Sun Java plugin invalid in Iceweasel? (sid)
After doing a rather lengthy sid upgrade (it's been a few months, at least), my Sun java plugin is no longer working in Iceweasel. Alternatives is set correctly and Iceweasel sees the plugin, but it's marked INVALID in pluginreg.dat and never loads. I Googled around a bit and it seems like Firefox 6 and the v6u26 Sun Java package are supposed to work OK, but it's hard to tell for sure given the many platform and distribution differences. Any ideas? If this is just the current state of affairs on Sid, is there another Java plugin that's functional? I tried the icedtea one, but it seemed to have a dependency issue with xulrunner that prevented installation. Thanks for any help you can provide. --Todd Machine: Sid, i686 Iceweasel: 6.0-4 Sun Java: 6.26-3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1314751036.20308.11.ca...@timaeus.sophrosune.org
Re: Sun Java plugin invalid in Iceweasel? (sid)
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 19:07 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: Well, for me the next combination of packages just works well (at some point in the past I needed to add experimental to have the latest combination of packages). This is openjdk + icedtea: How are you running two different versions of xulrunner at once? icedtea wants 1.9 and Iceweasel wants 6.0. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1314753029.20308.16.ca...@timaeus.sophrosune.org
Re: Sun Java plugin invalid in Iceweasel? (sid)
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 19:21 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: Please notice these combinations require experimental besides unstable, :-) And to make the dependency handling easier, I just use aptitude in ncurses mode, since safe or full upgrades will mislead... I always use aptitude anyway, but your combination doesn't seem to be installable right now. I downloaded the squeeze version of xulrunner-1.9 and that installed OK after including the old libmozjs2d. But then the openjdk JRE is looking for a newer icedtea-netx than is available anywhere. I forced it all in anyway and got Iceweasel to recognize the plugin, but then it doesn't actually work anywhere. I'm going to say this route leads to way too much package breakage for me to pursue any further at the moment. Hopefully there's a way to get the Sun version working properly. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1314757210.20308.21.ca...@timaeus.sophrosune.org
Re: Sun Java plugin invalid in Iceweasel? (sid)
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 19:37 -0500, Todd Pytel wrote: After doing a rather lengthy sid upgrade (it's been a few months, at least), my Sun java plugin is no longer working in Iceweasel. Aha... not so tricky after all. The problem is that the alternatives system still points to the old plugin location at /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7libjavaplugin_oji.so instead of the new one at /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so Both files are present, but only the new style one works. I'm sure someone better acquainted with Java can tell me why there's a difference. In any event, I just bypassed alternatives by symlinking to the correct file in ~/.mozilla/plugins. Presumably this will be fixed at some point. If someone can confirm that I'm understanding the basic situation correctly, I can file the bug report. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1314759157.20308.26.ca...@timaeus.sophrosune.org
Re: /dev/sd* disappeared from userspace
On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 01:31 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: If you are just now getting the grub 2 upgrade in Sid then it has been a *long* time since you last upgraded. At least ten months? Since before last February? (I can't quite remember when it went through a brief search didn't refresh my memory enough to be sure.) I don't think it was that long. I remember GRUB 2 coming in, but I stuck with the legacy package at the time. What are the versions of your kernel and udev packages? I know you say they are fine but inquiring minds want to know the version numbers so that we can know this for ourselves. :-) Kernel is 2.6.26.4, udev is 164-3. What does this say? cat /proc/partitions It reports the partitions properly. Note that the current udev requires a kernel that is 2.6.28 or newer. This is making upgrades from Lenny to Squeeze especially painful this release cycle. That could certainly be an issue. I suppose there must be some good technical reason that dep wouldn't be tracked by apt. It's going to be tricky doing a kernel upgrade now, since my /boot directory containing the kernels and grub info is no longer accessible. That's going to confuse the heck out of apt and the rest of the usual boot/kernel configuration tools. I could d/l the current kernel package and manually extract the kernel and modules from it, but I'm not sure how best to go about booting to them. Suppose I remove and reinstall GRUB and my current kernel (essentially recreating my old /boot partition on the root partition)... is GRUB going to freak out with the device nodes inaccessible? Alternatively, could I just mknod the appropriate nodes for the moment in order to get the kernel sorted out? Other suggestions? Thanks, Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293716128.1997.47.ca...@timaeus.sophrosune.org
Re: /dev/sd* disappeared from userspace
On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 07:35 -0600, Todd Pytel wrote: Alternatively, could I just mknod the appropriate nodes for the moment in order to get the kernel sorted out? Gave it a try, and this works fine, at least as a temporary solution. We'll see if finishing the kernel upgrade can get udev to handle the disk properly. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293718627.1924.1.ca...@timaeus.sophrosune.org
Re: /dev/sd* disappeared from userspace
Thanks for the link and comments Bob. Just mknod'ing the appropriate device nodes was enough to get back a proper /boot and then get the kernel updated. The nodes show up properly now. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293752174.8658.4.ca...@timaeus.sophrosune.org
/dev/sd* disappeared from userspace
I recently began updating my desktop, a Sid install which I only update infrequently - the last update was a few months ago. As I usually do in this situation, I started by pulling down the various non-X/GNOME libraries and basic admin, devel, and text tools. Before too long, I did a reboot to test the GRUB 2 upgrade, and noticed that /dev/sda - my system disk - is no longer listed in /dev. Oops. I can basically boot up, presumably because the pointers in GRUB get the kernel to the root fs and init, but once running the disk is no longer visible. It's detected by the kernel in dmesg along with the correct partitions, but it's never listed in /dev. This throws an error when init tries to fsck my /boot partition and can't find the device node. Similarly, swapon -a can't find /dev/sda3 and fdisk /dev/sda doesn't see anything either. My only thought was that this should be udev/hal related, so I finished the upgrade for those packages, but to no effect. Is there somewhere else I should look? Again, it's not a kernel support problem - the kernel is untouched from before, and sda is detected properly in dmesg. The disk just isn't showing up in userspace. Thanks, Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293685672.1997.18.ca...@timaeus.sophrosune.org
/dev/sd* disappeared from userspace
I recently began updating my desktop, a Sid install which I only update infrequently - the last update was a few months ago. As I usually do in this situation, I started by pulling down the various non-X/GNOME libraries and basic admin, devel, and text tools. Before too long, I did a reboot to test the GRUB 2 upgrade, and noticed that /dev/sda - my system disk - is no longer listed in /dev. Oops. I can basically boot up, presumably because the pointers in GRUB get the kernel to the root fs and init, but once running the disk is no longer visible. It's detected by the kernel in dmesg along with the correct partitions, but it's never listed in /dev. This throws an error when init tries to fsck my /boot partition and can't find the device node. Similarly, swapon -a can't find /dev/sda3 and fdisk /dev/sda doesn't see anything either. My only thought was that this should be udev/hal related, so I finished the upgrade for those packages, but to no effect. Is there somewhere else I should look? Again, it's not a kernel support problem - the kernel is untouched from before, and sda is detected properly in dmesg. The disk just isn't showing up in userspace. Thanks, Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293685569.1997.16.ca...@timaeus.sophrosune.org
USB/udev/hal - something changed?
I used to be able to mount USB devices without any problem as long as I was part of the plugdev group. No need for fstab entries or anything else. Now I'm getting messages from gnome-volume-manager saying that I don't have sufficient privileges to mount the volume. I'm not sure exactly when this started, as I don't use USB volumes all that frequently. I can see the device using udevinfo and I can mount it as root manually, but why won't volume-manager work anymore? --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boosting AC3 volume (or converting AC3 to WAV)
I've got some video clips (AVI's with XVid + AC3) that have very low volume levels. I would like to boost the volume, preferably doing as little transcoding as possible. I've used normalize in the past to serve this purpose (after demux'ing the AVI), but it only works for WAV's and MP3's. Is it possible to convert an AC3 to a WAV file so that I can use normalize, or is there some other program that will accomplish the same thing? My web searching has so far only turned up Windows solutions. I prefer to follow the lists via web gateways, so a CC would be appreciated. Thanks, Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BIND DNS
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:54:39 -0800 Brian C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a single machine running BIND and Apache. I've never used either before. I've just upgraded this box from stable to testing. I have never been able to get the web site to show up using its domain name. I can type my static IP address into a web browser and it will show up, and I just noticed tonight that I can type in nameofmachine.domainname.org and the web site will show up. BUT, if I just type www.domainname.org or domainname.org then I get NOTHING. Do you have CNAME's for www.domainname.org and domainname.org in your forward zone file? Is it not possible for one and the same machine to be the primary DNS server of the website it hopes to serve for? It's perfectly possible. Is this a problem with my domain name registrar? (I've been to their site and told them my primary dns is nameofmachine.domainname.org and I picked some free service to be the secondary dns. This was all months ago.) No, it's a problem with your BIND configuration. Anyone have suggestions? I'm uncertain which config files would be helpful and wonder how smart it is to post such files, containing my IP address, to a big archived list like this. Thanks for any guidance. I appreciate being CC'd. Have you read the BIND Administrator's Manual? Do you understand the structure of a zone file, and how CNAME's should resolve to A records? Basically, what homework have you done? A public BIND server is not something you should run if you don't understand it. I'd be happy to look at your zone files and see if anything is obviously wrong. But the phrasing of your questions implies that you're missing out on some key concepts of how DNS and BIND work. I'd recommend reading the DNS/BIND section in O'Reilly's TCP/IP Network Administration for a good introduction. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Known compatible USB-Irda adapters?
After much troubleshooting, it now seems clear that the serial connector on my Palm has died. So I'm planning to go with IR instead. I've found some pages that suggest that most adapters should work fine, but product listings at retailers don't really give any specifics as to chipsets and such. Does anyone have any pointers as to known-good USB/Irda adapters? -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Future of Linux Question
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:04:50 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why doesn't someone develop a similar protocol to Microsoft's network neighborhood and smb for Linux. So when you join a NIS like system that it will automatically authenticate you on your Linux network with your currently logged in user name and password. This way people that are accustomed to using Microsoft networking could just migrate over with a similar path. For users that are going to be desktop users they are going to rely on a gui front end with something like network neighborhood. Please let me know what you guy's think about this. Well, as has been stated, LDAP and Kerberos provide a single-sign-on environment for *nix networks, though they're quite complicated for small outfits. As for lack of a Network Neighborhood GUI, I think that part of the reason is a conflict with some deep Unix philosophies. Unix grew up in the world of the big iron server and small, even dumb, clients. Its networking systems are designed so that there are few network resources, but those resources are integral to being on the network at all (NFS-shared user /home's, for example). Windows was born on desktops, and never really left them in philosophy. You need a network browser for Windows because its natural environment is one with many resources spread across relatively powerful desktops. Very different roots, and thus rather different technologies built upon them. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing mplayer 1.0pre3 from source
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 08:35:06 -0600 Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a newbie but I thought I should try to install mplayer from source. So I downloaded the tarball source for mplayer 1.0pre3 and, using gcc3.33 compiler on Xandros 2.0 (Debian), I compiled it. It looks fine but nothing happens when I try to launch it. (First off, as was stated, mplayer is a command line app - you need to give it an argument. Try gmplayer for a GUI.) Your enthusiasm is admirable, and it is generally a good learning experience compiling things from source. Mplayer, however, is not the package to do this with, as you're finding out. It's incredibly tedious, has a zillion optional codecs, some of which are hard to find and conflict with one another, and generally leaves you with a huge variety of libraries, codecs, includes, and other crap lying around your filesystem. Trust me, I've done it. It was a stupid exercise, entirely not worth the trouble. I don't know if Xandros can use Christian's repo (see marillat.free.fr for details), but please use it if you can. You have better things to do with your time... -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing mplayer 1.0pre3 from source
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:58:15 -0800 Nano Nano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's hard but only first order hard -- just keep plodding and you'll get it. See, the reason I like Debian is that it handles first order hard for me. What's the point of doing it by hand? Some projects teach you something - compile and configure, for example, Sendmail/SMTP Auth/Cyrus by hand and you're gonna learn a lot about authentication and mail handling. Compile mplayer with all the extras by hand and you're just going to spend a lot of time hunting down codecs and support packages, and then dealing with variations in the way they were packaged. The first codec/package may be instructive, but doing it 20 times over with minor but irritating variations is not my idea of a learning experience. And I like to do it from source so I know it's optimal. Do you actually understand what all the various compile-time options are, and why you may or may not want them? For probably 99% of users, the basic options in premade packages are all they need. If you're in that 1% left over, then by all means compile away. It's nice to have the power if you need it, but silly to reinvent a perfectly good wheel. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Documentation and Usability
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:10:38 -0600 Mac McCaskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colin and Stephen Let me understand you correctly. You admit the documentation needs improvement and might be slightly un-helpful to noobies. So your solutions are (1) to tell (not ask) the noobie to do fix it (the same one that doesn't know enough about how to use the system) and (2) blame the stupid noobie for is ignorance by not working hard enough. Solution one will perpetuate the inadequate documentation problem. Solution two will enforce the Brotherhood of Linux Clubhouse Rules and perpetuate the frustration of future noobies. Step back and chill out, please. Nobody is blaming anyone. They're simply describing how the Debian organization works. What, exactly, do you see as an alternative? That you, a self-proclaimed noobie, dictate how *volunteer* developers spend their time? Debian is not a business. No one in the project is accountable to the public for the state of the system. It is generally known that documentation is less-than-perfect (though not atrocious, by any means). So it's not like devs are under some illusion of perfect documentation. If someone is interested in writing the docs, they will. Otherwise, they won't. That's it. Apart from doing it yourself, there is nothing more you can do, and bad-mouthing the state of affairs on the list is utterly pointless. As has been pointed out to you before, Debian is not the only distro out there. Red Hat has generally good docs, in my experience. If docs are what you want, use that. And, they're a business. If you're not happy with their product, they're likely to listen to you, provided you give them constructive feedback. I'm certainly *not* saying Go away, you dumb noobie and leave us alone to our cult. The volunteer, non-commercial nature of Debian does not suit everyone's needs, nor does it proclaim to. If it doesn't work for you, use something else. But don't waste your time and energy, as the saying goes, trying to teach a pig to sing. You know the result of that... -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Documentation and Usability
I won't even respond to your other statements, because I don't think I could do so politely. On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 17:32:49 -0600 Mac McCaskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To complain about the documentation is what is known as looking a gift horse in the mouth. (I'll let you in on a secret, I'm raising the awareness of the need for documentation here.) I'll let you in on a non-secret, to everyone but yourself. There already *is* an awareness of the need for documentation. Sadly, no one wants to do it- it's boring, time-consuming, constantly outdated, and just not much fun. Your whining about it on the list will not change those facts. You cannot *make* volunteers do something, and they have *absolutely* no obligation to do what you desire. Why do you not understand this? -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: game
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:07:23 -0800 Nano Nano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Gavin Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can anyone suggest a good game that isn't just mindlessly shooting stuff. Say a good adventure with nice graphics that requires some thought? Didn't read this thread at first. Don't knock mindless shooting games. I get enough hard thinking done programming -- I hate games that make me work as hard as I do when I'm working. Which is why I like FPS games like Quake. Left, right, up, down, and shoot. Play for 15 minutes, be done playing. Start over. Very theraputic. Yeah, I've got to agree. Mindless though they are, FPS games are nicely self-contained. You can play a Deathmatch round in 15-20 minutes and get a nice sense of closure. Adventures and RPG's are the stuff I leave for the weekend when I can play for a couple of hours. I don't mind the thought in adventure-type games, it's just that they don't lend themselves well to break-time. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KVM switch recomendation?
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:15:29 -0600 Greg Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone recommend a good 4-port (or thereabout) KVM switch? I need one which can handle USB keyboard and mouse inputs, and it would be a plus (but definitely not required) if it can accommodate both USB and PS/2 outputs. Well, I have a Belkin SOHO 4-port (PS/2) that exhibits X issues. If I'm using a wheel mouse (IMPS/2) and switch ports, the mouse goes crazy. One generally knowledgeable person hinted that USB mice might not have such an issue, but did not have any hard evidence to that effect. I've heard good Linux reports for the Avocent units also. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KVM switch recomendation?
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:29:06 +0100 John Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I have a Belkin SOHO 4-port (PS/2) that exhibits X issues. If I'm using a wheel mouse (IMPS/2) and switch ports, the mouse goes crazy. One generally knowledgeable person hinted that USB mice might not have such an issue, but did not have any hard evidence to that effect. I have been using a Belkin OmniCube 4-Port KVM for about 2 years without any of these problems. However, I do not use a wheel mouse with the KVM and only use PS/2 keboard and mouse. As far as I've been able to ascertain, the problem is specific to the IMPS/2 (wheel mouse) protocol. Regular PS/2 mice work fine, as do wheel mice if you force PS/2 protocol, and thus lose the wheel ability. I had been told that there was an error with these KVM's when using a wheel mouse. I had also been told that you could download a script to fix this error. Unfortunately I never looked into this and so cannot confirm if this is true. Well, that is interesting! I've barely been able to find anything about the problem at all, certainly not anything like a solution. I would be willing to dig around some more, though - if I could get this KVM working perfectly, I would be very happy. Do you remember even where you might have heard this? -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: regex pattern problem
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:43:28 -0700 s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which tool? I believe perl's would be... Yeah, each one works a little different. Perl's the best all-around, IMO, but I'll add grep... grep '(pg\. [0-9][0-9]*)' filename -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Font settings in gvim
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:37:18 +0530 Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After today's upgrade in sarge, I have vim 6.2.x on my machine. The new gtk icons look good. But I am facing a problem in setting the guifont in ~/.vimrc. Has anyone noticed/experienced this problem? Should I file a bug report on this behaviour? I noticed the change also, but it worked out fine for me. I have set guifont=Courier\ 10\ Pitch\ 11 However, mine is in .gvimrc, not .vimrc. Shouldn't make a difference, right? I wouldn't think so, but I tried moving .gvimrc to .vimrc and saw some odd behavior. For me, the font was still correct. But, using .vimrc, gvim ignores my syntax off line. Using .gvimrc, it honors it. Strange. So it does sound like there's a bug in config file handling to me. But as workaround, see if using .gvimrc helps. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Advice on usb pendrive purchase
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:21:17 -0300 (ART) Hugo S. Carrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a usb pendrive - keychain,(or whatever the name is) but don't know jack about'em. Of course I want to buy the most Linux-Debian friendly one I can afford. Like Karsten said, they should pretty much all work - there's not a lot of significant variation in the technology. Personally, I can vouch for my Mushkin unit. I picked it up online on the strength of recommendations, and it hasn't disappointed me. I haven't tried reformatting it, since I need to use it with Windows machines at work. But I've had no problems at all with using it under 2K/XP/Debian. From what I've read, it's one of the faster units around as well. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Openbox as Gnomes window manager? :-s
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 20:14:40 +0100 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, I wanted to add a user to the system. When I logged her in, Applications -- Desktop Preferences -- Theme didn't show a window border tab, as it does with my login. That felt odd. Changes made with metacity-setup didn't change anything, which made more sense when Openbox appeared to be the window manager of the new user. Using gconf-editor, I found that the default WM indeed was set to /usr/bin/openbox. I changed it to /usr/bin/metacity, logged out and back in, but nothing had changed. As root, I did update-alternatives --config x-window-manager, and chose Metacity, but once again, that didn't solve the problem. What's wrong? Is this a bug? Or what am I overlooking? Is there a way have the default (Metacity) back? Probably you changed the default, but openbox is still in that user's gnome-session and thus overrides it. Window-manager handling in GNOME is really pretty fugly, mainly because the various WM's interact with gnome-session in different ways. This one, however, *should* be pretty easy. Log in as that user and do: metacity --replace That should replace openbox with metacity in the session. Make sure you save changes to the session when you log out, if that isn't done automatically. I think that should work but if it doesn't, you should be able to kill the openbox process and start up a metacity process from an xterm. It's just that the momentary loss of a WM can make input difficult if you don't do it correctly. And FWIW, Openbox 3 blows Metacity out of the water as a GNOME WM. You may want to check it out. IMHO, of course... -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Openbox as Gnomes window manager? :-s
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 23:21:20 +0100 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * [27/12/2003 20:26] Todd Pytel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: metacity gone with new user What's wrong? Is this a bug? Or what am I overlooking? Is there a way have the default (Metacity) back? Probably you changed the default, No, I sure didn't. I did install Openbox some time *after* I installed Gnome, however, but I'd say that shouldn't cause the default window manager to change. I meant you changed the default when you edited the key in gconf back to metacity from openbox. Why it was changed to openbox in the first place, I don't know. Maybe it was a debconf question? This one, however, *should* be pretty easy. Log in as that user and do: metacity --replace That should replace openbox with metacity in the session. Make sure you save changes to the session when you log out, if that isn't done automatically. Yay -- it did the trick indeed. Thanks a lot... Cool. And FWIW, Openbox 3 blows Metacity out of the water as a GNOME WM. You may want to check it out. IMHO, of course... Ah, but that's another point. I'm not enough of an advanced user to appreciate the differences between the two. I do know I like the sheer appearance of Metacity with Gnome, which is why I don't bother to change... Things would undoubtedly be different with a machine less powerful, I guess, but that doesn't bother me just yet. I haven't tried using GNOME on an old machine in quite some time. I'd probably just skip it entirely and go with straight openbox, fluxbox, or icewm if I had to. I just like Openbox because it has much nicer hotkey and virtual desktop customizations than Metacity. I agree that Metacity looks nicer out of the box, though. I had to tweak a theme a bit to make it fit well with GNOME. Thanks once more, Tom No problem. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Palm used to sync... not any more
Using Sarge mostly, with a few Sid packages as well.
I've been using jpilot for some time now to sync and backup my Palm
m500. My last sync was Nov.24th. Today, I go to sync and jpilot errors
out. Attempts at pilot-xfer -l give an error that/dev/pilot (link
to/dev/ttyUSB1) is not connected. Hrm...
Hardware-wise, nothing at all has changed in the last 3 weeks. No new
devices, same kernel, same modules. My USB pendrive still works fine, as
does my mouse. Specifying /dev/ttyUSB{0|2|3} with -p gives the same
error. Any idea what's going on here? Any changes to important software
or known, new issues I'm unaware of? My pisock8 and pisock++0 libs were
the Sid versions from a couple months back, which worked fine before. I
updated them to the newest Sid versions, but that made no difference.
I'm wondering if perhaps my cradle just died on me. The Visor support is
compiled into the kernel, shows up at boot, and doesn't return any
errors. But plugging or unplugging the cradle doesn't generate any event
notification in messages or syslog. Should I see messages there? (I
don't remember if I used to or not.)
Any help is much appreciated.
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Re: Palm used to sync... not any more
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:57:00 -0600 Lance Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Todd Pytel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031212 16:35]: Hardware-wise, nothing at all has changed in the last 3 weeks. No new devices, same kernel, same modules. Have you rebooted in that time? Yes, I rebooted today after I noticed the problem, wondering if the cradle had maybe temporarily flaked out. No difference. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Palm used to sync... not any more
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:03:39 -0600 Todd Pytel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you rebooted in that time? Yes, I rebooted today after I noticed the problem, wondering if the cradle had maybe temporarily flaked out. No difference. Sorry - I realize you're really asking about rebooting before the problems started. As to that, I'm not certain, but probably yes. What's the implication of doing so, however? That the device numbering might change or something? Since the Palm is my only USB serial device, that seems unlikely, and I tried the other ports anyway. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Palm used to sync... not any more
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:28:32 -0600 Lance Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure, but maybe the modules didn't load correctly or in the right order. You said in your earlier post that you had the same modules loaded. Are you sure? (Sorry for being obnoxious, it's just that I've had the experience of _insisting_ that I had the correct usb modules loaded, and it turned out I didn't.) I understand where you're coming from, but in this case I am quite certain the modules are not an issue. First off, everything was compiled into the kernel. Second, the kernel was a custom job dated Sept.28th. So it had been working with my kernel setup for two months prior to the last sync. But anyway, I just received the updated kernel-source in my last dselect session, so I figured I might as well compile usbserial/visor support as modules for the sake of troubleshooting while I was updating. So... timaeus:~# lsmod Module Size Used byTainted: P visor 11432 0 (unused) usbserial 17660 0 [visor] nvidia 1630272 11 (autoclean) w83781d20920 0 i2c-proc7152 0 [w83781d] i2c-viapro 3956 0 (unused) i2c-core 13508 0 [w83781d i2c-proc i2c-viapro] ehci and uhci are compiled into the kernel. Still, the modules load without error but no devices are visible to pilot-xfer. Also no sign of the visor driver in /proc/bus/usb/drivers or a cradle device in /proc/bus/usb/devices. The more I look at this, the more I think my cradle went bad. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Playing RealOne clips
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:38:23 -0800 Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a front end. Both of those can be selected as helper-applications in Mozilla when the dialog pops up. Oh, no I meant from these: http://xinehq.de/index.php/releases I was wondering if you (or anyone) had compared the different ones. gxine says it includes mozilla plugin -- if that means the xine will play inside the mozilla window vs. a separate window I'm not sure I care. I haven't compared. I initially grabbed gxine specifically because it offered the web plugin, and then found that I liked its simple, stripped-down interface. I only use it for web stuff, though - for full-length video I prefer mplayer. BTW -- I've been finding that quite a few web lately cause mozilla to eat all cpu -- where I have to killall mozilla-bin to the machine back. Could be a Mozilla thing - apart from one poorly behaved Flash page, I haven't seen any problems with Firebird. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Playing RealOne clips
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:41:30 -0800 Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.prairiehome.org/performances/20031129/ Ok, I've installed mozilla-firebird and gxine from Sid and they play. Yet all the links play the same stream. I'm not sure if that's a problem on my end or on their server. Interesting. Looks like the URLS specify different locations in the same stream and gxine doesn't know how to deal with that and just starts from the beginning. The real Realplayer works fine, though. I can't skip ahead or back in the stream, either. IIRC, I used to be able to do that on Windows with RealPlayer. (Again, maybe that's an issue with the server.) Again, Realplayer does this correctly. BTW -- is there a way to download rtsp:// type of files and then play them locally? No idea. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: chaning root prompt PS1 question
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 00:57:25 -0500 H. S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried to find on the web how to change my root prompt. I tried setting the PS1 in /etc/profile but it seems that is not read when I do su - to change to root. No, it is read: timaeus:~$ su timaeus:/home/tppytel# echo echo This is a test /etc/profile timaeus:/home/tppytel# exit [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su - This is a test timaeus:~# But if I do source /etc/profile as root, I get my changes prompt, but then I loose the root environment. (BTW, setting PS1 in /etc/profile works in Fedora) So in Debian, bash doesn't read /etc/profile when su - is executed? Where do I need to set PS1 so that I get that new prompt after su -? I suspect that root's prompt is being set somewhere and being read in after /etc/profile, overwriting PS1. Perhaps in /root/.bashrc or /root/.bash_profile? -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Playing RealOne clips
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:34:48 -0800 Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone pointed me to an audio clip of some music. Is it possible to get mplayer to play any of these? http://www.prairiehome.org/performances/20031129/ Don't know about mplayer - I never had much luck with that plugin - but both realplayer and gxine stream the audio just fine from moz-firebird for me. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Playing RealOne clips
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:56:55 -0800 Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to get mplayer to play any of these? http://www.prairiehome.org/performances/20031129/ Don't know about mplayer - I never had much luck with that plugin - but both realplayer and gxine stream the audio just fine from moz-firebird for me. So any recommendations on selecting a front end? I'm running icewm. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a front end. Both of those can be selected as helper-applications in Mozilla when the dialog pops up. Past that, I'm not sure what you're asking. IIRC, I got both gxine and realplayer from Christian's repository, which you probably already use, at deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main I find gxine to be the most generally useful plugin for Mozilla - much less temperamental than mplayer for everything but quicktime, which it doesn't handle so gracefully. But there are a few Real clips that only realplayer can deal with, so I keep it around as well. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SMTP setup question
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:46:33 + (GMT) Anim Asante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have signed up with two ISPs and I tried to set up my Mozilla mail for the second mail account. Mozilla mail would not let me set up a second SMTP. My question is if I send a mail from the second account, which SMTP server will be used? What can I do about it? I don't know about Moz/Thunderbird for sure, but Sylpheed handles this nicely. You get an easy drop-down menu to choose the account when you compose a message. And if you use procmail or Sylpheed's built-in filtering to sort mail to different folders, you can set which account is the default based on the folder. I looked briefly, but didn't see any obvious way to do this in Thunderbird. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: evolution usability (somewhat OT)
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:27:54 -0800 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Erik, Go to the 'view' menu, and click 'hide deleted messages.' That will solve your first two points. they don't seem to go to trash (I would like the emails from IMAP server go to trash on the same server, just like it can be set in mozilla) I know what you want, but it's not currently available in Evolution. All deleted mails in Evo go to a Virtual Trash folder - the actual messages are left in the original folders and cannot be moved. There have been many, many requests for it though and there's an open Wish List bug at Ximian that you may want to sign on to. Too bad Evo can't do this - it's a show-stopper for me as well as many others. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: devfs
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:19:32 +0100 John L. Fjellstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:52, Karsten M. Self wrote: Same story I've heard. My experience with it is pretty gwadawful. My experience with devfs has been pretty good. It's nice knowing exactly which device is loaded just looking at the /dev filesystem. Instead of guessing what the usbkey or the memorystick is, I can really quickly find it out by just looking at /dev/discs. And instead of having hundreds of files, most of which I don't use, I only see those files I use. I agree. I only had one or two issues with devfs, and those were really problems with other applications not being coded to recognize it. I gather that there was a lot of infighting about it on LKML, though. How much was politics and people, and how much was technical I don't know. Still, I think it could have taken off and been useful with more cooperation. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Refreshing the Application Menu
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:31:21 -0800 (PST) Jigga Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running gnome 2.4 on Sarge and i have noticed that everytime i install a new program on my system it will not show up right away in my Gnome Application Main menu. I have to logout and login in order for it to show up for the first time. Give it a little time - it will refresh eventually. If you're impatient and don't want to logout, you can do a killall gnome-panel. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ut2003 OpenGL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:13:37 -0600 Kevin C. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Debian SID. After not running games for about a year I reinstalled UT2003, however it does not run. I've search google, but have not found a solution. I get the following error: ### Could not load OpenGL library ... ii nvidia-glx1.0.4496-8 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver Check /usr/lib/ for dangling symlinks. I've noticed that sometimes the libGL.so.1 symlink gets trashed, causing problems like you describe. I would guess that the nvidia GL package and the X11 GL package are stepping on one another's toes during upgrades. - -- Todd Pytel - Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ru2q4iGDXXexwAwRAswyAJ9RRkclPUIfNK+BzNm6CdMYRjwzAwCeM9zW +rfp32Fk6ECw7JlzCTZmZTQ= =kEbT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sendmail trouble with relaying
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:11:24 +0100 Erik Dörnbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...there are some guys using our server against us, by simply opening an smtp connection to us, pretending to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] and sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - sendmail doesn't see this as a relay or abuse by default. Well, it's not a relay, period. Your receiving mail for your domain, not passing mail from one MTA to a different one. How can I make sure the only hosts allowed to send in the name of aaa.com belong to a certain network/IP range? Guess I missed out a feature or something? Not as far as I'm aware. That's just SMTP - MTA's don't have any way of verifying a from address. You could, if you're sufficiently motivated, probably set up something with Milter that would drop messages from aaa.com that don't belong to a certain IP range. But I don't really see the point. Someone could still spoof the aaa.com from address on other MTA's, or could just connect to yours and spoof a from address from some other domain. AFAIK, the only point of doing what these guys are doing is getting past a spam filter that whitelists aaa.com. Also, see the link below as to why this is not a good idea. Also how can I avoid having mail with empty sender addresses entering the queue? You don't. See the following for answers to that, as well as some of what you asked above: http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/ube-questions.html -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HELP - Need a DNS Guru
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:57:20 -0700 Keith Goettert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ns1.helpfulhome.com is the DNS server for a variety of email and websites. I have been having trouble lately with email arriving late (several days) or not at all. As far as I can tell, this is a new issue. I am concerned because locally the DNS server appears to be working fine. But when I issue commands like: dig ns1.helpfulhome.com @ns1.covad.net I don't get an answer section. I have double checked my forward and reverse entries and all appears correct. Can somebody give me a clue?? Hmm... whois tells me that ns1.lightwaveaccess.net is also an authoritative nameserver for you. At first, I dug at it and came up with the address for ns1.helpfulhome.com successfully. A minute or so later, I got a temporary lookup error. So part of it could be that your secondary DNS is having issues. But ns1.helpfulhome.com was also found at a GTLD server, so lacking a working secondary shouldn't be that disruptive. However, I notice that your NS listings put ns1.lightwaveaccess.net ahead of ns1.helpfulhome.com - the reverse of your whois listings. That might be a problem, but I'm not really certain. If you want, post or mail me some of the domains you host and I can try some MX lookups. That might reveal some more details. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HELP - Need a DNS Guru
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:13:12 -0500 Todd Pytel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... whois tells me that ns1.lightwaveaccess.net is also an authoritative nameserver for you. At first, I dug at it and came up with the address for ns1.helpfulhome.com successfully. A minute or so later, I got a temporary lookup error. So part of it could be that your secondary DNS is having issues. -- Todd Pytel Ah... a bit more poking shows that you control lightwaveaccess.net as well. Whois says that both HH and LWA are nameservers, but dig shows HH as the sole authority for LWA. I'm not enough of a DNS expert to really trace through this, but it seems to me that there's way too much circularity here. At the least, I think you want each domain's NS to list itself as the primary NS. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome 2 and window manager selection?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:27:02 -0400 stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, .xsession-errors has a clue. It's trying (and failing) to run /usr/bin/elightenment,a Acording to dselect, this is not installed. Should I install it? If I have a choice, I think I like sawfish, at least from the breif glances I've seen so far. Hey, enlightenment was the bomb back in the day... like, 5 years ago. So I'd say no. I don't understand what's trying to load it, though. Was this basically a fresh install or did you upgrade the box? Probably, enlightenment is being loaded from /home/.xinitrc or /home/.xsession. I would suggest removing .xinitrc and putting the single line exec gnome-session in .xsession. If that doesn't work, then there are deeply bizarre things happening. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome 2 and window manager selection?
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:48:10 +0200 (CEST) Johan Braennlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Todd Pytel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't mind compiling, you might try Openbox 3. AFAIK, it's not in any apt repositories yet since it's still at Release Candidate phase. Actually, there is an apt repository. You can put deb http://www.hetzi.at/thomas/debian unstable/i386/ deb http://www.hetzi.at/thomas/debian unstable/all/ deb-src http://www.hetzi.at/thomas/debian unstable/source/ Cool. I figured a repository would come along for it soon enough - I think it was a couple weeks back when I checked and didn't see anything. Again, great window manager for GNOME - highly recommended, everybody. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome 2 and window manager selection?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:47:01 -0400 stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I sed dselect to install Metacity. I already had Gnome-sawfish installed. However, I still can't figure out how to tell Gnome to use this window manager. What am I missing? Nothing obvious, so don't feel bad - the GNOME folks pretty much buried window manager switching for the sake of usability and simplicity. Things can get a little tricky because Sawfish and Metacity interact with the session manager in different ways. This is one of those things that will eventually be easier, but is still in a transition phase at the moment. But going from Sawfish -- Metacity should be easy though. First try... metacity --replace ...in a terminal. I think that should work. If not, try... killall sawfish; metacity ...on a single terminal line. Going the other direction (Metacity -- Sawfish) is a pain, however - I don't remember exactly how I did it. I think you want to remove Metacity using Preferences--Advanced--Session, and then run... sawfish ...in a terminal. It can get a little weird though, because you'll be running without any window manager at all after removing Metacity but before running Sawfish. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome 2 and window manager selection?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:09:53 -0400 stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that's the problem. When I log into a Gnome session, I have no window manager running. I can then get a terminal, and run sawfish, ormetacity. The metacity --replace, did not got it intalled permanently. To clarify - you can start metacity and it works but doesn't stick? And no other window manager takes its place in a fresh session? That's very strange. If both window managers are functional, GNOME should definitely pick one of them when it starts. Sounds like something is seriously wrong with your session management. Probably some other component isn't installed - do you see any errors of any sort in ~/.xsession-errors? You might also try wiping all the GNOME related hidden directories in your home dir and starting fresh if you haven't tried that already. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome 2 and window manager selection?
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:00:23 -0400 stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I go into the Gnome configurator, and try to go to the windows section it gives me an error message about window manager 'unkown' not being registred. What window manager should I have installed? Metacity is the semi-official window manager for GNOME 2. Check to see if you've got that. Sawfish is also GNOME-compliant, but has some quirks that bug me. If you don't mind compiling, you might try Openbox 3. AFAIK, it's not in any apt repositories yet since it's still at Release Candidate phase. But I've been running it and the obconf config tool for the last week, and I'd say it's phenomenally better than the other two. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: antispam, sylpheed?
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:29:31 -0400 Alfredo Valles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must say that I'm beginning to like sylpheed. (There must be something wrong with me ;-) ) I would only like to change the fonts used to display the received mail subjects but I can't find this option in the configuration. May be have something to do with the gnome config? Sylpheed rocks - very underappreciated, IMO. Anyway, in you can change the fonts under Configuration--Common Preferences--Display. This might have been a recent addition, so if you don't see it in your version try the version from unstable. I seem to recall that in older versions, you needed to edit the configuration file manually for font changes, and that it was kind of a pain in the butt. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Creating Custom CDs
On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:22:12 +1300 Edward Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying to assemble a CD, but so far I've either come up with building the Packages.gz by hand, or just dumping the .deb files into one big directory on the CD. Surely there is a better way? Yes, you want to use jigdo. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A dhcp problem (I think)
On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 15:35:17 +1000 CB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I run dhclient, it gives me an error message : socket: Protocol not available. Make sure CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER are defined in the kernel config (or words to that effect). Like it says, you need those two kernel options. No, the kernel help for them does not make this clear at all. It probably should... -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tips for serial terminal file transfer?
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:36:56 +0100 Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Waddyaknow (not much, you?). PLIP works. Sorta. I get some long periods of timeout, but currently have an ssh session into the box. I don't know if this is going to be feasible... I've played a tad with plipconfig, upping nibble and trigger to 6000 and 1000 (twice their defaults) on both sides of the link. Frankly, I'm not sure if this helps or not. Hrm. Upped it again to 12000/2000. Definitely dicey. It's been years since I used PLIP, but I seem to remember that the default parallel port BIOS settings were not correct for me. I would think that those settings would be all-or-nothing, but it may be worth checking into. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: devfs backward compat. problem (solved)
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:11:00 +0900 Nick Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last line of this file must be malformed. I simply commented it out. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 17% cat /etc/devfs/conf.d/alsa # device permissions for ALSA sound devices. REGISTER ^snd/.*PERMISSIONS root.audio 0660 #REGSITER ^snd/controlC0 CFUNCTION GLOBAL symlink #/proc/asound/oss/sndstat /dev/sndstat Any devfs experts know how to fix this line properly? Correct the typo in REGISTER? W00t! I'm an expert... -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CUPS - really did it now
Hi Tom, On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:27:39 -0400 Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I removed the package lpd. Now I can't print to cups. Before this, and currently, I have cupsys-bsd installed, but no information on how it's supposed to work. /usr/share/doc/cupsys-bsd is a little sparse. cupsys-bsd is just a compatibility frontend to allow use of CUPS via lpr, lprm, and friends. Check out the man page for lpr for starters. It would seem that I might need to reinstall lpd. no... Then cupsys-client and cupsys-bsd get listed for removal and I really don't want that. Correct. lpd is a full print spooling package. cupsys-bsd is just a facade so that old apps can use the lp commands. So I thought maybe there was something in the /etc/printcap file that might be of some significance. Interesting. On my client system, my /etc/printcap is a symlink to /var/run/cups/printcap. You might try backing up your file and creating that link. I had a remote printer defined from way back (years) and it was pointed to an IP address that was no longer in use. So I don't think there is much there. my line printer doesn't work. I don't think Open Office does either, but right now I can't even get it to load... Start by verifying that CUPS works, then deal with the lpr commands later. If your client is picking up IPP broadcasts from the server, you should see the server's printers in the *client's* CUPS web page. If that much works, it's pretty easy to go from there. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: horde
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 01:02:16 -0400 gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where I can find a howto for horde and its packages for debian? thanks I've only used Horde and IMP on BSD, not Debian, but I found the official Horde docs (on the website and in /usr/share/doc I'd guess) to be quite sufficient. Basically, just edit the files in ..horde/config, ..horde/imp/config, etc. The files have very detailed comments, so you shouldn't have too much need to look things up. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Best Way to Look at Streaming Video
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:22:19 -0700 Ross Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to look at a video on a web site that offered it in RealPlayer, QuickTime, and Windows Media Player format. To my suprise (since I had installed RealPlayer) I couldn't, and this led to some questions that perhaps people here could answer. Which of these formats would be the best choice for Debian (I do have some windows partitions, though I don't think I've installed any of the recent MediaPlayer stuff)? Ideally, I want it to work through my mozilla 1.4 browser, built with gcc 3.3. I've not yet found any universal solution, but I am awfully happy with gxine. Sadly, it's not a Debian package, but it's a very simple compile - just a frontend to xine, really. It deals with web media far better than mplayer-plugin did for me. While I prefer (g)mplayer's interface for watching full length movies/TV, gxine is nice and simple - good for catching a quick clip when you don't want to fish around for buttons and menus. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sylpheed spellchecking help
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:11:28 +0800 Russ Pitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been through both the FAQ and the sylpheed-doc manual and can't even find a mention of spellchecking anywhere. While not an ideally simple solution, you can probably define an Action to run the message through the spell-checker of your choice. That is, if the Woody version has Actions - I think they are a somewhat recent addition to the main branch. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Converting ext3-XFS
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:43:46 +0200 Richard Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahh, i had tried this already, but i just did the untar as root and it works. If you extract a tarball as user it seems to set all file ownerships to user.user instead of owner.group Yes. see 'man tar'. To be just a tad more specific, check out the -p option to tar. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: custom top level menu (gnome)
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 01:57:48 +0300 Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if its possible to add another to level menu besides the gnome debian and kde menus. I want to create a custom menu to make it easier to access frequently used programs. The debian menu method seems ok for the task but it seems that it only adds programs under the debian menu and I would like to bypass that level of redirection. The target platform is gnome but if there is a general way to perform this it would be nice. Which GNOME? In GNOME 1.x, you could accomplish this, more or less, through various menu options available by right-clicking the foot. In GNOME 2.x, they removed those options, making top-level menu editing much more difficult. The top-level menu definition is hard-coded in the source, though that source can be modified so that you can at least have some modicum of control. Let me know if you want more info, and I'll dig up some of my earlier posts on the subject. But be warned that this is not a pretty task. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Script for IP address change
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) William Crowshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This [Q] is not debian specific, but you guys are more knowledgeable than normal linux user groups that I thought I would ask it here. My machine's external IP address is configured via DHCP from my cable modem service provider. Any suggestions on how to write a script that notifies me via e-mail when this this IP periodically changes? I use dhclient to retrieve the IP from the DHCP server. Many thanks, William. You can hook arbitrary commands to be performed when an interface comes up (or down, or both) by adding lines to /etc/network/interfaces. Check out the interfaces man page for examples. You could also create a dhclient-exit-hooks script in /etc/dhcp3. That's a bit more consistent across distros, but less flexible since it will apply to any interface configured via DHCP. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
USB 2.0 storage problems
Originally tried this at the linux-usb list, but didn't get anything. Maybe other Deb users have hit this problem? Having some issues with a USB 2 drive enclosure here. The USB controller is the Via built into the Asus A7V333. I can mount the drive fine, and (at one point - see below) I copied files to it, but copying files from the USB drive back to the main drive errors out with: hub.c: new USB device 00:09.2-1, assigned address 3 kernel: WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured kernel: USB Mass Storage device found at 3 kernel: EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended kernel: hub.c: USB device not accepting new address (error=-71) kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:09.2-1 address 3 kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:09.2-1, assigned address 4 kernel: WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured kernel: USB Mass Storage device found at 4 kernel: usb-storage: host_reset() requested but not implemented kernel: scsi: device set offline - command error recover failed: host 2 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 kernel: SCSI disk error : host 2 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 return code = 607 kernel: I/O error: dev 08:11, sector 19616688 kernel: I/O error: dev 08:11, sector 19616696 (Lots of I/O errors follow)... I was originally running Debian's 2.4.21. In that case, the drive would work properly after a fresh reboot. But unplugging and reattaching the drive would create the above errors on attempts to copy. Is this related to the problem with the addressing in the error message? After that, the drive can be unmounted cleanly, but afterwards is inaccessible to either mount or fdisk. Some recent messages on LKML sounded very similar to this. But they claimed the problem was only in a .22-pre patch and that vanilla 2.4.21 worked fine, which isn't the case here. If anything, the vanilla kernel is worse than the Debian one - I can mount the filesystem, but any attempt to copy always yield errors. I have not used hotplug - does that have any relevance here? I have tried both modular and monolithic versions of the relevant drivers. If there's any other information I can provide, let me know. Thanks, Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: User Mangment: LDAP, AFS, Kerberos
Excellent comments by David. Just to add a few things... On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 11:26:21 -0400 David Z Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raffaele Sandrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not sure if it is possible for this three compnents (AFS,LDAP and Kerberos 5) to interact together using LDAP as central infobase. M$ has managed to get that to work with its AD and Login system and DFS wich is all kerberos 5 based. Much of that unification is done behind the scenes. Passwords are still kept in a Kerberos database, not in LDAP/AD, which means that there is at least a simple hash between usernames and passwords in Kerberos, if nothing else. I've never looked into DFS, so I can't comment on the architecture, but from what I understand AFS is considerably more sophisticated than DFS anyway, so they are probably not directly comparable. At MIT, there's some local very ugly glue that tries to keep everything synchronized. And there is similar glue pretty much everywhere else. All the pieces are modular enough to be strung together easily. If it's not worth an hour or two to create some simple scripts, then your site shouldn't be using these systems. There are several issues wich need to be thought about: - Is there a need for Kerberos 5? Is LDAP over SSL not equal secure? Is there a need for breakfast cereal? Does not copy paper provide fiber? Really, these are two completely separate things. LOL. To be less witty, LDAP is designed to distribute information, Kerberos is designed to keep it private. Add to that the fact that Kerberos is an accepted standard for authentication of other network services, and you can see why it's around. Again, build some scripts - it's no big deal. - Is there a possiblity to trim OpenAFS to LDAP so that it not uses its own userdatabases? I don't believe so. Correct. This is not possible. You must have a pts server and some form of Kerberos. - If Kerberos 5 is needed is there a way to trim it to LDAP? I don't believe so. (But you have the same issues with kaserver as you would with the krb5 KDC.) You mean something like LDAPv3 with a K5 authentication backend? Or you mean something like eliminating pts and getting file permissions through LDAP? I think it's the latter, in which case the answer is still no. But there's nothing keeping you from adding pts info to your schema and managing pts by grabbing info from LDAP. The system should be the most secure and the most simple one :)). It's nice to say that, but you're asking about some extremely powerful systems, designed to serve 1000's of users in a huge variety of network environments. Consider whether you really need AFS. If you just want everything in LDAP, you should be able to set up Samba servers that auth against an LDAP backend. You could cut Kerberos and AFS out altogether then, at the cost of slightly less password security on the wire. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting up an openafs server on Debian
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Faheem Mitha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'm using AFS on the University of North Carolina campus. Much about AFS is specific to your institution. I'll make some guesses, but you need to talk to your IT department. 1) When using an afs client, the command `klog' fetches tokens from the campus server. Am I correct in thinking that this fetching involves use of kerberos on the campus server? I don't have kerberos installed on my client machine, though I have seen descriptions which involve installation of kerberos on the client machine. Is kerberos not required at the client end? Kerberos is always required for AFS. However, AFS works with all major Kerberos distributions - MIT, Heimdal, MS Active Directory - and also includes its own. If you're using klog, that means you're using the AFS built-in Kerberos. These days, that's considered to not be the best way to do things, but switching over to a newer Kerberos from the old is difficult. 2) I'm considering trying to install a Openafs server on a Debian machine. I am not completely clear from the documentation whether it is actually nececssary to install and configure kerberos (kerberos 5 seems to be the preferred version). Parts of the documentation suggest that one could use the `afs authentication system', whatever this is. Adding to my confusion is that the openafs debian packages openafs-dbserver and openafs-fileserver do not mention kerberos even as a recommends. As stated above, you appear to be using the original afs authentication system, as described in the IBM/OpenAFS docs. I believe Debian has a separate package you'll need to deal with the old authentication system. If you hope to join your uni's cell, you'll need to speak with them and follow procedure - you can't just jump in on your own. If you just want to set up your own private cell to play around with, then you're best off ditching the old AFS Kerberos and using MIT Kerb 5. But that may get tricky if you try to use the same machine that's already on the university network. If you have a test box that isn't hooked into the existing AFS cell, that will make your life easier. Does a tutorial for AFS server installation on Debian exist anywhere? My impression is no. There's a decent write-up in the docs for one of the AFS packages - I don't remember which one specifically. Those docs assume that you'll be setting AFS with MIT Kerb 5, which is recommended these days, so they won't quite apply to your university network. But in any case, AFS isn't something that you'll just pick up in a day, especially if you're not familiar with Kerberos already. If you have the machines to spare, I would strongly recommend setting up a private Kerberos realm before you get into AFS. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail/SMTP-AUTH/PAM Solution!!!
On 23 Jul 2003 10:07:41 -0700 Jeff Wiegley, PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Todd, I hope you don't mind but I'm copying your last message sent to me to the users lists because it did result in a solution. and its so simple that I want a permanent record of it in a searchable location. Sure, no problem. See below for some addenda, though. snip Oh here's a good one for you... Why I **REALLY** don't want to use the sasl2 database... umm /etc/sasldb2 stores passwords IN CLEARTEXT!!! so if somebody hacks the box they instantly know all my passwords. This is just stupid. A quote from the sasl docs: For simplicity sake, the Cyrus SASL library stores plaintext passwords only in the /etc/sasldb2 database. Umm. What bright idiot though that the best route to implement something secure was the simple way?? At least with plain/login I can keep shadow secret's hashed and I can accept only pops and imaps to prevent passwords from being communicated in plaintext. snip If somebody out there knows SASL better than I do, I would also like to understand the motivation for this change in behavior (passwords were hashed in SASLv1, but not in SASLv2). It would appear that SASL, being a crypto package, should be able to implement some kind of hash, even if only a simple one, for its password database regardless of the platform. But the SASL people are obviously not stupid, so I expect there must be something I'm missing. Also, since this is being preserved for posterity, I should add two more significant points. 1) SSL/TLS are not end-to-end encryption methods as I erroneously stated. 2) The per-service SASL config files (like Sendmail.conf.2) can have some further variability to keep you on your toes. Sendmail follows the standard, so the following doesn't change what I wrote. But should somebody be using that info for other SASL-capable apps, there are a couple more hangups. The canonical location for per-service config files is /usr/lib/sasl2 (Debian symlinks from there to /etc/mail/sasl for Sendmail), but that location is not strictly enforced. Apps are free to read their SASL config from elsewhere if they desire. Cyrus IMAP, on BSD at least (haven't checked out Debian's version), reads its SASL config from /etc/imapd.conf. So you have to check the app's docs to figure out where the file should live. Furthermore, since the file is parsed by the app and not by a SASL component per se, the syntax can differ from I outlined in the post. Taking Cyrus again, it's config file *does* use sasl_pwcheck_method, even though I said that option is obsolete. How? Because Cyrus handles the parsing and strips the leading sasl_ part when it hands off the info. So really, it is using just pwcheck_method as I described, but it doesn't look like it at first. This also means that options pertaining to SASL can be mixed in with other non-SASL options, since the app chooses which parts to hand off. Ah, what fun... Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how do I get sendmail SMTP-AUTH to use pam (and not SASL2)?
Quoting Jeff Wiegley, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, I'm being light on information because it seems to me that SMTP-AUTH is something a huge number of debian/sendmail users would want and therefor I expected it to be an easy item to configure (if not the default)... the /etc/mail/sasl/Sendmail.conf.2 file has this: auto_transition: true pwcheck_method: PAM sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop saslauthd auxprop_plugin: sasldb It's late here in Chicago, so I can't really investigate right now. And without having an SMTP-AUTH setup in front of me, it's just a lot of guesswork. The best I can say is that, from what I've read on the SASL-lists, you definitely do not want auxprop involved at all. As you noted, auxprop is trying to pull in other mechs like OPIE, which is not what you want. If you haven't figured things out by tomorrow, I have an OpenBSD box with which I was testing out some IMAP stuff that I can retool to check this out. But that will take a little time, since OpenBSD's Sendmail isn't compiled with SASL support by default. You posted useful logs - hopefully someone else can jump in with suggestions before then. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how do I get sendmail SMTP-AUTH to use pam (and not SASL2)?
On 20 Jul 2003 15:42:28 -0700 Jeff Wiegley, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After two days I've discovered that sendmail is using something called sasl (sasl2 actually) to do the authentication and it requires something called realms. Well, I don't want this. I want sendmail to use the same information present in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow to do the authentication so that I don't have to keep issuing saslpasswd commands to add users every time I add a user. It just seems silly to try and keep two different authentication databases synchronized. SASL (AKA cyrus-sasl) is a general purpose authentication layer that allows for a number of different authentication schemes - /etc/passwd, sasldb, Kerberos 4/5, and others. Think of SASL kind of like PAM, but at a lower level. I haven't used SASL on Debian, or SMTP-AUTH at all, but each service that uses SASL should have a config file that specifies the mechanism. That file may be in /etc, or may be in /usr/lib/sasl2. In your case, it looks like you're using the auxprop mechanism, which can actually do several things, but defaults to using the sasldb database. You'll want to switch that to saslauthd. Then you'll need to configure saslauthd to read /etc/shadow - saslauthd can be used many different ways. I'm not sure exactly how to configure that, but I'm sure the man pages and Google will come through for you. sendmail configuration in debian is *very* confusing. As opposed to what OS where it isn't? You don't use Sendmail if you just want something quick and easy. Could somebody please tell me how I simply configure SMTP-AUTH to authenticate using the information present in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow (pam, I guess?) AND I would like it to be a persistent change so that if I upgrade the sendmail package or rerun update-conf/sendmailconf it doesn't break. As stated, the issue is with SASL. Get that configured properly, and the changes will be persistent. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how do I get sendmail SMTP-AUTH to use pam (and not SASL2)?
On 20 Jul 2003 19:42:27 -0700 Jeff Wiegley, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But how and where do I configure this in debian's installation of sendmail/sasl? and what do I need to run to update/reload it once I've made changes? I've made changes to /etc/mail/sasl/Sendmail.conf.2 but they don't seem to do anything. Maybe I'm not reloading something or this isn't the place to make such changes? Are you specifying saslauthd in that file? Is saslauthd running with the correct -a flag for your auth scheme (getpwent or pam)? Have you read the saslauthd man page? What do the authlogs say? --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi, where is gnome2 configuration file?
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:15:15 +0800 Zhao You Bing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sawfish does not use the settings in the gnome-control-center; you need torun sawfish-ui. Alt-F2, sawfish-ui. Which is the same as Applications - Desktop Preferences - Windows(I liked the old way better.) Thank u very much, however I still want to know the exact file sawfish put this configuation in :) Does anyone know? Thanks! It ends up in ~/.sawfish/custom. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No GUI
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 06:14:41 +0200 (CEST) Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed it on my machine, but it starts automatically with the GUI. I'd like it to start with the command line and start the GUI myself once I log on. Any pointers on how to change this? As root execute 'update-rc.d -f gdm remove' (substitute xdm or kdm if necessary). Or uninstall gdm (or xdm, kdm). Debian assumes that if you install a package, then you want to run it. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wireless/cat5 bridge
I'm looking to set up a transparent wireless/cat5 in the uncommon direction - i.e. the network and rest of the world are on the wireless side and the LAN is on the cat5 side. At some point, I'll probably go with a hardware solution, but for the moment Debian is what I've got. I don't need firewalling, filtering, routing, or NAT - just a transparent bridge. So what is the Debian proper way to do this? From what I've read online, I need to ultimately do... brctl addbr br0 brctl addif br0 eth0 brctl addif br0 eth1 ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 ifconfig eth1 0.0.0.0 ifconfig br0 netmask 255.255.240.0 broadcast 10.36.127.255 Is the last line correct (assuming my numbers are right)? That is, I don't assign an IP address to br0 because it's transparent? For the same reason, I shouldn't be doing any routing, correct? Also, do I need entries in interfaces for eth0 or eth1? Or should I just write everything I need into a script, dump that into init.d, and create links appropriately? Thanks for any assistance, Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless/cat5 bridge
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:04:29 -0700 Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) #auto br0 iface br0 inet static address 10.0.0.122 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.0.0.0 gateway 10.0.0.1 bridge_ports all OK, cool... bridges can be configured through interfaces, which saves me the fuss of writing an init script. But a few more details would be helpful - mainly, do I really need an IP address for the bridge? Also, I have the wireless configured in interfaces already in order to specify the ESSID and WEP key - it also uses DHCP to get an address. When I switch to bridging, do I switch that to static or will removing the auto directive be enough? Thanks, Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions on choosing an IMAP server
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:07:57 -0700 Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi D-U :) I'm going to switch from pop3 to imap, and I'd like to know what you guys think is the best debian packaged IMAP server, and why. I'd really like to use MailDir mailboxes. Thanks. Courier is very simple to set up and uses MailDir by default. Myself and others seem to like it a lot for a simple IMAP server. Do you have any particular needs that we should know about? Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless/cat5 bridge
Mike, Great - thanks for the info. I'll try it out tomorrow or Friday, and report back if there are issues. Cheers, Todd On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:34:13 -0700 Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 06:20:02PM -0500, Todd Pytel wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:04:29 -0700 Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), # ifdown(8) #auto br0 iface br0 inet static address 10.0.0.122 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.0.0.0 gateway 10.0.0.1 bridge_ports all apt-get -u install bridge-utils OK, cool... bridges can be configured through interfaces, which saves me the fuss of writing an init script. But a few more details would be helpful - mainly, do I really need an IP address for the bridge? Also, Probably not, but it is useful. I have the wireless configured in interfaces already in order to specify the ESSID and WEP key - it also uses DHCP to get an address. When I switch to bridging, do I switch that to static or will removing the auto directive be enough? This works too: auto br0 iface br0 inet dhcp bridge_ports all I haven't used bridging with wireless, but I have assigned an ip address to individual interfaces and it worked. YMMV. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: startx problem
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:12:44 +1000 Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: , then I use command to test X startx, but I could not start X, rather I get the error message. Please see the attached file for details. from attachment (II) LoadModule: xtt (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libxtt.a Duplicate symbol TT_FreeType_Version in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libxtt.a:xttmodule.o Also defined in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a Looks like two modules are butting heads trying to do the same thing. I'm not familiar with xtt, but I think that onlyfreetype is used in typical setups. Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config - probably towards the top there's a Module section that contains lines like Load xtt Load freetype Delete or comment out (#) the xtt line and see if that helps. Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: startx problem
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:06:07 +1000 Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I reboot the system and startx. But It looks like coming the same problem. Please see the attached log file... No, it's a very different problem. You did read the log file, didn't you? We see... snip from log ==) VGA(0): videoRam: 256 kBytes. ... (II) VGA(0): Not using default mode 640x350 (insufficient memory for mode) (II) VGA(0): Not using default mode 640x400 (insufficient memory for mode) onward and onward through the modes So X thinks your video card has only 256K of RAM - note that's a K, not an M. No remotely standard video mode can squash its data into 256K. Not sure why debconf got the memory so wrong. You could try running the configuration program again as before - this time, be sure to 1) select the appropriate card - GeForce or nvidia or similar and 2) specify the video memory - you may need to give this in KB, i.e. 64MB = 64 x 1024K = 65536K. Alternatively, you could edit XF86Config-4 by hand. Change the driver line in the Device section to vesa or maybe nv and add a line in the same section that says VideoRam 65536 Hope that helps... Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hostname is not correct
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:12:35 -0800 Rodney D. Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I attempt to send mail, from the command line, the address after the @ is knoppix. After I installed knoppinx to the hard drive, I've edited /etc/hostname to show the machine name riverside. Everything I've looked at inside the /etc/ directory has no more mention of KNOPPIX. In the /etc/defaultdomain, I have my domain inserted there. Perhaps /etc/hosts needs changes made? That's usually where the hostname ends up being read from. Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LCDproc client problem!
Perhaps you need to specify a backlight value for the client? That is, it may be that the client is displaying perfectly well, but with no backlight so that you can't see it. Also, note that the lcdproc client has problems with CrystalFontz displays - something having to do with character encoding from what I understand. So you might see odd characters and spacing for certain lcdproc screens. I have the 16x2 display, and lcdproc was basically unusable for me - I hacked up some perl scripts as a substitute. That doesn't sound like the source of your current problem, though. Todd On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 23:24:45 -0500 Rthoreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The LCDd is working ok, I have the server screen displaying on my lcd with the main LCDd heartbeat. It is just waiting for a client to connect, when I run lcdproc and give it parameters the last thing I see is the server screen saying 1 client is connected then everything goes black. If I ctrl c out of the terminal I started lcdproc I get back the server screen. Also if I start a text, or ncurses session along with the CFonts session in LCDd I get the text showing some system specs that I specified when starting lcdproc. But the lcd screen is still black. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A menu bug?
I'm noticing a very peculiar behavior trying to translate menus. First I tried using the example in /etc/menu-methods/translate_menus - changing Apps to Programs. Using the subtranslate directive destroyed the subfolder hierarchy under Programs, so I tried using substitute instead. This correctly swapped Apps for Programs and left the subfolders intact - except for Net. Net, and only Net, remained under Apps. Its subfolder for Mozilla Components, however, moved properly to Programs. This happens both as root and as a user, and shows up both in the blackbox menu file and the GNOME folder. Changing Apps to Programs directly in the menu entries changes the location as would be expected. Menu version is 2.1.8-2. I have no other modifications of menu-methods. At the moment, I don't even have anything in /etc/menu. Snippet from translate_menus: substitute section-section Apps/Programs/ endtranslate And here are two entries from the debug output of update-menus: update-menus[24883]: Reading menuentryfile /usr/lib/menu/vim update-menus[24883]: translate: var[Apps/Editors] testing trans rule match for:Apps/ update-menus[24883]: ADDING: command=/usr/bin/vim icon=/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/vim.xpm longtitle=VIM, Vi IMproved needs=text package=vim section=Programs/Editors title=Vim update-menus[24883]: Reading menuentryfile /usr/lib/menu/lynx update-menus[24883]: translate: var[Apps/Net] testing trans rule match for:Apps/ update-menus[24883]: ADDING: command=/usr/bin/lynx hints=Web Browsers needs=text package=lynx section=Apps/Net title=Lynx Both entries recognize the translate rule, but for lynx it appears to be silently ignored. Looks to me like the specific combo of Apps/Net is bumping into something coded into a script or executable somewhere and not getting read correctly. But maybe I'm just missing something... --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cupsd not working.
Check out the logs in /var/log/cups for hints. I think I've seen this behavior with ghostscript problems, but it probably be any number of things. --Todd On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:45:53 -0400 Antonio Rodr0X [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a HP Deskjet 895Cse pluged to /dev/lp0 It shows configured fine in localhost:631, and a test page sent to printer shows completed. However, nothing prints. What could the problem be? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cupsd not working.
That sure doesn't help much. Try turning up the log level to debug in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, and restarting cupsd or rebooting. Also check the page and access logs if you haven't already. --Todd On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:29:30 -0400 TR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is really not much there. From error_log: I [06/Jul/2003:17:39:40 -0400] Printer 'HPDeskjet895C' modified by 'root'. I [06/Jul/2003:17:39:43 -0400] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi (pid=1902) I [06/Jul/2003:17:39:51 -0400] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi (pid=1903) I [06/Jul/2003:17:39:52 -0400] Job 17 queued on 'HPDeskjet895C' by ''. I [06/Jul/2003:17:39:52 -0400] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 1904) for job 17. I [06/Jul/2003:17:39:52 -0400] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/cupsomatic (PID 1905) for job 17. I [06/Jul/2003:17:39:52 -0400] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel (PID 1906) for job 17. I [06/Jul/2003:17:39:59 -0400] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi (pid=1911) I [06/Jul/2003:17:40:10 -0400] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi (pid=1915) I [06/Jul/2003:17:40:52 -0400] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi (pid=1916) I [06/Jul/2003:17:40:55 -0400] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi (pid=1917) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cupsd not working.
On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:14:42 -0400 Antonio RodrHX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After turning the level to debug, here is what I get, after stopping and starting again. I am attaching the relevant part. Thanks snip from attachment D [06/Jul/2003:22:01:13 -0400] foomatic-gswrapper: gs '-dSAFER' '-dNOPAUSE' '-dBATCH' '-sDEVICE=stp' '-sOutputFile=/dev/fd/3' '/dev/fd/0' 31 12 D [06/Jul/2003:22:01:14 -0400] GNU Ghostscript 6.53 (2002-02-13) D [06/Jul/2003:22:01:14 -0400] Copyright (C) 2002 artofcode LLC, Benicia, CA. All rights reserved. D [06/Jul/2003:22:01:14 -0400] This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file COPYING for details. D [06/Jul/2003:22:01:15 -0400] Printer must be specified with -sModel D [06/Jul/2003:22:01:15 -0400] Unable to open the initial device, quitting. D [06/Jul/2003:22:01:15 -0400] Couldn't exec foomatic-gswrapper -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=stp -sOutputFile=- - at /usr/lib/cups/filter/cupsomatic line 965. end snip Well, it does look a problem with Ghostscript and/or foomatic, and not with cups proper. It appears to me (though I'm no expert) that CUPS (the spooler) hands off the job to Ghostscript successfully, but then GS can't process it correctly, probably because it's trying to open a non-existent device. I don't use the foomatic toolchain, so I'm afraid I can't be of much more assistance. Some questions that come to mind though... Did you possibly have a choice of drivers at some point during the Ghostscript or foomatic install? Are there any other drivers you could pick in the printer configuration that seem reasonable? Also, I know there's an HP driver somewhere - hpijs maybe? Is that applicable here? However it works out, it appears that you need to be using a different GS driver than you're trying right now. Sorry I can't be more helpful... hopefully someone with an HP is reading... --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Static IP config
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 16:46:18 -0500 Kelley Hilborn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About all I can do at this point is ping my gateway computer. Am I missing something once again? One other thing, do I need to input a nameserver anywhere? If so, where? You're on the right track. man resolv.conf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HowTo for Gnome2??
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:10:37 -0600 John W. M. Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:13:24PM -0500, Todd Pytel wrote: I backed up my sources.list, OK . . . changed it to unstable, It? Did you mean the APT::Default-Release value? I guess so - I don't know the proper Debian terminology. I switched testing for unstable did an apt-get update, apt-get install gnome-core, OK. and then restored the old sources.list. There isn't a command line option for specifying this? I thought that was what -t, --target-release and --default-release were for? Perhaps. I didn't say that this was the only way to do it. Works fine. Nautilus 2 is worlds faster than the original, fonts are nice, everything is anti-aliased, blah, blah, blah... OK. If you're absolutely opposed to any unstable packages, then I guess you're screwed. That's what you get for running testing. What, are you saying that I'm less likely to get screwed by running experimental, than testing? I didn't know that. Why? No, what I'm saying is that if you run testing, you can't always expect that packages will play well together. It's an automated distribution, so you get strange results when one package is held up by a dependency or unstable has switched to a new major version. In this case, that means either 1) putting a hold on the GNOME packages until all of them are in testing, or 2) getting the other core GNOME 2 packages from unstable. If you just moved to testing in the last 2 weeks, then it's probably too late for #1, since some 1.4 packages are already out of your package lists. That leaves #2. That's life in Testing. GNOME 2 may be the first time you've hit odd release problems like this, but it will probably not be your last. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Very big files with tar
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:50:52 +0200 Raffaele Sandrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to do a backup to another partition using tar. Here are about 9GB data to be saved. After a while tar complaints about a to big output file (i think max size is around 2GB). Is there a way to split the output in more files? Odd. I know I've created larger files with tar - I backed up about 5GB compressed last week. That was on OpenBSD, but usually the GNU tools are more powerful than the BSD ones. Are you sure you've got disk space for the operation? Also, does the filesystem you're putting the tarball on support large files? FAT32, for example, only supports a max file size of 2GB. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HowTo for Gnome2??
I don't see exactly what the fuss is. Fonts are fine for me - I do remember previous updates (maybe a month ago) in testing breaking them momentarily, however, so this may not be a GNOME issue. As for the rest of the GNOME2 packages, they're just not here yet - deal with it. I backed up my sources.list, changed it to unstable, did an apt-get update, apt-get install gnome-core, and then restored the old sources.list. Works fine. Nautilus 2 is worlds faster than the original, fonts are nice, everything is anti-aliased, blah, blah, blah... If you're absolutely opposed to any unstable packages, then I guess you're screwed. That's what you get for running testing. --Todd On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:17:46 -0600 John W. M. Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I upgraded from stable to testing, in order to be able to start using Gnome2, only to find that there was no good way to get a complete, usable Gnome2 installation. Many things are broken, including: 1) Fonts. They are really ugly, and it seems that the previous defaults were just ignored. 2) The Gnome Settings Daemon was not installed, and it repeatedly complains about that lack. I can't find any package that indicates that it might contain this semi-mythical daemon. 3) It seems impossible to figure out what will conflict with what, without actually trying just about every combination. Incompatible packages are all stuffed into the gnome section, with no clue as to what packages should be installed to get a reasonably complete Gnome2 installation. I seem to have installed, and uninstalled, parts of both Gnome and Gnome2 several times now. There was rumour of a gnome2 meta package. It doesn't seem to actually exist. Perhaps it's only in experimental? 4) There SHOULD be a way to run both Gnome and Gnome2 on the same machine, as the major number of the libraries is different, but the packages seem to be configured in such a way as to insist that these are incompatible. Yes, this will eat up more memory (both library versions must be resident at the same time), but if Gnome2 in testing simply isn't yet complete, then I really have no choice. Is there any documentation on how, using testing, to get the most complete (applets, to, please!) Gnome2 installation possible? Please, no suggestion about pinning anything, as there doesn't seem to be any documentation or man pages about what that is, or how to do that, either. Thanks, John S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT? www.donotcall.gov problem
I'd suspect Galeon - I had no problem registering with Mozilla-Firebird. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: How to get IP address via Samba name?
nmblookup is built for just what you describe. It's part of the standard Samba packages. --Todd On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 23:15:39 -0500 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I determine the IP address of somePC (smbclient -L still finds the PC; it just doesn't report the IP address anymore). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: How to get IP address via Samba name?
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 23:47:41 -0500 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kent West wrote: Ah, nmblookup -S somePC works just fine. Thanks! Then again, apparently not. The fourth octet appears to be wrong, so I suspect the address I'm getting is of some other machine along the way, perhaps a router or something. No, shouldn't be anything like that. There shouldn't really be any tricks to it. So, -S doesn't work. -T doesn't work. -A doesn't work. -M doesn't work. Did you try plain old nmblookup PCname ? That's the standard usage, no options. If that still doesn't work, it could be a conflict with /etc/hosts or DNS, though I'm pretty sure nmblookup should bypass those. What kind of network are we dealing with here? --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple bash loop problem ...
How about for N in `seq 1 9` do...? --Todd On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:55:00 + Jonathan Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 03:03:27PM +0100, David selby wrote: Hello, I am writing bash a bash sed script, it has been going suprisingly well. I need a loop to count 9 times the variable n to the count .. [snip] for N in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 do echo $N done I'm sure someone will point out a more elegant first line than this. HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Correct Java for the Firebird package?
I grabbed the nifty xft-enabled Moz-Firebird package for testing last week, but can't seem to get Java working on it. I was previously using Sun's 1.4.1_02 package along with the compatibility deb for the old C++ library - that worked fine on Debian's Mozilla and on mozilla.org's Phoenix/Firebird. But after trying various alternatives, the Debian Firebird package doesn't pick up on any of the plugins. Right now I've got Sun 1.4.1_03, which works in Mozilla 1.0.0, but not in Firebird. There are no error messages if I start Firebird from a terminal, and from what I can understand of the ldd output, both Mozilla-Firebird-bin and mozilla-bin are compiled against the same libraries. What am I missing here? Thanks, Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Correct Java for the Firebird package?
Thank you, but the directory location is not the problem. My /usr/lib/mozilla-firebird/plugins dir is a link to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. Firebird sees my Flash plugin located there just fine, so I don't think the location is the problem. --Todd On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:19:39 +0200 LeVA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I am using the Blackdown java client, but I tried the Sun's java client too with moz firebird. (http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html) You must link the javaplugin_oji.so file to ~/.mozilla/plugins dir instead of the ~/.phoenix/plugins dir. If this is not working, try to link that javaplugin_oji.so file to the MozillaFirebird install dir, where is a plugins dir too. It has a file called libnullplugin.so. I am using this last version now. If you start the firebird browser type this in the location bar: about:plugins there you can see which plugins you have installed. Hope it helps! Todd Pytel wrote: I grabbed the nifty xft-enabled Moz-Firebird package for testing last week, but can't seem to get Java working on it. I was previously using Sun's 1.4.1_02 package along with the compatibility deb for the old C++ library - that worked fine on Debian's Mozilla and on mozilla.org's Phoenix/Firebird. But after trying various alternatives, the Debian Firebird package doesn't pick up on any of the plugins. Right now I've got Sun 1.4.1_03, which works in Mozilla 1.0.0, but not in Firebird. There are no error messages if I start Firebird from a terminal, and from what I can understand of the ldd output, both Mozilla-Firebird-bin and mozilla-bin are compiled against the same libraries. What am I missing here? Thanks, Todd -- LeVA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome 2 menus - not the obvious question
I know how menu editing does (or rather doesn't) work in Gnome 2 - vfolders, desktop files, and all that. What I can't figure out is what defines the main menu itself. That is, when I click the foot, I see Applications, Debian Menu, KDE Menu, Run Program, etc. What defines that top-level menu? The vfolders directories only contain the definitions for Applications, Preferences, and other xxx:/// locations, not the main menu definition itself. Thanks, Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIS and Samba - can't authenticate Windows 98 clients
Clive, You need to be more specific about how things are set up, specifically the Samba security level (share, user, domain, etc.). Generally speaking, Samba and NIS don't really go together. Samba, in most setups (there are many possibilities), authenticates its users against the smbpasswd file. This is a separate password database from /etc/passwd, though samba can be configured to keep them in sync. It will not read NIS for passwords at all, though. At best, Samba could use NIS for uid/gid mapping, but that's about it. Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem arises when booting the same client into windows98 - it doesn't seem to find the NIS server to validate the user. What do you mean by validate the user? Are you using Windows Family Logon or Client for Microsoft Networks? Can the 98 machine browse the network? Or just not access the share? How many machines are running NFS? Samba? Any log messages on the Samba machine? Details, please. --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIS and Samba - can't authenticate Windows 98 clients
What are you showing here? Are Hydra and Hydra_SAMBA_ different machines? Why the -B with no address? nmblookup will broadcast by default. I think what you see below is the system trying to resolve Hydra_SAMBA_ into an IP address as the argument to -B, i.e. you're not specifying a lookup of Hydra_SAMBA_, if that's what you intended. Try just nmblookup Hydra_SAMBA_. --Todd On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 23:58:36 +0100 Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some further info: Hydra:/# /usr/bin/nmblookup -B Hydra_SAMBA_ YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: Domain not bound -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIS and Samba - can't authenticate Windows 98 clients
Clive, OK, here's what I think should work. Bear in mind that 1) This is a pretty ugly business, and usually takes a lot of testing to iron out. The following should give a rough outline to start with. 2) This suggestion is not really suitable for a professional installation - it's not particular secure, scalable, or easy to administer. Doing this right would require LDAP or Active Directory, among other things, and a lot more work. 3) I don't know anything about OSX or how that machine will interact with this. Probably not well... Hydra ^ NIS: should serve up maps for at least passwd and group. The *nix clients need their uid/gid info from here. It does not need to serve shadow maps - all password authentication will be done via smbpasswd. NFS: not much to change here Samba: should be set to security=user. All passwords are maintained via smbpasswd, which enters the user info into an SMB-style encrypted password file. Thus, this is a separate step from adding the user to an NIS map. Zeus/Phoenix NIS: should have entries in nsswitch.conf to get their uid/gid info from Hydra NFS: it's so easy... too bad it's so insecure... Samba: should be set to security=server and have password server = HYDRA in smb.conf. These machines will authenticate SMB access against HYDRA's smbpasswd database, and assign file permissions according to NIS. Windows Clients ^^^ There shouldn't be anything to worry about here. Linux Clients ^ NIS: as above, setup nsswitch.conf PAM: you need users to authenticate via Hydra's smbpasswd - thus, you need pam_smb. Explaining PAM is beyond the scope of this reply. Just be careful and leave an open root shell - it's ridiculously easy to lock yourself out of a box by messing with pam. Info is at pamsmb.sourceforge.net, though the file should be part of the samba packages. That should be enough to get things rolling. I'm happy to continue off-list if you want - authentication and interoperabilty are a particular interest of mine. Cheers, Todd On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 02:00:11 +0100 Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Todd Hydra is the debian box that I've set up as the NIS server. In its smb.conf file, I've tried a number of different settings: workgroup = PRIORYROAD (as in Windows Network Neighbourhood) netbios name = Hydra security = domain I'm not sure what you mean by share but as I wrote earlier everything seems to work fine on the linux side. From what you say, maybe what I'm trying to do is not possible or certainly beyond my limited capabilities ;-) Anyway I'll try to describe what I want to achieve and perhaps you can advise whether it will fly. We have two HP LH Pro Servers running stable, Hydra and Zeus. Hydra is the main server for work files to be accessed by two clients: a Dell PC(Monty used by Maggie) dual booting Windows98 and Woody; a G4 (Apollo used by me) dual booting MacOSX and Woody/Sarge. Zeus is mainly serving music files to these two clients. We have a Mac8100/80 (Phoenix) running Woody and serving work files and music to 2 further PC's (Fred and George used by our boys, Jason and Luke) both running windows98. Prior to experimenting with NIS, I set up Maggie and Clive as users on each of Hydra, Zeus, Phoenix using the same UID's, GUID's and passwords as on their workstations. All three servers are running NFS and Samba and subject to exports and permissions, all the Windows users (Maggie, Luke and Jason) can access files on the relevant servers. Maggie (on Monty) can also access all three servers via NFS. To try NIS I setup Hydra as the NIS server and removed Maggie's user details from Phoenix to test whether she could still access it using the NIS info on Hydra. On the Linux side it seemed to work seemlessly. When Monty is booted into Windows she can't access Phoenix because Samba isn't talking to NIS, I guess. In an ideal world, I would like to maintain all user and group information on one server (Hydra) and let it validate users for itself, Zeus and Phoenix. Sorry if this is a bit long winded. snip Maggie is using Client for Microsoft Networks She can see Phoenix on Network Neighbourhood but selecting it prompts for a password which is rejected as invalid. I haven't enabled logging on the three Samba servers but if Monty is not finding the NIS info, would this show anything? I can send you the various conf files (probably better done off list) if you think this will help. I am very interested to know how to achieve this not so much for this network but because if we advise clients on migration to Linux, we may need a solution to the problem of maintaining users on a mixed network. It seems to be possible using an NT Name Server but it would be preferable to be able to suggest an open source alternative. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SAMBA winbind ./configure --with-pam fails always
There shouldn't be any need for this - Debian's samba packages already have PAM support. At least the woody ones and the .debs at samba.org do... --Todd Philippe Dhont (Sea-ro) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have the following problem, i already asked on samba and pam user lists but they say i should ask here because i use debian, I do everything on debian these days. The problem is when i download samba and when i compile it --with-pam Then i always get errors They say i need the pam-devel but when i check with dselect, it is installed: Libpam0g-dev and these should be the development files for PAM, and it is installed. I checked for PAM internet on the official site: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ I have PAM installed (or else my linux wouldn't work) and i installed the newer version also. But it is still not working, where can i find those devel packages ? I looked on: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/pre/ (there are all the pam packeges) But what exactly do i have to install ? I need winbind for windows authentication testing. I am not so familiar with the devel packages, i have PAM and it's working and don't know lot's more about other devels. configure:14172: checking whether struct passwd has pw_age configure:14224: checking for poptGetContext in -lpopt configure:14267: checking whether to use included popt configure:14282: checking configure summary configure:14291: gcc -o conftest -O -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_GNU_SOURCE conftest.c -ldl -lnsl -lpam 15/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpam collect2: ld returned 1 exit status configure: failed program was: #line 14287 configure #include confdefs.h #include ./tests/summary.c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB 2 drive enclosure recommendations/warnings?
I'm looking to pick up a USB hard drive enclosure for backup purposes, and was wondering if there were any success/failure stories I should be aware of. I need an enclosure (not an external drive) because I'll also be backing up (via network) some OpenBSD machines, which don't support USB 2 - so the drive would have to be removed from the enclosure and attached directly in case of a restore. The enclosure doesn't have to be built for constant movement - I won't be carting it around places, except for the trip back and forth to the closet every couple weeks. I'd rather not spend a fortune, but I'll pay what I have to to get something that does the job. Anything I should be looking for? Thanks, Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFS quotas won't turn on
Running Woody with a vanilla 2.4.20 kernel + SGI XFS patch. I've used quotas before, but not with XFS. So maybe I'm missing something... The man pages say that to activate quotas on a root XFS filesystem, you simply do quotaon -v /. But if I do that, I get quotaon: quotactl() on /dev/hda1: function not implemented. I have XFS quotas configured in the kernel, and they are reported in dmesg. The help for that option says that generic CONFIG_QUOTA support is not required, but I've tried that too. The mount man page claims that quota is a valid xfs mount option, but remounts fail with a bad option error. I also tried rebuilding the quota package from the source deb. Same deal. I must be missing something obvious... --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Solved: XFS quotas won't turn on
OK, got it - the newer XFS patches don't use that syntax anymore. You now need to pass rootflags=quota at the boot prompt. At least it wasn't all that obvious - the new syntax doesn't seem to mentioned anywhere besides the XFS mailing lists. --Todd Todd Pytel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running Woody with a vanilla 2.4.20 kernel + SGI XFS patch. I've used quotas before, but not with XFS. So maybe I'm missing something... The man pages say that to activate quotas on a root XFS filesystem, you simply do quotaon -v /. But if I do that, I get quotaon: quotactl() on /dev/hda1: function not implemented. I have XFS quotas configured in the kernel, and they are reported in dmesg. The help for that option says that generic CONFIG_QUOTA support is not required, but I've tried that too. The mount man page claims that quota is a valid xfs mount option, but remounts fail with a bad option error. I also tried rebuilding the quota package from the source deb. Same deal. I must be missing something obvious... --Todd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.
I noticed this also with Sarge. Looks like Sawfish is being moved to the GNOME 2 version, which in my experience has always sucked tremendously. Somehow, they took a nice, simple window manager that had just the right options, reduced the number of options, removed the config tool, and yet still left it working worse than before. Solution: Use Metacity. --Todd Richard Heycock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use keybindings quite a lot in sawfish but I noticed recently (I think after the last upgrade but I'm not sure) that some of them don't work very well. For example I have an xterm mapped to ctrl-shift-e and when I press those keys a number things might happen: * it works, but not very often; * it does nothing, but not very often; * it thinks for about 3 seconds and then pops up two xterms. If an xterm has focus then an 'e' is printed after about a second. This is the most common scenario. I've tried binding the xterm to a differnt set of keys (ctrl-alt-e) and the other keybindings work (ctrl-alt-r - roll shade window). I am running unstable. Does anyone have insight into this? rgh -- It is possible to make things of great complexity out of things that are very simple. There is no conservation of simplicity -- Stephen Wolfram Richard Heycock [EMAIL PROTECTED] key fingerprint : 909D CBFA C669 AC2F A937 AFA4 661B 9D21 EAAB 4291 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
