Strange KDE2 Language Problem after recent update, help pls.

[Todd Suess]

Greetings,

I have been running KDE2 and Woody for some time now with no problems, however
after a recent update, several things happened.  First of all, my console 
keymap got changed
to a non us one, so I could not login.  Once I figured out what was 
happening, I determined how
my keyboard was mapped, so I could login as root and use kbdconfig to fix 
the problem.  Then
I ran X-windows.  KDE2 comes up fine, but all the dialogs, etc are in 
gibberish, I guess it could
be a language like chinese, etc, but whatever it is, I can't read it.  On 
desktop one, the icons names
are also missing completely, but on desktops 2-4 the icon names are there, 
in english, but the rest
of the dialogs are in gibberish.  Since I can't run the KDE2 config program 
inside KDE (it runs, can't

read it tho) How can I fix this problem from console mode??

Any suggestions would be most helpful.

Regards,

Todd 

Strange KDE2 Language Problem after recent update, help pls.

[Todd Suess]

Greetings,

I have been running KDE2 and Woody for some time now with no problems, however
after a recent update, several things happened.  First of all, my console 
keymap got changed
to a non us one, so I could not login.  Once I figured out what was 
happening, I determined how
my keyboard was mapped, so I could login as root and use kbdconfig to fix 
the problem.  Then
I ran X-windows.  KDE2 comes up fine, but all the dialogs, etc are in 
gibberish, I guess it could
be a language like chinese, etc, but whatever it is, I can't read it.  On 
desktop one, the icons names
are also missing completely, but on desktops 2-4 the icon names are there, 
in english, but the rest
of the dialogs are in gibberish.  Since I can't run the KDE2 config program 
inside KDE (it runs, can't

read it tho) How can I fix this problem from console mode??

Any suggestions would be most helpful.

Regards,

Todd

Good way to keep kde2 up to date?

[Todd Suess]

Greetings,

I recently installed kde2, from the debs found with apt-get.  I would like 
to keep up to date
with the development snapshots as they come out, as many bugs get fixed in 
each one.


I am curious if any other debian users have a method they use to do this 
that avoids totally
screwing up dpkg, etc?  Do you you CVS, or what exactly?  Or do you just 
wait for the
debs to slowly trickle down?  I would be most interested in what others are 
doing to keep

"on the cutting edge" of things, as far as KDE2 goes.

Regards,

Todd

Many problems with KDE2

[Todd Suess]

My system upgraded itself during an apt-get dist-upgrade today to KDE2,
and man did everything get hosed now.  Just a few problems are:

1. kdm no longer starts at login, I enter username and password and
get put into a shell terminal (Eterm) where I have to type 
/usr/bin/startkde for it to run.  The symlinks, etc look correct
in my runlevels, but /usr/bin/kde2 which is supposed to start at
boot will not function.

2. most of my desktop icons no longer work, such as Eterm, giving
messages like /usr/bin/Eterm does not exist, when I know it does.

3. Inability to either edit the properties of existing desktop icons
nor create new ones, simply no response to either action.

4. Kmail immedialy segfaults with a sig 11 if I try to send an outbound
email of any kind, either clicking on compose or selecting message/new
message.

Anyone else had any luck getting this mess to work?  I mean the interface
looks sweet, but with this much stuff not working, I may have to figure
out how to revert to the older kde, at least it worked right.

Suggestions or comments would be most helpful.

-Stuck in Pine

Todd

Problems with Apt-get dist-upgrade.

[Todd Suess]

Howdy Folks,

I tried to do a dist-upgrade about 3 or 4 days ago, and I got the following
messages, which are still happening today.

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  alsa-base libasound1
The following packages have been kept back
  kdeadmin kdebase kdegames kdegraphics kdenetwork kdeutils kdm sced
1 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
Need to get 43.8kB/83.4kB of archives. After unpacking 152kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Get:1 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org woody/main alsa-base 0.5.8a-4 [20.8kB]
Err ftp://ftp.us.debian.org woody/main alsa-base 0.5.8a-4
  Unable to fetch file, server said 
'/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/sound/

alsa-base_0.5.8a-4.deb: No such file or directory.  '
Get:2 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org woody/main anacron 2.3-1 [23.0kB]
Err ftp://ftp.us.debian.org woody/main anacron 2.3-1
  Unable to fetch file, server said 
'/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/admin

/anacron_2.3-1.deb: No such file or directory.  '
Failed to fetch 
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/sound

/alsa-base_0.5.8a-4.deb
  Unable to fetch file, server said 
'/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/sound/

alsa-base_0.5.8a-4.deb: No such file or directory.  '
Failed to fetch 
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/admin/

anacron_2.3-1.deb
  Unable to fetch file, server said 
'/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/admin/

anacron_2.3-1.deb: No such file or directory.  '
blackhole:~#

These files seem to be nowhere to be found in the debian file base, anyone 
else running into this
also?  Apparently the database has the above versions of the files, but the 
files themselves have

been misplaced, etc.
and if I do a apt-get install libasound1 I get the above message about 
alsa-base, so I guess libasound1

is part of alsa-base or something, not really sure what is going on.

Any clues?

Todd 

[no subject]

[Todd Suess]

Howdy Folks,

I tried to do a dist-upgrade about 3 or 4 days ago, and I got the
following
messages, which are still happening today.

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  alsa-base libasound1 
The following packages have been kept back
  kdeadmin kdebase kdegames kdegraphics kdenetwork kdeutils kdm
sced 
1 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not
upgraded.
Need to get 43.8kB/83.4kB of archives. After unpacking 152kB will be
used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
Get:1
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org
woody/main alsa-base 0.5.8a-4 [20.8kB]
Err ftp://ftp.us.debian.org woody/main alsa-base 0.5.8a-4
  Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/sound/
alsa-base_0.5.8a-4.deb: No such file or directory.  '
Get:2 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org woody/main anacron 2.3-1 [23.0kB]
Err ftp://ftp.us.debian.org woody/main anacron 2.3-1
  Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/admin
/anacron_2.3-1.deb: No such file or directory.  '
Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/sound
/alsa-base_0.5.8a-4.deb
  Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/sound/
alsa-base_0.5.8a-4.deb: No such file or directory.  '
Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/admin/
anacron_2.3-1.deb
  Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/admin/
anacron_2.3-1.deb: No such file or directory.  '
blackhole:~# 

These files seem to be nowhere to be found in the debian file base, anyone else running into this
also?  Apparently the database has the above versions of the files, but the files themselves have
been misplaced, etc.
and if I do a apt-get install libasound1 I get the above message about alsa-base, so I guess libasound1
is part of alsa-base or something, not really sure what is going on.

Any clues?

Todd


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[OT] Frontpage 2000 Question

[Todd Suess]

I just successfully installed Frontpage 2000 Extensions on my
Woody
box and the latest stable apache.  They work great for the root
web, I am
able to do anything I need to do.   I read a lot of the
documentation on Frontpage
but I am looking for a simple method to enable per-user 
webs.

I am using a standard $home/public_html setup for my users, and I
would like to
go in, for example, and allow user bob to use frontpage extensions,
but nobody else
at this point.  Bob's web would be located at
Http://www.servername.com/~bob.

Can anyone give me a quick example on how to do this using
fpsrvadm?

Regards,

Todd


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Bandwidth Limiting ftpd?

[Todd Suess]

Does anyone know of an FTPD for debian that supports limiting
upstream/downstream bandwidth on either a system wide or
(preferred) user/group basis?  I am currently using a cable modem
with a very high downstream rate, but an upstream rate limited to 
128k, so if I have several users logged in download at 5k/sec, it
seriously limits my downstream speed because the return packets
cannot go as fast as the downstream would like them to.  Most of my
users download overnight, so if I limited them to 3k/sec, and most of
the time I have at most 2 ppl downloading at the same time, that would
still leave me with upstream bandwidth to play with.  Any suggestions
would be helpful.

Regards,

Todd



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User access to write vfat partition? [Nevermind]

[Todd Suess]

Doh, never mind, I figured it out.   Linuxconf can be a wonderful tool.
Thanks anyway,

Todd

User access to write vfat partition?

[Todd Suess]

Hey gang,

I want to temporarily allocate some disk space I have spare on my
/dev/hda1 partition (vfat)
and link it to a symbolic link in a users directory so he can upload
files.  The setup
works fine if I create links for all the files manually, but if the
directory is empty and he
logs in and tries to upload he gets permission denied, because
apparently my /cdrive
mount point and the /dev/hda1 itself is set to user root group
root.  These cannot (as far
as I have been able to figure out so far anyway) be modified with
the normal chown/chgrp
commands, so I am at a loss as to how to give a regular user write
permission via ftp
to this device.  The contents of my fstab are as
follows:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#   
 
 
/dev/hdb1  
/
ext2   defaults,errors=remount-ro
0  1
/dev/hdb2  
none 
swap  
sw
0  0
proc   
/proc proc  
defaults  
0  0
/dev/hdb3  
/var 
ext2  
defaults  
0  2
/dev/hdb5  
/home ext2  
defaults  
0  2
/dev/hdb6  
/usr 
ext2  
defaults  
0  2
/dev/hda1  
/cdrive   vfat  
defaults  
0  2

In reading the mount man page I saw it was possible to allow users
to mount and unmount
a device, but nothing about permissions for reading, writing etc
depending on user group
or name.

Any suggestions would be most appreiciated,

Regards,

Todd


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Re: apt-get gets stuck

[Todd Suess]

Yup, it's a known bug with the latest cvs.  For me, I purged all the
cvs packages and then reinstalled them fresh and it worked fine.

Regards,

Todd


On Fri, 03 Mar 2000, Pollywog wrote:
> I ran 'apt-get upgrade' (potato) and this is what I got:
> 
> The following packages will be upgraded
>   bsdutils cvs cvs-doc cvsup debconf mount netmask python-numeric setserial
>   util-linux whois 
> 11 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 17 not upgraded.
> Need to get 2744kB of archives. After unpacking 616kB will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
> Get:1 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main bsdutils 1:2.10f-3 [29.9kB]
> Get:2 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main mount 2.10f-3 [85.0kB] 
>  
> Get:3 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main util-linux 2.10f-3 [504kB] 
>  
> Get:4 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main whois 4.4.9 [16.9kB]   
>  
> Get:5 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main setserial 2.17-10 [33.0kB] 
>  
> Get:6 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main cvs 1.10.7-5 [456kB]   
>  
> Get:7 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main cvs-doc 1.10.7-5 [875kB]   
>  
> Get:8 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main cvsup 16.1-3 [324kB]   
>  
> Get:9 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main debconf 0.2.80.13 [128kB]  
>  
> Get:10 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main netmask 2.3.3 [20.8kB]
>  
> Get:11 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main python-numeric 11-11.5 [272kB]
>  
> Fetched 2744kB in 14m13s (3216B/s)
>  
> Configuring packages ...  
> 
> It just gets stuck there.  Did this happen to anyone else?
> 
> --
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> 
> 
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Re: Dselect is hanging at `Configuring packages ...'

[Todd Suess]

I got this problem last night as well, turns out the culprit was 
the
postinst script for cvs.  I uninstalled cvs and reinstalled it from
scratch
and it works fine after that.

Regards,

Todd




At 10:47 AM 3/3/00 -0800, you wrote:
I am running `potato', and upgrade packages
every day (yes, I'm living
on the edge here).

This morning I ran `dselect', chose "[U]pdate",
"[S]elect", and
"[I]nstall" as usual.  It showed me 15 packages that it
would upgrade
(the following list only shows 14 packages; that's because I
upgraded
`debconf' using apt-get, thinking it might fix the problem I'm now
describing):

 All
packages  
Updated packages (newer version is available)    
  Updated Required
packages  
   
Updated Required packages in section
base    
 *** Req base
bsdutils 2.10f-2
2.10f-3 
 *** Req base
mount   
2.10f-2 2.10f-3 
 *** Req base setserial   
2.17-9  2.17-10

 *** Req base util-linux  
2.10f-2 2.10f-3 
  Updated Important
packages  
   
Updated Important packages in section
net    
 *** Imp net 
whois   
4.4.8  
4.4.9   
  Updated Optional
packages  
   
Updated Optional packages in section
devel    
 *** Opt devel   
cvs 
1.10.7-4    1.10.7-5    
   
Updated Optional packages in section
doc    
 *** Opt doc 
cvs-doc  1.10.7-4   
1.10.7-5    
   
Updated Optional packages in section
net    
 *** Opt net 
samba   
2.0.6-4 2.0.6-5 
 *** Opt net  samba-common
2.0.6-4 2.0.6-5 
 *** Opt net 
samba-doc    2.0.6-4
2.0.6-5 
 *** Opt net 
smbclient    2.0.6-4
2.0.6-5 
 *** Opt net 
swat
2.0.6-4 2.0.6-5 
   
Updated Optional packages in section
otherosfs    
 *** Opt otherosf smbfs   
2.0.6-4 2.0.6-5 
   
Updated Optional packages in section
x11    
 *** Opt x11 
dpsclient    0.5.9.1+000 0.5.9.1+000 

Anyway, once I hit the Enter key to start the installation, I saw
this:

    10:39:39 [/tmp]# dselect 
    Reading Package Lists... Done
    Building Dependency Tree... Done
    14 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove
and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 0B/5017kB of archives. After unpacking
56.3kB will be used.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
    Configuring packages ... 


... and it just hung.  The processes that were eating up CPU time
were
`config.2668' and `dpkg-preconfigure'.

Any ideas what's wrong?  My system is probably not utterly hosed;
I
suspect I can configure these packages "by hand", by using
apt-get (it
worked for `debconf', at least).


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[UPDATE] Re: Update this morning killed local login.

[Todd Suess]

Ok, I reconfigured my keyboard as suggested by a couple of people, and that
fixed the login problem, but X was still failing to load on boot.  On checking
the /init.d/kdm file I noticed that it was failing because it was looking for a
command parse-xf86config which was apparently removed when the new
version of Xfree was installed with this mornings update.  I commented out
the offending lines in the kdm file and now the system boots and runs X as
expected, however this is only a stop gap method.  Looks like it will be up
to the KDE developers to fix this one...

Regards,

And many thanks to all those that helped,

Todd




On Thu, 02 Mar 2000, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 06:08:01PM +0100, Grendel wrote:
> > ** On Mar 02, Todd Suess scribbled:
> > > 
> > > Greets ppl,
> > > 
> > > I did an apt-get dist-upgrade this morning, and after that I can no longer
> > > log in to the console.  I had just rebooted after the update, and was 
> > > watching
> > > the kernel boot messages, when I saw something strange pop up.  It was 
> > > similar
> > > to the following (going from memory)
> > > 
> > > Checking for valid XFree86 configuration file.unable to check!
> > > Not starting KDM Windows Manager
> > > 
> > > I then got a normal non X login console screen, but no matter what
> > I got that several times as well. It turned out that the keyboard was
> > initialized in a way that some keys (apparently at random) were swapped -
> > e.g. q/a, y/z. At first I thought the problem was that I selected a Polish
> > keyboard (Poland has two keyboard layouts - one "official" and practically
> > not used :), and the other one "programmers". The official one uses the
> > qwertz layout while the other the standard US one), but the keys were
> > swapped each time differently. It was enough for me to login remotely, su to
> > root and reinitialize the keyboard. To see whether it is your problem - just
> > type the password as a login name and see whether all characters are
> > correct. I failed to find where the problem lied since the keyboard layout
> > initialized by console-tools worked OK when the keyboard was reinitialized.
> 
> I once had my usual "qwerty" keymap replaced with "azerty" following an
> update.  That took a while to diagnose  
> 
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> What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?
> 
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Re: Update this morning killed local login. (I think I found it)

[Todd Suess]

At 09:53 AM 3/2/00 -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 09:46:37AM -0500, Todd
Suess wrote:
> 
> Greets ppl,
> 
> I did an apt-get dist-upgrade this morning, and after that I can no
longer
> log in to the console.  I had just rebooted after the update,
and was watching
> the kernel boot messages, when I saw something strange pop up. 
It was similar
> to the following (going from memory)
> 
> Checking for valid XFree86 configuration file.unable to
check!
> Not starting KDM Windows Manager
> 
> I then got a normal non X login console screen, but no matter
what
> username and password I use, I get invalid login.
> 
> Luckily my machine is on a cable network and I was able to ssh
in
> from work, so the machine is accepting remote passwords, just
not
> console logins.  Since I am sshing in I have not tried starting
X remotely
> yet, wanted to see if anyone had any ideas before I muck around too
much.
> 
> One thing I did notice was that the Login package was updated in the
update
> this morning, and it was right after that that things stopped
working.

Can you be more specific as to the problem, as in what messages come
up
when you type in your username and password?

Also try typing in your password on the username line to make sure it
is
coming up as it should. It is a known issues that kbd is for some
reason
setting up systems as azerty keyboard instead of qwerty, like it
should.

Ben

Just for the heck of it, I decided to see what was happening at the end
of the kernel boot
sequence when it went to check for a valid Xwindows config.  I
checked the following and
this is what I found.

blackhole:/etc/alternatives# update-alternatives --display
x-window-manager
x-window-manager - status is manual.
 link currently points to /usr/bin/X11/vtwm
/usr/bin/kde - priority 10
Current `best' version is /usr/bin/kde.

I have not had vtwm installed for a long time, for no apparent reason my
x-window-manager
was updated to a nonexistant window manager, thus the problem.  Not
sure if this would affect
local console login, but could it?  I tried to do this:

blackhole:/etc/alternatives# update-alternatives --config
x-window-manager

There is only 1 program which provides x-window-manager
(/usr/bin/kde). Nothing to configure.

What would be the correct procedure to get things back pointing at kde
again?

Regards,

Todd



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Re: Update this morning killed local login.

[Todd Suess]

At 09:53 AM 3/2/00 -0500, you wrote:
On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 09:46:37AM -0500, Todd
Suess wrote:
> 
> Greets ppl,
> 
> I did an apt-get dist-upgrade this morning, and after that I can no
longer
> log in to the console.  I had just rebooted after the update,
and was watching
> the kernel boot messages, when I saw something strange pop up. 
It was similar
> to the following (going from memory)
> 
> Checking for valid XFree86 configuration file.unable to
check!
> Not starting KDM Windows Manager
> 
> I then got a normal non X login console screen, but no matter
what
> username and password I use, I get invalid login.
> 
> Luckily my machine is on a cable network and I was able to ssh
in
> from work, so the machine is accepting remote passwords, just
not
> console logins.  Since I am sshing in I have not tried starting
X remotely
> yet, wanted to see if anyone had any ideas before I muck around too
much.
> 
> One thing I did notice was that the Login package was updated in the
update
> this morning, and it was right after that that things stopped
working.

Can you be more specific as to the problem, as in what messages come
up
when you type in your username and password?

Also try typing in your password on the username line to make sure it
is
coming up as it should. It is a known issues that kbd is for some
reason
setting up systems as azerty keyboard instead of qwerty, like it
should.

Ben


When I enter a known valid username and password at the console, I get
about
a 10 second pause, and then invalid login.  The relevant lines from
auth.log look
something like this.

Mar  2 08:06:03 blackhole PAM_unix[436]: authentication failure;
LOGIN(uid=0) -> tsuess for login service
Mar  2 08:06:07 blackhole login[436]: FAILED LOGIN (1) on `tty1' FOR
`tsuess', Authentication failure
Mar  2 08:06:15 blackhole PAM_unix[436]: authentication failure;
LOGIN(uid=0) -> root for login service
Mar  2 08:06:19 blackhole login[436]: FAILED LOGIN (2) on `tty1' FOR
`root', Authentication failure
Mar  2 08:06:42 blackhole PAM_unix[436]: authentication failure;
LOGIN(uid=0) -> todds for login service
Mar  2 08:06:45 blackhole login[436]: FAILED LOGIN (3) on `tty1' FOR
`todds', Authentication failure

Note, these are all known good passwords, and I know it's not kbd because
the keyboard types my username
correctly (I did type the password on the login line as suggested, it
looks fine.)

I am able to ssh into the machine fine, it seems to be either a pam issue
or a login issue, I suspect login
however since it was just updated.

Regards,

Todd


-BEGIN
GEEK CODE BLOCK-
Version: 3.12
GAT d- s:++ a C UL P+ L++ E W++ N++ o-- K- w 
O- M-- V-- PS+ PE Y++ PGP 5++ X++ R* tv+ b+ DI++ D++ 
G e h--- r+++ y+++ 
--END GEEK CODE BLOCK--

Update this morning killed local login.

[Todd Suess]

Greets ppl,

I did an apt-get dist-upgrade this morning, and after that I can no
longer
log in to the console.  I had just rebooted after the update,
and was watching
the kernel boot messages, when I saw something strange pop up. 
It was similar
to the following (going from memory)

Checking for valid XFree86 configuration file.unable to
check!
Not starting KDM Windows Manager

I then got a normal non X login console screen, but no matter
what
username and password I use, I get invalid login.

Luckily my machine is on a cable network and I was able to ssh
in
from work, so the machine is accepting remote passwords, just
not
console logins.  Since I am sshing in I have not tried starting
X remotely
yet, wanted to see if anyone had any ideas before I muck around too
much.

One thing I did notice was that the Login package was updated in the
update
this morning, and it was right after that that things stopped
working.

Regards,

Todd



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GEEK CODE BLOCK-
Version: 3.12
GAT d- s:++ a C UL P+ L++ E W++ N++ o-- K- w 
O- M-- V-- PS+ PE Y++ PGP 5++ X++ R* tv+ b+ DI++ D++ 
G e h--- r+++ y+++ 
--END GEEK CODE BLOCK--

Sound in KDE

[Todd Suess]

I am using OSS (Commericial) with my Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold,
and for
most things, the sound works awesome.  However, for some reason
I cannot get
the KDE System Sounds to function at all.  I have enabled them,
but hitting the test
button does nothing, and generates no errors in the syslog,
etc.  Sounds in ICQ, and
all other things (KMP3, etc) all work as expected, only the system
sounds are silent.

Anyone else ran into this and have any clue?

Thanks!

Regards,

Todd


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GEEK CODE BLOCK-
Version: 3.12
GAT d- s:++ a C UL P+ L++ E W++ N++ o-- K- w 
O- M-- V-- PS+ PE Y++ PGP 5++ X++ R* tv+ b+ DI++ D++ 
G e h--- r+++ y+++ 
--END GEEK CODE BLOCK--

Problem with RealPlayer and Netscape

[Todd Suess]

Greets,

I finally downloaded RealPlayer and got it set up on my potato/woody system,
and I had no trouble setting the mime type so it launches Realplayer ok, but
once it launches Realplayer it just sits there, the clicked link never 
opens inside
realplayer.  If I click the link again, it just opens another realplayer 
window.  The

only way to actually get content to play is to copy the link from netscape and
paste it into the "open location" dialog in realplayer.  I know there must 
be a way

to have the content play automagically, but have not found it yet.  Anyone have
a clue/similar problem?

Best Regards,

Todd

Adelphia Powerlink and Debian

[Todd Suess]

Greetings Group,

I am getting my cable modem installed tomorrow finally, and it is a Adephia
Cable Two-Way External Cable Modem.   Anyone have any experience getting
this one (or cable modems in general) working with Debian?   I looked thru the
Cable-Modem-Mini_HOWTO but the only information in there is regarding one way
cable , which used the Surfboard 1000 Internel Cable Modem, the new ones are
external and fully two way, no phone line needed.  Any information would be 
most

appreciated, since Adelphia only supports WinBlows.

Thanks!

Todd

Re: 3COM905B 10/100 Ethernet Config [FIXED]

[Todd Suess]

Well, just for the heck of it, I removed the card, reinstalled it
and recompiled the kernel again.   This time it found the card,
loaded it properly, and eth0 is up and running!  Thanks so much
to all those that offered suggestions and help.  The main reason I
like Debian is the quality and the helpfullness of the user base.

Thanks!

Todd

PS.  Now the only thing I have left is to get this pesky SCSI
card to work.





At 08:41 PM 2/8/00 -0600, Phil Brutsche wrote:

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> I don't have the dmesg output handy, but I double checked and saw
> no reference either to the card or the driver.   quite strange.

Indeed.  What kernel version are you using?  What about any PnP settings
in the BIOS?

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universe. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

Re: can't ftp into box

[Todd Suess]

Once you are connected, try issuing the following commands:

ftp> user 
ftp> pass 

That should log you in.  Windows Command Prompt FTP
kinda blows, it needs the commands sent to actually login,
it won't do it automatically.

Regards,

Todd



On Tue, 08 Feb 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> Hi. I'm trying to install linux onto my notebook. It has no cdrom, so
> I'm trying to transfer some files via ftp from my debian box into the
> laptop (which runs win98 of course ;^( ). I've set up an ethernet link
> between the boxen, and have the laptop on 192.168.2.2, and the Debian
> box has 192.168.2.1 on the interface that talks to the notebook.
> 
> I can ping either computer from either one. Moreover, I can telnet
> from the notebook into the Debian box w/o any problem. It's just to
> ftp into the debian box that I can't.
> 
> I can ftp into the same computer from another box on my network
> (different subnet, though -- 192.168.1.*) with no problem. And no, I
> am not trying anonymous connection.
> 
> An ftp session from ms-dos window looks like this:
> c:\>ftp 192.168.2.1
> > ftp: connect :10061
> ftp>
> 
> After which I can't execute any ftp command, getting "Not connected"
> message.
> 
> I don't get any prompts to enter my user name or password.
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated!
> Thanks!
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> 
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3COM905B 10/100 Ethernet Config

[Todd Suess]

Greetings,

I installed a new 3COM Ethernet Card into my Debian Box in preparation
for the install of my cable modem in a week or so, and after recompiling the
kernel (2.2.14) with the correct Ethernet Driver, during bootup the card 
does not
seem to be sensed at all, and no eth0 device gets created.  I can do a 
lspci on the

card, and this is the output, if that is helpful at all.

Any suggestions on how to get this beast working would be 
appreiciated.  According to
the Ethernet HOWTO if the driver is installed it should automagically 
detect the card
and no /dev entry is required, I should just be able to do ifconfig and see 
a new

interface called eth0.

Regards,

Todd

blackhole:~# lspci




00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] 
(rev 30)

Subsystem: 3Com Corporation: Unknown device 9055
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- 
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- 
SERR- 
Latency: 10 min, 10 max, 64 set, cache line size 08
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
Region 0: I/O ports at 6800
Region 1: Memory at e800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- AuxPwr- DSI- D1+ D2+ PME-
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

blackhole:~#

SCSI Adapter Settings/Debian

[Todd Suess]

Greetings folks,

I have an Adaptec 152x SCSI card attached to a Archive Python DAT drive.
This all works fine in windows, but in Debian it is trying to assign the 
wrong IRQ to
the adapter card, thus the tape drive never gets detected.  All relevant 
kernel modules
have been compiled into the kernel, which is 2.2.13 on Potato/Woody 
hybrid.  The
address range for the card is correct, but Debian is looking for the card 
on IRQ 12 when
it is really on IRQ 9.  What do I need to change to tell it to look on the 
correct irq?  I don't
believe I had to set the address range when I compiled the kernel, it 
seemed to find it on

it's own.  Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks!

Todd

Re: Mount w98 partition

[Todd Suess]

My Windows drive is /dev/hda1, I mount it with the following
command.

mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /cdrive

where cdrive is a mount point I created in the root of my Debian
Filesystem

You would just have to find out which drive and partition your windows
drive is.

Good Luck,

Todd



At 02:24 PM 2/3/00 -0800, davidturetsky wrote:
I'm trying to mount
my Windows98 partition from Linux
 
Cannot seem to work out the 
command
 
I presume the idea is to mount the entire
partition and then access the files there through ordinary Linux
resources
 
David

Re: 501 .... Sender domain must exist errors.

[Todd Suess]

In my experience, this error is often caused by the domain being
removed from the root servers because money is owed to Network Solutions
(Internic) for the domain.  This is easily checked at www.networksolutions.com.
I work as a Technical Support Manager at a large ISP and we see this all
the time, and most of the time that's the cause.  Other possabilities can be
broken DNS, etc.

Regards,

Todd


On Tue, 01 Feb 2000, Tom Fuchs wrote:
> Christopher,
> I am having the same problem with my server.  Have you figured out what
> needs to be done?
> 
> 
> Tom Fuchs
> Computer Systems Administrator
> EDMO Distributors, Inc.
> "You're only a failure when you stop trying..."
> 
> 
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No Updates?

[Todd Suess]

I have both Potato and Woody in my sources.list file, and have downloaded new
package indexes the last two days, but when I do an apt-get dist-upgrade it 
says
0 updated packages.  Is something wrong, or have the updates just been 
extremely
slim the last few days?  I have a fairly extensive install of potato, I 
just found it odd to

have 2 days in a row with no updates.

Regards,

Todd

Reading ext2fs from Windows?

[Todd Suess]

I was wondering if anyone knows of a WinBlows Utility for mounting and
reading/writing to a ext2fs partition from Windows?  It's useful to be able
to read and write my vfat partitions from Debian, but is the reverse possible?
Since I rarely boot windows anymore, I usually download everything to my
potato box instead, including software to keep windows up to date.  Sometimes
I reboot into windows and forget to grab that 20 meg update I just downloaded
and would like to be able to at least get read only capability to my debian
partitions without rebooting, etc.   Anyone know of anything to do this?

Regards,

Todd

Re: Debconf problem after upgrade

[Todd Suess]

I get this message at times too, as far as I can tell,
it's harmless.

Todd



On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Pollywog wrote:
> I started to run 'apt-get upgrade' today and I get this:
> 
> Configuring packages ...  
> WARNING: Using deprecated debconf compatibility library.
> 
> I stopped the process from continuing and I don't know if it is safe to
> proceed.  Does anyone else get this too?  I am using Potato.
> 
> --
> Andrew
> 
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Re: updatedb not working / bug in updatedb

[Todd Suess]

I noticed this as well, and I fixed it by copying frcode into the same dir
as the updatedb program, it then works fine.  I know it's a quick fix, but it
worked.

Regards,

Todd



On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> After more tinkering around, I think I've found the problem.  The problem
> is that updatedb is not able to execute the frcode program which it calls
> to compress the database.  In looking at an older version of updatedb, it
> contains the line: 
> 
> : ${LIBEXECDIR=/usr/lib/locate}
> 
> but the version from potato has the line:
> 
> : [EMAIL PROTECTED]@}
> 
> I'm not much of a shell hacker so I don't know what @libexecdir@ is
> supposed to do, but evidently it's not setting the path correctly so
> frcode is not being run and updatedb dies without creating the file. 
> Guess I should file a bug report if I can remember how to do that.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I'm using potato.  Today I tried doing "locate filename" and I got
> > "warning /var/lib/locate/locatedb more than 8 days old".  My understanding
> > is that this is supposed to be updated daily via cron in the script
> > /etc/cron.daily/find.  I wondered if cron was broken so I tried running
> > the script manually.  The file /var/lib/locate/locatedb was not modified. 
> > So, it seems as if updatedb is broken on my system.  Or is something else
> > wrong with my system? 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Gerry
> > 
> > 
> 
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Netscape removed, why?

[Todd Suess]

Just did an apt-get update tonight, and while doing my nightly apt-get
dist-upgrade, this was the result.

tsuess:~# apt-get dist-upgrade -s | more
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  communicator-base-47 communicator-nethelp-47 communicator-smotif-47
  communicator-spellchk-47 gconv-modules libc6-bin netscape-base-4
  netscape-base-47 netscape-java-47
The following packages have been kept back
  mutt
20 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

Why would an dist-upgrade want to totally remove my Netscape, which works
fine?

Regards,

Todd

Re: modem support

[Todd Suess]

Unfortunetly at this point in time win modems are really not supported,
and due to the way they function, probably never will be.
I recommend a good external modem, such as a USR/3COM Sportster
or if you can afford it/find it for a good price a USR/3COM Courier.
I have an external courier I have had for almost 10 years now, and it
works awesome, it was fully software upgradeable to X2 and then V.90,
it has seem MANY thousands of hours of use and still works awesome.

Regards,

Todd


On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, James Taylor wrote:
> Hello:  I am using a US Robotics 56k Voice Win modem.  I ran pppconfig
> (correctly) and get a log that indicates:
> 
> pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
> tcgetattr:  Input/ouput error (5)
> Exit
> 
> I assume Linux does not support the Win modems.  Is that correct?  Is
> there not a "patch" or something available?
> 
> If that is NOT the problem, any support, info., or other pointers would
> be appreciated.
> 
> James
> 
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Re: Just noticed my midnight commander is broken

[Todd Suess]

I tried as you suggested, with export TERM=xterm and now mc
works as normal.  interesting.   Should a bug report be filed
against something?

Thanks!

Todd



On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> * "Todd" == Todd Suess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Todd> Already running 5.0-4.  This is the strace output, if it helps at all.
> 
>  open("/usr/lib/terminfo/x/xterm-color", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
>  (No such file or directory)
> 
>  open("/usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm-color", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
>  such file or directory)
> 
> Hmm. I only have /etc/terminfo/x/xterm-color
> 
> Maybe it is missing in ncurses-base.
> 
> Can you try export TERM=xterm and try again?  This fits to the other
> report in -user, that mc works on a VX (TERM=linux), but not in X.
> 
> Ciao,
> Martin

Just noticed my midnight commander is broken

[Todd Suess]

I have not used my mc for about a week or so, but needed to use it tonight for
something and this is what I get when I run it.

tsuess:~# mc

name_trunc: too bigname_trunc: too bigname_trunc: too bigname_trunc: too
bigSegmentation fault

tsuess:~#

It worked fine the last time I ran it, it is the current version for unstable,
being 4.5.42-7

After this crashed, I also notice that I can no longer cut and paste text in
the xvt window I tried to run mc in, and even a terminal reset does not fix
it.

Anyone else getting this?

Regards,

Todd

Problem at ftp.debian.org?

[Todd Suess]

I did an apt-get update tonight, and then tried to do apt-get dist-upgrade. 
This is what I get.

tsuess:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back
  cbb mutt
33 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 12.5MB/12.6MB of archives. After unpacking 703kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Get:1 ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main menu 2.1.5-2.1 [364kB]
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main menu 2.1.5-2.1
  Unable to fetch file, server said 
'/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/admin/menu_2.1.5-2.1.deb: No such file 
or directory  '
Get:2 ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main lapack 3.0-5 [1866kB]
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main lapack 3.0-5
  Unable to fetch file, server said 
'/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/libs/lapack_3.0-5.deb: No such file or 
directory  '
Get:3 ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main auctex 9.9p-13 [345kB]
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main auctex 9.9p-13
  Unable to fetch file, server said 
'/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/tex/auctex_9.9p-13.deb: No such file 
or directory  '
Get:4 ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main lapack-dev 3.0-5 [1987kB]
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main lapack-dev 3.0-5
  Unable to fetch file, server said 
'/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/devel/lapack-dev_3.0-5.deb: No such 
file or directory  '
Get:5 ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main gnome-bin 1.0.54-2 [70.2kB]
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main gnome-bin 1.0.54-2
  Unable to fetch file, server said 
'/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/x11/gnome-bin_1.0.54-2.deb: No such 
file or directory  '

All 33 "upgraded" packages give the same result.   Any ideas?

I tried several times over 3-4 hours, same result.

Regards,

Todd

Staying with Woody

[Todd Suess]

What changes will I have to make to my sources.list file in order to continue
following the new unstable, since unstable right now seems to not work on most
mirrors if I use unstable, do I need to wait a while then change all my
unstables to woody, or just wait until the unstable mirrors get sorted out?  I
like living on the bleeding edge of technology.   grin.

Thanks!

Re: root should be able to do anything... right???

[Todd Suess]

Use lsattr and check the attributes on the file, if is is listed as type
i (imutable) for example, you will not be able to remove the file unless
you use chattr and remove the attribute first.

Regards,

Todd



At 12:57 PM 1/17/00 +0100, Ron Rademaker wrote:


Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory
but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had
weird permissions:

c---r-   1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec  1  2031 fonts

Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes
ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f.
I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the
only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted.

Any suggestions???

Ron


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suidregister problems after dist-upgrade today

[Todd Suess]

I got the following errors after a apt-get dist-upgrade today.
apt-get failed on setting up, so I ran dpkg --configure --pending to fix the
remaining packages.  Below is the output.

tsuess:~# dpkg --configure --pending
Setting up eterm (0.8.10-7) ...
Checking available versions of eterm-pixmaps, updating links in 
/etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Automatic updates of /etc/alternatives/eterm-pixmaps are disabled, leaving it 
alone.
To return to automatic updates use `update-alternatives --auto eterm-pixmaps'.
Checking available versions of x-terminal-emulator, updating links in 
/etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Leaving x-terminal-emulator (/usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator) pointing to 
/usr/bin/X11/xterm.
Leaving x-terminal-emulator.1.gz (/usr/share/man/man1/x-terminal-emulator.1.gz) 
pointing to /usr/X11R6/man/man1/xterm.1x.gz.
Global symbol "$username" requires explicit package name at 
/usr/sbin/suidregister line 173.
Global symbol "$groupname" requires explicit package name at 
/usr/sbin/suidregister line 174.
Global symbol "$inode" requires explicit package name at /usr/sbin/suidregister 
line 178.
Execution of /usr/sbin/suidregister aborted due to compilation errors.
dpkg: error processing eterm (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
Setting up xscreensaver (3.22-2) ...
Global symbol "$username" requires explicit package name at 
/usr/sbin/suidregister line 173.
Global symbol "$groupname" requires explicit package name at 
/usr/sbin/suidregister line 174.
Global symbol "$inode" requires explicit package name at /usr/sbin/suidregister 
line 178.
Execution of /usr/sbin/suidregister aborted due to compilation errors.
dpkg: error processing xscreensaver (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
Errors were encountered while processing:
 eterm
 xscreensaver
tsuess:~#  

If anyone has any idea what the problem might be, and/or how to fix it, please
let me know.Thanks!

Todd

Re: ^c broken in latest potato

[Todd Suess]

Yup, I rebooted the machine, etc, and even if I am on the
console and SU'd to root in a kvt window under KDE, if I do
tail -f /var/log/syslog or any kind of command, ctrl-c will not
exit the task.  Have to ctrl-z and then kill %1 to actually kill
the job.

Todd




At 01:00 PM 1/11/00 -0500, Ben Collins wrote:

On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 12:55:19PM -0500, Todd Suess wrote:
> tsuess:~# dpkg --list login
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
uppercase=bad)

> ||/ NameVersion Description
> 
+++-===-===-

> ==
> ii  login   19990827-16 System 
login tools

> tsuess:~#

Well, if you are still having a problem with ^C (note, you must restart
your su shell), then it isn't caused by the login package. I tested it
thoroughly, and it worked in bash and tcsh.

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Re: ^c broken in latest potato

[Todd Suess]

tsuess:~# dpkg --list login
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersion Description
+++-===-===- 
==

ii  login   19990827-16 System login tools
tsuess:~#




At 12:47 PM 1/11/00 -0500, Ben Collins wrote:

On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 12:40:55PM -0500, Todd Suess wrote:
>
> > > > It is su, and it will be fixed in tomorrow's dinstall run.
> > >
>
> I updated login last night during apt-get dist-upgrade but ctrl-c is
> still broken.

What version of the login package?

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Re: ^c broken in latest potato

[Todd Suess]

> > It is su, and it will be fixed in tomorrow's dinstall run.
>


I updated login last night during apt-get dist-upgrade but ctrl-c is
still broken.

Regards,

Todd

Re: ^c broken in latest potato

[Todd Suess]

I noticed this as well, I think it crept in in an update a few days
ago.  I first noticed it while tailing a log with -f, had to ctrl-z to get
out of it.

Todd


On Sat, 08 Jan 2000, George Bonser wrote:
> Cant seem to kill a running process with ^C anymore. Noticed the problem
> last night but do not know when the problem crept in.
> 
> I can suspend the process with ^Z and then kill it manually with kill but
> ^C does not seem to work anymore. 
> 
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Re: error installing debconf

[Todd Suess]

I am getting almost exactly the same error, except mine is as follows:

tsuess:~# apt-get -f dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
28 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 118kB of archives. After unpacking 62.5kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Get:1 ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main debconf 0.2.65 [118kB]
Fetched 118kB in 26s (4489B/s)
Configuring packages ...
(Reading database ... 77408 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace debconf 0.2.60 (using .../debconf_0.2.65_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement debconf ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/debconf_0.2.65_all.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite directory `/usr/sbin' in package sudo with nondirectory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/debconf_0.2.65_all.deb
E: Sub-process returned an error code (1)
tsuess:~#
 
I would also love to know how to fix this as it is preventing the other 28
packages I downloaded from completing the dist-upgrade.

Regards,

Todd





On Fri, 07 Jan 2000, Mike Werner wrote:
> Greetings everyone.  I'm having a problem trying to install debconf.
> I just did a full upgrade to potato this evening.  I then tried to
> install a new package (everybuddy) that relied on debconf.  When
> apt-get went to install debconf I got the error:
> 
> HAL9000:/var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg -i debconf_0.2.65_all.deb
> (Reading database ... 69770 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking debconf (from debconf_0.2.65_all.deb) ...
> dpkg: error processing debconf_0.2.65_all.deb (--install):
>  trying to overwrite directory `/usr/sbin' in package libcurses-perl with 
> nondirectory
>  Errors were encountered while processing:
>   debconf_0.2.65_all.deb
> 
> When I examined the .deb using mc I found that there is a shell script
> called /usr/sbin - the header of which says that it reconfigures a
> package by running the package's confmodule and then the postinst.
> 
> Can anyone here let me know how to fix this?
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Re: Perl5 is looking for termcap?

[Todd Suess]

Install termcap-compat and that will eliminate the
error message.  Not sure why it occurs, but that fixes
it.

Todd




On Fri, 07 Jan 2000, Shaul Karl wrote:
> As far as I know, by default Debian does not use termcap.
> There for, I consider the following a bug somewhere.
> 
> Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at 
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305
> 
> Am I right? Whose package is responsible?
> 
> 
> The more complete picture is the following:
> 
> [04:14:04 /tmp]# apt-get dist-upgrade 
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Calculating Upgrade... Done
> 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 5 packages not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B/118kB of archives. After unpacking 62.5kB will be freed.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
> Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at 
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305
> 
> Configuring packages ...  
> (Reading database ... 37904 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace debconf 0.2.60 (using .../debconf_0.2.65_all.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement debconf ...
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/debconf_0.2.65_all.deb 
> (--unpack):
>  trying to overwrite directory `/usr/sbin' in package logrotate with 
> nondirectory
> Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at 
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305
> 
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  /var/cache/apt/archives/debconf_0.2.65_all.deb
> E: Sub-process returned an error code (1)
> [04:15:36 /tmp]# 
> 
> The debconf error is already reported by someone else.
> 
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Re: umount - URGENT

[Todd Suess]

Perhaps a reboot would free the device?  I know it's drastic,
but you did say RIGHT NOW.

Regards,

Todd



At 05:52 PM 1/7/00 +0100, Robert Waldner wrote:
maybe mc is hasn't died completely? with ist working directory pointing to 
the the cdrom? or you have another wd to the cd anywhere else...


On Fri, 07 Jan 2000 17:47:37 +0100, Blazej Sawionek writes:
>I've just fallen into serious trouble:
>can not umount my CD-ROM - it is reported as beeing used.
>I'm sure it is not, what may have happened is that I was examining it's 
conten

>ts with `mc' which died suddenly.
>
>I desperatly need this CD out _right_now_ so please if anybody knows the 
answe

>r - give it ASAP.
>
>Blazej


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Problem with ncurses since 01/02/2000 apt-get dist-upgrade

[Todd Suess]

I recently did a apt-get dist-upgrade on Jan 2nd, which updated ncurses to
version 5.0.   I didn't notice any problems at first, but I went to build a
custom version of Nethack and noticed that it failed to compile with curses
errors.  In examining the directorys, I found the following.  During the update
to curses5 all these links were changed in my /usr/include directory.

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   11 Jan  2 20:54 curses.h -> ../curses.h
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root8 Jan  2 20:54 eti.h -> ../eti.h
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Jan  2 20:54 form.h -> ../form.h
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Jan  2 20:54 menu.h -> ../menu.h
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 Jan  2 20:54 ncurses.h -> 
../ncurses.h
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   10 Jan  2 20:54 panel.h -> ../panel.h
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Jan  2 20:54 term.h -> ../term.h 
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 Jan  2 20:54 termcap.h -> 
../termcap.h
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   11 Jan  2 20:54 unctrl.h -> ../unctrl.h

All of these are broken symlinks, and with a little furthur testing I have
confirmed that no program that requires curses will now build sucessfully on my
potato system.   Has anyone else ran into this problem, and is there a
suggested fix?  With so many programs using curses now days, this seems to be
a serious problem.

Any suggests would be most appreciated.

Todd

Netscape Communicator 4.7 dies silently.

[Todd Suess]

Greetings all,

Anyone else noticed that at times Communicator will just die silently while
minimized, leaving no error messages, etc?  I usually have about 5 navigator
windows open to various sites and check and referesh them regularly
(I am using potato, XFree 3.3.5, and Kde 1.1.2), but sometimes I will pull up
my window list and all occurances of Communicator will be closed with no
errors showing.  Just curious if anyone else has seen this behaviour and if
there is any workaround/fix for it.  I checked memory to see if that might be an
issue and while physical memory was a little low I still had plenty of swap
space left.

Regards,

Todd

Memtest86

[Todd Suess]

Greetings,

I downloaded and installed hwtools (latest potato version) mainly because
I wanted to use memtest86.  I followed the instructions and copied it to a
floppy and tried to reboot using that floppy, but instead of booting it just
passes on to my hard drive boot instead.  I use a boot disk to boot Debian
off of /dev/hdb1 and don't have a problem with that, but this disk does not
seem to want to boot.  Am I doing something stupid here, or did I miss
something?  Any suggestions would be most helpful.

Thanks!

Todd

Re: Aiii, xfree86redux

[Todd Suess]

Just to put my $.02 in, I have my voodoo3 2000 PCI working fine in
X with NOTHING except Xfree86 3.3.5.  I didn't use any of the 3DFX
drivers at all.   Granted, I don't play Quake3 or anything, but the graphics
quality and speed are plenty good for me at this point.

Regards,

Todd



At 08:15 AM 12/24/99 -0800, Steve Winston wrote:

Concerning my problems installing a Voodoo3 card:
Do I have to install the new stock Xf86 3.3.5 drivers before I install
the the drivers I downloaded from linux.3dfx.com?
  I already had the linux.3dfx.drivers as rpm files leftover from
installing them on linux mandrake 6.0. That was a hassle, too.
anyway, when I went to install them on debian, the machine told me I had to
get the xfree86 3.3.5 drivers first as my version of debian had the
3.3.2 drivers. So, I did apt-get, etc, and got them. But I guess I havent
installed them correctly because when I try to install the 3dfx drivers,
the install programs complains about installing them with the stock 3.3.5
drivers. What was your experience installing the driver for Voodoo3?
I did it OK in linux mandrake although there was a lot of downloading and
installing.
thanks and merry xmas, Steve

aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
if you want 3D acceleration make sure to get the XF86 drivers from
http://linux.3dfx.com as they are heavily modified.  the stock XF86 3.3.5
doesnt work so great with my banshee..(which uses the same driver)

nate


On 21 Dec 1999, Steve Winston wrote:

xee42 >Helphelp,
xee42 >I am trying to install 3dfx Xfree86 drivers for my voodoo3 video card.
I am
xee42 >running into a conflict between these drivers and the debian drivers.I
am
xee42 >using Debian that Oreilly and Var are selling. 2.1.? Any ideas how
xee42 >to get around this. Details are below:
xee42 >I have successfully downloaded and installed Xfree86 3.3.5 from
debian.org.
xee42 >Also, I have installed the RedHat package manager that works with
alien. Now,
xee42 >I have 5 rpm packages of the 3dfx Xfree86 drivers to install. S:
xee42 >alien -i Xfree86~1.rpm (to take care of the first package)
xee42 >  Installation starts but ends with following messages:
xee42 >  Unpacking xfree86-SVGA (from Xfree86-svga-3.3.35-1.6_i386.deb)
xee42 >   dpkg: error processing xfree86-svga_3.3.5-1.6.i386.deb (--install):
xee42 >   trying to overwrite '/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA', which is also in
xee42 >   package xserver-svga
xee42 >   dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (broken pipe)
xee42 >  Errors were encountered whil processing:
xee42 >   xfree86-svga_3.3.5-1.6_i386.deb
xee42 >alien: error running: dpkg --no-force-overwrite -i xfree86
xee42 >(and more stuff, but I got called away and didn't finish writing it
all).
xee42 >   Note: I had two install two Glide packages, also .rpm, that I used
xee42 >alien -i to install and it all went well and slick.
xee42 >  Adios, Steve
xee42 >
xee42 >
xee42 >


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Re: pon problems with Potato

[Todd Suess]

I got that recently when I reinstalled potato, I cured it by using
AT&F as my init string in pppconfig.  Once I did that I never
got the error again.

Regards,

Todd



At 11:38 AM 12/23/99 -0800, Clyde Wilson wrote:

I've just converted to potato. When I try to bring up ppp with pon
I get:

Dec 23 11:16:13 Spock chat[146]: CONNECT
Dec 23 11:16:13 Spock chat[146]:  -- got it
Dec 23 11:16:13 Spock chat[146]: send (\d)
Dec 23 11:16:14 Spock pppd[145]: Serial connection established.
Dec 23 11:16:14 Spock pppd[145]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 23 11:16:14 Spock pppd[145]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Connection terminated.
Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Exit.

Any suggestions?


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Can someone answer this? (qt1g problem)

[Todd Suess]

Greetings,


I have asked this before, but either nobody saw it, or nobody knew, so I am
posting this again in the hopes someone will know the answer.

Many of the KDE apps rely on a library called qt1g, which dselect claims
"To not appear available".   Checking my system, I find a library called
libqt1g which claims in the package description to "replace and provide"
qt1g.

Apparently dselect is not able to determine that it should be able to install
any program that depends on qt1g due to the fact that services provided
by that library are satisfied with libqt1g.

Is there a way to convince dpkg that it should install these programs
anyway, or would the package(s) have to be modified by the maintainer
to satisfy these dependancy problems?

Any help would be most appreciated.

Regards,

Todd

qt1g?

[Todd Suess]

Greets,

Many apps (especially KDE ones) seem to depend on qt1g, which according to the
status info for libqt1g:

Package: libqt1g
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: non-free/libs
Installed-Size: 1891
Maintainer: Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: qt1g
Version: 1:1.45-0.2
Replaces: qt1g
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1), libstdc++2.10, xlib6g (>= 3.3.5)
Conflicts: qt1, qt1g 

So, if it replaces qt1g  why do the related packages still compain about
qt1g not seeming to be available?  Do modifications need to be made to
the relevant packages to allow them to install?

Regards,

Todd

Re: Files in /var/lib/dpkg/

[Todd Suess]

/var/lib/dpkg/available is the file that keeps track of all packages currently
available to be installed, based on the package info retrieved by apt-get update
and your sources.list file.

/var/lib/dpkg/status is the database file that contains information about the
state of all packages currently install, removed, etc from your system.

As a side note, never delete the status file by mistake, I did, and now I have
to reinstall my entire system to get things back to normal.  If you are going to
do any manipulation or modification of these files, make SURE you make
backups.  I wish I had.

Regards,

Todd



On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote:
> What is the difference b/w /var/lib/dpkg/status and
> /var/lib/dpkg/available ?
> 
> I am experimenting with a Java application to list/display detailed
> information on all installed packages on a Debian system but can't be
> sure which file to start with - /var/lib/dpkg/status or
> /var/lib/dpkg/available ?
> 
> Also, where can I find detailed documentation on the files (and their
> format) in /var/lib/dpkg ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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> ssahmed AT pathcom DOT com
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Dpkg Woes

[Todd Suess]

Ok, if you read my previous email, you know I made a serious mistake and 
accidently
deleted /var/lib/dpkg/status while I was cleaning out the old status files 
to save some

space.

Obviously, dpkg now has no idea of what packages are installed on my 
system, and

is broken.

Is there any way to generate a new status file from all the info, etc that 
dpkg keeps

under /var/lib/dpkg?

Are their any good file recovery programs for debian, so that I might have 
a chance of

recovering one of the status files, such as status.old or status.yesterday.0?

Or am I just plain looking at reinstalling everything from scratch?  Last I 
remember my
status files(s) were about 3.5 megs each, as I am running a fully updated 
potato

system.

Any help would be most appreiciated.

Todd

I think i'm hosed.

[Todd Suess]

I have a feeling I will be reinstalling my system, but I was going thru and
cleaning up old logs, etc and accidently deleted /var/lib/dpkg/status when I
meant to delete the old status files.  Is there any way to regenerate the 
status

file or is dpkg now totally and horribly broken?

Regards,

Todd

Re: Looking for right ISP

[Todd Suess]

Actually, most DSL providers WILL allow you to run a web server,
just not under "personal class" DSL.  There are many options for
"business class" DSL, and some of them are quite cheap, considering
what you get versus Frame Relay, Dedicated ISDN, etc.

Regards,

Todd



On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, Daniel Yang wrote:
> Thanks for response.
> Running a personal web server through  a dialup account has been approved
> just fine. The performance is more acceptable than some highly-hit web
> sites.
> What do you mean by co-location? Many DSL providers won't allow users run
> their servers also. Could you give the names of who does.
> 
> Thanks
> Daniel
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Daniel Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Debian-User 
> Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 10:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Looking for right ISP
> 
> 
> >A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
> >
> >> Hi, everyone.
> >> Eventually, I made my web server and my own domain (www.mydomain.com)
> >> running, but my ISP, mindspring told me that I am not allowed to run a
> >> web server through a dialup account and they can't do anything for me
> >> if I want to run my own server.
> >
> >You mean run a web server off a modem dial-up account?  Not to sound rude,
> >but why would you do a thing like that?  Saying that it'd be slow would be
> >a gross understatement.  Dial-up accounts aren't meant for servers;
> >they're meant for Joe Generic to surf the web and download porn.
> >
> >> Then I have to look for a new ISP who provides such service and not
> >> expensively.
> >
> >1) find one that does co-location
> >2) if you have cable or xDSL access in your area, ask about running a
> >   server through their service.  It'd be a hell of a lot faster.
> >
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Re: Canon BJC-1000 printer

[Todd Suess]

As a matter of fact, yes.  I just got one of these, and initially had no luck in
getting it to print.   I came to find out, with some very useful info provided
by folks on this list, that the printer cannot print plain ascii text without
it being converted to postscript.  Assuming you have set the printer up
correctly, try doing an apt-get install printtool, and run it from X.  Add
a new printer, and select the BJC600/BJC4000 Print Driver.  Once you
have used Printtool to set up the printer, try running the Postscript test,
it should print out a nice test page.  The ASCII tests will NOT work, however
I have had good luck using the a2ps package to convert plain ascii
test to postscript.  Example.   ls-al | a2ps Will produce a directory listing
from the printer.  If you need any help with how I have my printcap file,
etc, set up just email me, I am glad to help.

Regards,

Todd




On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, John Hasler wrote:
> Has anyone had any luck getting a Canon BJC-1000 printer to work with
> Debian?  I've tried the bj200 driver, but I don't know for sure that the
> (brand new) printer is working.  I don't have Windows.
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Re: Stubborn Printer

[Todd Suess]

I use Magicfilter, I will try setting it up for the BJC600 driver and see if
it will work that way.  Thanks for the help!

Todd



At 05:41 PM 11/28/1999 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ok, so that means I can only print to that printer using Ghostscript?
> More or less making it kinda useless as a general printer, right?

Why useless?  If your /etc/printcap is set up right, magicfilter (or
whatever you use) will translate plain ASCII to Esc/P and print it
just fine.
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Re: Stubborn Printer

[Todd Suess]

Ok, so that means I can only print to that printer using Ghostscript?
More or less making it kinda useless as a general printer, right?

Regards,

Todd


At 02:20 PM 11/28/1999 -0500, Mike Werner wrote:

Todd Suess wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I just got a new printer, a Canon BJC1000 which I got for free,


This printer does not do plain text.  According to
http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/show_printer.cgi?recnum=139017
it works using the BJC600 or BJC4000 Ghostscript driver.
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Stubborn Printer

[Todd Suess]

Greetings all,

I just got a new printer, a Canon BJC1000 which I got for free,
so I can't complain much.  It works fine under windows, and I seemed
to get it all installed correctly under potato, but it refuses to print.
My printcap, etc seems to be all set correctly, the kernel identifies the
printer on bootup thusly:

parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2]
parport0: Printer, Canon BJC-1000   
lp0: using parport0 (polling). 

lpc, etc tell me the print spooler is up, and active.

But anything directed to /dev/lp0 seems to vanish into the bitbucket.
Jobs never show up in the queue, and nothing ever comes out of the
printer.

doing a cat /dev/lp0 produces the following status information coming
from the printer via the IEEE 1284 interface.

#DWS:NO;DOC:4,00,NO;DSC:NO;DBS:NO;#DWS:NO;DOC:4,00,NO;DSC:NO;DBS:NO;


Anyone have any experience with Canon Bubblejet Printers, etc?  I recompiled the
kernel and added all the relevant modules as compiled in code, and the printer
seems to be communicating with the system, but is never initiating the print
process.   Any suggestions would be most appreiciated.

Regards,

Todd

Boot Floppy

[Todd Suess]

Part of  the install of a new kernel calls a utility to make a new boot
floppy, does anyone know exactly what function is used for that,
as I want to make a couple of spare boot disks, just in case, since I
boot strictly from floppy and do not use lilo or any other boot manager.

Thanks!

Todd

Blocking ICMP requests from certain hosts?

[Todd Suess]

Hi ppl,

I have several friends who are admins at a local company, and they seem to think
it is amusing to flood ping my debian box which is on a 56k dialup.  Is there
any way to block ICMP packets just from that host?  I do like to be able to ping
my machine from various places to check latency, etc, so if I could just block
that host from pinging me it would be excellent.

Any ideas?

Regards,

Todd

Latest Acct package broken?

[Todd Suess]

I just did my nightly apt-get dist-upgrade, and it downloaded about 26
packages, one of which was acct  6.3.5-16.  After downloading all the packages,
apt went right into configuring packages.  and it stopped.  and sat.  and sat.
I let it sit about a half hour with no hard drive activity, before I killed it.
I went to /var/cache/apt/archives and manually did dpkg -i * and installed
all the packages.  They all installed except acct, which did the exact same
thing as with apt.   I purged acct completely, and tried apt-get install acct.
Same thing.  I finally killed it again, and am currently running with
accounting functions.  Anyone else run into this?

Regards,

Todd

Re: Lynx and .deb

[Todd Suess]

Pressing d or D on the .deb file links downloads them fine, AS TEXT.
and alas, quite nonfunctional ...   But I did get the source files and
compiled it eventually.

-Todd


On Sun, 07 Nov 1999, Jonathan Markevich wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 09:57:13PM -0500, Todd Suess wrote:
> 
> [long, complex conversation about downloading .debs from Lynx snipped]
> 
> Wow, has everyone forgotten that you can press "d" on any link and download
> it instead of displaying it?  This includes viewable files like HTML and
> text, so should work fine with no conversion or corruption.
> 
> Or am I missing the point?
> 
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> 
> Let sleeping dogs lie.
>   -- Charles Dickens

Re: Lynx and .deb

[Todd Suess]

> Which web page are using?  If http://debianpine.tripod.com, don't
> bother.  Use http://members.mint.net/frodo/pine the .debs there are known
> to be good.  With netscape you have to right click on the link and select
> save as...  If you still have problems let me know.  I am the maintainer
> of those .debs.
> 
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Actually, yes, it was your page I was trying to get them from.  :)
I was finally able to use lynx to get the source tarball, diff and dsc
file and was able to compile it into debs myself, but every time I
tried to get the debs they were sent as text, and thus, corrupt.  I
didn't try netscape, I did try IE, Lynx and Opera, and used the
right click - save as method, but they still came out corrupt.  But at
least I did get Pine 4.20, compiling it was not a big deal.  Thanks!

Todd

Re: Lynx and .deb

[Todd Suess]

I am actually trying to download the debs from the pine 4.20
web page.  No matter how I try to download them, using http,
they come out as corrupt when dpkg tries to install them.

They are not available via ftp from the web site in question,
and even using my windows machine I can't get them to
download and moved to my potato box without them being
corrupt.  I tried to download the tar source, and that worked
ok, but the web browser whacked the diffs file and it would
not compile.

Any suggestions would be appreiciated.

Todd


At 10:36 AM 11/7/1999 +1100, Brian May wrote:

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>True, but not really relevant. The MIME type returned by the server
>determines if the client sees the deb as text or not. Contact the server
>admins and have them add entries to mime.types.

Only applies if http is used.

If some other protocol (eg ftp) is used (possibly via http proxy), the
server cannot return a MIME type. I don't know how good programs (eg
Lynx and Squid) are at determining the file type by the extension.

Unfortunately, the original poster failed to specify how the file is
downloaded.
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Re: Lynx and .deb

[Todd Suess]

Yup, it goes to a deb file, and there is an entry for deb in
/etc/mime.types for a deb listing it as a debian package file,
but perhaps that is not explicit enough for lynx, which insists on
downloading them as content: text

-Todd



On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, Jan Ludewig wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 04:54:03AM -0500, root wrote:
> > I have used lynx for a while but am not familiar with it's advanced
> > functionality, I have pored through the docs but cannot seem to find
> > out where I can tell Lynx that when downloading a .deb file it should
> > NOT download it as text.  ;)  does this have to do with system mime
> > types, etc, or is there something I can add to lynx.cfg that will let
> > it know that .debs are binary?   Thanks!
> switch to advanced mode ( "O" to get to the options) to see wether the
> link really goes to a deb-file
> type "d" for download
> 
> or define it as a mime-type ;)
> 
> Jan

console-tools-data errors on install.

[Todd Suess]

Looks like the latest console-tools-data and console-tools has
a bug.  See following output upon installation attempt.

Setting up console-data (1999.08.29-3) ...
Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305

a2h has a programming bug at /var/lib/dpkg/info/console-data.config line
218,  chunk 6.
dpkg: error processing console-data (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of console-tools:
 console-tools depends on console-data (>> 1999.08.29-2) |
console-data; however:
  Package console-data is not configured yet.
  Package console-data is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing console-tools (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 console-data
 console-tools
E: Sub-process returned an error code (1)
tsuess:~#

I will report this as a bug, anyone else get this also?

-Todd

Re: apt-get fails

[Todd Suess]

I also got this error, but corrected it by placing a zero length file called
confmodule in the /usr/share/debconf directory, and then running
apt-get -f install and it finished normally.

-Todd





Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

100% [Scanning packages]
Configuring packages ...
/tmp/fileK7MiKx: /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: No such file or directory
E: Sub-process dpkg-preconfig --apt returned an error code (1)
E: Failure running script dpkg-preconfig --apt


This is repeatable.

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apt-get sources.list for KDE

[Todd Suess]

Greets,

Does anyone have a sources.list entry for KDE, etc that works well?
kde.tdyc.com which I normally use has been very unstable and slow as
of late.   These are my current entries.  Any substitutes would be most
welcome.

Thanks!

Current Lines:

deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/debian slink kde kde2 contrib rkrusty
deb-src ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/debian slink kde kde2 contrib rkrusty 

Next Unstable Version

[Todd Suess]

Since potato is scheduled to freeze sometime in early november last
I heard, is the next unstable gonna be named "woody"?   :)

-Todd

Re: non-us apt-get config

[Todd Suess]

I use these lines in sources.list:

deb ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US
deb-src ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US



At 07:48 AM 10/23/1999 -0700, Uurcus the Swale wrote:

Hi, can somebody please tell me exactly what line I need in
/etc/apt/sources.list to access the non-US archives?
I need to use FTP not HTTP, and currently I have non-us.debian.org listed
as the FTP host.

Thanks in advance!



Regards,

Todd

Re: Center ICQ Program

[Todd Suess]

As a footnote to my own message, once I installed g++, the program 
compiled flawlessly, and works pretty neat!  Anyone looking for a text
(ncurses) based icq client for Debian really should try this out.

Regards,

Todd


On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Todd Suess wrote:

> www.freshmeat.net, it was in yesterdays or wednesdays new archives list.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 08:39:30AM +, Todd Suess wrote:
> > > 
> > > Anyone have any idea what cc1plus is?  I thought I had everything
> > > I needed on this system to compile, etc but apparently I am
> > > missing something?
> > > 
> > 
> > cc1plus is the part of gcc that can compile C++ files. Did you install g++ 
> > and
> > related files?
> > 
> > Btw where can I get this client, do you have the link?
> > 
> > -Lex
> > 
> 
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Re: Center ICQ Program

[Todd Suess]

www.freshmeat.net, it was in yesterdays or wednesdays new archives list.

regards,

Todd


On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 08:39:30AM +, Todd Suess wrote:
> > 
> > Anyone have any idea what cc1plus is?  I thought I had everything
> > I needed on this system to compile, etc but apparently I am
> > missing something?
> > 
> 
> cc1plus is the part of gcc that can compile C++ files. Did you install g++ and
> related files?
> 
> Btw where can I get this client, do you have the link?
> 
> -Lex
> 

Center ICQ Program

[Todd Suess]

Hey gang,

Anyone here ever try using the Center ICQ program for Linux?
It is a complete text based client for ICQ, no x required!  :)
I tried to compile it and got the following error:

tsuess:~/tmp/center-1.10.7/center# make
cd ../ktools/src; make; cd ../../center
make[1]: Entering directory `/root/tmp/center-1.10.7/ktools/src'
gcc kfile.cpp -c -I/usr/include -I../include -I/usr/include/g++-2
-I/usr/local/src/SSLeay-0.9.0/include -o kfile.o
gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or
directory
make[1]: *** [kfile.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/tmp/center-1.10.7/ktools/src'
gcc centerICQ.cpp -c -I/usr/include -I../ktools/include
-I/usr/include/g++-2  -o centerICQ.o
gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or
directory
make: *** [centerICQ.o] Error 1

Anyone have any idea what cc1plus is?  I thought I had everything
I needed on this system to compile, etc but apparently I am
missing something?

Thanks,

Todd

Re: Pine4.20

[Todd Suess]

Have not found any debs, but I downloaded the precompiled linux binarys
from the pine home site and they work fine.  Just called then pine420, pico420
and pilot420, so far they work great and 4.20 has neat color which 4.10 didn't.

:)


At 10:20 PM 11/7/99 +0100, Mats Johansson wrote:



Are they any unoffical deb out there with Pine 4.20 as it was with
Pine4.10?


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Re: can I list just the directories, executables?

[Todd Suess]

It might have been a fluke, so far I have not been able to get it
to work again.  And ctrl-alt-del said it would shut down the system
but then I got several messages saying PID (blah) appears to be hung.
and then the system locked tight, had to power it off.
I will keep an eye on it tho, and do some testing, and if I can
get it to repeat I will file a bug report about it.

Thanks!

Todd


On 20 Oct 1999, Colin Marquardt wrote:

> * Todd Suess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> If your shell is the bash (as I suppose), just press the TAB key
> >> twice. You´ll get a big list of executables in your path. (You can
> >> see what your path is by typing "echo $PATH" (without the quotes).
> 
> > Interestingly enough, I hit tab twice as suggested on my system
> > and bash segfaulted and locked up my system.   ;)
> > Perhaps we found a bug.
> 
> Really interesting. Is this reproducible? If yes, it´s worth a bug
> report. Could you start a new bash with strace and/or gdb and make
> it crash? (Not that *I* could debug it...)
> 
> And you say it locked up your system: does Ctrl-Alt-Del still work?
> If not, does Alt-SysRq work (see ./Documentation/sysrq.txt in your
> kernel source; requires a 2.2.x kernel)?
> 
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Re: can I list just the directories, executables?

[Todd Suess]

> 
> If your shell is the bash (as I suppose), just press the TAB key
> twice. You´ll get a big list of executables in your path. (You can
> see what your path is by typing "echo $PATH" (without the quotes).
> 
> HTH,
>   Colin

Interestingly enough, I hit tab twice as suggested on my system
and bash segfaulted and locked up my system.   ;)
Perhaps we found a bug.

-Todd

Re: slink and potato

[Todd Suess]

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Dave Baker wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Todd Suess wrote:
> 
> > I was brave, I just did apt-get dist-upgrade and waiting about 10 hours
> > for it to download everything and upgrade.  Have had very little trouble
> > with it.
> > 
> > -Todd
> > 
> > ps. for this to work, you of course have to have apt installed and
> > a entry in sources.list pointing to an unstable archive.
> > 
> 
> Having just spent some of the weekend fighting with this, I wonder if I
> can throw out a few Qs.
> 
> 1) did you have gnome installed?  I had to uninstall practically all of
> gnome by hand before apt-get would continue due to dependencies.

Nope, I did not have gnome installed.

> 
> 2) did you have emacs installed?  same deal as above.  Also some conflicts
> with bind and dnsutils stepping on each other during the upgrade (had to
> uninstall manually, then reinstall after it was done).  

Yes, emacs was installed, didn't really have any problems with it tho.
> 
> 3) when you add unstable sources in sources.list, do you first remove the
> stable ones?  I wonder if this could have caused some of my probs.

No, my sources.list still has stable and unstable entries, mainly because
I was too lazy to remove them, but once I upgraded since it goes by
version numbers everything I install now comes from unstable, so I guess
I could take the stable portions out, doesn't really matter.

> 
> 4) at what point does your kernel get upgraded to 2.2.x (or 2.3.x)?  Mine
> is sitting at 2.0.36 still and I'm in the process of using kernel-package
> to go to 2.2.12 - I had expected this to be done through the dist-upgrade
> but it didn't ...

I recompiled my kernel right from 2.0.36 to 2.2.12-3, but I did it after
my system was almost completely potato.  No problems compiling, and I have
compiles several more times since with no trouble.

> 5) I had to restart the apt-get dist-upgrade five or six times (or more)
> because it kept being killed by packages that didn't install correctly.

Interesting, I didn't have a problem with this, but if I did have a
package that didn't want to install correctly (such as dependancy
overwrite problems, etc) I just made a note of it and used dpkg -i --force
overwrite on those.

> 
> My debian install was a fairly fresh 2.1r2 with gnome and kde updates
> through apt.  Since I had a pretty awful time fighting through it, perhaps
> it can be of use to help the old stable -> new stable upgrade process go
> smoother for everyone else ...
> 
> -dave
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Re: slink and potato

[Todd Suess]

Those are directory aliases, they go to the same place.
If you cd to slink you will get to stable
if you cd to potato you will get to unstable.

regards,

Todd




Then how come at ftp.debian.org there's a directory named slink and also
a directory named stable, and a directory named potato and also a
directory
named unstable?

Re: slink and potato

[Todd Suess]

I was brave, I just did apt-get dist-upgrade and waiting about 10 hours
for it to download everything and upgrade.  Have had very little trouble
with it.

-Todd

ps. for this to work, you of course have to have apt installed and
a entry in sources.list pointing to an unstable archive.




At 04:33 AM 10/18/1999 +0530, T.V.Gnanasekaran wrote:

> Often you will see Slink = Stable, Potato = Unstable, but
> I have been using potato for a while now will little or no problems,
> and it works a lot better in many ways, at least for me.

I am running slink but I want to upgrade to potato. How do I go about?
What is the best way?

-gnana

Re: slink and potato

[Todd Suess]

Slink is the current stable debian release version, which is 2.1
Potato is the current unstable release version, which is due
to be released before the end of the year, god willing.  :)

Often you will see Slink = Stable, Potato = Unstable, but
I have been using potato for a while now will little or no problems,
and it works a lot better in many ways, at least for me.

Regards,

Todd




At 07:07 PM 10/17/1999 -0500, Ben Wong wrote:

Wha are slink and potato?

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Cysts

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Function Keys, MC and Telnet/SSH

[Todd Suess]

Greetings ppl,

I have recently started to use Midnight Commander a lot on my consoles, but if
I telnet/ssh into my box remotely, I can't seem to get a lot of the 
function keys

to work.  I have played with termtypes and such, but anything in the VT series
in particular seems to function with PF1-PF4, but anything higher does not 
work,

even defining the keys on my remote end to send VT control sequences, etc.
Is it possible to set the remote termtype to linux like it is on the 
VC's?  Does

anyone else have a method they use to translate function keys to a remote
host?  I know I could more than likely use VNC, but I have not tried the Linux
version if it yet, but that is a possability as well.

Any comments are appreiciated,

Todd

Re: Creating/Moving a partition

[Todd Suess]

Another alternative is simply to create a directory under /usr/local such
as /usr/local/tmp and then do:

apt-get dist-upgrade -o dir::cache=/usr/local/tmp

That will use the (for most people) much larger USR partition
and will give you plenty of space to upgrade.  That worked good for
me until I got mostly fully upgraded to potato, and now I use /var
again because I am only upgrading 15-20 packages at a time.

regards,

Todd

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Andrew Hately wrote:

> "David J. Kanter" wrote:
> > 
> > I'd like to make a new partition for /var because I don't have enough drive
> > space where /var is currently mounted (/) to run apt-get dist-upgrade.
> > What's the best way of doing this? I can create a new /var partition because
> > I've got plenty of available drive space, but what set-up files will I have
> > to modify to make sure things go smoothly?
> > 
> > I assume I'll have to change fstab. But then do I have to move all contents
> > of the current /var to the new /var? Could I create the new partition using
> > a temporary name, move all the /var stuff to it, then rename it to /var?
> 
> Thats what I would suggest.
> Stop everything you can, copy the contents and do the final swapover in one
> line, just in case
> # mv /var /old_var ; mv /new_var /var
> 
> Another alternative is to create a whole new, bigger, root partition, copy
> everyting to that, boot it from a rescue floppy and once there 
> 1) make it bootable, fix up /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo
> 2) remove the original root partition and replace it with an enlarged
> verion.
> It depends what else you've got on the disk, how much time you have, etc.
> 
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Several Questions

[Todd Suess]

Greetings Fellow Debian Enthusiasts,

I had a number of questions I have pondered all week, and thought
perhaps someone might know the answer.  Any help is most
apprieciated.

#1  After upgrading my slink box to potato a week or 2 ago,
I started getting the following error every time I install a
new package using apt-get.  It occurs during the unpacking/
configuration stage, and does not seem to hurt anything, but
if it can be fixed easily, I would sure like to.  The error is

Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305

I believe I read somewhere that termcap is not usually used
anymore in favor of ncurses instead?  Could this be related
somehow?

#2 I saw several messages refer to newer source/etc for
Pine, I am running 3.96 but if 4.xx is floating around out
there somewhere, could someone point me in the right direction
to find it?  Sounds like it adds some interesting new
features, etc.

#3 Not really a question, more of an observation.  I watched
the thread on procps and bsdutils, regarding the cross
inclusion of /bin/kill, and I noticed that in the latest version
of one of them, kill was removed and replaced with skill.  This
is find and good, because I can now use the built in kill command
in bash for various things, but I did have to fix the poff script
for ppp, because it broke when /bin/kill because /bin/skill.
Just in case anyone else had the same problem and did not know
how to fix it.

#4 One last question, for anyone that uses Tin/Rtin.  I have no
problems reading newsgroups, etc, and never had problems posting
to the newsgroups on other machines where I did not set it up.

However, on my own box, I can't seem to get it to post.  It's set
to use it's own internal inews, and I set all the options I thought
were needed (email address, etc), but when I go to post I get the
following message:

Invalid Sender: root (root@)

I created several user accounts, and got the same result from
them.  I checked all the normal places in /etc, /etc/tin, etc
but everything looks right.  The docs for Tin don't go into much
depth with inews, and the inews man page is really designed for
running inews externally, which I really didn't plan on doing,
since I am just accessing a remote NNTP server, just for my
own reading.

In any case, if anyone can help with any of these, it would
be great, and thanks in advance!

Todd

Re: dselect has gotten hungry

[Todd Suess]

This is a known problem with menu, which has since been fixed.
There is a thread called "VERY Strange Problem since last update"
which contains the particulars.  If it's not in the archives yet, there should
be some info in the bug reports also.

Todd







I have noticed this also, using apt-get.  I think it is dpkg calling
update-menus in the background.  If you run a top while the machine is
thrashing the #1 slot is usually a window manager.

I just tried to check to see if this is a known bug and IE locked up
the winbox I'm telnetted in from.  Kind of puts things in perspective.

Rob

RE: More: Re: crontab reports: ....

[Todd Suess]

see man suidregister, or you can edit the /etc/suid.conf file directly
and remove the offending lines.

-Todd



On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Pollywog wrote:

> 
> On 11-Oct-99 Art Lemasters wrote:
> > Allright, so what about the following?  Do programs sometimes
> > need to be unregistered as well?  Is the following a security
> > problem on my system?
> > 
> > /etc/cron.daily/suidmanager:
> > suidregister: /var/list/.bin/multigram registered but not installed
> > suidregister: /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail registered
> > but not installed
> 
> I get the same stuff after I upgrade but it goes away.  I have not been able
> to find the script responsible for it.
> 
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Re: Using linux 2.2.x with Debian 2.1

[Todd Suess]

I have been using a 2.2.12-3 kernel now with Debian 2.1, but I updated
everything to potato, after installing slink.  Other than a few minor
quirks I must say I am very pleased with it.

Todd


On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Aaron Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have read the errata conscerning Linux 2.2.x and Debian 2.1
> (http://www.debian.org/releases/2.1/running-kernel-2.2) and it basically
> said that I would have to mix the stable 2.1 release with unstable
> packages.  Has anyone had any problems doing this? Or is it not
> necessary to do?  What are some of your experiences running the 2.2.x
> kernel with Debian?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Shared Object Question

[Todd Suess]

Attempting to play around with the 3dfx files for X, came across this
error message, does someone know which package this might be a part
of?  I looked around in dpkt, etc, but the only thing I can see is it
might be a part of libtk-ruby?

Thanks!

./XF86Setup: error in loading shared libraries: libtk.so: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

-Todd

Re: APT strangeness

[Todd Suess]

Peter,

I had this same thing happen to me, so I dug into it a bit and this
is what I found.  Lynx-ssl depends on the slang1 library being below
versin 1.3.1 I believe, and since dist-upgrade trys to intelligently
handle dependancies, etc, since you installed a version of slang1 that
was higher than the version lynx-ssl needed to run, it marked the package
for un-installation.  I believe if you check the other packages that were
removed they would have a similar dependancy on slang1 or some other
program that was upgraded that the packages listed for removal
depended on being a lower version number.

In my case, since I use lynx-ssl quite a bit I had to downgrade slang1
to the previous version.

Regards,

Todd


On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, peter karlsson wrote:

> How is it that, sometimes, during a 'apt-get dist-upgrade', apt wants to
> remove packages that I have selected to install, and *not* said that I want
> to remove?
> 
> 
> # apt-get -s dist-upgrade
> Reading Package Lists...
> Building Dependency Tree...
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   ae gimp lynx-ssl modconf newt0.25 newt0.30 whiptail
> 
> [...]
> 
> I have not asked for any of the programs listed to be removed.
> 
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Re: I suspect the kernel: `ping', and name resolution in general, hangs

[Todd Suess]

Also, for what it's worth, I am running a 2.2.12-3 kernel on my dialup
potato box and name resolution works fine.

-Todd




At 11:58 AM 10/7/1999 -0700, Eric Hanchrow wrote:

For what it's worth: I installed the 2.2.12 kernel on my working slink
installation (which has never had the problem), rebooted, and promptly
saw name resolution hang.  I restored the 2.0.36 kernel, and
everything worked again.


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Re: VERY Strange Problem since last update

[Todd Suess]

At 04:15 PM 10/4/1999 -0700, Joey Hess wrote:

Todd Suess wrote:
> >I'll also bet you'll find several dozen update-menus processes running. If
> >you do, tell me what version of menu you have installed.

No, of _menu_ , not _pdmenu_.



tsuess:~# dpkg --status menu
Package: menu
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 1179
Maintainer: joost witteveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 2.1.3-2
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1), libstdc++2.10
Conflicts: pdmenu (<= 0.5.9)
Conffiles:
 /etc/menu-methods/translate_menus 2669426d33d2794a3e72bb2743dc8bdc
 /etc/menu-methods/menu.h c7b97b973c5f73625813cbdff8388f66
 /etc/menu-methods/menu.config ae6ec52278a5f4abf37db7f9955069ec


> Not several dozen, but I have noticed a few running, others may be 
running at
> a lower priority or something so as not to appear in the upper portion 
of the

> top screen I am viewing.

Do: "ps -ax | grep update-menus".


I will the next time this repeats, I suspect you are correct tho that there 
are many update-menus

running, and that is actually causing the thrashing of the harddrive.

Re: VERY Strange Problem since last update

[Todd Suess]

You mean a process _named_ pdmenu is doing this, I'll bet.


Yes



I'll also bet you'll find several dozen update-menus processes running. If
you do, tell me what version of menu you have installed.



tsuess:~# pdmenu --version
Pdmenu 1.2.47 GPL Copyright (c) 1995, 1996, 1997 by Joey Hess 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

tsuess:~#



tsuess:~# dpkg --status pdmenu
Package: pdmenu
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: shells
Installed-Size: 115
Maintainer: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 1.2.47
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1), libgpmg1 (>= 1.14-3), libncurses4 (>= 4.2-3.1), 
slang1 (>> 1.2.2-0)

Suggests: menu (>= 1.4)
Conflicts: menu (<< 1.4)
Conffiles:
 /etc/pdmenurc 550cd06dbf50b0ded1f1ce5922f62e7e
 /etc/menu-methods/pdmenu ab755c31fcb558f7edf6d69237a3f6f0
Description: Simple full screen menu program.
 A simple full screen menu program, intended to be comfortable
 login shell for inexperienced users.
 .
 Pdmenu interfaces with Debian's menu system, to provide
 automatically-generated lists of installed programs.

tsuess:~#

Not several dozen, but I have noticed a few running, others may be running at
a lower priority or something so as not to appear in the upper portion of the
top screen I am viewing.



l.

Yes, these are not pdmenu and afterstep, they are menu programs in
/etc/menu-methods/. They are updating your menu files. They tend to be
rather heavy on the cpu but should not be hitting it this hard. Either
you're seeing an old menu bug that made many of them be run at once, or some
other bug in menu that I don't know of.


That makes perfect sense.  I have been installing right along from the unstable
branch,  this is the first time a problem like this popped up.

Thanks for the feedback!

In case anyone was wondering where kde.tdyc.com went.

[Todd Suess]

In case anyone was wondering where the debian mirror at kde.tdyc.com
went, here is the email I exchanged with the site admin.



On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Todd Suess wrote:

> This site on your FTP server is missing all the debian unix archives, have
> they been
> removed for any particular reason, or is the site having problems?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Todd
> 

Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:11:35 -0700 (MST)
From: Scott Sawyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: EVCom Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc: Ivan Moore Security Help <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP Site at kde.tdyc.com
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

kde.tdyc.com is looking for a home and it is currently distributing only
the bare minimum for kde.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the actual
kde.tdyc.com administrator.

-Scott


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VERY Strange Problem since last update

[Todd Suess]

Ok, this is a good one.

I ran a recent apt-get dist-upgrade to complete the upgrade needed
to fully bring my slink system up to potato.  Since then, I have noticed
some very strange activity on my system.  Every time I run an apt-get
anything (update, upgrade, etc), the following happens:

1. Apt-get action completes.

2. pdmenu fires up and proceeds to thrash the hard drive for about
30 minutes, slowly chewing up all available system resources
(RAM and SWAP), until SWAP is down to 0k available.

3. pdmenu then stops, and all memory returns to normal.

4. afterstep fires up and proceeds to thrash the hard drive for about
30 minutes, slowly chewing up all available system resources
(RAM and SWAP), until SWAP is down to 0k available.

5. afterstep then stops, and all memory returns to normal.

**NOTE I am NOT running xwindows at this point, all I have open
is 2 VC's, one which I was running the apt-get on, and another
running top to monitor what is going on.

This sequence continues with the running (at least in top) of all
my installed xwindows managers (fvm, olvm, etc), and when the
last one is done thrashing the hard drive (this has now taken about
4 hours of time) , memory returns to normal, and the system
seems to be completely normal until I run another update, etc.

This is very perplexing, I cannot imagine a reason why any of
my xwindow managers would load without xwindows even being
open (or even configured at this point).  If anyone can suggest
ANY reason why this might be happening, I am very open to
suggestions.

Regards,

Todd

Re: LILO on second drive?

[Todd Suess]

Mainly because my /dev/hda is a large drive (17 gigs) and I do not want to 
risk replacing
my win98 MBR, etc, even though I have backups of everything, having to 
reload it all would
be a royal pain, abd quite time consuming.  Since BIOS supports booting 
from any drive,

why should lilo not be able to do it also?

Todd



t 10:35 AM 10/3/1999 -0700, Ernest Johanson wrote:

No idea about installing an MBR on a slave drive, but why not put the
additional configuration in your lilo.conf and boot from your master
drive? That way you can control the boot process from the lilo prompt with
out having to go into the BIOS.

Ernest Johanson
Web Systems Administrator
Fuller Theological Seminary

Re: Strange Behaviour of apt-get update

[Todd Suess]

To fix this, do the following:

edit 
/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.br.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i38 
6_Packages
with your favorite text editor (I use JOE), and search for aleph-dev and 
aleph-doc.  Correct the
spelling of the word optional in the priority fields of each package (there 
are 2).


save the file, and issue the command:

dpkg --merge-avail 
/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.br.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i38 
6_Packages


This will merge the package file into your database and you will have 
access to all packages.


Be aware that if you issue an apt-get update command again, you will have 
to redo the

above steps, at least until the package file is corrected on the remote end.

Regards,

Todd



At 09:19 AM 10/1/1999 +, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:

Hi all,
today I'm trying to update my machines with apt and there is a 
strange

error:
Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/main Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/main Release
Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/contrib Release
Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/non-free Release
Reading Package Lists... Error!
E: Malformed Priority line
E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1)
E: Problem with MergeList
/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.br.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i3 
86_Packages

E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
update available list script returned error exit status 100.
Press RETURN to continue.

What is this?
Thanks, Paulo Henrique


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re: Unstable package list at ftp.debian.org is bad

[Todd Suess]

I fixed this problem by doing the apt-get update as normal, editing the 
offending file to
fix the optionnal lines, and then running dpkg --merge-avail package file>
just don't redo apt-get update until the archive is fixed or you will have 
to perform the above

steps again.

Todd




At 12:47 PM 9/30/1999 +0200, Marcus Johansson wrote:


> ( two occurrences of optionnal changed to optional) and rerunning
> apt-get update, the file is downloaded again and I am where I started.

Try:

# apt-get check

That might fix the problem, not sure.

/Marcus




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Re: Getting The Most Out Of APT

[Todd Suess]

I would be happy to contribute, would I mail the APT Development
Group with suggested updates, etc?

Todd




At 09:06 PM 9/25/1999 -0600, you wrote:


On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Todd Suess wrote:

> took a fair amount of tinkering to get the format right, as the
> sources.list man page
> gives some fairly obscure and incorrect examples.   :)

Really? Send a patch in..

Jason


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Re: Getting The Most Out Of APT

[Todd Suess]

Ross,

Well, APT seems to be fairly intelligent in how it handles this
particular file anyway.  Once I did the update I did an
apt-get upgrade -s just to see what it would do.   It held back
like 197 packages and updated 127 existing ones.  Most
of the ones held back seemed to be involved with actually
upgrading from slink to potato.  I suspect that if I had issued
the command apt-get dist-upgrade it would have done more
along the lines of actually upgrading from slink to potato.

If one does want to completely upgrade the OS from stable
to the unstable branch, would apt-get dist-upgrade actually
do that, or would some other procedure need to be
done also?  or manually, thru dselect? (shudder).  ;)

Todd






Thanks for posting this.

When one lists both stable and unstable distributions, who wins (for
example, if you use the automatic update procedure)?

I might want to get a thing or two off unstable, but I don't want to just
pull everything since it might be, well, unstable :)

At 09:37 PM 9/25/99 -0400, Todd Suess wrote:
>I ended up creating a good (I think) sources.list file for apt-get ftp,
>so I wanted to share it with the group in case it could benefit anyone
>else, especially those to whom non-us.debian.org seems to have
>dropped off the map (Don't feel bad, I have an OC3 and *I* can't get
>there either.)   ;)
>
>/etc/apt/sources.list
>
>deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
>deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
>deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists stable/non-US/binary-i386/
>deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists unstable/non-US main
>contrib non-free


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Getting The Most Out Of APT

[Todd Suess]

I ended up creating a good (I think) sources.list file for apt-get ftp,
so I wanted to share it with the group in case it could benefit anyone
else, especially those to whom non-us.debian.org seems to have
dropped off the map (Don't feel bad, I have an OC3 and *I* can't get
there either.)   ;)

/etc/apt/sources.list

deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists stable/non-US/binary-i386/
deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists unstable/non-US main 
contrib non-free



took a fair amount of tinkering to get the format right, as the 
sources.list man page

gives some fairly obscure and incorrect examples.   :)

Thanks for the suggestions people gave me, they helped a lot also.

Regards,

Todd