Re: Sid - grubpc-bin isc-dhcp-client bugs
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 06:41:08PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2014-07-09 08:59 +0200, Tom H wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Stephen Allen > > wrote: > >> > >> For some time these bugs have existed in SID: > >> > >> critical bugs of grub-pc-bin (2.00-22 → 2.02~beta2-10) > >> #741464 - grub-pc-bin: hangs after displaying boot menu > > > > This one was against 2.02~beta2-7 in experimental. > > In unstable, not in experimental. > > > You should let the developer know if you've hit it with 2.02~beta2-10 > > in unstable. > > I'm not sure that this bug shows up anywhere but on my old laptop. > So far I have not found any other sign of it on the Web. Hm that's strange - wonder where apt-list-bugs is getting it? Just for giggles I went ahead and 'unheld' it, installed it and no problem rebooting. Maybe I have a corrupted apt-listbugs db? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140709194131.GA17158@Jessie
Sid - grubpc-bin isc-dhcp-client bugs
For some time these bugs have existed in SID: critical bugs of grub-pc-bin (2.00-22 → 2.02~beta2-10) #741464 - grub-pc-bin: hangs after displaying boot menu grave bugs of isc-dhcp-client (4.2.4-7 → 4.3.0+dfsg-1) #749410 - isc-dhcp-client: shutdown/reboot hangs after K03rsyslog Any idea when these are to be fixed - it's been at least a couple of months. Since I'm running SID I don't think it's out of place to ask ... Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140709010744.GA10901@Jessie
Re: unable to upgrade kernel
On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 09:25:51 -0400 (EDT), François Patte wrote: > > I don't understand the following: > > # apt-get install linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 > linux-headers-3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 > > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64 : Breaks: initramfs-tools (< 0.110~) > but 0.109.1 is to be installed > Breaks: initramfs-tools:i386 (< 0.110~) > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > > What exactly is the problem about initramfs: > > # apt-cache show initramfs-tools > > Package: initramfs-tools > Version: 0.109.1 The problem is that the kernel you want to install requires a newer version of initramfs-tools than the one you currently have installed, but apt-get cannot upgrade to a newer version of initramfs-tools. Since you are trying to install a 3.14 kernel from backports, I assume that you are running wheezy. You need to install the initramfs-tools package from wheezy-backports too, version 0.115~bpo70+1, I think. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2017728434.444101.1404481367368.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [SOLVED] debconf bricked -- undefined variable $ARGV[0] and similar issues
On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 06:12:07 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: > > I found version 5.20.0-1 in experimental, and installed it. > Problem solved. Well, version 5.20.0-1 did solve the problem, as far as eliminating the program exception is concerned. But it also broke packages such as libhtml-parser-perl, liblocale-gettext-perl, etc., which now have unmet dependencies. No newer versions of these packages are available. Therefore, I downgraded perl, perl-base, and perl-modules to version 5.18.2-4, and put them on hold for now. (Thank God for http://snapshots.debian.org !) "apt-get check" now finds no errors, and I can once again upgrade my system, except for the three packages that I put on hold and packages which depend on them. I intend to submit a bug report for this problem. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/719685794.414692.1404265159296.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
[SOLVED] debconf bricked -- undefined variable $ARGV[0] and similar issues
On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 12:40:38 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: > > I tried an "apt-get dist-upgrade" of my jessie system yesterday, with bad > results. It seems that debconf is bricked. Currently, there are three > packages > that are unpacked but not configured: tzdata, locales, and debconf. (There > were > originally two: tzdata and locales. I tried reinstalling debconf in an > attempt > to fix the problem, but that only bricked debconf too. So now there are > three. > Here's what I get when I attempt to configure debconf. I get similar errors > if > I attempt to configure either of the other two packages. > > - > > root@smp6:~# dpkg --configure debconf > Setting up debconf (1.5.53) ... > Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in string eq at > /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 17. > Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in pattern match (m//) at > /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 24. > Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in concatenation (.) or string at > /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 60. > Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in pattern match (m//) at > /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 61. > Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in pattern match (m//) at > /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 62. > Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in pattern match (m//) at > /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 72. > Use of uninitialized value $r in at > /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm line 72. > readline() on unopened filehandle at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm > line 72. > dpkg: error processing package debconf (--configure): > subprocess installed post-installation script was killed by signal > (Segmentation fault) > Errors were encountered while processing: > debconf > root@smp6:~# > > - > > How did this happen, what can I do to fix it, and how do I make sure that it > doesn't > happen again? These errors are preventing the rest of the upgrade from going > through. > I can't go forward, and I can't back out. Fortunately, the system still runs > (and > boots). The error messages above show up on the user's console (a remote ssh session). An additional symptom is this message on the system console (the SCLP line-mode console for Linux running in an LPAR, the 3215 virtual console for Linux running in a virtual machine under z/VM): - User process fault: interruption code 0x4003B in libperl.so.5.18.2[3fffcfff000+1d] failing address: 0 - I checked, and libperl.so.5.18.2 belongs to package perl-base on the s390x architecture. The package version currently installed was 5.18.2-4+b1. According to Debian's web site, s390x is the *only* architecture running this version in testing. All others are at 5.18.2-4. I found version 5.20.0-1 in experimental, and installed it. Problem solved. If you have this problem, you can't fix it the usual way (apt-get install), because apt-get will first run "dpkg --configure -a" if there are any unconfigured packages on the system, which there are, and it will fail. This causes apt-get install to fail. You have to download the packages somehow (apt-get download, wget, ftp, etc.) then install them manually with dpkg. You will need three packages, probably: perl, perl-base, and perl-modules. Install perl-base first, then perl-modules (you will probably need to use the --force-depends option on perl-modules), then finally perl. Don't install version 5.18.2-4+b1 of perl* on your system! -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1576907570.401581.1404209527054.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Synaptic messed up
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 09:48:30PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 21:40:32 +0100 > Tom Furie wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > > On 06/28/2014 11:19 AM, Tom Furie wrote: > > > > > >Are you sure the apt command is available in Wheezy? > > > > > Yes it is as I have already used it. > > > > What package is it in? I can't find it. > > "apt" version 1.0 introduced the command "apt". Thanks, Darac! My bad - I should have checked that before adding to the noise. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140629220043.GB16281@Jessie
Re: Synaptic messed up
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 04:19:08PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 07:42:33AM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > Well then, you probably have gvim installed. Anyway editing the sources > > list is easy. On your command line simply enter 'apt edit-sources' and > > your default editor should pop up with your sources list already > > entered. > > Are you sure the apt command is available in Wheezy? No, Tom am not - I'm on Jessie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140629215138.GA16281@Jessie
Re: Synaptic messed up
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 07:57:03PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > On 06/27/2014 03:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >That needs sorting! > > > >I should have asked: What GUI/DE (Graphical User Interface/Desktop > >Environment) are you using? (So I know what editors you are likely to have. > >Yes, this can be done with Vi/Vim, but doesn't need to be.) You need to edit > >that! I don't wonder that Synaptic is a little confused! The beginnings of > >all the lines are all run together. It is also all over the shop. > > > >Dealing with it can be quite easy. Just let us know the answer to the above > >question. > > > >Lisi > > > > > I use Gnome 3. This is a new problem since I have used Debian for about 18 > months and have never had this problem. Well then, you probably have gvim installed. Anyway editing the sources list is easy. On your command line simply enter 'apt edit-sources' and your default editor should pop up with your sources list already entered. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140628114233.GA18736@Jessie
Re: debconf bricked -- undefined variable $ARGV[0] and similar issues
On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 13:55:37 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote: > > You might have better luck with "dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive > -pcritical debconf". Thanks for the suggestion, but it did not work. Here's what I got: - root@smp6:~# dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive -pcritical debconf /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure Segmentation fault root@smp6:~# - dpkg-reconfigure does not see the package as having "installed" status, since it has been unpacked, but not yet configured; therefore it cannot be reconfigured because it hasn't been configured in the first place. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1204891267.193700.1402864922069.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
debconf bricked -- undefined variable $ARGV[0] and similar issues
I tried an "apt-get dist-upgrade" of my jessie system yesterday, with bad results. It seems that debconf is bricked. Currently, there are three packages that are unpacked but not configured: tzdata, locales, and debconf. (There were originally two: tzdata and locales. I tried reinstalling debconf in an attempt to fix the problem, but that only bricked debconf too. So now there are three. Here's what I get when I attempt to configure debconf. I get similar errors if I attempt to configure either of the other two packages. - root@smp6:~# dpkg --configure debconf Setting up debconf (1.5.53) ... Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in string eq at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 17. Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 24. Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 60. Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 61. Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 62. Use of uninitialized value $ARGV[0] in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 72. Use of uninitialized value $r in at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm line 72. readline() on unopened filehandle at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm line 72. dpkg: error processing package debconf (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script was killed by signal (Segmentation fault) Errors were encountered while processing: debconf root@smp6:~# - How did this happen, what can I do to fix it, and how do I make sure that it doesn't happen again? These errors are preventing the rest of the upgrade from going through. I can't go forward, and I can't back out. Fortunately, the system still runs (and boots). -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2139103177.192469.1402850438863.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Sound configuration failure in debian amd64...
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 23:34:46 -0400 (EDT), Tapas Das wrote: > > Hello > this isTapas Das. > I am a debian user for the last three yearsfirst it was 32-bit > debian squeeze 6.0.0... > and now using amd64 version on P8H61-MLX motherboard (ASUS) with intel > core i3 processor. > > The sound could not be configuredit was not configured just after > installation.nor could be done by installing various libraries and > development packages available at the repositories. I am trying these > things for several months, but no good. > > The output generated by 'hwinfo' as superuser is as follows : > > root@debian-1:/home/tapas# hwinfo --sound > 14: PCI 1b.0: 0403 Audio device > [Created at pci.318] > UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_1c20 > Unique ID: u1Nb.E2yA1ceTa70 > SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0 > SysFS BusID: :00:1b.0 > Hardware Class: sound > Model: "Intel Audio device" > Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation" > Device: pci 0x1c20 > SubVendor: pci 0x1043 "ASUSTeK Computer Inc." > SubDevice: pci 0x8445 > Revision: 0x05 > Driver: "HDA Intel" > Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel" > Memory Range: 0xfe40-0xfe403fff (rw,non-prefetchable) > IRQ: 22 (781 events) > Module Alias: "pci:v8086d1C20sv1043sd8445bc04sc03i00" > Driver Info #0: > Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active > Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel" > Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown > root@debian-1:/home/tapas# > > Please suggest the way out. > regards > TAPAS DAS What release of Debian are you running on your amd64 machine? wheezy? jessie? I am not using the same sound chip that you are, but I am using the same driver: snd_hda_intel. The wheezy kernel's drivers were not new enough to recognize my sound chip, and I couldn't get sound to work on my machine under wheezy either. But I found a work-around for the problem. Create (as root) a file under /etc/modprobe.d. The file name can be anything you like, but it must have an extension of ".conf". I called mine /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf In this file, add the following line: options snd_hda_intel model=auto Save the file and exit the editor. Now shutdown and reboot. This worked for me. I don't know if it will work for you or not. Since then, I've upgraded my system to jessie, and the newer kernels on up-to-date jessie systems have an snd_hda_intel driver that is new enough to recognize my hardware. I no longer need to use the above option. But it was necessary to use the above option when I was running wheezy. Let me know if this works for you. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2146996647.137311.1402497040595.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Package system totaly a complete mess
On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 09:57:39PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Thierry de Coulon: > > > > I've lived for years using synaptic and I am no so used to aptitude - and I > > don't want to make mistakes... > > In addition to the good advice regarding automatically installed > packages that has already been given I have one question: why do you > want to use aptitude? I used aptitude for a few years but switched back > to apt-get after the Release Notes of a release recommended to use > apt-get for distribution upgrades, not aptitude. I have a lot less > trouble now. Actually 'apt-get' is recommended for major upgrades as in distro upgrades, but for day to day package mgmt, aptitude is still the recommended tool. FWIW I use both, aptitude has more options. Never used ncurses aptitude though, can't stand it. For someone just starting out with aptitude, I'd recommend they install the aptitude-doc package relevant to their language. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140608150328.GB7599@Jessie
Re: Jessie PowerPC installer doesn't see USB keyboard on PowerPC Mac machines
On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 12:14:56AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 15:04 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Hmmm... > > > > I originally reported this back in November. > > > > After a while, it went away for me. Downloading the latest (about January > > time-frame) "netinst" image worked fine -- both Jessie and Wheezy. I > > haven't tried it recently, though. > > > > Possibly a regression? > > > > Rick > > > > PS: Jessie on a powerpc64 (Apple MacPro dual G5) crashes randomly upon > > attempting to reboot. > > Anybody else noticing this? > > "Mailing Lists > The Debian PowerPC mailing list is the proper place for questions, > suggestions for improvements, or just for chat concerning PowerPC > systems running Debian. The debian-user list is also available for > general Debian questions which are not specific to PowerPC. Ralf - Rick has been using Debian email lists longer than you and he knows about the PowerPC lists. There is probably a valid reason why he's using the general Debian-Users list, and no it's not off topic here - It's about Debian and he's a user! You and your off-topic posts shouldn't be pointing fingers at people! Use some common sense! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140608144624.GA7599@Jessie
Re: repeatable dpkg-buildpackage
On Tue, 27 May 2014 15:19:30 -0400 (EDT), Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > On Tue, May 27 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> "Note that when building a headers package you must run the entire >> make-kpkg command under fakeroot: you can't use the --rootcmd fakeroot >> option in this case." - >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/10/msg2.html > > Is that accurate? > --8<---cut here---start->8--- > % cd /usr/local/src/kernel/linus-tree > % git pull > % make-kpkg clean > % make-kpkg -j6 --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot\ > --revision=$(date +%Y.%m.%d) \ > --append-to-version '-anzu' kernel_headers > This is kernel package version 13.013. > ... > dpkg-deb: building package `linux-headers-3.15.0-rc7-anzu' in > `../linux-headers-3.15.0-rc7-anzu_2014.05.27_amd64.deb'. > --8<---cut here---end--->8--- The above quote that Ralf referred to is mine. I found that to be the case by trial-and-error experimentation with the version of kernel-package that was current at the time, which I believe was 12.036. I found that make-kpkg ... --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image kernel_headers failed during the attempted creation of the headers package, but fakeroot make-kpkg ... kernel_image kernel_headers worked. I have not tried the above scenario with the new version of kernel-package yet. Both methods work fine for building the kernel image package, but only the second one works for building a headers package. Note that I was referring specifically to make-kpkg and not dpkg-buildpackage in general. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1094300358.1485663.1401541782265.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 09:13:58PM +0200, Wim Bertels wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 15:22 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Mi, 28 mai 14, 21:57:32, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:36 PM, The Wanderer > > > wrote: > > > > Stephen Allen said that Shotwell can do both, and Joe Zien said that > > > > Gwenview can as well. You might look at one of those. > > Gwenview only works for for pictures. > Shotwell imports movies, but doenst play them in a slideshow Shotwell plays my movies - are they in a funky format? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140529195535.GA10385@Jessie
Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:35:05AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 05/24/2014 09:33 AM, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:37:35PM +0200, Wim Bertels wrote: > > > >> Hallo, > >> > >> does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a > >> presentation > >> (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that) > >> > >> eg ideally as simple as: > >> $ programX -r media/ > >> would show them in a random order > >> > >> where /media > >> has a tree subdir structure containing movies and pictures > > > > Most of the picture viewers installed with a desktop environment will > > do this shotwell viewer, image viewr, ristretto, gthumb. > > Most such image-viewing programs do seem to support a timed-progression > "slideshow" mode, yes. > > None of the ones I've looked at support playing a video as a "slide" of > the slideshow, though - and the original question asked for a way to > display "pictures and movies" in that style. > > Do any of the ones you cited support mixing playback of videos in > between display of the images in such a slideshow? ---end quoted text--- Shotwell image viewer does - don't know about the others and don't have time to try right now. Surely the OP can spend some time and find out. ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140526140610.GA6446@Jessie
Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:37:35PM +0200, Wim Bertels wrote: > Hallo, > > does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a > presentation > (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that) > > eg ideally as simple as: > $ programX -r media/ > would show them in a random order > > where /media > has a tree subdir structure containing movies and pictures Most of the picture viewers installed with a desktop environment will do this shotwell viewer, image viewr, ristretto, gthumb. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524133350.GA22104@Jessie
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:12:58PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 > Stephen Allen wrote: > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly > > > terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > > > so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be > > > available in xfce, is it like a layer on the top of gnome 3. are > > > all gnome utilities will be available as well? like system monitor > > > etc. > > > > > ---end quoted text--- > > > > I'd stay away from Xfce4 it hasn't had much activity from the > > developer for *some* time. > > > > I mentioned LXDE, but shutdown and reboot from menus haven't worked > since November (sid), as there seems to be a systemd incompatibility. I > got fed up calling up a terminal and entering a password to shutdown my > single-user workstation after a couple of months, and am on Xfce at the > moment. > ---end quoted text--- If I remember correctly LXDE is going through a transition to Qt. Maybe the reason why? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140521212541.GA13343@Jessie
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal > window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in > xfce, is it like a layer on the top of gnome 3. are all gnome utilities > will be available as well? like system monitor etc. > ---end quoted text--- I'd stay away from Xfce4 it hasn't had much activity from the developer for *some* time. However Cinnamon is a good alternative as it's actively maintained and uses the less buggy GTK3. MATE afaik is built with the GTK2 stuff that is quite buggy. Or with Gnome-Shell there is fallback and other modes that will probably give you the familiar interface. That being said maybe give Gnome-Shell some time - I disliked it at first, but after a month came around and can appreciate it. There are a plethora of gnome-shell extensions also that can help one customize the shell to look like the traditional desktop. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140521095217.GA25012@Jessie
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 09:17:46PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: Martin Vegter > > Sent: 05/18/14 01:58 AM > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: systemd situation in Jesssie > > > > Hello, > > > > I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a > > regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will > > uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my > > servers unbootable) ? > > Do you find Jessie to be stable? > > For the first time ever, I started running Jessie on my host computer, not as > a server. And just last week of some upgrades, Gnome3 broke in many places. > Do you have the same problem? Or you are not using Gnome3? Yes, running Gnome-Shell here on Jessie, Systemd I've had no problems. What specifically broke, gdm3? Maybe use ligtdm for the time being ... that's what I did. I find that by reading this list and especially debian-dev I find out about problems *usually* proactively. However, part of using Testing/Unstable to is to find these bugs for the developing team and file *useful* bug reports. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140518124845.GC25175@Jessie
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:37:38PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On 05/17/2014 02:57 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > >On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: > > > >>Hello, > >> > >>I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. > >>At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, > >>or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? > > > >Depending on your needs, installing systemd might be mandatory in > >unstable already (e.g. gdm3 indirectly depends on it), but you do _not_ > >have to install systemd-sysv and thus make it the default init system. > > > >>I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a > >>regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will > >>uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my > >>servers unbootable) ? > > > >Why would installing systemd remove half of your system, and why do you > >expect that your servers will not boot with systemd as init? > > systemd has been on my Jessie install for some time. I've noted no > difference. Ric > Same here - The only difference I noticed, was that suspend starting working properly on my X300 laptop, so count me in as a happy systemd user. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140518124457.GB25175@Jessie
Re: Tails
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 02:33:21AM -0700, Weaver wrote: > > On Sun, May 18, 2014 2:05 am, Francesco Ariis wrote: > > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:31PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote: > >> Lighten up, lad and stop taking all things literally. > >> > > > > > > > Back OT, someone please tell to the investigative journalist that > > using Tails or any other OS on a compromised machine is a risky choice. > > I am sure I am preaching to the choir here, but I found people who don't > > otherwise take interest in security may think that a bootable USB will > > magically shield them from, say, a hardware key-logger. > > > It's only one step in a short introduction to base level security. > I have no intention of going into the rest of it on-list. > Other than the fact it's not relevant to the list, at least half the > replies are a waste of time reading and a sad statement on the mentalities > of those making them. > > I have always found the community to be a source of supportive assistance. > Other than obvious exceptions, that appears to belong to another time and > in other company. > Cheers! It used to be, alas it's not much of that anymore - many of the newer folk are to blame unfortunately. Sorry that you were given the gears by some idiots - your OP didn't creep me out in the slightest, and Kudo's to you in helping out the young lady pursue her career safely. These are unsafe times for "investigative" journalists around the world. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140518123854.GA25175@Jessie
Re: [SOLVED] Text files treated like html in apache 2.4
On Tue, 13 May 2014 19:36:36 -0400 (EDT), David Guntner wrote: > > That sounds like yet another really good sound reason for not using > Internet Exploder, if that's really the case. Any browser shouldn't be > determining the type of file based on the end-of-line character set. > > Is your Apache server correctly setting the MIME type for a file based > based on the file extension (.html, .txt, etc.) like it should be? > Because *that* is what's supposed to tell a web browser how to interpret > and handle the contents of the file it gets sent from the server As I am finding out, Apache 2.4, as packaged and configured by default in Debian, has only a "bare bones" configuration, with lots of commonly-used stuff missing. See my other recent post about getting Apache to display directories. It may be that as a side effect of fixing that problem, I fixed this one too. But in any event, the Windows-style text file needed to be converted to Linux format anyway. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1689953719.1245196.1400034427570.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
[SOLVED] Can't get Apache to display a directory
On Mon, 12 May 2014 20:16:39 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: > ... > One difference that I have not been able to figure out is how to allow access > to a directory. I'm not talking about allowing access to the files in the > directory, I'm talking about access to the directory itself. > ... > How do I get this to work? Well, I finally solved this one, but it was by no means simple. In summary, here is what I had to do: In /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, I added the following line at the end of the file: Alias /icons /usr/share/apache2/icons In /etc/apache2/mods-enabled, I added the following symlinks: ln -s ../mods-available/alias.load alias.load ln -s ../mods-available/autoindex.conf autoindex.conf ln -s ../mods-available/autoindex.load autoindex.load ln -s ../mods-available/mime.conf mime.conf ln -s ../mods-available/mime.load mime.load Then, I reloaded the server configuration with /etc/init.d/apache2 reload and refreshed the browser cache with F5. Apache now displays directories! BTW, there is an apache2-doc package, which contains the upstream documentation. But installation of the package will fail unless you already have alias.load in mods-enabled and the server has been reloaded. Thanks to all who responded. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/712157942.1245048.1400033768530.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: One of those threads, old stuff: was Confusion
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:27:45AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > >Joel Rees wrote: > > > >>Hey can we start one of those those threads? I think the > >>teletype/paper tape terminal we used in high school to interface with > >>the IMSAI box we built. (Much gratitude to a teacher who used a lot of > >>his own money to make that possible for us.) So you've got me beat by > >>about ten years. But, yeah, Univac 1100 with punched card readers and > >>less main memory than my M6800 prototyping board, my first year in the > >>community college's EDP courses. IBM System 34 at my summer job. > I had my own personal Unisys 5000/90. Great to see tar actually used on real > streaming tape drives. Since I leased a commercial building, I could supply > it with 220V at 60 amps, it required to run it. > http://www.porterdavis.org/computing/sperry.html > Great pics, Ric! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140514005319.GA26692@Jessie
[SOLVED] Text files treated like html in apache 2.4
On Mon, 12 May 2014 20:28:24 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: > ... > But with Apache 2.4, it treats the text file like html and reformats > everything, concatenating lines, eliminating blank lines, etc. How do > I get it to treat plain text like plain text again? Well, the joke is on me. The text file I was trying to view was a Windows-style text file, with each line (except the last) ending in a combination. But it was being served up by Apache running on Linux. Linux-style text files have each line (except the last) end with only a simple . This apparently confused Microsoft Internet Explorer and it did not recognize it as a plain text file. The solution was simple enough: sed -e 's/^V^M$//' file.txt >newfile.txt rm file.txt mv newfile.txt file.txt Where "^V^M", of course, represents Ctrl+V and Ctrl+M in sequence, typed at a bash prompt. (^V is readline's way of escaping a ^M.) Note that the $ causes a carriage return to be deleted only if it is the last character of the line. Embedded carriage returns, if any, are not deleted. Doing this, plus refreshing the browser cache with F5, did the trick. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/913039558.1242278.1400021957589.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Text files treated like html in apache 2.4
My troubles with Apache 2.4 continue. With Apache 2.2, if I entered in the address bar of my browser http://my.server.ip.address/xyz/abc.txt and abc.txt was a plain ASCII text file in /var/www/xyz, then the browser would display it as preformatted text. That is, it would look the same as if I viewed it with less, or vi, or some other text editor/viewer. But with Apache 2.4, it treats the text file like html and reformats everything, concatenating lines, eliminating blank lines, etc. How do I get it to treat plain text like plain text again? -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1408469647.1226034.1399940904410.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Can't get Apache to display a directory
I recently upgraded a back-end server from wheezy to jessie, and with the upgrade, Apache went from 2.2 to 2.4. There are a lot of changes to Apache between 2.2 and 2.4, especially in the area of authentications, authorizations, etc. One difference that I have not been able to figure out is how to allow access to a directory. I'm not talking about allowing access to the files in the directory, I'm talking about access to the directory itself. On apache2, for example, if I had a directory called xyz in /var/www, I could type in the address bar of my browser something like this: http://my.server.ip.address/xyz And it would show me a list of files in the xyz directory. I could then click on the filename of one of the files in the directory and see that file. But with the new apache server, I get a "404 - not found" error. I have looked at the apache documentation, but cannot figure out how to accomplish what I want. How do I get this to work? Basically, I want a configuration that allows all users to view all documents and all directories under /var/www/html. I don't want to have to define userids or passwords. No authentication of users will be done. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1708902509.1225868.1399940199145.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Confusion
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 02:18:49PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > I think we're doing a disservice to the OP by merely replying to a post with > a subject line like: "Confusion". Sorry, that is not a proper subject line > for a post to a tech list. Someone else started a thread with a proper > subject line which seems to have gone ignored. Sadly no one else gets > educated via a google search. Not to mention that so far there has been > little actual hardware info come forth. Yet, this post gets replied to again > and again. I despise posts in online forums with subject lines like "Help > me!" and so on. Please not here. :/ Ric > +1 FWIW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140508183948.GB3400@Jessie
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 09:00:46PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > On 07/05/14 08:32 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > >There was a debate in Toronto this past Friday with the past director of > >NSA/CIA, Glen Greenwald (and 2 other people whose names I just can't > >remember right now) - When Glen mentioned that the NSA didn't know how > >much and how Snowden had taken, the former director didn't offer a rebuttal. > >I'm sure he would have jumped on that if it was wrong. I've heard from other > >reliable sources that they have no idea as well. > > > > > > > Journalist Glenn Greenwald and open-internet activist Alexis Ohanian go head > up against American civil liberties lawyer Allan Dershowitz and former NSA > and CIA chief Michael Hayden in a Munk Debate over the surveillance state. > > http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/munk-debate-on-surveillance-glenn-greenwald-michael-hayden-trade-barbs-1.2612746 > Yes, thanks for providing the names. The entire debate is/was available online as well. https://www.munkdebates.com/state-surveillance-video I enjoyed it, although thought Glen's partner, Alexis was rather lightweight. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140508182122.GA3400@Jessie
Re: Thinkpad Backlight Trouble in X in Testing
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 11:32:58AM +0100, Daniel Moerner wrote: > Hi, > > A quick follow-up on this: It's a general problem with ACPI triggers, > I think. Suspend on lid close is also no longer working. Can't believe > I didn't think to check this before emailing out - sorry. > Both work here on my X300 running testing. I know after getting systemd working my suspend started working reliably, however fn+brightness keys works. I'm on Gnome-Shell if that makes a difference. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140508004239.GC12696@Jessie
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 09:57:40PM -0400, Doug wrote: > > On 05/06/2014 09:36 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: > >On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 03:57:27PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: > >> > >>>- Original Message - > >>>From: A Debian User > >>>Sent: 05/06/14 09:44 AM > >>>To: Theodore Alcapotaxis, debian-user@lists.debian.org > >>>Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? > >>> > >>>Unintentional data leakage? Script kiddies, marketers, spammers, ad > >>>networks? > >>With NSA, nothing is unintentional. > >You give them more credit then deserved. They gather so much data they > >can't analyze it all at this point in time - they still don't know how > >much data Snowden took or how. LMAO > > > > > > > They don't try to analyze it all. They look for keywords--like bomb, > shoot, jihad, and who knows what others. Then they just analyze > texts that include them (emails, social sites like Facebook, etc., > phone calls--I wonder if they can crack fax traffic?--probably!) > > (I guarantee this email will be analyzed!) They have too much to do even that - you gotta keep up to date on recent news my friend. That's the problem with mass surveillance of the world, too much data to analyze in real time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140508003724.GB12696@Jessie
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 11:09:28PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/6/2014 10:04 PM, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: > >>- Original Message - > >>From: Stephen Allen > >>Sent: 05/07/14 09:36 AM > >>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > >>Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? > >> > >>You give them more credit then deserved. They gather so much data they > >>can't analyze it all at this point in time - they still don't know how > >>much data Snowden took or how. LMAO > > > >Yes, they do know. It's just that mere mortals like us, especially > >foreigners, are not privy to USA's secret intelligence. > > > > > > Theordore, I have good news and bad news for you. > > The good news is you're not paranoid. > > The bad news is the entire world really IS after you! > > Now this has nothing to do with Debian. I echo the requests - please take > it off list. > > And BTW - no, the NSA does NOT yet know what all Snowden took. And their HQ > are less than 10 miles from me. In fact, I'll be right over that way > Thursday. There was a debate in Toronto this past Friday with the past director of NSA/CIA, Glen Greenwald (and 2 other people whose names I just can't remember right now) - When Glen mentioned that the NSA didn't know how much and how Snowden had taken, the former director didn't offer a rebuttal. I'm sure he would have jumped on that if it was wrong. I've heard from other reliable sources that they have no idea as well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140508003259.GA12696@Jessie
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 03:57:27PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: A Debian User > > Sent: 05/06/14 09:44 AM > > To: Theodore Alcapotaxis, debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? > > > > Unintentional data leakage? Script kiddies, marketers, spammers, ad > > networks? > > With NSA, nothing is unintentional. You give them more credit then deserved. They gather so much data they can't analyze it all at this point in time - they still don't know how much data Snowden took or how. LMAO -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140507013632.GB15118@Jessie
Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments [somewhat off topic]
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 09:20:29PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 06 May 2014 at 07:54:58 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > This post is being composed well after a great tree of responses to OP > > have accumulated. In these, as well as in other posts about DE in > > Debian I have seen mentioned the JWM environment. It is interesting to > > me, but I am aware that I make mistakes much more often than the > > average Debian user. I want a new "task-jwm-desktop" to be written. It > > The second Q.: > >https://joeyh.name/code/tasksel/faq/ > > > would do for Jwm the same sort of thing that task-xfce-desktop does > > for Xfce. It should not be difficult in my totally naive view of what > > is involved ;-). It needs to be done by someone who already knows (and > > likes) Jwm, not by a person like me, who is merely curious about it, > > and not even a novice developer/maintainer. > > You never know. :) > > > And while I'm making suggestions, I think every task-XXX-desktop > > should have a matching task-XXX-desktop-remove for use by people who > > discover that they have made, in their opinion, a mistake. Or some > > advice in the wiki on how to cleanly remove a "task". Knowing what is > > involved in backing out is helpful in deciding whether or not to try > > something. Who knows, I might even give Gnome3 a try. > > The Debian Fairy has waved her magic wand: > >tasksel remove > > Followed by > >apt-get --purge autoremove Yup even Synaptic could be used if one wants a GUI package manager. ;-D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140507013005.GA15118@Jessie
Re: How to remove Google from the "Start screen"?
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 08:21:46AM +0800, A Debian User wrote: > First of all, sorry for using the term "Start screen" :P > > But when you do a search for applications in a GNOME 3 desktop, two buttons > appear below the screen: "Wikipedia" and "Google". > > Apparently, clicking on either of them will open the browser with a > Wikipedia or Google search using your search terms. > > How do you remove Google and replace it with a search engine of your choice? > > Thanks. Doesn't on my Jessie install with Gnome 3.8.x - You sure you're using Debian and not Ubuntu? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140505142406.GA3457@Jessie
[SOLVED] Debian and Unicode line drawing
On Thu, 01 May 2014 06:26:56 -0400 (EDT), Aleksander Kurczyk wrote: > On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:27:50 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> ... >> the default value for the terminal type string is xterm. >> I have to explicitly change it to putty, even after setting the remote >> character set to UTF-8. >> ... > > I forgot to change the last value... IT WORKS NOW!!! > > http://screeny.olo-web.eu/2014-05-01__12:08:10.png > > Sorry and thank you :-) You're welcome. Also, please double check that you are using the Consolas font. That screen shot above doesn't look like Consolas to me. Consolas is the only font that I've found in Windows which is reasonably complete for UTF-8 characters. Man pages are a good test. See if you are seeing true hyphens at the end of the line instead of box characters. Author's names in man pages are another good test. Even if you are looking at English man pages, author's names, if they come from a non-English-speaking country, often contain "funny" characters, such as accented characters, reverse accented characters, umlauted characters, etc. These often don't display correctly in other fonts. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2020617008.1060760.1398945188919.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
RE: Debian and Unicode line drawing
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:16:30 -0400 (EDT), Aleksander Kurczyk wrote: > > I'm still getting this error. And I haven't received the last message - > outlook.com is bouncing e-mails from the list :-(. CC-ing you due to your stated e-mail problem above. > > According to this: > >https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/04/msg01516.html > > For me that's are the default settings of PuTTY after I set the > "Remote character set" in "Translation" to UTF-8. What release of PuTTY are you using? I'm using PuTTY 0.63, which is the latest release. In this version, the default value for the terminal type string is xterm. At least it is for me. I have to explicitly change it to putty, even after setting the remote character set to UTF-8. Make sure the terminal type string is all lower case. Terminal type strings are case sensitive. They have to match the terminal type definition in ncurses. The putty terminal type definition in ncurses can be found in /usr/share/terminfo/p. You can also try a terminal type string of xterm-utf8. This terminal type definition in ncurses is found in /usr/share/terminfo/x. The latest version of PuTTY can be downloaded here: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty > > And the line drawing in some programs works fine with it but with some > like apt no :-(. Some programs still sends the ppp's and qqq's rows > after the special VT100 escape char. I've tried removing the > "NCURSES_NO_UTF8_ACS=1" var but I'm still getting the same effect. > >http://screeny.olo-web.eu/2014-04-30__11:45:43.png I assume that this is what the output of dpkg-reconfigure locales looks like, when executed as root, on your system. Even on a wheezy system, before upgrading to jessie, this works fine for me. > > According to this: > >https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/04/msg01556.html > > I'm using the testing release. I have just upgraded it after your e-mail. > >sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y distupgrade && \ >sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y autoremove && sudo reboot > > and unfortunately, apt sill outputs ppp's and qqq's :-(. First of all, the proper upgrade procedure for an upgrade from wheezy to jessie goes like this. First, become root. Then, edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and remove any "default-release" specification that may exist. Save the file and exit the editor. Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove any releases defined except wheezy. Then change wheezy to jessie. Then, comment out the jessie-updates site and the security site, since these should not be used with the current testing release. Save file file and exit the editor. Then issue the following series of commands: apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade I do not recommend the use of the -y option. This, of course, assumes that you are starting out with an up-to-date wheezy release to begin with, no packages are on hold, all packages that have been removed but not purged have been purged, no packages are in a funky state, all obsolete packages have been purged, etc. But ... Your use of sudo leads me to believe that you may be using a Debian derivative, such as Ubuntu, rather than native Debian. I cannot give you upgrade advice for anything other than native Debian. That's what I use, and that's what I know. Consult your distribution's documentation for the proper procedure to upgrade from one release to another. > > Do you know which packages has been upgraded at yout server? > Mine is a Parallels Virtuozzo VPS and the Debian image may not contain > some packages. My Debian s390x server has about 375 packages installed, give or take a few, the majority of which were updated in the upgrade from wheezy to jessie. It is not practical for me to list them all here. By the way, thank you for not top-posting. But it would also be helpful if you would try to limit the length of all your lines to less than 80 characters. I have reformatted your message to conform to these guidelines. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/998201136.1057507.1398907670116.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Debian and Unicode line drawing
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 20:50:18 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: > > I am unable to reproduce the problem you are having with dpkg-reconfigure. > Perhaps you would be so good as to give the name of a specific package that > you are trying to reconfigure in which you have the problem. I tried > reconfiguring locales, and the box-drawing characters seemed to be working > just fine. I think I just stumbled across this bug. I did an upgrade from wheezy to jessie today on one of my servers. Early on in the upgrade, I got the following full-screen panel: - Package configuration lu Configuring libc6:s390x tk x Running services and programs that are using NSS need to be restarted,x x otherwise they might not be able to do lookup or authentication any more x x (for services such as ssh, this can affect your ability to login).x x Please review the following space-separated list of init.d scripts forx x services to be restarted now, and correct it if needed. x x x x Note: restarting sshd/telnetd should not affect any existing x x connections. x x x x Services to restart for GNU libc library upgrade: x x x x vsftpd exim4 cron atd x x x x x x x mqqqj - (34-line screen). But then, later on in the upgrade, I got another full-screen panel that looked like this: - Package configuration ┌─┤ Configuring libssl1.0.0:s390x ├─┐ │ This release of OpenSSL fixes some security issues. Services will not │ │ use these fixes until they are restarted. Please note that restarting │ │ the SSH server (sshd) should not affect any existing connections. │ │ │ │ Please check the list of detected services that need to be restarted and │ │ correct it, if needed. The services names must be identical to the│ │ initialization script names in /etc/init.d and separated by spaces. No│ │ services will be restarted if the list is empty. │ │ │ │ Any service that later fails unexpectedly after this upgrade should be│ │ restarted. It is recommended to reboot this host to avoid any │ │ SSL-related trouble. │ │ │ │ Services to restart to make them use the new libraries: │ │ │ │ vsftpd ssh exim4_ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └───┘ - So, either this bug is intermittent (i.e. sometimes it manifests itself, and sometimes it doesn't), or else the bug was fixed between the first panel and the second panel by the update of one the packages. It will be interesting to see if this bug ever shows up again on a server running jessie (or later). Can you reproduce the problem on demand? If so, is the host running jessie, or an earlier release? Can you reproduce the problem on a jessie system? -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/813925159.1040945.1398828194538.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Debian and Unicode line drawing
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:14:24 -0400 (EDT), Aleksander Kurczyk wrote: > > Hello, > > I am using PuTTY, Maybe it's not a new software but it works properly > with other distributions (CentOS/Fedora etc.) that uses Unicode by > default. > > I noticed that every frame in default Debian configuration in PuTTY > is displayed as the rows of p and qq instead of > those frame ASCII characters. PuTTY and every of my Debian > installation is set to use Unicode UTF-8 encoded characters so ncurses > etc. should use those characters to display frames instead of this > vt100 escape code and p/qqq after it. > PuTTY and KiTTY is expecting this and not those vt100 compatible > characters. PuTTY/KiTTY can use those vt100 charasters without any > problems but not in the Unicode mode. In this mode it expects > normal UTF-8 characters. > > I can make ncurses applications use Unicode characters with the > variable "export NCURSES_NO_UTF8_ACS=1" set in my .bashrc. > But not all applications uses ncurses. For example dpkg-reconfigure > still uses those vt100 escape code and ppp/q > characters. How can i make it Unicode compatible? I recently encountered this problem myself, and I did some more research. Here's another solution. Try it and see if it works any better for you. In Putty configuration, make the following changes: Window -> Translation -> Remote character set : UTF-8 Window -> Translation -> Handling of line-drawing characters: Use Unicode line-drawing code points Connection -> Data -> Terminal type string : putty With these settings, you don't need the environment variable NCURSES_NO_UTF8_ACS=1 set. (By the way, /etc/profile.d/local.sh is a better place to put this, if you're going to use it. This makes a system-wide change. But with the PuTTY settings above, you don't need it. I am unable to reproduce the problem you are having with dpkg-reconfigure. Perhaps you would be so good as to give the name of a specific package that you are trying to reconfigure in which you have the problem. I tried reconfiguring locales, and the box-drawing characters seemed to be working just fine. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1775270931.1019967.1398732618731.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: install cinnamon
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 01:40:11PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Stephen Allen: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 02:58:28PM +0100, Brian wrote: > >> On Tue 22 Apr 2014 at 11:48:11 +0100, Brian wrote: > >> > >>> It would be interesting to know whether this is successful for you. > >> > >> On the segfault site Martins provides cinnamon-build.tar.gz. If you > >> trust the packages it contains (installing random debs found on the web > >> isn't recommended) Cinnamon might run for you on Wheezy after you get > >> network-manager-gnome. > >> > >> > >> > > ---end quoted text--- > > > > Why was Cinnamon removed from the Debian Repos? > > It wasn't. It is just only available in sid at the moment: > https://packages.debian.org/cinnamon Thanks. > > Much rather have it than Mate. No one wanted to package it and/or > > maintain it? Where do these discussions happen? > > Probably either in a bug report or on debian-devel. > > Judging from the state of cinnamon in Debian (package version and > activity in the BTS), it appears that the maintainers need some help to > get Cinnamon into shape before it can be released with Debian. Truly wish I had the skills to help -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140425104058.GA7482@Jessie
Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:18:50 -0400 (EDT), Steve Litt wrote: > > I considered going back to LILO, but it still has no understanding of > filesystems: It's easy to bork and hard to fix. Not as hard as Grub 2 > though. I did switch back from grub2 to lilo, and I'm glad I did. I actually like lilo's file-system-agnostic approach. And these days, with the kernel and initramfs hooks in place, it's much harder to bork it than it used to be. See my lilo web page below for more information: http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm > > Is there a simpler bootloader that works with Linux? I don't want GUI. > I don't want a framebuffer. I don't want a splash screen. And I don't > want to wade through seven files to turn those things off. Basically, > I'd like something like LILO that understands ext4. The closest thing I know to what you describe above is extlinux. It is packaged for Debian by a package of the same name. You might want to check it out. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/686154249.967877.1398389756299.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: install cinnamon
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 02:58:28PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 22 Apr 2014 at 11:48:11 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > It would be interesting to know whether this is successful for you. > > On the segfault site Martins provides cinnamon-build.tar.gz. If you > trust the packages it contains (installing random debs found on the web > isn't recommended) Cinnamon might run for you on Wheezy after you get > network-manager-gnome. > > > ---end quoted text--- Why was Cinnamon removed from the Debian Repos? Much rather have it than Mate. No one wanted to package it and/or maintain it? Where do these discussions happen? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140424102721.GA15071@Jessie
Re: Adobe flash security
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 03:25:08PM +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there > > > Stephen Allen wrote: > > >+1 Not installed. :( > > A manual install, as suggested by Arthur, works. > For i386, download; > http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.350/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz > I renamed /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so to > libflashplayer.so.bak and copied the libflashplayer.so from the tar to > /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ > A bit blunt, but it will have to do for now. ---end quoted text--- Thanks Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140415195915.GB16470@Jessie
Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 02:11:00PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > On 15/04/14 12:59, shawn wilson wrote: > >> That statement was made in the sense that at least the bank could have > >> > issued a statement along the lines of 'you may have heard of the > >> > heartbleed bug, we can assure all of our customers that we are not > >> > affected by this bug and there is no need to panic.' > >> > > > No, I don't want to hear from my bank unless there's a problem. If > > everything is going OK, don't spam me. If its not, by all means, let me > > know. This didn't affect them so don't tell me anything. > > > > They don't need to send an email, or anything intrusive. They just need > to put a big notice on the login page of their internet banking site - > along with (or instead of) all the ads they have for cheap loans or term > deposits or whatever. It would make virtually no difference to the speed > of logging in, and would reassure me that they take security seriously. > > Richard Indeed - that is what the Royal Bank of Canada did (They werent affected). BTW Revenue Canada was hacked by this bug and publicly admitted so. So far only a minimal number of people were affected. They were offline for several days. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140415195534.GA16470@Jessie
Re: Adobe flash security
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 02:36:43PM +0200, Slavko wrote: > Hi, > > Dňa Sun, 13 Apr 2014 10:31:01 + Артур Истомин > napísal: > > > # update-flashplugin-nonfree --status > > Flash Player version installed on this system : 11.2.202.335 > > Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.350 > > > > To update this fucked proprietary software, run: > > # update-flashplugin-nonfree --install > > > > At my testing: > > update-flashplugin-nonfree --status > Flash Player version installed on this system : 11.2.202.346 > Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.350 > > the 11.2.202.350 is not installed by the mentioned --install command ---end quoted text--- +1 Not installed. :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140413130714.GA14414@Jessie
Switching OS
I have been using Ubuntu for several years now but all of a sudden it has begun locking up, sometimes several times a day. Very annoying, especially when it fouls up file names. I have a lot of work to do on my website and this is driving me crazy. Can I download Debian, delete Ubuntu and have Debian accept the Ubuntu files? Sounds simple (I hope). Thank you, Stephen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/534761c5.3090...@sonic.net
Re: How to Switch Between Gnome and KDE
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 09:12:05AM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 20:22:55 -0400 > Stephen Allen wrote: > > I see this mentioned a lot that Gnome-Shell won't run on hardware more > > than a "few" years old. This is patently false. I've run it on a > > laptop more than 7 years old with no issue what-so-ever. Gnome-Shell > > just disables stuff if it isn't supported hardware wise - some of the > > more interesting video effects that is. > > > > The issue isn't so much the hardware but the amount of ram one has on > > the applicable hardware. Even 7 year old hardware often has 1Gb of ram > > or even more. > > > > > > OK, I did investigate it somewhat, and I'm being simplistic here. But > this investigation was begun when I upgraded to Gnome3 and on login I > was presented with a new, empty Gnome 'legacy' desktop after being told > somewhat curtly that my video hardware wasn't good enough for the > wonderful new desktop experience, and that the Gnome developers weren't > interested in 'legacy' hardware. My previous Gnome desktop > configurations had disappeared. > > I call that 'not running well'. I would too. > Yes, I recovered it all, and even got Gnome3 working, but after a few > days I decided I didn't like all the extra keystrokes and steps to do > my usual jobs, and the distinct loss of speed, so I switched to LXDE. > And it is indeed the shell, and not Gnome itself which was the issue, > but that took a few days to get explained properly. I have no idea if > the 'legacy' shell is still being maintained, because at the time it > was made clear that it was only a temporary measure, presumably while > we all bought new video cards. I am still using some of Gnome3 itself > now, just not the desktop shell. To be blunt - a couple of days doesn't give it a fair shot. I too didn't like it at first but stuck with it for a month, I came to like it a lot and appreciate all the thought given to it by the Gnome Developers. It's also bloody fast. Never saw a warning on login ever and I was running it on a 9 year old IBM laptop with 1 Gb of ram. It if can run on a laptop well surely it will run on any legacy desktop of the same era. Personally I don't think most give it a fair shot - just because of the change. But then some people didn't like it when a mouse was introduced to computing -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140409104626.GA10859@Jessie
RE: Problem Installing Debian Testng/Jessie VMware Tools
Here is my original message: I have installed Debian Testing/Jessie on my 64 bit Laptop in VMware Player v- 6.0.1-1379776. vmhgfs failed the build process. The relevant portion of the build log is (complete log is attached): Using 2.6.x kernel buildInstalling VMware Tools. make: Entering directory `/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only' /usr/bin/make -C /lib/modules/3.13-1-amd64/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. \ MODULEBUILDDIR= modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.13-1-amd64' CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/backdoor.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/backdoorGcc64.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/bdhandler.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpName.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLinux.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLite.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/dir.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/dentry.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c: In function 'HgfsOpen': /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:685:27: error: incompatible type for argument 3 of 'HgfsSetUidGid' current_fsuid(), current_fsgid()); ^ In file included from /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0: /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected 'uid_t' but argument is of type 'kuid_t' void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent, ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:685:27: error: incompatible type for argument 4 of 'HgfsSetUidGid' current_fsuid(), current_fsgid()); ^ In file included from /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0: /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected 'gid_t' but argument is of type 'kgid_t' void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent, ^ make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.o] Error 1 make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.o /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c: In function 'HgfsInitSuperInfo': /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:234:15: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'uid_t' from type 'kuid_t' si->uid = current_uid(); ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:240:15: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'gid_t' from type 'kgid_t' si->gid = current_gid(); ^ make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o] Error 1 /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c: In function 'HgfsChangeFileAttributes': /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:680:20: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uid_t' inode->i_uid = si->uid; ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:682:20: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uint32' inode->i_uid = attr->userId; ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:685:20: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'gid_t' inode->i_gid = si->gid; ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:687:20: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'uint32' inode->i_gid = attr->groupId; ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c: In function 'HgfsSetUidGid': /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:1663:21: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uid_t' setUidGid.ia_uid = uid; ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:1671:24: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'gid_t' setUidGid.ia_gid = gid; ^ make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** [_module_/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only] Error 2 make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2 make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.13-1-amd64' make: *** [vmhgfs.ko] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only' I have no idea as to what te problem might be. Any assistance will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -Original Message- From: Jerry Stuckle [mailto:jstuc...@attglobal.net]
Re: no eth0 connection-redux
On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 00:47:18 -0400 (EDT), Chris Bannister wrote: > > TBH, I didn't see any evidence of a broken thread. Mutt shows a broken > thread with an asterisk in the arrow symbol. > > A poster shouldn't have to jump through hoops to make the archives look > good, IMHO. > > IOW, how the archive software handles things, shouldn't influence > posting style. Thread broken in mutt: no Thread broken in the online archives: yes However, I wish now that I hadn't said anything about a broken thread because whether or not the thread is broken has become a distraction to my main point, which is that the OP has yet to provide any useful information with which to diagnose his problem. I'm still waiting. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/188994160.692701.1396869670880.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Problem Installing Debian Testng/Jessie VMware Tools
I have installed Debian Testing/Jessie on my 64 bit Laptop in VMware Player v- 6.0.1-1379776. vmhgfs failed the build process. The relevant portion of the build log is (complete log is attached): Using 2.6.x kernel buildInstalling VMware Tools. make: Entering directory `/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only' /usr/bin/make -C /lib/modules/3.13-1-amd64/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. \ MODULEBUILDDIR= modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.13-1-amd64' CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/backdoor.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/backdoorGcc64.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/bdhandler.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpName.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLinux.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLite.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/dir.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/dentry.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c: In function 'HgfsOpen': /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:685:27: error: incompatible type for argument 3 of 'HgfsSetUidGid' current_fsuid(), current_fsgid()); ^ In file included from /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0: /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected 'uid_t' but argument is of type 'kuid_t' void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent, ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:685:27: error: incompatible type for argument 4 of 'HgfsSetUidGid' current_fsuid(), current_fsgid()); ^ In file included from /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0: /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected 'gid_t' but argument is of type 'kgid_t' void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent, ^ make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.o] Error 1 make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.o /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c: In function 'HgfsInitSuperInfo': /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:234:15: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'uid_t' from type 'kuid_t' si->uid = current_uid(); ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:240:15: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'gid_t' from type 'kgid_t' si->gid = current_gid(); ^ make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o] Error 1 /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c: In function 'HgfsChangeFileAttributes': /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:680:20: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uid_t' inode->i_uid = si->uid; ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:682:20: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uint32' inode->i_uid = attr->userId; ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:685:20: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'gid_t' inode->i_gid = si->gid; ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:687:20: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'uint32' inode->i_gid = attr->groupId; ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c: In function 'HgfsSetUidGid': /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:1663:21: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uid_t' setUidGid.ia_uid = uid; ^ /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:1671:24: error: incompatible types when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'gid_t' setUidGid.ia_gid = gid; ^ make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** [_module_/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only] Error 2 make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2 make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.13-1-amd64' make: *** [vmhgfs.ko] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only' I have no idea as to what te problem might be. Any assistance will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Script started on Fri Apr 4 15:31:30 2014 ]0;computation@inga: ~/Downloads/vmware-tools-distribcomputation@inga:~/Downloads/vmware-tools-distrib$ sudo ./vmware-install.pl [sudo] password for computation: Creating a new VMware Tools installer database using the tar4 format. Installing VMware Tools. In which directory do you want to install the binary files? [/usr/bin] What is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6.d/)? [/etc] What is the directory that contains the init scripts? [/etc/init.d] In which directory do you want to install t
Re: no eth0 connection-redux
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 20:55:12 -0400 (EDT), Tom Furie wrote: > > Thread wasn't broken here. The References: header in Robert's mail > indicates that it was indeed a reply (to his original post on this > thread). Perhaps I need to explain what I mean by "broken thread". The original post was in March. This is April. The Debian mailing list archives don't allow a thread to span months. Thus, a reply to a message from a previous month has the same effect as starting a new thread, as far as the Debian archives are concerned. There were April messages he could have replied to, such as this one: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/04/msg00156.html which would have preserved the April thread in one piece. Yes, you can click on the "In-Reply-To" link and see the message he is replying to. But the "Previous by thread" link at the bottom of the page points to a different thread, which means that the list considers this message to be the start of a new thread, even though it has an "In-Reply-To" header. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/04/ for reference purposes. > > I see that you have an In-Reply-To: header, but no References: header. I > also see that you are using Zimbra, perhaps Zimbra needs to be taught > about References: headers. That would be nice, actually. The e-mail client I use does not allow me to edit headers. Fortunately, the "In-Reply-To" field is sufficient for the mailing list archives to properly connect the new post to the thread. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/603207630.680455.1396793164902.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: How to Switch Between Gnome and KDE
> ray wrote: > Gnome is referred to as a desktop environment, as it is much more than > just a manager of windows, menus etc. KDE is the other heavyweight DE, > there are two medium-weight DEs, LXDE and Xfce4. There is also at least > one fork of an older version of Gnome, as the current Gnome is a bit > heavy on resources and won't run well on hardware more than a few years > old. I see this mentioned a lot that Gnome-Shell won't run on hardware more than a "few" years old. This is patently false. I've run it on a laptop more than 7 years old with no issue what-so-ever. Gnome-Shell just disables stuff if it isn't supported hardware wise - some of the more interesting video effects that is. The issue isn't so much the hardware but the amount of ram one has on the applicable hardware. Even 7 year old hardware often has 1Gb of ram or even more. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140406002255.GA12265@Jessie
Re: no eth0 connection-redux
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 13:26:44 -0400 (EDT), Robert Holtzman wrote: > > For a while it looked like a bad cable as I was able to connect on a > different one from the same router. The connection lasted long enough to > d/l an update. Then I closed the connection. Today none of the cables > from the router allow a connection. The nm-applet swears I'm connected > but trying to ping the router gives "operation not permitted". > > Wireless continues to work. I *think* that removes the router from > suspicion. If I'm wrong please correct me. First of all, you've broken the thread. The thread was broken once already by the March / April forced break at the end of the month. You can't help that. But this time, you've broken it yourself by starting a new thread. Second, you haven't responded to anybody's requests for information. How can we help you if you won't provide any information? Now, let's take this from the top. (1) Please provide the output of /sbin/ifconfig -a (2) Please provide the contents of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1861763807.676628.1396742709270.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Not receiving list mail
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 06:45:59PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 04 Apr 2014 at 12:57:34 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:36:05PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > > > I'm 81yrs, I don't have perfect recall, but in the recent past you went > > > to the trouble of finding an exact reference as to the purpose of the > > > white list and you posted it here, but you apparently did not take the > > > time to read it. Slow down a bit. You'll live longer and give better > > > advice. > > > > Well, I'm a little younger but am retired. :) > > Is there an 'Oldie Badge' to display for some members of this list. It > could in an email header: > > X-oldie-warning: Toothless but still vicious > > or > > X-Debian-oldie: My aptitude will outdo yours I like that one. :-D > Even > > X-oldie-gloat: You're still working? > > or > > X-oldie-plea: Work harder. Support my pension > > > > > What advice are you referring to exactly? You do know that > > > > > > That almost everyone should sign up for whitelist? Maybe you didn't say > > > that exactly but some people seemed to draw that conclusion. > > > > I suggested it as maybe something to consider. > > You did, but then went on to say > > - besides everyone should be on the whitelist if posting to the list > regularly. OK. That had been what I was told some time ago. Just took it at face value without checking. So our 80 year old friend has good memory. > > On the other hand you did help to clear up the question of what the > whitelist is for, even eliciting an 'official' answer. I noticed that ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140405021304.GB32650@Jessie
Re: Not receiving list mail
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:36:05PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I'm 81yrs, I don't have perfect recall, but in the recent past you went > to the trouble of finding an exact reference as to the purpose of the > white list and you posted it here, but you apparently did not take the > time to read it. Slow down a bit. You'll live longer and give better > advice. Well, I'm a little younger but am retired. :) > > What advice are you referring to exactly? You do know that > > That almost everyone should sign up for whitelist? Maybe you didn't say > that exactly but some people seemed to draw that conclusion. I suggested it as maybe something to consider. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140404165734.GA27016@Jessie
Re: Not receiving list mail
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:27:02PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > Read the description at Debian.org. I don't get my ideas about why it > is there from hearsay. I didn't know about it until you mentioned it. > I looked for it today and report what I found. > > > Seriously, you would expect people that don't post regularly to > > subscribe to a whitelist - Dream on. How would they even know it exists? > > I don't have any expectation or knowledge about how it is actually > used. I do think that somebody more central to the Debian community > than I, did have the expectation that is stated on the web site. I > remember when software market gurus believed that open or free > software was a crazy idea that never would be useful. Maybe it is > still not useful for some people, but I don't think that view is held > by many of the people who frequent this list. Part of Debian is an > avowed goal of Changing the World. Straightforward statements of this > can also be found on Debian.org > > IMHO, you are mistaken in your assessment of the internal workings > of Debian, and it colors the advice that you give. > > My paraphrase of what is said was only for the purpose of informing > of what I had found. I hope you and others will find it, read it, > and try to understand where it fits in the Debian scheme of things. I've been here (not always participating) over 12 years, so I think I know how things work somewhat. If you had been paying attention - you would have noticed that it was mentioned that at one time yours truly had been told to use said whitelist by one of "one of those close to the Debian community". Now perhaps they were mistaken, all I'm saying is what I was told. What advice are you referring to exactly? You do know that participication in the Debian community is often controversial at times, and when did I ever comment on the "Internal workings of Debian"? I do lurk on the developers list, but don't believe I've ever commented on the workings internally Even with the amusing at times systemd discourse. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403225721.GB8047@Jessie
Re: Jessie Post-Install
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 03:10:21PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 02 April 2014 19:31:59 Stephen Allen wrote: > > Yes know about the CDs and the DVDs - I'm talking about what > > happened during a net-install using the defaults. Geesus do really > > expect a new user to jump through hoops? You're mad if you do. LOL > > Since you are so unhappy with Debian's proposed default (proposed, not > decided) and think that other list users are mad and only fit to be > laughed at (at not with), why don't you just start up or fork your > own distro and have it exactly how you like? It's for newbies that I'm attempting to advocate for. But, thanks for your sincere thoughts on how I should proceed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403224513.GA8047@Jessie
Re: no eth0 connection
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 13:33:58 -0400 (EDT), Brian wrote: > > On Tue 01 Apr 2014 at 21:24:24 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 05:08:12 -0400 (EDT), Brian wrote: >>> >>> Deleting the file is quicker and less hassle. It is rewritten at the >>> next boot. >> >> That used to be true, but it isn't anymore. The file no longer gets >> re-created during boot for newer Debian systems. I just verified this >> for my jessie system, and I'm pretty sure that wheezy works the same >> way. That is one reason why I recommend editing the file instead of >> deleting it. > > 70-persistent-net.rules is recreated on boot on Wheezy after it is > deleted. The OP is using Wheezy; which is why I recommened deleting it. > > The behaviour on Jessie could be #735563: > >https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=735563 Well, you are right about wheezy. At least on the i386 architecture, the file does get regenerated at the next boot if you erase it. I just tried it on a wheezy system I have. But as for jessie, I don't think that the "bug" you refer to is going to be fixed. This is a design change made by upstream. See https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24115 and http://marc.info/?l=linux-hotplug&m=130469470817499&w=2 as references. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/731729452.631058.1396486375325.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
RE: Debian and Unicode line drawing
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 03:29:47 -0400 (EDT), Aleksander Kurczyk wrote:
>
> ...
> I have tried the dpkg-reconfigure locales and console-setup.
> The second package was not installed so I installed it and
> configured but it is still not working properly with some software.
> Mc, irssi, tmux and other works fine but dpkg-reconfgure displays
> and .
>
> I have also tried other options in PuTTY but it always display
> the and rows.
Please don't top post.
If console-setup was not installed to begin with, it's probably
because you are on an architecture which doesn't need it, such as
s390x. You should de-install it. On the other hand, if your
architecture is i386 or amd64, and console-setup was not installed
to begin with, then something is seriously wrong with your
installation. I'd reinstall if I were you, in that case.
--
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Re: Not receiving list mail
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 02:27:05PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20140402_145921, Stephen Allen wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:54:54AM -0500, Craig L. wrote: > > > I have not received any list mailings since 30 March. I see there are at > > > least > > > two other people reporting the same problem. I doubt my ISP is blocking > > > anything as they don't even seem to be able to prevent their internal > > > communications from being broadcast to normal users. > > > > > > Is there any way to troubleshoot this issue? I created a gmail account and > > > subscribed to the list there, and that is working fine. I sent an email > > > from it > > > to this account, and it came through. I can always stick with gmail if I > > > need > > > to, but I would rather stick with this account if possible. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Craig > > > > > ---end quoted text--- > > > > Wonder if the folks having trouble have added their email to the Debian > > Email Whitelist? https://lists.debian.org/whitelist/ > > This is intended for use by people who don't want to subscribe of a > real debian list e.g. this one because they don't want all this > chatter cluttering up the inbox. But still they want to ask a > question and have it posted without jumping thru hoops. It is not > at all related to people who have subscribed, or believe they have > subscribed, IMHO. That wasn't my understanding when it was recommended to me some time back. Seriously, you would expect people that don't post regularly to subscribe to a whitelist - Dream on. How would they even know it exists? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403002040.GC12049@Jessie
Re: Not receiving list mail
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:08:25PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 02 Apr 2014 at 14:59:21 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > Wonder if the folks having trouble have added their email to the Debian > > Email Whitelist? https://lists.debian.org/whitelist/ > > What does that do for them? Considering that the reason is unknown,(why they aren't getting email) it can't hurt - besides everyone should be on the whitelist if posting to the list regularly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403001811.GB12049@Jessie
Re: Jessie Post-Install
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:33:12PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 02 apr 14, 14:36:53, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > > Surely the PopCon results should determine that, no? > > Not really, Gnome has been the default for a long time, so it will > naturally have a much larger user base because of that. ---end quoted text--- Well, hope you're not on the team making the decision. LOL Seriously Gnome-Shell is quite mature now and with extensions can be made to behave pretty much like an old desktop shell. Anyway to each their own - besides with systemd the default init, it makes sense to have Gnome-Shell the default. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403001535.GA12049@Jessie
Re: Not receiving list mail
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:54:54AM -0500, Craig L. wrote: > I have not received any list mailings since 30 March. I see there are at least > two other people reporting the same problem. I doubt my ISP is blocking > anything as they don't even seem to be able to prevent their internal > communications from being broadcast to normal users. > > Is there any way to troubleshoot this issue? I created a gmail account and > subscribed to the list there, and that is working fine. I sent an email from > it > to this account, and it came through. I can always stick with gmail if I need > to, but I would rather stick with this account if possible. > > Thanks, > Craig > ---end quoted text--- Wonder if the folks having trouble have added their email to the Debian Email Whitelist? https://lists.debian.org/whitelist/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140402185921.GD9273@Jessie
Re: google drive client on debian
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:47:19AM -0600, ChadDavis wrote: > > > Of course, the official linux client from google should probably drop one > > > of these months. > > > > Really?! Last time I had a discussion on G+ they were of the mindset > > that they wanted 3rd parties to develop for it, after all the toolkit > > was released for that purpose. Do you have a cite for this claim? > > > > > I got that sense from reading a lot of articles from recent years, like > this one. Maybe you have got a better sense of the project straight from > the horses mouth? > > http://www.cnet.com/news/google-drive-for-linux-patience-patience/ ---end quoted text--- Well as the article states it's not a high priority - probably because of Ubuntu One (the latter is my opinion). That's the sense I got over a year ago directly from the Google Drive Team on G+. They preferred 3rd party solutions. Mind you, I wouldn't mind be proven wrong :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140402184049.GC9273@Jessie
Re: Jessie Post-Install
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:35:40AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 02 April 2014 02:18:18 Stephen Allen wrote: > > Lisi said: > > > Newbies would be ill-advised to start off with Jessie, IMHO. > > > Stable is a better place to start, especially if the putative > > > newbie has no help. > > > > Disagree - most probably would want testing or SID. Stable is well > > suited for someone installing a server. Most people would want > > modern versions of software especially ones coming from XP. Sooner > > or later they won't be happy with the behind versions of stable > > when on a desktop or laptop. > > And sooner or later they will no longer be complete newbies and can > consider updrading or using backports. > > Stephen, you do not like Xfce4. Nor do I. But that is not a reason > why it should not be the default. Other people like it. > > And for what it is worth, I can just about live with but don't > strongly like Xfce4, but I strongly dislike GNOME. Surely the PopCon results should determine that, no? I doubt very much that the luddites wanting a 1990s desktop metaphor are the majority of users. People are using touch screens, tablets and modern laptops these days. Not all want to use Ubuntu, unless Debian wants to make it so difficult for them, that they must. I've used Xfce in the past, also many other DE, Window Mangers too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140402183653.GB9273@Jessie
Re: Jessie Post-Install
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:35:14AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 01 apr 14, 21:13:16, Stephen Allen wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 03:05:57PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > > Install report? Maybe I wasn't clear: from d-i's main menu it only takes > > > a minor bit of exploring for a user to be prompted to install one of the > > > three alternative DEs. Surely that makes the argument about GNOME not > > > being the default verge on the irrelevant. > > > > Not for novices - maybe I'm not being clear. It is not easy for novices > > to figure this out on a strange OS. You expect them to do an expert > > install to do this? > > But it's not an expert install, it's just an option in the boot menu. > Besides, one can use the preferred image as well: Yes know about the CDs and the DVDs - I'm talking about what happened during a net-install using the defaults. Geesus do really expect a new user to jump through hoops? You're mad if you do. LOL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140402183159.GA9273@Jessie
Re: google drive client on debian
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 09:32:22AM -0600, ChadDavis wrote: > SyncDrive is, from what little I've read, just thin wrapper of a GUI around > the GRIVE project, and built specifically fro the ubuntu repos. That's > what got me thinking that it might be a good fit for debian. > > Of course, the official linux client from google should probably drop one > of these months. Really?! Last time I had a discussion on G+ they were of the mindset that they wanted 3rd parties to develop for it, after all the toolkit was released for that purpose. Do you have a cite for this claim? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140402012455.GD11778@Jessie
Re: no eth0 connection
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 05:08:12 -0400 (EDT), Brian wrote: > > On Mon 31 Mar 2014 at 20:47:56 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> Did you do anything that might have changed a MAC address? Like changing >> PC card Ethernet adapters, for example? Or replacing a motherboard that >> has a built-in Ethernet adapter? The correspondence between >> MAC addresses and interface names is controlled by >> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. You may need to edit this file >> and change MAC addresses. > > Deleting the file is quicker and less hassle. It is rewritten at the > next boot. That used to be true, but it isn't anymore. The file no longer gets re-created during boot for newer Debian systems. I just verified this for my jessie system, and I'm pretty sure that wheezy works the same way. That is one reason why I recommend editing the file instead of deleting it. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/672668159.613513.1396401864355.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Debian and Unicode line drawing
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:14:24 -0400 (EDT), Aleksander Kurczyk wrote: > > Hello, > > I am using PuTTY, Maybe it's not a new software but it works properly > with other distributions (CentOS/Fedora etc.) that uses Unicode by > default. > > I noticed that every frame in default Debian configuration in PuTTY > is displayed as the rows of p and qq instead of > those frame ASCII characters. PuTTY and every of my Debian > installation is set to use Unicode UTF-8 encoded characters so ncurses > etc. should use those characters to display frames instead of this > vt100 escape code and p/qqq after it. > PuTTY and KiTTY is expecting this and not those vt100 compatible > characters. PuTTY/KiTTY can use those vt100 charasters without any > problems but not in the Unicode mode. In this mode it expects > normal UTF-8 characters. > > I can make ncurses applications use Unicode characters with the > variable "export NCURSES_NO_UTF8_ACS=1" set in my .bashrc. > But not all applications uses ncurses. For example dpkg-reconfigure > still uses those vt100 escape code and ppp/q > characters. How can i make it Unicode compatible? I'm not sure if I can help or not, but here's what I do know. On the Debian side, use dpkg-reconfigure locales and dpkg-reconfigure console-setup Make sure the default locale is UTF-8. (For example, en_US.UTF-8.) Make sure UTF-8 is selected as the character mapping in console-setup. Then shutdown and reboot. On the PuTTY side, make sure that PuTTY is expecting UTF-8 characters. In the PuTTY configuration dialog, select Window -> Translation Then, in the drop-down box under "Remote character set", select UTF-8. Also, make sure that the "Use Unicode line drawing code points" radio button is selected on the same screen. Assuming that you are running PuTTY under Windows, many Windows fonts are incomplete. Most of the fixed-width fonts are missing some of the characters that are used in manual pages. As a result, a hollow box will appear in their place. On my Windows machine at work, the only installed font that I could find that would display a hyphen correctly is Consolas. An internet post I read also suggested DejaVu Sans Mono, but I couldn't try it because it is not installed in my machine. In PuTTY configuration, select Window -> Appearance Then change the font. Experiment with different fonts. Display a man page that has hyphens, such as man fstab and see which fonts display a hyphen and which display a box. Go with one which displays the hyphen correctly. Maybe this will help your other problems. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1846658799.613507.1396401812008.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: kernel upgrade
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 11:38:54AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 18:51:59 -0400 > Stephen Allen wrote: > > Hello Stephen, > > >better although slower. At one time it was the go to, but since I've > >gathered that apt-get has been improved. > > Also, IIRC, mixing aptitude, apt-get & Synaptic for upgrades and > package installation, was considered a bad idea. Whether that's still > the case, IDK. However, (very) occasionally I can't use Synaptic, so > use apt-get at those times. No they all use apt - there is no issue with using all 3. > I've tried aptitude in the past, but just couldn't get on with it. I > may re-visit it when I buy a new computer. That's some time off though, > as the one I currently use is absolutely fine for my needs. Fair enough. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140402012021.GC11778@Jessie
Re: Jessie Post-Install
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 11:49:07PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 01 April 2014 11:57:03 Stephen Allen wrote: > > In my opinion no - expecting new users to Debian to read an install > > report is problematic. Using the net-install I wasn't prompted for > > what I wanted in terms of a Desktop Environment. Xfce4 isn't what > > most users with modern hardware would want in my opinion - it's a > > Luddite DE. > > > > But not having wireless networking enabled is a deal breaker too - > > especially since it was working during the install process. Not > > many people using a laptop are going to have wired ethernet either. > > > > Newbies would be ill-advised to start off with Jessie, IMHO. Stable > is a better place to start, especially if the putative newbie has no > help. Disagree - most probably would want testing or SID. Stable is well suited for someone installing a server. Most people would want modern versions of software especially ones coming from XP. Sooner or later they won't be happy with the behind versions of stable when on a desktop or laptop. > Newbies (Windows refugees, not Fedora refugees) are also more likely I > would have thought to be installing with a DVD or USB key than with > the net install CD. And many people like Xfce4. To each their own - most people that prefer Xfce4 were ones that disliked the Gnome-Shell. I followed the discussion when it first came out - been on this list for 10+ years. LOL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140402011818.GB11778@Jessie
Re: Jessie Post-Install
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 03:05:57PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 01 Apr 2014 at 06:57:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > In my opinion no - expecting new users to Debian to read an install > > report is problematic. Using the net-install I wasn't prompted for what I > > wanted in terms of a Desktop Environment. Xfce4 isn't what most > > users with modern hardware would want in my opinion - it's a Luddite DE. > > Install report? Maybe I wasn't clear: from d-i's main menu it only takes > a minor bit of exploring for a user to be prompted to install one of the > three alternative DEs. Surely that makes the argument about GNOME not > being the default verge on the irrelevant. Not for novices - maybe I'm not being clear. It is not easy for novices to figure this out on a strange OS. You expect them to do an expert install to do this? > A decision on the eventual default DE is due to be made closer to the > freeze. I can well imagine an antipathy towards Xfce playing a part in > any possible discussion. Well I hope it's not Xfce4 - can't imagine people coming to Debian from say Windows wanting that choice. Gnome-Shell is becoming quite mature and it just works. > > But not having wireless networking enabled is a deal breaker too - > > especially since it was working during the install process. Not many > > people using a laptop are going to have wired ethernet either. > > At the end of my successful install /var/log/installer/syslog has: > > Mar 29 14:03:43 cdrom-detect: Unmounting and ejecting '/dev/sdc1' > Mar 29 14:03:43 finish-install: info: Running > /usr/lib/finish-install.d/20final-message > Mar 29 14:03:43 kernel: [ 3546.317867] sdc: detected capacity change from > 515899392 to 0 > Mar 29 14:04:55 kernel: [ 3618.294730] usb 1-4: USB disconnect, device > number 5 > Mar 29 14:04:57 finish-install: info: Running > /usr/lib/finish-install.d/30hw-detect > Mar 29 14:04:57 finish-install: info: Running > /usr/lib/finish-install.d/50config-target-network > Mar 29 14:04:57 finish-install: info: Running > /usr/lib/finish-install.d/55netcfg-copy-config > Mar 29 14:04:58 netcfg[3663]: INFO: Starting netcfg v.1.115 (built > 20140314-1638) > Mar 29 14:04:58 netcfg[3663]: DEBUG: No interface given; clearing > /etc/network/interfaces > Mar 29 14:04:58 netcfg[3663]: DEBUG: Writing informative header > Mar 29 14:04:58 netcfg[3663]: DEBUG: Success! > Mar 29 14:04:58 netcfg[3663]: DEBUG: Writing loopback interface > Mar 29 14:04:58 netcfg[3663]: DEBUG: Success! > > 55netcfg-copy-config carries out the changes to /e/n/i described in an > earlier mail. In your case (and mine) it configures the network to use > network-manager (note "clearing /etc/network/interfaces"). NM is only > used *after* the install so you appear to have encountered a possible > bug with it on the installed system. Not that that will make you feel > any better. :) As I mentioned not on the net-install, I've had no problem with a full DVD 1 install, on other boxen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140402011316.GA11778@Jessie
Re: Jessie Post-Install
In my opinion no - expecting new users to Debian to read an install report is problematic. Using the net-install I wasn't prompted for what I wanted in terms of a Desktop Environment. Xfce4 isn't what most users with modern hardware would want in my opinion - it's a Luddite DE. But not having wireless networking enabled is a deal breaker too - especially since it was working during the install process. Not many people using a laptop are going to have wired ethernet either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140401105703.GA18485@Jessie
Re: no eth0 connection
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 01:31:54 -0400 (EDT), Robert Holtzman wrote: > > I seem to remember this happening after an update but I'm not positive. > It did work before. My wireless connection continues to work. > > Looked at the usual suspects, /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/resolv.conf, > etc., but everything looked the same as before as close as I remember. > > Searching on the subject line turns up a lot of hits but nothing I tried > produced a connection. > > Didn't see anything applicable in dmesg but I may have missed it. > > ifup eth0 gives "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0 > > Running Debian 7.4 on a Lenovo t420 w/ 4G RAM and an Intel i3. > > Being pretty ignorant about networking, I'm at a loss as to where to > begin trouble shooting. Any pointers appreciated. Did you do anything that might have changed a MAC address? Like changing PC card Ethernet adapters, for example? Or replacing a motherboard that has a built-in Ethernet adapter? The correspondence between MAC addresses and interface names is controlled by /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. You may need to edit this file and change MAC addresses. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/573203396.594776.1396313276742.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: google drive client on debian
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 09:58:26AM -0600, ChadDavis wrote: > Has anyone had any experience, recently, with Grive or SyncDrive on Debian > Wheezy? > > Other clients would be fine too, I'm just trying to figure out what my > options are for a Google Drive client on a Debian system. ---end quoted text-- I've tried GRIVE but couldn't get it working with 2 step login that is enabled on my Google account. Haven't tried SyncDrive, heck hadn't even heard of it until now. Might just check it out. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140331225648.GD27590@Jessie
Re: kernel upgrade
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 09:37:28PM +0200, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > 2014-03-31 20:07 keltezéssel, Brad Rogers írta: > > For my set of circumstances, it is. However, I neglected to take proper > > note of yours. You're using apt-get (etc.) and I tend to use Synaptic. > > Clearly, behaviour is different in each case. > > > > Mea Culpa. > > > > With the meta-package installed on my system, Synaptic will pull in and > > install the latest kernel, and run grub-config to update the boot > > loader. This result in making the new kernel the default, and demoting > > an other kernel(s) installed. Once I'm happy that the upgraded kernel > > works as required, I can delete the old kernel(s), if I wish. I usually > > keep one older kernel available, 'just in case'. > > I have some machines which I administer remotely and some of them don't > have GUI at all. Synaptic is not an option for me. Moreover, apt-get is > faster :) And I use aptitude from a terminal. Apt-get is useful when a lot of packages need to be installed, otherwise aptitude has some features that I'm more used to like 'safe-upgrade' and seems to work dependencies better although slower. At one time it was the go to, but since I've gathered that apt-get has been improved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140331225159.GC27590@Jessie
Re: kernel upgrade
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 07:46:15PM +0200, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > 2014-03-30 14:59 keltezéssel, Stephen Allen írta: > > >> Are you sure? > >> When the kernel version number changes, the > >> linux-image--amd64.deb will be a new package. > >> > >> Plain apt-get upgrade upgrades the installed packages only and does not > >> install new package. But in this case the linux-image- is a new > >> package so upgrade will not install it. > > > > What Brad said :) > > > > > ... was not correct... :) Well, I use aptitude so yes it was. Like Brad didn't notice you were using apt-get, but I wasn't following the entire thread. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140331224855.GB27590@Jessie
Re: Jessie Post-Install
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 02:56:09PM -0300, Bruno Schneider wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Stephen Allen wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:10:50AM +, Brian wrote: > >> On Fri 28 Mar 2014 at 19:33:44 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > >> > Shouldn't the wifi have been configured? How in the hell would have a > >> > newbie been expected to configure it manually? Should a bug be filed > >> > for +that? > >> > >> You installed a DE so you should expect WiFi to be operative after the > >> install if you used it during it. > > > > Exactly. I'll file a bug. > > You probably just need some non free firmware. > > For instance, if your hardware is realtek, just install > firmware-realtek and it should work. No, as I said it was working during the install and wouldn't without the firmware needed which was, non-free. I know what I'm doing and was able to enable it. The point I'm making is that a novice user would have been lost - Xfce4 isn't the most user friendly UI. That's why GNOME-Shell should be the default. IMHO Most users are going to be using relatively modern laptops that will run it fine. Hell I've had a 10 year old laptop running Gnome-Shell just fine prior. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140331224705.GA27590@Jessie
Re: kernel upgrade
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 10:42:52AM +0200, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > 2014-03-29 22:29 keltezéssel, Stephen Allen írta: > >> Do you have linux-image-amd64 installed? If not, install it. It always > >> depends on the latest kernel so if there is a newer kernel, it will be > >> installed automatically (if you do dist-upgrade). > >> > > > > Actually a 'dist-upgrade' isn't necessary, plain old 'upgrade' will > > install the latest kernel for the applicable distro assuming of course > > that the meta package is installed. > > Are you sure? > When the kernel version number changes, the > linux-image--amd64.deb will be a new package. > > Plain apt-get upgrade upgrades the installed packages only and does not > install new package. But in this case the linux-image- is a new > package so upgrade will not install it. What Brad said :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140330125937.GA12861@Jessie
Re: kernel upgrade
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 04:50:50PM +0100, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > 2014-03-29 14:31 keltezéssel, François Patte írta: > > > Since I installed debian sid (august 2013), I regularly made upgrade, > > but the kernel doesn't appear to be upgraded. Why? I am running > > 3.2.0-4-amd64 kernel. > > > > Do I have to upgrade to 3.13-1-amd64? If yes how to proceed? > > > > Do you have linux-image-amd64 installed? If not, install it. It always > depends on the latest kernel so if there is a newer kernel, it will be > installed automatically (if you do dist-upgrade). > Actually a 'dist-upgrade' isn't necessary, plain old 'upgrade' will install the latest kernel for the applicable distro assuming of course that the meta package is installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140329212906.GA27273@Jessie
Re: Jessie Post-Install
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:10:50AM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 28 Mar 2014 at 19:33:44 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > After the installation, my wifi wasn't configured (despite it being > > configured during the net-install) and was very surprised to have Xfce > > as +my default desktop environment. I had been expecting and wanting > > Gnome-Shell. > > You might have been less surprised after reading the release notes: > >https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2014/20140319 OK Touche - Still not upgrading but doing a clean install. My understanding was that Xfce4 was default on CDs, only because of space limitations - this was a net install. As it was Xfce4 was a strange looking beast, had a hard time finding anything to configure the network. Thankfully I'm not new to the cli. My point is though - How could a new user to Debian (say from Windows) been expected to know how to get WiFi going? > > Shouldn't the wifi have been configured? How in the hell would have a > > newbie been expected to configure it manually? Should a bug be filed > > for +that? > > You installed a DE so you should expect WiFi to be operative after the > install if you used it during it. Exactly. I'll file a bug. -- Steve Toronto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140329123100.GA21576@Jessie
Jessie Post-Install
After the installation, my wifi wasn't configured (despite it being configured during the net-install) and was very surprised to have XFce as +my default desktop environment. I had been expecting and wanting Gnome-Shell. Shouldn't the wifi have been configured? How in the hell would have a newbie been expected to configure it manually? Should a bug be filed for +that? Regard, Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140328233344.GA6382@Jessie
Re: Great Debian experience
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:46:06 -0400 (EDT), Steve Litt wrote: > > ... > I should probably explain my propensity to install a base system, get > it running, and then use the package manager to add the rest. It comes > from long years of usage of Red Hat, Caldera, Mandrake/Mandriva, and > Ubuntu. On those distros, there was the very real possibility that > installation would stall or produce a nonbootable system. > ... Understood. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1315195853.538631.1395969759336.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Gigabyte mother board AMD cpu
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 08:19:42 -0400 (EDT), Ike Shields wrote: > > I have Gigabyte mother board with AMD cpu No. GA-78LMT-S2P > I need the drivers for it. I am using Debian Release 7.4 (wheezy) 64-bit > Are you able to help me? > Regards > Ike I have the same motherboard that you do. Here's what you need: 1. Install package firmware-linux-nonfree. You will need that to get the X driver to work properly. Otherwise, you are stuck with the VESA driver. This is in the non-free repository, obviously. 2. Create a file in /etc/modprobe.d called local.conf. In it, put the following statement: options snd_hda_intel model=auto You need this to get the alsa drivers to work with the on-board sound chip. 3. This motherboard uses non-ECC memory; so I strongly recommend that you use a good memory testing program, such as memtest86+, to make sure that all your memory is good. 4. I also recommend that you install package amd64-microcode. This will upgrade your CPU to the latest available microcode during each boot. Do this and you should be in good shape. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/726031375.519784.1395881306548.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Great Debian experience
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:03:03 -0400 (EDT). Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Choosing XFCE from the beginning has already been suggested. > I suggested choosing expert install and then choosing XFCE before being > taken back to the ordinary installation. This also has the advantage > that you don't have to type startx every time you log in, because you > get a desktop manager. Perhaps you suggested this in another thread, but I don't see it it this thread, Lisi. But I believe that the method you suggested above and the method I suggested are logically equivalent. The subsequent behavior of the Debian installer should be the same in both cases. The advantage of my method is that it allows the specification of additional parameters, if needed. For example, perhaps snd_hda_intel.model=auto needs to be specified. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/827732535.404312.1395258358347.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Great Debian experience
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:31:46 -0400 (EDT), Steve Litt wrote: > > ... > I also unchecked the Debian Desktop selection. > ... > Then I did the following: > > apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies > apt-get install synaptic > apt-get install iceweasel > ... I realize that this is too late for this install, but maybe it will help you next time. Also, maybe it will help someone else. Try this. When you get the initial boot screen from the Debian installer, press F1 for help, then at the boot prompt type: expert desktop=xfce and press Enter. Do *not* uncheck the desktop selection in the tasksel menu during installation. The installer will install the xfce desktop. There's more than one way to do this, but this may be the quickest way. You can also add whatever other Debian installer options, kernel boot parameters, or environment variable values that you want to use on this line. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/131273824.395643.1395228344804.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Testing Hangs in VM
I have tried to install this week's Testing in a VM on my Laptop and found that the installer hangs at Configure he package manager/Configuring apt/Scanning the CD-ROM... In the current versions of both VMware Player and Oracle VM VirtualBox. Linux Mint Debian Edition v-201403rc installed in VirtualBox without any problems, suggesting that the problem is with this week's Debian Testing. Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1
Re: How to configure eth0 with static ip and eth1 dhcp
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:22:16 -0500 (EST), Markos wrote: > > I'm trying to configure a machine with two network cards to share > Internet access to an internal network > > the /etc/network/interface is: > > # The loopback network interface > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet static > address 192.168.0.1 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > auto eth1 > iface eth1 inet dhcp > > The card eth0 is used as gateway on the internal network with static IP > 192.168.0.1 and eth1 is connected to the B-890 -53 Huawei modem. > > But the modem do not send an IP during initialization. > > The IP of modem is 192.168.1.1. > > The modem sends the IP address (192.168.0.4) to my laptop by wifi > without problems. > > Any suggestions of what I should check? I'm afraid that I don't understand the problem. Is this a traditional async dial-up modem? If so, I would expect it to be configured with ppp, its interface name would be ppp0, and it would not be listed in /etc/network/interfaces at all. I don't get it. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1768175306.1084654.1393109938930.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Problem with Sound Volume
On 02/20/2014 02:02 PM, Klaus wrote: amixer -c0 cset numid=20 100 Thanks for the reply. Here's what I got: omputation@AbNormal:~$ amixer -c0 controls | grep -i volume numid=34,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume' numid=11,iface=MIXER,name='Headphone Playback Volume' numid=50,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Playback Volume' numid=26,iface=MIXER,name='Front Mic Boost Volume' numid=13,iface=MIXER,name='Front Mic Playback Volume' numid=1,iface=MIXER,name='Front Playback Volume' numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='Surround Playback Volume' numid=5,iface=MIXER,name='Center Playback Volume' numid=6,iface=MIXER,name='LFE Playback Volume' numid=28,iface=MIXER,name='Line Boost Volume' numid=17,iface=MIXER,name='Line Playback Volume' numid=22,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Volume' numid=24,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Volume',index=1 numid=27,iface=MIXER,name='Rear Mic Boost Volume' numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Rear Mic Playback Volume' numid=9,iface=MIXER,name='Side Playback Volume' computation@AbNormal:~$ computation@AbNormal:~$ amixer -c0 cset numid=34 100 numid=34,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume' ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=64,step=0 : values=64 | dBscale-min=-64.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0 computation@AbNormal:~$ I have sound, but the volume isn't what it used to be> -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528(c) Skype: smolnar1
Re: Problem with Sound Volume
On 02/19/2014 01:08 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Wed, 19 Feb 2014, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have just upgraded my Debian Jessie computer to a AMD FX 8320, 8-core 3.5 GHz, 16.0MB Cache CPU/ASUS M5 A97 R2.0 Motherboard/8 MB RAM. I find that the sound is very faint, even with the volume set at maximum. I am using the on-board sound: computation@AbNormal:~$ aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 I have always struggled with sound and have no idea as to the solution to this,to me,new problem. Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated. How did you get Debian on the new machine? Fresh install? Or just switch the hard drive over? Try the Debian LiveCD and see if the sound works properly If it does, then your problem is probably software or configuration. What sound system are you running ALSA, OSS, Pulseaudio, a combination, etc., etc? Check to see if the correct driver is being used for your sound card/chip. B Thanks for the reply. I moved the two HD's to the new platform. I'm using ALSA. How do I go about checking the sound driver? I'll try the live cd and see what happens, thanks for the suggestion. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528(c) Skype: smolnar1
Re: Problem with Sound Volume
On 02/19/2014 08:20 AM, Robin wrote: On 19 February 2014 13:14, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have just upgraded my Debian Jessie computer to a AMD FX 8320, 8-core 3.5 GHz, 16.0MB Cache CPU/ASUS M5 A97 R2.0 Motherboard/8 MB RAM. I find that the sound is very faint, even with the volume set at maximum. I am using the on-board sound: computation@AbNormal:~$ aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 I have always struggled with sound and have no idea as to the solution to this,to me,new problem. Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528(c) Skype: smolnar1 Have you tried alsamixer, from a terminal, to adjust volume? Thanks for the replies I am using the alsamixer, and have tried to adjust the volume with it running in a terminal and from the icon on the task bar. Same result - very faint sound. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528(c) Skype: smolnar1
Problem with Sound Volume
I have just upgraded my Debian Jessie computer to a AMD FX 8320, 8-core 3.5 GHz, 16.0MB Cache CPU/ASUS M5 A97 R2.0 Motherboard/8 MB RAM. I find that the sound is very faint, even with the volume set at maximum. I am using the on-board sound: computation@AbNormal:~$ aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 I have always struggled with sound and have no idea as to the solution to this,to me,new problem. Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528(c) Skype: smolnar1
RE: Upgrading Computer
Hay, come on... I thought that I had asked a legitimate question, I didn't want to start a war. And, yes, I am top posting. Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -Original Message- From: Ralf Mardorf [mailto:ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:05 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Computer On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 09:38 -0800, David Guntner wrote: > Ralf Mardorf grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 22:57 -0800, David Guntner wrote: > >> I build almost exclusively with ASUS motherboards, and every one > >> has worked just fine with Windows or Linux. So I'm not exactly > >> sure what you were going for here, Ralf > > > > ASUS mobos have different chip sets, as the mobos of other vendors > > have got too. I don't trust generalizations based on experiences for > > computer gear, even not my own experiences. The vendor that did > > build good HDDs for the last 5 years might build bad HDDs the next 5 > > years. The company that build everlasting power supplies might use > > undersized capacitors now. IMO there isn't a real quality standard > > to count on. Your milage seems to vary. > > That's an awful lat of supposition based on things you have no way of > predicting > > All anyone can do is go on information they have, in hand, regarding > past performance. If a company has an established history of turning > out good stuff with a reasonable degree of regularity, the odds are > that the next thing they turn out will likely also be good. Can they > turn out something bad? Sure. But no sane person is going to go with > something along the lines of, "Oh, the next one might be bad even > though they've got a good track record so far, so I'm not going to > take a chance with that new one." > > If you've got hard information regarding a particular board in the > past being bad (bad for lots of people; a case of "it was a good run > but the board I got was bad" simply means you got a bad one out of an > otherwise good run), then that's hard information that can contribute > to a discussion. Anything else is just a non-sequitur that only > serves to clutter up a conversation on the subject while making no > meaningful contribution to it. > > In other words, it looks like you're just trolling... You're mistaken, I won't take the time and search my mails, but you can do it on your own, somewhere in the ubuntu studio or 64 studio or linux audio users or linux audio developers archives or any other linux audio archive we talked about the ASUS mobo I own and about any mobo of any vendor in general. May I ask you how often you repair mobos or any other electronically gear? There's nothing wrong when you say that your experiences with ASUS mobos are good, but there's also nothing wrong when I talk about my knowledge regarding to mobos. You are the troll, since you didn't post one evidence that ASUS boards are generally good boards. I bought and will buy ASUS boards because I don't have much money and ASUS boards are elCheapo mobos and for audio production machines it's less expensive to buy ten mobos and to test them than to buy one expensive mobo from a company how gives a vague warranty about "no issues for audio production". You are trolling because you seemingly don't have experiences with repairing electronically gear during the last 20 years, so you aren't aware that vendors have a tendency to make gear less durable and you seemingly don't use the computer for tasks, such as real-time audio, real-time CNC etc.. IOW on what basis do you define that ASUS mobos are always good? You simply had good luck with ASUS mobos and perhaps bad luck with mobos from other companies. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1392314711.678.145.camel@archlinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/01f001cf28f2$7870aa80$6951ff80$@mol...@sbcglobal.net
Upgrading Computer
I am planning on upgrading my Debian Linux tower and am soliciting comments on the following CPU/Motherboard: AMD FX 8320, 8-core 3.5 GHz, 16.0MB Cache CPU ASUS M5 A97 R2.0 Motherboard Thanks in advance. Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1
Problem with Executable
I have just installed the 64 bit version of v-7.4.0 in a VMware Player on my laptop. Much to my surprie that an executable that was perfectly happy working in v-7.3 (VM on same laptop) now generates an error message: bash: ./MOPAC2012.exe: No such file or directory Yes, it is a 64 bit Linux executable. The permissions are: -rwxr-xr-- 1 computation computation This has happened one time in the past, but I don't remember the solution (being a ROF). Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for ChemistryStochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528(c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f938f8.8020...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Any reason not to run amd64 these days?
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 07:13:20 -0500 (EST), berenger morel wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> I've had nothing but trouble with my first amd64 system. The 3.12 >> kernel >> of jessie won't even boot for me. But my experience appears to be >> atypical. The general public isn't having such problems, it seems. > > Simply curious, what kind of error message did you had? ( if you > remember, of course ) Paging errors. The kernel is fine until the first time it needs to page. The 3.11 kernel doesn't page until it needs to. The 3.12 kernel seems to page at least once during boot, just to see if it can. It can't. That causes it to crash before I can login. I used to think that an only partially successful microcode upgrade was responsible for the failure, but I've since been able to create a paging error on a processor for which the microcode upgrade was apparently successful. (I'm talking about an on-the-fly upgrade from amd64-microcode, not a BIOS flash.) So I'm back to square one. The processor is a true AMD, not an Intel. I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not, but my guess is that it does. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/555377945.816321.1391656504624.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Any reason not to run amd64 these days?
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 15:58:54 -0500 (EST), Rick Macdonald wrote: > > Still, I'd like to ask on the list here. Are there any issues with > switching to amd64? What about drivers? I've had nothing but trouble with my first amd64 system. The 3.12 kernel of jessie won't even boot for me. But my experience appears to be atypical. The general public isn't having such problems, it seems. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1971193438.796896.1391571966000.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: MythTV from deb-multimedia setup?
On Tue, Feb 04, 2014 at 05:40:27PM -0500, Jon N wrote: > Thanks to all, I will be taking my questions to the deb-multimedia > list, I should have thought of that. Quickly, before I go, I did > clean up my 'hosts' file a little and took care of that problem, > although it didn't solve the basic problem. And ~/.mythtv/config.xml > is valid also. I'll try to remember to post back here if I find some > answers, just in case anyone is curious. > > Thanks again, > Jon Check the port # of the mythdatabase. When I set this up a year ago, I had the same error - the database port # wasn't the default (If I remember correctly). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140205024256.GA7942@jessie.gatewire
Problem with vmware-install.pl
I have installed Debiat Testing in VMware Player on 64 bit Win 7 Laptop. All went well until I ran vmware-install.pl. Unfortunately I got an error message during the execution of the installer: Using 2.6.x kernel build system. make: Entering directory `/tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only' /usr/bin/make -C /lib/modules/3.12-1-amd64/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. \ MODULEBUILDDIR= modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.12-1-amd64' CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/backdoor.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/backdoorGcc64.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/bdhandler.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/cpName.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLite.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLinux.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/dentry.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/dir.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.c: In function ‘HgfsOpen’: /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.c:659:27: error: incompatible type for argument 3 of ‘HgfsSetUidGid’ current_fsuid(), current_fsgid()); ^ In file included from /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0: /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected ‘uid_t’ but argument is of type ‘kuid_t’ void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent, ^ /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.c:659:27: error: incompatible type for argument 4 of ‘HgfsSetUidGid’ current_fsuid(), current_fsgid()); ^ In file included from /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0: /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected ‘gid_t’ but argument is of type ‘kgid_t’ void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent, ^ make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.o] Error 1 make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c: In function ‘HgfsInitSuperInfo’: /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:234:15: error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘uid_t’ from type ‘kuid_t’ si->uid = current_uid(); ^ /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:240:15: error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘gid_t’ from type ‘kgid_t’ si->gid = current_gid(); ^ make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** [_module_/tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only] Error 2 make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2 make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.12-1-amd64' make: *** [vmhgfs.ko] Error 2 I installed v-7.3.0 on the same Laptop without encountering this error. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy Set Foundation for ChemistryStochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (613)312-7528(c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52e2b8c7.1070...@sbcglobal.net
