Re: What is going on in debian-user?
The reason I don't do that, and trust me, I didn't see that much of it, is: (A)I am not advanced at the use of Linux (although I could call muyself a geek) (B)I need something that can talk to me effectively, and guess what guys: Linux sort of loses that bet for e-mail. So, I'll be here in gMail getting my spam (which all goes to the spam thing now) On 1/8/08, Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, s. keeling shared this with us all: --} It amazes me that they refuse to accept the obvious. Linux/Debian/Gnu --} provides all the solutions they need, yet they continue to rely on --} Lookout! and Gmail, instead of slapping in procmail/mailfilter and --} bogofilter/SA. Huh. I've no sympathy, sorry. I'm not seeing a crap --} flood from where I'm sitting. --} I don't think many of us do who use the applications you mention above. I have to admit that I knew there was a spam surge because I received 5 to 7 spam mails in my trash and then went to my mailfilter logs just to check it out. It was confirmed by the posts to the D-U list. Demonstrating that many people are still not relying on or trusting Debian to have what they require? Or maybe those of us that do know, are not letting it be known widely enough? Be well, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 ** The law will never make men free, it is men that have to make the law free. .Henry David Thoreau Debian - Just the best way to do magic. -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting System Stats
Hey, What would one type in to the shell to get some of the statistics of a machine? I am running asterisk on an old laptop, and I want to try to see if the studder I am recieving is caused by a terrible processor... -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is going on in debian-user?
You seem to think that it is just the debian-user list that is being spammed. I personally am recieving a great deal of spam, as well, and it is getting passed my filters as well. They have figured out a new way of doing it, and this will die down some time soon. Just deal with it for now. On 1/8/08, Hans Vogelsberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since some days debian-user list is full of spam. Most of it is already marked SPAM in subject by my provider's filter and therefore gets deleted by my personal filter (and shortly noted in my mailfilter.log). So do all the protesting mails with 'spam' in their subject line, which seem to be quite a lot. Others are found in the junk folder of Icedove. But there are still too many coming through (even Nigeria connection and Lottery mails!) On Jan 2 I protested against spam with the subject 'Pls check the new site'. After that, some big-mouth thought himself entitled to instruct me about what anyhow everybody knows: that I only receive what the spamfilters let through. Well, in the meantime it seems that every spam is let through by the debian-user filters. H. Vogelsberger -- To ?!?avoid spam?!? this address accepts only mails 'To:' subscribed lists. Zur ?!?Vermeidung von Spam?!? akzeptiert diese Adresse nur Mails 'An:' abonnierte Listen. Hans Vogelsberger, A-6130 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another flood of spam
That's good. Now I just have to deal with it on my personal address. On 1/8/08, Martin Zobel-Helas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 10:51:33 +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote: I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the floodgates? ;-) Should be fixed by now. See http://cord.de/blog/index.php?entry=entry080108-144308 for more details. Greetings Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD image download issue Opera, Konqueror, and Firefox/iceweasel
Maybe you could use bittorrent? On 1/8/08, joseph lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been trying to download the DVD images from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-dvd/ every attempt had the images giving me an error on the download after aproximately 24% completion (DVD 1 errors at 24% every time, other images are within a percentage or two), resuming the download has only given me an image which does not match the md5 sum. Downloads attempted through Opera, Konqueror, and Firefox/iceweasel all on a 5MB cable connection. i can't wget the images due to a space issue on my end. need them to go do an install on a computer w/o a good connection. anyway i was able to get all the cd iso's to download just fine (and all at one time) so it doesn't seem to be a bandwidth issue, and i am finding nothing on google (though i may have missed it skimming through) jwlockhart Registered Linux User #458799 Registered Kubuntu User #19678 this user is penguin powered Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No DNS consistency checks in Debian spam filter?
My oppinion is that we just give up on the spam. It happenned, it's over, just stop. On 1/8/08, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Bird writes: No, I checked headers during the flood. Debian was forwarding spam directly received from hosts with PTR records without matching A records. That just means it doesn't use your favorite method (because many ISPs have broken DNS). -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Goodbye
Yeah... It kind of sounds like I want attention and to harp on something that has been done to death... On 1/8/08, Mark Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel Roberts Joel.Roberts at pinkardcc.com writes: I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement some anti-spam measures, I'll be happy to join again in the future. There's no reason for this quantity of spam to be making it through on a mailing list. Wonder what the point of posting this was. Did he perhaps expect us to try to talk him out of it??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another flood of spam
I randomly started getting a lot of it that hit my inbox last night, too. About the same time. Very weird. And the gMail blocker usually gets stuff. I've had almost all of it to my inbox! On 1/7/08, Jonathan Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the floodgates? ;-) Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another flood of spam
I know! But it doesn't look like the advertisements for [insertnameofillegalprescriptiondrughere], it's just like e-bay and credit and I won [insertlargesumofmoneyhere]! On 1/7/08, Julian De Marchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shane D wrote: I randomly started getting a lot of it that hit my inbox last night, too. About the same time. Very weird. And the gMail blocker usually gets stuff. I've had almost all of it to my inbox! I to can report the same issue. Might be me, but still weird. Julian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another flood of spam
Yup. I'm even marking the stuff from this list, too... WooHoo! Saving the spam from the rest of the world. On 1/7/08, Chris Howie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 7, 2008 8:14 AM, Qubby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't seen anything in my Gmail inbox. Maybe Google zapped it before I checked my mail account? That's very possible. I've been furiously flagging things as spam in gmail all morning and others have probably flagged the same messages too, causing gmail to retroactively classify them as spam for you. (Maybe, not sure if that's how their filter works, but it'd be cool.) -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another flood of spam
True, but withouth them having helped us, there would be more of it. It's not good, but it is helpful. And I want to know why they know enough about me to _stop_ sending me ads. Where did they get the private information on, well, my private information? On 1/7/08, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 7, 2008, at 3:32 PM, David wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: In other words, give the list guys a break. It will likely be fixed in a day or so. Agreed! And, I've made the point before, spam is good. Without it, spam filtering wouldn't evolve. That's like saying if not for thieves, we wouldn't have developed door locks. It's true, but it doesn't mean that theft is good. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blind Debian Potential User
Thank you for the suggestion. I am just looking for a simple shell reader that will allow me to edit the .conf files for Asterisk with speech. I need to use the consol and to edit files. That's all I need on this machine. I have installed Festival and Flite. Has anyone used Screader before? Shane On 1/6/08, Tapio Kelloniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:57:38AM -0500, Shane D wrote: Anyway, I am questing a way to install Debian with Speech. I do not have a hardware synthesizer. I want a way of (A) Being able to install debian with speech I doubt it is possible, not sure though. I have done it using braille. (B) Having speech to use in the shell. I don't know what screader is, but if it is not for the console, then you have to use emacspeak, which is not necessarily a bad thing. The reason why I haven't done it is because it might (I don't know) hard to configure, and because Emacs's terminal emulator is a bit clumsy to use. -- Tapio -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blind Debian Potential User
Hello Debian Users, My name is Shane. I am new to the list. I am trying to install Debian on an older laptop of mine so that I can use it for an Asterisk box. I run a couple of radioshows, and need to take calls. Anyway, I am questing a way to install Debian with Speech. I do not have a hardware synthesizer. I want a way of (A) Being able to install debian with speech (B) Having speech to use in the shell. I don't want to use a graphical interface once it is installed. Any help would be greatly appreciated, and thanks in advance. Shane -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gcc setup problem
Hi, I am very new to C programming. I have recently installed Debian 1.3.1 including the following C development tools - gcc 2.7.2.1-9 libc55.4.33-6 cpp 2.7.2.1-9 binutils 2.7.0.9-3 libc5-dev5.4.33-6 libg++27 2.7.2.1-8 According to dselect, they are all installed correctly. When I try to compile a 'Hello, World' program, I get the following error - $ gcc hello.c hello.c:1: iostream.h: No such file or directory I have searched my whole hard-disk, and there is no file called iostream.h However, I did find lots of other commonly used header files, such as usr/include/asm/string.h usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/include/limits.h Can anyone see what's gone wrong? Here is the program I am trying to compile - $ cat hello.c #include iostream.h // This program prints Hello, World. main () { cout Hello, World.\n; return 0; } Thanks in advance -Shane D. McAndrew === | Where were you at Jan 01 00:00:00 GMT 1970 ? | === -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Press any key to see message: e...
Hi, I have a strange problem whilst reading the debian-user mailing lists with my mail reader Elm 2.4 PL25 and metamail 2.7-15. Below is an example of my inbox - M 1 Apr 18 debian-user-digest (725) debian-user-digest Digest V97 #126 P 2 Apr 17 debian-user-digest (826) debian-user-digest Digest V97 #125 P 3 Apr 17 debian-user-digest (909) debian-user-digest Digest V97 #124 The first message is recognised as mime coded message, and is displayed accordingly. The headers of the mail messages not displayed for some reason which I find a bit annoying but I can live with it. The next messages, marked with a P produce the following error when opened- Press any key to see message: e, and can't access the PGP keyring ...so then I go ahead and press a key, and the message source is displayed. Yes, it does sound like a configuration problem, but can someone tell me why about 50% of the debian-user-digests are marked M and the rest are P and sometimes S? I can't see any pattern, I would expect them to be all one or the other. Thanks in advance -Shane D. McAndrew -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .