Re: Novell Linux Resource Kit Offer

[adcarlson]

I jumped right on the bandwagon the first email I heard of this thing (about a
month ago).  I emailed a friend at the same time, and with the lag of about a
day or so, the site blocked up with people trying to sign up for it.

Nevertheless mine came in late last week...3 nice DVDs...Now I can switch from
Libranet (Debian based) back to SuSE.  Ooops...I'm saying this on a Debian
list.  Actually I'm game to dual (or should I say triple) boot both.  I started
my Linux use on SuSE, and have fond memories of the easy to use installs.  Its
the continual update costs (new versions 3 or 4 times a year at $40US+ per) that
prompted me to switch to Linux distros I could download freely off the
Internet.  

On 09-Jul-2004 Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 09:59, GodMode wrote:
>> hey,
>> just recieved an email from a buddy of mine, thought people out there would
>> like to check it out. its not spam.
>> just a special offer from novell
>> linux resource kit
>> 
>> http://www.novell.com/community/linux/order.php
> 
> It is closed. Done. No longer offered.
> 
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Gnome Crash

[adcarlson]

It seems that I have caused Gnome to crash permanently.  I had inadvertently
dragged a copy of an item from the menu, and put it into the TRASH and then
emptied it.

At that point Gnome crashed.  Any reattepts to login to a Gnome (2.4) setup
bringing up a Gnome-panel crash.  I've had to resort to KDE.

I've tried blowing away all that I think is Gnome related (including stuff from
/tmp as well!), and then reinstalling clean files from what /etc/skel would
install for a new user.  To no avail!  Same crash situation.

And any other users I've got (and new users) do now have such a problem.

Any help would be appreciated...especically in tracking down where the key
items for gnome-panel are in a typical user's directory.

Thanks,
Arlen


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Re: Semi-Old Video Card Recommendation

[adcarlson]

For awhile ATI was not supporting Linux.  They've improved significantly as of
late.

I highly recommend Nvidia stuff.  Excellent Linux support.  Matrox is good for
2D stuff.

On 20-Jan-2004 Pigeon wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 04:41:59AM +0800, Ryan Mackay wrote:
>> If you dont choose this chipset i would suggest sticking with nVidia
>> none the less, they do support Linux (or Xwindows should i say) alot
>> more/better than other companies.
> 
> Hmm, I'm constantly advising people NOT to buy nVidia stuff because they
> are LESS Free-software friendly than other companies. They may provide Linux
> drivers but they are binary-only. No source code or hardware specs are
> available, so you're really in the same boat as you are with Windoze.
> 
> For example,  lists plenty of
> ATI support:
> 
>> ATI
>> 
>> Supported Chipsets
>> 
>> * Mach64 (Rage Pro)
>> * Rage 128 (Standard, Pro, Mobility)
>> * Radeons up to R9200 are supported
>> 
>> Important Notes
>> 
>> * The Radeon naming scheme explained.
>> * For Radeon PCI support see the FAQ
>> * Rage Fury Maxx is NOT supported by the DRI.
>> * The Mach64 (Rage Pro) is undergoing heavy development. To see if your
>>   card is supported check Leif's status page.
>> * The Radeon seems to have problems with certain early VIA chipsets.
>>   Your best bet is to try and see if it works.
>> 
>> Example Graphics Cards
>> 
>> * Rage Fury
>> * Rage Magnum
>> * Xpert 2000
>> * Xpert 128
>> * Xpert 99
>> * All-in-Wonder 128
>  
> but when it comes to NVidia, all we get is:
> 
>> NVidia
>> 
>> NVidia provides their own closed source, binary drivers. Hardware specs
>> are not available to the DRI developers and NVidia cards are therefore 
>> not supported by the DRI.
> 
> ATI may only release their hardware specs to developers under NDA but that's
> a lot better than not releasing them at all. At least we get ATI source code.
> 
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Re: ieee1394 ethernet

[adcarlson]

To add my bit to the matter:

When setting up a friend's Win XP machine, I stumbled across the fact that
IEEE1394 can actually be used in networking.  So obviously this applies to all
OSes as well.

Never tried it yet though.

On 20-Jan-2004 Paul Johnson wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 12:38:17AM -0500, Bruce wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 12:54:47AM -0500, Bruce wrote:
>> > > I am looking to set up an ethernet connection using ieee1394
>> > > (Firewire/ILink) between two Debian sid machines, and haven't had much
>> > > luck.
>> 
>> > Right.  Firewire is not ethernet.
>> 
>> I apologize if I am not using the correct terminology. However, to quote
>> the "IEEE 1394 for Linux" page at
>> http://www.linux1394.org/eth1394.html:
>> 
>> "When loaded, along with a host controller, you can configure the ethX
>> (e.g., eth0, eth1, eth2) interfaces the same as you would for a normal
>> ethernet interface. One ethernet interface is configured for each
>> IEEE-1394 host configured."
>> 
>> Based on the above it appeared to me reasonable to assume that, once I
>> loaded the correct modules (eth1394), I could configure and use the
>> firewire device, using ethX, in much the same way as a real ethernet
>> device. Which, it turns out, I could.
> 
> Wow.  I'll be damned.  Learn something new everyday.
> 
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Test

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I haven't been receiving msgs from the Debian list since Saturday the 22nd. 
Was the lists shut down to problems with the apt-get sources?

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RE: No to wine! (was:"Red Hat recommends...")

[adcarlson]

I was an avid OS/2 user at one time, until technology moved on and the logical
switch for most OS/2 users was Linux.

Your thoughts on using Win3.1 and OS/2 are interesting...except that Win3.1 was
known to run better under OS/2.  The reason was problem because IBM did a
work-around for the bugs that existed (or corrected them in the blue box
version).  Thus I rarely if ever booted into DOS+Win3.1  The stable solution was
almost inevitably run Win3.1 under OS/2.  And the most stable was the old blue
box version of course, instead of having to install Win3.1 separately and have
OS/2 install and look for it.

On 08-Nov-2003 Christian Schnobrich wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 00:52, David Millet wrote:
> 
>> >   
>> Or not until wine begins running these and every windoze app that
>> everyone uses flawlessly, which hopefully happens soon.
> 
> No! 
> please.
> 
> Anyone remembers OS/2? I think that one important reason why it failed 
> (among admittedly many others) is that many developers didn't see any
> need to write software for it. I've heard/read many times that an OS/2
> version wasn't necessary as people can run the windows software almost
> just as well.
> In the end, I hardly ever booted into OS/2, because there I'd not only
> have to deal with the issues of Win31 software, but with the problems of
> running them under an alien system as well.
> 
> In the same way, I wouldn't use Linux if I had to run 90% of the
> applications through wine. Not even if it were 'only' 20%... but as
> things are, Linux natively offers almost all I need, and that's why I
> consider it to be a good alternative.
> 
> Wine is a necessary crutch, suitable to run the one or two apps that are
> not (yet?) available for Linux. But in my eyes it will be no solution to
> improve the crutch. On the contrary, having a really good wine might
> even be dangerous.
> At any rate, I think it's a strange philosphy to hope that a workaround
> should become the actual solution.
> 
> cu,
> Schnobs
> 
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Apt problem

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After upgrading my Libranet (Sarge-based) system, I now end up with the
following messages after doing anything apt-get based (including Synaptic):

W: No priority (or zero) specified for pin
W: No priority (or zero) specified for pin

However the apt-get commands and apps work.  How do I solve the
problem/warnings?

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RE: manglement-compatible comparison of SuSE vs. Debian

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Why switch?  SuSE is a great product, and easy to support.  I would probably
recommend a business go with a commercial distro like SuSE as opposed to a
devout hobbyist/community based distro like Debian.

On 26-Feb-2003 Robert Waldner wrote:
> 
> One of our customers runs his firewall on SuSE. This is, obvious to any 
>  Debian user, not what one wants to support.
> 
> However, in order to be able to convince him that changing to Debian
>  would be a Good(tm) idea, I need a management-compatible comparison, 
>  preferrably from a third party. If it features a lot of buzzwords like
>  "TCO", "maintenance costs" etc, even better ;)
> 
> So, if some kind soul round here has a fitting URL at hand, please toss
>  it my way. google was not very helpful in that regard, as what I found
>  is either way too far in the technical details, or aimed at the 
>  switching-from-windos desktop-focused audience.
> 
> cheers+TIA,
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Re: SIIG SCSI Card

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Interesting thing is that the module is there...so my problem must be a
parameter that needs to be passed to it...

On 23-Jun-2002 Greg C. Madden wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-06-22 at 19:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I just recenctly purchased a SIIG Fast SCSI Pro (PCI) card.  It claims it
>> has
>> Linux support, in the manual and on SIIG's website.  Apparently either
>> Advansys
>> or Initio chipsets are used in these cards.  Trying to install the kernel
>> module for either of these SCSI chipsets has been unsuccessful.
>> 
>> Is there any particular paramter I should be entering along with the
>> installation of the module?  So far any parameters seem to result in an
>> error.
>> 
>> Is it possible that the plain vanilla kernel (2.4.17-K6II) may not actually
>> be
>> set up with either of these relevant modules linked into the kernel,
>> therefore
>> requiring me to do a kernel configure & compile?
> 
> Browse '/lib/modules/2.4.17-K6II/kernel/drivers/scsi' & have a look at
> what modules are available. The SIIG cards have various (meaningless)
> numbers on them, and the web site is't mush help, that said the SIIG
> AP-40 (UW) uses the advansys module.
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SIIG SCSI Card

[adcarlson]

I just recenctly purchased a SIIG Fast SCSI Pro (PCI) card.  It claims it has
Linux support, in the manual and on SIIG's website.  Apparently either Advansys
or Initio chipsets are used in these cards.  Trying to install the kernel
module for either of these SCSI chipsets has been unsuccessful.

Is there any particular paramter I should be entering along with the
installation of the module?  So far any parameters seem to result in an error.

Is it possible that the plain vanilla kernel (2.4.17-K6II) may not actually be
set up with either of these relevant modules linked into the kernel, therefore
requiring me to do a kernel configure & compile?

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

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Re: Converting mbox -> maildir

[adcarlson]

Sounds like you might be wanting to do a change of mail clients
(apps)...Although I haven't tried it, Sylpheed is a mail app that is known to
be able to convert between the two formats.

On 29-Apr-2002 Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Paul 'Baloo' Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020428 02:57]:
>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Vineet Kumar wrote:
>> 
>> > I'd use maildir -- but then again, I always use maildir. =) I think the
>> > reason you give below is a pretty good one. Any good reason to use mbox?
>> > Not afaics, unless you're running out of inodes.
>> 
>> So how do you convert?  Exim mta, procmail are in use, as is IMAP and
>> POP3 service.  What are the things to look out for?
> 
> I'm not sure what you're asking; you're using mbox now and would like to
> switch to maildir? I think the biggest obstacle will probably be your
> POP3/IMAP servers - depending on which servers you're running, they may
> not speak maildir at all. Exim and procmail have no such qualms. (Or did
> you mean you use POP3 and IMAP clients to fetch mail? In that case, it's
> not significant; exim and/or procmail will be doing the delivering
> anyway.)
> 
> I can help you better if you'll give some more info about your current
> mail "flow".
> 
> good times,
> Vineet
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Re: Linksys Wireless WDT11 w/ Woody

[adcarlson]

Although I don't own these products I had them under serious consideration to
buy and may still buy them.  Any research that I've done on their use on Linux
indicates that their support is fair to excellent, and probably even so under a
2.2 kernel.

I would recommend doing a bit of research on Linux and wireless first.  A few
quick links will take you to sites based on the subject.  And if memory serves
me correct, Linksys may even have Linux drivers on their site.

BTW, I have tried that Linksys Router you mention, and it does work very well
(browser-based config).

On 06-Apr-2002 Mike Madden wrote:
> I already have a Linksys BEFW11S4 Wireless 4-Port 
> Cable/DSL Router and a Linksys WDT11.  What would
> you recommend as a good wireless NIC?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
>> 
>> On 06-Apr-2002 Mike Madden wrote:
>> > Does anyone know if the Linksys WDT11 is supported
>> > under Woody?  I am running the latest snapshot from
>> > ftp.fsn.hu with kernel 2.2.20.  If it is supported
>> > or anyone has gotten it to work, please let me know.
>> > Also, if it requires a kernel update to the 2.4.x
>> > series, please let me know.
>> >
>> 
>> if it works at all it definately requires a 2.4 kernel.
>> 
>> The linksys are some of the worst of the prism2 based cards, so if you have
>> not
>> spent the money try to spend it elsewhere.
> 
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Re: Browsers won't connect to modem

[adcarlson]

Sounds to me like you may have a problem with a gateway IP # being set up...at
least that's one possibility.  As an example, I have this problem on my
notebook; when my notebook is connected to the small network I have set up, I
use my desktop machine as a gateway (its IP).  But if I use the notebook
elsewhere (not network connected) and dial-up using its modem, then I have to
make sure that it has the gateway IP disabled.  If not, I get the same problem
that you are presently getting.

You mentioned you just reinstalled...so perhaps such a gateway address got
inadvertently entered in the setup process...

On 14-Feb-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just reinstalled Debian 2.2.r3 from disk, and now I can't get any internet 
> programs to connect to the modem (which was working fine before). Mozilla 
> gives " can't be found" error message and Lynx gives "unable to 
> connect to remote host" error message. Modem never dials.
> 
> - Pppconfig autodetects the modem on /dev/ttyS2, and the pppconfig file has 
> been set to accept demand dialing; 
> - setserial has the modem set to irq 5 (runs on boot); 
> - the modem itself is jumpered to irq 5; 
> - wvdialconf autodetects the modem on /dev/ttyS2; 
> - wvdial actually works and connects the modem to the net, although PAP 
> authentication seems to have trouble with the secrets file;
> - output on boot includes the following lines:
> 
> 307  ?S< 0:00 /usr/sbin/diald
>  Starting http cache proxy server:wwwoffled.
>  WWWOFFLE NOW IN AUTODIAL MODE.
> 
> I've followed the instructions on /usr/doc/diald/README.Debian by 
> configuring /etc/diald/connect and making a /dev/modem symlink to /dev/ttyS2.
> I've done everything I can think of that I did the first time around to get
> the 
> system set up for internet access, but it isn't working.
> 
> Changes to my system from the way I had it configured before:
> 
> - I now use "debian" as my hostname instead of "localhost"
> 
> - I now have parport and parport-autodetect compiled into kernel. Parport-
> autodetect finds my printer on irq 7, so there shouldn't be an irq conflict; 
> however
> 
> - syslog is giving the following messages:
>  insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o: invalid parameter parm_irq
>  insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o: insmod char-major-6 failed
>  modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0
>  modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3
> I don't know if this is related or is simply a separate problem. Right now I
> am 
> more concerned with the modem than the printer or sound card. Sound card's 
> presence didn't use to conflict with modem.
> 
> Any help anyone could give me would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Keith
> 
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Re: Evolution error

[adcarlson]

No, my hostname is not wombat...wombat is a program w/ a lib that's somehow
related to evolution (and maybe other apps too?).  Not sure what its purpose
is.
 
On 07-Jan-2002 Caleb Shay wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 07:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> It seems that I still have been unsuccessful in getting Evolution to work
>> after
>> several weeks since its initial release.  The error I keep getting is:
>> 
>> evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat:
>> (IDL:OAF/GeneralError:1.0)
> 
> This may be totally unrelated (I know less than nothing about oaf), but
> it looks like your hostname is wombat, is there a line in /etc/hosts of
> 
> yourip wombat
> 
> ?
> 
> Cheers,
> Caleb
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Re: MainActor or Broadcast 2000c with Potato?

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I got it working on my system using Alien...although probably after I upgraded
to Woody/Testing.

On 06-Jan-2002 Carl Fink wrote:
> Some may remember that I'm trying to create VCDs using Debian Potato (i386
> Linux).  None of the various methods posted here have worked for me, mostly
> because no one posted a way to convert existing DivX or MPEG4 video to MPEG1
> for VCD burning.  (There are lots of ways to capture video as MJPEG and
> encode it, but I'm working with existing files.)
> 
> I downloaded Broadcast 2000c and tried it, but it won't even load up.  I'm
> assuming it expects to be installed on a Red Hat system.  I downloaded the
> MainActor demo, but it exists only as an RPM, and using alien and installing
> it means that it segfaults shortly after loading a file.
> 
> Has anyone gotten either of these working on a Potato system?  I'd
> appreciate any help.
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> 
> 
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Evolution error

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It seems that I still have been unsuccessful in getting Evolution to work after
several weeks since its initial release.  The error I keep getting is:

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat:
(IDL:OAF/GeneralError:1.0)

I know I have bonobo and bonobo-conf installed.  Just wondering how I can
resolve this problem...

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Re: Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 ...

[adcarlson]

Hmm...I've noticed this error too in instances when its been time for e2fsck to
run during boot-up.  IIRC, it even predates my 2.4 series kernel use...i.e. I
think it occurred under 2.2.17.  LILO version related?--not sure of that either.

But what I can say is that I've never seemed to have the error create any
operational problems for me.

Yet, now that you mention it, I would be interested in the reason behind this
error.

On 29-Dec-2001 Pontus Edvardsson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using Woody, kernel 2.4.17 and lilo 22.1-6. My worries are the warnings
> (se below) I got after installing the new kernel. Prior that, I had some, and
> probably still have, partition table problems caused by PQ Magic on one of my
> disks. (I swap OS disks). My question is; does this have to do with the new
> kernel, lilo or my disks (all of them?!). To me it sounds more like a kernel
> problem, I configured it as always, only adding my graphics and soundcard -
> done that since the 2.4.0 was out... Anyone else has these problems?
> 
> Another thing, to fix my probably faulty disk, what is the best tool for
> that? I tried debians 'fdisk' and deleted all partitions, wrote the config
> and then created the new ones. It is accessible, but PQ-Magic cannot handle
> the partition (error 108) Not even whipe it clean! :(
> 
> Warning: Int 0x13 function 8unction 8 and function 0x48 return different
> head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80
> Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
> head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x81
> Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
> head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x82
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Pontus
> 
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Re: evolution and debian

[adcarlson]

As a suggestion, after having the experience of trying to get evolution up and
working last night (stil not quite successful), there are a number of
dependencies to the evolution DEB file (which is supposed to be for Potato?)
that appear only in Testing/Woody and Unstable/Sid.

In short, you'll probably at least need to make sure that you've updated to
Testing, and possibly even Unstable, to make Evolution work.
 
On 04-Dec-2001 Ross Burton wrote:
> On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 16:00, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
>>  invoking Evolution from the shell I get the same message plus the
>>  following:
>>  
>>  "evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat:
>>  (IDL:OAF/GeneralError:1.0)"
> 
> The normal cause is that bonobo-conf is not installed.
> 
> Is that is not the case, run "killev" to make sure no evolution
> components are running and then:
> 
> * in one terminal run evolution-mail
> * wait a few seconds and then in another terminal run evolution
> 
> Hopefully you'll see more debug information in the first terminal which
> should point towards the problem more accurately.
> 
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RealPlayer

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A strange phenomenon I just came across after upgrading to the 2.4 series
(version 12) from having used 2.2.17 for the longest time...my sound incluing
user of RealPlayer w/ Netscape had worked fine.  Now it doesn't...or more
correctly RealPlayer sound has stopped working.  All the other aspects of sound
use appear to be okay so far.

Any ideas/solutions would be much appreciated.

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RE: /bin/sh broken - now what?

[adcarlson]

Try to find out if your /bin/sh is symbolically linked to bash, ash, korn, or
whatever other shell.  /bin/sh should be just a symbolic link...if it isn't
linked, link it to something like bash.

I had a problem when I upgraded to the 2.4.12 kernel and the update asked
whether I wanted to go with the default POSIX standard ash instead of bash.  I
answered yes, and then my automated dialup scripts wouldn't work for the next
day until I relinked to bash (my scripts were bash specific I guess).

On 25-Nov-2001 A.R. (Tom) Peters wrote:
> I tried to install the G77 compiler, and got the latest stuff from
> testing.  It required a newer version of libc6 (2.2.4-5), which got
> installed first.  Then all subsequent packages failed.  I cannot open a
> shell anymore:
> 
> /bin/sh: relocation error: /bin/sh: undefined symbol: history_max_entries
> 
> Existing shells still work, but this situation paralyzes just about
> anything, including apt.  What can I do?
> 
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Re: working icq client for debian?

[adcarlson]

Its interesting that I've observed a lot complain about this...to my knowledge
there are often problems in sending through the ICQ server as opposed to
directly (when using LICQ for instance).  I've never heard of any problems
where a Windows client totally refuses messages from a Linux ICQ client
specifically.

In short, if sending through the server gives you problems try sending
directly...if sending directly gives you problems try sending through the
server.  

I don't believe it is a refusal on the part of the Windows client per sec.

On 20-Nov-2001 Andreas Leitner wrote:
> On Tue, 2001-11-20 at 16:09, David Roundy wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:42:50AM +0100, Andreas Leitner wrote:
>> > 
>> > Or is there some other icq client in debian that supports the new
>> > protocol?
>> 
>> I've been using licq without any problems.
> 
> I am pretty sure you cannot send messages to people who use the new ICQ
> client on windows (which is in my case a lot of people - and i never
> know whet)
> 
> Andreas
> 
> 
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Re: Wordperfect 8 now is broken for current Debian/Sid

[adcarlson]

I experienced the same problem, and to make WP8 work again I,

apt-get delete xlib6

and then...

dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xlib6_3.3.6-38_i386.deb

NOTE:  The defective version of the above file seems to be "version 39". 
Basically I had to roll back to the previous version.  Now WP8 is back in
operation.

On 14-Nov-2001 Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
>> Dear Kevin:
>> 
>> Thank you very much.  This fixed the problem.  It is because of folks 
>> like you that make Linux such a pleasure to use!
>> 
>> It seems a bug report for xlib6 is on order.  Has one been submitted.  
>> I would be happy to do so it need be.
> 
> Yes, see bug reports #118796 and #119643.  I'm glad I could help.
> 
> -Kevin McCarty
> 
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Kernel version in Debian FTP

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With kernel 2.4.15 on the verge or release (if it hasn't been already) and its
inherent attractiveness of having ext3 I'm finally tempted to install a 2.4.x
kernel (yes I sheepishly admit I'm still running a 2.2.x kernel).

However I've noticed that the Debian FTP site (Woody version) only seems to have
as high as a 2.2.12 kernel right now...why is this?  How soon will 2.4.15 be
reflected on there?  Although I haven't checked yet, would the Sid directories
have the 2.4.15 kernel images (and source of course) there?

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RE: kdelibs3

[adcarlson]

For me the attempted install of kdelibs3 was prevented by libkmid...so I did a
dpkg -r to that and had to also do the same to kmid...

Then my apt-get upgrade seemed ready to continue...I'll let you know tomorrow
if I come across any other problems...I have 10MB more updates to dload first...

On 11-Nov-2001 Glenn Becker wrote:
> Hi, all,
> 
> I've been having some problems getting an upgrade to some of the new KDE
> packages, to wit ... kdelibs3. Have been getting the following error message
> upon trying to force things with 'apt-get -f install':
> 
> Reading Package Lists...
> Building Dependency Tree...
> Correcting dependencies... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   kdelibs3 
> 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19  not upgraded.
> 1 packages not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B/6758kB of archives. After unpacking 5603kB will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 160795 files and
> directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace kdelibs3 4:2.1.2-3 (using
> .../kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement kdelibs3 ...
> Replacing files in old package kdebase-libs ...
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb
> (--unpack):
>  trying to overwrite
> `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/devices/3floppy_mount.png', which is also in
> package kdebase
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> Any ideas how to get beyond this? I'm stumped. Have been removing KDE apps
> one by one, but nothing seems to clear the way.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Glenn Becker
> 
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Re: Broadcast 2000

[adcarlson]

Thanks very much...this did the trick, although I also had to drag a copy of
the so file over to the Broadcast directory as well.

So far its a bit unstable on my system...but it might be OE (operator error)
right now, as I start getting used to playing with video editing.

On 04-Nov-2001 csj wrote:
> On Sunday 04 November 2001 05:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Just wondering if anyone has ever tried to run Broadcast 2000 under a
>> Debian system.  I've attempted to convert an RPM of this app via
>> Alien.
>>
>> However I hit a roadblock with reference to an item called libXv.so.1
>> Apparently this file is nonexistent.  The closest I can find
>> under my Debian install is libXv.a, whch does not appear to be a
>> substitute.  Any idea how I might be able to resolve this problem?
> 
> I believe the file can be created by the following commands (I remember 
> this hack from the xine mailing list):
> 
> su -
> cd /usr/X11R6/lib
> ld --whole-archive -shared -o libXv.so.1 libXv.a
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Broadcast 2000

[adcarlson]

Just wondering if anyone has ever tried to run Broadcast 2000 under a Debian
system.  I've attempted to convert an RPM of this app via Alien.

However I hit a roadblock with reference to an item called libXv.so.1
Apparently this file is nonexistent.  The closest I can find under my
Debian install is libXv.a, whch does not appear to be a substitute.  Any idea
how I might be able to resolve this problem?

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Re: Progeny->Woody Upgrade Alternatives?

[adcarlson]

Looking at the recommendations for the upgrade on the Progeny site, I wonder if
the noted specific install of modutils/modconf is what is necessary to correct
this PCMCIA problem (i.e. at which point you would have to run modconf and
specifically make sure the module for PCMCIA is getting loaded in).

I've got Progeny on my notebook right now, and hoping to do the update to Woody
in the next week or so...but holding off right now until I know that I won't
have any seriously insurmountable problems like this one...

On 22-Oct-2001 Doc - KD4E wrote:
>> Progeny to Woody howto
>> http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=450
> 
> Been using that one.  It is incomplete since it fails to mention the
> trashing
> of pcmcia, among other things.
> 
>> Progeny to unstable
>> http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=414
>> scott
> 
> Now this is interesting.  Why is it simpler than the Progeny->Woody
> upgrade?
> 
> ~~~
> Tips 'n' Tricks: Progeny->Sid sidegrade
> Posted by DanielS on Tuesday, October 02 @ 11:19:55 BST (773 reads)
> 
>  Having now done 2 Progeny->sid sidegrades, it's quite easy. All you need is
> the latest Debian unstable sources in your sources.list and nothing else
> (well,
> non-US, but that's it). Now, type:
> 
># apt-get update
># dpkg --purge --force-deps libfreetype6
># apt-get -f dist-upgrade
> You may need to do this a couple of times, but just doing it once worked for
> me,
> though I've only tried this on two machines. It's quite a good way to
> install Debian,
> if you hate the installer.
> ~~~
> 
> How much "trouble" might I run into by choosing Unstable rather than
> Testing?
> 
> Can the same commands be used to update from Testing? (If I did so am I
> likely
> to end up in the same place ... with no pcmcia functionality?)
> 
> Meanwhile I have given up rescuing PCMCIA from the Progeny->Woody update.
> Am reinstalling Progeny for the 4th time in a matter of days so may once
> again
> access my pcmcia nic and ADSL.  Sigh.
> 
> With Progeny up I can try whatever command set seems most suitable to the
> task of a kernel-woody-pcmcia upgrade that all plays nice together!
> 
> Thanks!  Doc
> 
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Re: kylix open edition and Debian 2.2

[adcarlson]

Why don't you "upgrade" from Potato to Woody (aka presently Testing).  Then
that will resolve your library problem without the workaround.  Interestingly
I've successfully installed Kylix under Progeny, on my notebook, and Progeny is
supposed to be a cross between Potato and Woody in certain respects.

On 08-Oct-2001 Felix Natter wrote:
> Felix Natter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > Hi,
>> > 
>> > I installed it on Potato last week. I had to comment out the test for a
>> > good libc, and it segfaults on exit.  But it does work. Come on Woody!
> 
> on my debian 2.2r0 it freezes on startup, when the splash-screen is shown :-(
> 
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Re: testing

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On 12-Sep-2001 Martin F Krafft wrote:
> also sprach [EMAIL PROTECTED] (on Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:12:32PM -0500):
>> how stable is testing? would it be too risky to upgrade from stable
>> to testing?

> furthermore, the apache transition does not work quite well, you'll
> have to edit some config files. other than that, woody has XFree86 4.x
> with it, which doesn't work on my laptop (NM256 card) for instance.

Since upgrading to Testing in the last month or so, I came to the realization
that my Apache setup no longer works properly...so I searched the Debian list
and came across this message...What sort of things have to be edited to make
the Apache transition work?

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Re: Debian and Kylix open edition

[adcarlson]

I concur with the rest of the comments...

The LC thing being set to C has to be changed.

As well, I found I could not install on my Potato-based desktop system (which
I've just upgraded to Woody...and therefore have to try a Kylix install on
again).  But it installed fine on my Progeny (Woody)-based notebook.

On 31-Aug-2001 Dmitriy wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 12:10:43AM -0700, Dmitriy wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 01:26:54AM -0500, Gary Dolan wrote:
>> > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 06:42:21PM -0700, Dmitriy wrote:
>> > > Anyone else has any advice? (I use sid)
>> > > 
>> > > I installed it w/o any problems (as user).
>> > > When I ran it, it complained about LC_ALL being set to C (is it some
>> > > sort of unnaceptable practice that I don't know about?).
>> > > 
>> > > I set LC_ALL to russian, and it said "Generating font matrix"
>> > > It takes about 60% of my CPU time, and I am still waiting.
>> > > 
>> > > Anyone willing to share their expiriences?
>> > 
>> > I did much the same, except that when the popup 
>> > "Generating font matrix" appeared, I did something
>> > (closed the box ??), I just don't remember exactly
>> > what, and then kylix came up fine. Whatever I did
>> > was suggested in a previous post that I found on
>> > google. Anyway, it has run fine since that
>> > initial problem.
>> 
>> Thanks a lot, closing the box helped me.
>> 
>> Now, how come I can't think of such simple solutions :-)
>> 
> Well, It appears I was a bit  premature in my happiness :-)
> 
> The fonts in the menus are so small, that I break my eyes in 640x480
> on a 19" :-(  No problems in the code-editor.
> 
> Did anyone had the same problem?
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -- 
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>> > Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, kernel 2.4.9
>> > FreeBSD 4.3
>> > 
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RE: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

[adcarlson]

I'd say go with Woody (compared to Slack), provided you can do a boot off of
CD...I wasn't aware of the boot-disk issue.  I started with Potato about 8
months ago, and just apt-get updated to Woody in the last few weeks.

Tried Slack way back (a number of years ago) and found it more difficult for a
newbie (I was that at the time).  For a true newbie, I'd say go SuSE, or
Mandrake.  After cutting your teeth on a version, then slide into Debian (or
something Debian based...like Progeny).  In short, I've never been impressed
with Slackware.

On 15-Aug-2001 Gilles Pelletier wrote:
> We're a small group mulling over the respective merits of Debian and
> Slackware for a newbie. Of course, since apt-get takes care of installing
> dependencies and upgrading the whole installed software, we were leaning
> towards Debian. The newbie, even though his concerns for security are
> limited, wouldn't have to care too much about it.
> 
> Only a "tiny" problem remains. Potato is not up to date and it's apparently
> difficult to upgrade software unless you get patches at specialised places
> ( http://kde.tdyc.com for the KDE 2.x serie, for instance. ) You then must
> hope the patch is well done.
> 
> We though about installing Woody, but, as you people know, the boot
> disquettes don't boot yet. Potato must first be installed and an upgrade
> made to Woody. Newbies might not appreciate...
> As for Woody, once again, it's going to be out... when it's ready, which
> might as well mean in June 2002, one year after Slack was out.
> 
> How the hell is Volkerding and his small pack managing to put out Slack 8
> with XFree86 4.1.0, kernel 2.4.5, KDE 2.1.2, GNOME 1.4, glibc 2.2.3,
> Mozilla, Galeon, Nautilus, ProFTPD, OpenSSH, OpenSSL, mod_ssl, mod_php...
> and all the usual utilities, hardly 3 months after Mandrake rushed out
> their broken down distro? Has anybody heard that Slackware isn't safe : ) ?
> 
> Is apt-get really worth this huge delay? We do plan to teach the newbie
> some fundamentals.
> 
> BTW, in case you wouldn't know, even newbies like to be cutting edge...
> even more so than oldies I'd say : )
> 
> GP
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RE: A problem

[adcarlson]

 I'm in the process of trying to apt-get dist-upgrade by Debian system from
 Potato to Woody-Testing, and seem to have stumbled across the "roadblock"
shown below that has limited my progress...
 
 If anyone has any suggestions on how this matter might be resolved it
would be much appreciated.  Early on I thought it was a Perl problem, but that
turned out (to my knowledge) to be a Perl problem that developed in the
apt-get upgrade process where Perl seemed to get partially deleted. 
 
 97% [Scanning packages]Template parse error near "" at
 /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/Template.pm line 102,  chunk 3.
 (in cleanup) Can't call method "DESTROY" on an undefined value at
 /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/Question.pm line 251,  line 3 during
 global destruction.
 E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt returned an error code (29)
 E: Failure running script /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt
 
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