci.nj.nec.com/homepages/qobi)

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Re: Minor inittab/serial console question...

1999-09-16 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes:

> I know what you want. You want to run "minicom" in a "screen" session.
> Start it once, detach it whenever you want, attach it later.

Hmm.  Interesting.  I've never used screen.  I'll have to see how it
works.  I was worried about security, but if screen forces you to
authenticate whenever you attach to a session, then that might work
well.  Would there be any reason I wouldn't want to have this session
started at boot time as some desginated user so that it's always
capturing that serial port's output?  Also, I wonder if minicom can be
configured to log all the I/O during a run...  I'll go see when I get
a chance.

Thanks

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Re: Minor inittab/serial console question...

1999-09-15 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Paul McHale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Can you boot Linux without a video card installed ?  I would have thought
> >the BIOS would have had a problem with that ...
> 
> Yup, works just fine. In fact, if you have the serial console support
> compiled in, the kernel will detect that you don't have a VGA console
> and automatically use /dev/ttyS0 as console.

And for the final touch, you can tell lilo about the serial port and
have it use that too.

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Re: emacs or xemacs ?

1999-09-15 Thread Rob Browning
"Richard E. Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> also, using emacs on CCIE (*Control Key In Exile) keyboard, causing
> enough long reaches on my little finger sthat I had to see a quack,
> is probably part (put a minor part) of my avoiding either.

You probably know this, but you can easily remap caps-lock etc. to be
control...  Also, you can get a better keyboard for about $3 at
goodwill here.  Of course that still won't help you if you prefer
vim ... nothing will :>

(holy-war-aversion-disclaimer: Yes, that was a joke, and yes, I prefer
 emacs, but no, I don't think it's for everyone, and yes, I have used
 vi (minimally), and can understand the appeal.)

FWIW

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Re: sb live card under debian

1999-09-15 Thread Rob Browning
"Jim Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there a driver for the sound blaster live card?
> I have the sb.o module installed but don't quite get how to get it started,
> it says i/o icq and dma is required.
> 
> so I'm not show to do the i/o as it don't like i as an argument.
> 
> modprobe i=6500 o=651f irq=9 dma=1

As far as I know the SBLive is completely unusable under Linux, and
Creative Labs is refusing to give any programming info for the card so
there may not be a free-software driver in the near future.

But you can get good PCI cards that are supported for about $20 now,
so it's not that big a deal.  See www.alsa-project.org for one list of
supported cards.

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Re: Minor inittab/serial console question...

1999-09-15 Thread Rob Browning
Seth R Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Rob, why not do everything via telnet or ssh? two network cards can be had
> for under $50 if the machines don't already have network cards..

The serial console is to handle cases where the machine can't even
boot to the telnet or ssh stage.  This machine is critical, so even if
it goes down when I'm away, I want to be able to dial up another
machine on it's local net and reach it's console via the serial port.
Then I can fix whatever's wrong (even lilo problems) and reboot it
(via X10 power cycling).

It's also just nice to be able to watch the machine's boot messages
now and then without having to put a video card in there to make sure
everything's OK.

> (sorry for the lack of real response, I don't know how to do what you
> want... so I will try to find out why you want it. :)

Well, now that I think about it, I'm not sure I want what I thought I
wanted.  I wasn't thinking too clearly last night (too much time spent
setting up a mess of stuff).  What I'd really like is some little
daemon on the machine connected to the headless machine that watches
and logs the serial port output, and that you could connect to
whenever you wanted (access would be exclusive) to communicate with
the other machines console and to page back through the log.  That
daemon would "own" the port.  Sort of a virtual virtual terminal...

For now I get 90% of what I want just using minicom, so I'll probably
just stick with that...

Thanks

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Re: script command question

1999-09-15 Thread Rob Browning
Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Cool. Thanks. I needed an example of how to get the script to
> receive the text to be filtered. This'll help a lot. Thanks again.

You might also be interested in the filterm program from the konwert
package.  I came across that today and from a brief inspection, I
recall that it may do what you want.

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Minor inittab/serial console question...

1999-09-15 Thread Rob Browning

I've set up one of my headless machines to use ttyS0 as a serial
console, and I've also set it up to run getty on that port after it
finishes booting.

Using minicom from another machine, I can monitor the other machine's
serial port and see that everything works fine.  After it boots, I can
log in, etc, and I can even interact with LILO using it's "serial="
option, but now I'd like to set it up so that the non-headess machine
automatically puts its ttyS0 (the one connected to the headless
machine's serial console) on one of its virtual terminals.  Is there
an easy way to do that?

I've hunted around the HOWTOs and linux/Documentation/* and I can't
find anything relevant.  Any help or RTFMs would be appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: How to remove a user

1999-06-17 Thread Rob Browning
David Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I think you issue the command
> 
>   userdel -r username
> 
> to remove both user, the home directory and files, but RTFM 
> to be sure.  

Note that this won't get any files the user might have in locations
other than their home directory, and I don't know if it deletes their
group (though it probably does).  To find and delete all the files the
user owns, you'll need something like this (as root):

  find / -name username -o -group usergroup > /tmp/usersfilelist

Then you can delete all the files in usersfilelist.

This probably won't catch things like the user's crontab or any "at"
tasks.  You'll have to handle those manually, and to be truly safe,
you need to lock the user out before doing this (I've forgotten the
magic command for that, but you can just change their password with
passwd and use who or w to make sure they're not currently logged in).

Hope this helps.

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Re: ldap/pam problem

1999-06-17 Thread Rob Browning
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I used this complex invokation, you'll need an appropriately bug-fixed pam
> library (Ben, you have my patches..)

That's nice.  Thanks.  That solves at least part of my problem, though
I'm beginning to think that we may be better off cobbling up something
here that's more tailored to our needs and quit spending so much time
dealing with fairly bleeding edge stuff.

I may give it one more go tomorrow...

Thanks again.

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ldap/pam problem

1999-06-16 Thread Rob Browning

Before I ask more detailed questions, I wanted to know if I really
need to edit the /etc/pam.d files presuming that I've modified my
/etc/nsswitch.conf file?

If so, then when I tried those modifications, I couldn't figure out
how to get reasonable behavior.  If you have 

  auth   sufficient pam_ldap.so
  auth   required   pam_unix_auth.so try_first_pass

then if the entry is found in ldap, pam returns and you never execute
things like motd, etc. which is not what you want.

Presuming that setting up /etc/nsswitch.conf is sufficient, I still
can't get things to work.  If I try to log in as a normal (non-ldap)
user, everything's fine, and I can see that it's asking the ldap
server for the user and getting no answer (as an aside, it looks like
it's asking the ldap server for a bunch of fields that the
MigrationTools didn't create (shadowmax, shadowmin, etc)).  Then it
lets that user log in as usual based on their shadow passwd entry.

However, if I try to log in as stray (which is the user that has no
shadow passwd/group entry, but has an ldap entry), it never even asks
the ldap server, it just fails.  If I try su instead, I get "su:
problem establishing PAM_RUSER" also with no attempt to contact the
ldap server.

I think I got my pam_ldap.conf right -- the relevant lines should be:

  base ou=People,dc=localnet
  pam_filter objectclass=account

My nsswitch.conf reads as indicated in the libnss-ldap readme:

  passwd: files nis ldap
  group:  files nis ldap
  shadow: files nis ldap

(I didn't know about shadow, but I presumed it should be the same as
 the others).

And I can tell that the entry for stray is in the ldap database
because I can see it with ldapsearch:

  $ ldapsearch -h localhost -v -b ou=People,dc=localnet "(& (uid=stray) 
(objectclass=account))"
  ldap_init( localhost, 0 )
  filter pattern: (& (uid=stray) (objectclass=account))
  returning: ALL
  filter is: ((& (uid=stray) (objectclass=account)))
  uid=stray,ou=People,dc=localnet
  uid=stray
  cn=stray
  objectclass=top
  objectclass=account
  objectclass=posixAccount
  loginshell=/bin/bash
  uidnumber=1008
  gidnumber=1008
  homedirectory=/home/stray
  gecos=,,,
  1 matches

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Some email bounces = misconfigured exim?

1999-06-16 Thread Rob Browning
George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This is also a correct method. By setting your HELO to the name your IP
> address resolves to, you are assured of delivery to most every site that
> accepts mail from ISP dialups.

Right.  I get the same effect (though there's a minor bug because DNS
isn't always happy as soon as the IP address changes) from my dhcpcd
script with exim like this:

  #!/bin/sh
  source /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth1.info
  logger echo "`date` dhcpcd-sv: IP address changed to $IPADDR"

  RR_NAME=`host ${IPADDR} ${DNS} | grep Name | cut -b 7-`

  # Tell exim what happened.
  (cd /etc && \
   perl -pi -e "s/^RR_HOSTNAME = (.*)/RR_HOSTNAME = ${RR_NAME}/o" exim.conf)

  exit 0

And I just have this in my exim.conf file:

  # This is who we want to be known as.  It also affects the outgoing
  # HELO messages, so you want it to match exim's outgoing IP

  RR_HOSTNAME = cs2868-35.austin.rr.com

  primary_hostname = RR_HOSTNAME

etc.

> Note that many mailhosts not only refuse mail from blocks of IP
> addresses that are known dialups but also reject mail from
> hostsnames including such patterns as "cust" or "dialup" or
> "dynamic"

Yep.  I haven't really had a problem (that I know of) with this, but
it's a choice between two evils.  If I do this, I risk being shut out
by people that block dynamic ip's, but if I use the RR smtp relay,
then I'm relying on RR to keep their server up and well maintained and
that doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling either...

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Re: Further work on LDAP passwords (working on an ldap-adduser).

1999-06-15 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Yup, it's at http://www.umich.edu/~dirsvcs/ldap/doc/guides/slapd/

Thanks.  I don't know how I overlooked that.

I noticed in the README for libpam-ldap that you need to use some
secure socket mechanism if you really want an ldap setup to be secure.
Is there a doc somewhere that explains the best way to set that up?
The README mentions several alternatives (CRAM-MD5 and SSL/TLS), but I
don't know enough to know which would be preferable or how to set them
up.

Also, I'm wondering if it would be useful (if it hasn't been done
already) to generate chsh and chfn replacements (like the passwd one)
to handle changing the attributes in the ldap server rather than
locally when the user's info is in ldap.  I suppose this would require
augmentation of the pam-apps package...

Is there any overriding plan to integrate all this stuff?  What would
be nearly ideal is if there were a config file somewhere where you
could just tell the system that all user accounts should be handled by
ldap and have all the appropriate tools do the right thing.  This
looks like the direction things are going with libpam-ldap, but I
didn't know if that was the final goal.

Thanks

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Re: Further work on LDAP passwords (working on an ldap-adduser).

1999-06-15 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Yea, this one stumped me for quite a while to. From section 5.3 of
> the Slapd administrators guide: NOTE: The DN pattern specified
> should be "normalized", meaning that there should be no extra
> spaces, and commas should be used to separate components. An example
> normalized DN is "cn=Babs Jensen,o=University of Michigan,c=US". An
> example of a non-normalized DN is "cn =Babs Jensen; o=University of
> Michigan, c=US".

Is the Slapd administrator's guide available on-line, or is that the
actually published book you're talking about?

> So you need to get rid of the spaces in your access line. i.e.:
> 
> access to * by dn="cn=admin,ou=People,dc=localnet" write

Ooh, nasty.  This was exactly the problem.  Thanks so much for the
help.  No one would have wanted to be around me by the time I would
probably have figured this out myself...

> I'll go ahead and report this to the openldap maintainer.

Great, thanks.

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Re: Further work on LDAP passwords (working on an ldap-adduser).

1999-06-15 Thread Rob Browning
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You use the same technique as ethernet basically, both add and check
> if their was only one added (using a search on the ID they added)
> then remove and retry a new id after a delay.

Oh, right, of course.

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Re: Further work on LDAP passwords (working on an ldap-adduser).

1999-06-14 Thread Rob Browning
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You don't really need this, just a simple detect/backoff algorithm will do
> OK for determining the UIDs

Could you elaborate?  If you have at least two machines, I can't see
how you don't have to have a shared locking mechanism to make sure
they don't both try to add the same user to the ldap database with
different uid's, or are there some ldap semantics that allow you to
avoid the race condition.
  
> >   2) get the next user id (how?). [1]
> 
> The only way I could see is to suck down the entire UID list and pick the
> highest, it is a big search, but ldap doesn't have a mechanism for
> integer value compares so it is the best I could think of.

It won't be that big here.  Ldap's only going to be managing the local
users, and there will only be a handful or two.  And if I just mandate
that all account maintenance (add/delete/modify) be handled from a
single machine, I could just store the last uid/gid in a local state
file.  This would also avoid the problems in the previosu point above.

> >   5) Run a script to do whatever's needed to create the user's home
> > directory in all the right places [1].
> 
> The pam_mkhomedir module I cooked up is what I think we will ultimately
> use on debian.org, the home dirs just spring into existance on the first
> login. Saves resources+headaches

Right, but that doesn't help if you need to do something more
complicated (or even just different).  It might be nice to modify the
mkhomedir module to use a config file, and just have that config file
allow you to specify the script to be run to handle things.  The
default could be something like /sbin/pam-mkhomedir which would have
the current behavior.

Of course, maybe it just makes sense for us to take pam-mkhomedir and
modify it for our purposes.  Here we really just need it to make sure
the user's CODA volume is available and ready.

I'm wondering if there's anything I'm going to have to do here that
could be generalized and useful to others, or if it's just going to be
too domain specific to be useful to anyone else.

(Oh, and I guess you didn't have any idea why my script was failing
 with authentication problems?)

Thanks for the help.

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Further work on LDAP passwords (working on an ldap-adduser).

1999-06-14 Thread Rob Browning
OCALNET" ) 
  slapd[24001]: > cache_find_entry_dn2id: found dn: OU=PEOPLE,DC=LOCALNET 
  slapd[24001]: <= dn2id 2 (in cache) 
  slapd[24001]: => id2entry_w( 2 ) 
  slapd[24001]: > cache_find_entry_dn2id: found id: 2 rw: 1 
  slapd[24001]: entry_rdwr_wtrylock: ID: 2 
  slapd[24001]: <= id2entry_w 0x808ca30 (cache) 
  slapd[24001]:  => access_allowed: entry (ou=People, dc=localnet) attr 
(children) 
  slapd[24001]:  => acl_get: entry (ou=People, dc=localnet) attr (children) 
  slapd[24001]: => acl_get: edn OU=PEOPLE,DC=LOCALNET 
  slapd[24001]: => acl_get: [1] check attr children 
  slapd[24001]: => dnpat: [2] .* nsub: 0 
  slapd[24001]: => acl_get:[2]  backend ACL match 
  slapd[24001]: => acl_get: [2] check attr children 
  slapd[24001]: <= acl_get: [2] backend acl ou=People, dc=localnet attr: 
children 
  slapd[24001]:  => acl_access_allowed: write access to entry "ou=People, 
dc=localnet" 
  slapd[24001]:  => acl_access_allowed: write access to value "any" by 
"CN=ADMIN,OU=PEOPLE,DC=LOCALNET" 
  slapd[24001]: <= check a_dnpat: CN=ADMIN, OU=PEOPLE, DC=LOCALNET 
  slapd[24001]: => string_expand: pattern:  CN=ADMIN, OU=PEOPLE, DC=LOCALNET 
  slapd[24001]: => string_expand: expanded: CN=ADMIN, OU=PEOPLE, DC=LOCALNET 
  slapd[24001]: => regex_matches: string:   CN=ADMIN,OU=PEOPLE,DC=LOCALNET 
  slapd[24001]: => regex_matches: rc: 1 no matches 
  slapd[24001]: <= acl_access_allowed: denied by default (no matching by) 
  slapd[24001]:  => access_allowed: exit (ou=People, dc=localnet) attr 
(children) 
  slapd[24001]: no access to parent 
  slapd[24001]: send_ldap_result 50:: 
  slapd[24001]: > cache_return_entry_w 
  slapd[24001]: entry_rdwr_wunlock: ID: 2 
  slapd[24002]: do_unbind 

Thanks

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Re: We need centralized accounts -- Any docs for ldap passwords?

1999-06-09 Thread Rob Browning
Sergey V Kovalyov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> libpam-ldap will allow password change. The rest have to be done
> manually (or through some customized software. I am considering
> Ganymede.)  Although there is a nice package pam-mkhomedir that will
> automatically create homedirs (and copy /etc/skel stuff) if it does
> not exist.

Where can I find that script?

I think we're going to go with ldap, so I'm going to have to figure
out how we want to handle adding/deleting users, etc.  I suppose I'll
just whip up some scripts, but I wouldn't mind having a good one as a
reference.  First I need to look in to ldap and see what the tools are
for editing the database from the command line (if that's possible).

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Re: We need centralized accounts -- Any docs for ldap passwords?

1999-05-31 Thread Rob Browning
Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Documentation is a little lacking in this area. The main reason for
> putting things like fstab, etc, into ldap is for diskless clients
> and large network configurations (think centralizing). If you don't
> see an immediate need for it, chances are you wont benefit from
> it. Currently the most common use of ldap for name services are
> shadow/passwd/group, mail aliases (exim can compile with ldap
> support, as well as sendmail), and hosts information.

OK, so it sounds like we just need shadow/passwd/group support, and as
far as I can tell we should be mostly good to go if we

  1) firewall access to the ldap server from outside our subnet.
  2) import etc/group and passwd via migrate_.pl
  3) edit our nssswitch.conf as directed in /usr/doc/libnss-ldap/README
  4) cross our fingers.

What I don't really know is how doing this interacts with the normal
mechanisms.  I would presume that we can just use LDAP for user
accounts, and leave the system accounts in /etc/passwd, etc.  I'm
guessing from the nsswitch entry it'll just fall back to that if LDAP
fails on a given lookup, but how does LDAP interact with adduser,
userdel, addgroup, /usr/bin/passwd, etc.  Does it update the right
things, or do we have to do manual synchs?

If the latter, then it seems like it might be worth us considering not
using LDAP at all, and just whipping up some ssh synch thingy for
these bits...

> Hope this clears some things up.

It helps a lot.  Thanks.

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Re: We need centralized accounts -- Any docs for ldap passwords?

1999-05-24 Thread Rob Browning
Sergey V Kovalyov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When you install libnss-ldap, there is a short howto in
> /usr/doc/libnss-ldap
> I also suggest downloading conversion tools from www.padl.com, which will
> help populate the LDAP database

OK.  I'm back working on this, and I've gotten openldap
etc. installed, and I've gotten the migration tools, read the HOWTO,
and played with gq to see that I can actually see my database, and I'm
about ready to try and cram my passwd/group stuff in there.  However,
from looking at the migration tools, it seems that they can translate
a lot more than just passwd/group stuff like services, protocols,
aliases, fstab, etc.

So I'm a little curious now.  I'd like to get a brief overview of the
overall picture.  Are people using ldap much for things like fstab?
If so, how would that actually work, and how would it interact with
other package upgrades?  (I can see how accounts work via glibc2 and
libpam-ldap/libnss-ldap.)  Also, I'm wondering what, if any, the
security concerns are relating to ldap access to passwd etc.

Can someone give me a brief overview or point me at an appropriate
doc?  I haven't found one yet.

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Re: mail clients

1999-05-24 Thread Rob Browning
Stephen Pitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> See /usr/doc/exim/filter.txt.gz
> It answered all of my questions.

See also "info exim-filter".

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Re: Emacs and suidunregister

1999-05-15 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I read the man page for suidregister, and it seems to me that when I
> purged Emacs19 and Emacs20 (and all related binaries), not
> everything was cleaned-up.  It also seems to me that this might be a
> bug.
> 
> Can anyone confirm, or suggest what I did wrong?  (I don't think it
> will be any problem to correct.)

This was a bug in the way I was calling suidunregister in the emacs20
postinst.  I *think* it's fixed in the newer packages.  If you have a
reasonably inexpensive net connection, try installing the current
emacs20 and then purging it.  If that doesn't fix the problem, let me
know.

If you pay for downloads by the byte, then let me know and I'll
investigate it here first.

Thanks.

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Re: ssh @ pseudo ttys

1999-05-15 Thread Rob Browning
Ian Keith Setford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just installed a new box but when I try to ssh in I recieve this
> error:
> 
> Warning: Remote host failed or refused to allocate a pseudo tty
> 
> Thisonly happens with sshas I can telnet in and out with no
> problems.  Anybody know where the problems is?  Or how I can turn
> off the pseudo ttys altogether?

My experience was that I had to recompile my kernels with psuedo-tty
support (this meant that I had to have a new enough kernel).  This was
a fairly aggravating problem for one remote install.  It might be nice
if the preinst warned about this, especially if it can check in /proc
to see if ssh is likely to be hosed after the install.

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Re: What to do with a tape drive?

1999-05-15 Thread Rob Browning
Carl Mummert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The easiest way to do incremental backups is to use a prewritten
> package.  I used 'tob' for a while, and it worked fine, although you
> may have to spend an hour or two configuring it the first time.

Also well worth investigating is amanda (www.amanda.org).  It's
probably more complex than most single machine users need, but it's
certainly a solution you're unlikely to outgrow.  I use it both at
home and at work.  However, it does require that you be willing to
accomodate its model...

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Re: mailers

1999-05-14 Thread Rob Browning
Brian Schramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> alias support for addresses
> grouping of addresses
> threading of email (for lists)
> some kind of sorting on reciept of a massage ( for news reports)
> easy to use
> reliable file transfer (for attached documents)
> find a message on a search of the header or body
> 
> Let's here your favorite that can handle most of the above if not all.

I'd recommend Gnus if you like emacs, and mutt if you don't.

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Re: We need centralized accounts -- Any docs for ldap passwords?

1999-05-13 Thread Rob Browning
"Jens B. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> But if you're not ready for potato then NIS will provide a
> ready-made solution. It's pretty straightforward. I'd be glad to
> offer assistance. As for a comparison, well, they're different. NIS
> has been around a long time, LDAP is newer.

Thanks to both of you for the help.  We're running all unstable here
so getting the ldap packages isn't a problem, but I wasn't completely
sure what the tradeoffs are.  I'll go look at the web sites Ben
mentioned.

Actually I had already seen the ldap pacakges, but I wasn't quite sure
where to start.  I was hoping for a HOWTO or something, but I can
always just jump in and figure it out as I poke around.

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We need centralized accounts -- Any docs for ldap passwords?

1999-05-12 Thread Rob Browning

We've got a number of machines here that we need to switch to
centralized account maintenance, and I was trying to figure out what
the best solution would be.  It looks like the two main solutions
would be NIS or ldap (via PAM), but I'm having a hard time finding out
enough about the ldap solution to do a good comparison.  Is there a
good HOWTO or similar somewhere?  Is there some other solution I've
overlooked.  (I thought about just using a cron job and a sync script
to keep all the passwd/group files in sync, but that requires you to
be able to atomically update the files, and I couldn't see a good way
to do that...perhaps some trick with chpasswd/add/deluser...

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Partition hosed. Is there a way to find the superblock?

1998-08-25 Thread Rob Browning

I did something stupid (not rebooting after a re-partition), and so
now after I finally did reboot, I've got a partition with a bunch of
data on it that can't be mounted.  Both mount and e2fsck complain
about not being able to find the superblock.  I can get some of the
data off of it by just running strings on the partition, but I'd
really rather find the superblock and bring it back to life.  The data
there is not critical (it's just my Debian mirror partition), but I'd
rather not have to reconstruct that through my modem link if I don't
have to.

Is there some "magic number" or unique header I can search for that
will tell me where one of the (backup) super blocks is stored?

Thanks

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Re: Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2

1998-06-30 Thread Rob Browning
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   Make bug reporting any more onerous than it is, and peole
>  merely stop filing reports.

I suppose there is something to that.

>   For the most part the maintainer knows the bugs on a package
>  better than anyone else, and the maintainers are fairly well versed
>  in the Bug system; merging bugs is not all that hard.

Yeah, I just got finished merging several duplicate bugs for
emacsen-common.

>   Yes. It is a good idea. It just should not be mandatory.

OK, I'll buy that.  We should just *suggest* it then.

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Re: Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2

1998-06-29 Thread Rob Browning
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What I am requesting is that the submitter of a bug take some time, in
> exchange for the time they expect from the maintainer, and verify that the
> bug has not been reported already. If it has, it is appropriate to send
> the maintainer a confirmation that you also experienced the bug and any
> additional information you can contribute to the solution. This
> confirmation should be CC'd to the original bug report, for continuity
> purposes. But creating an additional report is both confusing and
> administrativly ugly.

This should be mandated (I thought it was).  Not that I've always been
as careful as I should have been, but I've tried to be pretty good.
It's extremely helpful (especially for high-traffic-area/critical
packages like X and libc) that you not end up with floods of redundant
bugs.

> I am not looking to stifle information flow about bugs. I am suggesting
> that if the reporter of the bug will spend some time "doing the filing"
> correctly the task becomes possible and the end user and the maintainer
> both benefit.

Not only that, but the user might discover a workaround in the bug log
that helps them out.  This might be the best way to "sell" the idea :>

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Re: HP DAT drives

1998-05-17 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes:

> Does anyone out there have experience with Hewlett-Packard SCSI DAT
> drives, specifically the 12/24 GB models?  I'm thinking about getting
> a backup system for my computer (which has 12 GB of HDDs), and this
> seems to be the best deal out there.  Do they cooperate nicely with
> other devices (HDDs) on a SCSI bus?  Does `dump' work okay with them?
> How loud is one of them; would it wake up me or my roommate when it
> kicks in for a backup at 3:00 a.m.?

DAT drives make very little noise if you keep the data streaming to
them as fast as they can handle it.  If you don't they may make
clicking noises every now and then.

I'd highly recommend you look into amanda.  I use it here, and as long
as you're willing to spring for more tapes than you probably
originally intended, it does a wonderful job.  I also recommend
turning off the drive's hardware compression and letting amanda handle
it with gzip (unless CPU time is a big deal).

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Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming

1998-05-17 Thread Rob Browning
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> C-? is fine for those environments where it's not DEL, but the proper
> way to implement help has all unbound keys suggest the cannonical help
> key (for example: "press F1 for help").

Ok, but Dale's trying to find control bindings for everything, in
addition to the function keys, I believe for terminals where the
function keys don't work right.

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Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming

1998-05-17 Thread Rob Browning
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I did the best I could at replacing all the "critical" functionality with
> control keys so that ae can function in both a dumb terminal as well as
> the full featured console. Because of the limited choices the alphabet
> provides, I was not able to convert all the keys to control keys, so the
> block, cut, and paste functions, the help key, undo, and case flip are
> still controled by the function keys. I am taking suggestions for control
> key sequences for these functions, and will do what I can to convert all
> of them in the near future.

Well, if you're emulating emacs, I'd thing that mapping 

  block  ->  C-space
  cut->  C-w
  paste  ->  C-y
  undo   ->  C-u   (not really right, I know...)

might make sense.  And what about C-? for help?  All this predicated
on the fact that I know exactly none of the restrictions on the
choices..

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Re: Deity looks AWESOME

1998-03-29 Thread Rob Browning
Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to remain for
> the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X).

It has a text mode as well.

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Re: simple smail questions

1998-03-28 Thread Rob Browning
Otavio Exel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> - I saw a message here stating (not in these words) that "smail is dead;
>   use exim instead"; is it true? I can see that smail is still
>   (according to Debian) the "reccomended MTA for Debian"! note that I'm
>   not spam-asking which one you use! :-)

I have no idea if smail is "dead", but there has been some discussion
about making exim the default mailer.  Personally, I use exim.  I
started with sendmail, switched to qmail, realized that qmail was
likely to stay non-free, and then switched to exim, which has worked
quite well.

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Re: using SUN's monitor in PC ?

1998-03-26 Thread Rob Browning
"Jens B. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> There's also a site which tells you
> how to build a circuit to allow you to drive it here:
> 
> http://cvs.anu.edu.au/monitorconversion/sun.html

Is there similar information available on the feasibility of using an
NCD Xterminal's monitor on a PC or a PC's monitor on an NCD Xterminal?

Thanks

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Re: FTP installing (Hamm)

1998-03-26 Thread Rob Browning
Mike Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The Problem: Once I get into the actual system, it seems to have ignored my
>   network settings (ifconfig and route both return just loopback 
>   settings) and /proc/devices doesn't have an eth device listed. So
>   I try to run pppd-- apparently my old scripts won't work as it doesn't
>   recognize the command "+ua" anymore. 

The last bit I know.

>From /usr/doc/ppp/README.gz

  * Pppd options beginning with - or + have been renamed, e.g. -ip
became noip, +chap became require-chap, etc.  The old options are
still accepted for compatibility but may be removed in future.

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Re: Exim/Fetchmail (Re:Was Unidentified subject!)

1998-03-26 Thread Rob Browning
Mike Acklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   I get an error message from the POP3 server that the name is not
> acceptable. It wants a domain name on it.

Right, I'm pretty sure this is a DNS config problem.  Are you running
bind on this machine, or are you just using /etc/hosts?

>   One of the guys on IRC said this was one of the FAQ's and had me place
> "receiver_unqualified_net = 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0" in my /etc/exim.conf file.

I think this is on the right track.  If you aren't running bind, what
do your /etc/hosts, /etc/nsswitch.conf, and /etc/resolv.conf files
look like?  This problem can probably be fixed by either changes to
one of these files, or by a change to /etc/exim.conf.

>   Is there somewhere I can find a FAQ or Howto for exim or
> fetchmail. I have tried the EXIM home page, but to no avail.

The best source for docs on exim is to install the exim-doc package,
and then run "info exim".  There's also a great mailing list where you
can nearly always get all the help you need.  It should be listed in
the docs.  Also check out /usr/doc/exim/*

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Re: Unidentified subject!

1998-03-26 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Thinking I wanted to see if the sendmail package now has a better install
> script, I have now uninstalled smail, and installed sendmail.  I think I am
> over my heard.

If you're going to move from smail to anything else at the moment, I'd
recommend exim over sendmail unless you're already really comfortable
with sendmail.  There's even been some noise recently about Debian
switching from smail to exim as the default mailer.

With respect to your fetchmail problems, holler again if exim doesn't
fix the problem, and I'll see what I can suggest.

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Re: Linix

1998-03-26 Thread Rob Browning
SKILLS123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi, I am new to this Linix thingy I am interested in Debian,
> because I heard its very good.

Yes.

> I want to know, can I have Win95 and
> Debian on my computer?

Yes.

> And how, do I install and download the file(s)?  Please advise...
> Thanks, Matt

 ftp ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/frozen/main/disks-i386/install.txt

or

 ftp ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/install.txt

I think those pointers are correct.

Alternately you can check out the web pages at www.debian.org.

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Re: smail help required [urgentish]

1998-03-25 Thread Rob Browning
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Will exim support different alias files for different domains?  I've
> got the hideous smail method for doing that installed -- duplicating
> the configuration files in another directory and using dodgy
> transports.  This is an important requirement here.

I believe it will.  You just need multiple directors, each one
handling a different domain.  exim will take the answer from whichever
director has one.  From the info pages:

   * If an address is local, it is passed to each configured director
 in turn until one is able to handle it. If none can, the address
 is failed. Directors can be targeted at particular local domains,
 so several local domains can be processed entirely independently
 of each other.

Is that what you meant?

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Re: mail and mailer questions

1998-03-24 Thread Rob Browning
Stephen Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am interested in looking into a new mail setup and I am looking
> for some information and recomendations

My highest recommendation is Gnus.  It's a fantastic mail program that
runs inside emacs, and handles news, so most of what you learn for
mail is applicable for news or for more general emacs editing
purposes.  It probably has more features than you could (would want
to) ever use.

Gnus easily handles threading your mail and news, and splitting your
incoming mail into different groups (mailboxes) based on whatever
criteria you like.  You'd use fetchmail to download your mail to your
machine and then Gnus to deal with it, and I'd recommend using the
Gnus nnmail backend which stores each message as a separate file, and
is faster than the other backends.

There are of course other good mail programs.  I used to use mh (and
exmh) before I switched to Gnus.

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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-02-19 Thread Rob Browning
Jan Vroonhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is fakeroot building the norm in hamm?

It is for me.  Except that when you're working on a normal package, I
tend to do:

  $ fakeroot debian/rules binary

during development, and then

  $ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot

when I'm finishing up.

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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-02-19 Thread Rob Browning
Jan Vroonhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> iii) Doing it this way forces you to be root to do a kernel compile.
> 
> I know this probably more of a problem with the packaging system
> itself. However it would be very nice if this could be changed. There
> should be no need to be root to compile a kernel, only when installing 
> it.

That's what the fakeroot package is for.

  $ fakeroot make-kpkg --revision foo.1.0 kernel_image

will do what you want.  No root required.

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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-02-17 Thread Rob Browning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Not to mention that I personally run devel kernels for various
> reasons.

Huh?  I'm running make-kpkg compiled versions of the 2.1.79 and 2.1.87
built from the source I downloaded from ftp.kernel.org the other day.
What's your point?

And when I discovered the chown problem with the 2.1.8(early) kernels,
it took me one command:

  $ sudo dpkg -i /usr/local/src/kernel-images/ kernel-image-2.1.79_1.0_i386.deb

and a reboot to fix it.

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Any command to spin down a *scsi* drive?

1998-02-09 Thread Rob Browning

I know you can use hdparm to set the spin-down period on an IDE drive,
but is there a similar command for SCSI drives?

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Re: HP SureStore DAT24x6e

1997-11-21 Thread Rob Browning
Glenn Amerine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anyone have this automated DAT changer on their network? And if
> so, any troubles backing up Debian boxes with it? From what I can tell
> from HP's literature, backup software for NetWare and NT are included,
> and then it lists a bunch of Unix systems that are supported via "mtx
> autoloader utility". I'm assuming NFS mounts?

Check out amanda, it handles full network backups from clusters of
machines to tape changers, and probably uses mtx (which is a version
of mt that understands multiple tapes).

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Re: thread support?

1997-11-21 Thread Rob Browning
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> I haven't found any of the Xlib stuff thread safe either.  I'm doing
> some development using Xlib and did some basic testing under threads
> and found it would hang X-windows or even crash X-windows when
> trying to do threaded X-window calls.  I have found though that you
> can do threaded development using the current non-thread safe X
> libraries by carefully organizing your code.  I've relagated ONE
> thread to do ALL of my X calls, and the other threads to do my other
> number crunching.  I've had no problems with this and everything
> seems to work find.  It is a bit difficult though to design the code
> just right.

You might want to look at
/usr/doc/libc6/README.Xfree3.2.linuxthreads.gz after installing libc6.

I don't know if the default Debian X packages have this built in yet
or not...

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Re: Debian on Dell Latitude Laptop

1997-11-21 Thread Rob Browning
"Eloy A. Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> : Has anyone successfully installed Debian 1.3.1 on a Dell Latitude XPi
> : laptop?  If so, what it the secret?  When I try booting from the
> : install/rescue disk, it gets about halfway through "Loading linux..."
> : and then reboots.
> 
> OK, I tried today a stock 1.3.1 rescue disk on a Latitude XPi CD
> and it hung while loading the md driver. I'll try compiling
> a custom kernel with just the stuff I have.
> 
> Somebody else that contacted me in private mail had the same problem.
> However, none of us had the problem of the computer rebooting while
> loading the kernel.

Sorry this is so late, but I haven't had time for debian-user much
recently.  Note that this problem is usually caused (on laptops) by a
bzImage.  If the kernel is recompiled as a zImage, you should be
fine.  I sucessfully used the tecra boot disk (look in the standard
Debian disks directory) on one machine (not a tecra) with this problem.

Ignore this if it's no longer relevant...

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Re: serial port speed

1997-09-23 Thread Rob Browning
Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Anyone knows the default serail port speed?  It is 38,400bps?  Which
> file responsible for this setting?  I want to increase it to 115,200bps.

Most versions of unix only support specifying the modem speed up to
38400 (for historical reasons).  So to specify a higher speed, you
have to tell the OS to use a higher speed when something like pppd
asks for 38400.  This is accomplished with setserial, see the man page
for details, but you're looking for the spd_hi and spd_vhi options.

I put these commands in an /etc/rc.boot/0setserial-local file so that
they happen every time I boot.

# !/bin/sh
# File: /etc/rc.boot/0setserial-local

STD_FLAGS="spd_vhi"

SETSERIAL=/bin/setserial

echo -n "Local serial port config"

${SETSERIAL} -b /dev/ttyS0 ${STD_FLAGS}
${SETSERIAL} -b /dev/ttyS1 ${STD_FLAGS}

echo "done."

${SETSERIAL} -bg /dev/ttyS{0,1}

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Re: Transfering system directories to new HD

1997-09-14 Thread Rob Browning
"C.L. Daugaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've seen (and kept) posts on how to transfer a system to a new HD. 
> what I'm stumped on is how this is done when /, /usr, and /home are on
> *separate partitions* and I want to keep it that way.  Can anyone tell
> me how this is done?  At this state the "find . -mount -depth
> -print|cpio -pdmv /newtempmount" method sounds like the most promising,
> but how this is done per partition is a mystery.
> 
> My thanks to anyone who can help.

As root make a dummy directory in /, and mount all your new partitions
under /dummy, so you have

/dev/hdb1  23423   1104811166 50%   /dummy
/dev/hdb2 956015  749859   156765 83%   /dummy/usr
/dev/hdb3 956015  749859   156765 83%   /dummy/home

then do (as root)

  cd /
  cp -a `ls | grep -v proc` dummy

You'll still have to make the proc directory on your new root
partition by hand, but the rest should be exactly the way you want.

Then you just need to modify /dummy/etc/lilo.conf and /dummy/etc/fstab
to reflect the new partition layout, use cfdisk to set the bootable
flag as appropriate, and run "lilo -r /dummy".

I think that's it, but this is off the top of my head, so be careful.
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Re: Transfering system directories to new HD

1997-09-14 Thread Rob Browning
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   cp -a `ls | grep -v proc` dummy

Oops, this needs to be

  cp -a `ls | fgrep -v proc | fgrep -v 'lost+found'` dummy

or something similar.
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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

1997-09-10 Thread Rob Browning
Terrence Brannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> We would like a SCSI 4GB hard disk to connect to our PC running Debian
> Linux 1.3. We may occassionally want to connect it to our Alpha's running
> Redhat Alpha 4.0. 
> 
> We want reliability first. Then cost second.

I've had really good luck with the latest Seaagte Barracudas.  They're
very fast, but quite expensive.  I've also heard that their cheaper
drives might be troublesome.

IBM also apparently has some really good drives now.

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Re: XFree86 and Threads...

1997-09-09 Thread Rob Browning
Dale Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was just curious - since libc6 is thread safe, and GUIs seem to be
> something that can be "naturally" multithreaded, is XFree86
> multithreaded under Linux? (or any other system, for that matter?)
> 
> I'm about to get a second PPro for my box at home, and I already have
> SMP at work, so the prospect of a multithreaded X is quite interesting
> to me.

Now that xlib6g and xlib6g-dev have been released (thanks Mark), the
answer should be yes, but I haven't tried it yet.  Note that you need
to be running unstable, and you have to complile all your code with
-D_REENTRANT.  There's information about X and threads in the book
"Programmers Supplement for Release 6", another one of those "X"
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Re: Prompt in Bash [fixed]

1997-09-07 Thread Rob Browning
Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Yup,  kill the "eval" and life is good.  Thanks,  Mr. Browning.

You're welcome, but sheesh, call me Rob :>

One final word for those who were following this thread.

This

  if [ ${PS1:-UNSET} = UNSET ]

should have been

  if [ "${PS1:-UNSET}" = UNSET ]

Without the quotes, you can get problems when you have a prompt with
escape characters.

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Re: Prompt in Bash

1997-09-06 Thread Rob Browning
"Gonzalo A. Diethelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Rob, thanks a lot for your script. I think there is a small glitch,
> though:

Not surprised :>

>  > export PS1='\n\!\$ '
>  > export PROMPT_COMMAND='eval set_titlebar [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]:`my_dirname`'
> 
> When I did this, the title bar showed the full path, without replacing
> $HOME with a '~' character. I got rid of the "eval", and things were
> fine.

Hmm.  I have no idea now why that eval's there.  I must have thought I
needed it at some point (or I copied a pasted something I shouldn't
have), but things seem to work fine without it.

The eval might also explain why others were getting the "command not
found errors", but if so, I don't understand why I wasn't getting them
here too.

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Re: Prompt in Bash

1997-09-06 Thread Rob Browning
Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ok,  now I get a 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~: command not found
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ is what should end up in the titlebar,  but it's instead
> somehow being evaluated.  Any other clues?

Email me a snippet that causes the problem, and I'll check it out.  If
a small snippet won't cause it, send me your .bashrc, and the output
of 'ls -l .bash*'.

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Re: Prompt in Bash

1997-09-06 Thread Rob Browning
Michael Harnois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Since you're providing enlightenment ...

Don't know if I'd go that far :>

> This string works find in a "straight" .bashrc. However, when I use it 
> in your file, it works fine on a login shell. When I start a subshell, 
> though, I get

I'd have to see the file to be sure, but my guess is that it's not the
prompt string, but rather a problem with test (i.e. the "[" command).
Email me your .bashrc, and send me the result of "ls -l .bash*".

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Re: IP Masquerading

1997-09-06 Thread Rob Browning
Mike Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Now I'm working on IP Masquerading (finally!) and in the HOWTO, there is a 
> command called "ipfwadm". I can't figure out what package it is under (and 
> it curently doesn't exist on my system)

Oh, and you may want netstd, too.

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Re: IP Masquerading

1997-09-06 Thread Rob Browning
Mike Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Now I'm working on IP Masquerading (finally!) and in the HOWTO, there is a 
> command called "ipfwadm". I can't figure out what package it is under (and 
> it curently doesn't exist on my system)

It's in the netbase package.

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Re: Prompt in Bash

1997-09-05 Thread Rob Browning
Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If I do this:
> 
> On 5 Sep 1997, Rob Browning wrote:
> 
> > set_titlebar () { echo -n "]2;$*"; }
> > export -f set_titlebar
> 
>   And then someplace call "set_titlebar",  I just get ^[]2;$*^G
> echoed to my terminal.  It doesn't ever set the titlebar.  I'm using rxvt.
> Suggestions?

Uhm, oops, my fault.  There were 8-bit characters in that script that
I didn't mention.  I don't know what you saw, but what you should have
seen was:

set_titlebar () { echo -n "^[]2;$*^G"; }

Here ^[ and ^G actually have to be real control characters not a ^
followed by a G or [.  To type these into a file in emacs, you can use
C-q C-g for ^G and C-q C-[ for ^[.  If this doesn't make sense to you,
ask and I'll explain in more detail.  You can get the same effect from
a bash prompt with C-q Cv:

  quoted-insert (C-q, C-v)
  Add  the  next  character that you type to the line
  verbatim.  This is how to  insert  characters  like
  C-q, for example. 

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Re: Prompt in Bash

1997-09-05 Thread Rob Browning
Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is it possible to do it in tcsh?

Good question.  I've never used tcsh, but I would guess so.  The key
thing to note is this escape sequence which changes the titlebar:

echo -n "]2;$*"

or with a fixed string for illustration:

echo -n "]2;My new titlebar goes here"

The rest of the stuff is just figuring out what string to put in the
titlebar (via $*), and how to hook the prompt change into the right
place so that it happens at every prompt.

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Re: Prompt in Bash

1997-09-05 Thread Rob Browning
"Jens B. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, you should have RTFMpage, but here's the excerpt you want:

That seems a little over-harsh.

>a command.  Bash allows these prompt strings  to  be  cusĀ­
>tomized by inserting a number of backslash-escaped special
>characters that are decoded as follows:

[...]

This list of bash escapes doesn't tell them the sequence of characters
that has to be sent to an *xterm* to set the title-bar, which is what
they really need to know.  I had to dig around for a while before I
figured that out.  Maybe the rxvt man page has been improved...

They also have to figure out the BASH_PROMPT variable if they want the
"~" cleanup, and several other little tidbits that take quite a while
to pull together.  I certainly don't begurdge saving someone else the
time to figure all that out.  Others have certainly done the same for
me innumerable times.
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Re: Prompt in Bash

1997-09-05 Thread Rob Browning

Ask and ye shall receive :> This is a cut-down version of my bashrc.
It also shows a trick to get around the problem with some shells
actually being login shells, but not calling .bash_login (i.e. X login
shells).  I just symlink my .bash_login to my .bashrc, and let .bashrc
handle figuring out what kind of shell it is (see BASH_INITIALIZED
below).

if [ ${PS1:-UNSET} = UNSET ]
then
INTERACTIVE_SHELL=F
else
INTERACTIVE_SHELL=T

  if [ "$TERM" = xterm -o "$TERM" = rxvt ]
  then
set_titlebar () { echo -n "]2;$*"; }
export -f set_titlebar

my_dirname () { 
  if [ "${PWD#$HOME}" != "$PWD" ]
  then
  echo '~'${PWD#$HOME}
  else
  echo $PWD
  fi
}
export -f my_dirname

export PS1='\n\!\$ '
  export PROMPT_COMMAND='eval set_titlebar [EMAIL 
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  else
export PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\n\!\$ '
  fi 
fi

if [ "${BASH_INITIALIZED}" != "Yes" ]
then
export BASH_INITIALIZED=Yes

  # Do other stuff here that should only happen once, and be
  # inherited by sub-shells.

fi

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Re: Undefined reference to '...'

1997-09-03 Thread Rob Browning
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I hope egcs fixes alot of problems like this :<

I believe it does, and again, you can solve all these problems with
the existing gcc and the repo patch.  One thing I didn't mention
before was that you do need to compile your code with -frepo.

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Re: SCSI Host Adapter

1997-09-03 Thread Rob Browning
Steve Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm hoping that someone with some SCSI experience can give me some
> advice here.

My general impression is that the three best manufacturers to consider
are Buslogic, Adaptec, and for really serious SCSI, DPT.  I've always
used Adaptec, but that's just because that's what came with the
machines I've used.  I've heard that the Buslogic cards are as good or
better, and they probably deserve Linux patronage more than Adaptec as
they've supposedly been much more open to requests for information
from Linux driver developers.  I've also heard that the Adaptec's are
much more sensitive to cable lengths and qualities.  I have had some
cabling issues, but I couldn't say if it was the adapter's fault.

Buslogic's not carried by too many stores, but it shouldn't be hard to
find online.  Check www.cdw.com, www.megahaus.com, dirt cheap drives,
or the drive outlet center (just off the top of my head).  I'm not
particularly advocating any of these, but they're places to start.

> I finally bought a PC because of Linux, the Mac Unix options weren't
> coming along fast enough for me.

Same here.

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Re: Undefined reference to '...'

1997-09-02 Thread Rob Browning

I found the pointer to the template repository patch for gcc 2.7.*.
It's ftp.cygnus.com/pub/g++/gcc-2.7.*-repo.gz.

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Re: .Xdefaults vs. .Xresources

1997-09-02 Thread Rob Browning
Christopher Ray Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am a little confused as to the difference between these two files. It
> seems that they are basically the same, or at least they contain the same
> type of information. 
> 
> Which is preferrable to use? Can I use one, and then "source" it from the
> other file (for programs which may use the other one)?

Well, it may not be strictly correct, but my .Xdefaults is a symlink
to .Xresources.  Works for me.

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Re: Undefined reference to '...'

1997-09-02 Thread Rob Browning
Gilbert Laycock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I believe that this (and many other) problems have been fixed for
> gcc/g++ 2.8 which is apparently nearly-but-not-quite-ready for release
> (and has been for some time now).

You can also solve this problem in 2.7.2* by using the repo patch
(available at cygnus' ftp site (don't have a pointer handy)).  We've
been using it here for quite some time.  The only problem I've noticed
is that in some cases, it can make g++ consume an inordinate amount of
memory.  This patch has the added advantage of making sure that the
object code for a given template instance is only instantiated once,
rather than in each object file where it's mentioned.

I've heard that 2.8 solves this problem in a much better manner.
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Re: Monitor power saving (seems to be a FAQ).

1997-09-02 Thread Rob Browning
Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 1 Sep 1997, Rob Browning wrote:
> 
> Where do you do this? Bash_profile?

> >   #!/bin/sh
> >   # File: /etc/rc.boot/0vc-powersave
> >   # Turn on power-saving on the VC's

Note:

  # File: /etc/rc.boot/0vc-powersave

So it's in /etc/rc.boot/0vc-powersave, hence it happens every time the
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] sig 14?

1997-09-02 Thread Rob Browning
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> where can I find a list of which signal numbers correspond to which
> error?  

/usr/include/asm/signal.h 

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Monitor power saving (seems to be a FAQ).

1997-09-02 Thread Rob Browning

There are really 2 issues: getting X to do power saving, and getting
the text console to do power saving.

This is how I set all my consoles to all have powersaving enabled:

  #!/bin/sh
  # File: /etc/rc.boot/0vc-powersave
  # Turn on power-saving on the VC's

  test -f /usr/bin/setterm || exit 0

  echo -n "Turning power-saving on for VC's:"
  for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6
  do
setterm -powersave < /dev/tty$i
setterm -blank 15 < /dev/tty$i
echo -n " $i"
  done
  echo "."
  exit 0

And this is how I get X to have powersaving enabled:

from /etc/X11/XF86Config

  Section "Device"
 ...
 Option "power_saver"
 ...
  EndSection 

>From the end of my /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0

  xset dpms 600 900 

The command used to be "xset s power...", so if you have an older
version of xset than I do then you might need the following instead:

  # Turn on the builtin screensaver
  xset s 480
  # and set the monitor shutdown time
  xset s power 900 900

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Re: "mirror" regets whole Debian archive

1997-09-01 Thread Rob Browning

You could have avoided the transfer with a "mirror -T".  Whenever I
see it going haywire (usually because I did something stupid to my
clock), I stop it and try that first.

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Re: Which PGP should I get?

1997-08-30 Thread Rob Browning
"Gonzalo A. Diethelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Should I get pgp-us or pgp-i? I'm living in Chile, if that makes any
> difference.
> 
> >From the looks of it, I'd say pgp-i, but just want to make sure...

pgp-i is better for those outside the US.  It'd be better for those
inside the US too if it wasn't for the RSA patent infringement
issues...

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Re: XDM

1997-08-30 Thread Rob Browning
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers:
> 
> :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -bpp 16

Alternately you can put a 

   DefaultColorDepth 16

entry in the appropriate Screen section in your /etc/X11/XF86Config.

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Re: Linux in Wired

1997-08-30 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted Harding) writes:

> However, I'd be most interested to hear of experience with Applixware
> (and what about StarOffice?).

I used StarOffice here to convert a Word6 document to html so that I
could print it.  It did a pretty good job, but it was a small
document.

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Re: Linux in Wired

1997-08-30 Thread Rob Browning
Jan Vroonhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Another example is the ease with which you can make flow text around
> a picture with a complicated contour in say PageMaker compared to
> how difficult that is in TeX.

Of course true lumberjacks would just write raw postscript :>

I've succesfully used a Mac version of FreeHand (don't recall which
version) running under Executor/Linux (www.ardi.com) for this sort of
thing.

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Re: Linux in Wired

1997-08-30 Thread Rob Browning
"Marc W. Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would think that XFig, gnuplot and LaTeX could produce all the
> "flashiness" that one would need.

Also, for those not familiar with it, jgraph can produce some really
nice, clean postscript graphs from a fairly straightforward
input specification.

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Re: upgrade path

1997-08-28 Thread Rob Browning
"Daniel J. Mashao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> problems. 1.2 worked fine, but I upgraded to 1.3.1 and now my monitor does
> not do 800x600.

Did you try

  su
  mv /etc/X11/XF86Config /etc/X11/XF86Config.old

  # Just want to make sure there aren't any old ones lying around to
  # confuse XF86Setup.
  mv /root/XF86Config /root/XF86Config.old
 
  XF86Setup

I had the new version of X break several X installations here, but
using this approach fixed all of them but one.  Timing parameters (and
other things) had changed, and this fixed them by getting the setup
program to start from scratch.  The one that this didn't fix I was
able to straighten out by hand (it was a laptop that was a pain the
first time I set it up too).

I even found on several of the machines, I could use options that
weren't available before.  For example, the laptop was able to do
16bit with a linear frame buffer.

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Re: [DEBIAN] AARGH PCMCIA network adaptor still not recognised

1997-08-21 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nico De Ranter) writes:

> file so the user can choose between Win95/DOS/Linux (if there is a
> version of lilo that let's the user choose from a menu (no not by
> pressing tab or whatever first) please let me know, in the mean time
> I just don't regard lilo as "user-friendly").  Even if I boot from a
> floppy nothing is recognised :-(

I believe the latest (not yet a Debian package) version of lilo (2.0)
will do this.  You can also look at chos, but it's non-free...

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Re: A very simple question

1997-08-21 Thread Rob Browning
"Civ Kevin F. Havener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'll take a crack at this one since I've asked and received an answer to 
> the very same question.
> 
> I use a two-line prompt that tells me who I'm logged on as and at what 
> machine on the first line and what is the full path to the current directory.
> Put this in your ~/.bash_profile or in /etc/profile (for system-wide 
> default):  PS1='<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\n<`pwd`>\$ '

Here's another option (from my .bashrc) that works with rxvt's (and
xterms?).  It dynamically sets the title bar to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pwd so
you don't have to have it all on the prompt.  If you're not using an
xterm/rxvt, it sets the prompt instead.  It also does /home/username
-> ~ translation when appropriate.

if [ ${PS1:-UNSET} = UNSET ]
then
INTERACTIVE_SHELL=F
else
INTERACTIVE_SHELL=T

  if [ "$TERM" = x"term" ]
  then
set_titlebar () { echo -n "]2;$*"; }
export -f set_titlebar

my_dirname () { 
  if [ "${PWD#$HOME}" != "$PWD" ]
  then
  echo '~'${PWD#$HOME}
  else
  echo $PWD
  fi
}
export -f my_dirname

export PS1='\n\!\$ '
  export PROMPT_COMMAND='eval set_titlebar [EMAIL 
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  else
export PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\n\!\$ '
  fi 
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Re: Laptop for Linux Debian

1997-08-14 Thread Rob Browning
David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If one were to buy a laptop these days what would be a good brand that is 
> widely supported by Linux (Debian)?

We have had good luck here with Dells and Compaqs.  They both took
some tinkering (especially with the X setups), and we had to buy
AcceleratedX for one of the Dells.

Best place for you to poke around would be the Linux on Laptops home
page.  Unfortunately I don't have the pointer handy, but Altavista
should be able to find it for you pretty quick.

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Re: Problem with exim and fetchmail.

1997-08-14 Thread Rob Browning
Victor Torrico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In the interim, using fetchmail and exim, I still can only get my
> incoming mail to go into the /var/spool/exim/input directory.  How do I
> get the mail in this directory out to use it in exmh?  What steps must I
> follow?  I'm brain frazzled as of the moment.

Hmm, I have no idea why it's putting your mail there.  AFAIK it
shouldn't be.  All your mail should be going into
/var/spool/mail/username.

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Re: Sendmail dsc file?

1997-08-13 Thread Rob Browning
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hmm ... I tried a 'dpkg-source -x sendmail*dsc' and got this message:
> "dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./sendmail_8.8.7.orig.tar.gz' contains
> object (sendmail-8.8.7/FAQ) not in expected directory 
> (sendmail-8.8.7.orig)"
> 
> What's that about?

I think you probably need a newer version of dpkg(-dev).

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Re: Sendmail dsc file?

1997-08-13 Thread Rob Browning
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I want to compile the ismx patch into sendmail ... there is no
> sendmail.dsc file at ftp.debian.org.  I know I can just untar the
> source, but I was going to try to do it "the Debian Way" ... what am I
> missing?

ftp.debian.org:/debian/dists/unstable/main/source/mail> ls sendm*
sendmail_8.8.7-1.diff.gz
sendmail_8.8.7-1.dsc
sendmail_8.8.7.orig.tar.gz

Is that what you're looking for?

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Re: restarting daemons

1997-08-13 Thread Rob Browning
George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> killall -HUP inetd

While this will work, killall is a little evil, because it can
sometimes accidentially kill some other things you weren't expecting.
A more precise way to do this would be:

  kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`

Either one will get the jon done, though...
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Re: Swap additions

1997-08-13 Thread Rob Browning
David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Could some of you guys show me a step by step procedure on how to setup 
> an additional 128MB swap file?  Or alternatively where I can find this info.

Check out "man mkswap".

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Re: Problem with exim and fetchmail.

1997-08-12 Thread Rob Browning

Thanks for the reply.  It turns out that the problem lies with
fetchmail.  It's been fixed in an upcoming release.  You won't need
any hacks in your exim.conf file anymore, nor will you need
fetchmail's -mda option.

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Proper solution to exim and fetchmail problem.

1997-08-11 Thread Rob Browning

After some further cogitation, I spoke to the fetchmail author, and it
turns out that it was a problem with fetchmail.  He's fixed it in the
next version, soon to be released.  Once that's done fetchmail users
on sytems running exim shouldn't need the -mda option to fetchmail or
any special workarounds in their exim config.

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Re: Problem with exim and fetchmail (solved).

1997-08-11 Thread Rob Browning

Actually it turns out that using

  receiver_unqualified_hosts=myhost.mydomain

fixes the problem nicely.  Assuming no one else sees a problem with
this solution, I'm going to suggest it to the fetchmail FAQ
maintainers to replace the current -mda "exim -bm %" solution.

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Re: Problem with exim and fetchmail.

1997-08-11 Thread Rob Browning
Victor Torrico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> mda "exim -bm %s"

Thanks for the help, but I had discovered (see one of my previous
messages) that I could get it to work with this option.  However, I
wanted to know why it was necessary.  So far everyone who has a
working setup is using it, but according to the fetchmail FAQ, this
approach is a bad idea:

>From the fetchmail FAQ:

  using an MDA for delivery is discouraged. If you throw those options
  away, fetchmail will now forward your mail into your system's normal
  Internet-mail delivery path.

  Actually, using an MDA is now almost always the wrong thing; the MDA
  facility has been retained only for people who can't or won't run a
  sendmail-like SMTP listener on port 25. The default, SMTP forwarding
  to port 25, is better for at least two major reasons. One: it feeds
  retrieved POP and IMAP mail into your system's normal delivery path
  along with local mail and normal Internet mail, so all your normal
  filtering/aliasing/forwarding setup for local mail works. Two:
  because the port 25 listener returns a positive acknowledge,
  fetchmail can be sure you're not going to lose mail to a disk-full
  or some other resource-exhaustion problem.

Using the SMTP delivery (no mda option) works fine with sendmail, so
just wanted to make it work with exim.

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Re: Incorrect /usr/include/linux and /usr/src/linux sym-links

1997-08-11 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harmon Sequoya Nine) writes:

> Hello.  A few problems I've encountered on installing the kernel
> source and headers.

> 1) If the source is installed first, then the headers, the
> /usr/src/linux symlink pointer to the headers directory instead of
> the source directory.

> 2) Also, if the kernel headers or source is installed, then the
> /usr/include/linux directory should be a symlink to
> /usr/src/linux/include/linux.

Neither of these is a bug.  Read /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz.  Linking the
asm and linux include directories into the src tree is no longer
acceptable practice. 

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Re: Problem with exim and fetchmail.

1997-08-11 Thread Rob Browning
Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I believe that exim wants a fully qualified address. Try putting this in
> /etc/exim.conf:
>   qualify_domain = localhost
>   qualify_recipient = localhost

I tried this, and it didn't help.

>  mda "exim -bm %s "

This fixes the problem, but according to the FAQ this is just masking
some other problem with the SMTP listener.  Any idea how to fix the
listener?

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Re: .deb file corruption?

1997-08-10 Thread Rob Browning
Dave Neuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When I download debian package files onto my PowerMac and try to
> transfer them via PC-formatted floppy to my Linux box, the files are
> showing up under linux all starting with "!" (i.e.
> "kernel-package_3.28.deb" becomes "!kernal-package_3.28") and I
> can't seem to cp them (the cp command gives me a "can't find action
> '!").

I'm not sure why you are getting the !.  Usually things like that
happen because someone's trying to represent characters that were used
in the filename on the Mac to something that DOS is happier with.
However, the reason they are causing trouble is because the shell
you're using (bash) interprets the ! as a special character (see "man
bash" for more details).  Bash things you are telling it to find some
previous command in the command history and execute it.  For example
if I typed "!54" to bash, it would execute the 54th command in the
history buffer.

Seeing ! in a file name really confuses bash, so you have to "escape"
the character to tell bash, "no I really do mean that the file name
has an exclamation point".  To do this, use a backslash.  Since !'s in
filenames are evil, you should get rid of them, so do this:

  mv \!kernel-package_3.28.deb kernel-package_3.28.deb

This will change the name, removing the !.  If you want to fix a whole
directory of files at once, do this (after "cd" ing to the directory):

  for file in *
  do
mv $file `echo $file | perl -pe 's/^!//o'`
  done

(That's off the top of my head, so I'd be careful, but maybe you'll
get the idea...)

> What's going on?  This seems to happen whether I download the files as
> binary or text files.

Someone's renaming them for you.  What programs are you using for the
download?  Note that with suntar, you probably wouldn't have this
problem...

> BTW, I can't get the Linux box connected via Ethernet (no drivers)
> or modem (can't seem to find modem, and can't transfer any
> communications programs like minicom to the Linux box to test for
> the modem).

Why not transfer minicom via floppy?  (or is that a problem because
of the "!"  problem I was just discussing?)

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Re: hello - probs

1997-08-10 Thread Rob Browning
Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is hello_1-13.deb still current?  I am trying to learn the gentle art of
> package making, but this is what happens with dpkg-source.
> 
> elm# dpkg-source -x /cdrom/stable/source/misc/hello_1.3-13.dsc

You need to be in the same directory where you are doing the
unpacking, so you need to do something like the following:

  cd ~
  cp /cdrom/stable/source/misc/hello_1.3-13.* .
  dpkg -x hello_1.13-13.dsc

> elm# dpkg --build hello-1.3

You probably don't want to be calling dpkg --build directly.  Try
something like this:

  cd hello-1.3
  su
  dpkg-buildpackage

or

  cd hello-1.3
  su
  debian/rules build

The latter is if you just want to build the .deb package and not the
source and diff packages and the changes file.

(You could (and probably eventually should) replace the "su" step with
the -rsudo (or something similar) option to dpkg-buildpackage, but I
didn't want to make things any more complicated than this to start).

> In fact hello contains " debian/" rather than "DEBIAN/".  

debian/ is correct.  The DEBIAN directory is just a temporary
directory created during the package build steps which are put in
motion with dpkg-buildpackage.

You should install the dpkg-dev package (if you haven't already) and
look at /usr/doc/dpkg/packaging.html/index.html and
/usr/doc/dpkg/internals.html/index.html.

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Re: Driver installation problems

1997-08-09 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> The modem in the PC is an ISA card modem.  Will this map to one of
> the /dev/ ttyS's?  Rember, I'm primarily a Mac person, so I don't
> know an IRQ from my left knee, and to me an I/O address is a place
> one one of the moons of Jupiter that the postman delivers mail to.

Welcome.  I was a Mac user for many years.  Switched to Debian, and
never looked back (although IRQ's are spawn of satan).  The hardware
can be a pain at times, but the quality of the OS, the support, the
performance, the features, and not least of all the philosophy far
more than make up for any hardware problems.  Note that you generally
solve the hardware problems once, and then forget about them.

> If Linux can find my modem.

Should be able to, unless it's one of those evil WinModems (leaves out
some of the chips to save money, and "lets" your CPU handle the job
the missing hardware should have been doing).  Linux doesn't handle
those, but if it's a good old fashioned modem, you should be fine.

Prepare for an intro to IRQs and IO ports.  I tell you all this
because I'm in the mood, and because you *may* need to know it if you
have trouble getting the modem to work.

IRQ's and I/O ports are system resources, and for the most part you
can think of them as a way for hardware to communicate with the rest
of the system.  For example, a serial port generally needs a hardware
address (I/O port) to send data to other devices, and an IRQ
(Interrupt ReQuest line) to notify the CPU (or whoever) that it needs
attention.

A PC has only 15 IRQ's, and these have to be assigned across all the
devices that need them.  Generally devices cannot share IRQ's, and
some devices require more than one.  Also some IRQ's are already
reserved by the motherboard.  It would be nice if the system would
just automatically arbitrate who gets which resources without you ever
having to muck around with things, but in the PC world, it's not that
simple.  The PC is an old crufty architecture, so sometimes you have
to help it along.  Plug and Pray is an attempt to "fix" some of this,
but in many cases it's caused as many problems as it's solved.

What it boils down to is that for some devices you have to tell them
which IRQ they should use, then you have to tell the system about your
decision too.  Telling the device may mean moving a jumper on the
device or flipping a DIP switch, or it may mean going to the machine's
BIOS setup screen and selecting some values.  Telling the system (at
least under linux, if it's necessary (linux can often auto-detect this
stuff), usually means running a config program at boot).

Most serial ports require one dedicated IRQ, and you tell the serial
port what IRQ to use (or put it on automatic) with the BIOS config
program.  On my computer you get there by pressing F1 during bootup.
A PC normally has 2 serial ports, and Debian does a pretty good job of
configuring them without any intervention, so you may be able to leave
this alone.

Unfortunately, the ISA modem card will have it's own on-board serial
port, so you have to be a little careful.  Basically, you want to make
sure (if you can) that it ends up on a different IRQ and port than any
other device (including the built in serial ports).  You may be able
to just set some jumpers on the card to put it where you want it, or
you may need to disable one of the other built in serial ports using
the BIOS config program so that the ISA modem can use the disabled
serial port's now free resources.

You can figure out how the serial ports are already configured on your
machine (assuming that you have linux up), by running "setserial -bg
/dev/ttyS*" as root (see "man setserial" for more info).  This will
list all the currently configured serial ports and what resources they
are using.  Here's a sample:

# setserial -bg /dev/ttyS*
/dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A (spd_vhi)
/dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A (spd_vhi)

Note one port is using IRQ 4 and one is using IRQ 3.  The 0x
numbers are the I/O ports they are using.  I didn't configure this
myself; Debian did it at startup automatically.  The script that
handles this auto-configuration is /etc/rc.boot/0setserial.  If I had
your modem installed setserial -bg's output might look like this:

/dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A (spd_vhi)
/dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A (spd_vhi)
/dev/ttyS2 at 0x0??? (irq = 4) is a 16550A (spd_vhi)

Note that the ??? would be filled in with some address, but I don't
know what it would be.  Note also that I depicted two serial ports
"sharing" the same IRQ.  Things could be set up that way, but you'd
have to be sure to never, ever use both ports.  The sytem would get
confused about "who was saying what".

What you'd really like is something like this:

/dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A (spd_vhi)
/dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A (spd_vhi)
/dev/ttyS2 at 0x0??? (irq = 5) is a 16550A (spd_vhi)

where ??? is different from the other 

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